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X-Men: The Promise · Movie Meltdown

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  Speaker 5: What's up and welcome to Movie Meltdown.
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  Speaker 6: I'm Brian.
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  Speaker 2: This is David.
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  Speaker 1: Very nicely giving us this we have our own private
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  Speaker 1: gallery case studio here it's uh it's very nice in
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  Speaker 1: here like i said my first time here i'm liking
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  Speaker 1: what i'm seeing i need to come here and walk
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  Speaker 1: around more.
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  Speaker 7: There yeah they do a lot of cool stuff they've
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  Speaker 7: got uh bands playing several nights a week now they
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  Speaker 7: do life drawing which i was doing for a while and.
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  Speaker 1: I've gotten sidetracked.
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  Speaker 7: Doing this on the same day so i want to
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  Speaker 7: get back into that because they're really cool class going
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  Speaker 7: on so yeah it's A lot of different activities going on.
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  Speaker 1: Will's done a good job with it here. It's a
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  Speaker 1: great neighborhood still. I miss it. I keep flip-flopping, living
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  Speaker 1: on both sides of the river here. I always find
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  Speaker 1: in my happiness levels a notch or two down when
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  Speaker 1: I'm on the Indiana side. I prefer to be over
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  Speaker 1: here in the Highlands area. That's the evil side. That's
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  Speaker 1: what everybody in this town says. Everyone on the Indiana
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  Speaker 1: side thinks there's like, you know, you walk down the
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  Speaker 1: street here, you're going to get shot. Act like it's Chicago. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: It's not Chicago. I mean, I, yeah. More likely to
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  Speaker 1: run over by a horse than shot. Sadly, I have also, like,
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  Speaker 1: moved to that side at one point in my life.
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  Speaker 7: And, like, yeah, the guy I was getting the place from,
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  Speaker 7: that's why he and his family lived there, was the.
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  Speaker 1: He was referencing all the shootings going on.
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  Speaker 7: I'm like, well, great, I guess there's less over here.
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  Speaker 1: But still, I was just like, yeah.
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  Speaker 7: It's weird we have such a big divide in the
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  Speaker 7: middle of what is essentially the same area.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 1: We threw a river down the middle of it. I
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  Speaker 1: think you find that in every city, though. There's that
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  Speaker 1: east side, west side, north side, south side. You know,
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  Speaker 1: there's always a side. One side's good, one side's bad.
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  Speaker 7: It's worse when you're bordering another state because then you
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  Speaker 7: have another reason to be like.
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  Speaker 1: Screw you guys.
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  Speaker 7: So, whatever state you're in, Gallery K, they're awesome.
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  Speaker 1: So come check them out. So, yeah, we've made the
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  Speaker 1: threat to come back and do this episode.
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  Speaker 7: But before we get, you know, knee deep in our
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  Speaker 7: comic book geekery, I thought this time we would Ease.
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  Speaker 1: Our way in. Have you seen anything other than our
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  Speaker 1: movie of the week? In theaters? No. How about in
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  Speaker 1: the home theater? I do watch the Flash TV series.
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  Speaker 1: That season just came to an end.
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  Speaker 8: I watched that.
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  Speaker 1: It was fun. They hinted at a lot of things
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  Speaker 1: that I'm very excited about. They didn't commit. To Kid
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  Speaker 1: Flash or Jesse Quick. We kind of know it's going
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  Speaker 1: to happen.
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  Speaker 7: They already made it happen, but it's like even the
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  Speaker 7: people involved don't know it.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody except the audience is the only one that knows
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  Speaker 1: it's coming. And it was done so, I don't want
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  Speaker 1: to say subtle, subtle, but I think Kid Flash and
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  Speaker 1: Jesse Quick are not mainstream characters by any means. I
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  Speaker 1: think if you've read a comic, you definitely know who
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  Speaker 1: Kid Flash is. But I think if you were to
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  Speaker 1: just grab someone on the street and be like, You know,
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  Speaker 1: your average Joe. I think they will have heard of Flash,
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  Speaker 1: but I don't think they will have heard of Kid Flash.
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  Speaker 1: I think every other... That's one of the things about
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  Speaker 1: Flash is, like, he exists in the bigger DC universe, but, like...
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  Speaker 1: He's their Spider-Man. He's so separate. In my mentality, he's
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  Speaker 1: always been their Spider-Man. He's always... Not literally, but in the...
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  Speaker 1: He's lighter. He's a bit more fun.
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  Speaker 2: His.
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  Speaker 1: whatever drama is going on with him, it's not usually
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  Speaker 1: like a global catastrophe. Like, Batman and Superman tend to
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  Speaker 1: deal with things that might wreck the world. You know,
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  Speaker 1: Flash is like, oh, man, you know, Star City. You know, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's like, you know, it's much lighter. And he's more
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  Speaker 1: fun because he's one of those people that, he doesn't
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  Speaker 1: have a secret identity.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So, like, within the comic, they celebrate him. They know
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  Speaker 1: he's Flash. And, you know, and it's just much lighter. But,
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  Speaker 1: I will say, man, comics right now, in general... To
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  Speaker 1: broaden this, they're fucking being ballsy right now. Between Captain
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  Speaker 1: America going Hydra, between DC blaming the new 52 essentially
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  Speaker 1: on the Watchmen in Manhattan. And the Flash doing hinting,
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  Speaker 1: they can't do it. But the fact that that finale ended,
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  Speaker 1: like they're going to do Flashpoint, which they can't. You
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  Speaker 1: don't have the justice. You can't have that global thing
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  Speaker 1: that happens. So the fact that they hint at Flashpoint,
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure it'll be a different kind of Flashpoint.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But that they were ballsy enough to go with that
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  Speaker 1: at the end of season two. I'm like, oh my gosh,
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  Speaker 1: you guys, who knows? You could have waited a year
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  Speaker 1: or two. And maybe cameoed some other people. That's the
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  Speaker 1: thing about this series. That's the thing about this Flash series.
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  Speaker 1: They've gotten so much in. You've got to say CW.
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  Speaker 1: You've just got to pull it all in now. That
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  Speaker 1: first season, I was just like, I got to the
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  Speaker 1: end and I was like, wait, has this only been
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  Speaker 1: on one season? Because they crammed so much stuff in
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  Speaker 1: that first season of dealing with all the side stories
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  Speaker 1: plus the big reverse flash and bringing in a secret identity.
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  Speaker 1: And then, well, we didn't even get to Zoom. So
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  Speaker 1: then like season two, it's like, okay, now we've got
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  Speaker 1: this whole new other flash, other second character. Well, in
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  Speaker 1: the finale, hinted at Black Flash. Because when that flash
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  Speaker 1: was burning up in that image, like that's how Black
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  Speaker 1: Flash looks. And I was like, so we... essentially started
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  Speaker 1: flashpoint showed you black flash showed you that kid flash
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  Speaker 1: and jesse quick are coming i mean they're just so
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  Speaker 1: ballsy i love it don't get me wrong i'm excited
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  Speaker 1: that like they're eager to put that much actual continuity
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  Speaker 1: into things but at the same time i'm afraid they're
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  Speaker 1: gonna do that batman forever thing it's like don't get
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  Speaker 1: here was kind of part of my theory on flashpoint
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  Speaker 1: though is that if because you can't have all the
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  Speaker 1: characters of the justice league playing their parts The fact
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  Speaker 1: that now you do have Supergirl. She could double for
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  Speaker 1: Superman's part.
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  Speaker 7: Totally suck her in to CW now, or ABC dumped her, whichever.
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  Speaker 1: I'm glad for CW. I like that they're kind of like,
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  Speaker 1: fuck you, movie universe. You don't want to incorporate us?
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  Speaker 8: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: We're going to hold the monopoly on the TV land.
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  Speaker 1: We're going to scoop up.
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  Speaker 7: In general, even outside of the superhero world, one of
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  Speaker 7: my favorite, again, I barely watch any regular shows anymore.
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  Speaker 1: Every week, fucking iZombie. Like, I love iZombie.
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  Speaker 7: And I'm like, they took a genre that I was
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  Speaker 7: kind of bored with. Granted, they took it from an
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  Speaker 7: interesting comic anyway, but like, he retooled all that shit.
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  Speaker 1: And like, It works so much better than I would
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  Speaker 1: have ever expected. And again, most networks would have not
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  Speaker 1: done that. CW was like, all right, let's go. So
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  Speaker 1: like that back-to-back flash in iZombie is like one of
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  Speaker 1: the best nights of television you're going to find in
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  Speaker 1: my mind. CW stands for comic world or something now.
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  Speaker 1: I swear, like, you know, they're finding all this success
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  Speaker 1: with things that iZombie could easily be a comic. easily
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  Speaker 1: well it obviously did oh was it a comic yeah
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  Speaker 1: it was it.
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  Speaker 7: Was a comic yeah oh well there you go they
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  Speaker 7: still work it in because the like the intro is
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  Speaker 7: done in comic style when they come back from commercial
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  Speaker 7: they do like the little title like will pop up
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  Speaker 7: like it's coming back in the way manner kind of
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  Speaker 7: like yeah it's it's they definitely like own up to
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  Speaker 7: the like yeah we're total comic bookie we know it
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  Speaker 7: and again it's it it deals with very dark heavy
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  Speaker 7: subject matter but it's got such a great fun tone
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  Speaker 7: and that's all due to.
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  Speaker 5: Um Tells his name.
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  Speaker 2: Hold on.
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  Speaker 1: Has he done anything else? Yeah, he's Veronica Mars. That's
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  Speaker 1: why it's so good.
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  Speaker 7: He knows how to balance that between stories that could
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  Speaker 7: get into some dark territory and still loads it up
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  Speaker 7: with a lot of pop culture humor to the point
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  Speaker 7: like if you're watching it, it does feel in the
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  Speaker 7: moment and in the world that you live in, so
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  Speaker 7: it's not quite as cheesy and tv show is it
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  Speaker 7: it's not melodrama like it does at least have real
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  Speaker 7: moments that happen in the real world which is kind
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  Speaker 7: of the same thing they do with flash that like
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  Speaker 7: it's rob thomas there we go yeah it's yeah it's
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  Speaker 7: all rob thomas that does that with iZombie it's why
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  Speaker 7: it's it's so well put together yeah he's he's an
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  Speaker 7: amazing showrunner for two different shows now so.
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  Speaker 1: I'm at the point where i i lightly predict this
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  Speaker 1: i'm not saying i'm i'm I think at this point
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  Speaker 1: we could say there's probably a 30% chance with what
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  Speaker 1: CW is doing. I'm waiting. for the first cw movie
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  Speaker 1: like i'm waiting like the build up your arrow supergirl
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  Speaker 1: flash uh whatever the other one is heroes of the
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  Speaker 1: future whatever i watched most of that i gave that
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  Speaker 1: a shot it It's okay. It's not terrible. That one's
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  Speaker 1: the one to me feels like a cash-in. It's like,
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  Speaker 1: you took the villains from Flash and you gave them
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  Speaker 1: their own show. Like, come on. Basically, it's we want
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  Speaker 1: the Avengers and we want Doctor Who. And we want
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  Speaker 1: Suicide Squad. And we want a little bit of Suicide Squad. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: because they do work a couple of villains in for
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  Speaker 1: no good reason. Except that guy is kind of cool.
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  Speaker 1: And I think that's why I pardon it. Because they
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  Speaker 1: grabbed the two dudes from Prison Break and they play
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  Speaker 1: these two great villains and you're like, I kind of
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  Speaker 1: want more of those guys, but I don't want to
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  Speaker 1: see Flash fight them every episode. So there's a part
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  Speaker 1: of me that was like, I understand why you're doing it,
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  Speaker 1: and I understand why people watch it. They're very charismatic
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  Speaker 1: as those parts, and oh boy. And they set them up, too,
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  Speaker 1: because all through Flash, it was like every time he'd
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  Speaker 1: have a chance to be a total villain, he'd back off,
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  Speaker 1: especially whatever the Mr. Freeze dude is. It is a
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  Speaker 1: really unique thing, again, about Flash's world, though, is that
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  Speaker 1: his rogues gallery, they, of course, there are times when
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  Speaker 1: they go back and forth on this, but generally speaking,
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  Speaker 1: Flash's villains don't want to kill him.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: They sort of share his mentality. They're like, we're thieves.
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  Speaker 1: You know, we want money. We want power. But we're
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  Speaker 1: not murderers. Those two are pretty, yeah, pretty good about that. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: they're pretty, well, I mean, even in a comic, though. Like,
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  Speaker 1: pretty much, like, they're all like, you know, we're going
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  Speaker 1: to take Flash down. We're going to embarrass him. We're
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  Speaker 1: going to do this and this. But they never necessarily go,
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  Speaker 1: we want to kill him. Like, in their plans, I'm
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  Speaker 1: sure if they got together, they probably could kill him,
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  Speaker 1: especially since you know who he is. But, you know,
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  Speaker 1: that's that line that they kind of walk with Flash,
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  Speaker 1: where it's like, even the bad guys are like, we're
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  Speaker 1: not a completely opposed to killing, but we don't want to.
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  Speaker 7: That's what I was getting. That's what I was thinking
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  Speaker 7: before when you were comparing it to Spider-Man was like,
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  Speaker 7: that's the difference with the flash little sub universe is like,
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  Speaker 7: he doesn't have that rogues gallery.
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  Speaker 1: Of recognizable villains.
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  Speaker 7: Like everybody in Spider-Man's world, like normal person on the
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  Speaker 7: streets probably.
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  Speaker 8: Oh yeah. Dr.
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  Speaker 1: Octopus, the guy with the arms and like, but like,
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  Speaker 1: I didn't know half the ones that they brought in
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  Speaker 1: on flash. I'm like, Oh yeah, that's from the comic.
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  Speaker 1: I guess I need to, check into that because i
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  Speaker 1: barely read any flash comics growing up but like yeah
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  Speaker 1: i feel like they really kind of dig into it
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  Speaker 1: and like he's got good characters but he never really
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  Speaker 1: went like he was super mainstream as a character but
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  Speaker 1: the rest of his universe like i don't think anybody
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  Speaker 1: knows right so yeah i feel like flash is one
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  Speaker 1: of those people it's it's probably very difficult to write
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  Speaker 1: him i mean You know, it's willing to kind of
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  Speaker 1: go what we're about to get into. It's like Angel
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  Speaker 1: from X-Men. They tried so hard to make Angel relevant,
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  Speaker 1: but your powers, you have bird wings, period. There was
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  Speaker 1: no like super strength. There was no other. It's just
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  Speaker 1: you have wings. And it's like, how do you matter
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  Speaker 1: when we have Rogue and Storm and all these people
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  Speaker 1: that can just literally hover up there and fly without
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  Speaker 1: the wings? It's the same angle we get into every
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  Speaker 1: Avengers movie, too. I'm like, really, Hawkeye? I'm like, really?
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  Speaker 1: Bow and arrow. I mean, it's a fancy bow and arrow,
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  Speaker 1: and you're a good shot, but God. Thor's a God.
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  Speaker 1: There's a part of me that makes exceptions sometimes for
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  Speaker 1: villains that can seem flaky like that. And I feel
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  Speaker 1: like this is the argument that most people would make
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  Speaker 1: of Batman, is that it's not so much that he
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  Speaker 1: needed a power that makes him highly accurate, as much
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  Speaker 1: as you're just going, okay, look, man in general, as humans,
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  Speaker 1: as men, we can do some amazing shit. Like you
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  Speaker 1: look at Olympics, you look at like, you know, things
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  Speaker 1: where people spend their lives achieving one ability or skill.
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  Speaker 1: We can do some crazy, awesome shit. And I feel
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  Speaker 1: like again, with Batman and, and you know, Hawkeye and
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  Speaker 1: people like that, you're going, look, what would be possible
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  Speaker 1: for someone that, just shot a bow and arrow his
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  Speaker 1: whole life. He would be able to do some amazing,
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  Speaker 1: amazing stuff. And I'm not saying the movie is accurate. Like,
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  Speaker 1: someone really could do that stuff. But I've seen, there
• 13:54
  Speaker 1: was a fun video after the first Avengers movie. There was,
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  Speaker 1: don't know the dude's name. A long time ago. It
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  Speaker 1: was on YouTube. Some guy who was like some, that's
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  Speaker 1: what he does. He shoots bows. Some marksman was trying
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  Speaker 1: to emulate hawkeye stuff and he was doing his thing
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  Speaker 1: he learned how to kind of like shoot like three
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  Speaker 1: arrows in like five seconds like really insanely quick and
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  Speaker 1: then it was like he would set up bullseye targets
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  Speaker 1: and like jump off a ledge and like shoot one
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  Speaker 1: in the air i think i remember land roll shoot
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  Speaker 1: twice he was emulating these action shots and he wasn't
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  Speaker 1: bullseyeing but he was hitting the targets and there was
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  Speaker 1: a part of me was like that's kind of where
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  Speaker 1: my mind goes with people like hawkeye it's like yeah
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  Speaker 1: you know imagine man at his best with this talent
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  Speaker 1: and i think that's what you have to say with
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  Speaker 1: batman like a man the perfect detective mixed with like
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: the perfect hand-to-hand grappler who then can afford to outfit
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: himself in the perfectly financial situation yeah always always helps
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: iron man if you have so much money you can
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  Speaker 1: take down everybody else because you're so perfectly suited literally
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  Speaker 1: to like take on exactly and again especially as batman
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  Speaker 1: like continued to mutate the suit every time to fit
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  Speaker 1: whatever villain and like very much like iron man i
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  Speaker 1: mean it has like it's like document like 56 different
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  Speaker 1: iron suits because he has like one for every villain
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  Speaker 1: pretty much person you know which is what we saw
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  Speaker 1: in part two with the hulk buster armor it's like
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  Speaker 1: you know That was part two, right? That was Age
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  Speaker 1: of Ultron, yes.
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  Speaker 2: Not 2.5.
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  Speaker 1: God, I can't wait to watch that again. Iron Man
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  Speaker 1: versus Captain Marvel. No, but yeah, you know, that's one
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  Speaker 1: of those weird things about Angel, where it's like, even
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  Speaker 1: within the comic itself, you know, they tried doing him over.
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  Speaker 1: You know, Apocalypse in the comic was.
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  Speaker 1: Probably the most over he was. They didn't commit to
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  Speaker 1: it in the movie. Because in the comic, he renames
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  Speaker 1: him Archangel. That's what I was trying to decide. His skin,
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  Speaker 1: I think, turns like a blue. He starts wearing this
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  Speaker 1: purple outfit. And he can start shooting the wings like bullets.
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  Speaker 1: Like these metal blades. So in the comic, that finally
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  Speaker 1: made him awesome. To where even when the pocket stuff ended,
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  Speaker 1: they kind of kept him in that form. Like, can
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  Speaker 1: you keep the metal wings, please? Because you're kind of
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  Speaker 1: cool with the metal wings. But yeah, he's one of
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  Speaker 1: those people. It's just tough. Because his power is so
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  Speaker 1: kind of. it seems a little silly in the context
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  Speaker 1: of everyone else around. I was like, okay, yeah, bird wings,
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  Speaker 1: but we got tons of people that can fly without
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  Speaker 1: the wings. So I don't think the bird wings are
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: near as dorky as that haircut. What is it with Mohawk?
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  Speaker 1: On that note, I think we should, we should officially
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  Speaker 1: get into the movie. So let's, let's take our break
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: here and come back and start the entire thing.
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  Speaker 3: Hmm.
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  Speaker 5: He's one of us.
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  Speaker 5: He's one of us.
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  Speaker 8: Yes.
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  Speaker 6: Get back! Stay away from me!
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  Speaker 5: Talking meat for the apocalypse, doodle-a-doo, we're all gonna die. Hello,
• 19:37
  Speaker 5: this is Tom Kane, the voice of the professor.
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: From The Powerpuff Girls.
• 19:42
  Speaker 5: And you're listening to Movie Meltdown. Oh, I love it so.
• 19:46
  Speaker 8: Oh, no.
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: What if I don't get my official Red Raider fan?
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  Speaker 5: Carbine action 200 shot range rifle what's part.
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  Speaker 2: Of your problem you know you haven't seen enough movies
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: all of life's riddles are answered in.
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: The movies and now on with the.
• 20:02
  Speaker 6: Show Endless Apocalypse Endless.
• 20:23
  Speaker 8: Endless Apocalypse There wasn't any reason To change the melody
• 20:50
  Speaker 8: Are you.
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  Speaker 3: A real person Or do you.
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: Just play one on TV What is your stance on this?
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: Is it going to be a positive, a negative, kind
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: of hopping those sides? Let's just roll with it. I
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: got to the end, and I'm like, I'm not even
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: 100% sure. I enjoyed it, but then I started thinking, okay,
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: we're going to talk about this. And I'm like, what
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: exactly do I have to say? That's why I always
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: like to have a little time in between to process
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: and be like, Let it marinate.
• 21:48
  Speaker 7: What is my feelings on this movie as a whole?
• 21:51
  Speaker 7: So yeah, we will, I guess, find out as we
• 21:54
  Speaker 7: go along.
• 21:54
  Speaker 5: Get more out of life.
• 21:57
  Speaker 8: Go out to.
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: A movie.
• 22:10
  Speaker 9: Things are better.
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: The world is better.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: Just because there's not a war doesn't mean there's peace.
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: He's coming.
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  Speaker 3: Some call him Apocalypse.
• 22:27
  Speaker 6: He was some kind of god.
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: For thousands of years, he's been amassing mutants to take
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: their powers. He always had four followers.
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: Like the four horsemen.
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: Eric, don't join them. Whatever it is you think you
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: saw in me, I buried it with my family.
• 22:48
  Speaker 5: Together, we will cleanse the Earth.
• 22:51
  Speaker 8: Everything they've built will fall!
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: And from the ashes of their world, we'll build a
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: better one! I've never felt power like this before.
• 23:07
  Speaker 8: Charles!
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: They took him. Raven, the world needs the X-Men.
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: I'm not a hero. Students will come to you. If
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: I'm going to teach your kids something, I'm going to
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: teach them how to fight. Follow me.
• 23:28
  Speaker 5: I'm not afraid of him.
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: Magneto, he's my father.
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: What?
• 23:34
  Speaker 5: Him and my mom, they did.
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: No, I know.
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: Not all of us can control our powers. Then don't.
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: Apocalypse means to destroy this world. It's all of us
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: against a god and the most powerful beings on Earth.
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: Forget everything you think you know. None of that matters.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: You're not students anymore. Well, you've been busy.
• 24:32
  Speaker 5: We had a little help.
• 24:35
  Speaker 7: So, in this running superhero series, which has picked up
• 24:39
  Speaker 7: quite a bit in this last year, we once again
• 24:42
  Speaker 7: went out on the town. So this week's out on
• 24:44
  Speaker 7: the town feature is X-Men colon Apocalypse. The year is 2016.
• 24:49
  Speaker 7: The director, Bryan Singer, returns once again. And the plot,
• 24:54
  Speaker 7: according to IMDb, with the emergence of the world's first mutant, Apocalypse,
• 24:59
  Speaker 7: The X-Men must unite to defeat his extinction-level plan.
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: Awkwardly worded, as per usual.
• 25:07
  Speaker 8: All right.
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: So, spoiler alert, we're going to ruin this. We're going
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: to wreck this thing. I'm assuming you're a geek and
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: you've already seen it. If not, go watch it. There's
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: not a lot of spoilers in it, though, I would say,
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: at the same time. I mean, telling you what would
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: happen is a spoiler, but by no means was there
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: a twist moment. I don't think anything happened in this
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: where I was shocked. There are, as a comic book reader,
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: maybe I was shocked that they... adjustments went for things
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: yeah but i wouldn't say that like as a plot
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: it was like an oh my god moment so yeah
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: spoiler as in you know general you're gonna hear what
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: happens at the ends and some stuff happened even the
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: end like i wasn't shocked with any of it right
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: did you stay up there for the stinger too so
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: we can talk about that i did i can explain
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: that to you if you didn't understand.
• 25:46
  Speaker 7: Well i i yeah i i got the basics of
• 25:49
  Speaker 7: it in general and then i double checked the ethics
• 25:51
  Speaker 7: to make sure so right it's like all right man
• 25:53
  Speaker 7: we're setting up what what we all kind of knew
• 25:55
  Speaker 7: was coming anyway but Do we want to go right
• 25:58
  Speaker 7: from the end?
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: Do we want to address that? Well, I would, I
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: kind of want to start off by just saying generally, like,
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: I guess, you know, to give my too long, didn't
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: read before we even start. Like I, with the, you know, I'm,
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: I saw it original three back before, you know, back
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: before comic movies were, I don't even state it. They're
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: definitely at least financially respected now, but, Respected much more
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: than at the time of the first three and like
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: I think like everybody else the first one I was
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: just excited because they were my god X-Men movie. Yeah,
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: the second one felt better, you know that whole time
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: comic Integrity was you know, you know flaky, but you
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: were so happy to see it on screen. We were
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: willing third one was So for me when this all
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: picked back up, going back to first class, in my head,
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: I had checked out. I was that guy that was
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: just so just taken aback by that third one. I
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: was like, I just, I don't trust you. So first
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: class was a pleasant surprise. I was like, well, that's fun.
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: You were able to go back to a place where
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: you didn't have to worry about continuity. And in the
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: back of my head, I was like, man, it would
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: be great if this was a big reboot. Well, I
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: felt like it kind of was, but I thought maybe
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: it was a reboot all on its own to the
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: point of like, we the third one burned us so
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: bad too we agree with you guys we're totally starting
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: over we're gonna do whatever we want those don't exist
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: and that's what my point's gonna be that is my
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: the point i'm leading up to is that you know
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: in the back of my head i was hoping that
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: but i'm thinking in the real world there's no way
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: this is sony right sony or fox who's got.
• 27:31
  Speaker 7: This sony owns because sony had uh spider-man i think
• 27:35
  Speaker 7: this is fox yes it's.
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: Fox x-men apocalypse on foxmovies.com 20th century fox okay I guess,
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: you know, for me, when I think of X-Men, for me,
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: my favorite point in X-Men was 90s X-Men. Movies or comic-wise?
• 27:55
  Speaker 8: Comic.
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: Which are we talking about?
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: Well, just in general. You know, you go back to
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: the cartoon, the Marvel X-Men cartoon with Fox also probably
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: or whoever. I'm not looking it up again. I think
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: it also was Fox, yes. Just for me, it was,
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: you know, Jubilee, Rogue, Gambit. Jean Grey, Cyclops, you know,
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: just that click, that time. First Class and all that
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: was good and fun. I respect it for its history.
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: But for me, when I got into X-Men, what was
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: exciting to me was when, this is where it's all
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: going to kind of lead to, was during the Dark
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: Phoenix stuff. That's when I was getting really enveloped in X-Men.
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: So when First Class started, or they, you know, they
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: did First Class, they did Days of Future Past, I
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: felt like they were fun movies. But in the back
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: of my head, I was like, man, wouldn't it be great?
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: Because you have reset the timeline period, especially with the
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: last one. You finally, that's what I think is really cool.
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm so excited about. Cause with the way
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: this movie ends, and this is where I think the
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: movie will be confusing to people. Cause I felt like
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: two things were happening with this movie. I felt on one,
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: we were telling a story of X-Men apocalypse too. I
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: feel like it's kind of like what you got in
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: Spider-Man in the civil war movie. But for like a
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: third in a movie. I feel like the reason this
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: movie was 2 hours and 45 minutes long. Was it?
• 29:13
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: I mean. It was long. It didn't seem that.
• 29:17
  Speaker 6: Again.
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: If you would have told me that beforehand. I probably
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: would have been like.
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: Oh God.
• 29:20
  Speaker 8: But.
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: I didn't feel. I do feel like I hit a
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: good ways in.
• 29:24
  Speaker 7: And I felt like it wasn't going as. It wasn't
• 29:28
  Speaker 7: moving as quickly as I assumed it would.
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: And I was like.
• 29:31
  Speaker 7: If it just kind of ends here in the next
• 29:34
  Speaker 7: 20 minutes. Like this movie might not be that great.
• 29:37
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: So, I can I can come back to that, but yeah, I,
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: I didn't feel like it was overly long, but okay.
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: So what was your, I just feel like this was,
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: you know, I feel like maybe, you know, what I
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: was optimistic about is actually coming to fruition here. I
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: feel like singer, when singer did first class, not to
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: make this a history lesson still, but when singer did
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: first class, although he didn't direct first class, What did
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: he do on it then? He wrote it or something, right?
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: They brought him back in. He might be producer. Okay. Well,
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: it was about a quote then anyway. It was what
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: he was saying about it. I think he was back
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: to being involved at least. He said that, you know,
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: because there was so much backlash after the third one
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: that he even said, he was like, you know, I
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: have a tough thing to do here because I agree.
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: He was like, I kind of agree. We didn't wrap
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: that up well. He hated the third one. He's like,
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: and I have the chance here to start over, but
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: He's like, I don't want to poop on the other ones.
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: Especially the ones he made. So he kind of, again,
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: me being optimistic, I was like, well, maybe that's his
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: way of saying he's got a lot of real tricky
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: threading of the needle to do here. He's got a
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: lot of weird loose ends to tie. But I feel
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: like that's what this third movie did. It was a
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: way to go, look, let's wrap up the old stuff
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: I did. Seal that up. It's done. It's gone. But
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: the next movie, the next movie, it's almost like these
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: three movies were their origin story. Because with the way
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: this movie ends, you have that young X-Men 90s squad
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: with an outright blatant, it's not even a hint, like
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: showing you that Dark Phoenix stuff is going to happen.
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: Showing you that Mr. Sinister stuff is going to happen.
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: And with the way it ended, like, that last shot
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: in the danger room where you have the cast there,
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: you have Professor X, you have Magneto, and that friend-foe
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: status still, like, this is exactly the way it should
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: be to do X-Men 90 Squad. Like, now, and to
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: take it even further, you know, like, you have a
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: cameo with Wolverine, a huge scene with Hugh Jackman. That
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: whole thing felt to me like their Spider-Man sequence.
• 31:49
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, pretty much. It's just setting up. Because they could
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: have went anywhere. You know, a catastrophe happens at the school.
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: They escape. And the way it's done is like when
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: they escape, they go to this place for 15 minutes
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: and then come back to the core story. That didn't
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: have to happen at all. I'm not saying I was
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: offended by it at all.
• 32:07
  Speaker 7: It was definitely fun for the people who know. Even
• 32:11
  Speaker 7: if you're just like a movie fan level person. Like
• 32:13
  Speaker 7: you're like, well, we know. That's something they almost over tread.
• 32:18
  Speaker 7: in these series is the Wolverine backstory and recreating it
• 32:22
  Speaker 7: and redoing it.
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, this is a little segment we didn't
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: really see. It was really short and we got to
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: see him go berserk, which is really all I like
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: is just watching him just plow through people like that.
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: That's really all we wanted because we knew he wasn't
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: going to be the lead because he doesn't want to
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: do a ton more anyway. So I was like, it's nice.
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: It's nice that he plays along. Like, every movie he
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: shows up, even if he's just to tell you to
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: fuck off, he shows up. So it's like, it's nice
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: that he's like, you know, you guys made me. Like,
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't be anybody, really.
• 32:52
  Speaker 8: Right.
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: I remember when they cast that first movie, I went, who? Like,
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: Wolverine's like the biggest dude in comics. Why would you
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: pick a nobody? We were all... The movie came out,
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: I was like, no, you're right. That dude knows what
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: he's doing. So I was like... I was one of
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: those people going, who the hell is this nobody that
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: they cast? So he does, you know, owe them a
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: favor because he's the.
• 33:12
  Speaker 7: Reason he stars in Les Mis and does the song
• 33:15
  Speaker 7: and dance movies that he really wants to do. But yeah,
• 33:20
  Speaker 7: I think it is kind of cool that he does
• 33:21
  Speaker 7: play along and he keeps coming back and is probably
• 33:24
  Speaker 7: going to cash another major check on another movie.
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: I'm sure of it. he's not, I don't, I mean,
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: he made it clear he doesn't want to do any
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: more movies, but I will be shocked if he doesn't
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: cameo in every other movie going on. Cause I feel like, again,
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: you know, I felt like this was that Spider-Man moment
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: in the sense that I think it achieved two things. One,
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: I think it reminded you that Wolverine has one more
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: movie still, and that it's going to be R rated.
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: I think the fact that they chose this scene was
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: kind of ingenious. Cause like, here's a moment where he
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: was just, he was just, like he just he was
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: just an animal he was yeah he kills all these
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: people and while it wasn't in your face visceral it
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: it kind of tiptoed that line of like showing him
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: doing motions that you know were disgusting because you always
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: get and you did to get this you always get
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: that that stab where it's just his fist up against
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: someone's chest or you can't see the blades at all
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: you know not the but this was there was a
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: lot of swiping motions this time that put blood on
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: the walls you didn't see him cut But it put
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: bloods on the walls. And that's because the third Wolverine
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: movie is going to be R-rated. I think that's a
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: way of going, look, you're going to get a whole
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: new Wolverine this time. We're going all in on the
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: gore because that's how he is in the comic. Well,
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: I thought that for this movie, for a PG-13 movie,
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: there's a lot of death.
• 34:43
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: They off a lot of people. And they didn't undo
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: it at the end.
• 34:46
  Speaker 8: No.
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: They were just like all those guys. Millions and millions
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: and millions of people are dead and they stayed dead. Well,
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: I was.
• 34:55
  Speaker 7: Just like even in the scenes we see like in
• 34:57
  Speaker 7: the beginning where I'm trying to think which like first off.
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: It started off with Apocalypse's history. Well, I mean, they
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: kill people there. But then like when you have Apocalypse
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: just like drop in that room full of guys. Out
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: of nowhere. They didn't do anything. One of them narked
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: on him. But other than that, it was like nothing
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: like those guys were totally innocent. Just like dead. So
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: I'm like, all right. Granted, it's not violent death, but
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: we just saw a lot of people get killed. Then
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: there's the soldier scene with Wolverine. There's like two or
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: three other times where we just see people get laid out. No,
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: there's plenty of times where the room got cleared. Yeah.
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: Magneto cleared a room. Yeah. Wolverine cleared a room. Apocalypse cleared. Yeah,
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: that's what I was thinking. The necklace. That was the
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: first one I was thinking. Him just like slicing that
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: whole group of dudes. The moment the necklace was in
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: his hand, I even whispered to his wife. I was like,
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: they're all dead. I was like, here it goes. He's
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: about to do the quarter with the necklace. That's going through. Yeah,
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: I was just thinking, that's going through everybody behind him.
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: Everyone out with that one little necklace. And how poetic
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: and metaphoric was that whole, that was beautiful. That's, you know,
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: we're going to be all over the place. I'm already
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: jumping out. As far as acting goes, Fassbender. I love
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: this dude as Magneto. I love him. He's just an
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: amazing actor. He really is. To McKellen and Stewart, obviously,
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: but Fassbender, he, above and beyond, I love the dude
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: that does Professor X2.
• 36:16
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: But Fassbender, like, if we're just talking acting, he is
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: throwing pearls to the swine with Magneto. Like, I love
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: him for it, but he's, like, making everyone, he's showing
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: you just how much everyone else is underacting or is
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: just not at his level. Like, that scene where he
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: went back to the steel mill after that traumatic scene
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: with the family, and you're just like, God, you guys
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: are all.
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: Going to die.
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: But just his face, the whole, you know, I'm not,
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: whatever his name, I'm not James, I'm Magneto, and just, he's,
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: his expressions are so great he does such a good
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: job of doing what i what i felt from magneto
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: in a comic of that xavier is right he is
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: he was born a good person there's just been so
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: much trauma in his life he's just he he's just
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: overcome with rage and he needs people like xavier to
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: keep him grounded or he's gonna go off on the
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: loose end and be magneto.
• 37:10
  Speaker 7: That's since we've already we've we've gone into magneto here's
• 37:15
  Speaker 7: my main magneto point and i probably would make it
• 37:17
  Speaker 7: every movie as we do this um how many times
• 37:21
  Speaker 7: though can he turn on them like he will change
• 37:25
  Speaker 7: sides usually averages about three times a move like if
• 37:30
  Speaker 7: he starts out good he'll go bad and then come
• 37:32
  Speaker 7: back to good or like the middle time around he's
• 37:35
  Speaker 7: bad they bring him back to.
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: Good then he's bad again i'm like he does it
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: in the comics if it were one movie I could
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: let it slide but it's three now and each time
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: I'm like how many times is he gonna screw you
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: guys over that you're gonna bring him back I know
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: that's kind of Xavier's thing they were friends like it
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: does make sense but I'm just like in what other
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: comic movie is like all of a sudden you know
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: Loki he's like X-Men's Loki Loki's not even a villain
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: though at least again I'm just basing on the movies
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: trust me on the movies they're gonna hammer him home
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: as a villain I mean at the end of the
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: last Thor movie people don't I shouldn't say people don't remember,
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: but it didn't do as well, and I don't feel
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: people hear people talk about it. I was like, Loki
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: won at the end of that Thor movie. He is
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: ruling Asgard right now. People forget that that end scene,
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: him in the throne with the spear, he successfully is
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: acting as Odin.
• 38:24
  Speaker 8: Remember?
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: He's just too... He is a bad guy. On the
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: one hand, he's too likable. Because Tom Hiddleston's fault. I know.
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: Because in the comic, he is slimy. Fangirls love him
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: so much. he's weasley i'm gonna say whatever it takes
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: get out this kind of guy tom hiddleston is just
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: the whole cast has done this he's changed the core
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: person that he is because tom hiddleston is just too
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: likable and he delivers those lines so well with such
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: snark that you just you can't not like him the
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: rest of them though like like i said before with
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: like chris evans He turned that character for me. His
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: charisma made it make sense. It made everything work that
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: I didn't care about before. Loki kind of went the
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: other way because he's supposed to be a villain, but
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: he's so charismatic that it's not even an evil charismatic.
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: Loki's like the con man guy, though. That's the reason.
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: He's the confidence man. He's always working both sides when
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: he needs to, but he's still supposed to seem like
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: a villain. But by the end, that was one of
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: my issues with the first Avengers movie is we don't
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: really have a good villain. Loki kind of isn't the villain.
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: The bad guys are usually.
• 39:30
  Speaker 7: useless nameless faceless we just need a destruction at the
• 39:33
  Speaker 7: end of the movie don't get me wrong that seems
• 39:34
  Speaker 7: badass but those aren't villains they're just things destroying something
• 39:39
  Speaker 7: and they're nameless and we kill them right and left
• 39:42
  Speaker 7: because we want to you know because we need bad
• 39:44
  Speaker 7: guys in quotes so yeah i mean that that's the
• 39:47
  Speaker 7: issue i have with that first movie and and just
• 39:50
  Speaker 7: villains in general but i was thinking like how many
• 39:52
  Speaker 7: times if we if you switch to a way more
• 39:55
  Speaker 7: well-known villain how many times is the joker gonna be
• 39:57
  Speaker 7: like batman let's just be friends and you know he's
• 40:01
  Speaker 7: not just going to shoot him or stab him we're
• 40:03
  Speaker 7: like we know he could pretend but he's not gonna
• 40:07
  Speaker 7: do it very convincingly we're all knowing that he's really
• 40:09
  Speaker 7: up to something where the magneto thing is like.
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: It's legit like He's, I guess, such a.
• 40:15
  Speaker 7: And again, I think a lot of this goes back
• 40:17
  Speaker 7: to the acting, too. If it was played worse, we'd
• 40:20
  Speaker 7: probably be like, whatever.
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: Right. But because Fassbender is so damn.
• 40:26
  Speaker 7: Committed to showing what a human being he is, that
• 40:30
  Speaker 7: he really does go through periods of like, all right,
• 40:34
  Speaker 7: you've got a point, it'll be okay as long as
• 40:37
  Speaker 7: I just try to stay on the straight and narrow,
• 40:39
  Speaker 7: and then.
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: Shit goes wrong. That kind of... you know, makes me again,
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: optimistic about the future. I feel like maybe Magneto more than, yeah,
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: I think it's fair to say, I think more than
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: any one individual person in this, including Apocalypse, I think
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: Magneto had more depth and groped and time than anyone else.
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: I think in the first part, that was what I
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: was going to say. Like midway into the movie, I'm like,
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: Fassbender really got sidelined.
• 41:07
  Speaker 8: Oh, yeah.
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: I guess after he's blown up stuff.
• 41:09
  Speaker 7: Once Oscar Isaac steps up and they just stand on
• 41:12
  Speaker 7: that mountain for 45 minutes, I'm like, Fassbender has nothing
• 41:16
  Speaker 7: to do here. I'm surprised they signed him on for
• 41:18
  Speaker 7: this much, I'm assuming, time invested when.
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: He's really not a major part in the whole last
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: half of the movie until the finale. Let me kind
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: of reword it like this. I didn't mean most of
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: the movie was about him, but I guess if you
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: were to line everyone up as individuals, Magneto had the most...
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: You know, development and stuff. As an individual one person.
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: And I think that was, again, probably now on purpose
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: because he is going to be your.
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: Well, it gets tricky. It depends. It looks like they're
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: doing Fire Phoenix or Dark Phoenix.
• 41:49
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: I would even go to the point to say that, like,
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: when she's having the visions in the beginning... and it's
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: fire and brimstone, and she sees Apocalypse, I think the
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: twist will be that that wasn't Apocalypse. That wasn't Apocalypse,
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: that's her. It flickered Apocalypse. I think really, yeah, she's
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: seeing what's in her and what's coming.
• 42:04
  Speaker 7: It works in a little of both. It's like we get,
• 42:06
  Speaker 7: oh yeah, don't trust Apocalypse. Obviously, he's a weird, creepy
• 42:10
  Speaker 7: dude that's going to bring about the end of the
• 42:11
  Speaker 7: world if he has his way, but even more destructive
• 42:15
  Speaker 7: is you.
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: It's the little redhead in the dorm upstairs. No, I
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: feel like I'm tree ranching all over the place, but
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: I don't know if, you know, They'll do a trilogy.
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: Maybe that's why it got hints in Mr. Sinister. Maybe
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: the first movie will be about Mr. Sinister, but we'll
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: build up Dark Phoenix. Magneto will be on and off.
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: But I feel like building up Magneto is... Alright, no,
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: I can say this all the way around. We didn't
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: build up much Jennifer Lawrence. She was on the screen
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: a whole lot. A whole lot. She didn't really look
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: like she wanted.
• 42:42
  Speaker 5: To be there.
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: Well, that's the thing.
• 42:44
  Speaker 7: I thought by the end, I was like, oh, maybe
• 42:46
  Speaker 7: she's pulling the Robert Downey Jr.
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: Maybe she's like... Or the Han Solo movie. If you
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: guys want to go ahead and kill me in this movie,
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: it's cool. As he's got her by the throat, I
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: was like, oh, maybe this is her ticket out of
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: this franchise. So, again, I thought for a second there.
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: I was like, she's logged in free. She might be
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: ready to move on. She's making Oscar caliber movies now.
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: She doesn't have to make superhero movies if she doesn't
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: want to. So, yeah. I mean, there is definitely a
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: feeling of like, I'm here because I need to be here.
• 43:17
  Speaker 8: Right.
• 43:18
  Speaker 7: But yeah, she doesn't seem overly committed to the way
• 43:21
  Speaker 7: that the Magneto character is.
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: When the first X-Men movies were going on, you had
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: Halle Berry. You knew, if you looked on the internet
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: at all and stuff, that she was heavily influencing a
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: lot of stuff. She wanted more airtime. She wanted a big,
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: richer part. And that stuff kind of happened in the
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: third movie, which is kind of why the third movie
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: was so bad, because they did so much stuff just
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: for her. You know, that's obviously what happened to Jennifer Lawrence.
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: Not that Jennifer Lawrence isn't necessarily pushing it this time.
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: As much as the company going, holy F, we got
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: you in first class, you know you're a big deal,
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: we're going to focus the movie on you. Which I
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: think has been a huge detriment to comic readers because...
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: but i don't think i think raven is a bad
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: guy and you're making her the hero of the x-men
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: which has never happened that's what i was thinking earlier
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: i was like i'm because we've got this new reset
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: timeline i'm like if you want to redo everything at
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: this point fucking do it like i was like if
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: you want to keep storm on the bad side you
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: know what that'd be kind of interesting you want to
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: keep raven all the way through you'll be in the
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: right hand man to xavier that'd be kind of interesting. Like,
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: because we've reset it, we've, we've skewed the timeline enough
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: that we could still have all the same characters and
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: still interacting with each other, but maybe they fall on
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: the other side. And I'm like, that's kind of interesting. Like,
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: I'm okay with them doing that, which.
• 44:45
  Speaker 7: They're probably not going to because it'll piss off comic
• 44:47
  Speaker 7: book fans.
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: But I'm like, to me, I would be okay.
• 44:50
  Speaker 7: Like we, and some of it's financially speaking because they
• 44:52
  Speaker 7: know they have Jennifer Lawrence.
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: They want to keep her on screen. They want to
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: make her arguably a good guy because that's probably going
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: to be a man recast and use that money on
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: something else. Because I think that as a comic book reader,
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: I'm going to do both here. I don't want to
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: keep saying just as a comic book reader. But as
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: someone coming from the comic angle, having Mystique, who's been
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: nothing but a bad guy, as a champion of X-Men
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: is weird. It'd be like Evil Lin butting up at He-Man.
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: It's like, you're with Skeletor. What are you doing over here?
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: It would be interesting. But on the flip, I think
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: that it's not even doing well for just film goers.
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: Because she's just calling them in. She's not even delivering stellar...
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: I thought everybody was top of their game in Future's Past.
• 45:35
  Speaker 7: I'm talking about Apocalypse. In this one, it's not that
• 45:39
  Speaker 7: she's doing a bad job. It just doesn't seem like
• 45:41
  Speaker 7: she's trying to do anything outside of.
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: Some of it's the writing. Some of it is her
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: character is just written to take them from one thing
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: to the next. She shows up to okay, we have
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: to get these characters that we need. She's the bellhop
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: from Four Rooms. Yeah, she's like literally like, hey, young
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: kids over here. Hey, Magneto over here. Hey, Xavier over here. Hey,
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: Apocalypse over here. She brings everyone to one point. And
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: she's meant to move the plot along more than anything else.
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: We need to get these characters into the plot. Okay,
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: I'm going to go get them. Oh, now we find
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: out this thing about Magneto. Well, I need to bring
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: myself back to the school, even though I've been gone
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: for a decade. Like we... everything feels written for her
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: character to be not really that important other than to
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: the plot of the movie, not with her character. So
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: I don't totally blame her, but at the same time,
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: she's like, I got three movies to make right now. Whatever.
• 46:33
  Speaker 7: I'll show up and do what I need to do,
• 46:34
  Speaker 7: but I got to go like make another Oscar caliber movie.
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: I think, I think, you know, they noticed she doesn't
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: want to be around anymore. And I think that, um,
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: which didn't hit me at first. And so I really
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: thought about it. Cause you know, at the end, Again,
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: you get this last shot with them all in the
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: danger room, and she is for the first time wearing
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: Mystique's outfit. That's what blew my head at the moment.
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: I was like, she's got the white collared blue. I
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: was like, I've never seen her in that. The very
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: end of the third movie, this is probably the last
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: time we're going to see her, and she finally puts
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: on Mystique's outfit. My thing with that is that they
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: kept talking about it all movie. Why are you ashamed
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: of your blue side? Why are you ashamed of your
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: blue side? And now at the end, she's like proud
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: of her blue side. I think if you got to
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: recast Mystique, it's probably going to be a lot easier
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: if that person is mostly in the blue Mystique gear.
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: I mean, because if she changed her look to look
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: like other people, that's fine. She doesn't have to look
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: like Jennifer Lawrence anymore. You could almost, if you have
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: to do it, if you have to maintain Mystique going forward,
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: the best way to do that is to go... she's
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: going to be in her blue, which is how it
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: is in a comic. She maintains that blue look most
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: of the time. So again, just me backing up my
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: theory again, that this is more about leading to the future.
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: I think that's how they're kind of dealing with Jennifer
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: Lawrence being gone.
• 47:54
  Speaker 7: I think it is, but I also think there's a way, again,
• 47:59
  Speaker 7: watching that final scene, she's just seeming like, okay, I'm the.
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: General of this little thing.
• 48:04
  Speaker 7: So I think from that point on, she could back
• 48:07
  Speaker 7: out both within the context of the story and the
• 48:09
  Speaker 7: context of making the movie.
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: Or she just goes missing. I think, well, I think
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: she could be. The next movie could be like, we
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: don't know where Magneto is and we all know that
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: Mystique is off looking for him.
• 48:18
  Speaker 7: She'll be back later. I think she's going to be
• 48:20
  Speaker 7: the new Hugh Jackman. I think it'll be one of
• 48:22
  Speaker 7: those like, she's not in the movie very much. And
• 48:25
  Speaker 7: then every once in a while, they'll be like, who's
• 48:26
  Speaker 7: this guy?
• 48:27
  Speaker 6: Oh, look.
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: And she'll change over and it's Jennifer Lawrence. And she's like,
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: did you go to the favor? Here I am.
• 48:31
  Speaker 7: So like, I think, yeah, I think that's potential where
• 48:34
  Speaker 7: that could go. And it may be easier for everybody
• 48:37
  Speaker 7: if she's just like, I'm just going to back off.
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: But again, you guys helped me out. So I'm like,
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: I'll still come back and do a cameo when you
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: need it. But so, yeah, I think I think that's
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: probably true of a lot of these people. Maybe I
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: don't know.
• 48:49
  Speaker 7: It's like as we get to the older crew, it's
• 48:52
  Speaker 7: like maybe they're going to not bring in as much.
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: Magneto for a movie or two.
• 48:57
  Speaker 7: Maybe he's going to be not the main villain or
• 48:59
  Speaker 7: even part of the hero crew. He's just going to
• 49:01
  Speaker 7: be taken out because he did wander off. So maybe
• 49:04
  Speaker 7: we're going to skip two movies.
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: He's not going to be in them. And then the
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: third in this next trilogy, he comes back. When the
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: Dark Phoenix stuff happens, then yeah, definitely Magneto and Mystique
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: come back. And that's why I think they're doing the
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: Essex score and you're going to have Mr. Sinister. That's
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: why it makes me wonder if they don't have a
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: whole other... maybe, again, they got smart about it and
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: are like, let's start thinking long-term, which is, again, which
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: has kind of surprised me. It's made me wonder if
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: they've been thinking long-term for a while now. Maybe. And
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: that's what we're seeing. It's like, let's think long-term. Let's
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: recreate the X-Men. What is arguably one of the pentacle
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: times in X-Men history?
• 49:38
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: The 90s.
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: The 90s is when you had great, great, great X-Men
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: stuff going on. And it seems like all of this is...
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: And they confirm that the next X-Men movie will be
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: in the 90s. The same way this one was in
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: the 80s. How awesome was it to hear 80s music
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: and 80s fashion all over? I loved it. They keep
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: backing it. Yeah, every year we jump ahead 10 years.
• 49:58
  Speaker 7: And that's what I loved about that first one is how,
• 50:03
  Speaker 7: because it's set in the 60s, they also... made it
• 50:08
  Speaker 7: part of history. That was my favorite thing about first
• 50:11
  Speaker 7: class was the fact that.
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: They took the fictional fantasy comic book world and made
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: it make sense in the real world of like horrible
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: things going on in our actual times. Like Cuban missile
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: crisis happened because mutants, you know, I'm like, that's kind
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: of awesome.
• 50:29
  Speaker 7: Like that's smart writing, especially in something that's dealing with
• 50:33
  Speaker 7: going back in time.
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: Um, Not in a time travel sense like the next one.
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: But even then we skip to the 70s and you
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: see all the like turmoil that's going on in the
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: 70s in the real world.
• 50:43
  Speaker 7: And we now make it about mutants or at least
• 50:45
  Speaker 7: add mutants to the stuff that was already going on
• 50:48
  Speaker 7: in the 70s.
• 50:48
  Speaker 8: So.
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: They are pretty clever. This one was kind of light
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: on that angle. Like, we didn't really touch, I guess,
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: just the nuke. I saw some members only jackets and
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: things like that. Yeah, the costumes and the music were
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: the bulk of it.
• 51:00
  Speaker 7: It didn't feel like it was, like, important social events
• 51:03
  Speaker 7: of the 80s other than nukes everywhere.
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: And Jubilee is just always 80s as fuck. So, like,
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: her with the big yellow jacket and the hoop rings. Like,
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: this is perfect right now. They just ditched her, though.
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: She's a kid. Leave her here. Again, that's why I really, really...
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: You know, I feel... I feel kind of bad because
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: I feel like we're still not actually talking about the
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: movie as much as just how it made me feel
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: after seeing it. I just feel like this whole movie,
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: in a way, was a promise. It was going, look,
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: as a movie, I completely understand it. Almost the same
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: way with Civil War. If you hadn't watched another X-Men movie,
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: you can't watch this. It will not make any sense
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: if you have not watched the other X-Men movies. They
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: all kind of get to that point because that's my,
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: I mean, as we went over sort of with Age
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: of Ultron, I'm like, I feel like that. I said
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: it before, is a bigger story than what they crammed
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: into the length of that movie. But it was almost like, well,
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: but we need to get to Infinity Gauntlet. Right. So
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: we've got to hurry up and get this stuff done
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: so that we can check all the boxes we need
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: to get done to be able to get to this
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: thing that we've been promising since the first movie post-credits.
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: So it's like, we've got to get to this guy.
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: We've got to get to the Infinity Gauntlet. We've got
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: to get all this stuff done.
• 52:18
  Speaker 7: Done because we set this timetable so it's like we
• 52:21
  Speaker 7: don't have time for a two-part age.
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: Of ultron movie we just got to knock it out
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: in one i feel like this is kind of that
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: same thing of like okay we want to be able
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: to get past all this and do whatever we want
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: with the x-men right But here's a story that people
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: kind of know if you're a comic book fan and
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: we want to work that in too. But we want
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: to make sure we get to the point. We want
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: to hit all the little areas we need to hit
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: so that we can move forward and do what we
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: want to do. So I think it is kind of
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: that same idea. I completely agree. Yeah, I definitely think
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: that this was the X-Men's age of Ultron. The sense
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: that Ultron was such a huge villain, you could have
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: easily done multiple movies to encompass him. Apocalypse more so.
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: Apocalypse is so, so huge in the X-Men mythos.
• 53:00
  Speaker 8: Like, it....
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: He's like their Thanos, almost, in many senses. He's like,
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: he's so old. He's like, in the comic, he is
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: like the origin of almost all religion. You know, like
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: his whole, oh gosh, it's been forever. His, they said
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: it a couple times in a movie, but I forget
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: what it actually is, so don't hate me for not
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: saying it. Like, his actual name, or his first thing,
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: he's called like An-Ranun-Sa, or something. Yeah, they hadn't credited
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: it as that, too. It's an Arabic phrase, which, in
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: the comic, they said means the first one. But, the
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: literal translation in arabic is the morning light which is
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: that close to morning star i mean and you know
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: he's supposed to be like this the bringer of false
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: religion like he is this guy that through time wakes
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: up kind of checks the status of humanity he's like
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: what are you guys worshiping what are you doing stop
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: that and he kind of creates these religions and stuff
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: throughout time he is supposed to be like the great
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: deceiver in that regard like he's the one that's kind
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: of making sure people were like worshiping him in, in
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: weird ways. So he's such a bigger, bigger, bigger, there
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: could have been huge scope on him. You could have
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: done so much more and things like, you know, as
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: awesome as it was to me to see, um, apocalypse
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: and Xavier fight the psychic battle. I thought that was
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: once it started, I was like, Oh my God, this
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: is so, cause that stuff happens in the comic a
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: lot where you go in this weird realm and you
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: know that they're psychically battling. So when it, Put him
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: in that kind of cloud space, like, oh my gosh,
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: we're going to get a psychic battle. What was a
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: little upsetting, and I'm sure this is the kind of
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: thing that's going to make a lot of people not
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: like the movie, is that Apollos could do that stuff anytime.
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: He could have swelled up to a huge size when
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: they were having the big fight at the end. He
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: had so many more abilities and powers than the movie
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: let him have. The movie almost just made him like
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: a mouthpiece. You know, they did a whole, he can
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: absorb mutants kind of thing. And it's like, he's way
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: more powerful than that. Which is, again, the arguments that
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: made Ultron. It's like, Ultron is way more sinister and
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: dark and meaner than what he is.
• 55:04
  Speaker 7: We have all these huge, and it's funny, they get
• 55:07
  Speaker 7: more and more interstellar, I guess, as they go on.
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: Because you get, like, Apocalypse, but then the.
• 55:13
  Speaker 7: Main, well, there's a couple of the main ones in, like,
• 55:16
  Speaker 7: the Guardians of the Galaxy little realm. That are kind
• 55:19
  Speaker 7: of that same thing. And then we have Thanos kind
• 55:21
  Speaker 7: of doing the same thing.
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: Well, they hinted at the Celestials. Each one of these.
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: In the beginning, the weird technology with the sun. Yeah.
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: In the comic, he took that from a group of
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: people called the Celestials, which is a huge intergalactic kind
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: of race of people. It's, you know. So, yeah. I mean,
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: they are. They are. They.
• 55:36
  Speaker 8: You know.
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: You see a lot of things that you know the
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: deeper meaning of. And this is. just for me repeating this.
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: You know the deeper meaning of this comic reading. You go, oh,
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: I know what that is. I know what this is
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: and stuff. And I'm sure that a lot of people
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: that haven't were probably a bit more like, I get
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: the idea of what's going on here, but I'm sure
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: that even an average moviegoer is going to be like,
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: I feel like there's a lot more going on. I
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: didn't get there. I'm sure that's going to happen again.
• 56:02
  Speaker 7: This movie is playing more toward the comic book fans, whereas, again,
• 56:07
  Speaker 7: I think Days of Future Past is almost like a
• 56:09
  Speaker 7: bottle episode.
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 56:10
  Speaker 7: Like you could just come in having never seen a
• 56:12
  Speaker 7: damn thing and be like, that was a good movie.
• 56:15
  Speaker 4: Right, right.
• 56:15
  Speaker 7: You just kind of have the basic idea of what
• 56:17
  Speaker 7: mutants are and they can have this power and this
• 56:19
  Speaker 7: power and whatever.
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: And then you'll be like, oh, that was kind of cool.
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: And then they all wrapped it up. So I'm like
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: that one. And I think I guess that's what I
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: was hinting at earlier. It's like that I think was
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: sort of my issue with it is I think this
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: and it's it is funny that they're both Bryan Singer.
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: Like he did direct Days of Future Past. I feel
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: like the structuring and the timing and the movement is
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: so perfect on days of future past that like I
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: got into this. And like I said, I'm like probably
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: an hour something in. And I'm like, where's this going?
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: I was just like, they did it. Like, I don't
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: mind that the Egypt set up and I don't mind
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: coming back in and checking in with, you know, our,
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: our characters and like starting to gather the meetings. That's important.
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: We have to do that.
• 57:02
  Speaker 7: But like it was like, I was kind of midway
• 57:04
  Speaker 7: in and I'm like, am I liking this movie? And
• 57:07
  Speaker 7: it wasn't until, until they destroy the school, basically like
• 57:12
  Speaker 7: from that point on. And it's, it's because it changed. Like,
• 57:15
  Speaker 7: I feel like it's kind of uneven because from that
• 57:18
  Speaker 7: point on, it's the Scooby gang is going to go
• 57:21
  Speaker 7: rescue our heroes.
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, okay, that's fun. Like all of a
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: sudden it changed.
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: And it was like, right.
• 57:26
  Speaker 7: I like hanging out with these characters. I like, you know,
• 57:28
  Speaker 7: we go on the little side trip. And then from
• 57:30
  Speaker 7: that point on, they're all kind of working as a
• 57:32
  Speaker 7: team and they're trying to defeat him.
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, from that point on, it was fun.
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: And that's why I feel like this movie is the promise.
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: It's the promise of this is what's coming. And that's
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: why I feel like the movie was convoluted because you
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: had the plot of the movie, but I feel like,
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: you know, and again, I keep calling it the Spider-Man
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: thing as in Civil War, but I feel like you
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: had a dozen Spider-Man scenes peppered in. Instead of one,
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: you had a dozen because it was like, you know,
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: plot with apocalypse and hey, look, Jean Grey and there's
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: little dark Phoenix and apocalypse. And Hey, look, Cyclops, he
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: got his lenses and apocalypse. And Hey, look, uh, nightcrawler,
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: you know? And you just, yeah. When you get to
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: the point where the kids all meet up from then
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: on somewhere in the middle of the movie, that's when
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: it was clicking to me. I was like, okay, at
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: this point, even if everything with apocalypse is awful, what
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: you are establishing as like my favorite nineties, click of
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: X-Men is, is, giving me wood right now i'm like
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: if you keep these guys tight i don't even care
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: if you know everything else is a mess if you
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: keep these guys tight the next movie it's nothing but
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: the tightness you know it's just that young x-men click
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: magneto is the bad guy you know he can be
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: good and evil Professor X is bald being Professor X.
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: You got the school. The world is going to hate mutants.
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: You reconfirmed again that we remember what Sentinels were. In
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: my head, I'm going, this is the ideal setup for
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: that 90s X-Men story. It sucks that Apocalypse kind of
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: got trashed to get there. It sucks that we threw
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: Angel and... in the garbage can to get there. Psylocke
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: was such a letdown, not in how she looks. If
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: you were to watch it muted, that outfit looked awesome.
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: She moved awesome. But she had a total of 12 words.
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: Not even 12 sentences, 12 words. I could barely separate it, but.
• 59:30
  Speaker 7: And I'm sure I'm not unlike most geeks out there.
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: The whole time I'm just like, Livia Munn's so freaking hot.
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: The whole time I'm like, and then she gets in
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: the costume. I'm like, shit.
• 59:40
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: Like, this is ridiculous. There was a, I remember like
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: when she was put into like the Street Fighter versus
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: X-Men game back in the 90s, like the Capcom fighting game.
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: I remember thinking, damn, that girl makes me feel a
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: little dirty. Like, I shouldn't be this attracted to.
• 59:56
  Speaker 8: A video game.
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: I think it's because she's such a dork. You know,
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: that's the thing.
• 59:59
  Speaker 7: I see plenty of hot girls. There's tons of, like,
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 7: models out there that are quote-unquote hot.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: But I'm like, because I know she's one of us,
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: because she is a complete and utter dork above all,
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: and on top of that is into all the genre
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: geeky stuff, I'm just like, that makes her so much hotter.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: I think knowing that, it's hard for me to even
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: put her and watch her in movies. I haven't seen
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: a ton of stuff that she's in. Because to me,
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: she's still just Olivia Munn. She's always, like, herself off the.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 7: dancing around being a dork or whatever she's doing that
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 7: day because she that's again that's like the.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: Biggest selling point for her that's what made her into who.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 7: She is is that she's she's geek acceptable you know
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 7: she she fits in just fine with the rest of
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 7: us geek so yeah which.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: Is smart again in a sense that in my i'm
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: saying it over and over but my point of view
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: is always going to be about the future now i
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: feel like the people involved now care yeah i feel
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: like and the ones that might not care, I think can't,
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: and I don't mean this to sound shitty, but might
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: financially care. Like going forward, Hugh Jackman probably don't give
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: a fuck. But if you go, hey, look, we just
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: need you for 10 minutes to do this one scene,
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: he'll probably be like, cool, yeah, I'll step in for
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: 10 minutes. If Fassbender needs to come in for 10,
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: 15 minutes to do Simon's Magneto, I don't think it's
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: going to be impossible to get them back for small stuff.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: I don't think you're going to see them for whole movies.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: But all the kids, I say kids, they're all like
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: young 20s, but the new younger cast I think they're
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: all down to do this for a minute. Well, that's
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: what you were saying. Professor X seems pretty down to
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: do this for a while.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 7: You were saying, I wonder what they're going to do
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 7: with this. It's like, I think there's easily another trilogy
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 7: coming just because they bothered to set up all these
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 7: new kids. And the kids are also.
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: all really well-known characters, too. It's not like they were weird,
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: awful shoot-wins that hardly... Sophie Turner murdered it. Storm and Cyclops.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: Murdered it as Jean Grey. I loved her as Jean Grey.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: I wasn't sure what to think in the beginning. I
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: was like, wait, is this supposed to be Jean Grey?
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: But yeah, she's pretty damn cool. The Alexander ship. Again,
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: freaking cute. She's Storm. Doesn't have much to do, but
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: I'm like, just seeing how.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 7: Great she is when she's got presence on screen and
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 7: the little bit of time that she has to do
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 7: what she does. And on top of that, of everything
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 7: I've seen, there's tons of marketing going on right now,
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 7: as I'm sure we all know.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: She's become the face of it. I've seen her do tons.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: She did the intro before the movie. Yeah, I got
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: that too. She did that.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 7: I've seen her do a walkthrough behind the scenes with
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 7: something on one channel. I've seen three different things that
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 7: I'm not even trying to see. I just happened to
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 7: see three different things. They all were featuring her.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: Have you seen the party blooper? There was some little
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: thing the cast did. They're standing in the hallway before Cerebro.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: It's the whole young cast and they did some little
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: funny thing where they play some dubstep and they're all
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: kind of standing. And just as it hits, they all
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: start dancing. It's only like a 10-second clip. But you
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: see them having fun and stuff. They're already into it.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: You can tell they're excited about it. I think that, again,
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: going back to how I feel like, in my head,
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: this movie is called The Promise. Psylocke, I was disappointed
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: in the movie that she wasn't talking more, only in
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: the sense that They were just such placemats. Like, here's Apocalypse,
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: and here's the four powerful people around him. And at first,
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: I was getting bugged with that. I was like, you're
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: punking out Psylocke. But then when it ended, I was like, okay, look.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: We saw her. We saw that she can kill it.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: So now you have this future trilogy to flesh her out.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: That's cool that she slipped away then, because we know
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: she's coming back. And you will establish her the way
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: you want later. We don't have room in this movie
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: to do it. We saw that painfully out of all
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: these people. As crammed as it already was, I don't
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: need exposition on her. I don't need exposition on Storm.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: In the end, she came around, and we know we're
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: going to get it later. We're going to get it later.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: But she just, man, back in the day when we
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: used to like fantasy cast movies, I used to, again,
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: just like 20 years ago, though, I used to say
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: Angela Bassett as Storm. I was like, I want Angela
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: Bassett with the shaved head and the mohawk. This girl,
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: when she was doing the little opening thing before the
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: movie started, the Storm actress- I even kind of thought,
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: she's kind of got a bit of an Angela Bassett.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: Her cheekbones, I was like, no, she looks great as Storm.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: You're going to be... The point, again, is that even
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: the things I didn't like in this movie, I was
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: okay with because it was almost like there was this filter.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: Like your gold rush. You got your pan with the
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: dirt and gold. It's like... all the dirt fell out.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: By the end of the movie, you had nothing but
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: gold in the pan. You're like, oh my gosh, look
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: at all these gold nuggets for the next movie. I
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: think that's why I was so happy with it. I'm
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: sure that if the future was in question, I might
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: be more critical like, oh, you bitched out Apocalypse. Oh, Magneto.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: If it was X-Men 3, you'd be like, fuck this franchise.
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: But we don't have reason to do that here. I
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: was just getting excited, Tom. Even to the point where
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: with Wolverine running off into the woods, I've already kind
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: of plugged that. I think that was also a reminder
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: that his next movie is going to be more violent
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: to kind of give you a taste of that. But
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: him running off to the woods but still having that
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: moment with Jane, which was great. But him running off
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: to the snow makes me wonder if If you want him,
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: you can still cameo him. But as far as the
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: 90s cast, since you can't, Wolverine has to be a
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: part of that. Especially if Dark Phoenix can be there.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: But I wouldn't mind if as a placeholder, in addition
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: to him coming in for cameos, do X-23. With the
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: sinister Essex guy at the end getting the vials, how
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: awesome would it be to get a young girl being X-23,
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: and then when Wolverine cameos, they can even have awesome
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: play with each other. I feel like that is... I
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: have no problem with you substituting X-23 in that 90s cast.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 8: If.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: I kind of.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: Can be optimistic that when the dark Phoenix stuff is
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: hitting the fan, that you can get Hugh to come
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: back for that movie, at least for that movie. I
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: don't think that forever. I will gladly take an X
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: 23 on screen. And I think that's an awesome thing
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: to be excited about the X 23. She's awesome. Like she's,
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: I would argue is like, you know, it's probably like
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: how like spider Gwen is right now. She's an awesome female. Yeah.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: You know, superhero. We need those. Get her on screen.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: And finally, they're being appreciated. So it's like, it would
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: be really cool. to find the perfect casting for that
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: and just bring somebody in. And you just say, you know,
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: like you said earlier, like it's a new timeline. Some
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: things can be different. Well, how about in this timeline,
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: instead of like Logan being that, that weapon X person
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: at such a focal point with X-Men, it's X-23. What
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: if these experiments happen to a young girl who turns into,
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: you know, X-23 and she's the one that they find.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: And she's the one that's kind of like the powerhouse
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: that everyone's worried about and stuff.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: What if X-23 and Jean Grey?
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: Anyway, sidebar. It's a new world. You can do that
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: kind of stuff. If not, there will be plenty of
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: fan fiction after they do that for you. I'm sure.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: Plenty of fan fiction and fan art. But yeah, I
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: was trying to think of... Well, that's the thing.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 7: Of all the characters, of which there are many, and
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 7: I guess I was going to pose that question because
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 7: we've done this at least three times lately. And every
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 7: time it's not us talking about a superhero, every time
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 7: it's a multitude of super, even in the one that's
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 7: only supposed to be about two, they work in a
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 7: third and promise of six others.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: So it's like, I'm like, is it just overkill? Like,
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: are we purposefully writing these movies because we want to
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: throw so much at the wall now because it's sort
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: of popular and like, we'll bring in, you know, kids
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: from the mall that maybe didn't care about it, but
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: they saw this shirt that had this character on it. And, Like,
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: are we bringing in normal people by just throwing a
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: ton of characters at the screen and being like, here,
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: here's all these things you like. Yeah, and hopefully you
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: notice something. Or, I mean, is it just that we're
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: writing bigger stories? Like, I think, again. I think it's
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: writing bigger stories. I think that's what it is. That's
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: why I feel like I'm. Or it's a little of both,
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: we'll say. I think, you know, I was just, maybe
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: because I kind of tuned out X-Men. Kind of go
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: back to those first three. That third one was so
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: bad to me. that I watched first class and I
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: watched days of future past. I'm watching both probably three
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: or four times each, but my heart wasn't in it
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: as much as like the vendor stuff is now. So
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: I think maybe because I wasn't, know really mentally you
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: know being so obsessed with it i didn't see it
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: leading to this and maybe that maybe i'm just a
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: slow guy that didn't really realize it till i was
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: in the movie seeing it right now going wait is
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: all this leading to the 90s x-men like all this
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: time was it leading to the 90s x-men and i
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: didn't see that because again that's my favorite part and
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: i'm just like wow you you guys... I don't know
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: to say that it will bring regular people to the movie,
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: but I think it will do a lot better than
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: the way they've been writing. In a sense, I don't
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: think it's the arguments that the Marvel Universe makes where
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: it's like, stay more faithful to the comic and you
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: get better results. But I do think that even millennials,
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: even probably more so millennials, like when they think of X-Men,
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: it's probably more that 90s era of X-Men. I think
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: first class, like I said, was.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 7: They grew up really young watching those reruns of like
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 7: every day after school.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: Fox Kids was playing that. I feel like now you are,
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: you know, just by time, you know, just by how
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: it's only like 16, 17, you know, 16, 26 years
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: ago now, I think It will be more fresh in
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: the minds of younger people. I know it'll help in
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: that regard. But I don't know. I don't know necessarily
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: that you've had six X-Men movies. Now, if you can't
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: get the average Joe off the street to come see
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: an X-Men movie, I just think they're not going to now.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: So I think now is when you double down on
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: your comic readers and your light familiarity kind of people. Like, yeah,
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: I haven't read an X-Men comic, but I know who
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: these people are. I visually recognize them and They're fine.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 7: I think we're getting to that point because before we
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 7: sat down, I looked just to see what news was
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 7: on this and more or less what the box office was.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: It did take number one. It beat out what looks
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: like that god-awful freaking Alice in Wonderland. It's getting tanked.
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: Good God, that thing looks insufferable. I can't believe it happened.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: I barely made it through the first one.
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 8: Barely.
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: It made a fortune. It was one of the biggest movies.
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: The first one was? Yeah, the first movie. I think
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: even in this country it made a fortune.
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 7: I can barely finish it. But globally, it was one
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 7: of the most successful movies of all time. Like, it
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 7: literally is on.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: I think it's still on that top ten. It's up
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: there behind, you know, like, Titanic and Avengers. It's so
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: bizarre to me.
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 7: Yeah, it makes no sense to me. Because that one
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 7: looked bad. But, like, this one looks insufferable. So, I mean,
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 7: for me, it didn't surprise me that it did. But
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 7: it also, reading on, it's like, it's also... not near
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 7: as big an opening as.
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: Days of Future Past. So I think that's probably superhero fatigue.
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: I think we've already had two big superhero movies come
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: out recently. Yeah. Really recently. And hugely, I mean, well,
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: this is the big three.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: I would argue this is the big three. You know, like,
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: not that Batman and Superman was Justice League, but it's,
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: we know that's where it's going. It more or less is.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: So in essence, you had an origin story-ish Justice League.
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: You had another Avengers thing. And now you got X-Men.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, Fantastic Four happened earlier this year too,
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: but you know, it tanked also. I mean, you're getting all,
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: they're near the end of last year, but still, they're getting,
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 1: all the big ones have happened within like the last six,
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: seven months. So yeah, I can see where. I think
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: that's what you lost. I think us comic, me, I
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: was stoked. Like this has been the greatest year of
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: my life right now. But I think the average, if
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: you are not in, it would be the same way like,
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: if you just did it by genre, sci-fi. fantasy western
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: you know if if this year had five breakout westerns
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: there's a point where you go god another cowboy well
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: it is like yeah you can go to it for
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: novelty the first time or so you can be like
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: oh i'm not into westerns and then you'll see unforgiven
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: and go oh that's kind of different than i thought
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: a western would be and then so okay then you
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: go see the next one you're like oh that was
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: kind of but three or four down you're like all
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: right okay i've seen enough westerns so i'm sure normal
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: people have that response to like more freaking superheroes oh
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 1: my god and like so i think this weekend pulled
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: in a ton of comic book people, a few that
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: were on the fence and then everybody else went, whatever,
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: I'll watch it on video. So like, I think you're.
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 7: Getting to that point where it does make me wonder
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 7: how much they've roped people in that didn't used to
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 7: be interested in that. Is it going to be enough
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 7: that it, at the end of the year, Dr.
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: Strange is going to pull in regular people because he's
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: pretty far out in the loop of like not really mainstream.
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: Real curious to see how he does.
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: Because it looks like he got the budget to be visual,
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: which like I said, is pretty much what his comic is.
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: Like his comics always gets like the crazy artists that
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: just do these great big, just acid trippy, you know,
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: kind of visual. So I think, you know, with that budget,
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: you know, and I hate saying this, I'm usually not
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: this kind of person, but I think, you know, hopefully
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: it looks good enough to be a good movie. And
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: I usually don't say those kinds of things, but hopefully
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: it looks good enough because that's what it's going to
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: weigh so much. Not that you don't have solid actors.
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: Your hero and villain and old girl playing his trainer,
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: you have solid acting in there. But when it's something
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: like that, the hinges on the visuals. You need the
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: visuals to bring it home. Yeah, the visuals are what's
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: going to bring it home. It's going to fall flat.
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: It's going to make him look stupid when he's up there.
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: They need to put a lot of money into it.
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: The whole Inception scene just looks bananas. Just like him
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: with sparklers on his hands. It's going to look really silly.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: So like if you don't have the budget to really
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: nail it. He's like throwing pop rocks and like disappearing.
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: Take that. All right. I was like, this is really
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: what we're going with? But in order to establish, you know,
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: and again to kind of tie it in with this, Netflix,
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: I assume you've probably somewhat heard of this, Netflix is
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 1: talking about there are three possibilities going forward could be
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 1: a ghostwriter, series, a, um, blade series. And that would
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: pull people in and, uh, I believe moon night. But
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: the thing is, is that they were all people that
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: kind of have to do with the mystic realm. And
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: it makes me wonder if this isn't them again, being
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: super smart and going, look, we're going to give you Dr. Strange.
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 1: And if they go all in on that movie and
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 1: go look how crazy and amazing the mystical world of
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 1: the Marvel universe, because we haven't seen this at all yet,
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 1: magic and stuff. We haven't seen it at all. And
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 1: it's huge in the universe. And you're going to get
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 1: a ton of it in Thanos. They have to introduce it.
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 1: But if they go all in and really go, look
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: how awesome the magical, spiritual, undead, demon-ish world is in
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: a Marvel universe, and then you get a solid... I
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 1: feel like maybe this is them opening the door for...
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: It's Ghost Rider. Did I say Ghost Rider?
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I was going to say you've got an uphill
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 7: battle with Ghost Rider because we've already had two movies
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 7: and they're ridiculous.
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: But look how Daredevil took it back. That's what I
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 1: was just going to say.
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 7: I was like, but I would have written off Daredevil
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 7: after that first movie. So I'm like, there's a possibility
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 7: you can turn it around if you do it well.
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 1: But that one is almost like a punchline at this point.
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: Like anything Nick Cage related, it's kind of a punchline.
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 1: So like, it's possible. I think of the three, and
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: not enough people know Moon Knight at all. Blade is
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 1: so recognizable because of Wesley Snipes.
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 2: It's easy to do.
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: And horror is huge now. So it's got so much crawl.
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's 75% horror.
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 7: And then like a little superhero ish, but like, it's
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 7: mostly like.
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: Those old ones were mostly just killing vampire movies. So
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: I'm like, that really plays more to horror fans, which
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 1: horror is broke through more than it ever has in
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: the last 10 years or so. It's way more mainstream
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 1: than it would have ever been even when those movies
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 1: were popular. So I'm like, That could work. If you
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: cast the right guy, that could work. The Moon Knight
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: one is the one where I'm like, you're going to
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 1: have to... I would do that one last. You got
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: to explain a lot because people do not know who
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: that character is. The thing with Ghost Rider is it
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: has such a huge fan base. It's hard to do
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: in a movie because it's silly. It's fun to illustrate
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 1: a guy on a motorcycle with super long chains and
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 1: a skull on fire. That's fun in a comic book,
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: but how are you going to make that look realistic
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: on screen? Sometimes you got to call it on those
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: because I've said that and maybe they will... changed my
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 1: mind somewhere down the line in the justice league world
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: but i'm like i don't know how you film green
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: lantern and not make it look silly yeah and i
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: had a stack of freaking green lantern comics i thought
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: he was cool he was one of the few dc
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 1: guys i got behind batman and green lantern and like
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 1: in the comics it's fun you draw these crazy things
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: and he makes On screen, it just looks silly. And
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 1: I'm just like, and I don't know. He does the
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 1: big baseballs mitts to catch somebody. You're going to be like, what?
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 1: And even on the old Super Friends stuff, that looks
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 1: fun animated. When you CG it, it's going to look ridiculous.
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 1: So it's like, and we saw that movie, Tank, for
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 1: a lot of reasons. But I think that's part of it.
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: I think people went in and went, wait, what? This
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 1: is silly looking. I think that's part of it.
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 7: Some things don't translate well. Or certainly don't translate easily.
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 7: So it's like that's kind of the Ghost Rider thing too.
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 1: Like it'll look cool on a t-shirt or a black
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 1: velvet poster. I definitely think they start off with Blade.
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 1: I would say Blade has to be the first one.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 1: The door's already open for that to work. I think
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: everyone wants, I shouldn't say everyone, I think Blade fans
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 1: would be more than happy to get a Blade Netflix series.
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 1: I kind of thought he was coming back. Once he
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: got out of financial problems, I was like, the franchise
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 1: has still got fans. I'm like, he should have just
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 1: been like, I still look pretty damn good. He barely
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: looks like he's aged. I'm like, he should have just
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 1: come back and been like... Even if it wasn't Netflix,
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 1: I expected a straight-to-DVD movie because he needed cash. But again,
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 1: I think that casting is part, but we've got a
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 1: lot of really good young black actors right now, so
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 1: they would be really easy to cast. Man, the casting
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: for Black Panthers. That's what I'm saying.
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 2: Phenomenal.
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 1: That movie... I'm so optimistic for a Black Panther movie.
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 1: I think they're really, really good. Again, because I feel
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 1: like I've been saying it over and over, look up
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: the cast for the next Thor movie. Look up the
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: cast of the Doctor Strange movie. Look up the cast
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 1: of the Black Panther movie. You cannot say that at
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 1: least the industry does not respect comic book movies now.
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 1: They are fucking shelling out the money for actors.
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 8: It is money.
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 1: These aren't big people.
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 6: They are.
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 7: both it's like it's i it's being taken seriously enough
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 7: i can actually show up and give a real performance
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 7: i don't have to show up and ham it up
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 7: because you can michael fast bender it you can show
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 7: up and give a good dramatic performance in.
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 1: The middle of a movie where you're floating around with magnets.
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 1: You know, I'm like, it seems like that should be
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 1: ridiculous that those two go together, but there's a couple
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 1: of really heavy scenes with him in the beginning. And
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 1: then he's flying around with magnets. So it's like, I'm like,
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 1: that shows.
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 7: That it can be done from the acting standpoint. At
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 7: the same time, they're like, it's a huge paycheck now.
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 7: And it will allow.
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 1: Me to do three little indie movies that I'm really
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 1: interested in. Right. Even if you're only half interested in
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: the genre, uh, Like, they know, like, this will bank
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 1: it so that I can do whatever I want to do,
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 1: maybe forever. It's almost just, you know, it's smart for
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 1: their career. It's almost like the Pellegrin of acting. It's like,
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 1: I'm going to do these movies. get the money I
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: need to get by. And now I'm going to do
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 1: all these things that I'm like really interested in off
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 1: to the side. That's the huge Jackman way. Think about
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 1: all the other weird stuff he's turned up in. Which
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 1: he wouldn't have been able to do if it wasn't.
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: There's no way. But you know, he's been able to
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 1: do casually because of the X-Men movies. The financial freedom
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 1: to be able to go, I want to make a
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 1: romantic comedy. And we all went, no, don't.
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 7: But yeah, I mean, he does that kind of thing.
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 7: And a lot of these actors do that where they're
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 7: just like, one for you guys, and three indie movies
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 7: that most people don't see for me because these are,
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 7: you know, and I like those movies usually. I'm usually
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 7: the one seeking those kind of movies out, so.
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 1: I fall on both sides of the fence, but I
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: kind of like that. Like, I like that it's allowing
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 1: people to turn in good performances in a superhero movie
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 1: and still be able to financially support themselves to the
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 1: point that they have artistic freedom to do whatever the
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 1: hell they want. Right, because it's like, you know, if
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 1: this were still the 90s, we'd have, like, John Leguzmo
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 1: as Magneto or something, you know, you'd have like people
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 1: that aren't terrible actors, but you know, it's like people
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 1: that you're not expecting the odd wow you. And now
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 1: we have people that can wow you like, you know,
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 1: I've definitely had emotional moments, you know, with the Marvel
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 1: movies and stuff like, yeah, I mean, they're, they're doing it.
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: They're bringing it home. Um, I would also mention, you know, again,
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 1: me going back to the whole promise, um, I think that, again,
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: they were setting the plot line with Quicksilver and Magneto.
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 1: The fact that he didn't seal the deal and go,
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 1: you're my dad! He didn't yell it out or something.
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 1: I was just going to get to that, because I
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 1: was like, we've gone through this entire discussion and haven't
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 1: mentioned Quicksilver, who I feel like kind of steals the movie.
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 1: He's so great. I love Evan Peters. He's killing it.
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 1: He brings so... Again, with the whole... You know, you
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 1: called him the Scooby gang. He fits right in with that.
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 1: Like all of them, they all play off each other.
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 8: Great.
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 1: I felt like they had great chemistry already. Snarky level.
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 7: Like he, but I thought it was maybe going to
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 7: go too far that first time. Cause we had him
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 7: just a little bit and I was like, is he
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 7: going to get annoying real quick? And like in this one,
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 7: he's got more screen. He kind of steps up like
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 7: of all the younger actors. he's the, and not that
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 7: they're really much different. That's what they were pointing out.
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 7: They're like, there's like, you know, Jennifer.
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 1: Lawrence is sitting in there talking about the old war stories,
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 1: me and the rest of the young kids. And like,
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 1: in actuality, there's six years between her and Jean Grey.
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 8: Wow.
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 1: So it's like, it's not really like for the older cast.
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 1: I mean, I guess the, I'm not always not much
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 1: older than them. I don't think at least Fassbender is
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 1: a little bit older. Well, this is what I think
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 1: is interesting though, but that part, um, or something that
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 1: I don't want to say was overlooked. I can't say
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 1: it's fact, but, I've heard a lot of, some complaints,
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 1: you know, about how quickly Magneto kind of becomes a
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 1: good guy again at the end. Like with no, no,
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 1: no see, no nothing. You know, he's literally in this
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 1: position to destroy the earth and is doing it, is
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 1: killing millions of people, you know, and just out of
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 1: nowhere next, you know, he's down there attacking Apocalypse.
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 7: It doesn't even show him like changing his mind or
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 7: struggling with it.
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 1: But I would make two points. One, I think the
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 1: comic argument would be that Up until... Magneto's main thing
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 1: is mutants over humans. Period. If you ever want to
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 1: question what Magneto's... What side of the line he would
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 1: be on something, it would be which one is better
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 1: for mutants. Period. Which is why he had no problem
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 1: destroying the world for Apocalypse. Especially in the moment of
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 1: rage and emotion, all this stuff he had going. I
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 1: think that was why Apocalypse didn't even really... Give him
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 1: a new power. He was like, no, you're good. I
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 1: got you. You're in the right place. But up until
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 1: that point in the movie, Apocalypse hadn't hurt a mutant.
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 1: And that's when... Mystique looking like Psylocke is getting choked,
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 1: that's when I think things... Because not only is it
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 1: a mutant, it's a mutant he has a close tie to.
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 1: At that point, it already snapped Quicksilver's leg. Yes, and
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 1: in addition, that's what made me wonder if maybe somewhere
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 1: in Magneto's head, he does kind of... He's doing the
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 1: math and going... Like, he can feel it. Like, is that...
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 1: About how many years ago did you say him? Like,
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 1: so yeah, maybe... And they already had that time in
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 1: Elevator before. If he's a smart guy, he might... Which
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 1: he seems like he is. At that point.
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 1: Like he knows the kind of guy he used to be.
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 1: And it seems like he got away from that in
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 1: these years, but like, I'm assuming he remembers the kind
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 1: of things he used to do. That can't be the
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 1: only time, especially since we know he had at least
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 1: another one running around out there. Not, maybe not in
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 1: this timeline. They really don't address the younger sister. They
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 1: mentioned that online. She was in the first movie and
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 1: then they just, she's all nowhere to be found in
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 1: this one. Well, and it was interesting how they, it,
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 1: I don't, I would have to at least say the
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 1: name Scarlet Witch. I'm not saying the little girl doing
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 1: all the stuff with the animals was Scarlet Witch, but
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 1: you did at least hint that, you know, yeah, his
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 1: offspring is usually powerful in their brains. So it was
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 1: almost like a slight nod to a Scarlet Witch thing there.
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 1: But no, I feel like, you know, again, with the
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 1: whole promise thing, like one in the future, you definitely
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 1: got that. You got the fact that at some point
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 1: Quicksilver is going to want to approach his dad and
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 1: have that you're my father moment. again, just more, all
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 1: this stuff that it's almost like they're going, you know,
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 1: as they're closing the door on the past going, Oh
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 1: my God, like we got all this stuff for you
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 1: in the future. Please understand. We couldn't wrap this up
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 1: with a bow tie in one movie very eloquently, but
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 1: I feel like they put more emphasis on the future. Like, yes,
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 1: this movie in itself, not going to be the greatest movie, but,
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 1: But again, I feel like the best metaphor is what
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 1: I said with the pan of dirt and gold. It's like,
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 1: but by the end, it's just gold in the tray.
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 7: It's knocking down the dominoes to the big impressive display
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 7: down the line.
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 1: I was out loud saying it in the theater. I
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 1: was like, I'm so stoked for the next movie. I
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 1: was like, they are completely setting up my favorite era. Dude,
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 1: shut up. Oh, no one got that stinger. In my theater,
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 1: no one got that stinger. They waited for it, and
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 1: it's like people sat there in denial as if there
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 1: was going to be another one. It was a weird
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 1: kind of getting up, and a lot of people were
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 1: still sitting there like, it's Mr. Sinister. You can get
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 1: up and go now. We're setting up Mr. Sinister.
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 7: Again, I think Quicksilver kind of proved himself in this
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 7: one before we totally get away from him.
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 1: He definitely... stepped up and became, again, I feel like he's.
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 7: One of the only ones that had enough screen time
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 7: and presence in that screen time that you do see like, oh,
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 7: he does kind of need to be an integral part
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 7: of this thing. He needs to be important in this,
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 7: in this little team that's coming together. And he's, at
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 7: least at that point, he kind of feels like a leader.
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 7: He's definitely over the other little kid versions, but.
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 1: The one thing I want to do, at least address,
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 1: and I had seen it mentioned online. I try not
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 1: to pay too much attention, but I wanted to see
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 1: at least what people were questioning. They do mention the
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 1: age thing, and it didn't bother me as much with
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 1: the other old cast members. But I'm like, Quicksilver was
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 1: supposed to be relatively young. So 10 years go by.
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 1: I think they're going to play up a metabolism thing
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 1: or something. There's something with the speed. He doesn't have
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 1: a speed force, but there's something with the speed in him.
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 1: I'm thinking that they're just going to be like, it
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 1: keeps them a bit younger. I mean, that's kind of
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 1: what I was thinking, but I'm like, are we playing
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 1: that with everybody?
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 7: Because it is funny. They do mention how pretty much
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 7: nobody is aged. And this is a 20-year span now
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 7: from the 60s to the 80s. And I'm like, they
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 7: all still look like they did five years ago when
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 7: they made that first movie.
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 1: I feel like they wanted Fassbender to look older just
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 1: by giving him scruff. It's like, just don't shave as much.
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 1: And it's like, you're going to make him look older.
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 1: I mean, he at least has age on him, so,
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 1: you know, a little bit more than the other two.
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 1: He's easier to hold his look in one. Which is fine,
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 1: because even in the comic, Magneto has white hair.
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 1: Young people forget. Like, under the helmet, it's all white.
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 5: It's all white.
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 1: He's an old dude. He can pull it off a
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 1: little bit, but, like, again, yeah, like, McAvoy still looks
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 1: really freaking young.
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 1: Jennifer Lawrence just looks like Jennifer Lawrence, because we all
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 1: see her all the time. But then I was like, L.
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 8: Beast.
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 1: Can I just call out the purple vinyl outfit we
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 1: put her in? Why did we.
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 6: Look.
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 1: I'm not trying to be all SJW, but man, they
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 1: found a way to show her boobs right off the bat.
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 1: When she goes in that club and like the purple
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 1: tight thing, the camera even starts right there and the
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 1: cleat even pans up. We know what sells tickets for, stupid.
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 1: She didn't, again, I don't know what's her acting quotas
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 1: or her in real life, but she looked put out.
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 1: I remember like, you know, kind of thing. It's like
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 1: her expression right now looks like she's going, I got
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 1: my tits out. Why are my tits out in this
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 1: X-Men movie? My tits are so out right now. Again,
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 1: she's probably... I mean, she's past that point. She doesn't
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 1: have to do that. She had to do that when
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 1: she was on the Bill Ingalls show or whatever the
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 1: hell that was. On the same thing. I'm surprised they
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 1: didn't deal with Sophie. But now she doesn't have to
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 1: do that. Sophie Turner was very covered up and treated
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 1: very respectfully. Which, I mean, again, they're working it into
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 1: the story. I was so glad... to see rose burn
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 1: come back and we didn't see her in her underwear
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 1: for no good right which i mean i had that
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 1: recently i was listening to a show where they specifically
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 1: pointed out that's the point in the first class movie
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 1: where they're like Okay, whatever. The fact that she just
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 1: leaves the house for the day and also happens to
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 1: be wearing perfectly matching and kind of like Playboy Bunny
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 1: caliber of underwear to go in and just immediately drop
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 1: your clothes and be like, yep, look at me. I'm like, well,
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 1: she was Rose Byrne. But I like that. It is
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 1: weird that they.
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 7: That's another one of those I feel like they gave
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 7: her nothing to do.
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 1: I like that she was back, but... I don't know
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 1: if it was just the memory wipe that did it,
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 1: but I feel like even in this, she's there all
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 1: the time. She's in every scene, but she really has
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 1: nothing to do. Well, and the problem is that from
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 1: what I remember, because again, I only watched a couple times,
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 1: but she had her memories back in the last movie.
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 1: I thought in Days of Future Past, she had some
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 1: of the memories back about the Cuban stuff. Because they
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 1: made it sound like, oh, she doesn't remember anything until
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 1: way back. And I was like, wait, I thought in
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 1: Days of Future Past, she... Still knew some stuff.
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 7: I'm going to have to re-watch it, which I just...
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 7: I'm going to be watching it, maybe today, because I
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 7: saw they just put out the Rogue cut.
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 1: Did you know this?
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 7: No, is there a director's cut kind of a thing? Yeah,
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 7: because they shot all that extra stuff with Rogue. That's
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 7: why she's like second.
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 1: Build or whatever, if you remember. She's built way higher
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 1: up than everybody else in the movie. Was she in
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 1: it that much more? I'm going to find out. I
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 1: guess we all are. Oh, cool. Yeah, I'll check that out.
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 7: Yeah, it just came out on Blu-ray DVD, so it's
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 7: like I guess we'll see how much extra footage they shot.
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 1: And it does have both options, so you don't have
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 1: to be committed. Because I was like, I don't know
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 1: if I want to watch this way forever. What if
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 1: it sucks? So you've got, you know, theatrical version and
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 1: this new rogue cut that also has the other alternate
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 1: stuff that they shot with her that I'm still not
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 1: sure why they took. I'm going to have to read
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 1: into the whole backstory on it because it's another one
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 1: of those things. I'm curious about the backstory on her
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 1: too because with the way she was treated in the movies,
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 1: I don't know if, what's her name? Jonah Paquin? Anna Paquin.
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 1: Anna Paquin. Anna Paquin. I don't know if it was
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 1: like she didn't want to do the movies, so she
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 1: was getting rode out. But going back to that third
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 1: movie where she didn't want her powers and she got
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 1: them removed the whole time, I'm just like, What is
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 1: going on with Rogue? They don't know what to do
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 1: with Rogue? Does she not want to be Rogue? What
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 1: is it wrong? What's going on with Rogue? You can't
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 1: get Rogue right at all. Maybe it's different in the comics.
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 1: Within the context of the movies, she has the worst
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 1: mutant powers ever. Basically, it's, I don't really have any
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 1: mutant powers of my own, but I will kill anyone
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 1: I touch. And again, that is why they ruin it.
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 1: So again, maybe, again with me being optimistic now about X-Men,
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 1: that's what really changed. In the movie, if I could
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 1: give anyone out there, anyone on the fence about seeing
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 1: this movie.
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 1: If you love X-Men or just really like X-Men and
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 1: have been kind of like, you know, underwhelmed with the
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 1: movies or anything like that, I would highly, highly, highly
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 1: recommend going to see this movie just because, again, of
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 1: what I think it's showing you they want to do now.
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 1: And with Rogue, what ruined Rogue in the past, other
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 1: than making her young and all that kind of weird stuff,
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 1: is that she has a darker line where she starts
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 1: off as a bad guy. She's kicking it with Magneto
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 1: and she touches, I forget who, Captain Marvel, Mr. Marvel.
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 1: She touches someone so long, she kills them and permanently
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 1: takes their power. In essence, what they made Apocalypse in
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 1: this movie, she could do, she could just touch someone
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 1: and when they're dead, she absorbs their power. So that's
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 1: why in the comics, She can fly and she's super
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 1: strong because the person she absorbed, that's what they had.
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 1: But at the same time, that's what broke her and
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 1: made her not do it anymore. She's like, I'm not
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 1: doing that anymore. And that's what made it interesting with
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 1: her and Gambit is Gambit's the dude that can kind
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 1: of touch her. She's a girl that still wants a
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 1: boyfriend and all that, but she can't touch people. And
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 1: Gambit's the dude that's like, you can touch me, Mona me.
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 1: That was the whole thing with them is like, I'll
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 1: be your boyfriend. That part was really interesting. But again,
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 1: it just made for the worst superhero ever.
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 7: So I like the fact that like she wants to
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 7: be a normal teenager and like I want to have
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 7: a boyfriend.
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 1: I want to be around people. But why do we
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 1: need that in a movie? It just seems like as
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 1: an editor, why? Because she didn't matter in the end.
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 1: And not that I even want to debate X3 because
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 1: the whole movie was bad. But why even put those
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 1: scenes in of going, oh, this is why she's not here.
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 1: Let's give you 20 minutes of why she's not here.
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 1: Are we talking X3 or the.
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 2: X3.
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 1: I was going to say X3. I don't know why
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 1: she's not there too. Yeah, I want to see it
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 1: and see what... But I would argue maybe then, you know,
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 1: if they chose to cut her out, maybe they want
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 1: you to forget her so that when we reintroduce her... Again,
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 1: if you do a trilogy going forward with these next ones...
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 1: Maybe so. And you take your time and have Dark
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 1: Phoenix be the overarching story, you could have a movie
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 1: showing Rogue as a bad person... Killing someone, absorbing their power,
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 1: having that, oh my gosh, what am I doing, and
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 1: joining the X-Men. You can do that. And it's also
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 1: obvious that you're not the only one that hates X3. Granted, overall,
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 1: most people hate it. But I think it's so blatantly
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 1: obvious how much Bryan Singer, I mean, the bitterness of
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 1: that Jedi scene. I'm just like. Dude, you already totally
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 1: wiped out his movie in your last timeline. That, to me,
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 1: was the big F you. There's the middle finger to Brian's...
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 1: What the fuck's that dude's name? The Scourge of Humanity
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 1: that directed that movie. Oh, God, I don't... I try
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 1: to forget that whole thing. Everything about it. But no,
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 1: everybody hated that movie so much, they hate the director
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 1: for doing it, so the fact that he already came
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 1: in and was like, okay, I made the first two.
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 7: Somehow it got handed over to you. You messed up
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 7: my movie. I came back in the, again, he didn't
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 7: even direct first class. So the first movie back in,
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 7: he goes out of his way to create the plot.
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 1: Granted, it was the comic too, but he came in
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 1: specifically on the movie that wiped out that third movie
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 1: in the continuity. So I'm like, that's the big F you. Like,
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 1: that's already, like, you've done it. You've nailed it. You've
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 1: stuck the landing. And he did it classy, though. I
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 1: would say he did it classy, because going back to
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 1: what I was trying to hint at earlier. No, he
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 1: did it classy last time. This time was just like, okay,
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 1: you're beating the dead.
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 7: I mean, the Jedi scene of them talking about how, well,
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 7: the third movie is always the worst.
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah. Oh, no.
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was great. I'm like, okay. Well, in fact,
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 1: they took that shot at themselves for how old the
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 1: actors are. Like when Cyclops is in the classroom and
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 1: he's blinking and the guy's like, dude, you're looking at
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 1: my girl and he's like, girl, you look old enough
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 1: to be her dad. I'm like, wow, you were taking
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 1: all kinds of shots at the rest of these kids
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 1: in high school. And again, that's where I feel like
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 1: this is putting the past in the past. It's going,
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 1: look guys, we had an approach to X-Men that may
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 1: have been stuck with for too long. We get it now.
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying like, They learned on their own. If
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 1: nothing else, they saw Marvel and they're like, we got
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 1: to change our fucking philosophy on this. We can't keep
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 1: hammering in these old actors playing their parts and making
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 1: the movies revolve around them. We got to get a
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 1: staff that can go 10, 15 years, plot lines that
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 1: go 10, 15 years. We have to know what we're
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 1: doing before the movies come out. I think they at
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 1: least went from first class on, like they had a
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 1: basic overview of It may have gotten handed awful, but
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 1: I think since it got back to Bryan Singer, they're
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 1: just like, yeah, that's... Brett Ratner, for fuck's sake. I
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 1: told you it was in there. Scourge of humanity, Brett Ratner.
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 1: So also, again, on Bryan Singer then, I would say... Well,
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 1: I would bring up again, back during the first X-Men movies,
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 1: I've read an interview... Where he was going on and
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 1: on and on about how Dark Phoenix is his favorite
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 1: X-Men saga, period. And that's what he wanted to do
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 1: with those first three. He's like, that was my favorite saga.
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 1: And having seen how the third one tanked and how
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 1: they ruined it, I think that, you know, again, this
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 1: is all kind of like in retrospect now, in hindsight,
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 1: I think when he was writing First Class and then
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 1: hopped on board for Days of Future Past, it was like,
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 1: let's clean the slate.
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 1: But we need people to get excited again, so let's
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 1: make good movies that retcon, which is what comics always
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 1: do all the time. He retconned. It's our first retcon
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 1: on screen. He retconned to X-Men. He found a legit way.
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 1: And we're getting our new day one in the next movie.
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 1: It wasn't like a redo. We're going to do this
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 1: all different now. It wasn't a hard redo. It was like, no,
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 1: it happened. This little loophole is going to fix all
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 1: these problems that you and I both had. Cherry picked
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 1: plots out of the X-Men mythos to establish this do-over.
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 1: And like I said, I'm on board now. And I wasn't.
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 1: Before this movie, I thought I was going to go in,
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 1: see a movie that was... pretty but not very good
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 1: it was pretty and fun i wouldn't say it's still
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 1: good but it was fun and i i noticed that
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 1: can feel like opposite still to go well it wasn't
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 1: good it was fun it's like you know what is
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 1: it a bad b movie it's like i'm not even
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 1: saying that i just think that i just i don't
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 1: know any other word and to say that like it
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 1: feels like a promise for the future it feels like
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 1: these kind of interactions these this chemistry that these characters
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 1: already have you know these these new looks, it's just,
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 1: it's so exciting. I feel like this was the origin
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 1: story for the X-Men. Because every origin movie is usually
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 1: pretty meh. And so this was a meh movie, but
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 1: it's the origin movie. And now you know. In the
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 1: next one it's on. It's laying the groundwork. That we
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 1: need it laid. So we can get rolling with everything
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 1: that the fans want. And that I'm assuming Singer. Or
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 1: whoever he's going to. If he's going to keep doing it.
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 1: I don't know. But I think it's where they at
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 1: least want the road map to go. I know that
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 1: he's pretty much still. He wants to do it all. Well,
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 1: he's not confirmed to direct the next one, but somehow
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 1: he was able to confirm that the next one is
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 1: in the 90s.
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 1: Which seems weird to me. How do you know it's
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 1: in the 90s if you're not fucking involved? I'm sure
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 1: he's at least going to be producer or writer or something.
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 6: On all of these.
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 1: I can't imagine that with... I bet that dude is
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 1: like walking with wood right now. Like he has to
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 1: be so excited that he's.
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 8: Going to get.
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 1: Let's leave that alone. He has his own issues in
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 1: that area. I've left that alone the whole episode. He's
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 1: going to do... the dark phoenix saga he wanted to
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 1: do originally and he's gonna do it now in an
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 1: environment that's so much more accepting and excited.
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 7: For it and technically he can do it like that
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 7: was the problem with that first movie is like they
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 7: didn't even know how to do the special effects for
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 7: the stuff they wanted to do the second one gets
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 7: a little better but like it wasn't really until we
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 7: get to that like post spider-man and even then they
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 7: had issues so it's like as you get to like
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 7: the avengers now like Finally, you can do pretty much
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 7: whatever you want to do. If you've got the budget
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 7: behind it, you can make it look pretty damn good.
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 7: So now that he gets a chance to do something that.
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 1: Big with that kind of budget behind it, it's going
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 1: to be pretty impressive. Or can be, at least. Here's
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 1: something I'm a little, again, as a geek, kind of
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 1: conflicted on. You know, again... being so satisfied with Marvel
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 1: movies and being so satisfied with what we've seen in Spider-Man,
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 1: even though it's not fair to say they nailed it
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 1: because he hasn't had his movie yet, but getting that 10,
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 1: 15 minutes, being so excited about that, there's a part
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 1: of me that, you know, always was like, you know,
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 1: I don't care about the X-Men when Marvel get it back.
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 1: And so I'm kind of on the fence now because
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, there was a sort of
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 1: oath made with this movie about going forward that I
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 1: kind of want to get, I want to give Bryan
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 1: Singer another chance now. I actually, I, Like, everything from
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 1: the past, I'm just like, no, I want to give
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 1: him a chance now. But at the same time, I'm
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 1: kind of conflicted because it's like, it's still in the
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 1: 40s on Rotten Tomato. And as you said, it's number one,
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 1: but it wasn't a strong number one. There is a
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 1: part of me that can see a future also where
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 1: the movie does not make the execs happy. And they
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 1: consider doing the Marvel route with the X-Men also and going, Marvel,
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 1: we'll finance it, but make it. And I wouldn't be
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 1: offended with that either because of the way they have
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 1: it set up. I'm like, I don't care if it's
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 1: Marvel or Singer, as long as it's only those. Just
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 1: don't bring in a new director that might try to
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 1: get things changed. That's what worries me. Singer or Marvel?
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 1: I can see them trying to hand it off if
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 1: they don't like where he goes with this next one
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 1: or so. But I can see, again, because the Marvel
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 1: Universe is making so much money, I wonder, this would
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 1: be a legal nightmare, what if Fox eventually goes, okay,
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 1: what if we approach them and be like, hey, do
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 1: you want to do a crossover? Do you guys want
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 1: to tie these together? Do you want to work? I'm like,
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 1: I think that would be a lawyer. Tricky. A multitude
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 1: of lawyers would have to be involved. I think it
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 1: would be Fox doing it because.
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 7: Fox would be the one looking at Marvel going, they
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 7: are writing the checks. They're getting whatever they want.
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 1: From what I'm seeing, that's how Spider-Man worked, which shocked me.
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. They're going to write the checks,
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 1: but Marvel's going to do the actual making.
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 7: Sony fell on hard times. Sony used to be the
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 7: biggest company in the world, and then they weren't. If
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 7: Fox hits a point where they're just like, You know,
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 7: we kind of could use some money. You know how
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 7: much money we can make if we just like, even
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 7: if they didn't totally sell it off to them, if
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 7: they just like allowed them to use it, some sort
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 7: of crossover, we get a cut of the profits. That's
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 7: a huge amount of money that they might be willing
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 7: to consider. It might, it might take this next movie
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 7: not doing well though. I mean, it might be one
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 7: of those kinds.
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 1: Of things, but I don't know. I'm scared at this
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 1: point a little in a sense that I don't want
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 1: neither to happen. Like I want, I want it to
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 1: go well. Right. I don't think it's going to make
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 1: enough money that they're going to call it a success
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 1: or be happy. I'm sure they won't lose money on it,
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 1: but maybe it's going to be that thing of like,
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 1: you didn't make a billion. And I can make that
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 1: argument because it's like, I liked Avengers a lot. I
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 1: love these Avenger movies, but if the movies didn't exist,
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 1: if we were back at a point where no comic
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 1: book movie was out and you asked me, what is
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 1: your favorite Individually, Spider-Man, what was your favorite comic book? X-Men.
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 1: I was an X-Men kid. So for me to fall
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 1: in love with Avengers so much from what they did
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 1: with the movies, I have the capacity to almost be
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 1: twice that if they can do it with the X-Men.
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 1: If you can nail the X-Men, which is why if
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 1: it goes back to Marvel, cool, they're going to do
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 1: it right. But if not, like I said, at this point,
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 1: I feel like brian singer in my head is almost
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 1: working for marvel i feel like you have their mentality
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 1: you get it you are starting to find that balance.
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 7: And he wants to stay true to what he grew
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 7: up loving so at least he's invested in it personally
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 7: even if the business deal falls on a different side
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 7: of the line i think he's personally so invested and
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 7: has been for 20 years now that like it's yeah
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 7: it's it's a big enough deal that i I would
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 7: hope he's going to want to have the best interest
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 7: of the story and the characters at heart.
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 1: Before worried about finances. Not that he needs to redeem
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 1: himself to anybody. I'm just some jack off. Artistically speaking.
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 1: In Indiana. Personally, I don't know anything about him. I
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 1: feel like he would absolutely redeem himself if he came
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 1: in and did this and be like, no, we get it.
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 1: It was the times. In the 90s, you couldn't do
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 1: this with comic books. Now you can. Now you have
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 1: so many more resources. It'd be like, as an artist,
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 1: if you had paper and chalk, and now someone over
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 1: here is like, look at oil paints. Look at all
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 1: these colors. You can use colors. And I feel like
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 1: that's what it is now. He's like, oh my gosh,
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 1: all the things I can do now, and all the
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 1: freedoms he will be given now, and all the allowances
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 1: he will be given now, that I'm sure he had
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 1: to pull teeth to get that first X-Men movie done.
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 2: It's a whole new.
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 1: World compared to that first X-Men. I mean, literally in
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 1: the artistic, in the movie and all.
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 7: Of it, it looks like it's just a different world,
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 7: different audience than you would have ever found.
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 1: Different era, different technology. Yeah. I mean, just. It's going
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 1: to be interesting to see where we go. I'm excited.
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 1: Really excited. Optimistic. Side note. I did want to point
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 1: out possibly the most interesting and realistic scene involving Jennifer
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 1: Lawrence is where she meets the beast guy.
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  Speaker 7: What is his name nicholas howt or whatever however you
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  Speaker 7: say his last name only because again if you cross
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  Speaker 7: over into the real world knowing that they dated they
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  Speaker 7: met on that first movie they dated like on and
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  Speaker 7: off for like four years really but it's been over for.
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  Speaker 1: A while so that scene with them seems real genuine
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  Speaker 1: when he's like oh you're here didn't expect to see
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  Speaker 1: you here so i guess you're Like, it's so awkward.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm like, I feel like that wasn't acting. Well,
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  Speaker 1: Beast was really awkward in general to me. Yeah. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: he kind of is. Like, it works for him. But
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  Speaker 1: he did seem a little more like... disconnected from what
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  Speaker 1: was going on, then, like, especially, like, Days of Future
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  Speaker 1: Past is so tied together.
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  Speaker 6: Well, they made him.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like they made him extra dopey. Like, he's
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  Speaker 1: super smart.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But I feel like they kind of went, like, nerd
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  Speaker 1: route with him. Because, like, it seemed like... He's smart,
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  Speaker 1: but socially awkward. Even with it being the 80s.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Just even the way he dressed. It was like... you're
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  Speaker 1: dressed like a square. Well, you know what I mean?
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  Speaker 1: Like you, he always was a square, but I agree.
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  Speaker 1: He seems a little, he seemed like teacher's pet, like
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  Speaker 1: just the way he is with professor. They have some
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  Speaker 1: great back and forth though. Well, they always do like that.
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  Speaker 1: Like they're going down the hallway, you know, when they
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  Speaker 1: were like going into the FBI building and stuff and
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  Speaker 1: they had to, they had some great back and forth.
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  Speaker 1: Their relationship through these whole three movies is kind of
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  Speaker 1: like one of the things that carries it and makes it,
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  Speaker 1: fluid because we kind of jump so much from one
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  Speaker 1: to two to three that I'm like the few things
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  Speaker 1: that are so good that carry it is that little
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  Speaker 1: dynamic between the two of them. Obviously between Magneto and
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  Speaker 1: Professor X too but like that's way more black and
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  Speaker 1: white and you know huge drama. It's the fun stuff
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  Speaker 1: between those two that kind of carries it through and
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  Speaker 1: so yeah I think he does a great job with
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  Speaker 1: it but he did feel a little disconnected I feel
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  Speaker 1: like from the rest of the crew really. He felt
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  Speaker 1: like he was purposely being kind of Which, again... Segregated. Like,
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  Speaker 1: he was at the adults' table, and this was the.
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  Speaker 2: Kids' table.
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  Speaker 7: It was the same thing with the Jennifer Lawrence, and
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  Speaker 7: maybe that is part of it. Maybe they really are
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  Speaker 7: trying to kind of.
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  Speaker 1: Phase that era out and hand the torch over and
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  Speaker 1: be like, you guys are in. I mean, how great, again,
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 1: you know, with the Scooby gang, Nightcrawler and them going
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  Speaker 1: to the mall. Like, Nightcrawler in general was awesome. He
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  Speaker 1: was so funny and great. I don't know who that actor...
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 1: I'm going to have to look at... I love him already.
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  Speaker 1: He's pretty fun.
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  Speaker 7: But, I mean, that's the main thing to live up to, though,
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  Speaker 7: because that's what makes x2 like that performance.
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  Speaker 1: Is so good i played night crawling out was so
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  Speaker 1: awesome i mean he's good anyway but like that to
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  Speaker 1: me that's his role like i see him in other
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  Speaker 1: stuff and he's always fun but i'm like he's so
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  Speaker 1: damn good in x2 like it makes that movie for
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  Speaker 1: me it's the whole nightcrawler character and it's a he's
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  Speaker 1: definitely a favorite like even if you don't read the
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 1: nightcrawler comic you love it when nightcrawler shows up it's
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  Speaker 1: like oh my god nightcrawler is so cool And they
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  Speaker 1: gave him much respect in X2. Yeah. I'm just goosebumps.
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  Speaker 1: I'm so excited going forward. Like seeing Gene. Grey looking
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  Speaker 1: like Jean Grey, establishing that beginning relationship with Scott. Scott
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  Speaker 1: shooting lasers everywhere and getting his visor. Nightcrawler bouncing around,
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  Speaker 1: being a socially awkward geeky kid. Jubilee looking like Jubilee Storm,
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  Speaker 1: even though she's over here, looking badass as Storm. Looking badass.
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  Speaker 7: And and showing promise that she can come in and
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  Speaker 7: be badass as part of the team.
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  Speaker 1: Too so in fact they took her in so she's
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 1: she's there she's there she's.
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  Speaker 7: Part of the team so and and getting to fully
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  Speaker 7: realize quicksilver like i think this is what it's all
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 7: going to come down to is watching all this.
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  Speaker 1: Jail it almost feels like the end of winter soldier
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 1: when they were showing you the new avengers it felt
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 1: exactly like oh my god here we go like this
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  Speaker 1: is the next movie and i'm on board I am
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 1: so on board like can we have this movie tomorrow
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 1: please because a couple years off yeah I just at
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 1: this point mentally I think I think the best way
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  Speaker 1: to process this I mean if you love them you
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  Speaker 1: love them but if you're on the fence or maybe
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  Speaker 1: you don't like them a little I think the best
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  Speaker 1: way to process this is to just think of these
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  Speaker 1: last three as a great big origin story for the
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  Speaker 1: X-Men that they really want to give you and that
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  Speaker 1: we really want I think that's what's coming together I'm
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  Speaker 1: assuming they planned it all, but if not these last
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  Speaker 1: couple of movies, they've planned it enough that it's seemingly
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  Speaker 1: coming to that. So it'll be interesting to see if
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 1: that actually happens as we move forward. It was a
• 1:49:46
  Speaker 1: lot of green screen. Well, I guess on the production end.
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  Speaker 1: I hope they'll do more practical stuff in the future,
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 1: but there was a lot of... As fun as it
• 1:49:56
  Speaker 1: was to watch, so much of that stuff looked flat
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 1: at the end. So many flat scenes.
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  Speaker 7: It's hard to be more practical stuff as the stories
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 7: get not only bigger, but more interstellar based that I
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  Speaker 7: think we're going to get that a lot from here
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  Speaker 7: on out.
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  Speaker 1: They need better choreography. It's like, I think it breaks
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 1: down to the choreography. Cause it's like almost every action
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 1: scene at the end would be like a shot of
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 1: somebody shooting a projectile and a shot of somebody getting
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 1: hit by projectile, a shot of someone throwing an object,
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 1: a shot of someone getting hit. You know what? It
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 1: wasn't fluid. It wasn't in one shot. It was always
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 1: done in this way, like, I'm throwing this at you.
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  Speaker 1: And then it's like, look, I'm getting hit by the
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 1: thing you threw at me.
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  Speaker 7: That's the difference, again, looking at the battle scenes in
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 7: Avengers are phenomenal.
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  Speaker 1: The choreography is fully thought out.
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  Speaker 7: Watching Joss do that stuff is amazing.
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 1: It's like a dance routine if you do it on Avengers.
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 1: It's not bad, but it's pretty basic stuff compared to Avengers.
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  Speaker 1: X-Men movie was posing.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: You know, their fights are posing. Like, you know, Angel, like, blah,
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 1: throw my arms out. You know, we're going to put
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 1: in the wings and all the blades later. You know,
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  Speaker 1: Avengers are like, no, we need you to jump on
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 1: this person, kick, flip, roll. Like, Avengers, you're doing that shit.
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 1: X-Men so far has been pose. And it can work.
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  Speaker 8: It doesn't.
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  Speaker 1: It's got potential. I don't need high choreography to be
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  Speaker 1: a good fight, but. I think when there's a green
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 1: screen behind you also, I think then it really starts
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 1: to feel like a slideshow. You know, you just feel
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 1: like a frame's dropping in, and it's like, come on, guys,
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  Speaker 1: keep it fluid.
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  Speaker 3: All right.
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  Speaker 1: I think we've hit many a point, so I think
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 1: we better... Optimism. That would be my main point. The promise.
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying this movie is great, And I'm not
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 1: going to say it's bad. For me, it was fun.
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  Speaker 6: It is.
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  Speaker 1: Just fun. I smiled.
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  Speaker 8: It's fun.
• 1:51:50
  Speaker 1: It's entertaining. And I came out very, very, very optimistic
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  Speaker 1: about the future. And I didn't expect any of that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I kind of, again, I think it's got a dragging
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 1: its feet part in the middle. Third-ish. But yeah, once
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 1: we blow up the school and the Scooby gang kicks in,
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 1: it's like, I think it's really fun from that point on.
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 1: And Oscar Isaac did what he could. Like, again, I
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 1: feel like his character doesn't have much to do. But
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 1: I think his performance was pretty good. He sounded great.
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 1: He has a great voice.
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 7: He's got delivery that I wasn't sure. Again, it seemed
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 7: like odd casting when they announced him. So I was
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 7: kind of glad to at least see him.
• 1:52:28
  Speaker 1: Step up and do a good performance. It's just that's
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 1: hard to do that character, especially the way it was written.
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 1: Nothing was his fault. The costume was arguably meh. When
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 1: he was doing the big... proses and stuff. Like I said,
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  Speaker 1: his voice is great. It was there, you know, and
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 1: you tried to incorporate his history, but you know, it's just,
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 1: like I said, I feel like it was a bit Ultron.
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 1: It was like, you needed a bad guy to get
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 1: through this movie so we could set up the next one.
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 1: You know, so we didn't go all in. We went
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 1: halfway on Apocalypse. And if that's a deal breaker for you,
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 1: then know that ahead of time, they only went halfway.
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 1: But If you love 90s era X-Men, I would definitely
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 1: say be happy. It's coming. It's finally coming. It's more promising.
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 1: So that's what we've taken from this.
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  Speaker 6: All right.
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 1: I'm sure. I mean, I'll be back next week regardless.
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  Speaker 7: You're welcome to join me. If not, I'm sure you're
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 7: going to join us for Suicide Squad.
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 1: Oh, my God. Should we even mention it right now
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 1: or just stay quiet? Because that new trailer has me.
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 1: He's already getting all hyped. so geek they finally showed
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 1: did you get the suicide squad put it like this
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 1: there was a new suicide squad trailer for this movie
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 1: did you get that i did did you notice that
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 1: batman is finally in the trailer in there we also
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 1: get a shot of her with the hammer which i
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 1: thought was pretty fun because i didn't know that they
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 1: were going there so i'm i said it a million
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 1: times already but i'm like Doubling, tripling down. Suicide Squad
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 1: is going to destroy Batman vs. Superman. It's going to
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 1: destroy it. I'm not going to say a billion, but
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 1: I'm saying 900. 900 million. I think it'll do well.
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 1: It will probably do better than Apocalypse did. Yeah, it'll
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 1: beat X-Men too. It will beat X-Men also. So, mark
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  Speaker 1: your calendar now. Both you at home and you better
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 1: get yourself here so you can rant on it. Can't wait.
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  Speaker 8: Alright. Alright.
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  Speaker 1: Otherwise, thank you for joining us. We will return next time.
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  Speaker 1: Same Geek Feed.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks for listening.
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  Speaker 9: Sweet dreams made of these Who am I to disagree?
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  Speaker 9: I travel the world and the seven seas Everybody's looking
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 9: for something Some of them want to use you Some
• 1:54:53
  Speaker 9: of them want to get used by you. Some of
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 9: them want to abuse you. And some of them want
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 9: to be abused.
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 3: Sweet dreams are made of thee.
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 1: Who am I to disagree?
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 9: I travel the world in the seven seas. Everybody's looking
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 9: for something. Hold your head up, keep your head up
• 1:55:45
  Speaker 9: Hold your head.
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  Speaker 1: Up, keep your head up Some of them want.
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  Speaker 6: To abuse you.
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 9: Some of them.
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 1: Want to be abused by you Some of them.
• 1:56:22
  Speaker 9: Want to abuse you Some of them want to be abused.
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  Speaker 1: The world and the seven seas.
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  Speaker 3: Everybody's looking for something Sweet dreams are made of this
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  Speaker 3: Who am I to disagree? Travel the world and the
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 3: seven seas Everybody's looking for something Sweet dreams are made
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  Speaker 3: of this.
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 9: Who am I to disagree?
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 1: I'd travel the world and the seven seas.
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 9: Everybody's looking for something.
• 1:57:26
  Speaker 1: But to go, I won't do this. You know what
• 1:57:29
  Speaker 1: I'm saying? And to define yourself by what you won't.
• 1:57:31
  Speaker 1: I won't kill, but I don't wear shirts that say,
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 1: I don't murder. You know, it's like, yeah, well. You're
• 1:57:36
  Speaker 1: just not committed to the thing. I mean, you got
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  Speaker 1: to get behind the program here.
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