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8/5/25 -- Guest Host David Pollack W/ George Papadopolous, Kay Daly, David Grange, Nick Sortor, Mike Cox · Real America with Dan Ball

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Speaker 1: Good evening, and welcome to tonight's edition of Real America.
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Speaker 2: David Pollock in for Dan Ball. This week.
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Speaker 1: We begin tonight with top Obama era officials who are
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Speaker 1: now in the crosshairs of a federal grand jury accused
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Speaker 1: of masterminding the false Trump Russia collusion narrative both during
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Speaker 1: and after the twenty sixteen election that upended American politics.
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Speaker 1: The probe threatens to expose the architects behind years of
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Speaker 1: explosive allegations and could rewrite the saga of one of
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Speaker 1: the most divisive issues in the nation's history, Remember Russia,
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Speaker 1: Russia Russia. Reports indicate the investigation target's high ranking members
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Speaker 1: of President Obama's national security and intelligence team, including former
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Speaker 1: Director of National Intelligence James Clapper, former CIA director John Brennan,
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Speaker 1: and former National Security Advisor Susan Rice.
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Speaker 2: Also form Second Terry of State.
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Speaker 1: John Kerry, former Attorney General Loreena Lynch, and former FBI
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Speaker 1: Director Andrew McCabe. While Obama himself has not been officially
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Speaker 1: named as a target of the grand jury investigation, both
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Speaker 1: President Trump and Director of National Intelligence Toulsy Gabbert have
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Speaker 1: directly implicated Obama in allegedly orchestrating or overseeing the intelligence
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Speaker 1: community's actions regarding Trump and Russia. The investigation, spurred by
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Speaker 1: recent declassified intelligence and years of scrutiny, will focus on
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Speaker 1: whether these officials knowingly pushed in accurate narratives linking Trump
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Speaker 1: to Russian election interference, and this could lead to criminal
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Speaker 1: charges many are hoping it does. The federal grand jury
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Speaker 1: investigation into Obama and his cronies coincides with newly declassified
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Speaker 1: evidence revealing that Hillary Clinton's campaign in twenty sixteen orchestrated
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Speaker 1: and coordinated the plan to tie Trump to Putin, demonstrating
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Speaker 1: the complex and politically charged origins of the Russia collusion narrative.
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Speaker 1: Newly to classified evidence from special counsel John Durham revealed
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Speaker 1: that the Clinton campaign orchestrated a coordinated effort to smear
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Speaker 1: Trump by falsely leaking him to Russia. This strategy involved
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Speaker 1: funding the infamous Steal dossier, employing aggressive media campaigns, and
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Speaker 1: using intelligence leaks to distract from Clinton's growing email scandal.
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Speaker 1: CIA director John Brennan brief President Obama, Vice President Biden,
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Speaker 1: and FBI leaders on the plan, but the FBI failed
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Speaker 1: to properly investigate After losing the election, Clinton and her
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Speaker 1: team concluded to push the collusion narrative and in an
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Speaker 1: effort to undermine President Trump, and now CIA director John
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Speaker 1: Ratcliffe and FBI Director Cash Mattel are preparing to declassify
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Speaker 1: more documents documents exposing how the Bureau suppressed a counterintelligence
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Speaker 1: referral about the Clinton's twenty sixteen plan to frame Trump
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Speaker 1: as a Russian agent while aggressively pushing the debunked Steel dossier.
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Speaker 2: Joining us now to weigh in.
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Speaker 1: He's a former foreign policy advisor to President Trump, co
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Speaker 1: host of the Global View podcast It's a great show,
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Speaker 1: I've been on it, and author of the book Deep
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Speaker 1: State Target. It's our good friend, George Popaopplis. George, so
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Speaker 1: great to see you here now that I'm filling in
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Speaker 1: for Dan Ball on Real America. Look, we're all over
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Speaker 1: the place, and now we're here together. This is just
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Speaker 1: how we hang out, right, and we're here to talk
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Speaker 1: about something that I'm really really excited that I could
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Speaker 1: to actually talk to you about because for years where
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Speaker 1: I knew you, this was always something that was a
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Speaker 1: disappointing part of Trump legacy, was how you were targeted
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Speaker 1: unfairly in this whole Russia Gate collusion scandal.
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Speaker 2: But now it seems vindication is coming, right.
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Speaker 1: I mean, now when we have DOJ referrals, we have
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Speaker 1: all this information coming out burn bags discovered. Tell me
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Speaker 1: what is your take on what's happening right now? I've
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Speaker 1: seen you posting a lot about it. Are you feeling optimistic?
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Speaker 1: I mean, what's your thought on all of this?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, David, thanks a lot for having me. You're looking
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Speaker 3: like a real time natural up here, so really it's
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Speaker 3: great to be with you. Look, I'm not extremely optimistic,
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Speaker 3: and I just really want to you know, take a
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Speaker 3: quote from President Reagan where he said that personnel is policy,
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Speaker 3: and what does that really mean in today's world. It
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Speaker 3: means when you have patriotic Americans who would like to
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Speaker 3: abide by the Constitution and serve the will of the
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Speaker 3: American people, you will get good results. And the good
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Speaker 3: results and we're discussing here today, are draining the swamp,
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Speaker 3: holding corrupt officials accountable, and assuring that if a president,
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Speaker 3: whether they're on the left of the rights, ever, tries
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Speaker 3: to prevent the smooth transition of power between administrations ever
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Speaker 3: happens again, they will be held accountable. So I think
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Speaker 3: when you have people like Attorney General Bondie d n
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Speaker 3: I Gabbard, Director of the FBI Patel, all working in
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Speaker 3: tandem to declassify files and to transmit them to the
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Speaker 3: Marria and public, and that results in grand juries being impaneled,
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Speaker 3: that's a significant escalation that I believe will bear fruits.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I mean gosh, I was talking about this before the
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Speaker 1: show with the production team, and I was like, this
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Speaker 1: is probably the biggest scandal in American history, or one
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Speaker 1: of the biggest scandals in American history.
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Speaker 2: What we're talking about.
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Speaker 1: Is a former president, well now he's former President Obama,
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Speaker 1: current president at the time, working with his DOJ, working
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Speaker 1: with his Intelligence committee, working with foreign governments, working with
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Speaker 1: opposing campaigns, to develop a narrative to hurt the incoming president,
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Speaker 1: to get a visa warrant, to spy on the incoming
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Speaker 1: president knowing it was fake, and then going after the
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Speaker 1: president's allies yourself included casting a giant dragnet so they
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Speaker 1: can have some arrests to try to legitimize this fake
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Speaker 1: Russian hoax.
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Speaker 2: This should be twenty.
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Speaker 1: Four hours a day news coverage, but instead it seems
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Speaker 1: like only networks like one. American News is giving it
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Speaker 1: the attention it deserves. I mean, when you think about
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Speaker 1: what you experiencedvity of the situation and what is coming out,
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Speaker 1: I mean, are you shouldn't this be the biggest deal
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Speaker 1: ever in history. I know a lot of people want
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Speaker 1: to talk about Epstein, and we will talk about that
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Speaker 1: because interesting things are happening.
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Speaker 2: But this should be twenty four hour news, right.
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Speaker 3: It absolutely should be. And you know, one of the
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Speaker 3: greatest achievements of President Trump has really been to expose
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Speaker 3: his predecessors attempt to block the smooth transition of power.
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Speaker 4: David.
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Speaker 3: Look, when you have tinpod dictators or communist states or
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Speaker 3: totalitarian states weaponize the legal system in pursuit of political
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Speaker 3: power to maintain power or to stifle dissents the way
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Speaker 3: that Obama did in twenty sixteen, those type of regimes
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Speaker 3: are universally condemned, and you have intrepid journalists attempting to
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Speaker 3: do everything in their power to stop them by exposing
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Speaker 3: those facts.
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Speaker 5: What do we have going on here, David? A complete
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Speaker 5: one to eighty.
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Speaker 3: We're literally living in a one eighty bizarro world in
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Speaker 3: which the mainstream media and their cohearts and the Democrat
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Speaker 3: Party are colluding to suppress what should be the biggest
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Speaker 3: political bombshell in history. They don't want the truth.
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Speaker 5: They want the.
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Speaker 3: Facts to be written by the Obama administration's legacy, and
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Speaker 3: that's not going to happen.
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Speaker 1: Well, I mean, the media was, I would say, just
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Speaker 1: as closely involved as the intelligence community was with Obama
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Speaker 1: in making sure this narrative. One now, to remember, twenty
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Speaker 1: four hours a day, it was Russia, Russia, Russia. Every
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Speaker 1: single day was like the biggest thing ever. They couldn't
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Speaker 1: stop talking about Russia. And now they can't find a
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Speaker 1: way to talk about it at all.
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Speaker 2: But really interesting, and a lot.
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Speaker 1: Of people were questioning, Oh, yeah, we'll see what happens
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Speaker 1: with this. They were saying, you know, we'll see if
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Speaker 1: pan Bondi actually does anything. All these naysayers couldn't you know,
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Speaker 1: couldn't really be happy about this.
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Speaker 2: Yet we just saw referrals, criminal referrals for.
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Speaker 1: Christopher Ray, referrals for Jack Smith, whether they were lying
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Speaker 1: to investigators that sounds familiar, right, or violating the Hatch
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Speaker 1: Act with timing certain announcement.
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Speaker 2: I mean, this thing looks like things are really moving forward, right.
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Speaker 3: George, Yeah, I mean, look out, let's just I mean,
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Speaker 3: things are moving so quickly now we're actually forgetting how
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Speaker 3: quickly and this bombshell is evolving. Just a couple of
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Speaker 3: weeks ago, for the first time in American history, both
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Speaker 3: a former FBI and a former CIA director became under
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Speaker 3: criminal investigation simultaneously. You then had d and I gabbered
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Speaker 3: declassify files at the highest levels of the US government,
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Speaker 3: exposing Obama as the ringleader of a scandal that has
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Speaker 3: now engulfed the former CIA director and the former FBI director.
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Speaker 3: Now you have actions on those referrals with a grand
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Speaker 3: jury in paneled. So things are moving incredibly fast and
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Speaker 3: it's only August now.
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Speaker 5: I believe I believe.
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Speaker 3: Karma is going to be very sweet here, because you
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Speaker 3: can argue that during Trump's first administration, the Russia investigation
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Speaker 3: basically stopped him from maintaining control over the House. The
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Speaker 3: Democrats took over Congress based on the bogus investigation. Now,
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Speaker 3: with the real facts and a real investigation and millions
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Speaker 3: of more Americans waking up to the scandal, you're going
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Speaker 3: to likely see AMaGA's grip on Congress extend and President
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Speaker 3: Trump never being more popular than ever before.
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Speaker 6: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I mean, and you have to remember in the wake
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Speaker 1: of this lawfare, essentially where the other countries are like, hey,
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Speaker 1: wait a minute, if they could do that in the
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Speaker 1: United States, we could do it too. You look what's
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Speaker 1: happening in Brazil, you look what's happened over in Europe,
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Speaker 1: and in all these places were like, well.
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Speaker 2: The United States can do it, and then we can
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Speaker 2: do it.
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Speaker 1: That's why this is so important that we get to
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Speaker 1: the bottom of this, not only to vindicate Trump and
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Speaker 1: people like you and that got swept up in it,
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Speaker 1: but at the same time to show other countries that
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Speaker 1: this isn't the way and we need to stop that
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Speaker 1: trend of weaponizing government against political enemies.
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Speaker 2: The United States has to stand for that.
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Speaker 1: Thirty seconds, let me ask you about the news today
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Speaker 1: about Epstein.
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Speaker 2: We're going to talk about it more later in the show.
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Speaker 2: But man, the Democrats were asking, oh, release the files.
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Speaker 1: Well guess what now, subpoena isn't being issued and they're
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Speaker 1: not going to like the names they're attached to them.
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Speaker 2: Do you have any brief thoughts about that, David?
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Speaker 3: I think when you have nothing to hide, you want
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Speaker 3: accountability and Transparency's transparency brings accountability. President and Trump had
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Speaker 3: nothing to do with that creep epstein, but Bill Clinton
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Speaker 3: and very high level of Democrats absolutely had a very
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Speaker 3: close relationship. Based on the testimony that Maxwell gave. This
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Speaker 3: is based on reports I've read, it looks like she's
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Speaker 3: actually fingered people like Clinton and others, And now based
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Speaker 3: on that testimony and others, with these subpoenas coming down hard,
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Speaker 3: they should be sweating and it's going to be glorious.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't wait.
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Speaker 1: We'll see if they keep saying epstein, epstein, epstein after
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Speaker 1: this latest batch of information, they'll probably just ignore it.
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Speaker 1: But hey, there's too much good news coming out for
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Speaker 1: our side. The Meetia's not gonna be able to donore
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Speaker 1: it forever, but hey, we'll be covering it here. George Popadoppolos,
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Speaker 1: my good good friend, thank you so much for being
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Speaker 1: here today. We'll keep watching as things go, and everybody
10:53
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Speaker 1: where do you want them to go?
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Speaker 2: so much for joining and we'll talk again real soon.
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Speaker 4: Appreciate it.
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Speaker 2: Thank you.
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Speaker 1: Democrat lawmakers in the Lone Star State are now facing
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Speaker 1: Democrats are doing the political two step and the lone
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Speaker 1: Star state in a desperate effort to derail gop led
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Speaker 1: redrawing of Texas's congressional map. The Texas House reconvened earlier today,
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Speaker 1: but failed to reach a quorum for a second day
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Speaker 1: in a row. More than fifty Democrat state representatives fled
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Speaker 1: Texas last weekend to sideline the legislative proceedings. Speaker Dustin
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Speaker 1: Burrough says he's met with the Texas Department of Public
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Speaker 1: Safety to get a full briefing on their efforts to
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Speaker 1: locate and return members who are actively trying to thwart
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Speaker 1: the legislature from performing its duties.
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Speaker 2: The Texas House yesterday.
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Speaker 1: Authorized warrants for dozens of Democrat lawmakers who didn't appear
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Speaker 1: and deny the House and quorum necessary to move forward
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Speaker 1: with redistricting. These cowards left the state over the weekend,
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Speaker 1: blocking a vote on the bill aimed at expanding GOP
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Speaker 1: control in Congress by adding five new seats, and that's
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Speaker 1: at the heart of this matter. Yesterday, Texas Governor Greg
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Speaker 1: Abbott ordered the arrest of the Democrat lawmakers who are
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Speaker 1: holding up the business of the people. The Texas House
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Speaker 1: voted eighty five to six to issue civil arrest warrants
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Speaker 1: directing authorities to bring absent Democrats back to the Capitol.
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Speaker 2: What a surprise, Democrats aren't showing up to work.
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Speaker 1: Abbott is accusing them of abandoning their duties and holding
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Speaker 1: flood relief and property tax cuts hostage. Texas Attorney General
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Speaker 1: Ken Paxton supports swift legal action against the Democrats, accusing
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Speaker 1: them of a cowardly desertion and potential legal violations, including bribery.
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Speaker 1: President Trump is also weighing in on the underhanded actions
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Speaker 1: by these so called Democrat leaders, the Commander in chief
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Speaker 1: publicly asserting that Republicans are entitled to five more seats
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Speaker 1: in Texas, selling the GOP's aggressive redistricting plan. Through redistricting
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Speaker 1: battle reflects a broader national struggle for the US House majority,
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Speaker 1: as Democrats need to gain seats in order to regain control,
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Speaker 1: while Republicans aim to solidify their hold, making Texas a
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Speaker 1: crucial battleground.
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Speaker 9: You notice they go to Illinois for safety. But that's
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Speaker 9: all Jerry Mander. California's Jerry Mander. We should have many
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Speaker 9: more seats in Congress in California. It's all Jerry manded.
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Speaker 9: And we have an opportunity in Texas to pick up
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Speaker 9: five seats. We have a really good governor, and we
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Speaker 9: have good people in Texas, and I won Texas. I
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Speaker 9: got the highest vote in the history of Texas. Is
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Speaker 9: you probably know? And we are entitled to five more seats.
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Speaker 2: I don't know.
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Speaker 1: Here now to help me break all of this down
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Speaker 1: is the host of the Daily Fix k Daily.
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Speaker 2: Hey care, how are you doing? David Great?
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Speaker 1: Welcome to the fancy new set here filling in for
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Speaker 1: Dan Ball with a stellar crew.
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Speaker 2: In the back in my life. Very easy.
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Speaker 1: So have you been watching the craziness out of tasks
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Speaker 1: with Democrats fleeing the state to avoid losing I mean,
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Speaker 1: is there anything they don't do.
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Speaker 10: No, they will go to the ends of the earth
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Speaker 10: to protect their redistricting. That's the fact. And also Pritzker
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Speaker 10: and Hochel, two governors who love their sanctuary states. Right, well,
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Speaker 10: they given sanctuary not only to illegal aliens, but apparently
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Speaker 10: run away Texas House Democrats.
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Speaker 2: Wow, I mean their FBI.
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Speaker 1: Now, I saw this morning that the FBI was going
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Speaker 1: to investigate whether out of state funding was going to
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Speaker 1: encourage some.
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Speaker 2: Of these lawmakers to leave.
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Speaker 1: This is just crazy, by the way, because we remember
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Speaker 1: they did this before in the past. They hate losing.
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Speaker 1: The Left hates losing so much that if it looks
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Speaker 1: like they might lose. I mean, we talked about early
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Speaker 1: with George Pophodopolis, the lengths that would go to discredit
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Speaker 1: Trump's twenty sixteen win, colluding with you know, with this
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Speaker 1: whole Russian collusion thing.
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Speaker 2: We've seen this before. Democrats are like, oh, We're not
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Speaker 2: gonna lose, have you.
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Speaker 1: I mean, what a big, big group of babies, right,
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Speaker 1: I mean, why can't they just take the l and
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Speaker 1: move on. I mean, they would do anything they can
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Speaker 1: to jerrymander a district to benefit them.
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Speaker 2: They've tried this in California, but now in Texas.
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Speaker 1: They're gonna flee so they can't be held to at
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Speaker 1: least have a quorum.
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Speaker 2: Right, this is crazy.
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Speaker 10: This has been going on for a while now, David,
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Speaker 10: I mean North Carolina is sort of the king of redistricting.
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Speaker 10: But also this happened in Texas before Tom Delay, then
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Speaker 10: House Majority leader. He decided he was going to raise
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Speaker 10: money to win seats in the legislature in the state
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Speaker 10: of Texas.
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Speaker 2: Well.
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Speaker 10: The left enlisted Ronnie Earl a DA to prosecute Tom
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Speaker 10: Delay on some made up stuff, and he was convicted,
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Speaker 10: but it was overturned on appeal. His co defendants were
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Speaker 10: also convicted. It took him ten years and ten million
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Speaker 10: dollars to get vindicated for some made up crimes. This
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Speaker 10: is how far they'll go because you know this, literally
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Speaker 10: ninety percent of a campaign with a districted race is
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Speaker 10: how those lines are drawn and who's holding that pencil.
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Speaker 1: Well, look, and it looked five seats we could potentially
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Speaker 1: pick up the GOP and we already in narrow majority.
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Speaker 1: We're trying to hold outs the Democrats and Timu Obama
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Speaker 1: and Hakeem Jeffries have already threatened to impeach Trump like
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Speaker 1: basically day one. They're just back to the twenty eighteenth script.
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Speaker 1: They're not going to do anything for the American people,
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Speaker 1: but they're going to do whatever they can to.
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Speaker 2: Quote unquote resist Trump. But this is what we're fighting over.
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Speaker 1: They're fighting to save Jazzmine Crockett, queen queen of the
19:52
Speaker 1: weird Frontier.
19:54
Speaker 2: I mean, seriously, what do you think the American people
19:56
Speaker 2: are going to make of this?
19:58
Speaker 10: Well, they should know first of all that Ksmen is
20:00
Speaker 10: not the least bit concerned about her constituents at all.
20:03
Speaker 10: She's concerned not how those districts are lines are drawn
20:07
Speaker 10: for her constituents, but she's worried about the corporations that
20:12
Speaker 10: give her big fat checks in her district. They're being
20:14
Speaker 10: drawn out.
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Speaker 3: I'm not going to miss her.
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Speaker 1: Actually, frankly, there'll be somebody else we can make fun of.
20:20
Speaker 1: What do you make of the fact that they're going
20:22
Speaker 1: to try to arrest these folks.
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Speaker 2: I mean, wouldn't that be awesome? Yes?
20:27
Speaker 10: I mean, look, this happened before in twenty twenty one,
20:30
Speaker 10: and they got away with it. They sort of wandered
20:32
Speaker 10: back at some point, but you know, the Dems played
20:37
Speaker 10: the same game back in twenty twenty one, and they
20:41
Speaker 10: eventually relented. It was a Ken Paxton opinion that the
20:47
Speaker 10: governor has the power to declare these seats vacant and
20:52
Speaker 10: remove them from their seats. These were calcitrant truants and
20:58
Speaker 10: they have the power to do so. It's never been litigated,
21:02
Speaker 10: okay ever, but this is what Ken Paxton, General Attorney
21:06
Speaker 10: General Ken Paxson is going to do. Apparently by Friday,
21:11
Speaker 10: August eight, if these folks do not show up in
21:15
Speaker 10: the Texas State House, Ken Paxton is going to vacate
21:18
Speaker 10: their seat. He's going to get a court order now
21:22
Speaker 10: to try and do that. But the litigation could be tough.
21:26
Speaker 10: It's going to be one district at a time, when
21:28
Speaker 10: seat at a time.
21:29
Speaker 2: I don't want to see that at all. I really don't.
21:33
Speaker 2: It's what we have to do.
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Speaker 1: Ken Paxon's coming on the show tomorrow actually where we'll
21:36
Speaker 1: talk to him about that.
21:37
Speaker 2: It's going to be.
21:38
Speaker 10: Tell him hello from me, let me no. General Paxton
21:44
Speaker 10: deserves a debt of gratitude, okay, from MAGA Republicans, from
21:49
Speaker 10: regular Republicans, independence Americans in general, because this is what
21:52
Speaker 10: courage looks like in the face of insanity, and he
21:56
Speaker 10: is standing strong personally. I can't wait to call him
21:59
Speaker 10: Senator me too.
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Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to calling him Centator Paxton as well. Look,
22:02
Speaker 2: let me tell you what's so important about the what's
22:05
Speaker 2: going on.
22:05
Speaker 1: In Texas because other states are going to look at
22:08
Speaker 1: this as a roadmap to how to avoid redistricting, and
22:13
Speaker 1: so what happens here is the most important thing. Look,
22:16
Speaker 1: you talk about Gavin Newsom, I mean he's looking about
22:19
Speaker 1: how Texas is responding and what he.
22:21
Speaker 2: Can do about it.
22:22
Speaker 1: I mean, we don't need to give Democrats any new
22:25
Speaker 1: opportunities to cheat, right exactly.
22:29
Speaker 10: Look, this is a this has been going on for
22:33
Speaker 10: a while. Redistricting has always been a battle in places
22:36
Speaker 10: like North Carolina. It started years and years and years ago.
22:41
Speaker 10: I mean, how hard do they fight for their gerrymandering.
22:44
Speaker 2: They invent crimes. Yeah, they'll put you in prison.
22:47
Speaker 10: They will do anything they can to stop the You
22:51
Speaker 10: know that you're blocking their agenda. And this is part
22:55
Speaker 10: for the course. This is how much the left cares.
22:58
Speaker 10: They know the rules, they go around around them. And
23:01
Speaker 10: we've got to find some testicular fortitude to make sure
23:05
Speaker 10: that we get our gerrymandered districts unjerrymandered and have some
23:09
Speaker 10: really fair, compact, community minded districts there. And I'm sorry
23:14
Speaker 10: that that upsets Al Green and Jasmine Crockett and the rest.
23:18
Speaker 2: Of them, But that's too bad.
23:20
Speaker 10: Fourteenth Amendment rules.
23:21
Speaker 1: Will will bottle up some of that fortitude and sell
23:23
Speaker 1: it because we need some fighters in this country to fight.
23:26
Speaker 1: All three left, Kay Daily, thank you so much for
23:29
Speaker 1: joining awesome conversation, and we'll talk to you again.
23:31
Speaker 10: Will say thank you, I appreciate you.
23:34
Speaker 2: Good night.
23:35
Speaker 1: Tensions rise between the United States and Russia over the
23:39
Speaker 1: conflict involving Ukraine. Will we see a ceasefire or more
23:43
Speaker 1: crippling sanctions? Retired Major General of the United States Army
23:47
Speaker 1: David Grange weighs in right after this.
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Speaker 1: Russia is backing down from aggressive rhetoric by former Russian
26:25
Speaker 1: president Dmitri Medvedev following remarks by Donald Trump that he
26:29
Speaker 1: had ordered US nuclear submarines closer to Moscow. Medadvedev provoked
26:35
Speaker 1: the US action by making veiled nuclear threats and dismissing
26:39
Speaker 1: US ultimatums. He also mocked Trump's ultimatum for Russia to
26:43
Speaker 1: strike a peace deal over Ukraine, stating on social media
26:46
Speaker 1: that each new ultimatum is a threat and a step
26:49
Speaker 1: towards war. The Kremlin, seeking to calm tensions, is now
26:52
Speaker 1: publicly downplaying Medvedev's comments, a spokesman saying that Russia.
26:56
Speaker 2: Doesn't want a war of words to erupt into.
26:59
Speaker 1: Actual war, while underscoring Moscow's responsible stance on nuclear weapons.
27:05
Speaker 1: US Special Voice Steve Witkoff is traveling to Moscow tomorrow
27:09
Speaker 1: in an attempt to restart the Ukraine peace process, just
27:12
Speaker 1: two days before new US sanctions on Russia are set
27:16
Speaker 1: to begin. Trump has issued a Friday deadline for Russia
27:19
Speaker 1: to agree to end the Ukraine war or face new
27:22
Speaker 1: tougher economic sanctions, including secondary tariffs that would impact countries
27:27
Speaker 1: still trading with Russia, notably China and India. A key
27:31
Speaker 1: Russian demand for any Ukraine peace deal is US recognition
27:34
Speaker 1: of the Russian annexation of several regions within Ukraine, as
27:38
Speaker 1: well as acceptance of the referendums held in those regions.
27:42
Speaker 1: Without US agreements to these territorial concessions, Russia is unlikely
27:47
Speaker 1: to stop military operations until it fully controls these areas.
27:51
Speaker 1: In the meantime, Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelinsky discussed sanctions against
27:55
Speaker 1: Russia in a recent phone call with President Trump ahead
27:57
Speaker 1: of US on voice Steve Wikoff's visit to Moscow aimed
28:00
Speaker 1: at reviving peace talks, Zelensky and his advisors are pushing
28:04
Speaker 1: for the US and allies to choke the Russian economy
28:07
Speaker 1: through tough secondary sanctions and tariffs aimed at reducing Russian
28:11
Speaker 1: revenues critical to sustaining their military efforts. Ukraine conducted a
28:15
Speaker 1: series of precision drone strikes over the weekend, targeting multiple
28:19
Speaker 1: strategic sites inside Russia and occupied Crimea, focusing on military, industrial,
28:24
Speaker 1: and energy infrastructure. Targets included a military airfield in Crimea,
28:29
Speaker 1: destroying at least one fighter jet and damaging others and
28:32
Speaker 1: hitting an aviation munitions depot. The attacks also hit Russian
28:36
Speaker 1: oil facilities and sites producing or storing Iranian design drones,
28:40
Speaker 1: which Russia uses extensively for attacks on Ukraine. This as
28:45
Speaker 1: President Trump highlights the atrocities of the ongoing war between
28:48
Speaker 1: Russia and Ukraine the Commander in Chief, pointing out that
28:51
Speaker 1: nearly twenty thousand Russian soldiers died in July twenty twenty
28:56
Speaker 1: five alone. Trump says Russia has lost approximately one hundred
28:59
Speaker 1: and twelve thousand souls since the beginning of the twenty
29:01
Speaker 1: twenty five since the beginning of twenty twenty five, calling
29:04
Speaker 1: it a lot of unnecessary death, He estimates that Ukraine
29:07
Speaker 1: has suffered about eight thousand military deaths since the beginning
29:11
Speaker 1: of this year, not including missing personnel. Here now is
29:15
Speaker 1: retired Major General of the United States Army and president
29:19
Speaker 1: and CEO of Osprey Global Solutions, David Grange.
29:23
Speaker 2: Welcome to the show.
29:25
Speaker 4: Well, thank you pleasure to be honest, it.
29:27
Speaker 2: Is my pleasure to be speaking with you today.
29:29
Speaker 1: I don't think people realize just what a retired general
29:33
Speaker 1: means because you led probably one of the most elite
29:37
Speaker 1: forces of fighters known to man the Delta Force, and
29:41
Speaker 1: so you've seen a lot of stuff. And now you
29:43
Speaker 1: have been working with Ukraine and with drones, and there's
29:46
Speaker 1: so much going on in Ukraine that people don't quite understand.
29:49
Speaker 1: Everybody wants to see a ceas fire there. President Trump
29:51
Speaker 1: said he wants to see a cease fire in day one.
29:54
Speaker 1: The parties there have been a little bit resistant to
29:57
Speaker 1: Trump's wishes for a ceasefire. What's your take right now
30:00
Speaker 1: in the status of a Russia Ukraine war and when
30:02
Speaker 1: do you see it ending?
30:05
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't see it ending soon. There may be
30:07
Speaker 4: a piece agreement. I think it'll be a week in
30:13
Speaker 4: a week agreement. It won't last like the Bosnian Herzegovina agreement.
30:20
Speaker 4: It won't have that kind of specificity to it. It'll
30:23
Speaker 4: be tough to maintain. You have a very large force,
30:26
Speaker 4: of course Russia on one side. You don't have different
30:29
Speaker 4: factions dealing with the smaller nation of course Ukraine. So
30:34
Speaker 4: I think that'll be it. That'll be tough, and it'll
30:36
Speaker 4: be violations, and I think it's a pause for Putin.
30:40
Speaker 4: I don't think Putin will take it serious. He may
30:42
Speaker 4: do it just because the sanctions or other pressures, or
30:46
Speaker 4: just as his perception in the world, the way he
30:49
Speaker 4: looks at it. But I think it'll be tough to maintain,
30:53
Speaker 4: so I don't feel good about it. It will happen,
30:57
Speaker 4: but it won't be a very robust piece plan.
31:00
Speaker 5: Now.
31:01
Speaker 2: Look, we've seen a lot of large weaponry be utilized
31:05
Speaker 2: in this war. I mean there was a request for jets,
31:08
Speaker 2: there's obviously we've seen.
31:10
Speaker 1: Posturing on the nuclear side, with submarines being moved into positions.
31:13
Speaker 1: But I think one of the most effective tools in
31:17
Speaker 1: this war, and something that's really becoming at the forefront
31:21
Speaker 1: of modern warfare as use of drones. I remember I
31:24
Speaker 1: was at when they call it Soft Week or Suffolk
31:28
Speaker 1: they call it over in Tampa a year ago, and
31:30
Speaker 1: I was so impressed with all the drone technology, drone, submarines,
31:33
Speaker 1: drone you know, everything is drones, and it's made warfare
31:37
Speaker 1: looks like more affordable and sometimes more effective. Can you
31:39
Speaker 1: talk a little bit about how drones have been utilized
31:42
Speaker 1: so effectively in showcase really in this Russia Ukraine conflict.
31:46
Speaker 4: Sure, we've had the opportunity for the last three years
31:49
Speaker 4: to go and work in Ukraine. I think twelve deployments, training,
31:54
Speaker 4: medical and explosive ordinance disposal with Ukrainian first responders and military.
32:00
Speaker 4: But while we're there, obviously there's drones everywhere, and we
32:04
Speaker 4: indirectly got involved with drones. Yes, AirLand and sea, just
32:09
Speaker 4: like the domains of warfare. And the Ukrainians start with
32:12
Speaker 4: the water because they've done a great job better than
32:15
Speaker 4: Russia and destroying about a third the Black Sea fleet
32:19
Speaker 4: and actually pushing them where they cannot really control the
32:23
Speaker 4: Black Sea the way they want to.
32:25
Speaker 5: On land, both.
32:26
Speaker 4: Sides are using the heck added drones and they've evolved
32:30
Speaker 4: from the first personal view is a small you know,
32:33
Speaker 4: seven to ten inch drones that mostly you hear about
32:36
Speaker 4: and see about. And then of course they go up
32:38
Speaker 4: to the Shihiba drones from Iran, the larger ones. But
32:42
Speaker 4: they're they're quite effective on the battlefield. It's not an
32:45
Speaker 4: end all in darkness, in bad weather, artillery and mortars
32:51
Speaker 4: probably still rule. So it's the key is how to
32:54
Speaker 4: integrate drones, which is a new piece on a battlefield,
32:58
Speaker 4: just like you know airplanes World War One, their tanks
33:01
Speaker 4: and you know, different things change all the time, but
33:04
Speaker 4: they're very effective. I was scared of them I have
33:07
Speaker 4: to admit, uh. And they use it for everything, I mean, reconnaissance,
33:12
Speaker 4: trying to evacuate wounded, which is what we were looking
33:15
Speaker 4: at Kamakazi, to blow up anything from a tank down
33:19
Speaker 4: or an individual soldier. So they're very effective. They're gonna
33:23
Speaker 4: take take place in the future combat for quite some time.
33:27
Speaker 4: But the key thing about all this technology, David, is
33:29
Speaker 4: that it has to be integrated with tactics. You can
33:32
Speaker 4: have all the technology you want, especially of the drones,
33:35
Speaker 4: but if they're not trained to use the drone, if
33:36
Speaker 4: they don't apply it properly in the tactics they use,
33:40
Speaker 4: it's not effective. But right now they're very effective. And
33:42
Speaker 4: then of course the air dominates the skies, which Ukraine
33:47
Speaker 4: has to do because they don't have the air they
33:48
Speaker 4: can't launch aircraft and other things like this. So it's
33:53
Speaker 4: it's quite an anomy and it's but it's now it's
33:55
Speaker 4: a normal piece of every day fighting.
33:57
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I remember in the area in the
33:59
Speaker 1: army parade THAT'M had a month ago, they had like
34:02
Speaker 1: the future of warfare, and they just had one soldier
34:04
Speaker 1: carrying a drone. If you remember, you're just holding it up.
34:07
Speaker 1: I think his arm must be getting tired. But like
34:09
Speaker 1: recognizing the advancement of drones. We saw this morning Secretary
34:15
Speaker 1: Duffy outlining a plan to upgrade US drone technology.
34:20
Speaker 2: We have a video of it, check it out.
34:21
Speaker 11: We are going to unleash American drone dominance. So President
34:27
Speaker 11: Trump not long ago introduced an executive order to make
34:31
Speaker 11: sure that the Cabinet put this issue on the forefront,
34:36
Speaker 11: to make sure that we lean in to our airspace
34:40
Speaker 11: when it relates to drone technology. And the problem we
34:42
Speaker 11: have is that on the consumer drone market, China controls
34:47
Speaker 11: ninety percent of this market. And the problem with that
34:51
Speaker 11: is we're turning over our skies to one of our
34:55
Speaker 11: main adversaries. Huge problem, and it's going to happen no longer.
35:00
Speaker 2: What do you make of the Secretary's initiative, General.
35:03
Speaker 4: Well, I'm all for it, but it's a little late.
35:05
Speaker 4: I mean, we should have done in a while back.
35:09
Speaker 4: So first of all, let's talk about what he just said.
35:12
Speaker 4: Tied to the doctrine of fighting, you'll fight a close fight.
35:15
Speaker 4: That's like the trench warfare going on between Russians and
35:18
Speaker 4: Ukrainians right now. It's like World War One with high
35:21
Speaker 4: tech flannel above you and everything. You have the rear
35:24
Speaker 4: area that you have to secure, that's your secure supply lines.
35:27
Speaker 4: And then you have the deep attack, and that's like
35:29
Speaker 4: the Russians using Iranian Shaheed missiles going into Kiv other
35:34
Speaker 4: places in Ukraine. It's also like the Ukrainian Special Operations
35:37
Speaker 4: attacking strategic bombers inside a Russian proper. Great, by the way,
35:41
Speaker 4: a regular warfare example. I love it, but deep rear
35:47
Speaker 4: and close fight. Now on the drone piece, we can't
35:51
Speaker 4: do what he just said unless our industrial base is
35:55
Speaker 4: ready to do that, and you cannot build things manufactured
35:58
Speaker 4: drones the way we're talking about doing it without secure
36:01
Speaker 4: supply lines of rare earth metals and rare earth elements,
36:05
Speaker 4: and the processing of that is controlled by Russia and
36:08
Speaker 4: a few other countries are very much involved. We have
36:11
Speaker 4: several presidential directives out there right now to get off
36:14
Speaker 4: our butts and do this, but we're slow starting it.
36:18
Speaker 4: We have not secured our supply lines for the material
36:22
Speaker 4: required to do what he just said. So we we're
36:25
Speaker 4: starting to do that, but we're slow, and if we
36:28
Speaker 4: don't do it soon, when the fight starts, you know,
36:32
Speaker 4: obviously you have to be ready, and so that's one
36:34
Speaker 4: of my biggest concerns personal.
36:36
Speaker 1: Well, general, thank you so much for joining, Thank you
36:38
Speaker 1: so much for your insight. Hope to have you back
36:39
Speaker 1: on the show again real soon. And thank you for
36:41
Speaker 1: your service and leadership to this country.
36:44
Speaker 4: Well, thanks for those words. Appreciate it and it's an
36:45
Speaker 4: honor to be on your show.
36:46
Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you.
36:48
Speaker 1: House Oversight Committee Chairman James Comer fires off subpoenas to
36:53
Speaker 1: several high profile individuals, including the Clintons, former FBI directors,
36:58
Speaker 1: and ex Us at Ernie's General, looking for answers.
37:02
Speaker 2: In the Jeffrey Epstein saga. They ask for it. Stay tuned.
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Speaker 1: Now to the latest involving the saga of Jeffrey Epstein.
39:43
Speaker 1: House Oversight Committee Chairman James Comer is firing off subpoenas
39:47
Speaker 1: to several high profile individuals for testimony and documents related
39:52
Speaker 1: to the Epstein investigation. Hey, Democrats asked for it, but
39:55
Speaker 1: you're gonna love this. Those subpoenas included former President Bill K. Clinton,
40:00
Speaker 1: his detestable wife and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton,
40:04
Speaker 1: and former FBI directors James Comy and Robert Mueller. Multiple
40:09
Speaker 1: former US Attorneys General are also suboenaed, including Merrick Garland,
40:14
Speaker 1: William Barr, Alberto Gonzalez, Jeff Sessions, Loretta Lynch, and Eric Holder.
40:19
Speaker 1: The committee is demanding that the Justice Department turn over
40:22
Speaker 1: all Epstein related materials by August nineteenth.
40:26
Speaker 2: Be careful what you wish for, Democrats.
40:28
Speaker 1: Meantime, the DOJ has requested two federal judges in New
40:32
Speaker 1: York to unseal several days of grand jury testimony transcripts
40:37
Speaker 1: in the cases of Jeffrey Epstein and Geslaine Maxwell to
40:41
Speaker 1: promote transparency. Epstein's grand jury met twice in twenty nineteen
40:45
Speaker 1: before the indictment, and Maxwell's grand jury met three times
40:48
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty and in twenty twenty one. Before and
40:51
Speaker 1: after her indictment, The DOJ has notified all but one
40:54
Speaker 1: victim name in the transcripts about the unsealing motion and
40:57
Speaker 1: will notify other victims soon. Meanwhile, Maxwell opposes the release
41:02
Speaker 1: Surprise Surprise, arguing that unlike Epstein, who is deceased, she
41:06
Speaker 1: is still alive and releasing the transcripts would violate her
41:10
Speaker 1: due process rights and grand jury secrecy protections. Probably should
41:14
Speaker 1: have thought about that before you got involved with Epstein.
41:16
Speaker 1: Maxwell's attorneys contend that she has been made a scapegoat
41:20
Speaker 1: in the Epstein case and seeks to protect her legal
41:23
Speaker 1: rights in ongoing appeals. Joining us now independent journalist and
41:28
Speaker 1: my good friend Nick Sorder, welcome to the show.
41:33
Speaker 5: I appreciate you having me, David.
41:35
Speaker 2: Listen.
41:35
Speaker 1: It's my pleasure. You know, I follow your work, and
41:37
Speaker 1: you're crushing it on just about every story, the big
41:40
Speaker 1: one today. I mean, this whole they've been screaming. I mean,
41:44
Speaker 1: we've talked about this. They've been screaming, release the rest
41:47
Speaker 1: of the Epstein files. The Democrats realized there was some
41:49
Speaker 1: fracture and MAGA and they were like, oh yeah, Epstein, Epstein, Epstein. Well,
41:53
Speaker 1: what does Congress do today? The issue subpoena's names like
41:57
Speaker 1: Bill Clinton is on there. We know he'd been to
41:59
Speaker 1: Epsteen Island. So tell me what's going on in the
42:02
Speaker 1: latest Epstein saga. I didn't want to talk about Epstein anymore.
42:05
Speaker 1: For this, this is Epstein I can talk about.
42:09
Speaker 3: Well.
42:09
Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, I was actually a little bit surprised
42:12
Speaker 5: by the subpoenas that went out today. But however, like
42:16
Speaker 5: this is the thing here, Republicans don't exactly have a
42:19
Speaker 5: track record of holding people to what they should be
42:24
Speaker 5: held to, right, So you'll see Democrats will throw somebody
42:27
Speaker 5: like Steve Bannon or whatever in jail for not going
42:30
Speaker 5: to you're not answering a subpoena for an illegal subcommittee,
42:36
Speaker 5: the J six subcommittee win ilegal, it wasn't even legitimate,
42:39
Speaker 5: and they for him in prison. Will Republicans do the
42:42
Speaker 5: same if these political hacks that have just been subpoena
42:46
Speaker 5: don't show up, you know, I don't have a lot
42:48
Speaker 5: of faith, but you know, the pressure seems to be working.
42:52
Speaker 5: The wheels are turning, and if these people choose not
42:56
Speaker 5: to show up, we're gonna be like a fire under
43:00
Speaker 5: their ast to actually do something they're not getting away
43:02
Speaker 5: with it.
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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, you're right.
43:04
Speaker 1: I think Republicans are figuring out how to fight, and
43:07
Speaker 1: you know they're getting there. You're right, Democrats, if they
43:10
Speaker 1: were in this position, they would have their committees, they
43:12
Speaker 1: would just they would have the media.
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Speaker 2: They would be doing everything they can do to make
43:15
Speaker 2: this the biggest issue in the world.
43:17
Speaker 1: But you'll have to remember, I mean this when this
43:19
Speaker 1: broke and that the elite FBI memo was talking about, hey,
43:23
Speaker 1: there is no more information in this time, there's no
43:25
Speaker 1: one else to charge, and.
43:26
Speaker 2: People are like, where's the rest of the files?
43:28
Speaker 1: Well, guess what, though, new evidence can be released and
43:31
Speaker 1: the Congress can do their part to subpoena these folks
43:35
Speaker 1: and get new evidence that could possibly lead to more
43:38
Speaker 1: arrests and indictments based on Epstein. So at least this
43:42
Speaker 1: is a positive step of Republicans doing something. And I
43:45
Speaker 1: really like to see the fact that they're like, oh,
43:46
Speaker 1: it's Trump hiding and Trump hiding and it's a cover up.
43:49
Speaker 2: Well guess what we issue these subpoenas. Look whose name's
43:51
Speaker 2: on it. It's not Trump's name, right, right?
43:55
Speaker 5: And they also you know the fact that they subpoenaed
43:58
Speaker 5: the DOJ files on the Epstein case and the communications
44:03
Speaker 5: that the Biden regime was having internally about the case.
44:07
Speaker 5: Those have been subpoena from the DOJ as well. But look,
44:09
Speaker 5: you know, one of the things that Bob's about all
44:12
Speaker 5: the stuff is it's done behind closed doors, right, So
44:15
Speaker 5: we're not going to hear this testimony. We're not probably
44:18
Speaker 5: not going to know any of the substance from within.
44:22
Speaker 5: I mean, this is the same oversight committee that was
44:28
Speaker 5: working during the Biden regime on various cases and the
44:31
Speaker 5: Hunter Biden laptop and such and what came of that,
44:35
Speaker 5: all the crimes that we found in that laptop, and
44:38
Speaker 5: nobody was ever held accountable over any of that. So
44:41
Speaker 5: you know, I don't put a ton of faith in
44:45
Speaker 5: anything that this committee does. I'm hoping that I'm proven wrong.
44:48
Speaker 5: I mean, really, I don't mind to eat my words, please,
44:50
Speaker 5: Like I want Jamie Coomer to get to the point
44:54
Speaker 5: where somebody that he brings in is going to end
44:57
Speaker 5: up in prison, because that's how this is supposed to wear.
45:00
Speaker 5: The American people aren't buying the Dog and Pony show anymore, man.
45:03
Speaker 5: They just they know it's smoked.
45:05
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, speaking of testimony, I mean, what do you
45:07
Speaker 1: think about them unsealing this Maxwell testimony. Do you think
45:10
Speaker 1: that's more smoke and mirrors or do you think we
45:12
Speaker 1: might get something from it.
45:15
Speaker 5: I don't expect anything from that at all. I'm actually
45:16
Speaker 5: saying that from the beginning, just a sort of you know,
45:19
Speaker 5: like raining expectations over this story grand jury. I mean,
45:25
Speaker 5: you can indict a ham sand which you know that
45:27
Speaker 5: you're an attorney. Do you know that it doesn't take much, right,
45:31
Speaker 5: I don't think. I don't think that much is going
45:34
Speaker 5: to come out of it, and honestly, I don't expect
45:36
Speaker 5: it to ever or maybe let's not say ever, but
45:39
Speaker 5: in the near future. I don't see this being released
45:42
Speaker 5: under any circumstance. I mean, you had Gelaane Maxwell opposing
45:47
Speaker 5: that request today for a court filing, and victims have
45:51
Speaker 5: come out and said that they don't want it released either.
45:54
Speaker 5: So I don't see under any circumstance why it would
45:58
Speaker 5: actually be released. I mean, the dealk is plenty of
46:01
Speaker 5: other fliles where they can release they don't need just
46:03
Speaker 5: brain jury testimony.
46:04
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true.
46:05
Speaker 1: I think the wedge here and this has been the
46:06
Speaker 1: complicated part for our side has been the fact that
46:11
Speaker 1: you know, people have gone to jail, you know Epstein
46:13
Speaker 1: and Maxwell, and you know Epstein is no longer with
46:16
Speaker 1: us for one reason or another. But people want more accountability.
46:20
Speaker 1: And it's hard because you know, you have Cash Metel
46:23
Speaker 1: and Danpongino, and I have total faith in them saying
46:26
Speaker 1: there is nothing else.
46:27
Speaker 2: But it doesn't mean there can't be more.
46:29
Speaker 1: But the issue is so much great things are happening
46:33
Speaker 1: between all of Trump's accomplishments, the historic piece deals all
46:36
Speaker 1: around the world, and then we have this this DOJ
46:39
Speaker 1: release about these this Obama gaate, which is the biggest
46:42
Speaker 1: scandal in political history, at least modern history, and yet
46:46
Speaker 1: everything keeps going back to Epstein. Now, as excited as
46:48
Speaker 1: I am about the subpoenas going out, maybe well, I mean, look,
46:51
Speaker 1: they're not going to respond, But the fact is we're
46:54
Speaker 1: shifting the focus to democrats. You know, maybe this will
46:58
Speaker 1: take some of the attention off of what the media
47:01
Speaker 1: is trying to pin on Trump.
47:02
Speaker 2: But I'll say this, and you're exactly right.
47:03
Speaker 1: Nick, what I am worried about is if nothing comes
47:06
Speaker 1: of this, is it another opportunity for people to be like, see,
47:10
Speaker 1: they're not actually doing anything right.
47:11
Speaker 2: This can inevitably put the.
47:13
Speaker 1: Epstein back into the talking points of the nightly news
47:16
Speaker 1: and start hurting Trump again when we're pivoting to this
47:18
Speaker 1: Obama skin right.
47:20
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I mean it's given like the whole thing
47:23
Speaker 5: has been just a terrible mess since the beginning. And
47:25
Speaker 5: you know, I'm one of the biggest Trump supporters on
47:27
Speaker 5: the planet. You know, was with him all the way
47:29
Speaker 5: from that Golden escallator all the way down. But I
47:32
Speaker 5: don't like the way that Pam Bondi has handled the situation.
47:35
Speaker 5: I mean, you don't. We already had very little state
47:38
Speaker 5: in the justice system and the Department of Justice in particular,
47:41
Speaker 5: and then when she comes on, she was hit really
47:44
Speaker 5: hard for this. It's a reason you haven't seen her
47:45
Speaker 5: on Fox News much anymore, right because that whole over
47:49
Speaker 5: promised underdelivery aspect of everything that's been going on these
47:53
Speaker 5: past several weeks with the Epstein Flioles, like, we still
47:57
Speaker 5: don't have the answer to was Pam bond be lying?
48:01
Speaker 5: Was she just like over exaggerating what she has? Is
48:07
Speaker 5: there really nothing there? We don't have the answer to
48:09
Speaker 5: that question, so, you know, and I don't think Americans
48:14
Speaker 5: are going to be satisfied with any answer to that
48:18
Speaker 5: question without seeing some sort of evidence of it. Yeah,
48:21
Speaker 5: if there's nothing exciting there, just release it. That's the thing,
48:25
Speaker 5: you know.
48:26
Speaker 2: I can't.
48:27
Speaker 5: I can't defend this action. I really can't. As what
48:29
Speaker 5: as I want to, I can't.
48:30
Speaker 2: Well, we'll have to stick her. We'll have to stay
48:32
Speaker 2: tuned and see, you know what develops from this.
48:34
Speaker 1: I'm going to remain optimistic, uh for now, We'll see
48:38
Speaker 1: what happens. Nick, Thank you so much for joining. Great work.
48:41
Speaker 1: As always, I'm always following your stuff. Everybody should follow you.
48:44
Speaker 1: And if they wanted to do that to get all
48:45
Speaker 1: the information, where should they go.
48:48
Speaker 4: On?
48:49
Speaker 5: Accidentally use the other platforms because they pretty body just
48:51
Speaker 5: banned me fake news or whatever ends up being right
48:54
Speaker 5: like Trump ninety percent of the time. So at Nicks order,
48:56
Speaker 5: N I C K S R T O R. I
48:58
Speaker 5: appreciate you, David.
48:58
Speaker 2: Yeah, everybody should go far. Nick, thank you so much
49:00
Speaker 2: for joining. Hi figure stick around.
49:04
Speaker 1: Up next, former Michigan Attorney General Mike Cox is joining
49:08
Speaker 1: the crowded Republican governor's race, looking to succeed term limited.
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51:37
Speaker 1: The detestable Governor of Michigan, Gretchen Whitmer, continues to postpone
51:43
Speaker 1: a special election of phil the vacant thirty fifth State
51:47
Speaker 1: Senate seat, which has been empty since Kristin McDonald rivett
51:50
Speaker 1: resigned to join Congress in January twenty twenty five. Republicans
51:54
Speaker 1: are blasting Whitmer, claiming she's deliberately delaying the vote to
51:58
Speaker 1: protect the narrow nineteen to eighteen Democrat majority in the
52:02
Speaker 1: Michigan Senate. The governor has previously called special elections promptly
52:06
Speaker 1: in other situations, but has remained silent in this instance.
52:11
Speaker 1: Imagine that the thirty thirty fifth district is a competitive
52:15
Speaker 1: swing district and if a Republican were to win in
52:18
Speaker 1: a low turnout special election, it could lead to a
52:20
Speaker 1: tied Senate, potentially shifting power to the GOP.
52:36
Speaker 2: And that brings us to tonight's candidate spotlight.
52:40
Speaker 1: Former Michigan Attorney General Mike Cox is joining the crowded
52:43
Speaker 1: Republican governor's race, looking to succeed term limited Democrat Governor
52:48
Speaker 1: Gretchen Whitmer. Cox served as Michigan's attorney general from two
52:52
Speaker 1: thousand and three to twenty eleven.
52:54
Speaker 2: His campaign theme is make Michigan great Again.
52:57
Speaker 1: In his announcement video, he emphasizes fight against radical politicians
53:02
Speaker 1: and woke bureaucrats.
53:04
Speaker 12: A generation ago, my dad, an Irish immigrant, walked across
53:08
Speaker 12: the Blue Water Bridge to Michigan where he thought the
53:11
Speaker 12: streets were paved with gold. A Michigan where everyone could
53:14
Speaker 12: get a good job with good pay, buy a home,
53:17
Speaker 12: raise a family, good schools, safe streets, and the opportunity
53:20
Speaker 12: for every kid to do better than his parent. That's
53:23
Speaker 12: the Michigan I grew up in. We were taught to
53:26
Speaker 12: fight for what we believed in. That's why I joined
53:30
Speaker 12: the Marine Corps and became a homicide prosecutor to stand
53:34
Speaker 12: up for what is right, to never back down. But
53:37
Speaker 12: bad politicians with worse ideas are destroying our Michigan. Made
53:41
Speaker 12: it harder to work, harder to learn, made us less safe.
53:46
Speaker 12: I'm tired of being told we can't lead anymore, that
53:49
Speaker 12: we should accept less, aren't you. We are Michigan, the strong,
53:55
Speaker 12: the tough, we build. We are the land of great
53:58
Speaker 12: lakes and great dreams. We need to stop taxing work,
54:02
Speaker 12: eliminate the income tax, restore right to work. Those regulations
54:08
Speaker 12: make it easier to find that good job or build
54:11
Speaker 12: that new business here in Michigan. We need to start
54:15
Speaker 12: teaching our kids the ABC's instead of DEI.
54:19
Speaker 13: Let's grade our schools so every kid can read and write.
54:23
Speaker 13: Give parents the right to choose the best school for
54:26
Speaker 13: their kids. I've protected people my entire life, fought and
54:30
Speaker 13: beat the worst of the worst.
54:33
Speaker 1: Joining me now is Michigan gubernatorial candidate Mike Cox.
54:38
Speaker 2: Welcome to the.
54:38
Speaker 5: Show, David. Great being here with you.
54:41
Speaker 1: Well, thank you so much for joining, and look I
54:43
Speaker 1: see you in your campaign headquarters. You're working hard to
54:46
Speaker 1: try to take Michigan back, you said you're gonna make
54:49
Speaker 1: Michigan great again. Tell me why are you running, What
54:52
Speaker 1: is in this for you? And what do you want
54:54
Speaker 1: to see come out of this race?
54:55
Speaker 2: Obviously a week now.
54:57
Speaker 13: Obviously you know, David, you're from the great state Florida.
55:01
Speaker 13: When my parents came to Michigan a generation go. They're
55:04
Speaker 13: both immigrants, legal immigrants. My mom's still alive. Michigan was
55:09
Speaker 13: the greatest place to be in America. And now, as
55:12
Speaker 13: football coaches say, you know your record is, you are
55:16
Speaker 13: what your record is? We are second and unemployment, our
55:21
Speaker 13: fourth grade reading scores are worst and all but two
55:24
Speaker 13: other states.
55:25
Speaker 12: But we still have a tremendous state.
55:27
Speaker 13: We have tremendous ass Actually, we have more coastline than Florida.
55:31
Speaker 13: We have ten thousand lakes, four great Lakes, international border,
55:36
Speaker 13: and you know, we should be able to compete with anyone.
55:40
Speaker 13: But the leadership and Lansing, the legislature, the governor, they've
55:44
Speaker 13: sagged us down and they are the cause for the
55:47
Speaker 13: people Michigan being left behind. And I'm going to change that.
55:51
Speaker 2: Yeah, what a shae.
55:52
Speaker 1: Michigan is such a great state, you know, the heart
55:55
Speaker 1: of America literally, and look what the Democrats have done
55:59
Speaker 1: to that state and to the manufacturing sector, which will
56:02
Speaker 1: improve thanks to the big Beautiful Bill. And we'll talk
56:04
Speaker 1: about that later on this week in the show, and
56:06
Speaker 1: we will talk about this in the interview as well.
56:07
Speaker 1: But I mean, you've said, make Michigan great again. Are
56:10
Speaker 1: you trying to emulate Trump's success nationally and bring those
56:15
Speaker 1: conservative America First, Michigan first principles to your.
56:18
Speaker 13: State one hundred percent? You know, I come from a
56:22
Speaker 13: union family and my dad was a Union carpenter. My
56:25
Speaker 13: brother in law right now is a dearborn truck plan
56:28
Speaker 13: a uaw Ford employee, building F one fifties. What's more
56:32
Speaker 13: American than that? And I have to tell you that
56:34
Speaker 13: the people my brother works with, they love Donald Trump.
56:37
Speaker 13: Why is it because he speaks the truth to power.
56:40
Speaker 13: You know, he doesn't sugarcoat it. He's direct, and he's
56:43
Speaker 13: all about making the changes necessary to make America great again.
56:48
Speaker 13: And I'm about making the changes necessary to make Michigan
56:52
Speaker 13: great again. For instance, do you know that the only
56:55
Speaker 13: state over the past five years it's racist income tax
56:59
Speaker 13: has been Missichigan under Governor Whitmer. I want to join
57:03
Speaker 13: the great state of Florida and Texas, New Hampshire and
57:07
Speaker 13: so many others. Now ten states that have totally eliminated
57:10
Speaker 13: the tax on work. You know, bureaucrats call it the
57:14
Speaker 13: income tax, but working men and women know it's a
57:17
Speaker 13: tax on them. And growing up in an immigrant family,
57:21
Speaker 13: the son of a union carpent, there is nothing more
57:23
Speaker 13: important you could do than to work. And so why
57:26
Speaker 13: is it that Michigan taxes worked first. It's an impression
57:30
Speaker 13: upon the working men and women of Michigan. And I'm
57:33
Speaker 13: going to unshackle the people of Michigan by eliminating the
57:37
Speaker 13: tax on work and letting the great job creators and
57:40
Speaker 13: the great men and women of Michigan work their way
57:43
Speaker 13: out of this one state recession that Gretchen Whitmer is
57:47
Speaker 13: putting Michigan in.
57:48
Speaker 1: Look, people love to move to states with no income tax,
57:51
Speaker 1: I mean, especially retirees. And like you mentioned, Michigan is
57:53
Speaker 1: a lot of coastline.
57:54
Speaker 2: It's a lot warm, it's.
57:55
Speaker 1: A lot cooler in the summer than is in Florida.
57:58
Speaker 1: But let me you know, you're going to get some critics.
58:00
Speaker 1: People are going to say, oh, if you're a take
58:02
Speaker 1: away the income tax, what else are you going to
58:04
Speaker 1: tax instead, how do you replace that revenue?
58:06
Speaker 13: Well, it's as simple as this, David. People ask me
58:09
Speaker 13: when I'm campaign, how can we afford to eliminate the
58:12
Speaker 13: income text? But the reality is how can we afford
58:14
Speaker 13: not to? Because the fastest growing states in America are
58:18
Speaker 13: doing this? But for context, for context, do you know
58:21
Speaker 13: that under Gretchen Whitmer, Michigan's budget has grown forty five
58:25
Speaker 13: percent forty five percent in just six years. In fact,
58:30
Speaker 13: it's grown almost twenty six billion dollars. Yet to eliminate
58:35
Speaker 13: the tax on work and Michigan will only costs half
58:37
Speaker 13: that thirteen billion dollars. So it really is about getting
58:41
Speaker 13: rid of government waste. For instance, Gretchen Whitmer has grown
58:45
Speaker 13: the workforce in Michigan by five thousand employees, So instead
58:49
Speaker 13: of letting the private sector grow, she's increased the burden
58:53
Speaker 13: on the private sector by how hiring more government employees
58:57
Speaker 13: while Michigan is shrinking. To me, that's just asked backwards,
59:01
Speaker 13: And I'm going to change that job number one when
59:04
Speaker 13: I'm Michigan's governor starting January one of twenty twenty seven.
59:08
Speaker 1: Now, Mike, if people want to follow your campaign and
59:10
Speaker 1: learn about your policies.
59:11
Speaker 2: Where can they go?
59:13
Speaker 13: First and foremost, go to Mike Cox twenty twenty six
59:17
Speaker 13: Really easy, Mike Cox Mik E. Cox twenty twenty six
59:21
Speaker 13: dot com and there you're going to see fifty pages
59:24
Speaker 13: of policy and solutions at revolutionizing education in Michigan and
59:28
Speaker 13: unleashing the power of working men.
59:30
Speaker 2: And women in Michigan.
59:32
Speaker 13: Or you can just follow me on x It's Mike
59:36
Speaker 13: Underscore Cox Cox Perfect.
59:38
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining. Good luck to you
59:40
Speaker 1: in your efforts to make Michigan great again.
59:43
Speaker 2: We're all rooting for you.
59:44
Speaker 13: Thank you, David, Take care and have a great night YouTube.
59:46
Speaker 2: Thanks for joining.
59:48
Speaker 1: Before we say goodnight, we wanted to let you know
59:50
Speaker 1: about some special guests joining us tomorrow on a huge show.
59:55
Speaker 1: Republican strategist and host of The Stone Zone Roger Stone
59:59
Speaker 1: isjoining us, Plus Congresswoman Lisa mcclan and Congressman Rob Breshnan
1:00:05
Speaker 1: is joining us to discuss historic wins for Americans in
1:00:09
Speaker 1: the One Big, Beautiful Bill that's tomorrow beginning at eight eastern,
1:00:12
Speaker 1: five Pacific. That's going to do it for us on
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Speaker 1: this episode of Real America. We're all at a time.
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Speaker 1: Thank you so much. For joining again. I'm David Pollock,
1:00:23
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