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29. From Burnout to Belonging: Healing Heart Place Hospital & Soul-Led Healthcare with Jacqui O’Connor · Constellations and all that...

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  Tracy Cartwright: Kiona and welcome to Constellations and all that.
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  Tracy Cartwright: I'm your host, Tracy Cartwright, and together we will be exploring the world of family constellations with facilitators for and clients from around the world, looking at different perspectives and experiences in the work, having a cup of tea, and just chatting with some friends around their experiences in constellations.
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  Tracy Cartwright: We'd love for you to join us.
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  Tracy Cartwright: I hope that you enjoy this series as much as I have loved making it.
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  Tracy Cartwright: Hi everyone.
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  Tracy Cartwright: Welcome to Constellations and all that.
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  Tracy Cartwright: Today I have the pleasure of chatting with my friend Jacqui O'Connor hey Jacqui . How are you doing?
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  Tracy Cartwright: I'm great.
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  Tracy Cartwright: Thanks Tracy.
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  Tracy Cartwright: How are you?
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  Tracy Cartwright: Great.
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  Tracy Cartwright: And so as you know, I know you've listened to my podcasts or some of my podcasts that I don't do a formal introduction.
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  Tracy Cartwright: I invite my guests to share whatever it is that they wanna share about themselves, who they are, where they're from, whatever comes up for you right here and now.
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  Tracy Cartwright: So I'm gonna hand it over to you so you can introduce yourself in whatever way you feel.
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  Jacqui O'Connor: Thank you.
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  Jacqui O'Connor: I guess I'm a multidimensional being on, uh, living on this moving ball of energy, trying to navigate all the curve balls and the.
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  Jacqui O'Connor: The joys that it brings.
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  Jacqui O'Connor: I consider myself a visionary, a creative, a, create tricks.
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  Jacqui O'Connor: I just, and it's very soul led, uh, very community driven, soul led, and got lots of breadcrumbs that have led me to this point.
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  Jacqui O'Connor: I guess I've come from a caring background, so I've been a registered nurse for 30 years.
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  Jacqui O'Connor: I've been a mom, I've, I'm a wife and I'm a hope merchant and a joy seeker.
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  Jacqui O'Connor: Yeah.
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  Jacqui O'Connor: Yeah.
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  Jacqui O'Connor: I love dancing.
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  Jacqui O'Connor: I love looking at beautiful things, and I love hanging out with people that smile.
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  Jacqui O'Connor: That's what I love.
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  Tracy Cartwright: Beautiful.
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  Tracy Cartwright: How does being a multidimensional being, how does that fit into being a nurse like
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  Jacqui O'Connor: Yeah.
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  Tracy Cartwright: Side of things,
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  Jacqui O'Connor: I guess I've stepped out of the traditional role and a part of what's probably attracted you to have me speak today is, is I've created heart place hospital.
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  Jacqui O'Connor: So really creating a, an example of how we can still be these multidimensional beings, but, but, but in places where we are valued and uh, where we.
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  Jacqui O'Connor: Can keep others warm without burning ourselves out.
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  Jacqui O'Connor: So yeah, it didn't fit.
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  Jacqui O'Connor: I didn't fit, I didn't fit.
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  Jacqui O'Connor: And I tried for many decades to fit.
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  Jacqui O'Connor: And now I'm, I'm discovering that I belong.
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  Jacqui O'Connor: I know where I belong and, um, there's so many more people that are looking for places to belong.
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  Jacqui O'Connor: So I've created that soft, safe sanctuary of belonging.
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  Tracy Cartwright: Beautiful.
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  Tracy Cartwright: Yeah.
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  Tracy Cartwright: I'm, but, and, and as you are talking, I'm thinking, imagine waking up to your shining face if you've come outta surgery or if you are on the ward, it would've been just like a beam of light.
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  Jacqui O'Connor: Yeah, I guess I, I mean, I
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  Tracy Cartwright: radiate so much energy.
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  Tracy Cartwright: It's like, wow.
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  Jacqui O'Connor: Yeah.
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  Jacqui O'Connor: Thank you for seeing that in me.
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  Jacqui O'Connor: Yeah, I loved it.
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  Jacqui O'Connor: I loved it.
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  Jacqui O'Connor: I loved it.
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  Jacqui O'Connor: I loved it.
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  Jacqui O'Connor: And I guess I look back now and I think, gosh, how did I do it?
• 3:12
  Jacqui O'Connor: You know, like working in those concrete buildings and mm-hmm.
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  Jacqui O'Connor: With that sort of energy, um, I must have been an absolute fricking rock star to get through it, but I didn't think that at the time, so that was unfortunate and I just didn't.
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  Jacqui O'Connor: Have any other examples or conversations?
• 3:28
  Jacqui O'Connor: Um, now I do all the time.
• 3:29
  Tracy Cartwright: Yeah.
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  Tracy Cartwright: Yeah.
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  Tracy Cartwright: Um,
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  Jacqui O'Connor: yeah.
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  Jacqui O'Connor: Yeah, and I just, that's why I just think it's just so important, this work.
• 3:35
  Jacqui O'Connor: It's a ride or die for me, really.
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  Jacqui O'Connor: Um, because I just can see the ripple effect, like you say, you know, imagine waking up, imagine being in a vulnerable position like that and having someone who's.
• 3:46
  Jacqui O'Connor: Frequency's high and their energy's high, and they're, and they're saying that, you know, Hey, I'm here to guide you and walk alongside you.
• 3:53
  Jacqui O'Connor: Um, yeah, absolutely.
• 3:55
  Tracy Cartwright: Yeah, because, 'cause for me, and this is way left of Center from Constellations, but being a seer and having that active in my life, the first time I ever had an operation, um, I was, ooh, in my early forties, and I woke up and I could see other things in the room.
• 4:16
  Tracy Cartwright: Some people would say it might've been the drugs I was on.
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  Tracy Cartwright: Well, that might've helped me open to that with the things that I was seeing in there.
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  Tracy Cartwright: And I was saying to others, can you not see them?
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  Tracy Cartwright: Like, can you not see these?
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  Tracy Cartwright: So it had opened me to another layer in that space.
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  Tracy Cartwright: And so all the different energies is what I'm coming to.
• 4:35
  Tracy Cartwright: All the different energies that are in the hospital areas and stuff like that.
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  Tracy Cartwright: I was just told the other day.
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  Tracy Cartwright: Ang hospitals actually built on a PA sites so that, you know, a PA being where the community was, right, that would've been like the village site.
• 4:50
  Tracy Cartwright: And so there would be and stuff there as well.
• 4:52
  Tracy Cartwright: And all of that has been cleared to make the hospital.
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  Tracy Cartwright: And none of those, there'll still be the residue of the NU that are in those places, but if is probably only one of many throughout the country and probably many throughout the globe that are built on sacred sites.
• 5:10
  Tracy Cartwright: Um, spaces that, um, the energy is not always conducive to what is going on in the building.
• 5:19
  Tracy Cartwright: That makes sense.
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  Tracy Cartwright: Yeah.
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  Jacqui O'Connor: Well, I guess, and you think about, you know, the food that we feed and even, even just the environments that it's set up, you know, like it's, it's very sterile.
• 5:30
  Jacqui O'Connor: It's very, there's sort of not a very healing bright.
• 5:34
  Tracy Cartwright: Mm-hmm.
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  Jacqui O'Connor: Conducive environments.
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  Jacqui O'Connor: And then, and then you think a bit about the amount of people that come in and out, you know, moving and in and out.
• 5:44
  Jacqui O'Connor: And for us, highly sensitives.
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  Jacqui O'Connor: That's, that's a lot, you know, that's a lot that we, we, that end up sticking on us.
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  Jacqui O'Connor: And unless we have.
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  Jacqui O'Connor: Any idea of how to release those energies or those emotions that aren't ours, then you know, then, then the people that are working there, coming in and out, it's a busy train station.
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  Tracy Cartwright: Yeah, and that's when they need you.
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  Tracy Cartwright: Right.
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  Tracy Cartwright: They need to space hard place hospital, so yeah.
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  Tracy Cartwright: Correct.
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  Jacqui O'Connor: Yeah.
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  Jacqui O'Connor: Correct.
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  Jacqui O'Connor: Yeah.
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  Jacqui O'Connor: So, um, yeah, and we, we meet people where they're at.
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  Jacqui O'Connor: So, um, if even talking about energy is really so completely foreign, we can, we can meet you with, you know, some self care and, and support your nervous system so that you can start having those conversations.
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  Jacqui O'Connor: But if you're ready to tackle some mindset stuff, some limiting beliefs around.
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  Jacqui O'Connor: So often people are choosing their paychecks over their moral compass, over their own health.
• 6:37
  Tracy Cartwright: Yeah.
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  Tracy Cartwright: So
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  Jacqui O'Connor: we can help with that.
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  Jacqui O'Connor: And then if you're looking to craft a life that actually suits your human design and that you can show up as the most radiant being, multidimensional being and, and do what you are here to do.
• 6:51
  Jacqui O'Connor: Um, and like I said, you know, keep others warm without actually burning yourself out.
• 6:56
  Jacqui O'Connor: Um, but that's not a lot of our frontline workers are ending up being.
• 7:02
  Jacqui O'Connor: Needing help, but I'm really excited, I love sharing this.
• 7:05
  Jacqui O'Connor: Part of the story is that, you know, um, half the people that we support, we call them visitors, not patients or clients, because bringing back the etiology of hospital is the welcoming and of visitors.
• 7:16
  Jacqui O'Connor: Our visitors are coming now because they don't want to burn out.
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  Jacqui O'Connor: They actually like, actually, yeah.
• 7:22
  Jacqui O'Connor: Wow.
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  Jacqui O'Connor: Yeah.
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  Jacqui O'Connor: Before the,
• 7:23
  Tracy Cartwright: before the, um, ambulance at the cliff, right?
• 7:25
  Tracy Cartwright: Yeah.
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  Tracy Cartwright: It just up on the cliff edge, but not on the.
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  Jacqui O'Connor: Yeah.
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  Jacqui O'Connor: Yeah.
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  Jacqui O'Connor: Which is super exciting.
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  Jacqui O'Connor: And then, um, yeah, our model is we have visitors, we that often turn into service providers, um, and then the service providers always stay as visitors.
• 7:40
  Jacqui O'Connor: So, you know, bringing it back to Constellation, you know, all of us we're, it's a journey, right?
• 7:47
  Jacqui O'Connor: So it's the, we've, none of us have met the destination unless we've we're on the other side.
• 7:54
  Jacqui O'Connor: Yeah.
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  Jacqui O'Connor: We've been Rebirthed.
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  Jacqui O'Connor: Case in point, I still have, um, a very.
• 7:58
  Jacqui O'Connor: Active healing round table that I access and we meet each other in partnership agreement.
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  Jacqui O'Connor: You know, we meet with my expertise and then with their expertise.
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  Jacqui O'Connor: And that's really a real twist on our current, our system, which is still very much, you know, a lot of people are going in and wanting to be fixed and those that are providing the support, um, have a lot of them have mindset that they're the fixer.
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  Jacqui O'Connor: Yeah.
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  Jacqui O'Connor: Don't you have a magic pill?
• 8:29
  Tracy Cartwright: Isn't that the question that people often ask?
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  Tracy Cartwright: The only
• 8:32
  Jacqui O'Connor: place, the only place is your heart place is what I don't want.
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  Jacqui O'Connor: Yeah,
• 8:37
  Tracy Cartwright: perfect.
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  Tracy Cartwright: Yeah.
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  Jacqui O'Connor: Yeah.
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  Jacqui O'Connor: It's the panacea.
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  Jacqui O'Connor: I just know and feel I have been being a frontline worker for, for decades is that, um, we heal one healer and then you, and then you've healed a real big community.
• 8:48
  Jacqui O'Connor: You know, our frontline workers are in front of 30, 40 of our most vulnerable citizens a day.
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  Jacqui O'Connor: And then when they go home to their families of.
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  Jacqui O'Connor: Multiple numbers.
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  Jacqui O'Connor: Um, the ripple effects just so much faster than an US If we're just putting TV ads out there saying, you know, bring it back to yourself.
• 9:05
  Tracy Cartwright: Good.
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  Tracy Cartwright: Those things are good.
• 9:06
  Tracy Cartwright: Get, don't get me wrong.
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  Tracy Cartwright: Yes.
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  Tracy Cartwright: Because they, they're the start for some people, right?
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  Jacqui O'Connor: Yeah.
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  Jacqui O'Connor: Yeah.
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  Jacqui O'Connor: But when we are, when we're in front of someone who's, who has that multi, you know, that multifaceted, um, knowledge and they're are most trusted.
• 9:19
  Jacqui O'Connor: Um, roles of people in frontline roles, you know, in health and education.
• 9:23
  Jacqui O'Connor: There.
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  Jacqui O'Connor: Any study will show.
• 9:25
  Jacqui O'Connor: You're talking
• 9:26
  Tracy Cartwright: doctors, midwives, nurses.
• 9:27
  Jacqui O'Connor: Yep.
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  Jacqui O'Connor: Teachers.
• 9:30
  Tracy Cartwright: Teachers, yeah.
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  Tracy Cartwright: Yeah.
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  Jacqui O'Connor: All those kind of, sort of traditional and
• 9:33
  Tracy Cartwright: support workers and stuff like that.
• 9:35
  Tracy Cartwright: Is
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  Jacqui O'Connor: that Yep, yep.
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  Jacqui O'Connor: So those who are doing in-home care.
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  Jacqui O'Connor: And those who are doing more natural, um, modalities so you know what you do.
• 9:44
  Jacqui O'Connor: Um, and, you know, more indigenous and, um, innate wisdom modalities.
• 9:49
  Jacqui O'Connor: So, because I, I just really know this is a knowing that if we can be met with our needs, um, and, and everyone has different needs, then everybody's welcome.
• 9:59
  Jacqui O'Connor: Yeah, everybody's supported.
• 10:01
  Jacqui O'Connor: And,
• 10:02
  Tracy Cartwright: and
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  Jacqui O'Connor: really because you
• 10:02
  Tracy Cartwright: feel seen, right?
• 10:04
  Tracy Cartwright: Because even though your needs are different to someone else's.
• 10:07
  Tracy Cartwright: So I couldn't stop along, even if I feel like I'm different and
• 10:11
  Jacqui O'Connor: Yeah.
• 10:12
  Jacqui O'Connor: Yeah, yeah.
• 10:12
  Jacqui O'Connor: And even myself, like I've had huge transitions in the last year and I needed different people in my.
• 10:20
  Jacqui O'Connor: Um, in my corner and their expertise, and they could meet me where I was at.
• 10:26
  Jacqui O'Connor: And, and it was exactly that I was being seen.
• 10:28
  Jacqui O'Connor: And that's like constantly when we, our visitors, like, just give us feedback all the time.
• 10:33
  Jacqui O'Connor: Wow, I can't believe we found, you can't believe we found you.
• 10:36
  Jacqui O'Connor: And, and this is what I was looking for nine years ago.
• 10:39
  Jacqui O'Connor: I was looking for this.
• 10:40
  Jacqui O'Connor: So every time I sort of doubt myself or imposter syndrome or anything like that, it will kind of, um, get overwhelmed, which happens.
• 10:47
  Jacqui O'Connor: I just think about me nine years ago, and I just keep thinking this is what I was looking for.
• 10:51
  Jacqui O'Connor: And if someone had said, look, there's this lady Heart Place Hospital, reach out to her.
• 10:56
  Jacqui O'Connor: I would've just, I would've reached out, I would've sprinted.
• 11:00
  Jacqui O'Connor: And um, I hear you.
• 11:01
  Jacqui O'Connor: Yeah.
• 11:02
  Jacqui O'Connor: Yeah.
• 11:02
  Jacqui O'Connor: That's,
• 11:02
  Tracy Cartwright: that's kind of, that's kind of why I'm creating what I'm creating, because there was nothing.
• 11:07
  Jacqui O'Connor: Exactly.
• 11:08
  Jacqui O'Connor: Yeah.
• 11:08
  Jacqui O'Connor: And I was similar to you.
• 11:09
  Jacqui O'Connor: I had my first surgery at four years old and I woke up from that procedure looking down on myself and, um, yeah, it was, it was freaky.
• 11:20
  Jacqui O'Connor: You know, like I was four and then, and those things continue to happen and, and I'm really passionate about us really giving people some space so that we don't actually pathologize and medicalize everything that we can actually just go, huh, curious.
• 11:34
  Jacqui O'Connor: That's interesting.
• 11:35
  Jacqui O'Connor: And that's, that could.
• 11:36
  Jacqui O'Connor: Maybe that's something quite mystical or something that, you know, unseen and, and let's put it on the table and let's not, um, necessarily pathologize and medicalize you on this because this is interesting.
• 11:49
  Jacqui O'Connor: This is curious.
• 11:50
  Tracy Cartwright: Yeah.
• 11:51
  Tracy Cartwright: Do you find that a lot of the visitors that come through struggle to ask for help?
• 11:58
  Jacqui O'Connor: I did, I'm finding them actually getting better and better and I don't know, I think like a lot of them have been following my messages for a long time.
• 12:06
  Jacqui O'Connor: And, and I, and I can actually relate to this 'cause I've done this too.
• 12:09
  Jacqui O'Connor: I follow people for a long time, then gone actually, you know, it's, now's the right time.
• 12:13
  Jacqui O'Connor: It cracks me up a lot.
• 12:15
  Jacqui O'Connor: Like I think about how I've been speaking like this for several years now, and now it's.
• 12:21
  Jacqui O'Connor: Becoming more normalized.
• 12:23
  Jacqui O'Connor: Mm-hmm.
• 12:23
  Jacqui O'Connor: Um, so I did, and I was the same.
• 12:27
  Jacqui O'Connor: It was really hard for me to ask for help and I was the help, but I'm noticing a difference now that people, um, yeah,
• 12:34
  Tracy Cartwright: yeah.
• 12:34
  Tracy Cartwright: People are starting to take notice of themselves, right?
• 12:37
  Tracy Cartwright: Yeah.
• 12:37
  Jacqui O'Connor: I, I, I do.
• 12:38
  Jacqui O'Connor: I do.
• 12:39
  Jacqui O'Connor: And, um, I just think it's becoming quite normalized that, you know, like synchronicities and, and.
• 12:46
  Jacqui O'Connor: Um, people are, feel, you know, are talking about feelings or being mindful or intuition.
• 12:52
  Jacqui O'Connor: I, I, I'm finding that's just becoming more normalized.
• 12:54
  Jacqui O'Connor: Whereas when I started in, in those things, I knew, I knew that's what I was experiencing, but it was, I had to really dig around to find anything, you know, a podcast, a book or anything, uh, around that.
• 13:05
  Jacqui O'Connor: But I think the communities are growing and, and I. I feel it's happening because it is really challenging to get into your gp.
• 13:13
  Jacqui O'Connor: It's really challenging to get to see, be seen.
• 13:17
  Jacqui O'Connor: I mean, um, in New Zealand, you know, our waiting lists, uh, week, like, like a year long if you're lucky to get on the waiting list.
• 13:26
  Jacqui O'Connor: So there are some Well, the hospitals and stuff Yeah.
• 13:29
  Jacqui O'Connor: For the Yeah, they're right.
• 13:30
  Jacqui O'Connor: That, that's right.
• 13:31
  Jacqui O'Connor: Um, even
• 13:32
  Tracy Cartwright: to get in to see a doctor, I think it was eight weeks.
• 13:34
  Jacqui O'Connor: Yeah, yeah.
• 13:35
  Jacqui O'Connor: See a doctor,
• 13:36
  Tracy Cartwright: so, so
• 13:37
  Jacqui O'Connor: people are getting curious now.
• 13:38
  Jacqui O'Connor: They're like, okay, so I can't get into my gp and I know that if I do, you know, I'm gonna want to leave with a prescription.
• 13:46
  Jacqui O'Connor: Am I seeing healthy people with prescriptions?
• 13:49
  Jacqui O'Connor: I. No, I'm not.
• 13:51
  Jacqui O'Connor: Am I seeing healthy people, for example, example you and I showing up who are talking quite differently about how to heal boundary wounds, how to advocate for ourselves and others, and how to craft that life that really truly suits our human design.
• 14:08
  Jacqui O'Connor: And so people are getting curious.
• 14:10
  Jacqui O'Connor: I'm finding people are getting curious.
• 14:12
  Tracy Cartwright: Do you know the flip side of that for me too is that through this work, and I've just shared it on my last, um, interview, I'm going in for a medical procedure.
• 14:22
  Tracy Cartwright: Mm-hmm.
• 14:22
  Tracy Cartwright: Now, the flip side of that is that I would've fought this and fought it and fought it.
• 14:27
  Tracy Cartwright: Mm-hmm.
• 14:28
  Tracy Cartwright: Till.
• 14:29
  Tracy Cartwright: I did with my gall bladder till it was shredded and there was nothing left to to deal with.
• 14:35
  Tracy Cartwright: And literally the doctor was like, this is completely shredded.
• 14:39
  Tracy Cartwright: But the shift in whatever's, you know, it's kind of like that asking for help, but in a different way.
• 14:43
  Tracy Cartwright: Something shifted for me that is saying, okay, now is the time that you can align because this is an injury I can get in quicker for a start.
• 14:53
  Tracy Cartwright: Mm-hmm.
• 14:53
  Tracy Cartwright: But it's a way that I can say yes to it in a. Different way to, I'm wanting this to fix me.
• 15:02
  Tracy Cartwright: Yeah.
• 15:02
  Tracy Cartwright: Which feels like I'm working through the emotions and the energetic side of things that have created this.
• 15:10
  Tracy Cartwright: Yeah.
• 15:10
  Tracy Cartwright: And then on a physical level, this is going to help with the other parts of it.
• 15:15
  Tracy Cartwright: So it is like, like you're saying, people are shifting, people are looking for something different and, and I've always been.
• 15:21
  Tracy Cartwright: On the alternative route and I've gone, actually, I think I'm gonna go the medical thing here.
• 15:27
  Tracy Cartwright: Yeah.
• 15:27
  Tracy Cartwright: And that's what I say
• 15:28
  Jacqui O'Connor: with Heart Place Hospital, we are integrative.
• 15:31
  Jacqui O'Connor: Yeah.
• 15:31
  Jacqui O'Connor: So yeah, like this, you know, there's amazing things in comp, in traditional health and, and I always say like, if I have a car accident and my arm gets ripped off, like I don't wanna be thinking happy thoughts and having a pedicure.
• 15:43
  Jacqui O'Connor: I wanna, I want medication, I want a surgeon.
• 15:46
  Jacqui O'Connor: Oh, my arm's gonna grow.
• 15:49
  Jacqui O'Connor: That's, we've comprehensive, that's the integrative care comes in, right?
• 15:53
  Jacqui O'Connor: So you've got all these amazing tools and you're gonna be able to integrate everything.
• 15:59
  Jacqui O'Connor: And, and I bet you anything that, you know, your recovery is so much faster and so much slicker.
• 16:05
  Jacqui O'Connor: And, um, I said
• 16:06
  Tracy Cartwright: to the doctor when we were looking, I said, oh, so what sort of music do you listen to?
• 16:10
  Tracy Cartwright: Because I, he goes, oh, why is that?
• 16:11
  Tracy Cartwright: I said, well, can I choose the music that you listen to while you're operating on me?
• 16:15
  Tracy Cartwright: He goes, oh, it depends.
• 16:17
  Tracy Cartwright: What it is.
• 16:18
  Tracy Cartwright: I said, well, it won't be death metal, but you know, he goes, well you, you know, you can have whatever you like to listen to while you're going under.
• 16:25
  Tracy Cartwright: Yeah.
• 16:26
  Tracy Cartwright: Otherwise your anesthetist chooses the music.
• 16:28
  Tracy Cartwright: It's like, might have a word with that Aneth.
• 16:30
  Jacqui O'Connor: Yeah, that's right.
• 16:31
  Jacqui O'Connor: Yeah.
• 16:32
  Jacqui O'Connor: Hey, my buddy, my choice.
• 16:35
  Jacqui O'Connor: Isn't that what we're telling our kids?
• 16:36
  Tracy Cartwright: Yeah.
• 16:37
  Tracy Cartwright: So,
• 16:37
  Jacqui O'Connor: yeah.
• 16:38
  Jacqui O'Connor: Yeah, yeah.
• 16:39
  Tracy Cartwright: Nice to know that there's those, I had a voice to say that, you know.
• 16:45
  Tracy Cartwright: Voice to say that the Oh,
• 16:47
  Jacqui O'Connor: yeah.
• 16:47
  Tracy Cartwright: Years ago, I would never have dared to say that.
• 16:50
  Jacqui O'Connor: No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
• 16:51
  Jacqui O'Connor: Yeah.
• 16:52
  Jacqui O'Connor: Yeah.
• 16:53
  Jacqui O'Connor: And that's, I mean, that's part of my journey.
• 16:54
  Jacqui O'Connor: I, I had, um, surgery as a child.
• 16:57
  Jacqui O'Connor: I had open heart surgery as a child, and you know, I was very much, there was no body autonomy or sovereignty or consent.
• 17:04
  Jacqui O'Connor: Mm-hmm.
• 17:05
  Jacqui O'Connor: And so, yeah, I've carried that.
• 17:07
  Jacqui O'Connor: I've had to really shift through that.
• 17:09
  Jacqui O'Connor: And that will be constant.
• 17:10
  Jacqui O'Connor: That'll be a constant onion layer of mine.
• 17:13
  Jacqui O'Connor: But you know, we're the bridges.
• 17:14
  Jacqui O'Connor: We're the bridges.
• 17:15
  Jacqui O'Connor: I was meant to experience that so that then I can show up in my more, um, wisdom years and, and create solutions.
• 17:22
  Jacqui O'Connor: And I'm really solution focused.
• 17:24
  Jacqui O'Connor: Like I'm just not even available.
• 17:25
  Jacqui O'Connor: I'm just not even, can't even.
• 17:27
  Jacqui O'Connor: Put any energy into fixing the old, I'm just here for it to create the new and, and it's exciting.
• 17:32
  Jacqui O'Connor: I, I think it's just really exciting times and, and I, I just keep adopting this energy at the moment is just sitting up in that eagles perch and watching the pantomime unfold and just keep watering the bamboo shoot.
• 17:43
  Jacqui O'Connor: So, so that, that bamboo, which, you know, bamboo once it, once it shoots, it's just, it just multiplies.
• 17:50
  Jacqui O'Connor: So it's really exciting to be part, many
• 17:52
  Tracy Cartwright: things you do with bamboo, right.
• 17:54
  Jacqui O'Connor: Yeah.
• 17:55
  Jacqui O'Connor: And it's really exciting to be part of the grassroots revolution.
• 17:58
  Jacqui O'Connor: Um, you know, it's not our first rodeo.
• 18:01
  Jacqui O'Connor: We've, we've revolted in the past, so we are back.
• 18:04
  Jacqui O'Connor: Yeah.
• 18:05
  Tracy Cartwright: How does, 'cause I know you have sponsors mm-hmm.
• 18:09
  Tracy Cartwright: That support you.
• 18:10
  Tracy Cartwright: Mm-hmm.
• 18:10
  Tracy Cartwright: How does that work for uh, those who wanna understand how they can, how they can support Heart place hospital?
• 18:16
  Jacqui O'Connor: Yeah.
• 18:16
  Jacqui O'Connor: Thank you.
• 18:17
  Jacqui O'Connor: Thank you for asking.
• 18:18
  Jacqui O'Connor: So we have fully registered charity.
• 18:21
  Jacqui O'Connor: And our model is very feminine focused, so it is a very circular economy.
• 18:26
  Jacqui O'Connor: So we have, like I said, the visitors, we, we have the service providers, and then we have our donors or supporters.
• 18:34
  Jacqui O'Connor: So our service providers are contracted, so they're under the umbrella of heart place, hospital, and every time.
• 18:41
  Jacqui O'Connor: They serve any of our visitors.
• 18:43
  Jacqui O'Connor: Then, um, sometimes that's funded.
• 18:46
  Jacqui O'Connor: We've got funding available.
• 18:47
  Jacqui O'Connor: Sometimes it's self-funded by the visitor, and the service providers donate back into the charity.
• 18:52
  Jacqui O'Connor: So real circular economy and the visitors can self pay or we, um, receive fundings from grants and fundraisers.
• 19:00
  Jacqui O'Connor: We've got some Southern cross funding and some EAP funding, so.
• 19:05
  Jacqui O'Connor: That's how we can do some supporting there.
• 19:07
  Jacqui O'Connor: We are always open to partnerships, so that's part of my role as a philanthropist is connecting in and creating opportunities for partners.
• 19:16
  Jacqui O'Connor: And then, uh, we also write grants as well, so we apply for grants and um, that's how we also support ourselves.
• 19:24
  Jacqui O'Connor: And yeah, we've could just got, um, big vision.
• 19:27
  Jacqui O'Connor: So Heart Place Hospital will be as known as kids can if, if you're listening to this from New Zealand, which is one of our biggest children, charity, um, or Gumbo Friday.
• 19:38
  Jacqui O'Connor: So they all started as um, non-government organizations, so, or not-for-profits.
• 19:44
  Jacqui O'Connor: Um, and now they're getting supported by the government.
• 19:46
  Jacqui O'Connor: So we.
• 19:47
  Jacqui O'Connor: Collecting data so that we can go to the government and saying, Hey, we care for it for one carer.
• 19:52
  Jacqui O'Connor: And that ripple effects out to at least 30 people a day.
• 19:56
  Jacqui O'Connor: So we are collecting that data as well.
• 19:58
  Jacqui O'Connor: So yeah, big dreams, um, haven't come this far to come this far.
• 20:03
  Tracy Cartwright: Do you see yourself in multiple places or where you are?
• 20:07
  Jacqui O'Connor: Well, definitely already we're, we're we already energetically of Right.
• 20:10
  Jacqui O'Connor: Throughout New Zealand, but we, we are already talking to people in Australia who wanna model Heart place hospital there in, in, in the States as well.
• 20:18
  Jacqui O'Connor: So, um, yeah, the world, world domination.
• 20:21
  Jacqui O'Connor: Yeah.
• 20:22
  Jacqui O'Connor: So really creating a space through the heart world.
• 20:25
  Jacqui O'Connor: Domination through the heart.
• 20:27
  Jacqui O'Connor: Yeah, exactly.
• 20:28
  Jacqui O'Connor: Yeah.
• 20:30
  Jacqui O'Connor: I'm here for it.
• 20:30
  Jacqui O'Connor: So, yeah, I, I, and I just, you know, every making sense of my life makes sense now.
• 20:35
  Jacqui O'Connor: If I look back on all my bread crumbs, I'm like, ah, now that makes sense.
• 20:41
  Jacqui O'Connor: Yeah.
• 20:41
  Jacqui O'Connor: And I just, I want that other people to, to have that aha moment, that eureka moment as well.
• 20:46
  Jacqui O'Connor: And, um, yeah, and it's happening.
• 20:49
  Jacqui O'Connor: People are realizing, oh, actually I've got a choice.
• 20:52
  Jacqui O'Connor: And actually, hey, you know what?
• 20:54
  Jacqui O'Connor: Life is for, for joy and fun and love, and I've got a choice here.
• 20:59
  Jacqui O'Connor: I can either sit in this story or I can, or I can start following these other people who are really stepping up.
• 21:06
  Jacqui O'Connor: And, and like you said, you know, starting to, to learn that we've got a voice.
• 21:10
  Jacqui O'Connor: Yeah.
• 21:11
  Jacqui O'Connor: And I, I was just saying there's no way I would've spoken up.
• 21:14
  Jacqui O'Connor: Whereas now I, I know how to speak up from heart and, um, I really understand my boundaries and my energy.
• 21:22
  Jacqui O'Connor: Um, I've really dismantled a lot and unlearned a lot and place remembered a lot and that's, uh, I'm seeing that everywhere now.
• 21:31
  Jacqui O'Connor: Like people everywhere are, are starting to go, oh my God, like I let go of that.
• 21:36
  Jacqui O'Connor: Yeah.
• 21:37
  Tracy Cartwright: This is what I'm loving about Heart Place Hospital too, is the reminder.
• 21:40
  Tracy Cartwright: It's also a lot like constellations in that it's coming back.
• 21:45
  Tracy Cartwright: It's coming back to community.
• 21:47
  Tracy Cartwright: Yeah, it's coming back to finding place of belonging and putting things in order of, so you could put it in order of lineage or a hierarchy, but in order and also in order of priority.
• 22:00
  Tracy Cartwright: Right.
• 22:00
  Tracy Cartwright: Yeah, to bring in the balance.
• 22:02
  Tracy Cartwright: So it's very on par with constellations.
• 22:05
  Tracy Cartwright: Very
• 22:06
  Jacqui O'Connor: aligned.
• 22:06
  Jacqui O'Connor: Yeah.
• 22:07
  Jacqui O'Connor: Very aligned.
• 22:07
  Jacqui O'Connor: Yeah.
• 22:08
  Jacqui O'Connor: And then, and the same with all our service providers.
• 22:10
  Jacqui O'Connor: Very aligned.
• 22:11
  Jacqui O'Connor: Yeah.
• 22:12
  Jacqui O'Connor: And, and many, many of them, um, our service providers originally traditionally trained and had their.
• 22:19
  Jacqui O'Connor: Truck moment, what I call it, and have bought in cutting edge modalities, which you'll find your facilitators, right?
• 22:26
  Jacqui O'Connor: Mm-hmm.
• 22:26
  Jacqui O'Connor: They, they would've bought a, you know, stumbled across your modalities.
• 22:30
  Jacqui O'Connor: They've come.
• 22:31
  Jacqui O'Connor: Potentially come from traditionally trained roles and gone, actually it's not quite, doesn't quite fit.
• 22:39
  Jacqui O'Connor: Yeah.
• 22:40
  Jacqui O'Connor: Yeah.
• 22:40
  Jacqui O'Connor: So totally aligned and, and all our, all our practitioners, oh, they're just phenomenal.
• 22:44
  Jacqui O'Connor: Like, so, just like you trace like just so generous and, and anytime I get a bit, bit of a sticky one, I'm like, Hey, this is what's happening.
• 22:52
  Jacqui O'Connor: Can.
• 22:53
  Jacqui O'Connor: Are you interested?
• 22:53
  Jacqui O'Connor: You know, would you be interested in supporting us on this?
• 22:56
  Jacqui O'Connor: And it's just been, it's been epic.
• 22:58
  Jacqui O'Connor: It's been so cool.
• 22:59
  Jacqui O'Connor: And the ripple effect of that, you know, really giving value and care to our carers.
• 23:05
  Jacqui O'Connor: I mean, it's just a, no, it's like pure panacea to me.
• 23:08
  Jacqui O'Connor: I just like a absolute fricking no brainer.
• 23:11
  Jacqui O'Connor: Yeah.
• 23:12
  Jacqui O'Connor: And, and we are all like, regardless, you know, even if you can think of the worst person ever, like underneath, you know, ultimately we were all born and um, yeah.
• 23:21
  Jacqui O'Connor: We are all born for a purpose.
• 23:23
  Jacqui O'Connor: And you know, sometimes, you know, their behavior is to show us how we don't wanna behave, you know, and, and, and gratitude of showing us, actually, that's not how I ever wanna show up in the world.
• 23:34
  Jacqui O'Connor: So,
• 23:35
  Tracy Cartwright: yeah.
• 23:35
  Tracy Cartwright: Yeah.
• 23:36
  Tracy Cartwright: Absolutely.
• 23:36
  Tracy Cartwright: Yeah.
• 23:37
  Tracy Cartwright: Absolutely.
• 23:38
  Tracy Cartwright: Yeah.
• 23:38
  Tracy Cartwright: Yeah.
• 23:39
  Tracy Cartwright: And recently we, we just had our.
• 23:41
  Tracy Cartwright: Big immersion here in New Zealand for Arta New Zealand family constellations from immersion.
• 23:48
  Tracy Cartwright: And we were lucky enough that you were able to support Beautiful midwife To come along.
• 23:54
  Tracy Cartwright: Yeah.
• 23:55
  Tracy Cartwright: Yeah.
• 23:55
  Tracy Cartwright: To be part of it for us, which I saw her transformation.
• 23:58
  Tracy Cartwright: She Oh, amazing.
• 23:59
  Tracy Cartwright: You could see her burnout and she was radiant.
• 24:04
  Tracy Cartwright: Ran by the end of it.
• 24:06
  Tracy Cartwright: Yeah.
• 24:06
  Tracy Cartwright: And it had received so much and we're so grateful that you were able to support Heart Place Hospital, you know, and, and yourself were able to support her in coming along.
• 24:16
  Tracy Cartwright: 'cause that was an
• 24:17
  Jacqui O'Connor: ah, pleasure.
• 24:18
  Jacqui O'Connor: Yeah.
• 24:19
  Jacqui O'Connor: Yeah.
• 24:19
  Jacqui O'Connor: She, that was amazing.
• 24:21
  Jacqui O'Connor: Like, she couldn't even really speak to me.
• 24:23
  Jacqui O'Connor: And I just said to her, look, you know, it's, it's done.
• 24:26
  Jacqui O'Connor: It's all sorted.
• 24:27
  Jacqui O'Connor: And you could see even before she came to your event that, you know, just.
• 24:33
  Jacqui O'Connor: Those kind of actions were, you know, it yourself, you know?
• 24:36
  Jacqui O'Connor: Right.
• 24:37
  Jacqui O'Connor: When you, when you decide you're gonna do something, that that transition starts straight away, that transmission.
• 24:43
  Jacqui O'Connor: Yeah.
• 24:43
  Jacqui O'Connor: So absolutely our pleasure.
• 24:46
  Tracy Cartwright: Yeah.
• 24:46
  Tracy Cartwright: Actually had a beautiful friend supporting her who, um, when I spoke to her and I said, you know, how did you hear about us?
• 24:53
  Tracy Cartwright: And she said that she'd listened to the conversation that you and I had had on Heart Place Hospital.
• 24:58
  Tracy Cartwright: Um.
• 25:01
  Tracy Cartwright: I dunno, 18 months ago maybe.
• 25:02
  Tracy Cartwright: We had about a year ago, I think.
• 25:04
  Tracy Cartwright: Yeah, a year ago.
• 25:05
  Tracy Cartwright: Yeah.
• 25:05
  Tracy Cartwright: Yeah.
• 25:06
  Tracy Cartwright: We had a con podcast conversation.
• 25:08
  Tracy Cartwright: So, and that's what
• 25:08
  Jacqui O'Connor: I love.
• 25:08
  Jacqui O'Connor: I what I love about our podcast actually, um, our podcast series is that as people, visitors come in, I actually, um, we create care plans for them.
• 25:18
  Jacqui O'Connor: We pop the podcasts in for, for the people that we think that would be relevant to them so that they can start making their own, they can start feeling that sovereign being, actually, you know what?
• 25:29
  Jacqui O'Connor: I really do resonate with that person.
• 25:31
  Jacqui O'Connor: So those podcasts keep on giving.
• 25:33
  Jacqui O'Connor: They're not just sort of archived, you know, a year ago they on giving.
• 25:36
  Jacqui O'Connor: Yeah.
• 25:38
  Tracy Cartwright: Powerful stuff.
• 25:38
  Tracy Cartwright: Hey.
• 25:38
  Tracy Cartwright: Yeah.
• 25:39
  Jacqui O'Connor: Really powerful.
• 25:40
  Jacqui O'Connor: Yeah.
• 25:40
  Jacqui O'Connor: Yeah.
• 25:40
  Jacqui O'Connor: Yeah.
• 25:41
  Jacqui O'Connor: So I feel like I, I feel like with the conduit, I feel like with the Yellow Pages, you know, like this umbrella of possibilities for people and, and you know, you really nailed it on the head.
• 25:52
  Jacqui O'Connor: You know, when we can start advocating for ourselves and other people can start feeling brave and, and seeing actually, oh gosh, it's, she's not yelling, she's.
• 26:01
  Jacqui O'Connor: She's not asking for much.
• 26:02
  Jacqui O'Connor: Like she's actually speaking to me human to human here.
• 26:06
  Jacqui O'Connor: And if we can start seeing some examples of that, then the ripple effect of that is massive.
• 26:10
  Jacqui O'Connor: And when we, you know, we are, we're very, very, very, very, like all of us, very intuitive.
• 26:16
  Jacqui O'Connor: So we know we've got that gut, you know, all those generations of not having a voice.
• 26:20
  Jacqui O'Connor: We just haven't been able to speak out,
• 26:21
  Tracy Cartwright: speak out to it.
• 26:22
  Tracy Cartwright: So, yeah, and remembering the world teaches us to not.
• 26:27
  Tracy Cartwright: So not to remember.
• 26:29
  Tracy Cartwright: Yeah.
• 26:29
  Tracy Cartwright: Yeah.
• 26:29
  Jacqui O'Connor: We've been very colonized and, and there's a whole bunch of us.
• 26:32
  Jacqui O'Connor: And when even I say that word, I just see us all on horses meeting at dawn, but we don't have to meet at dawn if you like to have a little sleep.
• 26:38
  Jacqui O'Connor: And I, I just see us on horses and really decolonizing or, you know, really changing that and bringing us back to that innate wisdom.
• 26:46
  Jacqui O'Connor: And that's, you know, that's what Constellations is bringing us back to.
• 26:49
  Jacqui O'Connor: Is, is that innate knowing.
• 26:52
  Jacqui O'Connor: Of where we do belong and where we fit in.
• 26:54
  Jacqui O'Connor: And I think, you know, for me, and, and for you, we are bridges.
• 26:58
  Jacqui O'Connor: You know, we've, we've had big lives, big beings here who have had big experiences.
• 27:03
  Jacqui O'Connor: And um, and we can now alchemize those experiences into supporting others and saying, Hey, we're the bridge.
• 27:11
  Jacqui O'Connor: There's another way, you know, there's another way.
• 27:12
  Jacqui O'Connor: And it's integrative.
• 27:13
  Jacqui O'Connor: It's not, there's not another way.
• 27:15
  Jacqui O'Connor: It's all in together.
• 27:16
  Jacqui O'Connor: And I, and I think there's no right or wrong.
• 27:18
  Jacqui O'Connor: I, I feel like there's alignment and.
• 27:20
  Jacqui O'Connor: And misalignment.
• 27:21
  Jacqui O'Connor: And that's why I brought up that, you know, that I am multidi uh, multidimensional, you know, sometimes, yeah, sometimes it's aligned and then the next weekend it's misaligned.
• 27:30
  Jacqui O'Connor: Like it happens that quick and that's okay too.
• 27:32
  Jacqui O'Connor: But it's just building more and more examples.
• 27:35
  Jacqui O'Connor: Having more and more people having these experiences and showing up and, and being examples or being models of this, this type of living.
• 27:42
  Jacqui O'Connor: Yeah.
• 27:43
  Tracy Cartwright: Yeah, absolutely.
• 27:44
  Tracy Cartwright: 'cause in our multidimensional being south part of it's human right.
• 27:47
  Tracy Cartwright: And sometimes we don't.
• 27:49
  Tracy Cartwright: Right.
• 27:49
  Tracy Cartwright: So that's okay.
• 27:51
  Jacqui O'Connor: Yeah.
• 27:51
  Jacqui O'Connor: Correct.
• 27:51
  Jacqui O'Connor: And, and I mean, just as example, like I've spent a many of the last nine years on my mindset, on my spiritual energy and then, and then just recently just on my physical vessel and, um, yeah, like every time just such an upgrade.
• 28:05
  Jacqui O'Connor: Now just things are flowing so much better because things are, are way more in alignment and yeah.
• 28:11
  Jacqui O'Connor: So, and.
• 28:12
  Jacqui O'Connor: That just didn't come into my stratosphere until recently.
• 28:15
  Jacqui O'Connor: So this is how, um, this is how fricking amazing we are.
• 28:18
  Jacqui O'Connor: Like, you know, we get these amazing messages, awe inspiring body.
• 28:23
  Jacqui O'Connor: It just blows my mind.
• 28:24
  Jacqui O'Connor: Blows my mind.
• 28:25
  Jacqui O'Connor: Absolutely.
• 28:26
  Jacqui O'Connor: Yeah.
• 28:26
  Jacqui O'Connor: Absolutely.
• 28:27
  Jacqui O'Connor: And when we are just no different to the bees, the trees, you know, the leaves, the sea, the ocean, and you know, if.
• 28:33
  Jacqui O'Connor: You're listening to this in New Zealand, if you're listening to this from in Northland, you know, our nature has been, has been having a big clear out and a big mm, a big blow out and a big clear out.
• 28:43
  Jacqui O'Connor: And I just look at it now and I just in awe and just think it's wonder all wonderful.
• 28:47
  Jacqui O'Connor: All fabulous and wonderful.
• 28:48
  Jacqui O'Connor: And that's what I said, you know, I just, I just feel such joy when I'm, when I'm dancing, looking at beautiful things and being with people that smile.
• 28:58
  Tracy Cartwright: Speaking of dancing and beautiful things.
• 29:00
  Tracy Cartwright: Yeah.
• 29:00
  Tracy Cartwright: Now, you had an experience recently your, your husband is a dj and you were doing something down in the, what do you call it?
• 29:08
  Tracy Cartwright: Silos.
• 29:09
  Tracy Cartwright: The, the viaduct in Auckland.
• 29:10
  Tracy Cartwright: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 29:12
  Tracy Cartwright: Shared that with the audience about that because that was crack me up.
• 29:16
  Tracy Cartwright: I was like, of course that Jacqui . I know, right?
• 29:18
  Jacqui O'Connor: I know, right?
• 29:20
  Jacqui O'Connor: It's so funny.
• 29:21
  Jacqui O'Connor: Yeah, so we, we'd been the week before and I was sort of like, oh yeah, yeah, I'll go and help Sean out.
• 29:25
  Jacqui O'Connor: He's an ecstatic dance DJ and a dj and I just had the best time.
• 29:29
  Jacqui O'Connor: Like we, we did a morning, um, a static dance.
• 29:31
  Jacqui O'Connor: We wrote, it's in the silo, six silos, and it's been turned into a temple for six weeks.
• 29:36
  Jacqui O'Connor: Please go down if you.
• 29:37
  Jacqui O'Connor: If you can, it's open till the 26th of April.
• 29:40
  Jacqui O'Connor: Maybe you've missed this if you're listening to this late, um, that's phenomenal.
• 29:43
  Jacqui O'Connor: Hopefully they do it again.
• 29:45
  Jacqui O'Connor: And I absolutely adored it.
• 29:47
  Jacqui O'Connor: And I spent out the whole day there.
• 29:49
  Jacqui O'Connor: We had to roller door up.
• 29:50
  Jacqui O'Connor: Sun was shining, people were walking past, we were totally raving and people were smiling back and I thought, yeah, this is the reason that I'm here at this time is, is to lift the vibration.
• 30:00
  Jacqui O'Connor: And, and we certainly did that.
• 30:02
  Jacqui O'Connor: And so then we were like, right, yeah.
• 30:04
  Jacqui O'Connor: And then I thought, we gotta come back.
• 30:05
  Jacqui O'Connor: So we came back full moon the following week.
• 30:07
  Jacqui O'Connor: So we did a nighttime one.
• 30:09
  Jacqui O'Connor: And to begin with, with a static dance, if you dunno, a static dance, it's, it's, it really is a healing modality.
• 30:14
  Jacqui O'Connor: Always think about dance.
• 30:16
  Jacqui O'Connor: It's a little bit like your, you know, your iCloud storage and it gets to full and then you dance and you actually create space.
• 30:23
  Tracy Cartwright: More
• 30:23
  Jacqui O'Connor: storage in your iCloud.
• 30:25
  Jacqui O'Connor: Oh, ality.
• 30:25
  Jacqui O'Connor: Yeah.
• 30:26
  Jacqui O'Connor: Mito.
• 30:27
  Jacqui O'Connor: Yeah.
• 30:28
  Jacqui O'Connor: I just, I just adore it.
• 30:29
  Jacqui O'Connor: I just think it's amazing.
• 30:30
  Jacqui O'Connor: You can, and you can dance, you know, you could, like, if you've got sore shoulders, you can dance with your sore shoulders.
• 30:34
  Jacqui O'Connor: You know, like if you've got a, if you've got a pain in your heart or feeling grief, you can, you can dance with your heart,
• 30:40
  Tracy Cartwright: you know?
• 30:40
  Tracy Cartwright: So it's just good to close your eyes, eh, 'cause then you don't have to see every, you can get outta your head and into your body.
• 30:45
  Tracy Cartwright: Totally.
• 30:46
  Jacqui O'Connor: Yeah.
• 30:47
  Jacqui O'Connor: And the more you go, the more you go.
• 30:49
  Jacqui O'Connor: Like, so I encourage people to come and we actually had people, we had our kind of normie mates come, we invited them all, and some of them actually came and they were all like, oh, that was so amazing.
• 30:59
  Jacqui O'Connor: And, and so, and it is a real AIC journey.
• 31:02
  Jacqui O'Connor: So it takes you, you know, similarly to yoga or, or a class like that where you start sort of with the slow, slower exercises and then you, you, you ramp it up and then you bring it back down to savasana.
• 31:12
  Jacqui O'Connor: So same with.
• 31:12
  Jacqui O'Connor: Static dance, you start off a little bit more slower and then you ramp it up and anyway, we're sitting in circle 'cause it's, it is the, um, healing modality with intention.
• 31:21
  Jacqui O'Connor: And, um, one of, one of the organizers of the temple, she said, oh, I'm really feeling like we are calling in galactic energy here.
• 31:29
  Jacqui O'Connor: And I'm of course going, yeah, we're totally calling a galactic energy.
• 31:32
  Jacqui O'Connor: And so we start dancing and then, um, Lee Harris walks in.
• 31:36
  Jacqui O'Connor: So I don't know if.
• 31:37
  Jacqui O'Connor: Your listen, most of your listeners will know who he is, so he's a global medical intuitive from the UK, lives in America.
• 31:43
  Jacqui O'Connor: And he was in New Zealand to do his one show only big love on his big love tour.
• 31:48
  Jacqui O'Connor: And so he walked in and part of his static dance is that you don't, you don't speak very much, you know, an individual healing modality and, uh, you can smile at each other.
• 31:57
  Jacqui O'Connor: And so I smiled at them and I, I just indicated, take your shoes off and come in and dance.
• 32:02
  Jacqui O'Connor: So they did.
• 32:03
  Jacqui O'Connor: And then they did a, um, Instagram story right outside the silos.
• 32:06
  Jacqui O'Connor: And so, um, I messaged him and, um.
• 32:09
  Jacqui O'Connor: We messaged back and forth probably about 10 times, and he just said, oh, you know, tell Sean it was awesome.
• 32:15
  Jacqui O'Connor: It was epic.
• 32:15
  Jacqui O'Connor: And, uh, I've got a couple of tickets for you guys to come to the show.
• 32:18
  Jacqui O'Connor: So Sean and I went to his show on Wednesday night.
• 32:22
  Jacqui O'Connor: Um, and yeah, so we, we, we got to dance next to Lee Harris.
• 32:27
  Jacqui O'Connor: There you go.
• 32:27
  Jacqui O'Connor: Fantastic.
• 32:28
  Tracy Cartwright: Yeah.
• 32:29
  Tracy Cartwright: Doesn't get any better than that.
• 32:30
  Tracy Cartwright: I
• 32:31
  Jacqui O'Connor: know.
• 32:31
  Jacqui O'Connor: And it was like, it wasn't a real like girl fan moment or anything.
• 32:35
  Jacqui O'Connor: I was like, of course.
• 32:36
  Jacqui O'Connor: Of course.
• 32:37
  Jacqui O'Connor: Like.
• 32:38
  Jacqui O'Connor: Global and
• 32:39
  Tracy Cartwright: Davo
• 32:39
  Jacqui O'Connor: Dvo
• 32:39
  Tracy Cartwright: was with him.
• 32:40
  Jacqui O'Connor: Yeah.
• 32:41
  Jacqui O'Connor: Devo was there.
• 32:42
  Jacqui O'Connor: Yeah.
• 32:42
  Jacqui O'Connor: He danced as well.
• 32:43
  Jacqui O'Connor: Yeah, he, he is a cool guy.
• 32:44
  Jacqui O'Connor: Yeah.
• 32:45
  Jacqui O'Connor: And they just, they just amalgamated into the crowd and, and danced and, and I thought it was just equally classic.
• 32:51
  Jacqui O'Connor: Two of Sean's songs were about aliens as well, so, um, yeah, we, we definitely thought on the galactic energy and, um, yeah, it was cool.
• 33:03
  Jacqui O'Connor: And I just.
• 33:04
  Jacqui O'Connor: Super blessed, really blessed.
• 33:05
  Jacqui O'Connor: Like, um, I think it's about keeping things really s simple and, and like I said before, really like soul led and community driven and that's all that matters.
• 33:17
  Tracy Cartwright: Beautiful.
• 33:18
  Tracy Cartwright: Yeah.
• 33:19
  Tracy Cartwright: Yeah.
• 33:19
  Tracy Cartwright: That cracked me up.
• 33:20
  Tracy Cartwright: 'cause I'd seen, I'd seen that you'd put on that you were doing a static dance down, down there.
• 33:24
  Tracy Cartwright: And then I saw Lee's, um.
• 33:27
  Tracy Cartwright: Thing about going to an aesthetic and I was like, what?
• 33:30
  Tracy Cartwright: And then you, then you put up that he'd come.
• 33:33
  Tracy Cartwright: I was like, wow.
• 33:35
  Jacqui O'Connor: Heaps of friends going, Hey, you know how you invited me to the aesthetic dance?
• 33:39
  Jacqui O'Connor: Was Lee Harris there?
• 33:42
  Jacqui O'Connor: He was.
• 33:44
  Jacqui O'Connor: Yeah, it was cool.
• 33:46
  Jacqui O'Connor: It was really cool.
• 33:47
  Jacqui O'Connor: Yeah, it was a really cool, you know, like when you're just, sometimes you're just like, what?
• 33:50
  Jacqui O'Connor: What are we doing here?
• 33:51
  Jacqui O'Connor: What's happening?
• 33:52
  Jacqui O'Connor: You know, like crazy kooks going and dancing in silos and then you get that really, you know,
• 33:58
  Tracy Cartwright: and then it reminds you, right?
• 33:59
  Tracy Cartwright: There's someone like Lee Harris who's doing this global work, and Liam and the.
• 34:06
  Tracy Cartwright: The spreading the messages that they're just, at the same time, they're also human and they want to be super Yeah.
• 34:12
  Tracy Cartwright: Perceived normally and to be able to have fun without having Yeah.
• 34:18
  Tracy Cartwright: People.
• 34:19
  Jacqui O'Connor: And this is the ripple effects, right?
• 34:20
  Jacqui O'Connor: So, sure.
• 34:21
  Jacqui O'Connor: My husband, he had, he had not heard of them and so he came, he is, like I said, you got, you got a ticket.
• 34:26
  Jacqui O'Connor: So he came and just the ripple effects.
• 34:28
  Jacqui O'Connor: He's like, oh, I remember when Lee said this.
• 34:30
  Jacqui O'Connor: And I was like, yeah, he did say that.
• 34:31
  Jacqui O'Connor: Well what about, I'm just mentoring what Lee said.
• 34:34
  Jacqui O'Connor: And I thought, yeah, this is like, you know, this is, this is not just middle aged women waking up.
• 34:39
  Jacqui O'Connor: This is.
• 34:40
  Jacqui O'Connor: Pale male, stale males who are also like getting the message.
• 34:45
  Jacqui O'Connor: I, I'm curious, like with your last event, did you have many men come along?
• 34:49
  Tracy Cartwright: We had more than last time.
• 34:52
  Tracy Cartwright: Yeah.
• 34:53
  Tracy Cartwright: But still a very, uh, low com comparison to the, to the woman.
• 34:58
  Tracy Cartwright: But there are more coming.
• 35:00
  Jacqui O'Connor: Yeah,
• 35:01
  Tracy Cartwright: the doors are open, so.
• 35:03
  Tracy Cartwright: Yeah.
• 35:04
  Jacqui O'Connor: Yeah.
• 35:04
  Jacqui O'Connor: And that was, that was Lee Harris.
• 35:06
  Jacqui O'Connor: It was mostly midlife woman.
• 35:08
  Jacqui O'Connor: Woman there.
• 35:08
  Jacqui O'Connor: And like, yeah, surprisingly, no sort of real 30 or 20, 20-year-old woman that was more midlife woman in a sprinkle of men.
• 35:16
  Jacqui O'Connor: But I just thought, yeah, I'm, I'm just stoked that I could get Sean along and, um, and yeah, people have gone, oh, how, how, what did you think?
• 35:24
  Jacqui O'Connor: Like guys have said?
• 35:25
  Jacqui O'Connor: He goes, actually, I really enjoyed it.
• 35:26
  Jacqui O'Connor: I got something out of it.
• 35:27
  Tracy Cartwright: Very cool.
• 35:28
  Tracy Cartwright: Yeah.
• 35:29
  Tracy Cartwright: Back to our conversation around.
• 35:32
  Tracy Cartwright: I, I was thinking, how am I gonna add that into this conversation?
• 35:36
  Tracy Cartwright: Yeah.
• 35:36
  Tracy Cartwright: I wanted to share that.
• 35:37
  Tracy Cartwright: Yeah.
• 35:38
  Tracy Cartwright: But I was excited for you guys, and I know the fact that, you know, like it's, that it's frequency too, isn't it?
• 35:44
  Tracy Cartwright: It's all about totally frequency to, and also that frequency that you will have been creating down there at the viaduct.
• 35:53
  Tracy Cartwright: 'cause it's, you know, it's non alcohol and, mm-hmm.
• 35:59
  Tracy Cartwright: It's all about bringing in the joy.
• 36:01
  Jacqui O'Connor: Yeah.
• 36:02
  Tracy Cartwright: Finding that and alignment for yourself.
• 36:04
  Jacqui O'Connor: Yep.
• 36:04
  Jacqui O'Connor: And we had, like I said, we invited people and they, it wasn't, you know, it's not their norm and they were all buzzing afterwards.
• 36:11
  Jacqui O'Connor: You know, back to frequency.
• 36:12
  Jacqui O'Connor: It's down to frequency, right.
• 36:14
  Jacqui O'Connor: When you're high vibing, then it just ripple effects off and sa, same with the opposite, you know, when you're in the low vibe.
• 36:19
  Jacqui O'Connor: But that's why I just think it's so important that we have heart place hospitals so that our frontline workers are high vibing.
• 36:26
  Tracy Cartwright: Um, yeah.
• 36:27
  Tracy Cartwright: And it can be that, that when you are in the, and that's the same with constellations, it brings people that are looking for that other vibration.
• 36:34
  Tracy Cartwright: Yeah.
• 36:35
  Tracy Cartwright: Or that next layer.
• 36:37
  Tracy Cartwright: Right.
• 36:37
  Tracy Cartwright: Peel back so that I can be a lighter and, and still not exactly throwing the low vibe out, but seeing what's there with it.
• 36:45
  Tracy Cartwright: What's that?
• 36:46
  Tracy Cartwright: And then lifting that.
• 36:49
  Jacqui O'Connor: But it's a bit of an addiction.
• 36:50
  Jacqui O'Connor: You know?
• 36:50
  Jacqui O'Connor: Like, you're like, oh, okay, this is cool.
• 36:52
  Jacqui O'Connor: What's next?
• 36:54
  Jacqui O'Connor: You know, like, it's like, oh, okay.
• 36:57
  Jacqui O'Connor: Lee Harris, then who
• 37:02
  Tracy Cartwright: Well like to see a list.
• 37:03
  Tracy Cartwright: Yeah.
• 37:03
  Tracy Cartwright: That's right.
• 37:04
  Tracy Cartwright: Right.
• 37:06
  Tracy Cartwright: Well, maybe the universe has made a list and hasn't told you yet.
• 37:08
  Tracy Cartwright: Yeah,
• 37:09
  Jacqui O'Connor: I, I just picture Golden Bridges.
• 37:11
  Jacqui O'Connor: Golden Bridges yet.
• 37:15
  Tracy Cartwright: Beautiful.
• 37:16
  Tracy Cartwright: Beautiful.
• 37:16
  Tracy Cartwright: Yeah.
• 37:17
  Tracy Cartwright: Har, so Heart Place Hospital is based at your property?
• 37:21
  Tracy Cartwright: Yeah,
• 37:22
  Jacqui O'Connor: so yeah.
• 37:23
  Jacqui O'Connor: Um, we've got a, um, property in Manai in Northland, and so we've got a physical hospital here.
• 37:28
  Jacqui O'Connor: So we do satellite clinics, workshops, accommodation, but we are more about energy.
• 37:33
  Jacqui O'Connor: We'll meet people where they're at.
• 37:34
  Jacqui O'Connor: So if they're, you know, if they're ringing from Inva Cargill and they've got a service provider that they feel connected to, then we'll make that happen.
• 37:42
  Jacqui O'Connor: Um, yeah, some people.
• 37:45
  Jacqui O'Connor: Actually a lot of people just with the triage and being seen and then getting their care plan, they're like, wow, this is, this is amazing.
• 37:53
  Jacqui O'Connor: Like the shift is massive.
• 37:55
  Jacqui O'Connor: Um, not everyone necessarily needs to be going to a workshop or satellite clinic or having accommodation, but it's all on offer.
• 38:02
  Jacqui O'Connor: So it's bespoke.
• 38:04
  Jacqui O'Connor: And I think that's super, super important in, in healthcare.
• 38:07
  Jacqui O'Connor: 'cause we've all had different environments and, and experiences.
• 38:10
  Jacqui O'Connor: So one size fits all, which is what I, what I was offered.
• 38:14
  Jacqui O'Connor: Nine years ago.
• 38:15
  Jacqui O'Connor: And I remember standing there going, is this it?
• 38:19
  Jacqui O'Connor: Is this it?
• 38:21
  Jacqui O'Connor: And, and it was.
• 38:22
  Jacqui O'Connor: That's all it was.
• 38:23
  Jacqui O'Connor: Um, so rather than get mad about it, I've got even
• 38:30
  Tracy Cartwright: got even better.
• 38:31
  Jacqui O'Connor: Yeah, exactly.
• 38:33
  Jacqui O'Connor: Yeah.
• 38:34
  Tracy Cartwright: Yeah.
• 38:35
  Jacqui O'Connor: You know, like in our worlds it's just, it's butterfly talk, right?
• 38:38
  Jacqui O'Connor: We are just like, okay, we've been through, we've been the caterpillar, we've fattened up, we've been through the chrysalis, we've been through the girl of that chrysalis.
• 38:44
  Jacqui O'Connor: We're now the butterfly.
• 38:45
  Jacqui O'Connor: Let's get on with it.
• 38:46
  Jacqui O'Connor: Let's, let's create the solution.
• 38:48
  Jacqui O'Connor: And science all backs it.
• 38:50
  Jacqui O'Connor: And, you know, the impact and the testimonials and, and the feedback and the evidence that we get is like, just off the Richter scale.
• 38:59
  Jacqui O'Connor: Yeah.
• 39:00
  Tracy Cartwright: And,
• 39:01
  Jacqui O'Connor: and you know, going back to we, we are what nature is.
• 39:05
  Jacqui O'Connor: So, you know, if we are, if we are well, then nature's, well, you know, earth's well and it just, it, it's a no brainer.
• 39:14
  Jacqui O'Connor: So we are just in this amazing like, monumental historical time, like, you know, equivalent to Nazi Germany times, you know, our grandkids, their kids are gonna be talking about.
• 39:25
  Jacqui O'Connor: This time we're actually loving that we're actually.
• 39:28
  Jacqui O'Connor: Experience that we're on the conveyor about right now.
• 39:30
  Jacqui O'Connor: It's happening.
• 39:31
  Jacqui O'Connor: Right, right, right this second.
• 39:32
  Jacqui O'Connor: And how fricking amazing is that?
• 39:35
  Tracy Cartwright: Beautiful.
• 39:35
  Jacqui O'Connor: Yeah.
• 39:37
  Tracy Cartwright: I've been to your place numerous times and you have a space for workshops.
• 39:41
  Tracy Cartwright: You have a beautiful property and the outlook is amazing.
• 39:45
  Tracy Cartwright: So just even going like if someone was to stay, so you said you've got accommodation?
• 39:51
  Jacqui O'Connor: Mm-hmm.
• 39:52
  Jacqui O'Connor: Yep.
• 39:52
  Jacqui O'Connor: Yeah.
• 39:52
  Jacqui O'Connor: We've had, um, we've had nurses this year we've had nurses straight from psychiatric units, so psychiatric unit nurses who've ended up in psychiatric units.
• 40:03
  Jacqui O'Connor: So we've had them straight from there and rehabilitated them and provided them.
• 40:08
  Jacqui O'Connor: Healing and a, a soft, safe land.
• 40:10
  Jacqui O'Connor: And then we've had also had beautiful young people, highly sensitive people who have these amazing modalities to share, but they don't want to go into the system and, and have to experiencing burnout to get the message.
• 40:22
  Jacqui O'Connor: So we are able to work with them, do lots of heart storming.
• 40:26
  Jacqui O'Connor: And start creating a sustainable living for them so that they can share the modalities that they're so passionate about.
• 40:34
  Jacqui O'Connor: And so, you know, expertise and you know, like some of these young people, they've been doing these modalities before just'cause they've got the certificate now.
• 40:42
  Jacqui O'Connor: Um, but it doesn't mean, you know, they've done it in another lifetime and they've just.
• 40:46
  Jacqui O'Connor: Remembering is just so phenomenal.
• 40:49
  Jacqui O'Connor: So yeah, we, we are spectrum, very spectrum and we love talking about spectrum.
• 40:54
  Jacqui O'Connor: Love neuros, spicy people because they're just so, they're the seers, right?
• 40:59
  Jacqui O'Connor: They're the, they're the change makers.
• 41:00
  Jacqui O'Connor: And, um, so we create that, again, that soft, safe land so that they can actually go, oh, actually I don't have to work in that model of Monday to Friday because that my energy doesn't work in that model.
• 41:14
  Jacqui O'Connor: And, you know, if I can find some work that I can do that I get paid to get the job done rather than time for money.
• 41:21
  Jacqui O'Connor: So, and then there's just phenomenal ways of creating multiple ways of, um, receiving income that more and more people, uh, discovering.
• 41:31
  Jacqui O'Connor: And, and I, I really think that.
• 41:33
  Jacqui O'Connor: Quite a feminine model that everybody receives and everybody shares, everybody receives, and everyone's can experience, you know, our birthright of abundance.
• 41:43
  Jacqui O'Connor: But yeah, once again, lots of unlearning and lots of remembering around, you know, we, we are not broken.
• 41:50
  Jacqui O'Connor: And yeah, we don't need fixing.
• 41:52
  Jacqui O'Connor: And yeah, I've always, the last nine years have been really passionate about the feminine energy, so particularly around our rites of passage.
• 42:01
  Jacqui O'Connor: So birth, monarchy, menstruation, sexuality.
• 42:04
  Jacqui O'Connor: Yeah.
• 42:05
  Tracy Cartwright: When I, when I first met you, I remember you were doing some work with teenagers around menstruation, and I was like.
• 42:12
  Tracy Cartwright: Oh my Lord.
• 42:13
  Tracy Cartwright: If only I'd had that as a teenager or my children, if I'd known what I could have, you know, at the time.
• 42:21
  Jacqui O'Connor: Yeah, I know.
• 42:21
  Jacqui O'Connor: I was so, I was 46 when I, so I've been a nurse by then.
• 42:24
  Jacqui O'Connor: I'd been a nurse for 25 years and been menstruating for 30.
• 42:28
  Jacqui O'Connor: Plus years, and I learned about the power of the menstrual cycle and I just sat there with my mouth, like on the ground and thought I've gotta do something about this.
• 42:38
  Jacqui O'Connor: So I, I created, um, period power and interestingly, I haven't, haven't touched it for a year or two, and it's just.
• 42:45
  Jacqui O'Connor: It's resurfaced.
• 42:46
  Jacqui O'Connor: Perry Powers re resurfaced.
• 42:49
  Jacqui O'Connor: I know she's coming back.
• 42:51
  Jacqui O'Connor: Um, so I've just been invited.
• 42:53
  Jacqui O'Connor: I, I, I did one on the Full Moon last week, and then I've been invited to a couple of homeschool groups with mothers and daughters, and I love it.
• 43:01
  Jacqui O'Connor: I just, I just love sharing that truth.
• 43:04
  Jacqui O'Connor: Yeah.
• 43:04
  Tracy Cartwright: Wisdom.
• 43:05
  Tracy Cartwright: Yeah.
• 43:06
  Tracy Cartwright: Yeah.
• 43:06
  Tracy Cartwright: Opens, opens up to a deeper knowing, doesn't it, of ourselves and
• 43:11
  Jacqui O'Connor: mm-hmm.
• 43:11
  Jacqui O'Connor: And.
• 43:13
  Jacqui O'Connor: And then you just can't unsee the fuckery.
• 43:15
  Jacqui O'Connor: You just cannot unsee it.
• 43:17
  Jacqui O'Connor: Once you learn the menstrual cycle, the power of the period, you cannot unsee it.
• 43:21
  Jacqui O'Connor: Yeah,
• 43:22
  Tracy Cartwright: yeah,
• 43:22
  Jacqui O'Connor: yeah,
• 43:23
  Tracy Cartwright: yeah.
• 43:24
  Tracy Cartwright: Powerful stuff Jacqui.
• 43:25
  Tracy Cartwright: Jacqui O'Connor: Yeah.
• 43:25
  Tracy Cartwright: Super powerful.
• 43:26
  Tracy Cartwright: And you know, I just really passionate about.
• 43:30
  Tracy Cartwright: Reducing the eye pathogenesis, which is the pathologizing medicalizing of literally us being human.
• 43:36
  Tracy Cartwright: So I will do my, you know, I'll do my, make my part of the world beautiful and hopefully those ripples, although I know there's ripples, they're already happening.
• 43:45
  Tracy Cartwright: The ripples just ripple off.
• 43:47
  Tracy Cartwright: And then other people wanna make their, their corner of the world beautiful.
• 43:50
  Tracy Cartwright: And, and if we can all do.
• 43:52
  Tracy Cartwright: A little corner of the world then.
• 43:53
  Tracy Cartwright: Wow, what a world.
• 43:54
  Tracy Cartwright: So cool.
• 43:55
  Tracy Cartwright: Exactly.
• 43:55
  Tracy Cartwright: Yeah, exactly.
• 43:57
  Jacqui O'Connor: We can make a tsunami if we have enough reports.
• 44:00
  Jacqui O'Connor: I know, I know.
• 44:01
  Jacqui O'Connor: Look, we've survived cyclones and tornadoes
• 44:04
  Tracy Cartwright: and
• 44:05
  Jacqui O'Connor: it
• 44:05
  Tracy Cartwright: doesn't have to be like we think of, you know, we think of tsunamis as.
• 44:09
  Tracy Cartwright: They can, they're devastating, but they're also creating a new pathway.
• 44:14
  Jacqui O'Connor: G clearing.
• 44:15
  Jacqui O'Connor: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 44:16
  Tracy Cartwright: Moving stuff, moving that stagnant energy.
• 44:19
  Tracy Cartwright: Maybe just, you know, we'll just leave the devastation out of the way and, uh, well, we're, we're energy means
• 44:25
  Jacqui O'Connor: we can create, you know, any sort of.
• 44:27
  Jacqui O'Connor: Vortex.
• 44:29
  Jacqui O'Connor: Um, I know when we were driving home the other day, it was real windy and raining and I just pictured this big energetic vortex ran our vehicle staying solidly on our side of the road and we got home safely.
• 44:39
  Jacqui O'Connor: So look how amazing we are.
• 44:40
  Tracy Cartwright: Mm-hmm.
• 44:42
  Tracy Cartwright: Yeah.
• 44:44
  Tracy Cartwright: Yeah, we are amazing things, aren't we?
• 44:46
  Tracy Cartwright: Yeah.
• 44:46
  Tracy Cartwright: Yeah.
• 44:47
  Tracy Cartwright: The things that we can create and do to get to, uh, that others
• 44:51
  Jacqui O'Connor: phenomenal.
• 44:52
  Jacqui O'Connor: We are absolutely phenomenal.
• 44:54
  Jacqui O'Connor: And start letting go of the fuckery and then you just can't start, you can't unsee the magic.
• 44:59
  Jacqui O'Connor: Mm.
• 44:59
  Tracy Cartwright: Yeah.
• 45:00
  Tracy Cartwright: ' Jacqui O'Connor: cause a t-shirt.
• 45:02
  Jacqui O'Connor: There's a t-shirt, there's a trucker hat.
• 45:07
  Jacqui O'Connor: Let go of the fuckery, the man.
• 45:11
  Jacqui O'Connor: Yeah.
• 45:11
  Jacqui O'Connor: I've got a few, there's a few of me.
• 45:12
  Jacqui O'Connor: Um, more less taboo.
• 45:15
  Tracy Cartwright: No
• 45:15
  Jacqui O'Connor: more fuckery.
• 45:16
  Jacqui O'Connor: No more ery.
• 45:17
  Jacqui O'Connor: Yeah.
• 45:18
  Tracy Cartwright: Nice.
• 45:19
  Jacqui O'Connor: There's a few of me.
• 45:21
  Tracy Cartwright: Yeah.
• 45:22
  Tracy Cartwright: Yeah.
• 45:23
  Tracy Cartwright: How would people find you if they're looking for you, how are they gonna find you?
• 45:27
  Jacqui O'Connor: Oh, just, just look for the rare light.
• 45:30
  Jacqui O'Connor: That'd be hot in the sky.
• 45:33
  Jacqui O'Connor: That, yeah, that's, find me.
• 45:39
  Jacqui O'Connor: Everything's heart place hospital.
• 45:40
  Jacqui O'Connor: So, um, websites, heart place hospital.org nz in Instagram, Facebook, you can, you can even look up Jacqui O'Connor on Facebook.
• 45:49
  Jacqui O'Connor: I, um, all open, wide open and LinkedIn and YouTube Hap place Hospital.
• 45:54
  Jacqui O'Connor: And our website is okay.
• 45:57
  Jacqui O'Connor: It doesn't quite keep up with our, um, the, the, the pace that we morph.
• 46:01
  Jacqui O'Connor: So you get the gist, but, um, we way more than what our website tells us.
• 46:04
  Jacqui O'Connor: Yeah.
• 46:05
  Tracy Cartwright: Mm. Beautiful.
• 46:07
  Tracy Cartwright: And have you got any events?
• 46:08
  Tracy Cartwright: 'cause you know, sometimes I've, you've posted, I've been to you a couple of times.
• 46:12
  Tracy Cartwright: We've done drama.
• 46:13
  Tracy Cartwright: Yeah.
• 46:14
  Tracy Cartwright: And we have had constellations.
• 46:16
  Tracy Cartwright: Oh gosh.
• 46:16
  Tracy Cartwright: So what events have you got coming up?
• 46:18
  Jacqui O'Connor: Thank you for asking.
• 46:19
  Jacqui O'Connor: What have I got?
• 46:20
  Jacqui O'Connor: So we've got an ecstatic dance on May the fourth.
• 46:22
  Jacqui O'Connor: May the fourth be with you.
• 46:24
  Jacqui O'Connor: Sunday, may the fourth
• 46:25
  Tracy Cartwright: at at Heart Place.
• 46:27
  Jacqui O'Connor: Yeah.
• 46:27
  Jacqui O'Connor: Mung.
• 46:28
  Jacqui O'Connor: We've got dance every Wednesday with a dance practitioner.
• 46:32
  Jacqui O'Connor: We've got May the 17th.
• 46:34
  Jacqui O'Connor: We've got EFT workshop in Auckland and on May the 30th, we've got a Power Hour.
• 46:41
  Jacqui O'Connor: So we do a Power Power Hour online every couple of weeks at lunchtime.
• 46:46
  Jacqui O'Connor: Um, and that's with, um, Jane, Catherine Verne, who's like my menopausal muse.
• 46:51
  Jacqui O'Connor: Got that coming up.
• 46:52
  Jacqui O'Connor: We've got glitter and grief with Ali Bamb, Bri on the 17th of June among afi.
• 46:57
  Jacqui O'Connor: And then we have got, I think we've got about 50 service providers.
• 47:01
  Jacqui O'Connor: So anything from UA.
• 47:04
  Jacqui O'Connor: Medicine, so plant medicine, um, to Maori healing to EFT Havening.
• 47:11
  Jacqui O'Connor: So talk therapy, but with, with sort of cutting edge modalities in involved with them, you guys.
• 47:16
  Jacqui O'Connor: Um, with family Constellations, we've got a beautiful naturopath who's actually also a pharmacist, so you get that beautiful whole person support.
• 47:28
  Jacqui O'Connor: We've got lots of nurses.
• 47:30
  Jacqui O'Connor: Who have got cutting edge modalities, um, who are now health coaches or mental health coaches.
• 47:35
  Jacqui O'Connor: Got doctors as well who do whole person care.
• 47:39
  Jacqui O'Connor: And then we've got lots of products, so lots of products and lots of, um, services.
• 47:43
  Jacqui O'Connor: So just a couple I'm thinking of as like, uh, the bio detox Foot Spa.
• 47:47
  Jacqui O'Connor: So.
• 47:48
  Jacqui O'Connor: Releasing any of the sort of toxins, pathogens, um, through your skin.
• 47:53
  Jacqui O'Connor: Uh, also got, uh, flow espresso, which is this amazing far infrared suit that also also massages your entire body.
• 48:01
  Jacqui O'Connor: So it's a, it's a what suit?
• 48:03
  Jacqui O'Connor: Uh, far infrared.
• 48:06
  Tracy Cartwright: That's not what I thought you said.
• 48:08
  Jacqui O'Connor: Did you think I said fart?
• 48:10
  Jacqui O'Connor: Yes.
• 48:10
  Jacqui O'Connor: What you think.
• 48:11
  Jacqui O'Connor: Oh, okay.
• 48:12
  Jacqui O'Connor: You probably, you would, you would fart in there actually massages your body simultaneously.
• 48:18
  Jacqui O'Connor: So it's, it's designed for lymphatic drainage.
• 48:21
  Jacqui O'Connor: So I've been at it a couple of times.
• 48:23
  Jacqui O'Connor: And you literally, you literally urinate out all these toxins afterwards.
• 48:27
  Tracy Cartwright: Is that at your place or that's No, it's
• 48:28
  Jacqui O'Connor: near.
• 48:29
  Jacqui O'Connor: It's near here though.
• 48:30
  Jacqui O'Connor: Yeah.
• 48:30
  Jacqui O'Connor: One of our service providers.
• 48:32
  Jacqui O'Connor: What else?
• 48:33
  Jacqui O'Connor: And so if people stay here, we've got an infrared sauna and cold plunge and gym and foot spas, and.
• 48:40
  Jacqui O'Connor: Garden to table foods.
• 48:42
  Jacqui O'Connor: So really turning healthcare into a healing healthcare as opposed to the reactive sick care system that we often see.
• 48:49
  Jacqui O'Connor: Yeah,
• 48:50
  Tracy Cartwright: yeah, absolutely.
• 48:52
  Tracy Cartwright: Yeah.
• 48:52
  Tracy Cartwright: Beautiful.
• 48:52
  Tracy Cartwright: Beautiful.
• 48:53
  Tracy Cartwright: Yeah, thanks.
• 48:55
  Tracy Cartwright: Love what you're bringing to the world and and yeah, so amazing.
• 49:00
  Jacqui O'Connor: Thank you so much.
• 49:02
  Jacqui O'Connor: So are you back at you?
• 49:05
  Tracy Cartwright: Well, I think this is, um.
• 49:07
  Tracy Cartwright: A good place to leave it here for today.
• 49:09
  Tracy Cartwright: Mm-hmm.
• 49:10
  Tracy Cartwright: And, um, yeah, I'm just, I'm grateful that you were able to come and share your time with me.
• 49:15
  Tracy Cartwright: It's always amazing to chat with you.
• 49:16
  Tracy Cartwright: I love your light and your radiance and all that you're bringing into the world.
• 49:20
  Tracy Cartwright: So thank you so much Jacqui , and I hope the listeners have, um, received so much juicy wisdom and, and knowing that there is help out there, there is, there are places you don't have to be floundering.
• 49:33
  Tracy Cartwright: Yeah.
• 49:33
  Tracy Cartwright: Get in touch with Jacqui at Har Place Hospital.
• 49:36
  Tracy Cartwright: Sounds good.
• 49:37
  Tracy Cartwright: Thank you for listening.
• 49:39
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• 49:59
  Tracy Cartwright: So until next time, be kind to yourself and have fun doing it.