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Ep. 386 - Gamera Vs. Viras (1968) · Frightmares

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  Speaker 2: Ever have that one movie everyone assumes you've seen, but
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  Speaker 4: Welcome back to Fridmar's podcast. I'm your host, Austin Brout,
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  Speaker 4: currently dying of a viral infection that my got from
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  Speaker 4: my daughter. So please excuse all of the voice breaking,
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  Speaker 4: the sniffling, the coughing, all of it. Enjoining me today
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  Speaker 4: is my very not sick friend for episode three eighty six,
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  Speaker 4: Michael Fires, how are we doing today?
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  Speaker 3: I'm apparently doing better than you are.
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  Speaker 4: Fuck life is chaos. First it was Pink Eye, now
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  Speaker 4: it's this kid kisses. This week has been a blur.
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  Speaker 4: I got sick. Both both my wife and I woke
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  Speaker 4: up Friday and we were like, what happened to us?
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  Speaker 4: And usually it's like the kid will get sick, I'll
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  Speaker 4: get sick, She'll get sick, or like vice versa. But
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  Speaker 4: when both parents are non functioning parents, there's a problem
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  Speaker 4: because I can't, we cannot take care of a child.
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  Speaker 4: So luckily we were able to have her at parents'
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  Speaker 4: houses for Friday and Saturday. But it's been a whole thing.
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  Speaker 2: And yet all despite all of that, You've still like
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  Speaker 2: managed to text me like every single day.
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  Speaker 4: I've been doing nothing but watching movies and sleeping, So.
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  Speaker 3: Honestly, that's like the best part about being sick.
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  Speaker 4: It's just the sleeping, and then my body. Then my
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  Speaker 4: body refused to let me sleep last night, so now
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  Speaker 4: I'm delirious, sick on a whole bunch of drugs for
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  Speaker 4: the sickness. It's it's ten out of ten experience, but
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  Speaker 4: the show must go on. And today, on the last
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  Speaker 4: installment of Kaiju and Destroy, we're discussing our wild card
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  Speaker 4: pick uh. And I've figured out the name. It is
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  Speaker 4: Gamera because that is how they're pronouncing it and the
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  Speaker 4: two movies I've watched, so apparently it's not Gamera. It's
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  Speaker 4: not Gamera, it is gomera fucking whatever I'm gonna call it.
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  Speaker 4: I'm gonna call it gamera because I just like that.
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  Speaker 4: That's how I'm gonna ca Yeah, we're gonna call it
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  Speaker 4: what we want to. So it's uh, Gamera versus virus
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  Speaker 4: or veras. Let's go with virus somet I'm sick from
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  Speaker 4: nineteen sixty eight, a movie whose title was really about
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  Speaker 4: the friends we made along the way honestly kill. Let's
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  Speaker 4: see where this lands on the primer text. Jesus Christ,
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  Speaker 4: all right, recently watched what do we have from the
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  Speaker 4: past week?
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  Speaker 2: Michael that you've all right, well, you know me, My
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  Speaker 2: watches are usually not horror specific, So that's your audience.
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  Speaker 2: Hardcore horror fans is gonna have to fucking deal with it.
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  Speaker 2: This is technically outside of a week, but I don't
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  Speaker 2: give a shit. It is my watch list. I watched Goodluck,
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  Speaker 2: Have Fun, Don't Die.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, yes, that's that's yes.
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  Speaker 2: That was a fucking ride and a half. Like, so,
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  Speaker 2: what what worked so well about this film? Well one,
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  Speaker 2: I just need to mention I fucking missed you gore Forbinski.
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  Speaker 2: Seven years is too long to disappear into the ether.
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  Speaker 3: Ten, dude, ten, I thought it was seven.
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  Speaker 4: Cure for Wellness twenty sixteen was the last movie he did? Fuck?
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  Speaker 3: Are you serious?
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  Speaker 4: I'm dead ass.
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  Speaker 3: I just want to make sure he didn't do anything
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  Speaker 3: else that I please. I thought it was seven.
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  Speaker 4: Please correct me if I'm wrong, But I have last
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  Speaker 4: when I checked, because we did a Cure for Wellness
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  Speaker 4: and I was like, this is the last thing. Maybe
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  Speaker 4: that was the last horror movie.
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  Speaker 3: Dude, you were right.
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  Speaker 4: It six ten fucking years, bro, And then he comes
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  Speaker 4: back to make a movie about everything that's wrong with America.
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  Speaker 4: I love you so much.
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  Speaker 3: How was the same man that made mouse Hunt.
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  Speaker 4: The same man who made Pirates of the Caribbean, the
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  Speaker 4: same man who made The.
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  Speaker 3: Ring What do You Meet? The same man that made
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  Speaker 3: The Mexican with Brad Pitt.
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  Speaker 4: He can do every genre. Stay around, dor Verbinski, Stay
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  Speaker 4: around yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So what I love about this is it's a chaotic, weird,
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  Speaker 2: big budget film, or at least it's a film that
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  Speaker 2: feels like it has.
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  Speaker 3: A big budget. There that's an art in itself.
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  Speaker 2: Obviously, it reminds me of things like everything everywhere, all
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  Speaker 2: at once, which might have been its The biggest problem
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  Speaker 2: it had is because I think we were, like, it
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  Speaker 2: was trying to advertise towards the people who loved that movie,
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  Speaker 2: and I don't.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know if I would have
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  Speaker 3: been done it that way.
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  Speaker 2: But then it also reminded me of obviously The Terminator
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  Speaker 2: and Alex Cox's repo.
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  Speaker 4: Man, oh, the Criterion you bought me a while back. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I forgot about that for you. That. Yeah, that was
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  Speaker 4: a wild movie.
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  Speaker 3: I figured you'd like that one.
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  Speaker 2: I also really appreciate that the screenator Matthew Robinson worked
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  Speaker 2: with Brian Duffield on a film called Love and Monsters,
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  Speaker 2: which Brian Duffield is such a weird writer that I
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  Speaker 2: wouldn't be surprised if he, you know, just is channeling
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  Speaker 2: some of that.
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  Speaker 3: Dude. So I watched that.
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  Speaker 2: I watched a Peter Bugdanovich and Burt Reynolds movie I've
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  Speaker 2: never seen called Nickelodeon, but the early days of Silent
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  Speaker 2: Film a very charming.
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  Speaker 4: Movie that that went a completely different way that I
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  Speaker 4: thought was gonna Like, how does Nickelodeon relate to the
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  Speaker 4: Silent film era?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, fun fact for you, Nickelodeons were the names of
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  Speaker 2: theaters back in the Silent era, because it calls us
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  Speaker 2: a nickel to see a movie. Huh, Nickelodeon's were Nickelodeon
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  Speaker 2: the channel interesting took the name from these old movie theaters. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: look it up, it's called They're called Nickelodeon's.
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  Speaker 3: They were nickel theaters.
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  Speaker 2: Really surprised to see a very young John Ritter from
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  Speaker 2: Eight Simple Rules of Date My teenage Daughter fame and
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  Speaker 2: like he uh in this movie he's such a baby
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  Speaker 2: or he was also an it like the original mini series,
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  Speaker 2: So that was kind of fun. Yeah, I've got some mixed.
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  Speaker 2: So there's one one thing I will say about this film.
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  Speaker 2: It's a very it's a beautiful time capsule to what
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  Speaker 2: it was like in the Silent film era. And if
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  Speaker 2: you watch Peter Bogdanovitch's director's cut, which comes in this
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  Speaker 2: sony disc, it's it's even in black and white, which
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  Speaker 2: was his original goal because he shoots it like one
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  Speaker 2: of those old films problem and like Peter Bargdanovich obviously
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  Speaker 2: did a lot of research before he was a filmmaker.
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  Speaker 2: He was an interviewer and he would interview all of
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  Speaker 2: his film heroes and a lot of people who worked
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  Speaker 2: in the silent film era. So he got a chance
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  Speaker 2: to find out the real stories of what happened to
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  Speaker 2: people and how how that time period went. And it's
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  Speaker 2: like a lot of those people are almost all those
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  Speaker 2: people are dead now.
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  Speaker 3: So the fact that he got that one on one.
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  Speaker 2: With them, but the I have to address something, So
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  Speaker 2: this movie is trying to be accurate to the time period.
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  Speaker 2: There's a lot of racist iconography.
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  Speaker 3: In this movie that I'm not.
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  Speaker 2: A big fan of, and like I said, I get
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  Speaker 2: that he's trying to do faithful representation of what that
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  Speaker 2: time period is like, which means unfortunately a bunch of
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  Speaker 2: white people wearing black face at times. And this movie
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  Speaker 2: also has a lot of reverence to the filmmaker D. W. Griffith,
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  Speaker 2: who did a Birth of a Nation. And that's hard anyways,
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  Speaker 2: because you can't really talk about the history of film
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  Speaker 2: without acknowledging that visual storytelling as we know it is attributed.
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  Speaker 3: To that man.
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  Speaker 2: But to see the entire audience of people giving that
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  Speaker 2: movie like a standing ovation, it's like, I get that
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  Speaker 2: this is what happened, but fuck man.
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  Speaker 4: Actually it's a weird line. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Other than that, it was, it was, it was. It
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  Speaker 3: was really good.
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  Speaker 2: And Burt Reynolds plays a bumbling dufist better than anyone.
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  Speaker 2: Like Reynolds kind of had that Bruce Campbell cut quality
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  Speaker 2: a points in his career where he could be swa
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  Speaker 2: sexy Bruce Numbers slaves sexy Burt Reynolds, but then he
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  Speaker 2: could also play bumbling dufiss like no.
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  Speaker 3: One's business like perfect. Yeah, And then I'll I did
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  Speaker 3: watch ready or not? Two?
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  Speaker 4: Nice? What did you think?
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  Speaker 3: I liked it a lot.
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  Speaker 2: Though I watched it on someone's plex, a friend of
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  Speaker 2: mine who lent me their plex, and I kept having
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  Speaker 2: internet issues, so it kept there was like a twenty
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  Speaker 2: minute section in the middle where it was just all pixelation, frustrated,
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  Speaker 2: and then the last ten minutes kept freezing.
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  Speaker 4: Ah goddamn.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So like we got to a certain point where we
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  Speaker 2: managed just read the Wikipedia article to see what happened,
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  Speaker 2: and then we saw the blood guyser happen, and it
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  Speaker 2: was like, cool, good enough, We're fucking done with this movie,
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  Speaker 2: so I need to buy it so I can actually
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  Speaker 2: enjoy it all the way through without any once again, man,
• 10:43
  Speaker 2: another benefit to buying shit that you want to see.
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  Speaker 3: And honestly, I probably would have rented it.
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  Speaker 2: I would have rented it from Apple TV because I'm
• 10:53
  Speaker 2: more than happy.
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  Speaker 3: To do that. It wasn't available.
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  Speaker 2: You could only buy it for twenty bucks, and I
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  Speaker 2: was like, I don't want to buy it copy for
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  Speaker 2: twenty bucks.
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  Speaker 4: I'll buy a physical for twenty bucks.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, So it was really good. I don't want
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  Speaker 2: I love the title ready or Not Here, I come.
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  Speaker 2: I don't love Ready or Not two here I come.
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  Speaker 2: I think that's just that does not roll off the
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  Speaker 2: tongue at all.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it either needs to be one or the other.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, but but Katherine Newton and some arow weaving
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  Speaker 3: together peak love it.
• 11:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 11:27
  Speaker 2: I've been very vocal that I'm not a big fan
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  Speaker 2: of radio silences scream films, but I like everything else
• 11:33
  Speaker 2: they do.
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  Speaker 4: No, that's fair. I mean everything before they everything before
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  Speaker 4: they worked on with before Scream with everything.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, everything in between, and since I scream, I just
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  Speaker 2: like the only of the Scream films they did was
• 11:52
  Speaker 2: it they did five and six? Six was the one
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  Speaker 2: that kind of felt the most like them.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Five, I think, like, I'm.
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  Speaker 2: Not gonna let this be an anti Scream podcast, but
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  Speaker 2: the fact that everyone swears by Scream, I just don't
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  Speaker 2: Scream five. I just don't get it. It's a retreat
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  Speaker 2: of like, I get it. It's supposed to be a
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  Speaker 2: you know, I get what they're doing because it is
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  Speaker 2: a reimagine, remake, whatever the fuck they want to call it,
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  Speaker 2: and they're doing it all again. But all the themes
• 12:21
  Speaker 2: they're hitting they literally just did in Scream four and
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  Speaker 2: they did better.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, I don't think.
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  Speaker 3: I don't like that film, but whatever, But ready or
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  Speaker 3: not too? Good time?
• 12:32
  Speaker 4: Good time? Yeah, I really.
• 12:37
  Speaker 2: The last thing I watched was I watched a Spike
• 12:39
  Speaker 2: Lee film called Mo Beta Blues that I'm doing for
• 12:42
  Speaker 2: my podcast. It is Spike Lee's follow up to Do
• 12:48
  Speaker 2: the Right Thing, where Denzel Washington plays a jazz musician,
• 12:55
  Speaker 2: and it's so fucking good.
• 12:57
  Speaker 4: N Yeah, Gabby, just watch Do the Right Thing for
• 13:01
  Speaker 4: the first time and was like, Oh, I knew that
• 13:04
  Speaker 4: was gonna be good, but man, that was that was
• 13:06
  Speaker 4: That was a hard watch.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 13:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, now you gotta dig Now you gotta dig in
• 13:11
  Speaker 2: through more of Spike Whe's filmographer, you like, he's like
• 13:13
  Speaker 2: not don't get me wrong, not every film he makes
• 13:15
  Speaker 2: is great, but his films are always interesting in my opinion.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, let's see. So I have watched some
• 13:24
  Speaker 4: things and some stuff new for this year. Although don't
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  Speaker 4: let the twenty twenty five release date fool you, because
• 13:30
  Speaker 4: it released on Shutter May twenty nine for us. It
• 13:33
  Speaker 4: is called Smothered. It is written by Joco Anwar, who
• 13:38
  Speaker 4: I had on the podcast last year. I don't know you. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: it's really good. I went into it blind knowing that
• 13:49
  Speaker 4: Joko Anhir had written it. He also produced it, and
• 13:53
  Speaker 4: he also edited it. So just go watch it. It's good.
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  Speaker 4: It's Indonesian, it's it's not listed as horror, but it's
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  Speaker 4: totally a horror movie.
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  Speaker 3: So whatever, Uh, it's it's horror, it's at least horror.
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  Speaker 4: It's at least horror adjacent. Watch the original King Kong
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  Speaker 4: versus Godzilla. And I didn't realize this, but I watched
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  Speaker 4: the Americanized one and not the Japanese one, which is
• 14:16
  Speaker 4: probably why they were speaking English.
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  Speaker 3: It was a pretty good tip off.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so we can have conversations about that throughout this episode.
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  Speaker 4: We can. We can, because man, did they do my
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  Speaker 4: boy dirty King Kong. I was like my review, I
• 14:35
  Speaker 4: know this is from nineteen sixty two, but Kong looks
• 14:38
  Speaker 4: like a muppet reject, Like, you, come on, he looks
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  Speaker 4: so goofy three out of five.
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  Speaker 3: Have you seen the original King Kong.
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  Speaker 4: When I was very young?
• 14:49
  Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, because like he looks he looks kind of
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  Speaker 2: goofy in that one too, but he's claymation.
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  Speaker 3: But yes, that was gonna be my point.
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  Speaker 2: I like his design alt but yeah, king uh his
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  Speaker 2: designing gut in King Kong versus Godzilla is.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's it's then. So so these were all
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  Speaker 4: in one day. I went on a tear I did,
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  Speaker 4: and then I did Godzilla versus Gong. Forgot that Millie
• 15:20
  Speaker 4: Bobby Brown was in this fucking don't care about her
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  Speaker 4: in this movie, just like I didn't care about her
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  Speaker 4: and King of Monsters.
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  Speaker 2: Oh man, I forgot she's in that movie too. Yeah,
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: and then yeah, like Tyree Henderson from Like Atlanta also
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  Speaker 2: in that movie.
• 15:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and then the kid from Deadpool too that I
• 15:36
  Speaker 4: just can't stand is in that movie, and I was like,
• 15:40
  Speaker 4: much like King of Monsters, this movie would have benefited
• 15:43
  Speaker 4: one hundred percent more with one hundred percent less Milly
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  Speaker 4: Bobby Brown. Uh. Then I finally got to watch.
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  Speaker 3: The News by Henderson is great in that role.
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  Speaker 2: The movie could have just been about him and being
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: a conspiracy theorist and it would have been great.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, he's fantastic. And he's in the New Empire as well,
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  Speaker 4: which this is definitely one of the better Monster Verse movies,
• 16:05
  Speaker 4: the New Empire, because it's big dumb fun we have
• 16:10
  Speaker 4: at this point, I have accepted the whole hollow planet
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  Speaker 4: theory whatever, that's the world we live in. This is
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  Speaker 4: big dumb fun. And someone appears, a Kaiju appears that
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  Speaker 4: I did not expect, and I was like, ah, this
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  Speaker 4: is amazing.
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  Speaker 2: And on top of that, you get to watch King
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  Speaker 2: Kong beat a monkey with a smaller monkey.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, and I'll say this too, Mini Kong over
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  Speaker 4: Baby Godzilla any goddamn day of the week.
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  Speaker 2: Like I've always been a ride or Die Godzilla guy,
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  Speaker 2: but I love King Kong, but in these movies, I'm
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  Speaker 2: always fucking rooting for Kong and like, man, those monkeys
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  Speaker 2: made me cry.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. Man, I was not expecting a whole character arc
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  Speaker 4: with a clan of monkeys, but that one was.
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  Speaker 2: Expecting Dan Stevens to be the coolest fucking dentist ever.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. I didn't know that was Dan Stevens because is
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  Speaker 4: that his real accent or is the did he put
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  Speaker 4: on an accent for that?
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  Speaker 3: He's from England, so I don't remember what accent he
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  Speaker 3: was doing in that movie.
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  Speaker 4: It was definitely some sort of a British accent.
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  Speaker 3: Very well could be okay, and I've.
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  Speaker 4: Only ever seen him do the American accents, I guess.
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  Speaker 4: But my biggest problem with this movie is why they
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  Speaker 4: turned Rebecca Hall. Like my review who decided the absolute
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: that the absolutely stunning Rebecca Hall should be turned into
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  Speaker 4: Justin Bieber, because what the fuck was that haircut? You
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  Speaker 4: literally took one of the prettiest women on the face
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  Speaker 4: of this earth and made her look I didn't even
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  Speaker 4: know it was Rebecca Hall for like fifteen minutes of
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  Speaker 4: the movie, and then I was like, is that Rebecca Hall? Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: it is, girl, who let you do that hair?
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  Speaker 2: No, no, no, she kind of pulls it off, though
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  Speaker 2: I feel like like she pulls it off better than
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  Speaker 2: Scar Joe does.
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  Speaker 4: I guess that's true. And then in preparation for or
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  Speaker 4: this movie today, I watched Gamera the Giant Monster from
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  Speaker 4: nineteen sixty five. Not nearly as compelling of a story
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  Speaker 4: as Godzilla as that was, as this was his origin story,
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  Speaker 4: and it's really lacking on the humanity aspect of this movie.
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  Speaker 4: It just feels disjointed. The pacing is very uneven. The
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  Speaker 4: government's plan to destroy Gamera is just constantly changing and just.
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  Speaker 4: But it's a giant turtle wrecking shit and he's my
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: favorite Kaiju four stars out of five. Really like that one.
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: And then I watched Leviticus from this year. It follows
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: basically kind of a queer it follows, and even though
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: it has almost the basic same premise, wildly different movie totally.
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: I feel like I feel like you and Ryan Varrall
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: talking about that on the last What the Right One
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: in episode?
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: Uh, we might have mentioned it. Yeah, But I was
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: for a movie that I thought was gonna be very derivative,
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: completely different tone, completely different emotions. It was so good.
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: Four and a half out of five. That's gonna be
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: probably on my top ten of the year. Very very good.
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: That's all I've that's all I've watched. Gamera the Giant
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: Monster was part of my CMC Movie Challenge for this year.
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: It was Aero Video Week, so that's what I did,
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: and then I didn't get to get to I think
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: it's Key j you Win who directed I saw The
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: Devil and Tale of Two Sisters. I think it's Key
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: ju Win. I believe I'll Devil check right now, but
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: I was gonna watch a Tale of Two Sisters. It's
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: literally not available anywhere. I can't even fucking rent this movie,
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: so I don't know what I'm supposed to do here.
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: I thought there was a physical release of it. Oh
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: Kim g Woon, there we go. I thought there was
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: a physical copy. I can't track one down, so I'm
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: just gonna have to rewatch. I saw The Devil, Oh No,
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: because that we was so terrible. It was so bad.
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: So that'll be on the next episode. But with all
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: that being said, let's move on to the body count. Man.
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: So this is Gamara versus Virus from nineteen sixty eight.
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: Really su on March twentieth of that year in Japan.
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: No release in the US because it was later released
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: in the US as What Michael Destroyed All.
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: Planets, Destroy All Planets, and it was released not theatrically,
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: but it was. It was specifically released on television on
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: January first, nineteen seventy.
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: Oh my god.
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: So this has It's not American International by American International Pictures,
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: which is important because American International Pictures will simultaneously the
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: best and worst thing that happened to a lot of
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: foreign film because they were bringing foreign films to the
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: United States.
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: Yay, but then they're always over dubbing.
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: Them and drastically changing them to double B.
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, like you know, they knew their audience.
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: This is not rated also with no content advisory on
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: IMDb whatever. This has a run time of TBA. I'm
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: gonna and we'll talk about fucking. There's a whole there's
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: three goddamn different versions of this movie. And I didn't
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: know that till the last minute, last minute. Yeah, oh
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: my voice. Listen as an adventure family fantasy sci fi
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: directed by Noriaki uas Usa. He also directed the original
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: Kamara the Giant Monster, which is crazy, and then he
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: directed Gamera Versus Gios and then Gamera Versus guy Ran,
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: which doesn't make any sense because we'll talk about it.
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: We'll talk about it later, but it pisses me.
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, he's uh, he's kind of uh the shiro
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: Honda of.
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: The Dai Yai films.
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah. He also, you know, would go on to do
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: some ultraman and you know how I feel about Ultraman.
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, he's until we get to the film.
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: Written by Nissan Takahashi. He also wrote Gamarra The Giant Monster,
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: Gamera Versus Baan, and Gava Gamera Versus Gaios. How do
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: you say that? Composed by Kanjiro Hiroji no other Kaiju films,
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: but has a just a ridiculous amounts of credits. He
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: did this one and was like, that's enough, no more Kaiju.
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: Cinematography by Akira Kidazaki, who also did the cinematography for
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: Gamera Versus Guyran, Gamera Versus Jaiger, and Gamera Super Monster,
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: so they've all worked on right. Edited by Shoji Seka Gucci,
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: who only directed nine other things I haven't heard of,
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: and this was his last film he edited, starring Kojiri
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: Haga as Scoutmaster mister Shimada. He was also in uh
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: Gamera Versus Babagan as Katsuki Herada. Then we have tore
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: Yu Taksuta, who has played Masawa Nakaya. He only has
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: two other credits for movies with Japanese titles that I
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: can pronounce. We have Carl Craig as who I am
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: dubbing fucking Jim Carl Craig.
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: What did I say, fucking Jim.
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah, fucking Jim. Carl Craig is fucking Jim.
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: He only has two other credits that are upcoming apparently,
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: so there's that. And then we have Michiko Yaikega as
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: Mariko this was her only movie and Mari Atsumi as
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: junk Go Aoki, who has thirty other credits with Japanese titles.
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: I can pronounce. Estimated budget of NA worldwide box office
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: grows of NAM in Die is It? Is It? Die?
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: Is?
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: That? Is that? How you say this? I've always pronounced
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: A that makes more sense. Tokyo Studios Japan. You can
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: watch this on to be where you watched it, and
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: then movies that.
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: Came out of recommend it.
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: I would not recommend it. Movies that came out around
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: the same time two thousand and one of Space Odyssey,
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: Rosemary's Baby, Planet of the Ages, Yours Mind and Hours,
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: which I didn't realize was that remake I saw with
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: Dennis Quaid and the Lost Content. Yeah, I am dB summary. Gamara,
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: the flying Turtle falls under the spell of evil aliens,
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: but two children free him and he returns to fight
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: the alien monster virus. That is not what happens. Let's
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: go into the autopsy. That's gross, gross, all right, Michael,
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: I subjected this this movie to you for you to watch. Regret.
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: I regret every everything, mainly because I didn't know about
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: the three different titles. But on the version that you watched,
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: which is the Americanized version.
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: Overall thoughts, it's pretty bad. It's pretty bad. I gave. Well,
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: I'm not I don't want to spoil.
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: Don't bury the lead.
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: But I it's pretty fucking bad. I can usually like
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: hang in there for a movie that I'm not fully into,
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: but I once we got to this very specific like
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: I was okay when I first started it, I was like, Okay,
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: there's you know, I can I can put past the bad,
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: Like how bad this movie looks like?
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: I watched movie.
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: I still watch movies on vhs, so like I can,
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: I can put that away for a second and kind
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: of get on this movie's wavelength. I don't necessarily love
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: that it's the dubbed version, because I wanted to see the.
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: Way that this movie was intended to be seen. That
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: wasn't an option.
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: I tried, fucking Apparently there was a version of it
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: on Amazon that if I would have gotten a subscription to,
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: like one of their services is on there, like a
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: free trial, could have watched. It wasn't working, so I
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: couldn't watch that.
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: So it was like, okay. I even checked a YouTube,
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: and versions in YouTube were even fucking worse. So I
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: was like, okay, I'm just gonna put up with this.
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: And I was into it.
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: For a little bit, and then a very specific sequence
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: happened in the middle of the film, well we will.
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: Talk about and I fucking checked out.
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: I was done, and that was done espec because that
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: very specific sequence had very little context. There was like
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: no like narration or anything. It was just twenty minutes,
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: we'll get to it. Yeah, there was nothing like trying
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: to keep me, trying to propel the narrative at all.
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: No, no, not at all. My overall thoughts, there shouldn't
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: be three versions of this movie. There should just be
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: the theatrical version, which we will talk about later. I
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: like the idea of aliens taking over Gomera and controlling him,
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: but when you waste ninety percent of your plot on that,
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: and the last ten minutes are a monster fight of miniatures,
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: not even suit mation. We didn't get any suit mation
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: in this movie. There was zero suit mation outside of
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: the cut the flashbacks. So this did not check any
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: boxes for me in a Kaiju film other than seeing
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: Gamera do all his flying turtlely shit. That was about it.
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: So not yeah, flying turtle shit.
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah. So let's break this down. Okay, you have the
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: theatrical version seventy two minutes, ideally the best choice. This
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: is the original Japanese release. When the aliens immobilize Gamera,
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: this cuts to a very brief montage of his past battles,
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: making it the most fast paced action.
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: Then there's way, way way so that happened. That happens
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: right away?
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: No, after they immobilize him at the same time, yeah,
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: at the same at the same point and at time
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: and each cut, so okay the directors, Yeah, my bad.
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: The director's version ten minutes longer, or sorry, nine minutes longer,
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: and the flash the flashback sequence is all of those nine.
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: Minutes, and then he own flashbacks.
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah, which is really weird, very strange. And then the
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: US extended version just extends those flashbacks ten minutes more,
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: so we're not.
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: Well, it's not just those splashbacks. They also use a
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: lot more stock footage.
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: Oh used as.
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: Well, and part of that is because it had to
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: fit for television, so they had to fit into a
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: ninety minute film block, which would then come out to
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: about two hours with ads.
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: So yeah, this is one of those.
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: The whole reason Halloween.
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: Fun fact, that's the whole reason Halloween shut extra footage
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: back in the day so it could fit into a
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: longer time block.
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that is a shorter movie. So yeah, this
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: is one of those times where the director's cut not
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: the better cut. It does nothing to the movie that
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: it doesn't add any additional scenes. Well I mean, I
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: guess it does, but not scenes that are fucking relevant.
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: So those are the three different versions. I was flabberg
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: acid when I get when to play on the movie
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: on my arrow version, and it was like, which version
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: do you want to watch? I have to look this
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: up because I don't know which one did you watch, Michael, Oh,
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: the one that was arguably the worst? Perfect? I'm glad that. Yeah,
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: I'm glad I did this. Now. Typically, typically we talk
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: about kind of just we've done it a little different
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: this year. You know, we talk about themes and subtext
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: and just kind of various points. No, no, we're talking
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: just we're basically just gonna run through this movie at
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: this point because I just have questions that aren't gonna
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: get answer, but i'd have to say them out loud.
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: So and I'm referring to the spinning fucking the virus,
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: you know, like the spaceship that has virus. It's it's
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: called Bumblebee. So anytime I say Bumblebee, that's what I'm
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: referring to because it looks like a giant bumblebee. And
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: I was really excited. I was really excited when the
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: movie opened because I was like, Oh, that's a really
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: cool spaceship. I like that it's heading towards Earth. It's
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: there's a disembodied voice being like this this this, it
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: seems to be this captain but it's also seems to
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: be answering to this higher presence on the ship. Now,
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: this higher presence I'm speaking of never actually says anything,
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: and I'm only assuming this because this disembodied voice is
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: like commanding orders to be executed. Genuinely, so confused, there's
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: not a soul on this ship right now. Later there
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: will be who is this disembodied embodied voice talking to
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: why does this plant? Why do they even want to
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: invade Earth? To begin with? What is happening here? WHOA?
• 31:06
  Speaker 4: What's going on?
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: Not gonna lie?
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: I was also struggling with the beginning exposition, because I
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: think I sent you a picture. My image was like
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: looking through a fucking glass of beer. It was so
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: fucking yellow that I was so distracted that I kind
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: of wasn't even sure what the fuck they were talking about.
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and and mine was very clean is arrow? You
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: know they did a great restoration.
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: Well erro we are arrow stands.
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so very very interesting to say the least. But
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: then our giant totally boy shows up spinning around with
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: this flames and shit and yeah, and was like nah ah,
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: not today, and wrecks the ship just before we can
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: have one of the greatest moments of this movie where
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: the ship is still the film, the fucking ship is
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: talking and he's like, we have discovered a giant, terrible
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: creature protecting Earth. Its name is and then it just
• 32:04
  Speaker 4: shows Gamera on screen, and I was.
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: Like, it's even funnier. So, oh my god, So I'm glad,
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: so glad.
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: We watched two different versions of this film because it
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: was even funnier in the American version because they have
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: that moment we can tell that its name is and
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: then smashes cut to the smash cuts to the title
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: destroy all Planets.
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: No, that's not how it works.
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: They could have dubbed it the name Gamerara, but instead
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: they smash cut to a title that doesn't say his name.
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: His name is Destroy all Planets. Did you also get
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: a Gamera theme song with your title sequence?
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: I honestly don't remember.
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: It was like Gamara.
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: Oh no, I don't think that was in I don't
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: know what that was in my version.
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he's like, he's a protector of the planet.
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: I need to go back and check. Austin. I'm not
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: gonna say this to you in person. Cut this out.
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna I'm gonna go I've got to be loaded
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: up right now.
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah, see if you have the opening see if you
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: have the opening theme song, because I was like, are
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: we really getting a Kamara themes?
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: Definitely didn't get that.
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: Oh man, you didn't need that was so cool? Okay, well.
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: I don't know it says that.
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: I also see destroyal Planets gammera Versus Virus opening theme
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: US version, and that is not what I fucking heard
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: in the version I just played to you.
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: It's all a mystery, all right.
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: Well so I don't think so.
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: All right, So let's cut to our main story here.
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: So you have these boy scouts and girl Scouts, which
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: I don't think intermingle at the same time. But what
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: do I know. I've never done either one of those things.
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: And yeah, you've got I.
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: Don't want to stay out in nature as a kid.
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: I was what you call an indoor boy me too.
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: We have Masseo and fucking Jim because what the hell,
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: and they run off to this lab for reasons, because
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: they're hooligans.
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: And they also just let these kids go Well we'll
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: get to that. I was gonna say, they just let
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: them go into a fucking submarine.
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: On their own.
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's common. And the girl there has this watch
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: that Masseo created that gives her his exact location coordinates,
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: like the degree He's like, he's forty eight degrees west.
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: And she can also communicate through this thing. And I'm like,
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: all right, futuristic technology with no explanation. Sure, but they are.
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: They come across the submarine and then decide to fuck
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: with the controls. It's a prank, and I'm like, that's
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: not very much of a prank. That's a no.
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: That's like that killed billionaires recently.
• 34:54
  Speaker 4: That's all I could think of when when I saw
• 34:56
  Speaker 4: the little miniature going up and down and back and forth,
• 34:58
  Speaker 4: and I was like, I'm just seeing water Gate or
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: what is Watergate Jesus Christ whatever it was called Seagate,
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: that whatever that exploded at the bottom of the ocean.
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: So they they come back to roll call, and that
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: roll call, the scout master is like, Hey, this is
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: gonna be really cool. Everyone's gonna get a ride in
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: the submarine from the lab. And the kids are like, oh,
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: the one that we just fucked up. And okay, I
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: have to bring this up because I had nothing better
• 35:25
  Speaker 4: to do with my life since I was sick and
• 35:27
  Speaker 4: My wife was already in bed and I was watching this.
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: There's one hundred and fifteen kids on this fucking beach,
• 35:32
  Speaker 4: right and all of them are going to get a ride.
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: It seats two fucking people. That's fifty eight rides. Okay,
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: So if you if we say in total that from loading.
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: Do you legally count the kids? Jesus Christ.
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: No, they just said there was at the beginning. They said, yeah,
• 35:49
  Speaker 4: there's one hundred and fifteen kids, only one hundred and
• 35:51
  Speaker 4: thirteen present, So fifty eight rides. Let's just say twenty
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: minutes apiece for each ride, which is very conservative. That
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: is eleven hundred and fifty minutes, which breaks down to
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: nineteen point two hours. How long are we are we
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: doing like three eight hour days here? Because what the fuck? Anyways,
• 36:09
  Speaker 4: I digress. You'd think Gamera would stay out in space,
• 36:14
  Speaker 4: given that he just destroyed one of these things that
• 36:17
  Speaker 4: was coming towards Earth and there's probably gonna be another one,
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: especially because they said send out vehicle number two to
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: head this way. But no, my boy's just out there
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: living his best life, swimming in the sea, racing this
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: little submarine because Masseo and fucking Jim Go down in
• 36:33
  Speaker 4: there and are racing around with Gamera, and then you know,
• 36:37
  Speaker 4: Bumblebee comes down and shoots this containment ray that just yeah,
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: fucking contains Gamera at the bottom of the ocean, and
• 36:48
  Speaker 4: they're like, we're gonna investigate Gamara's mind and see where
• 36:53
  Speaker 4: he came from and what his past is like and
• 36:55
  Speaker 4: how we can control him, which, really, when you think
• 36:58
  Speaker 4: about how they control him later, none of that is
• 37:01
  Speaker 4: fucking relevant because if you have complete control over his
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: entire functions, what is seeing his weaknesses? Oh, I guess
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: seeing his weaknesses would be good to know.
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: Where he wins. He wins every fight exactly.
• 37:16
  Speaker 4: So that doesn't even make sense. And this is where
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: the movie inserts in my version, twelve minutes of flashbacks
• 37:24
  Speaker 4: to previous Gamera Versus movies. Totally unnecessary, makes zero sense.
• 37:31
  Speaker 4: It's like a highlight reel and you got twenty.
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: Minutes adding the run Yeah, they're padding the run.
• 37:36
  Speaker 4: Time, padding the run time. Only gets stranger from here, Okay,
• 37:41
  Speaker 4: Bumblebee decides to extort Gamera by taking Masel and fucking
• 37:46
  Speaker 4: Jim hostage. If Gamera destroys the ship, they kill the boys.
• 37:52
  Speaker 4: That's dark as shit. That is so dark for a
• 37:56
  Speaker 4: Kaiju movie. They're like game.
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: Typically for children.
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: Specifically. The director even said in part of the trivia
• 38:04
  Speaker 4: that I will read later, I guess I'll just say
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: it now. He said this is one of his favorites
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: because it is directly geared towards kids. Yet you are
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: threatening to kill kids, and later on, fucking Jim and
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: Masseo are like, we don't care about our lives, just
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: shoot the ship down. This is some dark.
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: They're sacrificing themselves to protect the planet, like Jesus.
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: Good lord guys. So yeah, Eventually Bumblebee uses the mind
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: control technique on Gamera so they can use him at will,
• 38:42
  Speaker 4: and like, I genuinely think that's pretty cool, right, But
• 38:44
  Speaker 4: it doesn't make sense. It doesn't make sense because when
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: you think about it, this it's not even a guide you,
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: it's a fucking it's a spaceship. They came down to
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: destroy Earth and they're like we have to just yeah.
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: But and then once they run into Gamara, they're like,
• 39:02
  Speaker 4: we have to destroy him first. So once you take
• 39:05
  Speaker 4: over his mind, I know this is gonna sound dark.
• 39:08
  Speaker 4: You make him kill himself? Why are you making him
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: destroy Tokyo? Like I don't understand make him do something
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: to himself that kills him. It doesn't even make sense.
• 39:19
  Speaker 4: So they use him to basically wreck all of Tokyo
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: and all this shit. But then we actually find out
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: that there are humanoids on Bumblebee, and it's not revealed
• 39:31
  Speaker 4: who they are until so much later in the movie.
• 39:35
  Speaker 4: There's like four or five of them. They have normal,
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: regular faces until one moment when they have these horrifying
• 39:44
  Speaker 4: led light bulb eyes, do.
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: You remember, which is cool?
• 39:50
  Speaker 4: But then seconds later when they cut back to the
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: kids and then cut back to the guys, they're just
• 39:55
  Speaker 4: normal again, and I'm like, Okay, I don't know what
• 39:57
  Speaker 4: we're doing with the effects here. It's very strange. Now,
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: around forty eight minutes into my version, which was an
• 40:05
  Speaker 4: hour and twenty one minutes, our bad guy shows up
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: virus but he's trapped. He's trapped in this cage and
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: he's like human size. He's not much taller than the guys,
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: and he looks great except for his eyes, because his
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: eyes do the same thing as Gamero where they shift
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: back and forth. But you know, Gamra's eyes are on
• 40:25
  Speaker 4: the side of his head, so it looks normal. Fucking
• 40:28
  Speaker 4: Virus' eyes are slight like just slanted up drastically, so
• 40:32
  Speaker 4: when the eyes moved back and forth, it looked crazy.
• 40:35
  Speaker 4: Am I am I alone with that feeling. No, the
• 40:40
  Speaker 4: eyes just looked like they were going cross side.
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it wasn't wasn't good.
• 40:46
  Speaker 4: It wasn't good. And I love It's like a kind
• 40:48
  Speaker 4: of a squid design. It's got six tentacles and you know,
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: kind of a spear head. Whatever you want's what everyone
• 40:57
  Speaker 4: is think. And he's not even fighting Gamert this point,
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: so no, he just sits there. And then Bumblebee is
• 41:05
  Speaker 4: ordering Gamera to go destroy a damn, which is really
• 41:08
  Speaker 4: the only new footage we get of Gamera destroying things
• 41:12
  Speaker 4: is that damn. And there might have been some minor
• 41:15
  Speaker 4: suitnation there, but I'm pretty sure it was still all
• 41:17
  Speaker 4: miniatures because I could see strings on nearly every scene
• 41:21
  Speaker 4: involving Gamera, which if there's strings involved in it, it's
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: a miniature, which I love a good miniature. I think
• 41:27
  Speaker 4: we all do at this point too.
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: I do too. I've always liked a miniature. But like, honestly,
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: the biggest.
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: Thing I have to say is just the film felt cheap.
• 41:40
  Speaker 4: It felt lazy.
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it just felt like it feels like they
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: didn't have enough story, they didn't have enough money.
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: So look, let's just keep reusing shit.
• 41:50
  Speaker 4: We have all of these other things that we could
• 41:52
  Speaker 4: be using, so let's just do that. And then when
• 41:56
  Speaker 4: they order him to destroy Tokyo and he does, that's
• 42:00
  Speaker 4: we get stock footage from the original Gamarra movie of
• 42:04
  Speaker 4: him destroying Tokyo. And I know it was from that
• 42:07
  Speaker 4: movie one because the film looked entirely different h quality
• 42:12
  Speaker 4: wise and white. It was in black and white, but
• 42:16
  Speaker 4: they but it's almost like the Yeah, for some reason,
• 42:20
  Speaker 4: it's in black and white, but it feels like they
• 42:22
  Speaker 4: tried to colorize it. I don't know. It's very weird.
• 42:26
  Speaker 4: So that was stock footage because and I also know
• 42:28
  Speaker 4: too because I remember him specifically stomping on that bridge
• 42:32
  Speaker 4: at one point. And then they order him to destroy
• 42:35
  Speaker 4: the fuel station, and I'm like, oh my god, are
• 42:37
  Speaker 4: we really gonna get reused footage of him destroying all
• 42:39
  Speaker 4: of those oil tankers, because like, what the fuck? I
• 42:42
  Speaker 4: didn't get that in mind, but I thought we were so, oh,
• 42:48
  Speaker 4: this isn't crazy enough. At this point, this is where
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: Maso and fucking Jem say that they don't care about living,
• 42:55
  Speaker 4: and it's communicated to the wristwatch. They communicate, we don't
• 42:59
  Speaker 4: care about living. Just destroy the ship, just take just
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: take us down. We'll sacrifice ourselves, our lives mean nothing.
• 43:06
  Speaker 4: Very weird for a kid's movie to do. And the
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: scout Master this is this is my favorite part of
• 43:12
  Speaker 4: the movie, and not for good reasons, because the scout
• 43:15
  Speaker 4: Masters like, I know the prank you did on the submarine,
• 43:18
  Speaker 4: just do the same prank on the ship and it'll work.
• 43:24
  Speaker 4: And I'm like, that doesn't even make logical sense. What
• 43:28
  Speaker 4: do you mean?
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: This reminds me of did you see Terminator Salvation, the
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: one of Christian Bale.
• 43:35
  Speaker 4: That's that's one of the ones that I have not seen.
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: Well, there is a point in that movie where he's
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: trying to hack into Skynet and he used he hacks
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: into it the same way that he used to hack
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: into ATMs in Terminator two, So that's same energy.
• 43:53
  Speaker 4: It just made no sense. And not only do these
• 43:57
  Speaker 4: kids manage to escape the trap that they were placed in,
• 44:03
  Speaker 4: but they find the system controlling Gomera open up this
• 44:08
  Speaker 4: flap and literally take two of these triangular shaped things
• 44:13
  Speaker 4: and just swap them problem solved.
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: I think we We also didn't touch on the fucking
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: sandwiches that come like that. They just can order from
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: the space ship.
• 44:24
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, because it all works on telepathy. They ordered yea,
• 44:28
  Speaker 4: and I was like, what the fuck kind of sandwiches
• 44:30
  Speaker 4: are those?
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: I want a sandwich, wall say.
• 44:33
  Speaker 4: It was like an octagon shaped sandwich. I'm assuming that
• 44:36
  Speaker 4: had some sort of crab and seafood and cucumber in it.
• 44:39
  Speaker 4: It looked delicious.
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: But yeah, even in my copy, it looked pretty.
• 44:44
  Speaker 4: Good, even with all of the yellow over it.
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: I need that sandwich space sandwich.
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: Space. Yeah, I eat the space sandwich. They got drinks.
• 44:56
  Speaker 4: But it's also weird that the ship will take orders
• 44:59
  Speaker 4: from people who aren't the you know, in charge of
• 45:05
  Speaker 4: the ship. It just kind of takes orders. Fucking nuts.
• 45:11
  Speaker 4: So and then they go around to these other things
• 45:14
  Speaker 4: too and just start switching more stuff. And the thing
• 45:18
  Speaker 4: that the thing that trapped Gamera in the bubble, which
• 45:22
  Speaker 4: for some reason didn't bring him up to the ship,
• 45:25
  Speaker 4: but it brought up the kids to the ship. I
• 45:28
  Speaker 4: don't know why. I'm not even gonna try and explain that,
• 45:31
  Speaker 4: but it's like this little thing that put the bubble
• 45:33
  Speaker 4: on the ground and then it shoots the kids up
• 45:35
  Speaker 4: into the spaceship. Well, they reversed the mechanics on that
• 45:39
  Speaker 4: so that way they hop in the bubble on the
• 45:41
  Speaker 4: spaceship and it shoots them down. And I'm like, this
• 45:44
  Speaker 4: is all I'm okay with like a logical things and
• 45:47
  Speaker 4: movies like, you know, like, fuck it, I'll take that.
• 45:50
  Speaker 4: I think I explained this on the last the last episode,
• 45:53
  Speaker 4: we did like fuck it logic versus what the fuck logic, Like, yeah,
• 45:59
  Speaker 4: it works, but I'm not taking it here because this
• 46:01
  Speaker 4: is this is no, this is nonsensical. Yeah, so it's
• 46:06
  Speaker 4: just ridiculous. So they eventually get off the ship and
• 46:10
  Speaker 4: another one of my favorite parts of this movie is
• 46:12
  Speaker 4: the second they get off the ship and they're talking,
• 46:14
  Speaker 4: are like, oh, it worked, and then they looked up.
• 46:16
  Speaker 4: They're like, oh my god, the spaceship run away like
• 46:18
  Speaker 4: the space that you just came down from. You're surprised
• 46:21
  Speaker 4: this still there. Oh my god. So it turns out
• 46:26
  Speaker 4: that these humanoid beings on the ship are all virus
• 46:30
  Speaker 4: creatures hiding in bodies, and then they all which is
• 46:35
  Speaker 4: great when they all just like not he knocked all
• 46:37
  Speaker 4: the heads off that was pretty great. I thought that
• 46:39
  Speaker 4: was really fun. So all of the Virus creatures consume
• 46:44
  Speaker 4: each other. It's like, what was that care of Voltron.
• 46:48
  Speaker 4: It's like they all stack up and become one giant monster.
• 46:51
  Speaker 4: That's what happens. So Virus goes from this teeny tiny
• 46:57
  Speaker 4: yeah yeah you mighty more for Power Rangers where they
• 46:59
  Speaker 4: all attached to each other and becomes something larger.
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: So this, all, by the way, one of my favorite,
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: one of my favorite tropes just period. Yeah, when things
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: come together and becomes something bigger, love it, love it.
• 47:11
  Speaker 4: And I wasn't expecting that to happen because I was like, Okay,
• 47:14
  Speaker 4: the creature's gonna have to get bigger, because there's if
• 47:16
  Speaker 4: Gamara is gonna fight Virus, he's just gonna step on
• 47:19
  Speaker 4: him and that's gonna be the end of it. But yeah, he,
• 47:22
  Speaker 4: you know, gets bigger, and it gets bigger, and then
• 47:24
  Speaker 4: he finally bursts out of the ship and this happens
• 47:27
  Speaker 4: with eleven minutes of the movie remaining, and so it's like,
• 47:33
  Speaker 4: so Gamera versus Virus, I mean, really, you don't even
• 47:36
  Speaker 4: know that the people on the ship are because he
• 47:40
  Speaker 4: said we viruses are the superior beings, and I'm like, oh,
• 47:44
  Speaker 4: you guys are okay. I was. I wasn't sure who
• 47:47
  Speaker 4: Virus was at this point, and you don't find that
• 47:49
  Speaker 4: out until like fifty minutes into the movie. So Gamera
• 47:52
  Speaker 4: Versus Virus is really the last eleven minutes of the movie,
• 47:56
  Speaker 4: all miniatures fighting each other, which really felt like a
• 47:59
  Speaker 4: slap the face because I didn't get it. I didn't
• 48:02
  Speaker 4: get any suit mation fighting, and that pissed me off.
• 48:05
  Speaker 4: At one point I thought we did when he was
• 48:07
  Speaker 4: on the ground crawling, and then there was a moment
• 48:10
  Speaker 4: where he lifted his head up and I saw the
• 48:11
  Speaker 4: string and I'm like, son of a bitch. So I
• 48:14
  Speaker 4: don't believe there was any suit mation in this.
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: No, but we did get to watch Gamera get fucking
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: impaled multiple.
• 48:20
  Speaker 4: Time and somehow not die. He bro went through his
• 48:26
  Speaker 4: chest plate three times, and the kids of him like
• 48:31
  Speaker 4: right in the middle of like where your heart would be,
• 48:33
  Speaker 4: and the kids are like, Gamera, Gamera, you know, use
• 48:36
  Speaker 4: your spinning flight. So he, you know, spins up into
• 48:40
  Speaker 4: the air with Virus attached to him, and he goes
• 48:43
  Speaker 4: up so high that Virus freezes and then falls to
• 48:46
  Speaker 4: the fucking you know Ocean and Dies end movie. What
• 48:52
  Speaker 4: the fuck did I just watch? I expected it to
• 48:57
  Speaker 4: be dumb and silly and had it. You know, it's
• 48:59
  Speaker 4: got a two points set of five on letterbox. I figured,
• 49:01
  Speaker 4: And this is the problem with the wild cards, right,
• 49:04
  Speaker 4: And that's why I pick this range specifically, because a
• 49:06
  Speaker 4: two point four to a two point nine is wild card.
• 49:11
  Speaker 4: That's what I call wild card territory. Sometimes it's people
• 49:14
  Speaker 4: not liking it for whatever reason, but it works for me.
• 49:18
  Speaker 4: Other times it's right on power and I'm like, Okay,
• 49:21
  Speaker 4: I see why this is bad. And this is this
• 49:24
  Speaker 4: movie is bad for just so many reasons because it's
• 49:28
  Speaker 4: it doesn't feel like it has anything new to tell.
• 49:31
  Speaker 4: It's telling old things about Gamarra. There's no suitnation. We're
• 49:36
  Speaker 4: so focused on children. There's you know, there are some
• 49:38
  Speaker 4: adults in this, but like, I don't really care about
• 49:42
  Speaker 4: these children, Like we're supposed to care about these children
• 49:45
  Speaker 4: who are just kind of assholes and they're constantly playing
• 49:48
  Speaker 4: pranks and they're just getting into shenanigans and then they
• 49:52
  Speaker 4: want to just kill themselves at one point, and you're
• 49:53
  Speaker 4: just like, how am I supposed to care about a
• 49:55
  Speaker 4: character that doesn't care about themselves.
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's just it's strange, Like.
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: It's kind of sad how quickly the Gamera films fall off.
• 50:07
  Speaker 3: The rails a little bit. Yeah, and it seems like.
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: Now I'm not as familiar with Gamera as I am
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: Godzilla or Ultraman or some of those other, you know,
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: big parts of Japanese culture. But I feel like, specifically
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: more in the Heisei era, people who grew up loving
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: Gamera start making the Gamera films they kind of wish
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: they had when they were younger, because like, this is.
• 50:38
  Speaker 3: Like the what the third or fourth movie.
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: In the Gamera franchise, and it's already falling off the
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: rails a bit.
• 50:46
  Speaker 4: I believe it is, yeah, like third or fourth, maybe fifth,
• 50:50
  Speaker 4: and it's and what it's what is baffling to me
• 50:54
  Speaker 4: is that, yes, the original Gamara the Giant Monster is
• 50:58
  Speaker 4: not the greatest, okay, Like like I said, it struggles
• 51:01
  Speaker 4: with pacing issues, especially for rely being like eighty there's
• 51:05
  Speaker 4: seventy eight minutes. It's short movie, it's like seventy eight minutes.
• 51:10
  Speaker 4: But there's things they do that contrast Toho that I
• 51:14
  Speaker 4: feel are good choices, Like I appreciate the restraint in
• 51:18
  Speaker 4: Godzilla nineteen fifty four. I really do. I think it
• 51:21
  Speaker 4: was a smart decision. And in this one, Kamara pops
• 51:25
  Speaker 4: out of the ice within five minutes and just starts
• 51:27
  Speaker 4: going fuck. He goes berserk, and I'm like, I like that.
• 51:30
  Speaker 4: It's like, it's like, Die, how did you say the
• 51:33
  Speaker 4: name again? Dah?
• 51:35
  Speaker 3: I don't know if it's correct, but I pronounce.
• 51:37
  Speaker 4: A die diya Okay. Yeah, It's like Die was like,
• 51:41
  Speaker 4: we know what people want, you know, the Giant Gamara.
• 51:46
  Speaker 4: The Giant Monster was sixty five, so about eleven years
• 51:49
  Speaker 4: after Godzilla, so they're like, people want to see Giant
• 51:53
  Speaker 4: Monster recon shit. And the destruction in that movie is great,
• 51:57
  Speaker 4: the miniatures are fantastic. He is just going on a
• 52:01
  Speaker 4: fucking spree in that movie, But it struggles ultimately on
• 52:04
  Speaker 4: the humanity side of things, where Godzilla really nails both,
• 52:09
  Speaker 4: like so perfectly the original and I do like the contrast,
• 52:14
  Speaker 4: but it does seem that they were trying to pump
• 52:16
  Speaker 4: out so many Gamera films in such a short amount
• 52:19
  Speaker 4: of time. And I mean, don't get me wrong, the
• 52:22
  Speaker 4: Shoa era of Godzilla pumps out a lot of them,
• 52:25
  Speaker 4: as well from fifty four to seventy five, but I
• 52:29
  Speaker 4: think Gamera pushes out almost the same amount, but with
• 52:33
  Speaker 4: ten years less of the show era because they started
• 52:36
  Speaker 4: in sixty five. So it's a weird contrast between Die
• 52:43
  Speaker 4: and Toho. But it seems to be that Toho really
• 52:49
  Speaker 4: has the humanity aspect and monster aspect balanced, where so
• 52:55
  Speaker 4: far from what I've seen, Gamera is not at all. Yeah,
• 53:01
  Speaker 4: but again it's like, I love maternally boy. He does
• 53:04
  Speaker 4: so many cool things. He's got fire breath, he can
• 53:07
  Speaker 4: inhale fire and heal himself. He has the the what
• 53:13
  Speaker 4: is it the the chest ray that he has. It's
• 53:17
  Speaker 4: like a laser ray that comes from his chest. Later on,
• 53:20
  Speaker 4: he also has the ability to bring the life from
• 53:24
  Speaker 4: the earth up. He's got a lot of cool powers
• 53:26
  Speaker 4: the plasma ray. But yeah, a lot of this stuff
• 53:29
  Speaker 4: I'm seeing. I'm like, man, this earlier work is rough. However,
• 53:33
  Speaker 4: in the High SI era that you mentioned of Gamarra,
• 53:38
  Speaker 4: they made four movies total, and all of those movies,
• 53:42
  Speaker 4: I think, at least the first two or three have
• 53:44
  Speaker 4: like three fives, three sixes, so it's like they course
• 53:48
  Speaker 4: corrected a little bit.
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: I wish those box sets weren't so expensive because I
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: really need them.
• 53:53
  Speaker 4: They're fifty nine bucks to pop on Amazon, so honestly
• 53:57
  Speaker 4: not terrible that I might need to, especially when you
• 54:03
  Speaker 4: get the Shola Era. Because the Showa Era has like
• 54:06
  Speaker 4: twelve films.
• 54:09
  Speaker 3: I need to just jump in and do it. I've
• 54:11
  Speaker 3: just and not something to do with this movie.
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: It just there's too many box that's coming out right
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: now and they all cost too much.
• 54:17
  Speaker 4: But continue, By the way, I don't know if this
• 54:20
  Speaker 4: will still be happening by the time this airs, but
• 54:22
  Speaker 4: there is a Criterion sale on Amazon and the Godzilla
• 54:26
  Speaker 4: Collection and Barns Noble and the Godzilla Collection. The Showa
• 54:30
  Speaker 4: Era is like one hundred and thirteen bucks right now,
• 54:33
  Speaker 4: which is pretty great. I snapped up. What did I
• 54:37
  Speaker 4: get Godzilla versus Bulah Destroyer Boulante? Oh, oh yes, because
• 54:45
  Speaker 4: it's a Criterion. Yeah, I have a Destroyer on a
• 54:47
  Speaker 4: double feature. But yeah, they have some some good stuff
• 54:51
  Speaker 4: going on Biolante. That's what it is.
• 54:53
  Speaker 3: There we go.
• 54:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it was like twenty two bucks. I was like, fuck, yeah,
• 54:57
  Speaker 4: so I got that.
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: That was one of the high save film. Uh yeah,
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: fun fact has nothing to do with Gamera.
• 55:05
  Speaker 3: Did you know that the UK had its own Godzilla
• 55:08
  Speaker 3: knockoff called Gorgo.
• 55:10
  Speaker 4: Yes, yes, I talked about that on TikTok and then
• 55:14
  Speaker 4: North Korea also had Yongari Monster from the Deep, which
• 55:20
  Speaker 4: are Yonghurri was not that great. But Gorgo Gorgo is
• 55:26
  Speaker 4: fucking good. I really like Gorgo. Gorgo's cool. It's mainly
• 55:31
  Speaker 4: because it's like such a different story than what we
• 55:34
  Speaker 4: see with Kaiju and how they like capture the monster
• 55:37
  Speaker 4: and tried to put it on display like that was
• 55:38
  Speaker 4: really cool. I like that. So Gamara versus Virus Man.
• 55:45
  Speaker 3: I wanted to love it. I wanted to love it.
• 55:47
  Speaker 3: I love the posters, I love the concept. I love
• 55:50
  Speaker 3: a turtlely boy.
• 55:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, this just isn't it. This just is not it,
• 55:56
  Speaker 4: and there's not a lot.
• 55:58
  Speaker 3: It actually frustrated me, and that's an unfortunate feeling.
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: Sorry, it's an unfortunate feeling to have when you are
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: a legitimate fan of Kaiju and uh took Usatsu.
• 56:13
  Speaker 3: Like suited heroes to just be frustrated.
• 56:18
  Speaker 4: That's how I felt too.
• 56:19
  Speaker 3: I was just frustrated, don't get me wrong.
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: Like, as an Ultraman fan, there are some Ultraman's that
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: just kind of suck, but that was they like twenty
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: five episodes a season.
• 56:28
  Speaker 3: They're not all going to rock. But man, Ultraman had
• 56:32
  Speaker 3: a fraction of this movie's budget and they do so
• 56:34
  Speaker 3: much more.
• 56:36
  Speaker 4: Well, is there there's Ultraman movies too, right.
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: There are, but Ultraman is mostly a television series. Listen
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: because there's an there are There are some Ultraman movies,
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: but it started off as a television series. Well, first
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: started off as ultra Q ultra Q. It was the
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: show in Japan that I think, imagine if you a
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: a Twilight Zone X Files type like like like like
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: type TV show about Kaiju where there's this organization that's
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: investigating these fucking uh uh disturbances that are happening uh
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: and it's usually tied to Kaiju. And that did really well.
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: And super Subiara uh which e g. Subayara, who was
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: the creative Ultraman. He was also the effects artist on
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: the early Godzilla films. And I was like, ship, let's
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: do something like this again. And so then they create Ultraman,
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: which is an alien that comes from another planet to
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: fight fucking Kaiju that are attacking Earth. And it always
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: has a human conduit that turns into Ultraman and then
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: every season, which is what they do in the UK
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: and in Japan and other countries, they just kind of
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: do a soft reboot, and you know, they create different
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: Ultramen and then eventually start tying them all together. They're
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: all from the same planet. But if you are a
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: fan of like Power Rangers Boston, I think you'd really
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: like Ultraman and you can get like the first season
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: of Ultraman from Milk Creek for like fucking pennies.
• 58:12
  Speaker 4: Well, and there's an original Ultraman from like the seventies
• 58:15
  Speaker 4: or eighties, and then they did her like that's what
• 58:17
  Speaker 4: I'm talking about, And then did they did they not
• 58:19
  Speaker 4: do a reboot later?
• 58:21
  Speaker 3: Oh? They did.
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: They They've been consistently making ultramn ultra Men every year
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: since like nineteen sixty six.
• 58:29
  Speaker 4: Geesy pizza, okay.
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: Almost every year since nineteen sixty six, and like now,
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: like in twenty twenty five, they had Ultraman Omega, which
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: was on Japanese television, and they're like said, there were
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: some Ultraman movies, not nothing huge. It was mostly a
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: television series, so.
• 58:52
  Speaker 4: It looked like the original was I know, they're wrong.
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: There were Ultraman movies, but sometimes they're either tie into
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: the TV show for their compilations.
• 59:03
  Speaker 3: I've bought.
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: I have so many of the Mill Creek Blu rays
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: that I have a lot of these movies I have.
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: I would be I'd have to go through and actually look,
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: but I feel like I have almost all of these
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: fucking ultramans here.
• 59:19
  Speaker 4: So nineteen okay, yeh, nineteen sixty six appears to be
• 59:24
  Speaker 4: the original Ultraman.
• 59:28
  Speaker 3: Thirty nine fucking episodes in that series.
• 59:29
  Speaker 4: All right, Core, I have to dive into that.
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: So what I will say though, is Netflix did or
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: maybe not Netflix, But there is a newer Ultraman movie
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: that just came out called Shin ultraman Ooka, which was
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: made by Shinzi Higuchi, who did Camera Guardian of the
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: Universe in nineteen ninety five, and that is a really
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: beloved new film that just came out. I've not had
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: a chance to see it yet, but that it was
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: written by Hidaki Anno, who fans of Neon Genesis Evangelian
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: Fake Well, I will recognize that name because he did
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: that and he also did Shin Godzilla, so it's.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 4: A oh got it? Okay, Yeah, I.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 3: Just kind of went off on a little tangent there
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 3: for a second.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 4: Fine, we're talking about something that's just a little bit
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 4: better than this. It's it's fine. Not everything's gonna be
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 4: a winner. And you know what, this month completely devolved
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 4: into chaos because we started with Godzilla and now we
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 4: end up here and I was this was my I
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 4: was excited.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 3: You started off, you start off really high.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and then we just progressively have gotten worse and
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 4: worse and worse. It's it is what it is, you know.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 4: And that's what happens when I'm a person not well
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 4: well versed and kied you. I just picked movies that
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 4: sounded you know.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 3: And here's the thing. They're not all winners.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 4: They're not all winners. Yeah, that's what you have to know.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: It's same thing like I was a big fan of
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: Kung Fu movies as a kid, and there's really fucking
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: amazing Kung Fu movies and then there's really fucking.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 3: Bad Kung Foo movies. Same way of horror. Any genre,
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 3: any genre is gonna have some bullshit.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so this month definitely went off the rails. Next month, though,
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 4: I feel, is gonna be very strong. We'll talk about
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 4: that here. In a second. But any closing comments concerns,
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 4: I mean, I have too many questions that are never
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 4: gonna get answered on our movie at hand.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 3: Here.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: So, Austin, you've known me for quite a few years
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 2: now at this point, you know that I'm a pretty
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: I'm a pretty liberal critic. I'm a pretty open person.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: I'm an open face sandwich, and like it's that's that's
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: just how I live my life.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 3: This movie is bad.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: I struggled to even find some because, like, I've never
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: been one of those so bad it's good people like, oh,
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 2: this movie is so bad.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 3: I love watching movies that are so bad. No, they're
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 3: fucking painful to watch.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: I've never could understand those people who just exclusively watch
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: bad movies. I don't get enjoyment out of them. I
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: don't find them fun sometimes sure, but a lot of
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: times the bad movies that I get enjoyment out of
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: are actually have some redeeming qualities. And this was just
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: a poorly made movie and I got no enjoyment out
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: of it.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 4: See, And there are movies that I would consider bad
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 4: by traditional standards, but are so committed to their bit
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 4: and their routine, and there's a lot of heart and
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 4: soul in it that I enjoy like I do, like yeah,
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 4: like like you know, there are some B movies that
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 4: would be considered bad, but I'm.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 3: Like, yeah, nay, I enjoy that.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: I enjoy the films of ed Wood because he was
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: he was very earnest in his filmmaking. But yeah, for
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: the most part, I don't get enjoyment out of watching
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: bad films.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 4: Bad films that are bad, and this is yeah, is
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 4: just one of those. Yeah, I have to agree. Unfortunately,
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 4: this is just a bad movie. It doesn't really check
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 4: any boxes for me in like my Kaiju, like want
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 4: what I want from a Kaiju film? Primarily focused on kids,
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 4: all miniatures, no really no suitmation outside of the stock footage,
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 4: and just a poorly written plot about a monster who
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 4: doesn't really show up until the last ten minutes. If
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 4: it's a versus movie, that needs to be the focal
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 4: point of the movie, like the climax of the movie.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 4: And by climax, I don't mean last ten minutes. You know,
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 4: climax usually happens and then they start fighting for a
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 4: good amount of time. When you say this person versus
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 4: this person, I mean that should start happening at least
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 4: at the halfway mark, at least, especially when the original
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 4: you know, like what the version I watch is eighty
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 4: one minutes forty five minutes in. They should be fighting,
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 4: not at an hour and ten minutes. So with all
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 4: of that, Shenanigan's being said, let's move on to the
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 4: final cut here, all right, So there were no taglines trivia.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 4: This was the first film in the series to use
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 4: flashbacks from previous Kamara films as a way of saving
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 4: money on production. In this film, the flashback sequences last
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 4: approximately fifteen minutes. That's probably for your version. American international
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 4: title is Destroy All Planets, after the success it had
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 4: with the release of Ishuiro Honda's Destroy All Monsters under
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 4: the title Destroy All Monsters. What that's not right? What
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 4: was Destroy All Monsters? That was like Gamera versus Yeah, okay, anyways,
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 4: which is funny because I think I know why they
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 4: added all of that stock footage to the American version,
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 4: Probably because not every single Gamera movie got released in America,
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 4: so they wanted to get so I'm assuming that's kind
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 4: of why they had all of that so people can
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 4: be like, oh, okay, so these must be films I haven't.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 4: But for us, it's like, we don't need to see that.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 4: And then, yeah, here's the thing I mentioned earlier. Series
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 4: director Noriaki Yuasa named this as his personal favorite of
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 4: the films, describing it as purely a children's movie. One
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 4: hundred percent agree with that.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 4: There were no goofs at all listed on IMDb, which
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 4: is kind of a shock. This is this is where
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 4: it gits really bad. Rated four point six out of
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 4: ten on IMDb, which equivalates to a two point three
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 4: out of five on our scale for the nightmare Index,
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 4: two point six out of five on Letterbox. It has
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 4: a nil rating on the Tomato Meter because not enough
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 4: critics have reviewed it, and a twenty six percent audience score.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 4: What did you give this, Michael?
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: I gave this movie a easily one point five, and
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: that I feel like that's even me being generous, and.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 4: I gave it a too, which I also feel like
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 4: is me being interests. I hope this does not go
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 4: lower than just then Monster. Thank god, Oh thank god
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 4: it didn't. Okay, good, So that gives us a nightmare
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 4: index of a two point one out of five, which
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 4: sits just above Monster Seafood Wars at a one point
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 4: nine to zero.
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 3: Wars I forgot about this.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 4: It's so bad and sitting under contamination at a two
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 4: point four to four out of five. Just to put
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 4: this in perspective for you, the bottom four films, three
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 4: out of four Kai Tu films. And that's my fault,
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 4: and I'm sorry I have failed everyone. Similar movies according
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 4: to IMDb, literally Gamara Versus Gaios, Jiger Guy ran zygra
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 4: and the and Gamera The Brave, and then similar movies
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 4: according to the letterbox, we have destroy our monsters, Godzilla
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 4: Final Wars, Godzilla two thousand, Invasion of the Astro Monster,
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 4: and the Mysterians, which, by the way, I found a
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 4: physical copy Invasion of the Astro Monster. Nice.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 3: I love Invasion of the Astra Monster.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 4: Actually it's a Criterion DVD collection. It's like number thirty
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 4: seven of this collection that they do, and it has
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 4: Invasion of the Oh no, no, no, that's that's the
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 4: Monster from the X Monster from outer Space never mind,
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 4: never mind or whatever that one is. But yeah, it's
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 4: got like three random movies on it and they all
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 4: are wildly different in tone. Funny reviews if you've got any,
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 4: and then we'll get the hell out of here.
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I do, I do, I do? You can start?
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 3: I got up.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I went for the low hanging fruit with the
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 4: first one. Send them avoid who's been featured on this
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 4: podcast many a time. Two stars, A psychic squid, alien threatens,
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 4: threatens the earth, and our only hope is stock footage
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 4: of a giant spinning turtle. Maybe we deserve to die.
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 2: I saw that, all right. So this one is too
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 2: long of a review. I'm just gonna read the opening sentence.
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 2: Love that, much like the Wu Tang Clan Gamera is
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 2: for the children.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 4: Three stars from Jack the film poster belongs in a museum,
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 4: and I agree with that because this is the film
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 4: poster right here. You can kind of see it. Yeah,
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 4: it's a great film poster. It's a great film poster,
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 4: but not for a great movie.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 2: So then my next one is, oh, I should, by
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: the way, give credit. My last one was by Joe Randazzo.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: He gave the film four stars. Joe's been been on
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 2: my podcast before. This next one is from a person
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 2: named Kraut Salat Krout Salot. They gave it four stars.
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 2: They said, Oh, a shifty eyed space octopus wants to
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 2: take over our planet.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 3: That's only fair.
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 4: Uh, let's see, I got one more because there was
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 4: not a lot of short reviews. Half a star from
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 4: Chad Shark. You know your movie sucks when the stock
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 4: footage is the most entertaining aspect of it.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 3: And funny enough, that was That was one of my outliers.
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 3: I just I've got one more though perfect.
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 2: I got two and a half from anonymous Andy Combined
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 2: is the crushing disappointment of learning at the latest episode
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 2: of your favorite TV series is a clip show with
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: the joy with the joy of finding sandwiches in the wall.
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 4: Oh good lord, all right, Michael, where can everybody hear
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 4: the sultry sound of your voice on your podcast? All right?
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 3: You can everyone who wants to listen to me, which
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 3: you know, that's your choice.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: Being really heard of by myself today, you can listen
• 1:09:41
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• 1:09:44
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• 1:09:48
  Speaker 2: do a lot of fun episodes. Let's see, I'm trying
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 2: to remember what we've released recently.
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 3: Let's take a look. Let's go to Spreaker and take
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 3: a look at So we just.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: Had an episode on the film on sharem mocrey's film
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 2: Careless Crime with the Deff Crocodile guys, and that was
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 2: a fantastic conversation that I was really proud of. We
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 2: also talked quite a bit about our love for Ryan
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 2: Gosling on that episode, which is really funny. I also
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 2: recently did Sorcerer with doctor Susan Kerns, did a catch
• 1:10:24
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• 1:10:30
  Speaker 2: We've recently done Godfather to Harold and Maud. There's a
• 1:10:33
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