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- 0:02Speaker 1: Welcome to Huddle Up, brought to you by the Field
- 0:05Speaker 1: Total Group, Jaguars Senior writer John Osher, NFL network analyst
- 0:10Speaker 1: and former Jaguar Bucky Brooks, and senior reporter J. P.
- 0:14Speaker 1: Shadrick bringing you the latest on your Jacksonville Jaguars.
- 0:19Speaker 2: Huddle Up starts right now and welcome in a Tuddle
- 0:23Speaker 2: Up with Bucky Brooks on this Wednesday, as we head
- 0:27Speaker 2: into week number seven in the National Football League.
- 0:30Speaker 3: J P.
- 0:31Speaker 4: Shadick with John Oser.
- 0:32Speaker 5: From the grove just outside of Watford, northwest of London.
- 0:36Speaker 5: It's the team headquarters for this week ahead of the
- 0:39Speaker 5: Patriots Jaguars matchup at Wembley. Bucky Brooks winning US shortly
- 0:43Speaker 5: from Los Angeles, and here's what's coming up. The stadium
- 0:47Speaker 5: approved by NFL owners yesterday in Atlanta. We'll have our
- 0:51Speaker 5: last look at the Jaguars Bears game. Thank goodness, get
- 0:54Speaker 5: that thing out of here. The Patriots and the Jaguars
- 0:57Speaker 5: coming up this week under the arch at Wembley, the
- 0:59Speaker 5: Jaguars make trade. Roy Robertson Harris is gone and London
- 1:03Speaker 5: events this week continue as always. Huddle Up with Bucky
- 1:06Speaker 5: Brooks brought to you by Field's Auto group Jacksonville. See
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- 1:15Speaker 5: dot com. All right, so, the biggest story of this
- 1:19Speaker 5: week outside of football certainly the NFL ownership officially voting
- 1:24Speaker 5: in favor of the Jaguars stadium agreement thirty two to
- 1:27Speaker 5: nothing the final tally, and Roger Goodell told us pregame
- 1:31Speaker 5: about his confidence in that process after the committee's approved it.
- 1:34Speaker 5: It certainly came through, John with flying kellers. When we
- 1:38Speaker 5: heard from Shad Khan and Mayor Donna Deagan and President
- 1:41Speaker 5: Mark Lamping of the Jaguars yesterday after that vote came through,
- 1:45Speaker 5: you were there at the Dorchester and it seemed like
- 1:48Speaker 5: almost almost getting us from all three and rightly so.
- 1:52Speaker 3: Yeah, and they knew that there was a good chance that,
- 1:55Speaker 3: I mean, everybody thought it was gonna be favorable. This
- 1:58Speaker 3: is one of those things that they go through enough committees,
- 2:01Speaker 3: they go through enough work where they had an idea
- 2:06Speaker 3: that it was going to pass. Awful lot of confidence there.
- 2:10Speaker 3: There was a lot of joy and satisfaction that it
- 2:14Speaker 3: got passed unanimously. It's a credit to the people who
- 2:20Speaker 3: did the work, to the people who put the plan together.
- 2:23Speaker 3: To the way that they structured this thing to be
- 2:26Speaker 3: able to finance a project of this size in a
- 2:31Speaker 3: small market. I think you're going to see in the
- 2:33Speaker 3: next few years this become a model and going to
- 2:38Speaker 3: help the league and other teams who need to get
- 2:41Speaker 3: things financed. They're already getting calls along those lines. So
- 2:45Speaker 3: a credit to Shad Cohn, credit to Mark Lamping, credit
- 2:48Speaker 3: to Donna Degan. I think the big thing JP is
- 2:53Speaker 3: how easy this seemed from the outside. There was very
- 2:58Speaker 3: little drama, very little worry over it. It didn't have
- 3:03Speaker 3: to be that way. It could have been a very
- 3:05Speaker 3: difficult process. It could have been very dramatic process. It
- 3:08Speaker 3: didn't have to get done. This was not a given,
- 3:10Speaker 3: and they got it done in such a way that
- 3:12Speaker 3: I think fans and observers have kind of this kind
- 3:16Speaker 3: of seems like an afterthought, and it's kind of seemed
- 3:18Speaker 3: like an afterthought all off season. That's credit to the
- 3:21Speaker 3: people we got it involved, because this was not an afterthought.
- 3:24Speaker 3: I was here in twenty eleven, twenty twelve when you
- 3:26Speaker 3: had no idea about the future of this franchise. To
- 3:29Speaker 3: get this done and solidify the future of the franchise,
- 3:32Speaker 3: I get that the team's not playing well, but this
- 3:34Speaker 3: is the biggest story of the season, the fact that
- 3:36Speaker 3: this franchise is here for the long term. It will
- 3:38Speaker 3: be here long after I'm gone, which at this rate
- 3:41Speaker 3: didn't feel like very far JP.
- 3:44Speaker 5: You said it, not me, Bucky Brooks with us now
- 3:47Speaker 5: from Los Angeles, and from your perspective, from a football perspective,
- 3:51Speaker 5: having this done and the future secured for the long
- 3:55Speaker 5: term in Jacksonville and what will be an iconic stadium
- 3:59Speaker 5: is it's just a relief, really, I think for everybody
- 4:02Speaker 5: in charge it has to be.
- 4:04Speaker 6: Yeah, more than the relief, it's a selling point. It's
- 4:06Speaker 6: a selling point in terms of the stability for the franchise.
- 4:08Speaker 6: There's a lot of conversation about this team maybe moving
- 4:11Speaker 6: to London and all this other stuff. Well, now you
- 4:13Speaker 6: have something in place that allows you to present to
- 4:17Speaker 6: not only free agents but the draft ese, hey, this
- 4:19Speaker 6: is going to be your home for the next whatever
- 4:23Speaker 6: ever long that they continue to play football.
- 4:25Speaker 7: And so that makes it very very easy.
- 4:27Speaker 6: It also makes it easy to sell the overall package, right,
- 4:30Speaker 6: So the overall package of Jacksonville is you come to
- 4:33Speaker 6: North Florida, You're playing in a nice environment, a nice city,
- 4:36Speaker 6: affordability when it comes to the home and the housing market.
- 4:39Speaker 6: You have updated facilities for the practice facility, You're going
- 4:43Speaker 6: to have a brand new stadium. There are a lot
- 4:45Speaker 6: of things to offer, and we haven't got to this point,
- 4:49Speaker 6: but we'll eventually get to this point. The good teams
- 4:51Speaker 6: are able to keep their guys in city year round.
- 4:54Speaker 6: Now you have everything to offer perspective free agents that
- 4:58Speaker 6: will entice them to stay around twelve months out the year.
- 5:02Speaker 6: That's better for your team chemistry and cohesion. So it's
- 5:05Speaker 6: really a good thing for Jacksonville as you think about
- 5:07Speaker 6: building the team going forward.
- 5:10Speaker 3: Yeah, I think strangely enough, JP it in this day
- 5:14Speaker 3: and age. It allows you to keep players and coaches
- 5:19Speaker 3: and you know, infrastructure in place. I don't know that
- 5:23Speaker 3: it draws that many because free agency is so weird
- 5:26Speaker 3: now in the sense you don't really talk to players.
- 5:29Speaker 3: If you're trying to sign a free agent. There's no
- 5:31Speaker 3: more tours. They're not coming in. Maybe they've played there
- 5:35Speaker 3: once and get an idea. But it certainly allows you
- 5:38Speaker 3: to keep guys. You bring in a draft pick and
- 5:40Speaker 3: the facilities are first rate, there's no reason for them
- 5:43Speaker 3: to go anywhere else. So yeahp is one more thing
- 5:48Speaker 3: as somebody who covered the franchise in ninety five. Everybody
- 5:51Speaker 3: knows that I've lived here in Jacksonville since seventy three,
- 5:56Speaker 3: went through all this stuff with them not being able
- 5:59Speaker 3: to get a team, and then sort of relived it
- 6:00Speaker 3: again when I came back to Jacksonville on eleven. Oh,
- 6:03Speaker 3: they're gonna move somewhere. I can't have any media people
- 6:06Speaker 3: who have argued with me over the years and saying no,
- 6:09Speaker 3: there's no way they'll keep that franchise.
- 6:11Speaker 4: Uh.
- 6:12Speaker 3: To have this get done and do not have to
- 6:14Speaker 3: hear that anymore. Uh, I think I speak for a
- 6:17Speaker 3: lot of fans who are watching it, who've been on
- 6:20Speaker 3: the Twitter wars and talked about the franchise and being
- 6:23Speaker 3: an NFL city. Uh, to be able to put that
- 6:26Speaker 3: to bed even though you're one and five. I think
- 6:28Speaker 3: it's a lot of people watching this who are relieved, ecstatic, proud,
- 6:33Speaker 3: and they should be the people who fought the lock
- 6:37Speaker 3: and four. Phe hit me up in twenty twenty one,
- 6:41Speaker 3: Well you know we're hitting you up.
- 6:43Speaker 4: How it's.
- 6:45Speaker 6: Oh absolutely whoa, Oh we got fired up jay O today?
- 6:50Speaker 7: You fired up?
- 6:51Speaker 3: Taking shit go, Bucky, you with your little shit.
- 6:55Speaker 7: Receipts, keep it receipts.
- 6:57Speaker 4: Wow, there's anybody that keeps seats? It's John Oser. Okay,
- 7:01Speaker 4: he doesn't.
- 7:02Speaker 3: They got to turn him in for expenses.
- 7:04Speaker 4: That's exactly what it is. Let's take a time out.
- 7:07Speaker 5: We'll come back and we'll rehash for the final time
- 7:10Speaker 5: the Jaguars Bears matchup last week. A little later, of course,
- 7:14Speaker 5: we'll look ahead to the game under the Arch at
- 7:16Speaker 5: Wimbley this week, the Jaguars and the Patriots. Are you
- 7:19Speaker 5: too ball enough to become the Jaguars twenty twenty four
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- 7:27Speaker 5: Year and nominate someone Today we are off and running
- 7:32Speaker 5: an underway. It's huddle up with Bucky Brooks.
- 7:44Speaker 8: I think that's really one of the key purposes of
- 7:46Speaker 8: the stadium, that how the venue is designed. I think
- 7:51Speaker 8: it's gonna be among the finest in the world. And
- 7:56Speaker 8: you know, and that's what we expect from him to
- 7:59Speaker 8: be able to old world class events, contribute to the city,
- 8:04Speaker 8: you know, from prestige, but more importantly from revenue, and
- 8:08Speaker 8: really helped the community grow. So this is you know,
- 8:12Speaker 8: it's a public venue and the key purpose is to
- 8:16Speaker 8: serve the community. So I mean we have high expectations
- 8:20Speaker 8: the design, the function, all of that is to make
- 8:24Speaker 8: it among the best in the world.
- 8:27Speaker 5: That's Jaguars owners Shot Cohn along with the Mark Lampingg
- 8:30Speaker 5: and Mayor donnad Digan of Jacksonville last night in a
- 8:34Speaker 5: zoom call with the media. It's available at Jaguars dot
- 8:36Speaker 5: com and Jaguars YouTube.
- 8:38Speaker 4: Welcome back.
- 8:38Speaker 5: It's Huddle Up with Bucky Brooks, JP Shatterck with John Ozer.
- 8:41Speaker 5: We're outside London at the Grove Resort. We're in the
- 8:44Speaker 5: library room where they have very many leatherbound books behind us,
- 8:49Speaker 5: many from the early eighteen hundreds, even some of these
- 8:51Speaker 5: books in here. The Jaguars, of course, this week play
- 8:55Speaker 5: at Wimbley against the New England Patriots. But Bucky Brooks
- 8:59Speaker 5: with the in LA We've got to go back, Bucky
- 9:02Speaker 5: and review last week's game against the Bears up at
- 9:06Speaker 5: tottenhamont Spur Stadium. And there are some obviously issues coming
- 9:12Speaker 5: out of that game, to say the least, Bucky, and
- 9:14Speaker 5: a lot of it came from the comments postgame from
- 9:17Speaker 5: the head coach and Andre Cisco most notably, who said
- 9:20Speaker 5: that he saw a lot of quid out there on defense.
- 9:23Speaker 5: The head coach with you on postgame radio was talking
- 9:26Speaker 5: about culture issues. It's week six, Bucky, and they're talking
- 9:31Speaker 5: about these things. That's never a good sign, is it.
- 9:35Speaker 7: It's not a good sign.
- 9:37Speaker 6: And I would say it's a deeper issue, and it's
- 9:38Speaker 6: an issue that existed for a while. If you go
- 9:41Speaker 6: back to last year some of the comments that players
- 9:44Speaker 6: would share with me postgame on interviews.
- 9:47Speaker 7: About the culture and the environment and those things. Here's
- 9:50Speaker 7: what I'll say.
- 9:51Speaker 6: Overall, what you permit, you promote, and so if you
- 9:56Speaker 6: allow things to happen, that's on you as the leader
- 10:00Speaker 6: of the team, as the leader of the franchise, and
- 10:02Speaker 6: it extends beyond the head coach. It goes all the
- 10:05Speaker 6: way up the food chain. And if you want to
- 10:08Speaker 6: change it, you can't allow it. And you can't try
- 10:11Speaker 6: and change it midstream. You can't say, oh, all of
- 10:13Speaker 6: a sudden, now I'm going to tighten it up and
- 10:15Speaker 6: I'm gonna be a hard nose coaching those things.
- 10:18Speaker 7: You have to head it off. You have to say
- 10:20Speaker 7: it hard.
- 10:21Speaker 6: And fast, rules, you have to set lines and standards
- 10:25Speaker 6: and expectations, and when players or people coaches, anybody in
- 10:29Speaker 6: the organization, when they don't meet those standards, you have
- 10:33Speaker 6: to give them consequences.
- 10:35Speaker 7: And the issue that.
- 10:36Speaker 6: You have when you talk about the culture is Coach
- 10:40Speaker 6: Peterson can say that in a postgame interview and simultaneously
- 10:44Speaker 6: Andre Cisco is talking about there was a whole lot
- 10:47Speaker 6: of quit. So obviously coach Peterson knows that something is
- 10:52Speaker 6: going on, and the players are telling you that something
- 10:54Speaker 6: is going on. How you handle it this week determines
- 10:58Speaker 6: how this team goes forward. But I don't know, it's
- 11:02Speaker 6: a huge issue. And yeah, like players can get discouraged
- 11:05Speaker 6: and not give the same effort or whatever. But when
- 11:07Speaker 6: you talk about quitting and culture and those things are
- 11:11Speaker 6: prominent in postgame commentary, it's a bigger issue than the
- 11:14Speaker 6: ex'es and o's.
- 11:17Speaker 3: Yeah, I think a lot of times when you're talking
- 11:19Speaker 3: about quitting, I think Bucky and I have talked about it.
- 11:22Speaker 3: It's I don't know that it's necessarily guys just not trying.
- 11:27Speaker 3: And what I saw the other day, you know, guys
- 11:31Speaker 3: playing for themselves a little bit. And when I've talked
- 11:34Speaker 3: to players in the past about quitting. That's usually what
- 11:38Speaker 3: they emphasize is you know, they're still out there playing
- 11:43Speaker 3: hard and trying to make plays, but they're not within
- 11:46Speaker 3: the scheme of what's going on, and that's quitting just
- 11:50Speaker 3: as much of a as lack of ever, because if
- 11:52Speaker 3: you're on the same page in football, you can't play.
- 11:55Speaker 3: So some of Andre's comments sort of veered that direction.
- 12:00Speaker 3: Not playing as one was what he talked about after
- 12:02Speaker 3: he said quit. There was a paragraph in the story
- 12:05Speaker 3: I read I wasn't there they talked about not playing
- 12:10Speaker 3: as one. Same thing. To me, it's when they're just
- 12:13Speaker 3: not believing or not playing to the direction of everybody,
- 12:18Speaker 3: and that to me is as big of an issue,
- 12:22Speaker 3: it's as worrisome an issue. I don't know how you
- 12:24Speaker 3: get it back. That will be the storyline of me
- 12:28Speaker 3: this week. Can they get it back? Are they all listening?
- 12:34Speaker 3: Are they all pulling in the same direction. If you
- 12:36Speaker 3: listen during the week, it's one thing, But when you're
- 12:38Speaker 3: out there when it's really going on, or you playing
- 12:41Speaker 3: that way, haven't done it for a while, Bucky, I
- 12:44Speaker 3: don't know how you get that back once it's lost.
- 12:46Speaker 3: But that's the task this week.
- 12:48Speaker 7: That is a task. But here's the thing.
- 12:50Speaker 6: I think Cisco's comments and Doug Peterson's comments postgame are
- 12:55Speaker 6: very telling, and let's go beyond the culture.
- 12:58Speaker 7: Issue and the quitting issue.
- 13:01Speaker 6: Both guys said things that were very revealing, and talking
- 13:04Speaker 6: to Doug, Doug talked about, look, man, the practices are good.
- 13:07Speaker 6: The guys come to work every day, they work or
- 13:09Speaker 6: they do exactly what his asked, but something is missing.
- 13:11Speaker 7: On game day.
- 13:12Speaker 6: If you dig a little deeper and you listen fully
- 13:14Speaker 6: to Andre Cisco's interview, he said that, hey, it's not
- 13:18Speaker 6: about practice, it's not about the schedule. We work, or
- 13:21Speaker 6: we do all those things, but on game day there's
- 13:24Speaker 6: something missing. So both people are saying there is something
- 13:28Speaker 6: that's not translating to Sundays. I don't know how you
- 13:32Speaker 6: fixed that as a coach, because as a coach, you
- 13:35Speaker 6: set up the practice schedule, you do all the routine
- 13:37Speaker 6: or whatever.
- 13:38Speaker 7: But Sundays are for the players. The players are supposed
- 13:41Speaker 7: to bring.
- 13:41Speaker 6: That on game day. You now have a player who's saying, hey,
- 13:46Speaker 6: we aren't bringing it on game day. That's something amongst
- 13:50Speaker 6: the players. So Doug can kicking, scream and hollering all that,
- 13:54Speaker 6: but at some point and he said.
- 13:56Speaker 7: This it's a player's game. The players have to bring it.
- 14:00Speaker 6: So to me, Andre Cisco has revealed what is really
- 14:03Speaker 6: important about fixing it.
- 14:05Speaker 7: You got to fix the thing on game day.
- 14:08Speaker 6: I don't know how you do it as a coach,
- 14:10Speaker 6: but on game they're not performing like they're practicing, and
- 14:14Speaker 6: that is a huge.
- 14:14Speaker 3: Issue and it's kind of systemic.
- 14:17Speaker 4: JP.
- 14:17Speaker 3: It's been you know, as Bucky said, it feels like
- 14:20Speaker 3: it started at the end of last season. Josh Allen said,
- 14:25Speaker 3: Josh Heinzellen, he was Josh Allen at the time late
- 14:29Speaker 3: last season talked about, you know, waiting for somebody to
- 14:34Speaker 3: make a play, and you know that's not as when
- 14:37Speaker 3: players talk about this kind of thing, they're trying to
- 14:39Speaker 3: get to a point and can't quite get there because
- 14:40Speaker 3: they're trying to explain it and everybody's in that same
- 14:43Speaker 3: vein of trying to figure it out. Right, I kind
- 14:47Speaker 3: of go back. I think this team's got a lot
- 14:49Speaker 3: of good players. I don't know that it has a
- 14:52Speaker 3: lot of great players who take over games, and I
- 14:54Speaker 3: think that's all sort of part of it. Bucky, of
- 14:58Speaker 3: waiting for somebody to take over a game, do they
- 15:00Speaker 3: have enough guys who are I hate the word alpha,
- 15:05Speaker 3: but that's what you're getting at. Do they have enough
- 15:08Speaker 3: guys who say, Donald, we got to do it now
- 15:10Speaker 3: and take it over. I don't know if it's an unwillingness.
- 15:16Speaker 3: Can they do it, Bucky, I don't know if those
- 15:19Speaker 3: guys are here because they haven't shown us there here
- 15:21Speaker 3: for the last twelve games.
- 15:23Speaker 7: Now.
- 15:23Speaker 6: At the risk of being fully transparent on the podcast,
- 15:27Speaker 6: I feel like we have to go there, and it's
- 15:28Speaker 6: not being disrespectful to the organization when we make these comments.
- 15:32Speaker 6: But I'm gonna say this, one of the things that
- 15:33Speaker 6: you're trying to balance when you're resigning guys and building
- 15:37Speaker 6: your team and you're saying, Okay, look we want because
- 15:40Speaker 6: I've heard this directly from the owner.
- 15:42Speaker 7: You talked about a want good guys.
- 15:44Speaker 6: Who are good players, great character in those things, and
- 15:47Speaker 6: you do want that. However, you must have guys you
- 15:50Speaker 6: talked about alpha's. We'll say dogs, right, because that is
- 15:54Speaker 6: the word that they use in sports. Competitive tenacious. They
- 15:59Speaker 6: have a level of toughness. They are really invested in
- 16:03Speaker 6: the outcome of games, and they love it because they
- 16:07Speaker 6: live it. And what we are seeing is man, we
- 16:11Speaker 6: got a bunch of great people, and I love the
- 16:13Speaker 6: composition of the team in terms of the guys and
- 16:15Speaker 6: how you interact and what they do and how they
- 16:17Speaker 6: take care of things on and off the field. However,
- 16:20Speaker 6: in a competitive sport where the results are determined between
- 16:24Speaker 6: the lines, you have to have some dogs. You have
- 16:27Speaker 6: to have some guys that they don't need the coach
- 16:30Speaker 6: to get them going that when it's Sunday and it's
- 16:32Speaker 6: game day, they wake up ready to go, and they
- 16:36Speaker 6: love it. They are intensely competitive, they want to win,
- 16:40Speaker 6: and there's a bit of this.
- 16:44Speaker 7: I'm gonna do it.
- 16:45Speaker 6: This is not gonna happen over my dead body. We're
- 16:47Speaker 6: gonna make sure that this is done. And I don't
- 16:50Speaker 6: know if we have enough guys who have that I'm
- 16:54Speaker 6: gonna take over the game and a very competitive nature.
- 16:58Speaker 6: I'm going to figure out how to do it with
- 16:59Speaker 6: that in the confines of the team.
- 17:03Speaker 3: If they do have a JP, they got to show it.
- 17:05Speaker 4: They better show it.
- 17:06Speaker 5: Starting this week under the Arch at Wembley, we'll come
- 17:09Speaker 5: back and look ahead to this matchup against the New
- 17:12Speaker 5: England Patriots in London. After a Jaguar's loss, of course,
- 17:15Speaker 5: to the Bears thirty five sixteen. Caleb Williams threw four
- 17:19Speaker 5: touchdowns against the worst ranked pass defense in the NFL
- 17:23Speaker 5: for the Jaguars and it's a pre snap penalties. A
- 17:25Speaker 5: lot of things went wrong on offense for this team
- 17:27Speaker 5: as well. They'll try to get things right this week
- 17:30Speaker 5: across town at Wembley. We're back with more in a moment.
- 17:33Speaker 5: This is Huddle Up with Bucky Brooks.
- 17:42Speaker 7: Welcome back.
- 17:43Speaker 5: It's Huddle Up with Bucky Brooks, presented by the Fields
- 17:45Speaker 5: Auto Group JP Shadwick with John Osier. We're at the
- 17:48Speaker 5: Grove a Sword just outside of London, near the town
- 17:51Speaker 5: of Watford. That's headquarters for the Jaguars since Friday when
- 17:56Speaker 5: the team arrived. Before Week six and the loss to
- 17:59Speaker 5: the Bear at Tottenham Hotspur last week and now practice
- 18:03Speaker 5: starting today Wednesday earlier on the practice grounds here and
- 18:07Speaker 5: throughout the rest.
- 18:07Speaker 4: Of the week.
- 18:08Speaker 5: The Jaguars will play at Wembley this Sunday against the
- 18:11Speaker 5: New England Patriots, a battle of one in five teams
- 18:16Speaker 5: and we'll see if the Jaguars can get back on
- 18:18Speaker 5: track this week. Bucky Brooks joining us from Los Angeles
- 18:22Speaker 5: as always, and you know it's a Jaguars team that's
- 18:26Speaker 5: struggling to find their way. New England won their first
- 18:29Speaker 5: game of the season. They've dropped five in a row,
- 18:32Speaker 5: and now they've switched quarterbacks. Drake May, your guy, your
- 18:35Speaker 5: North Carolina guy, is out there making the start again
- 18:38Speaker 5: this week, his second week is the starter for the
- 18:40Speaker 5: Patriots and asking Doug Peterson about him earlier today out here,
- 18:44Speaker 5: he had high praise and said he's going to continue
- 18:48Speaker 5: to grow and has the big arm and everything goes
- 18:50Speaker 5: with that. So give us a little scouting report on
- 18:53Speaker 5: Drake May and what he might have to offer for
- 18:55Speaker 5: New England.
- 18:57Speaker 6: This is personal for me because Drake May's dad was
- 18:59Speaker 6: at North Carolina right as I got there. His dad
- 19:02Speaker 6: was an all star athlete in North Carolina, and so
- 19:06Speaker 6: the fruit doesn't fall too far from the tree. This
- 19:08Speaker 6: is a very talented young quarterback who has a lot
- 19:11Speaker 6: of skills. He is someone who's not quite Josh Allen like,
- 19:17Speaker 6: but he patterns his game after Josh Allen from the
- 19:20Speaker 6: Buffalo Bills in terms of how he wants to be
- 19:22Speaker 6: as a pro tremendous arm, talent, great athleticism. That athleticism
- 19:27Speaker 6: is part of a family trade where his brothers played
- 19:31Speaker 6: college basketball once playing pro one played college baseball down
- 19:34Speaker 6: at University of Florida, so he has that and even
- 19:37Speaker 6: though he only entered the league with twenty six collegiate starts,
- 19:40Speaker 6: this is someone where his talent can make up for
- 19:44Speaker 6: his inexperience.
- 19:46Speaker 7: The Jaguars have.
- 19:46Speaker 6: To be ready to deal with someone who can challenge
- 19:49Speaker 6: them not only as a thrower but as a runner,
- 19:52Speaker 6: and then try and find a way to make a
- 19:54Speaker 6: game where he's a He has to hesitate and think
- 19:58Speaker 6: due to the changing coverage as opposed to being able
- 20:01Speaker 6: to kind of wing it on his natural athleticism and ability.
- 20:06Speaker 3: Yeah, he had some success late last week. Look the
- 20:10Speaker 3: way the league usually works is you've now got some
- 20:14Speaker 3: film on him, you would think you see some tendencies
- 20:17Speaker 3: if you're the Jaguars, and you can usually make young
- 20:22Speaker 3: rookie quarterbacks pay in their second, third, fourth start until
- 20:26Speaker 3: they start figuring stuff out. The question I have is
- 20:32Speaker 3: can the Jaguars defense do that. The way it's playing,
- 20:35Speaker 3: it should be able to. I think it can. They're
- 20:37Speaker 3: getting Tyson Campbell back. I think if they get pressure
- 20:41Speaker 3: from Trayvon Walker and Josh Eines, Allen which has been happening.
- 20:45Speaker 3: But frankly, you wonder if they can get the interior
- 20:48Speaker 3: pressure and if the secondary can hold up because it
- 20:50Speaker 3: hasn't held up Bucky.
- 20:53Speaker 7: Yeah.
- 20:53Speaker 6: No. Like, So here's the thing, And I think this
- 20:56Speaker 6: is one when we talk about the defense and all
- 20:59Speaker 6: that other stuff, because I think the defense isn't nearly
- 21:02Speaker 6: as bad as it's been portrayed. I think some of
- 21:04Speaker 6: that is by design in terms of the yards allowed.
- 21:07Speaker 6: I think some of it is also a byproduct of
- 21:09Speaker 6: playing a bunch of young players and backup players in
- 21:12Speaker 6: those things.
- 21:13Speaker 7: I think the emphasis for the defense this week.
- 21:15Speaker 6: Against a young quarterback has to be less about preparing
- 21:18Speaker 6: for the Patriots and more about getting back to the
- 21:20Speaker 6: brand that the Jaguars want to put out there. When
- 21:23Speaker 6: it comes to the defense right now, it's about doing
- 21:26Speaker 6: simple things to allow your guys to be successful. And
- 21:29Speaker 6: when the Jaguars have been at there, I would say,
- 21:32Speaker 6: at their best early in the season, simple on it,
- 21:35Speaker 6: playing hard effort, toughness to tackling was there. You got
- 21:39Speaker 6: to get back to that, and so that might mean
- 21:41Speaker 6: reducing some of the things that you normally would put
- 21:43Speaker 6: in the plan to allow your guys just to concentrate
- 21:46Speaker 6: on playing. Let's line up, let's play hard every snap.
- 21:50Speaker 6: Let's make sure bring the effort to energy, to hustle,
- 21:52Speaker 6: and more importantly, the physicality to the game.
- 21:56Speaker 7: And whatever it looks like after that.
- 21:58Speaker 6: Cool, But let's just make sure that when we turn
- 22:00Speaker 6: them to tape everyone is running to the ball, that
- 22:03Speaker 6: physicality is there, and let's build upon that, because no
- 22:06Speaker 6: matter what everyone on the outside says at one in five,
- 22:09Speaker 6: the season is not old. It's a seventy game season.
- 22:13Speaker 6: You're gonna have to play all of it. And as
- 22:15Speaker 6: Andre Cisco talked about, the league is built for everyone
- 22:18Speaker 6: to be eight, nine, nine and eight.
- 22:20Speaker 7: So the season will come back.
- 22:22Speaker 6: But as a coach and staff and as players, you
- 22:25Speaker 6: gotta focus on one game at a time. Let's get
- 22:27Speaker 6: back to playing the style that we want to play
- 22:30Speaker 6: and see if we can start a stacking wins by
- 22:31Speaker 6: playing the right way.
- 22:35Speaker 5: To your point, Johnny moment Ago, this new England offensive
- 22:37Speaker 5: line that has played four different left tackles this year.
- 22:41Speaker 5: The starting center has done for the season with I
- 22:44Speaker 5: think shoulder surgery. They've had a rotation of offensive line
- 22:48Speaker 5: play throughout the years. So in theory, you should be
- 22:50Speaker 5: able to take advantage of some of that on the
- 22:53Speaker 5: back end. It's not like they have superstar, you know,
- 22:56Speaker 5: skill players on the outside bucket. They got two veteran
- 22:59Speaker 5: ti who played a lot of football. And so we'll
- 23:03Speaker 5: see if the Jaguars defense can can get right this
- 23:06Speaker 5: week against a New England offense trying to steady itself. Now,
- 23:09Speaker 5: on the other side of things, that's the Jaguars offense
- 23:13Speaker 5: that didn't really perform that well last week. Obviously a
- 23:16Speaker 5: bunch of pre stat penalties drops for notably obviously all
- 23:20Speaker 5: It's all over X the four dropped touchdown passes. Some
- 23:23Speaker 5: of those were in the garbage time of the game.
- 23:25Speaker 5: But as an offense, where do you stand right now, Bucky?
- 23:29Speaker 5: And where do you continue to attack against the New
- 23:33Speaker 5: England defense? What do they have to offer on defense?
- 23:37Speaker 6: One, they're pretty good on defense because they're very similar
- 23:39Speaker 6: to how they were under Bill Belichick. They're staying really,
- 23:42Speaker 6: really close to those roots. They're defense that really does
- 23:46Speaker 6: a good job of not beating themselves. Meaning they're gonna
- 23:48Speaker 6: line up, they're gonna play the assignment. They have really
- 23:50Speaker 6: good adjustments. They're gonna play hard, and they're going to
- 23:53Speaker 6: make you have to make plays, meaning they're not.
- 23:55Speaker 7: Gonna give you anything cheap their defense.
- 23:58Speaker 6: That can change their their picture, changed the way they
- 24:01Speaker 6: go about it like they used to do in the past.
- 24:03Speaker 6: So what you may see in one week, they may
- 24:05Speaker 6: be something completely different than next week. So they may
- 24:08Speaker 6: be all man one week, zoned the next week. So
- 24:10Speaker 6: it's gonna be a really solid defense for the Jaguars.
- 24:13Speaker 7: Once again, it doesn't really matter who the opponent is.
- 24:16Speaker 6: You, Doug Peterson, Press Taylor, when you stand in front
- 24:19Speaker 6: of the offense, you got to talk about who we are,
- 24:21Speaker 6: what we're about, and we're gonna make sure that we
- 24:23Speaker 6: put our best foot forward. We can reduce things. We
- 24:26Speaker 6: want to play fast. We want everyone to know exactly
- 24:28Speaker 6: what we're doing. And anytime you have the amount of
- 24:31Speaker 6: mistakes that the Jaguars had, like the self inflicted eras,
- 24:36Speaker 6: to me, it means that there was too much on
- 24:38Speaker 6: their mind.
- 24:39Speaker 7: I want to simplify everything.
- 24:40Speaker 6: I want them to play fast, I want their talent
- 24:43Speaker 6: to show, So.
- 24:44Speaker 7: Look for them to be super basic this week.
- 24:46Speaker 6: I think it'd be a cookie cutter offensive plan, one
- 24:50Speaker 6: that is very basic, like a preseason plan, and let's
- 24:53Speaker 6: just see if you can win with your talent being
- 24:55Speaker 6: superior to the opponent.
- 24:57Speaker 3: Yeah. I think the two plays we just showed here
- 25:02Speaker 3: pretty much sum up what Bucky's talking about, you know,
- 25:04Speaker 3: self inflicted errors. They just showed the gave Davis drop
- 25:09Speaker 3: on the first series and then the Evan Ingram fumble,
- 25:14Speaker 3: and then if you combine that with a defensive drive
- 25:18Speaker 3: in the second half where you took away a trayvon
- 25:20Speaker 3: Zach with teve Man on the field and then had
- 25:22Speaker 3: two holes. You can't play this in the NFL because
- 25:26Speaker 3: you can do this in every game. But I'll play
- 25:27Speaker 3: it anyway because we're on you know, talking about four
- 25:34Speaker 3: points on the gave Davis touchdown, seven points given away
- 25:40Speaker 3: at that point. If those things go the other way,
- 25:42Speaker 3: you're a tie game. Get out of your own way,
- 25:46Speaker 3: and you're asking me what the offense can do to
- 25:48Speaker 3: do better? Catch the ball, JP back to you.
- 25:52Speaker 4: That's great analysis, John, really, but it's.
- 25:56Speaker 3: As simple as that. I was asked on a radio
- 25:57Speaker 3: show today, what do you do about drop pas. I
- 26:01Speaker 3: don't know. Catch the ball, that's it, and I don't
- 26:03Speaker 3: know how to coach that. Bucky, I don't know what
- 26:05Speaker 3: that means. How do you work on it? Get on
- 26:07Speaker 3: the rugs machine. Whatever your professional football players, it goes
- 26:11Speaker 3: back to the very top. Make the play when it's there.
- 26:15Speaker 3: I don't know how to coach it, you know. I
- 26:17Speaker 3: don't think you can coach it. I think at some point,
- 26:20Speaker 3: when you're playing this game and you're a big time player,
- 26:25Speaker 3: you got to make plays like that and give yourself
- 26:28Speaker 3: a chance to win. If you don't, you're not gonna win. Bucky.
- 26:32Speaker 3: And that's you know, boy, great analysis, Sean. But guess what, Bucky,
- 26:35Speaker 3: that's the best I got.
- 26:37Speaker 6: Now, that is the best you got to. Speaking of
- 26:39Speaker 6: the drop balls, look this game. From a tweet, Mike
- 26:43Speaker 6: de Rocco put.
- 26:44Speaker 7: This out there.
- 26:45Speaker 6: Jaguars have dropped one hundred and thirteen passes since twenty
- 26:50Speaker 6: twenty one, since Trevor's rookie season, most in the league,
- 26:53Speaker 6: twenty one more than the second place team Kansas City.
- 26:57Speaker 6: The rightdres tell them in terms of do your of
- 27:00Speaker 6: drop passes that we've seen from this crew of pass catchers.
- 27:03Speaker 6: And it can't necessarily be fixed in season. But if
- 27:08Speaker 6: you talk through some people, they would say that if
- 27:10Speaker 6: you want guys that can catch balls, you need to
- 27:12Speaker 6: draft guys that catch balls.
- 27:13Speaker 7: Consistently.
- 27:15Speaker 6: It's hard to teach someone how to catch in the pros.
- 27:18Speaker 6: Either you can or you can't. What you hope is
- 27:20Speaker 6: that they consistently work on it pre practice, post practice,
- 27:24Speaker 6: and they're able to concentrate and focus in game when
- 27:27Speaker 6: the ball.
- 27:27Speaker 7: Comes their way. That is something that they have to
- 27:29Speaker 7: continue to work on it. As professionals.
- 27:31Speaker 6: You put the expectation, hey, you need to work on
- 27:34Speaker 6: it before the practice, after practice, pregame. All those things
- 27:38Speaker 6: have to be important. But more importantly, this is an
- 27:41Speaker 6: execution issue. We are not executing at a level that
- 27:47Speaker 6: we need to perform well. It's inconsistent when it comes
- 27:50Speaker 6: to the execution. And once again, when you have execution problems,
- 27:55Speaker 6: it is a sign that you might be trying to
- 27:57Speaker 6: do too much. The Jaguars have to simply by everything,
- 28:01Speaker 6: go back to like it's a little league football team,
- 28:04Speaker 6: put a few concepts in and do it over and
- 28:07Speaker 6: over and over again. And ironically, that's what happened against
- 28:11Speaker 6: the Indianapolis Colts and the team played really well. They
- 28:14Speaker 6: need to go back to playing like that because that
- 28:16Speaker 6: has been the best that we've seen from this offense
- 28:19Speaker 6: this year.
- 28:22Speaker 5: I just shake my head when you say, treat it
- 28:24Speaker 5: like a little league football team, Bucky see NFL.
- 28:27Speaker 6: Man, Hey man, it is, but they're just big little leaguers.
- 28:31Speaker 7: They just get money.
- 28:32Speaker 6: And so what you want to do is treat them
- 28:34Speaker 6: as they are and help them get to where you
- 28:38Speaker 6: want them to be. And if they show you right
- 28:40Speaker 6: now because pre snap penalties, drop passes, things that are
- 28:44Speaker 6: very little league like, then what you do is you
- 28:46Speaker 6: treat them like little.
- 28:47Speaker 7: Leaguers until they prove otherwise.
- 28:49Speaker 6: And right now, a team that is sitting at one
- 28:51Speaker 6: in five, you have to build confidence by showing them
- 28:54Speaker 6: that they can execute things really well. And the other
- 28:57Speaker 6: way you can do it is you got to scale
- 28:58Speaker 6: it down and really go back to basics. And look,
- 29:01Speaker 6: it's frustrated because I feel like we've said this throughout
- 29:03Speaker 6: the season six weeks, like, hey, you gotta go back
- 29:05Speaker 6: to the basics, the fundamentals, simplicity, YadA, YadA YadA. But
- 29:09Speaker 6: that's what it is and it won't change until they
- 29:11Speaker 6: master the little things.
- 29:14Speaker 3: I used to get a snow cone when I played
- 29:15Speaker 3: Little league.
- 29:16Speaker 4: Hey, hey, look.
- 29:17Speaker 7: Man, I wouldn't put it past you.
- 29:21Speaker 6: When we talked about our cultural issue, I wouldn't put
- 29:24Speaker 6: it past coach Peterson put in a little cooler with
- 29:27Speaker 6: popsicles and ice cream, sandwiches and little things for them
- 29:31Speaker 6: to grab on the way off the field because right now,
- 29:34Speaker 6: look we're teetering on the brink of everything falling apart.
- 29:37Speaker 6: So maybe you have to reward them with a good
- 29:40Speaker 6: practice day. Hey, popsicles, ice cream for everybody, like you
- 29:44Speaker 6: gotta change the energy in the building, and that might
- 29:47Speaker 6: be one way to do it. Popsicles and little things
- 29:50Speaker 6: for everybody, little treats for everybody.
- 29:54Speaker 5: Well, I know one person who won't get to enjoy that,
- 29:56Speaker 5: Roy Robertson Harris. We'll get to the trade when we
- 29:58Speaker 5: come back. He is out of here and we're almost
- 30:01Speaker 5: out of here as well. It's Huddle Up with Bucky Brooks.
- 30:13Speaker 5: Huddle Up with Bucky Brooks. Brought to you by Field's Autogroup, Jacksonville.
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- 30:23Speaker 5: Library at the Grove.
- 30:25Speaker 4: We're outside of London. It's team headquarters.
- 30:27Speaker 5: This week was the Jaguars prepare to face the New
- 30:29Speaker 5: England Patriots under the Arch at Wimbley. This Sunday at
- 30:32Speaker 5: the nine thirty am kickoff Eastern time to thirty here
- 30:36Speaker 5: in London. Bucky Brooks with US in Los Angeles. Trade alert.
- 30:41Speaker 5: Roy Robertson Harris is gone. He's out of here. Late
- 30:44Speaker 5: round draft pick coming back from Seattle. Bucky, how about
- 30:47Speaker 5: this move to get out of the really the contract
- 30:50Speaker 5: of Roy Robertson Harris and move forward.
- 30:55Speaker 7: I would say this without being in the locker room whatever.
- 30:59Speaker 6: It seems maybe like a bit of a coincidence that
- 31:02Speaker 6: you have all the issues that come out on Sunday postgame,
- 31:06Speaker 6: and then all of a sudden Monday Tuesday, you have
- 31:08Speaker 6: a trade getting rid of people. Like normally, when you're
- 31:12Speaker 6: in these moments and you don't feel like the team
- 31:14Speaker 6: is trending the right way, you not only unload contracts,
- 31:18Speaker 6: you unload people who are unbecoming of how you want
- 31:21Speaker 6: things to go down. And that's not saying that Rore
- 31:23Speaker 6: Robinson Harrison was an issue, but obviously there was something
- 31:27Speaker 6: that the team felt like they were better moving on.
- 31:30Speaker 6: Because when you think about what's coming back, what's coming
- 31:33Speaker 6: back isn't.
- 31:33Speaker 7: Even coming back next year, it's come back two years
- 31:35Speaker 7: from now.
- 31:36Speaker 6: So be between the lines it is what it is,
- 31:39Speaker 6: but they felt like the locker room and the team
- 31:41Speaker 6: would be better without him on the squad. And I
- 31:44Speaker 6: think you might see more of those if there are
- 31:45Speaker 6: problems with the team that you will try and remove,
- 31:49Speaker 6: because before you can be a good team, and before
- 31:51Speaker 6: you can be a great team, you got to make
- 31:53Speaker 6: sure that everyone on the team is committed to pulling
- 31:57Speaker 6: the boat the right direction, and so I think you
- 31:59Speaker 6: may see other things if they're people that they.
- 32:01Speaker 7: Don't feel like are good fits for the.
- 32:03Speaker 6: Team and how the team wants to be constructed going forward.
- 32:07Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know that I got a vibe that
- 32:10Speaker 3: Roy was a problem on that front, but I think
- 32:14Speaker 3: it was to me more that you know, he was
- 32:19Speaker 3: probably closer to a role player than an impact player frankly,
- 32:23Speaker 3: since the end of the twenty two season, and they
- 32:26Speaker 3: saw an opportunity to get out of the contract. And
- 32:30Speaker 3: so I guess I just make that point because I
- 32:34Speaker 3: don't know that Roy was a problem on that front.
- 32:37Speaker 4: JP.
- 32:38Speaker 3: I didn't sense that, but I think it was probably just, hey,
- 32:42Speaker 3: you know, we've got a lot of players, A defensive tackle,
- 32:45Speaker 3: ye who. Frankly, the whole group has just been okay.
- 32:51Speaker 3: At best. So if you got a chance to have
- 32:53Speaker 3: a bunch of okay guys and trade one guy who's
- 32:57Speaker 3: sort of part of a group, and you go ahead
- 33:00Speaker 3: and do that, but so just my two cents.
- 33:03Speaker 4: So yeah, so he's out of here.
- 33:04Speaker 5: And now the Jaguars move forward to Wembley to face
- 33:08Speaker 5: the New England Patriots this week a battle of one
- 33:11Speaker 5: in five football teams. Two thirty kickoff here in London,
- 33:14Speaker 5: nine thirty am back in Jacksonville. The Jaguars now six
- 33:18Speaker 5: and six in London all time after this past Sunday's game,
- 33:21Speaker 5: four and five all time at Wembley. There are events
- 33:25Speaker 5: the next few days off the field, some Jaguars players involved,
- 33:30Speaker 5: some not business luncheons, all these things going on around
- 33:33Speaker 5: the game. But it all builds up, Bucky to Sunday
- 33:36Speaker 5: at Wembley. What's your gut quickly? On the game?
- 33:40Speaker 7: I think they bounced back. I think it's a resilient
- 33:42Speaker 7: group in terms of like they'll show up and be professionals.
- 33:45Speaker 6: Normally, when a team is embarrassed like that, you get
- 33:47Speaker 6: a much better performance the next week. I would expect
- 33:51Speaker 6: to see the team play better on Sunday.
- 33:53Speaker 7: I think, look, I think they understand what they're up against.
- 33:57Speaker 6: And when you have pride, which I think every remember
- 34:00Speaker 6: of this team has, you show up and I expect
- 34:02Speaker 6: them to show up and show out and put a
- 34:04Speaker 6: much better product on display.
- 34:06Speaker 7: When wirem wmbley.
- 34:08Speaker 3: Yeah, very quick. I think they came out strong against
- 34:11Speaker 3: the Bears. I think then in the second half against
- 34:13Speaker 3: the Bears they played a team that was better than
- 34:17Speaker 3: they were. I think they'll come out strong against New
- 34:19Speaker 3: England and they'll be playing a team that's probably not
- 34:22Speaker 3: better than they are, So I think they'll won't face
- 34:25Speaker 3: as much adversity in this game because look, on paper,
- 34:30Speaker 3: the Patriots are building. The Jaguars are built for an hour,
- 34:32Speaker 3: even though they haven't played like it. So I think
- 34:35Speaker 3: I don't doubt that they will come out playing well,
- 34:37Speaker 3: and I think they'll get more benefit from having played
- 34:41Speaker 3: well early and it'll be a different game on that front.
- 34:44Speaker 3: But I well, that translated into them being a lot
- 34:47Speaker 3: better for the entire season. I can't sit here and
- 34:50Speaker 3: say that yet. I got to see that.
- 34:52Speaker 5: We'll find out this week nine to thirty Eastern kickoff.
- 34:56Speaker 4: Bucky will talk to you. You're coming back right.
- 35:00Speaker 7: I'm back on it. Back on the Burke, right.
- 35:02Speaker 3: Back International, Bucky.
- 35:05Speaker 4: I can't imagine the sky miles you have by now.
- 35:08Speaker 4: I mean you're.
- 35:09Speaker 7: Racking them up, cracking them up, killing.
- 35:13Speaker 5: In the front of the plane every single time. That's
- 35:15Speaker 5: Bucky Brooks first Class.
- 35:16Speaker 4: Bucky. This is John Oser and j P. Shadduck.
- 35:19Speaker 5: We're back in coach as usual. Thanks for our entire
- 35:22Speaker 5: crew on both sides of the pond. As always.
- 35:25Speaker 4: We'll catch you next time on Huddle Up with Bucky Brooks.