Latest / Becker’s Healthcare Podcast / Leading a Thriving Critical Access Hospital in a Challenging Market with Joe Caristi
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- 0:02Every year, Becker's annual meeting brings healthcare leaders
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- 0:38This is Scott Becker with the Becker's Healthcare
- 0:41Podcast.
- 0:42We're thrilled today to be joined by a
- 0:44brilliant leader in healthcare. We're joined today by
- 0:47Joe Caristi,
- 0:48and Joe's the chief financial officer of Spirit
- 0:51Memorial Hospital.
- 0:53He's in the Northeast. We're gonna talk to
- 0:55Joe about New England winters, whether it's freezing
- 0:57or not, and a lot more, and whether
- 0:59he's a Patriots fan. Joe, can you take
- 1:02a moment and introduce yourself and and tell
- 1:04us a little bit about Spear Memorial Hospital
- 1:06and and about your career?
- 1:08Sure. So as you mentioned, I'm Joe Christie,
- 1:10the CFO at Spear Memorial Hospital.
- 1:13We are a proudly independent critical access hospital
- 1:16located in Central New Hampshire.
- 1:19And, you know, I think much like other
- 1:20critical access hospitals really strive to provide local
- 1:23care to our patients.
- 1:24And we provide a whole lot of local
- 1:27specialty services that we're pretty proud of, including,
- 1:30labor and delivery, obstetrics, and pediatrics.
- 1:34Fantastic. And talk about the world of critical
- 1:36access hospitals today. What what's the key to
- 1:39a critical access hospital
- 1:42thriving and doing okay? Because I I know
- 1:43it's a challenging time for small and independent
- 1:45hospitals.
- 1:46Some though that really have clarity about what
- 1:48they're doing seem to do fine. Tell us
- 1:50a little bit about what what works, what
- 1:52doesn't work. What is the what is the
- 1:53key?
- 1:55I I think in a lot of critical
- 1:56access hospitals today, you're seeing,
- 1:59obviously increased pressure from a reimbursement
- 2:01perspective. And how do you balance that with
- 2:03the needs of your community and potentially any
- 2:06growth strategies that, that your organization might be
- 2:09able to,
- 2:10pursue?
- 2:11And so at Spear, we're focusing very hard
- 2:13on on those two things, making sure we're
- 2:15we're staying very on top of changes to
- 2:18reimbursement as they're coming,
- 2:20mitigating the impacts of those changes to the
- 2:22best of our abilities,
- 2:24and really trying to ensure that we have
- 2:25the resources we need to
- 2:28continue delivering the services we currently provide to
- 2:30our community, but also be able to expand.
- 2:33And there there's there's some opportunity for us,
- 2:36to to do more, and we're really trying
- 2:38hard to to make that happen.
- 2:41Thank you. When when where are the areas
- 2:42that you'd like to expand into? Where where
- 2:45where where are you trying to do that?
- 2:48Yeah. You know, in our, geography,
- 2:51there's,
- 2:52a pretty broad need for both primary care
- 2:54and specialty services.
- 2:57And, you know, as a critical access hospital,
- 2:59there's no reason we can't provide,
- 3:01both of those things,
- 3:03to to our community. So,
- 3:05the the challenge is when it comes to
- 3:08the kind of the cost and the outlay
- 3:10of establishing new locations, new clinics,
- 3:13etcetera. And so,
- 3:15we're we're being very mindful and careful about
- 3:17how we execute that strategy.
- 3:20You know, we're we're,
- 3:22able to benefit from,
- 3:24cost reimbursement for Medicare,
- 3:27so ensuring that we're maximizing that whenever we
- 3:29can with new locations.
- 3:32But, again, it ties back to that relationship
- 3:34between reimbursement
- 3:36and and kind of our cost outlay and
- 3:38and,
- 3:39making sure that those two things balance.
- 3:41Thank you.
- 3:43You've been a a a chief financial officer
- 3:45for some time.
- 3:47What are some of the lessons that you've
- 3:49learned as a CFO? What are some of
- 3:51the things that,
- 3:52that that sort of like that maybe you
- 3:55didn't think about originally in health care when
- 3:57you were a practice manager doing performance improvement.
- 4:00But when you have the whole picture now
- 4:02of of being a CFO,
- 4:03how do you look at things differently or
- 4:05if you do look at things differently?
- 4:07I certainly think I look at things differently
- 4:09now being, having some some CFO experience. You
- 4:12know, I guess I would say,
- 4:14at least in my professional career, looking back,
- 4:17and especially, again, being CFO now,
- 4:20there's never been a time in health care
- 4:21where we have ever felt like we had
- 4:23the appropriate amount of staff, whether it's rev
- 4:26cycle or nursing or on the provider side
- 4:28of things.
- 4:29We always feel chronically understaffed.
- 4:32And so from a finance perspective, you know,
- 4:33we're not gonna staff our way through those
- 4:35challenges. Really, we're gonna be able to meet
- 4:37the the needs of today through process improvement,
- 4:40new technology,
- 4:42investments in in workflow,
- 4:44and,
- 4:45structural design.
- 4:46So I, you know, I think that's something
- 4:48I've certainly come to appreciate more and more
- 4:50as a CFO, and it's a talking point
- 4:52I often repeat with our leaders and directors
- 4:54across the organization.
- 4:57Thank you. When you look at this year
- 4:58coming up, what are you most focused on
- 5:00and excited about?
- 5:03I would say we're most focused on,
- 5:06the changes to reimbursement. We're most excited about
- 5:08the new innovations that are coming to market,
- 5:10particularly,
- 5:11with the advent of AI.
- 5:13There's a lot of legacy workflows in health
- 5:16care
- 5:17that,
- 5:18are right for innovation, and I think AI
- 5:20is really going to,
- 5:21bring a lot of those workflows,
- 5:24to a much more modernized state. So we've
- 5:26we've heavily invested in AI.
- 5:29We were early adopters of, NBL listening for,
- 5:33documentation assistance for our providers.
- 5:36We are,
- 5:37looking at all kinds of AI tools that
- 5:39might be applied to our revenue cycle,
- 5:42And we're also trying to help our staff
- 5:44just understand,
- 5:45even with the large language models that are
- 5:47out there, you know, what are the
- 5:49safe and effective ways that we can use
- 5:51those in health care,
- 5:53to do things like help our leaders write
- 5:55job descriptions
- 5:56and maybe help them write policies.
- 5:59You know, cutting a few hours out of,
- 6:01all of their days,
- 6:03can can really make a big difference.
- 6:05Thank you. And and you've had this great
- 6:07career. Your lifelong learner went back to Johns
- 6:10Hopkins for a master's degree. You must be
- 6:13proud of that. And aside from being proud
- 6:15of that,
- 6:16what advice do you give to other emerging
- 6:18leaders about lifelong learning, about professional skills?
- 6:22What advice would you give to people that
- 6:23are emerging professionals and leaders?
- 6:26Sure. I think,
- 6:28so the the master's degree you mentioned was
- 6:30in systems engineering,
- 6:32and might seem like an atypical
- 6:35degree,
- 6:36but I don't think it could be any
- 6:37more relevant than, than it is today in
- 6:39health care. We operate and and function,
- 6:43and manage
- 6:45highly complex
- 6:46systems in health care,
- 6:49And so having a a mindset and a
- 6:51framework for systems thinking and how we approach
- 6:53complex problems,
- 6:55I think is really important. The other piece
- 6:57of advice I would really give, a new
- 6:59leader, especially somebody,
- 7:01you know, looking to to grow, and this
- 7:02is a piece of advice I was given
- 7:04once upon a time in my career,
- 7:06is the way you get stuff done is
- 7:07through relationships and influence.
- 7:09And so at every step, at every point
- 7:11in your career,
- 7:12use every interaction as an opportunity to form
- 7:15a relationship,
- 7:16and that will serve you incredibly well,
- 7:19as you go about being a change agent,
- 7:21try to implement new new technology, new services,
- 7:25any kinda process improvements.
- 7:28All of those things are far more successful
- 7:30if you have established
- 7:32trustworthy relationships with with those involved.
- 7:35Fantastic.
- 7:36And and I I I'd love your career.
- 7:38Congratulations on what you're doing at Spirit Memorial.
- 7:41Is it is it ski season up there
- 7:43in New Hampshire or in the in the
- 7:45Northeast or or not so much ski weather?
- 7:48It's definitely ski season. We've had a wonderful
- 7:50start to the winter. Although the past week
- 7:52or so, it's been a little bit little
- 7:53bit warm, but we got plenty of snow
- 7:55on the ground, and I know the the
- 7:56ski mountains are quite happy right now. So
- 7:59That is fantastic.
- 8:01It is great to visit with you. I
- 8:02I loved your success stories from critical access
- 8:05hospitals and thriving. Thank you so much for
- 8:07taking the time to visit with us today
- 8:09and continued good work. What a pleasure to
- 8:11visit with you, Joe. Thank you so much.
- 8:13Likewise, Scott. Really appreciate it.