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49ers rookie Kaelon Black on CMC, Brock Purdy, Kyle Shanahan & hia NFL debut | Richard Sherman · The Richard Sherman Podcast

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  Speaker 1: San Francisco third-round pick from Indiana University national champion Kalon Black.
• 0:07
  Speaker 1: Appreciate you joining me, brother.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, man. Appreciate you for having me on, man.
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  Speaker 3: Bless.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, man. Ever since you got here, I haven't seen you.
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  Speaker 1: I haven't got to go to practice and watch it.
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  Speaker 1: But everybody has talked about how much of a pro
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  Speaker 1: you are, how mature you are, how the game is
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  Speaker 1: coming easy to you, how explosive you are. How has
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  Speaker 1: your first... I guess, a couple of months in San
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  Speaker 1: Francisco been? Well, I guess Santa Clara.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been great, man.
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  Speaker 2: Definitely eye-opening. Just, you know, blessed to be out here.
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  Speaker 2: Blessed for the opportunity. And, you know, I'm ready to just,
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  Speaker 2: you know, prove myself to the whole world.
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  Speaker 4: Like I said, man, I'm just grateful for, you know,
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  Speaker 4: the Niners picking me. I know I was, you know,
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  Speaker 4: it wasn't as highly, you know, anticipated to go high
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  Speaker 4: in the draft or anything like that.
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  Speaker 2: But, you know, like I said, I'm just blessed, man,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm ready to roll.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, speaking of that, you came from James Madison,
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  Speaker 1: you know, and you obviously weren't the most heralded guy,
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  Speaker 1: but then you get to Indiana and you guys roar
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  Speaker 1: your way to a national championship. And a lot of it,
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  Speaker 1: they wrote, you were the bell cow, you know what
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  Speaker 1: I mean? And you got it done at a high level.
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  Speaker 1: How much did that season mean to you?
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  Speaker 3: It meant a lot.
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  Speaker 4: I just feel like, you know, that team right there
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  Speaker 4: was just, you know, the closest team that I've been on.
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  Speaker 4: You know, you have guys like, you know, Fernando Mendoza
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  Speaker 4: and D'Angelo Pons, Aiden Fisher, like all NFL guys now,
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  Speaker 4: I feel like, you know, the camaraderie, you know, the leadership,
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  Speaker 4: you know, in the building was just great. And I
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  Speaker 4: feel like, you know, it's led to our success, you know,
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  Speaker 4: even getting into the pros.
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  Speaker 3: No question. It looked like you guys were well coached.
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  Speaker 1: You guys were taught to be professional and everything you
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  Speaker 1: guys were taught has translated to the pros. Do you
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  Speaker 1: have a bit of a chip on your shoulder being
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  Speaker 1: the third running back pick in a draft or were
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  Speaker 1: you happy with where you picked and where you landed?
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  Speaker 2: Man, honestly, I've always had a chip on my shoulder.
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  Speaker 4: I was going to have it, you know, regardless if
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  Speaker 4: I was undrafted, you know, seventh round or anything like that. Honestly,
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  Speaker 4: I just feel like, you know, my play style, I
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  Speaker 4: just want to be ferocious. You know, I want to,
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  Speaker 4: you know, run hard, be explosive. And, you know, that
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  Speaker 4: chip is just going to be there regardless.
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  Speaker 2: I love the game.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: So do I. So do I.
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  Speaker 1: It looked like you love the game. But walk me
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  Speaker 1: through draft day. Walk me through draft day. How did
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  Speaker 1: it happen? How excited were you when you got that
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  Speaker 1: call and you realized you were headed to the San
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  Speaker 1: Francisco 49ers?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, man. Day two.
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  Speaker 4: Honestly, I didn't know at all. You know, I had
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  Speaker 4: been on, you know, had some talks with, you know,
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  Speaker 4: Bobby T or whatever. And I honestly just wasn't sure.
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  Speaker 4: I wasn't sure at all that day. But, you know,
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  Speaker 4: I had this feeling in the back of my mind of, hey,
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  Speaker 4: something may happen. Something may happen, you know, later that day.
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  Speaker 4: I got a call from, you know, a California number
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  Speaker 4: and my heart dropped. I was outside talking with some
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  Speaker 4: of my guys and next to, you know, my phone
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  Speaker 4: started buzzing in my pocket, picked it up and it was,
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  Speaker 4: you know, it was the Niners. And I'm just like, yo,
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  Speaker 4: there's no way this has happened. And, you know, this is,
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  Speaker 4: this is something that I've been dreaming of since I
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  Speaker 4: was four years old. Like I've been playing football since
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  Speaker 4: I was four. So, you know, to finally get the opportunity,
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  Speaker 4: you know, go through it all, get drafted. You know,
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  Speaker 4: I have books at home where, you know, I have
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  Speaker 4: these scenarios written out and things of that nature.
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  Speaker 2: So, you know, it's been a blessing, man.
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  Speaker 4: And, And like I said, like, you know, I've been
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  Speaker 4: dreaming of it for so long and for it to
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  Speaker 4: finally happen, it's just like, it's so amazing that day.
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  Speaker 1: Man, I'm so excited for you. That was such a
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  Speaker 1: big deal and it's such a great place to get
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  Speaker 1: drafted to. It's such a great organization, great coaching staff.
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  Speaker 1: Please tell my guy, Bobby T, I said hello when you,
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  Speaker 1: when you see him.
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  Speaker 3: That's my guy. That's my guy.
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  Speaker 1: Well, all those are my guys, but, How has the
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  Speaker 1: organization been so far? How has it been learning from CMC,
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  Speaker 1: one of the best running backs in the National Football League,
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  Speaker 1: and one of the best all-around backs in the history
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  Speaker 1: of the National Football League?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely, man. It's been great, you know, learning from
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  Speaker 2: guys like CMC.
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  Speaker 4: Like, he's never, you know, shied away from trying to
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  Speaker 4: give game, you know, on certain scenarios, you know, certain plays. Like,
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  Speaker 4: you know the system. You were here, so it's, you know,
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  Speaker 4: it's a lot going on. So, he's definitely been one
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  Speaker 4: of the guys that helped me out, along with all
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  Speaker 4: the other running backs as well. So, You know, it's,
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  Speaker 4: you know, one of those things where you come in
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  Speaker 4: as a rookie, you try your best to, you know,
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  Speaker 4: find someone that's going to help you out the most.
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  Speaker 2: And CMC has always been that guy for me.
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  Speaker 3: And how is it playing with Brock Purdy?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, obviously the most underrated quarterback in the National
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  Speaker 1: Football League, an absolute dog, an absolute talent. He's one
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  Speaker 1: of those guys that you really can't appreciate how good
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  Speaker 1: he is until you're in the huddle with him, until
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  Speaker 1: he's your teammate, until you see him go out there
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  Speaker 1: and deal with How has it been watching him perform
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  Speaker 1: at quarterback?
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  Speaker 4: Man, he's so smart. Like, when he's out there on
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  Speaker 4: that field, he's going to know the ins and outs
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  Speaker 4: of everything. And he doesn't like mistakes at all. But
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  Speaker 4: he's also one of those guys who is just so
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  Speaker 4: detailed and.
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  Speaker 2: You know, so focused. And I love being out there
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  Speaker 2: with him.
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  Speaker 4: You know, it's just like, you know, that comfortability really
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  Speaker 4: with him and all the other quarterbacks as well. Like,
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  Speaker 4: you can tell they're, you know, they're coached well. You know,
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  Speaker 4: Coach Shanahan expects nothing less.
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  Speaker 3: Because they take me back to my childhood era, man. R.I.P.
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  Speaker 1: Any chance I get to just remember the bean and
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  Speaker 1: sneakers and sports memorabilia to actually fit in my collection.
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  Speaker 5: I found a signed Barry Sanders jersey. Richard, it brought
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  Speaker 5: me back to my youth. I found it on Whatnot.
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  Speaker 3: Terms apply.
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  Speaker 1: Which were there any, you know, obviously you're a pro
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  Speaker 1: now and, you know, but it's human nature to somehow
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  Speaker 1: you're a fan of this game. You watch this game
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  Speaker 1: your whole life. You've been watching the NFL your whole life.
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  Speaker 1: Were there any of your teammates where you're like, man,
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  Speaker 1: this dude, we really out here together. Um, obviously, you know,
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  Speaker 1: Trent Williams, the silverback been in the game a long
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  Speaker 1: time and played at a real high level. Was there
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  Speaker 1: anybody that kind of just surprised you or kind of
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  Speaker 1: had you at all in all?
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  Speaker 2: Honestly, man.
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  Speaker 4: Um, CMC first meeting him. Cause he was always one
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  Speaker 4: of those guys that I always watch, you know, his
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  Speaker 4: Stanford highlights and even, you know, Carolina to now the Niners.
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  Speaker 4: But then Trent Williams, like you said, like I didn't
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  Speaker 4: realize he was that big. And also growing up, like
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  Speaker 4: I was a Washington fan. So, you know, he was
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  Speaker 4: on Washington and like, you know, I was like, you know, third,
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  Speaker 4: fourth grade. Now, like I'm in my first year in
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  Speaker 4: the league and we on the same team. So it
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  Speaker 4: was just like, it was real eyeopening to me.
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  Speaker 3: But he's a, he's a great teammate though, man.
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  Speaker 1: He's a, He's big, aggressive, strong, you know, but a
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  Speaker 1: guy that will get you the shirt off his back,
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  Speaker 1: obviously a great teammate. Fred Warner, I'm sure, might have
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  Speaker 1: surprised you. Fred Warner is such a smart and aggressive
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  Speaker 1: and physical player. I'm sure your forearms are sore from
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  Speaker 1: all the punching and all that from him.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he different.
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  Speaker 4: Like I told him, I'm pretty sure yesterday, I'm like, yo,
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  Speaker 4: I like it's different seeing you out there, you know, practicing,
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  Speaker 4: but then in the game, it's like a whole different mode.
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  Speaker 4: Like you, you watch the plays where he's just diving
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  Speaker 4: in the air, making tackles, like with no, like no
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  Speaker 4: stability in his feet.
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  Speaker 2: And he's just out there doing anything. And it's just like,
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  Speaker 2: it's fun to see. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. You got, it's crazy because you practice with these guys,
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  Speaker 1: but when you see him perform, you don't realize because
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  Speaker 1: you're not going against other competition, but these are some
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  Speaker 1: of the best in the league period. These are some
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  Speaker 1: of the, Fred's the best linebacker in the league, period.
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  Speaker 1: It's not like you're just going against some Joe. Nick,
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  Speaker 1: one of the best D linemen in the league, just
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  Speaker 1: won defensive MVP player of the year a couple years ago. Like,
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  Speaker 1: these are real monsters at their position, so it's really
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  Speaker 1: cool to watch. But how crazy was it for your
• 8:50
  Speaker 1: first career NFL game to be in Australia? I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it's the first game they've ever had in Australia, to
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  Speaker 1: my knowledge, and it's your first career game.
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  Speaker 4: Man, it was honestly crazy to take all in. Like,
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  Speaker 4: The first one to be in Australia, for one, but
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  Speaker 4: for two to, like, for it to be the first
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  Speaker 4: one was just, like, so, like I said, so eye-opening. Like,
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  Speaker 4: you're like, I'm just blessed for the opportunity to really
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  Speaker 4: just be here, you know, be on the active roster,
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  Speaker 4: you know, be behind a guy like CMC and we
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  Speaker 4: can do this thing together. Like, and then you're playing
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  Speaker 4: in a huge crowd, 100-plus thousand.
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  Speaker 2: Like, it was.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'd be at a loss for words, honestly. But
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  Speaker 4: it was just a great feeling to finally be able
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  Speaker 4: to accomplish my dream.
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  Speaker 3: No question.
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  Speaker 1: And you looked comfortable doing it. You looked comfortable. You
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  Speaker 1: looked aggressive. I mean, you still had that pep in yourself.
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  Speaker 1: You got a great burst, a great acceleration. Was there
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  Speaker 1: any welcome to the league moments during training camp or
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  Speaker 1: in that first game that you could think of?
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  Speaker 2: Honestly, man, that's a great question.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, mine might not be physical. But I would
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  Speaker 4: say like for the mental aspect, like coming into this
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  Speaker 4: system and realizing how different it is than college, like
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  Speaker 4: this is the welcome to the league moment for me. Like,
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  Speaker 4: you know, not only do you have to know your
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  Speaker 4: running back stuff, but you got to know, you know,
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  Speaker 4: your receiver stuff as well. You want to know what
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  Speaker 4: everyone else around you is doing more so than you
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  Speaker 4: did in college. So I feel like, you know, coming
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  Speaker 4: into this offense, You know, it's definitely opened my eyes,
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  Speaker 4: but also, like, opened my brain as well. You know,
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  Speaker 4: just making me feel, like, you know, smarter. But also, hey,
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  Speaker 4: you know, this is a new coming week. So, there's
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  Speaker 4: a whole new set of plays, a whole new install. So, hey,
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  Speaker 4: you got to be ready.
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  Speaker 1: And Kyle is going to challenge you. Kyle is going
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  Speaker 1: to challenge you. He's going to explain the game in
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  Speaker 1: a way. I love this Monday meetings because it feels
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  Speaker 1: like you in class learning football all over again. You're like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: I didn't even know. Think that about the game, but
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  Speaker 1: that's a good point, Coach. You said, so the linebacker
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  Speaker 1: went here. That's why you... Okay. All right.
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  Speaker 3: I see what you got going here, Kyle. Exactly. How
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  Speaker 3: have you... What's your impression of Kyle Shanahan so far?
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  Speaker 4: Man, I love Kyle. He's so detailed, and he explains
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  Speaker 4: everything so well. He goes defensive-wise and offensive-wise, but the
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  Speaker 4: way he explains defense is almost like he's a defensive coordinator.
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  Speaker 4: You wouldn't even expect him to really sound like the
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  Speaker 4: way he does when he explains it, but It's just like, hey,
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  Speaker 4: that's my coach.
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  Speaker 2: He liked that.
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  Speaker 3: He liked that.
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  Speaker 1: When you see it from afar, you can't really appreciate
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  Speaker 1: it as much as you can when you're in the
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  Speaker 1: building and you really can hear his mind.
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  Speaker 3: And you're like, bro, you're a savant wizard in this.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. And it's one of those things where, hey,
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  Speaker 2: I just hope people stop sleeping on him. I really do.
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  Speaker 2: He's one of them guys.
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  Speaker 4: And you can definitely tell he cares about the game
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  Speaker 4: and he's been in the system for a long time.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you can help him stop sleeping on him by
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  Speaker 1: continuing to tote the rock like you have been. You
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  Speaker 1: get to go against your teammate this year, November 4th.
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  Speaker 1: Y'all play the Raiders and your quarterback. That's going to
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  Speaker 1: be a fun game for you, I'm sure.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely, man.
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  Speaker 4: Like, Fernando is, you know, he's smart, man. Everybody sees
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  Speaker 4: how he is as a player. You know, even outside
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  Speaker 4: of football, man, he's a great guy, real humble. But,
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  Speaker 4: you know, going against him, you know, that day, I mean,
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  Speaker 4: we seen him in the preseason or whatever, but You know,
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  Speaker 4: when it's real ball, when it comes in, you know,
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  Speaker 4: we're going to be ready. We're going to be ready
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  Speaker 4: to ball.
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  Speaker 3: What have you seen for the Miami Dolphins this week?
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  Speaker 4: Man, honestly, man, we know that, you know, they're a pretty,
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  Speaker 4: you know, young team. But they have some guys that
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  Speaker 4: can make plays. You know, linebacker Rodriguez, he's back there,
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  Speaker 4: you know, calling the shots. And that's mainly, you know,
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  Speaker 4: some of the things that we've seen so far. You know,
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  Speaker 4: as we, you know, do more film study of them,
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  Speaker 4: we also know that their special teams unit is good
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  Speaker 4: as well. They had some great, you know, explosive returns. So,
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  Speaker 4: you know, we're going to have our hands full. I
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  Speaker 4: also wanted to make sure that we're, you know, locked
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  Speaker 4: in in all phases, you know, being us and, you know,
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  Speaker 4: staying focused.
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  Speaker 2: And, you know, being locked in.
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  Speaker 1: Before we get out of here, were there any, like, surprises,
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  Speaker 1: things you didn't expect about the league that you've come
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  Speaker 1: to learn, whether it's harder or easier or just different
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  Speaker 1: than what you expected?
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  Speaker 4: Honestly, man, like, I'm sure you felt this when you
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  Speaker 4: came into the league.
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  Speaker 2: Like, at the end of the day, it's just football.
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  Speaker 2: You just go out there and you be you.
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  Speaker 4: You play full speed, 100% effort on the field at
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  Speaker 4: all times. It's not going to be anything that you
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  Speaker 4: haven't done before. And I feel like you go out
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  Speaker 4: there with that mentality that at the end of the day,
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  Speaker 4: you're going to have some success. And there's always things
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  Speaker 4: to learn to get better at. But you be you.
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  Speaker 4: It's just that simple.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm going to let you go. But before we
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  Speaker 1: get out of here, you got any questions for me?
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  Speaker 1: Anything you want to ask or anything you want to say?
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  Speaker 1: before we get out of here?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, man.
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  Speaker 4: How did you feel like you got better throughout, you know,
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  Speaker 4: your earlier years in terms of, you know, your schedule,
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  Speaker 4: things that you did to, you know, help yourself get better?
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  Speaker 3: A lot of it is just kind of.
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  Speaker 1: Learning to delegate your time and kind of prioritizing the
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  Speaker 1: important things.
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  Speaker 3: Obviously, it's your rookie year.
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  Speaker 1: You're coming from like all-star games and combine training and everything,
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  Speaker 1: then you get into OTAs, minicamp, it just feels like
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  Speaker 1: you never got a break. And so you kind of
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  Speaker 1: just got to weather through your rookie year, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and just kind of figure it out. But once you
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  Speaker 1: get done with your rookie year, you find a place
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  Speaker 1: to stay, make sure you're stable there, whether you buy
• 14:21
  Speaker 1: a house or you rent a house, you start to
• 14:23
  Speaker 1: figure out your off-season schedule. Maybe you take a couple vacations,
• 14:27
  Speaker 1: a vacation or two. You find out where you're going
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: to train before you get to training, I mean, before
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  Speaker 1: you get to OTAs and and things like that. But
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  Speaker 1: a lot of it is just, it's self crit critiquing yourself,
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  Speaker 1: watching yourself on tape, recognizing the mistakes you made and
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  Speaker 1: just being really critical of yourself, especially early on about
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: your weaknesses, your strengths, you know what they are, you
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: know what, you know what you can lean on always,
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: but in the league, in order for you to thrive
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  Speaker 1: and continue to grow, it's the weaknesses that you really
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: got to focus on the things in your game that
• 14:58
  Speaker 1: you know, you don't do well. It's okay to understand
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  Speaker 1: and accept that. Now you ain't got to tell nobody else,
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  Speaker 1: but you can work on those things. Like when you
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: get back to OTAs, it's hard to work on them
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  Speaker 1: during the season. You can try, but when you get
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: to the off season and you understand the weaknesses that
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: you have, all OTAs and mini camp and training camp,
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  Speaker 1: it should be working on those weaknesses so they ain't
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  Speaker 1: weaknesses no more. And so the more you can do
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  Speaker 1: that and the more you can minimize those weaknesses, the
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: more complete and elite of a player you become.
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  Speaker 3: That makes sense.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it does, man. That's love. I appreciate that for sure.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, sir. Yes, sir. What about you? What's your goals
• 15:35
  Speaker 3: for this season?
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: Man, my goals, honestly, like, I want a Super Bowl.
• 15:40
  Speaker 4: You know, but we got to take that one week
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  Speaker 4: at a time, you know, one day at a time,
• 15:44
  Speaker 4: one practice at a time. But honestly, that's my goal.
• 15:47
  Speaker 4: You know, I want to win. You know, I want
• 15:49
  Speaker 4: to contribute the best way that I can. And, you know, just,
• 15:52
  Speaker 4: you know, improve my love for the game of ball.
• 15:55
  Speaker 4: You know, just continue to be me. You know, pick
• 15:58
  Speaker 4: up some things along the way because, of course, I'm
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  Speaker 4: not perfect. but you know, I just want to be
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  Speaker 4: the best that I can be at all times.
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  Speaker 1: That's a great goal. That's a great goal. Just keep,
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: keep pushing the limit, keep pushing the limit. Don't put a,
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: don't put a cap on yourself no matter what. Um,
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: you know, it seems like you're a great young man
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  Speaker 1: and I, you, you, you landed in a great organization
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  Speaker 1: with some great men and great leaders in there. You know, don't,
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: you never know too much and you're never, you're never
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: too good to learn and you're never too good to
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: pick up habits. You got, you're around a bunch of pros, pros,
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: you know, it's, it's, keep your eyes open, keep your
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: ears open. The things that they're saying, whether it's investing,
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: whether it's other, you know, life outside of football, like
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: learn from them because it's a reason they've been in
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: the league as long as they have. It's a reason
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: CMC has played as well as he has for as
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: long as he has and been as good as he has.
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: So when you, when you figure that out, I mean,
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: when you, when you talk to him about those things,
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: just continue to pick his brain, continue to like ask
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: the questions. Those guys want you to be great. They
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: know what it feels like to be a rookie. They
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: know what it's like to be the guy who, who
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: was overlooked or the guy who doesn't know his way yet.
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: So the guys that have played for a long time,
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: ask them the questions. That's, that's what my biggest advice
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: would be.
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  Speaker 2: Definitely, man.
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  Speaker 4: I would definitely be doing that, especially with a guy
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: like CMC and you got Fred Warner, Trent, got everybody
• 17:16
  Speaker 4: on this team to be able to learn from.
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: So I'll definitely be picking their brain.
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you should, you should. That's, that's going to be
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: big time and, and speak up for yourself. Well, rookies,
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: the rookies better seen, not, not heard. So just, you
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: know what I mean? And some of that, you.
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: Know what I mean? If they tell you to do
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: something that's rude, just do it.
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: It's easier.
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: There's no haze in the National Football League, but it's
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: easier to just do what they ask you to do.
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I got you.
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: All love, brother.
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: I appreciate you joining me. I know it's your off day.
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: Thank you for taking the time to hang out.
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: Hey, man. Thank you for having me on, man. I
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: appreciate you.
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: Yes, sir. Appreciate you.
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  Speaker 1: Bye-bye.