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A.I. EP. 201: The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King 20th Anniversary - “You Bow To No One” · The Avid Indoorsmen

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  Dead and Maiden. The sun is shining, not a cloud in the sky.
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  We wouldn't know because we're so happy inside. Some people boater boot on
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  some skis, but we would rather sit on down and talk some movies.
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  We're the Abbot Indoorsmen. Gun, listen to our show. We're the Abbot
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  Indoorsmen at home or on the go. We're the avid indoors Man. So
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  come on in and stay. We'll do our best to make you smile.
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  We're indoors man. What is happening? I'm Rob on Quist and I'm Books
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  and we are the Abbot Indoorsman. Hi, buddy, Hello, how are
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  you? You know? I'm doing great. My folks have been in town
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  the last couple of days. We've been eating a lot of great food and
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  just having a nice time. It's been Oh that's awesome. Yeah. Now
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  I've told them to be quiet. Well we record, because I forgot that
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  we were doing it. Me though, I never know what she's doing over
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  there. I never know. No, they're fine. They've got they've got
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  their iPads and they're getting some screen time. They're great. They're oh,
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  go ahead, they're getting some screen time. I love it. Yeah,
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  right, How were you, buddy. I'm doing well. I just got
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  back from a two week tour. Yeah, out and about we wanted to
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  go. Started down in Florida and made our way up to New York and
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  it was it was good man. Um made it a little more eventful by
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  having the bus breakdown, like you, But that was not the highlight of
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  the trip. From what I understand, the highlight may have included, uh,
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  mister Matarante and oh yes, yes, yes, so we both got
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  to witness this. You probably saw it multiple but I was playing us every
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  time. Um. Yeah. At Sammy and Chance's wedding, Sammy's dad,
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  Rick has a choreographed dance to party in the USA, and we got back
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  Sammy and Chances like wedding video and there I apparently was right on the other
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  side of Rick when he was filming, and you could just see my face
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  just like my mouth was wide open, could not believe what I was seeing.
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  I was so happy when it was happening. I was like, Rob's
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  gonna love this. Yeah, so that was hilarious. And he when we
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  were in Connecticut at the wolves Den, which we've talked about a few times,
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  one of the stranger venues that we played. But it's always fun.
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  Yeah. Yeah. He went up and did his party in the USA dance
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  and it got on the screen and it was amazing. It made the show
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  God so funny. Yeah, and he just like he was born for that
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  moment. Like there was no hesitation. I'm sure he was. No one
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  had to talk him into it, you don't know, just no. Tim
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  mentioned it and he sprung up and he was go time. Yeah, that
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  was great. It was fun. I love that, man, that's so
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  fun. It was pretty great. Yeah. Man. But now I get
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  a little bit of time off and we can do some of these pods and
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  I love it. Well, have you been watching any fun movies lately?
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  I watched a movie on my way home yesterday on the plane. Yeah.
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  I watched a movie that I know you saw, called The Way Back with
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  Ben Affleck. Oh yeah, what a fun film. I bet you liked
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  fun. It is definitely not the word I would use for that. Well,
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  it was pretty intense, good though well done. It was good.
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  Yeah. Yeah, um, but fun would be the role but a while
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  since I saw it to be fair. Yeah, Ben Affleck was great in
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  it. He plays an alcoholic who is going through a lot of stuffy and
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  coaches a basketball team. He used to be like a basketball star back in
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  the day, and he goes and coaches his old high school basketball team,
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  and um, yeah, there were just some really really heavy, heavy,
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  heavy moments in that movie. And whenever there's like stuff dealing with kids,
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  they were like sick kids in this movie. And that hits me so much
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  harder now I forget that. Yeah, yeah, it's like sick with me.
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  I mean not that I'm like a heartless bastard, but you know what
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  I mean, like it's like a trigger thing for me. I'm just thinking
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  about it, just like, oh, it just makes me feel sick.
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  But really really impressive performance from Ben Affleck. I really enjoyed his performance,
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  and I mean it was a pretty great story too. Yeah, and it's
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  currently on Prime if you're wanting to stream. It was on HBO for a
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  long time. Yeah, now it's on Prime. Cool man love that.
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  Yeah, fine, what was honest movie you watched? So I went to
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  the theater with the boys the other night and we saw c Sue. How
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  crazy was that? It looked insane, very crazy, very beautifully shot.
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  Um, I would say, now this sounds weird because it is very violent,
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  but violent than I thought. Does that sense like had a little bit
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  more substance than I thought it might maybe is another way of saying it.
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  But it was really fun. It's all about an ex soldier who like he
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  is basically just mining gold. He leaves the war and you learn all this
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  in like the first ten seconds. But he's like leaves the war. It's
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  during World War two and he's finished, um, not finished because he has
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  a lot left to do, but he's finished, right um. And he
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  discovers gold and then comes across some Nazi soldiers and chaos ensues from there,
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  and it's it's, you know, not believable, but very entertaining, and
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  some really cool stuff happens in it. I really liked it. I thought
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  it was fun, and I think he will you'll you'll like it as well.
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  For sure. The preview, I mean, I knew it was going
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  to be super violent. At one point, he shoves a knife into a
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  man's fall, so I was like, this is very violent. It's kind
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  of John Wicki in a lot of ways. And then also Tarantino E in
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  like the way that the violence is. I would say, okay, it's
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  that's that's sort of like dialed up to one hundred violence where like you know,
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  people's heads or limbs might fall off, and craziness, so which I
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  actually think makes it easier to watch for some reason, because it's a little
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  over the top. I agree. Yeah, it feels like fake, there's
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  something so yeah. But yeah, I really liked it, and uh yeah
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  it's it's I didn't. I don't think I recognized anyone in it really because
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  it is finish. But Jorma Tamila, I think, is how you would
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  say his name, the lead actor. He's really great and very compelling in
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  it. Everyone's really good. So it's fun. Man. I would definitely
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  check it out sometime. I think it would be a nice Uh maybe you
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  want a bigger screen than a plane movie, but it might be good for
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  a plane movie, they're gonna say. I feel like it would be a
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  nice little date night. No, no, no, I don't think Kelsey
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  would care for No, I wouldn't do that. Or no no, if
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  you're dating a psychopath, maybe they would love it. I don't know,
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  not here to judge people. And they were weird likes no, you know,
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  but yeah, it was fun. I had a nice time good.
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  Yeah, have you been streaming things? Yes? I just yesterday finished the
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  Mandalorian season three. Oh cool, nice man, finally finished it. It
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  was good. I felt like it was a little campier in a few episodes
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  that I've ever seen that. They definitely had a lot of guest actors that
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  were like what, um, Yeah, some of it was cool and some
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  of it was not as cool. Um, but yeah, really really fun
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  stuff going on there. Um. I enjoyed how they ended it. Yeah,
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  I love that really fun. That was cool. And man, Pedro
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  Pescality just he isn't missing. He's so good, dude. It's really in
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  like a very high point right now for sure. I just saw that he
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  got cast. Apparently Ridley Scott is making a Gladiator too too. I mean,
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  he's he just got I am that is concerning. I don't think that's
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  a great plan, but okah, we'll see. Yeah. I mean maybe
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  it's not really connected somehow, right, because it's not I don't I don't
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  know. Yeah, maybe he's got a great idea. I can't think of
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  what it would be right off the top of my head, but it could
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  be awesome. So well, now that he got Petre Pascal and it.
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  It's it's got more of a chance to be awesome. That's true. Although
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  we all remember Wonder Woman nineteen eighty four. Yeah, that was brutal.
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  A Mandalorian's great. It's on Disney Plus, Yeah, it's really fun.
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  Actually, I'm gonna scratch what I was going to talk about. I'll just
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  talk about that too. I really liked it. I thought it was really
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  fun. I'm with you. It was a bit campier. And I just
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  be like, they're kind of I really like the story they're telling, but
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  like the overarching story, I feel like they're still kind of finding it a
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  little bit. Like they're really good at these individual episodes, but tying it
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  all together just seems a little wonky still. And maybe that'll make sense,
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  you know, after they kind of get farther. Maybe they can't do it
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  without kind of ruining what the tell is going to be for later something,
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  who knows. But But as far as like, I love Grogu, I
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  love you know, Paper Pascal, like all all these things are just amazing.
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  Um Grog was particularly, he's so cute and that you know, the
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  bit, the like comedic bit that they do when he gets the buttons.
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  I was I loved that so much. I thought was so great. I
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  loved it. Yeah, it was super, super fun. I can't wait
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  to watch more. I think they're really enjoyable and and yeah, I just
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  I like them a lot. And I think it's funny because in a chat
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  with like a Neil and Chance, I said, I really liked those uh
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  two particular cameos that they had, and they were like, not not super
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  into it. I'm there and I was like, well, this is where
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  being a casual fan is helpful, because I was like, I see,
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  but also I just liked it. It was fun. Yeah, I'm casual
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  too, and I was like, I don't know. There was one of
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  them. There was actually three in that episode, and I liked one of
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  them. I can't remember the third. Well, we can talk about that
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  later. Were to Spoiley for all these no no, no spoilers, but
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  I think we should do a few plugarnos. I think we should as well.
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  Flora as you guys are wonderful, thanks for being patrons. And another perk
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  we like to give our patrons is an extended version of every episode that we
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  put out. And we like to do a top five draft that pertains to
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  the movie we're talking about, and for this one, Abuse came up with
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  a fun one, the top five best last lines of a film draft.
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  Yeah, I think it'll be fun. It'll be very fun. We're going
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  to say the name of the movie before we say it so that it isn't
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  a horrible spoilers fair, But most of these I'm pretty sure y'all have seen,
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  but mine are pretty classic. Yeah, i'd say too. Yeah,
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  but there's there's a lot of good ones. It's fun. It's I'm already
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  a little worried that they're not the last line, like it's like second to
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  last. But sure, it was a bit if it wasn't on like an
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  already a list that like the fifty best last lines. Um, it was.
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  It was tough to research, I know. I was just like,
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  I want to just trust myself a little bit on some of these. It's
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  all funny games, I guess for surely. But yeah, it should be
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  a great time. Uh. And speaking of great times, we have the
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  final one of these Lord of the Rings movies here. We're here to celebrate
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  the Return of the King, which is actually having its twentieth anniversary. Yeah,
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  dang crazy. Uh. And we I know it's Return of the King,
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  but we had to get our own, our own queen here with us.
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  She is dark and powerful as the sun. Wait, what is her
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  quote? I forget? You know, Galadriel. She's our Galadriel. She's
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  got the light of the even star inside of her. Um. She's lovely
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  you guys all over. Oh, let's give it up for Jennica Fouls.
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  What's up, Jennica? Hi? How are you doing so well? Thank
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  you for having me, Oh, thank you for being here. So excited
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  to have you back on. And I'm so excited to watch you guys heard
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  out over this movie. Oh it's gonna be nerdy. We're about to get
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  nerdy. I've been really well. I um, I've been wrapping up grad
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  school, so I've just started seeing real therapy clients. Let's start of last
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  month and just amazing fucking away. Yeah. I love it. Our girls
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  wicked smart Rob, She's wicked smart, wicked smart. I love that.
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  That's so great. How are you guys coming? Uh? So good?
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  Very well? Rob, how are you? I'm great. I'm home for
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  like three weeks. Will you know this because Tim's going to be home for
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  a while. It's exciting, it's very exciting. Yeah. We've been getting
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  a lot of big chunks at home this year so far, it's been really
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  nice. Yeah nice. I'm enjoying that. Just three I have three weeks
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  to get to Nashville. Now, let's do it, yes, do it.
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  Yeah. But anyway, like I said before, we're here to talk
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  about the Return of the King. Yes, and Rob, why don't you
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  get it started with a rough synopsis, okay, the culmination of nearly ten
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  years work and conclusion to Peter Jackson's epic trilogy based on the timeless JRR.
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  Tolkien classic The Lord of the Rings. The Return of the King presents the
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  final confrontation between the forces of good and evil fighting for control of the future
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  of Middle Earth. Hobbit, Frodo, and Sam reach Mordor in their quest
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  to destroy the One Ring, while Aragorn leads the forces of Good against Saron's
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  evil army at the Stone city of Minas Tiriff. Yeah. I got so
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  nervous about saying that last one. I really screwed up the future of Middle
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  Earth. But we got through it. You did great. But it has
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  a fantastic read. It was longer than the rest of them, It's sure.
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  What was that accent that you were throwing in? I like to just
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  throw in random things from time to time. I don't know the character find
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  him for the most part, which I can. Really I appreciate that process.
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  Yes, very natural, Yes, I love it. Let's go to
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  Rotten Tomatoes and hear what they have to say. Critics have this coming in
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  at a pretty rock solid ninety three, pretty good audience members. I'm a
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  little mad at because they have it at eighty six, which I don't get.
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  That is weird. I hate it. Yeah, I think that's the
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  lowest of the three for the audiences. I think it is too it.
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  I don't understand why that would be the case. Really like either, Well,
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  we can get into it. Perhaps we should right now in our hot
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  take. Oh, hot take, spicy, that's a hot take. That's
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  a hot take. Guys. Every time I come on, the hot take
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  just gets even more. At some point that'll be the whole podcast. Welcome
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  to Robbing Bugs fully hour, where we do man walking on Coals. I
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  love this movie. I don't know what to say about it. It's fantastic.
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  It is, like we said, the culmination of all these great stories.
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  I've said it before, I've gushed. I think enough about these It's
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  my favorite story ever, and I think let's just start with my hottest take
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  right away. Yes, I think this is my favorite movie of all time.
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  I was just like, I don't know, does it ever get better?
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  There's so much included in this movie that is so epic and so fun.
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  The only thing that stops me from saying it's my favorite of all time
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  is like would it be without those other movies? So like, how do
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  you, you know, like take them apart from each other, you know?
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  But I love this movie a ton, And it's a little foreshadowing.
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  The boo hoo's is a problem. I'm not even gonna guess. You're just
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  gonna have to tell us, Yeah, yeah, you shouldn't. It's it's
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  I'm gonna have to make it a point. I know it's not ethical for
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  me to see Jenica, so I'm gonna have to get a suggestion from her
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  about someone else to talk to, because it's a lot, guys, it's
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  a it's a problem. But I really love this movie. I love the
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  extended cut of it a ton. I think it culminates the story in such
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  a beautiful way. I find it interesting that So I just reread the books
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  again Jennica before we started this, and you know, in the books they
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  go back to the Shire and there's a whole section after everything else has happened
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  where we sort of see like kind of the whole thing, right, is
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  similar to to Tolkien himself coming back after the war and seeing his friends come
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  back after the war and noticing the world has changed around them and they've changed
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  in the world as well, and I think that's really beautiful and great.
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  And they don't do hard, hardly any of that in this movie at all,
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  and I still love it. I think it's still like a perfect adaptation.
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  I just I totally get how people want to see that, but I
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  don't know how you do that without another like our plus of a movie,
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  and they couldn't do that obviously, And I just think the way they did
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  it still was so beautiful and culminated everything in such a beautiful way. I
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  just super super into this movie. I love it a lot. I'd like
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  it to be stated for the record that when they're standing at the Black Gates
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  and they are against insurmountable odds and charge Saron's forces, it is the Hobbits
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  that are directly behind the King of Gondor, and that is the coolest thing
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  ever. I love that they have this power and you know, you see
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  their courage, right. I just love all that stuff a ton, and
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  I just think, yeah, just as a culmination, it's it's so great
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  and it's so great to see these people can come back from this terrible thing,
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  and not everyone is the same. Sometimes that's okay, Sometimes that's tough.
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  But you move forward and life keeps going forward and it doesn't change.
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  It doesn't change anything about them inherently, other than they may have some extra
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  stuff to deal with. And I think that's really beautiful at the bottom line.
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  And I just I love this movie to death. So yeah, I
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  think I'm gonna say this for my favorite movie of all time. Now,
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  favorite movie of all time. That's a hot take, buddy, that's the
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  hottest disturb it right here there. It is. M I feel silly following
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  that, but I thought this movie was really good. I was like,
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  it's fine. I did see it was number seven on IMDb Top two fifty.
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  Crazy, Um, so yeah, I think it goes. The First
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  Fellowship was nine, Two Towers was thirteen, and this is seven. Yeah,
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  so it's you got three in the top fifteen. That's that's why pretty
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  beloved franchise as wild. Yeah. This one eleven Oscars. It won Best
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  Visual Effects, Original Song, Original Score, Makeup, Costume Design, Art
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  Direction, Editing, adapted Screenplay, Director, and Best Picture. Believe.
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  It went eleven for eleven. It's the most like perfect you know if how
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  am I trying to say that? Yeah, it's the most nominated that also
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  won. Yeah that is crazy. Yeah, so but I did find it
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  strange to have won all those awards and not have one nomination for a supporting
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  actor. Yeah, yeah, that's kind of bizarre. I wonder if they
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  were just like, we don't want to make anyone sad by not nominating them,
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  so we're just not going to do it. I don't know, but
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  the acting studio maybe sure, But I mean I feel like all these folks
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  were tremendous and could we could have had some supporting actors for sure? Right?
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  But yeah, the story of course is incredible. The music is so
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  impressive and adds so much to the film. But I will yield my time
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  for the super fans again. However, my hot take, Oh, I
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  do feel like Peter Jackson did not have to have so many close up shots
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  of Elijah Wood reacting to things. It was all the time, and it's
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  like half the movie. I feel like if there there could be like a
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  fun drinking game where you take a shot every time there's a close up of
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  Frodo not speaking. People are gonna die, Rob, you can't do the
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  movie so long, though I don't think that people will too. Yeah,
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  you can probably chill out a little while, but sure you have a nice
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  bass of lamb. Yes, well yeah, spread very very nice. I
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  really do that. But it's just so many just in just in bewilderment and
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  just big beautiful eyes like you gotta show he really did. But that's fantastic.
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  I love it, Jannica tell us everything. I love this film.
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  It is so near and dear to my heart. It struck me at a
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  very critical time of development. It's like a movie. I mean, I
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  feel like I intro The Departed podcast with this as well, but this is
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  a little earlier than that, a little more benign. But it's like all
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  these like super dreamy men in like cool costumes, and the music was beautiful,
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  and it just like, I mean, I have such a connection to
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  this film because also like it was like my intro to like films that weren't
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  Disney like scary stuff. Just it hit like it struck a chord in my
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  sixth grade heart. And then like I know, I'm sorry, I try,
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  but like I and like my cat had kittens that year and I named
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  them like all, like I had like a kitten named Saramon, and like
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  everything was Lord of the Rings everything. I was like one of those weird
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  kids. And I also was homeschooled for those couple of years, so like
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  I was like really had a lot of time to dig into Lord of the
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  Rings. So M also like a very Christianity based, right, so like
• 24:26
  yeah, it's an easy way to like expand your personal you know, like
• 24:32
  in a safe way and totally yeah, total gateway drug to secular films.
• 24:38
  This supposedly allegorical series. Yeah it was, like so anyway, it was
• 24:45
  a total gateway drug to Harry Potter too, which you know, so really,
• 24:52
  Return of the King walked so that the departed could run. I love
• 24:56
  this film. There's so many crime moments. It just is so uplifting.
• 25:00
  It makes me want to go like fight things with swords, Like it hops
• 25:07
  me up, Like I'm not a bio person, but I want to.
• 25:08
  I want to bash the foreheads. And like the music and even the graphics,
• 25:18
  like you know, there are some that are kind of like now you're
• 25:21
  like, wow, that's really fake, but like a lot of the graphics
• 25:22
  to really hold up, like it's pretty They really do really impressive. For
• 25:26
  the most part, it looks pretty great. King of Nascals Dragon he rides
• 25:33
  are very incredible. So yeah, I just I try and do like a
• 25:37
  Lord of the Rings extended rewatch about every year, and every year you do
• 25:44
  it, I love it. Once a year I'll just do, like,
• 25:47
  you know, in a weekend or a few weekends, I'll do a rewatch.
• 25:51
  Um. One time I did a marathon. It was haven't done the
• 25:55
  day. Not to make myself sound really young again, but it was the
• 26:00
  day I got my braces on. I had a Lord of the Rings watch
• 26:03
  party and we did three extended edition DVDs. I had all my little girlfriends
• 26:10
  over after dance one night and we just like went all in on the gob
• 26:12
  stoppers and the candy and like everything I wasn't supposed to have with braces.
• 26:18
  But it took like fourteen hours total, I think, and at the end
• 26:22
  you were like, it's over, Yeah, cast into the that's awesome.
• 26:33
  I just feel such a connection to this film and it's so beautiful um and
• 26:38
  so well done. And some of the lines are really cheesy, but that's
• 26:42
  like a part of this is like the cheese is a part of agreed of
• 26:48
  what makes this like heartwarming and special And you know, I don't know.
• 26:52
  That's my take, and it's hard. It's a film about hobbits, right
• 26:56
  of course it has cheese involved. I mean these guys. I don't know
• 27:00
  about y'all. But whenever I watched this movie, or like any movies like
• 27:04
  this, I just want like mead and ale and like seas and bread and
• 27:10
  yeah, eat like a turkey leg off the bone. When we started this,
• 27:18
  I roasted a turkey, bought a frozen pizza, and had a CHARCOUTERI
• 27:22
  board in like two days and it was I was really living my best in
• 27:29
  one bite. Absolutely. I just I swallowed the bone entirely. It was
• 27:34
  just all, oh, that's kind of a gross thing to say. Okay,
• 27:37
  let's move on. I'm gonna edit it in twice. Okay, uh,
• 27:45
  well, that is a hot take. I love that. That was
• 27:48
  the end of it, right before I got all weird. That I also
• 27:51
  have for the Adam Chance fans. I have a Adam Chance present that hangs
• 27:56
  in my office. He surprised me with this in Europe. I think it's
• 28:03
  on the Home Free behind the scenes video where I was like, this is
• 28:06
  the greatest ring I've ever received from a man. Pressure him was like,
• 28:11
  yeah, for the people listening, it's it's the ring in a necklace.
• 28:17
  You're good. It looks very beautiful. That's cool. I need I probably
• 28:22
  need something like that. I'm gonna go shopping. Yeah, I'm gonna make
• 28:25
  that happen. Or I'll tell Adam chance and we can all match with our
• 28:29
  wonder Well, that's fun. That's a fun idea friendship rings. We can
• 28:33
  be a fellowship evil ring in the world. But you know, it's okay,
• 28:37
  it's effects Emily, it's fine. I love that. That is a
• 28:41
  hot take. Hot take takes hot. Let's move on to talk about our
• 28:47
  favorite acting performance. Let's name the dude. I'm the dude, so that's
• 28:52
  what you call me, you know that, or his dudes or dud or
• 28:59
  you know, Lddino. If you're not into the whole brevity thing, Jennka,
• 29:03
  why don't you the first's who's your d Oh? This is so hard
• 29:06
  to choose. Okay, I know I'm going to choose Ian McCallan of that
• 29:15
  kind of Yeah, that's certainly not a wrong answer. No, I don't
• 29:18
  think these things to be honest, we could just pick a name out of
• 29:22
  a hat and they'd all be good. That's mine out of his giant wizard
• 29:27
  hat. I love that he's really great in this and also is like powerless
• 29:33
  a little bit in a way we haven't seen. Yeah, there's a vulnerability
• 29:37
  doing Yeah. I love that. That's really fun. I know. I
• 29:41
  think this movie is so like this film introduces I think, like it speaks
• 29:47
  to what you were saying at the beginning when your hot take, Like it
• 29:49
  speaks to just the human experience and like like it speaks of like how trauma
• 29:55
  affects people, and it speaks to how like being vulnerable and courage in the
• 30:00
  face of fear, and like all these really raw real themes in and power
• 30:07
  corruption thereof right yeah, right yeah, and hope and giving up hope and
• 30:12
  and gandolf I think like has this hopefulness in the face of the most hopeless
• 30:19
  situation, even though he is pretty powerless against Saron, Like his ultimate power
• 30:26
  is the hope that he delivers. And I I can't think of anybody else
• 30:30
  that could play him better. Yeah. Apparently didn't we hear that Sean Connery
• 30:37
  was offered like a bunch of money and he turned it dead. I'm so
• 30:41
  glad. Yeah, that one, it wouldn't have worked. I don't think
• 30:45
  we also heard, didn't we hear? His buddy, the Captain Picard Patrick
• 30:52
  Stewart. Patrick Stewart was offered that was like that probably could have worked in
• 30:57
  a different way. Yeah, but he was so great. I hear you.
• 31:03
  Yeah, and just like Ian Frodo's like cute little winks and like,
• 31:07
  you know, just like, okay, okay, you're good. Pick I
• 31:15
  just I had picked Ian mcellen for I Think the Fellowships, so this time
• 31:22
  I am picking Sean aston Is Sam ways Gage. How can you not love
• 31:27
  his performance in these films? You wanted to just like shake Frodo and be
• 31:34
  like, dude, Sam has always had your back. How can you not
• 31:40
  see that you're gonna trust this super shady, mentally unbalanced creature over your buddy
• 31:45
  who seems like possibly the most honorable, trustworthy, loyal person in the world.
• 31:52
  I know, so um Yeah, he broke my heart a few times
• 31:57
  and he got me hyped up up more than anyone in this film, So
• 32:00
  he'll he'll win it for me. I love that. I'm going to cop
• 32:06
  out a little bit because I picked Sam for Fellowship as well, so and
• 32:12
  I kind of a little bit planned it out at the beginning, to be
• 32:15
  honest. Uh, Jennet, I don't know if we've ever talked about it,
• 32:17
  but I've talked about Sam is I think my favorite character in all of
• 32:22
  fiction as well, um, because he's just amazing. Yeah, yeah,
• 32:27
  so, but yeah, I'm gonna pick Elijah Wood for this one, um,
• 32:31
  particularly because of all the close up shots of his reaction. There were
• 32:37
  a lot when she looked stabbed him with her stinger. I mean that's straight
• 32:43
  up close up you got, yeah, ste here's some trivia on that.
• 32:47
  He had Elka Seltzer tabs under his teeth or under his tongue, and then
• 32:52
  he did him when he got hit, and that's why the like, so
• 32:55
  that was a practical effect, which is neat. That was really fun to
• 32:59
  be like eating and drinking and then watch that so many spiders. But yeah,
• 33:07
  I just think he does such a great job, like his metamorphosis through
• 33:13
  all these films, Like he is a super strong character obviously, but also
• 33:21
  becomes ultimately, at least to a small degree, corrupted by the ring.
• 33:25
  And I just think that's so great and in this movie, you know,
• 33:30
  he's gotta like he's just really struggling, and I think that's fantastic and hard
• 33:35
  to portray. So this is this is kind of a culmination of all three
• 33:37
  films. Pick a little bit, but I just think he's just wonderful.
• 33:42
  Yeah, so good. And when the ring is gone and he's not like
• 33:47
  totally free, but he is more than we've seen him, you know,
• 33:52
  in so long, Like that's such a beautiful moment and you can see.
• 33:55
  I feel like he did such a good job showing that weight being lifted but
• 33:59
  not completely. I loved I loved his performance. So it was awesome.
• 34:04
  He was great. Yeah, should we talk about some of the other folks
• 34:07
  as well. Yeah, let's do some of the supporting cast. Let's pick
• 34:10
  our two wards who we got for this one. Jennico, This was really
• 34:17
  also very difficult. I thought about Elijah Wood because I just I was supposed
• 34:22
  to marry him. I don't know if I ever told you that, didn't
• 34:25
  hear that one? And like I wasn't Also like it wasn't okay to be
• 34:30
  like into boys, you know, like in that you know, growing up
• 34:35
  really conservatively, so I had to like keep that crush, like a mega
• 34:38
  secret but he was like all of my hot mail passwords and stuff and like
• 34:43
  yeah, or like my name with his last name and yeah, like my
• 34:47
  MSN instant Messenger password. Oh yeah. And like then there was a Nickelodeon
• 34:52
  Kid's Choice Awards one year where he was hosting, and they had like a
• 34:55
  sweepstakes you could enter once a day online, and I would think every day
• 35:00
  and I was like, God, if you exist, you will send me
• 35:02
  to the sweepstakes and I will meet him and marry him and like totally not
• 35:07
  considering the age difference or anything like that, but um, it's a glimpse
• 35:12
  of my preteen self. So didn't pick elage Wood. Actually I had it
• 35:16
  tied between Billy Boyd or John Raise Davies. Nice love that both are so
• 35:22
  cool, well because Vigo was tied for main actor with Y, but I
• 35:29
  thought like those like Billy Boyd was hilarious and really like his acting was really
• 35:34
  good. Yeah, and like when he was like you know, like he's
• 35:37
  not dead, He's not dead, like that whole scene. And then John
• 35:42
  Raised Davies is like the best comedic relief, yeah, which I think is
• 35:51
  really fun. His physical comedy and like just the way his facial expression,
• 35:54
  like I thought in the delivery, so I don't know I was tied between
• 35:59
  us two. That's fantastic. Yeah for sure, Um, I will take
• 36:07
  vego and I'm gonna give it to him for that speech he makes before that
• 36:13
  fight at the Black Gate. That was that hyped me up speech was incredible.
• 36:22
  Yeah, it's so awesome in this. I also love that in the
• 36:27
  Extended U. In the Extended Edition they show him kind of healing a few
• 36:31
  people, um, because it's sort of talked about like he helps heal Frodo
• 36:36
  at the beginning and stuff. But as like the a man of Newman or
• 36:42
  you know, a descendant of Newman, he actually has like a yeah,
• 36:45
  he actually has like a legitimate healing powers in the books. And I just
• 36:51
  thought that was kind of a neat you know, they like sprinkled it in
• 36:53
  for people that cared but didn't like hit out anyone over the head with it,
• 36:57
  which I liked. I thought that was a fun way of doing that
• 37:00
  with you. Yeah, he was great. What do you got killing it?
• 37:05
  Um? So here's the thing I should have looked up his name.
• 37:09
  Sorry, the guy who plays Danna Thorpe what's his name, John Noble,
• 37:14
  John Noble. He sucks so bad, but that again means that he's lovely,
• 37:19
  right. He does such a good job in this movie. I really
• 37:23
  liked his um. Watching him eat is one of the grossest things I've ever
• 37:30
  seen in the filmy like that that doesn't usually like bug me. I know
• 37:39
  there's people our friend Kate has that where like just the sound of like people
• 37:45
  eating or whatever doesn't, but they like really focus on it, and it
• 37:50
  grossed me out, Like now I get it. It's it was really yucky.
• 37:55
  Also, he's not eating like a gentleman, I mean, and like
• 38:00
  cracking open you know, the back of like a chicken like you're doing,
• 38:04
  sir. This is gross. Yeah, that was smart. It was smart.
• 38:09
  It makes him very unlikable, which is good. Yeah, And just
• 38:15
  like being super self indulgent in wartime like that makes you kind of eating even
• 38:19
  further. He's like eating this meal while his son's out on the battlefield.
• 38:24
  I just I thought he was great. Shout out to Miranda Oh yeah,
• 38:30
  John Noble, John Noble, Okay, yeah, so good. Shout out
• 38:36
  to Miranda Otto Aowen. I thought she was great to message. She gets
• 38:40
  like a real time to shine in totally in a movie where there's not a
• 38:45
  lot of ladies that get to shine a lot. Yeah, that's tough.
• 38:50
  That is one of the tougher parts of these but what can he do?
• 38:54
  Um? But yeah, it's she's so great. Have you ever seen seen
• 38:59
  those videos? Like it was totally like TikTok's where it was like all of
• 39:04
  the scenes where women are in Lord of the Rings compilation and then it's like,
• 39:09
  you know, a lot of them were like joke jokingly where it's like
• 39:13
  little like short thing, but like one of them actually did a real compilation
• 39:16
  of it and it was like so short, it's like women and some human
• 39:27
  women. Yeah, that's what it was. That's what it was where female
• 39:30
  characters talk to each other and it was like two it was like awen telling
• 39:32
  me because all to ride the horse and then the baby? Is that the
• 39:36
  Beckdail test that they say, there's some tests that they do where they're like,
• 39:42
  is a lady in a movie? And do they talk to each other
• 39:45
  about anything other than just what men are like the men in the movie or
• 39:50
  whatever, which I think is really interesting. Yeah, Beckdeil test, but
• 39:52
  yeah, test lady parts and the thun but the lady rolls thank you well
• 40:01
  the other way as well, technically that is true. Oh but yeah,
• 40:06
  um, she's great though in what she gets. She's amazing. Yeah,
• 40:10
  and I love that the extended played up her in Fairmere Falling in Love a
• 40:15
  little bit more too, because it's such a beautiful part of the book though,
• 40:20
  Rob I get it. I totally get it, a little like,
• 40:22
  oh, I can't be where they are going, Hey, Faremre, what's
• 40:25
  up totally in the book. Let's do a little bit better of a job?
• 40:30
  Yeah, wildly different. Yeah, I mean he was probably the fall
• 40:34
  back or you know, yeah, runner up but consolation Faremere, but he
• 40:38
  used to it though he was born Mere's brother. He used playing b He
• 40:43
  just happy somebody. Oh yeah lovely lovely. Um, but yeah, anyone
• 40:52
  else have any runner up? I was gonna say Orlando Bloom just for taking
• 40:54
  down that that Olifant. Yeah that thing was that was such a bad yes,
• 41:02
  yeah good. Also Bernard Hill, I mean just killing it. He
• 41:08
  was so Hayden King, he's lovely, love him. He's not spoiler alert
• 41:17
  around for a long time, but he does a great job again he yeah,
• 41:22
  tough, tough run for Theoden tough run. I this is this happened
• 41:28
  in the Two Towers. But while he was having that really beautiful moment,
• 41:32
  that monologue with his who was he talking to somebody, but about how like
• 41:40
  a father should never have to bury a child. Yeah, oh yes,
• 41:45
  yeah, I was brutal in the back of the theater, like the way
• 41:47
  back, because I got in right as the movie starting and just was opening
• 41:51
  my gobstoppers in the whole box flew everywhere, gob stoppers down all just during
• 42:00
  that tender scene, a noise like there have done very few times in my
• 42:05
  life where I legitimately would be like I could disappear now, like and that
• 42:09
  was one of them, Like I would elect to disappear from this planet forever.
• 42:14
  Now. What was the one that you had? Were like the I'm
• 42:19
  sorry, that's not a nice thing. We've talked about it before. Yes,
• 42:22
  I was in college and went to broke Back Mountain and decided to bring
• 42:30
  a bottle of Southern Comfort with one of my buddies, and during a very
• 42:37
  tender part, it rolled down. You just heard it rolling. Yep.
• 42:52
  I just love that. It was broke Back that's I love that. Yeah,
• 42:57
  what a lovely thing. I take us anywhere. No any other runners
• 43:06
  up, I mean other than everyone. I mean yeah, I love them
• 43:09
  all. They're all great. It's hard for me. Well, let's let's
• 43:13
  just move forward. Then, should we pick our favorite scene? Yeah?
• 43:15
  Time to name is quite simple, really, dass. I can talk about
• 43:22
  my dingas all night long. Jennica, what do you have for your favorite
• 43:25
  scene? Very I think um the final battle when Aowen rips off her helmet
• 43:34
  and it's like, you know, nice, nice, yeah, just I
• 43:38
  love that in a movie with very little girl power. Unless these works are
• 43:43
  women and we just don't know it. There's it's true, right possible.
• 43:47
  I love that scene. It's so empowering and so awesome and like super badass
• 43:52
  and and you're also just like feeling all the adrenaline from the whole freaking battle
• 44:00
  and yeah, yeah, yeah, I love That's a great, great pick,
• 44:04
  super great pick Um. I am gonna pick Sam carrying Frodo to the
• 44:10
  top during that that scene. Man, that got me hyped up too for
• 44:17
  me. Yeah, yeah, that's so big time. I had all the
• 44:22
  goose bumps. It was good. That doesn't yeah for sure? Yeah big
• 44:30
  in Midwestern. Well, I'll just carry you shoot, yeah, it's not
• 44:37
  really men. No, no, I don't know where we're going. Oh
• 44:38
  you've never been in my hometown, very southern up there. Oh that's true.
• 44:45
  I'll bring you up. We have the Canada. Not my greatest moment,
• 44:57
  it's okay, it's okay. Uh. Honestly, I picked that whole
• 45:01
  Battle of Minas Tire as well. I just think it's so great. Yeah.
• 45:07
  Um, there's so much that happens. Yeah, I mean, I
• 45:13
  mean it's also kind of not fair because that's probably like forty five minutes of
• 45:15
  the movie. It's a lot, but we did all of Helm's deep I
• 45:20
  think. For yeah, that's true, and that's like, yeah, yeah,
• 45:25
  we're fast and loose with the rules here for sure. Um. Just
• 45:30
  to name some other ones, I love the slab and Frodo stuff I think
• 45:36
  is so cool and scary and awful. Giant spiders, Yeah, so quiet,
• 45:43
  so weird, freaky design. It's even weirder in the book too,
• 45:49
  because Sam actually puts the ring on in the book, like he he takes
• 45:52
  it off his body and puts it on, and we never find out she
• 45:58
  loves like dead or not. But it's like he has superhero when he has
• 46:02
  the ring on and he can hear gurgling from It's just like the grossest way
• 46:07
  to say it. It's yucky. Um Yeah, but yeah I love that.
• 46:15
  Um. And then I mean the whole like inside of the mountain,
• 46:22
  you know, is like amazing when he can't cast the ring in and then
• 46:27
  Gollum comes in and does his thing, and you know, fulfills Gollum's destiny
• 46:31
  of like he was saved because he was gonna kind of save Frodo not he
• 46:38
  didn't intend to, but he did, you know, and all these things
• 46:40
  like I just think that's really cool. I love that part two. Yeah,
• 46:46
  some sick music, his cosmic role, yeah for sure. And he's
• 46:52
  I did a little bit of a deep dive on Golm. He's like nearly
• 46:55
  five hundred years old at this point, like the ring has kept him alive
• 47:00
  for a long He looks like a tough looks tough. I would say,
• 47:08
  not a day over four fifty. It looks pretty tough, but like fair,
• 47:14
  you know. Yeah, but yeah, I'll love that. Yeah.
• 47:20
  Other ones I had were Aergorn speech before the battle at the Black Gate.
• 47:22
  Again, that was so awesome, so great, um and Ergorn bowing to
• 47:29
  the four Hobbits at the end, Bro that scene is a problem is great,
• 47:37
  Wolf a lot of tears that that is beautiful. Also, I've always
• 47:44
  really liked a scene that gets me super hip hype is the the beacons all
• 47:50
  being lit and then yes, sure strings the string section on that, yes,
• 47:58
  really empowering, like so cool. Yeah that's a good call. I
• 48:05
  mean other than the joggling, I mean yes, it's uh yeah, I
• 48:10
  love that whole thing. And then like we have what is one of my
• 48:15
  favorite lines there when he did like the Gondor calls for aid and all that
• 48:19
  stuff. So great. Yeah, it's just like let's go. And then
• 48:25
  they have to ride on their horses for like six or seven weeks. In
• 48:30
  the book, you get a little bit better sense of how long everything is,
• 48:35
  just like much grander. It's kind of like, uh, you know,
• 48:39
  like, uh what am I thinking? Martin? George R. Martin,
• 48:44
  Um, yeah, Like in the books, all of those things are
• 48:47
  just like thousands of miles apart and stuff. And then like the show,
• 48:53
  it was like, well they were there, don't worry about it down to
• 48:57
  King's landing. Yeah it's cool, don't. Books are so many songs and
• 49:05
  poems so many songs, and I last year I listened to it on audible
• 49:10
  nice, thinking that indy circus ones. No, I should do that these
• 49:16
  times? There really oh good. The ones I was listening to sound pretty
• 49:22
  old. But the man who reads them adds his own melodies and sometimes recycles
• 49:27
  melodies. It's very funny. Um. Yeah, it's fun and cute.
• 49:32
  But sometimes I'm like, okay, enough with the song, let's move it
• 49:37
  along. Like Argon, I appreciate you and your creativity, but let's move
• 49:44
  it along. How I feel something all Bilbo does in his retirement in the
• 49:52
  book, it's just right. He writes songs with the old songs, smokes
• 49:55
  hashiation, writes songs I don't want to be retired of it. That sounds
• 50:00
  really nice. Yeah, I'm in for sure. That's great. Any other
• 50:06
  scenes we feel like we have to mention, I'm sure we'll get to a
• 50:08
  few of them in the quotes as well. Probably, I think we can
• 50:12
  go to the quotes, all right, I let's go to the You know
• 50:15
  what I really like that's kind of understated, I feel like is the scene
• 50:20
  where Frodo, Nope, Pippin and Gandalf are sitting together and he says like
• 50:25
  it's the deep breath before the plunge. Yeah, And it's like so because
• 50:32
  we've all felt that in our lives before. We've all felt that anticipation of
• 50:37
  like it's about to go down or we don't know what happened, or just
• 50:42
  like the anxiety felt palpable. And it was amazing how Peter Jackson and the
• 50:46
  actors and the music and the lighting and everything was able. Like you could
• 50:50
  almost like feel the wind when you're watching this because you're so on the ent
• 50:53
  of your seat and you're no, like it's about to hit the fan.
• 50:57
  Yeah, it's about to hit the fan. So and that's I really like
• 51:04
  that scene. I think about that scene a lot, like I remember feeling
• 51:07
  that way kind of before, like COVID and stuff, or when we were
• 51:15
  sitting in Europe like wondering what was happening, or like anytime there's a tornado
• 51:20
  that we know is heading this way or like it's about to be stormy,
• 51:22
  Like I just have that sense. I always think of that scene like it's
• 51:28
  the calm before the scene kind of vibe and I'm just scene. It also
• 51:32
  plays like really nicely into like I think it was it Mandela that said,
• 51:37
  like, the the courage is not the absence of fear, but it's the
• 51:42
  triumph over it. And I think they really exemplify that in these you know
• 51:45
  where they're like because even Gandolf is like, yeah, this probably isn't going
• 51:50
  to go great, and I'm not like stoked, but we're going to do
• 51:53
  our best and we're you know, like here we are you know kind of
• 51:58
  deal. And I think that's I think that's powerful to show like those really
• 52:00
  powerful characters feeling that way. I think that's great. Good call, good
• 52:06
  shot. Nice. Well, let's do a few quotes here. It's time
• 52:10
  to show me the mother show me. I can say several Okay, besides,
• 52:22
  I am no man by aim. Like I said to Rob, I
• 52:27
  can't carry it. I can't carry it for you, but I can carry
• 52:31
  you. Yes, stoerful, my friends, you've out to no one I
• 52:36
  had written down, um, and then another one would about side by side
• 52:39
  with a friend we're like, says that to Gimli. I just love their
• 52:45
  dynamic throughout the whole trilogy. It's so that's all I had, because I
• 52:52
  knew y'all would have a lot. Yeah, I had all of those,
• 52:59
  Um, Gandalf says, I will not say do not weep, for not
• 53:01
  all tears are in evil. I heard that I might put that before the
• 53:07
  the boohoos for this episode. Okay, yeah, just for this one,
• 53:15
  just for this one another Gandalf. So Pippin says, I didn't think it
• 53:21
  would end this way, and Gandal says end. No, the journey doesn't
• 53:23
  end here. Death is just another path, one that we almost take.
• 53:27
  The gray rain curtain of this world rolls back and all turned to silver glass.
• 53:34
  God, that's beautiful. One funny one, Gimbli's like, certainty of
• 53:40
  death, small chances of success. What are we waiting for? So fun?
• 53:46
  That's good, it's so great. Um, why don't you say some
• 53:51
  bukes? Okay, I don't want to be in battle, but waiting on
• 53:57
  the edge of one is I can't escape is worse. This is bad.
• 54:02
  I hate this. Uh, let's see. Also just love the like just
• 54:12
  all of the This is more of a scene, but it's like when the
• 54:17
  it's chances, guy, I can't remember. Carl Irban is like, you
• 54:22
  shouldn't encourage the Hobbit, and She's like, why shouldn't he fight? He's
• 54:27
  gonna lose everyone too, Like why shouldn't he get the chance to, you
• 54:30
  know, fight for what he loves and all that. I just love that
• 54:32
  whole scene is so great. I don't have the quote written now, sorry,
• 54:36
  but I let the Oh, the stars are veiled, something stirs in
• 54:40
  the east, a sleepless malice. The eye of the enemy is moving.
• 54:45
  I just think that's such a sick line. That scene had a lot of
• 54:49
  cheese, those shots, that's I will make fun of that and laugh at
• 54:55
  that, Like what were those shots and those body movements with the so funny
• 55:00
  the plant here in his hand and it's like a lot of sauce on that
• 55:05
  spaghetti. Wow, that's great love. And Danni Thor when he's like he
• 55:15
  freaks out, abandon your post, flee, flee for your lives and then
• 55:19
  again, I'll just smacks a great line and so funny that they do that.
• 55:28
  Um arise, arise riders or something, and spears shall be shaken,
• 55:31
  shields shall be splintered, a sword day, a red day, ere the
• 55:37
  sun rises death. So cool, and it was apparently like his idea to
• 55:45
  ride back and forth and hit all their spears with his sword and like pump
• 55:50
  them up. And I just think that's so cool. And then yeah,
• 55:53
  and then he says ride now, ride now, ride to Ruin and the
• 55:58
  world's end death, and and they all just like a charge. So cool,
• 56:02
  so cool. I love that so much. I think it's so fun.
• 56:06
  Um. I also have I thought I had it. Rob. Do
• 56:12
  you have the his speech at the Black Gate? I do? Do you
• 56:16
  want to do it? Um? I don't feel strongly about it. If
• 56:20
  you have it, do it okay? I think this is the one.
• 56:23
  Yes, sons of God of Rohan, my brothers, I see in your
• 56:29
  eyes the same fear that would take the heart of me. A day may
• 56:31
  come when the courage of men fails, when we forsake our friends and break
• 56:36
  all bonds of fellowship. But it is not this day. An hour of
• 56:39
  wolves and shattered shields, and the age of men comes cratching down. But
• 56:44
  it is not this day. This day we fight by all that you hold
• 56:47
  deer on this earth. I did you stand, man of the West?
• 56:52
  So cool? I love that. And then he has his real soft it's
• 56:59
  so sweet love that he's got a tender side. Ah, he really does.
• 57:04
  He's really all such a saddie. He's so sad, for sure.
• 57:12
  Do you think he rehearsed that in his tent before that, Like, yeah,
• 57:15
  there's no way he pulled that out of his But no, I mean
• 57:20
  I hope, I hope he had to rehearse it because it's so good in
• 57:22
  tiny little like living it, you know, old medieval mirror hergorns time to
• 57:30
  go, oh man, yeah, so so fun. God does anybody else
• 57:39
  have any other ones? I have some, but I can. I wrote
• 57:42
  down the sam one. He says, Rosie Cotton dancing. She had ribbons
• 57:46
  in her hair. If ever I were to marry some someone, it would
• 57:51
  have been her. It would have been her. It would have been her.
• 57:54
  Yeah, yeah, just from sort of the the epilogy kind of part.
• 58:04
  But when he's like, how do you pick up the threads of an
• 58:06
  old life? How do you go on? When in your heart you begin
• 58:08
  to understand there is no going back. There is some things that time cannot
• 58:14
  mend, some hurts that go too deep, that have taken hold. And
• 58:17
  I just think that's such a beautiful sentiment. I just love that. There
• 58:24
  was one line that Eric Horn says too, when when he's like breaking up
• 58:30
  with her and he's like or whatever, he said, I have wished you
• 58:35
  joy. Since first I saw you and it was very nice. I was
• 58:37
  just like, that's that's a nice way to let somebody down. Yeah,
• 58:44
  I've thought you should be happy with someone else for a long time. Yeah,
• 58:47
  that's that's what I first saw you. Yeah, you should try and
• 58:52
  use that lovely. You know, it'd be like a nice boundary setting.
• 58:57
  No not yeah, okay, yeah, just if there's anybody that's like you,
• 59:04
  like, let's just see what she said. You know, since I
• 59:07
  first saw you in the audience, I have wished. I wished. Yeah,
• 59:13
  not to me. I didn't say no to a lot of people personally,
• 59:17
  So I don't think there'll be a lot opportunities. I don't know.
• 59:22
  I just like the general way to set a boundary. That sounds really like
• 59:27
  that. I like that. Yeah, that is nice. Joy. Since
• 59:30
  I've seen you, it's the moment I laid eyes on you, that is
• 59:34
  lovely. They would take it the wrong way, uh, Mary, you
• 59:38
  talked about this earlier, Jenica. But the Mary and Pippin when he finds
• 59:44
  them on the on the battlefield and he's like, Mary, it's me,
• 59:46
  it's Pippin. I knew you'd find me. Yes, are you gonna leave?
• 59:51
  Me, No, Mary, I'm gonna look after you. And that's
• 59:53
  like the first time he has like responsibility really as a character. He's kind
• 59:59
  of always being looked after. I just think that's really a nice moment for
• 1:00:02
  the Coming of Age two for like so many total viduals totally. When Sam
• 1:00:10
  is looking up, I think they're on like the side of the mountain and
• 1:00:14
  he looks up, mister Frodo, Look, there's light and beauty up there
• 1:00:17
  that no shadow can touch. I just thought that was like just a gorgeous
• 1:00:22
  little line you bout to no one. Is maybe the line of the movie,
• 1:00:28
  like it is. I maybe should have picked it for my favorite scene
• 1:00:31
  because it is so great. Yeah, that's probably gonna be the title of
• 1:00:37
  episode. So great, right, Yeah, that's a great idea. Love
• 1:00:42
  um oh, I love when they're in they're in the what is the dim
• 1:00:50
  Old Road? I think it's what they call it, the with the dead
• 1:00:52
  folks, like, the dead do not suffer the living, and he's just
• 1:00:57
  like, you will suffer me, And then he goes on and says like
• 1:01:00
  I summon you to yeah, summon you to fulfill your oath. None but
• 1:01:05
  the King of Gondor and he's like it has been remade, you know,
• 1:01:07
  talking about the line. But then he's like, uh, fight for us
• 1:01:13
  and regain your honor. And I just love when he's like, what say
• 1:01:15
  you? Yeah, what say you? Like, it's just so sweet.
• 1:01:19
  Yeah, what are you doing? You know? And then and then it
• 1:01:22
  cuts away because yeah, it's a it's a weird cut. I've never really
• 1:01:27
  understood it. I think they were just trying to like hold suspense. I
• 1:01:30
  guess. Yeah. It's also kind of weird in the book too, to
• 1:01:35
  be honest, because it's kind of like a cast aside, right, a
• 1:01:37
  little part of it. It's it's interesting, um, but yeah, it
• 1:01:43
  is lovely. Um. And then before that, I love when um el
• 1:01:50
  Ron brings him the sword, which is different than the book as well.
• 1:01:54
  In the book he has the sword the entire time. I think this actually
• 1:01:58
  works really well. But he's like, they will answer to the King of
• 1:02:01
  Gondor, and then he's en dural Flame of the west Fords from the shards
• 1:02:07
  of narcial Sauron will not have forgotten the sword of a len Deal. The
• 1:02:10
  blade that was broken shall return to menace Tirath, and I was like,
• 1:02:14
  yeah, so fun, so many hype moments in this. Yeah, there
• 1:02:20
  were a lot, yeah, so many. Also, so many endings.
• 1:02:23
  I was like, oh and another ending, we're still going still and then
• 1:02:30
  gone back to the shining. Yeah. If they would have got back to
• 1:02:34
  the Shire, would have been like forever long, I'm with you. Yeah,
• 1:02:37
  there was no way. Yeah. Also they had the drinking game.
• 1:02:42
  I think this is only an extending, like I think so, I think,
• 1:02:46
  but it's like no pastures, no spills, and no regardgation. It's
• 1:02:53
  really funny. And then obviously I think Alps have an advantage there. So
• 1:03:00
  yeah, it's so funny. It's like I feel something. I've a slight
• 1:03:02
  dingle in my fingers. I think it's affecting me. What I say.
• 1:03:07
  He can't hold his liquor and then he passes out. That's the cross side
• 1:03:10
  crats out. Real good, yeah, real great, real great. Love
• 1:03:15
  that. Uh. I think that's all the giant ones I have. I
• 1:03:22
  think, well, why don't we go to the next section because it's gonna
• 1:03:24
  be a while. Let's do boo hoo moments. Strong men also cry strong
• 1:03:40
  man also strong men also cry bugs? How how many do we have here?
• 1:03:50
  All? Right? So I this is hard a lot of them bleed
• 1:03:54
  over into each other. I've done my best. We have a new leader.
• 1:04:00
  I feel very certain. Is it in the thirties, It's not,
• 1:04:04
  Okay, it's in the forties. Wow, it is by far. The
• 1:04:11
  biggest was like twenty nine or something. But I like, I didn't know
• 1:04:16
  what to do because I was like every I think I calculated out and it
• 1:04:20
  was like every five minutes of film time and I was like, that actually
• 1:04:25
  doesn't seem that crazy to me in this I mean it is, it's a
• 1:04:30
  little crazy. You gotta get going. Forty of them, we gotta start
• 1:04:33
  throwing them out. It's tough. I've rationally it. There should be enough
• 1:04:39
  for what the journey home and like we have that moment where they're like,
• 1:04:42
  not the journey home awkward? Uh. I love when Marion Pippen are smoking
• 1:04:46
  when the others Approachiz and Gardage think that's a lovely happy moment. Those are
• 1:04:50
  happy tissues, not sad tissues. Uh we uh, we shall have peace.
• 1:04:57
  Um. Theaden's big speech, I think that's really sorry. Bro.
• 1:05:01
  Oh let's see. I love that the Theatin called for Agrima to come down
• 1:05:06
  and be forgiven. I just thought that was a lovely momentum they hailed the
• 1:05:12
  victorious dead. When Pippin holds the plant here and Gandolf is mad at him,
• 1:05:20
  and then immediately his like, oh crap, Pippen, are you okay?
• 1:05:24
  And like really cares for him? Deep yeah, the fool of a
• 1:05:28
  two cline so fun. Uh. Pippin apologizes to Mary and they realized they
• 1:05:33
  may never see each other again. Very emotional. Um Arwin talks about there
• 1:05:40
  you saw there was a child, you saw my son. I just was
• 1:05:43
  like, whoa, that's a lot. That's tough. Uh. Really this
• 1:05:48
  one surprised me. Gandolf writing through menas Tirith just with the super dope music
• 1:05:54
  playing over top of it. I loved that. I was very hyped at
• 1:05:57
  that moment um. Pippins swears fealty to the Lord of Denithor, which I
• 1:06:02
  thought was very lovely. He's not supposed to do that, but he just
• 1:06:05
  can't. They can't help would be good guys, those hobbits. Uh.
• 1:06:11
  When Frodo says he doesn't think he's coming back and Sam assures him he is.
• 1:06:15
  Um sort of a continuation of the other one. Does it count as
• 1:06:17
  an extra? Who cares the beacons are lit uh, and Rohan shall answer
• 1:06:24
  get hype hype Bro apparently hyped as well. Hype tears very common um.
• 1:06:32
  And then Mary offers his sword, which I love so much. I think
• 1:06:36
  that's lovely. Uh. The look of surprise when Fairmere sees uh, when
• 1:06:44
  Fairmere sees Pippin and he's like, this isn't the first habit you've ever come
• 1:06:47
  across as it And then they have their little talk. That's nice. Uh.
• 1:06:55
  Oh. I think it's Gandalf talking to Faremere and was like, or
• 1:07:00
  maybe it's Pippin. Anyway, someone says like, one day your father's gonna
• 1:07:03
  see it. Um. And then Faremire does this whole like if I come
• 1:07:09
  back, I hope you think better of me, you know, and all
• 1:07:11
  that stuff, which is so sad um. When they're convinced sam ate the
• 1:07:16
  lamb spread and then Froto tells them to buzz off. That's very sad Uh.
• 1:07:21
  Your father loves you, Faremre. He'll remember it before the end,
• 1:07:25
  before he rides out of his death, not his death but injury, I
• 1:07:30
  guess. Um. So cool. I love that line Pippin's song. I've
• 1:07:34
  always loved that song so much. Probably should have said that for for scene
• 1:07:39
  actually because it's a that's a lovely scene. That really great close up of
• 1:07:44
  that guy eating too is really fun and delicious. Uh. When al Ron
• 1:07:53
  gives the sword to Airgorn, I give hope to men, and then Airgorn
• 1:07:58
  says, I keep Anne for myself, which I think is such a badass
• 1:08:00
  line. Um And also a little bit of trivia. That is what Ergorn's
• 1:08:04
  mother says when she has to bring Ergorn to be with the elves because she
• 1:08:10
  fears for his life, which is cool. Oh, let's see when the
• 1:08:15
  Aden leaves a win and tells her you know, he loves her basically and
• 1:08:19
  is like, I'm sorry you have to stay or whatever. Blah blah blah,
• 1:08:25
  when he tells Mary not that he can't come to battle, when they
• 1:08:29
  Ada tells him he can't come to battle, and then the ride with me
• 1:08:32
  my lady, you know, and all that stuff, which is so fun.
• 1:08:38
  What say you a little hype action? Uh, let's see hype tears
• 1:08:45
  for sure, this is no place where a hobbit. And then Pippin you
• 1:08:50
  know, kills the orc that was coming for for Gandolph, which is cool,
• 1:08:55
  and he's like God tolucit to wounded, not back up the deal quickly,
• 1:08:58
  you know all that stuff. It's so fun and let's see. Uh.
• 1:09:03
  Oh, Frodo says to gollum Um that he has to destroy the ring.
• 1:09:10
  I have to destroy it for both our sakes. And that's the last
• 1:09:14
  time we see smigel Um really, because after that it's all Gollum like.
• 1:09:17
  It's it's sort of the last time he Those two you know characters are there,
• 1:09:24
  which is cool. Uh. Let's see they're talking. There's a lot
• 1:09:30
  of talking. Sam. Uh. When Sam like yells at Sheilap, let
• 1:09:35
  him go, you filth, you will not touch him again. Sam's the
• 1:09:40
  brave dude that got me good. Uh. And then Sam to Frodo,
• 1:09:45
  don't don't leave me here alone. Don't go where I can't follow you like
• 1:09:50
  woo, it's wild, very sad. Uh. When the row here Um
• 1:09:57
  arrives at the battle that is hyped here to the max brawls, uh fade
• 1:10:02
  and speech. Of course, that's kind of one. I don't know what
• 1:10:05
  to do anymore. I feel weird that I'm saying all these Uh. I
• 1:10:11
  didn't think it would end like this. The journey doesn't end here. Death
• 1:10:14
  is another path. That's lovely. If you kill I will kill you.
• 1:10:17
  If you touch him, I am no man. That can be good love
• 1:10:21
  that that's all caps um Fadeen and Awen's goodbye, oh, specifically when she
• 1:10:30
  says I'm gonna save you and he's like you already did? I mean?
• 1:10:34
  Come on? That is lovely. When Pippin finds Mary, of course,
• 1:10:41
  and America just crying in anguish when he sees his sister. That is tough.
• 1:10:46
  Yeah, tough boy. There's a lot guys, this is a problem.
• 1:10:53
  Um, it's just the damp of the first spring rain. I do
• 1:10:58
  not believe this darkness will endure or Fairmeer says that, and I thought that
• 1:11:00
  was a lovely line, very beautiful. Sam seeing the light and he says,
• 1:11:04
  there's some you know that evil can't touch. There's a light that it
• 1:11:08
  can't touch. Uh. Sam finally sends I says, I don't think there's
• 1:11:13
  gonna be a return journey, mister Frodo. That's yeah, super crazy and
• 1:11:18
  sad to Aragorn speech which we already mentioned, hype tears ts uh, let's
• 1:11:29
  see side by side with a friend. We said that absolutely got me um
• 1:11:33
  Sam remembering the shire and Frodo being like I can't I can't see it.
• 1:11:38
  I can't you know, see anything, and then he says like I'll carry
• 1:11:42
  you. That whole moment so wild, the soft for Frodo, and then
• 1:11:46
  the charge into battle was such like I could tell that's why they did that
• 1:11:50
  to tug at your heartstrings. And I was like, you guys nailed me.
• 1:11:55
  Good work, you really got me good on that. Uh they always
• 1:11:59
  do. Rob Um. Let's see when Frodo can't cast it into the fire
• 1:12:03
  and he's like, the ring is mine and he sort of becomes corrupted in
• 1:12:08
  that moment. Um. Uh. And then when Sam is like, don't
• 1:12:14
  you let go? Don't you do it? Like, don't you dare basically
• 1:12:17
  reach so cool love that. Um also probably pretty slippery with the Blood right
• 1:12:24
  yeah, I thought that that's just really Jeremy and well there's that, but
• 1:12:31
  these guys have basically been like making out. You know, there's got open
• 1:12:35
  cuts. Fred's got a lot of open cuts. I just don't the Blood
• 1:12:40
  Brothers already for sure? Well they want to be or no, yeah you
• 1:12:44
  know, um the Rosy Cotton dancing line robs. Yeah, I like that.
• 1:12:49
  Yeah. Uh, Frodo wakes up and then sees everyone in all the
• 1:12:54
  reunions. That's such a love of moment. Oh tell me, um,
• 1:12:59
  so did you yes the thing? Please tell yeah? I say it.
• 1:13:02
  So there's a theory that Frodo doesn't know Legoless's name. And one of the
• 1:13:12
  big things is because in that scene he like mouths like Sam and An and
• 1:13:18
  and then there's like when he sees Legoless, he's just like he's kind of
• 1:13:23
  small. After he's like, yeah, oh I love that me. Yeah,
• 1:13:31
  yeah, that was so sorry I had to interject with that love that
• 1:13:36
  up for that video. Uh, Ern is crowned and then Erwin is there,
• 1:13:41
  which is so lovely. My friends you about to no one might as
• 1:13:45
  well a kind of tan um. Yeah. Sam goes and talks to Rosie,
• 1:13:49
  which um, and then just the whole gray Haven's scene. So yeah,
• 1:13:58
  there's a few. That was all of them. That was it robbed
• 1:14:01
  you not off? You're not still going? Then? No, that's did
• 1:14:06
  you Actually we need to count because this is the winner, so we don't
• 1:14:11
  have to do that right right the second, but you do need to figure
• 1:14:14
  out you have to say so that we know what the number one is.
• 1:14:19
  It's fifty one like together. I don't know one. Wow, dude,
• 1:14:27
  you bypass the thirties and forties went straight to fifty. Hey, babe,
• 1:14:31
  if you're gonna do it, you might as well do it, you know
• 1:14:32
  what I'm saying. Yeah, I was feeling very tender this day that I
• 1:14:35
  watched it too, So it makes sense. So and how it's your top,
• 1:14:40
  your your greatest film of and there's so much like Heart too. Yeah.
• 1:14:45
  Yeah, I'm not gonna explain myself to you. No, you don't
• 1:14:48
  have to explain it. But will you explain some movie trivia for us?
• 1:14:53
  Well? I thought you could say, but will you explain it to a
• 1:14:55
  professional? Please? Please? Please? Movie truivia. Let's see. To
• 1:15:02
  get enough extras for the battle at the Black Gate, a few hundred members
• 1:15:05
  of the New Zealand Army were brought in, and apparently they were so enthusiastic
• 1:15:11
  during the battle scenes that they kept breaking the wooden swords and spears that they
• 1:15:15
  were given. I think it's fun, so they were. They were getting
• 1:15:19
  into it, which is funny. Let's see, this is crazy. Uh
• 1:15:25
  oh no, this is not that one, forget it. The last shot
• 1:15:27
  of principal photography was when the newly crowned Ericorn bows to the four Hobbits,
• 1:15:31
  which I think is lovely in a lot of ways. And although Vigo didn't
• 1:15:36
  need to be on set that day, he insisted on attending. He didn't
• 1:15:42
  have a crown, I guess because he wasn't in the shot, you know,
• 1:15:45
  for that specific shot. So he fashioned one out of paper, and
• 1:15:50
  with every take, every successive take, the crown was you know, they
• 1:15:56
  looked like, kept adding sillier things to it, and it just began.
• 1:15:59
  It became while then. So I guess the four actors playing the Hobbits had
• 1:16:02
  had difficulties suppressing their giggles, and I just thought that was such a sweet
• 1:16:06
  little moment. I love that. Let's make it fifty two. Let's add
• 1:16:10
  that to the movieum So, John rys Davies, I think we covered this
• 1:16:16
  earlier, but I don't remember. He would get really bad rashes from the
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  Gimli makeup, um and I think we said like he had to film every
• 1:16:26
  other day or whatever, so they the makeup department gave him an opportunity after
• 1:16:30
  he rapped to throw his Gimley mask into the fire on his last day of
• 1:16:35
  photography, and he didn't apparently he didn't hesitate at all. He grabbed it
• 1:16:40
  and they had a nice time. So I thought that was fun um set
• 1:16:45
  that one already. Well, let's see, Oh, the final reel of
• 1:16:50
  the movie was completed. The final reel of the movie to be completed was
• 1:16:56
  done only five days before the world premiere in wild in New Zealand. It
• 1:17:00
  was still wet from developing because there was no time to dry it. It's
• 1:17:05
  and the premiere was the first time that Peter Jackson had seen the completed movie,
• 1:17:11
  which I just think is insane. I just think that's crazy. And
• 1:17:15
  this also is crazy. The final day of filming on the trilogy actually happened
• 1:17:20
  over a month or over a month after this movie was theatrically released and three
• 1:17:26
  weeks after the two thousand and four Academy Awards. Sir Peter Jackson arranged to
• 1:17:30
  film one final shot of the skulls on the floor in the Paths of Death,
• 1:17:34
  which was included in the extended edition of the DVD, and he apparently
• 1:17:40
  like just had a great time and thought it was so funny that they were
• 1:17:43
  filming for a movie that had already won the Best Picture oscar Um. Originally
• 1:17:51
  it was going to end with a voice over by glad Reel detailing the fad
• 1:17:58
  of the fellowship after the events of the movie, and scenes with Gimli and
• 1:18:01
  Legolist because they kind of go on their body their Buddy Cop adventure afterwards were
• 1:18:08
  filmed, but they weren't used in any version of the finished movie, so
• 1:18:12
  those are out there somewhere, which is fun. Apparently, Billy Boyd's singing
• 1:18:17
  scene largely came about because they went out for karaoke one night and Philippa Boyen's,
• 1:18:28
  who was a co writer, was struck by the quality of Billy Boyd's
• 1:18:31
  voice. So, remembering that dannith Or asked Pippin to sing him a song
• 1:18:36
  when Farremre heads off to war, she resurrected the lyrics from the novel and
• 1:18:43
  he came up with a tune for it. I just think that's really neat.
• 1:18:45
  Yeah, And apparently Vigo Martinson also composed the tune and sung the part
• 1:18:50
  to the song that Airgorn sings at his coronation and the translation of the Elvish
• 1:18:57
  words are out of the Great Sea to Middle Earth. This is the place
• 1:19:00
  I will abide and my heirs unto the ending of the world, which is
• 1:19:04
  really fun. Um, let's see the movie made one thousand, four hundred
• 1:19:14
  and eight percent profit for a new line cinema. That's pretty good. That's
• 1:19:17
  pretty good, pretty pretty good. Let's see. It became the most nominated
• 1:19:25
  trilogy in Academy Award history, with thirty nominations, surpressing the Godfather trilogy with
• 1:19:31
  twenty nine and the Star Wars film franchise with twenty one. That's cool killing
• 1:19:38
  it. Elijah Wood is noted for his ability to stare fixedly in front of
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  him for ages without blinking, which is a weird thing to be noted for,
• 1:19:47
  but it was very useful for when he was comatose and wrapped up in
• 1:19:51
  the weblike cocoon. And Sir Peter Jackson is an arachnophobic person and bay she
• 1:20:00
  love on designs of the type of spiders he feared the most, which is
• 1:20:03
  pretty fun. It was very scary, so scary spiders good, Let's see.
• 1:20:12
  Vigo estimates that during the course of filming the trilogy included all the takes,
• 1:20:17
  he killed every stuntman on production at least fifty times, which I think
• 1:20:23
  is a funny. That's a funny way of saying that I like that.
• 1:20:26
  Um. During one of the shots filming the Charge of the Row, here
• 1:20:30
  a rider fell off the back of his horse and luckily, just by pure
• 1:20:34
  chance, all the horses that came behind him managed to miss him. So
• 1:20:39
  that could have been like real yeah, yeah, real bad, But they
• 1:20:45
  left out so that's good. Um, well, I thought this was interesting.
• 1:20:50
  Sir Peter Jackson hated the Army of the Dead, according to a magazine
• 1:20:55
  article, because he thought it was too unbelievable, but he kept it in
• 1:21:00
  the script because he didn't want to disappoint die hard fans of the books,
• 1:21:02
  which I was like, yeah, people would have been mad about that,
• 1:21:04
  But I like, but like, this is with a world of orcs and
• 1:21:10
  magic rings, where do we draw the line here? Yeah? Yeah,
• 1:21:15
  yeah, I love that for sure. The battle scenes report Or contain reportedly
• 1:21:20
  over two hundred thousand digital participants and are so huge that extra room had to
• 1:21:28
  be built into the Weta Digital's effects facility to house all the computer equipment needed
• 1:21:33
  to render the scenes, so they had to like put an addition on wild
• 1:21:41
  Crazy. Here's some just a slew of facts about the trilogy. Over six
• 1:21:45
  million feet of film was shot during production. There were forty eight thousand swords,
• 1:21:51
  axes, shields, and makeup prosthetics that were made. Twenty thousand,
• 1:21:57
  six hundred and two background actors were cast, nineteen thousand costumes were made by
• 1:22:03
  the wardrobe department. Ten thousand crowd participants at a New Zealand cricket game who
• 1:22:11
  made the Orc army grunts, which I think is so funny. There was
• 1:22:15
  twenty four hundred behind the scenes crew members at the height of production, which
• 1:22:19
  is wild. Twenty four hundred, Yeah, sixteen hundred pairs of prosthetic hobbit
• 1:22:27
  feet were created. Two hundred and fifty horses were used in one scene.
• 1:22:31
  One hundred and eighty computer visual effects artists were employed, which I actually think
• 1:22:36
  is like not that many compared Yeah, too low, Yeah right, it's
• 1:22:43
  really wild, but still a lot obviously, but yeah. One hundred fourteen
• 1:22:47
  total speaking roles in the films. One hundred real locations in New Zealand were
• 1:22:54
  used for backdrops. There were fifty tailors, cobblers, designers and others in
• 1:22:59
  the ward robe department, thirty actors and actresses trained to speak fictional dialects and
• 1:23:04
  languages, and then seven total years of development for all three movies. Wow,
• 1:23:11
  doing there's a lot of facts crazy, Um boy, there's too many
• 1:23:18
  here. I'll try to call to her a little bit. Sean Aston screen
• 1:23:21
  tested for Sam Weise Gamgee by playing the scene where he cradles the comatose Frodo
• 1:23:27
  after hits encountered with she Loved and I was looking, Yeah, that's a
• 1:23:30
  tough one to do, but okay, that's that's tough. I thought it
• 1:23:33
  was fun that they they felt very challenged when creating She Loved by by how
• 1:23:40
  effective the Giant Spider had been in Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets,
• 1:23:43
  which I just thought was a fun a fun little crossover. Um. There
• 1:23:49
  was apparently a scene shot that involved Aragorn tackling a physical manifestation of Sauron one
• 1:23:57
  on one outside the Black Gate, and I'm glad they didn't do that because
• 1:24:00
  that was that would have been weird. They decided it's partly why uh Ergorn
• 1:24:06
  fights that big Orc at the end, because they superimposed the Orc or the
• 1:24:11
  troll, the cave troll. They superimposed him over Sauron, which was,
• 1:24:16
  yeah, yeah, for sure, this is very That would have been that
• 1:24:19
  would have been weird. I want to I liked a mouth of Saron though
• 1:24:24
  scene in the extended mission that was creepy as hell, super cool, And
• 1:24:28
  I don't think he kills him in the book. I think that was a
• 1:24:30
  choice they made in this and it was cool. It was cathartic. Yeah,
• 1:24:33
  we needed it, let's see. Oh. I just thought this was
• 1:24:38
  really neat that a day may come when the Courage of Men fails. That
• 1:24:41
  whole speech that Ergorn gives um, he says an hour of wolves and shattered
• 1:24:45
  shields, when the age of Men comes crashing down. This is a very
• 1:24:48
  close paraphrase to the forty fifth stanza of an old Norse poem called Voluspa,
• 1:24:55
  which describes Ragnarok and is just really cool. And apparently that same poem was
• 1:25:00
  the source of several names of dwarves in the world of Tilteen, so that's
• 1:25:03
  cool. Yeah. Uh, I just think this is crazy. John Gilbert
• 1:25:12
  was editing Lord of the Rings the Fellowship of the Ring, while Michael Horton
• 1:25:15
  was editing The Two Towers, while Jamie Selkirk was cutting the final chapter like
• 1:25:24
  and apparently Peter Jackson like had a signed out that each of them were going
• 1:25:29
  to edit each specific one and he wanted Selkirk to do the last one because
• 1:25:32
  he thought he would sort of like tie up the story in a way.
• 1:25:35
  But it's just crazy. They had to be editing those at the same time.
• 1:25:40
  Supparently, that's crazy wild Why I thought. I didn't realize. Yeah,
• 1:25:45
  I guess that makes sense. If they shot for seven years straight,
• 1:25:49
  that would make sense. I think they shot. They didn't shoot for seven
• 1:25:54
  years straight. It was like developed for that long. Ye shot for like
• 1:25:59
  two hundred seventy days or something. Yeah, I think that's right. Yeah,
• 1:26:03
  like a couple of year period though, right or something. I don't
• 1:26:05
  know. I don't Yeah, I think it was like not quite a year
• 1:26:12
  of them actually shooting. That's wild. But I mean Helm's Deep by itself
• 1:26:16
  was four months. Yeah, so crazy. Yeah, just in the rain,
• 1:26:21
  yeah, wid um and then just real quick, this is kind of
• 1:26:28
  a deep lower thing. But in the books, the prophecy that no man
• 1:26:33
  can kill the witch king Um was said by glor findel Um, who foretold
• 1:26:39
  that not by the hand of men shall he fall. But in the books
• 1:26:45
  it it's sort of implied that it's because Mary has an ancient blade that was
• 1:26:49
  given to him by Tom bomba deal and that breaks the spell, and Mary's
• 1:26:55
  not a man, He's a hobbit, right, so that's part of the
• 1:26:59
  reason why it works. And then the kill shot comes from aowen. So
• 1:27:01
  I just thought that was interesting. Tom Bombadill Robb was in the books and
• 1:27:05
  is like a pretty big character and very yeah, like he's mostly only in
• 1:27:11
  the first book, the Fellowship portion, but he is sort of this like
• 1:27:15
  has been around forever and is sort of the manifestation of like nature I guess
• 1:27:21
  is like my probably the most powerful being in Middle Earth. Yeah yeah,
• 1:27:27
  and kind of just says like I'm not involved in this ring stuff, said
• 1:27:30
  he would lose the ring, like because they were like, can't we give
• 1:27:32
  you the ring? And He's like, no, I would lose it.
• 1:27:34
  I would just lose it because I don't care about it, you know,
• 1:27:39
  his goldberry. Yeah. But so that's why in the movie, obviously they
• 1:27:44
  never meet Tom, so it's just like a regular dagger that he stabs him
• 1:27:46
  with um and it works in the movie, I think too, But that's
• 1:27:49
  why it happens in the book. And I just thought that was a good
• 1:27:53
  way to bring up Tom for just a hot second. So that was all
• 1:27:57
  the trivia I had robbed any I just said. The last spoken line of
• 1:28:01
  the movie was well, I'm back. Is also the last line of the
• 1:28:04
  book. Yeah, and it's perfect. Yes, And it's a great draft
• 1:28:10
  that we're going to do later. It is, No, it is great.
• 1:28:14
  Any trivia that we missed, I think you got it covered. No,
• 1:28:16
  I'm sorry. It was a lot. Um. Are there going to
• 1:28:20
  be more sequels to this? I mean there was the prequel. I don't
• 1:28:25
  think there'll be sequels too, it doesn't seem likely. And we had that
• 1:28:30
  awesome Prime show. Did you watch that? I'm like a quarter of the
• 1:28:34
  way through it. It was like when all a bunch of really good shows
• 1:28:38
  came out at once, so I need to go back and catch it.
• 1:28:41
  I was watching the Game of Thrones one and yes, that one at the
• 1:28:44
  same time. This is almost too much. It's too jarring. I don't
• 1:28:47
  know, especially for like an admitted not huge fantastic Yeah a lot. Good
• 1:28:55
  for you though, for going for it. Yeah, nice, nice,
• 1:28:59
  Well do you guys want to play game? Yes? Yes, I decided
• 1:29:02
  to make a plot tub time machine and what that is. I'm just gonna
• 1:29:06
  tell the plot to a movie and once you know what the film is you
• 1:29:11
  just ring in with your name? And um, all these have something in
• 1:29:16
  common if you know what the theme is ringing at anytime and guess, so
• 1:29:23
  let's do it. Number one. When the royal family is accidentally killed,
• 1:29:30
  the heir to the throne proves to be a loutish American. Overnight he goes
• 1:29:33
  from sleazy Las Vegas lounge singer. Yes, bugs, it's no way.
• 1:29:36
  Jennica has seen this, King Ralph. This one was kind of in for
• 1:29:43
  bugs a little bit. But okay, so King Ralph for one. You
• 1:29:48
  would love it, though, Jennica, So you should watch it. It
• 1:29:50
  was fucking I think you know I Oh it's old, Yeah for sure.
• 1:30:00
  All right, let's go to number two. This animated feature follows the adventures
• 1:30:04
  of a young lion who is heir to the throne his wicked uncle. Plot
• 1:30:08
  said, yes, Jane King King, Yes, and she's on the board.
• 1:30:15
  I was not here. Does anybody okay? Movies with kings King in
• 1:30:21
  the title, King in the title. So when we were texting about what
• 1:30:29
  our draft should be, I had already done this game and was like,
• 1:30:32
  funny, why did I say the King thing? No, I'm gonna have
• 1:30:35
  to do a new game to research. So they we're gonna do the Last
• 1:30:40
  Lions. I thought my idea was so good. Yeah, I thought you
• 1:30:43
  were great. Let's go to number three. Just after the end of the
• 1:30:49
  Gulf War, four American soldiers assigned to steal Saddam Hussein's hidden gold, led
• 1:30:55
  by cynical Sergeant Major Archie Gates. Three of the men are rescued by rebels.
• 1:31:00
  Sergeant Troy Barlow is captured and tortured by Iraqi intelligence. The Iraqi rebels
• 1:31:04
  beg for the American trio to help fight against the impending arrival of Hussain's leak
• 1:31:09
  guard. The men agreed to fight in return for help rescuing Troy. Five
• 1:31:16
  four US Yes, bugs. I don't think it's Vietnam. It's not four
• 1:31:24
  kings this or something. It's not four kings. It's close. Do you
• 1:31:30
  have a guest, Jennica, No, not at all. Say the number
• 1:31:32
  three, Jennica, say three kings. It is three kings. Oh wow,
• 1:31:43
  yay, thank you. Not think of that till the is it three
• 1:31:48
  kings? Damn it, it is three kings. Who's in it? Last
• 1:31:54
  year? No? No, no, this was the clooney. Uh,
• 1:31:59
  who's in I was thinking of it. Not wrong movie Mark Wahlberg. Maybe
• 1:32:03
  it was those two. Yeah, yeah, Orlando Bloom I think was in
• 1:32:09
  it too. I think you're right. Think I never saw I saw it
• 1:32:13
  one time. And the one time I saw it was at a gym and
• 1:32:18
  they had like a movie playing in the like where the treadmills we were,
• 1:32:24
  and I was like, oh, I've never seen this, So then I
• 1:32:26
  just walked for a baby Mark baby Clooney. Yes, what's the Vietnam one
• 1:32:34
  that just came out? They had the four the four black actors. Oh
• 1:32:41
  to five bloods Okay, that wasn't even clause. That was okay, Um,
• 1:32:46
  all right, let's go to number four. In this film adaptation of
• 1:32:54
  the Rogers and Hammerstein musical, a widowed Welsh mother becomes a governess in English,
• 1:33:00
  tutor to the wives and many children of the stubborn king mong cut of
• 1:33:03
  c Yes, bugs, is this the king and I the king? And
• 1:33:09
  makes sense? I've never seen that neither. Always it always was a play
• 1:33:14
  like locally. Yeah, well you never saw it either. Nope, never
• 1:33:18
  did. We'll have to make a mandate, go see it mandated. Let's
• 1:33:24
  go to number five, England's prince Albert must have send the throne as King
• 1:33:30
  George six, but he has a speech impediment. Knowing that the country needs
• 1:33:34
  her husband to be able to communicate effectively, Elizabeth hires Lionel Loge, an
• 1:33:40
  Australian actor. Yes, the King's Speech, The King's Speech, Wow,
• 1:33:45
  which is a wonderful movie. I still have never seen that. It's really
• 1:33:50
  really good. You're gonna watch it. I know I've said it a lot,
• 1:33:54
  but it is actually good. Sometimes I forget that Prince Albert was an
• 1:33:57
  actual person and not just a piercing and akin, oh yes, I'm I'm
• 1:34:05
  sorry. All right, let's go to number six. An expansive remake follows
• 1:34:12
  director Carl Denham and his crew on a journey from New York City to an
• 1:34:15
  ominous island to film a new movie. Accompanying him or playwright Jack Driscoll,
• 1:34:20
  an actress, and Darrow, who was whisked away by the monstrous ape after
• 1:34:27
  they reached the island. Yes, King Kong, King Kong, you got
• 1:34:31
  it? Was it Skull Island? Or no? It was? I took
• 1:34:35
  it out of the plot synopsis to not give it away. But was it
• 1:34:42
  King Kong Skull Island? Okay? Which is another Peter Jackson film. It
• 1:34:48
  was, Oh, it absolutely was. Yeah. Jared Black and the intim
• 1:34:55
  Brody Yea also might be mentioned in Great Asked Lines Later. I saw it
• 1:35:01
  on a bunch of lists. It was on all the lists. But that
• 1:35:05
  was like the nineteen thirty three one. Yeah, I've never seen right.
• 1:35:09
  Peter Jackson was good. I like because Peter like the thing he did after
• 1:35:15
  Lord of the Rings and Andy Serkis was cong right, right, um,
• 1:35:25
  where are we up sitting in after six their bugs? I'm not sure?
• 1:35:29
  I just gave Jennica point. Yeah, she got king con Did I give
• 1:35:32
  her a point? She got three kings and the lion King you gave to
• 1:35:41
  me? She should have three? Three? Okay, I did I have
• 1:35:44
  four? History, Let's go to number seven. After Shock, jock Jack
• 1:35:49
  Lucas inadvertently provokes a caller into murdering a group of innocent people in a Manhattan
• 1:35:55
  bar. He grows depressed and turns to booze as he's about to hit rock
• 1:35:59
  Bot. I mean. It's a homeless man named Perry whose wife was killed
• 1:36:02
  by the collar he pushed to the brink. Mentally scarred by his loss,
• 1:36:08
  Perry spends his days searching for the Holy Grail. Jack, feeling culpable for
• 1:36:13
  the poor man's plight, pledges to help him in his quest. Oh is
• 1:36:16
  this the Bukes? Yeah, the King Fisher just flip him the Fisher King.
• 1:36:26
  Yeah. I was thinking, yeah, yeah, the Fisher King.
• 1:36:30
  Yeah, that was the Robin Williams Jeff Bridges one. I didn't know that
• 1:36:34
  was the plot of it that. I didn't remember that thing the plot either.
• 1:36:41
  I have to watch that. I've never seen it. But the shock
• 1:36:44
  Jack Robin Williams. No, Robin Williams was the homeless man. Jeff Bridges
• 1:36:49
  was the shock jock. Wow, young young Jeff Bridges. Yikes. Yeah,
• 1:36:57
  yeah, yikes. Let's go to number eight. While in Uganda on
• 1:37:00
  a medical mission, Scottish doctor Nicholas Garrigan becomes the personal physician. Yes,
• 1:37:05
  the last King of Scotland. Boom, very good. I like that movie.
• 1:37:11
  That's a great movie. Number nine Gary Eggsy Unwin, whose late father
• 1:37:17
  secretly worked for Yes. Nice. Yes, I thought that was as impressive
• 1:37:33
  because I was so so traumatized about that movie. It was so I was
• 1:37:45
  like, damn, what did you do? It was so violent, Like
• 1:37:48
  I'm having such a nice time when I'm so sorry. Yeah, I was
• 1:37:53
  really upset. I was really I remember exactly where and when. So anyway,
• 1:37:59
  exsyways, you definitely have it. Well it helped in this, It
• 1:38:03
  definitely did. YEA. That's amazing all right. Last one, you guys,
• 1:38:12
  inspired by a legendary Egyptian warriors set five thousand years ago and the notorious
• 1:38:17
  city of Gomorrah, where an evil ruler is determined to lay waste to all
• 1:38:20
  the nomadic peoples of the desert. The few remaining tribes never natural allies have
• 1:38:27
  to unite or parish. Knowing their enemy relies on the visions of a sorcerer,
• 1:38:31
  they hire a skilled assassin, Matthais, to eliminate the visionary. This
• 1:38:38
  is also a spinoff of the Mummy films. Oh so is it? Scorpion
• 1:38:44
  King Scarpian King? I thought it was like Exodus of Kings or also God
• 1:38:51
  Exeducipids. God. Yeah, crazy, nicely done, so beughs. I
• 1:39:00
  think you I think you got it. I won, yeah, just barely,
• 1:39:04
  just barely. Great job. I did not get Eggy or whatever his
• 1:39:08
  name, Eggs Eggs. So you'll tell us how this draft goes, Buddy.
• 1:39:14
  The top five best. Last lines of a thing. I will,
• 1:39:15
  I will, but that's for our patrons only, so if you want to
• 1:39:18
  check that out, go to patreon dot com slash the Avid Indoorsman. Uh
• 1:39:23
  and for now we'll sort of wrap this up. Gene, thanks for coming
• 1:39:26
  on. This was so fun. Thanks for having me, let me nerd
• 1:39:30
  out. You're the best, Always lovely to have you. Um, you
• 1:39:34
  know, she just wants to encourage everyone to go see a professional therapist,
• 1:39:40
  starting with me. So if you find yourself crying over two times forty times,
• 1:39:48
  she's pretty healthy. To me, he's pretty normal. I think if
• 1:39:54
  you're not crying that many times a movie, you should probably check it out,
• 1:39:58
  right you did? Inside? Okay? Uh, well this is fun.
• 1:40:02
  We don't have a coming attraction because we haven't decided, so just be
• 1:40:05
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• 1:40:11
  be and you can just not listen to that one. It'll be great.
• 1:40:13
  Uh So yeah, stay tuned for that. But this, uh, this
• 1:40:15
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• 1:40:19
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