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Sharri | 9 September · Sharri

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Speaker 1: Why on Sky News This is Sharry, Thanks so much, James,
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Speaker 1: and good evening. The Prime Minister caught filming mindless TikTok
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Speaker 1: videos at the lodge last week instead of finding the
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Speaker 1: time to meet with the brave former hostage Ellie Sharabi.
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Speaker 1: I'll show you the videos alban Easy filmed with party
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Speaker 1: girl podcasters footage showing the Palestinian activist on horseback telling
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Speaker 1: off a schoolboy at Bondai last night. I mean, this
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Speaker 1: is utterly unacceptable, this confrontation in just a minute, plus
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Speaker 1: Trump's birthday card to Epstein.
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Speaker 2: Yes, the one he said didn't exist.
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Speaker 1: I'll discuss this with Brodwin Bishop and James Willis Shorty
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Speaker 1: and the Liberals consumed by infighting on net zero and
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Speaker 1: now on Just Enterprise.
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Speaker 2: But first, the.
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Speaker 1: Prime Minister filmed mindless TikTok videos in Canberra last week
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Speaker 1: instead yead of finding the time to meet with the
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Speaker 1: brave former hostage Ellie Sharabi. Sharabi, who was in captivity
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Speaker 1: for nearly five hundred days, has met with President Trump
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Speaker 1: and UK Prime Minister Keir Starmer. Yet Albanizi didn't make
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Speaker 1: the time to meet with him, but instead our Prime
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Speaker 1: minister found the time to film inane tiktoks like this.
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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, are you here to see me?
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Speaker 3: No, silly I go?
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Speaker 2: Here you go? Where Hervard Law School? You got into
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Speaker 2: Harvard Law?
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Speaker 4: What like?
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Speaker 2: It's hard when this is unbelievable.
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Speaker 1: That was filmed at the Lodge in Canberra on Thursday,
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Speaker 1: it was a Parliamentary sitting day. Albanzi did not meet
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Speaker 1: with Sharabi last week when he was in Canberra, and
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Speaker 1: instead left him to meet with Richard Miles.
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Speaker 2: And Penny Wong.
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Speaker 1: Now. Hearing Sharabi's unbelievable story of survival under brutal conditions
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Speaker 1: in Hamas Terra tunnels perhaps wasn't important enough for Albaniazi.
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Speaker 1: Sharab came back to Israel starved, weighing just forty four kilograms,
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Speaker 1: only to find out that his wife and two daughters
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Speaker 1: had been murdered on October seven. That was the story
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Speaker 1: Albanize he didn't find time to hear last week.
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Speaker 2: But he did make the time for this. Let's see
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Speaker 2: it again. I'm sorry, are you here to see me?
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Speaker 3: No silly I go?
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Speaker 2: Here you go? Where Hervard Law School? You got into
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Speaker 2: Harvard Law? Quite like? It's harbor and that wasn't all.
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Speaker 1: Those girls who have a Party Girl podcast dared him
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Speaker 1: to use the phrase go and touch grass in parliament,
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Speaker 1: and not only did he do do that, but he
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Speaker 1: filmed a clip of himself touching the grass at the lotch.
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Speaker 5: A're gonna say the word and then you have to
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Speaker 5: guess what it might mean, touch grass or go and touch.
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Speaker 6: Grass, keep your feet on the ground.
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Speaker 5: Like come back down to earth.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah much yeah, And.
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Speaker 4: I suggest you guys opposite that they go touch grass
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Speaker 4: during the break.
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Speaker 1: This shows the warpped priorities of this joke of a
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Speaker 1: prime minister. The girls also asked Alban easy to use
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Speaker 1: the phrase de lulu again in parliament.
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Speaker 5: I feel like you could use its giving for sure
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Speaker 5: in parliament as well, like but it just depends on
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Speaker 5: the context.
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Speaker 3: But you can be like it's giving Lilai a panzampire
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Speaker 3: like giving.
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Speaker 8: Or much like you could you could combine them with
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Speaker 8: it's giving de lulu.
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Speaker 5: Yes, oh my gosh, it's giving delulu. Yeah, I reckon,
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Speaker 5: that's pretty easy to deliver.
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Speaker 1: And so when the Prime Minister was asked a very
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Speaker 1: serious question about former Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews attending the
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Speaker 1: Chinese military parade alongside dictators.
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Speaker 2: This is what he said.
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Speaker 9: This month, the Prime Minister expelled the Iranian ambassador, an
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Speaker 9: action the Coalition has strongly supported. But what message does
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Speaker 9: it send when the Prime Minister of this country doesn't
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Speaker 9: have the spine to condemn his former flatmate Daniel Andrews
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Speaker 9: for posing in family photos with the Iranian president, a
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Speaker 9: leader whose regime has actively orchestrated attacks on Australian soil.
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Speaker 6: They are delulus to speaker.
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Speaker 1: I mean an extremely serious question, and Albanesi insults Australians
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Speaker 1: by answering with an in joke from podcasters. Now, the
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Speaker 1: Prime Minister may be avoiding questions on national security well,
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Speaker 1: but at least he has the tick of approval from
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Speaker 1: these party girl podcast girls.
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Speaker 5: So we are currently in the Prime Minister's house, the lodge.
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Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely gorgeous.
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Speaker 5: Albow is the man. We are obsessed with him.
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Speaker 1: And yeah the girls filmed are the clips at the
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Speaker 1: lodge as well?
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Speaker 2: Like this, What is the main thing?
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Speaker 10: We ain't got enough of Finder's country hospitals, No, libah,
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Speaker 10: we ain't got enough fit women and we's got too
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Speaker 10: many mingers.
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Speaker 2: No offense.
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Speaker 1: I mean you look at this and you just think, well,
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Speaker 1: maybe Albanizey doesn't have enough to do as prime minister.
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Speaker 1: I mean, most working adults with full time jobs and
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Speaker 1: families and households to run barely have enough time to
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Speaker 1: get everything done in a day, and they certainly don't
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Speaker 1: have enough time to spend hours making.
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Speaker 2: Silly TikTok videos for social media.
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Speaker 1: Yet this is what we're increasingly seeing, not just from Albanesi,
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Speaker 1: but from his entire side of politics.
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Speaker 2: They're meant to be governing.
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Speaker 1: Albanesi government ministers are increasingly wasting time making these inane videos,
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Speaker 1: and taxpayers are paying them to do this. And then
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Speaker 1: there are the social media staff, again paid by the taxpayer.
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Speaker 1: We've seen these sort of videos from the Housing Minister Clara.
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Speaker 2: O'Neil painting.
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Speaker 11: Community by some people.
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Speaker 1: Sicily, it's not like she has a housing crisis to soort.
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Speaker 2: Out or anything.
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Speaker 1: And then here's the Communications Minister Annika Wells too.
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Speaker 2: I don't know, it's Adam Reynold's big enough. You take
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Speaker 2: that back. I could do an entire video just on
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Speaker 2: that gig.
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Speaker 1: I don't even know what she's talking about there. And
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Speaker 1: then this is the employment and workplace relations Minister Amanda Rishworth.
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Speaker 8: My name.
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Speaker 12: Some people.
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Speaker 2: It stillsn't it's just so cringe and have a look
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Speaker 2: at this.
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Speaker 1: This is an entire group of labor MPs, including the
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Speaker 1: Assistant Minister Jed Carney.
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Speaker 2: Where's let's well? I mean, who has time for this?
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Speaker 1: I certainly don't as a journalist and working mother. How
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Speaker 1: do the people who are meant to be running the
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Speaker 1: country have the time?
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Speaker 2: Look? The alban Ezy.
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Speaker 1: Government, from the Prime minister down needs to stop wasting
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Speaker 1: our taxpayer dollars on mindless nonsense and actually.
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Speaker 2: Start fixing this country.
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Speaker 1: There's a housing crisis, a cost of living crisis, ballooning debt,
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Speaker 1: social cohesion is utterly broken, and there's unprecedented crime in
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Speaker 1: our major cities. Yeah, Albinizi wastes his time like he's
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Speaker 1: a teenager obsessed with TikTok. It's embarrassing, it's juvenile, and
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Speaker 1: you'd have to say this is not a serious government.
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Speaker 1: Last night at Bondi, an activist rode a hoss on
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Speaker 1: the beach holding the Palestinian flag.
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Speaker 2: He rode on the.
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Speaker 1: Beach, through the streets and he even stopped to give a.
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Speaker 2: T shirt to a prominent lawyer.
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Speaker 1: Now this was shocking enough, but outrageous footage merged today
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Speaker 1: of this man verbally harassing a school kid at Bondai.
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Speaker 2: The boy did really well, he argued back.
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Speaker 1: He held his own but nonetheless, this really is quite upsetting.
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Speaker 2: Have a look, you're a kid, some respect you. I
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Speaker 2: feel I feel bad.
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Speaker 1: So the boy said, I feel bad for your hoss,
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Speaker 1: and that Palestinian activist said, I feel bad for your parents.
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Speaker 2: That's what he tells a child.
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Speaker 1: An adult activist arguing with a schoolboy telling him I
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Speaker 1: feel sorry for his parents. I mean, this is appalling,
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Speaker 1: and good on the boy for standing up for himself.
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Speaker 1: But again, where are the police. We spoke about this
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Speaker 1: last night. It is against the law to ride a
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Speaker 1: horse and Bondi Beach. You can't even take a dog
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Speaker 1: off the lease leash on the beach.
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Speaker 2: Now.
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Speaker 1: I asked the New South I Was police today if
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Speaker 1: they were planning on issuing any fines or charges, and
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Speaker 1: they said that police were called to Bondai Beach following
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Speaker 1: reports a man was riding a horse on the beach
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Speaker 1: in an unsafe manner near members of the public. They
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Speaker 1: said that the twenty year old man was issued a
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Speaker 1: moved on direction, which he complied with. There were no
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Speaker 1: reports of injuries and inquiries are ongoing, so just to
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Speaker 1: move on order. And then a friend sent me who
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Speaker 1: happened to be their footage of the moment the police
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Speaker 1: asked this man to move on.
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Speaker 11: What made you come down to what wit?
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Speaker 10: What made you come down.
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Speaker 8: Popular beach?
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Speaker 10: That detail you both.
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Speaker 1: So it is against the law to ride a hoss
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Speaker 1: on Bondai beach, but he wasn't fined.
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Speaker 2: So everyone else has to obey the law.
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Speaker 1: But apparently the law doesn't apply to these activists. They're
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Speaker 1: above the law. I mean, the man has been identified.
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Speaker 1: I'm not going to give him publicity on air, but
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Speaker 1: his identity is well known and it is against the
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Speaker 1: law to ride a hoss on the beach. So why
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Speaker 1: haven't the police issued a fine already?
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Speaker 6: Would?
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Speaker 1: Jewish leader Alex Ripchin said today that the selective application
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Speaker 1: of the law when it comes to Palestinian protesters has
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Speaker 1: caused confusion and dismay for two years now, playing into
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Speaker 1: the hands of those who seek to needlessly provoke. Aliens
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Speaker 1: deserve better, and this is an established pattern. You recall
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Speaker 1: that police were investigating terror chants and signs at the
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Speaker 1: pro Palestinian rally on the Harbor Bridge as well well.
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Speaker 1: I asked police where this investigation was up to today
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Speaker 1: and they said that in relation to the terror flags
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Speaker 1: being flown on the bridge, the Hamas symbol displayed and
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Speaker 1: the death chance, they said that following a review of
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Speaker 1: the three incidents, including receiving legal advice, no offenses have
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Speaker 1: been detected. No offenses detected and not even for chance
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Speaker 1: like this, So not an offense apparently for this man
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Speaker 1: to wear a sweater supporting a designated terrorist organization her
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Speaker 1: mus according to New South Wales Police, it's apparently not
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Speaker 1: an offense to support terror and the police said they
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Speaker 1: are still trying to identify this woman holding a poster
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Speaker 1: with a Nazi swastika on it. Maybe if we can
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Speaker 1: take down the strap across the screen we can see
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Speaker 1: her face.
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Speaker 2: There you go.
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Speaker 1: They are still trying to identify her. So if you
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Speaker 1: know her, contact the police. And so with no charges
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Speaker 1: or fines or warnings or any action at all, the
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Speaker 1: normalization of racism and the support for terrorism in Australia
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Speaker 1: continues on Sunday. On Sunday, there were chants of Intervada
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Speaker 1: and resistance ringing out on Bondai Beach.
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Speaker 8: Look.
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Speaker 1: I don't know about you, but I'm tired of this
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Speaker 1: mob spewing hate and getting away with their lawless conduct
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Speaker 1: because authorities refuse to act.
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Speaker 2: The activists think the city.
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Speaker 1: Belongs to them, the Harbor Bridge, the Opera House, Bondai Beach.
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Speaker 1: They're using these beautiful Australian icons as a platform for hate.
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Speaker 2: And support of terrorism.
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Speaker 1: It's the antithesis of our Australian values. Not only is
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Speaker 1: there no action, but our political leaders seem incapable of
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Speaker 1: unequivocally condemning it, and as a result, our streets are
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Speaker 1: becoming more unsafe and unwelcome and our country is beyond recognition.
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Speaker 2: And Joining me.
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Speaker 1: Now is former Speaker of the House Bronwin Bishop and
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Speaker 1: Daily Telegraph journalist James Will.
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Speaker 2: It's great to see you both.
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Speaker 1: Bronwin looking at these scenes and as a highly experienced,
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Speaker 1: long serving politician yourself, what do you think our leaders
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Speaker 1: should be doing.
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Speaker 8: They have to take a strong stand against these demonstrations.
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Speaker 8: It failed day one with the Opera House, but I
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Speaker 8: listened to people like Premier Mins. He comes out and
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Speaker 8: makes all right statements and sounds quite reasonable.
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Speaker 2: But nothing happens.
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Speaker 8: It's all up here to look good, but the underlings
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Speaker 8: down here give support for these people. So clearly I
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Speaker 8: speakman actually came out and said something very sensible today
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Speaker 8: ban Bondo Beach is a place to have these demonstrations
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Speaker 8: and I absolutely agree with that, together with the Harbor
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Speaker 8: Bridge and the fore court of the Sydney Opera House. Exactly,
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Speaker 8: it's time we took a stand. Enough, easy enough.
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Speaker 1: Every Australian should feel safe and welcome going to the beach.
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Speaker 2: And it shouldn't be abused for protests.
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Speaker 1: James, I want to ask you about that footage of
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Speaker 1: the activist arguing with.
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Speaker 2: The school kit.
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Speaker 1: I mean, just you know, we obviously had to blur
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Speaker 1: his face because he's a minor, that's how young he is,
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Speaker 1: and the active dispointing his fingers saying educate yourself to
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Speaker 1: a schoolboy.
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Speaker 12: Yeah, well quickly to Bromin's point, I mean, the sad
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Speaker 12: reality is that the legal system has and the laws
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Speaker 12: that are in place are so weak now and the
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Speaker 12: courts have become you know, almost We've seen this with
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Speaker 12: demonstrations for a few years. They're siding with activists, they're
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Speaker 12: feeling sorry for activists. They're using excuses like climate alarmism
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Speaker 12: to get people off blocking the Harbor Bridge or other
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Speaker 12: bridges in Sydney. But on your point, I think it's
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Speaker 12: really sad that this hatred from overseas instead of coming
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Speaker 12: to Australia and saying, thank God, we live in a
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Speaker 12: country that has this beautiful beach, We've got a free
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Speaker 12: healthcare system, free schooling, we're very safe.
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Speaker 2: We are a mile away.
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Speaker 12: And I think that's what most Australians really think about
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Speaker 12: this shary We're lucky to live here. We can call
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Speaker 12: it out as we see it, but overall, the hate
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Speaker 12: we are seeing week in week out is just so
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Speaker 12: sad and so wrong, and it's now to a point
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Speaker 12: where I think, and the worst part about it is
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Speaker 12: some of the stuff we see if that was to
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Speaker 12: occur in the Middle East, those people would be arrested,
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Speaker 12: if not worse. And the fact that they take advantage
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Speaker 12: of our weak system and our freedom to sort of
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Speaker 12: spout these messages, I've got to be problem with that
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Speaker 12: as well.
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Speaker 8: But the problem is if the perite laws that had
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Speaker 8: been introduced to stop the climate action people had been
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Speaker 8: argued in the court with regard to the march on
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Speaker 8: the Harbor Bridge, there could have been a totally different result.
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Speaker 8: Why was it not argued? So if the laws aren't
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Speaker 8: strong enough, make them strong enough. Court law applies until
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Speaker 8: the legislature chooses to override ittly. And that's what we
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Speaker 8: have to remember. It is the Parliament that's in charge.
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Speaker 8: It is the Police Minister who has to give orders
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Speaker 8: to the Police Warce to carry out proper policing of
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Speaker 8: these things, and it's up to the premiere in this
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Speaker 8: state to make sure that his words are backed up
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Speaker 8: by reality and not just window dressing.
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Speaker 2: Look and the other thing that made me so angry.
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Speaker 8: When we had that march on the bridge, when we
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Speaker 8: had the other day on the thirty first, there were
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Speaker 8: three demonstrations in Sydney, three plus the marathon and the
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Speaker 8: only altercation occurred in a pub afterwards when people have
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Speaker 8: had rink or two. What is the footage we saw
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Speaker 8: all that stuff out of Melbourne where if you ask me,
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Speaker 8: it was deliberately engineered so there was fisticuffs and that's
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Speaker 8: what we see every time it's discussed.
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Speaker 12: And the cost to tax phase of this and the
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Speaker 12: waste of police resources is ridiculous and it's every weekend
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Speaker 12: and we're just allowing huge.
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Speaker 1: Waste of haven't seen just have to say, I haven't
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Speaker 1: seen any evidence that it was engineered. In Melbourne, the
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Speaker 1: fisticuffs that it wasn't just enough.
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Speaker 2: No, but in Sydney it didn't have didn't happen. It's
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Speaker 2: it's probably dealt with.
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Speaker 1: I want to talk about this big story today, Australia's
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Speaker 1: first treaty between a state government and Indigenous people introduced.
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Speaker 2: In Victorian Parliament. Now.
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Speaker 1: As part of it, that Alan government is required to
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Speaker 1: apologize to the first People's of Victoria and school children
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Speaker 1: will also be taught Indigenous truth telling at school now, James,
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Speaker 1: the cost is estimated to be about three hundred and
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Speaker 1: twenty six million dollars over eight years.
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Speaker 2: Now.
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Speaker 1: Australians voted against a Voice, but Victoria is pressing ahead
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Speaker 1: with this.
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Speaker 12: That's right, and there were three components to the Orlary statement.
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Speaker 12: From the heart this is about treaty. The cost of
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Speaker 12: three twenty six million over eight years I think will
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Speaker 12: be unders what it eventually is because there's talk about reparations,
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Speaker 12: there's talk about what this actually looks like in terms
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Speaker 12: of compensation. I mean the one thing that sort of
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Speaker 12: concerns me is that this is going to wash through
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Speaker 12: the entire government, from education to schools, to the way
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Speaker 12: that we deal with things, to the way that police
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Speaker 12: respond to things. And the concern I've got just from
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Speaker 12: the education thing is the idea that kids that are Caucasian,
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Speaker 12: that are white, that may not be indigenous are almost
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Speaker 12: shamed at school or feel regret or you know, disappointment
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Speaker 12: more than they do now, I might add, if they're
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Speaker 12: being taught some of the most lessons from our history.
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Speaker 12: So there's a concern there, But also there's a blank
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Speaker 12: check in regards to just how much compensation will have
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Speaker 12: to be paid.
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Speaker 1: I also want to speak about this in fighting in
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Speaker 1: the Liberal Party. We've seen Shadow Attorney General Julian, Lisa,
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Speaker 1: many others have come out now to say that just
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Speaker 1: into nine per Jibba Price needs to apologize for her
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Speaker 1: comments six days ago.
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Speaker 2: Have a look.
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Speaker 7: Said something in his view, Ie, Julian and Lisa apologized
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Speaker 7: on just Center Price's behalf.
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Speaker 2: So are you doing that as well?
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Speaker 8: Well?
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Speaker 5: If necessary?
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Speaker 4: Sure, she just needs to apologize, clear this up and
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Speaker 4: move on, doesn't she.
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Speaker 1: Yeah?
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Speaker 2: I think so, Chris.
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Speaker 4: She should apologize for her that has been caused.
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Speaker 1: So now this interview was six days ago. It was
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Speaker 1: last Wednesday, Bronwin. This is a gift to the government
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Speaker 1: that this is still a topic of conversation nearly.
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Speaker 2: A week on. It's been mishandled from the start. Well,
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Speaker 2: yes it has.
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Speaker 8: But if Jacinta should apologize, then so should the Labor
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Speaker 8: Party's polster, because this is where that story began. It
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Speaker 8: was the polster for the Labor Party who was scouting
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Speaker 8: about the number of people who were of Indian origin
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Speaker 8: who had voted for the Labor Party. Now I have
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Speaker 8: ringing in my ears always a conversation with Sigarfield Barwick
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Speaker 8: when I was a very young Aspird and he said,
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Speaker 8: the one thing you should remember is that Australia should
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Speaker 8: be doing things with India, and Indian people coming to
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Speaker 8: Australia is a great benefit. We share an understanding of
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Speaker 8: the common law, we share English as a language. And
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Speaker 8: he said there is a great future for Indian and
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Speaker 8: Australia together. And I believe that very much indeed, and
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Speaker 8: it's a story I told to President Modi when I
21:56
Speaker 8: met him when he visited. So I find this whole
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Speaker 8: discussion distasteful in the extreme, but it was the Labor
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Speaker 8: Party Polster who began this and he should be held
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Speaker 8: accountable as well. And that's for the Liberals who are
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Speaker 8: attacking from internally. There's something else bubbling along under there,
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Speaker 8: and at his time at the Liberal Party behaved like
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Speaker 8: the Labor Party can and not attack each other thinking
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Speaker 8: there might be personal advantage for them.
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Speaker 2: One of the views.
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Speaker 12: She should have apologized, and she did misspeak. But what
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Speaker 12: concerns me is the internal attacks that she has copped
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Speaker 12: since that. And there's been obviously things that were leaked
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Speaker 12: to Sky involving Alex Hawk and Alex Hawk on some
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Speaker 12: big clean up job. He's got a large Indian community
22:44
Speaker 12: in his seat of Mitchell, and then his public claims.
22:47
Speaker 12: You know that he was assuring people that just sinder
22:49
Speaker 12: Price was not racist. We know she isn't, and then since.
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Speaker 2: This suggesting she was correct.
22:54
Speaker 12: But there's been this big sort of save face where
22:57
Speaker 12: you know, you've had Mark Speakman and Susan Lee, you
23:00
Speaker 12: go to these Indian communities and say hey, by the way,
23:02
Speaker 12: we're not racist, we really really like you, and it's
23:05
Speaker 12: given Labor a free kick, and ultimately we've got a
23:08
Speaker 12: first Nation senator here who is not being supported by
23:10
Speaker 12: some of our own team, and that's.
23:12
Speaker 2: Not good either.
23:13
Speaker 1: Just before we go, I want to cover this letter,
23:16
Speaker 1: Donald Trump's infamous letter to Jeffrey Epstein for his fiftieth birthday.
23:21
Speaker 2: It has now emerged.
23:22
Speaker 1: Now Trump had claimed this letter didn't exist, and now
23:26
Speaker 1: lawyers for Epstein's estate have given it to Congress.
23:30
Speaker 2: This has been a big story because the Wall Street
23:32
Speaker 2: Journal first.
23:32
Speaker 1: Reported this in July, and they even reported that the
23:36
Speaker 1: letter had said, which it does, happy birthday and may
23:39
Speaker 1: every day be another wonderful secret. But the White House
23:43
Speaker 1: has slammed the letter even after its emergence. Statement today
23:48
Speaker 1: from Carolyn Levitt saying, as I have said all along,
23:51
Speaker 1: it's very clear President Trump did not draw this picture
23:54
Speaker 1: and he did not sign it. Now, Bromin, the reason
23:58
Speaker 1: this is a big story is because is that the
24:00
Speaker 1: Trump team had promised that all the Epstein files would
24:03
Speaker 1: be made public, the Epstein list would be made public.
24:07
Speaker 1: You have the Attorney General even referring to the list,
24:09
Speaker 1: and then suddenly there's been this change of position where
24:11
Speaker 1: there's no list that exists.
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Speaker 8: Well, there's no doubt about it. People are curious about
24:18
Speaker 8: just what did happen? Did he commit suicide?
24:22
Speaker 2: Was he murdered?
24:23
Speaker 8: How did he become a prominent person in polite society?
24:27
Speaker 8: What sort of background? What intrigued? And as for this,
24:31
Speaker 8: where's the rest.
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Speaker 2: Of the book? Where are the others?
24:34
Speaker 8: Well, if we're going to see this problem, let's see
24:36
Speaker 8: the whole thing. Is it's supposed to be a whole
24:37
Speaker 8: book that's bound, in which case, how come a page
24:40
Speaker 8: comes out? All I do know is that I've seen
24:44
Speaker 8: that amazing picture that hung in Epstein's property of Bill
24:50
Speaker 8: Clinton in a red dress in high heels, sitting on
24:53
Speaker 8: a couch. So I find it very bizarre.
24:58
Speaker 2: Did Trump do it? I have no idea.
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Speaker 8: Julaine Jeslaine says she doesn't remember it. Well, I wouldn't know.
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Speaker 8: But the long and the short of it is, let's
25:09
Speaker 8: see the rest of the book.
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Speaker 12: Indeed, final thought, well, it's a very deliberate leak and
25:16
Speaker 12: design to attack the president. But I'd like to see
25:18
Speaker 12: the whole thing. I think the problem is that Donald
25:20
Speaker 12: Trump was on this transparency campaign when he was campaigning
25:24
Speaker 12: and now has fallen short with this one, and even
25:27
Speaker 12: his most hardcore opponents are wondering why and it just
25:30
Speaker 12: creates conspiracies that might not even be there.
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Speaker 1: To measure the lease at all, not to mention he
25:36
Speaker 1: was taking legal action against the journal over this story
25:38
Speaker 1: that has now turned out to be true true James
25:41
Speaker 1: Willis brom and Bishop Love having you both on the shape.
25:43
Speaker 2: Thank you now.
25:45
Speaker 1: Mushroom murderer Aaron Patterson has been sentenced to life in
25:48
Speaker 1: prison with a thirty three year non parole period. Supreme
25:53
Speaker 1: Court Judge Christopher Bill was blunt in his assessment.
25:57
Speaker 4: I am satisfied that by the sixteenth of July twenty three,
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Speaker 4: when you unusually invited Simon, his parents, and his aunt
26:05
Speaker 4: and uncle to a lunch without the children to discuss
26:09
Speaker 4: your nonexistent medical issues, you did so with the intention
26:13
Speaker 4: of killing them all.
26:16
Speaker 1: Joining me now is the journalist who first broke this story,
26:19
Speaker 1: Associate editor at The Australian, John Ferguson. John, Great to
26:23
Speaker 1: see you again. Now there is speculation, or even perhaps
26:28
Speaker 1: more than that, that Aaron Patterson is set to lodge
26:31
Speaker 1: an appeal over her sentence. She's got twenty eight days
26:34
Speaker 1: remaining to submit it. Do you expect that she will appeal?
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Speaker 13: Yeah, she will appeal. As the information that I have,
26:42
Speaker 13: and basically she's consistently claimed her innocence. She pleaded not guilty,
26:51
Speaker 13: and it's on that basis, at least in part, that
26:54
Speaker 13: an appeal will be lodged. You know, things can change,
26:58
Speaker 13: of course, Shari, but that's as it stands today. There
27:01
Speaker 13: will be an appeal.
27:04
Speaker 1: I mean, for her to appeal, it still shows that
27:07
Speaker 1: she doesn't accept the consequences of her actions that you know,
27:11
Speaker 1: people died here.
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Speaker 13: Look, she's a really odd individual and whatever, frankly, from
27:19
Speaker 13: where I sit, whatever she might think in her own mind,
27:25
Speaker 13: there's no doubt that she killed those three people, and
27:27
Speaker 13: that the jury got it right and the justice system
27:30
Speaker 13: got it right.
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Speaker 7: She will.
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Speaker 13: Maybe in a state of disassociation or whatever's going through
27:37
Speaker 13: her mind. She's allowed to appeal, and she's allowed to
27:40
Speaker 13: spend more money, but I think I think she won't
27:43
Speaker 13: be out of jail until her eighties at the very earliest.
27:50
Speaker 1: You've also ridden this profile in the Australia on her
27:53
Speaker 1: power of attorney Allison Rose Priyor. You've observed that basically
27:58
Speaker 1: she's essentially the only person who was stuck by Aaron
28:01
Speaker 1: Patterson through this ideal. Can you tell us about this
28:05
Speaker 1: one supporter figure.
28:08
Speaker 13: Yeah, well, she's in her own way pretty interesting. She's
28:13
Speaker 13: met through the online community which Aaron Patterson was very
28:18
Speaker 13: active in with True Crime. She appears to have stuck
28:23
Speaker 13: by Aaron Patterson and was there court on many days
28:27
Speaker 13: in mare Will. She mixed frankly with journalists and others,
28:34
Speaker 13: but she didn't court attention, but she didn't shun it
28:39
Speaker 13: as well, and I got the impression that she was
28:43
Speaker 13: very much doing what Aaron Patterson wanted her to do.
28:48
Speaker 13: It's an unusual relationship. Aaron Patterson probably has I don't
28:52
Speaker 13: know a bit of money left over, but it's in
28:55
Speaker 13: the not much more than a million, I would be guessing.
29:00
Speaker 13: But this woman Ali Prior, Ali Rose Prior Now basically
29:07
Speaker 13: I assume I can't haven't seen the paperwork, but that
29:10
Speaker 13: she basically is doing a lot of the heavy lifting
29:13
Speaker 13: while Aaron Patterson is in jail.
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Speaker 1: I mean, if she does have a million still leftover,
29:19
Speaker 1: I mean, wouldn't she just be leaving it to her children.
29:22
Speaker 1: I don't know about you, but I often think about
29:24
Speaker 1: her children and how she could have done this to
29:26
Speaker 1: them as well.
29:28
Speaker 13: I look at that might well be her intention under
29:33
Speaker 13: the laws the victims of crime can claim compensation against
29:40
Speaker 13: Aaron Patterson. She has a house that's worth about one
29:43
Speaker 13: point three million. She should have more money kicking around,
29:46
Speaker 13: but she sold another property worth a million dollars. The
29:50
Speaker 13: question is how much the lawyers get. And I think
29:52
Speaker 13: it will have cost her in the order of a
29:55
Speaker 13: million dollars to run the defense, but that there might
29:59
Speaker 13: be a clay. I'm not sure, but they may be
30:01
Speaker 13: clash over who gets the money first, whether it's the
30:05
Speaker 13: lawyers or the victims of crime in this case, and
30:08
Speaker 13: there potentially quite a few victims.
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Speaker 1: Showing no Indeed, there are John Ferguson exceptional reporting over
30:15
Speaker 1: the past couple of years.
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Speaker 2: Thank you for.
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Speaker 13: Joining us, Thank you very much.
30:19
Speaker 2: Now still to come.
30:21
Speaker 1: You won't believe the amount of money Qatar has been
30:23
Speaker 1: donating undocumented to universities globally. A world leading expert will
30:28
Speaker 1: join me shortly. Plus Tunisia denies a drone hit Greta
30:32
Speaker 1: Thunberg's Gaza flotilla. That denial from Tunisia Well, Cameron Milner
30:37
Speaker 1: and Holly Hughes will join me next.
30:44
Speaker 2: Welcome back.
30:44
Speaker 1: Were joining me now for our political panel. Former Labor
30:47
Speaker 1: State Director Cameron Milner and former Liberal Senator Holly Hughes.
30:51
Speaker 1: Great to see you both, Cameron, and I want to
30:53
Speaker 1: start with your piece in the Nightly this week where
30:56
Speaker 1: you've criticized the Coalition for having this public war over
31:00
Speaker 1: zero and you say it's an act of electoral self
31:03
Speaker 1: harm that will not only let Albanezi completely off the hook,
31:07
Speaker 1: but may well condemn the party to electoral irrelevance even
31:11
Speaker 1: beyond the next election. And actually John Howard said to
31:15
Speaker 1: me last night that the party needs to resolve its
31:18
Speaker 1: differences on net zero and get to a position quickly.
31:24
Speaker 14: Look, I agree, and I think John How's right in
31:26
Speaker 14: that regard, but he's not right in terms of saying
31:28
Speaker 14: they should abandoned net zero by twenty fifty. I mean,
31:30
Speaker 14: there was Scott Morrison's policy, it's Peter Dutton's policy, and
31:33
Speaker 14: even goodness to take that Tasmani Liberal government wants net
31:36
Speaker 14: zero by twenty thirty. That's their government policy. That christ
31:39
Speaker 14: of fully l andp government recommitted to net zero by
31:41
Speaker 14: twenty fifty, even after their state conference sent a motion
31:44
Speaker 14: to the federal government. So no, it's tearing the Liberal
31:47
Speaker 14: Party apart. They're not winning any urban seats. The last
31:49
Speaker 14: election they got two urban seats and the whole of
31:52
Speaker 14: Australia two seats. They lost the rest of the Labor
31:54
Speaker 14: Party and of the Teals. It's all on climate and
31:57
Speaker 14: the reality chari is over half of Australia voting cohort
32:00
Speaker 14: are under forty and the Liberals are coming third third
32:04
Speaker 14: on primaries that group, and the number issue for under
32:06
Speaker 14: forties is climate change.
32:08
Speaker 1: I mean, I disagree with you that climate was an
32:10
Speaker 1: issue at the last election. Just before I go to Holly,
32:13
Speaker 1: let's have a look at Howard's argument on net zero.
32:18
Speaker 6: There's got to be a focus on policy differences and
32:21
Speaker 6: the barnacles, as I used to call them, they've got to.
32:24
Speaker 11: Be got rid of.
32:25
Speaker 6: I mean, if there's a difference of opinion on net zero,
32:28
Speaker 6: let us resolve it quickly.
32:31
Speaker 1: And he then went on to say that he's not
32:33
Speaker 1: persuaded that the action on net zero is worth the
32:38
Speaker 1: price that the country is paying. Holly, what do you
32:41
Speaker 1: think here, because there is this argument between you know,
32:44
Speaker 1: the need to win back seats from the tills, as
32:46
Speaker 1: Camrage is referenced, but then the other argument that John
32:50
Speaker 1: Howard put forward that the party needs to have a
32:52
Speaker 1: point of difference, and he implied it should be coming
32:56
Speaker 1: out against net zero.
32:57
Speaker 3: It was a great interview, by the way, last night
32:59
Speaker 3: with mister how I really enjoy watching that. And I've
33:01
Speaker 3: got to say climate change net zero being a barnacle.
33:04
Speaker 3: I feel like it's now almost become an anchor. It's
33:06
Speaker 3: been allowed to stay on the edge of that boat
33:08
Speaker 3: for so long.
33:10
Speaker 2: I got my energy bill this week.
33:12
Speaker 3: We nearly had a heart attack. And this is going
33:14
Speaker 3: to be happening in more and more households. This race
33:18
Speaker 3: to renewables is costing every day Australians so much money.
33:23
Speaker 3: I feel like net zero is almost becoming the red
33:26
Speaker 3: herring in this debate. This Albanezy government is not going
33:30
Speaker 3: to make the forty three percent reduction target by twenty
33:32
Speaker 3: thirty and if things don't pick up considerably, they're still
33:35
Speaker 3: going to be the government when that comes around, unfortunately,
33:39
Speaker 3: and so there'll be very clear evidence that their plan
33:41
Speaker 3: isn't working. And they're about to announce twenty thirty five target,
33:45
Speaker 3: which could be considerably higher, and they're never going to
33:48
Speaker 3: reach that. So I think that the Coalition, if they're serious,
33:51
Speaker 3: forget about and net zero is a terminology because most people,
33:55
Speaker 3: when you get down to it, don't even understand our
33:57
Speaker 3: emissions haven't changed because coal firepower doesn't go on and
34:02
Speaker 3: off when renewables don't work. The reason our emissions aren't
34:05
Speaker 3: changing is coal has to keep burning. That's just the
34:08
Speaker 3: reality of how the energy market works. But if Australians
34:12
Speaker 3: understand half of their bill is distribution, half of the
34:16
Speaker 3: bill is coming from the absolute race to renewables and
34:18
Speaker 3: costs that is banks put onto them and their households
34:22
Speaker 3: and their businesses by this ridiculous government's race to renewables,
34:26
Speaker 3: while the rest of the world's walking away from it.
34:28
Speaker 3: I just think if you get bogged down in one
34:30
Speaker 3: term and one term only of net zero, it's not
34:33
Speaker 3: going to go anywhere. Australians cannot afford this, and that
34:36
Speaker 3: needs to be the conversation.
34:37
Speaker 1: I mean, the Coalition does need to arrive at a
34:40
Speaker 1: policy that can have.
34:41
Speaker 3: A policy position, but it doesn't have to be yes
34:43
Speaker 3: or no to net zero. It can be we want
34:46
Speaker 3: to see a renewable reduction or renewables rolled out in
34:51
Speaker 3: a way that makes them viable, in a way that
34:53
Speaker 3: makes them affordable.
34:54
Speaker 2: We want to see it.
34:55
Speaker 3: No one is talking about nuclear, whereas every other advanced
34:58
Speaker 3: in the economy or in the world is relying on
35:00
Speaker 3: nuclear for power. Just lift the moratorium, people, as a market.
35:04
Speaker 2: Decide exactly couldn't agree more.
35:07
Speaker 1: Let's turn to Greta Thunberg's latest PR stunt, and it's
35:10
Speaker 1: more headlines already now. They claim that one of their
35:13
Speaker 1: boats was struck by a drone. Yet we have had
35:18
Speaker 1: a statement from Tunisia's National Guard denying the claims. They
35:23
Speaker 1: say that no drones have been detected. So Cameron, what's
35:29
Speaker 1: going on here? You think Tunisian National Guard would know
35:33
Speaker 1: if there was a drone?
35:36
Speaker 2: You would, wouldn't you?
35:37
Speaker 14: And look, this is just another great stunt, and I
35:39
Speaker 14: think you're right, it's a PR stunt. I mean, Greta
35:41
Speaker 14: was a little irritant when she's death stared Trump that
35:43
Speaker 14: many years ago and has had dropped off our radar,
35:45
Speaker 14: and now it's come back as a cause celeb. I mean,
35:48
Speaker 14: nothing to do with Gardens, It's got nothing to do
35:50
Speaker 14: with him in a humanity. It's got everything to do
35:52
Speaker 14: with Greta and getting greater headlines. And this is what's regrettable,
35:55
Speaker 14: you know, in terms of how she's handled herself.
35:58
Speaker 1: I mean, you just wonder if you can't believe anything
36:01
Speaker 1: she's saying on this issue, because what she is saying
36:04
Speaker 1: is so preposterous. We've got a clip if we want
36:08
Speaker 1: to play it. Can we play what Gretta is saying on.
36:11
Speaker 2: This on this the little spark, the little flat, let's
36:14
Speaker 2: have a look. Okay, well, come back to it in
36:18
Speaker 2: a second.
36:18
Speaker 3: Honestly, it looked like someone you know, set a zippy
36:22
Speaker 3: lighter off, you know, like and opened up. Maybe they
36:24
Speaker 3: were having a fag out on the deck.
36:25
Speaker 2: I don't know.
36:26
Speaker 3: It certainly didn't look like an explosion. And how many
36:29
Speaker 3: CFCs were used in that fire extinguisher that they went
36:32
Speaker 3: and raced for. I mean, you know that might have
36:34
Speaker 3: caused one of the storms. We're going to block them.
36:38
Speaker 2: Clip. Now, let's have a look. There's the fire on
36:46
Speaker 2: the front deck.
36:50
Speaker 12: We've been ht where's the fire extinguished?
36:53
Speaker 6: Shot?
36:56
Speaker 1: They could have been caused by anything. Now, let's return
36:59
Speaker 1: to my comments at the start of the show tonight
37:02
Speaker 1: when I played some of Albanize's tiktoks that he did
37:06
Speaker 1: with a pair of girls they call themselves Party Girl podcasters. Now,
37:11
Speaker 1: he filmed this on the day that he was asked
37:14
Speaker 1: to condemn Daniel Andrews for his China stunt. It was
37:17
Speaker 1: also in the same parliamentary week where he didn't find
37:21
Speaker 1: the time to meet with Ellie Sharrabi. I mean, Cameron,
37:24
Speaker 1: why is the Prime Minister recording silly videos like this?
37:31
Speaker 14: Or because the TikTok PM clocked off after got ninety
37:33
Speaker 14: four seats Shari, This bloke thinks it's all kicks and
37:36
Speaker 14: giggles government. You know, he's not ever been He's actually
37:38
Speaker 14: never done a hard day's work in his life. I mean,
37:40
Speaker 14: he's been pretty part time PM in the first term
37:43
Speaker 14: and now he thinks he can to get away with
37:45
Speaker 14: doing TikTok on the way to work. Well, sorry, it's
37:47
Speaker 14: a real job being the Prime Minister of Australia.
37:50
Speaker 2: Holly. In the video, you know, he's pretending he's acting
37:56
Speaker 2: out a scene from Legally Blin ruined that movie.
37:59
Speaker 8: For me.
38:00
Speaker 3: Aside from the fact I don't like him anyway, the
38:03
Speaker 3: fact that he has ruined a really great film has
38:06
Speaker 3: upset me no end. I mean, please, can he leave
38:08
Speaker 3: those sorts of things alone? If he touches mean girls,
38:11
Speaker 3: we're going to have a serious problem. But this is
38:13
Speaker 3: embarrassing and I hope you know who is letting him
38:18
Speaker 3: do this.
38:19
Speaker 2: I'm sure Cameron has chief of staff wouldn't have said.
38:21
Speaker 3: You know what, Bell, I think this is a crackingly
38:23
Speaker 3: good idea.
38:24
Speaker 2: Get out there and make yourself look like a.
38:26
Speaker 3: Moron on a Chinese video platform. I mean, this is insane.
38:32
Speaker 3: And it was such a serious job for serious people.
38:36
Speaker 3: And I know I can sit here with you a
38:39
Speaker 3: joke about things, but when I was in the Senate
38:41
Speaker 3: and when I was doing inquiries and particularly preparing for
38:45
Speaker 3: Senate estimates, it is a very serious job, whether you
38:48
Speaker 3: were in government or opposition, whether you are trying to
38:51
Speaker 3: govern the country or holding the government to account. And
38:54
Speaker 3: the fact that he thinks hanging out with two dolly
38:56
Speaker 3: birds making fun videos is just it's demeaning to the
39:01
Speaker 3: whole Australian population, undermines the role of Prime minister, and
39:05
Speaker 3: shows quite simply why he is not up to this job.
39:08
Speaker 2: No, he's not.
39:08
Speaker 1: I mean, Camerin you just said before that he's lazy.
39:12
Speaker 1: You obviously know him well. I mean you're Bill Shortton's
39:15
Speaker 1: chief of staff, So is that really true? Is he
39:19
Speaker 1: just not a hard worker?
39:22
Speaker 2: I think he's.
39:23
Speaker 14: Got disdained for the role. I mean he actually, you know,
39:26
Speaker 14: says he doesn't really want to be PM, never really
39:28
Speaker 14: wanted the role. Well, I'm sorry. I sought out two
39:31
Speaker 14: leadership challenges where he tried to take Bill out in
39:33
Speaker 14: twenty sixteen, so he wanted the job then. But no,
39:35
Speaker 14: I mean, this is a guy who doesn't actually do
39:37
Speaker 14: the hard work, doesn't get across the policy brief, isn't
39:40
Speaker 14: across the detail, and is actually not a good PM.
39:44
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd agree he's not a good PM.
39:46
Speaker 1: And I have heard about people who go and have
39:48
Speaker 1: meetings with him interest groups or lobby groups or the like,
39:52
Speaker 1: and he can't engage in a conversation about the topic.
39:56
Speaker 1: You'll see he'll say you need to go and speak
39:57
Speaker 1: to the relevant minister because he's just not at all
40:00
Speaker 1: across the detail, but happy to do a conversation giving
40:04
Speaker 1: relationship advice with podcasters.
40:06
Speaker 3: That's very very important, I know, exactly.
40:12
Speaker 2: Intelligence.
40:12
Speaker 1: Yes, indeed, all right, Holly Hughes, caraen Milner, thank you
40:15
Speaker 1: so much.
40:17
Speaker 2: Now still to come.
40:18
Speaker 1: Concerns mounted the possibility of new tax hikes for businesses
40:22
Speaker 1: plus qatars undocumented cash to universities around the world has
40:27
Speaker 1: been exposed by my next guest, that's after the break.
40:35
Speaker 2: Welcome back.
40:36
Speaker 1: Well, when we saw college encampments arise globally after October seven,
40:40
Speaker 1: there was a stunning lack of leadership from university chiefs.
40:45
Speaker 2: This comes as less.
40:46
Speaker 1: Of a surprise when you learn the extent of funding
40:49
Speaker 1: from Qatar and Muslim Brotherhood aligned groups. Now, the Institute
40:53
Speaker 1: for the Study of Global Anti Semitism and Policy has
40:56
Speaker 1: uncovered one hundred billion dollars worth of undocumented donations by
41:02
Speaker 1: Qatar to American universities. Charles Small is the director of
41:06
Speaker 1: this organization and he joins me now, welcome to Australia.
41:10
Speaker 7: Thank you very much for having me now first.
41:12
Speaker 1: To understand the significance of this. Qatar has been funding Hamas.
41:17
Speaker 2: And provides a safe haven to the billionaires.
41:20
Speaker 7: Correct, So, Katar is a small country of less than
41:24
Speaker 7: three hundred thousand citizens, but it's one of the wealthiest
41:26
Speaker 7: countries in the world, and it has it has a
41:29
Speaker 7: spiritual oath to the Muslim Brotherhood. And I think for
41:32
Speaker 7: your listeners, it's important to understand that the Muslim Brotherhood
41:36
Speaker 7: is a small reactionary entity that started one hundred years
41:39
Speaker 7: ago in Egypt, which fuses Nazism with a perversion of
41:43
Speaker 7: the Great Religion of Islam. The Katari regime has a
41:46
Speaker 7: spiritual oath, it's called a baya, and the Katari royal
41:50
Speaker 7: family follows all the religious edicts, rulings and fatwas of
41:54
Speaker 7: the Brotherhood. The Brotherhood is intent and only destroying Israel,
41:58
Speaker 7: but also destroying Western democratic countries as well. So Qatar
42:03
Speaker 7: houses the leadership of the Muslim Brotherhood and still houses
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Speaker 7: the leadership of Ramas and funds Ramas, which is the
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Speaker 7: Palestinian chapter of the Muslim brother.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and of course they live in luxury and wealth
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Speaker 1: and extravagance. So how much influence does Qatar have on
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Speaker 1: Western universities?
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Speaker 2: What have you uncovered?
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Speaker 7: So since October the seventh, twenty twenty three week come
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Speaker 7: out at I isgap with fifteen reports dealing with the
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Speaker 7: influence of the Muslim Brotherhood, mainly in American higher education.
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Speaker 7: And we found that the Brotherhood, which is represented by
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Speaker 7: the Royal family of Qatar, the Qataris have given over
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Speaker 7: one hundred billion dollars in undocumented money to American universities.
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Speaker 7: We found ten billion, for example at Cornell University. We
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Speaker 7: found one point three billion at Texas A and M.
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Speaker 7: And we uncovered the contract that Texas A and M
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Speaker 7: had with the Katari Foundation, and in that contract, Texas
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Speaker 7: A and M gave all the intellectual property rights to
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Speaker 7: TAR for five hundred and two research projects wow and
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Speaker 7: fifty eight we're dealing with dual use military purposes and
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Speaker 7: thirteen research projects was dual use military nuclear research. So
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Speaker 7: it's very concerning. Less than two weeks after we publish
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Speaker 7: our report, Texas A and M closed their campus in Qatar,
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Speaker 7: and we're calling on the Department of Energy in the
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Speaker 7: United States to do an investigation into this relationship.
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Speaker 2: That's incredible.
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Speaker 1: I actually did a similar investigation into a program running
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Speaker 1: in China, the Chinese Thousand Talents, because it's this theft
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Speaker 1: of intellectual property. So the links between the student activist
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Speaker 1: groups and the Muslim brotherhood that your organization has investigated,
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Speaker 1: can you tell us about that, how the student activist
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Speaker 1: groups are linked to Muslim brotherhood?
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Speaker 7: Right, So it's very important. So on the one hand,
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Speaker 7: Quitar is giving money to prestigious universities, funding academic departments
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Speaker 7: and research institute at Ivy League Universities, at Auxbridge, at
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Speaker 7: the Sarbonne at top universities around the Western world, and
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Speaker 7: they're also funding the sort of shock troops on campus
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Speaker 7: student groups like SJP Students for Justice in Palestine and
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Speaker 7: the American Muslims for Palestine, which are offshoots of the
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Speaker 7: Muslim Brotherhood. So they're giving money to prestigious universities, teaching
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Speaker 7: lies in the classroom and creating an environment on campus
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Speaker 7: which is hostile to people who care about democracy. Jewish
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Speaker 7: students are being treated poorly, and faculty in students, and
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Speaker 7: it goes from the classroom to the encampments to our streets.
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Speaker 7: And we should take a second to reflect on the
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Speaker 7: fact that some of the best students who are coming
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Speaker 7: out of the best universities in the world are coming
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Speaker 7: out not protecting democratic rights and freedoms and the rights
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Speaker 7: of women are gay people, but they're supporting people like
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Speaker 7: Hamas which are out are clearly out to exterminate Jews
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Speaker 7: and destroy democracy. So something is being impacted in our
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Speaker 7: education which we're trying to uncover. And I think it's
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Speaker 7: also important note that I think universities have really a
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Speaker 7: sacred duty because they're training young Australians and Canadians and
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Speaker 7: British people and Americans to be citizens. And if they're
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Speaker 7: taking money from entities that call for the extermination of Jews,
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Speaker 7: the subjugation of women, the murder of gay people, it's outlandish.
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Speaker 1: No, indeed, a foreign influence impacting on Western values, American values.
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Speaker 1: Just finally, you've examined the link between the South African
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Speaker 1: A and C which took Israel to the ICJ and Iran.
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Speaker 2: What's the link there?
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Speaker 7: So this is really a tragic situation. So I was
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Speaker 7: actually in the eighties and nineties the chairperson of the
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Speaker 7: African National Congress Solidarity Committee. I was fighting apartheid and
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Speaker 7: I know the South African society quite well. I worked
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Speaker 7: with the leadership of the AMC in the eighties and nineties.
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Speaker 7: The A and C was in deep financial trouble recently
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Speaker 7: and they were mysteriously bailed out, and we know in
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Speaker 7: our report that they were bailed out by the Qataris
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Speaker 7: and the Iranians.
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Speaker 2: Wow.
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Speaker 7: And as soon as the ANC had money, they took
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Speaker 7: the court case to the International Criminal Court in the Hague,
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Speaker 7: and they tarnished Israel's reputation as being in apartheid state.
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Speaker 7: A great propaganda coup for the only democracy in the
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Speaker 7: region and a true ally of Western democratic countries.
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Speaker 2: All from a shortage.
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Speaker 1: You're funding Charles's absolutely incredible work and I'm so glad
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Speaker 1: you were here to explain it all to us. And
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Speaker 1: I can't wait to see the reports your organization does
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Speaker 1: next have it.
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Speaker 2: Say, rest of your trip in Australia. Thank you, thank you.
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Speaker 1: Now still to come, Concern is mounting that Labor is
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Speaker 1: set to introduce a cash flow.
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Speaker 2: Tax on business. That's next.
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Speaker 1: Welcome back in joining me now is the Counsel of
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Speaker 1: Small Business Organizations Chair Matthew Addison.
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Speaker 2: Matthew, thanks for your time.
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Speaker 1: Now, the business sector is once again coming up against
46:56
Speaker 1: the alban Ezy government.
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Speaker 2: It's urging Labor to rule out new cash flow tax. Now.
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Speaker 1: The government has been openly flirting with the Productivity Commission's
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Speaker 1: recommendation of an increase in cash flow taxes for companies
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Speaker 1: with turnovers more than a billion dollars. So how damaging
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Speaker 1: would a cash flow tax be?
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Speaker 11: Good to see you, good to talk. Look, the invention
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Speaker 11: of a new concept of tax for Australia is just
47:26
Speaker 11: not needed. They're not talking about taking away income tax.
47:30
Speaker 11: They're talking about creating a new regime, a new set
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Speaker 11: of taxes, something that from a small business point of
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Speaker 11: view and large business point of view, you would have
47:39
Speaker 11: to understand the new definitions. The Australian Tax Office would
47:44
Speaker 11: have to implement a whole new system in order to
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Speaker 11: capture the right data, apply the right definitions and tax business.
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Speaker 11: The cash flow tax and its idea is to somehow
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Speaker 11: incentivize investment of capital. We don't think it's needed. We
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Speaker 11: already have mechanisms like the instant asset ride off. It
48:06
Speaker 11: should be made permanent, not an annual year by year
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Speaker 11: pre budget or election commitment that gets made. We should
48:14
Speaker 11: have a better investment allowance. We should also revisit the
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Speaker 11: Research and Development administration and have those achieve the purpose
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Speaker 11: of investing capital in Australia.
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Speaker 1: I mean, do you think it would also impact on
48:30
Speaker 1: businesses choosing to operate in Australia if there is an
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Speaker 1: additional cash flow tax when already we have among the
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Speaker 1: highest tax rates globally.
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Speaker 11: You're right on the point. We already have very high
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Speaker 11: tax rates. We have very large companies in Australia saying
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Speaker 11: we will not invest in Australia. We have international companies
48:51
Speaker 11: saying they won't invest in Australia. From a small business angle,
48:55
Speaker 11: we need a very vibrant big business environment. We buy
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Speaker 11: off our big business and we supply to big business.
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Speaker 11: These higher tax rates, the threats of increased tax rates
49:09
Speaker 11: big business. The cashflow tax in effect becomes a super
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Speaker 11: profits tax. We don't see the thing for it.
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Speaker 1: Indeed, indeed so worrying, Matthew, thank you very much for
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Speaker 1: joining us. Thank you such a worry all these new taxes.
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Speaker 1: So we've got time for today. I'll see you tomorrow
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Speaker 1: at eight. And here is Denika Digiorgio.