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- 0:00Speaker 1: Welcome to another episode of Busts Went the Boys.
- 0:02Speaker 2: One thing we got to do a better job of
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- 0:26Speaker 2: This episode specifically number one shout out to all the
- 0:28Speaker 2: Michigan fans out there.
- 0:29Speaker 1: Congratulations to you guys. Taylor and I. We unpack a
- 0:32Speaker 1: lot of stuff.
- 0:32Speaker 2: It's a little bit of a therapy session for the boys,
- 0:34Speaker 2: been due to my lack of support throughout the year.
- 0:37Speaker 1: We also talk about the We also talk about the
- 0:40Speaker 1: NFL playoffs.
- 0:41Speaker 2: We talk about a lot of different things, but subscribe,
- 0:44Speaker 2: Enjoy the episode, and as always, big hugs, tiny kisses.
- 0:50Speaker 3: Hang in with this.
- 0:55Speaker 4: Bet again, no woman's gonna tell us.
- 1:04Speaker 5: Not.
- 1:05Speaker 6: We're here.
- 1:09Speaker 4: Just drinking beer, making Nan baby, I'm hanging with the Fellers,
- 1:18Speaker 4: blessing with the boys.
- 1:21Speaker 7: Bro.
- 1:23Speaker 6: Yeah, there it is.
- 1:26Speaker 8: We can break all that down later because it's January ninth,
- 1:28Speaker 8: twenty twenty four. If you're watching this, this is the
- 1:31Speaker 8: day after well this is coming out tonight. Yeah, day
- 1:35Speaker 8: after University of Michigan is twenty twenty four National champions
- 1:39Speaker 8: Absolutely incredible. If you were gracious enough to join us
- 1:43Speaker 8: on the stream yesterday on the YouTube channel, we had
- 1:46Speaker 8: all the boys in there. The boy got banged up.
- 1:48Speaker 8: He became very useless after the third quarter. I would say,
- 1:51Speaker 8: maybe like halfway through the third quarter, boys were having
- 1:53Speaker 8: a blast of the chat. Coops in the corner getting excited. Coop,
- 1:56Speaker 8: by the way, our new addition will introduce him in
- 1:58Speaker 8: a second. But brother, the feeling of winning a national championship,
- 2:03Speaker 8: there's no one else in here other than Garrett that's
- 2:06Speaker 8: really felt this. And I was thinking about it.
- 2:08Speaker 1: Like, hey, Coop, now, hang on.
- 2:09Speaker 2: He might have went to Oklahoma State, he might be
- 2:10Speaker 2: an Oklahoma State cowboy, but apparently he's a Michigan fan.
- 2:13Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, yeah, okay, but I'm saying no one
- 2:15Speaker 8: has felt this in the past. Excuse me. I can't
- 2:18Speaker 8: imagine you're like the feeling I got last night. The
- 2:25Speaker 8: feeling I got last night was so weird because I
- 2:27Speaker 8: was like, obviously so stoked the boys won. But in
- 2:30Speaker 8: my head, I'm like, I didn't do shit other than
- 2:32Speaker 8: just get excited for the boys over and over again.
- 2:34Speaker 8: But the feeling is such a unique one compared to
- 2:37Speaker 8: play any football game or anything like that. I can't
- 2:38Speaker 8: imagine feeling like that. What seven times in twelve years?
- 2:44Speaker 1: Here we go? He said, Yeah, I mean it's fun.
- 2:48Speaker 1: You did a lot of work on your own too.
- 2:50Speaker 8: You fought hard, boy.
- 2:52Speaker 1: Why now you see why we say we.
- 2:54Speaker 8: Yeah, no, I listen at it. Now. There's been a
- 2:57Speaker 8: lot of like I don't know if the word is
- 2:59Speaker 8: revelations or epiphanies. Yea growth, But I've truly like had
- 3:04Speaker 8: to dive headfirst into being a fan this year when
- 3:06Speaker 8: we had this conversation Jackie at LSU, Florida, and you
- 3:10Speaker 8: were growing, you were coming. You and I were going
- 3:12Speaker 8: opposite ways. I was getting more passionate and you were
- 3:14Speaker 8: learning how to not let life take you by the
- 3:16Speaker 8: balls every time the balls went downhill. Both growth in
- 3:19Speaker 8: different different areas, trying to find a little bit of balance.
- 3:22Speaker 8: But it is interesting because I did say in the past,
- 3:24Speaker 8: you wear a jersey. I sold Chris Delia's bit, you
- 3:26Speaker 8: wear a jersey, you get to get fucked by that guy.
- 3:27Speaker 8: Don't believe that anymore. I used to think, like, this
- 3:30Speaker 8: is crazy that we say we when you don't play
- 3:31Speaker 8: on the team.
- 3:32Speaker 1: Now I get it.
- 3:33Speaker 8: We won a national championship. It's like, it's like the
- 3:37Speaker 8: tribal mentality of being a part of something even though
- 3:40Speaker 8: you're not directly playing in the game or directly doing anything.
- 3:43Speaker 8: It's beautiful and I didn't understand it, and I am
- 3:46Speaker 8: so fired up about this, so I just it just
- 3:50Speaker 8: fires me up.
- 3:50Speaker 6: Man.
- 3:51Speaker 2: I don't know what else to say. The game was
- 3:52Speaker 2: dominant at one point of the game. Did it started
- 3:54Speaker 2: to sink in that you were about to be a
- 3:56Speaker 2: national champion?
- 3:59Speaker 8: I don't know, because it was it was difficult for
- 4:02Speaker 8: me to really soak it in because I'm sitting there
- 4:07Speaker 8: and trying to enjoy the win, and I have my
- 4:09Speaker 8: literal best friend in the corner going come on, Huskies,
- 4:13Speaker 8: damn you gotta convert on that day. What are we doing?
- 4:16Speaker 8: I'm just lily you. You you set out to break
- 4:20Speaker 8: me down, and it was almost working, Like it.
- 4:23Speaker 1: Was truly almost working.
- 4:24Speaker 2: Was ever in a real position last night to navigate that,
- 4:27Speaker 2: I think I was commenting on good defensive plays by Michigan.
- 4:31Speaker 1: Yeah, but yeah, I definitely wanted it to be just
- 4:34Speaker 1: a remotely better game.
- 4:36Speaker 8: And you wanted you wanted the Huskies to win, and
- 4:38Speaker 8: when the Huskis would make a play, you're like, oh,
- 4:40Speaker 8: I love four, two, and then five would make a play.
- 4:42Speaker 8: But that's a really good defensive play. Yeah, that's a
- 4:44Speaker 8: good play. Like more of like an objectively speaking about it,
- 4:47Speaker 8: which did I'll be honest, it did kind of. It
- 4:50Speaker 8: nicked me a couple of times. But all that being said,
- 4:53Speaker 8: like when we when they were marching down, because I
- 4:55Speaker 8: think it was a just a two score game, but
- 4:58Speaker 8: there's like eight minutes left, right they started marching down
- 5:01Speaker 8: and zero had that pick. It was like, there's no
- 5:03Speaker 8: coming back from this. There's it was and there are
- 5:06Speaker 8: so many opportunities that the Huskies had, Like seventy three
- 5:09Speaker 8: might be on suicide watch right now. Their right tackle.
- 5:12Speaker 1: He had a tough game.
- 5:13Speaker 8: He had a tough Yeah, he had a massive he
- 5:16Speaker 8: had multiple false starts, a massive holding call that took
- 5:19Speaker 8: away an X play when they were literally in the game.
- 5:21Speaker 8: It was seventeen ten at that point and they could
- 5:23Speaker 8: have gone and capitalize. But watching Michigan and we can
- 5:26Speaker 8: get we'll definitely get into the allegations, we'll definitely get
- 5:29Speaker 8: into what's probably going to happen this offseason. We can
- 5:32Speaker 8: have a little fun with that. But the culture of
- 5:34Speaker 8: that team, and I said it last week after Alabama,
- 5:38Speaker 8: is so beautiful because they work together. They don't point fingers,
- 5:42Speaker 8: they don't sit there and say like, oh, you should
- 5:44Speaker 8: have been here, and they're like the bad play, they
- 5:46Speaker 8: move on to the next play. They stick together. You
- 5:48Speaker 8: can tell there's there's a unique bond that I never
- 5:52Speaker 8: was able to see in college that they just truly have.
- 5:54Speaker 8: The They were fighting for each other, not just the
- 5:58Speaker 8: names in the back of their jersey, and I think
- 5:59Speaker 8: that is so awesome. And then obviously Penis is an
- 6:03Speaker 8: elite quarterback, but towards the end of the game, when
- 6:05Speaker 8: you're seeing Penix and he is in the position he
- 6:08Speaker 8: was like holding his side, you can tell he just
- 6:10Speaker 8: looks defeated as a defense. If you're able to see
- 6:15Speaker 8: that on the other side, and hopefully I'm not hoping
- 6:17Speaker 8: he's injured, but just to see him obviously bothered by
- 6:21Speaker 8: the rush, obviously bothered about constantly taking hits the entire game.
- 6:24Speaker 8: That has got to be like the best feeling as
- 6:26Speaker 8: a defensive player to see like, oh, we're breaking this
- 6:28Speaker 8: cat down.
- 6:28Speaker 2: Right and getting home with four or five guys like
- 6:32Speaker 2: just order basically Pennis.
- 6:34Speaker 1: He was missing a few, but I love the way
- 6:36Speaker 1: he was operating.
- 6:37Speaker 2: I haven't really get like, you know, PAC twelve is
- 6:39Speaker 2: on the West coast, so they're always like the latest games.
- 6:41Speaker 2: I never got into, like truly dial in and watch
- 6:44Speaker 2: him and the way he moves, moves around the pocket
- 6:46Speaker 2: and you know, goes through his progression and just releases
- 6:49Speaker 2: the ball.
- 6:50Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be good in the league.
- 6:51Speaker 8: Yeah. Is it Joe Klatt. That's the guy that does
- 6:53Speaker 8: the announcing. He's he's got a podcast, he's got a show.
- 6:56Speaker 8: And when I was like trying to kind of jump
- 6:58Speaker 8: on and learn a little bit more about Washington, people
- 7:00Speaker 8: are talking about Washington, Michigan. He Joe is very much
- 7:04Speaker 8: like if you watched the semi final game and thought,
- 7:07Speaker 8: oh wow, Penix maybe should have been more in the
- 7:09Speaker 8: Heisman race than he actually was. He's like, then you
- 7:11Speaker 8: didn't watch Washington football, because the guy likes the way
- 7:15Speaker 8: he said is like he puts the ball in places
- 7:18Speaker 8: just for his receivers to give his receivers the best opportunity.
- 7:21Speaker 8: He called that leverage. He talks about how his pitch count,
- 7:24Speaker 8: which I didn't see the National Championship game because he
- 7:25Speaker 8: was doing piss missiles over the middle, in shallow crosses
- 7:28Speaker 8: and over the flat. But he said his pitchcount, he
- 7:30Speaker 8: has touched on the ball, He's got an incredible accuracy,
- 7:32Speaker 8: his ability to move in the pocket, like saying the
- 7:35Speaker 8: world to Pendix to the point where like if Pennix
- 7:37Speaker 8: doesn't play for Washington, a team that's like a PAC
- 7:40Speaker 8: twelve team that's playing at night and we're all kind
- 7:42Speaker 8: of like going to bed and wind down from essentially
- 7:44Speaker 8: the SEC game of the week that usually has played
- 7:46Speaker 8: on Saturday nights, then he's probably gonna win the Highs.
- 7:49Speaker 8: He probably wins the Heisman over Jaden Daniels. Is that
- 7:52Speaker 8: who it was? So it was he was electric, like, yeah,
- 7:56Speaker 8: you know, I'm not saying that to take away from him.
- 7:58Speaker 8: I'm saying that more. I'm not trying to roll a
- 8:00Speaker 8: little strike in there, like.
- 8:01Speaker 2: If he was operating in the SEC or big ten, uh,
- 8:05Speaker 2: he would probably get the Heisman.
- 8:06Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, if he was playing more of those like yeah,
- 8:09Speaker 8: the big Noons, those three thirty games over that, like
- 8:11Speaker 8: that primetime game. But you're playing at those ten thirty
- 8:13Speaker 8: games against ASU, right, like, Okay, no one's really watching that,
- 8:18Speaker 8: which Shae won the Heisman voters, because if he was
- 8:21Speaker 8: really as good as Joe Klott was alluding to, then
- 8:24Speaker 8: I don't know what happens that Heisman race. Like I said,
- 8:25Speaker 8: this is not about me tearing down Daniels. It's more
- 8:27Speaker 8: about building panics up. But it was awesome, dude, it
- 8:30Speaker 8: was awesome.
- 8:31Speaker 1: It was shout out everybody who showed up on the stream. Yeah,
- 8:35Speaker 1: but I have phone. We were trying to get fifteen
- 8:37Speaker 1: thousand in there.
- 8:38Speaker 2: So JP, for whatever reason, said he'd let Michael Chandler
- 8:41Speaker 2: choke him unconscious.
- 8:43Speaker 8: Yeah. He even crazier than that. It was like at
- 8:45Speaker 8: one point JP pivoted to I'll take a lake kick
- 8:47Speaker 8: from Mike. Yeah, I'd much rather get you.
- 8:49Speaker 2: What's fun is before the fifteen thousand, I was like, yeah,
- 8:52Speaker 2: I'm trying to think help him out, like man, it
- 8:53Speaker 2: might be able to get there. So I was like, hey,
- 8:55Speaker 2: we go like twenty thousand or something, and the JP's like,
- 8:57Speaker 2: I'll do it for fifteen, right, if you want to
- 9:01Speaker 2: bring it. He never sniffed that much on the street.
- 9:03Speaker 2: I never sniffed it, never sniffed it. But still the
- 9:05Speaker 2: thought of like him going unconscious. Yeah, just getting choked
- 9:09Speaker 2: out for the boys for the chat.
- 9:10Speaker 8: What was the chat? Why so many for the chokeout
- 9:13Speaker 8: because the chokeout is it's not that bad.
- 9:16Speaker 9: I mean, I feel like there's way more things that
- 9:19Speaker 9: can go wrong with a chokeout than a leg cack. Yeah,
- 9:22Speaker 9: I think I can handle a leg kick, Like you
- 9:24Speaker 9: go down, it hurts for the next couple of days,
- 9:26Speaker 9: and you're done. But like worst case scenario leg kick, Yeah,
- 9:30Speaker 9: I'm giving him the ship and he Mike has to
- 9:32Speaker 9: push the fight on. He'll feel it a titanium and
- 9:36Speaker 9: feels like legit.
- 9:37Speaker 8: I was when he was talking about a lake kick,
- 9:40Speaker 8: I thought, man, I hope Mike doesn't get hurt like
- 9:42Speaker 8: Mike is messing around. There was a little lake kick
- 9:45Speaker 8: at you and hurts himself.
- 9:48Speaker 9: No, yeah, look, yeah, I was just trying to get
- 9:51Speaker 9: the chat popping Will had hit the pen. Like Will
- 9:55Speaker 9: was getting quiet, Taylor was walking around behind the couch.
- 9:58Speaker 8: I was nervous and focused.
- 10:01Speaker 2: I mean, we were just streaming the National Championship, like
- 10:03Speaker 2: our first stream effort. We're like doing it in a game.
- 10:06Speaker 2: We're wanting to be locked in on and watch.
- 10:08Speaker 8: There's a lot of opportunity in the stream game though.
- 10:10Speaker 8: You can see it with I mean, even the coin
- 10:12Speaker 8: and destiny was a good move. I think it's hilarrius.
- 10:14Speaker 8: We played a game of were Wolf at halftime, which
- 10:17Speaker 8: is literally pissed off, which is literally Will's favorite like
- 10:21Speaker 8: game night game to play, and he's murdered the well
- 10:23Speaker 8: literally when I think, I think it was yes, Steven,
- 10:26Speaker 8: Steven and Dylan like they open their eyes, they noticed
- 10:28Speaker 8: each other and they immediately both go same time and
- 10:30Speaker 8: point at you like I know you know or yeah,
- 10:33Speaker 8: you know it's part of you. I mean you I
- 10:36Speaker 8: don't know if with that crew because you don't play everybody,
- 10:37Speaker 8: but in your head you're like, of course they'd get
- 10:39Speaker 8: me out.
- 10:40Speaker 1: I wasn't thinking that. I was like, maybe I'll maneuver
- 10:42Speaker 1: this one out.
- 10:43Speaker 2: What I honestly thought happened is I thought Rus was
- 10:45Speaker 2: the Witch, and you know how he gets salty sometimes,
- 10:48Speaker 2: Like I just figured.
- 10:49Speaker 1: He just wanted to kill me, and then he goes
- 10:50Speaker 1: round and kills another person.
- 10:52Speaker 8: He was hailing that all wrong. It's it's tough being
- 10:55Speaker 8: the witch. It's tough being the witch because you if
- 10:58Speaker 8: you're saving somebody, you could be saving a werewolf and
- 11:02Speaker 8: they could allude to a Coop. I know it is
- 11:06Speaker 8: your first time playing the game, but as the Seer brother,
- 11:08Speaker 8: you need to be much more beneficial to the process.
- 11:11Speaker 2: That was insane crazy watching him and like ultimately you're
- 11:15Speaker 2: just like sitting there and you just start to figure out, like, wow,
- 11:17Speaker 2: JP and Coop are going to be the ones on
- 11:21Speaker 2: trial and neither of them and literally Coop was the
- 11:23Speaker 2: Seer and pointed at JP and Taylor's like so I'm
- 11:27Speaker 2: just thinking, like, Coop, you've got to like allude to
- 11:29Speaker 2: JP if he points you out there, like, hey, brother,
- 11:32Speaker 2: I'm not the werewolf and I know you're not the werewolf.
- 11:35Speaker 2: We got to figure out who these other ones are, right,
- 11:37Speaker 2: How do you know I'm not the werewolf? Trust me,
- 11:39Speaker 2: I know that you are not the werewolf.
- 11:41Speaker 8: Yeah that's all right though, but what better opportunity Coop.
- 11:45Speaker 1: I know, I know, I couldn't talk at all.
- 11:48Speaker 6: I was dead.
- 11:49Speaker 8: If you're joining us right now and you're noticing an
- 11:52Speaker 8: extra guy in the back, we've mentioned him a couple
- 11:54Speaker 8: of times. Cooper, our new graphic designer for Bust with
- 11:56Speaker 8: the Boys. Let's get this man in a round of applause.
- 12:00Speaker 8: Litle bit about yourself? Brother, where are you from? Your
- 12:02Speaker 8: favorite meal? When you lost your virginity? Those types of things.
- 12:05Speaker 8: Just give us the basics.
- 12:06Speaker 10: I'll start where I'm from, Okay, from Texas?
- 12:10Speaker 8: Hey, hoas? What part of Dallas were worth Keller? Is
- 12:15Speaker 8: that where Billy Bob's is? Dallas?
- 12:17Speaker 1: Yeah? Okay, went to Oklahoma State. Go Pokes, POA, I mean,
- 12:22Speaker 1: what are we talking about?
- 12:23Speaker 2: Are you a Michigan Wolverine bo? Are you uh Pokes
- 12:28Speaker 2: or U s mu Mustangs?
- 12:29Speaker 8: Like?
- 12:29Speaker 1: What are we doing?
- 12:30Speaker 10: I'm Oklahoma State product, Michigan fan.
- 12:32Speaker 2: All right, I couldn't get into Michigan, I guess, I
- 12:36Speaker 2: guess not what made you a Michigan fan?
- 12:38Speaker 10: I got family from there?
- 12:40Speaker 1: Okay?
- 12:41Speaker 8: What part Farmington Hills sounds like a nice rich area.
- 12:45Speaker 8: I think it's right next to Detroit suburb suburb. It's
- 12:47Speaker 8: a nice rich area of Detroit. Were you in college money?
- 12:51Speaker 1: Were you going to Oklahoma State cowboy games in college?
- 12:54Speaker 8: Yeah?
- 12:54Speaker 1: Cheering them on?
- 12:55Speaker 2: Yeah, if Michigan had came in and played them, Who
- 12:57Speaker 2: are you rooting for at the time that you were
- 12:59Speaker 2: at Oklam mistake?
- 13:01Speaker 10: Look, this question got me in trouble with my friends
- 13:04Speaker 10: a lot. Michigan got through the other night. I'll probably
- 13:07Speaker 10: go with oklhom State now right when I got through them.
- 13:10Speaker 8: Hold on, hold on, brother, That's not the question that
- 13:12Speaker 8: was asked. The question that was asked is you are
- 13:15Speaker 8: a student at Oklahoma State and the Michigan Wolverines come
- 13:19Speaker 8: into Stillwater. All right, you are going to try to
- 13:21Speaker 8: take down your cowboys, who you are invested in, giving
- 13:24Speaker 8: them money to get an education. Who are you rooting for?
- 13:27Speaker 10: I'll root for the Pokes.
- 13:29Speaker 1: Then you're not a Michigan fan. You're not a champion.
- 13:33Speaker 2: We are immediately we are stripping you of your national Hey,
- 13:38Speaker 2: you know what the good news is is you're You're
- 13:39Speaker 2: in good company.
- 13:40Speaker 8: You and Mitchell essentially sounds like the same.
- 13:42Speaker 2: Sax fans of it seems a probably better fan than
- 13:45Speaker 2: miss because at least he's cheering for like college as
- 13:47Speaker 2: he went to.
- 13:50Speaker 5: Yeah, we college cheer for my college. But my college
- 13:54Speaker 5: is the smallest college of anybody here.
- 13:58Speaker 8: Doesn't mean you can't have pride.
- 13:59Speaker 1: I have pride.
- 14:00Speaker 5: I know I do have pride.
- 14:02Speaker 1: I do have pride in Susquehannah State College.
- 14:05Speaker 5: I do have pride in Susquehanna.
- 14:06Speaker 8: But like, you're a Penn State guy, You're an Ohio
- 14:08Speaker 8: State guy. You're a Chiefs fan, You're a Yankees, You're
- 14:12Speaker 8: Sox fan. Eagles Philly, Yeah, Phillies. Like you, brother, you're
- 14:18Speaker 8: taking all the good ones. You're taking all the good ones.
- 14:21Speaker 5: The only sports that I care about is football. I
- 14:24Speaker 5: don't care about any of those four teams. I I
- 14:33Speaker 5: can't be a like I am a Susquehanna fan, but
- 14:35Speaker 5: I can't be like who Rock is. Nobody knows who
- 14:38Speaker 5: that is.
- 14:39Speaker 8: Wear it with pride.
- 14:41Speaker 1: I do wear with pride.
- 14:42Speaker 8: I was wearing a Susquehanna shirt during the stream last year.
- 14:45Speaker 8: I noticed it, and you didn't say anything. You didn't
- 14:46Speaker 8: say anything once about it.
- 14:48Speaker 6: That is not true.
- 14:50Speaker 7: You have ever seen him we Quehannah gear.
- 14:52Speaker 8: I mean last night he was wearing it. Yeah, last night,
- 14:57Speaker 8: last night. Yeah, get back to Coop Yeah, So.
- 15:02Speaker 2: Congratulations Coop on working with busting with the boys. You're
- 15:04Speaker 2: with the squad in the back. We got a nice
- 15:06Speaker 2: little we got a tight knick group. We got a
- 15:08Speaker 2: tight knick squad.
- 15:09Speaker 6: Here.
- 15:09Speaker 8: Give us your first impressions of the boys. What do
- 15:11Speaker 8: you think of Garrett? What was your first thought of Garrett?
- 15:15Speaker 8: This is Garrett, by the way.
- 15:18Speaker 10: Uh, I mean I like him. I have had a
- 15:21Speaker 10: chance to not like it's your mouth, No, I like Garrett.
- 15:25Speaker 1: Yeah?
- 15:25Speaker 8: What about JP?
- 15:27Speaker 1: Love JP?
- 15:27Speaker 10: JP has been great?
- 15:28Speaker 1: Okay, So you like JP more than Garrett? Okay, that's nice.
- 15:32Speaker 8: What about what about Mitch?
- 15:34Speaker 10: You know he's got the Ohio state Penn State thing,
- 15:37Speaker 10: but he's been cool too.
- 15:38Speaker 8: Okay, so we'll put him thirst.
- 15:41Speaker 7: JP.
- 15:43Speaker 8: What do you think about Mick Pherson over here in
- 15:45Speaker 8: the corner.
- 15:47Speaker 1: I look at him.
- 15:48Speaker 10: He's got he's got style. I like him, all right,
- 15:51Speaker 10: he might be here if I have the most style.
- 15:53Speaker 8: Okay, Jack, that's gotta feel good.
- 15:55Speaker 11: Yeah, I'll take second then, because JP got the love though,
- 15:58Speaker 11: So yeah, yeah, second better than third or fourth.
- 16:01Speaker 8: So Coops rankings of the boys in the back right
- 16:04Speaker 8: now goes JP, Jack, Garrett, Mitch. You know what that
- 16:12Speaker 8: was a question for you is more like a is
- 16:14Speaker 8: that we all agree with that?
- 16:15Speaker 3: How we?
- 16:16Speaker 8: Yeah? The graphic of the power rankings, that's what this
- 16:18Speaker 8: stay right now, they're ever flowing. So hey, power rankings.
- 16:24Speaker 8: Yeah yeah, make your own graphic. Well congrats buddy.
- 16:27Speaker 1: Thank you.
- 16:27Speaker 10: Guys say we're happy to have you.
- 16:29Speaker 8: We are happy to have you. So yeah, dude, Michigan's
- 16:32Speaker 8: national champs. What's gonna happen now next forty eight hours?
- 16:36Speaker 8: Hard Ball's gonna leave? What was interesting? He was on
- 16:39Speaker 8: uh Scott Van Pelt Show after and he goes, I
- 16:44Speaker 8: told the guys, we usually start Valentine's Day for spring
- 16:48Speaker 8: football because we love football, but we're gonna move it
- 16:50Speaker 8: a month.
- 16:51Speaker 1: Yeah, I saw that, But to me, that's just har Ball.
- 16:55Speaker 2: He is, he is where his feet are, like right,
- 16:58Speaker 2: he's still the head football coach of Michigan, so he's
- 17:01Speaker 2: going to I mean, you saw him trying to celebrate
- 17:03Speaker 2: last night. He had no clue how to celebrate. He
- 17:04Speaker 2: had no process. He is all fucking processed.
- 17:08Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, I can pull that down.
- 17:12Speaker 2: You know, he has no clue how to be happy
- 17:14Speaker 2: about this and excited you know he is, Yeah, all
- 17:17Speaker 2: he's singing about is man, I'm gonna push spring ball
- 17:19Speaker 2: back a month.
- 17:20Speaker 8: Yeah, you know what I mean, Well, how are we
- 17:21Speaker 8: gonna How are we gonna conquer that month without practicing?
- 17:24Speaker 2: Right unless this agent calls and says, hey, here are
- 17:26Speaker 2: the offers on the table. All he's thinking about is
- 17:28Speaker 2: how he gets these boys ready and how they start
- 17:30Speaker 2: crapping for springball and how to repeat. How do you
- 17:33Speaker 2: be like, what's been your favorite national title the next one?
- 17:36Speaker 2: That's what he's trying to do right now.
- 17:37Speaker 8: Yeah, he is a He is definitely a present and
- 17:40Speaker 8: process oriented guy.
- 17:42Speaker 2: Yeah, because if he was, if he was one thousand
- 17:43Speaker 2: percent staying, everybody's like I saw somebody be like that
- 17:46Speaker 2: Harpball just admit to saying to Michigan, he would have
- 17:48Speaker 2: already signed his deal.
- 17:50Speaker 8: Yeah. I wonder if I mean this is I really
- 17:52Speaker 8: believe he's gonna go to the NFL when it's all
- 17:54Speaker 8: said and done. But if in the world of thinking
- 17:57Speaker 8: Hardball's gonna stay, is this A he wins the Natty
- 18:00Speaker 8: and he's like, hey, one hundred and twenty five million,
- 18:02Speaker 8: ten years is not even close to enough double it.
- 18:05Speaker 1: I don't think so.
- 18:05Speaker 2: It's at that point, man, how much does everybody all
- 18:08Speaker 2: these dudes need to like you, you want to be
- 18:09Speaker 2: in the top five money conversation, like maybe the best, right, right?
- 18:13Speaker 8: I mean, but he can't be number one, right because
- 18:16Speaker 8: uh Sabment has something in this contract that he has
- 18:18Speaker 8: to be the highest paid.
- 18:22Speaker 2: Oh for real, that'd be hilarious if like, no matter
- 18:26Speaker 2: who resets the market, I have to be at ten
- 18:27Speaker 2: thousand dollars above them. Yeah it has to yeah with
- 18:30Speaker 2: just one dollar? Yeah, yeah, even like thirty cents. I
- 18:33Speaker 2: don't I you know, I know we're gonna get in
- 18:35Speaker 2: and talking about it, but I think there's no way
- 18:36Speaker 2: he stays because of all the investigation stuff that's going
- 18:39Speaker 2: to ultimately come about in a year or two.
- 18:41Speaker 1: Yeah, however long the process takes.
- 18:43Speaker 2: And because we were talking about on the flight home
- 18:46Speaker 2: from Montana, which we can get to that too because
- 18:49Speaker 2: meat Eater was all time, but we were kind of
- 18:52Speaker 2: talking like why like Hardball is just a one billion
- 18:57Speaker 2: percent football guy, Like in his mind, he wants an
- 19:00Speaker 2: NFL Super Bowl, he wants a national championship, and he
- 19:03Speaker 2: wants to be considered one of the greatest coaches of
- 19:06Speaker 2: all time. They got was converted from a player from
- 19:08Speaker 2: a quarterback, like he is super competitive. Now that he's
- 19:12Speaker 2: re established a premier program like Michigan, what are you
- 19:16Speaker 2: guys the winning his college football program of all time.
- 19:18Speaker 8: We have the most wins, the most the winningest percentage wise,
- 19:21Speaker 8: I think is Notre Dame.
- 19:22Speaker 2: Either way, but re establishing school like that, the way
- 19:26Speaker 2: he has in these last however many years he's been
- 19:28Speaker 2: with Michigan and to go playoff, get beat by Georgia,
- 19:32Speaker 2: playoff again, get beat by TCU, and then make a
- 19:35Speaker 2: run again and win it all and beat you know, Alabama, beat.
- 19:39Speaker 1: The SEC champion, beat the back twelve champion.
- 19:41Speaker 2: It's like now he's a national title and he's going
- 19:44Speaker 2: to be a he's like an eight plus higher for
- 19:46Speaker 2: the NFL, and in my opinion, he wants to go
- 19:48Speaker 2: back to the NFL. So that way, you know, he
- 19:50Speaker 2: had the Hardball Bowl against his brother with the Niners,
- 19:53Speaker 2: like he's been to the Super Bowl. So this is,
- 19:55Speaker 2: you know, like he's got the he's got all of
- 19:59Speaker 2: the tools to be a top coach at every level.
- 20:02Speaker 1: I think now he wants to conquer the NFL because.
- 20:03Speaker 2: He's basically connor like football, I wonder in college ball,
- 20:07Speaker 2: unless he's trying to repeat, right, but there's just you know,
- 20:10Speaker 2: with everybody everything happened, it's like, oh, it's not worth it.
- 20:12Speaker 1: It's not gonna be worth the drama. He can just
- 20:14Speaker 1: he didn't give a fuck.
- 20:15Speaker 8: I wonder if, like allegations aside, if he wins that
- 20:18Speaker 8: game in twenty twelve against his brother and wins the
- 20:20Speaker 8: Super Bowl, he probably stays at Michigan.
- 20:23Speaker 12: Yeah.
- 20:23Speaker 1: Possibly.
- 20:24Speaker 8: Now there's this unfinished business. You got to get back
- 20:26Speaker 8: there and get it. And I think if you're a
- 20:27Speaker 8: Michigan fan, you just say, hey, thank you so much,
- 20:30Speaker 8: shake his hand, put the statue up right next to
- 20:32Speaker 8: Bo Shambckler and move on.
- 20:34Speaker 1: Yeah, and just be hey, maybe replace it. What's that
- 20:37Speaker 1: some people's mind, maybe.
- 20:38Speaker 8: Replaced replace Schambckler, Oh because of the Yeah, come on, I.
- 20:42Speaker 1: Don't know a whole lot about it.
- 20:43Speaker 2: I just know when I posted my phone, yeah, people
- 20:45Speaker 2: were getting like, getting a older man, what the fuck's
- 20:47Speaker 2: going on?
- 20:47Speaker 8: You know, as wild as I didn't know anything about
- 20:49Speaker 8: it until we posted that photo, I was like, oh,
- 20:51Speaker 8: Shemecker was like that. I didn't know. I know there
- 20:54Speaker 8: was ohos kinds of allegations going on.
- 20:56Speaker 9: We think something with Jim Harball that like everyone in
- 20:59Speaker 9: college boss would take note of is how long was he?
- 21:02Speaker 9: How long has he been at Michigan. I think like
- 21:04Speaker 9: six years now, So it took him six years to
- 21:07Speaker 9: rebuild a program. And that's Jim Harbaugh, who's considered one
- 21:10Speaker 9: of the best football coaches of all time. And now
- 21:13Speaker 9: it's like you got colleges say if Matt Ruhle it
- 21:16Speaker 9: has him at six and six and year three, like
- 21:18Speaker 9: people will be calling for his head. It's same with
- 21:20Speaker 9: like Shane Beemer, which is.
- 21:22Speaker 2: What happened with Harball, which I don't even know if
- 21:24Speaker 2: he was six and six, right, wasn't.
- 21:25Speaker 8: He Like I think the twenty twenty year, they were
- 21:27Speaker 8: two and four.
- 21:29Speaker 1: Oh, the COVID year. Yeah, the COVID year.
- 21:30Speaker 8: He literally had to renegotiat his contract to take less
- 21:32Speaker 8: money just to stay because everyone's calling for head. I was,
- 21:35Speaker 8: they was, like all the fans.
- 21:36Speaker 7: Were, the school was.
- 21:38Speaker 5: I know.
- 21:38Speaker 9: This is a great example of like give your coach time,
- 21:42Speaker 9: like if you really want someone to rebuild your program.
- 21:44Speaker 6: Harball's a perfect example.
- 21:45Speaker 8: Like such an interesting thing too, cause it's like like Horrball,
- 21:50Speaker 8: who is a proven coach, right he was in the NFL.
- 21:52Speaker 8: It's very difficult for a college coach to go to
- 21:53Speaker 8: the NFL and be successful. We saw that with Nick
- 21:55Speaker 8: Saban and who else there was one, Oh Urban Meyer,
- 21:59Speaker 8: we saw that happen. But like being from going from
- 22:02Speaker 8: the NFL and then into college, like he is a guy,
- 22:06Speaker 8: proven dude that can like get men to get behind
- 22:08Speaker 8: him and like whoa oh yeah euro pause behind him, Yeah,
- 22:15Speaker 8: get behind him in a big way. But do you
- 22:17Speaker 8: look at and I will just use like a Beamer
- 22:19Speaker 8: as an example as a coach that doesn't have that pedigree,
- 22:22Speaker 8: do you give him the same amount of time as
- 22:24Speaker 8: a guy like Harball. It's like, well, he's proven he
- 22:25Speaker 8: can do this.
- 22:26Speaker 9: I think if Harbaugh gets six years, you would give
- 22:29Speaker 9: a young guy arguably even longer.
- 22:31Speaker 8: Like eight years or whatever. You get more of a
- 22:33Speaker 8: chance to develop.
- 22:34Speaker 2: I don't hate it, Yeah, unless they're promoting internally, right, Yeah,
- 22:40Speaker 2: because the culture is already established.
- 22:43Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 22:44Speaker 2: The only one who's who's done it is we're Jimmy Johnson.
- 22:48Speaker 2: He won a national title in Miami, like won a
- 22:50Speaker 2: super Bowl.
- 22:52Speaker 8: Barry Swiszer, Yeah, we were talking about lost yesterday because
- 22:55Speaker 8: I thought it was just Jimmy Johnson too, and then
- 22:58Speaker 8: we essentially had this exact conversation, I just won more.
- 23:02Speaker 2: From like the forties though or something. Does it been
- 23:04Speaker 2: like dipping my toe in his book called Swagger. It's
- 23:07Speaker 2: Jimmy Johnson's book. Yeah, and he once he won and
- 23:10Speaker 2: then they had like a bad falling out between him
- 23:13Speaker 2: and Dallas, like Jerry Jones and Jimmy Johnson, and uh,
- 23:17Speaker 2: he essentially retired and people like go out to him,
- 23:20Speaker 2: like fly out and travel out to him because all
- 23:22Speaker 2: he does is like fish every day. And coaches fly
- 23:24Speaker 2: out to him and I forget what they call it,
- 23:26Speaker 2: but they go out to him and just like pick
- 23:27Speaker 2: his brain since he was somebody who was able to,
- 23:30Speaker 2: you know, lead a super Bowl winning team, coach a
- 23:32Speaker 2: team like Miami, like back in the nineties, with all
- 23:34Speaker 2: of those things. You know, it's all about the you like,
- 23:36Speaker 2: all the players and personalities that he dealt with. But
- 23:38Speaker 2: apparently a lot of coaches just flock out to him
- 23:41Speaker 2: for like advice in the offseason because he just stays
- 23:43Speaker 2: out there and fishes like he doesn't do a whole
- 23:44Speaker 2: lot with coaching.
- 23:45Speaker 8: He just does his thing. Yeah, what is a what
- 23:48Speaker 8: was Steven saying yesterday. Boy, Jimmy Johnson, he was like,
- 23:49Speaker 8: that was so Andso's team.
- 23:50Speaker 9: It was kind of like Barry Switzer had Jimmy Johnson's
- 23:54Speaker 9: team when he won with the Cowboys.
- 23:56Speaker 8: Got you that's true.
- 23:58Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what the nineties.
- 24:00Speaker 8: That's a wild deal. Pert, Like I do. I want
- 24:04Speaker 8: Hardball to go. I want like just for him and
- 24:07Speaker 8: the whole storyline of all the things we were talking
- 24:09Speaker 8: about on the way back from Montana. Yeah, and you
- 24:13Speaker 8: kind of just wherever he goes. I'm just gonna root
- 24:14Speaker 8: for him, m because that's gonna be. That's fucking awesome.
- 24:17Speaker 8: It's awesome. We'll get we'll get more into I don't
- 24:20Speaker 8: know if we have any more college stuff. Lets talk
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- 25:44Speaker 8: these allegations. What do we think is gonna happen to
- 25:46Speaker 8: Michigan this offseason. Will We'll start with you, the number
- 25:48Speaker 8: one enemy of Michigan death penalty. Yeah, I think they're done.
- 25:55Speaker 8: I think they're done.
- 25:55Speaker 2: And then you look back on the twenty twenty three
- 25:58Speaker 2: Nebraska football season and we're sitting.
- 26:00Speaker 8: Five and six, five and six, you guys played five
- 26:04Speaker 8: and seven.
- 26:04Speaker 1: Yeah, they take that, They take the wins away. You
- 26:07Speaker 1: got the vacate the title.
- 26:09Speaker 5: You know.
- 26:09Speaker 8: Man, even in this thought process, you see I still
- 26:12Speaker 8: don't make a bowl game. It's just crazy.
- 26:15Speaker 2: You could have believe I was hoping we like get
- 26:17Speaker 2: it reverse like, yeah, we get the win, but and
- 26:21Speaker 2: then have to play a bowl game in March.
- 26:22Speaker 1: Like, I just think they take all your wins away.
- 26:24Speaker 8: That'd be wild.
- 26:25Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 26:26Speaker 8: Anybody disagree with that? I do, And I'll tell you why.
- 26:32Speaker 8: Who there's a Who's the guy that does like the
- 26:34Speaker 8: the tiktoks on barstool? He's got the longer hair, Jack
- 26:38Speaker 8: mac He had a great think about how this national
- 26:42Speaker 8: championship is the purest national championship and in college football history.
- 26:48Speaker 1: They were I can't wait to hear what you're heard
- 26:49Speaker 1: on TV.
- 26:50Speaker 8: The FBI. The FBI was literally watching Michigan with a
- 26:55Speaker 8: microscope for Penn State, Ohio State, I mean Maryland and
- 26:59Speaker 8: Iowa as well Alabama and Washington. No room for cheating,
- 27:03Speaker 8: no room for anything. When we all know SEC has
- 27:07Speaker 8: done a lot of that in the past. Those players
- 27:09Speaker 8: have told us they've cheated. So with that being said,
- 27:13Speaker 8: even when the when the allegations come out and all
- 27:16Speaker 8: this stuff is, hey, Michigan did X, Y and Z,
- 27:18Speaker 8: we're gonna take away this. We're gonna take away that.
- 27:20Speaker 8: There's no denying that the University of Michigan was the
- 27:24Speaker 8: best college football program in twenty twenty three. There's no
- 27:28Speaker 8: denying it. So they can put an asterisk by it. People,
- 27:32Speaker 8: the haters can get mad. Husky fans, Crimson Tide fans,
- 27:35Speaker 8: Ohio State fans, Nittny Lyon fans can all be mad.
- 27:39Speaker 8: But at the end of the day, we whooped ass
- 27:43Speaker 8: and we had the best team in college football in
- 27:45Speaker 8: twenty twenty three, twenty twenty. This is the next season.
- 27:48Speaker 1: I don't know.
- 27:49Speaker 8: We're gonna have nineteen guys leave. The coaching staffs can
- 27:51Speaker 8: essentially be dissolved in a lot of ways. Hopefully Sean
- 27:54Speaker 8: Morgan is the head coaching job if they don't like,
- 27:57Speaker 8: you know, completely clean house if these allegations are true,
- 28:00Speaker 8: but we will always have as Michigan people, we will
- 28:03Speaker 8: always have the best team in the twenty twenty three
- 28:06Speaker 8: twenty twenty four season.
- 28:08Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the same way Cardinals fans and Giants fans
- 28:10Speaker 2: look back at Marve McQuire, berry bonds.
- 28:13Speaker 1: It was fun. Those are fun times look back on,
- 28:14Speaker 1: but we all it all came out.
- 28:17Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay. I mean when we're talking about
- 28:20Speaker 8: was the nineties era of baseball when everyone was doing steroids.
- 28:23Speaker 8: Everybody was doing it, and these two top guys happened
- 28:26Speaker 8: to also get in trouble. Okay, I could say the
- 28:28Speaker 8: same if Michigan was cheating. There's plenty of evidence coming
- 28:31Speaker 8: out about Ohio State doing it, Rutgers of all people,
- 28:34Speaker 8: other Big ten teams paying players before night out exactly.
- 28:38Speaker 8: That's what I'm saying. So we're talking about these two
- 28:41Speaker 8: guys in baseball getting getting caught for doing something wrong
- 28:43Speaker 8: when it was generally known that everybody else was doing it,
- 28:45Speaker 8: and they became the the you know, the send a
- 28:48Speaker 8: message in the MLB, same things you go for cold football.
- 28:51Speaker 8: If they're going to send a message to Michigan, We're
- 28:53Speaker 8: probably gonna go down figuring out that a lot of
- 28:55Speaker 8: these other teams were also doing it. Michigan just did
- 28:56Speaker 8: it better.
- 28:58Speaker 2: So what I'm hearing is it's worse than we all anticipated,
- 29:01Speaker 2: or it could be worse than thought of a source
- 29:04Speaker 2: that I don't you know, I don't give out my sources,
- 29:06Speaker 2: give out your sources. No, But from what I've been
- 29:09Speaker 2: told from a reliable sources, you're looking at potentially even Michigan,
- 29:16Speaker 2: even new ways to hack other teams is like technology,
- 29:19Speaker 2: like watch their practices, like get in their database.
- 29:23Speaker 8: So I'm sure it'll take a year or two, but
- 29:25Speaker 8: we'll find out.
- 29:26Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll find out. We'll let the do process take care.
- 29:29Speaker 2: That is truly just an assumption. That's an assumption. Assumption
- 29:32Speaker 2: can lead to a lot of negative things. But that's
- 29:35Speaker 2: just what I've been told.
- 29:36Speaker 8: One thing that's not an assumption is the shirt that
- 29:38Speaker 8: I'm wearing right now, This Champ shirt that you can
- 29:40Speaker 8: get at stored up, barstool sports dot com, slash Bust.
- 29:43Speaker 1: That is a fire shirt.
- 29:44Speaker 8: This shirt is fantastic. If you don't order this shirt
- 29:47Speaker 8: in the next twenty four hours, you'll probably never be
- 29:49Speaker 8: able to have this shirt again because we're probably gonna
- 29:51Speaker 8: get c indeed, probably right away. Iyball's face, we've already
- 29:57Speaker 8: been kind of been told. We've already been kind of told.
- 30:00Speaker 8: You guys are ready get seed. Indeed for that stay
- 30:01Speaker 8: with the championship ring where it says national and there's
- 30:03Speaker 8: a ring in champions Oh okay.
- 30:05Speaker 2: I was curious because even Barsool's relationshile, I was like, oh,
- 30:08Speaker 2: I wondered if they're talking to the person where they
- 30:10Speaker 2: can license it, they're just taking a shot until it
- 30:13Speaker 2: gets seen, you know.
- 30:14Speaker 1: Because it's Dave.
- 30:15Speaker 8: He was like, fuck it, let's put it up.
- 30:17Speaker 1: It'll sell. And the one it's gone, it's gone.
- 30:18Speaker 8: Yeah, kind of like the season exactly. You have it exactly,
- 30:22Speaker 8: and then when it's gone, it's gone.
- 30:23Speaker 2: No, this will be a fun year to look back
- 30:26Speaker 2: on for the rest of our lives. Yeah, no question
- 30:28Speaker 2: about it. And you guys, did you put up the
- 30:30Speaker 2: middle finger to everybody? There was all the distraction in
- 30:33Speaker 2: the world where you guys could have stumbled and failed
- 30:34Speaker 2: along the way. Yes, myself hoping for it included, but
- 30:37Speaker 2: you guys didn't. You guys persevered. You guys handled your
- 30:40Speaker 2: business it was when it was Pennstad, it was like, oh,
- 30:42Speaker 2: you guys didn't throw the ball in the second half.
- 30:44Speaker 1: Maybe JJ didn't have it.
- 30:45Speaker 2: You're like, hey, maybe JJ sucks, like Penn State might
- 30:48Speaker 2: just suck because our quarterback was bad. And then you
- 30:50Speaker 2: guys take care of business against Ohio STATEA it's like, well,
- 30:52Speaker 2: if they would have threw that pick in the first quarter,
- 30:54Speaker 2: if this wouldn't happen, then it's like, well, you actually
- 30:57Speaker 2: get to see him against the big dogs. They draw
- 30:59Speaker 2: Alabama when we were all excited that you drew Alabama
- 31:02Speaker 2: instead of Florida State, and I'm just grinning ear to
- 31:05Speaker 2: ear thinking I knew they went to Florida State. These motherfuckers,
- 31:08Speaker 2: they're done, they're done. I put money. I put two
- 31:10Speaker 2: thousand tops on Alabama, so one thousand to win the
- 31:13Speaker 2: Natty and one thousand to beat. You guys lost. You
- 31:16Speaker 2: guys handled Alabama. You beat their ass in a fashion
- 31:19Speaker 2: that's like that sucked to see. That sucked to witness.
- 31:23Speaker 2: Then it's Washington. It's like all hands on deck. These
- 31:25Speaker 2: motherfuckers can't win. And you guys beat Washington. You didn't
- 31:28Speaker 2: beat Washington. You whooped their ass. So you guys get
- 31:31Speaker 2: the confetti coming down. Yeah, you guys fucking did it.
- 31:34Speaker 1: You guys.
- 31:35Speaker 2: It was Michigan versus everybody. It was you versus the bus,
- 31:37Speaker 2: and you guys came out on top. You beat the bus,
- 31:41Speaker 2: Michigan beat everybody.
- 31:43Speaker 8: Gonna said it better myself.
- 31:45Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's what happened.
- 31:47Speaker 8: That was fantastic. Essentially, you just bunny rabbit yourself eight
- 31:50Speaker 8: miles yourself.
- 31:51Speaker 2: Just now, well, you gotta talk about how that that is,
- 31:54Speaker 2: what like that is exactly what happened.
- 31:56Speaker 8: And you didn't even mention the fact that the Big
- 31:58Speaker 8: ten tried to put in a suspend our head coach
- 32:01Speaker 8: before the three big, two biggest games of the year.
- 32:03Speaker 1: Right, yeah, the whole yeah, yeah, yeah, the whole.
- 32:06Speaker 8: Thing did everything they possibly could to run us in
- 32:08Speaker 8: the dirt. But the person I'm not mad at Patit,
- 32:14Speaker 8: I'm not mad at these stations that are coming. I'm
- 32:16Speaker 8: not mad in general disappointing. The person I'm most disappointed
- 32:20Speaker 8: in is you.
- 32:21Speaker 1: Why is that dog?
- 32:24Speaker 8: I can say right now, even as nasty as you
- 32:27Speaker 8: have been, to play this villain. If Nebraska is in
- 32:31Speaker 8: the National Championship versus anybody else other than Michigan, I
- 32:35Speaker 8: would have read on I'd be saying go big Red.
- 32:39Speaker 8: I'd fucking pay the mascot to not go to the
- 32:42Speaker 8: National Championship game so he could stream the game with us.
- 32:45Speaker 8: That is how much I would support you. And because
- 32:48Speaker 8: there are a couple of things, I did get a
- 32:50Speaker 8: little nasty. This turn into however you wanted to make it,
- 32:55Speaker 8: and I understand why it started that way. But I
- 32:58Speaker 8: thought to myself, man if I changed my attitude and
- 33:01Speaker 8: I'm a little more nicer, like after the Alabama game,
- 33:03Speaker 8: didn't come in here swinging at the boys. I was
- 33:05Speaker 8: just I had a lot of gratitude. Shook Garrett's hand,
- 33:08Speaker 8: and it was what it was. You continued to fight
- 33:12Speaker 8: the good fight against your boy, and to me, it's
- 33:15Speaker 8: just like, of I get it. I know we're playing
- 33:18Speaker 8: the game on Twitter, we're having fun, you're you're doing
- 33:21Speaker 8: the bulletin board material. But at some point I would
- 33:24Speaker 8: hope that friendship would take over clicks.
- 33:27Speaker 2: Yeah, after you guys beat Alabama, did I not congratulate
- 33:30Speaker 2: you after you guys, after you guys, you guys. Yeah,
- 33:33Speaker 2: after you guys won the national title? Did I not
- 33:35Speaker 2: shake your hand?
- 33:35Speaker 8: Yeah, you shook my hand like you. You would have
- 33:38Speaker 8: loved I would have loved that battle to be all
- 33:41Speaker 8: of us together, even the boys in the back after
- 33:44Speaker 8: the Alabama thing. Everyone was going for Blue a little
- 33:46Speaker 8: selfishly with the bets and all that, but I respect it.
- 33:49Speaker 8: My boy over here made fifteen hundred dollars last night.
- 33:51Speaker 8: But even when all the boys, who we've all been
- 33:55Speaker 8: fussing at each other, we've been fussing, getting shippy each
- 33:58Speaker 8: other all year, the boys back road with Michigan because
- 34:01Speaker 8: they're like, hey, we have no dog in this fight.
- 34:04Speaker 8: We would love for one of our guys to win it.
- 34:06Speaker 8: And then you go the day of the game and
- 34:09Speaker 8: talk about all this stuff, and you finished the last
- 34:11Speaker 8: three seconds of your video, but it's still go Huskies
- 34:15Speaker 8: the Raiders.
- 34:16Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta finish the story arc. You gotta finish
- 34:19Speaker 2: the story arc. Like I needed to be the antagonist.
- 34:21Speaker 2: You could have been the antagonist. It could have been
- 34:23Speaker 2: the storyline of this guy's being the villain the whole time.
- 34:26Speaker 2: And at the end he has this epiphany that friendship
- 34:28Speaker 2: Trump's being the villain for whatever reason, and I'm.
- 34:31Speaker 8: That's gonna be it. You know what that is that
- 34:33Speaker 8: goes from you getting yours to Now it's a rom common.
- 34:36Speaker 8: We're all happy for everybody, right.
- 34:38Speaker 1: I didn't want the rom coming. I understand, look at
- 34:41Speaker 1: us now. No, I'm still mad. Yeah, I saw you
- 34:45Speaker 1: put it. I saw you put it. I saw you
- 34:47Speaker 1: put up the video of the things I was saying
- 34:49Speaker 1: early in the year.
- 34:50Speaker 8: Because you and I and even when I posted, I
- 34:52Speaker 8: was like, I just want to let this die. It hurt,
- 34:54Speaker 8: it didn't serve me used to do it, but I knew, hey,
- 34:57Speaker 8: I gotta do it. Put thislast night after we had
- 35:01Speaker 8: a valuable hug before I left, valuable that we were
- 35:06Speaker 8: glad it was over. No, that's not how it went.
- 35:09Speaker 8: It was a valuable hug when I hugged you and
- 35:11Speaker 8: I said, I'm glad this is over. Now we can
- 35:13Speaker 8: stop hating each other and be friends again. And you
- 35:15Speaker 8: know what you said, congratulations, you said you smell nice.
- 35:19Speaker 8: That's what you said.
- 35:20Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm hugging you.
- 35:22Speaker 8: I genuinely hugged you.
- 35:23Speaker 2: We did our handshake, put the hands out without any
- 35:26Speaker 2: and then you know how we do this thing.
- 35:28Speaker 1: It was arms out hug. We embraced the hug, and
- 35:31Speaker 1: then an hour later.
- 35:33Speaker 8: Said words trying to bridge a gap that's obviously been
- 35:36Speaker 8: just something right in the middle of us.
- 35:38Speaker 2: And you finish with you smell nice because we're having
- 35:41Speaker 2: a moment. You know how it is to fully like
- 35:43Speaker 2: accept and go inside of a moment as it do. Yeah,
- 35:46Speaker 2: you know what it is, you get a little queasy
- 35:49Speaker 2: or you getting my congratulations. It's not all right, it's
- 35:53Speaker 2: all about the congratulations. Will you can literally sit there
- 35:56Speaker 2: and we can all just say, even publicly South Carolina
- 35:59Speaker 2: it next year, like we're all gonna say, regardless of
- 36:02Speaker 2: what JP and I R beefing at the end if
- 36:03Speaker 2: they win them to hey, congratulations, that didn't fix nothing.
- 36:07Speaker 2: What do you mean it doesn't fix nothing like being
- 36:08Speaker 2: a gracious loser even publicly, like painfully my sincerious congratulations
- 36:14Speaker 2: to Michigan fans and you guys.
- 36:16Speaker 1: And I meant that, like I I you know, I get,
- 36:19Speaker 1: I get how this is unfolded. Like I think you're
- 36:21Speaker 1: missing a point.
- 36:21Speaker 2: It's like you're you're almost acting like you were out there,
- 36:24Speaker 2: like you were a player on the team, and I'm
- 36:26Speaker 2: like actively rooting it, like if the Titans went to
- 36:28Speaker 2: the super Bowl and I'm like, I'm rooting against my
- 36:30Speaker 2: best friend, No, that wasn't it. It was just we're
- 36:33Speaker 2: competitive in absolutely everything we do, video games, board games,
- 36:39Speaker 2: where anything, we're competitive. And you were trying to figure
- 36:43Speaker 2: out your character before the Nebraska stuff and it was
- 36:46Speaker 2: up and down. I couldn't get a read on it.
- 36:47Speaker 2: So I drew a line like there's only gonna be
- 36:50Speaker 2: like Portnoyd doesn't make it any better. I wake up
- 36:53Speaker 2: this morning, Hey I didn't get my congratulatory text, like it's.
- 36:56Speaker 1: You want you.
- 36:56Speaker 2: You think to yourself, if Michigan wins this game, like
- 36:59Speaker 2: this can be the worst fan base of winners of
- 37:02Speaker 2: all time. You have, there's history that could be like
- 37:04Speaker 2: Taylor could be a bad winner. And then when we
- 37:07Speaker 2: got in the moment of when you're beating the shit
- 37:09Speaker 2: out of Nebraska forty five to seven or however bad
- 37:12Speaker 2: it was, and you're still in the fourth quarter, like
- 37:14Speaker 2: standing next to me, like five, oh, we need this series,
- 37:16Speaker 2: Like man, if we can't get this series, it's just
- 37:18Speaker 2: like the game is over, Like what are you use?
- 37:19Speaker 2: Just pissing on the grave. And then you're like, hey,
- 37:21Speaker 2: I need fifteen minutes on the bus tomorrow to be nasty,
- 37:24Speaker 2: to be nasks, to be yzy, whatever it was, and
- 37:27Speaker 2: then you weren't, and you flip the script and I
- 37:29Speaker 2: didn't know the script was flipped, And I think you're
- 37:31Speaker 2: being nasty the all time.
- 37:32Speaker 1: It's more of the up and down. He doesn't know
- 37:34Speaker 1: who he wants to be.
- 37:34Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to definitively draw my line in the
- 37:37Speaker 2: sand and hope that this downfall happens.
- 37:39Speaker 8: See, here's the difference between you and I and these situations.
- 37:41Speaker 8: I'm not trying to play a character in the situations.
- 37:44Speaker 8: I truly when we were going to a rivalry game,
- 37:46Speaker 8: a trophy game where Michigan and Nebraska are the two
- 37:49Speaker 8: teams playing, there's obviously going to be shit talk. There's
- 37:52Speaker 8: obviously going to be a lot of words said back
- 37:54Speaker 8: and forth. Yeah, there's gonna be clapping. And if it's
- 37:56Speaker 8: forty five seven Nebraska's beating Michigan's ass, you're gonna the
- 38:00Speaker 8: same exact thing, because that is the status quo in
- 38:02Speaker 8: a big rivalry game and in a trophy game, what
- 38:05Speaker 8: Minnesota week one. I'm in Canada week zero, right, week
- 38:09Speaker 8: zero or week one? When the zero is a week zero.
- 38:13Speaker 8: I literally sit with myself in Canada by myself because
- 38:16Speaker 8: there's not a whole lot to do in Canada, and
- 38:19Speaker 8: I think, Wow, throughout the process of Michigan and Nebraska
- 38:23Speaker 8: and establishing these things, I've been much more vocal about
- 38:26Speaker 8: being a Nebraska fan supporting Nebraska when really it's like
- 38:29Speaker 8: you get the occasional go blue from Will, but it's not, it's.
- 38:31Speaker 1: Not and we're gonna need We're gonna need the boys
- 38:35Speaker 1: to jump in as well.
- 38:36Speaker 2: But as the year is unfolding you and you're becoming
- 38:38Speaker 2: a fan and all the arguments of best fan bases
- 38:41Speaker 2: and doing all this, that you can kind of sit
- 38:43Speaker 2: there and feel like a monster could be getting created
- 38:45Speaker 2: if Michigan ends up winning the whole thing. Like I
- 38:48Speaker 2: don't feel like there's ever like a vibe of, like,
- 38:50Speaker 2: you know, you just want to root against Nebraska because
- 38:53Speaker 2: I'm just out there just creating a lot of different
- 38:55Speaker 2: arguments or doing things to poke everybody. But because we've
- 38:58Speaker 2: been losing, so it's almost easier to play in the
- 39:00Speaker 2: position that I'm in. But it's like you go on
- 39:02Speaker 2: these long car rides and you just think it, like, man, hey,
- 39:05Speaker 2: if Michigan doesn't slip up somewhere, boys, this Frankenstein's getting created, right, now.
- 39:09Speaker 1: And I don't know how it's gonna happ I.
- 39:11Speaker 8: Don't disagree with that, But did I not make a
- 39:15Speaker 8: pivot three four weeks ago? Did I not make a payt?
- 39:18Speaker 1: But you're like, when you see the story through.
- 39:21Speaker 8: No, Because at the same time, I am sitting here
- 39:24Speaker 8: being like, Okay, I'm being a fan for the first time.
- 39:26Speaker 8: I get real excited, start talking crazy to the boys,
- 39:28Speaker 8: and then there's the internal dialogue of hey, you can
- 39:31Speaker 8: win a certain way, you can handle it a certain way,
- 39:33Speaker 8: you decide to take it and be like, all right,
- 39:35Speaker 8: he's gonna make a couple of comments like that, there's
- 39:37Speaker 8: Frankenstein being made. Now I'm just gonna go and just
- 39:39Speaker 8: be the worst.
- 39:41Speaker 1: How was it?
- 39:41Speaker 7: Hell?
- 39:42Speaker 2: Am I like being actively the worst the entire time?
- 39:45Speaker 2: You know, at the end of the day, I'm trying.
- 39:47Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm trying to be that, Like, yeah, I
- 39:48Speaker 2: see what you know, all the things that people are saying,
- 39:51Speaker 2: but it's like it doesn't matter. I'm trying to see
- 39:52Speaker 2: this story are through, Like the line was drawn in
- 39:54Speaker 2: the sand and I had to stand on principle. All right,
- 39:58Speaker 2: if that is what you're you're almost making it seem
- 40:01Speaker 2: like I'm the worst best friend, and I root against
- 40:04Speaker 2: you in absolutely everything you do, which could not be
- 40:06Speaker 2: far from it.
- 40:07Speaker 8: Gets crazy that my team's in national championship against a
- 40:10Speaker 8: PAC twelve team, well, Big ten, Big ten, that's going
- 40:13Speaker 8: to be a Big ten teams Big tens, haven't they
- 40:15Speaker 8: haven't joined yet, regardless, And you can't root for my boys? Yeah,
- 40:20Speaker 8: I can't root for him, all right, couldn't root for him? Fine,
- 40:23Speaker 8: you didn't don't say you guys, You guys don't want
- 40:25Speaker 8: to be in.
- 40:25Speaker 1: The Big ten.
- 40:26Speaker 8: I don't want them to be in the Big ten.
- 40:28Speaker 1: Yes, So what am I to do? The way if
- 40:30Speaker 1: for root for you who doesn't want to be associated?
- 40:33Speaker 8: If it was flipped in Nebraska was in the same
- 40:35Speaker 8: position Michigan was, and the Big Ten try to do
- 40:37Speaker 8: to Matt Rule what they tried to do to Jim Harball.
- 40:40Speaker 8: Are you not sitting there going they should leave the
- 40:42Speaker 8: Big Ten if they're gonna before due process, try to
- 40:46Speaker 8: put the hammer down and try to get them to
- 40:47Speaker 8: slip up by taking the head of the ahead of
- 40:49Speaker 8: the snake away.
- 40:50Speaker 1: No, because I don't think we do what you guys did.
- 40:53Speaker 8: You didn't listen to the question I said but you're
- 40:56Speaker 8: you're actually hypothetical.
- 40:58Speaker 2: Okay, if it's okay, So, but I can't wrap my
- 41:00Speaker 2: head around that hypothetical because.
- 41:02Speaker 8: They of Nebraska. Theory of Nebraska is just too deep.
- 41:06Speaker 1: Man. We've got too many good dogs. It's no big
- 41:10Speaker 1: Red all right.
- 41:13Speaker 8: We're not gonna get anywhere. There are there are no
- 41:15Speaker 8: there are.
- 41:16Speaker 2: No reasons that make you think I'm going to root
- 41:18Speaker 2: against Nebraska, like you can find moments of being like, ah,
- 41:22Speaker 2: you need Michigan to go down, you need the humble
- 41:24Speaker 2: like Dave.
- 41:24Speaker 8: You want Dave to not be a champion. Dave has
- 41:29Speaker 8: like seven super Bowls. I know, I know, and now
- 41:33Speaker 8: he's won enough. But inadvertently, well, you pring on Dave's downfall.
- 41:37Speaker 8: That's how you're gonna cut it. We're rooting against Dave.
- 41:39Speaker 8: You're rooting against me too.
- 41:41Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, that's how. That's why at times like
- 41:43Speaker 1: it's kind of like the whole fall back thing.
- 41:46Speaker 2: I'm happy you're a national champion, bro, because I feel
- 41:50Speaker 2: like we all got to take part of you becoming
- 41:51Speaker 2: a fan this year.
- 41:53Speaker 1: So I am happy that you've handled it this way
- 41:55Speaker 1: as a champion. You've done You've done it. You've done
- 41:58Speaker 1: a great job.
- 42:00Speaker 8: Time from being a fan so stressful. It's so stressful.
- 42:05Speaker 8: It's so hard to be a fan of a legitimately
- 42:08Speaker 8: good team. Oh yeah, it is so No Listen, that
- 42:12Speaker 8: could sound a whole bunch of different ways. But if
- 42:15Speaker 8: you're in the if you're in a listen, if you're
- 42:17Speaker 8: in middle of the pack ACC team, so right, no
- 42:20Speaker 8: one's getting no one's taking shots here. It's like, yeah,
- 42:23Speaker 8: you're hoping they beat the Florida State, So you're hoping
- 42:25Speaker 8: they beat whatever the good teams are in the ACC.
- 42:28Speaker 8: But when you are a top team of a conference,
- 42:32Speaker 8: could be the SEC, could be the Pac twelve, could
- 42:34Speaker 8: be any of the conferences, and you know that it's
- 42:38Speaker 8: a disappointment if they don't win the conference. When they
- 42:41Speaker 8: get to the big games, it's like it's stressful as hell,
- 42:44Speaker 8: and jav you can shake your head all you want, bro.
- 42:47Speaker 7: Because you sound crazy.
- 42:49Speaker 8: No, because listen, it's different.
- 42:52Speaker 7: It's fucking different different.
- 42:54Speaker 8: I'm not trying to.
- 42:57Speaker 13: It's hard, you know, no hard, Yes, I do. Making
- 43:02Speaker 13: it to the collegin wall playoff is hard. Yes, you
- 43:06Speaker 13: don't know what it's like being only twelve.
- 43:09Speaker 8: I know it's like being two and thirteen or two
- 43:12Speaker 8: and fifteen. I know it's like being three and thirteen.
- 43:14Speaker 8: I know with the Tennessee Titans.
- 43:17Speaker 7: We're not talking about the Titan.
- 43:18Speaker 1: I know what's to be.
- 43:19Speaker 8: Nine the thirteen with Michigan and Suck and all the
- 43:23Speaker 8: old players come back and be like you guys, fucking Suck.
- 43:27Speaker 1: Blow down. Hey, let's slow down.
- 43:29Speaker 8: I'm just saying like you you literally act JP you.
- 43:32Speaker 8: I listen, you're a fantastic fan, but you're acting like
- 43:35Speaker 8: we don't know fucking struggles out here, y'all. Don't you
- 43:37Speaker 8: know what are you talking about?
- 43:39Speaker 1: Hey?
- 43:40Speaker 8: The only person we can really is maybe Garrett and
- 43:43Speaker 8: because he's had so much success.
- 43:46Speaker 7: Literally, that's it.
- 43:47Speaker 8: Everybody here has truly felt pain.
- 43:49Speaker 1: What happened in your first year of being a fan?
- 43:51Speaker 8: What's that? What happened when you're fifteen and know we
- 43:53Speaker 8: win the national championship and I sweated between Penn State Maryland?
- 43:57Speaker 8: Ohiosee mayor Hey, I know, give me a second, I'll
- 44:00Speaker 8: get I'll tune it down in a second. Just give
- 44:01Speaker 8: me two. I appreciate you.
- 44:03Speaker 1: I can see it.
- 44:03Speaker 8: I can see it. Thank you, Thank you Maryland. I
- 44:07Speaker 8: was up till I was up the whole night with data,
- 44:10Speaker 8: just trying to be supportive force. And I'm watching JJ throwpicks.
- 44:13Speaker 7: I'm like, oh, we're gonna fucking lose to Maryland, or
- 44:16Speaker 7: we should probably be in.
- 44:17Speaker 8: The national championship. The stress is it's just it's just different. JB. Okay,
- 44:24Speaker 8: because if what was that Klin record this year? What
- 44:27Speaker 8: was that Kilin's wing this year? I know the answer.
- 44:29Speaker 8: Just want you to say it.
- 44:31Speaker 6: Five and steps.
- 44:34Speaker 8: If you're five and seven, if your if your record
- 44:37Speaker 8: eventually is five and seven, after one or two losses,
- 44:42Speaker 8: now you've justifiedly in your head said hey, we're not
- 44:44Speaker 8: gonna win the national championship. Maybe listen, we're not gonna
- 44:48Speaker 8: win the national championship. We'd have two losses. There's gonna
- 44:50Speaker 8: be more teams. There's a team that went undefeated that
- 44:52Speaker 8: still wasn't in the national Championship. Then after a couple
- 44:55Speaker 8: more losses, you're like, okay, we can't. We can't make
- 44:58Speaker 8: the SEC Championship. So you're slowly able to kind of
- 45:02Speaker 8: work through that, and your therapist brain of yours being like, Okay,
- 45:05Speaker 8: I understand we're not gonna win the SEC Championship. Now
- 45:08Speaker 8: it's a bowl game. If we beat Clemson, we're in
- 45:11Speaker 8: a bowl game, and it doesn't happen, and you fight
- 45:13Speaker 8: through those that that type of stuff. So there's incremental
- 45:16Speaker 8: when you are when you're a fan of a team
- 45:20Speaker 8: that has the capability throughout the entire season of going
- 45:24Speaker 8: to the National Championship. Win these Penn States, when these
- 45:26Speaker 8: Ohio States, when these Alabamas and these Washingtons come up,
- 45:30Speaker 8: the Nebraskas come up, there is a true like, the
- 45:35Speaker 8: only the only good thing they can come out of
- 45:38Speaker 8: this is a win. I don't have the ability to
- 45:40Speaker 8: go and spin it. When we're going five and seven,
- 45:42Speaker 8: it's like, yeah, but we got Matt Ruhl and we're
- 45:43Speaker 8: gonna be able to do X, Y and Z and
- 45:45Speaker 8: we're getting better incrementally. You can look at it, if
- 45:47Speaker 8: we just wouldn't have had all of the interceptions, we
- 45:50Speaker 8: would be eight and four. Like, there's no spinning that.
- 45:52Speaker 8: If Michigan lost at all, it was it's the hardball's gone,
- 45:58Speaker 8: JJ's gone, Blake's gone on everything they worked for is gone.
- 46:02Speaker 8: So it's just different. Does that make sense?
- 46:05Speaker 2: But I think that's every good team who's on a
- 46:06Speaker 2: run with the potential of going to the Natty.
- 46:13Speaker 8: It's just listen, and it's it's my first year. I
- 46:17Speaker 8: don't think Michigan will be as it stands right now
- 46:20Speaker 8: with all the things that possibly coming, without seeing transfers,
- 46:22Speaker 8: without seeing development of players who leaves who doesn't. Odds
- 46:25Speaker 8: are Michigan's not going to be the best squad next year.
- 46:28Speaker 8: That's just the odds because while we've been fighting for
- 46:31Speaker 8: this national championship, Ohio States getting quarterbacks, they're getting they're
- 46:34Speaker 8: getting running backs, Penn State's grabbing guys. Matt Ruhle is
- 46:37Speaker 8: doing a great job over there, getting a five star,
- 46:40Speaker 8: number one recruit. Like those things have happened where we've
- 46:42Speaker 8: had to focus on winning a Natty. So are they
- 46:45Speaker 8: going to be the best team next year? Who fucking knows,
- 46:48Speaker 8: but the answer is probably not. But just knowing that
- 46:51Speaker 8: the fight is it's when there's it just means more
- 46:55Speaker 8: when you know what's at stake, when you know the
- 46:57Speaker 8: reality of what's at stake. I take it away from
- 47:00Speaker 8: your fandom, but you knew weeks six or seven teams
- 47:08Speaker 8: could have lost. That's what makes you. That makes you
- 47:12Speaker 8: the best fan on this bus. That's not what I'm
- 47:14Speaker 8: out here trying to be I know, I know you're
- 47:18Speaker 8: trying to hold it out, have a ring.
- 47:21Speaker 1: I think we all want to win.
- 47:22Speaker 8: We all want to win. We lose, but it's fucking stressful,
- 47:26Speaker 8: just to go back to the core root of how
- 47:27Speaker 8: this whole thing started. It is so stressful.
- 47:29Speaker 1: It's also exciting to be a fan.
- 47:31Speaker 8: It's exciting, like yes, everything about like the way this
- 47:34Speaker 8: season ended. But if we were to bro When Alabama
- 47:39Speaker 8: and Michigan were playing and Alabama went up in the
- 47:42Speaker 8: fourth quarter, I thought, there's I might have to just
- 47:47Speaker 8: give my fifty percent of busting with the boys to
- 47:48Speaker 8: you and say, hey, I can't come back. I can't.
- 47:54Speaker 8: It's too much. It's the pressure. The pressure was too much.
- 47:59Speaker 2: So you think it's more stressful to be in a
- 48:02Speaker 2: Michigan team. Oh, I thought that's what you were trying
- 48:05Speaker 2: to say. Sorry, I thought you were a that thought
- 48:07Speaker 2: you O.
- 48:07Speaker 8: Yeah, you're right. I thought you were going to pivot
- 48:09Speaker 8: to playing versus being a fan.
- 48:10Speaker 6: But go ahead.
- 48:11Speaker 2: You think it's more stressful to be a fan of
- 48:14Speaker 2: a National championship team than it is to be a
- 48:18Speaker 2: fan of a team like mine, JP's Jacks.
- 48:22Speaker 1: This year, I think.
- 48:27Speaker 8: Being a fan of Michigan right now is not as stressful.
- 48:30Speaker 8: But when you're in the beginning of November with the
- 48:34Speaker 8: slate of schedule coming up with the Penn States in
- 48:37Speaker 8: the Ohio States, and you know what's at stake and
- 48:39Speaker 8: what the team is capable of as a fan, it's
- 48:41Speaker 8: more stressful than fighting the good fight of being like, hey,
- 48:46Speaker 8: we'll get them. Hey if there wasn't just X, Y,
- 48:48Speaker 8: and Z, because the the standard isn't that high yet
- 48:54Speaker 8: with the Nebraska with South Carolina.
- 48:59Speaker 1: I feel.
- 49:01Speaker 8: I'm not trying to be nasty. This is I'm really
- 49:03Speaker 8: I'm trying to That was nasty, But so what do
- 49:08Speaker 8: you mean, well, what about that was nasty?
- 49:11Speaker 11: You saying that the standard isn't high enough at these
- 49:14Speaker 11: massive programs just because you guys just won a national championship. Yes,
- 49:17Speaker 11: but you also have to remember you guys didn't play
- 49:19Speaker 11: a ranked opponent until November eighth.
- 49:21Speaker 8: Yeah, and listen the Maybe I can clarify where I
- 49:25Speaker 8: didn't mean for it to be nasty when I say
- 49:26Speaker 8: the standards out there, I'm not saying that the coaches
- 49:28Speaker 8: and the players don't want to win a national championship
- 49:29Speaker 8: that's their standard. I'm saying like when you objectively look
- 49:32Speaker 8: at the teams and you see, Okay, from a talent standpoint,
- 49:35Speaker 8: are we capable of doing X, Y and z. It's
- 49:37Speaker 8: either a yes or it's a no. And if the
- 49:39Speaker 8: answer is no, you're still gonna fight for a national championship.
- 49:42Speaker 8: But Michigan had the talent, they had the coaching, and
- 49:45Speaker 8: therefore the standard and the goal was clear. And that's
- 49:49Speaker 8: not trying to take a shot. I hope South Carolina
- 49:52Speaker 8: win's the SEC next year.
- 49:54Speaker 7: Now that's another shot for me here.
- 49:56Speaker 8: I hope South Carolina is in a fight for the
- 49:57Speaker 8: SEC next year. You're right, I shouldn't have said it
- 49:59Speaker 8: like that. Out in Nebraska wins the Big Ten West
- 50:01Speaker 8: next year. I hope, I hope all those things. It's
- 50:06Speaker 8: just it's fucking stressful when you know what you're capable of,
- 50:09Speaker 8: when we're five and three up to your true potential.
- 50:14Speaker 8: It's like, if Michigan didn't win the way they won
- 50:16Speaker 8: this year, then they truly didn't live up to their
- 50:18Speaker 8: true potential. Does that make sense?
- 50:21Speaker 1: Oh, it makes sense, yes, think of all the shortcomings.
- 50:25Speaker 8: Yeah, I didn't mean. I didn't mean to say I
- 50:28Speaker 8: want about to be Bowl eligently we want to reproductive
- 50:32Speaker 8: on this productive.
- 50:33Speaker 7: Conversation, and you have every right to be enjoying this moment.
- 50:38Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, let's yeah, let's not get that.
- 50:40Speaker 8: Yeah, this is good. This is growth. Boys.
- 50:43Speaker 11: What is more stressful the what's more stressful the twenty
- 50:46Speaker 11: twenty three season you just witness, or the possibility of
- 50:49Speaker 11: getting a bad haircut.
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- 51:36Speaker 1: It's a game changer.
- 51:37Speaker 2: And as a matter of fact, the coin of destiny
- 51:40Speaker 2: caught up to me yesterday and I have to get
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- 51:54Speaker 1: Go there, go there, Yes, so.
- 52:00Speaker 8: Gotta do the haircut too.
- 52:01Speaker 1: Yeah, he does that.
- 52:02Speaker 8: When you made that pivot on whatever it lands on
- 52:05Speaker 8: is what you have to stick with. Was really a
- 52:07Speaker 8: game change, was Hetty, because I felt for that. Yeah,
- 52:09Speaker 8: that was that before after the vitamins. I think that
- 52:12Speaker 8: was before. Oh yeah, no, I think that was right before.
- 52:17Speaker 2: I mean that was not just upp in a little
- 52:18Speaker 2: bit because I didn't catch on until the second even
- 52:21Speaker 2: my kid and I was like, wait a minute, yeah,
- 52:24Speaker 2: the only bad guys basically got to eat two in
- 52:26Speaker 2: a row. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, smart though, Hetty, Hendy play.
- 52:30Speaker 8: The uh on my when my mustache was up for
- 52:33Speaker 8: getting shaved, I was nervous. That was a nervous that
- 52:36Speaker 8: added on to the nerves when I really wasn't even
- 52:39Speaker 8: passionate about it. How do we feel about the stream
- 52:41Speaker 8: boys in the back. Do we like doing it? Do
- 52:43Speaker 8: we enjoy doing Is that something we want to go
- 52:44Speaker 8: down the road of more?
- 52:45Speaker 1: Yeah?
- 52:46Speaker 11: I thought that was very beneficial. I mean, we were
- 52:49Speaker 11: all new to the game, so whoever watched thanks for
- 52:52Speaker 11: putting up with some of the pitfalls we experience. We
- 52:55Speaker 11: need to figure out I think some better audio, not equipment,
- 52:59Speaker 11: but just better sound spacing so that people are just
- 53:03Speaker 11: a little too far from the mics. I think that
- 53:06Speaker 11: we can game plan a little bit more in like
- 53:08Speaker 11: the dead space areas. I think the Coin of Destiny
- 53:10Speaker 11: helped really well to fill those commercial breaks. I do
- 53:14Speaker 11: know we had some fun playing where Wolf. I don't
- 53:17Speaker 11: know if the chat necessarily loved it sober guys suck,
- 53:23Speaker 11: but I think it was awesome and I think there's
- 53:25Speaker 11: a lot of good things that we can go down
- 53:27Speaker 11: that that road with.
- 53:28Speaker 7: But that's my opinion.
- 53:29Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with that.
- 53:31Speaker 8: I enjoyed it. When you say audio space is my
- 53:34Speaker 8: my spot's not, I think.
- 53:35Speaker 7: You were fine.
- 53:36Speaker 11: I just think at some point, yeah, we need more mics,
- 53:39Speaker 11: and we probably need to stand so they're directionally facing
- 53:41Speaker 11: instead of sitting on a.
- 53:42Speaker 7: Table, just kind of like in the whatever sinity.
- 53:46Speaker 11: Yeah, and people you just don't realize it and you're
- 53:49Speaker 11: laying back, or you you walked away a little bit
- 53:51Speaker 11: and you say something and it like picks up in
- 53:53Speaker 11: and out, like I think the like peaky Blinders, either
- 53:58Speaker 11: that or some other corner of dey see the audio. No,
- 54:01Speaker 11: it was the question that won the giveaway. Would you
- 54:04Speaker 11: rather Michigan win the National Championship and Connor knock Mike
- 54:09Speaker 11: out or vice versa? A great question, A great question,
- 54:12Speaker 11: but we weren't talking in the mic, so it didn't
- 54:14Speaker 11: even get picked up.
- 54:16Speaker 1: We weren't. I thought I was holding it.
- 54:17Speaker 8: No, I was be hot. When you know that little
- 54:20Speaker 8: like coffee table area if you're on the other side,
- 54:22Speaker 8: the coffee table area doesn't pick up, And that's where
- 54:23Speaker 8: I was standing because we were in the middle of
- 54:25Speaker 8: trying to do were Wolf as well. Yeah, but more
- 54:28Speaker 8: mic stands. I think that's a good area too. It's fun,
- 54:31Speaker 8: and then we have like, yeah, if we have some
- 54:32Speaker 8: game plan stuff, yeah, more just like the audience involved.
- 54:35Speaker 2: Ructure to a live stream. We basically just said like, hey,
- 54:37Speaker 2: let's do a live stream. Michigan's you know, playing in
- 54:40Speaker 2: the Nattie. Yeah, yeah, I thought I was solid.
- 54:43Speaker 8: I enjoyed it.
- 54:44Speaker 1: I was I was surprised we had one point five
- 54:46Speaker 1: in there.
- 54:47Speaker 2: Yeah, because when we were expectations, we're just like, just
- 54:50Speaker 2: expect the worst people.
- 54:53Speaker 8: I thought, if you I thought, if we get five
- 54:54Speaker 8: hundred people in there at one time, I was like,
- 54:56Speaker 8: we're we're doing it. And I thought I'd be like
- 54:57Speaker 8: when you go like Instagram Live, it'll like shoot up
- 55:00Speaker 8: and then quickly plummet back down.
- 55:01Speaker 7: Yeah, we stayed above eleven hundred all night.
- 55:04Speaker 1: We probably do some fun stuff at the shop.
- 55:06Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 55:07Speaker 11: Well, I mean they said that like in the chat,
- 55:09Speaker 11: like they want to see a risk stream, you know,
- 55:11Speaker 11: we get think of that ideas where if we really
- 55:14Speaker 11: invest in the product, it could be fun and entertaining.
- 55:17Speaker 8: I was talking about, uh, talking about that with Tailor.
- 55:19Speaker 8: How would we do the risk stream? Would we do
- 55:20Speaker 8: it where you and I are at one of each
- 55:22Speaker 8: other's houses or we have our individual stream you could.
- 55:25Speaker 2: We could do that, but we could also, like I think,
- 55:27Speaker 2: set up cameras around that spot over there, and we
- 55:29Speaker 2: were just playing like a four player risk game just
- 55:32Speaker 2: on the same screen where we just pass the controller
- 55:34Speaker 2: and we're in front of each other and then as
- 55:36Speaker 2: it's going on, like maybe you know, Mitch has.
- 55:38Speaker 11: To do stuff, we can we can game cast to
- 55:41Speaker 11: the actions that guy, huh, we'll get we can game cast.
- 55:44Speaker 1: But there's there's also like I mean, the boys will
- 55:47Speaker 1: know more than we do.
- 55:47Speaker 2: But I want to say that there is stuff where
- 55:50Speaker 2: if the cameras are on us, but then they can
- 55:51Speaker 2: have the screen that we're looking at show like on there.
- 55:55Speaker 7: That's what I'm saying, you can game cast. This is
- 55:56Speaker 7: just like what that is actual?
- 55:59Speaker 11: Like what if you're playing Xbox, we can have that
- 56:01Speaker 11: majority on the screen and then like the bottom right
- 56:03Speaker 11: would be or vice versa, like if we.
- 56:05Speaker 1: Were playing remote Yes, yeah, yeah with that.
- 56:08Speaker 8: I would love to and I've said this a few times,
- 56:10Speaker 8: I would love to. As we get farther into twenty
- 56:12Speaker 8: twenty four stream red de Redeption two, a long stream,
- 56:18Speaker 8: just kind of get back and not just do it
- 56:20Speaker 8: the whole way through, but I pick.
- 56:21Speaker 2: Up this time at the you know, yeah you could
- 56:23Speaker 2: you could, however the setup would be, but you just
- 56:25Speaker 2: at your house set up like what is it twitch?
- 56:27Speaker 1: Like just get a Twitch channel.
- 56:30Speaker 2: If we did bust into like a bus and Twitch
- 56:32Speaker 2: channel and you're just like I'm going live, and ultimately
- 56:35Speaker 2: you would press whatever buttons it is and then you
- 56:36Speaker 2: just go live.
- 56:37Speaker 8: Yeah, and then be able to show me and then
- 56:38Speaker 8: she also show that, like show your.
- 56:40Speaker 2: Face and then I think the screen right, gamecast or whatever,
- 56:43Speaker 2: whatever it's that's cool.
- 56:44Speaker 8: I messed with that.
- 56:45Speaker 1: You go, yeah, learn a new word, game cast. Yeah.
- 56:50Speaker 2: But now that we're on and listen blue, they don't
- 56:54Speaker 2: have to accept me whatsoever at all. But now that
- 56:56Speaker 2: it's a new year, a fresh start, I will be
- 56:59Speaker 2: a lot more supportive of you in the future whether
- 57:02Speaker 2: and you don't have to accept that. No, at the
- 57:05Speaker 2: end of the day, Like I know, it's my actions
- 57:06Speaker 2: that are going to build that trust back. But with
- 57:10Speaker 2: the year being over and seeing all that through like
- 57:12Speaker 2: a fresh start, it would be a different approach.
- 57:15Speaker 8: And you know a couple of things. One, let's big
- 57:18Speaker 8: of you. Two, I can't wait to see how long
- 57:21Speaker 8: that lasts.
- 57:22Speaker 2: Bro think about the years prior to that, I was
- 57:25Speaker 2: battling for the Big ten until like that took as
- 57:28Speaker 2: much life as Nebraska losing.
- 57:29Speaker 8: I remember three years ago when Mission was in their
- 57:31Speaker 8: first B ten championship. There's actually a clip, so we
- 57:33Speaker 8: posted it under that video of you if you're saying
- 57:36Speaker 8: go blue. Yeah, And I watched it over and over again, thinking, man,
- 57:40Speaker 8: remember when we were at a huge.
- 57:42Speaker 1: Trying to flip Big eb like we had a whole
- 57:44Speaker 1: big being them on board?
- 57:45Speaker 8: Like was that last year? Two years ago?
- 57:49Speaker 2: I think both, I mean we were, I mean we
- 57:51Speaker 2: were as pro Big ten as as it got. I
- 57:54Speaker 2: know both times you guys went to Big ten because
- 57:57Speaker 2: I remember, No, that was last year, because two years
- 57:59Speaker 2: ago when we're in Vegas and I was having to
- 58:01Speaker 2: watch the Big ten basically win in the December games
- 58:04Speaker 2: and then lose all the January games.
- 58:07Speaker 8: Yeah, what about the record?
- 58:09Speaker 6: Is this?
- 58:09Speaker 8: Are we gonna do Jack?
- 58:11Speaker 1: We got to do that, Jake, Let's go quickly.
- 58:13Speaker 8: Let's go quickly through Nebraska and Michigan schedule.
- 58:17Speaker 7: We've done this, man, you guys know I maybe we've
- 58:19Speaker 7: done twenty twenty four.
- 58:20Speaker 8: Though, yeah, we did it a little bit. We know
- 58:23Speaker 8: you tweeted about it. We haven't really talked about.
- 58:25Speaker 2: You said their first game, you can't tell me they
- 58:28Speaker 2: can't start six, and oh is all I said?
- 58:30Speaker 8: It is true?
- 58:30Speaker 1: Like I get that that's funny, but that's also true.
- 58:33Speaker 8: I could genuinely see five and one who's the lass
- 58:37Speaker 8: to d I think the only team you have to
- 58:38Speaker 8: worry about in those first six games is Colorado, especially early,
- 58:42Speaker 8: especially early, and especially like this is the first year.
- 58:44Speaker 8: They're gonna get the transfers, they're gonna get more and
- 58:47Speaker 8: I l money they're gonna be like, oh we saw
- 58:49Speaker 8: in the beginning of Colorado they could be legit.
- 58:51Speaker 2: Do not sleep on Illinois. I mean we did beat
- 58:55Speaker 2: their ass, but they are a good football team.
- 58:57Speaker 8: For do you beat you'all aast year too? Yeah?
- 59:00Speaker 1: No, no, we beeper do like thirty one to fourteen?
- 59:02Speaker 2: Oh no, shit, yes, when Jeff Simms came back in
- 59:05Speaker 2: and then snappy phone, then they took it back to
- 59:07Speaker 2: the house.
- 59:07Speaker 8: That poor bastard. He had a worst date than seventy
- 59:09Speaker 8: three for Washington. He had a worst season.
- 59:12Speaker 1: I mean go back to that.
- 59:16Speaker 8: Well, now who do they play? They play anybody mean, okay, yeah, yeah,
- 59:20Speaker 8: it gets a little harry towards the end, right, but
- 59:23Speaker 8: if you go eight, no, oh damn, it's at USC.
- 59:29Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying.
- 59:29Speaker 9: Against a host state and you got new team identity
- 59:31Speaker 9: though more belief, Oh yeah.
- 59:33Speaker 8: You get yeah, and I hope you'll beat a hostage
- 59:36Speaker 8: asks that would be so awesome to see at the
- 59:40Speaker 8: shoe too.
- 59:42Speaker 3: Yeah, I have bad memories at the shoe. Same we
- 59:44Speaker 3: got whooped. We did not get whooped, but it was close.
- 59:49Speaker 3: Axton Miller, Pull up, pull up Michigan's twenty four schedule.
- 59:56Speaker 8: It's nasty.
- 59:57Speaker 2: You guys have a tough schedule. I'm excited in a
- 1:00:01Speaker 2: couple of years playing Tennessee.
- 1:00:02Speaker 7: Yeah, it's gonna be awesome.
- 1:00:03Speaker 8: What is that?
- 1:00:04Speaker 7: Is that next year?
- 1:00:05Speaker 2: I think twenty twenty six, right, twenty Texas Week two?
- 1:00:14Speaker 2: US WEE Week four? Who's i Washington at Washington? The
- 1:00:19Speaker 2: pendix will be gone?
- 1:00:20Speaker 8: Yeah, but still Washington is a tough place to play.
- 1:00:23Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's true. It'd be a fun game to
- 1:00:26Speaker 2: go to is Washington? Who's idle by?
- 1:00:31Speaker 8: Oh that's what I was saying. Why is this just
- 1:00:33Speaker 8: say bye week?
- 1:00:34Speaker 1: Hey? I would Yeah, I don't say please.
- 1:00:38Speaker 8: That's crazy. Yeah, but this is I mean, you get
- 1:00:44Speaker 8: past Texas, you're eleven, and we're going against the hot state.
- 1:00:48Speaker 1: We're going to Ohio State USC, Washington, Texas.
- 1:00:51Speaker 8: Week two, Texas Arkansas State USC. Yeah. Yeah, yeah we too,
- 1:01:02Speaker 8: number seventh. We can't go to it? Why not because
- 1:01:05Speaker 8: we're going to Nebraska Colorado.
- 1:01:07Speaker 1: Oh that sucks. They're the same weekend.
- 1:01:09Speaker 8: Unique.
- 1:01:10Speaker 1: Uh, Nebraska Colorado is going to be.
- 1:01:13Speaker 8: That'll be fun. That in Lincoln, Yeah, Lincoln, Yeah, that'll
- 1:01:18Speaker 8: be awesome. There's a there's gonna be we're in the
- 1:01:22Speaker 8: talks of it right now, and we won't say everything,
- 1:01:24Speaker 8: but the Fall Tour is gonna be a little bit
- 1:01:25Speaker 8: different next year, which we're excited about a little more fluid,
- 1:01:29Speaker 8: a little more Yeah, we'll just say that, a little
- 1:01:32Speaker 8: more fluid.
- 1:01:34Speaker 1: We need to let we need to let Barceol know
- 1:01:37Speaker 1: that too. Yeah, they might on us.
- 1:01:40Speaker 8: Yeah, is there any more maybe let everyone know? Yeah?
- 1:01:45Speaker 8: Is there any more college football talk we want to
- 1:01:48Speaker 8: get into before we go to the playoff picture because
- 1:01:50Speaker 8: the first week of the playoffs is up. Anybody got anything? Coop?
- 1:01:55Speaker 8: Is there anything you want to say to defend yourself
- 1:01:57Speaker 8: because you last time heard the mic it was a tough. Look.
- 1:02:00Speaker 1: No he doesn't he got it. He got his up,
- 1:02:03Speaker 1: he'll get it next time, all.
- 1:02:04Speaker 8: Right, fair enough, that's tough. He's got canceled by will
- 1:02:10Speaker 8: all right. Playoff picture threw him in for a series, Yeah,
- 1:02:13Speaker 8: get it. We saw he obviously needs more coaching.
- 1:02:15Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll get him right.
- 1:02:16Speaker 8: Listen, kid, you made mistakes, but they're not they're fixable mistakes.
- 1:02:19Speaker 8: We're protecting you, that you and the players around. Yeah,
- 1:02:24Speaker 8: so the NFL pull the pull the playoff picture up?
- 1:02:26Speaker 1: Can we can we give a little sneak peek? Can
- 1:02:28Speaker 1: we tip off who's gonna be on next week?
- 1:02:31Speaker 8: Yeah, we can give a little tip off. Yeah, go
- 1:02:34Speaker 8: for it, like say the name. Yeah, present the name,
- 1:02:38Speaker 8: but don't just say the name. Give a little give
- 1:02:40Speaker 8: me some seasoning on that. Give a little like, don't
- 1:02:43Speaker 8: wwe but get these people excited.
- 1:02:46Speaker 1: Okay, how many Natties has he won?
- 1:02:53Speaker 6: Two?
- 1:02:54Speaker 2: He's won two national titles. He sent several people into
- 1:02:59Speaker 2: outers base.
- 1:03:00Speaker 8: Nice with his.
- 1:03:07Speaker 2: Arm.
- 1:03:07Speaker 12: Arm.
- 1:03:08Speaker 8: He's just turned more into a riddle. But I kind
- 1:03:10Speaker 8: of dig it.
- 1:03:11Speaker 1: I know he's one.
- 1:03:14Speaker 2: A prestigious trophy in college. Yeah, he's won some hardware.
- 1:03:20Speaker 2: He's won the NFL.
- 1:03:22Speaker 8: More than two Pro Bowls. He is from Florida. Yeah,
- 1:03:31Speaker 8: he's of royalty Royalty. He's built like, uh, he's built
- 1:03:38Speaker 8: like he's built like an action figure.
- 1:03:42Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of that Mortal combat character, the horse.
- 1:03:45Speaker 12: I don't know much about more combat. Yeah, that's all
- 1:03:52Speaker 12: we'll say. So we're not gonna say the name. No,
- 1:03:58Speaker 12: I gotta I gotta say, I gotta say the name.
- 1:03:59Speaker 12: But put some spice on it. And he goes into
- 1:04:01Speaker 12: this crazy riddle. It's like, who am I? Yeah, yeah,
- 1:04:07Speaker 12: all right, listen. AFC picture Baltimore Ravens.
- 1:04:10Speaker 8: They have a bye. The Houston Texans, who won the
- 1:04:14Speaker 8: AFC South after the Tennessee Titans defeated the Jacksonville Jaguars,
- 1:04:19Speaker 8: are playing Joe Flacco and the Cleveland Browns. Kansas City
- 1:04:24Speaker 8: will have a rematch in the CONTINENTZ of the United
- 1:04:27Speaker 8: States against the Miami Dolphins. The Buffalo Bills will take
- 1:04:31Speaker 8: on the Pittsburgh Steelers. Mike Tomlin, my god, let's talk
- 1:04:35Speaker 8: about the AFC picture real quick. Who do we see winning?
- 1:04:37Speaker 8: Who's gonna play Baltimore next week?
- 1:04:42Speaker 1: I would love to see.
- 1:04:46Speaker 8: Give me give me Houston Cleveland first. Just tell me how.
- 1:04:50Speaker 2: I would love to see Flacco go all the way. However,
- 1:04:53Speaker 2: I think Houston gets him. I like, I think c J.
- 1:04:56Speaker 2: Stroud is special. I think you got him, especially in
- 1:05:01Speaker 2: the fourth quarter. I like, I like putting my money
- 1:05:03Speaker 2: on CJ. Stroud, So I got Houston beat in Cleveland.
- 1:05:07Speaker 8: I agree with that. I think Houston's got to get
- 1:05:08Speaker 8: offensive line and they're gonna do pretty decent. But Cleveland's
- 1:05:12Speaker 8: defensive line is pretty incredible. Their past defense is really good.
- 1:05:15Speaker 8: I think Joe Flacco as electric as he's been. We
- 1:05:17Speaker 8: talked about a couple of weeks ago, throwing the interceptions.
- 1:05:20Speaker 8: Those just count for more when he gets to the playoffs.
- 1:05:23Speaker 8: And I think CJ. Stroud is one of those cats
- 1:05:26Speaker 8: in the making right now.
- 1:05:28Speaker 1: In one of those Nico Collins. Like the way he
- 1:05:31Speaker 1: was playing last week.
- 1:05:33Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, somebody said that too, Like while it was
- 1:05:37Speaker 2: while he was like trucking the fuck out of somebody,
- 1:05:40Speaker 2: he was getting those yards after catch. But yeah, I
- 1:05:42Speaker 2: just think that they're firing at the right time. Healthy
- 1:05:46Speaker 2: slow E's dialing it up for him. The OC coach
- 1:05:49Speaker 2: Ryan's like they have the momentum going into this game.
- 1:05:52Speaker 2: I know if honestly, I feel like the Browns don't
- 1:05:55Speaker 2: because they've like kind of made you know, lemonade out
- 1:05:57Speaker 2: of shit the way that their quarterbacks have went down
- 1:05:59Speaker 2: and black.
- 1:06:00Speaker 8: Was kind of came in and it's so hard to
- 1:06:01Speaker 8: make lemonade and ship. Yeah, one of the hardest things
- 1:06:03Speaker 8: to do. Yeah, I think, like, like if it wasn't
- 1:06:06Speaker 8: for Stefan's key coach, Ryan wins the Coach of the
- 1:06:10Speaker 8: Year award.
- 1:06:13Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean yeah, those are both they both haven't
- 1:06:15Speaker 2: have had incredible seasons.
- 1:06:17Speaker 8: Gonna be an awesome game. I think that the em
- 1:06:18Speaker 8: will come down to the wire next game, Kansas City
- 1:06:20Speaker 8: versus It. Wait, does anybody feel different Houston over Cleveland.
- 1:06:26Speaker 5: I think Cleveland's defense is really really good. They are
- 1:06:29Speaker 5: I think might have a tough time against them. I
- 1:06:33Speaker 5: think it would be sick to see Joe Flacco back
- 1:06:35Speaker 5: in Baltimore.
- 1:06:37Speaker 2: Yeah, but I don't see him going to Baltimore because,
- 1:06:40Speaker 2: in my opinion, Miami beats Kansas City at Kansas City.
- 1:06:43Speaker 2: Really Yeah, I think this is it. Yeah, but if
- 1:06:48Speaker 2: if if it's gonna happen any year, it'd be this year.
- 1:06:52Speaker 7: Last year.
- 1:06:54Speaker 8: Yeah yeah yah, I mean we we know that wills
- 1:06:56Speaker 8: takes up been like his long term takes have been tough.
- 1:07:01Speaker 8: All right, So you think Cleveland's gonna beat Houston match
- 1:07:03Speaker 8: everybody else is on Houston seal Kansas City. Miami Will
- 1:07:07Speaker 8: already said Miami, I'm gonna actually take Kansas City in
- 1:07:09Speaker 8: this I think it's not so much about Kansas City
- 1:07:12Speaker 8: being better than Miami. I think Miami has had some
- 1:07:15Speaker 8: crucial injuries with their two defensive ends getting hurt.
- 1:07:18Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:07:19Speaker 8: I think that Kansas City's been in this position so
- 1:07:24Speaker 8: many times that the moment's not gonna be too big
- 1:07:26Speaker 8: to them, even though they know their team's not as
- 1:07:27Speaker 8: good as it happened in years past. So for that reason,
- 1:07:30Speaker 8: I'm gonna have to take Kansas City in this one.
- 1:07:32Speaker 8: And their their vets in the playoffs, their vets in
- 1:07:34Speaker 8: the playoffs, They the process, they know what time it
- 1:07:37Speaker 8: is in Yeah, in Kansas City, these fans, like these
- 1:07:40Speaker 8: fans just know, like, hey, we know the playoffs are
- 1:07:41Speaker 8: coming up. They like already, They've been waiting for this
- 1:07:44Speaker 8: for a while. Yeah, waiting for a while. And of all,
- 1:07:48Speaker 8: as disappointing as Kansas City has been this year to
- 1:07:50Speaker 8: the three seed, it's not crazy.
- 1:07:52Speaker 1: I know, I know.
- 1:07:53Speaker 2: I hate that uh Kelsey didn't get the his eight
- 1:07:56Speaker 2: thousand yard season. He was sixteen yards out from it.
- 1:07:59Speaker 8: That's crazy, man.
- 1:08:01Speaker 1: I think streak is over.
- 1:08:03Speaker 5: Yeah, I think he's That was the longest streak for
- 1:08:05Speaker 5: a tight end.
- 1:08:05Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:08:06Speaker 8: Yeah, this before the season, people were saying, like, if
- 1:08:09Speaker 8: Kelsey gets the a thousand yard season, this cementum is
- 1:08:12Speaker 8: the goat. Yeah, but I still there's still an argument
- 1:08:15Speaker 8: for it, obviously, but crazy. All right, does anybody who
- 1:08:19Speaker 8: JP who you got?
- 1:08:20Speaker 6: I'm rocking with the Dolphins?
- 1:08:21Speaker 8: Dolphins? Mitchie in the city where he's going, Jackie.
- 1:08:26Speaker 7: I want to be with the Dolphins.
- 1:08:28Speaker 11: But you make good points defense there they are been struggling. Yeah,
- 1:08:33Speaker 11: so I think Casey Coop I got Casey.
- 1:08:38Speaker 1: Dolphins. I think Tua gets it done.
- 1:08:41Speaker 2: All right, all right, all right, Buffalo is gonna mop Pittsburgh.
- 1:08:46Speaker 8: I think Buffalo is the most dangerous team in the
- 1:08:48Speaker 8: AFC picture. And it's crazy, like you look at the
- 1:08:51Speaker 8: two seat, You're like, well that the two seed. It's like, okay,
- 1:08:53Speaker 8: you didn't watch ball thing because they were pronounced dead
- 1:08:54Speaker 8: in October. This team had no life. They fire their
- 1:08:58Speaker 8: oc they finally get back on track. A Buffalo versus Miami.
- 1:09:01Speaker 8: Buffalo played bad, Josh Allen played bad. So it was
- 1:09:03Speaker 8: a pick in the pick in the end zone. Another
- 1:09:06Speaker 8: pick and get sacked for a funnel. That's a turnover.
- 1:09:08Speaker 8: And their defense was without Matt Mulano, without a couple
- 1:09:11Speaker 8: of key players that had injuries sustained earlier in the
- 1:09:14Speaker 8: year and still held that high flying Miami offense to
- 1:09:18Speaker 8: fourteen points. That is that's who they're gonna Josh Allen
- 1:09:23Speaker 8: is going to make big plays for them. That's gonna
- 1:09:24Speaker 8: get them their wins. But the defense is gonna keep
- 1:09:27Speaker 8: them in position to win.
- 1:09:27Speaker 1: Do we know the injury report on DJ Watt third.
- 1:09:32Speaker 8: Grade mcl yeah, I think that way. I thought it
- 1:09:36Speaker 8: was gonna be way worse we were talking about in
- 1:09:37Speaker 8: the plane. I thought it was going to be way worse.
- 1:09:40Speaker 7: Sprained MCO.
- 1:09:41Speaker 8: He'll be out there, he's yeah, he's Award Daddy, He'll
- 1:09:44Speaker 8: be out There's award.
- 1:09:45Speaker 1: I think Buffalo handles him. On the NFC. You got, uh,
- 1:09:52Speaker 1: Tampa Bay, Philly at Tampa Bay. All right.
- 1:09:55Speaker 8: I feel like we might be on the same page
- 1:09:56Speaker 8: of this. Somebody count to three and say, who's gonna
- 1:09:58Speaker 8: win through Tampa Bay? Here's all right? Perfect?
- 1:10:04Speaker 1: I think so too.
- 1:10:06Speaker 2: Uh.
- 1:10:06Speaker 1: And again we don't. I don't know the injury report.
- 1:10:08Speaker 1: How is Jalen doing?
- 1:10:11Speaker 8: Get his throat?
- 1:10:12Speaker 1: He is singer. They will keep it on.
- 1:10:16Speaker 8: He cannot. He will.
- 1:10:19Speaker 1: About a brown.
- 1:10:22Speaker 7: Anything with him.
- 1:10:23Speaker 1: Yeah, those will all be on the low.
- 1:10:24Speaker 7: It wasn't an a c L. I know that fool,
- 1:10:26Speaker 7: so I don't think he comes back.
- 1:10:29Speaker 8: He had a players only meeting before the game, allegedly
- 1:10:34Speaker 8: held the players only meeting like the day of the game.
- 1:10:37Speaker 2: Yeah, they've just kind of they've not been the they've
- 1:10:39Speaker 2: not been that Philadelphia team, especially late in the season.
- 1:10:43Speaker 1: Like they were last year.
- 1:10:44Speaker 8: It's by the Giants to man, not the Did they
- 1:10:48Speaker 8: have a whole lot?
- 1:10:48Speaker 5: Oh?
- 1:10:49Speaker 1: Yeah?
- 1:10:49Speaker 2: Were they still playing for the one seed? If they
- 1:10:50Speaker 2: would have won, would they have been or would they
- 1:10:52Speaker 2: have won the East? The one seed but won the East? Yeah?
- 1:10:57Speaker 2: I think I think Tampa Bay Man at Tampa. Then
- 1:11:00Speaker 2: the second game, you got the Rams, Matt Stafford travel.
- 1:11:03Speaker 8: Everybody Affilly does Philly. Okay, whatever, let's move on. Stafford
- 1:11:09Speaker 8: traveling back to Detroit.
- 1:11:11Speaker 2: Round one of the playoffs in Detroit, NFC nor champs,
- 1:11:18Speaker 2: Jared Goff against his old.
- 1:11:19Speaker 8: Team, Stafford against his old team. Yeah, who you got
- 1:11:24Speaker 8: this team? This is the best storyline. This is the
- 1:11:28Speaker 8: best storyline in UH in the playoffs right now? Who's
- 1:11:31Speaker 8: gonna win this game? Two quarterbacks to play for the
- 1:11:32Speaker 8: opposite team. I it's let me work through this. In
- 1:11:36Speaker 8: my head a little bit because I feel like the
- 1:11:38Speaker 8: guy with the most approve is Jared Goff, because Matthew
- 1:11:41Speaker 8: Stafford goes to the Rams and gets his Super Bowl
- 1:11:44Speaker 8: to the point where it's like, Jared Goff, he wasn't
- 1:11:46Speaker 8: the answer. They were right to get get rid of him.
- 1:11:49Speaker 8: Detroit should not be the four seed or the four seed,
- 1:11:52Speaker 8: three seed seed, the three seed they should be. They
- 1:11:55Speaker 8: should have been fighting for that one seed against San
- 1:11:56Speaker 8: Francisco in Week eighteen. But because of the refs against
- 1:12:00Speaker 8: the Cowboys is a bad deal. I think the Rams
- 1:12:05Speaker 8: win this. I think the Rams are gonna win this,
- 1:12:08Speaker 8: and I think it's gonna be a good game. But
- 1:12:12Speaker 8: I think Dan Campbell, as much as you love him
- 1:12:14Speaker 8: for the risks he takes in the playoffs, like I
- 1:12:18Speaker 8: just if he takes that kind of risk and has
- 1:12:21Speaker 8: the opportunity to buy him in the ass, has the
- 1:12:22Speaker 8: opportunity to give you greatness. It's a living, live by
- 1:12:25Speaker 8: the store, die by the short situation. But Stafford, they
- 1:12:29Speaker 8: got hot quick. They were kind of similar to the Bills,
- 1:12:31Speaker 8: where everyone's like, Okay, yeah, that's the Niners division. Don't
- 1:12:34Speaker 8: worry about anybody else in there now, Like the Rams
- 1:12:36Speaker 8: have like come back in I think they are.
- 1:12:37Speaker 1: I think mcvay's got a shot to be coach of
- 1:12:39Speaker 1: the year.
- 1:12:40Speaker 2: I mean they weren't talked about at all yeah before
- 1:12:42Speaker 2: the season started, and they've kind of like, you know,
- 1:12:46Speaker 2: they've had a lot of like ups and down start
- 1:12:48Speaker 2: out the season because they started off what.
- 1:12:52Speaker 1: They started off like was it one in five or no,
- 1:12:54Speaker 1: not one in five.
- 1:12:56Speaker 2: They started off bad though, and then started rattling off
- 1:12:59Speaker 2: a winning streak in the back half of the year,
- 1:13:00Speaker 2: similar to you guys in twenty twenty nineteen whatever that
- 1:13:04Speaker 2: was the Bills. This year, Yeah, so I think mcvay's
- 1:13:08Speaker 2: got a shot to be coach of the year. Man,
- 1:13:10Speaker 2: I hate this game because I want both teams to win.
- 1:13:13Speaker 2: I know, I want to see Detroit go a little bit.
- 1:13:15Speaker 2: I want to see the Rams go a little bit,
- 1:13:17Speaker 2: like I would love to see the Rams go as
- 1:13:18Speaker 2: a sixth seed, like go all the way to the
- 1:13:20Speaker 2: super Bowl. So yeah, whoever wins this game, I'm gonna
- 1:13:26Speaker 2: be pulling forward to get to the NFC Championship against
- 1:13:29Speaker 2: San Fran because I want Sam Fran to go to
- 1:13:31Speaker 2: and that's like another team I'm kind of rooting for so,
- 1:13:34Speaker 2: I have no clue.
- 1:13:36Speaker 1: I have no clue.
- 1:13:37Speaker 2: I have no clue who I want to win. Who
- 1:13:38Speaker 2: I think wins. I think Detroit. I think they got
- 1:13:44Speaker 2: the horses. I want Detroit to win. I think the
- 1:13:47Speaker 2: Rams win. We're split boys. What we got JP?
- 1:13:51Speaker 1: I want them? I got the Rams, I think McVeigh.
- 1:13:55Speaker 1: I'm yeah, I know.
- 1:13:57Speaker 2: And it would be sick like them going to Detroit
- 1:14:00Speaker 2: because you use no schematically, like they're coming with everything, and.
- 1:14:03Speaker 9: I think Detroit might be like too fired up, too emotional.
- 1:14:07Speaker 9: You know, they might have like an emotional report out.
- 1:14:10Speaker 8: I don't know.
- 1:14:13Speaker 2: That's another injury you gotta think about. Shout out Sam
- 1:14:18Speaker 2: Laporter for as a rookie making the Pro Bowl as
- 1:14:21Speaker 2: a rookie.
- 1:14:22Speaker 1: That's big time.
- 1:14:26Speaker 2: Great, Yes, Sam, Sam laporta outside shot that'll be on
- 1:14:30Speaker 2: the low, like now that it's playoff time, we won't
- 1:14:31Speaker 2: know it. Had nothing about these injuries. But yeah, what's
- 1:14:36Speaker 2: the next game? You got green Bay traveling to Dallas?
- 1:14:40Speaker 2: Is this the year that Dallas wins one? No, you
- 1:14:46Speaker 2: don't think so.
- 1:14:47Speaker 10: No.
- 1:14:47Speaker 1: I think green Bay gets them.
- 1:14:48Speaker 8: I think green Bay wins this game. I think Lafleur
- 1:14:51Speaker 8: and Love win this game. Against the Cowboys. It's gonna
- 1:14:54Speaker 8: come down to a situational ball that the Cowboys have
- 1:14:58Speaker 8: proven time and time again they can't overcome. Yeah, and
- 1:15:00Speaker 8: I think I think the Cowboys lose to the green
- 1:15:03Speaker 8: Bay Packers.
- 1:15:03Speaker 2: I want green Bay to win, but I think Dallas.
- 1:15:06Speaker 2: I think Dallas takes care of business for the first time.
- 1:15:08Speaker 1: I just do them at home.
- 1:15:10Speaker 2: If they're a different fucking team, man, Yeah, like they're
- 1:15:14Speaker 2: They are so tough at home, and I do. I
- 1:15:17Speaker 2: think they fumble the bag in round two. But I
- 1:15:19Speaker 2: want green Bay to win because the staff that we
- 1:15:21Speaker 2: know over there. But I think Dallas wins.
- 1:15:25Speaker 8: Gotta rich isen in twenty minutes. Okay, but that's for
- 1:15:28Speaker 8: ten minutes. So if you guys, we can keep it going.
- 1:15:30Speaker 8: If you guys want, all right, we're gonna be doing
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- 1:16:04Speaker 8: I believe the San Francisco forty nine Ers will be
- 1:16:12Speaker 8: playing the Buffalo Bills in the Super Bowl, and I
- 1:16:16Speaker 8: have the San Francisco forty nine Ers winning that Super Bowl.
- 1:16:19Speaker 8: We had talked about it last night about the Baltimore Ravens.
- 1:16:21Speaker 8: It'd be great to have a hardball year here. I
- 1:16:24Speaker 8: think that would be awesome. I would not be upset
- 1:16:26Speaker 8: about that at all. I just think the way Buffalo's
- 1:16:28Speaker 8: kind of bought through that adversity put themselves in the
- 1:16:30Speaker 8: position win when they had to, and they have the
- 1:16:33Speaker 8: talent at quarterback. It's just their year to get it done.
- 1:16:36Speaker 8: Especially with the way Kansas City's kind of played the
- 1:16:38Speaker 8: back half of the year there. I think they're the team.
- 1:16:41Speaker 8: I think they're a team that comes to the AFC,
- 1:16:43Speaker 8: and I think as long as San Francisco stays healthy
- 1:16:45Speaker 8: and they don't run into a situation they did last
- 1:16:47Speaker 8: year against the Eagles in the NFC Championship, the forty
- 1:16:50Speaker 8: nine Ers should absolutely go and win this Super Bowl.
- 1:16:54Speaker 8: They have the talent, they have the coaching staff, they
- 1:16:56Speaker 8: have the players. Willie, who do you got?
- 1:17:00Speaker 1: Mhm strong pick and then I would agree with.
- 1:17:06Speaker 12: But just to be different, yeah yeah, yeah, mix it
- 1:17:08Speaker 12: up a little bits.
- 1:17:10Speaker 2: I have changed, Like, okay, so I hate choosing both
- 1:17:14Speaker 2: one seeds, but I do think Baltimore and San France
- 1:17:16Speaker 2: like them repeating in the Super Bowl would be an
- 1:17:19Speaker 2: iconic super Bowl. I love Buffalo, I kind of I'm
- 1:17:21Speaker 2: like rooting for Buffalo to go. But again, to be
- 1:17:23Speaker 2: different from yours, my chaos super Bowl, My chaos super Bowl.
- 1:17:28Speaker 1: Is give me the rams coming out of the NFC.
- 1:17:44Speaker 8: That's chaos.
- 1:17:50Speaker 1: I think Buffalo.
- 1:17:54Speaker 7: I don't know.
- 1:17:55Speaker 1: Yeah, it's hard to get past Buffalo. So Buffalo wins.
- 1:17:58Speaker 2: Like let's just say, you know, if Kansas City wins,
- 1:18:00Speaker 2: it'll be Kansas City at Buffalo. I think Buffalo wins
- 1:18:03Speaker 2: that one because it'll be at Buffalo.
- 1:18:05Speaker 1: But again, if.
- 1:18:05Speaker 2: Miami were to upset them, Miami would go to Baltimore
- 1:18:09Speaker 2: and then Houston would travel to Buffalo. I think Buffalo
- 1:18:12Speaker 2: wins at Buffalo, and then I think with all that
- 1:18:16Speaker 2: momentum going into that AFC Championship game, I think Buffalo
- 1:18:20Speaker 2: gets it done against Baltimore.
- 1:18:23Speaker 8: I think the hardest game for Baltimore is going to
- 1:18:25Speaker 8: be that divisional game. If they can win the divisional game,
- 1:18:28Speaker 8: they can go to super Bowl.
- 1:18:29Speaker 2: Yeah, the week off will be week off will be
- 1:18:33Speaker 2: interesting with them. It's proven twenty nineteen Titans versus Ravens.
- 1:18:37Speaker 1: And they are built different this year.
- 1:18:41Speaker 2: And Lamar he's got that different type of swag about them,
- 1:18:43Speaker 2: a different type of focus that whatever was happening in
- 1:18:46Speaker 2: nineteen on the roster like vets will be able to
- 1:18:49Speaker 2: speak to it. I'm not saying anything happen, but they
- 1:18:52Speaker 2: now have that experience of having the bye week, Lamar
- 1:18:55Speaker 2: having the year that he's had, probably he'll probably get
- 1:18:57Speaker 2: the MVP, and you can just tell he's got different
- 1:19:00Speaker 2: focus about them, so you know it'll probably be It's
- 1:19:04Speaker 2: like the likelihood of the one seed versus one seed
- 1:19:06Speaker 2: Baltimore or San Fran. I love Buffalo, like I like
- 1:19:09Speaker 2: your pick with San Fran Buffalo, but the chaos one
- 1:19:11Speaker 2: would be Buffalo.
- 1:19:13Speaker 8: In the Rams.
- 1:19:14Speaker 2: I could see the Rams getting getting sneaky, getting frisky
- 1:19:18Speaker 2: throughout the playoffs.
- 1:19:19Speaker 1: Yeah, just kind of being the road dog.
- 1:19:22Speaker 8: Yeah, I agree, because if they.
- 1:19:24Speaker 2: Win they'll go to San Fran. They had they they're
- 1:19:28Speaker 2: familiar with San Fran. And if they happen to pull
- 1:19:31Speaker 2: that one off, they're playing who Tampa Bay or Dallas.
- 1:19:37Speaker 8: Yeah, literally just got to get through Sam Fran because
- 1:19:39Speaker 8: I feel like the three teams to me in the
- 1:19:43Speaker 8: NFC are San Fran, Detroit and the Rams. Those are
- 1:19:47Speaker 8: the three teams that lodgream I had. Those guys can
- 1:19:49Speaker 8: have a shot at going to the super Bowl.
- 1:19:51Speaker 1: I agree, Detroit and the Rams are gonna be like
- 1:19:53Speaker 1: the best game to watch this weekend.
- 1:19:54Speaker 6: Yeah, the.
- 1:19:59Speaker 8: Four Niners are just a big bad wolf, Like they're
- 1:20:02Speaker 8: just you.
- 1:20:03Speaker 1: Know, they're ready to go, and I hope they win
- 1:20:05Speaker 1: the whole thing.
- 1:20:06Speaker 8: And you see the clips of Kittle when you see
- 1:20:09Speaker 8: Kittle being like I will be back here, I will
- 1:20:11Speaker 8: be back here. And then like you see him during
- 1:20:13Speaker 8: the NFC Championship last year, like still trying to hype
- 1:20:16Speaker 8: up the boys when you know all hope is lost
- 1:20:18Speaker 8: and you see the clips of him with he's all
- 1:20:20Speaker 8: micd up being like, boys, we got it, Like all
- 1:20:22Speaker 8: we need is one play, like truly fighting for a
- 1:20:26Speaker 8: lost cause. When you have no quarterbacks left, you can
- 1:20:29Speaker 8: only run the ball, they're stacking the box like that
- 1:20:32Speaker 8: kind of passion to me is like I want it
- 1:20:34Speaker 8: so bad for San Francisco. Christoph McCaffrey has been a
- 1:20:38Speaker 8: guy dog.
- 1:20:40Speaker 2: Like you're right, and they were there last year. They
- 1:20:42Speaker 2: had the squad they were gonna last year.
- 1:20:44Speaker 8: Quarterback, Like to me, Kittle winning a Super Bowl is
- 1:20:50Speaker 8: the motivating motivating factor for me when I make these picks,
- 1:20:53Speaker 8: like he deserves it, McCaffrey deserves it. I mean, all
- 1:20:56Speaker 8: those guys in the team deserve it. Trem Williams, I
- 1:20:58Speaker 8: don't know him, but I have so much respect. I'm
- 1:20:59Speaker 8: a fan of Trent Williams so much. But it's what's
- 1:21:02Speaker 8: that he don't deserve it. I just think like of
- 1:21:07Speaker 8: all the teams in this bracket, the team that deserves
- 1:21:10Speaker 8: it the most, that should have already had one, is
- 1:21:13Speaker 8: built to win it as San Francisco. And I hope that.
- 1:21:15Speaker 2: And I also hope that Shanahan gets that monkey of
- 1:21:17Speaker 2: his back of just getting as far as.
- 1:21:18Speaker 1: The championship game.
- 1:21:19Speaker 2: Yes, yes, bro, And if you do go happen to
- 1:21:22Speaker 2: go down quarterbacks this year, like let the boys stole
- 1:21:25Speaker 2: the rock back there?
- 1:21:26Speaker 8: Yeah, because if they if they do and it's like, hey,
- 1:21:28Speaker 8: we're in this position again, like fucking boys backyard ball,
- 1:21:31Speaker 8: longest yard Adam Sandler type ship. Yeah damn that was Yeah, Yeah,
- 1:21:37Speaker 8: Niners to win it all. I love that chaos, but
- 1:21:40Speaker 8: we also love chaos. I would take the Dinners out
- 1:21:45Speaker 8: of it. I would love to see the Lions win
- 1:21:47Speaker 8: it all. I would love to see the Lions.
- 1:21:51Speaker 2: To make a list of teams I'm like pulling for yeah,
- 1:21:54Speaker 2: pecking order, because it would be San fran two would
- 1:21:57Speaker 2: probably be Buffalo, Three would be.
- 1:22:01Speaker 1: Rams like a notes coop, or would be Lions. Off
- 1:22:08Speaker 1: to look at the rest, pull it back up.
- 1:22:09Speaker 8: Let me hit you.
- 1:22:10Speaker 9: It's really almost a team that, like every team you
- 1:22:13Speaker 9: there's a reason you kind of would want to see
- 1:22:15Speaker 9: him win.
- 1:22:15Speaker 6: Maybe except Dallas.
- 1:22:16Speaker 8: Yeah not Dallas. And like I like, I wouldn't. I
- 1:22:21Speaker 8: would love it for Kansas City for like Travis and
- 1:22:23Speaker 8: you know some of those guys, but like I wouldn't, Like,
- 1:22:25Speaker 8: I'm not gonna be heartbroken if they don't win it,
- 1:22:27Speaker 8: like they've kind of had theirs.
- 1:22:28Speaker 6: Every other team has a story.
- 1:22:31Speaker 8: Yeah, and the number one team for me is San Francisco.
- 1:22:34Speaker 8: The number two team is Buffalo. Then then the Lions,
- 1:22:42Speaker 8: then maybe Miami.
- 1:22:44Speaker 2: I would love to see Miami get hot. Yeah, but
- 1:22:47Speaker 2: them being injured and stuff really hurts them.
- 1:22:50Speaker 8: Yeah, they just don't have the firepower on the edges.
- 1:22:52Speaker 8: And they had it too, God, they had the firepower
- 1:22:54Speaker 8: on the edges because they're they're interiors. Good Christian Wilkins, Right,
- 1:22:58Speaker 8: he's a he's a study. Can I get a JP?
- 1:23:01Speaker 8: I get it, but still stud like it makes some
- 1:23:03Speaker 8: good moves in the inside of that pocket. So but yeah,
- 1:23:06Speaker 8: that's so we've got both of us on our true takes.
- 1:23:09Speaker 8: Taking San Francisco chaos take, you took who winning it.
- 1:23:14Speaker 1: On a buff on the Rams? It doesn't matter. It's
- 1:23:15Speaker 1: a toss up, like, just.
- 1:23:17Speaker 8: Pick one the Rams, all right, my chaos pick. I'll
- 1:23:22Speaker 8: take Buffalo in your scenario.
- 1:23:25Speaker 1: That it's hard to say chaos pick for the two seed.
- 1:23:28Speaker 8: Yeah, but and again they just got Yeah, it would
- 1:23:30Speaker 8: have been the seed.
- 1:23:32Speaker 1: You're right, you're right, you're right, you're right. Yeah that
- 1:23:35Speaker 1: if you want Josh to win.
- 1:23:36Speaker 8: One, there's one team on here that's like, yes, they'll
- 1:23:40Speaker 8: if you were to put all your money something, you
- 1:23:42Speaker 8: had to pull your money, there's one team you look at,
- 1:23:44Speaker 8: you're like, that's your Super Bowl winner. Everybody else is like,
- 1:23:48Speaker 8: you know, the next to the list is Baltimore obviously
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- 1:26:02Speaker 6: All right? What's the question of the week?
- 1:26:03Speaker 5: Would you rather be ugly but smell amazing or very
- 1:26:08Speaker 5: handsome and beautiful but you smell like shit?
- 1:26:11Speaker 1: Say that again.
- 1:26:12Speaker 5: Would you rather be ugly but smell amazing or handsome
- 1:26:17Speaker 5: slash beautiful but you stink?
- 1:26:19Speaker 8: How are we talking with? Call like sloth from the Goonies.
- 1:26:22Speaker 6: Like we're talking like ugly ugly like SpongeBob and Patrick.
- 1:26:26Speaker 8: You caught the ugly that is smelly though spongebl and
- 1:26:29Speaker 8: Patrick season one being at Sandy's house for the first
- 1:26:32Speaker 8: time being dried out?
- 1:26:32Speaker 1: Are you looking and stinky melly boy? Yeah, because that
- 1:26:36Speaker 1: could just be spiritual, be like.
- 1:26:38Speaker 8: I'm just a man of the earth McConaughey style and
- 1:26:40Speaker 8: Russell brand.
- 1:26:42Speaker 1: Yeah, I like that.
- 1:26:43Speaker 8: I was gonna go the opposite, but I like that
- 1:26:45Speaker 8: take I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go extremely good looking
- 1:26:48Speaker 8: and smelly.
- 1:26:49Speaker 1: Give me the b oh fuck it?
- 1:26:51Speaker 5: Hell?
- 1:26:51Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I mean. Yeah, you just ultimately
- 1:26:55Speaker 1: take showers and then hold off for probably twenty minutes.
- 1:27:00Speaker 7: Yeah.
- 1:27:00Speaker 9: I think it's the everlasting stench. Nothing you can do
- 1:27:03Speaker 9: about it. Yeah, and ugly for the sake of this question, Yeah,
- 1:27:06Speaker 9: I would probably have to. Yeah, just give me great looking.
- 1:27:08Speaker 5: It just kind of depends.
- 1:27:09Speaker 6: Like what you deem as ugly.
- 1:27:13Speaker 2: You literally said that is in the eye of the
- 1:27:17Speaker 2: we're talking ugly, like we're overweight.
- 1:27:20Speaker 6: That's the thing.
- 1:27:21Speaker 8: Like I just I don't know, like are we not
- 1:27:24Speaker 8: over hawking?
- 1:27:25Speaker 6: Let's say ugly, I mean you're not overweight?
- 1:27:30Speaker 7: This is this is.
- 1:27:35Speaker 8: I mean third row down.
- 1:27:36Speaker 1: Decide to being ugly, I mean.
- 1:27:39Speaker 8: From the animals, Like that's not I mean he ugly,
- 1:27:43Speaker 8: but he you can work with that. Oh no, no,
- 1:27:48Speaker 8: you can't work with that.
- 1:27:51Speaker 1: Yeah, it's tough. Where are you guys going?
- 1:27:54Speaker 9: I think I'm choosing the ugly but smell good because
- 1:27:57Speaker 9: there's a lot of cases out there where people beat
- 1:27:59Speaker 9: the odds and you are one of them, walked right
- 1:28:05Speaker 9: into it.
- 1:28:07Speaker 6: But exactly that's where I'm going my whole life. Man.
- 1:28:12Speaker 5: I think I might. I might ride with JP there too.
- 1:28:18Speaker 7: I think you hit it on that being the earthy
- 1:28:20Speaker 7: guy though.
- 1:28:21Speaker 11: You know you can swing that and be like I've
- 1:28:23Speaker 11: been out in the woods for months, like I don't
- 1:28:25Speaker 11: believe in aluminum and deodorant.
- 1:28:27Speaker 7: You know, Yeah, there's not that guy.
- 1:28:29Speaker 11: You know, I'm all natural, Like I've been dating you
- 1:28:32Speaker 11: for two years. You don't go outside, there's something and
- 1:28:36Speaker 11: women like a little musk too.
- 1:28:37Speaker 7: I know it smells like ship, but some you might
- 1:28:40Speaker 7: find a little honey who's into that?
- 1:28:42Speaker 6: Another earthy girl?
- 1:28:43Speaker 7: Yeah, another earth girl?
- 1:28:44Speaker 1: Yeah, so you don't even.
- 1:28:47Speaker 6: Notice, Coop.
- 1:28:51Speaker 8: I would rather smell good.
- 1:28:53Speaker 1: There's nothing worse than someone that smells bad.
- 1:28:57Speaker 6: Yeah, you also the video.
- 1:28:58Speaker 1: Come on, everyone asked what the frame?
- 1:29:00Speaker 12: No?
- 1:29:00Speaker 1: I agree. I mean that it sucks to smell bad.
- 1:29:03Speaker 8: Like people that don't wear deodorant and smell bad.
- 1:29:08Speaker 1: It's tough. It's tough to be around.
- 1:29:11Speaker 8: Yeah, you would be tough to be. Yeah, you don't
- 1:29:14Speaker 8: want to be It's like a yeah, it'd be hard.
- 1:29:18Speaker 1: Fuck it.
- 1:29:19Speaker 10: I'd rather smell good.
- 1:29:21Speaker 8: I'm thinking, Yeah, you guys gotta look at the mirror
- 1:29:27Speaker 8: a little bit. Huh.
- 1:29:29Speaker 2: What kind of ugly we talking, Cooper? I'll just tease you, Coop,
- 1:29:35Speaker 2: balls busting balls, busting chalk.
- 1:29:37Speaker 1: Got anything else?
- 1:29:38Speaker 7: I think that's it. It's all the ads, it's all
- 1:29:40Speaker 7: the talk.
- 1:29:41Speaker 1: Great episode. Boys.
- 1:29:42Speaker 8: Well there is one more thing. Yeah, possibly Kirk Kurbstreet
- 1:29:45Speaker 8: joining on zoom. Possibly I haven't heard.
- 1:29:48Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, what's the what's the skinny on?
- 1:29:49Speaker 8: Old Kirk? I put Steven in touch with Kirk and
- 1:29:51Speaker 8: then re reached out. Kirk said, I'm down blah blah blah,
- 1:29:54Speaker 8: and then I assume Steven's gonna take over that, so
- 1:29:57Speaker 8: hopefully he's respond to Steve Kirk. Kirkstreet is not on
- 1:30:00Speaker 8: this zoom. Stephen Bond is the reason why it didn't
- 1:30:03Speaker 8: work out.
- 1:30:04Speaker 2: Or all right or didn't respond to him. Hey, and
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- 1:30:41Speaker 8: with this episode. We're getting ready to release it at
- 1:30:43Speaker 8: eight pm tonight, and your boy was on rich Eisend
- 1:30:47Speaker 8: for ten minutes and during the process I look back
- 1:30:50Speaker 8: and will trying to get my attention. He's like something
- 1:30:52Speaker 8: about fired. I couldn't tell what was going on. And
- 1:30:54Speaker 8: as he's saying that, Rich Eisen mentions, I don't know
- 1:30:58Speaker 8: if you're hearing what the producers are saying in my ear,
- 1:30:59Speaker 8: but Mike Rabel has been relieved of his duties at
- 1:31:01Speaker 8: the Tennessee Titans. Now, listen, you saw the initial reaction
- 1:31:05Speaker 8: on Rich as if you follow that show. We wanted
- 1:31:07Speaker 8: to pop back in in here to give our reaction
- 1:31:10Speaker 8: to the whole thing, because not only has Rabel been
- 1:31:12Speaker 8: massive to the Tennessee Titans, He's one of the boys.
- 1:31:15Speaker 1: He's been on the show.
- 1:31:16Speaker 8: He literally, as much as you hate to a minute,
- 1:31:18Speaker 8: as one of the guys that truly put this show
- 1:31:20Speaker 8: on the map with the cutting his piece off and
- 1:31:22Speaker 8: all that, and so.
- 1:31:24Speaker 1: God, that's true. Why'd you have to bring that up?
- 1:31:26Speaker 8: You know, it's just an opportunity for us to tip
- 1:31:30Speaker 8: the cap the old man rapes, because we can go
- 1:31:33Speaker 8: about how we feel about the decision. If I've been talking.
- 1:31:35Speaker 1: But if you want to go first, what was the
- 1:31:37Speaker 1: reaction on the Isisen? I do remember I was going
- 1:31:39Speaker 1: over there.
- 1:31:40Speaker 8: Yeah, the reaction was just taken back because through the year,
- 1:31:45Speaker 8: I think they are like midway through the season, you
- 1:31:47Speaker 8: and I would kind of conversations and I would bring
- 1:31:49Speaker 8: up like, you think rapes Lean he's out of here,
- 1:31:51Speaker 8: and you would be like, there's no way, and and
- 1:31:53Speaker 8: then I was eventually disagree with you because I got
- 1:31:56Speaker 8: the same thing right, and you finished the season. You
- 1:31:58Speaker 8: finished in a high note with Derek playing the way
- 1:32:00Speaker 8: he did his possible last game, Tannehill getting winning his
- 1:32:03Speaker 8: last game being the Jaguars taking them out of this
- 1:32:05Speaker 8: AFC South. Do you think all the question marks of
- 1:32:07Speaker 8: if Mike Rabel is the guy or not the guy?
- 1:32:09Speaker 8: This is that's answered all the questions.
- 1:32:13Speaker 2: And so it never felt like because we would have
- 1:32:15Speaker 2: those conversations and even a couple of days ago or
- 1:32:18Speaker 2: after the Titans ended up going what six and eleven
- 1:32:22Speaker 2: eleven on the year, Charles like you think rave safe
- 1:32:24Speaker 2: and I was like I was kind of doing the
- 1:32:27Speaker 2: same thing, and I was like, yeah, I mean, I
- 1:32:28Speaker 2: feel like that's as brainer right, just because like you
- 1:32:32Speaker 2: look at everything he's put together his tenure with the Titans,
- 1:32:37Speaker 2: he's crushed it. He's got like a Coach of the Year,
- 1:32:39Speaker 2: not he's you guys went to AFC Championship. We were
- 1:32:42Speaker 2: eleven and five twelve and five. I think the one
- 1:32:45Speaker 2: seed in the last couple of years have been up
- 1:32:48Speaker 2: and down. In this past year is kind of like
- 1:32:50Speaker 2: definitely felt like more of a rebuild because they let
- 1:32:53Speaker 2: go Jay rob in the middle of the year last
- 1:32:54Speaker 2: year warranted justified whatever it's it felt then like, if
- 1:33:00Speaker 2: you're gonna get rid of that regime, then at the
- 1:33:03Speaker 2: end of the last season would have been the season
- 1:33:04Speaker 2: to do it, to retain him, and then you kind
- 1:33:07Speaker 2: of go about it this year. And again he's got
- 1:33:09Speaker 2: a proven track record of like being like he's a
- 1:33:11Speaker 2: championship style coach. I mean, at times, of course it's
- 1:33:15Speaker 2: stuff to play for him, but he like he understands
- 1:33:17Speaker 2: what it takes to get it done. Like you know,
- 1:33:20Speaker 2: I know I've been on different teams and Vrabe always
- 1:33:24Speaker 2: had the way he had everything structured. I know, some
- 1:33:27Speaker 2: with the Patriots, some he kind of did his own thing,
- 1:33:29Speaker 2: but he always clearly defined like how you're going to
- 1:33:32Speaker 2: get win, what was going to happen, what the standard was,
- 1:33:34Speaker 2: what the culture was going to be. He was never
- 1:33:36Speaker 2: scared of any conversation. He never beat around the bush
- 1:33:39Speaker 2: with anybody. You always knew where you stood. He's just
- 1:33:41Speaker 2: one of those guys where like, you understand why he's
- 1:33:44Speaker 2: been able to fast track to a head coach.
- 1:33:46Speaker 1: So just always felt like, you know, there was no
- 1:33:49Speaker 1: chance at him of this happening.
- 1:33:52Speaker 8: Yeah, And you brought up a good point too, of
- 1:33:53Speaker 8: Rabel telling the team essentially like manifesting how you're going
- 1:33:56Speaker 8: to win the game.
- 1:33:57Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's one thing to do that.
- 1:33:58Speaker 8: It's in a whole nother position to call the shot internally.
- 1:34:02Speaker 8: And when you watch how the game plays out, it
- 1:34:04Speaker 8: plays out exactly how Rabel would say, Hey, they're to
- 1:34:07Speaker 8: do this at some point in the game, this is
- 1:34:08Speaker 8: gonna happen, and then we're gonna win because of X,
- 1:34:10Speaker 8: Y and Z, right, And it was kind of like, Yo,
- 1:34:11Speaker 8: how is he just known? It's a guy just understanding
- 1:34:14Speaker 8: the game, understanding you know, how to connect the players,
- 1:34:18Speaker 8: how to critically speak with players, and like we know,
- 1:34:21Speaker 8: we all talk about twenty eighteen, we all hated Rapes,
- 1:34:24Speaker 8: we thought he was the worst. He was. He just
- 1:34:26Speaker 8: came in boiling a china shop attitude and you're just like, Yo,
- 1:34:28Speaker 8: what the fuck is going on? Man?
- 1:34:30Speaker 2: And then through the years he had liked the glimmers
- 1:34:32Speaker 2: of like, Yo, this dude's awesome, Like why he done yes, because.
- 1:34:35Speaker 8: He would have those moments where you're like, yo, maybe
- 1:34:37Speaker 8: he's not a piece of shit.
- 1:34:38Speaker 1: Yeah you know, I say that.
- 1:34:39Speaker 8: Jokingly, but like, maybe he's not that guy that like
- 1:34:42Speaker 8: we're all everyone's kind of making him out to be
- 1:34:44Speaker 8: and slowly but surely, like nineteen twenty twenty one, like like, oh,
- 1:34:48Speaker 8: this dude's a this dude's a cat. You kind of
- 1:34:50Speaker 8: want to be run, you kind of want to play
- 1:34:51Speaker 8: for He's like a he's turning into a player's coach
- 1:34:54Speaker 8: that you're like, yo, we know rape is gonna get us, right.
- 1:34:56Speaker 8: So I said it on a Stagram. I don't know
- 1:34:59Speaker 8: about what you in your video, but I think this
- 1:35:02Speaker 8: is a mistake. I think I think the Titans made
- 1:35:04Speaker 8: a big, big mistake. And I don't know if it's
- 1:35:07Speaker 8: because we're getting older so you understand a little bit
- 1:35:10Speaker 8: more about what happens in the NFL. But this is
- 1:35:12Speaker 8: the first time I've seen a fire where I feel like, okay,
- 1:35:15Speaker 8: there there, I feel like there's some Game of Thrones
- 1:35:17Speaker 8: colluding in the background that took place here.
- 1:35:19Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely a power move. I mean somebody like our struggle.
- 1:35:23Speaker 2: Yeah, at the top it's kind of Yeah, it's like
- 1:35:26Speaker 2: there's this weird cloud of how everything's going in the facility,
- 1:35:30Speaker 2: like we you know, we can't tip off of we had,
- 1:35:32Speaker 2: even though we've been tipping off what we're gonna have
- 1:35:34Speaker 2: on next week. But it's the difference in the building
- 1:35:37Speaker 2: or the difference of just the vibe of the team
- 1:35:40Speaker 2: from years past to like specifically like this year.
- 1:35:45Speaker 7: I don't know.
- 1:35:45Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, Ran came in, and I guess Rand
- 1:35:48Speaker 2: was probably Amy's higher. I think is that that's like
- 1:35:51Speaker 2: that's like public information, Yeah, Rand was Amy's higher. But
- 1:35:56Speaker 2: you'd think the vacancy of the GM job of like
- 1:35:58Speaker 2: when Jay Rob got fired, you would assume Rabe goes
- 1:36:01Speaker 2: back to the table, tries gets whatever, could probably control
- 1:36:05Speaker 2: the roster decisions because you kind of know where it's
- 1:36:07Speaker 2: all at, like where all the collapses kind of happened,
- 1:36:10Speaker 2: like with the regime of j Rob.
- 1:36:12Speaker 1: And then Rain comes in and I don't necessarily know
- 1:36:15Speaker 1: how the dynamic was.
- 1:36:16Speaker 2: It felt like the dynamic wasn't always like collaborative or
- 1:36:19Speaker 2: just didn't feel like much of anything.
- 1:36:21Speaker 6: And then.
- 1:36:24Speaker 2: Just reading Twitter, it seemed like Vrabel wanted, you know,
- 1:36:28Speaker 2: assistant GMS or guys that were like on the staff
- 1:36:31Speaker 2: to have more clarity and what their roles and responsibilities
- 1:36:34Speaker 2: were in giving up what that control looked like of
- 1:36:37Speaker 2: the roster. Maybe he didn't feel like Rain was competent
- 1:36:39Speaker 2: enough to do it, or like, hey, let's hire somebody
- 1:36:42Speaker 2: to help facilitate these these decisions, these collaborative decisions on
- 1:36:45Speaker 2: the roster.
- 1:36:47Speaker 1: Maybe Amy wanted like Ran to do it.
- 1:36:49Speaker 2: Maybe there was like the power struggle of going back
- 1:36:51Speaker 2: and forth of disagreement, and then maybe the options started
- 1:36:54Speaker 2: to float up of like trading or firing or other
- 1:36:56Speaker 2: options if Vrabe or whoever wasn't gonna play ball that way,
- 1:37:00Speaker 2: and then ultimately probably led to this if Amy's like, hey,
- 1:37:02Speaker 2: I've just one new fresh, a new fresh perspective, because
- 1:37:07Speaker 2: you know, I mean you can assume how some of
- 1:37:09Speaker 2: those conversations probably go if you're not aligned or in
- 1:37:12Speaker 2: line with it. Yeah, this is as great as Rabe
- 1:37:14Speaker 2: is too. Like there were a couple of years where
- 1:37:17Speaker 2: when it could have fallen apart and it didn't. And
- 1:37:19Speaker 2: it's hats off to him for like cultivating the way
- 1:37:21Speaker 2: he's always been able to cultivate the dynamic in the building.
- 1:37:26Speaker 1: But you know, there were always those those question marks too, of.
- 1:37:29Speaker 2: Like hiring more in house, like not having a lack
- 1:37:32Speaker 2: of going beyond what was in the building to bring
- 1:37:35Speaker 2: in coordinators or assistants. Like who knows how many of
- 1:37:38Speaker 2: those conversations were being had about like hey, let's change
- 1:37:41Speaker 2: the decision up here and there, and how much either
- 1:37:43Speaker 2: Rabe was giving or trying to be like, no, let's
- 1:37:45Speaker 2: do this, and they probably just butt heads and Gray
- 1:37:47Speaker 2: was like, no, we're not doing a trade or anything
- 1:37:49Speaker 2: like that, Like you.
- 1:37:50Speaker 1: Don't have to fire me. Yeah, yeah, I just don't.
- 1:37:53Speaker 8: The thing that has kind of been brought up multiple
- 1:37:55Speaker 8: times is the idea that Rabel this is all speculation,
- 1:37:59Speaker 8: it's all like but like Rabel thought ran was incompetent
- 1:38:03Speaker 8: at being able to control the entire roster. To me,
- 1:38:06Speaker 8: I think that's a crazy that's it's wild to think
- 1:38:09Speaker 8: that only like truly the people inside the building would know,
- 1:38:11Speaker 8: because you know, there's a lot of transitions or like
- 1:38:15Speaker 8: guys leaving, guys getting on ir guys being brought in
- 1:38:17Speaker 8: and brought.
- 1:38:18Speaker 1: Out in a weekly basis in the NFL.
- 1:38:19Speaker 8: But how do you understand if a guy knows who
- 1:38:22Speaker 8: to bring in and evaluate talent until after a full offseason.
- 1:38:25Speaker 1: I just don't.
- 1:38:25Speaker 8: I don't get it. And what I've been told in
- 1:38:28Speaker 8: the Titans camp is the difference between John Robinson and
- 1:38:32Speaker 8: Rand are like polar opposites, complete one eighties Ran and
- 1:38:37Speaker 8: either one's better better than the other. But however, Ran
- 1:38:40Speaker 8: has at least how it's been explained to me, as
- 1:38:42Speaker 8: much more relaxed, much more free flowing, not so much
- 1:38:46Speaker 8: of a player's guy, not much as so much of
- 1:38:48Speaker 8: like I'm the boss and everything. And then Jay robb
- 1:38:51Speaker 8: as I knew when I was there, it was like
- 1:38:52Speaker 8: one of those things where literally he was evaluating the landscapers,
- 1:38:56Speaker 8: how they were cutting the grass. He had, he had,
- 1:38:57Speaker 8: you know, what kind of food was being brought in,
- 1:38:59Speaker 8: and he literally every minute detail.
- 1:39:01Speaker 1: He had his hand in everything.
- 1:39:02Speaker 8: So I don't know if that makes Rave seeing it
- 1:39:04Speaker 8: completely different side think oh maybe this guy's a little
- 1:39:06Speaker 8: two lackluster. I really don't know, but I do know
- 1:39:10Speaker 8: that the Tennessee Titans fan base, it was a big
- 1:39:15Speaker 8: thank you to Mike Rabel that dude. You know, we
- 1:39:18Speaker 8: talked about eighteen that was tough, but the years we
- 1:39:21Speaker 8: all got to have, whether playing or watching, of being
- 1:39:25Speaker 8: a part of something that was truly special in Nashville, Tennessee.
- 1:39:28Speaker 8: Is something that we need to look at Mike Rabel
- 1:39:30Speaker 8: and say thank you for because that's a dude that
- 1:39:32Speaker 8: without him, that culture, the the work through adversity with
- 1:39:39Speaker 8: all the injuries, like in twenty twenty one where we
- 1:39:41Speaker 8: literally set a record, a league record of guys being
- 1:39:43Speaker 8: brought it in and out of guys playing in NFL
- 1:39:46Speaker 8: games and still getting the one seed. Those type of
- 1:39:48Speaker 8: things don't happen without culture and then implementing a simple
- 1:39:52Speaker 8: enough game plan for guys that are new enough and
- 1:39:53Speaker 8: that goes and falls in the back of Mike Vrabel.
- 1:39:55Speaker 8: I have no doubt, Like I I feel bad that
- 1:39:58Speaker 8: Mike is not the type in head coach anymore, but
- 1:40:01Speaker 8: also a piece of me. He's like, fuck yeah, Mike,
- 1:40:03Speaker 8: because he's gonna double dip. He gets fired, his contract
- 1:40:06Speaker 8: is in. Now he's gonna go to one of these
- 1:40:07Speaker 8: vacant head coaching jobs and he's going to be a
- 1:40:10Speaker 8: cat that is highly sought after, get paid even more
- 1:40:12Speaker 8: than he was before. And from a financial standpoint, this
- 1:40:15Speaker 8: is gonna be a massive benefit for Mike. The bad news,
- 1:40:17Speaker 8: I mean, both of his kids are out of like
- 1:40:18Speaker 8: ones in college when ones older. But he's got to
- 1:40:21Speaker 8: uproot the family, he's got to move, he's got to
- 1:40:23Speaker 8: do all that and essentially start over the process of
- 1:40:25Speaker 8: implementing the culture he did to the Titans. Where I'm
- 1:40:28Speaker 8: worried is is where are the Titans headed? And it's
- 1:40:31Speaker 8: so easy to speculate and be kind of nervous about
- 1:40:34Speaker 8: that because there's not a head coach, we haven't gone
- 1:40:36Speaker 8: through a draft we have, there's so many holes in
- 1:40:38Speaker 8: the team that there's a lot of fear when I
- 1:40:41Speaker 8: especially with a guy like Jack, where it's like there's
- 1:40:43Speaker 8: a lot of fear. It's like now they're going back
- 1:40:45Speaker 8: ten years. Now they're going back, So it's like twenty fourteen,
- 1:40:48Speaker 8: twenty fifteen, you have an abysmal roster and no leadership.
- 1:40:52Speaker 8: That's kind of the fear, it seems like throughout the
- 1:40:55Speaker 8: fan basis of Nashville. And we don't have an answer
- 1:40:57Speaker 8: for that, We really don't. But what I do know
- 1:40:59Speaker 8: is is that Mike is one of the best head
- 1:41:01Speaker 8: coaches in the NFL.
- 1:41:02Speaker 1: Oh for sure.
- 1:41:03Speaker 2: I think what's surprising it too, is like if you
- 1:41:07Speaker 2: know you have one of the better coaches in the NFL.
- 1:41:11Speaker 2: Why are you not doing absolutely everything possible to make
- 1:41:14Speaker 2: sure that that next GM higher is a like collaborative
- 1:41:18Speaker 2: piece with kind of the vision or working with coach Rabel.
- 1:41:25Speaker 2: If you're like betting on Rabel in the long run,
- 1:41:27Speaker 2: you know what I mean? And if you're not, then
- 1:41:29Speaker 2: I don't understand, like why the decision or Yeah, I
- 1:41:31Speaker 2: don't know, man, I think you're right about a Game
- 1:41:34Speaker 2: of Thrones. It's like there's definitely the political level because
- 1:41:37Speaker 2: this is I don't think it has nothing to do
- 1:41:39Speaker 2: with this coaching, but no, this has got collusion. This
- 1:41:41Speaker 2: is all about like that power struggle at the top,
- 1:41:44Speaker 2: like who's going to be the shot caller and what
- 1:41:46Speaker 2: kind of disagreement like not being aligned in some of
- 1:41:49Speaker 2: the front office aspects. I think that that's pretty much
- 1:41:52Speaker 2: all came down to, and then Amy ultimately has to
- 1:41:55Speaker 2: say in it.
- 1:41:56Speaker 8: Yeah, and I don't think. I mean obviously the way
- 1:41:58Speaker 8: we're speaking about it is like to God got in
- 1:42:01Speaker 8: some sort of way. I'm not saying maybe Rabe wasn't
- 1:42:04Speaker 8: gonna get the amount of power he wanted. He goes,
- 1:42:05Speaker 8: all right, I'm gonna dip then, Brew because so you
- 1:42:08Speaker 8: you truly never know, you truly never know the truth
- 1:42:10Speaker 8: of people that were in that building. All know pieces
- 1:42:12Speaker 8: of the truth, but don't know the full entire story
- 1:42:14Speaker 8: unless there's an actual sit down conversation between all of them.
- 1:42:17Speaker 2: So sucks man, and you talk about uh yeah, the Titans.
- 1:42:22Speaker 2: This chapter, I think it's crazy.
- 1:42:24Speaker 1: It's like.
- 1:42:26Speaker 2: It was what rabel from eighteen to twenty three, twenty three,
- 1:42:30Speaker 2: twenty four season.
- 1:42:32Speaker 1: Now that book is.
- 1:42:33Speaker 2: Truly close, truly closed. Derek's gone in that book. I
- 1:42:37Speaker 2: got a little piece in that book. You gotta you
- 1:42:39Speaker 2: were like you like you, Derrick, Henry Tannehill, I mean
- 1:42:45Speaker 2: a lot of guys man a Rack toll West, even
- 1:42:49Speaker 2: Kevin Bayered, Kenny Vaccaro Delaney in the beginning, like that book,
- 1:42:56Speaker 2: that generation of Titans is officially close.
- 1:43:00Speaker 1: Any I mean he helped, I mean Busting with the
- 1:43:02Speaker 1: Boys was under it was under his watch.
- 1:43:05Speaker 8: Yeah, Bust with the Boys. You can't talk about that
- 1:43:07Speaker 8: timeline of the Tennisit Tents franchise without mentioning Busting with
- 1:43:10Speaker 8: the Boys.
- 1:43:10Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Busting with the Boys is in there is
- 1:43:13Speaker 1: in that little book.
- 1:43:14Speaker 8: Yeah. God, it's just crazy, man.
- 1:43:16Speaker 1: Jack, let's tap in.
- 1:43:17Speaker 2: How we feeling, brother, I know you saw the tweet
- 1:43:20Speaker 2: and you started get to get up, you started losing
- 1:43:23Speaker 2: your mind.
- 1:43:23Speaker 8: You still really upstairs on her? Are you fucking kidding me?
- 1:43:26Speaker 1: Oh yeah yeah.
- 1:43:28Speaker 7: I mean emotions are certain to level back out and.
- 1:43:31Speaker 1: React right now. You can over you have a space
- 1:43:33Speaker 1: and moment to overreact.
- 1:43:34Speaker 11: I mean, I see the majority of people on Twitter
- 1:43:38Speaker 11: right now on the Internet are in agreement, so that
- 1:43:40Speaker 11: this is a stupid firing. My brother in law, Chase Heisman,
- 1:43:44Speaker 11: he goes, this is the first firing I've seen in
- 1:43:46Speaker 11: Titan's history where I don't agree with it at all,
- 1:43:48Speaker 11: Like I don't even see the direction.
- 1:43:50Speaker 7: Who's headed not. I think that sums it up in
- 1:43:52Speaker 7: the in the perfect way.
- 1:43:54Speaker 11: I do understand the opposite side of the coin, where
- 1:43:57Speaker 11: it's out of the last twenty four games, he's only one,
- 1:44:00Speaker 11: and so I get that.
- 1:44:01Speaker 7: But that's not Mike Vrabel though.
- 1:44:03Speaker 11: Like we've had since Taylor, since you've been gone and
- 1:44:07Speaker 11: an accountless amount of others, the old line's been depleted,
- 1:44:10Speaker 11: We've been running through different quarterbacks, We've lost our whole
- 1:44:14Speaker 11: identity as a receiver corps.
- 1:44:15Speaker 7: Derek's been in and out.
- 1:44:18Speaker 11: It's just it's tough when you try and put a
- 1:44:21Speaker 11: blame on one person when he's the same guy who
- 1:44:24Speaker 11: set the NFL record for starting the most active players
- 1:44:28Speaker 11: of all time in a single season when we had
- 1:44:31Speaker 11: the one seed that was at ninety six. Guys, we're
- 1:44:33Speaker 11: on a one current active roster, Like, there's hardly any
- 1:44:38Speaker 11: coach maybe in existence we'll ever coach again that can
- 1:44:41Speaker 11: put that on a resume. So I do understand the
- 1:44:44Speaker 11: last two years have not been going according to plan,
- 1:44:47Speaker 11: but it's like, how are we just gonna jump ship
- 1:44:49Speaker 11: like this when there's no hope in sight that we're
- 1:44:54Speaker 11: gonna find even a coach with half the capability that
- 1:44:58Speaker 11: he has, it's gonna get us back. So so yeah,
- 1:45:01Speaker 11: an overreaction for me tweeting out we have gone back
- 1:45:05Speaker 11: ten years. No, I don't necessarily mean that, but it
- 1:45:07Speaker 11: does feel that way because we've gone through so many
- 1:45:10Speaker 11: bad coaches between Fisher and vrabel now and to have
- 1:45:15Speaker 11: someone's concrete as him, it's like, how are we gonna
- 1:45:19Speaker 11: go through another spell of five to ten years where
- 1:45:21Speaker 11: we're just trying to figure it out and then we
- 1:45:23Speaker 11: go through another GM hiring if Ran doesn't work out,
- 1:45:26Speaker 11: And I mean, I'm already thinking about the draft, like
- 1:45:29Speaker 11: this draft now is gonna be so important to the Titans,
- 1:45:33Speaker 11: like behind the scenes, the players, the fans, because if
- 1:45:36Speaker 11: they fuck this shit up, man, they're gonna it's gonna
- 1:45:39Speaker 11: be a mob mentality. It's just gonna be who we
- 1:45:41Speaker 11: blame it next. And then that's when I think things
- 1:45:43Speaker 11: start spiraling.
- 1:45:45Speaker 8: I hate it.
- 1:45:46Speaker 11: It's like the same thing we were telling Derek earlier.
- 1:45:48Speaker 11: It's like I wish I could just shake fucking Rabel's hands. Sorry,
- 1:45:52Speaker 11: I guess we're gonna cut that.
- 1:45:53Speaker 1: Out, cut that out.
- 1:45:54Speaker 7: I forget we're not on that pod, But I do
- 1:45:58Speaker 7: wish I could shake my grave.
- 1:46:00Speaker 11: His hand because he's been such an influential member of
- 1:46:02Speaker 11: the Titans community and just like a coach, where as
- 1:46:07Speaker 11: a fan that's had zero skin in the game as
- 1:46:10Speaker 11: an actual player in the NFL, which I am shocked
- 1:46:12Speaker 11: he still didn't pick me up because I could have
- 1:46:14Speaker 11: helped out.
- 1:46:14Speaker 7: In some ways.
- 1:46:15Speaker 11: But but he seriously, is is the same like a
- 1:46:20Speaker 11: credential member like Derek is, or like you have Ben Taylor,
- 1:46:22Speaker 11: where like he made people want to be fans of
- 1:46:26Speaker 11: the Tennessee Titans, even outside of like the core Titans
- 1:46:28Speaker 11: fans like you wanted to root for Mike Rabel because
- 1:46:31Speaker 11: he was a players coach first and foremost.
- 1:46:34Speaker 8: His team embodies their head coach, right and like you,
- 1:46:37Speaker 8: it's like.
- 1:46:37Speaker 11: The one clip I can just think of is him
- 1:46:39Speaker 11: on the sidelines, just fucking bullyball with y'all in warm up,
- 1:46:42Speaker 11: just like getting after it, and like it's just like
- 1:46:45Speaker 11: a coach he's ready to go to war for. And
- 1:46:47Speaker 11: so the fact that that Amy, whether it's Amy or
- 1:46:51Speaker 11: Ran or whoever, is just fucking ridiculous to me that
- 1:46:54Speaker 11: we got rid of, to me, the most crucial piece
- 1:46:56Speaker 11: of his entire franchise.
- 1:46:58Speaker 7: So I don't know who to blame to this point.
- 1:47:00Speaker 7: Right now. We're still in a morning phase, and.
- 1:47:04Speaker 11: We'll host a funeral for Mike at some point around
- 1:47:07Speaker 11: the shop once once I stop, you know, being down
- 1:47:10Speaker 11: about it. But for right now, I'm just nervous. I
- 1:47:12Speaker 11: don't know who they're gonna bring in. I've heard whispers
- 1:47:15Speaker 11: maybe the OC for Houston. They're looking maybe to find
- 1:47:19Speaker 11: an offensive minded court or coach to fill the spot.
- 1:47:23Speaker 7: I don't know what the next move is.
- 1:47:25Speaker 11: I just never thought that we were gonna get to
- 1:47:27Speaker 11: this point, and the whole idea of us not taking
- 1:47:31Speaker 11: at least the next few weeks to consider trading Rabel
- 1:47:35Speaker 11: to get some kind of capital behind it, and now
- 1:47:38Speaker 11: we're sitting here they're like, yeah, it was too complicated.
- 1:47:41Speaker 11: It's like, hey, this is a four billion dollar fucking
- 1:47:43Speaker 11: industry that we're behind, and you think it we can't
- 1:47:46Speaker 11: take a few fucking weeks to figure this out. It
- 1:47:49Speaker 11: maybe make it at least work out for us. And
- 1:47:51Speaker 11: in the slightest way, it just seems stupid. But I mean,
- 1:47:54Speaker 11: there's so many politics. I agree with what you said
- 1:47:57Speaker 11: more than anything that it does feel Game of three
- 1:48:00Speaker 11: Owns esque. There's something that we don't know yet that
- 1:48:02Speaker 11: will come out in the next few months, I think,
- 1:48:05Speaker 11: whether it's with Amy and Ran. But yeah, it's a
- 1:48:08Speaker 11: sad day, sad day in Nashville. And we love Rabel,
- 1:48:12Speaker 11: we love all the guys that have been here to
- 1:48:14Speaker 11: build up the city. But you know, at the end
- 1:48:16Speaker 11: of the day, it's it's always tighten up. It's always
- 1:48:20Speaker 11: tighten up, no matter who's on the reins, it's tighten
- 1:48:22Speaker 11: the fuck up because it's not about the coaches or
- 1:48:25Speaker 11: the fucking gms. It's about the heart of the city
- 1:48:28Speaker 11: and the people that ride when it's two and thirteen
- 1:48:30Speaker 11: or two and fourteen or three and thirteen, or when
- 1:48:33Speaker 11: we're number one in the fucking AFC. So yeah, I
- 1:48:37Speaker 11: don't know.
- 1:48:37Speaker 1: I don't know. Man, Let's have a moment of silence.
- 1:48:40Speaker 7: I would love that.
- 1:48:47Speaker 1: Thank you, Mike Rabel, Thank you Mike, Thanks Mike.
- 1:48:51Speaker 8: All right, guys, enjoy the day.
- 1:48:54Speaker 11: Day.
- 1:48:56Speaker 1: Yeah, bad day, bad day, black Tuesday day, but good
- 1:49:00Speaker 1: day night when.
- 1:49:01Speaker 7: Tuesday we got through yesterday.
- 1:49:06Speaker 1: Look scity kisses.
- 1:49:11Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:49:13Speaker 8: The four billion dollar fucking business