Latest / The Calcio Guys / Milan continue drawing in Serie A - Ep. 284 Ft. Martino Puccio
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- 0:07Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen.
- 0:09Speaker 2: Welcome to another episode of the Calcho Guys, except it's
- 0:12Speaker 2: not Nick doing the intro because he's not here tonight.
- 0:14Speaker 2: But you have myself Janny, along with Aid Adriano over
- 0:18Speaker 2: here ready to talk some Caucho and longtime friend and
- 0:22Speaker 2: very special guests Martino, Pucco, Martino, how's it going.
- 0:26Speaker 3: Buddy, Johnny, Andreano and Nick wherever you are. Hello, Thanks
- 0:30Speaker 3: harving me back on. Appreciate being on with you guys.
- 0:33Speaker 3: Always lovely to have a chat and discuss about our clubs.
- 0:37Speaker 3: And I say plural, right Johnny.
- 0:40Speaker 1: Yep, yep, because I am a weird motherfucker.
- 0:42Speaker 3: That's what.
- 0:45Speaker 1: So uh think about it.
- 0:48Speaker 2: Let's talk. Actually, let's not even think about it. Let's
- 0:50Speaker 2: get into things. Basically, Match day nine happened today. A
- 0:55Speaker 2: lot of a lot of games going on. Uh well,
- 0:58Speaker 2: some games today, some games the past couple of days.
- 1:01Speaker 2: Melan's recent game against Atalanta one to one and then
- 1:04Speaker 2: Pisa to too. But they were competing recently, you know,
- 1:09Speaker 2: like they're they're still in the discussion for those Cadeta
- 1:11Speaker 2: race have been. Would have been your opinion so far
- 1:14Speaker 2: Melan this season? Like expectations performances, individual performances by players,
- 1:20Speaker 2: so on and so forth. Allegrity, there's a lot to
- 1:22Speaker 2: talk about. Flores yours, Martino, go ahead.
- 1:26Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I guess expectations heading into this season
- 1:29Speaker 3: are always kind of strange with the transfer window because
- 1:32Speaker 3: we see a couple of matches prior to the transfer
- 1:36Speaker 3: window being finished. I mean, we had our sporting director
- 1:39Speaker 3: today before the Lecha match talking about how Santi Menez
- 1:42Speaker 3: could be gone and he was the lone striker on
- 1:45Speaker 3: the squad, so like you really kind of have no
- 1:48Speaker 3: idea when it comes to that sort of stuff. In
- 1:50Speaker 3: the way Melan, a lot of other serdiach clubs operate
- 1:53Speaker 3: these days, it's really difficult to gauge where they'll be
- 1:55Speaker 3: heading into the season. I think only really like Napoli
- 1:58Speaker 3: or Enter had things set in stone for the most part.
- 2:01Speaker 3: As far as like expectations for me, I thought that,
- 2:05Speaker 3: you know, top four is really in the conversation for them.
- 2:08Speaker 3: Anything Screwdato wise is. It's kind of heavy considering how
- 2:13Speaker 3: last year went. And I know we just saw Knopoli
- 2:15Speaker 3: pull off what they did the year prior to that,
- 2:18Speaker 3: but Melan still had question marks. Not believe you know
- 2:20Speaker 3: they kept some of that squad prior to that, their
- 2:23Speaker 3: core was good. You know, Milan is selling off tail
- 2:26Speaker 3: to Joanny Rainders on top of just having a carousel
- 2:30Speaker 3: of managers. It was difficult to kind of gauge. But
- 2:33Speaker 3: when you sign someone like Allegri, regardless of talent on
- 2:36Speaker 3: the squad, you're going to be competing and winning matches.
- 2:39Speaker 3: And you know, like, it was just stupid first game
- 2:43Speaker 3: back to back seasons. Andreano knows this, like it was
- 2:45Speaker 3: just it's just annoying. Milan always can see these stupid
- 2:49Speaker 3: goals or these other worldly goals that you're just like,
- 2:52Speaker 3: that should never be happening to a professional team sometimes,
- 2:56Speaker 3: like I mean, the Bonot Soli goal is arguably goal
- 2:58Speaker 3: of the year in the league, and that as matchday one.
- 3:01Speaker 3: Sometimes you're like, of course, but you know, like I
- 3:04Speaker 3: can't do anything about that. But that first goal in
- 3:06Speaker 3: that game frustrating, only really conceding penalties as of late
- 3:11Speaker 3: the winter was very unlucky against Pisa, but like the
- 3:15Speaker 3: second goal in that game stupid. The goal against Atalanta stupid,
- 3:21Speaker 3: just terrible marketing communication and even with one of the
- 3:24Speaker 3: best managers defensively in league history, they still struggle like
- 3:27Speaker 3: that because the quality at the back is not strong.
- 3:30Speaker 3: You know, Gabya is respectable. Tomory I think has been
- 3:34Speaker 3: better than he has been in the past couple of years,
- 3:36Speaker 3: but there is no like experienced center back that we
- 3:39Speaker 3: could hang our hand on, like someone like Simon Pierre
- 3:42Speaker 3: was so invaluable to Milan in those years when they
- 3:45Speaker 3: started turning it around. I think they're sorely missing that still,
- 3:49Speaker 3: and they haven't been healthy upfront when there's been players
- 3:53Speaker 3: like you know, Humanez and Polisic. Polistics starts off great,
- 3:56Speaker 3: then he gets injured. Over the international break, Layal had
- 3:59Speaker 3: his calf issue, have the first match against Body, and
- 4:02Speaker 3: then Christopher and Kunku comes over. He's got to get
- 4:05Speaker 3: back into match fitness. And then Santi Menez is missing
- 4:07Speaker 3: the most big chances in the league. There's been a
- 4:09Speaker 3: lot of inconsistency, but the results and where they are
- 4:13Speaker 3: on the table, you know, like you ask Milanisti, I'm
- 4:16Speaker 3: sure Adriano you could say the same thing. What three
- 4:19Speaker 3: or four points off the top that starting in November,
- 4:23Speaker 3: and funnily enough, and I'll say this is a final
- 4:26Speaker 3: point before like we have a discussion here they play
- 4:30Speaker 3: once a week, but the schedule's been insane, like they
- 4:32Speaker 3: have played a lot of the top teams so far
- 4:34Speaker 3: and even some of the tougher mid table sides, and
- 4:37Speaker 3: even this one against Roma upcoming very soon, Like it's crazy,
- 4:42Speaker 3: Like how are they playing one match a week where
- 4:43Speaker 3: they get like three days of rest, all of a
- 4:45Speaker 3: sudden they have to play at Atlanta and then they
- 4:47Speaker 3: turn around and play Roma after they just host pisas
- 4:50Speaker 3: home again obviously already playing Napoly and Juve Juve away
- 4:57Speaker 3: away is always difficult, like even even the matches against
- 5:00Speaker 3: the lesser sides way too Like I know I sound ridiculous,
- 5:04Speaker 3: it's Milan the excuses, but these are notoriously annoying games,
- 5:09Speaker 3: and outside of some poor finishing, unlucky finishing, I think
- 5:14Speaker 3: results have been fine for the most part. There's been
- 5:17Speaker 3: two results that I think we could all agree are
- 5:20Speaker 3: unacceptable at home at San Siro as Gremones and Pisa,
- 5:25Speaker 3: even though Pisa is much better than what twentieth Place shows,
- 5:28Speaker 3: it's just inexcuseable. You never want to see anything like that,
- 5:30Speaker 3: and you regret dropping points like that when you see
- 5:34Speaker 3: interloose monopoly and you're very struggling and so on.
- 5:37Speaker 2: Yeah, and just to continue adding to your point, you know,
- 5:40Speaker 2: like it's just in case listeners are not aware. Basically,
- 5:43Speaker 2: you guys start off like you're playing against the majority
- 5:45Speaker 2: of the set that sotly like early on in your
- 5:48Speaker 2: season you wake to the din Atalanta but almost coming
- 5:50Speaker 2: up the Knopoly game, which you know you guys did win.
- 5:54Speaker 1: So at least that was a very very huge one
- 5:56Speaker 1: for you guys.
- 5:58Speaker 2: And you know, for not big city fans like CAMZ
- 6:03Speaker 2: is like not a team to be pushed around with,
- 6:05Speaker 2: you know, like not to mess around with. Sorry, like
- 6:07Speaker 2: the eighth place right now. It's it's crazy how.
- 6:10Speaker 3: They were not to cut you off. They were actually
- 6:14Speaker 3: unlucky a few years ago when they came up. I
- 6:17Speaker 3: don't know if you guys remember, like they were just
- 6:20Speaker 3: so like just losing games or either drawing them in
- 6:23Speaker 3: really unlucky fashion. That was a team who made the
- 6:25Speaker 3: KOPEI semifinals.
- 6:27Speaker 1: Was again that was on fire.
- 6:29Speaker 4: I think they had a oh my god.
- 6:32Speaker 1: The names escaped me now, but yeah, but I remember
- 6:34Speaker 1: there was a striker that.
- 6:35Speaker 3: But like like that's like, yeah, they've been respectable, They're
- 6:39Speaker 3: not really like so scared of it, so like you know,
- 6:41Speaker 3: and then yeah they've been they've been really good this
- 6:43Speaker 3: year when they played against Como, I believe it was recently.
- 6:46Speaker 3: I thought they've been in a good performance.
- 6:48Speaker 1: Or the fifth place, you know what I mean, Como
- 6:50Speaker 1: fifth place.
- 6:51Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean they're they're projects incredible, But you know,
- 6:56Speaker 3: it's just it's just the way Milan is. Man, it's
- 6:58Speaker 3: always turbulent. It just came be smooth sailing always, like
- 7:03Speaker 3: even when they're competing, scratching and clawing Napoli inter win
- 7:07Speaker 3: the league those back to back years, they're like historically dominating.
- 7:11Speaker 3: If Melan do it, they have to scratch a claw,
- 7:13Speaker 3: like it's just the only time where they want it.
- 7:15Speaker 3: Relatively early, I think what was twenty ten to twenty eleven,
- 7:19Speaker 3: so like it's dude, they're just never normal twenty first centuries,
- 7:22Speaker 3: just the most obnoxious like thing to go through. Like
- 7:26Speaker 3: it's just it's very you think they're playing well and
- 7:30Speaker 3: then they get all these injuries and it's not even
- 7:32Speaker 3: their fault. They're all on the international break. None of
- 7:35Speaker 3: them are which are within Melan's like training sessions, being
- 7:38Speaker 3: like ah Celegri or like Conte. You know Monopoly, like
- 7:41Speaker 3: his training sessions are harsh, and it's like no, like,
- 7:44Speaker 3: we're just sending these guys away and they come back
- 7:47Speaker 3: either incapable of playing or they have this knock like love.
- 7:51Speaker 3: This cheek has muscle fatigue? How is that possible? This
- 7:55Speaker 3: guy doesn't play enough, he didn't play with England. How
- 7:57Speaker 3: is he fatigue? Robbio, he played in a game, but
- 8:00Speaker 3: he's heart Cuku playing a game? Big toe hurt? How
- 8:04Speaker 3: how does this? How does this happen? Holistic plays in
- 8:06Speaker 3: a game that he shouldn't have played in. All my
- 8:08Speaker 3: fellow Americans attacked me for it and saying like, yeah,
- 8:13Speaker 3: I don't know what I'm talking about, as if I
- 8:14Speaker 3: don't like watch both closely. It's just annoying. It just
- 8:19Speaker 3: really is like they just can't get that consistency. And
- 8:23Speaker 3: then Ardiashati too, like how did this guy like breaks
- 8:27Speaker 3: his figure and he can't even play a match for us?
- 8:30Speaker 3: Like our two most expensive signings have started zero games
- 8:35Speaker 3: for Meln and their top three signings all combined have
- 8:38Speaker 3: started too because Itchi just got in the lineup. It's
- 8:41Speaker 3: just this is the way it goes. It's just never,
- 8:44Speaker 3: never smooth. But yet not too far.
- 8:47Speaker 5: Off, yeah, not too far off, but you know, and
- 8:49Speaker 5: and I totally agree with with the points. And you know,
- 8:51Speaker 5: I happened to bump into Marcello, president of Uncle Montreal,
- 8:55Speaker 5: our president to hear yes and literally and you know
- 9:01Speaker 5: where we're just shooting the ship and talking and it's like,
- 9:04Speaker 5: you know, yes, we're not far off personally, and just
- 9:08Speaker 5: by looking at the schedule, like you add the win
- 9:14Speaker 5: against Cremonez because I think that needs to be a win.
- 9:16Speaker 4: I'm sorry, I don't want to hear the excuses.
- 9:18Speaker 5: That needs to be a win, the piece of game.
- 9:21Speaker 5: I'm sorry, guys, it needs to be a win instead
- 9:24Speaker 5: of the instead of the draw. So you add just
- 9:27Speaker 5: those and I would even throw in the juva game
- 9:29Speaker 5: personally because you've has been looked awful. Yeah yeah, right,
- 9:34Speaker 5: Like there's there's things that okay, you know what you
- 9:37Speaker 5: want me to accept and kind of swallow that pill. Fine,
- 9:40Speaker 5: you know I will, But you add another four points
- 9:42Speaker 5: and what are we We're in first place? Like it's
- 9:45Speaker 5: it's it's these marginal errors Martino like and you know,
- 9:49Speaker 5: just like I do by watching the team week in
- 9:52Speaker 5: week out, it's it's these marginal details where you know,
- 9:56Speaker 5: one thing can change and where no longer we are
- 10:00Speaker 5: fighting dropping from first down to fourth in the span
- 10:03Speaker 5: of what two week match days three match days where
- 10:06Speaker 5: we're yeah yeah, five days.
- 10:09Speaker 4: Not even a week.
- 10:10Speaker 5: You know, we stay on first place and maybe build
- 10:13Speaker 5: off a bit of a lead. And now you know,
- 10:17Speaker 5: not to say not to be doom and gloom, but
- 10:19Speaker 5: it's it's it's frustrating.
- 10:21Speaker 4: It really is fruscating because I think a lot of
- 10:23Speaker 4: the are.
- 10:24Speaker 5: The the the issues or or you know, the talk
- 10:29Speaker 5: around this team is is self inflicted. It becomes something
- 10:32Speaker 5: that's self inflicted and besides barring the injuries that you name,
- 10:35Speaker 5: and that's kind of out of our control and we
- 10:37Speaker 5: can have a whole other podcast for that at another time,
- 10:40Speaker 5: but you know what we can control and why we're
- 10:44Speaker 5: in the positions we're in, it's all self inflicted, or
- 10:46Speaker 5: most of it, I would say self inflicted in my opinion.
- 10:49Speaker 3: So the coed or just yeah, Monierre, all we do
- 10:55Speaker 3: is can see chick goals, yeah goal for them to
- 10:59Speaker 3: tie it up like that was, I don't even know
- 11:01Speaker 3: what that was. It was embarrassing, bouncing off of multiple
- 11:03Speaker 3: guys Tappen Monopoly it's a penalty that should have like
- 11:07Speaker 3: a stup making a moronic mistake. I believe there was
- 11:12Speaker 3: another penalty as well that they conceded in September. I'm
- 11:17Speaker 3: drawing a blank on who it was against. But like
- 11:20Speaker 3: they're just dumb, like the second goal against Pisa, Like
- 11:23Speaker 3: how is that? How is that like possible? Like when
- 11:26Speaker 3: I when I see like players fall down for fun
- 11:28Speaker 3: of doing what he's doing, just I don't want to
- 11:31Speaker 3: curse because but like I don't understand this shit. It's
- 11:35Speaker 3: exhaust it's exhausting because they're professionals. This isn't like, you know, oh,
- 11:40Speaker 3: like you're playing up against Pep's Barsa or the elite
- 11:43Speaker 3: of the elite Satia teams that we've seen, Like these
- 11:45Speaker 3: are just so avoidable for professional It's like even yesterday
- 11:49Speaker 3: against Atalanta, how are Tamori and Fofana in that situation
- 11:53Speaker 3: where these guys are lacking in communication skills but one
- 11:58Speaker 3: of the watch players, one of the best players in
- 12:01Speaker 3: the league, you know, Like that's that's what in furious.
- 12:04Speaker 3: But I even last year too, like we're leaving couple
- 12:08Speaker 3: winners wide open in the box unmarked Pavlovitch late in
- 12:13Speaker 3: the in the Kremloneza game. It's just it's just so fundamental.
- 12:17Speaker 3: Because the funny thing is, I didn't grow up playing
- 12:19Speaker 3: this sport, right, I played a lot of basketball. Okay,
- 12:22Speaker 3: you have to know where your man in the ball
- 12:24Speaker 3: is at all times, for sure, and that's an elementary
- 12:27Speaker 3: thing taught. I don't understand how it evades professionals so often,
- 12:33Speaker 3: so often, this ball watching and and it's gotta be frustrating.
- 12:37Speaker 3: And I got to give credit to Allegory for not
- 12:39Speaker 3: losing his school, because he does lose the school often.
- 12:41Speaker 3: When he talks postmatch, you kind of understand the sense
- 12:44Speaker 3: of hesych It's okay, we survive this. We have to understand,
- 12:47Speaker 3: like the Monopoly game, like they were suffering. I was
- 12:50Speaker 3: so proud after that Monopoly game because of like how
- 12:52Speaker 3: they avoided a defeat or even a draw on that one.
- 12:55Speaker 3: You're like, Okay, maybe this team hask something and then
- 12:57Speaker 3: they do the results that they get recently, and you're like, yeah,
- 13:00Speaker 3: I know these happened during the season, but like this,
- 13:03Speaker 3: to me, it's sort of like a trend because it's
- 13:05Speaker 3: happened in the previous seasons. In the one where you
- 13:08Speaker 3: just finished eighth place. So that's hard to like shake
- 13:11Speaker 3: it off.
- 13:11Speaker 5: It's PTSD absolutely, I just want it's just kind of
- 13:15Speaker 5: like to move off this this this topic.
- 13:18Speaker 4: And kind of move forward.
- 13:19Speaker 5: Martino, you know, obviously with the lebrity coming in and
- 13:23Speaker 5: you know he's he's kind of been the master obviously
- 13:25Speaker 5: in the league. We we know his track record, right,
- 13:27Speaker 5: obviously has history with the club. And what do you
- 13:32Speaker 5: because you know, I I see on our end here Montreal,
- 13:35Speaker 5: the meal needs to hear on our chat and obviously
- 13:38Speaker 5: you go online and you know you guys do great
- 13:40Speaker 5: work on your end meal and weekly podcast, other content
- 13:42Speaker 5: creators push and and stuff like that. But what do
- 13:46Speaker 5: you make of just the formation? Uh, the tactics? Uh
- 13:52Speaker 5: do you agree? Do you disagree?
- 13:53Speaker 3: Uh?
- 13:54Speaker 4: What?
- 13:54Speaker 2: Like?
- 13:54Speaker 4: What do you make of it? Because if I if
- 13:56Speaker 4: I can say what I think is.
- 13:59Speaker 5: I know allegriies notorious for putting players out of position
- 14:03Speaker 5: and trying to make that work.
- 14:06Speaker 4: Personally, I don't see.
- 14:09Speaker 5: Like we're walking goals from strikers forwards, right, Like obviously
- 14:15Speaker 5: Leo goes on these little runs and he has good performances,
- 14:18Speaker 5: and I'm a fan of way Out, I don't I'm
- 14:21Speaker 5: not a fan of putting these players in positions where
- 14:24Speaker 5: they're not going to succeed at their fullest. I just
- 14:27Speaker 5: wanted your maybe your opinion on that is the three
- 14:28Speaker 5: five to two the way to go, Like what's your
- 14:32Speaker 5: This is.
- 14:32Speaker 3: The whole problem with this is like a bigger discussion
- 14:35Speaker 3: that could just only be a podcast like Matt and
- 14:37Speaker 3: I do this all the time. Yeah, where it's This
- 14:39Speaker 3: isn't an allegory thing. This is a management thing. This
- 14:42Speaker 3: is a revolving door of them not having a sporting
- 14:44Speaker 3: director in the Redbird era after they sack Maldini. This
- 14:48Speaker 3: is no consistency of a plan. This is you win
- 14:51Speaker 3: Super Copa in January. Well, we go back to like
- 14:54Speaker 3: Fon s want certain players. He says he likes Alecxa
- 14:57Speaker 3: salent makers. They loan out sala makers to Roma and
- 15:00Speaker 3: then you know, like they sacked the manager and let
- 15:03Speaker 3: him talk to the press. Right after that, they don't
- 15:06Speaker 3: address any of it. Then in January they go on
- 15:09Speaker 3: this spending spree. They immediately sell some of the players
- 15:12Speaker 3: that they had bought in the summer, and they make
- 15:14Speaker 3: these big money purchases for a manager in which they
- 15:18Speaker 3: didn't even guarantee him to stay on past June in
- 15:22Speaker 3: May and Conseso. So their plan is lacking severely. Late
- 15:27Speaker 3: into the window. Like I had mentioned earlier, they're talking
- 15:30Speaker 3: about Santi Menez going and there's rumors of like alleg
- 15:34Speaker 3: he wants Vlahovic, he wants his guy in there, and
- 15:37Speaker 3: he's not getting that. He's only really gotten Robbyol Out
- 15:40Speaker 3: of all the players that, like we have rumored, two
- 15:43Speaker 3: have been deemed that he wants. And you're kind of
- 15:47Speaker 3: sitting there saying to yourself, Okay, what's the plan? And
- 15:50Speaker 3: there is no plan. I don't think there is. I
- 15:52Speaker 3: think that they're trying to bridge the gap with a
- 15:54Speaker 3: lot of players and talent, and their goal as always
- 15:59Speaker 3: is to just make top four to get their money
- 16:02Speaker 3: because the owner doesn't want to invest capital and can
- 16:05Speaker 3: invest capital in the club, and uh, this has just
- 16:08Speaker 3: been all over the place. They don't they don't make sense.
- 16:10Speaker 3: They want to play a four to two three one
- 16:12Speaker 3: system last year and the year prior, and they buy
- 16:15Speaker 3: guys who were not naturalized defensive midfielders. Loftis, Cheek and
- 16:19Speaker 3: Reindeers are playing in a double pivot next to each other.
- 16:22Speaker 3: This goes before a leg a Leegury. I think he
- 16:26Speaker 3: saw his squad and what he was given and he said, shit,
- 16:31Speaker 3: I can't. I can't do back for with this. Who
- 16:34Speaker 3: is my right back? What right back do I have?
- 16:36Speaker 3: He doesn't have one? Who's he supposed to play at?
- 16:39Speaker 3: The comment? No, Alexis sylent Maker is very successful at
- 16:42Speaker 3: the right wing back position. Left wing back. Yeah, I
- 16:45Speaker 3: don't have the players a stupid yion to maybe do that,
- 16:47Speaker 3: But I have a bevy of midfielders. I could play
- 16:51Speaker 3: three there instead of just you know, if he plays two,
- 16:55Speaker 3: if he's stuck with a four to two three one,
- 16:57Speaker 3: who's he playing at the ten? They don't have a ten?
- 16:59Speaker 3: Is Goo? Maybe? But then, like I mentioned to Matt
- 17:02Speaker 3: and everybody else all the time, all right, you go
- 17:04Speaker 3: to four two three one, it's Motridge paired next to
- 17:06Speaker 3: a Richie or whoever else. You pick your midfielder, and
- 17:09Speaker 3: then who are the four attackers? The only four attackers
- 17:12Speaker 3: in the squad. So you're gonna be playing them every
- 17:14Speaker 3: single week, is what you're telling me, regardless if it's
- 17:16Speaker 3: once a week or not. You cannot do that. It's
- 17:19Speaker 3: impossible to succeed like that. We got these guys injured
- 17:22Speaker 3: and they weren't even playing with us. What would happen
- 17:24Speaker 3: if they did. I just don't think he's been given
- 17:29Speaker 3: the tools for the players that he likes, and if
- 17:32Speaker 3: he wants to get a player in, they have to
- 17:34Speaker 3: sell someone in order to do that, and them missing
- 17:37Speaker 3: Europe entirely through a monkey wrench and everything because they
- 17:41Speaker 3: just had to sell players to stay afloat. Malik Choo
- 17:44Speaker 3: is someone that had been rumored that Alegy wanted to
- 17:47Speaker 3: keep and I thought he could have been good in
- 17:49Speaker 3: a back four back. There's a different story, but you
- 17:52Speaker 3: know they see forty million in their faces for a
- 17:54Speaker 3: guy who's inconsistent and not playing well. They have to
- 17:57Speaker 3: take it. Why because it's Italy, they don't have money.
- 17:59Speaker 3: They don't have money. And allegory is basically having to
- 18:04Speaker 3: play this style, which they were playing well before all
- 18:07Speaker 3: these injuries. So I cannot rip allegree because everyone likes
- 18:10Speaker 3: to do this all allegury ball. That's boring this or that. No,
- 18:13Speaker 3: they eviscerated. They were playing well against Napoli before the
- 18:16Speaker 3: red card. They were putting pedal to the medal. And
- 18:20Speaker 3: that's without Layo, that's without in Kunku doing anything, and
- 18:23Speaker 3: Santimen is missing every chance possible. So for me, I
- 18:27Speaker 3: the formation because like I know what you're thinking in
- 18:31Speaker 3: the back of our heads. Sure Schudeto is cool this
- 18:34Speaker 3: or that, everyone and every supporter for this club wants
- 18:37Speaker 3: number eight in the Champions League. That's what everyone thinks about.
- 18:41Speaker 3: And we know the way Allegory plays and the players
- 18:44Speaker 3: that they have, they're not even close. They're not even
- 18:46Speaker 3: remotely close to getting there. And I think that's where
- 18:49Speaker 3: my frustration comes from, because they were kind of close
- 18:53Speaker 3: or at least moving in that direction, and you get
- 18:55Speaker 3: pulled back and knocked down a bunch of pegs despite
- 18:58Speaker 3: this financial health that you brand about. So I just
- 19:01Speaker 3: I get irritated by it. And you could point fingers
- 19:04Speaker 3: at the people who play and manage the team, but
- 19:08Speaker 3: the reality is they have really poor leadership that nobody
- 19:11Speaker 3: knew how to do their job. And I talk to
- 19:13Speaker 3: people at the club or people who used to work
- 19:15Speaker 3: there as well, there is no like what does Laton
- 19:19Speaker 3: do's Loaton works for Redbird, but he's working for Milan.
- 19:23Speaker 3: He talks about being invested in deals like he was
- 19:26Speaker 3: the main guy who got Morata over to Milan in
- 19:29Speaker 3: the first place. So it's like, are you a director?
- 19:31Speaker 3: Are you this guy who's making funny quotes, like what
- 19:35Speaker 3: is your role here? That's not defined? Furlani is supposedly
- 19:39Speaker 3: has final say on all these decisions, a guy who
- 19:42Speaker 3: has no experience in this, in this industry in terms
- 19:45Speaker 3: of sports, he has no background. He's a financial guy,
- 19:48Speaker 3: which is like fine to an extent. But you know,
- 19:50Speaker 3: when it was Gazidis, Maldini, Massara, you knew what their
- 19:54Speaker 3: roles were, and even Moncata. Everybody had their roles, their positions.
- 19:58Speaker 3: Everyone knew when they were able to talk, when they
- 20:00Speaker 3: or not. Because Zidis was CEO, Maldini and Masada were
- 20:03Speaker 3: both the directors, and then Moncada's chief scout. There's a
- 20:06Speaker 3: pecking order, there's a hierarchy. It all made sense now,
- 20:09Speaker 3: Meanlan at least a little bit better with Alegriai Tare.
- 20:13Speaker 3: It makes sense of where everybody is and what they're
- 20:15Speaker 3: supposed to do. But you know, the mistakes made of
- 20:18Speaker 3: the previous couple of seasons still affect now. This is
- 20:23Speaker 3: not like something that just appeared out of nowhere. They
- 20:26Speaker 3: were eighth place. I don't know how much you remember
- 20:29Speaker 3: when we were kids, But like this, that was the
- 20:31Speaker 3: worst Serdias season relative to expectation. That was the worst
- 20:35Speaker 3: Serdias season for Milan. I don't care, like when in
- 20:37Speaker 3: Zagie was managing seedor like I knew they were gonna
- 20:40Speaker 3: be shit. It was. It is what it is. Yeah,
- 20:42Speaker 3: this that was inexcusable, especially when they're like banging out
- 20:46Speaker 3: their drum. Hey, we got another article from Cultural Financia
- 20:50Speaker 3: of Milan's got record profits. I don't give a shit.
- 20:52Speaker 3: We just were eighth. What does that matter? It's that's
- 20:57Speaker 3: the stuff. And I know I got a little away
- 20:59Speaker 3: from the tactics, but how can you worry about tactics
- 21:02Speaker 3: when everything else is in chaos? Because you can't build
- 21:05Speaker 3: anything when you have no foundation. And maybe there's some
- 21:09Speaker 3: semblance of it now, but I look at the center
- 21:12Speaker 3: backs and I say, you know, that's not good enough.
- 21:14Speaker 3: This isn't enough. So yeah, I mean, what what do
- 21:18Speaker 3: you what do you want them about to? Maybe a
- 21:19Speaker 3: four three three I guess would be the only other
- 21:22Speaker 3: formation we try. It's exhausting, you.
- 21:25Speaker 2: Know, yeah, And I honestly like looking at Milan. You know,
- 21:29Speaker 2: a legacy is doing a legacy things where you guys
- 21:32Speaker 2: have only conceded seven goals in nine games. Like Magnyan
- 21:34Speaker 2: has been great. Obviously it's because it's magic Mike, right,
- 21:37Speaker 2: we can't complain about that too much.
- 21:39Speaker 5: But like he's he is for what he I think
- 21:42Speaker 5: what three for them have only happened in the last
- 21:44Speaker 5: like five days.
- 21:44Speaker 2: No, yeah, because they get the notifications on my Panta
- 21:49Speaker 2: culture every time, because I have Magnan and Layout on
- 21:51Speaker 2: my Panta team.
- 21:52Speaker 1: But that's just for giggles.
- 21:55Speaker 2: But I I I do see the frustration in this
- 21:58Speaker 2: because you know, Alegty is a top manager.
- 22:01Speaker 1: He's won many scudette.
- 22:03Speaker 2: Uh, and I know that people are gonna say, like, okay,
- 22:04Speaker 2: Like I like to argue that, like he invested a
- 22:06Speaker 2: good Juventus from Conte. But he started to continue that
- 22:08Speaker 2: and he took a ten to twenty ten twenty eleven
- 22:11Speaker 2: Milan into their championship win that year.
- 22:14Speaker 3: And he got unlucky to not win the second one.
- 22:16Speaker 3: It was very unlucky that season. They did not have
- 22:19Speaker 3: any money or financials. He lost all of his players. Yeah,
- 22:22Speaker 3: they one of the best center backs of a generation,
- 22:25Speaker 3: one of the best strikers of a generation. He's still
- 22:27Speaker 3: made Champions League the next year. Which I know was
- 22:29Speaker 3: a miracle because but like.
- 22:33Speaker 2: Still, but like you may like, I'm just a little
- 22:37Speaker 2: bit like this is more of a me thing.
- 22:38Speaker 1: I guess I'm asking.
- 22:39Speaker 3: I'm a little bit baffled.
- 22:40Speaker 2: So you think MILANISTI are amy more for the eighth
- 22:44Speaker 2: Champions League title versus a twentieth scudetto to tie with
- 22:48Speaker 2: me entered to get that second start. Do you think
- 22:51Speaker 2: maybe that's maybe more within the vision board right now?
- 22:54Speaker 3: I think I think mostly what Melan fans wanted to
- 22:58Speaker 3: see his new ownership above anything. Ye sure, that goes
- 23:01Speaker 3: without saying yeah, I listen. The reason why I'm so
- 23:07Speaker 3: proud to be a fan of this club is European success.
- 23:10Speaker 3: Domestics success is great. But when INTARISTI always talk about
- 23:16Speaker 3: all those things. They won multiple league titles under Mancinia Morino,
- 23:20Speaker 3: They've won under in Zogie and Conte, and I understand
- 23:24Speaker 3: the one under in Zogie was big, it was the
- 23:25Speaker 3: second star, it was against us, I get it. But
- 23:28Speaker 3: you know what they don't shut up about, and rightfully
- 23:30Speaker 3: so is the trouble why because they won the Champions
- 23:32Speaker 3: League for the first time in like five five decades
- 23:35Speaker 3: or so. Sorry, it's been only one in five decades.
- 23:38Speaker 3: My mistake they've had. But but you know, that was
- 23:43Speaker 3: the biggest thing. What keeps you Ventini up at.
- 23:46Speaker 2: Night in the Champions League finals, it's losing the champions Yeah,
- 23:50Speaker 2: but they've won thirty six Skudetti. That's the thing for them.
- 23:52Speaker 3: And yet that exactly my point. They've won it more
- 23:55Speaker 3: than anyone else has. I don't know what the thirty
- 23:58Speaker 3: six is the correct one. Some of them like thirty eight.
- 24:00Speaker 1: Yeah, do you think it's thirty eight?
- 24:03Speaker 4: I know, yeah, like you could be thirty four. We
- 24:06Speaker 4: never know, you know, But.
- 24:08Speaker 3: Like you know, Scudetti is supposed to come in time,
- 24:12Speaker 3: and like you know, leagues or Melan is bizarre with leagues.
- 24:16Speaker 3: When when Melan went leagues, Sadiya is great.
- 24:19Speaker 1: It's really good when both melads.
- 24:21Speaker 2: Sorry for interrupting, but I feel like it's when both
- 24:24Speaker 2: me like no this like no, I know interns arrivals,
- 24:26Speaker 2: when both Melans are like top of the table fighting
- 24:29Speaker 2: for the league.
- 24:30Speaker 3: It is but like even when inter was winning, like
- 24:33Speaker 3: Melon has been dysfunctional, they wont they won one. I
- 24:36Speaker 3: don't even know how they won that one, to be
- 24:38Speaker 3: honest with you, Funny, they've been dysfunctional, and there's been
- 24:41Speaker 3: on this like even if it's been slow at time,
- 24:43Speaker 3: this trajectory has been upwards for them for a very
- 24:46Speaker 3: long time. We've only finished ahead of them maybe like
- 24:48Speaker 3: twice since I don't know, maybe twenty fifteen. It might
- 24:52Speaker 3: have been only one time. And that's the thing that
- 24:56Speaker 3: like people are forgetting, like Inter when they when they one,
- 25:00Speaker 3: like you know, you've got relegated. Milan had those points deductions.
- 25:04Speaker 3: You know, Inters like winning swimming league like no problems
- 25:07Speaker 3: juve when they're winning in the twenty tens. Milan and
- 25:09Speaker 3: Inter both stuck when Milan becomes good said he has
- 25:12Speaker 3: the greatest league in the world, and it's like it's
- 25:14Speaker 3: like a timing thing. So like for me, like Scudetti
- 25:18Speaker 3: are like great, but like we're also winning the biggest trophies.
- 25:21Speaker 3: We're going deepest into the Champions League, like Contant like
- 25:24Speaker 3: to me, like the error that we grew up in
- 25:27Speaker 3: and Andriano knows this, like this isn't right and it's
- 25:30Speaker 3: not because all like it was our childhood and like
- 25:33Speaker 3: this no like that, like we've seen intermake a couple
- 25:35Speaker 3: Champions League finals. We've seen you've been making a couple
- 25:37Speaker 3: of Champions League finals, Mielon, it's one semi final and
- 25:41Speaker 3: god knows how long, and since two thousand and seven,
- 25:43Speaker 3: it's getting knocked out against an inferior Roma on paper
- 25:47Speaker 3: in the Europa League. It's stuff like that, like you
- 25:49Speaker 3: gut like it's just falling short everywhere Kope Italia. It's
- 25:52Speaker 3: been over twenty years. When people give a shit, some
- 25:54Speaker 3: don't Scudetti, Right, Johnny, you win this year? Right? Okay?
- 26:00Speaker 3: If not Poly win this year, I'm talking the Nopoly
- 26:02Speaker 3: side of you. I would have seen what three league
- 26:05Speaker 3: titles correct?
- 26:06Speaker 1: I've seen what I've seen three Our match is correct
- 26:08Speaker 1: here for Monopoly specifically three.
- 26:10Speaker 3: Yes, I've heard so far whatever two thousand three. Yeah,
- 26:17Speaker 3: but like think about it. A Monopoly fan my age
- 26:20Speaker 3: and Andreano's age has seen the same amount of Scudetti
- 26:24Speaker 3: as a Milanista consciously remember, right, Like if you're in
- 26:28Speaker 3: your early thirties, I don't remember in the late nineties.
- 26:30Speaker 3: I'm not gonna lie to you, right. So it's like
- 26:32Speaker 3: when Taka game twenty ten, twenty eleven, and then twenty one,
- 26:37Speaker 3: twenty two, that's it. It's just three times. So yeah,
- 26:40Speaker 3: I care about the Champions League. That's the most important
- 26:44Speaker 3: thing because like that's when you think of Milan and
- 26:46Speaker 3: your ultimate goal, Like you're the you're a Pats fan, right, yeah,
- 26:49Speaker 3: Hats make the playoffs this year. Oh that's a nice
- 26:51Speaker 3: cute story. What do we want? We want to it
- 26:54Speaker 3: would be a seventh Super Bowl?
- 26:55Speaker 1: Right, yeah, seventh super Can you give a.
- 26:56Speaker 3: Shit about that? Yeah, he's like other.
- 26:59Speaker 2: Things, but I also understand, like and this I'm I'm
- 27:02Speaker 2: doing this in defense of Melan. By the way, please
- 27:04Speaker 2: don't think of me as antagonist. I also understand the
- 27:07Speaker 2: limitations of for example, if let's use the Patriots for example,
- 27:09Speaker 2: because is also a Pats fan, Like, if they make
- 27:12Speaker 2: the playoffs, stat's going already beyond our expectations. Because I'll
- 27:15Speaker 2: be honest with you, I thought the Pat's gonna be
- 27:16Speaker 2: seven to nine this season so far, the six and two.
- 27:19Speaker 2: But like we have because we know the limitations of
- 27:21Speaker 2: what's going on within the team itself and given Melan,
- 27:24Speaker 2: you know, like you just mentioned it perfectly.
- 27:26Speaker 1: Financials is very big.
- 27:28Speaker 2: I like, like with Notorious A Lazzio for not really
- 27:32Speaker 2: spending any money. He was he was more or less
- 27:35Speaker 2: a bit of a penny picture looking for true but
- 27:40Speaker 2: but like also like the comments from Camale today recently
- 27:44Speaker 2: that Martino brought up on Twitter, I'm we're gonna get
- 27:47Speaker 2: to that in a bit. You want to expand a
- 27:48Speaker 2: little bit on that, Like Melan is like it is
- 27:53Speaker 2: in also a tough situation, like Juventus was also in a.
- 27:55Speaker 1: Tough situation, you know, like financially, you know, like they
- 27:58Speaker 1: have to like there's some.
- 28:00Speaker 3: You you still break, like transfer records that Melan haven't
- 28:04Speaker 3: broken in twenty years, and they you make it a
- 28:08Speaker 3: fan could go like in their couch in between the
- 28:10Speaker 3: cushions and pull out thirty million. Yeah that's but that's
- 28:13Speaker 3: what they do. Like it's just well.
- 28:15Speaker 2: Because they're fudging their numbers right, oh.
- 28:19Speaker 4: There mustache and those numbers a bit too nice.
- 28:22Speaker 3: Listen, they're richer Melan. They're just as dumb, they're just
- 28:25Speaker 3: as dysfunctional, but they have more money to spend. The
- 28:28Speaker 3: wage bill's nearly double. It's it's like hilarious when I
- 28:32Speaker 3: when I see that stuff and people are like, well,
- 28:34Speaker 3: it's not really about the way, Yes it is, it matters. Yes,
- 28:37Speaker 3: let's not play stupid here. You have more money than God,
- 28:40Speaker 3: than anyone in this league, the resources, But you think
- 28:43Speaker 3: Knopoly couldn't come close to Yournopolieves are like getting close
- 28:45Speaker 3: to ninety However many points under Sadi that year. Why
- 28:49Speaker 3: did you Why because you can go and drop ninety
- 28:51Speaker 3: million on your best player and take them from you
- 28:54Speaker 3: in the league. That's the difference. Melan Again, Rui Costa
- 28:59Speaker 3: is the record transfer? What else do I have to say?
- 29:04Speaker 3: Napoli beatn that. Napoli have beaten that multiple times, not Poli,
- 29:09Speaker 3: no disrespect, But like, if we're really talking about it
- 29:12Speaker 3: here inter when Sooning had money before COVID happened, how
- 29:15Speaker 3: many times were they smashing the record? Milan do this
- 29:18Speaker 3: thing and Andreano knows this Where I say, ah, well,
- 29:21Speaker 3: we'll barter around in the twenty to twenty five million area.
- 29:24Speaker 3: These guys could be good or they could not be.
- 29:27Speaker 3: But I know one thing. When Juve buy Iguayhin, they
- 29:31Speaker 3: know he's great. Why because he's done everywhere. When when
- 29:34Speaker 3: entered by Hikini he was good at Dortmun he's a
- 29:37Speaker 3: real Madrid guy. They buy Lukaku, we know that. Milan
- 29:41Speaker 3: it's like, hmm, let's roll the dice. Santi Menez, how
- 29:44Speaker 3: about you come on down buddy, like can you can
- 29:47Speaker 3: you do what we want? As the Milan number nine?
- 29:50Speaker 3: We wear seven. But you know what I'm saying here,
- 29:53Speaker 3: like they just they never do this thing, and they
- 29:56Speaker 3: spent all this money over the summer, Like what it's
- 29:58Speaker 3: uh seventy five million between in Cunku and yeah yeah
- 30:03Speaker 3: and yah Shadi.
- 30:05Speaker 4: It's almost eighty million, right yeah for those two.
- 30:07Speaker 3: Yeah, just for those two right. Use the example. You're
- 30:10Speaker 3: Shoty had one season in the top flight in Club Ruga.
- 30:13Speaker 3: He could be good. I don't know yet, you know.
- 30:16Speaker 3: And Cunku I knew immediately once we bought him. I'm like,
- 30:18Speaker 3: where's this guy gonna play? And he's a right like
- 30:21Speaker 3: close to our record signing, like this is the ship.
- 30:24Speaker 3: That's just like enough. And they wouldn't like cough up
- 30:27Speaker 3: money for Leoni. I get it, he got injured, but
- 30:29Speaker 3: it's it's just like, yeah, come line man, like this
- 30:33Speaker 3: is melan, Like I understand if you straight up tell
- 30:36Speaker 3: your supporters like Maldini did, like we this is gonna
- 30:40Speaker 3: take a while. We have to play in the Champions League,
- 30:42Speaker 3: we have to qualify for it. We can make some investments,
- 30:45Speaker 3: but you know, like this this whole like back and
- 30:47Speaker 3: forth of like will theyre won't they? We got fringe
- 30:51Speaker 3: top young proccause thirty five million is really for a
- 30:54Speaker 3: top prospect these days. Like look how much money like
- 30:56Speaker 3: Endric goes for all these other top guys like the
- 31:00Speaker 3: here that Milan are fighting for with players. They just
- 31:02Speaker 3: don't have it man, realistically, Like how long the Yeshadi
- 31:07Speaker 3: negotiations go for? Oh my god, it's a telenovela every time, man,
- 31:13Speaker 3: Like it's no other club has this. I mean you've
- 31:15Speaker 3: to an extent, but like what other big club that
- 31:18Speaker 3: boast about financials has to go through this bullshit? Nobody
- 31:21Speaker 3: does this what we're sick of. And I know I'm
- 31:24Speaker 3: beating a dead horse here, but it's the same thing. Man.
- 31:28Speaker 3: That's why you can't get any closer because you know,
- 31:32Speaker 3: word sucks at Liverpool right now. But like they win
- 31:36Speaker 3: the league, they're like, oh yeah, we're going on and
- 31:38Speaker 3: we're pushing our chips a little bit further. Milan they
- 31:41Speaker 3: don't do that. They spent on one player after they
- 31:44Speaker 3: won the league title? Are you kidding me? I Like,
- 31:48Speaker 3: who does that? And it was it was of course
- 31:49Speaker 3: he's a flop in Like it's just infuriating because when
- 31:54Speaker 3: Milan are ready to take the next step and should
- 31:57Speaker 3: they don't. It's like they go back shoot some ladders,
- 32:00Speaker 3: they go down the shoote and they have to start
- 32:02Speaker 3: over again. It's the most obnoxious club to root for
- 32:05Speaker 3: out of all the big clubs in the world. There's
- 32:07Speaker 3: no doubt. Maybe United.
- 32:10Speaker 2: Well, I mean you touched upon about just like turns
- 32:13Speaker 2: of finances and like free Chanser being like Madrich for example.
- 32:18Speaker 2: I mean, I know, like a lot of these things
- 32:21Speaker 2: you've been talking about just basically been four quarters for
- 32:23Speaker 2: a dollar instead of actually spending money on like a
- 32:26Speaker 2: quality player. But you know, Madach, especially with Leo being
- 32:30Speaker 2: probably like the biggest lynchpin of the Milan squad for
- 32:34Speaker 2: the past what five seasons, six seasons?
- 32:36Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, like you're seven, not yeah you're.
- 32:40Speaker 2: Seven, Like do you think that, you know, every once
- 32:45Speaker 2: in a while something like that, it like, despite the
- 32:49Speaker 2: financial situations, could happen, like like I don't know how
- 32:52Speaker 2: to like phrase the question.
- 32:53Speaker 3: Like yeah, when the blind fins and not every once
- 32:56Speaker 3: in a while, Yeah, broken clock is right twice a day.
- 32:58Speaker 3: Do you think.
- 32:59Speaker 2: Honestly speaking out just reinforces this happen of just bargain
- 33:03Speaker 2: bin hunting, you know what I mean, like.
- 33:05Speaker 3: Like where they get lucky for once and like a
- 33:07Speaker 3: guy just like exceeds expectations. Yeah, I don't know, bro,
- 33:12Speaker 3: like if Kamarda like actually is like the prodigital soun
- 33:17Speaker 3: like can that happen? Can that happen for us? Please?
- 33:20Speaker 3: Like like you know, like into BOSTONI like Smash like
- 33:25Speaker 3: incredible signing one of their best parrella like no doubt,
- 33:29Speaker 3: like they take hawk Gun on a free, like Modridge
- 33:31Speaker 3: is forty as good as you're gonna be, Like it
- 33:34Speaker 3: could be this year as an option for next, Like
- 33:37Speaker 3: Layo was like that blue chip talent that there they
- 33:40Speaker 3: can roll the dice on. They had more depth than
- 33:43Speaker 3: like even like who's a depth player that's better than
- 33:46Speaker 3: Ante Rabbits right now? When Rebich was playing at his
- 33:49Speaker 3: best at me, there isn't There's not many when Rebbits
- 33:52Speaker 3: was good and giving his shit. I don't know, ya
- 33:57Speaker 3: shot he maybe that guy. We haven't really seen him yet.
- 34:00Speaker 3: I would hope to God that he could you know,
- 34:03Speaker 3: show levels to it. I think someone like Bartizagi has
- 34:07Speaker 3: been relatively impressive. He's still a nineteen year old kid
- 34:11Speaker 3: playing well. Enough in some really big games, like he's
- 34:15Speaker 3: like to not be completely awful, Like, uh, was it
- 34:20Speaker 3: Maria Nucci right against UH Milan? Right? Is that the
- 34:23Speaker 3: Knopoli kid? Yeah, So, like you know, when he's a
- 34:27Speaker 3: deer in the headlights, he looks terrified and stuff like that.
- 34:30Speaker 3: Bartizagi is like he's growing from that. And and sometimes
- 34:33Speaker 3: you do just know when a kid has something, or
- 34:35Speaker 3: when a younger player like okay, this would be good,
- 34:38Speaker 3: Like Layout scores against uh Fiorentina's first ever goal, You're like, whoa,
- 34:43Speaker 3: who is that? How good is this kid? Actually? Suchich
- 34:46Speaker 3: today for Inter that goal was incredible. You're like, that
- 34:49Speaker 3: kid is going to be good. And there got another
- 34:52Speaker 3: player like that, Bony has been terrific Milan. It's sort
- 34:55Speaker 3: of like Santi Menez starts off relatively strong and then
- 34:58Speaker 3: disaster Christoph Biond starts off strong, guys boom booming his
- 35:03Speaker 3: way over to like Turksy like three months after that.
- 35:07Speaker 3: It's not even like bad luck, it's just their poorly
- 35:10Speaker 3: ran and and they and they're mixed with bad luck too.
- 35:13Speaker 3: I mean like Andrea Conte Caldara, Like if we go
- 35:17Speaker 3: back to that, people are like, oh, these suck their flops,
- 35:20Speaker 3: like bro, they shattered their acls in training, they snapped
- 35:25Speaker 3: their achilles doing nothing.
- 35:27Speaker 4: Like a chance to get going.
- 35:30Speaker 3: Yeah, that sets you back for years when you invest
- 35:33Speaker 3: like ship like that. Like as much as I defended
- 35:36Speaker 3: the guy, it's over thirty million, the guy like not
- 35:39Speaker 3: even We're not even saying like, Okay, this transfer didn't
- 35:42Speaker 3: work out. He didn't reach the expectations we wanted. He's
- 35:44Speaker 3: not even close. He's not even mediocre. He's great ass awful.
- 35:52Speaker 5: Yeah, absolute, Yeah, the cinema, but like that's like the but.
- 36:00Speaker 2: Then you go to talata and just all of a
- 36:02Speaker 2: sudden performs like outworldly, you know, like notility.
- 36:08Speaker 3: And a decent enough system. It's just it's kind of
- 36:12Speaker 3: just stuff like that. It's missing out on like players
- 36:14Speaker 3: when they could have had a little bit more money,
- 36:17Speaker 3: a little bit more aggression, a little bit more ambition,
- 36:21Speaker 3: right like Enzo Fernandez spend Boltman. These guys were close,
- 36:24Speaker 3: they wanted to come to Melan. They're like, I don't know,
- 36:26Speaker 3: I think we want to spend money over here on
- 36:29Speaker 3: someone that won't work out. Julian Albandrez January. He was
- 36:33Speaker 3: literally available. He could have been Milan's like number nine
- 36:35Speaker 3: for the future. They had the money, they knew they
- 36:38Speaker 3: were making. The champions like Jered card Denale and Redbird
- 36:40Speaker 3: were like, no, we're not giving them money. He goes
- 36:42Speaker 3: to Manchester City like it's stuff like that, Like that's
- 36:47Speaker 3: they even miss out on the blue chip guys when
- 36:49Speaker 3: they're really close to them. It's just infuriating. So I
- 36:53Speaker 3: don't know if that answered it.
- 36:54Speaker 1: It's just you're making me angry.
- 36:58Speaker 5: But I think in a bit of a blessing to
- 37:01Speaker 5: have multiged, honestly, because this guy just continuously works at
- 37:04Speaker 5: at a rate that it's almost embarrassing Martino for some
- 37:07Speaker 5: of our younger players to have to watch a forty
- 37:11Speaker 5: year old end Listen. He could be forty, he could
- 37:13Speaker 5: be fifty, he could be twenty, and this guy.
- 37:15Speaker 6: Plays like he's you know anything, Like it's incredible, right,
- 37:19Speaker 6: Like the class, the elegance, the will to still fight
- 37:23Speaker 6: at that age, you know, it's it's incredible.
- 37:26Speaker 5: But some of these younger players, and I'm hoped, like
- 37:29Speaker 5: mean person, I'm hopeful for Ricci, like I want to
- 37:31Speaker 5: see him continue to grow just as you know obviously
- 37:34Speaker 5: being an Italian and it's you want to see him
- 37:36Speaker 5: do well. But the biggest thing for us, like we
- 37:40Speaker 5: can potentially because before this last little bit, like we
- 37:44Speaker 5: were pretty solid defensively, Like I thought, like wow, like
- 37:47Speaker 5: you know, Lager came in. He really emphasized defensively and
- 37:50Speaker 5: like because the last what two seasons, I think we
- 37:53Speaker 5: had like record goals against, Like it was like absolutely
- 37:56Speaker 5: absurd the.
- 37:57Speaker 4: Amount of goals we were leaking. And mind you that
- 38:01Speaker 4: year we had one of the better defenses.
- 38:03Speaker 3: And what happened it was only good in like the
- 38:06Speaker 3: final few weeks. They were like kind of inconsistent.
- 38:08Speaker 4: But they were at the top if I'm not mistaken,
- 38:11Speaker 4: Yeah yeah.
- 38:12Speaker 3: There from like March until the end of the season,
- 38:16Speaker 3: they weren't. It was Coolulu and too more he just
- 38:18Speaker 3: like playing like yeah, it's just difficult to penetrate them.
- 38:21Speaker 3: But that was midfield protection too. It was like Tonali
- 38:25Speaker 3: Benissett and that was balance. Milan didn't have that balance.
- 38:30Speaker 3: This is a better midfield. But again, like when you
- 38:32Speaker 3: lose Rabbio, Rabyo arguably been an MVP for the team,
- 38:39Speaker 3: playing pretty well prior sorry, Milan like a little inconsistent
- 38:44Speaker 3: those two games before he started comes in the start
- 38:48Speaker 3: you just see it. The coverage is everywhere. He's not
- 38:50Speaker 3: Cassie like like that, but just it's like the little things.
- 38:53Speaker 3: So super Yo wants to push up, he wants to create.
- 38:56Speaker 3: Rabbio's there, he's staying on the side. Modrich wants to
- 38:58Speaker 3: push up, create a little bit. Rabbio's covering. So yeah,
- 39:03Speaker 3: I mean, like it's it's I think meanla need to
- 39:05Speaker 3: get healthy. I think they are going to be really
- 39:08Speaker 3: difficult to defeat for a lot of teams, but they
- 39:10Speaker 3: got to be healthy to do it. And I swear
- 39:12Speaker 3: man like, if you can't be healthy in a year
- 39:14Speaker 3: in which you play once a week and then there's
- 39:16Speaker 3: no hope. Yeah, in general, screw I don't I don't
- 39:19Speaker 3: know how you can't like not stay healthy like this
- 39:21Speaker 3: is just it's infuriating. We'll see, uh, you know, Rabbio
- 39:24Speaker 3: and Polistic could be back soon. I know Yahhadi is
- 39:27Speaker 3: back in training this so there's some hope on the horizon. Horizon,
- 39:31Speaker 3: We'll see what happens, uh Sunday against Roma because it
- 39:34Speaker 3: kind of looks like I'm not sure if I'm jumping
- 39:36Speaker 3: the gun here, Johnny, but like if if we were
- 39:39Speaker 3: to even pull out a result against Roma, I think
- 39:41Speaker 3: it's a win. Considering how we've been playing, the absences
- 39:44Speaker 3: that we have and where Roma have been. I think
- 39:47Speaker 3: a draw like I like, I would actually welcome that
- 39:50Speaker 3: because it's it's been that difficult for the club.
- 39:54Speaker 4: No, I need we need to win, you know, we
- 39:56Speaker 4: need it. There's no extrame.
- 39:57Speaker 3: I listen, win every game.
- 40:00Speaker 5: No, no, But regardless of what it is we need,
- 40:03Speaker 5: we need to win because honestly, in my opinion, it's
- 40:05Speaker 5: it's it's an early season.
- 40:06Speaker 4: Make you know, make or break a game like.
- 40:09Speaker 5: We've got to We've got to know a win against
- 40:12Speaker 5: Napoly and we're talking about you know, direct competitors, right
- 40:14Speaker 5: like we haven't played inter yet. Coming to twenty third
- 40:16Speaker 5: of November, we got four points out of a possible
- 40:21Speaker 5: six between Inter between Sorry, Napoly and Juve, which arguably,
- 40:27Speaker 5: like I said earlier, I think should have been six
- 40:28Speaker 5: out of six.
- 40:29Speaker 4: But that's just my bias opinion. You can call it
- 40:31Speaker 4: what it is.
- 40:33Speaker 5: I think Sunday, for me personally, it's it's it's a
- 40:35Speaker 5: must win, especially yeah, because it burns me the way
- 40:39Speaker 5: that we we lost points against Pisa and I'm sorry,
- 40:43Speaker 5: you know, even yesterday.
- 40:47Speaker 4: I mean, lookman, okay, you know what. I put my
- 40:49Speaker 4: hands up. He's he's a great, great player.
- 40:52Speaker 3: I don't know.
- 40:53Speaker 4: I saw a FO final literally walking in the box.
- 40:56Speaker 3: Literally had nothing. They had nothing for fun. I hit
- 40:59Speaker 3: it well. I mean it's sorry, lookman, hit it well,
- 41:01Speaker 3: like you're alluding to that. Lelon allowed that, Yeah, has nothing?
- 41:05Speaker 3: What did look been doing that besides like ship they
- 41:08Speaker 3: didn't notice?
- 41:08Speaker 4: Yeah, you know obviously Okay, it's a great shot.
- 41:11Speaker 5: You know, he he beats he beats Manana on the
- 41:14Speaker 5: you know, from a short from a short angle there
- 41:16Speaker 5: but a tight angle. But it's I don't know, like
- 41:20Speaker 5: arguably that could have been a win or you know,
- 41:22Speaker 5: so you know again to my point earlier, like these
- 41:25Speaker 5: little mistakes is what costs us things like that and
- 41:28Speaker 5: that for me in turn, puts Sunday's match against Roma
- 41:32Speaker 5: as a must win. It's it has to be like
- 41:35Speaker 5: I wouldn't like a draw. Okay, you don't know, We'll
- 41:37Speaker 5: take the draw, fine, but I don't know. For me,
- 41:40Speaker 5: it's it's a it's a must win. We have to
- 41:42Speaker 5: go into the Uh guess.
- 41:44Speaker 4: Who do we have after Roma?
- 41:45Speaker 7: Is it the international break where we have another team,
- 41:48Speaker 7: so we have to go into the international break, you
- 41:50Speaker 7: know Martino two two from.
- 41:51Speaker 3: Two and six, and I think Parma is away, so
- 41:56Speaker 3: I agree. Listen, don't get me wrong. Your goals, like
- 41:59Speaker 3: what we what we should expect. Yeah, most of the time,
- 42:02Speaker 3: I really just talk about what I think will be happening,
- 42:06Speaker 3: just in general, you know what I mean, Like you
- 42:08Speaker 3: know the stuff we do. Like for me, it's like,
- 42:11Speaker 3: I'm pissed, bro if you don't get three points against
- 42:14Speaker 3: the side that I think we should beat, or like
- 42:16Speaker 3: if we're at home juve a like listen. Sometimes will
- 42:19Speaker 3: be like, all right, I took a breath result the
- 42:22Speaker 3: way to you a worst thing in the world, and
- 42:23Speaker 3: then I see polistic fucking send it to Mars. I'm like,
- 42:28Speaker 3: you know, like that that pisces me off man, and
- 42:31Speaker 3: it's like that shouldn't happen because I still replay games
- 42:36Speaker 3: from years ago, that like over ten years ago that
- 42:39Speaker 3: you're like, are you serious? Like you gotta get over that.
- 42:41Speaker 3: I'm like, no, like this annoying. It's annoying because I'm
- 42:46Speaker 3: not trying to bring up the show right now. But
- 42:49Speaker 3: every time I'm watching Milan and I got to see
- 42:52Speaker 3: a lot when I was a kid. But it really
- 42:54Speaker 3: is like the Sopranos opening line about I got in
- 43:00Speaker 3: at the end when the good days were over. When
- 43:04Speaker 3: I like, when I'm fully able to watch all these
- 43:06Speaker 3: matches week in, week out and fully consciously remember Melan
- 43:10Speaker 3: Bro that was at the back end of that era,
- 43:12Speaker 3: Like I like when I'm allowed to watch everything as
- 43:16Speaker 3: like late teens, like I was twelve when they won
- 43:18Speaker 3: the Champions League, Like yeah, sure I remember everything, like
- 43:20Speaker 3: it's great, but like it's like week in week out,
- 43:23Speaker 3: what are they what are these guys saying? What are
- 43:25Speaker 3: the newspapers saying? Like you're fully invested. You know, it's
- 43:28Speaker 3: a completely different fandom, and it's just it irritates the
- 43:32Speaker 3: hell enemy because so rise of social media, we suck
- 43:36Speaker 3: everybody over here. I'm not sure what Canada is like.
- 43:39Speaker 3: You guys have like a lot more like SETIAV fans,
- 43:42Speaker 3: I think in general than what we got over here.
- 43:44Speaker 3: Like I'm walking down the street, like there's a guy
- 43:47Speaker 3: in like a PSG.
- 43:47Speaker 1: Can No, it's it's it's frustrating.
- 43:51Speaker 3: It's so it's so annoying. There's no disrespect or anything
- 43:54Speaker 3: like that, No, but it's just like so back in
- 43:57Speaker 3: my day, bro, like you have you know, it's.
- 43:59Speaker 2: Funny say that, so like because I because like in
- 44:03Speaker 2: the high schools, right, so I remember because like I'm
- 44:05Speaker 2: not too too much older than you and Martino, I'm
- 44:07Speaker 2: thirty three, right like, so I've like so like I've seen,
- 44:11Speaker 2: like I know exactly the era of Melan you're talking about.
- 44:14Speaker 2: And I remember going to school and on dress down days,
- 44:17Speaker 2: you know, people like instead of wearing school uniform, a
- 44:20Speaker 2: lot of people wear soccer jerseys. And like the amount
- 44:23Speaker 2: of Mealan jerseys you would see entering you bit like
- 44:26Speaker 2: the Big Three you would see, right, I was the
- 44:28Speaker 2: one weird o kid in the old the Roma jerseys
- 44:30Speaker 2: that I had, but just for jokes. But but the
- 44:35Speaker 2: amount of Melan jerseys, especially when they wanted O seven,
- 44:38Speaker 2: right when they wanted O seven, Like the first dress
- 44:40Speaker 2: down day that occurred, Minka, the whole fucking school was
- 44:43Speaker 2: almost like lit up in Melan jerseys.
- 44:45Speaker 1: Nowadays, the kids wear dress down.
- 44:47Speaker 2: Dress down days if they weren't soccer jerseys, PSG, bar Real, Liverpool,
- 44:53Speaker 2: like it's all these like yeah, they're all Champions League clubs,
- 44:56Speaker 2: but it's all like it seems so like I don't
- 45:00Speaker 2: explain it like the players are they're not wearing the
- 45:03Speaker 2: jerseys for the team.
- 45:05Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
- 45:06Speaker 3: Yeah, well yeah, it's a it's a players world now, yeah,
- 45:10Speaker 3: you know it's anymore. It's players have more followers than
- 45:14Speaker 3: like clubs do and like you know, like it's you know,
- 45:16Speaker 3: like me, Milan is like loaded with with players. But
- 45:20Speaker 3: what gets like certain people like interested for me, Like
- 45:23Speaker 3: you know, it's like when you're watching Sadia, like I'm
- 45:26Speaker 3: not sure how they would broadcast it over there. They
- 45:28Speaker 3: would have the big games over here, right, and like yeah,
- 45:31Speaker 3: it kind of was more difficult to watch like some
- 45:33Speaker 3: of the other teams, like when it's like the big teams,
- 45:35Speaker 3: Like you know, like Melan has everything, there's always like
- 45:37Speaker 3: something that draws you to a team. I don't know,
- 45:40Speaker 3: it's just always something about Melan and the color. Like
- 45:43Speaker 3: I was telling this the other day on the podcast
- 45:45Speaker 3: of my or I'm not sure if I said it
- 45:47Speaker 3: to Matt Honor off air, but my first kit that
- 45:49Speaker 3: I ever got and I never wore it was an
- 45:53Speaker 3: R nine inter Kid and it was just something like
- 45:56Speaker 3: you know, like, uh, the Green Goblins mask is like
- 46:00Speaker 3: talking to him whatever The opposite was with the inter kit.
- 46:04Speaker 3: Was like, I was like, I don't like that. Something
- 46:06Speaker 3: about it. I don't like it. And I had a
- 46:09Speaker 3: Tulki kit too, because obviously my whole family ro so
- 46:13Speaker 3: I'm just like, I don't like that either. And it
- 46:15Speaker 3: was just something about like melon all the time, and it's.
- 46:18Speaker 1: It's so nice.
- 46:19Speaker 3: It is it is, but it's just I don't know,
- 46:21Speaker 3: there's just Andreana. I'm not sure what did it for you,
- 46:24Speaker 3: but like there's sometimes it just sucks you in and
- 46:27Speaker 3: sometimes you make a good choice like I did. Or
- 46:29Speaker 3: you could be a Jets fan, which you also are.
- 46:33Speaker 3: And my father is a Steelers fan, and he the
- 46:38Speaker 3: Jets were playing the Steelers in the playoffs. This was
- 46:40Speaker 3: not the one in high school the Doug O'Brien missed
- 46:44Speaker 3: like three or four kicks. I was like, I like
- 46:45Speaker 3: the Jets. He's like, don't pick the Jets. Like there,
- 46:47Speaker 3: this is what happens.
- 46:48Speaker 4: I was, no, I like that.
- 46:51Speaker 3: Part of it. Part of it is because Curtis Martin Martino.
- 46:54Speaker 3: It's the same reason why I like the Devils because
- 46:57Speaker 3: of Martin Bordor. That's it. They're not good seasons. But
- 47:01Speaker 3: it just like you know, like you get drawn in
- 47:02Speaker 3: and suck to something and I don't know, I'm rambling
- 47:06Speaker 3: at this point, but it's.
- 47:06Speaker 4: Just at least you have the Celtics.
- 47:08Speaker 1: At least you have the Celtics.
- 47:09Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, yeah, I mean, listen, I'm not complaining.
- 47:12Speaker 3: I have much better sports fandom than most people. It's
- 47:16Speaker 3: just the two teams I probably care about most are sucked.
- 47:19Speaker 3: They suck Melan, Like a lot of people don't know
- 47:21Speaker 3: Melans like third in the pecking order. For me, I
- 47:23Speaker 3: just don't tweet about like the other teams. You know,
- 47:27Speaker 3: Melan is great, and it's also like sort of I'm
- 47:30Speaker 3: not sure if you guys. I know you guys like
- 47:32Speaker 3: other sports teams, but when you see the one team
- 47:35Speaker 3: that always wins and had so much success, like I
- 47:37Speaker 3: could wait on Melan, Like I'm pissed. I don't want
- 47:40Speaker 3: to wait, but like I could wait, Like if you
- 47:41Speaker 3: told me if I had a choice of Like, men,
- 47:44Speaker 3: what really want Listen? I am in a household full
- 47:47Speaker 3: of Yankees fans. Like it's literally like if you grow
- 47:51Speaker 3: up in a family full of human tini and you're
- 47:54Speaker 3: just a Monopoly fan or a Lazio fan or you know,
- 47:57Speaker 3: or literally Torino. You could say Torino in the city
- 48:01Speaker 3: and they're just nothing in comparison, Like you're just rooting
- 48:05Speaker 3: for that. Like to me, that's just like the trials
- 48:08Speaker 3: and tribute. That's why, like the nineteenth title was so
- 48:11Speaker 3: sweet because you waited so long. It was so brutal.
- 48:14Speaker 3: It was way better than twenty ten to eleven because
- 48:17Speaker 3: it felt like twenty ten eleven was like a standard.
- 48:19Speaker 3: It was like this is what it should be.
- 48:20Speaker 4: Mean went for the banter Martino. We went through that
- 48:23Speaker 4: banter ten years. It was ten long years, my friend.
- 48:26Speaker 2: That was a very and I guess I got clipped
- 48:29Speaker 2: by like feature the FIFA fair play.
- 48:30Speaker 1: I think it wasn't was it twenty sixteen, twenty seven?
- 48:33Speaker 3: I don't even want to remember twenty seventeen the clock
- 48:38Speaker 3: started because they made it back into the Europe And
- 48:40Speaker 3: then that's why like Como really HASNAD issues because they
- 48:43Speaker 3: haven't qualified for European competition yet there's whole bullshit system.
- 48:46Speaker 4: Yeah, I also have crazy money too, right, So but.
- 48:50Speaker 3: What was that? What was the last question was that
- 48:52Speaker 3: the last question?
- 48:53Speaker 2: No, no, no, My last question was essentially about like
- 48:57Speaker 2: we we're talking about the finances and Cardinale's recent comments
- 48:59Speaker 2: is stuff and talking about basically you know, shitting on
- 49:03Speaker 2: like Lecha and Katyadi when you know Lecha has come oda.
- 49:07Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like, it's just it's just
- 49:10Speaker 1: it's just an idiot.
- 49:12Speaker 3: It was the quotes are you know, Like I listened
- 49:18Speaker 3: to the podcast because I was like, oh, you know,
- 49:20Speaker 3: like oh they're they're like, uh, they're all over the
- 49:23Speaker 3: place like with this, Like cardinal is actually like defending
- 49:26Speaker 3: what Cardidianale was essentially saying, right, he's talking. He's talking
- 49:29Speaker 3: to when Cardinali speaks publicly, aside from like the podcast
- 49:33Speaker 3: where we had cush on and cush spoke to one
- 49:36Speaker 3: on one, when Jerry makes comments publicly, he does a
- 49:39Speaker 3: lot of business conferences and like stuff of like, hey Jerry,
- 49:43Speaker 3: how's Italian football been for you? Are you doing well?
- 49:46Speaker 3: Is it? Is it? He he admits to it like
- 49:48Speaker 3: on how like he messed up pr wise and all
- 49:51Speaker 3: these kind of things. So I'll give him some credit
- 49:53Speaker 3: his way for that. Essentially, what he was saying was,
- 49:56Speaker 3: you know they're competing against the Premier everybody's competing. He's
- 50:00Speaker 3: the Premier League, right, That's why the Super league was
- 50:02Speaker 3: created because financially to bridge the gap, you have to
- 50:04Speaker 3: do that in UEFA's withholding all these money from clubs
- 50:07Speaker 3: because they basically get fifty percent of the revenue. But
- 50:09Speaker 3: what do they do, basically nothing but slap their name
- 50:12Speaker 3: on the front of the stuff. But his point was,
- 50:15Speaker 3: you know, we have a very competitive league in Setia
- 50:19Speaker 3: where twentieth place can be first place, like you give
- 50:21Speaker 3: the example of Milan can lose to Visa. It really
- 50:24Speaker 3: just happened. But he recorded that earlier and he was
- 50:28Speaker 3: just essentially talking about, you know, distributors only want the best.
- 50:32Speaker 3: So when you hear that, you're like, okay, distributors meaning
- 50:35Speaker 3: the media companies who buy the rights for these leagues, Okay, Paramount, Dozone,
- 50:41Speaker 3: whatever you watch over here in the Americas. And he
- 50:45Speaker 3: basically was saying, like Kadi Delech, like that's pretty good,
- 50:49Speaker 3: like a matchup is essentially what he was saying. But
- 50:51Speaker 3: when he is speaking from the perspective of the distributors,
- 50:56Speaker 3: he's saying the distributors are saying this is not a
- 50:58Speaker 3: good product. And when he uses them as an example,
- 51:02Speaker 3: you're essentially taking shots at those two clubs. For me,
- 51:06Speaker 3: I think that's how it comes across. And people are
- 51:08Speaker 3: telling me and they disagreed. They said my interpretation of
- 51:12Speaker 3: it was off and they disagree with it. But when
- 51:15Speaker 3: you listen to those sort of things, Jerry doesn't have
- 51:18Speaker 3: to list two teams specifically. He could say a matchup
- 51:21Speaker 3: in Italy. He specifically chose two lesser sides that very
- 51:25Speaker 3: clearly don't have interests globally and especially over here in
- 51:30Speaker 3: the States in Canada. And you think to yourself, well,
- 51:34Speaker 3: he's basically almost in an indirect way, agreeing with the distributors,
- 51:39Speaker 3: saying like this isn't fair, Like I get it. And
- 51:43Speaker 3: again he kind of contradicts himself to in this interview
- 51:46Speaker 3: because he's like, I love what PSG have done. And well,
- 51:50Speaker 3: first he ventures to say, I should have never called
- 51:52Speaker 3: myself Berlisconi two point zero because what Mosconi did in
- 51:56Speaker 3: the eighties and the nineties and basically his entire tenure
- 51:59Speaker 3: at me the end, he was god. He was God. Berlusconi.
- 52:05Speaker 3: He really did change a lot of what happened in
- 52:08Speaker 3: modern football and spending. There was no denying yet. Yeah,
- 52:11Speaker 3: but like in George Steinbern ever, the Yankees, the Yankees
- 52:14Speaker 3: would buy everyone for anyone who doesn't know. So, like
- 52:17Speaker 3: when he's saying, he's like, yeah, that's just irrepeatable. You
- 52:20Speaker 3: can't do it. You have to go up against state
- 52:22Speaker 3: owned teams like all these like olive archs, all this
- 52:25Speaker 3: sort of stuff. So he's like, I know, that's impossible,
- 52:27Speaker 3: and then he goes on to proceed to give a
- 52:29Speaker 3: PSG their flowers. He's like, they're carrying their weight in Lagun.
- 52:32Speaker 3: Everyone else can't do their job. Why do you think
- 52:34Speaker 3: they're carrying their weight? Because they get away with everything.
- 52:37Speaker 3: They spend more money than God. They didn't have any
- 52:40Speaker 3: money when they first came up, Like financial fair play
- 52:43Speaker 3: gets introduced. Who gets screwed? Inter Milan gets screwed? Right
- 52:46Speaker 3: when that first happens. Who gets away with it? City
- 52:48Speaker 3: can spend all the money they want to spend all
- 52:50Speaker 3: the money. Yeah, people make the arguments of like these
- 52:53Speaker 3: leagues have no money. What money does LEGUN have. They
- 52:56Speaker 3: sold it to a delivery driving service industry. They sold
- 53:01Speaker 3: the Uber Eatsley McDonald's lee whatever they call it. They
- 53:04Speaker 3: don't have money either, But somehow, some way, PSG, who
- 53:07Speaker 3: never had that strong of the fan base. The club
- 53:09Speaker 3: was created in the seventies my father is older than
- 53:12Speaker 3: the club. That's insane. Somehow they have this huge base
- 53:16Speaker 3: worldwide globally, they could spend all this money and we
- 53:20Speaker 3: knew they were lying about it because of whose sponsors though,
- 53:23Speaker 3: where the money is coming from. And we have to
- 53:25Speaker 3: sit there seeing how big Milan are, how big Into are,
- 53:31Speaker 3: and they can't spend money the second that there's like
- 53:33Speaker 3: a slip up in the financials. Unless I'm not saying
- 53:36Speaker 3: Melan shouldn't have been punished, but I'm saying, where are
- 53:38Speaker 3: the rules in the consistency? And I just think when
- 53:42Speaker 3: the owner makes comments like that, it's just irritated because
- 53:46Speaker 3: it's it's just tone deaf to me. He understands business
- 53:50Speaker 3: very well, but like it just you have to understand
- 53:53Speaker 3: the beast that you're getting into. And he was essentially saying, like, Sadie,
- 53:56Speaker 3: I needs more help. We have a good product to
- 53:59Speaker 3: a degree, and he's essentially saying, like, you know, we
- 54:03Speaker 3: need to sell better to distributors or distributors need to
- 54:06Speaker 3: understand what the product is, and like it's hold back
- 54:09Speaker 3: and forth and and and Funnily enough, Fredbird was one
- 54:12Speaker 3: of the companies that helped invest by Paramount and who
- 54:15Speaker 3: owns and who does paramount have the rights to.
- 54:20Speaker 4: Our great league.
- 54:22Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's just just one last little thing
- 54:25Speaker 2: down to your comments. I feel like as if it's
- 54:27Speaker 2: it seems like financial fair play, which is kind of
- 54:30Speaker 2: sense to like MEECAP basically Italian culture like sea because
- 54:35Speaker 2: it's like it's just Citia for a while was dominating
- 54:39Speaker 2: just international competition, was dominating the world of football. Then
- 54:43Speaker 2: Real Madrid comes along to make a loctical send. You know,
- 54:45Speaker 2: they they start competing as well, but like even like
- 54:49Speaker 2: you know, well's ag but even but but but even
- 54:56Speaker 2: like like La Liga wasn't overall's league fighting with.
- 55:03Speaker 1: You know, like it was like you had reality, you
- 55:06Speaker 1: had Barsa.
- 55:07Speaker 3: And then nobody that there's in a more difficult country
- 55:10Speaker 3: to deal with bureaucracy.
- 55:12Speaker 4: Italy.
- 55:15Speaker 2: Recapping themselves and FIFA's decappying them.
- 55:18Speaker 3: Yeah, it's yeah, they're getting It's like one of those
- 55:21Speaker 3: scenes where what was that show a movie where they
- 55:25Speaker 3: may like make fun of the guy where he's beating
- 55:27Speaker 3: himself up. It's like a ghost is hitting him. That's
- 55:30Speaker 3: like what SERI is like dust to themselves. Italy is
- 55:32Speaker 3: such a stupid country, like flat out I'm sorry, it's.
- 55:35Speaker 4: Just right, but you're not wrong.
- 55:39Speaker 3: On their international team, the three of us exist because
- 55:42Speaker 3: that country is stupid, right, Like, don't meet each other.
- 55:45Speaker 3: If they didn't have to move, they're moronic there. And
- 55:50Speaker 3: I and I say this to people all the time,
- 55:52Speaker 3: and I'll kind of make it a final note because
- 55:53Speaker 3: I've even gone over what I'm going to do. Uh,
- 55:56Speaker 3: put it this way. If you walk down the street
- 55:59Speaker 3: in Rome and you see a fucking rock on the
- 56:01Speaker 3: side of the road, they'll tell you they can't move
- 56:03Speaker 3: that rock if it if it like would help the
- 56:06Speaker 3: local cities, if this rock was preventing a fire, right,
- 56:11Speaker 3: not preventing a fire, aiding a fire. Right, you can't
- 56:14Speaker 3: get to a fire hydrant because there's rocks in the road.
- 56:16Speaker 3: But this rock is from ancient Rome, and they can't
- 56:18Speaker 3: get rid of it because it's a part of their
- 56:20Speaker 3: illustrious history thousands of years ago for people who have
- 56:23Speaker 3: been dead forever. Okay, put it in a fucking museum. Enough.
- 56:27Speaker 3: Everywhere they talk about like Milan gotta go building sand Nata, Oh,
- 56:31Speaker 3: you can't because there's trees here that matter. So just
- 56:33Speaker 3: when do you give a shit, No, No, you're the
- 56:35Speaker 3: only person who's speaking on this. You're eighty five years old.
- 56:39Speaker 3: How is it possible that we're in a country that
- 56:41Speaker 3: everyone deems that the stadiums are behind where we're lucky.
- 56:45Speaker 3: The only reason Milan and interrogetting the stadium is because
- 56:48Speaker 3: they lost the Champions League final. They're threatening to take
- 56:51Speaker 3: away Milan as a city in the twenty thirty two
- 56:54Speaker 3: Europe because guess what, they're not up to code, They're antiquated.
- 56:59Speaker 3: Everything that they do is behind. And it is so
- 57:03Speaker 3: ironic to me because it's a country forget about, like
- 57:06Speaker 3: the Roman Empire and all that shit. What about the
- 57:08Speaker 3: Renaissance when you literally realized you had to change your
- 57:12Speaker 3: ways because things weren't what they were. And Italy is
- 57:16Speaker 3: just stuck in the past. And I think part of
- 57:20Speaker 3: it is that they're stuck in the past. And I
- 57:21Speaker 3: also think there's a lot of very corrupt and shitty
- 57:23Speaker 3: people in charge that are preventing things from getting done
- 57:27Speaker 3: because we know what the influence is over there. It's
- 57:30Speaker 3: it's poverty in certain areas where my mother is originally from,
- 57:34Speaker 3: Like you can't live there in Calabria, Like it is
- 57:38Speaker 3: impossible to like do we understand that no, No, I
- 57:42Speaker 3: my stepdad. I know you guys don't know.
- 57:44Speaker 2: No, But like no, that's a very solid point you make,
- 57:47Speaker 2: because like I have friends that live here in Montreal now,
- 57:49Speaker 2: but they're like people our agent nearly twenties eight threes
- 57:52Speaker 2: from Italy. Like I have Italians moving here to Canada,
- 57:56Speaker 2: like our generation. This is not just we're not talking
- 57:58Speaker 2: about our grandparents or our parents anymore. Like this is
- 58:00Speaker 2: our generation that they're moving from Italy to Canada because
- 58:03Speaker 2: they can't even have a life there anymore. Like like
- 58:06Speaker 2: it's not because if these guys are doing construction jobs
- 58:08Speaker 2: or whatever. Like one guy is a lawyer. Another one's father,
- 58:11Speaker 2: Like the father is a CEO of some kind of
- 58:14Speaker 2: like athletics company type of thing. I don't know the
- 58:17Speaker 2: details of that, but like it's so like like like
- 58:20Speaker 2: his his girlfriend has a like some a bachelor's degree
- 58:25Speaker 2: in something.
- 58:25Speaker 1: These are educated people.
- 58:26Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's rare. There's a little bit more rare
- 58:28Speaker 3: in Italy.
- 58:29Speaker 2: My cousin's husband, right, my cousin in Toronto. Her husband's
- 58:32Speaker 2: from Milan itself. He's from This man's got a science
- 58:36Speaker 2: you know, like a university degree in chemistry. Like he
- 58:38Speaker 2: couldn't find work and stuff in his field. This guy
- 58:41Speaker 2: is and what he's doing. He's working construction in Toronto
- 58:44Speaker 2: and he's making more bank making construction in Toronto than
- 58:47Speaker 2: when he then being like having.
- 58:49Speaker 1: A university level position in the week. That's ridiculous.
- 58:52Speaker 3: Even rent in Milan is is like crazy because when
- 58:55Speaker 3: I went there for the first time, I live for
- 58:57Speaker 3: perspective for some people, I lived a little bit north
- 58:59Speaker 3: of New York City, very like wealthier area of the world. Right,
- 59:03Speaker 3: Like we know what New York is. New York is
- 59:05Speaker 3: a bitch to afford to live in. It's really different. Okay,
- 59:09Speaker 3: Milan had rent on part with that, and I was like,
- 59:12Speaker 3: what are we talking about, Like, no, no disrespect to
- 59:15Speaker 3: that city. That does not the rent does is not
- 59:18Speaker 3: justified for that city to what you could, like, come on,
- 59:22Speaker 3: come on there it is. There's a bunch of crooks
- 59:25Speaker 3: running that country. And every time we hear a court
- 59:28Speaker 3: case or the proceedings, like all the appeal processes for
- 59:32Speaker 3: San Seertro that they have to cook through just to
- 59:35Speaker 3: okay it. Even though the mayor finally does a one
- 59:38Speaker 3: to eighty out of nowhere. Giseppa Sala's like yeah, honestly, yeah,
- 59:42Speaker 3: let's get this done and they do it immediately. It's
- 59:45Speaker 3: just it's just like you know, you know what you
- 59:47Speaker 3: were doing, you knew what you were doing, and it's
- 59:51Speaker 3: just shitty. And it's the clubs get impacted by it
- 59:54Speaker 3: and we're saying, how how much did you benefit from it?
- 59:58Speaker 3: And good for them that they had their own citium,
- 1:00:00Speaker 3: it was everything. It was exponential growth.
- 1:00:03Speaker 2: The Atalanta's the way they are today because they own
- 1:00:07Speaker 2: their own stadium.
- 1:00:09Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, I mean they they did it. They
- 1:00:11Speaker 3: did it the long and hard way and like the
- 1:00:13Speaker 3: way that like football wants it to be done, like
- 1:00:15Speaker 3: all that kind of stuff. You know, like it's it's
- 1:00:18Speaker 3: it's just infuriating because you know, like the era in
- 1:00:21Speaker 3: which these clubs got so popular and this is like
- 1:00:24Speaker 3: final point because again when these clubs all got popular.
- 1:00:27Speaker 3: I talked to CVP about this all the time and
- 1:00:30Speaker 3: other people that I kind of work with in culture
- 1:00:32Speaker 3: and the content area, and you guys do it too,
- 1:00:35Speaker 3: you know. The number like my highest few videos are
- 1:00:38Speaker 3: talking about like Malik Chaw and like his tenure at
- 1:00:41Speaker 3: Newcastle right now, Why because the Premier League dominates and
- 1:00:45Speaker 3: the era in which Milan inter and Setiyov started sucking.
- 1:00:48Speaker 3: Was when everything took off socially, and we're sitting here
- 1:00:51Speaker 3: still struggling stadium built. It's insane, it's it's stupid, and
- 1:00:58Speaker 3: we're just shooting ourselves in foot hoping it changes. And
- 1:01:02Speaker 3: they just don't get it. They just don't get it.
- 1:01:04Speaker 3: Same stupid people in charge, same people with And it's
- 1:01:07Speaker 3: not even just FIGC, it's it's the it's the local governments,
- 1:01:12Speaker 3: the municipalities, the bureaucrats, like monopoly, even struggle to build something.
- 1:01:17Speaker 3: There's and you know what's funnier over in Europe, the
- 1:01:20Speaker 3: owners fund this ship. In I don't know, I'm not
- 1:01:23Speaker 3: sure about Canada. But like when there's something to be
- 1:01:26Speaker 3: built over here in the States, the public pays for it.
- 1:01:28Speaker 3: It's tax payer money that goes for right, So like
- 1:01:31Speaker 3: that is technically more difficult. These guys are like, no,
- 1:01:34Speaker 3: you got nothing out of your pocket will fund it?
- 1:01:36Speaker 3: And they're still like no, it makes sense. What else
- 1:01:41Speaker 3: do I have to say? There's something obviously fishing with them.
- 1:01:47Speaker 5: General Martino, I think, uh, I didn't know we were
- 1:01:50Speaker 5: gonna go this these lengths.
- 1:01:54Speaker 2: I mean I knew because we like I knew that,
- 1:01:56Speaker 2: but like not that I don't hate it, No.
- 1:01:58Speaker 3: I would.
- 1:02:01Speaker 5: And listen, Martino, I know we can continue on this
- 1:02:03Speaker 5: path for for many more hours and uh and many
- 1:02:06Speaker 5: more days.
- 1:02:07Speaker 1: Uh.
- 1:02:07Speaker 4: Listen, we really do appreciate your time.
- 1:02:10Speaker 5: I know we try to make this happen, you know,
- 1:02:12Speaker 5: behind the behind the scenes, it's always it's always difficult
- 1:02:15Speaker 5: to try to find a time and a place, but
- 1:02:18Speaker 5: were tonight. We managed to do it tonight. So again,
- 1:02:22Speaker 5: we really do appreciate your time. Me and Jenny will
- 1:02:24Speaker 5: probably still stick on maybe to talk to some said after,
- 1:02:27Speaker 5: but just before to leave on a bit more.
- 1:02:30Speaker 4: Of a positive note Martino.
- 1:02:31Speaker 5: Uh, again, just for anybody that is I guess when
- 1:02:34Speaker 5: you living under a rock or who wants to be
- 1:02:37Speaker 5: anti Milan. You do some great work you and you
- 1:02:41Speaker 5: and Matt with with your show. If just plug away,
- 1:02:44Speaker 5: my friend, all the socials and anything you want to plug.
- 1:02:47Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks for the com word. I always love you
- 1:02:50Speaker 3: guys and all the work that you put in. A
- 1:02:51Speaker 3: lot of people UH kind of don't understand it, like
- 1:02:54Speaker 3: because I know what you guys do, like this isn't
- 1:02:56Speaker 3: you know. I'm in the media industry, so it's a
- 1:02:58Speaker 3: little bit easier to kind of like be flexible in
- 1:03:00Speaker 3: my time. Like I see you guys putting up ship
- 1:03:02Speaker 3: every week and SETI on matchley, who's gonna win? Who's
- 1:03:05Speaker 3: the polls? Like, it's a lot of work. So like
- 1:03:08Speaker 3: I always great. Yeah, I know, I know he does, yeah,
- 1:03:11Speaker 3: because he is he is the big graphics guy, so
- 1:03:14Speaker 3: I know that.
- 1:03:15Speaker 5: So like you guys, Nick too, I got I gotta
- 1:03:16Speaker 5: shut out Nick for at least the posting something and whatever.
- 1:03:19Speaker 4: But we appreciate the kind words of course.
- 1:03:22Speaker 3: But like you guys are all great, and you know,
- 1:03:24Speaker 3: it's just it's just good stuff. It's like, uh, it's
- 1:03:27Speaker 3: difficult because you don't have like a lot of Italian
- 1:03:29Speaker 3: Americans that are super interested in like it's stuff because
- 1:03:33Speaker 3: it's different. It's a different they're different people, and you
- 1:03:36Speaker 3: guys see it on the internet, so like it. There's
- 1:03:38Speaker 3: always great to like chat with people like you guys,
- 1:03:40Speaker 3: and it's just always a lot of fun. So I
- 1:03:41Speaker 3: appreciate the support and the kind words. As far as
- 1:03:44Speaker 3: the other stuff go, if you do enjoy meal on
- 1:03:46Speaker 3: content and just listening to more of that stuff. Specifically,
- 1:03:50Speaker 3: that Melan podcast is what our name is. It's one
- 1:03:54Speaker 3: of the worst names possible because I'm not very creative
- 1:03:57Speaker 3: like that. But again, the YouTube channel is just my
- 1:03:59Speaker 3: name at Martin, you know, Puccio also Spotify, Apple, we
- 1:04:02Speaker 3: have the social media accounts where we post all the time,
- 1:04:05Speaker 3: all the short form videos and stuff like that. I'm
- 1:04:07Speaker 3: sure you'll see the clips from this episode there when
- 1:04:10Speaker 3: they're done, So yeah, I appreciate it. Uh, We'll have
- 1:04:14Speaker 3: to get you guys on soon. I'm just yeah, I
- 1:04:16Speaker 3: have more time now to finally like talk to people normally.
- 1:04:21Speaker 1: You know, I think you need it too, Like I
- 1:04:23Speaker 1: think you need to, like I.
- 1:04:25Speaker 3: Like, I just a lot of people just didn't understand
- 1:04:27Speaker 3: the job I had previously. It was awful, like in
- 1:04:30Speaker 3: office ten hours a day, like on weekends, couldn't really
- 1:04:33Speaker 3: like watch games the way I wanted to. But now
- 1:04:35Speaker 3: I have more of that free time because I'm free.
- 1:04:38Speaker 3: So yeah, so again, you go check it out over there.
- 1:04:42Speaker 3: And Matt is one of the best co hosts and
- 1:04:45Speaker 3: friends that you could ask for, just like a stand
- 1:04:46Speaker 3: up guy. We've been basically doing this since crap, the
- 1:04:50Speaker 3: Chinese takeover all those years ago.
- 1:04:52Speaker 4: It's already been that long.
- 1:04:53Speaker 3: Eh Yeah, yeah, exactly right, exactly so the grinds be real.
- 1:04:59Speaker 3: The grind has been real, So we appreciate all the
- 1:05:02Speaker 3: support because we don't stop. We keep that work right.
- 1:05:05Speaker 3: It's easy when GOTUSO is your idol, one of your idols,
- 1:05:08Speaker 3: to just see that guy. It's like an engine energize
- 1:05:11Speaker 3: the bunny psychopath. Yeah, easy to do. But again, thank
- 1:05:14Speaker 3: you guys so much. Guys, and I went twice the
- 1:05:16Speaker 3: time that I said I was able to.
- 1:05:18Speaker 5: This is for me, just just for I know that
- 1:05:20Speaker 5: we knew, but just for that again, Martina, we appreciate it. Again,
- 1:05:24Speaker 5: anybody who's listening, definitely give these guys a follow, you know,
- 1:05:28Speaker 5: even if you'll definite probably see them on on Instagram reels.
- 1:05:31Speaker 4: Uh, Martino, I got a credit to bro.
- 1:05:33Speaker 5: You come on every every time after the result your opinion.
- 1:05:38Speaker 4: Uh, those clips go go out right away.
- 1:05:41Speaker 3: Uh.
- 1:05:41Speaker 5: You guys are really on the ball. So again I
- 1:05:44Speaker 5: guess that's because of your free time. Now that now
- 1:05:46Speaker 5: that we know this.
- 1:05:47Speaker 3: I would go find a place at work and like
- 1:05:50Speaker 3: go find like an enclosed sound place to just do
- 1:05:54Speaker 3: the video. And I don't think anybody knew what I
- 1:05:56Speaker 3: was doing. I mean just uh, because it sounds stupid
- 1:06:01Speaker 3: and The final thing I'll say is that, like, I
- 1:06:03Speaker 3: think it matters to consistently put out that work and
- 1:06:06Speaker 3: show that like people speak about Melan or just say
- 1:06:10Speaker 3: any Sariak clubs in English on a consistent basis, because
- 1:06:14Speaker 3: people do care these are This is one of the
- 1:06:17Speaker 3: greatest leagus in the world, and you know, I think
- 1:06:20Speaker 3: it deserves its flowers and you know, talking about it
- 1:06:23Speaker 3: as often as I can as something that I've always
- 1:06:24Speaker 3: wanted to do and continue to do because you never
- 1:06:27Speaker 3: know if you could turn someone into a fan that
- 1:06:29Speaker 3: has never tuned in before, because there's still a lot
- 1:06:32Speaker 3: of talent there and I still think that they could
- 1:06:34Speaker 3: write the ship if they stop being stupid. I've said
- 1:06:37Speaker 3: this for many years now, so I don't know if
- 1:06:39Speaker 3: it'll change, but I will never give up on Setia.
- 1:06:42Speaker 3: I think it is too historical and great and unique
- 1:06:46Speaker 3: of a league to be in the position that it's in.
- 1:06:48Speaker 3: I think there will be better days ahead. It just
- 1:06:51Speaker 3: depends when. So yeah, thank you guys so much again,
- 1:06:55Speaker 3: and anything else I could ever do, always tag me
- 1:06:58Speaker 3: in the stuff and yeah, you guys are great.
- 1:07:01Speaker 1: You're great too.
- 1:07:04Speaker 5: It's it's it's very much mutual and guys, go follow
- 1:07:08Speaker 5: them that meal On podcast Martino personally, Matt personally as well.
- 1:07:13Speaker 4: Again, I mean, even if you're not a Mealon fan.
- 1:07:17Speaker 4: I always say this with with.
- 1:07:19Speaker 5: Fan or club specific content creators me personally, Like I
- 1:07:25Speaker 5: encourage people to.
- 1:07:26Speaker 7: Go even if you're not a Melon fan, even if
- 1:07:29Speaker 7: you're not an amplifan, even if you're not a fan,
- 1:07:32Speaker 7: I need to find go watch, go listen, go see
- 1:07:36Speaker 7: what they're putting out there.
- 1:07:37Speaker 4: Just for a different perspective.
- 1:07:38Speaker 3: There's a lot of good people. There's a lot of
- 1:07:40Speaker 3: good people that are very nice people. Youatly we all
- 1:07:44Speaker 3: come from similar backgrounds. Yeah, like I have one of
- 1:07:47Speaker 3: my zios, there is a lot of fans the rest
- 1:07:49Speaker 3: of my family, Roma fans, fans of the family. Like
- 1:07:53Speaker 3: you know, like this is what it's what it is
- 1:07:55Speaker 3: at the end of the day. So like you know,
- 1:07:56Speaker 3: you can't you can't forget that too much because we
- 1:07:59Speaker 3: all know who we support comes summertime, even though we
- 1:08:01Speaker 3: really don't want to sometimes, but we do all support
- 1:08:05Speaker 3: the AI for the most part. So definitely go in
- 1:08:08Speaker 3: and help those people out, because you know, rising tide
- 1:08:10Speaker 3: carries all ships, so be sure to help those people out.
- 1:08:13Speaker 4: Because they're good interview instead of better myself.
- 1:08:15Speaker 5: So guys, go follow them for us, like we say
- 1:08:17Speaker 5: every week at the Cultural Guys on All Socials, it's
- 1:08:20Speaker 5: very very simple and.
- 1:08:21Speaker 4: It really goes a long way. A follow, a like,
- 1:08:24Speaker 4: a comment, some support.
- 1:08:26Speaker 5: Guys, go follow your your your local content creator, I
- 1:08:29Speaker 5: guess I can say. But for us, like I said
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- 1:08:48Speaker 5: wrap up this. I don't know, Johnny if we're gonna
- 1:08:50Speaker 5: talk city after, but we'll see.
- 1:08:53Speaker 4: But nevertheless, we'll be back next week to talk a
- 1:08:55Speaker 4: lot more culture. Thanks for listening, cho Yeah,