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Bad Juju, Better Practices, the Battle for Terramation and More · On Deathcare

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SPEAKER_00: You know,
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SPEAKER_00: it's been a busy week for both earned media and paid media,
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SPEAKER_00: and we're going to look at all of that.
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SPEAKER_00: And of course, some news is better than others.
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SPEAKER_00: So enough of that chatter.
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SPEAKER_00: Let's get right into it.
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This first of two stories out of Detroit is something that I
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really want to talk
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SPEAKER_00: about more than just read to you,
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but I do want to read directly from like a shortened version of
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it to give you a
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SPEAKER_00: sense of the
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SPEAKER_00: The really big swing and a miss.
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SPEAKER_00: And I think the funeral director did well with her response.
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SPEAKER_00: The owner did well with her response.
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SPEAKER_00: So let's just start with the headline.
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SPEAKER_00: Detroit Husband Stunned by Funeral Homes Wrong Ashes Voicemail.
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SPEAKER_00: A local man,
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SPEAKER_00: Curtis Robinson,
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says he was left shaken after a funeral home co-owner was
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caught on a mic-type...
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SPEAKER_00: suggesting that she would give him the wrong cremated remains.
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SPEAKER_00: Robinson,
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SPEAKER_00: whose wife died April 12th,
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requested a small portion of her ashes despite a rift with
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other family members and
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SPEAKER_00: a voicemail intended to schedule paperwork.
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SPEAKER_00: Sherita Butler,
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SPEAKER_00: the co-owner of Butler Funeral Home,
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SPEAKER_00: was heard telling an employee,
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SPEAKER_00: I'm just going to give him somebody else's ashes if he continued to ask.
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SPEAKER_00: And now, and following that, there's all sorts of he did this and
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they did that and the other thing so first of all gentle
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reminder make sure you
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hang up the phone all the way before you say anything that
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might be less than
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SPEAKER_00: positive about a family member but
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SPEAKER_00: Robinson, who's
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SPEAKER_00: estranged,
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SPEAKER_00: separated wife died April 12th,
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requested a small portion of her ashes despite absolutely being
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told to stay away
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SPEAKER_00: from the funeral home by the sons of the decedent.
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SPEAKER_00: Now,
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he in the story makes a big deal about what a nice guy he is
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because they hadn't
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SPEAKER_00: officially gotten divorced yet,
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SPEAKER_00: so he could have taken over everything.
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SPEAKER_00: But he was nice enough to let
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This woman's sons be in charge of the funeral,
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and he just wanted some of the cremated remains.
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SPEAKER_00: I guess as a keepsake,
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SPEAKER_00: I feel like he was the one that got left in this situation,
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SPEAKER_00: and I'm not deciding who's in the right or who's in the wrong anyway,
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SPEAKER_00: but it was unfortunate the way the story was reported because...
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SPEAKER_00: Tony Russo Tonyrus
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But the state says,
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I gotta get the husband to sign off on all these things.
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And so then he begins to hold his signature,
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hold the process hostage by demanding things that
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I guess he's entitled to but that clearly no one wants him to
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have and I feel
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SPEAKER_00: really really empathetic toward Ms.
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Butler who is stuck in the middle between somebody that she's
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trying to serve and
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someone that she's kind of being forced to serve and it's
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unfair that she got she
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got this bad and this guy's talking about suing her and things
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like that I don't
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SPEAKER_00: think
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Hopefully it won't go any farther So gentle reminder Make sure
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you hang up the
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phone Before you say what's on your mind If what's on your mind
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is not something
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you would say Over the phone But the other thing is You're not
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alone The next time
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SPEAKER_00: somebody makes you want to say No,
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I'm just going to take the body And go throw it in the ocean
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Remember poor Sherita
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SPEAKER_00: Butler And look around first
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SPEAKER_00: And more from Detroit,
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SPEAKER_00: the former Perry Funeral Home,
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which was infamous for a 2018 scandal involving the discovery
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of improperly stored
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SPEAKER_00: infant remains,
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SPEAKER_00: is being transformed now.
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SPEAKER_00: According to this into a place of healing by our friend,
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SPEAKER_00: uh,
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SPEAKER_00: my friend,
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SPEAKER_00: not really my friend,
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SPEAKER_00: but Patty Lynch of Lynch and Sons Funeral Directors.
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SPEAKER_00: I,
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SPEAKER_00: um,
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SPEAKER_00: I interviewed Patty last year,
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SPEAKER_00: I think,
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SPEAKER_00: because,
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SPEAKER_00: um,
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SPEAKER_00: if you're not familiar with him,
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he's going around Detroit buying old houses and buying old
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institutions and
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SPEAKER_00: rehabbing them.
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SPEAKER_00: Um, he bought this, uh, donut girl, um,
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Donut Girl Shop and now has turned it into a small regional
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chain he bought a
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schvitz for like a bath house he bought a convent and turned it
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into an art project
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and now he is buying the well the family is the family Lynch
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and Sons he's got
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brothers his father is still with us and they're actually
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buying the funeral home
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that his father started at way back when his father started as
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a funeral director
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SPEAKER_00: unfortunately
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SPEAKER_00: They've got to deal with this,
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SPEAKER_00: you know,
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SPEAKER_00: bad juju of all of these unprocessed infant remains from,
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SPEAKER_00: you know,
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SPEAKER_00: the scandal.
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SPEAKER_00: The remains are gone.
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SPEAKER_00: But the scandal, the scandal's there.
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SPEAKER_00: And I think...
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There are two things that are making this a very special
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project in my mind.
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The first is they're going to have mortuary students there on
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site during the renovation.
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SPEAKER_00: So,
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SPEAKER_00: you know,
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SPEAKER_00: again,
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SPEAKER_00: nothing better than,
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SPEAKER_00: you know,
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SPEAKER_00: fresh,
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SPEAKER_00: enthusiastic people to scare away the bad juju.
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SPEAKER_00: But the other thing is that at this particular funeral home,
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SPEAKER_00: they will not charge for infant and child funerals,
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SPEAKER_00: which is,
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SPEAKER_00: you know,
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Super Cool And It's A Way Of Acknowledging That You Know
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Nothing Bad Is Going To
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Happen To Anybody's Remains At This New Location And Again It's
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A Bold Move But
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It's A Bold Move From A Guy Who Has Spent The Last Let's Say
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Decade You Know
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Earning Community Credibility And Trust And As You Know That Is
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Critical If The
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SPEAKER_00: Community Trusts You You Can Take A
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An awful awful thing And make it into something nice So best of
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luck to him
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Hopefully I would like to Do some stories on this On the
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students And we've reached
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out And maybe we'll get something done Over the summer As
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they're living there And
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doing whatever cool things They're doing there But for now
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There's a link to the
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SPEAKER_00: story In the show notes
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This is not the right time to take your eyes off the ball if
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you're a funeral
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SPEAKER_00: director in Colorado.
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The Evergreen Funeral Home in Colorado has been placed on
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one-year probation
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following an inspection by the Colorado Department of
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Regulatory Agencies.
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SPEAKER_00: And during that inspection,
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SPEAKER_00: which was initiated by an anonymous tip,
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SPEAKER_00: a whistleblower-type thing,
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SPEAKER_00: they discovered that the
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SPEAKER_00: Funeral Home was storing more remains than was allowed,
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SPEAKER_00: with refrigeration temperatures higher than the 39 degree limit.
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And they also had some paperwork irregularities and
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inconsistent record keeping.
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SPEAKER_00: Not a great look.
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SPEAKER_00: And what's really interesting here is there are...
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comments there there are lots of quotes in the stories from
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people who were
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involved with the um return to nature scandal um a couple of
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well whatever two
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years ago at this point and they're like you know a suspension
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isn't enough you
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know you need to drag them out and shoot them well that's not
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precisely what they
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SPEAKER_00: say but that's that's the tone of it and it can't be that surprising um
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SPEAKER_00: But there is this weird balance.
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SPEAKER_00: I mean, you know, I'm not the...
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SPEAKER_00: If you're a regular listener,
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you know that I'm not the guy who's going to say don't
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overcheck these funeral
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SPEAKER_00: homes.
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But there's probably some place between immediate closure and,
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you know,
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one-year probation.
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One-year probation probably should include,
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and maybe it does,
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some more inspections and
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SPEAKER_00: More important, how do you get there?
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I had a really interesting conversation with a funeral director
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who has been
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SPEAKER_00: important in his own state.
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And I'm going to do the story next week,
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and I don't want to give too much about it away.
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But he talked about,
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as the president of his state regulatory commission,
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mentoring.
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And they would go in and they would say,
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OK,
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how are we going to help you get back together?
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SPEAKER_00: And I don't know if that's
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SPEAKER_00: Tony Russo Tonyrus
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SPEAKER_00: If it's bad management, it can be fixed.
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SPEAKER_00: And if it's bad luck,
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someone should check to make sure because no one wants to find
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out in a year that
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SPEAKER_00: not only have things not gotten better,
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SPEAKER_00: but they have gotten worse.
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SPEAKER_00: And that's what the consumer advocates are worried about.
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SPEAKER_00: And again, I'm not going to call anybody out or blame them in a
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In Colorado anyway there's a link to the story in the show
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notes and I would love
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to get your take on it because I'm going to be doing a lot
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about regulations over
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the coming weeks and months probably coming months who am I
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kidding weeks but we're
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going to be taking a bigger look at regulation as all of these
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you know questions
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SPEAKER_00: kind of coalesce around what kind of funeral industry is going to
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SPEAKER_00: be around in another 20 years.
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SPEAKER_00: Like what is it going to look like?
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And there are conversations that are going to be important to
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answer that question
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SPEAKER_00: that are going on now.
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SPEAKER_00: And that's why I think it's important to talk about it.
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SPEAKER_00: So anyway, love to have your take on it.
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SPEAKER_00: Link to this story in the show notes.
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SPEAKER_00: We're going to make this kind of a twofer story.
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SPEAKER_00: There are two stories here.
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SPEAKER_00: Both links are in the show notes.
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SPEAKER_00: I'll say that now so I don't have to say it later.
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SPEAKER_00: About the two NOR stories from the week because they're related.
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SPEAKER_00: And I want to talk about, as I said, why I want to talk about it.
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So the first one is that the Sumner Peck Ranch has been renamed
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Running River Ranch.
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SPEAKER_00: That is following the public outcry over the Houston
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SPEAKER_00: of composted human remains on the property.
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SPEAKER_00: We've been talking about this for weeks.
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This is the San Joaquin River Parkway and Conservation Trust
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and Earth Funeral.
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And Earth Funeral,
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I've said lots of times,
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just really dropped the ball on this in a big way.
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And the San Joaquin River Parkway and Conservation Trust didn't
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do a great job either.
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SPEAKER_00: And so just real quick, what happened was they were
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SPEAKER_00: Tony Russo
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SPEAKER_00: Now,
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SPEAKER_00: when they lost their minds,
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SPEAKER_00: instead of explaining to them as if they were grown-ups,
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SPEAKER_00: that,
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SPEAKER_00: well,
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SPEAKER_00: you know,
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SPEAKER_00: this is A,
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SPEAKER_00: not illegal,
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SPEAKER_00: and B,
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SPEAKER_00: not a problem,
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SPEAKER_00: because C,
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SPEAKER_00: there's nothing wrong with this soil,
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SPEAKER_00: both the Running River Ranch and Earth Funeral said,
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SPEAKER_00: we're sorry,
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SPEAKER_00: we'll never do it again.
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And that made them look like they were doing something wrong
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when they weren't.
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SPEAKER_00: And then it just makes human composting,
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SPEAKER_00: which is under siege for some reason,
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SPEAKER_00: harder for everyone else.
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And,
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you know,
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Aquamation is like this to a similar extent,
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but I think Aquamation has the...
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SPEAKER_00: has the advantage of not having composting in its title.
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SPEAKER_00: I've been trying to go with teramation,
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SPEAKER_00: but I feel like you have to mention that it is natural organic reduction.
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SPEAKER_00: But the human composting, I don't have a problem with the word.
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SPEAKER_00: I have a problem with people who are too dumb.
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SPEAKER_00: It's like
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SPEAKER_00: I once had a professor say, it's like handing a four-year-old a rifle.
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You can't just give complex information to little tiny minds
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because they don't
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SPEAKER_00: know what to do with it except to try to burn it to the ground.
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SPEAKER_00: So that was the one story.
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SPEAKER_00: So this is a battle lost in California,
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SPEAKER_00: which is,
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SPEAKER_00: again,
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SPEAKER_00: unfortunate because it's an opportunity for education to
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And along those same lines and the other story is New Hampshire
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rejected the live
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free and die free human composting bill which I was like
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putting asterisk on you
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know it was like live free or die asterisk you know and after
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you're dead you have
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SPEAKER_00: to do what we tell you.
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This is It was a close vote They'll probably have it again
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Eventually it will pass
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But I wanted to bring up the words of Senator Darrell Abbess
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Who is from Salem Not
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SPEAKER_00: the Salem where they burned witches This is the more conservative Salem
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SPEAKER_00: He said,
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I don't believe that we should be treating human remains in an
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overtly utilitarian
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SPEAKER_00: way.
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And so utilitarian and human dignity are the two things that
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are constantly brought
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SPEAKER_00: up by the people who,
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SPEAKER_00: for no good reason,
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SPEAKER_00: I mean,
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SPEAKER_00: If we were trying to pass a law,
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if anyone was trying to pass a law saying that we were going to
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ban everything
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except human composting and everyone would have to be
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terramated as part of their
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SPEAKER_00: final disposition,
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SPEAKER_00: I could see people getting crazy,
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SPEAKER_00: crazy weird uptight about it,
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SPEAKER_00: but that's not the case.
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These are people who are just for no good reason or for
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religious reasons,
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SPEAKER_00: but we'll get to that in the next story.
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SPEAKER_00: Saying that they don't like other people doing it.
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SPEAKER_00: And,
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SPEAKER_00: you know,
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it gets exhausting after a while having to behave in a way that
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other people find
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SPEAKER_00: comfortable.
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SPEAKER_00: If I'm not a member of your religion,
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I don't know why you would feel like you have to hold me
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accountable for it.
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SPEAKER_00: And this is the problem, the main problem.
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with Terramation around the country and eventually it'll pass
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and I don't see this
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taking the world by storm but it is worth saying that it took a
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hundred years for
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the Catholic Church to approve cremation and you know that
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approval was based on
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the fact that people had stopped listening to them and started
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getting cremated
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anyway and I feel like you know Terramation's on the same path
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you know they you
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SPEAKER_00: know
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SPEAKER_00: That's why we call them ashes, right?
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We call them ashes so that it reinforces the lack of dignity
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that cremation does to
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SPEAKER_00: a human body.
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So,
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all right,
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that's a lost cause now because everyone's getting cremated and
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everyone says no.
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SPEAKER_00: As a matter of fact, it's a really beautiful way to treat a human body.
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SPEAKER_00: It's an important way for some people.
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SPEAKER_00: And I feel like that's where a terremation will be.
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SPEAKER_00: I mean, hopefully it doesn't take 100 years.
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SPEAKER_00: 100 years seems like a long time to have to convince,
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SPEAKER_00: you know,
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SPEAKER_00: 12 people to just be grownups and not do it themselves.
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SPEAKER_00: And that'll be enough.
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SPEAKER_00: But yeah, so that's where we stand on those.
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And that's the end of my human composting slash termation
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reporting for this week.
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SPEAKER_00: But I am going to get into cremation a little bit.
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SPEAKER_00: Generally when I report on community fighting against cremation,
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SPEAKER_00: I always try to bring up the fact that it is a religious practice.
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SPEAKER_00: It's not just an economic thing.
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As I mentioned in the last story about the kind of slanderous
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way cremation used to
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be treated before people just started ignoring people who were
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slanderous about it.
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SPEAKER_00: That kind of attitude is still kind of pervasive,
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SPEAKER_00: but it's also a religious right for some people,
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SPEAKER_00: and it's a religious practice for some people.
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Actually,
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I'm going to say it's a religious practice for most people,
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and by most people I mean
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SPEAKER_00: All of East Asia and South Asia,
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SPEAKER_00: much of East Asia and South Asia demands cremation,
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SPEAKER_00: which makes it the thing.
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SPEAKER_00: If there are religions, the Hindus and Sikhs and other religions,
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Non-Christian Religions Kind of Demand That That Is Their
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Method Of Disposition And
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SPEAKER_00: In Lexington,
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Massachusetts There Has Been A Problem With Trying To Get A
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Public Crematory At The
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Westview Cemetery Because No One Will Allow Cremation Because
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It's Bad Or Whatever
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SPEAKER_00: They Say About Cremation
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And These People Are Like This Is Our Religion You Know And
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They Added The Cultural
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Equity To The Argument Which Is Something That Hasn'T Really
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Been Done Very Much
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Before You Know People Talk About You Know Cremations Going To
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60% Cremations Going
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SPEAKER_00: To 80% Cremations More Affordable Cremations What People Want But
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People don't often enough say cremation is what this certain
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demographic needs to
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SPEAKER_00: have as part of their religious ritual.
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And that is a significant and harder to say no to angle than
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just,
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well,
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it's legal.
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SPEAKER_00: It's legal.
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SPEAKER_00: Unfortunately,
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it's legal is not an argument that you can make if you want to
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put up a crematory
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SPEAKER_00: because,
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SPEAKER_00: as I've mentioned a thousand times,
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SPEAKER_00: they don't care about your rights.
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Once old Alan down the block starts screaming about he's going
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to choke to death,
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SPEAKER_00: they don't care about your rights and they don't care about the law.
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SPEAKER_00: They just don't want to get yelled at by grouchy old men like myself.
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SPEAKER_00: But once you add the cultural component, all of a sudden...
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Grumpy old Alan isn't just saying you know it's bad he's saying
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my neighbors are
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SPEAKER_00: bad for wanting to follow their religion when they
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SPEAKER_00: Tony Russo Tonyrus
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SPEAKER_00: You know,
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SPEAKER_00: again,
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remember if you are a cremator and you are worried about trying
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to get a new
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SPEAKER_00: crematory approved or any of those things,
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remember that the religious aspect is a significant and real
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aspect of modern flame
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SPEAKER_00: cremation.
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SPEAKER_00: All right, link to that in the show notes.
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This week I want to just do a quick shout out to our friends at
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Starmark who
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SPEAKER_00: donated more than 100 urns to the final salute for their event this week.
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SPEAKER_00: I've reported on The Final Salute before.
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SPEAKER_00: If you're not familiar with it,
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SPEAKER_00: it's a nonprofit that was started by Linnea Strovers,
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SPEAKER_00: who may be known to some of you as an NFDA trainer.
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SPEAKER_00: But she's also a funeral director and a member of her community.
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SPEAKER_00: And in Des Moines,
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SPEAKER_00: where she works,
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she has started this program where they have a ceremony for all
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of the unclaimed
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SPEAKER_00: people.
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Veterans Remains and they have members of the community stand
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in as family members
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for these people and each of them you know does something they
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they sign the um
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they they signed kind of the vessels and things like that but
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anyway uh i i spoke
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with her briefly when i heard that they had gotten this
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donation and it's just a
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nice story frankly and she called starmark and said hey listen
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you know i'm with
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SPEAKER_00: this non-profit and
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SPEAKER_00: You know, could we get a break?
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SPEAKER_00: We're going to need more than 100 urns.
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SPEAKER_00: And they're like, yeah, you can get a break.
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SPEAKER_00: How about we just donate them?
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SPEAKER_00: And it's just, you know, a nice way to step up.
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SPEAKER_00: No one asked for anything and it was just given kind of freely.
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SPEAKER_00: And I thought,
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SPEAKER_00: you know,
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it would be cool to shout them out They've always been good
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folks over there at
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Starmark So it's not like it's a shock But it's something worth
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mentioning So
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SPEAKER_00: anyway,
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there's a link to the Final Salute Facebook page in this story
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Or in lieu of a,
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SPEAKER_00: you know,
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news story link And it's got lots of great There are so many
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great photos of this
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event You'd do well to check it out So I'll put that link in
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the show notes
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SPEAKER_00: I'm sorry,
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SPEAKER_00: this is a post-credit recording,
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SPEAKER_00: so you'll see,
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I think the microphone is in a different place if you're
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watching on the video.
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SPEAKER_00: If you're listening,
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then you don't know anything's different except that I pointed
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out something's
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SPEAKER_00: I am recording this on Wednesday, April 29th.
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SPEAKER_00: I've moved my recording day for lots of reasons,
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but I used to like to try to finish it on Thursday night for
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Friday morning.
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This week we have SCI and Matthews reporting on Thursday and
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Friday morning.
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respectively that is not included in this video for those
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make sure you subscribe to on deathcare.com I'm going to make a
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pitch in a second
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in the closing and I will have the full story for all of those
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available to you by
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the time you hear this the SCI story will be out and the
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Matthews story will
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SPEAKER_00: probably be out Friday afternoon so all right now back to the show
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I love writing these stories and I love talking to people about
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I got a really interesting call like while I was recording this
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from a congressman
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I'm a little unclaimed remains heavy this week so we'll save
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that one for next week
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plus the legislation has it 100% passed but anyway this is so
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26:26
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