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BONUS: The One Opponent For Ohio State To Worry About · Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Buckeyes Tomorrow morning for Saturday, November fifteenth. I'm
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  Speaker 1: Juck taking a look at the one game that should
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  Speaker 1: concern Ohio State and its fans.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, it's Chuck. We are not bemoaning the noon kickoff
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  Speaker 2: for You're now it. It's a badge of honor. We're
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  Speaker 2: the lunatic fringe that defines our coaches legacy when it
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  Speaker 2: comes to this game. They don't get to define that
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  Speaker 2: outside the family who were cut from a different cloth.
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  Speaker 2: Bro Hioans, He's got it all, man, He's even got
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  Speaker 2: and you're just like, yeah, man, that's a dude. Do
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  Speaker 2: I want Michigan to beat Oklahoma? No way in hell.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what world I'm living in. This is
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  Speaker 2: insane to me.
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  Speaker 3: And if you saw my outburst, I apologize. It's showtime
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  Speaker 3: now and welcome in a Buckeye Huddle, Prime Time.
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  Speaker 2: Appreciate you so much for joining me. We got a
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  Speaker 2: big one tonight, guys. We got a big one tonight
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  Speaker 2: on the Buck Huddle, Prime Time, a Wednesday night live
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  Speaker 2: for your enjoyment, talking Ohio State, Buck guys, talking college football.
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  Speaker 2: We're even talking Ohio Stadium tonight. And I've got a
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  Speaker 2: little nugget for you. Little nugget, You're not gonna find
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  Speaker 2: anywhere else but a loaded show from Juck Eye Studios
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  Speaker 2: Northeast Ohio. The college football rankings are out. We will
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  Speaker 2: discuss those briefly, not too much. I'm sure you've heard
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  Speaker 2: plenty about them already. Ohio State, Indiana, Texas A, and
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  Speaker 2: M one two three. Some people got some nitpicks, and
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  Speaker 2: I got some nitpicks about their nitpicks, particularly some professional
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  Speaker 2: college football journalists who, after a dozen years of this
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  Speaker 2: exact same system, still don't understand how it works. They
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  Speaker 2: embarrassed themselves yesterday. I'll embarrass them tonight also tonight. Last season,
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  Speaker 2: it looked like we could be seeing maybe the beginning
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  Speaker 2: of a new five to ten year rivalry potentially in
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  Speaker 2: the Big Ten with Oregon for Big Ten supremacy. And
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  Speaker 2: a year later, does it still feel that way to you?
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  Speaker 2: Or might it actually ring a little truer if we
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  Speaker 2: had another border war, Not Pennsylvania, not Michigan, but the
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  Speaker 2: border to the west, potentially so the Ohio State Buckey's
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  Speaker 2: class of twenty twenty six. It's a class that has
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  Speaker 2: infuriated a lot of Ohio State fans. Not so much
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  Speaker 2: for the players in the class, but how it's been
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  Speaker 2: handled financially and such. We will talk a bit about
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  Speaker 2: the class because top men have been taking advantage of
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  Speaker 2: all of the Let's say, I don't know, look at
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  Speaker 2: the helmets there behind this shoulder here, just take a
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  Speaker 2: gander at those helmets. A lot of turmoil and lost jobs.
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  Speaker 2: They had a lot of recruits. We got some serious
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  Speaker 2: buck guys on the job trying to pull some of
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  Speaker 2: those recruits and some big news coming out. I think
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  Speaker 2: that this class is not going to finish nins. We'll
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  Speaker 2: put it that way. So we'll discuss a few of
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  Speaker 2: those guys. But at the Woody yesterday, Ryan Day, a
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  Speaker 2: switch has been flipped. We are officially in the back
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  Speaker 2: half of the entire season. Should the Buckeyes be able
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  Speaker 2: to play sixteen or seventeen games, depending on whether or
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  Speaker 2: not they win or lose that conference championship game. And
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  Speaker 2: Ryan Day yesterday at his press conference a different attitude
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  Speaker 2: than he has had at any point this year. For sure,
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  Speaker 2: it can't be the game He's got Purdue this week.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's the back half of the season. Trailed
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  Speaker 2: in his smiles and pleasantries for a very serious, matter
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  Speaker 2: of fact demeanor, not rude he's never rude, but zero nonsense,
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  Speaker 2: including the college football rankings. He was not interested in
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  Speaker 2: them at all, and he didn't want the team to
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  Speaker 2: be interested in them at all. But he said, the
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  Speaker 2: TV's are beyond They're always on, so you know, obviously
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  Speaker 2: they'll see them, they'll talk about them. But very dismissive
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  Speaker 2: of it all. And he said, what's it matter if
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  Speaker 2: he doesn't win, doesn't matter, which is true. But heading
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  Speaker 2: into last night, it was very trendy to say that
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  Speaker 2: Indiana was going to be the number one coming out
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  Speaker 2: of the night, and some of the reasons that people
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  Speaker 2: thought Indiana would potentially be the number one, we're all
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  Speaker 2: the wrong reasons. To be honest, Indiana has the best
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  Speaker 2: road win at Oregon. Ohia State's big win against Texas
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  Speaker 2: was at home, so Indiana's just better. Indiana beat Iowa,
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  Speaker 2: they killed Illinois. Ohio State played Illinois much closer, and
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  Speaker 2: maybe the dumbest one, Indiana's been blowing teams out, Ohio
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  Speaker 2: State hasn't been blowing teams out. Then we saw the
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  Speaker 2: rankings dropped and a whole lot of people lost their crap,
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  Speaker 2: including some people that call themselves college football journalists and
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  Speaker 2: the lack of understanding after twelve years of the committee
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  Speaker 2: by people who do this professionally is stunning to me.
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  Speaker 2: I think you ought to at least understand this thing,
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  Speaker 2: because you could have backed and gone to automatic qualifiers,
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  Speaker 2: gotten rid of the selection committee. Nobody in the media
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  Speaker 2: back that. They all hated it. They despised it, and
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  Speaker 2: Tony Pettiti and the big ten coaches were on an
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  Speaker 2: island with that one, so they all wanted to stick
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  Speaker 2: with the committee. And if you want to stick with
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  Speaker 2: the committee, I think you ought to at least understand
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  Speaker 2: how the thing operates that you're advocating for, and it's
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  Speaker 2: clear that they don't. And we will start with Vanini.
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  Speaker 2: Chris Vanini, Michigan State grad and generally I kind of
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  Speaker 2: liked this guy from the Athletic, usually pretty sharp, but
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  Speaker 2: he tweeted yesterday this year he says, I don't really
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  Speaker 2: understand Ohio State ahead of Indiana other than just I
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  Speaker 2: think they're better. Indiana is the only team with two
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  Speaker 2: top twenty road wins. The resume is clearly better. It
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  Speaker 2: ultimately doesn't matter because they'll play, but it's not consistent.
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  Speaker 2: And honestly, this one just kind of blows my mind
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  Speaker 2: here when he say the task of the committee is
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  Speaker 2: to get the best teams and stack them in order.
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  Speaker 2: What is the best team? How do you come about
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  Speaker 2: determining what is the best team. It's a lot of things.
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  Speaker 2: It's resume, it's also analytical data. It's also particular units
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  Speaker 2: on the team. It's also players. They think stand out
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  Speaker 2: is dominant. We've known this for twelve years. Best best.
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  Speaker 2: How many times we heard them say it best. We're
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  Speaker 2: looking for the best. They're looking for the best, and
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  Speaker 2: they stack them in pods of three, and they take
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  Speaker 2: their pods of three and they determine who's best in
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  Speaker 2: that pod of three one, two, three, and then they
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  Speaker 2: go to the next pod. They've told us this system
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  Speaker 2: some year after year after year, and folks like Chris
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  Speaker 2: Vanini and a whole lot of other people who work
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  Speaker 2: in college football, still after all this time, stay things
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  Speaker 2: like that. I don't know how Ohio State could be
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  Speaker 2: ahead of Indiana other than just thinking they're the best.
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  Speaker 2: That's exactly what they thought. They thought Ohio State was
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  Speaker 2: just the best based on more information than that one
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  Speaker 2: little statistical piece of analysis that you put there in
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  Speaker 2: your tweet. How about Brad Crawford. This one really disappointed me.
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  Speaker 2: Brad Crawford from two four seven was the college Football
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  Speaker 2: Juckeye Writer of the Year in twenty twenty four because
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  Speaker 2: he wrote about juck On Bucks in an article. Nonetheless,
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  Speaker 2: I can be bought for sure, But he was the
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  Speaker 2: Juckeye writer of the year, and he tweeted this yesterday,
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  Speaker 2: which was even more asinine. Number of ranked wins, number
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  Speaker 2: of wins over ranked teams in the playoff rankings Alabama four,
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  Speaker 2: Ohio State two, Indiana two A and M one. Tell
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  Speaker 2: me why roll Tide is ranked fourth. So advocating for
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  Speaker 2: Alabama to be ahead of Texas A and m Ohio
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  Speaker 2: State in Indiana and obviously ranked wins is an ESPN
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  Speaker 2: like baseline graphic statistic for people who don't understand anything deeper.
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  Speaker 2: It's very easy, very simple. Anybody can understand what that
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  Speaker 2: means if you're trying to judge who is the best team.
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  Speaker 2: And Alabama's had four opportunities to play ranked teams, but
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  Speaker 2: Ohio State, Indiana have only had two, and A and
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  Speaker 2: M's only had one. They're all undefeated. Does that prove
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  Speaker 2: that Alabama is best? No, of course it doesn't. It
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  Speaker 2: proves that they've had the opportunity to play four ranked
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  Speaker 2: teams and the others haven't. It proves that Alabama's battle
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  Speaker 2: tested and proves they're probably pretty good, proves they have
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  Speaker 2: the best resume. Maybe it might. Of course, he's ignoring
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  Speaker 2: the fact that they also have a loss the other
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  Speaker 2: three don't, and that their loss was to a five
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  Speaker 2: hundred ACC team that he's choosing to ignore. Again, these
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  Speaker 2: are people who write about college football for a living,
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  Speaker 2: and none of this is new, been this way for
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  Speaker 2: over a decade. Then there was the big Notre Dame
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  Speaker 2: Miami debate coming into the night. My buddy Ari Wasserman
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  Speaker 2: spent all day arguing with people that Miami should be
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  Speaker 2: ahead of Notre Dame. And in the Notre Dame Miami debate,
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  Speaker 2: both teams have lost two games, Notre Dame to better
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  Speaker 2: competition Miami and Texas A and M. But Miami has
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  Speaker 2: the best win because they beat Notre Dame. Notre Dame's
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  Speaker 2: best win was just USC So what do we know
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  Speaker 2: about head to head? We know that if the Committee
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  Speaker 2: values had they value head to head, but only when
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  Speaker 2: they view the teams as similar. For instance, in the
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  Speaker 2: same pot of three. That's when head to head would matter,
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  Speaker 2: and it would matter a lot. Well, Notre Dame was
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  Speaker 2: number ten, Miami was number eighteen, so it wasn't even close.
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  Speaker 2: And people flipped out about this, absolutely flipped out. One
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  Speaker 2: of the reasons they were furious because the committee was
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  Speaker 2: factoring in that Notre Dame was hot Miami. They need
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  Speaker 2: to see more consistency. They're trending in the wrong direction essentially,
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  Speaker 2: and they don't think that trend should be factored into it.
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  Speaker 2: And I can understand their logic on that, because you
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  Speaker 2: know you're gonna find out at the end, so why
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  Speaker 2: judge them now on how they're trending. But we're doing
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  Speaker 2: an early ranking. I don't know, man, I don't know
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  Speaker 2: what the answer is here. You can argue either of
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  Speaker 2: this or any of these arguments either way. But again,
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  Speaker 2: this is a committee. This is what they signed up for,
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  Speaker 2: This is what everybody wanted. Texas and Oklahoma they are
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  Speaker 2: also behind Notre Dame and they're right behind them in
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  Speaker 2: spots number eleven and twelve. All three of those teams
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  Speaker 2: have the same number of losses, but Texas beat two
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  Speaker 2: ranked teams and lost to two ranked teams. Oklahoma beat
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  Speaker 2: two ranked teams and lost to two ranked teams. Notre
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  Speaker 2: Dame beat one ranked team and lost to two ranked teams.
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  Speaker 2: Why is Notre Dame ahead? People flipping out about this again,
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  Speaker 2: it's not a resume contest. If you look at the
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  Speaker 2: animal between Notre Dame Texas and Oklahoma, Notre Dame blows
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  Speaker 2: them away. I would debate. The eye test says the same.
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  Speaker 2: I've watched them all play several games this year. It
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  Speaker 2: just kind of blows my mind. Man, the way people
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  Speaker 2: get all up in arms about this when they know that.
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  Speaker 2: How many times do we see this original ranking come
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  Speaker 2: out and then there's a bunch of debate about it,
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  Speaker 2: and then they contradict themselves two weeks later and we
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  Speaker 2: see things totally change. I mean, it's never consistent. It's
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  Speaker 2: always like this every year, and sometimes it's not even
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  Speaker 2: consistent from the penultimate ranking to the final ranking. We've
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  Speaker 2: even seen that before. So I don't see any sense
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  Speaker 2: of getting angry over it. People are angry about Georgia Tech,
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  Speaker 2: very angry about Georgia Tech, who after a forty eight
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  Speaker 2: to thirty six loss to lowly NC State, they're now
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  Speaker 2: eight and one. And when we look at them. They
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  Speaker 2: have now dropped to where they at Georgia Tech. I
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  Speaker 2: think seventeen. They're at seventeen seventeen with only one loss
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  Speaker 2: in the ACC. Well, the only team they've beat that's
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  Speaker 2: over five hundred is Duke. They're four and one in conference,
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  Speaker 2: So that sucks for them, right, I mean, they only
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  Speaker 2: can play who the show's on their schedule. I get it,
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  Speaker 2: But they haven't really had much of an opportunity to
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  Speaker 2: show how good they are, and they're you know, statistical
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  Speaker 2: analysis it's not so great, and they're in the ACC.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know what to tell you. I
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  Speaker 2: think they'll have it. I mean, they'll obviously have an
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  Speaker 2: opportunity in the ACC Championship. But they're fans up in
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  Speaker 2: arms about that. They feel shunned, and I get it.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's pretty interesting where Michigan is at number
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  Speaker 2: twenty one. Michigan at number twenty one. You know, they
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  Speaker 2: lost two rough games on the road at Oklahoma and USC.
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  Speaker 2: They won on the road at Nebraska, that's their best win.
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  Speaker 2: They beat Washington at home. Are they ranked a little
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  Speaker 2: too low? I think they probably are, but again, their
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  Speaker 2: data not so great. I guess the big question, and
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  Speaker 2: I've heard this ask, but it is interesting. If Michigan
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  Speaker 2: were to beat the next couple of cream Puffs on
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  Speaker 2: their schedule and then beat Ohio State, would it be enough.
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  Speaker 2: Would it be enough to get into the top eleven.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know. Man, that's a big
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  Speaker 2: jump you gotta make. That's a really big jump. How
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  Speaker 2: about Oregon at number nine? That surprised a lot of people.
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  Speaker 2: That surprised me, and I got to admit originally, after
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  Speaker 2: that Penn State game and then Penn State goes and
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  Speaker 2: loses to UCLA and they lose to Northwestern, I was
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  Speaker 2: of the opinion that Oregon still deserves credit. They still
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  Speaker 2: deserve credit because it was them who was playing that
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  Speaker 2: quality Penn State team, and after Penn State lost, they
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  Speaker 2: fell apart. They still beat a really good team that night.
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  Speaker 2: But now that we've watched Penn State play more games,
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  Speaker 2: I think Penn State was just wildly overrated from the
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  Speaker 2: beginning and that they were never going to be that
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  Speaker 2: good of a football team. And then we look further
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  Speaker 2: at what Oregon's done since then. They lost to Indians
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  Speaker 2: at home handily, and I just don't think Oregon's really
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  Speaker 2: that good this year. They're good. Their playoff caliber good
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  Speaker 2: for sure, but I don't know. I'm not so sure.
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  Speaker 2: They're definitely not as good as last year. And they've
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  Speaker 2: got a bit of a tough way to go, to
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  Speaker 2: be honest, when we look at their remaining schedule. They've
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  Speaker 2: still got USC. I think, they've got Washington, and they've
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  Speaker 2: got Iowa. They got Iowa this weekend, so that's gonna
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  Speaker 2: be a tough one. That's gonna be tough, and they're
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  Speaker 2: gonna have to win two out of three of those
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  Speaker 2: to make the playoffs. But again, this is what you
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  Speaker 2: sign up for when you want this system with the committee.
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  Speaker 2: I liked the AQ proposal, the four four two two
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  Speaker 2: one three. I thought it was beautifully entertaining. I liked
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  Speaker 2: the way that it incentivized out of conference games and
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  Speaker 2: winning them because those final three at large bids, which
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  Speaker 2: were the only committee involvement, would involve the committee to
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  Speaker 2: choose those three and also mean that if you're playing
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  Speaker 2: out of conference game, you're incentivized to win that game
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  Speaker 2: and win it big, because if you don't finish top
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  Speaker 2: four in your conference, you can still get in with
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  Speaker 2: the at large bid. It also did away with ridiculous
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  Speaker 2: conference championship games, and you know, put the one and
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  Speaker 2: two seed in and then the next four battled it
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  Speaker 2: out for the playoffs. Spot I loved it. I thought
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  Speaker 2: it was really awesome. I thought it was really cool,
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  Speaker 2: and it got shot down. But speaking of this Big
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  Speaker 2: ten championship game, Indiana, So let's get to this one
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  Speaker 2: Indiana Ohio State. And it doesn't really matter who's number
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  Speaker 2: one or number two. We all knew that, and none
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  Speaker 2: of us cared whether Ohio State was number one or
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  Speaker 2: number two. Resume analytics and all that jazz, and ultimately
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  Speaker 2: they cited Ohio State's defense and some playmakers as to
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  Speaker 2: what put Ohio State over the top there in that
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  Speaker 2: argument for them between Indiana. You know I would agree.
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  Speaker 2: I would. I mean, if you're just asking me straight up,
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  Speaker 2: who's the better team, I think Ohio State's the better team.
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  Speaker 2: And I've heard a lot of people that cover Ohio
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  Speaker 2: States say I think it's the better team. But Indiana
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  Speaker 2: deserved it. Again, this is not a deserve It's not
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  Speaker 2: what it is. It's best. That's it. Not deserving. Not
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  Speaker 2: your resume deserves it or warrants it. It's just best.
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  Speaker 2: So if you think of House is the best, then
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  Speaker 2: you think they should have been number one. That's it.
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  Speaker 2: Kurt Signetti this year has played in a way that
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  Speaker 2: I think is smart for him, for his team. He's
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  Speaker 2: run up the score on everybody and it's working. Every
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  Speaker 2: time we hear somebody talk about Indiana, they keep saying
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  Speaker 2: how they're destroying everybody, and everyone is so excited that
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  Speaker 2: Indiana is able to destroy everybody, and certainly they are.
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  Speaker 2: They're destroying everybody and running up the score is working
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  Speaker 2: for him. It's doing exactly what it's supposed to do.
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  Speaker 2: I think he needed to do it, and he's going
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  Speaker 2: about it just like I would want my coach to
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  Speaker 2: do it if I was an Indiana fan. But somehow
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  Speaker 2: saying that that's what he's doing is controversial to the
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  Speaker 2: Indiana fans, as I recently found out. And I'm telling you, guys,
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  Speaker 2: I've been in more ridiculous arguments with these Indiana fans,
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  Speaker 2: who I never knew until last year, in this last
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  Speaker 2: year than any other fan base. They have this weird
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  Speaker 2: juxtaposition of an inferiority complex and arrogant at the same time,
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  Speaker 2: and it's really bizarre to deal with they're also kind
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  Speaker 2: of know nothings when it comes to how this all operates,
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  Speaker 2: and it's very clear. It's kind of cute at times,
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  Speaker 2: but the comments I get under videos I do sometimes
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: from Indiana fans are ridiculous. They really are. For instance,
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: I was on with College Football with Sam last week.
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: In College Football with Sam asked me, what is it
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: with Ohio State fans in the SEC? And I explained
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: to him it goes back to two thousand and six.
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: In two thousand and seven, we were the only Big
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: Ten team for fifteen years who competed with them in
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: recruiting on a national level in games, and they consistently
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: clowned us because of our easy schedule and said we
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: could never compete if we were in the SEC. We
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: just won all our games because we were in the
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: Big Ten, and it was so annoying, and we had
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: a pretty lousy record and still do against them in
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: the postseason, and it really chaps us, man, and it
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: hung with us until twenty fourteen. And that's part of
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: the reason. A lot of the reason that I felt
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: animosity against many of the Big Ten programs is because
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: they wouldn't step up, they wouldn't invest in football, They
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: wouldn't recruit balls of the ball, they wouldn't pay for
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: support staffs, and not showing that yes, we also played
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: good football and have good football players in the Midwest,
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: didn't help bolster our schedule. So I say all this
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: on Sam's show, and this Indiana fan is insulted. He
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: is insulted. The Indiana fan the losing his program in
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: the history of college football, was insulted that I said
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: the Big Ten didn't support and invest in football, and
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: I was just blown away. Man. He said I was arrogant,
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: and I have sec envy. Now you call me arrogant,
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: maybe maybe not, but you know it's the truth. There's
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: nothing And I said, that isn't true. All of that
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: is true, one hundred percent. I also found out recently
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: from another Indiana fan that many of these Indiana fans
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: are Indiana basketball fans, Notre Dame football fans. But now
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: that Indiana's good, they're ditching the Notre Dame merchandise and
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: hopping on the Indiana bandwagon. And I got no respect
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: for that, none at all, none at all. But they're
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: my rivals. Man. I had one today today say that
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: they weren't running up the score. He thought. I thought
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: he was joking at first, so he thought that they
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: weren't running up the score and they're beating everyone like
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: fifty six to three, and he thought they weren't running
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: up the score because they were just playing their regular game. Well,
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: their regular game is tempo. And I pulled up a final,
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: maybe second to last series against Maryland. These guys were
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: snapping the ball with twenty seconds left, so they're still
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: running tempo. And out of the ten plays they ran
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: on this touchdown drive, there were five passes, so they're
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: throwing the ball. One was a to three yard pass,
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: throwing the ball downfield and running tempo. And I showed
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: it to him. Now, clearly that's evidence for this moron
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: that they're running up to score. No, it's not, because
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: he says, well, those are our backups. And it's almost like,
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: do you not understand that the opposing team puts their
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: backups in when they're down fifty as well? I just
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: they don't. They really don't. It's like they're all new
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: to this, and uh, they're very obnoxious, man, they're very obnoxious.
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: I had one say to me just yesterday that Ohio
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: States win against Washington not as impressive as their win
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: against Iowa, because Kinnick is a tougher place to play
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: than Washington, and everybody knows it. I thought he was joking.
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: He's not joking. He's not joking. And obviously, Washington one
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: of the toughest places to play, the loudest college football
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: stadium in the country, and you got to make the
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: travel east out west, so infinitely harder than Kinnick, which
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: is also very hard. But I've been dealing with this
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: in fighting with these idiots. Meanwhile, I got all my
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: Buckeye fam cheering these guys on, and I gotta say, guys,
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: it's time to take them seriously. They're the enemy. They're
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: the enemy. We could be looking at a butting rivalry
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: with these guys. It may not be organ it might
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: not be. It might be these guys. Don't forget. We
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: can't even flip our own kid from Masslin who's committed
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: to them. We've got a couple guys committed to them
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: and on the recruiting trail Big ten championships. Now it's
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: a year later. Man, it's not so cute anymore. Like
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: we gotta play these dudes. That's the enemy. And I
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: feel like they're not going anywhere, But I do wonder
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: can they really compete? And I'll never forget the press
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: conference Kurt Signetti put on last year after the butt
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: whooping that they took at Ohio Stadium. He was just
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: beside himself bewildered. I cut it up because it was
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: so hilarious looking at this man who's he's funny. I
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: think he's pretty cool, right, I'm no animosity towards him,
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: but he is incredibly arrogant. And it was like, boy,
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: this guy just got his comeuppance and it was beautiful.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: I loved it. And I'm sitting here thinking about these teams.
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: I don't know that Indiana can compete with Ohio State.
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: The line came out three and a half points in
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: a hypothetical line Ohio State minus three and a half
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: in the Big Ten Championship. If the game is that close,
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: then I think there's a decent chance Ohio State in
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: Indiana meet again in the playoffs, because I would then
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: think for sure, those are the two best teams in
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: the country. If they can compete against Ohio State, they
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: can compete against anybody. They can compete against Georgia and Bama.
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: But if they can't compete against Ohio State, then I
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: don't think they can compete against Bama or Georgia because
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: I think it's the blue chips and the big men
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: that will be the difference that they just can't quite
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: compete athletically with that next level of athlete, the defensive
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: line monsters. You know. I heard what's his name, Mendoza
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: complementing Zen Mahalski the other day and I'm like, dude,
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: you got Zen Mahalski trying to block Rvel Reese off
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: the edge, Like, man, get out of here with that?
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: Is Mendoza gonna be able to dice up the Ohio
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: State secondary? Are they going to be able to run
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: the ball at will? Three hundred and forty seven yards
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: last game against Washington? I got that all twenty two.
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna watch that probably tonight. I want to see
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: what they're doing. How are they going about running the
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: ball for three forty seven because I didn't watch any
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: of that game, so curious to see that. But this
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: Big Ten Championship in Indianapolis, should we get there, gonna
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: be absolutely electric. Even if Ohio State doesn't get to
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: the Big Ten Championship, I think that's most likely we're
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: gonna see those guys in the playoffs. I think so.
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: But yeah, it's the enemy, man, it's the enemy anyway.
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: Please all if you could like the like the channel
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: and whoa hold on, Brennan says Jack. I think Ohio
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: State is plus three and a half against Indiana plus
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: four and a half. Yeah, I think you got that
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: backwards minus three and a half. Rights, Ohio State's favored
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: against all them, so that would be minus So surely
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: we're not the underdog against all them. You know what
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: I'm saying. Ah Tony said, Chuck's out here picking on
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: football children. Can they play? I don't know. Yes, this
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: is absolutely correct, Jam Jam said. Zach showed analytics this morning.
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: Ohio State in Indiana head and shoulders over everyone. They
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: really are, and that's why you know, I'm nervous about
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: that game. I'm nervous about that matchup. But at the
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: same time, it's not gonna surprise me one bit if
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: Ohio State, you know, whoops them and it's clear by
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: halftime that they just they can't quite compete. Will you
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: guys be surprised by that? I mean, I won't, I
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: won't it all. Yeah, minus three and a half. That
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: makes sense, Ben, So yeah, the Bucks favored by three
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: and a half. Buck. Guy's got Purdue this week. Guys
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: Perdue terrible, absolutely horrific. They haven't beat an FBS team
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: this year and twenty one to sixteen. Michigan beat him
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: last week. And Bryce Underwood is awful. He looks like
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: he's regressing. He looks like a wide receiver playing quarterback.
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: Now the guy's got a cannon. But it's just interesting
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: watching Julian say and throw the football, the touch, the accuracy,
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: and then watching that kid. Obviously he's a hell of
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: an athlete and that certainly makes up for a lot
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: of what he can't do with his arm. But boyd,
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: does he got a long way to go? And you
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: gotta wonder does he got the coaching? Does he got
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: the quarterback coaching at Michigan to accelerate that process. I'm
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: gonna guess not. I'm really gonna guess not. And the
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: Michigan fans in a bit of a bit of a conundrum.
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: You know, they're they're getting enough wins out of Seuron
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: more for him to secure his job, but it's becoming
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: clear to them that this is not the guy that's
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: going to ever lead them to anything, you know, but
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: maybe a playoff berth, He's not gonna lead him to
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: any kind of championships. It's just kind of a purgatory, right, Like,
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: what do you do with that? I don't know. But
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: these next two games, they got a couple of cream puffs.
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: I kind of want them to win, win, come into
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: the game with just two losses, and what if they gosh,
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: what if they won the game it didn't make the playoffs.
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: That would just be utterly hysterical. Although it wouldn't cheer
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: us up, I'm sure at that time, but I'm just
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: I'm not letting damn put that in my head today anyway.
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: Other big games this weekend, not many, kind of a
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: week's late. We got texts ay and m number three
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: taking on Missouri at Missouri number twenty two. Missouri text
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: saying them a six and a half point favorite. I'd
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: like to see them get knocked off their high horse,
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: So I'll be tune into that one pretty well. Maybe
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: the most interesting game of the week. Number nine Oregon
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: hosting number twenty Iowa. I liked seeing Iowa get ranked
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: at number twenty. That was pretty cool. Oregon is six
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: and a half point favorite at home and Oregon again
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: tough go man. They got to win two out of
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: three to make the playoffs. Iowa USC Washington, Alabama plays
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: the Brian Kelly liss LSU Tigers. Alabama gonna be at home,
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: ten and a half point favorite, and of course Indiana
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: goes to Penn State. And you want to talk about
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: this Indiana program. Man. Last year they had two tough
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: games Ohio State Notre Dame lost in both. This year
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: they had two tough games Oregon, Penn State. They did
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: grade at Oregon. Now they go to a wounded Penn State.
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: They're gonna go through two seasons with two tough games
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: so far. It's crazy. It's crazy. And obviously with their
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: FBS exclusive out of conference schedule nuts. I did a
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: forty five minute breakdown today on juck on Bucks about
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: what we're about to talk about, complete with highlights and
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: all sorts of jazz. But Ohio State's making some big
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: time recruiting moves, particularly on the defensive line, and I
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: thought maybe we would just kind of run through a
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: couple of the prospects and what's going on with these guys.
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: While I have these pictures loaded up from earlier for
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: those of you who have not seen it, and if
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: you want to see some highlights of these guys, you
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: can go check it out over there before we move on.
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: But let's just kind of run through here. So this
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: is Nick Letore tight end out Elebanon and he's six
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: foot five two, twenty five three star tight end and
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: Ohio kid. Obviously, Keenan Bailey lost Corbyn Fordham after he decommitted,
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: and Corbyn Fordham decommitted flip to FSU, which is just
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: a strange decision even though he is a legacy Mike
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: Norvell probably going to get fired at the end of
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: the year. But Keenan's been pursuing Max Sutter really hard,
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: and Max Sutter the Alabama commit, great tight end. It
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: has seemed like a real long shot, and uh, he's
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: not been given up, but didn't want to offer one
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: of these Ohio kids until it was you know, god
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: of a last second, you know, But it seems like
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: now's the time and Nick Latour I believe will be
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: at the UCLA game. I think he's probably gonna get
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: an offer, and he's a Louisville commit. I think he'll
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: probably flip, so I think Nick Latour probably ends up
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: in the class Legend Bay a Tennessee commit. An incredible
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: athlete who is just ridiculous. Five foot nine point eighty five,
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: a blue Chipper Forny, Texas. The guy's electric. He's one
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: of those highlight tapes you watch and just kind of
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: your jaw drops. But he's small, and it's like, you know,
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: Hasty's had guys like this at times, not really known
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: how to utilize them to the best of their ability.
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: And it does seem like programs with lesser talent are
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: better at utilizing guys like that. But nonetheless, Carlos Lachlan
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: offered him over the summer, didn't really pursue him, didn't
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: really pursue him. He commits to Tennessee and comes in
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: on a secret official visit last weekend. Doesn't tell us
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: Tennessee he's coming, so he comes. I talked to him,
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: amazing visit, he loves it. Seems pretty likely unless Tennessee
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: comes with some big bucks, and I don't think they will.
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: They want to play him as a receiver, and on
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: their receiver board he's lower priority. You look at Ohio State,
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: the running back room looks pretty clear that next year
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: you're roll into the season with Isaiah West and Bo
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: Jackson as your top two. Where does that leave your sophomores?
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: You got two sophomores, you know, what do they do now?
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: They've been jumped by freshmen? Usually that leads to some
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: exploration of the portal, and in that case, the book's
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: got to cover their butt. So they're in one another
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: back or two to join favor a key. And it
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: looks like Legend Bay might be one of those backs.
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: If that's the case, that'd be pretty slick. I like that.
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: I like that kind of party obviously. Kevin Brown we
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: talked about last week. Kevin Brown at one point was
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: a five star kid out of Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, Penn State commit.
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: Did not want to go anywhere. I wanted to stay
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: with Penn State. But Joe Troutwine, the offensive line coach,
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: he trusts him, and Joe said go look, or Phil
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: Troutwine said go look. And he went to West Virginia's
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: dad's alma mater. Middle of last week. Things went great.
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: Had to be talked in to come into his visit
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: to Ohio State over the weekend, which he did, and
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: he loved and now it looks like probably not going
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: to end up at Penn State, going to be West
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: Virginia or Ohio State. And if it happens that he
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: ends up with Ohio State. Now you're looking at three
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: blue chip lineman with Sam Greer a five star, Max
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: Riley and Kevin Brown two top one hundreds, and then
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: Landry breed in Tucker Smith out of Arizona. Like, that's
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: an amazing first class for Tyler Bowen. Moving right along,
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: we've got Rembert. Now this is the project that James
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: Laurenitis is looking at out of North Carolina, I'm sorry,
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: out of Georgia Caleb Downs High School actually, and he
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: is like, you know, the thirteen hundred rank player in
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: the country. But look at that size there six five,
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: two hundred pounds and he moves, he's fast laterally looks
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: kind of like a deer with his legs. Right now,
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: he's got to put on some mass. That's that's clear.
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: It's a multi year project. But he's only got an
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: offer from Wake Forest. It's only P five offer and
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: he's committed to Wake Forest. He'll be in to visit
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: for the UCLA game. And by the way, that's a
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: night game if you haven't heard, which is fantastic. We'll
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: talk a little more about that game in a few
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: but fantastic for recruiting and fantastic for what the Bucks
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: are trying to do here, as they got a lot
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: of guys that are going to be in town that day.
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: But this guy is James Laurenitis is apparently the only
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: one that sees it. Man, he's the only one that
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: sees it, which kind of makes me excited because you're
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: gonna bet on anybody to take in I like that
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: and turn him into something like I'm gonna take this
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: raw material and make him into something fantastic. Six foot five,
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: two hundred you can't teach. So it makes me kind
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: of curious and excited that we'll have to wait a
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: long time for the payoff on that one. Obviously, you
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: trust James Laura and it's more than anybody else to
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: do something like that. Then we got Jay Timmins, who is,
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: as you can see right there if the top look
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: at Rivals there the number two cornerback in the country
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: per Rivals, which is certainly exciting. Jay Timmins is lawyer Timmins.
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: He was a linebacker for the Steelers. It's his son,
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: which is why he lives in Pittsburgh five ten and
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: a half, one eighty five. And he is a pretty
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: electric corner who was committed FSU, still is committed FSU.
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: He came and visited and all signs are pointing to
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: this is gonna be a buck eye. When we look
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: at the cornerback room, it's a room that is a
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: couple of players short, a couple of bodies. Sure, it
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: needs numbers, which means in the era of a budget, right,
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: you've got a certain amount to spend on every room
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: to keep your numbers, which means there is more allocated
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: budget to go to guys. You got to have them,
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: you need, You need some corners here and all. That
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: sounds really good. And I believe that he is going
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: to end up in the class. And if he does,
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: now you've got a pretty pretty beastly class with Jordan
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: Thomas and him, Like those are two pretty electric studs,
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: So that would be pretty awesome. So what are we
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: at here? Man? If you end up with Kevin Brown,
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: and you end up with Legend Bay, and you end
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: up with Jay Timmins, you're gonna have three more Blue
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: Chippers in the class. That's drank ninth in the country.
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: Now moving on this one out of nowhere. Emmanuel Ruffin
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: six three and a half two ninety out of Bessemer, Alabama,
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: another Blue Chipper, top two hundred defensive lineman. And this
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: is a kid who the Buckeyes were pursuing. And then
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: when he set his commitment date, he was down to
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: Ohio State and LSU, and neither Ohio State and LSU
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: wanted to commitment anymore. Why the Bucks backed off. They
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: had moved on cam Brickles with their eyes were on
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: at that point, and they went ahead and took the
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: commitment of cam Brickle. He went ahead and delayed his
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: decision and then ended up committing to Colorado. He since
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: decommitted from Colorado this week. Was supposed to be at
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: Ohio State last week didn't come, which made me think originally, well,
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: sounds like it's nonsense. He said it was a dad,
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: a ride from his uncle or something was the issue.
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: But apparently that's not the case, and he definitely wants in.
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: And now the buck Eys, based on his senior film,
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: really like what they see. I always liked what I
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: saw from him on film. So that would be really exciting.
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: And then we would be looking at the interior of
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: the Ohio State defensive line in this class of twenty
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: twenty six with Damari Simeon, who's your blue chipper, Jamir Perez,
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: who's your massive one? Tech from Glenville Ruffin, who's your
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: big I mean also he's kind of in between. And
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: then Cam Brickle down at IMG, who is, you know,
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: kind of a project guy, but he's got some twitch
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: to him. Not played much this year at IMG. I
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: think he's recorded about seven tackles. He's not starting, so
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: it's not it's not been going great, but you know,
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: with four of them, that's excellent. But it doesn't end there.
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: It does not end there. As They also are talking
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: to Jimmy Frisco alis Olufu and he is a three
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: star North Carolina commit at six four, two sixty. He
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: plays at Katie, Texas at defensive end, and he is
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: super productive at defensive end, like seventy tackles a ton.
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: He is slow footed, very slow footed, but very very strong.
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: So he is definitely an interior guy, no doubt about that.
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: But it's kind of striking. We're looking at some of
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: these guys. Obviously, you know dra Quinn is your classic
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: defensive end. But now JJ Finch on the board as well,
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: as he's been offered JJ Finch and Alabama commit out
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: of Warren High School, Indiana, a three star kid who
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: I don't really agree with, but he is right on
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: the borderline at four sixty en and overall, this is
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: a Blue chipper to me. At six three, two seventy six,
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: this is a massive defensive end and he is a bad,
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: bad dude, twitched up long arms love him obviously. That's
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: why Alabama went up into Indiana to get him. Also
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: came down between Tennessee and LSU, so they were after
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: him hard. Wyohia State wasn't after him earlier on. I
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: have no idea, but they're after him now and he
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: seems receptive to it, and he's coming in for a
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: visit as well. And then you've got obviously dre Quinn,
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: who is kind of your classic stereotypical defensive end frame
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: at six three and a half two twenty five. He's long,
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: he's quick. Kid out of Georgia again, a four star
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: Blue chipper at three sixty six overall. Decommitted from Clemson,
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: Texas was his runner up, and now it's between Texas,
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: Tennessee and Ohio State. Obviously, we know that Texas and
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: Tennessee pay a lot of money for their recruits, much
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: more than Ohio State. But kid was committed to Clemson,
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: and Clemson doesn't throw around money like that. So maybe
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: it makes you think, all right, maybe that's not his
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: top priority. Who knows, but Ohio State's made a really
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: good impression on him. But when we look at some
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: of these larger defensive ends that are kind of in
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: the flow here, you know, you can think, all right,
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: you got Matt p running some three to four. Maybe
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: beefing up the defensive ends is what he's trying to
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: do here. At any rate, it doesn't appear that Ohio
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: State is trying to push anyone out of this class,
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: rather just make it a bigger defensive line class. And
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: when you look at the defensive line next year, if
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: Kenyatta Jackson keeps playing like he is right now with
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: his traits, his draft stock is going to be sky high.
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: Kaden Curry out of eligibility time alone, out of eligibility
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: after year, So what are you looking at there? You've
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: got Atkinson Hicks Zion, Grady Logan, George Dominic, Kirk's Episitani
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: lay at end. Inside You've got Will Smith, Jarques Carter,
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: Jason Moore, Edrick Maxwell, Riley, Eric Mensa Max, I say
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: Trajan odum, So I think they're gonna be trying to
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: be you know, and who knows if all those guys stay.
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: Josh Mickens, for instance, I believe he probably finds his
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: way out out of Ohio State. I can't see him
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: sticking around. But they're gonna be trying to load up
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: here on this defensive line is the point here, and
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: I love it. I think it's the perfect thing to do.
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: You know. They talked originally when the number expanded, you
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: can go up to one oh five and it's like,
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: all right, well we're only gonna go to ninety and
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: it's yeah, okay, it's easy to say that. And then
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: when you find guys that you want, you know you're
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: going to creep up over that number for sure. And
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: I think that's what we're going to see here in
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: this class. So I love it. You might get the
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: thirty guys when it's all said and done. But of course,
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: as you know, I'm a I'm a recruiting guy. I'm
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: not I like portal guys, but I'm more of a
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: recruiting guy. Oh my gosh, what did you say? Where
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: are you at, Juck? Can we find that irritating IU
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: fan from JR Show last year? I don't know. Me
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: and j R fell out, man, We fell out hard.
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: I don't talk to j R anymore at all. Ben,
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: there's our guy. Thanks so much for joining us here
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: at Buckeye Huddle, And we got a super chat from
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: Paul Moss Ever thought about doing a segment on legacy
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: players and their sons recruitment and maybe why no major
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: interests from OSU kids like Mason Wilhelm and the Bellisuri
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: boys here in Ohio. Hey, Paul, I'll tell you what.
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: I'll write it down and we'll see what's up. We'll
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: see what's up. Mason Wilhelm I thought would have been
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: really cool to get in this class. I mean, you know,
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: he was a borderline. But at the same time, there's
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: a whole lot to be said when a kid wants
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: it that bad and he's a legacy and I thought
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: there should have been a spot for him. That That
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: was my That was my position. But you know, whatever, juck,
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: you're gonna have Sam on the show. Isn't he a
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: Michigan fan? Guy is pretty objective. He is a Michigan fan. Actually,
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: he is a Michigan student. He goes to school at Michigan. Still,
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: so yeah, but very objective. He's also an Ohio State fan.
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: He is the only Ohio State and Michigan fan I've
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: ever known in my life. I don't want to say
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: he's an Ohio State fan. He says to me, I honestly,
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: I root for Ohio State when they play. He roots
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: for Ohio State. If they're playing Oregon or in Texas,
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: he's rooting for Ohio State and not for the Big
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: ten or And he just likes Ohio State. I know
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: it's strange, but it's true and you can see it
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: and how he talks. So anyway, yesterday at Ryan Day's
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: press conference, he was bombarded with Julian Sang questions obviously,
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: and there was a question about awards, to awards matter,
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: Heisman Blitani cough everything, and he says, oh, yeah, they
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: definitely matter. Everything matters, and I love it when he
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: says everything matters and does. But then he was talking
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: about how are you going to handle a game when
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: you have a big lead with Julian and this Heisman race,
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: what are you gonna do? And he said, if we're
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: in a game and we're playing the football game, we're
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: just gonna play to win the game. That's it. And
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: that's clearly his mantra. It's been his mantreal year, win
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: the game, win the game, win the game, individual honors.
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: He said, we'll show up at the end of the
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: season if they just do what they're doing, as we
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: can see, and that's part of the unselfishness and that's
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: all part of this. When the game is a team
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: and when you do this, these things happen. You see
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: guys start getting attention, which is well deserved. But we
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: all got to stay focused on what matters most. Anytime
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: we get focused on anything other than that, it becomes
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: a distraction. So we can't do that. We have to
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: continue to work and master the process. All right, I'm
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: with him there. But if you've got a thirty five
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: point lead in the middle of the fourth quarter and
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: the game is one missions accomplished, right, you won the game.
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: If you also have a guy up for the Heisman
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: in a hotly contested Heisman race. You know, maybe you
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: try to help him out a little bit by maybe
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: one more possession, You go a little more aggressive than
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: you might have otherwise done. Is this his public answer.
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: We'll see. We'll see what happens in these next couple
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: of games. I don't think it has to be a
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: team distraction at all. It just got to be in
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: your head as the coach. You know, I'm gonna give
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: him one more like he doesn't really need to let
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: it influence any decisions, just the end of the game.
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: You know what, you know, most coaches have a list
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: of things they want to accomplish at the end of
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: the game when the games in hand that don't relate
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: to winning the game right like the game is one.
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: It's just that over. You got a list of things
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: you want to do. You want to see what TJ.
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: Alfred looks like in the RVL role. You want to
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: see what gave Van Sickle looks like at guard. Ryan
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: Day often been fairly criticized for failing to get valuable
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: reps for young guys by leaving the starters in so long,
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: which bodes well for Julian here in this It would
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: sure be ashamed all of a sudden see him start
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: pulling him, which was in the question like I know
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: you got to give Lincoln reps. I'm thinking, what the
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: hell are you talking about Lincoln reps? But I don't know, man,
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: Julian so close. I think he's so close to this thing.
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: It's probably gonna come down regardless of the Big Tenchampionship,
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: no matter what happens from here until there is so
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: long as Ohio State beats Michigan and he isn't out
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: in a race. Luckily, with anybody who's far out in
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: front compiling a bunch of touchdowns or a bunch of yards,
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: it's all relatively close. And the only stat that is
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: really standing out between these Heisman contenders is Julian's ridiculous
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: completion percentage, and like we talked about the other night,
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: his insane long ball completion percentage, which is about seventy
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: five percent to the next guy's fifty eight, which is
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: just the most bizarre statistic there is in the entire season.
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: That is, honestly, at any position, there is not a
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: single guy who is standing out that different in any
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: area like that. That's just bizarre. I think that along
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: with Ohio State winning the Big Ten championship sews it up,
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: and you know it's a team award. It really is,
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: it has been for a while. You got to be
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: you look at the top four guys. It's the four
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: best teams, so the quarterback on the four best teams,
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: which makes it a team award. But style points they
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: don't matter in the new playoff era at all. They
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: do matter with the Heisman, and somebody brought up the
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: Lincoln thing, which was hilarious. Somebody brought up James Peoples.
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: James People's had a really good run, the best run
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: I thought of his career last weekend against ben State.
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: When we look at the running backs, what are you
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: gonna do here? You've got people who he said, is
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: practicing better. Isaiah had I think one of the probably
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: his best run too. Isaiah had a fantastic run, a
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: fantastic run on zone where he cut it up the
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: A gap which was not the design hole really and
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: it was just gorgeous. But it was a beautiful run.
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: It was physical. They both broke tackles, obviously, bo had
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: a great run. It's so tough to me to figure, like,
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: what do you do here in the playoffs? Here like,
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: you got to get West more carries. He's got to
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: get more carries before the playoffs start, because you're gonna
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: be leaning on him a little bit more, i'd imagine.
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: And are you going to be playing four backs in
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: the playoffs? I just can't see that happening, So be
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: interesting to see what happens there. I'd like to see
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: that shrink down now that you have just such few
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: games left. The band tradition, the band tradition got moved
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: to last week where the band came and was it
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: two weeks ago? Band came in and you know, into
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: the woody and messed around with the guys. That used
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: to be a tradition the week of the game. And
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: he talked about that. He said, he's just trying to
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: make that week as normal as possible, you know, keep
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: the extra things away from that week. And normally, you know,
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: I would be against any kind of tradition changing for
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: that week, but clearly things aren't working, so whatever the
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: hell you want to change, change it up. But you know,
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: it's a cool tradition. It doesn't quite hit the same
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: the week of the Illinois game in the middle of
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: the season to me, But yeah, switch things up for sure.
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: Switch things up the Buckeyes so far, this will be
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: their third night game here with this UCLA game, and
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: they'll start at seven thirty. By the way, the Perdue
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: game starts at one tony. Are you there? Have you
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: told me why this game starts at one tony? Why
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: is it starting at one? Also, if you're gonna watch,
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: why don't you produce the show for me and pull
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: up the comments or something. I would do it for you.
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: Here we go. Now, what we got is a top
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: five uniform matchup here with UCLA in Ohio State. Will
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: the Buckeyes be wearing their regular uniforms? I got a
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: little tip off today that says they will not. They
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: will not be wearing their regular uniforms Ucla. You know
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: what would be great if UCLA and Ohio State we're
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: wearing their colors color on color. And you know all
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: you need to do for a color I looked this up.
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: All you need to do to play a color on
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: color matchup is for the away team to agree and
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: for the conference to say that there is enough contrast
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: between your two color jerseys. Obviously UCLA is blue, Ohio
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: State scarlet will pass the bar which of course, also
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: means that Michigan and Ohio states colors would pass the
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: bar in Ohio State and Michigan could play Color on
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: Color every year, just like UCLA and USC Do you
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: know they do that. It's the most beautiful game all year.
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: Obviously they play in two pretty stadiums. The weather looks great,
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: and those two uniforms just beautiful. Of course. Nico makes
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: his return. Nico makes his return a year later from
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: the scene of his destruction knocked him out the last
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: game he ever played at Tennessee. Two broken helmets, and
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: he came in leading those Tennessee volunteers, and boy have
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: things changed since then. His volunteers took their third loss
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: over the weekend in the game that it was Dark Mode,
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: got a bunch of Tennessee fans saying they want to
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: fire Josh Heipel. I showed some clips of that dark
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: Mode game the other the other day there, I think Monday,
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: But this is what the uniforms looked like at Tennessee
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: and at Nebraska they did a dark mode game as well.
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: They had those black uniforms. You could see. They painted
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: the end zone look up top, painted the end zone black.
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: They painted the end black. The sidelines. I mean, they
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: went all out, which was just beautiful, and it was
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: just kind of ironic as I'm looking at that and
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: seeing all these Twitter clips come out that Ohio State
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: also had a blackout and what did Ohio State do?
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: I mean, obviously Fox limited what they could do because
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: Fox in Big Noon made it happen during the day,
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: and then Ohio State essentially told fans to wear black
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: and told the guys to put on their black under armour,
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: right like, that's what happened. That's what they did for
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: the blackout compared to what those guys did for the blackout.
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: And I bring that up because this segment is about
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: an interview that Ross Yorke just did talking about some
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: of the things that he is doing and how things
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: are going with the stadium initiatives that we talked about
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: at the beginning of the year. And I honestly thought
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: that Ross would surprise with black uniforms. Like, honestly, when
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: you talk about atmosphere and you talk about energy, like
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: this is the lowest hanging fruit there is. You want
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: to fire people up, man, do the uniforms. Do the
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: uniforms give the guys the black, let the people see
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: the black give old fuddy duties like me, the heritage stripes,
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: like you want that, like that. That's as easy as
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: it gets, man, so easy. But they're ignoring it until
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: this Saturday. I do believe that this Saturday, I'm sorry,
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: the UCLA Saturday is going to be a scarlet out.
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: I think the guys are going to be wearing they're
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: all scarlet jerseys, just as they were the last time
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: Nico and Tennessee came into town. So we'll see if
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: I'm right about that or not. But I do believe
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: that's going to happen. But you know, my issue is,
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: if you're going to wear the all scarlets or you're
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: going to wear the all grays, why are you never
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: wearing the blacks that everybody loves? Right? I talked to
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: enough Buckeye fans to get a gauge on who loves what,
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: and it's clear, no doubt about it, in my unscientific
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: polls that the majority of people like the blacks the most.
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: But we never see him even in a blackout. It
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: makes no sense to me at all. But a week ago,
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: Ross does this interview, does this interview with twenty four
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: to seven buck nuts and Will Smith Junior is doing well.
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: I want to see if Tony pop beck and it
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: tell me when this game started? Did Tony pop in? Guys?
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: Where's Tony? Oh? You must not be listening? How about that?
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: Anyway we could go? Ross does this interview answers a
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: plethora of questions and a plethora ofugh topics about the
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: atmosphere and the stadium upgrades, nil go big ten, private
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: equity and all that jazz and opinions on Ross Byork
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: so far early in his tenure from Ohio State supporters
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: have varied, I am you know. I like some of
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: the things he've done. He's done. I don't like some
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: of the things he's done he's done. I think a
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: lot of people criticize Ross for things that are not
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: totally his. His decision like it's a whole. He's the
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: face of a decision, and he understands he's the one
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: that's going to take the heat. I've criticized, well, the
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: twenty million dollar comment. I certainly criticized him about that,
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: but he obviously knows that he's screwed up with that one.
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: The team didn't like it. Ryan Day didn't like it.
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: They didn't like hearing about it all year. Obviously fans
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: did not like hearing about it all year, and that
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: was you know, that wasn't oversight. He won't do again.
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: But when we talk about stadium and we talk about
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: stadium atmosphere, this is something that I absolutely love that
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: they've took the taken the initiative to get involved with this,
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: and I love that they're willing to finally try something,
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: something to energize the Shoe for an average game because
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: it's long been overlooked. And when we just look at
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: the maintenance and just the actual structure, which you know,
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: to me, it's the most important building in the state
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: of Ohio, and the actual structure has been neglected. It's
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: it's historic, it's a century building. It's beautiful. The history
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: like what rivals that what seriously what rivals Ohio Stadium
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: architecturally as a historic building in the state. Nothing Mansfield Prison.
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: I bet Mansfield Prison has as much money put into it. Anyway,
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: not everybody has loved all the ideas that they've had,
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: and some of the things will end up being flops,
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: and that's great, but I applaud them for getting started
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: and immediately they assessed and decided some initiatives, and he
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: was asked how he thinks things have gone so far.
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: He says, constant energy and noise, not having a lot
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: of dead moments, by changing the script, changing when we
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: play music and the music we play, etc. I was
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: never interested myself in things like the production of the
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: game until this conversation came up. Like the game script,
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: when you play music, when you do advertisements on the field,
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: it's nothing I ever thought of. I just knew that, Okay,
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: this atmosphere at this stadium feels different than this. Why
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: is that never really thought to put it together. That's
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: when they play music. It's how often they got people
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: walking on the field for stupid advertisements and such. And
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: it's definitely better they've done away with a lot of
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: the advertisements. We'll make money elsewhere. One of the decisions
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: that was criticized a lot was relocating the band from
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: the South stands to the North stands to get rid
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: of the stands that the band was sitting on in
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: the South stands so that they can build their field
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: luxury boxes, nine of them with four hundred roomy comfortable
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: club seats on top. Ros says, those seats on top
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: have been sold, so they're all locked up. And then
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: the luxury boxes down low have been claimed as well,
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: and that's fantastic for them, they sold them. Other people
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: didn't like the construction project here. They thought it didn't fit,
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: doesn't look good. Another thing for the wealthy fans. It
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: was a lot a lot of what I heard, you know,
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: like why aren't you doing anything for everybody else? Et cetera.
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: You know, I would hope that just the ability to
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: bring more money in, then you can put more money
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: into the stadium. And when we talk about how do
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: you make how do you bring in that money? I
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: kind of got a little bit of a barometer, like
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: there's always some kind of compromise you have to do
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: when you add projects like added stadium or added seating
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: inside a stadium, and the athletic department is always going
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: to try to gain revenue. There's thirty six sports and
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: I you know, you only hope that when they choose
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: these plans from a planning perspective, they make sure that
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: it doesn't negatively affect the environment, that it doesn't stand
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: out like a sore thumb esthetically with the stadium, and
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: then it doesn't affect seating capacity in a major way.
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: Like to me, those should be the three most important
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: things the atmosphere, negatively poor esthetically or seating capacity. And
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: when we look at that project, I think that it
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: is minimal on those all those fronts. And some will
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: say the ground boxes don't fit esthetically. I actually actually
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: think it looks kind of cool myself. And the reason
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: I do is because I've never liked the amount of
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: distance from the end of the field to those stands
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: in the gray concrete. So if it's taking up the
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: area where some of that great concrete is, I'm all
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: good for it. I think what you give up here
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: is minimal in this project, and the other revenue driving project,
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: to me, is the perfect project, the nineteen twenty two club,
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: which is currently under construction. Russ said that we would
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: expect that Penn State to see some of the construction.
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: Let me know if you guys saw it. I wasn't
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: at the Penn State game. But this club is a
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: climate controlled club where you can eat and drink during games.
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: It's a restaurant. You can purchase a membership and also
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: go up there, you know, regular off days and have dinner,
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: et cetera. But this perfect, perfect, perfect perfect. It gives
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: fans of the opportunity to join the club if they
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: want to, creates a new revenue string for the athletic department.
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: And the best part is it's located in the bowels
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: of the stadium, which means it doesn't affect the atmosphere,
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: the aesthetics, or the seating capacity. It doesn't even have
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: a clear view to the field. You're just looking at TVs.
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: So this is basically just like an indoor spot that
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: people pay to get in. So that's a perfect project.
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: Go make your money there. Where do you spend the money?
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: We're about to find out. One of my concerns by
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: the way of moving the band was moving them away
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: from the students. I like them being together. I thought
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: that might negatively affect the environment. But when they did that,
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: they finally decided to make up the band and there
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: are five tiary speaker structures throughout the stadium amplifying the band,
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: which I absolutely love. So well done with that. More
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: banned throughout. Everybody wants more banned. I've always felt like
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: the victory bell was one of the coolest features of
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: the stadium since I was young. I like architecture. I
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: like gold stuff. That bell's just cool as hell. Man,
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: it's cool as hell. I think a lot of Buckeye
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: fans aren't even familiar with the bell, and I think
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: the highlighting that bell by ringing it to start the
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: game allows Ohio State to show off an awesome piece
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: of history inside the stadium. And I think it's another
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: way to honor a former Buckeye who's given a lot
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: to the university. About that bell, Ross was asked and
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: he said, it's another way to honor people, and we
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: can sprinkle in other sports in there as well. We
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: had Michael Redd, Clark Kellogg. We've also seen John Cooper
• 59:54
  Speaker 2: Penn State. We saw Urban Meyer rang the bell, which
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: was incredible. Love seeing that Shelley went, which was cool.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: One of the changes that pissed a lot of people
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: off was hang on sloopy. They announced they would be
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: moving that for me between the third and the fourth quarter.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: Why I don't know, but Ross said that lasted one
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: game and then they switched it back because it turns
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: out that actually works with how they wanted to do it.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: Ross said that after the first game, it became apparent
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: that sloopy between the third and the fourth was perfect
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: where it was. As for technology and structure upgrades, many
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: of wanted to see upgrades done with restrooms, concessions, audio
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: system TVs inside the stadium, the JumboTron, removal of unsightly
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: porta potties and dumpsters in the concourses, and much much more.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: And each of these areas has been neglected for a
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: very long time. When you visit another big time stadium,
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: it really stands out just how far behind Ohio Stadium is.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: And it's kind of unconscionable that the people who are
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: the stewards of this building have let it get like this.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: But you look at these other places and they've just
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 2: up kept it over the decades. And now it's not
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: this massive project, unfortunately Ohio State it is. It's a
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: massive project. Now what can we expect in twenty twenty six?
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: Ross said, in twenty twenty six, we will see a
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: new video board for baseball, softball, track, basketball, and how
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: about the shoe He said, quote, we will see some
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: technology upgrades at Ohio Stadium. I don't know if we
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: can get it all done, but we do at least
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: want to try to get the ribbon boards replaced, and
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 2: maybe maybe the North End zone scoreboard at its current location,
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: and then we'll look if there is another location for
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: the North End zone video boards. So the North End
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: Zone video board is just a small scoreboard. The ribbon
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: boards we like those because they you know that you
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 2: can light them up and and that's cool. But why
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: are they first on the priority board. Well, because you
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: can run advertisement on them. And as for the JumboTron
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: that everybody would like to see, you know, updated, modernized,
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: and rebuilt, he said, quote rebuilding and enlarging the South
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: End zone scoreboard, that would take a longer time to
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: do that. So that's his answer to that. So we're
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: scoring at home. We've got new scoreboards coming for baseball, softball,
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: track and field, basketball, and maybe the North End zone
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: scoreboard at Ohio Stadium, along with the ribbon advertisement boards,
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 2: which are obviously big revenue stream getters. And you know,
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: we don't know the budget. We don't know the budget
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: for any of this, but we do know that Ohio
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: Stadium needs more tender love and care than baseball, track, softball,
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 2: and basketball. Right. I think we could all agree on
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: that all of those sports did buy football, So maybe
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: you could delay those projects like a new scoreboard for
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: baseball and track and softball and basketball and go a
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: couple of cycles. Just pumping that money into Ohio Stadium.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: I would think, I would think that is maybe something
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: you might consider, but you know, no, dice. They're also
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: looking for a location to put a permanent team pro
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: shop in the in the stadium, as well as a
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: back of the house bay to load and unload. But
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: one of the things that I found a little puzzling
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: is Ross when he first noticed, first came and you know,
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 2: kind of was shadowing Jean Smith. One of the first
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: things he noticed and he talked about at publicly was
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: the location of the television trucks when they come to
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: broadcast the games. They've got a ton of crap. They've
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: got to have a place to, you know, get all
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: their juice and their satellites and everything. And he noticed
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: it and he thought it was, you know, kind of
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 2: an unsightly area to have, you know, the television. You know,
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: you walk up, you want to see the beautiful stadium.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: And he didn't like where it was located. Deemed it
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: as an eye sore. Well, he wondered if that could
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 2: be moved and it can, but this is a construction
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: project and this obviously costs money. Well, this project, interestingly enough,
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 2: has been moved to the front of the line. This
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: will happen right now in twenty twenty six. I appreciate
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 2: that Ross noticed this eyesore, right, nobody wants an eyesore
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 2: out in front of the stadium. But if I ask
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: twenty five Ohio state supporters and donors, what would you
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: prefer be priority number one? Money being invested in stadium
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 2: upcape and renovations that will actually affect the consumer, or
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 2: a new TV truck area being built? What do you
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 2: think they would say? I think we all know what
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 2: they would say. So don't really know why that's been
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: jumped to the front of the line, but you know
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 2: it's his project. How many bathrooms could you potentially redo
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 2: with the amount of money you're gonna take and do
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 2: the video boards at baseball track and field, softball truck bay.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 2: I don't know how many bathrooms could you do? I
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 2: don't know. I don't know any of this. I don't
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: know the numbers on this. All I know is that
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: it seems like the priorities should be the things that
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: people have been really irritated with for years at the stadium,
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: and I think the biggest complaint we hear about the
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 2: stadium's bathrooms people missed ten minutes of game time going
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 2: to the bathroom. Obviously, the stadium was bout one hundred
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 2: years ago and they didn't drink like people drink today,
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: so there's not as many bathrooms. But no questions about
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 2: the restrooms were asked to Ross. I did see him
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: on the Bobby Carpenter Show. I saw him on buck
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 2: Nuts two four seven. I don't know if you'd come
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 2: on with your boy, but I can tell you what
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: the first thing I would ask for Ros Buorke if
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 2: we could have a conversation, Maybe it would be maybe
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: he doesn't know. Maybe he doesn't know what happened in
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 2: two thousand and six. Maybe he doesn't know what happened
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 2: with our gray sleeves. Maybe he doesn't even know the backstory.
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 2: Maybe he doesn't know that some pencil pushing nerds from
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: Nike brought out this rollout of these crap sleeves and
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 2: we thought they would last three years and we'd get
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 2: switched back, and they've just been here ever since, and
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 2: nobody addresses it. But I'd love an explanation, man, I'd
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 2: love an explanation as to why it is that everyone
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: who loves Ohio State football minus a weird ten percent
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 2: wants that back, and somehow it never happens. I don't
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 2: get it. I don't get it. I think that would
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 2: be our first conversation, and that, for you and I
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 2: is our last conversation this evening. I do appreciate you
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: all so much. Let me make sure there's no superchets.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: There is there is a super chet my man, Ben
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: Vargo a couple uh. That was so Ben, I had
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 2: the smoothest exit right. I said that that would be
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 2: my conversation and this will be our last conversation. Like
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: I was, like, this sounds smooth. I'm gonna, you know,
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: cook right out here. We are an hour in six minutes.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 2: I appreciate you guys, but my voice starts to get
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Ben says, Chuck. I told
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 2: you about my high school rivalry with rivalry with south Lake.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: We had shirts that said I would have gone to
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: south Lake, but my dad didn't sell his soul. I'll
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: see if I can find a shirt and send you
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 2: a pick. Is there a special meaning about it? Where's
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: South Where's South Lake exactly? It sounds familiar. I'm just
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: drawing a blank. Paul, Thanks, Budy, appreciate the five. Let's
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: say we win everything again plus beat tea Ton. What
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: percentage that JJ sits out his junior year of football,
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 2: Hypothetically speaking, I think it's to none, man, honestly, I
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: mean I understand that there are people who would advise
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 2: him to do that, but he's just a guy who
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: wants to get better, and he knows he's gonna do
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 2: that by playing. And if he can continue to see
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 2: his game elevate and from year one to year two,
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: he knows he's going to get better year three. I
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 2: just can't see. He's also a huge competitor, and you know,
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 2: there was even people talking about if Heartline were to
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 2: go somewhere else, he'd leave with Heartline. I think he's
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: a fantastic teammate, everybody loves him. He's just I couldn't.
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 2: I would put it the percentage at very, very low,
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 2: just based on the type of guy he is. If
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: you could, if you could convince him to do that,
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 2: I would, I don't know, I would be really impressed
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: because it just seems like it goes against every fiber
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 2: of his being to me, just based on how he's wired. Like,
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 2: you know, you're not in their beaten lineman. You know
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: what I mean? Beaten lineman. Oh, south Lake Carrol beaten
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 2: lineman on the what do you call it? The bicycle
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 2: that puts out the energy output. So Ben's talking about
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 2: south Lake Carroll, that's right, Ben' sorry, I didn't realize
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 2: you're talking about the other day DFW, the South Lake
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 2: Carroll Dragons. This is brock Boyd's school and it's where
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 2: all the rich kids and former Cowboys players go. So
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 2: no wonder it's so good. Okay, I had no idea, Ben,
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 2: I had no idea that's the school it was. But
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 2: I talked to brock Boy's dad about South Lake Carroll
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 2: and all sorts of stuff. The other matter of fact,
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 2: I got a text today or a Twitter message from
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 2: Kristin Roberts, Nate Roberts mom and the Roberts family apparently Juckeyes.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 2: So she just wanted to let me know, which was
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 2: pretty damn cool, because you know, I love me some number.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: Nate Roberts is my dude, So that was that was
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: pretty cool. Shout out Roberts fam. Anyway, let's see if
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 2: we got anything else here that I got answer, Oh,
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 2: Lisa love the Smoky Ones, but we should at least
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 2: do one alternative season, Trent, what's up, buddy? Trent says
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 2: we need the Camo Unis against te Ton in twenty seventeen.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 2: Back oh the Land of Wolves ones. Ooh those are sharp, man.
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 2: I love the Land of Wolves ones that we were
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 2: against Penn State, the the darker ones at home. We
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 2: need our eleventh straight synchronized swimming, Natty and pistol it is.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 2: Rod thinks the luxury boxes are going to be a failure.
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 2: I mean, they're not a great way to watch a game,
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 2: but I don't know if that's the folks who want.
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 2: Oh here's why. Rod's says, the rich alums and boosters
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 2: in those boxes are gonna hate being that close to
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 2: the students. That's not a bad thought. Actually, yeah, they
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 2: didn't ask about the camp song, Trent. We didn't hear
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 2: anything about about the camp song. That obviously has not
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 2: been a hit. When the students rush the field, they're
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: gonna jump, They're gonna jump on the boxes and then
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  Speaker 2: off the boxes. Yeah, you're right, Emily, how has how
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  Speaker 2: has the camp song been going? Emily, the speakers are fantastic.
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  Speaker 2: I love the victory bell. Jason says, no more disrespectful
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  Speaker 2: college thing than for us to ring our victory bell
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  Speaker 2: before we even take the field to play. You. Yeah,
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 2: it's definitely. I mean if you look at it like that.
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 2: But the way I look at it as you watch
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 2: a Minnesota Vikings game, and the way they start it
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 2: is by blowing the you know, the big Viking horn.
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  Speaker 2: You know, teams have things like that's the official start.
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  Speaker 2: It's just a way to invite on a lumback, to
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  Speaker 2: get them on there and show something and make a
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  Speaker 2: production of it and to highlight it. And the fact
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 2: that it's named the victory bell, I get it, I understand,
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  Speaker 2: but it's not being wrung in honor of a victory.
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 2: It's just being wrung as a start to the show
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 2: and that in that instance. But yeah, we can also
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 2: we can also call it disrespect because we're about to
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 2: whip on that on that rear end. You know what
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 2: I'm saying, So is what it is. Yeahchoki, does the
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 2: TV construction require stadium construction or just groundwork? Just groundwork?
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 2: I bet it'd be easier than any projects that require
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 2: working in the stadium. Absolutely sure it will be. But
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 2: I mean there's a whole lot of stadium projects, a
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 2: whole lot of them. I'm sure it's not easier than
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 2: every one of them. You know, it's just it's just
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 2: the fact that it's just this one thing that he
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 2: happened to notice that all of a sudden has gone
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 2: to the front of the line that is really inconsequential
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 2: to anybody. Thanks, Woodies appreciated, buddy. Yeah, that would be
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 2: the worst year ever for JJ mozart Rod says Juck.
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 2: Not sure if you saw my previous content, but it's
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 2: not pronounced Lebanon. It's pronounced Lebanon, le Lebanon or so listen.
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 2: I was in when I was young. So Lebanon they
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 2: got a prison, right, I'm pretty sure they got a prison.
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 2: Is a prison town like Mansfield? Yes, they got a prison.
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 2: So I when I was twenty years old, I did
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 2: a year in prison Ohio State Reformatory for a fight
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 2: that went wrong. And you know, when you're in prison,
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 2: I was in Mansfield, you get to talking about other prisons,
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 2: and it was always pronounced as Lebanon to me. Anyway,
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 2: the bad old days for your boy Juxter. But yeah,
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 2: it was always pronounced Lebanon unless I'm thinking of the
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 2: other thing. So apparently that's the way they talked about
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 2: it then, But so there you go. Anyway, Appreciate you
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 2: guys so much. And h the voice is is getting
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 2: rough here, so I'm gonna call it a day and
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 2: I will talk to you guys. I think we'll probably
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 2: be doing a Wednesday afternoon show on Juck on Bucks
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 2: tomorrow and then we will. Yeah, I wasn't Shawshank, No,
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 2: I was shraw Shank wasn't still in action. I looked
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 2: at it every day right across the street, but it
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 2: was no longer in working order. It is a beautiful building,
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 2: but a very ominous site. Anyway, appreciate you guys, So
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 2: I will talk to you soon. Have a fantastic evening.
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 2: See you then,