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September 3, 2025 · The Hot Line w/ Jeff Graham

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[SPEAKER_14]: I'm Steve Kathan, a growing call for the release of all of the Jeffrey Epstein files.
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[SPEAKER_28]: And in Washington DC, Washington DC, Mayor Muriel Bowser says the district has a plan to keep working with federal agencies.
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[SPEAKER_04]: a presidential emergency.
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[SPEAKER_28]: Trump's crime emergency is set to end September 10th, but Bowser says the only way it could be legally extended is by Congress.
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[SPEAKER_14]: More than 100 survivors and relatives of victims of mains deadliest mass shooting are now suing the federal government alleging the army could have stopped one of its reservists from carrying out the attack that killed 18 people in 2023.
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[SPEAKER_14]: On the health watch CBS's Michael Wallace tells us some blue states are planning to take their own action on vaccine.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Siting the fireings and turmoil at the CDC, the governors of California, Washington and Oregon have announced their states will work together on vaccine guidance and recommendations.
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[SPEAKER_08]: In a joint statement, they say the CDC has become, quote, a political tool that increasingly petals ideology instead of science, ideology that will lead to severe health consequences, and quote, the CDC has lost thousands of employees this year, including its director recently.
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[SPEAKER_14]: The search is on for a wedding crusher who made off with a massive goody bag at a banquet hall in California.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Police in Glendale, California, say the uninvited guests stole an estimated $60,000 worth of cash, gift cards, and checks from a donation box meant for the bride and groom, Nadine and George Farahot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They've been busy calling their guests to cancel the checks and warning them to guard their banking information.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The culprit appears on surveillance video dressed in black.
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[SPEAKER_01]: least believe he spoke to an alleged accomplice through an earpiece.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They say the suspect was driven away in a black Mercedes SUV after a bride's made spotted him grabbing the goods and dashing out through a side door.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Deborah Rodriguez, CBS News.
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[SPEAKER_24]: Saturday to part-league cloudy and pleasant for our Wednesday to high up to 80, clear and mild tonight, the low 65.
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[SPEAKER_24]: Early sun gets wet at clouds of breezy day for Thursday with the occasional rain the high at 78.
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[SPEAKER_24]: Friday, period of rain, only in the morning for Watertown, though, the high 776, very leaked out of the java root 2 Saturday, cooler and breezy in the afternoon, the high just 66.
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[SPEAKER_16]: Now, AM-1240-WATN presents the hotlock sponsored by Herringers Contracting, the Roof People who call you back, LA Quarry, the destination for all your crushed limestone in the North Country, and Watertown Appliance, the proud studio sponsor for the hotline with Jeff Graham.
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[SPEAKER_22]: OK, Jeff Graham here on the hotline.
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[SPEAKER_22]: What a beautiful sunny day, a Wednesday today.
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[SPEAKER_22]: Again, we're up near 80 degrees.
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[SPEAKER_22]: As a summer weather continues, it's technically still summer, so I guess it should.
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[SPEAKER_22]: Just in an announcement, the 100 block of East Lind Street, that's right over by BJ's Tavern.
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[SPEAKER_22]: And that might be closed down today, they're doing some work on the water lines here.
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[SPEAKER_22]: So be aware, and there might be a service interruption, too.
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[SPEAKER_22]: So, but they still got beer at BJ's tavern, so that don't worry about that.
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[SPEAKER_22]: And we've got a special guest today, his name is Doug Osborne, running for Council.
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[SPEAKER_22]: How long is sir?
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[SPEAKER_11]: Good, Jeff, thanks for having me.
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[SPEAKER_22]: Good, good.
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[SPEAKER_22]: But I had to have you.
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[SPEAKER_22]: Well, Mr Osborne, I don't know the primary was so long ago.
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[SPEAKER_22]: We older people forgot.
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[SPEAKER_22]: Well, then you finished third, right?
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[SPEAKER_11]: Yep, that's correct.
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[SPEAKER_22]: You were pleased with that?
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[SPEAKER_22]: Um, well, I did.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, I mean, I'm happy I was able to make it through and that,
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[SPEAKER_11]: the voters gave me another opportunity to move forward and talk to them.
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[SPEAKER_22]: But you said that you did some research and a lot of times a third place finish or does move up.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, I mean, I got a couple of statistics.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I saw that there was maybe three or four contests where the number third person ended up coming in either second or first, depending on what there was primary.
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[SPEAKER_22]: Including four years ago.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Yes, right.
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[SPEAKER_22]: So it does happen.
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[SPEAKER_22]: And yeah, let's see, you were about 120 votes off of second or 10 votes.
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[SPEAKER_22]: Yeah, so it's pretty close.
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[SPEAKER_22]: And you got a bunch of groups you, you can make it up from the shore of voters, the burns voters, the material voters.
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[SPEAKER_22]: and the people who didn't vote at all who will vote in November.
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[SPEAKER_22]: So is that the target basically?
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[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, I'm hoping to talk to all of them.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Actually, I'm using the walking list from the General of 2023 election and just kind of cross-refercing with the primary list from 2023.
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[SPEAKER_22]: Okay, all right, and what's great?
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[SPEAKER_22]: First of all, for those who haven't met, you tell us about yourself.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I'm a probation officer, I've been a probation officer for a year and some change now, prior to that.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I was a child protective service case worker for roughly seven years.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I graduated from the University of Albany with a degree in public policy and administration.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I interned at
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[SPEAKER_11]: city hall in the planning department.
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[SPEAKER_11]: While I was in college, I also interned at the governor's regional office in the water town.
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[SPEAKER_11]: This might third time running for a year or so.
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[SPEAKER_22]: Third times of charm.
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[SPEAKER_11]: That's what they say.
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[SPEAKER_22]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_22]: Well, that's great.
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[SPEAKER_22]: And, of course, you live here in town over on Richard Strath.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_22]: You got cats, right?
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[SPEAKER_22]: One cat, one cat and a wife and a wife.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_22]: Beautiful.
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[SPEAKER_22]: Very beautiful.
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[SPEAKER_22]: Yeah, works over at community bank.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Yep.
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[SPEAKER_22]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_22]: so obviously you decide to get back in you're doing better this time you're connecting with voters I mean why should people you got two front you know your garabrant monaco why should anyone who voted for any of these other candidates say well maybe I'll vote for Doug Osborne instead
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[SPEAKER_11]: Well, I think it's because one, I'm running for a third time because I'm determined to get the city back on the right track and I think that's what the majority of voters want.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Next, I have almost a decade in public service with some practical government experience.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I think that, I offer a lot, and I think that's what kind of sets me apart from the other candidates.
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[SPEAKER_22]: OK, I saw when I drove in here today, there's a sign.
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[SPEAKER_22]: the neighbor's house.
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[SPEAKER_22]: Yes Mr. Batista.
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[SPEAKER_22]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_22]: Well he's got an appointment today, but he wanted to me to ask you.
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[SPEAKER_22]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_22]: What are you prepared to cut in order to accommodate the pending fiscal cliff, if you will?
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[SPEAKER_11]: We have to look at all of it.
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[SPEAKER_11]: all of it, with a fine tooth comb, 24% projected tax increase next year is unacceptable.
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[SPEAKER_11]: So we're really going to have to look at making cuts, whether it's, you know, some jobs.
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[SPEAKER_22]: Police or fire or public work, so you want to cut some upper management, maybe?
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[SPEAKER_11]: We'll look at that.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I don't know about first responder stuff.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Definitely not police.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Definitely not fire.
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[SPEAKER_11]: That's those are public safety issues.
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[SPEAKER_11]: We need to keep that out.
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[SPEAKER_22]: There's like the federal government when you take out all the social security and medicare and all of that stuff.
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[SPEAKER_22]: There isn't much left to cut.
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[SPEAKER_11]: That's true.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I think I think we made a mistake or the council or the city made a mistake by, you know, voting on these wage increases for the upper management.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I didn't agree with that.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I thought it was kind of insult to injury.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Given that we had, you know, a pretty significant tax increase for sure alone.
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[SPEAKER_22]: So what did they raise them by?
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[SPEAKER_11]: I'm not sure what the percentage is, but I think they're a little higher than what we were last time around.
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[SPEAKER_22]: when I was mayor that you know it was just maybe one person who was the manager was getting up just over a hundred thousand and uh... now there's a lot of six for yourselves he i heard the other day that there are police officers who make more than the city manager with over time i don't know if it's true but i'm not that that's a possibility it could be i mean if you look at a every
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[SPEAKER_11]: Every $100,000 figure salary is 1% on the tax lobby, right?
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[SPEAKER_11]: Every $100,000 is 1%.
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[SPEAKER_11]: So, I mean, if you start looking at it in terms of that, you know, we got our work ahead of us here.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I mean, we're going to stop.
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[SPEAKER_22]: It's some point, somebody's got to say there's going to be a 24% proposed increase next April.
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[SPEAKER_22]: proposed increase and if we want to add to it to make it 24% we can.
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[SPEAKER_22]: But once he proposes it 24% all year left doing is cutting out pickup trucks and a couple vacant positions.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, and we're going to have to consider those things but also other things such as positions.
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[SPEAKER_22]: What about the
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[SPEAKER_22]: golf course I hate to bring it up versus the zoo that was discussed yesterday with the your opponent yeah he said in a in a in a decision between a zoo and a golf course he would take the zoo and get rid of the golf course do you agree with that?
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[SPEAKER_11]: No, no, first of all, the zoo has been there for generations.
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[SPEAKER_11]: It's been a cornerstone forever.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I'd like to see some changes when it comes to the zoo, especially for the Conservancy to be a little bit more transparent with their operations and their financial dealings.
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[SPEAKER_22]: What about the mayor's proposal for a reimagining of the park?
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[SPEAKER_22]: In other words, if the park, which is arguably the
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[SPEAKER_22]: most attractive thing the city has to offer people.
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[SPEAKER_22]: If it's going to be in attraction, you've got to have a panoply of activities and also promoting them all.
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[SPEAKER_22]: I don't see much being promoted.
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[SPEAKER_22]: But you've got to, you know, if it's pickled ball, if it's genus, if it's golf, if it's swimming, if it's zoo, if it's pecknicking, you've got to be able to promote all of that, or otherwise it's just a pastoral setting up there, isn't that you don't have anything to do?
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[SPEAKER_11]: Well, I think they are.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I think all these activities are being regularly promoted up there.
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[SPEAKER_11]: People are aware of them.
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[SPEAKER_11]: There's tons of activities that go on there all the time.
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[SPEAKER_11]: But if we go back to the zoo versus the golf course scenario,
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[SPEAKER_11]: Um, as I was looting to and it came to the zoo, I mean, we really need to address that issue.
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[SPEAKER_11]: We're not going to just close it down half-hazardly.
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[SPEAKER_11]: It's impossible.
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[SPEAKER_11]: There's a lot of logistics to that.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Um, so if, if it were to be close, we'd have to really,
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[SPEAKER_11]: put some things in motion and build a framework to do that.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I'm not saying we should do that.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I'm saying we have to keep that in consideration, but in the meantime, the conservancy also needs to figure out where they're going to draw other funding from.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I can't just continuously be either the county or the city.
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[SPEAKER_11]: They're going to have to branch out as well.
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[SPEAKER_22]: But who are these people?
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[SPEAKER_22]: Do you know who they are, even other than the doctor who's the front guy now?
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[SPEAKER_11]: I mean, are they conservancy?
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[SPEAKER_22]: everybody likes to be on boards.
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[SPEAKER_22]: I've discovered that over the years.
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[SPEAKER_22]: That's a big thing.
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[SPEAKER_22]: They talk about how many boards they're on.
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[SPEAKER_22]: And I just don't know why you know, it's so sacrosanct up there.
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[SPEAKER_22]: I mean, if I was to let the city run it as a downscale activity like I agree with Mayor Pierce on this.
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[SPEAKER_22]: We're imagining the
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[SPEAKER_22]: uh... you can use that to property for something but i'll tell you the mate the deferred maintenance by their own admission is gonna kill us the electrical costs starting in twenty thirty they're free now but won't be that uh... not to mention the general operational things i did i just you got something has to happen yet i think that's a perfect segue to go into the other part of this which is the golf course right like
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[SPEAKER_11]: The reason why we originally got out of the zoo business is because of those operational costs.
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[SPEAKER_11]: So I'm reluctant to take on those operational costs again.
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[SPEAKER_11]: You know, I'd still like it to have be in the Conservancy Control, but there needs to be a little bit more oversight on the city end too, and there needs to be a collaborative effort.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Now, transitioning over to the golf course,
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[SPEAKER_11]: I don't think we should be in the golf course business at all.
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[SPEAKER_11]: So, and we're taking on operational costs that we've never been on before.
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[SPEAKER_11]: So, I mean, we can't sell the golf course, but we can lease it.
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[SPEAKER_22]: But don't you need a permission from the state legislature?
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[SPEAKER_22]: I think you do.
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[SPEAKER_22]: It's parkland.
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[SPEAKER_22]: Now, unfortunately, when they acquired that, and this is what Ken mix wanted.
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[SPEAKER_22]: You sit in the manager.
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[SPEAKER_22]: You wanted more parkland.
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[SPEAKER_22]: So they declared it parkland.
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[SPEAKER_22]: So that means it's extremely encumbered.
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[SPEAKER_22]: as far as what you can do with it.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, I mean, you can't sell it.
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[SPEAKER_11]: But I mean, from the last, from the last, I'm going to the lawyer to tell you anything, but I don't know what's the case.
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[SPEAKER_11]: There was a work session not that long ago, maybe a few months back, where they were discussing the options for the golf course, if us running it wasn't feasible in the long term, and it's my understanding that the city manager had said he was exploring options and talking to folks that were interested in running it.
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[SPEAKER_22]: Well, tell us who they are.
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[SPEAKER_22]: Listen, that was the problem we got into the last time when the sale of it.
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[SPEAKER_22]: It was all a big secret thing.
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[SPEAKER_22]: Mums the word and all of that, NDAs and all of that.
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[SPEAKER_22]: I don't know if there is a magic person, but the economics don't change.
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[SPEAKER_22]: I mean, people like to say the golf course loses money.
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[SPEAKER_22]: Well, the probation department loses money too.
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[SPEAKER_22]: I mean, it costs money and you don't versus income.
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[SPEAKER_22]: So you could say that about any government.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, I mean, you're mixing apples and oranges here.
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[SPEAKER_11]: The probation department is a branch of public safety, of law enforcement.
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[SPEAKER_11]: That's different than like a commodity or like a hobby,
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[SPEAKER_11]: like golf is.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Right?
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[SPEAKER_11]: It's just, it's just not the same thing.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Like public safety is a public good.
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[SPEAKER_22]: Isn't swimming off of you or?
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[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, it is.
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[SPEAKER_11]: And I mean, I guess you can, it's not to the point that public, the way public safety is.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I mean, you have to kind of differentiate these things and, you know, prioritize them.
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[SPEAKER_11]: My priority is public safety at this point.
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[SPEAKER_22]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_22]: Would you have voted the S on the cannabis dispensary local law last night?
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[SPEAKER_11]: Probably S. Okay.
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[SPEAKER_22]: Why the mayor vote no?
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[SPEAKER_22]: I mean, she said on Jeff Cole show she was going to vote.
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[SPEAKER_22]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I can't speak for the mayor.
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[SPEAKER_22]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_22]: You go to the meeting.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, I go to the meetings.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I mean, I can't.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I'm not in their heads.
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[SPEAKER_22]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_22]: Do you think Millie speaking?
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[SPEAKER_22]: It's way to.
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[SPEAKER_22]: uh... I have no idea just struck me that way uh... okay well we've got other topics and we've got dug out as born here if you have a call give us a call at three one five seven five twelve forty and we'll put down here uh... meanwhile we got some commercials to do be right back
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[SPEAKER_22]: We're back back on a hotline today with our series of candidates.
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[SPEAKER_22]: Doug Osborne is here today.
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[SPEAKER_22]: We had Anthony go Velasquez yesterday.
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[SPEAKER_22]: He's back in school today.
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[SPEAKER_22]: And Peter Monaco was in tomorrow.
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[SPEAKER_22]: And then next Tuesday, Shane Garibrand.
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[SPEAKER_22]: And that gives you our sort of re-acquaintance tour here for the,
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[SPEAKER_22]: Council candidates, starsman, you said that people were still engaged even in the hot days of August.
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[SPEAKER_22]: Most people were wilting that on some of those days.
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[SPEAKER_11]: But I was too.
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[SPEAKER_22]: Yeah, I would do it on the side.
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[SPEAKER_22]: What are they saying?
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[SPEAKER_22]: I mean, other than I want a new phase, so you seem like a nice young man or whatever they say, I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I mean, they're concerned with a mirrored of issues and sometimes it depends on which section of town you're going in.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I started probably early in mid-August on the north side and a lot of their concerns are just the side, like a lot of their concerns are
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[SPEAKER_11]: Transcend all of the all the sections of town, but predominantly like the sidewalks during really, really rough shape.
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[SPEAKER_22]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I've heard a lot of folks really wanting to bring back the sidewalk program, which I'm not opposed to at all.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I'd like to see that back, or some variation of it.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, and then it's just, you know, the typical stuff.
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[SPEAKER_11]: And just, you know, spending lots of money on what a lot
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[SPEAKER_11]: I thought it was three.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I don't know where the fourth one came
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[SPEAKER_22]: Well, the fourth one is the one in Albany that's going to prosecute the case, and then there's Hancock and Esther Brook that are representing the city, and then you had Harris Beach where the provocateurs and all of this, and, of course, you got the bond, so I mean, you got four of this.
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[SPEAKER_11]: That's a lot.
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[SPEAKER_22]: I mean, how about a full-time corporation council?
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[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, I mean, I just think that this whole thing right now is like an attorney's dream.
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[SPEAKER_11]: You know, it's easy money.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I don't know why we've been going on so long.
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[SPEAKER_11]: on this ethics thing when I think it could have been handled.
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[SPEAKER_22]: But there's still going, yesterday, on again, I don't mean to give Jeff Cole publicity, my God.
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[SPEAKER_22]: But the mayor said, we got to go back to the lawyer, concerning this granting of privilege to Harris Beach.
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[SPEAKER_22]: We got to go back to the lawyers and talk about that.
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[SPEAKER_22]: Why?
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[SPEAKER_22]: It didn't pass at the last meeting.
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[SPEAKER_22]: And I think that was by design.
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[SPEAKER_22]: I don't know if you go to the meetings.
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[SPEAKER_22]: Yeah, I'd go like that for me.
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[SPEAKER_11]: That would just end it right there, and then the end of the year comes and, unless... I mean, this thing could have ended a month like a month after it was initiated.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I mean, there's nothing criminal against Cliff, it was ethics.
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[SPEAKER_11]: So if the ethics committee made a recommendation, there's no charges being filed, it's just... it's up to the council at that point to determine if there was any wrong doing or not, or anything on ethical or not.
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[SPEAKER_22]: But it started, and this has come out recently with some of these emails, with, in October of 23 letters written to the Attorney General and the District Attorney, you know pretty well.
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[SPEAKER_22]: And talking about a bribe attempt, in other words, there was that thing where the developer offered to contribute to people's charities, if they tell them were the meme pages.
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[SPEAKER_22]: The mayor said that was a bribe and somehow or other that morphed and there's some emails that Council has now, but they're under lock and key, which I understand to explain that transition that led to that situation where the state police come in here to Council meeting and we're demanding phones.
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[SPEAKER_22]: You know, you're a cop now, I saw you got a badge, you know, I'm not a cop, no, I'm not a cop.
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[SPEAKER_22]: Would you like for me?
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[SPEAKER_22]: That's terrible.
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[SPEAKER_22]: I never seen it, all my years, I never thought I'd say all my years, but I never did.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I think last time I was on the show we were talking about this, and I think it was a peculiar set of circumstances, I've never witnessed anything like that, either.
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[SPEAKER_11]: And I think it's just another thing that keeps our city council clouded in controversy.
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[SPEAKER_11]: And I really think that the residents, myself,
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[SPEAKER_11]: We all want to get past this whole thing.
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[SPEAKER_11]: We want to focus on the issues that matter to us, which is infrastructure, public safety, and ensuring everybody is just happy and healthy in this community.
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[SPEAKER_22]: Now, of course, the aggrieved parties feel that Ms.
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[SPEAKER_22]: Rejero said it last night when Dr. Kimball said something.
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[SPEAKER_22]: She said, well, you're not the one that was smeared.
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[SPEAKER_11]: when you go to the police and make a complaint you're trying to get somebody arrested you're not just looking for somebody to chastise and over an ethics violation or you're filing a report to put it on the record and see if there is anything criminal you know i don't know if necessarily be arrested or not that would be completely completely contention upon the investigation in this case there's nothing there's nothing while they didn't have anything that appear to be
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[SPEAKER_21]: maybe unethical but nothing criminal right okay well we got a call coming in so we got Doug Osborne here good afternoon you're on the air yeah the question for Mr Osborne I was wondering if you could explain why you thought voting for Harris was better than voting for President Trump I think this would give us a clear you know idea for you are if you can explain why you chose the
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[SPEAKER_22]: All right, well, I'll ask him.
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[SPEAKER_11]: This is another question that was brought up to me last time I was on your show.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I said I reluctantly voted for Kamala Harris.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I don't think that either candidate was the best that had to offer.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Mr. Trump had already had a term.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I mean, others can argue that, you know, her being the vice president under Biden would be an extension of his term.
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[SPEAKER_11]: That's fine.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I wanted to kind of see a different
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[SPEAKER_11]: you know administration i don't know if that was going to be the case or not i i mean what do you think of trump now trump 2.0 i mean is he there's some things that i think that i like that he's been doing there's something that i don't i mean it's like with everybody else that is uh... has been president okay i don't have to like everything that they do and i but you were registered as an independent yeah i'm registered as neutral no party why is that
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[SPEAKER_11]: I just don't identify with either mainstream parties at all.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I don't, I think both are extreme.
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[SPEAKER_22]: Mm-hmm.
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[SPEAKER_22]: Uh, the big election in New York is not yours.
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[SPEAKER_22]: It's the New York City Mayor Earl race.
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[SPEAKER_22]: Zauron, Mombami, looks like he's going to win by all the polls.
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[SPEAKER_22]: I mean, watch the vote for Cuomo, right, at this point.
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[SPEAKER_22]: And there's such scary in some ways.
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[SPEAKER_22]: I mean, what he has talked about over the years and I realize they'll gloss it over for the election.
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[SPEAKER_22]: But it's not just a free bus ride, it's the defund the police and we place in police with social workers and it's all that's all this stuff.
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[SPEAKER_22]: And what happens down there does affect the whole state in some ways.
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[SPEAKER_22]: Does it bother you that he's going to win?
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[SPEAKER_11]: I think it's concerning.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I don't agree with a lot of those stances or viewpoints.
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[SPEAKER_22]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_22]: Who do you think it'd be better down there?
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[SPEAKER_11]: I don't know, I'm focused on the North country.
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[SPEAKER_11]: OK.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I'm pretty removed from the, from the city.
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[SPEAKER_22]: Every time I see Cromos face it, just reminds me of 2020.
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[SPEAKER_22]: And I just, I can't roll for him either.
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[SPEAKER_22]: You're a opponent, Mr. Garibrand, builds himself.
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[SPEAKER_22]: And we'll ask him about it next Tuesday as the expert on hydro and the solver of the hydro dilemma.
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[SPEAKER_22]: You buy that?
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[SPEAKER_11]: This, I don't, I mean, I don't recall Mr. Garbant saying he's the solver of value.
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[SPEAKER_22]: Kind of presented is.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I think what he's been saying is that he speaks the language.
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[SPEAKER_11]: That's what I've been hearing him say, which, which, I mean, I think is probably pretty valid given that he was on the committee and is an engineer.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I honestly don't think there is a real solution to this thing other than, you know, either
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[SPEAKER_11]: a combination or all of the recommendations that the committee had set forth to try to make up the shortfall of that revenue that we're currently getting and they're still going to be a pretty significant shortfall.
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[SPEAKER_22]: Yeah, you've got concurrent problem with re-licensing that plant.
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[SPEAKER_22]: You've got people that interveners trying to protest against that.
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[SPEAKER_22]: And they're looking for a payoff, basically, but, um, yeah, the whole thing is, uh, and I, I like what you said.
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[SPEAKER_22]: You said there is no solution.
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[SPEAKER_22]: Everybody talks in terms of, oh, we need to go shit.
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[SPEAKER_22]: No, grid does not want to pay that anymore.
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[SPEAKER_11]: That's true.
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[SPEAKER_22]: I wish I had more time.
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[SPEAKER_22]: I talked about my grid bill.
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[SPEAKER_22]: I got yesterday.
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[SPEAKER_22]: But I won't talk about that now.
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[SPEAKER_22]: And I will tell you, beware of those new meters they put in by their own
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[SPEAKER_22]: they said you got double punched.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I've heard that, too, from quite a few.
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[SPEAKER_11]: In fact, I was, I tried to opt out and then they came and changed out my meter anyway, because I was concerned about it being a type of thing.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, but I haven't seen a real significant increase at all to be honest with you.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Mine's kind of state where it is.
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[SPEAKER_22]: But you're lucky they must like it because I've talked a lot of people who are in a different situation.
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[SPEAKER_22]: When we didn't bring you on to talk about Naimo, but Hydro, would you favor maybe selling the plant?
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[SPEAKER_22]: Get it one time in fusion?
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[SPEAKER_11]: No, no.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I think what we had heard coming out of that committee is that the Hydro plant is
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[SPEAKER_11]: incredibly valuable and it's we shouldn't sell it off.
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[SPEAKER_11]: So I mean, I'm going with that recommendation that we just shouldn't do that.
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[SPEAKER_22]: There's just except the fact that it's a nice thing but it's not never going to produce the cash cow that is contract with with greatest producers.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Well, maybe not right now but down the road, you know, I think there may be some potential for sure.
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[SPEAKER_11]: But it's not we're selling it off at this point.
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[SPEAKER_22]: We've got Peter Monaco.
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[SPEAKER_22]: Well, let's talk about your opponents.
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[SPEAKER_22]: I mean, obviously.
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[SPEAKER_22]: like the guy that was on yesterday, nobody wants to say anything nasty about anybody.
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[SPEAKER_22]: But on the other hand, you've got to draw comparisons and you've got to convince the voters that they should choose you over, say, let's take Mr. Garibrand.
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[SPEAKER_22]: Why should they choose you over him?
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[SPEAKER_11]: Um, I mean, they got, they have two votes.
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[SPEAKER_11]: So I mean, they could choose both of us if they wanted to wear any combination.
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[SPEAKER_22]: But that doesn't help you.
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[SPEAKER_22]: Is you're in third place.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I mean if they see that they like me matched up with Mr. Garbra or me matched up with Mr. Velasquez or me matched up with Mr. Monaco plus those that like me on my own you'll bully those all add up Well Is there one of the three you'd like to be paired with and have to work with on this council?
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[SPEAKER_22]: I mean obviously You're not oblivious to who they are.
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[SPEAKER_22]: I mean you know in January if you're
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[SPEAKER_22]: lucky enough to be elected.
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[SPEAKER_22]: You're going to get one of the other three and it's one of the three that would tickle your fancy more than the others.
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[SPEAKER_11]: No, I have no preference.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I respect, I respect the hell out of all those guys.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I think they all offer something unique and have interesting backgrounds.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I just happen to think that my background sets me apart from them.
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[SPEAKER_22]: Mr. Monaco, obviously long resume, institutional knowledge is what he tells, which he certainly has, an affable guy.
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[SPEAKER_22]: But if you think he's too much of yesterday's news, really?
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[SPEAKER_11]: No, I wouldn't say that.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I like the idea of institutional knowledge on council.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I think that would be beneficial.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I think Mr. Garerbrand with his
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[SPEAKER_11]: background and engineering would also be helpful on there.
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[SPEAKER_11]: And I think Mr. Volasquez brings an interesting perspective on, you know, with us teaching background.
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[SPEAKER_22]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_22]: Well, he said yesterday, he said it before, but he said it again yesterday.
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[SPEAKER_22]: He feels strongly about residency.
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[SPEAKER_22]: He made the obligatory statement that Mr. Wagner was a nice man.
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[SPEAKER_22]: And then he wanted to say, you have a much better feel for the community.
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[SPEAKER_22]: If you're living here,
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[SPEAKER_22]: those people in the Strauss walkway or the people who set up a tent yesterday and it was camping behind Pete's restaurant.
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[SPEAKER_22]: You go there, I think.
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[SPEAKER_22]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_22]: And you know the owner.
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[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_22]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_22]: And he made that argument about residency.
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[SPEAKER_22]: You disagree with that, right?
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[SPEAKER_11]: Yes and no.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I have concerns regarding it obviously.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I would like all of our
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[SPEAKER_11]: you know, administrative staff to include the city manager to live in the city.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I mean, it's been, you know, traditional that we've had a lot of our upper echelon of our staff live in the city.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Um, I think we're in different times now, but I don't want to create this moral hazard where we're incentivizing behavior that we wouldn't necessarily otherwise
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[SPEAKER_11]: multiple staff that live outside the city um if we need to replace those staff eventually down the road given the pool of candidates that we've waited for forever for an engineer we had to get out of it.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Louis County I mean
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[SPEAKER_22]: But isn't that the rub, I mean, and I hate to say it because somebody will say Mr. Composite's a nice man, and I saw my TV last night, and they truly probably is.
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[SPEAKER_22]: But he lives on the other side a lot of it, on the number four road, I think.
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[SPEAKER_22]: And when he goes home at night, you know, when there's
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[SPEAKER_22]: an enormous fire on temple street and they're struggling with water supplies or somebody gets killed on city property has happened this year and everybody was off somewhere at the lake and all these things are happening and everybody has already crossed the city limits sign by four thirty and the rest of us are sitting here we had a situation a week ago on the air and the manager called in and I asked about all these piles of debris were houses of burn like the one on west main
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[SPEAKER_22]: And he didn't know who put up the fence.
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[SPEAKER_22]: Well, the city put up the fence.
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[SPEAKER_22]: That's the argument I'd raise it in.
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[SPEAKER_22]: See that you're like, I know what's going on in town.
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[SPEAKER_22]: I don't have to take up police right around to find out what's happening.
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[SPEAKER_22]: You know, you live it.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Yes, and no, right, like I don't I don't think that Mr. Wagner is that far removed where he doesn't know what's going on.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I can't speak to the conversation that you had with him, whenever you had a, You sound America's favorite new-time track shows.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Oh, this one?
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[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Oh, okay.
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[SPEAKER_11]: But I think he's got a handle on what's going on in the area.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I have no doubt about that.
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[SPEAKER_11]: And I want to go I want to backtrack to the terms of residency situation though because I think I do want all of our workers to live in the city.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I know it's not realistic, but if we do get another city manager or another engineer or whatever when they decide that their terms are done, it should be back to where it was before, where it is a requirement.
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[SPEAKER_11]: It should be.
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[SPEAKER_11]: At this point, I don't want to destabilize the city because it's
42:31
[SPEAKER_11]: from what I've gathered so far in the folks that I've talked to, it seems like the current administration is pretty stable and they're pretty happy and morale is high.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I want to keep it that way, I want to keep us on the right track.
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[SPEAKER_11]: But we need to start considering about the future too, and when I brought up a moral hazard, where I'd want to incentivize this behavior, where
42:55
[SPEAKER_11]: You know, all our upper staff end up living outside the city.
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[SPEAKER_11]: That's problematic to me, given some of the, you know, some of the things that you've alluded to.
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[SPEAKER_22]: You were at the meeting where they debated that local law had a great exemption.
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[SPEAKER_22]: It's true.
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[SPEAKER_22]: and Mr. Velasquez brought it up yesterday.
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[SPEAKER_22]: I watched and it struck me too.
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[SPEAKER_22]: You had multiple city employees, many department heads getting up and saying, well, I live in Alex Bay and I think you should pass this on.
43:21
[SPEAKER_22]: I live in whatever Brownville, I think you should pass it.
43:24
[SPEAKER_22]: And I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_22]: It was kind of, maybe they didn't intend it that way.
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[SPEAKER_22]: They were just trying to help the boss.
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[SPEAKER_11]: But the Democrats is being political.
43:31
[SPEAKER_22]: The Democrats is being rude, is what it means.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Well, I didn't see it as being rude, per se.
43:36
[SPEAKER_11]: I think they were, you know.
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[SPEAKER_11]: i mean i sit there and i got a deal with the uh... i think i think they're coming across the street you know i get you i get you i think that they're coming across as you know they like their boss he's doing a good job i respect that um... i think he's doing a good job too
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[SPEAKER_22]: But I have them get another, he has no contract now.
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[SPEAKER_22]: His mind is standing is that contract was not valid because it violated the public office.
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[SPEAKER_22]: There's a couple of counsel people have told me that.
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[SPEAKER_11]: So I think it's in a limbo right now, or it's, it in a, there's some sort of extension going on.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I don't know all the legality to it.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I'm not going to sit here pretend that I do.
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[SPEAKER_11]: But, you know, why do we need a contract?
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[SPEAKER_22]: Why do we need a contract?
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[SPEAKER_22]: They didn't, Ron Forbes didn't have a contract.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I don't I don't have an answer for that.
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[SPEAKER_22]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_22]: Well, the reason is is because it gives them like automatic severance if they get can't.
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[SPEAKER_22]: That's the only reason for a contract is you're getting a payoff if they if it doesn't work out like Mr. Finn.
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[SPEAKER_22]: I assume got some kind of payoff.
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[SPEAKER_22]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_22]: I don't know what happened there.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I don't well, I'm not going to speculate anything.
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[SPEAKER_22]: I didn't.
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[SPEAKER_22]: Didn't know the man.
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[SPEAKER_22]: But after you do
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[SPEAKER_20]: I agree afternoon, Mr. Mayor, I'm enjoying your guess here, but as far as the residency of water counts, there should be a meal and address for water counts.
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[SPEAKER_20]: The city is limited, quite a bit.
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[SPEAKER_20]: I live in this, my address for water counts, but I live up to feet outside of the city.
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[SPEAKER_20]: So at least there's this kind of water count.
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[SPEAKER_20]: There's familiar with a water count address.
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[SPEAKER_20]: I was living in the city proper, it can't be difficult.
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[SPEAKER_22]: Well, I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_20]: But if they, I'm preaching to show and what you're doing.
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[SPEAKER_22]: OK, thank you.
45:32
[SPEAKER_22]: Yeah, I understand that.
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[SPEAKER_22]: And the boundaries we have inherited are kind of ironic.
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[SPEAKER_22]: In some cases, you know, the imaginary line, I call it.
45:42
[SPEAKER_11]: But yeah, I kind of agree with what that color is saying.
45:50
[SPEAKER_11]: You know, it's one thing if you are running for city council, you should live inside the city.
45:56
[SPEAKER_11]: As I was looting to before, if you're administrative staff, like the city manager, you should live inside the city.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I just, I think that's the case, but, you know, I think there can be exceptions to the rule.
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[SPEAKER_11]: This is one of them, but I don't want to see this exception.
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[SPEAKER_11]: You know, being exploited, consistently down the road when we go through city managers here and there.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I mean, if you live,
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[SPEAKER_11]: If you live in the town of Watertown, like what your caller was suggesting, you know, there should be some sort of radius clause or something like that.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I mean, it's something that, you know, we should use this as a precedent and then, you know, figure things out down the road for our next hire.
46:37
[SPEAKER_22]: Okay.
46:38
[SPEAKER_22]: Well, I'll throw the next stink bomb out there.
46:41
[SPEAKER_22]: I came up at yesterday's show and that is, we mentioned the,
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[SPEAKER_22]: Momsdami race, they're running in New York to be the chief executive officer of a city.
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[SPEAKER_22]: The person that you can blame if the snowplows don't do a good job.
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[SPEAKER_22]: Many other cities are strong mayor where you get to a likely person running things.
47:01
[SPEAKER_22]: Many counties are with county executives.
47:04
[SPEAKER_22]: Up here, there's a big, there's a sentiment that we don't want the public even to weigh in on that.
47:10
[SPEAKER_22]: And Mr. Velasquez says he would favor
47:13
[SPEAKER_22]: passing a local law that would put a referendum on the ballot in twenty six so people could vote on it doesn't mean it would happen but they could vote the people could vote on it and it'd be in a group of editorial election would be high turnout not like school board elections which are kind of a joke so what do you think of that letting the people vote on it i mean i'm not opposed to that uh... but i would highly recommend that people
47:42
[SPEAKER_11]: inform themselves of both forms of government, right?
47:46
[SPEAKER_11]: I mean, when you're talking about mandami earlier, you were just, you know, you rattled off all these like extreme stances that don't necessarily agreeable with the majority, right?
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[SPEAKER_22]: We don't know if you went there.
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[SPEAKER_22]: Oh,
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[SPEAKER_11]: the majority who voted for him, but not the majority who voted, or the majority of the residents in the city.
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[SPEAKER_22]: So, I mean, what isn't that up to interject?
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[SPEAKER_22]: We always talk about democracy.
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[SPEAKER_22]: If that's the case, the people who don't want that go out and vote, I mean, even there are alternatives to Momsdami and the people who don't throw it, I don't think don't, in my mind, don't really matter that much.
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[SPEAKER_22]: They didn't choose to participate.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, but they still live in the area and they're still affected by whatever policy decisions are going to be made, right?
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[SPEAKER_11]: I think that's, I think that's the problem.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I think if you concentrate that much power to somebody, and we'll continue to use Mundami as an example, a hypothetical here.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Constraint that much power in charge of the largest city in the United States.
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[SPEAKER_11]: And he says everything is free now, bus tickets, housing, everything is free.
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[SPEAKER_13]: Great.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Now what happens to everybody else?
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[SPEAKER_11]: What's those policies come to affect, right?
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[SPEAKER_11]: Well, I do.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I know what it is.
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[SPEAKER_22]: It goes out.
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[SPEAKER_22]: You still have to get by a city council, which granted that city council's far left, but rebel elected.
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[SPEAKER_22]: And right.
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[SPEAKER_11]: And then the mayor has in a strong form of a strong mayor, form of government.
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[SPEAKER_11]: The mayor has the ability to veto the council.
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[SPEAKER_11]: So, I mean, that's where I have concerns.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Well, where you have one person with all this concentrated power as opposed to five individuals that have equal say in a city manager that has to reflect on what council wants, that makes more sense to me than to have all this concentrated power into somebody that might necessarily...
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[SPEAKER_22]: the draw that comparison you got fifty member city council which is what they have and uh... all of them are make two hundred a year i mean they're not like up here it's not like we treat people poorly down there but should they just elect a city manager for new york city elect a city manager there's the the council select oh would you like to see that is opposed i mean i guess it would depend on
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[SPEAKER_11]: that areas needs, right?
50:33
[SPEAKER_11]: I think New York City has, well, they should have, like, a larger, like, pool of quality candidates.
50:42
[SPEAKER_11]: Sure.
50:43
[SPEAKER_11]: In this case, I don't think those are the ones that come to the surface, right?
50:47
[SPEAKER_11]: And I think that's ultimately the problem with the political system.
50:50
[SPEAKER_11]: It's the more the money that you're raised.
50:52
[SPEAKER_22]: But it's tougher to find city managers.
50:54
[SPEAKER_22]: Look at what Ogden'sberg, a trouble they've had.
50:56
[SPEAKER_11]: I agree with you.
50:57
[SPEAKER_22]: And in this case,
50:59
[SPEAKER_22]: You know, they went out to Fort Drum and grabbed a retired Colonel.
51:02
[SPEAKER_22]: That's fine, but, and I think I don't have any evidence.
51:07
[SPEAKER_22]: I think he was told, or I don't blame him for this, but he was told.
51:10
[SPEAKER_22]: Don't worry about this residency.
51:11
[SPEAKER_22]: We'll, we'll fluff that over later, and then it came up again.
51:16
[SPEAKER_22]: But, so there's not a lot of selection out there.
51:20
[SPEAKER_22]: And this was the thing.
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[SPEAKER_22]: I mean, Finn,
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[SPEAKER_22]: Finn was interviewed and rejected by the council I was on and then they hired him because when they came a second next time around, there was nobody applied.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Nobody applied other than fin the second time around for when you were on there.
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[SPEAKER_22]: I wasn't there when Finn actually got hired I wasn't there but I you don't think there was a lot of meat on that bone really as far as applicants Addison was there when you were there though when you hired her right hired her and then she left after I left I think So I don't know I don't know, but I do know we have to do one more commercial break and We'll see what happens.
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[SPEAKER_22]: All righty, we're back with Doug Osborne.
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[SPEAKER_22]: We did get a call, somebody concerning that house on Maine that burned in the pile.
55:23
[SPEAKER_22]: I think it's still there.
55:27
[SPEAKER_22]: City put up the fence, who wish would permits and tore it down.
55:31
[SPEAKER_22]: Yeah, I don't know.
55:32
[SPEAKER_22]: The city just did it.
55:33
[SPEAKER_22]: They did the same thing on Rutland Street
55:37
[SPEAKER_22]: I think that's still sitting there, and they say now, well, we got to get a specialist abatement, but meet on the neighborhood, the neighborhood puts up with it.
55:47
[SPEAKER_22]: And as I think I mentioned to the manager when I talked to him, if that house had been on West Main, West Flower, or Luminous Drive, I think it could be gone by now.
55:58
[SPEAKER_22]: Isn't there a class warfare to that?
56:00
[SPEAKER_22]: No, it's in a crappy neighborhood, so we don't care as much.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I don't know.
56:06
[SPEAKER_11]: I think that all these quite any time that there's a situation like that, they should be met with the utmost sense of urgency and equally addressed no matter what section of town it is.
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[SPEAKER_22]: Okay.
56:23
[SPEAKER_22]: All right.
56:25
[SPEAKER_22]: We got a call right here.
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[SPEAKER_22]: We'll take it to switches on.
56:28
[SPEAKER_22]: Good afternoon.
56:28
[SPEAKER_22]: You're on the air.
56:29
[SPEAKER_22]: Oh.
56:30
[SPEAKER_22]: Good Austin.
56:31
[SPEAKER_22]: Oh well.
56:33
[SPEAKER_22]: I'm sure they'll call back.
56:34
[SPEAKER_22]: only got a couple of minutes left here so what do you do from here you're gonna
56:38
[SPEAKER_22]: Do you join a draw?
56:39
[SPEAKER_22]: You're probably going to have a couple of debates late mid to late October.
56:44
[SPEAKER_11]: Um, I'm also having a campaign event.
56:47
[SPEAKER_22]: Um, um, jealous more.
56:48
[SPEAKER_11]: Yep.
56:49
[SPEAKER_11]: Campaign event at the Bad Apple Social at Ives on September 19th.
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[SPEAKER_11]: All are welcome to come.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Um, they'll be food there.
56:57
[SPEAKER_22]: And September 19th, what day of the week is that?
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[SPEAKER_11]: That's a Friday.
57:01
[SPEAKER_11]: That's a Friday.
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[SPEAKER_11]: That's a Friday 6 p.m.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Yep.
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[SPEAKER_22]: Okay.
57:04
[SPEAKER_22]: Chan, give you a good deal.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Um, we're working things out.
57:08
[SPEAKER_11]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_22]: We're working it out.
57:09
[SPEAKER_22]: Well, she's a wonderful person.
57:10
[SPEAKER_22]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_22]: And, uh, city resident too, sorry.
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[SPEAKER_22]: I imagine she can vote.
57:14
[SPEAKER_22]: Um, well, that's good.
57:15
[SPEAKER_22]: So that's a variety of the 19th over at I've still a country club, and, uh, sort of a fundraiser or meet the candidate deal.
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[SPEAKER_22]: Yep.
57:24
[SPEAKER_22]: Okay.
57:24
[SPEAKER_22]: I think we got time for this one call who I stepped a minute ago.
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[SPEAKER_22]: Good afternoon, you're on the air.
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[SPEAKER_22]: I do.
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[SPEAKER_22]: Good.
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[SPEAKER_22]: Got to be quick.
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[UNKNOWN]: more than we'll be looking for you there in the final.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I appreciate you.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Thank you so much.
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[UNKNOWN]: You're welcome.
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[UNKNOWN]: Have a good day.
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[SPEAKER_11]: You too.
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[SPEAKER_22]: All right.
57:41
[SPEAKER_22]: You got a supporter there.
57:42
[SPEAKER_22]: That's good.
57:45
[SPEAKER_22]: So, is there a place where people cross money to run a campaign?
57:50
[SPEAKER_22]: So, I mean donations are a part of the business.
57:54
[SPEAKER_22]: Working people send a dress or... Yeah, you could set it to my home address.
58:05
[SPEAKER_11]: go to my Facebook page, I have all that information there, and you can either instant message me and what for alternatives, I also have a PayPal account at Doug Osborne for Watertown, if you wanted to donate there, but I mean, it's, I've been funding my campaign mostly on my own.
58:30
[SPEAKER_22]: Okay, but you're still, you know, I mean, I mean, every little bit helps.
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[SPEAKER_11]: It's not, it's not mandatory.
58:35
[SPEAKER_22]: Now, your final campaign finance reports.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_22]: Okay.
58:37
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_22]: All right, because that's a pain in the butt, too.
58:40
[SPEAKER_22]: It is.
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[SPEAKER_22]: For a small time race like this.
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[SPEAKER_11]: That is.
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[SPEAKER_22]: It really is kind of a pain.
58:45
[SPEAKER_22]: But, okay.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Nope.
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[SPEAKER_22]: We got for a treasury, yourself.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Um, yeah, my dad.
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[SPEAKER_22]: Okay, good.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_22]: Sounds great.
58:55
[SPEAKER_22]: Well, good.
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[SPEAKER_22]: You doing a good job.
58:57
[SPEAKER_22]: You're out there.
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[SPEAKER_22]: You're meeting people.
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[SPEAKER_22]: anything else you want to tell people if they want a lawn sign or anything like that?
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[SPEAKER_11]: yeah again if uh if you want a lawn sign or donate go to my uh
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[SPEAKER_11]: Facebook page, Doug Osborne for Watertown.
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[SPEAKER_11]: You can email me at Doug Osborne, junioritgmail.com.
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[SPEAKER_11]: That's d-o-u-g-o-s-b-o-r-n-e-j-r-n-gmail.com.
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[SPEAKER_11]: And, or just feel free to reach out any time.
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[SPEAKER_22]: OK.
59:28
[SPEAKER_22]: Well, we thank you for coming on today.
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[SPEAKER_22]: We'll have Mr. Monaco on tomorrow.
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[SPEAKER_22]: And, uh,
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[SPEAKER_22]: Good luck on the trail.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Thank you so much.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I appreciate having me.
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[SPEAKER_22]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_22]: I hope you do Glenn show at some point.
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[SPEAKER_22]: I'm sure you're well.
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[SPEAKER_22]: I'm sure he'll be in touch with it.
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[SPEAKER_22]: All right.
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