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Business Panel: O-Studio founder Kate Twigg and Glide Media director Lukas Halikias · Best of Business

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  Speaker 3: Seven minutes past eleven business panel every second Monday. Joining
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  Speaker 3: us for the Business Panel this morning is host Studio
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  Speaker 3: Wellington owner Kate Tweg. Good morning Kate, Good morning Nick.
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  Speaker 3: How are you?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah? Very well? Thanks?
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  Speaker 3: Have you been on the worksite this morning? Have you
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  Speaker 3: seen what's going on? And you're making sure the builders
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  Speaker 3: are doing everything you wanted to do?
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  Speaker 4: Actually, this morning is one morning I have not been
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  Speaker 4: on site this morning, but yet that we've got to
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  Speaker 4: call in. It's actually Sam's brother who's building it, so
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  Speaker 4: call last night so they're all on schedule and raring
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  Speaker 4: to go.
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  Speaker 3: Great. Well, we'll get to that and talk a bit
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  Speaker 3: about that and also Glide Media founder Lucas Helikius. Did
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  Speaker 3: I pronounce your name right?
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  Speaker 1: You did?
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  Speaker 3: I'll just kept on the right microphone it's go again.
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  Speaker 3: Did I get that pronunciation right?
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  Speaker 2: You did? Indeed? Well done?
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  Speaker 3: Okay, fantastic, Come a bit closer to the mic. So
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  Speaker 3: you're a bit of a young sensation. You're the youngest
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  Speaker 3: person by about twenty five years that we've ever had,
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  Speaker 3: probably thirty years that we've ever had on apart from KPE. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I was going to say, but on the show, on.
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  Speaker 3: The show, sorry, So you're the young gun social media guy.
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  Speaker 3: Tell us what makes you different to other social media
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  Speaker 3: people around New Zealand and Wellington.
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  Speaker 2: Oh that's a great question, Nick, I think I've done it.
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  Speaker 2: I think you know that's that's the first thing. You know,
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  Speaker 2: the story is being that started with my best mate
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  Speaker 2: inside a Darian CORRORI and I mean the Numbers spoke
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  Speaker 2: with themselves and there was a lot of views, a
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  Speaker 2: lot of interactions. People loved us, and I think that's
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  Speaker 2: where it starts. So I really understand the world of
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  Speaker 2: social media by you know, creating content firsthand.
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  Speaker 3: And get results totally.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, as you know, more of the older generation
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  Speaker 2: would say, numbers speak a lot of words. So like
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  Speaker 2: you know the Numbers show, you know there's millions of
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  Speaker 2: views on there, so I think that's that's a huge thing.
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  Speaker 3: And I want to talk to you both about this
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  Speaker 3: before we really get into it, because both of you
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  Speaker 3: are in areas where you really haven't felt the recession,
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  Speaker 3: I mean health and well being. Kate is, I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I mean gyms are still busy, people are still and
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  Speaker 3: you are taking you your organization or studio are taking
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  Speaker 3: it to the next level, aren't you. So explain what
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  Speaker 3: you do that's different from a gym.
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  Speaker 4: Absolutely so, how I think of it as O Studio
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  Speaker 4: is a wellness and recovery center. It's like the gym
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  Speaker 4: for the mind really and for the recovery. So you know,
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  Speaker 4: your gym takes care of your physical stuff and studio
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  Speaker 4: takes care of the mind stuff. Not to say that also,
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  Speaker 4: recovery is huge for us at our studio. So when
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  Speaker 4: you know professional athletes, people that are doing lots of sports,
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  Speaker 4: hard workers, you know, builders, whatever, whatever you're doing that's
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  Speaker 4: hard on the body, then you come to O Studio to, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: to get that recovery, to quiet the mind, and to
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  Speaker 4: be connected in a community that's like minded.
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  Speaker 3: So how does it work? How does that work? I mean,
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  Speaker 3: is it like we go and we hear Harley Christ
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  Speaker 3: and new music, and we are normal. We hold hands
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  Speaker 3: and we don't have one year after I try to
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  Speaker 3: work out how it works when you say mind this,
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  Speaker 3: you know, when I see all these ideas of pools
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  Speaker 3: and ice baths and all that, that's more than mind us.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, walk you through it. So you come in. You
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  Speaker 4: come into the reception. On the right hand side, there's
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  Speaker 4: a breathwork, meditation room and a recovery space. Then you
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  Speaker 4: go through there's a couple of massage rooms and a
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  Speaker 4: wet float. If you don't know what a wet floaters
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  Speaker 4: it is when you lie in the water, just it's
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  Speaker 4: almost like me time, relaxing time. You're floating on salt,
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  Speaker 4: and so you just have an hour of stillness to
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  Speaker 4: yourself floating. And there's also a dry float, which is
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  Speaker 4: what we're bringing in in case you don't like being wet,
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  Speaker 4: similar sort of experience. It's almost like a water bed.
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  Speaker 4: Remember the water beds back I.
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  Speaker 3: Do remember I do had a water bed, of course,
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  Speaker 3: I'll remember the water.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, so you lie on it.
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  Speaker 3: Because it's looking at us. What the hell's a water bed?
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  Speaker 2: Are you not worried about these flotation pods like you know,
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  Speaker 2: drowning or something. I just don't really understand.
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  Speaker 4: No, that the water is only you can't see me,
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  Speaker 4: but it's only about ten centimeters twenty centimeters deep. So
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  Speaker 4: but because it's salt, you lie back and yeah, you've
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  Speaker 4: got you're just floating.
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  Speaker 2: And then the thing closes, the lid closes. It's not
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  Speaker 2: a pod, it's not. Yeah, our one's very different.
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  Speaker 4: It's like walking into a cabin and up on the
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  Speaker 4: roof is all the stars. So you can actually stand
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  Speaker 4: up in it. So anyone with crosstrophobia, which was myself,
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  Speaker 4: no problem.
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  Speaker 3: You can.
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  Speaker 4: You can go in there, stand up in it, lie
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  Speaker 4: down and yeah, where you go in saunas and ice sparts,
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  Speaker 4: which is our big thing immunal ones.
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  Speaker 3: And also so you go and have a sauna and
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  Speaker 3: you go straight into the ice pas and backwards and forwards. Yes, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: and you do you Is it a one off occasion
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  Speaker 3: or have you become a member and go once a week.
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  Speaker 4: Or absolutely you become a member. You know, at the
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  Speaker 4: end of the day. It's like anything that's like the gym.
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  Speaker 4: If you make it a habit, then you're going to
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  Speaker 4: find the results and get consistency.
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  Speaker 3: Talking about habits social media. How important is social media
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  Speaker 3: right now? I mean people generally in business know about
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  Speaker 3: paper advertising, they know about radio advertising, they know about
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  Speaker 3: you know, billboards. Social media is a whole new phenomenon.
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  Speaker 3: How does it work and how does it work effectively?
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  Speaker 2: Good question? So I think from a business standpoint is
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  Speaker 2: that what you sort of mean? I think from a
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  Speaker 2: business standpoint, you have direct sort of point of contact
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  Speaker 2: towards your consumer, really like if they want to search,
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  Speaker 2: so say Hummingbird for example, that's you know, the lovely
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  Speaker 2: restaurant there on Courtney Place. Thanks for you didn't say that, Yeah, anyway,
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  Speaker 2: So for example a place like that, people want to
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  Speaker 2: know in Wellington where the best spots are. And immediately
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  Speaker 2: right now, everyone's going to social media. I think there's
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  Speaker 2: a stat which I need to confirm, but it's something
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  Speaker 2: like forty three percent of gen Z and millennials, which is,
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  Speaker 2: you know, quite a large portion of the population are
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  Speaker 2: going to TikTok search to find out, you know, all
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  Speaker 2: of these things and what's going on. So Google's also
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  Speaker 2: struggling with all this right now and trying to figure
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  Speaker 2: out why they all going into this platform because it's
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  Speaker 2: immediate validation on what they're seeing. So like if I
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  Speaker 2: see a video compared to say, you know, how you'd
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  Speaker 2: cook something? Right, So for example, people searched how to
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  Speaker 2: cook x y z. They go to TikTok now and
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  Speaker 2: social media platforms to see visually how to do so
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  Speaker 2: or where to go. So I think it's really integral
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  Speaker 2: that businesses start to just give it a go and
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  Speaker 2: give it a nudge because that's where the conversation is
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  Speaker 2: now online on Google, Yata, all that advertising. And I
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  Speaker 2: understand radio, it's it's quite important for a specific.
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  Speaker 3: They must work hand in hand too, isn't it If
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  Speaker 3: you hear about one and then you go to the
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  Speaker 3: other and you you know, you still listen to your radio,
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  Speaker 3: so you still get awareness.
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  Speaker 2: Yes you do, And that's right. And I think that
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  Speaker 2: they should have Theoretically, they should be in every single
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  Speaker 2: platform right right, so they should have a dabble in radio,
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  Speaker 2: They should have a little dabble in social media. But
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  Speaker 2: I think the world is changing and I think people
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  Speaker 2: need to accept that that social media now is very
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  Speaker 2: important as people have just got that that's there every
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  Speaker 2: day entertainment, Like you know, no one really is concerned
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  Speaker 2: about anything else, and they go to social media immediately
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  Speaker 2: after five o'clock. They want to go through TikTok and
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  Speaker 2: scroll through TikTok. My old man sixty five years old
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  Speaker 2: and he's doing the same thing. So I think that
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  Speaker 2: putting a business through social media as what we've seen
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  Speaker 2: through results with for example, Greek food truck. We did
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  Speaker 2: some stuff with and they were twenty thousand followers or
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  Speaker 2: something and they started to bring consumers in.
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  Speaker 3: Right, So it's a tame for you as social media
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  Speaker 3: part going to be part of your program? Are you
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  Speaker 3: going to have your own TikTok account and social media.
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  Speaker 2: It's already there.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's booming along so.
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  Speaker 3: People can actually go on and see how you're progressing
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  Speaker 3: and what's going on.
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  Speaker 4: Absolutely, yeah, yeah, and yeah, it's I find it tricky
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  Speaker 4: because I have a fourteen year old daughter, right, So
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  Speaker 4: there's that in one hand, I'm like, yes, for the business,
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  Speaker 4: this is awesome, this is amazing, And for my fourteen
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  Speaker 4: year old daughter, I'm like, oh, not so amazing. But yeah,
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  Speaker 4: like you said, Lucas, there is a definite we somehow
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  Speaker 4: have to go with the change in time. It is
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  Speaker 4: the way it's going it's not going to go back,
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  Speaker 4: and so we have to learn to work with it
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  Speaker 4: and being in business. Yeah, we've I mean we've jumped
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  Speaker 4: up to I don't know, like you said, the likes
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  Speaker 4: and the follows are like one thousand, six hundred followers.
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  Speaker 4: We're not even open, so people are engaging in it.
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  Speaker 4: That's where people are finding out about. We're doing a
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  Speaker 4: lot of community events and things before we open. So
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  Speaker 4: we've done an early Bird Beats, which is a morning
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  Speaker 4: dance party for anyone that wants to come, and a
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  Speaker 4: seven am research breathwork class. They've been sold out and
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  Speaker 4: full because of social media.
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  Speaker 3: Why do you think that wellness is such a peak industry?
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  Speaker 3: I mean you think that everyone will be trying to
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  Speaker 3: cut back in hard times and me and you have
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  Speaker 3: talked about hard times, orf air and stuff and how
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  Speaker 3: hard you know. I'm sort of respectful of you going
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  Speaker 3: into business and taking a risk and starting wall this,
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  Speaker 3: But wellness is so and why.
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  Speaker 4: Because I've got a view on this, my own view.
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  Speaker 3: That's what we wanted.
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  Speaker 4: It is that we used as our parents' generation, our generation,
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  Speaker 4: we used alcohol for everything and we are now realizing
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  Speaker 4: that alcohol is not the answer to everything. And when
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  Speaker 4: we don't have any other tools in our box, and
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  Speaker 4: we come to hard situations in our life, and some
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  Speaker 4: of us come there sooner rather than later, we've got nothing.
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  Speaker 4: And that happened to me because I got cancer, breast cancer,
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  Speaker 4: and then from breast cancer, I got leukemia. And during
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  Speaker 4: that time I had to give up alcohol, and I
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  Speaker 4: didn't have anything other than alcohol to get me through,
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  Speaker 4: and so I started researching and I started looking into things,
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  Speaker 4: and that's how I got into meditation, breath work, sauna's,
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  Speaker 4: I sparse, the cold, everything to do with health and life.
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  Speaker 4: But I think suddenly this younger generation is seeing our
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  Speaker 4: generation and how we handled the situation with alcohol, and
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  Speaker 4: they're going, Nah, we don't we don't want that.
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  Speaker 3: Lucas, I'm coming to you quickly. I've got to go
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  Speaker 3: to an air break, but I'm going to come thank you.
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  Speaker 3: That's a wonderful story, and I'm respectful respect to you.
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  Speaker 3: But is that right a young people? I mean, they're
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  Speaker 3: still going out and using alcohol as much, but are
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  Speaker 3: they starting to think there's more to life than alcohol.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, just to follow on from what you said there,
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  Speaker 2: that's due to social media as well. The power of
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  Speaker 2: social media. I think wellness has become this huge thing,
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  Speaker 2: and I think that people are slowly, as we're seeing,
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  Speaker 2: people aren't going out as much anymore. And I think
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  Speaker 2: that not only are they looking about think about their wellness,
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  Speaker 2: also their health, of course, and I think that's due
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  Speaker 2: to a lot of influencers on the platform talking about wellness, health,
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  Speaker 2: cold sorenas, all of this. I would have never known
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  Speaker 2: that if it wasn't for social media, I must say
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  Speaker 2: right now.
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  Speaker 3: So social media an educator as well.
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  Speaker 2: One height and one hundred ply the bad educator.
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  Speaker 3: Because we talked about just before the last hour and
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to go to an air break. I'm going
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  Speaker 3: to get really told. But we talked in the last
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  Speaker 3: hour about the problems with tooth de kay and kids
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  Speaker 3: at the moment and all the sugary things. Now I
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  Speaker 3: know for a fact that that my family kids are
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  Speaker 3: buying stuff off social media because there's trends and sugary stuff.
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  Speaker 3: And you're laughing like hell because you know I'm right.
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  Speaker 3: And I mean there's bad education too, isn't it.
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  Speaker 2: One hundred percent there's bad education, But there's all forms
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  Speaker 2: of education, and.
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  Speaker 4: It's like anything right, and you can choose. You can
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  Speaker 4: choose which one you want to go. Yeah, you've got
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  Speaker 4: a choice.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean.
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  Speaker 3: Hard to get a seven year old to choose where
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  Speaker 3: Theo's got the heroes saying that the strength's perfect, But
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  Speaker 3: there's Lolly's an ice cream a great ordered online and
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  Speaker 3: go here and give me your give me you a Greg,
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  Speaker 3: give me your card Grandad and.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's not it's not. It's not good as that.
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  Speaker 2: And just make sure they don't get hacked too. I
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  Speaker 2: think that's something that would happen to you, to be honest.
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  Speaker 3: Take a short. We're in the business panel with mister Hellikius,
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  Speaker 3: Lucas Helikius. I got it right, correct, I've got it.
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  Speaker 3: I'll put your mic on as well. I'll let you
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  Speaker 3: speak and Kate twig right, let's quickly talk about the budget,
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  Speaker 3: because I know you both don't want to have a
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  Speaker 3: big long conversation about the budget. And I'll start with you, Kate,
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  Speaker 3: what did you make of it? Are you worried about
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  Speaker 3: any parts of it?
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  Speaker 2: You?
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  Speaker 3: Did it? Please you? I mean you would have been
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  Speaker 3: sitting there thinking, imagine if anything changes. I've set up
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  Speaker 3: a whole business I'm about to open.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, there was a little bit of that, I guess,
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  Speaker 4: but you can't. You can't change anything before it happens,
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  Speaker 4: so you just go with what's presented with you. I
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  Speaker 4: think there was definitely the twenty percent investment booster that
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  Speaker 4: was really.
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  Speaker 2: Good for us.
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  Speaker 3: Can you can you do it? Can you use that?
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  Speaker 4: Let me ask my husband, hang on, No, we can.
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  Speaker 4: We will be able to, I'm sure, but we just
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  Speaker 4: have to clarify that with our accountant. But yeah, we
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  Speaker 4: are bringing in lots of lots of things for our
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  Speaker 4: studio that haven't been there for so yeah, I'm sure
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  Speaker 4: we'll be able to get something out of it. The
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  Speaker 4: one percent key we saver not too worried about that.
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  Speaker 4: I guess there's enough time. I think.
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  Speaker 3: I think that you're right about that time. If you
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  Speaker 3: got told that it was next week and you've got
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  Speaker 3: all these new staff starting, you've done all their contracts,
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  Speaker 3: and you're now two percent out, Yes, really aren't you?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? Exactly so.
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  Speaker 4: And I look at it, as you know, always trying
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  Speaker 4: to find the positive, because that's what I do is
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  Speaker 4: just for future. Then it's great.
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  Speaker 3: So so you thought the budget was okay? Yeah, Lucas,
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  Speaker 3: what did you think you're a young guy. You don't
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  Speaker 3: really give a damn about a budget. You give a
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  Speaker 3: damn about Friday night and whether you've got enough social
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  Speaker 3: media people looking at your post. Don't you know you're
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  Speaker 3: not even looking at the budget.
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  Speaker 2: I just want to say quickly, the budget obviously the
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  Speaker 2: key we saver going for three to four percent. I
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  Speaker 2: think it's going to be really good long term, but
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  Speaker 2: it could slow the wage growth down in the short term,
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  Speaker 2: don't you think?
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely? I mean, and that's what it is. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: you've only got a certain amount of money to spend,
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  Speaker 3: haven't you. I mean, if you're saying to someone I'm
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  Speaker 3: going to give you one hundred grand for that job,
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  Speaker 3: suddenly it becomes two or four percent down, doesn't it. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: so it changes it.
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  Speaker 2: Is that a good point? Because I thought that was
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  Speaker 2: a good point.
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  Speaker 3: I thought it was a very good point for a game,
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  Speaker 3: you know.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I can't believe I came up with that.
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  Speaker 2: Who would have thought?
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  Speaker 3: Have you put it out on your social media as
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  Speaker 3: if you told everyone around New Zealand about it?
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  Speaker 2: No, I probably should, and then you know the twenty
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  Speaker 2: percent tax ree. But it's smart. It's obviously encouraging businesses investment.
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  Speaker 2: But obviously, see how would you use that?
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  Speaker 3: Let me let me, let me cut to the chase
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  Speaker 3: on that you'll use that because suddenly you'll want a
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  Speaker 3: new camera. You know, you told me the other week
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  Speaker 3: when you did some recording with me that your camera's
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  Speaker 3: worth ten or fifteen grand. Will you automatically get twenty
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  Speaker 3: percent of that back now? So that's a pretty good thing,
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  Speaker 3: isn't it? And the government of paying for.
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  Speaker 2: It isn't Isn't that great? That's exactly what we want.
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  Speaker 2: That that help from the government, which has been we've
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  Speaker 2: been searching for. I feel like it's a business owner,
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: you know, it's been it's been really tough, and I think, yeah,
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: of course you in the social media game, and it's
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: different to the expenses are a lot different, right then
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: obviously yourself and and somewhere like Corney plays both of you.
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: But for me, obviously you know, getting a little bit
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: of a rebound like that, I think it's really really good.
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: So well, it will make you spend money, and then
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: because you're spending money, someone else is getting the reward
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: of that, so they are getting money, so they they
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: spend money. So it's actually a psychical thing that we're
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: not many people are talking about. But it's putting money
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: into the community and.
• 16:35
  Speaker 4: Putting money back into your business that in turn helps
• 16:38
  Speaker 4: you know people coming to you, and yeah, it's great.
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: There's always so many negatives on decisions may day. I
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: always noticed that they're just here, so many negatives, like okay,
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: the budgets come out and there's a massive uproar of
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: the side and a massive look, I'm still learning this,
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: you know, the politics game. I don't really you know,
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: to me, I don't really deeply look into it and go, yeah,
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: that's interesting. That's just me and who I am. I guess,
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: but I'm just trying to.
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: Just give you a little bit of help. Can I
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: just be be your doctor Phil for a second please.
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: Kate's just explained some of the trials and tribulations that
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: she's had in her life. You know, I can spend
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: all day telling you about mine as you g older.
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: These stumbling blocks, so I call them the stumbling box.
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: Absolutely, yep. I think that's a great way of putting it.
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: Stumbling blocks will come and then you'll start thinking shivers,
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: what could have I done then? Or what could have
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: I done there? So you'll, you'll, you'll, you'll understand that
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: as you go through. But you know, when you're starting out,
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: life's your oyster, isn't it? Yep? You know?
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: But also why not? Like I always have that saying
• 17:44
  Speaker 4: instead of what if it doesn't work? Like what if
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: it all works? What if it all works out?
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: How do you get can you tell our listeners? Because
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: I love this stuff and you'll would have seen a
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: lot of it old social media as I do. How
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: do you actually get your mind into that? When I
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: wake up in the middle of the night, which I
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: do every single night, and go through all the things
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: that possibly could go wrong the next day, How do
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: I get my mind? How do I get myself back
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: to sleep?
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: I love?
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: I could talk for days on this. I actually had
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: to do this during cancer, right because things went wrong
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: all the time constantly. It was through COVID. My kids
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: couldn't come and see me, like there was a whole thing.
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: And so I always live in the now. And what's
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: the point in worrying about something before it's actually happened?
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: What does that actually do to you?
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah? But what if it is your future? What if
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: you're sitting on a deal that could actually change your life.
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: So you have to trust in the process. It's about
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: rewiring your brain right, because your brain is already now
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: wired to focus on the negative, to pull out the negative,
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: to worry about the bad stuff. What if you switched
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: your brain around.
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: Flipped the narrow Is it possible flip?
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: Yes?
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: Absolutely, it's possible.
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: Is it, Lucas? I think it's possible. You're right. I
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: completely agree with you. One you can read way anything
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: that's you're You're completely right. She's completely right.
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: That's what I'm not saying.
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: It's easy.
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: It's not easy, and it's hard, like if you're if
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: you're in that way, I'm going.
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: To go to an air break and have a private
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: session business panel. It's getting hectic in here, isn't it
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: getting a bit hectic? Yes, it is. You're a bit
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: young for the show. You're just making too much energy.
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: We can't I can't control it, and Caate can't control me.
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: So we're away, Kate, Twig and Lucas. Helicius right, tell
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: me about Wellington. I'm going to start with you, lucause
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: I don't know why, but it's a stupid, stupid decision
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: to do. But I'm going to start with that, you
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: can go hard things that's still really tough in the city.
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: I know that you're young and you're driving brand new
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: car and you've got all this happening and you're the man,
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: and I get that. But businesses are closing, there's a
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: decline in house prices, and a population that hasn't grown
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: in five years, so all things that don't look good
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: for the future of Wellington. How would you now if
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: someone from overseas, someone from Greece rang you and said
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: to you, do you understand Greek? Can you speak you?
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: So? I can?
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: Okay, someone said to you in Greek, tell me about Wellington.
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: I've got lots of friends families that live in Wellington.
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: Tell me what how you would describe Wellington right now?
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: How would you describe it back to them?
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: Great? Oh wow?
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: I think just for yourself, how would you look?
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: I don't like the state of Wellington right now. I
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: think for me it's lost what it's really about. And
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: Wellington is that small social hub of the Southern Hemisphere.
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: It's like you can interact with anyone like, for example,
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: maybe I know you and two people down the road,
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: you know, Chris Luxan type. It's a small community. We
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: all know each other somehow in some way. But I
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: think we're losing that. Why, you know, what's a great question.
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: And I think that the way that and look the
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: way that the council is approaching Wellington, and I think
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: they have the wrong intentions. I feel like and for example,
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: just to for me at my age, Look Place, as
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: you know, was a social harbor. It was huge. It
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: was used to have the sevens on and like obviously
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: I didn't get to experience that, which I'm gutted about
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: because my cousin told me it was unreal. I don't
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: know if you got to experience that, Kate, but he did, Yeah,
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: Liver you guys, so that was like, you know, it
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: was a great time. Yes, there was alcohol involved, but
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: it was a place for people to mingle and get together.
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: But now ever since COVID, I feel like there hasn't
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: been the right move towards growing a greater Wellington. It's
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: been put into completely other things which are not important
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: in my opinion. I think that mouse community and connection
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: one hundred and I think really, yeah, I don't know,
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: you've seen it firsthand, that you're in Corney Place, you've
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: seen it firsthand. People are slowly.
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: You know, I got to omit that I worked on
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: the weekend last weekend and I got it shot in
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: the arm from Kate because I talked to Kate and
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: was a little bit negative and I got sort of
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: put in my place big in the street and on
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: the weekend I went in with a different attitude, and
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: I actually felt that last weekend was a great week
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: in courty Place. I thought that I thought the city
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: felt great.
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: See, in that moment, you chose to focus on the positive.
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: You went in with another attitude, and that's what we.
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: Need to do.
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: We still have challenges in the city. Cake, give me the.
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: There is no doubt that we have challenges.
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: Tell me about the cors and tell me what challenges
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: are you you're starting a business, creating employment, creating something,
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: what challenges have you faced?
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: Okay, So I find that Wellington has an incredible soul.
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: We're really vibrant and exactly, you know, it's vibrant, it's creative,
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: it's got people in there from all walks of life,
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: and it's easy to get around. It's you know, I
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: always say, if this was Sydney, then we'd be overrun.
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: If the weather in Sydney would be overrun because it's
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: so incredible. But what we've done is we've lost focus.
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: We've chosen to focus on the negative rather than the
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: positives that are happening. And the media doesn't help there
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: at all. So they are constantly going in there saying
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: this cafe is closed, this something's closed. Like half of
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: those places that have closed aren't even for the reason
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: of COVID or what's going on in the city. It's
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: actually people who have got other circumstances in their life
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: or whatever, but they choose to run and then promote
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: it as though Wellington's this doom and gloom place.
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: But we can't hide from the fact, Lucas that we
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: have lost a lot of government employees. We are doing
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: it tough economically. The stats don't lie. If the retailers
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: were doing well, the stats would show that the retailers
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: doing well. I get it. I get about the positive
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: mind and I get about that, but realistically we are
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: still in tough times. You're doing a documentary on Courtney
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: Place at the moment I am, indeed, and you're seeing
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: what people were talking about from yesteryear.
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: It's different. So from my opinion, I think that from
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: what Kate's saying, there is an element of we should
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: be looking positive on the city because this is one
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: of the best cities in the world, and you cannot
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: deny that on its day. I mean, how many times
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: have you heard you can't be welling on a good day.
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: You even said to me that if the weather was
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: consistently like this, this would be the most expensive place
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: to live in the whole world. But for me, right now,
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: I'm seeing a city where media is, as Kate sat,
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: media is just neged of this that, oh, this is
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: happening Wellington. What about the positive story? So, for example,
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: this Corney Place documentary that I'm creating with a good
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: friend of mine, Ben Cushman, we're trying to bring out
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: that element of how good and how how much potential
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: the city has. You know, there's people like yourself we're
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: interviewing it. There's people like Raft Degagori on the courtney
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: at the corner of Courney Place, who's running this you know,
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: Italian Italian, you know restaurant and it's vibrant. You go
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: inside there and it's like that's what it should be about,
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: and as soon as you step outside, it's just like
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: it's not the same, Like there are elements of Wellington
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: right now where we should be focusing on that we
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: can actually create some sort of vibrant place.
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: Okay, right, there's one topic that I really want to
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: speak to Lucas about. Lucas, Helikias and Kate Tweg join
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: us on the Business panel. Going overseas. So many bright
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: young New Zealanders are moving over speed, especially to Australia.
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: This is concern you and why why are your friends
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: all going to Aussie?
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: I think, first of all, yes, it is a little
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: bit concerning. Of course, I think that Wellington and New
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: Zealand as a whole has a lot more to offer
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: than people understand and people think. And I've seen it firsthand.
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: Growing a business in New Zealand I feel like is
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: not easy, but it is relatively, you know, not as
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: hard as going to restart over in Australia as a
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: nurse or a trade I understand it more pay I
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: get it getting a degree and finding your way. I
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: think you start and you stick around in New Zealand
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: and utilize the connections that you have here. It's a
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: small place. As I said before, you may know someone
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: that knows the Prime Minister that that's how tighten it
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: the community here is in New Zealand and utilize those connections,
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: go out and meet people. I think that people are
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: running away from the fact that, oh, you know, I'm
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: sick of it on board of you haven't even experienced that.
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: We've experienced it at this high school. Is like you
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: want to go experience England. I get that, maybe for
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: a year and then come back, but they always come back.
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: It seems like ct your thoughts on this.
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree it in what Lucas is saying, definitely,
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: but I yeah, I also know that this small country,
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: we do have the tendency to want to go over
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: seas and explore a little bit more. And for some
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: people that's a really good thing, especially in the business,
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: because we gain higher qualifications and achievements, and then generally
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: most people come back. So you know our age group now,
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: which is that forty five year old bracket, I've got
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: a handful I can count that is still overseas. Most
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: of us have come back and most of us starting
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: some sort of business or doing something back in New Zealand.
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: So see, I have a daughter about the same age
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: as you, and she lives in Melbourne and she wouldn't.
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: I mean, she comes back three or four times a
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: year to see your family and everything. She would not
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: move back to New Zealand if someone put a gun
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: to a head. You know, she just thinks that everything
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: is so much better in Melbourne than it is in Wellington.
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: Absolutely, and you know you can't change people's views. That's her,
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: that's where she wants to live, that's what she wants
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: to do. I think there are definitely things that we
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: can do here in Wellington to make it more attractive
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: for people to come back.
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: And can I ask you about that, because you know,
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: the council's just done its ten year plan and we've
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: seen them what they're doing and changes. I don't know
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: whether you've been starting at CAPE. But I mean, let's
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: talk a little bit about the mayoral's race, because I
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: mean we're going to have a new mayor. Does that
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: make a big difference to the city.
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: Absolutely. I think we I want to, you know, applaud
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: Tory for her time and her effort and what she's done.
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: I think you're never going to please everybody. I think
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: we do need a refresh now and I feel like
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: in Wellington we need somebody who's really about community and
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: connection and actually listening to what we want as Walentonian's
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: not just pushing the paper out the legal requirements and saying, oh,
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: we put it out there. We've told them you know
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: that this is going to happen, and we didn't get
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: any responses or people didn't really care or whatever. I
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: don't know what the actual process is, but I feel
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: like you don't hear about things till the last minute.
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: And there is somebody out there that cares about Wellington
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: a lot and cares about what the people in Wellington think,
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: and that's the road that we need to be heading down.
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: Okay, I'll come back to you on that in one second. Lucas,
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: you're a young guy. What do you think you've had
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: a young mayor that's a party mayor and trying to
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: sort the city out. What do you think she's like,
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: she's leaving. Do you think we need change?
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Look, I think we definitely need a change, for sure.
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: There's a couple of antics there that was reported on
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: by her, but obviously which aren't very good, and we
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: saw those in the in the in the articles, which Yeah, anyway,
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: we'll move on from that, as I'm saying, so, I
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: think that she didn't do that good of a job.
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: To be honest at all, I think that Wellington as
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: a whole has stayed stagnant, hasn't moved, hasn't done anything.
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: There's just been papers signed and as Kate saying, you know,
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: we need more of a voice. What was happening and
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: what has been happening for many years and I don't
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: know how many years before. But what I've seen is
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: that here you go, we're gonna We're going to do
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: this in Wellington. It's going to make it so much better.
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: We don't care about your opinion. Just just just take it.
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: Can I quickly ask you both? I'll start with you,
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: Lucas you know Andrew Little's come along, he's an ex politician.
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: What are you thinking? Does that what we're looking for
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: in the city?
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: Is anyone running against him? Is there anyone?
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: There's quite a few, quite a few different there is.
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, okay, so Andrew Little, as far as I'm aware,
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: I don't really know too much about him. I heard
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: there's someone else running. I think there's Grand blocks And
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: running as well. Is that true?
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: I believe? So.
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: I think there's that look. At the end of the day,
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: I think it's anyone's game. I don't really have too
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: much to say on Andrew Little. I think at this
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: rate anyone could be willing to maror as it stands.
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: And I think that, just to just to touch on
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: before I finish, it takes a village to raise a child,
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: right have you heard that saying? I've heard that saying
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: from the old man. Right, So, Wellington is our city,
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: So why don't the community get together and actually figure
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: out what we're going to do, not this one side
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: of things and go, oh, we're going to do that. Sorry,
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: we don't get your opinion. Alan Bay, for example, before
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: I finish rap from PiZZ and Uper, he let me
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: know this, which is quite funny story. They put the
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: cycle ways in and they made people park five meters
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: away from their houses and then then after they asked, oh,
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: is it okay? And then the majority said no, and
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: then so they said no, no, we don't have enough
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: money to get rid of it.
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: So right, oh, here we go. Business panel Kate Twig
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: and Lucas Helikias. Kate, I want to start with you.
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: Someone's really really important, someone you really really care about
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: rides into Wellington at three o'clock this afternoon. You're going
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: to take them never been to Wellington before, I haven't
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: been here for years. What are you going to do
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: with them?
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: I'm going to take them up to space Yoga. I
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: don't know if you've been up there space Yoga up
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: on Rosey. Amazing incredible views out there. So we'd go
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: and do that. Then we'd come down, we'd go to
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: the markets, we'd walk along the waterfront. Of course, we'd
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: nip into O Studio for a sauna and an ice bath,
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: probably some pastries from Tomboy and dinner at Hummingbird.
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: Oh there you go, there you go. Come on, you
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  Speaker 3: don't have to say the same. What are you doing?
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  Speaker 2: I'm ready? So the boys called me Buttata for a reason.
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  Speaker 2: So I love food that means, you know, fatty. So
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: for a branch breakfast vibes, I'm going Prefab with my
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: mate Jeff there and Lola stays. Then for lunch or
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: what am I feeling for lunch? I think I'll probably
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: head I don't know, some Japanese place and then now
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  Speaker 2: I'm going Hummingbird or Pizza Nuple of course.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, there you go, Kate, can I just quickly ask
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  Speaker 3: you what your thoughts on Andrew little are you? Do
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  Speaker 3: you feel comfortable? And you what are you and your
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  Speaker 3: husband sitting around thinking this would be a good move
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  Speaker 3: for wanting.
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  Speaker 4: To be To be completely honest with you, Nick, I
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  Speaker 4: I don't know. I want someone fresh, en, vibrant. I
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: don't know if he's got that or not.
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: Not sure. I'm running for me watch the space.
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  Speaker 3: I reckon, Lucas, I reckon, I reckon, You'd be great
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  Speaker 3: youngest youngest me are ever?
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely would people vote on me? Because actually I actually
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: would love to just get people's opinion, not just creating money.
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  Speaker 3: We'll find out, we'll get a few on the text.
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  Speaker 3: Beteed I'll probably say twenty years too young. Thank you
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  Speaker 3: both for joining us today. It's been amazing great to
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  Speaker 3: see you again, Kate, and you did you are that
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  Speaker 3: thing of good good fortune, that thought of good fortune
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  Speaker 3: because I thought about I mean, I was grumpy with
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: you when I talked to you, and I thought about it,
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  Speaker 3: and then you you corrected me. Thank you, Lucas, always
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  Speaker 3: good to talk to you, Good to see you. Say
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  Speaker 3: loo to your parents for me. I wait, great people,
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: great Wellingtonian the Greek.
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  Speaker 2: I can't wait till this Courtney place then comes out. Eh.
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: Yes, we'll wait and see it. I'll let people know.
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