Latest / Crime Stories with Nancy Grace / Teens murdered on hiking trail: Grainy photo shows suspect
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- 0:08Speaker 1: The two girls were reported missing on Monday, February. The
- 0:11Speaker 1: bodies were discovered about twelve fifteen on the fourteen in
- 0:15Speaker 1: the woods just as the town here. Bodies are of
- 0:17Speaker 1: have been positive identified as Abigail J. Williams, thirteen of
- 0:21Speaker 1: the Delphi area and Liberty Rose Lynn German, fourteen of
- 0:26Speaker 1: the Delphi area. This is crime stories, but Nancy Grace
- 0:30Speaker 1: and this is considered a double homicide investigation. We were
- 0:34Speaker 1: asking for anyone to come forward who has information that
- 0:37Speaker 1: we're either on the Delphi Historic Trail yet there on Monday,
- 0:40Speaker 1: especially if they were near the Monon high Bridge. They
- 0:42Speaker 1: may have taken pictures where somebody might be in that photograph.
- 0:45Speaker 1: We would love to have pictures of that. Now police
- 0:48Speaker 1: are officially naming the man in this picture as suspect.
- 0:51Speaker 1: Police hope the evidence that led them to point to
- 0:53Speaker 1: this man as a suspect will continue pushing the investigation along.
- 0:58Speaker 1: Two little girls decide they are going for a walk
- 1:01Speaker 1: not far from home, small town Delphi, Indiana. They're even
- 1:06Speaker 1: photoed in snapchat of each other walking along a trestle bridge.
- 1:11Speaker 1: It's broad daylight, two pm on a Monday afternoon on
- 1:16Speaker 1: a public thoroughfare. They're never seen alive again. I know
- 1:22Speaker 1: you know the story. I'm talking about two little girls,
- 1:25Speaker 1: Liberty German and Abigail Williams. They're dead and I want answers.
- 1:32Speaker 1: I'm Nancy Grace's crime Stories. Thank you for being with
- 1:35Speaker 1: us tonight. Still no new leads in the search for
- 1:40Speaker 1: the killer of these two girls, Liberty German and Abigail Williams,
- 1:45Speaker 1: who leave, as I stated, around two o'clock in the
- 1:48Speaker 1: afternoon to go in broad daylight for a hike, a
- 1:52Speaker 1: walk that is popular with locals, and it's a very
- 1:56Speaker 1: small town. Delphi, Indiana, the base of Libby German and
- 2:01Speaker 1: Abby Williams were discovered on Tuesday, only a quarter mile
- 2:05Speaker 1: from an abandoned railroad bridge where they had been hiking
- 2:10Speaker 1: the day that they go missing. They start hiking around
- 2:13Speaker 1: two o'clock. Around five six o'clock, their families know something
- 2:17Speaker 1: is horribly wrong because the girls aren't coming home, and
- 2:21Speaker 1: the search begins. Then we hear two bodies have been found.
- 2:26Speaker 1: But are they the bodies of the two girls? Police
- 2:29Speaker 1: won't say, But in a town that small, who else
- 2:31Speaker 1: could it be? Then the worst fears are confirmed. They
- 2:35Speaker 1: are the bodies of the two little girls, and we
- 2:37Speaker 1: all thought was there an accident? Did they fall off
- 2:40Speaker 1: the bridge? With what happened? Then the news got worse
- 2:44Speaker 1: as we learned that it's homicide. Police issued a statement
- 2:48Speaker 1: saying it's not good and we need them that Abigail
- 2:52Speaker 1: and Liberty had been murdered, but tonight we are no
- 2:56Speaker 1: closer to finding their killer than we were when they're
- 3:00Speaker 1: bodies were found. Before we go further, I want to
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- 3:47Speaker 1: shot of Abigail walking along the bridge. Liberty German posted
- 3:52Speaker 1: a shot of Abigail a snapchat There on Monon High
- 3:56Speaker 1: Bridge trail close to where they started hiking. So lad
- 4:00Speaker 1: photos of Abigail ever known? Two little girls gone now
- 4:06Speaker 1: from out of nowhere, and I'd like to know from
- 4:09Speaker 1: where the photo of a white male has emerged. And
- 4:14Speaker 1: police and delph I say this man pictured near the
- 4:17Speaker 1: Mona Bridge where Abbey and Liberty started their walk, is
- 4:21Speaker 1: the main suspect in their murders. This guy, and it's
- 4:26Speaker 1: hard to get he's not standing near anything. He's walking
- 4:30Speaker 1: across it looks like an elevated bridge, so I don't
- 4:34Speaker 1: have anything to compare him to. But he is a
- 4:37Speaker 1: white male. He's wearing jeans, a blue jacket, and it
- 4:41Speaker 1: looks like he's got a brown camouflage or a brown
- 4:45Speaker 1: hoodie underneath the jacket, with a shirt underneath that, brown shoes.
- 4:50Speaker 1: Joining me right now is Alan Duke. Delphi is a
- 4:53Speaker 1: small town. It's got the railroad track running through it,
- 4:57Speaker 1: but that's been abandoned and and the city turned it
- 4:59Speaker 1: a to a hiking trail, one point five mile hiking
- 5:03Speaker 1: trail that starts inside the city and goes all the
- 5:06Speaker 1: way over to Deer Creek. It ends at the railroad bridge.
- 5:11Speaker 1: This is very historic old d and twenty five years.
- 5:14Speaker 1: It's on the Historic Landmarks Registry, all of that, and
- 5:17Speaker 1: you're not supposed to walk on the bridge. The trail
- 5:19Speaker 1: actually ends at the bridge, and we do see one
- 5:23Speaker 1: of these young ladies. The last picture of her, she's
- 5:26Speaker 1: actually walking across it, which is kind of dangerous, sixty
- 5:29Speaker 1: ft high above the creek. Not supposed to be doing that.
- 5:33Speaker 1: The man was photographed by another hiker out there who
- 5:36Speaker 1: was taking pictures and they started looking at and said, hey,
- 5:39Speaker 1: look at this, and so police wanted to find out
- 5:41Speaker 1: who it was because maybe he saw something. He wasn't
- 5:44Speaker 1: a suspect until yesterday, after several days of putting the
- 5:48Speaker 1: photo out there, nobody came forward. Because the theory is
- 5:52Speaker 1: if that's you and you see your photo there, he's oh, yeah,
- 5:55Speaker 1: that's me, yeah, and you go and you talk to
- 5:57Speaker 1: the police, it makes it very suspicious when he doesn't
- 6:01Speaker 1: come forward. And that's why they've got a massive man hunt,
- 6:03Speaker 1: all out man hunt for this man. They don't have
- 6:06Speaker 1: his name, they're not releasing a name yet if they
- 6:09Speaker 1: do know it. I really believe that we're going to
- 6:11Speaker 1: find out that this was not, for instance, a little
- 6:15Speaker 1: boyfriend that they have been snapchatting with or I am
- 6:18Speaker 1: ing nothing like that, because that would have already been
- 6:21Speaker 1: uncovered by now. This is the work I believe a
- 6:25Speaker 1: grown man. The moment they saw those bodies, they knew
- 6:28Speaker 1: it was homicide. That these girls had not just drowned,
- 6:31Speaker 1: they had not just fallen from the train trestle. This
- 6:34Speaker 1: was a new accident. It occurs to me that since
- 6:37Speaker 1: these these kids were snapchatting from the railroad bridge, you know,
- 6:41Speaker 1: that's real time, and it's a small town. Let's say
- 6:45Speaker 1: just one theory here, Nancy, there's this pervert killer out
- 6:50Speaker 1: there who stalks them, watches the snapchat, sees it and
- 6:55Speaker 1: says mm hmmmm, and then goes out there. Maybe maybe
- 6:59Speaker 1: that's how the killer found his targets. Thousands of people
- 7:04Speaker 1: allowing the streets to see this child's herst go by
- 7:09Speaker 1: before she was laid to rest. I cannot even imagine
- 7:13Speaker 1: the pain her family is going through. And to make
- 7:17Speaker 1: matters worse, still, no answers. We are talking about Liberty
- 7:22Speaker 1: and Abigail, dead little girls, tweens essentially once ones fourteen,
- 7:31Speaker 1: out on a Monday afternoon, just going for a walk.
- 7:34Speaker 1: You know, I remember Alan Um, my best friend, growing up,
- 7:39Speaker 1: Joy loved across the street from me. We would ride
- 7:42Speaker 1: bikes allday finally come home when it was starting to
- 7:47Speaker 1: get dark on Saturdays and not think a thing about it.
- 7:51Speaker 1: Everything that was just fine, no problem. And you know,
- 7:56Speaker 1: to even get to the closest convenience store to have
- 7:58Speaker 1: to ride a bike, I guess it was four or
- 8:00Speaker 1: five miles away, and no one ever thought of that
- 8:04Speaker 1: being a safety issue. That's not true anymore. That is
- 8:09Speaker 1: not true anymore. Alan Nancy on the line with us. Now,
- 8:12Speaker 1: we've got Sergeant Tony Slocum with the Indiana State Police
- 8:16Speaker 1: and he is in Delphi, Indiana. Thank you so much
- 8:19Speaker 1: for being with us. What is the latest. We're all
- 8:24Speaker 1: heartbroken for these girls families and the only way they
- 8:27Speaker 1: can move on is to get answers. What can you
- 8:31Speaker 1: tell us? Well, the latest is we have identified as
- 8:34Speaker 1: suspect a male white would pair of blue jeans on
- 8:38Speaker 1: and a dark blue jacket. Uh. It's a photograph that
- 8:41Speaker 1: we distributed through the media that person who was on
- 8:46Speaker 1: UH we believed to be on the trails at the time.
- 8:49Speaker 1: Liberty German and Abigail Williams are murdered, and we wanted
- 8:54Speaker 1: to talk to this person almost since day one, but
- 8:57Speaker 1: in light of new evidence and totality that evidence, we
- 9:01Speaker 1: have determined this is one of our main suspects. How
- 9:04Speaker 1: were the girls discovered? There was an organized search party
- 9:08Speaker 1: looking for the young ladies. They've been missing since the
- 9:11Speaker 1: day before February thirteenth, they were reported missing. They were
- 9:15Speaker 1: actually found on Valentine's Day to fourteen, and it was
- 9:18Speaker 1: an organized search party. Members of that party actually found
- 9:21Speaker 1: the young ladies near the historic Delfi Trails. How did
- 9:26Speaker 1: police know immediately that this was a homicide and not
- 9:29Speaker 1: an accident. Well, based on obviously the evidence that was
- 9:33Speaker 1: located at the scene, lad officers to believe that this
- 9:37Speaker 1: is definitely a double homicide. Have their cell phones been
- 9:42Speaker 1: confiscated and are being analyzed. We're looking at every avenue
- 9:47Speaker 1: of investigation that we can, hopefully sooner than later, to
- 9:51Speaker 1: get the murderer of Abigail Williams and Liberty German into custody.
- 9:55Speaker 1: How are police trying to identify this guy for also
- 10:01Speaker 1: on the Tryne trestle? And where did that photo come from?
- 10:04Speaker 1: Who took that snap? No, we're not saying where the
- 10:07Speaker 1: photo came from, but that that's the best we can
- 10:10Speaker 1: provide at this time, and that's why we're asking for
- 10:13Speaker 1: the public's help to call the Delphi murder tip LINEU
- 10:16Speaker 1: to hopefully give us the final piece of the puzzle
- 10:18Speaker 1: to identify who this person is. Can you tell us
- 10:21Speaker 1: if there are any cameras in the area that may
- 10:24Speaker 1: have picked up people coming in and out of the
- 10:27Speaker 1: area where they were hiking. I'm not authorized to comment
- 10:31Speaker 1: on on any trail or excuse me, any cameras it
- 10:34Speaker 1: might have been on the trails, But if there are
- 10:37Speaker 1: hunters who put cameras out trying to see wildlife in
- 10:42Speaker 1: the area, and if they do have images on those cameras, again,
- 10:45Speaker 1: we would like uh for them to let law enforcement know,
- 10:49Speaker 1: and they could do so by calling that tip line.
- 10:51Speaker 1: So just to be clear, Sergeant Slocum, you don't know
- 10:53Speaker 1: the name of that person in that photo. You do
- 10:57Speaker 1: not have a suspect's name. No, Unfortunately, all we have
- 11:02Speaker 1: is that photo. We are asking for the public's help,
- 11:05Speaker 1: and we have set up a tip line for this
- 11:08Speaker 1: case specifically, and that numbers eight four four four or
- 11:12Speaker 1: five nine five seven eight six eight four four or
- 11:15Speaker 1: four or five nine, five seven, eight six and that's
- 11:19Speaker 1: information can be reported anonymously through that tip line, and
- 11:22Speaker 1: we're trying to identify that person. So if anyone has
- 11:25Speaker 1: any information, we would appreciate a call. Thank you so
- 11:29Speaker 1: much for being with us. It just means a lot
- 11:31Speaker 1: to us to hear the latest or at least what
- 11:34Speaker 1: you can tell us and give us encouragement that there
- 11:38Speaker 1: is movement in the case. Again, thank you to our
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- 12:23Speaker 1: You know, Alan, I've been looking at this area and
- 12:27Speaker 1: it looks like every trail, every back road I've ever seen.
- 12:33Speaker 1: Tall trees on either side. There's a bend in the
- 12:35Speaker 1: road that you can't see around the railroad trestle going
- 12:39Speaker 1: over some water. It's every town Delphi, Indiana. What's stomping
- 12:46Speaker 1: me is why we can't get a line on this guy.
- 12:50Speaker 1: Who is this guy you were mentioning earlier? If he's
- 12:53Speaker 1: a local, why not come forward and go, hey, that
- 12:55Speaker 1: was that's me? Certainly the locals know who he is.
- 12:59Speaker 1: How do you miss somebody in a town of less
- 13:01Speaker 1: than three thousand. Somebody saw him, somebody recognizes him, somebody
- 13:06Speaker 1: knows him. He wasn't walking right near an interstate. It's
- 13:10Speaker 1: not like you can slip in and slip out without
- 13:13Speaker 1: somebody seeing it. And of course he didn't. I mean,
- 13:15Speaker 1: there's a picture of him right there, at least the
- 13:17Speaker 1: person they call a suspect, and they're saying he is
- 13:20Speaker 1: the main suspect. Libby German and Abigail Williams, did the
- 13:26Speaker 1: mystery man in this photo murder these two girls? Now
- 13:30Speaker 1: the FBI has searched a home, it did not lead
- 13:34Speaker 1: to an arrest. That has not cheered us on at
- 13:37Speaker 1: all because nothing came. It was not fruitful. So where
- 13:42Speaker 1: does that leave us? Everyone left trying to identify this
- 13:46Speaker 1: one guy in the murders of two little girls. Ellen,
- 13:51Speaker 1: give us a tip line again, place the tip line
- 13:53Speaker 1: if you saw somebody or have any information on the case,
- 13:56Speaker 1: and call the Delphi Murder tipline at eight four four
- 14:02Speaker 1: four five nine five seven eight six eight four four
- 14:07Speaker 1: four five nine, five seven eight six guys to search
- 14:11Speaker 1: for the killer of these two little girls. Goes on
- 14:14Speaker 1: Nancy Grace signing off, thank you for being with us,
- 14:19Speaker 1: Goodbye friend.