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I'll Do It Myself with Wayno - Maino Says 50 Cent FELL OFF! Do You Agree? · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: All right, we've been talking about Brooklyn today, or we're
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  Speaker 1: going to be talking about Brooklyn today a lot. We
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  Speaker 1: got Maino, right? Now, Maino, the Let's Rap About It podcast,
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  Speaker 1: no secret to any controversy. They've been going back and
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  Speaker 1: forth with 50 for some months now. I mean, it
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  Speaker 1: kind of died down. Once 50 started focusing more on
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  Speaker 1: Street Fighter, you know what I mean, and the Power
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  Speaker 1: Origin series, he started focusing more on Rick Ross. You
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  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying? We ain't really seen him say
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  Speaker 1: nothing about Jim or the pod or none of that.
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  Speaker 1: So it's not out of surprise. But Maino took the
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  Speaker 1: opportunity this weekend and Halloween and Troll 50 Cent. We're
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  Speaker 1: going to talk about that. And he also said that
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  Speaker 1: 50 fell off. Before we get started, though, you know
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  Speaker 2: I bet.
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  Speaker 1: So 50 Cent, Maino, has always been some sort of
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  Speaker 1: topic of discussion that seeped out of the music and
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  Speaker 1: went into the streets. If we was doing top 10
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  Speaker 1: tough niggas or top 10 gangsters out the city, Maino
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  Speaker 1: is definitely considered as far as rappers. Maino is definitely considered.
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  Speaker 1: Maino made a name for himself very early on in
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  Speaker 1: his career by having problems and controversy with people in
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  Speaker 1: the music industry. And I think that in one light,
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  Speaker 1: I look at it as this. He took a page
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  Speaker 1: out of 50 book for sure. When Maino came home,
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  Speaker 1: It was right around the time when 50 had just
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  Speaker 1: sold 10 million or 20 million records in two years.
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  Speaker 1: It was right around the time when June was popping crazy.
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  Speaker 1: And Maino was moving through the streets of New York
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  Speaker 1: like a fucking rebel. Now, talking to Maino now, the
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  Speaker 1: man he is today, not saying that he necessarily regrets that,
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  Speaker 1: but he knows that he was wilding the fuck out.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? He know that he had
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  Speaker 1: a lot of fear instilled in the streets and the
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  Speaker 1: music industry, and it probably stopped a lot of bags
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  Speaker 1: for him. But I feel like on that podcast, Maino
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  Speaker 1: is possibly the most outgoing person He the one that's
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  Speaker 1: going to laugh and joke and make fun or light
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  Speaker 1: of a lot of things that the other co-hosts won't do.
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  Speaker 1: And I don't take nothing away from none of them,
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  Speaker 1: but that's just Maino's personality. The nigga likes to have
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  Speaker 1: fun and he don't take things too serious because he's
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  Speaker 1: been through some serious situations. The nigga did 10 years
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  Speaker 1: in prison and got cut twice while he was in there.
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  Speaker 1: So he's been through it all. Lost a lot of
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  Speaker 1: niggas to the streets and all of that. But Maino,
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  Speaker 1: I always felt like his problem with 50 Cent stemmed
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  Speaker 1: from how people look at him. Versus his own personal profile.
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  Speaker 1: When it comes to the streets. This is Maino talking
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  Speaker 1: about that.
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  Speaker 3: I think that he's a nice guy. And I think that.
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  Speaker 3: Somewhere along the line. This character that he built up
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  Speaker 3: for himself. I'm not sure if he started to believe
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  Speaker 3: in himself. Or people just allowed it. To go so long.
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  Speaker 3: That he is now. Becoming to believe that. You can't
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  Speaker 3: believe nothing on this side.
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  Speaker 2: 100%. Right.
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  Speaker 4: I respect you as a.
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  Speaker 3: A business man, I respect you as a man and
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  Speaker 3: I respect you for what you done done, right? And
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  Speaker 3: what you done for the culture, but I don't know
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  Speaker 3: nothing about no gangster shit, bro. I don't know nothing
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  Speaker 3: about that. I don't, I don't, I'm a nigga.
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  Speaker 4: You gotta, you gotta, you gotta show me that. So
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  Speaker 4: I don't, I don't know what.
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  Speaker 3: This, this mystique and this, this, uh, this, this, this,
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  Speaker 3: this information that I, that I, I don't, I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: So I just wanted to get that off because we, we,
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  Speaker 4: cause we here now. I think he still wants to
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  Speaker 4: be your friend.
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  Speaker 2: I don't mind.
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  Speaker 3: Because I don't think that none of this is personal.
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  Speaker 3: But when people have this thing about, oh, man, you know, B-150,
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  Speaker 3: you know, he don't play. What do you mean I
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  Speaker 3: know he don't play? How do I know he don't play?
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  Speaker 3: What you mean he don't play?
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  Speaker 4: I don't understand.
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  Speaker 3: He don't play like, listen, he's dope rap. Like, we
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  Speaker 3: fell in love. With the culture and the story, we
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  Speaker 3: respect that. And I'm not going to take nothing away
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  Speaker 3: from a man when he deserve it, right? But at
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  Speaker 3: the same time, when we talking about, oh, he don't
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  Speaker 3: play and he's playing chess, we all men. And don't
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  Speaker 3: misconstrue grace with cowardice.
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  Speaker 1: See, I do respect that, though. I do respect that
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  Speaker 1: because people always speak of that in the position of like, yo,
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  Speaker 1: you better chill before he do something to y'all. The
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  Speaker 1: main is like, You mean do something. You know what
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  Speaker 1: I mean? But that's also ego, though. That's also ego.
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  Speaker 1: Not taking nothing away from them. But these is men
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  Speaker 1: that's in their 50s, right? No pun intended. These is
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  Speaker 1: two men that's in their 50s. And, I mean, I
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  Speaker 1: get it. I feel like you got to stand up
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  Speaker 1: for yourself in every aspect when you're challenged in that way.
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  Speaker 1: But this is all internet stuff going back and forth,
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  Speaker 1: social media stuff. This is still a very new world.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like we're not fully used to or understand
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  Speaker 1: how things go in that realm, right? Like I seen
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  Speaker 1: a post of Sneako, right? Like going off on academics
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  Speaker 1: and shit. And it says, tells academics to his face.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm like, bro, they on stream. How the fuck
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  Speaker 1: is that to his face? Like if he's yelling, if
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  Speaker 1: a nigga's yelling at you through a camera, I've yelled
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  Speaker 1: at some people through cameras, y'all know. But I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I ain't taking it like as a death threat. I'm
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  Speaker 1: not like, I don't take that as like, oh man, shit.
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  Speaker 1: I better be looking over my shoulder when I step
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  Speaker 1: out of my house. But that's not it when it
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  Speaker 1: comes to Maino and 50 Cent. See, Maino, the podcast,
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  Speaker 1: they had Joe Button up there and they all speaking
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  Speaker 1: from the aspect of rap, lyricism, who still got it,
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  Speaker 1: who don't. Joe said that if he picked up a pen,
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  Speaker 1: he feel like he still could be what he once
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  Speaker 1: was or he still would have that level. And I
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  Speaker 1: agree there because when he speaks, when he's potting, all
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  Speaker 1: of that lyricism is still exist in how he delivers
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  Speaker 1: his words. You feel me? So This is all of
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  Speaker 1: them talking, and this is where Maino says that 50
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  Speaker 1: fell off.
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  Speaker 5: A lot of us get better as a lot of
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  Speaker 5: people went bad.
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  Speaker 4: But a lot of us.
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  Speaker 6: Wait, was nice went bad?
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  Speaker 4: I think some of the passion went bad.
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  Speaker 2: You lose the passion, you're going to go bad. Who
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  Speaker 2: was nice and went bad?
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  Speaker 6: Damn.
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  Speaker 2: Damn. Who else?
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  Speaker 4: I'm just saying, the deep.
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  Speaker 4: Let me shut the fuck up. Because everybody, they don't
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  Speaker 4: want me.
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  Speaker 2: You know what?
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  Speaker 4: I'm saying just the skill of rap. Not record sales.
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  Speaker 4: Nothing else. I'm saying the skill of rap.
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  Speaker 2: Am I right or am I wrong? I don't think
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  Speaker 2: there's a bunch of niggas that was nice that went bad.
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  Speaker 4: I just said one thing specifically. Am I right or
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  Speaker 4: am I wrong?
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  Speaker 2: You said with the skill of rap.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, but I said one person specifically.
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  Speaker 2: He's saying it's hard for that to happen.
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  Speaker 4: You think he got better?
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  Speaker 2: I believe you, too. I do think if you don't
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  Speaker 2: have it anymore. No, I'm saying, do you think he
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  Speaker 2: got better? Oh, I disagree with your 57 point.
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  Speaker 4: You think he got better as time went on?
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  Speaker 6: I don't feel like his gift was in his lyrical ability.
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  Speaker 2: I never felt like that.
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  Speaker 4: But did he get better as time went on?
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  Speaker 1: Alright, this is a very interesting conversation where we're now
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  Speaker 1: talking about lyricism and it's the shit I love and
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  Speaker 1: who got better and all of that, right? So, one,
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  Speaker 1: one is this. Mano, I love you. You know you
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  Speaker 1: my nigga. But to say that 50 fell off is crazy.
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  Speaker 1: That is crazy. Now, I think people misconstrue what falling
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  Speaker 1: off actually means. A nigga falling off means or doing
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  Speaker 1: bad means that like We don't even care when a
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  Speaker 1: nigga putting out music. We don't even care. We don't
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  Speaker 1: even want to. We don't even want you to say
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  Speaker 1: that you about to put out some music. I feel
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  Speaker 1: like all of us, regardless to the sales conversation and
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  Speaker 1: all that, I would appreciate some new 50 Cent music.
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  Speaker 1: And that's why this dominant shit. Because my question was this.
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  Speaker 1: When people start talking about dominance and how much records
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  Speaker 1: he sold and this amount of time. And you look
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  Speaker 1: at his full length career. And yeah, the sales did
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  Speaker 1: fall off. People started to get disinterested in 50 Cent's music,
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  Speaker 1: but he pivoted out of that into a different form
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  Speaker 1: of entertainment, which is film and television. Did his skill
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  Speaker 1: set go up or down? No. I don't think that
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  Speaker 1: went 50. Whenever you do hear him rap, we hear
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  Speaker 1: him and say, oh, this nigga used to be nice.
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  Speaker 1: Nobody say that. You say, oh, okay, it's 50. You also,
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  Speaker 1: and this was the point I was making when he
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  Speaker 1: started that whole Jay-Z shit. There never was a time
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  Speaker 1: When niggas was comparing 50 for his lyrical ability, I
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  Speaker 1: feel like Joe said that shit right. Yeah, 50 got
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  Speaker 1: verses that we love, but niggas is not like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: 50 Cent featured? Let's see. I remember on a Magic
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  Speaker 1: album when Nas and 50 Cent had worked together and
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  Speaker 1: hearing 50 verse, and I was just like, okay, it
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  Speaker 1: sounds like almost any other 50 verse I've ever heard.
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  Speaker 1: That doesn't mean it's trash. That doesn't mean that I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not excited about it either. It's just, it's a
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  Speaker 1: 50 verse. But I ain't going to lie, 50 didn't
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  Speaker 1: fall off. Falling off is like not having a career.
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  Speaker 1: Falling off is like having nobody, absolutely nobody. And fans
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  Speaker 1: is fickle. Fans can be very fickle. They love you
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  Speaker 1: one moment, they hate you the next, or they'll move
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  Speaker 1: on to the next thing. So when people start talking
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  Speaker 1: about the international shit and all that, oh, well, you know,
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  Speaker 1: in Australia, it's like, bro, that don't mean nothing when
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  Speaker 1: we having a debate about lyricism. That don't mean nothing
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  Speaker 1: when we having a debate about longevity. Now, even with
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  Speaker 1: all of that being said, 50 is still... A rap superstar.
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  Speaker 1: He will forever be a rap superstar. But as far
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  Speaker 1: as falling off, nah, man. And that's the reason why
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  Speaker 1: people feel like it's motivated by a different tone. I'm
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  Speaker 1: pretty sure I'm going to get a call from Maino
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  Speaker 1: after this, but it's motivated by a different tone as
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  Speaker 1: to why you may feel that way. You feel me? Now,
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  Speaker 1: don't get me wrong. There's a lot of niggas that do.
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  Speaker 2: Do bad.
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  Speaker 1: There's a lot of niggas that you don't really care for,
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  Speaker 1: that you would just rather hear them pod, or you
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  Speaker 1: would rather just don't even give a damn. But as
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  Speaker 1: far as falling off, nah, I can't give you that name,
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  Speaker 1: but this is more of that conversation.
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  Speaker 2: No, not better, but I don't think he fell off.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think he went bad.
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  Speaker 6: I think his skill level, kind of like what I'm saying,
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  Speaker 6: I think if he go in the studio, like when
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  Speaker 6: he do that TV show shit.
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  Speaker 2: I know that y'all got what y'all got going on. No,
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  Speaker 2: we don't. No, no. This is straight.
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  Speaker 6: But when he do his TV show shit, I think
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  Speaker 6: he could go in there and.
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  Speaker 4: Write four theme songs for his show. Shut his mic off.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, okay. We don't even believe what.
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  Speaker 4: You're saying, nigga.
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  Speaker 3: We don't believe what you're saying.
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  Speaker 2: I'm telling you something.
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  Speaker 1: We just talking about the skill of rap.
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  Speaker 2: You like the power theme song, nigga.
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  Speaker 4: I love the power theme song.
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  Speaker 2: That's all I'm saying.
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  Speaker 4: I love it. I love some song structure and all that.
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  Speaker 4: Got it. Making records, got it. I'm talking about the
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  Speaker 4: skill of rapping. Did it get better?
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  Speaker 2: Depends.
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  Speaker 5: I think the niggas that are nice get better. I
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  Speaker 5: don't think the niggas who have a niche or just
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  Speaker 5: have a style or image, that don't be getting better.
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  Speaker 5: I'm dead ass serious.
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  Speaker 2: That's not even a joke.
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  Speaker 5: If you nice, if you were lyrically nice, you get better.
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  Speaker 5: you can get better. You're seeing more. Your vocabulary, you
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  Speaker 5: can get better. I think even just if you keep continuously,
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  Speaker 5: I think Jim is one of the most improved. And
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  Speaker 5: not to say, I'm not saying like how Remy said
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  Speaker 5: it yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: See, I think that when it comes to 50, his
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  Speaker 1: music is like brand driven, right? Like he don't really care.
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  Speaker 1: It's a hustle for him. He don't really care about
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  Speaker 1: all of the other things. You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 1: The being able to say the best bars and put
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  Speaker 1: it together the best way and all that, he just
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  Speaker 1: gets straight to the point. And I feel like that's
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  Speaker 1: just as important as a person who feels like they
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  Speaker 1: are the best lyrically, because in terms of rap, that
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  Speaker 1: goalposts get moved around a lot. You know who I
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  Speaker 1: think is one of the greatest rappers ever, bar for
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  Speaker 1: bar ever? Royce Da 5'9. I don't even think it's
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  Speaker 1: disputable if Royce can out-rap most niggas, but Royce as
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  Speaker 1: an artist, didn't necessarily have, like, the other, the it factor.
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  Speaker 1: That doesn't take anything away from him as an artist
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  Speaker 1: because Royce has made great music. But everybody has things
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  Speaker 1: or qualities that the others won't, right? Like, when Nelly
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  Speaker 1: keeps coming up in conversation about, like, the sales and
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  Speaker 1: dominance and all of that, yes, Nelly was able to
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  Speaker 1: sell a lot of records. And I do, to me,
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  Speaker 1: country grammar, if you listen to Nelly's lyrics... No, is
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  Speaker 1: Nelly putting it together like Lupe Fiasco? No, but he
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  Speaker 1: did have a keen sense on how to say shit
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  Speaker 1: to get people engaged. It's very important when you can
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  Speaker 1: say words that have opening lines, that have bridges, the
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  Speaker 1: things that carry on that make a person's day. That
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  Speaker 1: shit is just as important as a nigga having 40
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  Speaker 1: bars that's crazy. Now, with that being said, I feel
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  Speaker 1: like niggas just be moving it around as what they
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  Speaker 1: qualify makes a person a legend and all that other shit.
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  Speaker 1: When end of the day for me, it's all black music.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like we're stronger together than we are apart,
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  Speaker 1: but all we do is debate about who is the best.
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  Speaker 1: If you look at the time when this person was
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  Speaker 1: the best versus the time when this person is the best,
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  Speaker 1: you say, oh, but they sold more, but it's like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: how much did they sell after that?
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  Speaker 2: Right?
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  Speaker 1: Now this is easy pickings for Maino because Maino also
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  Speaker 1: been trolling 50 Cent all weekend. Did y'all see the video?
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  Speaker 1: He literally came out As 50 Cent with the vest on,
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  Speaker 1: the big jeans, the G-Unit Reeboks, had his hat to
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  Speaker 1: the back with the do-rag, and performed What Up Gangsta.
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  Speaker 1: And then he also was putting up the pictures, you
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  Speaker 1: know what I mean, the iconic photos from 50s press
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  Speaker 1: shoots from back in the day. And yeah, I think
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  Speaker 1: that Maino's just having fun. I think that's what makes
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  Speaker 1: Maino like the X Factor of that podcast, because he's
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  Speaker 1: willing to go the mile that everybody else won't. Now,
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  Speaker 1: as far as niggas falling off though, man, you're off
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  Speaker 1: on that one. I can't agree with you with that
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  Speaker 1: as far as falling off, but we do understand when
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  Speaker 1: niggas do get better, right? I feel like if we
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  Speaker 1: just go into the G-Unit catalog, period, I feel like
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  Speaker 1: Lloyd Banks got better once he became more independent only
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  Speaker 1: because he was in charge of his own ship and
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  Speaker 1: he made the music that he wanted to make. Banks
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  Speaker 1: has always been out the way. Even when he was
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  Speaker 1: selling 400-something thousand plus the first week. He always seemed
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  Speaker 1: like a nigga that took a step back. But now
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  Speaker 1: that he's doing what he's doing, he puts out his music,
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  Speaker 1: does a couple shows, and does what he does. He
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  Speaker 1: fades to black. But his lyrical ability did get better.
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  Speaker 1: And he was a fucking monster back in the early 2000s.
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  Speaker 1: But y'all tell me, what y'all think? Do y'all think
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  Speaker 1: that Maino is right? Or do y'all think that he's
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  Speaker 1: just motivated by them having problems earlier this year? Either way,
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  Speaker 1: this is how I do it myself. For the ones
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  Speaker 1: that rock with me, I know how we doing. For
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  Speaker 1: the ones that don't, Eventually you will. I will catch
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  Speaker 1: y'all in the next one. And this audio has been
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  Speaker 1: brought to you by the Black Effect Network.
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  Speaker 2: Peace.