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Hometown Hero · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast
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Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio.
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Speaker 2: It's almost famous podcast.
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Speaker 3: We were here breaking down Grant's season of The Bachelor.
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Speaker 3: Now we are at hometown's this week. There's so much
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Speaker 3: to talk about, Ashley. I'm going to start out the
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Speaker 3: podcast with saying this, it is one of the most
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Speaker 3: shocking exits of the season. Now, before we get to that,
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Speaker 3: let's break down the episode.
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Speaker 2: Are you ready? Yes, we have Juliana's date for the
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Speaker 2: first date.
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Speaker 3: It's in Newton, Massachusetts, East Coast, something you're familiar with.
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Speaker 4: I like the vibe, very familiar vibe.
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Speaker 5: I like the North End. Well, I guess it was
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Speaker 5: the little Italy in her town, but you know Boston's
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Speaker 5: North End, and.
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Speaker 4: I just don't. I don't know. How do you feel
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Speaker 4: about this?
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Speaker 5: Because I know Juliana is the frontrunner, but overall I
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Speaker 5: love her date, still wanting more. There's only one person
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Speaker 5: in this competition that I feel real connection with.
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Speaker 2: I loved her date.
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Speaker 4: Actually date part was good.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, but I put it at number two as the
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Speaker 3: hometowns for the week, Yeah, confidently at number two.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: I loved her family. I loved her dad.
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Speaker 3: Now dad, granted, I married into an Italian family, so
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Speaker 3: there is a level here where I just watched this
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Speaker 3: and felt I did feel like there was missing something,
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Speaker 3: because what I love it about Italian family is this,
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Speaker 3: they are un apologetically almost rude and not like they're
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Speaker 3: loving when you're inside of it. When you're inside of
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Speaker 3: that circle, you feel like you have the most love
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Speaker 3: in the world. When you're on the outside looking in,
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Speaker 3: especially on a first date, they're almost mean to you,
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Speaker 3: and that's okay once you understand what they're getting at.
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Speaker 3: And I wish they would have been a little meaner
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Speaker 3: to Grant, and I don't know why they weren't, because
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Speaker 3: I know they wanted.
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Speaker 5: To be that teaser that they had last week where
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Speaker 5: that you caught the dad's saying you're kissing.
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Speaker 4: My daughter in front of me or whatever did.
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Speaker 5: Seem so scary in the previews and such like a
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Speaker 5: jokester moment in real life, which was cute.
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Speaker 4: I like that moment. It was my Probably my favorite
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Speaker 4: moment was the day.
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Speaker 5: That and when the dad said I love him, I
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Speaker 5: love the guy like that.
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Speaker 4: Was really must have made Juliana feel really good.
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Speaker 2: It had to him.
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Speaker 3: I just I've been around Italians like one hundred percent Italians.
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Speaker 3: So when I first met Jess's family, her aunts, they
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Speaker 3: sat me at a table and they sat across from me,
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Speaker 3: and I was on one side of the table and
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Speaker 3: they drilled me and they said, we like you Ben enough,
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Speaker 3: but if you hurt Jess, we will hurt you. That
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Speaker 3: was how they opened my very first time ever meeting them.
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Speaker 3: And I remember leaving that being like, I don't know
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Speaker 3: what they meant, and I had to get it explain
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Speaker 3: to me because I've never been around.
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Speaker 4: That the mob was going after you.
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Speaker 2: I think they could have called upon him.
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Speaker 5: Okay, Can I just say that Jess doesn't strike me
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Speaker 5: as like uber Italian in any way.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, She's like this sweet southern bell to me.
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Speaker 5: She does not register Italian, big Italian Northeast.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, she doesn't feel comfortable in those, but she lets
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Speaker 3: her ants do what they want to do, right so
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Speaker 3: they she knows that they have an element to them
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Speaker 3: that she doesn't have, and I think she trusts it.
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Speaker 3: And I think when somebody like me walks in where
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Speaker 3: Jess is like I think I'm gonna marry this guy,
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Speaker 3: She's like he needs to be able to handle this.
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Speaker 3: I have a shirt upstairs when I left and they
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Speaker 3: gave me So here's how it kind of comes together,
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Speaker 3: is I left that and they said welcome to the
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Speaker 3: Italian family as they give me a T shirt that
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Speaker 3: had that on there. And I still have said this day,
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Speaker 3: but I missed in this hometown, and I don't know
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Speaker 3: what I mean. I don't understand exactly why didn't exist,
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Speaker 3: how they weren't harder on Grant, because the Italians don't
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Speaker 3: just let things go like this. The dad doesn't naturally
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Speaker 3: just say I love the guy. That's not a thing,
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Speaker 3: it's not well.
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Speaker 5: He did say, like I'm really concerned that you have
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Speaker 5: through other girls here, and like I'm worried that you're
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Speaker 5: gonna break her heart, which is you know, classic needs
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Speaker 5: to say on a hometown. Yeah, you're right, It wasn't
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Speaker 5: very intense. I was completely overwhelmed by the amount of
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Speaker 5: people though, at this date and at let's SEEA's date,
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Speaker 5: particularly this date, like when Juliana was rambling off how
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Speaker 5: many people were going to be there. I would have
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Speaker 5: been so intimidated if I were Grant, because I would
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Speaker 5: like want to feel like I was having quality time
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Speaker 5: with the immediate family that needs to know me the most.
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Speaker 5: And in this case, like I don't really think he
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Speaker 5: was gonna get like any really quality time or even
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Speaker 5: its just gonna be like.
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Speaker 2: Hellos, see can I mean this isn't about me?
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Speaker 5: You would have felt more environment because well you were
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Speaker 5: the bachelor, because so maybe in this bachelor scenario, this
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Speaker 5: would actually make you feel more comfortable because you don't
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Speaker 5: have to have the spotlight on YouTube.
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Speaker 2: Nuch, you don't.
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Speaker 3: I mean cayleb Quinn's day I remember was incredible. Remember
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Speaker 3: where the hotel I stayed in, where we went, who
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Speaker 3: are family was, Her family was awesome. But there was
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Speaker 3: only a small group of us together all day and
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Speaker 3: it was a lot of pressure because you are spending
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Speaker 3: all day with the same people and you're in an
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Speaker 3: environment where you can't you can be yourself, but you
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Speaker 3: have to protect your you know, the conversations that are existing.
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Speaker 3: I think when there's a lot of people, you can
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Speaker 3: kind of let loose and let everybody else entertain themselves.
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Speaker 3: It's like a party compared to a one on one.
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Speaker 3: It's a group be compared to a one on one, okay,
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Speaker 3: And so I think when it comes to the bachelor
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Speaker 3: world specifically, the more people the easier on the lead,
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Speaker 3: and I think in this environment, Grant I don't know
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Speaker 3: if Grant was at that point. I can't speak for him,
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Speaker 3: but it is easier to to not just be speaking
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Speaker 3: to the mom and dad all.
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Speaker 4: Day, okay.
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Speaker 5: And I want to say that I did like the
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Speaker 5: activity portion of this date where they went to make
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Speaker 5: pizza and the guy truly eemed like authentic to knowing
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Speaker 5: Juliana's and knowing the family, and then they went to
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Speaker 5: the pastry shop, like it felt like something that we
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Speaker 5: would do, like at my grandparents' house in Northern Jersey.
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Speaker 4: It felt very familiar and authentic.
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Speaker 3: I am going to say something that will probably be
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Speaker 3: controversial to the listener, and it could be controversial to
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Speaker 3: anybody as the bachelor, there was an element at these
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Speaker 3: hometowns where you I specifically, I don't want to say
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Speaker 3: that everybody did this, but I specifically paid attention to
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Speaker 3: how people responded to the like the contestant that I
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Speaker 3: was visiting. So how would the pizza shop maker respond,
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Speaker 3: Where would they bring me in their hometown and who
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Speaker 3: would know them there? And I think that a little
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Speaker 3: bit of that is because I'm from a small town,
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Speaker 3: so there's no place I go in WORSEU Indiana where
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Speaker 3: I don't know somebody working at the place that I
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Speaker 3: would bring a date, right, And I'm hoping that person
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Speaker 3: either like gives me a hard time or they celebrate
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Speaker 3: me or whatever. But at least they know me and
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Speaker 3: they like feel comfortable with me, because what it said
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Speaker 3: to me was they've invested into their community and to
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Speaker 3: where they're from.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, why why would this annoy anyone?
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Speaker 3: Because I think everybody else within this episode didn't have that.
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Speaker 3: She's the only one. Oh, yes, it was like everybody
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Speaker 3: else felt very distant from the date that they were presenting.
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Speaker 5: Yes, I thought this was the weirdest Hometown's episode because
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Speaker 5: it felt like we were at nobody's hometown except for Joe's.
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Speaker 3: That was why it would be controversial to listener, because
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Speaker 3: I know there's elements that came into play to cause
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Speaker 3: that to be the case, and those elements I don't think,
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Speaker 3: and rightfully so, we don't understand any of them, Like
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Speaker 3: we don't know the stories behind like why Zoe's like
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Speaker 3: hometown was the way it was. We know bits and pieces,
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Speaker 3: we just don't know the story. And that's fine. I'm
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Speaker 3: not mad about that. That's that's her prerogative, that's her
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Speaker 3: personal life.
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Speaker 2: That's cool.
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Speaker 3: But it felt like this was the only real hometown
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Speaker 3: that we got, yes to the point where it was like,
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Speaker 3: oh my gosh, pore Grant. He had to go all
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Speaker 3: over the country and like he didn't really end up
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Speaker 3: having a hometown date with any of these girls except
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Speaker 3: for Juliana. He ended up just meeting the family or
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Speaker 3: you know, meeting the closest people to them.
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Speaker 4: They could have flown as well. They wouldn't have flown
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Speaker 4: those people out. They would have obviously fen were in there.
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Speaker 5: But you know what I mean, Like the location didn't
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Speaker 5: seem to play at all.
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Speaker 3: There were locations never made since me now freaking Wyoming.
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Speaker 3: My family's had a ranch in Wyoming for my whole life.
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Speaker 3: You want to know how many airports there are to
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Speaker 3: fly into in Wyoming? Not many, Like there's not He
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Speaker 3: had to take a dry I don't know where he
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Speaker 3: was coming from. He might have fallen into the Denver
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Speaker 3: for that day and drove six hours. Maybe he got
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Speaker 3: some private planes.
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Speaker 2: I don't know.
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Speaker 3: But anyways, my I guess the controversial statement I was
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Speaker 3: trying to make is this out of all of them,
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Speaker 3: felt like the only hometown that actually existed. All those
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Speaker 3: others could have existed anywhere in the country.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree with you. I'm not going to heat
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Speaker 4: or anything.
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Speaker 5: I can tell you that, Like in my hometown, I
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Speaker 5: could walk into like the deli and they're not.
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Speaker 4: Going to know my name.
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Speaker 5: It doesn't mean that I'm not like, I don't feel
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Speaker 5: like I'm from there. It's just different towns call for,
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Speaker 5: you know, different relationships.
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Speaker 2: But you were made for a smaller town, all right.
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Speaker 3: So Juliana's day comes off and it's like, hey, she
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Speaker 3: should be here next week. No questions to me. Now,
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Speaker 3: was it the best hometown? Did it feel like everything
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Speaker 3: happened how we thought it would know? But it was
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Speaker 3: a great hometown. And I left that date feeling like,
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Speaker 3: she's going to be here next week no matter what.
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Speaker 3: So let's see who's not going to be here.
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Speaker 4: She's going to be in the finale.
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Speaker 5: I just feel like there's a huge discrepancy in this
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Speaker 5: episode between the two in the finale presumably and the
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Speaker 5: two that are not. And I just I still feel
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Speaker 5: like I know that they were saying basically like I
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Speaker 5: am falling in love with you I.
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Speaker 4: Don't feel a huge connection between the two of them.
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Speaker 3: Uh, it's I mean, if we're comparing based on this season, Ashley,
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Speaker 3: it's it's up.
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Speaker 2: There in terms of connections.
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Speaker 5: Well, yeah, I know, I'm realizing that that is the
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Speaker 5: problem to this season. I really don't feel a lot
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Speaker 5: of intense depth.
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Speaker 3: I have a theory and I'll share at the end. Okay,
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Speaker 3: I know who's going to be there in the final two.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I feel like anybody watching knows. Okay, okay, okay, fair.
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Speaker 3: Then let's take what we have is the preview, and
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Speaker 3: obviously we know that Grant is so conflicted at the end.
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Speaker 3: So if you and I are sitting here saying we
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Speaker 3: know who the final two are going to be, then obviously,
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Speaker 3: at the very end of this the final two that
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Speaker 3: we believe is going to be there, and Mark gonna say, man,
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Speaker 3: it will say it's the very end of this episode
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Speaker 3: he is so confus that he's falling in love with
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Speaker 3: both of them.
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Speaker 4: No, I'm very confused by this.
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Speaker 3: Okay, we'll talk about it later. Let's move on to
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Speaker 3: Zoe's hometown. Zoe was in both of our final fours.
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Speaker 3: We've had belief in her since the very beginning. She's
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Speaker 3: the only reason we can claim that our really baseless,
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Speaker 3: assumption based show that happens at the beginning of every
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Speaker 3: season has any merit because we both said Zoe will
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Speaker 3: be there in the final four.
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Speaker 2: We're right day, we're experts, we're right now. Zoe.
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Speaker 3: To me and Grant, they I'm shocked that she is
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Speaker 3: still here after this episode. It feels like they missed
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Speaker 3: the mark on every level when it comes to communication, intimacy, physicality, community,
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Speaker 3: Like it feels like they have no relationship to me.
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Speaker 4: Absolut freaking lutely bad.
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Speaker 2: Am I wrong?
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Speaker 4: That's exactly how I feel, Ashley.
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Speaker 2: I'm glad that you feel this way with me, because
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Speaker 2: I watch this again.
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Speaker 4: You watched it twice.
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Speaker 3: No, I've watched the whole No, I say, I'm watching
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Speaker 3: the whole season, and I watched this episode because there's
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Speaker 3: been this like character arc of Zoe that's untraditional to
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Speaker 3: any other story that ever exists in the world. Right
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Speaker 3: we have She's controversial, we feel like she's gonna be
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Speaker 3: a villain, and then she's lovable, and then she has
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Speaker 3: this connection with Grant and now she's like so we're
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Speaker 3: coming into this episode with this connection with Grant, and
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Speaker 3: we're loving on Zoe and we're like, we're so happy
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Speaker 3: she's here. So I'm waiting for that kind of pinnacle
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Speaker 3: moment for us to go of course, she's still here,
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Speaker 3: Like there's no question she should still be here. And
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Speaker 3: I watch this episode and I know her scenario is
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Speaker 3: different because of her, like what's going on with her
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Speaker 3: and her family right now and so many things we
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Speaker 3: don't know, but yet we're kind of reading through the
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Speaker 3: lines when we're knowing that there's some type of family
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Speaker 3: issue where her adopted family isn't gonna be there, and
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Speaker 3: that's great, that's fine, we understand that. So we're like, Okay,
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Speaker 3: we're gonna still focus on Grant and Zoe. And I
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Speaker 3: watched this Ashley and I watched this whole day, and
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Speaker 3: I'm like, they don't have anything.
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Speaker 4: No, there's nothing there. And the fact that she chose
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Speaker 4: to do.
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Speaker 5: The whole like model shoot with the bride stuff we
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Speaker 5: had like a wedding shoot, Oh my gosh, and for
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Speaker 5: her to be so little chemistry during that was just like,
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Speaker 5: this is so awkward. And I bet you it was
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Speaker 5: even more awkward in real life because we know how
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Speaker 5: the show can take like a fine moment and make
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Speaker 5: it look really romantic.
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Speaker 2: Put some music behind it.
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Speaker 4: They couldn't even make this look natural.
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Speaker 3: It was tough well and even some of the words
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Speaker 3: she was saying to her sister, She said, what I
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Speaker 3: love about Grant is he like, you know, I'm a
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Speaker 3: hard working woman.
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Speaker 2: Great.
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Speaker 3: I celebrate that you are a strong, hard working woman. Okay,
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Speaker 3: that's the baseline. She says. He likes the creative side
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Speaker 3: of me, and I think he likes the model side
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Speaker 3: of me. He'll take it all like why are they
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Speaker 3: two different things? You're one human? Like why do those
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Speaker 3: have to be separated?
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Speaker 5: Zoe?
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Speaker 2: Like, you were.
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Speaker 3: Both and that is beautiful and that is incredible and
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Speaker 3: that is such a spectacular thing for you to have,
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Speaker 3: is to be beautiful and creative and to be all
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Speaker 3: these things at once. But it's like, when you say that,
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Speaker 3: it makes me think that you're asking this dude to
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Speaker 3: love two different people, and I think you're two different people.
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Speaker 5: I didn't pick up on that, but I did pick
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Speaker 5: up on her sister being like, so, like, how do
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Speaker 5: you feel about him?
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Speaker 4: You know, like are you falling in love with him?
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Speaker 5: And she was like, I like him yeah, something along
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Speaker 5: those lines, and I'm like, okay, like, why is going on?
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Speaker 4: Just because you're both too hot people doesn't make this work.
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Speaker 2: It's not.
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Speaker 3: It feels like two hot people trying to make it work.
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Speaker 3: I'm shocked she didn't go home. When I said the beginning,
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Speaker 3: this is the most shocked.
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Speaker 5: Really this, I was like, what is he talking about?
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Speaker 2: She didn't go home. I thought for sure she would go.
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Speaker 5: Home, really, even after seeing Dinas Because after seeing Dina's
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Speaker 5: I was like, uh, they're tied. If not, Dina's was.
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Speaker 2: Worse okay, because there was.
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Speaker 5: Zero chemistry there too, and you could tell that he
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Speaker 5: was just like I have to like talk to your
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Speaker 5: friends and even pretend like this is like something that
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Speaker 5: might go anywhere. He was super thrown off at the
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Speaker 5: family not being around, which I can get. Again, it's
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Speaker 5: kind of like, why did you send me here to
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Speaker 5: just go to a pumpkin patch with your friends?
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Speaker 4: Please come to la I don't know.
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Speaker 2: But let's let's talk.
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Speaker 5: About Latia's date first. Yeah, it's Wyoming, which again we
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Speaker 5: get a brief and synopsis.
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Speaker 3: Let's be clear though, it's amazing place, so windy, so beautiful,
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Speaker 3: and what with.
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Speaker 5: Becca Tilley once to the tea pause ts yees yea
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Speaker 5: different part.
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Speaker 2: Of the state, but yes, very beautiful place.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, so they like like to meet here at We
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Speaker 5: don't know if it's this cabin or if they rented out.
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Speaker 4: This felt like it could have been like a rented
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Speaker 4: out cabin.
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Speaker 5: It was so extraordinary and if not, then it's like, okay,
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Speaker 5: so what's your family.
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Speaker 4: Do you have this random, huge ass mansion?
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Speaker 3: And you know, because she's talking about her grandma a
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Speaker 3: lot who her grandma couldn't be there obviously.
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Speaker 4: Well, her grandma has passed.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's what I'm saying, I'm putting it.
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Speaker 3: Okay, Well that's what they kept saying, is you couldn't
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Speaker 3: be there.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: For clearing that up, okay's gracious.
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Speaker 5: So maybe the grandpa, you know, he's like he looks
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Speaker 5: like a oil.
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Speaker 2: It's oil.
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Speaker 4: I was gonna say oil, but I was like, am
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Speaker 4: I being weird for this.
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Speaker 2: Oil Ashley?
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Speaker 4: Okay?
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Speaker 5: I was like, this feels like what was the show
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Speaker 5: with with Larry Hagman Dallas Dallas to Move.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, No, Like at some point this let's assume for
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Speaker 3: the sake of this conversation that this is their family ranch,
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Speaker 3: like this is their this is their fandy second home
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Speaker 3: where they can go visit and have fun at and
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Speaker 3: ride horses. Okay, a beautiful place, absolutely gorgeous. I love
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Speaker 3: seeing because I love Wyoming, I do. I think it's
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Speaker 3: one of the coolest places on earth. That's unlike that
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Speaker 3: nobody lives at And how do.
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Speaker 2: I see this?
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Speaker 3: Is it just mired the like did she shine this episode?
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Speaker 3: Like she just looked like she was glowing off the screen.
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Speaker 5: Okay, let me tell you this. I think she's gotten
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Speaker 5: prettier with each episode. The more you get to know
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Speaker 5: our personality.
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Speaker 2: Is that it is that what I'm feeling.
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Speaker 5: Okayah, I feel like I'm getting You know how when
17:52
Speaker 5: you're attracted to someone and you get to know them,
17:54
Speaker 5: their personality rocks. Yeah, they get more attractive to you.
17:58
Speaker 5: This even applies to like front chips. You're like, you see,
18:01
Speaker 5: somebody's soul obviously is beautiful. They come across as more
18:05
Speaker 5: attractable on the outside. And that to her. That's happening
18:08
Speaker 5: to me with her.
18:09
Speaker 3: Okay, I felt it this episode. I've always thought she
18:14
Speaker 3: was a front runner, at least since we started watching
18:16
Speaker 3: the show, But this episode, I was like there's no question,
18:19
Speaker 3: Like there's something about her this episode that is jumping
18:23
Speaker 3: off the screen at me where it's like there's no
18:25
Speaker 3: like he has to.
18:26
Speaker 2: Fall in love with this girl.
18:28
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's it's an incredible.
18:33
Speaker 2: Dynamic between the two of them.
18:35
Speaker 3: There is still the element of faith, and so that's
18:39
Speaker 3: the big storyline going into this.
18:41
Speaker 2: And he makes one.
18:42
Speaker 3: Of the most obscure statements at the beginning of this
18:48
Speaker 3: date that I've ever heard.
18:50
Speaker 5: Okay, he said that he was scared, and that she
18:53
Speaker 5: said he said, I'm not scared, and then it was
18:56
Speaker 5: like blah blah, blah blah, and then at the end
18:58
Speaker 5: he was like.
18:58
Speaker 4: Well I'm scared. It was like the biggest one.
19:04
Speaker 3: He says this statement, I'm still someone who sometimes likes
19:09
Speaker 3: to have a drink and.
19:10
Speaker 4: Have oh so fun, have fun. Oh my god.
19:13
Speaker 3: And I was like, dude, wait time out, buddy. I
19:17
Speaker 3: think you've been great Grant. I think you would be
19:20
Speaker 3: a dude that'd be great to hang out with. I
19:22
Speaker 3: feel for you. I want you to find love so bad.
19:25
Speaker 3: Let's say that the fact that you at any level
19:29
Speaker 3: are questioning if people of Mormon's faith don't like to
19:36
Speaker 3: have fun, if that is a question to you. Somebody
19:40
Speaker 3: needs to like shake you right now and say, hey,
19:43
Speaker 3: Mormons can still have fun too, buddy, Like they still
19:46
Speaker 3: have a good time. Like you aren't giving you aren't
19:50
Speaker 3: giving this thing up, Like the fun factor doesn't change
19:54
Speaker 3: if you marry into this family.
19:56
Speaker 5: That is so funny that that rang in your ear
19:59
Speaker 5: because that was something that like I chewed over for
20:02
Speaker 5: a second as well. Yeah, I'm like, okay, So this
20:06
Speaker 5: is just him kind of indirectly.
20:09
Speaker 2: Saying I have no clue what's going on in this face. No, no, no, no.
20:14
Speaker 5: To me, it's like being having fun means like doing
20:19
Speaker 5: like sinful things like getting drunk and hooking up.
20:23
Speaker 3: Oh so he's going to old school like evangelical route
20:26
Speaker 3: where he's like sex, drugs, and alcohol are gonna be
20:29
Speaker 3: talked about every youth group in the same like funnel
20:33
Speaker 3: and those three things are gonna be associated together for
20:35
Speaker 3: the rest of your life. So if you are gonna
20:38
Speaker 3: do anything like sex, drugs, and alcohol, if you're gonna
20:40
Speaker 3: think about anybody inappropriately, if you're gonna drink any alcohol,
20:43
Speaker 3: if you're gonna do any drugs, then like that's what
20:47
Speaker 3: fun is.
20:48
Speaker 4: But is he wrong in the sense of the Mormon faith,
20:52
Speaker 4: like that stuff doesn't go on.
20:54
Speaker 5: Really, he's wrong. They don't drink at all, right, not traditionally. No,
20:59
Speaker 5: But I also don't think that drinking and fun are equated.
21:03
Speaker 5: Like I'm trying to have plenty of fun without drinking.
21:06
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I'm trying to say.
21:07
Speaker 4: It's like sad to equate them.
21:09
Speaker 3: Yes, like not that you be shunned. And I think
21:12
Speaker 3: her family and we'll get to this did an incredible
21:15
Speaker 3: job at reassuring him that if he enters into the
21:18
Speaker 3: family without sharing the same faith tradition, he's still widely
21:23
Speaker 3: accepted and there's arms that are going to be thrown
21:25
Speaker 3: around him in love. So let's like preface it with that.
21:30
Speaker 3: But the fact that his mind goes to, wait, I
21:35
Speaker 3: still like to do these things at times, and that's
21:39
Speaker 3: what fun to me is, I think is the bigger
21:42
Speaker 3: question here.
21:43
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, yeah, I see that.
21:46
Speaker 2: I and I also just wish.
21:48
Speaker 3: I think the only thing I think of this day
21:50
Speaker 3: and the only criticism criticism I have of Grant within
21:54
Speaker 3: this day, and it could have still happened this show
21:56
Speaker 3: didn't maybe show it is I want him if this
21:59
Speaker 3: is a really like a concern of his if this
22:02
Speaker 3: is his, like, I want him to ask more questions
22:04
Speaker 3: about it, Like I want him to sit with the
22:06
Speaker 3: dad and be like, can you tell me more about
22:08
Speaker 3: like what it is that you guys practice, What would
22:11
Speaker 3: be important to you as I stepped into a relationship
22:14
Speaker 3: with your daughter on behaviors that I have and don't have.
22:17
Speaker 2: I think he would get.
22:18
Speaker 3: Some clarity and probably get some peace of mind on
22:24
Speaker 3: that he can still live his life in a way
22:28
Speaker 3: that he finds fun.
22:31
Speaker 2: Without you know, sacrificing the acceptance of the family.
22:37
Speaker 3: But that was a wild statement, and maybe it's just
22:39
Speaker 3: because like faith and religious practice is such an intrigue
22:44
Speaker 3: of mine. Is when he started by saying, you know,
22:48
Speaker 3: I have my concerns whatever, whatever, I still have some drinks.
22:51
Speaker 2: I still like to have a drink, and I like
22:52
Speaker 2: to have fun.
22:54
Speaker 3: And immediately the drink thing didn't affect me as much
22:57
Speaker 3: as the fun thing. And I'm like, you think Mormons
22:59
Speaker 3: don't have fun, Like, look at this family. Look at
23:02
Speaker 3: this freaking family. They love each other.
23:04
Speaker 4: When somebody says to me like, oh, I like to
23:07
Speaker 4: have a good time or I like to have fun,
23:09
Speaker 4: I'm like, Okay, who doesn't.
23:12
Speaker 5: That's my It's always been the way that I find
23:15
Speaker 5: people coded say I like to party, like I like
23:20
Speaker 5: to drink a lot and get a little rowdy, unless
23:23
Speaker 5: you're my.
23:24
Speaker 3: Wife, who never drinks, and her idea if I said, like,
23:27
Speaker 3: what do you think is fun, she would say, like
23:30
Speaker 3: going for a four mile run, coming home and.
23:33
Speaker 2: Watching a movie with my husband. Literally, that would be same.
23:37
Speaker 5: That's my fun, except for the run part, more of
23:39
Speaker 5: like eat on the TV with my husbands.
23:42
Speaker 4: But I think it's most people's coded way of saying like,
23:48
Speaker 4: I like to party.
23:49
Speaker 5: But anyway, I think it's interesting that you and I
23:52
Speaker 5: both held on to that line so much, and I
23:55
Speaker 5: wonder if they intended for that to cross people's minds
24:00
Speaker 5: or whether it's just like a throwaway concerned that he
24:02
Speaker 5: was just going to air out and like it's no
24:04
Speaker 5: big deal. I personally think that it was put in
24:07
Speaker 5: there for a reason.
24:09
Speaker 4: Because.
24:11
Speaker 5: My gut is telling me that this is going to
24:15
Speaker 5: be a bigger deal for him in the long run,
24:18
Speaker 5: and when it comes down to making his final decision,
24:24
Speaker 5: this is a huge factor in it. He's like, which
24:25
Speaker 5: lifestyle can I jive with more? Even though I may
24:28
Speaker 5: feel it more with that girl. I don't know if
24:30
Speaker 5: I could do this lifestyle. That's my guess.
24:32
Speaker 3: There's a few things that they come to mind here,
24:34
Speaker 3: and I do think this is worth spending some time on, Yeah,
24:37
Speaker 3: because I think she's going to be a front runner.
24:41
Speaker 3: He said some things. Then this is why I wish
24:44
Speaker 3: Grant would ask more questions in the midst of this
24:46
Speaker 3: kind of conversation, because I think he's an intelligent dude.
24:50
Speaker 3: I don't know what he feels comfortable asking and not
24:53
Speaker 3: asking within this environment, and anybody I know that's Mormon
24:58
Speaker 3: would not mind having any questions asked. So I'm hoping
25:02
Speaker 3: at some point they kind of tell him you can
25:04
Speaker 3: ask anything you want about us, like every stereotype that
25:08
Speaker 3: you've heard from us, every confusing topic that you've tried
25:12
Speaker 3: to understand from us, Like, you can ask it and
25:14
Speaker 3: we'll answer it confidently because this is what we've decided
25:17
Speaker 3: to do. I'm hoping he gets that confidence to ask
25:20
Speaker 3: the questions that are necessary, because he says a few
25:23
Speaker 3: things that feel immature when it comes to.
25:29
Speaker 2: Religious studies.
25:30
Speaker 3: One is he says, hey, but we still have like
25:32
Speaker 3: the base faith the same thing, right, Yeah, that's cool,
25:36
Speaker 3: Like so we're good.
25:38
Speaker 2: I'm like, that's true, Like.
25:39
Speaker 3: That isn't wrong, but like that's not the whole scenario, right,
25:43
Speaker 3: you have to ask more questions to understand what exactly
25:46
Speaker 3: that base faith looks like, because I want to know
25:49
Speaker 3: Grant from you, what is your base faith?
25:52
Speaker 2: So that's a big deal.
25:53
Speaker 5: His feels more like very general on the surface, and
25:58
Speaker 5: for her it couldn't be more Or is it bad
26:01
Speaker 5: to say the word niche?
26:03
Speaker 3: It's I think niche. I think niche. Well, no, I
26:06
Speaker 3: think niche and concentrated. There is a face system, So
26:12
Speaker 3: I think what you're saying is like there is a
26:14
Speaker 3: system in place that her family follows that is very
26:19
Speaker 3: specific in particular to.
26:21
Speaker 2: Why they believe what they believe.
26:24
Speaker 3: I don't think they're not going to be accepting of Grant,
26:27
Speaker 3: And I think he should have heard that during this
26:30
Speaker 3: whole family date, and I think that was very important
26:32
Speaker 3: for him to hear, is that, Hey, you can come
26:36
Speaker 3: into this thing man, like we're not asking you to convert.
26:38
Speaker 3: We're not asking to do anything more than love our
26:41
Speaker 3: daughter and help start this family that we so believe
26:44
Speaker 3: in and love. That's the baseline here.
26:58
Speaker 5: Can we just say how in interesting it would have
27:00
Speaker 5: been if he would have said, am I expected to
27:04
Speaker 5: convert if we're going to get married?
27:06
Speaker 2: I think it's really great question.
27:07
Speaker 3: I know, an amazing question for him asked is what
27:12
Speaker 3: are the expectations of me as a partner? Because the
27:16
Speaker 3: worst case scenario would be that he is surprised by
27:20
Speaker 3: this at some point in his life. He's just not
27:24
Speaker 3: asking the questions. And I do think it probably comes
27:26
Speaker 3: from a place of concern. Is what can I ask
27:28
Speaker 3: and not ask?
27:29
Speaker 4: Yeah?
27:30
Speaker 3: And I think that's very fair. Like Faith has a
27:33
Speaker 3: lot of like you're fearful of. He kind of see
27:38
Speaker 3: it when the whole family comes up and he's like,
27:39
Speaker 3: all right, who.
27:40
Speaker 2: All here is related?
27:44
Speaker 5: He was definitely like is there possibly like multiple wives?
27:52
Speaker 2: Yeah, He's like wanting to ask the questions.
27:54
Speaker 4: Do I have to have five kids?
27:56
Speaker 3: Like he should have just asked them to the father
27:59
Speaker 3: because the father was such a welcoming place and it
28:02
Speaker 3: felt like in that situation, anything that was on his mind,
28:05
Speaker 3: he could have asked, like, hey, I like got myself
28:09
Speaker 3: stuck there at the beginning when everybody come out to
28:11
Speaker 3: me and been like, who's all related here? That fine question,
28:15
Speaker 3: great question, But at some point he has to dig
28:18
Speaker 3: into it. At some point, he has to ask the
28:21
Speaker 3: questions that so many would probably be wondering outside of
28:25
Speaker 3: the faith, is is everybody.
28:27
Speaker 2: Here married to each other? Oh?
28:29
Speaker 3: No, that's not the case. Okay, cool, Like why have
28:32
Speaker 3: I heard that my whole life? And then somebody could
28:34
Speaker 3: explain it to him. Yeah, well, you know, like why
28:37
Speaker 3: is his family so big? Like that's the fun part
28:41
Speaker 3: also though, and I don't want to take this for granted,
28:44
Speaker 3: it's the fun part of like falling in love with
28:46
Speaker 3: somebody is you get to be be curious about their life.
28:50
Speaker 2: Listen, so maybe he'll ask it what he's more comfortable.
28:52
Speaker 5: We are also not maybe giving him the benefit of
28:55
Speaker 5: the doubt. Perhaps he asked this, he certainly was contemplating
28:59
Speaker 5: it and maybe felt like it wasn't even appropriate to
29:02
Speaker 5: talk about on TV mm hm, you know that's fair
29:06
Speaker 5: or maybe not on the first meeting, which I agree,
29:09
Speaker 5: like on the first meeting of a family you would
29:11
Speaker 5: never talk about things like that.
29:12
Speaker 4: This is just like a bachelor exception.
29:15
Speaker 3: And let's also give Grant some credit where I think
29:18
Speaker 3: we've see in the next day, which we'll move on
29:19
Speaker 3: to now.
29:20
Speaker 4: Except for can we talk about the grandpa moment.
29:23
Speaker 2: I love the grandpa.
29:24
Speaker 4: The grandpa was so which we established he's an oil typhoon.
29:28
Speaker 2: Yeah, we've we know about him.
29:29
Speaker 4: He's so wealthy, he's so sweet.
29:32
Speaker 5: The way that she told him the secret of like
29:35
Speaker 5: that she was following for him and then he didn't
29:36
Speaker 5: hear it, and then she just whispered it again.
29:39
Speaker 4: It was just like the realist, cutest moment.
29:41
Speaker 3: Well, and it's the grandpa I want to be because
29:43
Speaker 3: his response to her wasn't oh my gosh, I'm so
29:47
Speaker 3: excited for you. He's like, I hope it's going to
29:48
Speaker 3: work out, and like there was a wisdom in every
29:51
Speaker 3: word he said to her, I wish your grandma could
29:54
Speaker 3: be here. I haven't seen you be this way with
29:57
Speaker 3: anybody else. There is these words that he was saying
30:00
Speaker 3: that came from deep thought and a man that has
30:03
Speaker 3: practiced thinking before he speaks, and you could tell that
30:09
Speaker 3: in the midst of that, she felt very comfortable talking
30:14
Speaker 3: to him about that.
30:16
Speaker 5: And how sweet was it when she said, like, you know,
30:20
Speaker 5: he's different than my dad was, the dad that passed
30:23
Speaker 5: away when she was three months old, just absolutely tragic,
30:27
Speaker 5: and he goes, yes, your father was so easy to love?
30:30
Speaker 4: So is to love? Oh?
30:33
Speaker 3: Okay, final thought on this date, and this is where
30:37
Speaker 3: my lack of religious knowledge comes in. The mom is
30:47
Speaker 3: in having a conversation. They talk about fantasy sweets, and
30:51
Speaker 3: she they talk about fantasy sweets, she says, if he's
30:55
Speaker 3: you know, intimate with anybody else, it would upset me,
30:58
Speaker 3: which I think we see is going to be a.
31:00
Speaker 2: Storyline for the next episode for sure.
31:03
Speaker 3: I felt like the mom handled this in a way
31:06
Speaker 3: that I did not expect by saying, have you actually
31:10
Speaker 3: thought through this? Are you willing to Like I don't
31:13
Speaker 3: know what her words were exactly, but it's like, pretty much,
31:16
Speaker 3: are you willing to give him the benefit of the
31:18
Speaker 3: doubt and open your mind to whatever happens in the
31:20
Speaker 3: fantasy suites because this is such a unique week now.
31:24
Speaker 3: That is that to me was a very interesting statement
31:28
Speaker 3: coming from a storyline where faith has been such a
31:32
Speaker 3: focus for the last two weeks, because it.
31:35
Speaker 5: Sounds like the mom would not necessarily encourage her to
31:42
Speaker 5: shut off if he's intimate with anybody else, exactly like
31:45
Speaker 5: if he was to be the mom wouldn't hold that
31:49
Speaker 5: against him necessarily.
31:50
Speaker 2: That's what I took from it.
31:52
Speaker 3: That's what I took from it, and I thought that
31:54
Speaker 3: was one and a healthy perspective from a parent. We
31:57
Speaker 3: don't hear that very often. So I was like, Mom,
32:00
Speaker 3: kudos to you. This is such a weird week, Like
32:02
Speaker 3: what an amazing like mindset you're giving your daughter. Not
32:06
Speaker 3: that he should be, I'm just saying that you're leaving
32:08
Speaker 3: her open to make decisions based on whatever happens this
32:12
Speaker 3: next week. But two, then I had to check it
32:15
Speaker 3: against the storyline that's been happening for the last two weeks,
32:18
Speaker 3: which is my family is are very very very faithful conservative,
32:25
Speaker 3: like foundationally like like practicing their faith. And I thought
32:32
Speaker 3: that was an incredible like mom moment where she sat
32:35
Speaker 3: with her daughter more as a friend, as like adult
32:39
Speaker 3: daughter to friend mom, and just poured wisdom into her
32:43
Speaker 3: instead of like momming her which I think is so
32:46
Speaker 3: common during these days and pressuring her to think one way.
32:50
Speaker 3: I thought her mom in that like, I wanted to
32:52
Speaker 3: lift her up and be like you, you've not only
32:55
Speaker 3: implemented this thought to your daughter's head to stay like open,
33:00
Speaker 3: but also you continue to pour under her where her
33:03
Speaker 3: values and traditions lie.
33:05
Speaker 2: Yeah, an incredible parenting moment that we can all learn from.
33:08
Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree, totally agree, Bravo, perfect words, Ben.
33:12
Speaker 2: There we go, all right.
33:13
Speaker 3: Final hometown of this week was one that fell completely
33:17
Speaker 3: short and obviously left with somebody going home. Didn't expect
33:21
Speaker 3: her to go home this week, especially after the Zoe date.
33:24
Speaker 3: As I said, Zoe is very very much now at
33:27
Speaker 3: this point in Category three. To me, I think there's
33:30
Speaker 3: no question that when it comes to the finale episode,
33:33
Speaker 3: we're going to know who the File two are. If
33:35
Speaker 3: it's not, I'll be shocked. But this date is still
33:39
Speaker 3: something to talk about because that happened this week.
33:42
Speaker 2: The family is not for this bachelor situation. Ashley.
33:47
Speaker 3: I'm going to make a personal statement on this. Yeah,
33:50
Speaker 3: that again will probably ruffle feathers.
33:54
Speaker 2: I think I.
33:55
Speaker 3: Think there's nothing about I think there's nothing good about parenting.
34:02
Speaker 3: When your child chooses to do something and they've entered
34:06
Speaker 3: into it to where you say I'm not going to
34:08
Speaker 3: support it. I think there's only one way that goes,
34:11
Speaker 3: and that is the child feeling like they're unsupported, which
34:14
Speaker 3: is how she felt this episode. Yeah, no matter if
34:17
Speaker 3: you like it or not, even if Grant has to
34:19
Speaker 3: show up to your house. And you're like, I don't
34:20
Speaker 3: like the fact that you're dating all these other women.
34:22
Speaker 3: I don't like the fact that my daughter won on
34:24
Speaker 3: the show. I don't like the fact that she's even
34:27
Speaker 3: here with you. I think that's a better scenario, yeah,
34:31
Speaker 3: than what existed during this episode totally.
34:33
Speaker 5: You can sense that, even though she's very confident in
34:37
Speaker 5: her delivery all the time, like this made her feel
34:39
Speaker 5: like a little bit embarrassed and then it's just going
34:41
Speaker 5: to brush off really quickly.
34:42
Speaker 4: I would have at least wished that some of the
34:45
Speaker 4: siblings she has eleven siblings, and you're telling me that
34:48
Speaker 4: eleven of them were like, no, we're gonna side with
34:52
Speaker 4: mom and dad on this. That makes me.
34:54
Speaker 5: Sad, That makes you do makes me feel like she
34:57
Speaker 5: is like alone in this, and it makes me really
34:59
Speaker 5: wonder her decision to go on the show.
35:02
Speaker 4: She had to have known that her family was so
35:04
Speaker 4: against it.
35:06
Speaker 3: Well that's the big question, right, So at some point
35:08
Speaker 3: this conversation had to have existed between them, and she
35:11
Speaker 3: chose to still go on the show even without anybody's support.
35:15
Speaker 2: That's one red flag. I would say.
35:18
Speaker 3: The second red flag is that, yeah, eleven siblings and
35:22
Speaker 3: like nobody else wanted to show up to support her.
35:24
Speaker 2: I think that's not a good move. I'm confused by
35:29
Speaker 2: this whole situation.
35:31
Speaker 3: And it felt like it was confusing to her too,
35:34
Speaker 3: And it did bring insecurity into her, especially when all
35:40
Speaker 3: the other women are talking about their dates and she's
35:42
Speaker 3: in there being like, I'm the only one. They didn't
35:44
Speaker 3: have anybody. I had my friends and I went to
35:47
Speaker 3: a pumpkin patch. Yeah, and I tried to make the
35:49
Speaker 3: best of a really bad situation.
35:52
Speaker 5: Dina, if you're listening this, I mean this to make
35:57
Speaker 5: you feel better. You were going to get eliminated either way.
36:01
Speaker 2: I think she sees that now, No, you're right, do
36:03
Speaker 2: you know what I mean?
36:04
Speaker 5: Like if your family did show up, Like, I still
36:06
Speaker 5: think you were going to get eliminated, and maybe you've
36:09
Speaker 5: been a toss up between you and Zoe, but like
36:12
Speaker 5: you were making the top two.
36:14
Speaker 4: What made me feel really awkward about this?
36:16
Speaker 5: And I know this is maybe tomb but like it's
36:19
Speaker 5: a hometown episode, right, so you kind of think that
36:21
Speaker 5: you're gonna do what you would do in your hometown,
36:24
Speaker 5: show in places that mean something to you. The fact
36:26
Speaker 5: that they went to the pumpkin patch on top of
36:28
Speaker 5: her family not being involved made me feel really even
36:31
Speaker 5: further disconnected to this being a hometown because they went
36:35
Speaker 5: to something seasonal that she didn't even make it seem
36:37
Speaker 5: like there was any connection to it, especially since it
36:40
Speaker 5: said it was a jack o lantern pop up, so
36:42
Speaker 5: it's not even there all the time.
36:44
Speaker 4: This is not even like a tradition of hers during
36:46
Speaker 4: the fall.
36:47
Speaker 3: Well you heard it, it happened late. I'm guessing the
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Speaker 3: show like on the way they heard that the family
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Speaker 3: actually wasn't going to do this, and they're like.
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Speaker 2: What do we do now?
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Speaker 3: Okay, who has five hundred pumpkins that week? And by
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Speaker 3: put up a sign invite the friends, let's figure something out.
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Speaker 4: I know.
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Speaker 2: It did feel disconnecting.
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Speaker 3: I think with your word's there actually like if she
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Speaker 3: heard this, it's not not true, and I think she
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Speaker 3: sees it now, right, So, yeah, she wasn't going to
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Speaker 3: win this thing. It's good that she went home this week.
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Speaker 3: There's no issues with her now. He loved the idea
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Speaker 3: of Dina. He was like, I love her passion and
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Speaker 3: her like drive.
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Speaker 5: It's like very attractive, but like he didn't feel romance
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Speaker 5: toward her.
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Speaker 3: No, But it was a weird date. It was a
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Speaker 3: date that felt unnecessary. She could have said, Hey, Grant,
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Speaker 3: how about this, I'll fly to you. How about you
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Speaker 3: and I have a day together, and I'll introduce you
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Speaker 3: to five of my closest friends in the city that
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Speaker 3: we're going to fly to. This felt unnecessary, and it
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Speaker 3: felt very much like the producers were thrown off guard
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Speaker 3: at the very end and they had to figure this out.
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Speaker 5: And then my last comment is that this is also
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Speaker 5: maybe ridiculous, but like if it didn't happen at a
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Speaker 5: pumpkin patch and it happened at a bar that they
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Speaker 5: go too often, I would at least felt like that
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Speaker 5: was home here.
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Speaker 2: I'm with you.
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Speaker 3: Well, at least they could have drinks. The rest of
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Speaker 3: this episode exists with Joey and Grant sitting down. Not
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Speaker 3: a lot that comes from that, other than Joey giving
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Speaker 3: him some sound advice on how to process the next
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Speaker 3: steps in this relationship. Then we do see the girls
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Speaker 3: catching up and Dina feeling at that point like she's
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Speaker 3: the only one who didn't give Grant a true hometown. Well,
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Speaker 3: Dina ends up going home at the end of this episode,
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Speaker 3: left with Litia, Juliana, and Zoe moving into the Fantasy
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Speaker 3: suite week, Ashley, you and I would both agree that
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Speaker 3: this is a two horse race, right, you're up. It's
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Speaker 3: Litia is Juliana, and we're gonna figure out who wins
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Speaker 3: at the end.
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Speaker 4: Yep.
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Speaker 5: Like, we say that with such confidence and we're not spoiled. No,
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Speaker 5: and guess what's happening next week, guys, because this, as
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Speaker 5: we said last week, this season is two weeks shorter
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Speaker 5: than a typical Bachelor season. But guess what we get
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Speaker 5: next week? Women tell all because we needed to put
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Speaker 5: that there.
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Speaker 2: It was it was so necessary.
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Speaker 4: It was way more imperative than Grant having another week
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Speaker 4: of dates.
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Speaker 2: I don't get it.
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Speaker 4: It's so weird. I know it's cheaper for them, but whatever,
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Speaker 4: we don't need it.
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Speaker 5: We absolutely do not need two hours of a non
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Speaker 5: really not that dramatic season being recapped and squawked at.
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Speaker 2: But we'll watch it. We're gonna break it down right here.
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Speaker 2: It's almost fantasy.
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Speaker 5: We will be here, you know we will. We don't
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Speaker 5: love that one, but we're gonna be here. And I
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Speaker 5: guess that's it for this episode. We appreciate you guys
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Speaker 5: listening to us every week until next time I've been Ashley.
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Speaker 2: And I've been Ben. We'll see you next week.
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Speaker 4: Bye.
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