Latest / Financial Survival Network / Price Wars: How Target's Strategies are Shaping the Industry -- Carl Gould #6077
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- 0:00Well, Target's customer clearly does not want to pay the continuously increased prices,
- 0:05and they say, listen, you're going to price us out. And what
- 0:08the clientele is telling Target is we like you for the other items. Oh,
- 0:12we don't need you for groceries. You want us to come in and
- 0:15buy every day, You're going to have to keep your prices lower because you
- 0:19know what, in some cases, eggs or eggs and milk is milk.
- 0:22And if you you know, I don't, I'm not going to pay a
- 0:24pri of just walk through your door because the milk with the same label on
- 0:28it is a little bit more money. You're listening to Carrie. Let'sa's Financial
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- 0:59watching the Financial Survival Network. I'm your host, Kerrie Lutz, good friend
- 1:03of the show. Carl Gould is back and Carl good news for consumers.
- 1:07Then Tarjay is cutting prices. How much further behind can Walmart be and the
- 1:14rest of them? Right, those with grocery grocery sections of their store,
- 1:21like Target, Walmart Aldi is another one who has done it. Target will
- 1:26most notably cut the prices of five thousand items, mostly everyday items. Now,
- 1:30if you want to buy ice cream, it's going to be more expensive.
- 1:33But if you're buying two other paper and twitt paste and shampoo and other
- 1:37consumables, yeah, those prices are going to be lowered, at least for
- 1:41the time b All right, So we should be grateful then, But what
- 1:45does that say about the economy and their business targets business. Well, Target's
- 1:51customer clearly does not want to pay the continuously increased prices, and they say,
- 1:56listen, you're going to price us out. And what the clientele is
- 1:59telling Target is we like you for the other items, or we don't need
- 2:02you for groceries. You want us to come in and buy every day,
- 2:06You're going to have to keep your prices lower because you know what in some
- 2:09cases eggs or eggs and milk is milk. And if you you know,
- 2:14I don't I'm not going to pay a prior and just to walk through your
- 2:15door. Because the milk with the same label on it is a little bit
- 2:19more money. I'm not gonna do it. Yeah. And then Target was
- 2:23always a little upmarket from Walmart, right correct, correct, And and and
- 2:28they cater to a slightly different clientele which has always appreciated the difference, and
- 2:34from a discretionary standpoint, would spend the ex trip. But right now,
- 2:38you know, customers vote with their dollars, and if they're saying, listen,
- 2:42I'm we're simply not willing to spend the money on a commodity item,
- 2:46everyday item, just for the convenience. So you're gonna you're gonna have to
- 2:52come back to us. We are going to stop chasing your higher prices,
- 2:55right yeah. Which, hey, it's kind of what the people are talking
- 3:00to the pollsters, you know, for the election. Right It's the kind
- 3:06of the same thing, isn't it. And no question about it. These
- 3:08are concerns. You know, for a period of time, the economy was
- 3:13much stronger, the inflation was low, it costs the cost of everyday items,
- 3:17the cost of borrow money was all cheaper. Now it's it's we've gone
- 3:22through some record highs. It's pulled back from there, of course, but
- 3:25it's still a lot more expensive to live your life. You know, most
- 3:30Americans lost at least seven to ten percent of their of their usable income to
- 3:37inflation. Yeah, so true. Hey, maybe more than that, maybe
- 3:40twenty percent in the last few years. Hey, if you live on fast
- 3:46food or you're a fast food sectionata, that's the right term, or maybe
- 3:51consumers probably it. The fast food prices got up seventy two percent. The
- 3:57value meal for McDonald's is now bucks right, yeah, exactly, And so
- 4:02yeah, the happy meal is not quite as happy right now. And we
- 4:10understand that. We understand that prices will go up. I don't no one
- 4:14likes it, but they understand it. But the rate at which it's gone
- 4:17up is alarming, and it starts to point towards lack of leadership. And
- 4:21that's what people are looking at. Leadership of the country, leadership of the
- 4:26leadership of these particular stores. You know. And if you've got target,
- 4:30it's it's very easy, you know, if you're winning or not, because
- 4:32people are either coming to the door or they are not, and people are
- 4:35doing the repeat purchases or not. You know, you can tell right away
- 4:41that's The nice thing about retail is your consumers tell you exactly who you are
- 4:45on a day in, day out basis. Now, if this continues,
- 4:47we are in an election cycle, and if this continues to stay, I
- 4:53it's not going to bode well for the incumbent. Hey, So yeah,
- 4:56like, let's not get political about it. But certainly the mood of the
- 5:00country is extremely sour. When you see Trump go into you know, South
- 5:08Bronx and New York and really hit the ball out of the park, that
- 5:13tells me there's something going on here in the country. Attitude and things are
- 5:19changing here. I don't know if they're for the better or worse. Like
- 5:24I say, I'm just making an observation, not based upon the polity,
- 5:29just upon the optics and the appearance of what's happening here. And know,
- 5:34hey, Florida is booming here. So everybody thinks the world's fine because most
- 5:40people don't look at the bigger picture. They look down the street. But
- 5:45Florida as well. Inflation is definitely a factor here, more so than in
- 5:49other states, because housing prices have not headed down, and housing it has
- 5:56become more and more unaffordable. Right. Yeah, And when you take all
- 6:01of that into account. Let's just take a step back for a second,
- 6:05and what have people been through the last three years. They've been through a
- 6:09pandemic where they were locked in their homes for approximately a year, not everywhere
- 6:14in the country, but certainly a good portion of it. And then after
- 6:16that there was a recession, and then after that there was inflationary measures.
- 6:21So people have been through a lot in the last three years. I mean,
- 6:25this is no This has been no joy run for anybody. Even in
- 6:29the most conservative of states, where there was the most freedom, even they
- 6:33have gone through a tough time. So you're, you know, the average
- 6:38person is looking for relief and they're saying, hey, listen, we're doing
- 6:42our part. We didn't start the pandemic, we didn't start the recession,
- 6:46we didn't cause the inflation. But we have been the ones asking to adapt
- 6:50to all of it, and we had no control over which direction all this
- 6:56went in. Well, guess what come November, they're going to start exercising
- 6:59control. Hey, And yeah, Like, like I said, I don't
- 7:02want to get into the politics. It's more the food of the country.
- 7:05What that means, And do you think that until the election happens we're kind
- 7:11of going to be in this like dismal kind of holding pattern. Well,
- 7:15I think I think you're going to see the Federal Reserve and the current administration
- 7:21doing anything they can to provide relief, and you're going to see that there
- 7:28are just certain economic forces that are heading in such a direction that it's going
- 7:31to be hard to you know, it's going to be hard to fight.
- 7:34I mean, we are short six million homes right now. So if we
- 7:40all stop buying homes and we told all the builders go at it, go
- 7:44get them. They have to build six million homes just to catch up to
- 7:46the demand, that's going to keep prices high. Right. We are short
- 7:50two hundred and fifty thousand truck drivers. Well, yeah, almost everything we
- 7:55have in our life touches a truck at some point, and two hundred and
- 7:59fifty thousand. We're two to fifty thousand short right now. So that just
- 8:03means get moving things from point A to point B. Buying a house or
- 8:07you know, cars, the fuel that you put in them, that's all
- 8:13going to be more expensive. And those are the things that we feel every
- 8:16day. And so that's yeah, there's just forces you can't control, you
- 8:22know, the supply chain is not all the way back. It's still a
- 8:26bit fragile. You know, we have the incident in Maryland at the bridge
- 8:30the Suez Canal, Panama Canal. There's a drought at the Panama Canal where
- 8:33they going. They're down forty percent of their capacity on a daily basis.
- 8:37It just makes things order to move around as quickly as we're used to.
- 8:43And so right now there's inefficiencies that are just beyond everyone's control. And the
- 8:48whole thing going on in the Red Sea with the Houthi rebels which has caused
- 8:52the companies to have to ship around the Horn of Africa and that adds ten
- 8:58days to off and all this taken as a whole. Yeah, like you
- 9:03said, Panama, the ships are backed up, they're having a drought,
- 9:07the lake levels low, and yeah, so isn't this going to have the
- 9:11effect of the further diminishing globalization? Don't you think that's the end result?
- 9:18Well, if you are the owner of a small to mid size business and
- 9:22you have the flexibility to you know, get a new sourcing for your materials
- 9:28or buy from a different vendor, you have the ability to be a bit
- 9:31more agile than some of the larger ones. So I would see small to
- 9:35mid market business community making some of these moves. So they don't always buy
- 9:41from Asia, they buy from the Middle East, or they buy from Africa
- 9:46or Europe or domestically, you know, in our hemisphere. So you're going
- 9:50to see some moves like that, just so people can de risk their supply
- 9:56chain and their businesses. So yeah, you'll see some of them, for
- 9:58sure. I find the whole thing fascinating because this is really uncharted territory.
- 10:03We never had this globalist economy before, and you know, it all gets
- 10:09up going and look, the consumers benefited from this, There's no question about
- 10:13it. Your consumer. But we could debate the quality of goods that come
- 10:18from other places like China, but this is a golden era for consumers,
- 10:24and in some ways it still is. But once you pull back from the
- 10:28globalization, that diminishes consumer choice and then you know, like maybe you have
- 10:35one thousand vendors on the Amazon of a particular good shoes, whatever, then
- 10:41maybe you're only going to have fifty, so it cuts your choice and with
- 10:45that, prices are going to go up. Right, Yeah, there's no
- 10:48question about it, no question about it. So the it is a it
- 10:54is a challenge, it's it's it's a bit of a shakeout of the market,
- 10:58if you will, and a good one. You know, these are
- 11:01the sort of thing if everything's perfect, we tend to leave them alone.
- 11:05But they're not. So things are going to evolve and we're going to see
- 11:09a slightly new way of doing business over the next few years that is going
- 11:13to hopefully overcome some of the challenges that are in the current system. So
- 11:16I wanted to talk to you about AI, all right, because that fits
- 11:20in here with this. And it looks like in another few years, you
- 11:26won't be driving your car, you know, the car will drive you.
- 11:30It'll be a robot on wheels. Everything is heading to this. I don't
- 11:33know if you saw the commercial or the video of that robot giving the guy
- 11:39an apple. You know, the guy says, I'm hungry, and he
- 11:43picks up the robot picks up an apple and hands it to him, and
- 11:46they says, clean this place up, and the robot puts the ditchs the
- 11:50dishes in a rack, and then he goes to the robott, how do
- 11:54you think you did? And the robot answers them back conversationally. I think
- 11:58I did pretty good. You said you were hungry. There was no other
- 12:01food here but the apple, so I gave it to you. You said
- 12:05to clean up, so I stacked up the dishes. I mean, man,
- 12:09if I could have gotten one of my wives to do this, I'd
- 12:11still be married. There you go. Well, AI is going. It
- 12:16is definitely a game changer, and the tasks that don't require our highest and
- 12:22best use or our highest skill are going to be done or are going to
- 12:26be automated or eliminated or be done robotically. There's no questions about it.
- 12:31Okay, So like driving, you know, the thing of being a driver
- 12:37is the largest quote unquote profession career in the country, whether it's limo,
- 12:43uber, uh, tractor trailer, you know, dropping stuff off. So
- 12:50what are those and there supposably there's ten million people doing those jobs. What
- 12:54are those people going to do? Carl? Well, you're over time,
- 12:58We're going to you know, there'll be types of driving jobs that will be
- 13:03eliminated. Well, look, if you put two hundred and fifty thousand trucks
- 13:05on the road right now that were autonomous, that's still that only covers the
- 13:09shortage of drivers. So we're a long way away from every driver being out
- 13:13of the job. And you know, no matter how much you autom me,
- 13:18the last mile is still a challenge. So there there will be jobs
- 13:22for truck drivers for the short routes. It's going to be you know,
- 13:28driving across the country and on major shipping lanes that they can autom me,
- 13:33but not necessarily. You know, someone try to get around New York City.
- 13:37That's that didn't think a little bit more time for that. That's a
- 13:41three point zero exactly. Yeah, I mean I use it myself. I
- 13:46got a Tesla and I don't have the latest, latest version yet that's coming
- 13:50any day. But man, like, this thing is really good. Although
- 13:56yesterday it made a left turn into oncoming traffic into a entrance of a parking
- 14:01lot. That scared the hell out of me. It really did, because
- 14:07it just came out of nowhere. It just did it instantly, and I
- 14:09was like, that shouldn't happen, right, And there's gonna be mistakes like
- 14:15that that happened. You know, they're gonna have to they'll overcome that.
- 14:18But there are definitely mistakes that happen. Yeah, But all in all,
- 14:22a net plus the lowers the costs, right, because you know, the
- 14:26more robots you have in the factory and the more the more autonomous production you
- 14:33have, the lower the price of goods. So maybe that'll make up for
- 14:37the globalization, I guess, is what I'm getting at. Yeah, well,
- 14:41and bactor, we can run twenty four hours a day, Yeah,
- 14:43yeah, twenty four to seven. And this robot might have taken coffee breaks.
- 14:48I don't know, maybe he's programmed to take coffee breaks and probably complain.
- 14:54You know, it's like as a boss, you got to miss the
- 14:58complaining and the the constant think, you know, harassment, the to and
- 15:03from your employees, right right off? Yeah, So all right, So
- 15:09when we have this conversation next year, where do you think this whole AI
- 15:13thing is going to be? Where do you think it'll progress to? Well,
- 15:16chat GPT five point zero is supposed to come out, and it's supposed
- 15:20to be as revolutionary as the other as the other versions, and it's supposed
- 15:24to dwarf what we see in four point zero. So I think you're going
- 15:28to start to see things that are already information related being automated. I think
- 15:35that's going to be the next step. Then you're going to see like mash
- 15:37transportation that will be automated. It's going to take a while to get down
- 15:41to the individual consumer, but I think we're definitely heading in that direction,
- 15:45and I think a year from now we're going to see a lot more autonomous
- 15:48cars on the room. Yeah, definitely. And you know, I look
- 15:52at it like there's certain problems that we have, like the traffic light problem,
- 15:58right, and that AI right now, it's it's not AI running the
- 16:03traffic lights. It's basically an algorithm, right, and it's based on stuff
- 16:08in the road. But once the AI goes into something like that and really
- 16:15optimizes it, you know, everyday problems like that, seems like they're going
- 16:22to have an elimited handle better. Right. So all right, hey Carl,
- 16:26we find you at carlgoul dot com. Howelse do oldgoul dot com.
- 16:30Best way to get me? All right, Well, appreciate you coming on.
- 16:33I always enjoy our talks, and we'll talk to you in a month
- 16:37or two and see where this once. You know what, when chat GPT
- 16:41five point zero comes out, we will use it for a little bit and
- 16:45we'll talk about it. Okay, for sure, looking forward to it.
- 16:48All right, Hey, you got a question for Carl myself kl at Carrie
- 16:52Lutz dot com. Linked to carl site is in the show notes to this
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