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DESTORM POWER - That's Not A Sandwich?! · Eating While Broke

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  Speaker 1: Hey, guys, welcome to another episode of Eating While Broke.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Colleen with your host, brought my apron, brought the
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  Speaker 1: girl streets. Let's go check out day Storm Power's house up. So, hey,
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  Speaker 1: go on in. This is for me, all right, come
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  Speaker 1: on in, Hey, welcome to you, broke as bitches to
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  Speaker 1: my home. I'm gonna straight up, We're gonna start up
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  Speaker 1: in here right here. Follow me on in here. This
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  Speaker 1: is my podcast last studio room. Um, so you won't
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  Speaker 1: get one of these when you're broke. You have to
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  Speaker 1: actually start making money, which I decided to do in life,
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  Speaker 1: and then I decided to get me a podcast from
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  Speaker 1: So this is why I shoot all of the music
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  Speaker 1: and all the podcasts and videos. If we walk over
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  Speaker 1: here inside this door, if I showed you what was
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  Speaker 1: in here, I'd had to kill you. So over and
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  Speaker 1: here if you want here. This was a garage, but
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  Speaker 1: I decided to turn this into the set of the
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  Speaker 1: Retro Show. It's really beautiful. I'm shooting my new series
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  Speaker 1: Everything Wretch. Well everything eighties, nineties and two thousand's happened
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  Speaker 1: on the Retro Show set. Now, most people they use
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  Speaker 1: this room as a garage, but fun that every room
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  Speaker 1: in your house has to be usable space. This is
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  Speaker 1: my illustrious UH Trophy and slash metal case by the way. Today,
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  Speaker 1: actually I got two new nominations for UM the Streaming Awards.
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  Speaker 1: The Streaming Awards is the biggest awards show for any
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  Speaker 1: type of digital content. I just got two new nominations.
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  Speaker 1: That's kind of dope. I got four streams. I've been
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  Speaker 1: nominated ever since. Streaming has actually used to look like this, y'all.
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  Speaker 1: They was shaped like bubble gum rappers, but they're not
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  Speaker 1: like that. This is my Emmy nomination. That's my YouTube
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  Speaker 1: when I hit a million back in twenty eleven. Now
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  Speaker 1: as we come into here, this is all my dining area,
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  Speaker 1: all the artwork I did that art piece right there,
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  Speaker 1: that's my artwork. And as we swing around, as I
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  Speaker 1: swing around here, this is my kitchen. And this is
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  Speaker 1: where we're gonna actually shoot eating while broke. And this
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  Speaker 1: actually kitchen right here. This is actually an amazing in kitchen.
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  Speaker 1: I need to do something with it. Now let me
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  Speaker 1: swing on around this way. You have my living room
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  Speaker 1: area right here. This area is used a lot. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know how big this TV is. I think it's like,
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  Speaker 1: I just say, give me a TV that's bigger than me.
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  Speaker 1: And I think they they successfully pulled that off, because
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  Speaker 1: when you broke, you don't get none of this stuff.
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  Speaker 1: So you get all the ship that you want when
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  Speaker 1: you actually become somebody. And I said, if I'm longer
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  Speaker 1: than the TV, I don't want it. This is the
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  Speaker 1: biggest selfie mirror in the world right here, by the way.
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  Speaker 1: I figured. I just grabbed one of these and put
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  Speaker 1: my hands and I don't even like taking pictures. I
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  Speaker 1: just had it because I got a lot of female
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  Speaker 1: friends and girls like taking picture, so I got it
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  Speaker 1: for them. I don't use it. Actually, nine in the
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  Speaker 1: house I don't use, by the way. So we're gonna
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  Speaker 1: go upstairs. This is artwork right here by my boy
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  Speaker 1: Don Benjamin. Right here you get the artwork on the wall.
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  Speaker 1: This piece of artwork was done by me. Piece of
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  Speaker 1: artwork on that room, my friendly am Viva the artwork.
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  Speaker 1: We don't say master bedroom anymore because black lives matter
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  Speaker 1: and we don't have masters anymore. So this is the
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  Speaker 1: premier bedroom. I decided that I was gonna put a
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  Speaker 1: share and end the leer in the bedroom, which was
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  Speaker 1: pretty cool. I like colors. Designed it all myself. I
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  Speaker 1: like the black and white effect that we brought to
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  Speaker 1: the room. I think it's really cool. And and this
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  Speaker 1: is my closet. It's it's a walk in closet because
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  Speaker 1: growing up, I think my closet stopped about here, but
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  Speaker 1: now I can actually walk back about twenty ft to
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  Speaker 1: actually have a closet with some some good space. Don't
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  Speaker 1: get a big closet because it's actually I don't even
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  Speaker 1: use a lot of the things in here, A lot
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  Speaker 1: of shoes and stuff like, I just don't use it.
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  Speaker 1: I got my affirmations, my twelve month ago affirmations on
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  Speaker 1: the on the wall. I gotta get five million in
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  Speaker 1: the bank or my Facebook accounts see my family and
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  Speaker 1: friends more because I don't see them much. I gotta
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  Speaker 1: sell two projects. I gotta released four new songs. I
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  Speaker 1: gotta reinvest in crypto. I got a lot of things
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  Speaker 1: that I have to do. Uh, let me see there's
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  Speaker 1: anything on here that's believable. I gotta get my podcast
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  Speaker 1: to a hundred thousand. I gotta direct four projects. And
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  Speaker 1: I gotta win an Emmy Award because I only have
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  Speaker 1: a nomination there. So that's that's my actual goals on
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  Speaker 1: the window as we work our way to this bathroom here.
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  Speaker 1: This bathroom right here is the only bathroom place in
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  Speaker 1: my house that has color. So I decided to make
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  Speaker 1: it every color in the rainbow without saying gay. I
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  Speaker 1: love gay, but I didn't want it to be gay.
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  Speaker 1: I wanted to be like colorful, you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: And this is what I came up with. When I
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  Speaker 1: put every color in this bathroom right here, I thought
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  Speaker 1: it was pretty damn cool. Then across adjacent to this,
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  Speaker 1: right across from there, you have the theater. So if
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  Speaker 1: you step into the theater room, uh, you gotta have
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  Speaker 1: a theater. So I decided to make this just in
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  Speaker 1: case I want to make some premiers or something. So
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  Speaker 1: I put a theater upstairs with a couple of shows
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  Speaker 1: that I did on the walls there. I thought that
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  Speaker 1: was pretty cool. This is a really important room because
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  Speaker 1: this room right here is every prop that we pretty
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  Speaker 1: much use. I gotta needify it. But we have everything
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  Speaker 1: from choir outfits to ban outfits. We have every mask
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  Speaker 1: you can think of, every color wig that you can
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  Speaker 1: think of, every hat, every top, we have cop outfits.
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  Speaker 1: We have tactical wear. We have skeletons, everything that you
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  Speaker 1: need for any type of comedy sketch that we collected
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  Speaker 1: over the years. We put them all into this this
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  Speaker 1: this closet right here. So that's basically I don't go
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  Speaker 1: to party city anymore. I just go into this closet
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  Speaker 1: if I need something for a sketch. I think I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna expand a little more when I get a chance.
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  Speaker 1: And uh, thanks for coming to my Oh one more thing.
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  Speaker 1: When you get a house, you've gotta have a book
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  Speaker 1: that you can pull that leads you into a club room. Right,
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  Speaker 1: so this is my uh I like to call this
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  Speaker 1: the boom Boom room, and this is where we have
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  Speaker 1: the pole and the things that go down. Whenever you
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  Speaker 1: get a home of your own. Yeah, so you gotta
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  Speaker 1: have a bone bone room. I don't even know you
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  Speaker 1: had this. I can't believe this a theater, a secret room,
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  Speaker 1: and all I do is push weights in your backyard.
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  Speaker 1: I would have been brought you upstairs. I don't even
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  Speaker 1: use the rooms in here. I told you I only
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  Speaker 1: use temper Center the house. We only watched two movies
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  Speaker 1: in there. I definitely don't use the boom boom room
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  Speaker 1: unless someone wants to come in and spend on the poe.
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  Speaker 1: You want to spend on the boat? No, I'm good,
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  Speaker 1: I'm good, But I want you to cook something to
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  Speaker 1: eat and tell us some of this behind the scenes
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  Speaker 1: of how you acquired all this. So why can you know?
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  Speaker 1: Maybe howse sit sometimes? Come on, you should have said
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  Speaker 1: it to that camera camera. Welcome to another episode of
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  Speaker 1: Eating While Broke. Today we decided to step outside of
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  Speaker 1: the podcast studio and into someone's house. Whose house they
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  Speaker 1: Storm Power's House, entrepreneurs, social media mogul. Here we are
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  Speaker 1: about to eat probably one of the brokest dishes of
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  Speaker 1: the season. So the broker the dish, probably the better
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  Speaker 1: the story. So the question is, day Storm, what are
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  Speaker 1: you gonna have us eating today? I'm gonna have us
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  Speaker 1: eating syrup soudes. Now, there's a science to the syrup sundwich.
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  Speaker 1: It has two ingredients. So you have your bread. This
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  Speaker 1: is for you, thank you, This is for me than
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  Speaker 1: we in the hood now right, yeah, and a mansion
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  Speaker 1: in the hood we share and you have your syrup. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: that's it. So do you want me to make yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Make one? Okay, this is how you make a syrup
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  Speaker 1: sundwich here I thought we would need. How you're done, Damn,
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  Speaker 1: I'm very impressed with your that's it. So now you
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  Speaker 1: just folded. I'll make me one bone like that, and
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  Speaker 1: you you do, you do this angle? You can. But
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  Speaker 1: what I do is I just take it and I
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  Speaker 1: just you folded a half. We don't get two pieces
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  Speaker 1: of bread. No, because you have family. Family has to
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  Speaker 1: eat too. Don't be standy. So you take it, you
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  Speaker 1: fold it in a half. Yeah, and then and then
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  Speaker 1: you eat it. Yeah, you eat it from the back
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  Speaker 1: because you've got to save the ends for dinner. Is
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  Speaker 1: this real? You save the ends for dinner? Yeah, well
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  Speaker 1: you can just you can just feel them off. Some
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  Speaker 1: people just like to put its pretty good because the
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  Speaker 1: ends are different. They have a different flavor to them,
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  Speaker 1: you know. So you pick the edges and that's like
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  Speaker 1: a totally different meal. Maybe if the middle is too sweet,
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  Speaker 1: maybe you use it to like soften the blow up
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  Speaker 1: the sweetness. No, because you just take the sweetness. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: look how the food comber. So therefore you don't have
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  Speaker 1: to worry about eating in the next day. Oh my god,
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  Speaker 1: that's a lot. I don't even I can't believe you
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  Speaker 1: just to eat this. It's crazy. I'm sorry. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if it's just too much syrup, but I'm surprised
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  Speaker 1: you made it to live. So that's where didn't this
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  Speaker 1: dish come from? Like what happened? What was going on
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  Speaker 1: at the time when you guys were consuming dinner ends?
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  Speaker 1: I think I think what happens is you run out
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  Speaker 1: of food. So that's where it starts. Know what? Um
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  Speaker 1: So we ran out of food and my mother knew
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  Speaker 1: someone who worked at the super market. At most supermarkets
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  Speaker 1: around the country, what they do with the bread that
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  Speaker 1: they don't usually throw it out, So because she had
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  Speaker 1: to connect, they would throw the bread out behind the supermarket.
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  Speaker 1: So we would just go and get the left over
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  Speaker 1: bread and then the certain we could just get that
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  Speaker 1: from McDonald's. We could get that from you know, KFC
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  Speaker 1: or any place. You know they have little surf packets.
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  Speaker 1: So do you take the serve package with the with
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  Speaker 1: the leftover bread, You've got something ill storm you were
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  Speaker 1: seriously that broke obviously, I mean, yeah, you know, how
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  Speaker 1: do you come from syrup sandwiches to please? Can I
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  Speaker 1: move in with you? It sounds amazing. This is just
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  Speaker 1: for the set a lot. It was just a lot
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  Speaker 1: of work, a lot of a lot of faith, a
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  Speaker 1: lot of work. And I had a plan hit it
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  Speaker 1: all in my head. You had a plan. But in
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  Speaker 1: that environment, sitting there with your siblings, how many siblings
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  Speaker 1: did you have? I have seven siblings, so there's eight
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  Speaker 1: of us, and so was my mother. The eight of us,
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  Speaker 1: my two cousins. My cousin had a child, so it's
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  Speaker 1: about thirteen of us in one So one loaf of
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  Speaker 1: bread last, one meal. I would assume dinner, we grab
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  Speaker 1: a couple of loaves and if he was lucky to
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  Speaker 1: get some bagels bagels last, because they thinker you get
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  Speaker 1: the bagels, bagels more dents. So if you get if
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  Speaker 1: you get the bagels, good for two days. What I
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  Speaker 1: love about your story is the fact that I can
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  Speaker 1: honestly say I was never this broke, and the fact
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  Speaker 1: that in your house, I'm assuming, did you guys see
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  Speaker 1: yourselves as poor or broke? No, it was cool and
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  Speaker 1: it was cool. We didn't. I think I think it's
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  Speaker 1: about who your parents is, right. My mother and never
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  Speaker 1: let us realized we were broke, because she would go
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  Speaker 1: to the drift stores and get us like a little
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  Speaker 1: puzzles and things to keep us busy while she would
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  Speaker 1: work in things. So we would have little odd jobs
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  Speaker 1: here and there, and she just kept us busy with
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  Speaker 1: what we did. So we never even thought about it
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  Speaker 1: being broke until someone like you brought it up there
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  Speaker 1: and this was the del I'm sorry, this was this
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  Speaker 1: is the new pancake dinner. Um, so what was the
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  Speaker 1: last time you eat this day? Um, it's been years.
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  Speaker 1: I haven't had I haven't had bread in in years.
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  Speaker 1: I don't need bread or right or any of that.
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  Speaker 1: Definitely don't need to serve classified. This is unhealthy. This
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  Speaker 1: is very unhealthy. I don't I don't need that all
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  Speaker 1: kind of Once you learn about nutrition, you don't touch
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  Speaker 1: this stuff. But back then you have to survive. You eat.
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  Speaker 1: I take a whole load of I had to. So
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  Speaker 1: when you're eating this, you're saying you knew you always
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  Speaker 1: had a plan. When did that plan hit you? I
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  Speaker 1: think the plan hit me when I um me and
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  Speaker 1: my brothers put it. We had a song that hit
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  Speaker 1: the radio in Baltimore, and we did in Bostibore. They
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  Speaker 1: have their own thing. They have club music. It's like
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  Speaker 1: DC has Gogol Music and Chicago has their own music.
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  Speaker 1: So we had made a song and it hit the
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  Speaker 1: radio and I knew. My mother said, wow, if you
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  Speaker 1: even make it, heaven think it anyway, go to New
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  Speaker 1: York and then we do a little party and then
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  Speaker 1: I just packed up you know the clips that we
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  Speaker 1: all pitched in for, and I joke to New York. Um,
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  Speaker 1: it was scary, but I knew. I knew once I
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  Speaker 1: got because I knew this one. I was doing all
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  Speaker 1: these jobs. I was doing forty fifty drops with different
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  Speaker 1: DJs around the treat. This is when the internet was
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  Speaker 1: like brand new. And then this dude he worked over
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  Speaker 1: and I think Bad Boy Records, and he was like,
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  Speaker 1: YEO want you to come out to New York And
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  Speaker 1: so I said, I believe them. So I kind of
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  Speaker 1: drove out to New York. I just took the drove.
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  Speaker 1: I drove to Harlem when I was like eighteen years old.
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  Speaker 1: I'm guessing you didn't have a lot of money. I
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  Speaker 1: don't have any money, So you drive there, you have
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  Speaker 1: enough to pay for gas. I had enough to pay
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  Speaker 1: for gas and um, so when I got there, UM,
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  Speaker 1: there was this website called sublet dot com. So when
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  Speaker 1: sublet dot com, I was leasing out this crackheads bedroom.
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  Speaker 1: She was she was cracking and all, and she would
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  Speaker 1: lease out of bar room. But she had a pimp.
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  Speaker 1: So eventually I wasn't able to pay his rent. So
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  Speaker 1: the pimp came to the door and he kicked me
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  Speaker 1: out of her apartment. So then eventually I had to
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  Speaker 1: live in my car. So then from my car, I
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  Speaker 1: was and I was singing in the subway for money.
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  Speaker 1: So you know in New York, you know, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I know the hustle. Yeah, So I was singing the
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  Speaker 1: subway and wrapping the subway so they would put money
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  Speaker 1: in my hat. So I and I would use that
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  Speaker 1: money to eat it too, paper gas because I needed heat,
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  Speaker 1: and the eating the car because the wintertime. Yeah, and
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  Speaker 1: winners in New York, you know. Joke. So did you
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  Speaker 1: ever apply at some point of Duscher measures? I always
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  Speaker 1: think this as a homeless person, like in New York,
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, I'm gonna just try to go to
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  Speaker 1: jail for the winter. Maybe, I don't know, because I
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  Speaker 1: had to be free so I could kind of so
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  Speaker 1: I could kind of like make moves, make move, make moves,
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  Speaker 1: so to make moves. So because I was working at
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  Speaker 1: Red Lobster as well. I was working at Red Lobster
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  Speaker 1: Times Square to fresciate it opened up because I had
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  Speaker 1: a job every I had thirty jobs, by the way,
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  Speaker 1: and and one of my jobs Red Lobster when I
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  Speaker 1: was in Maryland Baltimore, and they transferred my my job
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  Speaker 1: over to New York. But I lost that job the
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  Speaker 1: first week I was there because I had braids in
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  Speaker 1: my hair and the management racist, yes, short and sweet,
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  Speaker 1: you were like, I'm not cutting my brains. Like no,
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  Speaker 1: I was. You know I couldn't. We all read the Bible.
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  Speaker 1: We can't cut your hair. That's your power. So I
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  Speaker 1: didn't cut my hair. And I lost my job at
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  Speaker 1: Red Lobster that year, and and um with my last check,
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  Speaker 1: I brought amp. I bought that microphone. I brought two
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  Speaker 1: outfits because you know, in New York you have to
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  Speaker 1: look good. I brought the two outfits. I brought some
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  Speaker 1: tents for the windows of the car that I had,
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  Speaker 1: and what else on, and brought some CDs so I
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  Speaker 1: burned all my demos onto CDs. I tended the windows
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  Speaker 1: on my car myself. I brought the amp and the
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  Speaker 1: keyboard so I could sing in the subways. And I
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  Speaker 1: brought the two outfits so I could look good. So
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  Speaker 1: you were prepared. I was prepared. Oh and I paid
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  Speaker 1: my cellphone bill for two months because I say that
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  Speaker 1: if I don't do this in sixty days, my mom
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  Speaker 1: was gonna kill me. So she would call me and
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, Mom would did it right now? I
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  Speaker 1: didn't know, did it? You just didn't want to stress
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  Speaker 1: her out. Didn't want stress her out because she had
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  Speaker 1: things to take care of. So I thought I was
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  Speaker 1: killing the New York. I was homeless, so I'm in
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  Speaker 1: New York singing in the subways and everything. Then one
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  Speaker 1: day I came home and my car was burned down.
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  Speaker 1: I guess had electrical fire or something like that. Everything
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  Speaker 1: I owned was in that car. So eventually I had
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  Speaker 1: to actually live in the subway stations, and I had
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  Speaker 1: to do that for my forty five days or so.
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  Speaker 1: Damn that tough. At that point, did you at least think, mmmm,
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  Speaker 1: maybe it's something to go pack up and go back
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  Speaker 1: to Baltimore. Yeah, I did. Um And and when I
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  Speaker 1: got to the moment where I thought I'd go back
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  Speaker 1: to Baltimore, I remember I had these bags around my
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  Speaker 1: feet and I was walking through the snow, and I
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  Speaker 1: was like, damn, I'm gonna call my brother and tell
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  Speaker 1: him I didn't make it in New York, even though
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  Speaker 1: I was lying to them the whole time. So when
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  Speaker 1: I went to make a telephone call to call my brother,
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: I'm calling him up. And I remember when I'm singing
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: the subway, people give me their cards and stuff. So
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: when I went to make the car, one of the
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: cards that they gave me fall in the snow. I
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: picked up the car and I'm like, should I call
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: number on this card or should I or should I
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: just call my brother? Said I'm I'm gonna calling number
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: on the card. I'm already here. So I called him
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: on the card and this Dominican girl answers the phone.
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: It's like, oh my goodness, oh my girl, yo yo.
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: My boss loves them always dope you. And I'm lying
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: to her. I was like, well, if your boss let
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: my demo telling me, you pull up on me right now,
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: because I got these inter Music Universal records. I was lying,
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: but I can tell by her enthusiasm that she was serious.
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: So she said, no, no, let me put him on
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: the phone, so she put Jonathan on the phone. He
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: gets on the phone. He's like, Yo, day starm I
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: love your ship man. What's you come on down to
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: my my my joint? And I was like, yeah, I'll
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: come down there right now. He was like, I'm going
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: to the Hamptons. And I was like, well, you know,
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: I got these meetings over at Jake Records. I'm lying again.
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: He was like, no, come down here right now. I
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: didn't have money to get on the subway, so I
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: jumped the turnstyle. I caught the train down to the
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: Lower east Side. And when I get to his place,
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: he plaques all over his walls and everything, and he's like, yo, man,
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: I can get you drops on m t V, V,
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: H Want and b TV. I can get you right
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: for these arts. And I knew he was serious because
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: of the work that he had around. I was like,
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: all right, look, gonna be honest with you, John, to look,
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: I'm broke. I've been living on the street for like
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: forty five days. Did you at least you know? On
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: the course. So what I did like to shower in Macy's.
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: So I would take a shower in Macy's and then
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: how did you Because you wanted the sinks, you know,
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: they got to sing, you know, you clean up or whatever.
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: And then I would, you know, with a little bit
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: of money I made, sometimes I buy stuff. Well I
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: just used the five thing of discount and just you know,
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: get a couple of T shirts or whatever, and to
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: do what I had to do to get new outfits
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: so I look fresh. So he was like, no, you
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: look good. I was like, no, I've been on the
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: streets because you know, you gotta look good. So then
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: I was like, ye, look, I'll be honest with you
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: if you can. If you cut me in check right now,
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: I'll work for you and you get me off the
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: streets or whatever, and I'll give you what you need.
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: So he cut me in check, and eventually I went
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: from my hostel to an apartment, to um Aloft to
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: you know, working my way up. I started getting place
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: in some beach one MTV and I worked over the Universal,
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: went to Jay Records. From Jay, I went to Atlantic
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: I met with in Houston and J Records and Jeff Finster. Yeah,
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: so um wrote three songs that she never used. By
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: the way, Um, then I'm going to Atlantic Record. Did
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: you at least get to hear them. I got to
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: meet her and everything. Yeah, she said she started she
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: I met her everything, you know. So um So then
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: from there I went over to Atlantic Records, where I
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: wrote for a few hours and ghost right over here
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: for about two years. And then, um, I, uh, the
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: music slow, so I slow down because back then you
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: were a ghostwriter. So what I did was I all
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: the while I was running track and things like that.
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: So I got my certifications from Prepostnado. I got my
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: A C s M, I got my INN A s M.
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: Nastities are physical personal training on certifications, so you're always hustling, Yeah,
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: the personal trainer on the side, just in case the
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: music wasn't selling. So then I started a boot camp
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: in Brooklyn and I would train like fifties a hundred
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: people in the park in Brooklyn Park. And I was
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: working at the Crunch Fitness New York Sports Club. And
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: I was just doing different jobs in New York so
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: that I can kind of build my empire. Wow, what's
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: the craziest job you've ever had? Um? I was. I
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: was a stripper for a while when I was in
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: college and then but I would say the craziest job
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: I was an escort. So that was crazy because the demolition, construction, telemarketing. Um,
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: I had about thirty jobs. So I have to circle
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: back to the escorting, Like what's the craziest escorting story?
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: Do you have one? Um? Yeah, So when I was
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: an escort, Uh, it was a lot of It was
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: a bunch of old, rich white women, right, and they
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: didn't want to like can I curse? Curse? Okay, So
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: they didn't want to suck you, right, They just wanted
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: to kind of like just have company, right, I just
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: want a good company. I didn't really sleep with the
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: clients or whatever. And my pan was like this girl
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: she was like nineteen or whatever, and she was like,
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: you know she was a girl. Yeah, yeah, she was
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: making sure we worked. She's my friend. She was making
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: sure that we have worked. So I went to this
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: one woman's house and I guess she was about sixty,
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: I don't know. And I was so I was young
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: back then. She's like fifties, I guess, I don't know.
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: She felt old. And when I when I got to
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: her house, she um, she was like, he know, your
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: outfits upstairs in the closet, And I was like, my
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: outfits upstairs in the closet, so she was like yeah.
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: So she was sitting there with her wine in her hands.
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: She's sitting back like this and ship. And I'm like,
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: we even the outfits upstairs in the closet and then
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: just like go upstairs in the in the closet in
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: your office. So I ro was up to the top
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: of stairs. She lived in this mansion of ship. So
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: I got up to the top of the stairs and
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: when I opened the closet or whatever, there was a
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: panda outfit. So I had to wear a panda outfit
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: with the it was so fucked up, So I had
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: to wear a panta outfit with the mid section dog.
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: So like my dick's out and I'm just like staying
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: just like dancing in front of her, you know what
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, and she's just sitting up there and
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: just enjoying it, like, yeah, my husband doesn't have one.
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: And then she was just like, man, it was like
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: it was a it was a thing. Was that like
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: one of your last escort sessions? No? No, I think
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: my last one was after this woman blindfolded me. And
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: then so I see her at the door and she
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: puts a blindfold on me. I turned around and what
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: backwards into her house and ship. She lays down, ladies
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: me down on the bed and she starts reading me
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: like children's stories and ship. Oh yeah, I think that would.
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: I was. I was. I was, really, you know, So
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: how do you go from all these experiences and hitting
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: these little bomps side hustling and still saying, Okay, I'm
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: gonna keep going. Motivation? You know, Like, I think what
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: motivated me was seeing what my mother went through, and
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: I'm like, if she could take care of like twelve
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: people and she didn't complain once. I never seen someone
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: ever not complained like this woman. And she loved life.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: She would just have fun. Well, we're gonna have fun.
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: All of us is gonna go out. She never was like,
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: oh my god, the bills are not paid and we
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: were moving. I went to five elementary schools, four middle schools,
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: to high schools, so you gotta think we were getting
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: evicted so much growing up. I mean, I never knew.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: I dropped down to school in ninth grade. I didn't
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: even finish high school. I didn't do champ leven twelve.
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: I went back to go to college when I got
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: my g D and I got a free ride because
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: I was a sprinter. But I did never even finished
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: high school, don't even I don't even did prom or anything.
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: But she we were getting evicted the whole time, and
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: we thought that we would just move into a better place.
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: She's like, we moving again. Yeah, yeah, We're like, oh,
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: we moving again. She made it a moment instead of
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: making it the opposite, because most people will take that
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: experience and be like, oh man, we're getting kicked out.
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: She's like, we get to go and get some new
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: walls to draw one because every time when we get
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: a new place, I draw mirrors on the wall. I
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: was an artist, like all the paintings in my house.
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: I did most of the paintings, and like that one,
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: the one behind us, these paintings I did. My mother
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: knew that I loved art, and she just sit here
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: just drawing the walls. We're gonna be out here in
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: a few months anyway. So I would draw murals on
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: the walls, and eventually that paid off because by time
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: I was sixteen seventeen years old, I would get a
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: few hundred bucks, maybe a thousand bucks here and there
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: to actually draw in churches and the mosques and synagogues,
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: to draw like you know, the Last Supper and things
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: on walls and things so all that kind of like
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: just growing up. She would keep us busy and active
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: with what we did. So we never like we would
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: build forts and you know like mahm, I we get
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: no furnaces like brought sheets, just built forts, you know,
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: so we would do she would. She was just clever.
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: She was the perfect like mother. You know. So I
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: always do life. I just feel like I'm gonna figure
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: it out. I don't care what goes wrong. I'm gonna
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: look at what goes right and then I'm gonna figure
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: out how to make it work, you know, no matter
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: who I'm with, whether I mean, I've injured myself this
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: that another, And I remember when I broke my knee
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: and the doctor told me, he said, you'll never even
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: walk properly again. And you've seen me. You work out
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: with me, I'm jumping out, spreading, dunking basketballs out with you.
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: I don't let you know. So when she she was,
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: she had that same attitude. And although she didn't have
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: the business mind behind it like I do have, she
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: had the attitude that lets you know that I'm we're
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: going to be unstoppable, you know, and I think that's
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: very important. So now you've been around as an entrepreneur
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: and a social media mogal forever, it seems I feel
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: like every time a new platform comes out, you're like
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: so versatile. You literally, I, for lack of better word,
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: I feel like birth millionaires, like everyone in your circle,
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: you played a tremendous role in their success. So my
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: question is is how are you able to keep keep
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: transitioning every time something new new happens them? So, I
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: know I'm getting older, you know what I'm saying, I'm
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: them at forty, So like what so, what what I'm
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: gonna do is I find new people, new talent, and
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: then they're going to keep your name a lot, you
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. It's almost like the Gospel and
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: people continue to talk about Jesus, Jesus gonna be main Jesus,
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: you know. So I look at it like that. Every
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: time I find someone new that's talented, I don't want
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: to be your manager. I don't want to be your agent.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: If we're cool and we get along, I'm your friend
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: and it's a real friendship. You know what I'm saying.
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: I don't want anything from you and return. I already
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: know that if you I culdate a real friendship and
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: I made more millionaires than a lot of the like
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: Jay Z said, right, that's just what it is. So
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: tons of millionaires. And what I do is if they're
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: my friends. People going to have interviews with these successful people,
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: They're gonna sit at eating while broke and they're going
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: I was like, damn, you were like, yeah, how did
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: you get your start? They're like, oh yeah, they storm
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: helping me out. You know, he was the first thing
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: that kind of helped me get it to it. So
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: they keep my name alive. And at the end of
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: the day, if you're managing someone taking right, I can't
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: afford their rates anymore. Man technically I could, but I'm
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: not gonna pay them hundreds of thousand dollars post right.
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: They're going to post about it for free. If I
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: come out with a food company, if I come out
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: with a clothing brand, if I come out with new music,
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: all my friends that have helped becomes a scessible. They're
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: going to show love because I showed them love. Now,
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: how are you able to like when you look at
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: how many platforms do you transition from you went from YouTube,
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: started my space, YouTube to YouTube ye ye to Instagram TikTok,
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: But you remain I would like to say, in the
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: world of like boxing, it would be like you remain undefeated.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: You're always at the top. How are you able to
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: transition and choose the platform? I think I think what
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: it is is a lot of people don't realize that
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: there's a different audience on every platform. And although I'm
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: not the biggest on any platform, um one of the
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: best on every platform, if that makes sense. And you're
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: the most consistent, and I try to stay consistent, right
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: because on every platform there's a different audience. Like my
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: YouTube audience don't even know that I do. They know
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: me for my music, they don't even know that do
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: comedy sketches. I'll do comedy like this is terrible, you know. Yeah,
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: I've been doing this for years, bro. So when I
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: realized that years ago, I said, they're not coming out
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: of YouTube, the people on Instagram and not leaving Instagram, Well, lazy,
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: then I'm going to leave that platform. So I said, well,
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: then I'm just gonna have to grow in every platform.
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: So I'll just make sure I grow on Facebook. I'll
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: make sure I grow in Instagram and make sure I'll
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: grow on YouTube. And sometimes I'll just cross reference and
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: just put the same content on some But for the
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: most part, I try to say, what's the best thing
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: I need to do for YouTube, what's the best thing
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: I need to do for Facebook, What's the best thing
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: I need to do for Instagram? Because they're different worlds.
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: My YouTube content is not like my Instagram content because
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: YouTube is more of a cold following the people that
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: really like involved. Instagram is more like universal, you just
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: have everybody there. Facebook is like more family oriented, right,
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: It's like that's the people's from back in school and everything.
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: So you once you learn who the audience is, you
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: make the content for the audience. And how are you
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: able to depict that? Like, say, for instance, let's choose Vine. Okay,
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: how are you able You you killed Vine, and I
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: know there's an amazing backstory that you know, I want
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: everybody to hear about, um, but you killed line. But
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: how are you able to pinpoint that audience and cultivate
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: an amazing elite group of talented individuals. But I think
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: for me it was it was high schoolers, juniors and
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: seniors will are the people who decide what's the dope.
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: I don't care what anyone says. That's because you have
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: to understand freshman and sophomores want to be like juniors
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: and seniors once. Once you're finished being a senior in
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: high school, you go to college and life hits you.
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: You have to get a job, you have to do that,
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: you have to do the other. When you're in middle school,
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: you still trying to figure it out. Elementary school doesn't
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: really count, and once you've grown, you don't really count.
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: You're just doing what's hot. But when you're a junior
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: and you're senior in high school, that's the moment of
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: life when everything is just cool. You just don't want
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: it because it's fucking cool. You don't care, You don't
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: really have too many responsibilities. You do, but you don't. Right.
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: So I've seen what the juniors and seniors on. When
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: Vine came out, I was like, you know at the time,
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: and I was like, oh my god, Like the kids
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: are really on you know that. You know, they're on
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: this app not just because it's popular, but because it's cool.
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: They just love using it. So whenever they're doing I'm
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: like all right, I gotta kind of like get involved
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: and see what they're on. Yeah. So I would say
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: that juniors and seniors to me are tricky audience because
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: unlike elementaries kids that just buy into whatever Elmo, whatever
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: you put in front of them, middle schoolers that are
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: still trying to figure it out, and then everybody else
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: that's looking up to the junior and seniors, juniors and
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: seniors kind of know their power and they're like, don't
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: try to sell me this. I'm gonna find the crack
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: in the covie and the jay Z under the rock in. Yeah,
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: they're like the Nike, Like Nike always signed someone before
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: they propped there like oh right before you pop, here's
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: this check you know the end. I feel like, how
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: are you able to say this is the platform that
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: the juniors and seniors are going to buy into? Do
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: you wait like a couple of weeks? Because you're on it,
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: you you kind of can feel it, especially if you've
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: been doing something for a while. I think one thing
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: that I've been blessed with is the knock to know
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: of someone's still. I really feel when I see talent
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: and a lot of people like we don't see no talent.
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: How do you see talent that person? I don't know.
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: I just whether And it's not just the talent to
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: sing or rapid dance or have a specific skill set.
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: It's the talent the most I feel the hardest talent
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: in the world is keeping people's attention. So like if
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: you look at the Kardashians, for example, I think they're
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: very talented because a lot of people can't keep people's
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: attention for a decade just people watching you. You know
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying, that's very difficult to do. Not a
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: lot of people might say, oh my god, they don't
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: do nothing. Yes they do. They got millions of people
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: just watching you. You know how hard is they have?
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: People just want to see what you do. And that's
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: a talent in itself, and they did it for a
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: long time, but forever, you know what I'm saying. Little here, No, it'swhere, right,
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: His ass on Instagram is asked, on YouTube, there's asked,
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: there's free ass on porn hub, right, So it can't
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: be just the ask right, So it's it's more than
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: that to be able to keep people's attention. So I
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: see that in people and I'm like, Wow, this person
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: can keep my attention because I have a very very
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: short attentions. Man, if someone keeps my attention, I'm like,
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: oh my god, then they have it. They have it.
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: And then if you have an ability to come along
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: with it, whether you sing or dance or wrapper or
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: speak or anything, then you're just doubling it down on on.
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: You're going to be a star, you know, And that's
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: that's what it is. So I know we got a
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: wrap up scene. Okay, I have to hit you with
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: this when it comes to vine, Okay, I want to
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: hear the rise in the fall. Now we're friends. I've
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: heard you know some of the behind the scenes when
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: it came to buying, but I would love it if
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: you could share how one misstep on UND's behalf took
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: down an entire platform. So we're vying um. One thing
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: that we did was I was I was, I was before,
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: I was before the times. When it comes to short
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: form comedy and sketches, I was doing short form sketches
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: on YouTube, like really short form, and no one wanted
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: to accept it. It was like this is whack. No
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: one wants to do this, Get out of here. And
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: I remember my company failed and we lost millions of dollars.
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: I mean, we did. The companies just flopped and I
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: was like, wow, like what am I going to do?
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: But I had already had a lot of people looking
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: up to me, like you know, it's like this is
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: what you know we looked up to you. You have.
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: A company was called Forefront TV like Batch, and we
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: had like you know, the whole squad was good and
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: Page Kennedy and all the all of the guys are
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: mostly the black and brown creators who that you see
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: today or on the internet. But I was the president
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: of the company and I kind of felt like I
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: failed them. One day, I think I saw Kevin Hart
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: on on Vine and he wasn't doing comedy sketches or anything,
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: but it was an app that people would do short
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: selfies to let you know where they were. Type down,
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: Hey guys, I'm out here this way man. I was like, yo,
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: suppose we do a sketch in six seconds on the platform.
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: I said that everybody would watch it and and it'll
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: be something that's different for the world. So I remember
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: me Batch, my boy Kane and Small Shepherd. We did
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: the first actually sketch online and it went super viral,
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: like world start picked it up. Whole bunch of other
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: places pick it up, but we did like a sketch.
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: So then we called ourselves viners, which wasn't a phrase yet.
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: It was like your way out here vining with the
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: l A Viners. So then Detroit got involved in New
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: York and um, you know, Philly and Florida, and then
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: it became vining became a thing that we kind of created.
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: So we started vinding and then from there the problem
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: was as we grew on Vine, we have millions and
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: millions and millions of fans. Remember even Badget Broke Againness
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: world record for the most followers of Againness gave him
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: a black or something right. And then what happened was
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: I went to Karen over at Vine. That's funny, my
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: name is Karen, and I said, uh, Karen, because on Vine,
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: what happens if enough kids flag your content, it automatically
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: gets pulled down. So I emailed Karen. I said, Karen,
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: we're the biggest viners in the world, and these kids
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: are pulling down our content and then it's not inappropriate,
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: it's appropriate content, but their haters pulling down our content.
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: We just want an email from you guys. So that
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: we can contact you and let you know, this is
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: our content getting pulled down. Can you put it back up?
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: Because we lose our momentum and this is our job.
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: Companies are coming to us paying us six figures to
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: post bones, maybe given a hundred thousand dollars for one
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: vine just so they can have like a background in it,
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: or companies like they would just pay you for what though,
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: to create a six seconds to create a six second company,
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: whether it was you know, bad just different companies that
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: was big at the time, or just pay us like
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: his fifty tho dollars give us six seconds, hundreds give
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: us six seconds. It was just one of those type
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: of things, right And at this point they didn't want
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: to give us that, and we said, we also want
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: one more thing. We want to be the link out
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: to our other accounts or whether me, YouTube, Facebook or whatever.
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: They said no. So I was like, well, we are
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: the you know, the people are coming to watch us
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: with the reason that the after lives. She said, you're
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: the one percent. There's nine percent of people using our platform,
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: and you are the one percent. We're not going to
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: do that for you. I said, well, I suppose I
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: told the one percent to walk. Well, then what are
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: you gonna do? Well, you tell the one can sit
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: to walk? We still go, oh, all right, bitch, I'm
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: gonna call the one percent. So I called up you know,
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: by a hundred of the top creators in the world
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: Vine at the time, and I said, oh, We're not
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: gonna do this no more. Let's go and walk and
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: go over Instagram. I got fifteen seconds anyway, So we dipped.
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: And when we dipped, I think the company got fifteen
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: seconds anyways. Yeah, so when we dipped, the company lost
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: about sixty percent of their profit in the legend. Within
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: a week, Vine crashed. I mean you been looking at it,
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: Remember they lost couple hundred million dollars and they like
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: fell off. So then Karen calls me up, Hey, thanks
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: a high. Can I have a meeting with you guys?
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So we probably met with
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: Karen on at sixteen hundred Buying Street, which is where
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: a lot of the Viners stayed. Hilariously, um, and we
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: set in the conference room myself with twenty other viners,
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: and I told her in that day, I was like, look,
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: you know, if we want to continue to use your platform, once,
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: I want you pay everybody in the room, you know,
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: a million dollars and I want two million dollars for
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: for pain and soffer. So um uh. They agreed to
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: pay all the viners in the room the money, and
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: we were supposed to post two vines a week to
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: get the numbers back up. But someone in the room
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: at the time told fifteen others about the deal, and
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: those fifteen others wanted moneys too. But it's like, we
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: don't have forty five million dollars. We got twenty, so
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: they wasn't able to pay. So no one ever went
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: back to mind and buying Die damn Karen. So at
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: one point you didn't mention that like you were you
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: you were a millionaire, you had success, and then at
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: one point you lost twice up twice. I remember. I
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: mean one time I had like seven million dollars on
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: my account and then I went down like seven seven
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: thousand and things. What are you thinking at that time? Um?
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: I was like, yo, I'm not as broke as I
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: was when I was in New York, so I could
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: get it back again. There was more money than I had.
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: It's more money when I had when I was living
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: in the subway. So I was like, I know the blueprint.
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: I just gotta figure out and not make the same mistakes,
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: you know how like you fixing? A part of it
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: was like, maybe this is my time to be broke
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: because I've been. You weren't embarrassed, No, like I'm gonna
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: go from living in the in the hills coach. I
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: wasn't because I think what people have to realize is
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: like when you look at success and becoming successful, you
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: ask yourself, what's the worst thing that can happen if
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: you take this chance? And the worst thing that can
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: happen is you go back to where you were. And
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: I was already there, and your mom did make it
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: seem painful, right, So I've already been here, So how
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: can I be afraid of something that I've already seen?
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It's like someone trying to
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: shock you and you're surprised, and then they try to
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: do it again. It's like, yeah, I don't know, You're
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: gonna be right there, So I'm not shocked. I just
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: got to figure out how to get around this obstacle
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: so that I can move forward. There's times when I
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: go through financial problems like everyone does. You know I
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: no matter what skill or level you are, you're going
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: to see financial hardships because you have finance, you have
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: the franchise tax board, you have the I R s,
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: you have things you invest in that don't go well.
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: Many invest because in order to continue to be successful,
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: we have to make big investments and take big chances.
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: That's just what it is. You can't be safe. So
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: at the time, if I'm taking a big chance and
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: I invest a million dollars into something that it doesn't
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: come through, It's like, oh, ship, Now what am I
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: gonna do? Now? I gotta figure it out. I wasn't afraid,
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: so closing out like what are some like pieces of
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: advice or maybe some golden nuggets that either carried you
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: through or that you would give to someone that doesn't
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: get the opportunity to meet you and get your blessing
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: of support in person. I think the most important thing
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: for most people's consistency. You have to be consistent because
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: they're going to be people, friends, family, people in your life.
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: They just don't believe in your dream. You just think
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: just won't And the crazy your dream, the more successful
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: you'll be. There's times where where I dream big, but
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: I didn't even drink big enough, Like when I got
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: the Emmy nomination, for example, I remember standing in the
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: CBS with What's Good and then he was like, yo,
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: I said you I'm gonna get an Emmy nomination next year.
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: He said, you don't even do TV content. I said,
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna get it off the internet. He say really.
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: I said yeah, we'll figure it out. And I got
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: the nomination, and I punched myself because I didn't ask
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: for the actual win. I only asked for the nomination,
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: which is what I got. So I think you have
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: to ask for the biggest things in life, and when
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: you ask for those things, they'll come to. You just
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: have to figure out how to get there. Consistency is key.
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: You have to believe it wholeheartedly yourself, because if you
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: don't believe it and you're doubting yourself. I never put
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: negative shit out into the atmosphere. I'm always it's scared.
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: You can't. You can't get scared. Get scared. You can't.
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: But why because again, what's the worst thing that happened
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: to And this is not that expensive goods on the episode.
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: So consistency is key. And just finding your lane and
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: stop and not doing what everyone else is doing. You
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like, I know my lane. I
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: could have went other routes once I got successful, but
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: I said, why not to stay in my length? Yeah,
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: you know, I love it. I love it. I think
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: you're a blessing to this community. I think you're a
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: blessing to so many young people. Um, the fact that
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: you take your time and I as a personal friend,
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: you know, I come to your workouts. I'm always I'm
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: always the last one putting behind. But the fact that
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: you take time and you just you look past. You
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: don't look at someone for their wallet or you know
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: their background. You're just like, come as you are. And you,
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: Joe Jackson, they asked a little bit, you know, Joe
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: Jackson is sometimes you need that. So I need somebody
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: to kick your ass. At the end of the day.
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: You're getting moving forward, ye aren't you. I mean you
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: was fit at last time. I showed up rolling poly
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: and walked away like thirty pounds later. Last time, I
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: produced the whole baby, and now I'm small again thanks
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: to you. Just work. I mean, I'm gonna cut you
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: all every day. But what you're gonna call you on
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: up showing up. Well, thank you so much for your time.
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: I appreciate you opening up your home, letting us tour
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: your home, and hopefully, you know, one day with you
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: out of town, you know, maybe I could house sit
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: you never know, never know. Yeah, I think I'm gonna
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: buy the house next door and then put a tunnel
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: that leads front of the walk way over to that house.
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: I hope to get there. I really hope all my
• 40:24
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• 40:31
  Speaker 1: figure out how to move next door. Insidational salves about
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