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Curb Your Podcast - Episode 39 · The Steve & Jeff Show

0:03
SPEAKER_00: Well, hey everybody.
0:04
SPEAKER_00: Welcome back to yet another exciting episode of the Steve and Jeff Show.
0:08
SPEAKER_00: I'm Steve.
0:09
SPEAKER_00: And I'm Jeff.
0:10
SPEAKER_00: How's it going?
0:10
SPEAKER_00: Steve?
0:11
SPEAKER_00: Hey, Jeff, Jeff.
0:12
SPEAKER_00: It is so amazing.
0:13
SPEAKER_00: The response we've gotten to that the listener email show that we did last week.
0:18
SPEAKER_00: That is just it's overwhelming.
0:20
SPEAKER_00: We'll have to do another one soon with all these emails we've gotten.
0:23
SPEAKER_00: We've gotten so many from lots of people who don't listen to the show, who think they might be indicted.
0:29
SPEAKER_00: It's just it's all it's spilling over, Jeff.
0:31
SPEAKER_01: It's unbelievable.
0:32
SPEAKER_01: And if there's one thing about our listeners, they're good at listening.
0:35
SPEAKER_01: They listen.
0:36
SPEAKER_01: I'll tell you listen.
0:37
SPEAKER_01: Some of those don't listen.
0:39
SPEAKER_00: Listening's a skill.
0:40
SPEAKER_00: It is.
0:40
SPEAKER_00: It is.
0:41
SPEAKER_00: It's an acquired skill.
0:42
SPEAKER_00: And they take the time to listen and they respond.
0:45
SPEAKER_00: Well, that one guy kind of wasn't listening because he asked all these questions that obviously if you listen to even a couple of the episodes, he would know the answers to most of those questions.
0:54
SPEAKER_00: But most of those listeners, I digress, most of those listeners were pretty much on track.
0:58
SPEAKER_01: I think so.
0:59
SPEAKER_01: Um, although I wasn't really listening to what you just said because of Googling something for our show, you know.
1:06
SPEAKER_00: Well, you haven't developed that skill, you know.
1:08
SPEAKER_00: I have not.
1:09
SPEAKER_00: I think that's part of what gives what gives you the edge in these interviews, Jeff.
1:14
SPEAKER_00: I think the fact that you don't really pay attention is you don't care.
1:18
SPEAKER_00: And well, and and you don't care.
1:20
SPEAKER_00: I think that's a key factor.
1:22
SPEAKER_00: Both of those are key factors.
1:23
SPEAKER_01: Well, and I don't know which is first, you know.
1:25
SPEAKER_01: Do I not care first?
1:27
SPEAKER_01: And that leads me to not listening, or because I don't listen, I don't care.
1:32
SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
1:33
SPEAKER_00: That is a real conundrum, which can also be used to prevent disease, but that's this real conundrum.
1:38
SPEAKER_00: And that's right.
1:40
SPEAKER_00: And I I think I would say it's probably because you don't care that comes first.
1:46
SPEAKER_00: That I don't listen.
1:47
SPEAKER_00: But maybe, maybe not.
1:49
SPEAKER_00: Maybe it's a non-listening that leads to the non-caring.
1:53
SPEAKER_01: It's it's somewhere in there for sure.
1:55
SPEAKER_00: You know, and and and Jeff, even even way into the future, and you know, of course, I I am from the future.
2:00
SPEAKER_00: I do know that.
2:01
SPEAKER_00: Even way into the future, I don't think there's a good answer for that.
2:05
SPEAKER_00: Humankind has not developed to the point where they know the answer to that question yet.
2:10
SPEAKER_00: That is that's it's amazing.
2:12
SPEAKER_01: I think in the long run, I don't really care.
2:14
SPEAKER_00: So whether we get an answer or not.
2:16
SPEAKER_00: So you're throwing it out there, but to prove that you have this syndrome, you actually don't care about the answer.
2:22
SPEAKER_00: And if I told you, you wouldn't listen anyway, right?
2:24
SPEAKER_00: That's right.
2:25
SPEAKER_00: You are so right.
2:26
SPEAKER_00: So it works out.
2:26
SPEAKER_00: It works out perfectly.
2:27
SPEAKER_00: Well, Jeff, you know, tonight, tonight we've got somebody that might be able to help us with some of the answers to these tricky questions, some of these big issues, some of the major issues, some of the key issues, some of the gargantuan issues, some of the Germanic issues.
2:42
SPEAKER_00: And I don't even know what that means, but some of the some of the bigger issues that people are dealing with out there.
2:49
SPEAKER_00: Here, let me let me tap the glass here, Jeff.
2:51
SPEAKER_00: Over on the other side of that glass, we have a very distinguished guest tonight, Jeff.
2:56
SPEAKER_00: You're gonna have to try to listen to this guy.
2:59
SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna try.
3:00
SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna try.
3:00
SPEAKER_00: Really distinguished now.
3:03
SPEAKER_00: He knows what he's talking about.
3:04
SPEAKER_00: There's a a Dr.
3:05
SPEAKER_00: Armand Lubethrower, I think that's his real name.
3:08
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
3:08
SPEAKER_00: Who would make that up, right?
3:10
SPEAKER_00: I mean, it's got to be his real name, right?
3:12
SPEAKER_00: Uh-huh.
3:12
SPEAKER_00: Uh he is a professor of historianics at uh Cathartic State University.
3:17
SPEAKER_00: I know you're a big sports fan, Jeff.
3:19
SPEAKER_00: You you follow the Cathartic Criers.
3:21
SPEAKER_00: They've had kind of a sad career, I think.
3:23
SPEAKER_00: But it's getting better.
3:26
SPEAKER_01: Just complainers.
3:27
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
3:28
SPEAKER_01: Well, this guy sounds interesting.
3:29
SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
3:30
SPEAKER_01: I think it's probably his real name.
3:31
SPEAKER_01: I don't think he took it from anyone.
3:33
SPEAKER_00: Well, yeah, I if he took it, I hope he didn't pay a lot for it, but but I digress.
3:39
SPEAKER_00: But to show you how distinguished this guy is, he holds the Charles Foster Kane chair in histrionics and sand volleyball at Cathartic State.
3:47
SPEAKER_00: Wow.
3:48
SPEAKER_00: And he wrote a book that hopefully he's going to provide so much enlightenment on this book.
3:53
SPEAKER_00: He wrote a book called What You Don't Know Can Hurt Me: Macro Obsession and the Unconscious.
3:59
SPEAKER_01: Interesting.
4:02
SPEAKER_00: Before we get started, we really should kind of lay some groundwork for some of the issues that we're going to be talking to this distinguished professor Lub Thrower about.
4:09
SPEAKER_00: Now I don't want him to just be able to slide off the hook, so to speak.
4:12
SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean?
4:13
SPEAKER_01: No, no, I don't at all.
4:15
SPEAKER_01: And now when we say cathartic, what are we saying, Steve?
4:18
SPEAKER_01: Because that's a pretty big word.
4:19
SPEAKER_01: And you know, we have good listeners.
4:21
SPEAKER_01: I don't know if we have people who are really good with language.
4:24
SPEAKER_01: So how would you break cathartic down?
4:27
SPEAKER_00: Well, cathartic goes back to the cathars, which was which was a heresy from like early Christianity.
4:32
SPEAKER_00: And so I think this is a religious school, but it's a heretical religious school of the because I I broke it down differently, Steve.
4:39
SPEAKER_01: I I thought there were three words in that.
4:41
SPEAKER_01: Um, as I'm writing, it's cat, right?
4:44
SPEAKER_01: Har and Dick.
4:46
SPEAKER_00: So it's veterinarians that are like a little obsessed with their cats, you know, with their with their patients, you know.
4:53
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
4:53
SPEAKER_01: Well, hey, Steve, what's the name?
4:54
SPEAKER_01: What's the name of that cult that that group that dresses up like animals and furries or the fuzzies?
5:02
SPEAKER_00: Furries.
5:03
SPEAKER_00: There you go.
5:03
SPEAKER_01: So in a way, this could have been the name of the team, the furries.
5:07
SPEAKER_01: Right.
5:07
SPEAKER_01: The furries.
5:08
SPEAKER_01: If we you and I were involved, I think we would have renamed it the furries.
5:12
SPEAKER_01: Well, and it's it would have made sense.
5:14
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, just I don't want to say this too loud, but look at the other side of the glass.
5:17
SPEAKER_00: I won't even tap it because I don't want to.
5:18
SPEAKER_00: He's he's like reading right now.
5:20
SPEAKER_00: I don't want to get his attention.
5:21
SPEAKER_00: But look, is he he's wearing a costume, isn't he, Jeff?
5:25
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, what is that?
5:26
SPEAKER_01: Is that a squirrel?
5:27
SPEAKER_01: I don't know if it looks as well.
5:29
SPEAKER_00: It's the world's biggest squirrel I've ever seen.
5:31
SPEAKER_00: Man, I saw some huge ones in Toronto one time, but oh night they were like they weren't this big.
5:36
SPEAKER_00: Oh man, they were like this guy is poo.
5:39
SPEAKER_01: I have no idea why when you say that you've seen some large squirrels that I just automatically think sexual.
5:46
SPEAKER_00: Ah, it's that thread.
5:47
SPEAKER_00: It's that thread, Jeff.
5:48
SPEAKER_00: You know, you just keep pulling that thread, you know, because this we've it is.
5:53
SPEAKER_01: I used to have I I remember my old friend in college used to say that you could take any word and make it sound dirty.
5:59
SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
6:00
SPEAKER_01: Like if you're like if you're yeah, if you were talking about having sex with somebody, you'd say, like, you know, I'd like to storm her.
6:06
SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah.
6:06
SPEAKER_00: Want to soak the soap, you know?
6:08
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
6:11
SPEAKER_00: Right?
6:11
SPEAKER_01: It doesn't have to make any sense.
6:13
SPEAKER_01: No, no, and uh plumb the thumb.
6:15
SPEAKER_00: I mean, you know, it it's just yeah, yeah, anything could could be taken there.
6:19
SPEAKER_00: You could get there.
6:20
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I like that.
6:21
SPEAKER_01: Although, Steve, you know, I have a history of I think you probably know this that I have gotten in trouble in the past for being inappropriate and talking inappropriately sexually.
6:31
SPEAKER_01: It's never been my fault.
6:33
SPEAKER_01: But oh no, yeah, but I was wondering if this guy could help us since he is a hard cat thrower, whatever he is, but maybe he could help me because I think I need help.
6:44
SPEAKER_01: I I don't know he if he's the guy that's gonna help me, but I'm just so sophomoric.
6:48
SPEAKER_01: Well, you know, I just everything looks funny to me.
6:51
SPEAKER_00: You know, Jeff, I I think this is the doctor that could help you.
6:54
SPEAKER_00: I mean, just like Dr.
6:56
SPEAKER_00: Reinerstein gave you the new nose, and you know, it's looking good.
6:58
SPEAKER_00: Jennifer Aniston there, you look just look just like her.
7:01
SPEAKER_00: Well, minus the hair, but you look just like her others.
7:04
SPEAKER_00: Well, yeah, just like he helped you with that nose.
7:06
SPEAKER_00: I think maybe Dr.
7:08
SPEAKER_00: Loopthrower can help you with that problem.
7:11
SPEAKER_00: But I I think really to do it, and going back to listening, I mean, really to provide good answers, you have to really ask good questions and listen, right?
7:21
SPEAKER_00: So I think I think maybe we need to lay out the issues before we even talk to Dr.
7:27
SPEAKER_00: Louet Thrower, you know, you know.
7:28
SPEAKER_01: Well, give me a yeah, give me an example, Steve, of what you think the good doctor could help us with and what the issues might be.
7:36
SPEAKER_00: Like what's the category?
7:38
SPEAKER_00: I didn't read the book, I gotta tell you.
7:39
SPEAKER_00: I did look at it and it's got it doesn't have really interesting colors on the cover.
7:43
SPEAKER_00: It's got a lot of text and didn't even really read the whole title, but I, you know, Tippi printed it off for me.
7:49
SPEAKER_00: So yeah, all right, I'll read it.
7:50
SPEAKER_00: But I I think what he does is he he helps people to understand themselves differently so that then they act differently.
7:59
SPEAKER_00: So I think it's a real key is just understanding some of the things that have happened and then taking those to the good doctor, the lube thrower, if you will, and seeing if we can slide some solutions into it.
8:14
SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
8:16
SPEAKER_01: I do.
8:16
SPEAKER_01: So now I get it.
8:17
SPEAKER_01: You were you said he was the professor of histrionics.
8:22
SPEAKER_01: I thought it was hysterectomies.
8:24
SPEAKER_01: It's actually the root word of history, right?
8:26
SPEAKER_01: Right, exactly.
8:27
SPEAKER_01: Where you used to be, what you did in the past, and how you want to be better in the future.
8:33
SPEAKER_00: Right, exactly.
8:34
SPEAKER_01: Is that kind of what we're talking about?
8:35
SPEAKER_00: It's kind of like history, except it's a more involved, the more emotional view of history.
8:40
SPEAKER_00: You know, histrionics, very, very important area.
8:42
SPEAKER_00: Well, and I have a lot of regrets, you know.
8:44
SPEAKER_01: I mean, just in general, I have a lot of regrets, Steve, not counting tonight.
8:48
SPEAKER_00: Don't regret tonight yet.
8:50
SPEAKER_00: There's always tomorrow.
8:51
SPEAKER_00: There's tomorrow.
8:51
SPEAKER_00: Regret it tomorrow, don't worry.
8:53
SPEAKER_00: But you know, now maybe a good way to develop this discussion with the good doctor is to lay out some of those regrets.
9:02
SPEAKER_00: I mean, Jeff, I've got some regrets too.
9:03
SPEAKER_00: So maybe, maybe if you lay out a regret of yours, I'll that might spur a discussion of regrets and and something we can take to the doctor.
9:11
SPEAKER_00: So, like I'll show you mine if you show me yours.
9:15
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, kind of like that.
9:16
SPEAKER_00: And I'll show you my soap regret yourself.
9:20
SPEAKER_01: I'd like to get my hands on that regret.
9:22
SPEAKER_00: Soak the soap, yeah.
9:24
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I'd like to soak that soap.
9:25
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's part of my regret, is that I I just can't control myself and I don't know what the reason is for that.
9:32
SPEAKER_01: And I have these random thoughts, you know.
9:34
SPEAKER_01: I'm Ubering.
9:35
SPEAKER_01: So while I'm Ubering, I'm like thinking, like, you know, how some people they're thinking, like, why is the earth round?
9:42
SPEAKER_01: And why does it the sun come up in the in the east and set in the west?
9:48
SPEAKER_01: But I think about stuff that I I just don't know if I could even discuss it with people because it's just comfortable.
9:56
SPEAKER_00: You can discuss it with our listeners, they are the best, and they listen as we saw.
10:01
SPEAKER_00: Well, some of them don't listen because some of them didn't know basic information, and some of them even admitted, hey, I never listened to your show.
10:07
SPEAKER_00: So hey, but but I digress.
10:09
SPEAKER_00: Some of them do listen, and those who listen, Jeff, they will understand.
10:14
SPEAKER_00: This is the best audience, and you've got the doctor right at the other side of the glass here, you know.
10:19
SPEAKER_00: You're right.
10:19
SPEAKER_01: Okay, all right.
10:20
SPEAKER_01: I let me just throw out something that I was thinking about today.
10:23
SPEAKER_01: I was driving around and I was thinking about sex, you know, but I was thinking, yeah, I was thinking about whether like self-examination, like you were you were talking about how you know, learning from the past, but you know, also learning from others, like being a good listener, like when somebody says to you you have bad manners, then you know that you have bad manners, and then you can work on that, or you smell bad hygiene.
10:51
SPEAKER_01: You know, I mean, I've I've had those things where I've listened and you know gotten substantially better, and you've grown and you grew from that experience.
10:59
SPEAKER_01: I have, and I think I've gotten better, but how do you really know whether you're better, whether the person that you're even talking to knows whether you're better or worse than your how do they know that you don't smell anymore or that you do smell, or that you might have had they might have faulty smelling totally, and they might smell.
11:21
SPEAKER_01: I know, and I bring that up, Steve, because more than once I've had comments about sex with some of the people I've partnered with as to whether I was a a uh I don't know how to put this, uh, a good lover, uh whether I can fling the jello, so to speak.
11:37
SPEAKER_00: Oh, that's a critical question because that jello fling the jello is so important.
11:42
SPEAKER_01: You you want you want to be good at that, you know.
11:45
SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
11:45
SPEAKER_01: Um yeah, you know, whether I can plug in the outlet, you know, that that kind of those kind of questions.
11:51
SPEAKER_01: And sometimes I get positive and sometimes I get negative responses.
11:55
SPEAKER_01: I don't know if it's true or not.
11:57
SPEAKER_01: Uh you know, I don't know.
11:58
SPEAKER_01: What do you think, Steve?
11:59
SPEAKER_01: Do you ever have that ever run into that?
12:01
SPEAKER_01: You don't with me, but with yourself.
12:03
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, no, I've I've but I've I I've wondered about that too, because I've always been told that I'm fantastic, but you know, really?
12:10
SPEAKER_00: Am I really?
12:11
SPEAKER_00: Maybe there was an ulterior motive.
12:14
SPEAKER_00: Maybe there was, or not even ulterior, but maybe there was a different way of thinking.
12:19
SPEAKER_00: Maybe they didn't want to offend me.
12:21
SPEAKER_00: Maybe they were just saying, oh, well, it's easier just to say, yeah, yeah, you're fine, rather than tell the actual truth, right?
12:27
SPEAKER_01: It's right.
12:28
SPEAKER_01: So basically, you're saying you don't want to ask, put somebody in a bad position because they don't want to talk about it and they love you or whatever, or they like you.
12:37
SPEAKER_01: So they say something nice to you, but you don't really know, right, whether it's true or not.
12:42
SPEAKER_01: So then maybe you choose some anonymous person to have sex with that doesn't know you, but then they may be mean to you on right, and besides that, how do they know what you know who died and made them the sex therapists?
12:55
SPEAKER_01: Well, exactly, exactly.
12:56
SPEAKER_00: And and if they're so good, how come they're anonymous?
12:59
SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
13:00
SPEAKER_00: That's exactly right.
13:02
SPEAKER_00: Come on, I mean, if you're that good, you should have a name out there, right?
13:06
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, to trust somebody to judge you on whether you can spin the dreidel.
13:12
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I just I don't see how you get that information, but I do want to know if I'm good at it.
13:17
SPEAKER_01: But the only solution I could come up with is to film it or invite people to watch.
13:22
SPEAKER_01: But I don't know.
13:23
SPEAKER_01: Does that pro I don't know a lot of people don't want to do that?
13:26
SPEAKER_00: I know a lot of people really put a lot of emphasis on practice, like just practice getting better through practice.
13:32
SPEAKER_00: And I want to practice, too.
13:34
SPEAKER_00: And maybe you got to spin your own dreidel for a while, you know.
13:37
SPEAKER_00: Maybe you just do well, that's true.
13:40
SPEAKER_00: Pull yourself up by the dreidel, you know, and just maybe you just gotta do it yourself, and maybe that's how you get better.
13:46
SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
13:46
SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
13:47
SPEAKER_01: I'm I'm acting like it's like I've just heard this for the first time, but I've been spinning my dreidel a lot.
13:52
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, well, I know I can get it to spin pretty fast, if you know what I mean.
13:57
SPEAKER_00: And I think you well, you know, speed isn't everything, sometimes it's accuracy, right?
14:02
SPEAKER_00: Really?
14:02
SPEAKER_01: I mean, you kind of want to go with accuracy and well, I yeah, I guess you don't want to put that dreidel in the wrong place.
14:08
SPEAKER_01: That is that what you mean by accuracy.
14:10
SPEAKER_00: What you definitely don't you don't want to soap that dreidel.
14:13
SPEAKER_00: Oh no, no, no, because then that thing will slide all over the place.
14:16
SPEAKER_00: No, you don't want to do that.
14:18
SPEAKER_00: No, you just have no control at all.
14:21
SPEAKER_01: So I feel better.
14:23
SPEAKER_01: That helps to I don't know, maybe we can talk about this uh more at another time.
14:28
SPEAKER_00: You know, well, and and yeah, you know, though, Jeff, actually, as you're saying that, a story from my past just came to mind while you were talking about that.
14:36
SPEAKER_00: Not related really to this discussion, but just another thing from the past.
14:40
SPEAKER_00: Because I really wasn't listening either, but you know, uh just a story from the past that I think explains a lot about kind of a historical memory.
14:49
SPEAKER_00: A histrionic, yeah.
14:50
SPEAKER_00: It's a history of histrionic, or yeah, oh yeah, right.
14:52
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it is.
14:53
SPEAKER_00: Okay, and and dying to hear.
14:55
SPEAKER_00: And well, this this goes back to when I was 12 or 13, too.
14:58
SPEAKER_00: I went to many a bar mitzvah when I was a kid, right?
15:01
SPEAKER_00: You did too, I'm sure, right?
15:02
SPEAKER_00: I went to many a bar mitzvah.
15:04
SPEAKER_00: And I don't know if you remember, I you may have been there.
15:06
SPEAKER_00: I don't know if you remember Eddie Solomon's bar mitzvah.
15:08
SPEAKER_00: No, they went all out, they had like full bars, they had uh they had like a band, they had it was it was man, they it cost more than many weddings, I'm sure.
15:18
SPEAKER_00: Uh-huh.
15:19
SPEAKER_00: This thing was it was unbelievable.
15:20
SPEAKER_00: And they had this bar, right?
15:22
SPEAKER_00: And this bartender was not ageist at all, if you know what I mean.
15:27
SPEAKER_00: I mean, he he'd look at you.
15:29
SPEAKER_00: I I was 12, I was tall, but I didn't look 21.
15:32
SPEAKER_00: I mean, come on, no, of course I didn't.
15:34
SPEAKER_00: He didn't care.
15:35
SPEAKER_00: He didn't care.
15:35
SPEAKER_00: So, what do you want?
15:37
SPEAKER_00: And I got it, we we were getting drinks, we're getting drinks from the bartender.
15:41
SPEAKER_00: What does a 12-year-old Steve drink?
15:44
SPEAKER_00: See, I wasn't really sure what to drink, so I thought, well, my mom likes vodka, I'll try that.
15:49
SPEAKER_00: And so he said, What mixer do you want?
15:51
SPEAKER_00: You want vodka and what?
15:53
SPEAKER_00: And I thought, well, I don't really know a lot about mixers, but I like Coke.
15:56
SPEAKER_00: I'm a Coca-Cola guy.
15:58
SPEAKER_00: I really love Coca-Cola.
15:59
SPEAKER_00: And so I said, Well, I'll do a vodka and coke.
16:01
SPEAKER_00: And he squinted a little bit, but he made it.
16:03
SPEAKER_00: So I'm I got this vodka and coke, right?
16:06
SPEAKER_00: And I'm sipping it.
16:06
SPEAKER_00: And it tastes, you know, interesting.
16:08
SPEAKER_00: You should try that sometime.
16:09
SPEAKER_00: I haven't had one since, but yeah, you know, it's interesting.
16:12
SPEAKER_00: And I'm I turn around and who do I see?
16:15
SPEAKER_00: My mom.
16:16
SPEAKER_00: My mom is walking in, right?
16:18
SPEAKER_00: And I think, oh, here we go.
16:19
SPEAKER_00: I got busted.
16:20
SPEAKER_00: I'll be grounded like until I'm 90, until I'm her age, you know, whatever.
16:25
SPEAKER_00: But what she does, she looks at it, she takes a sip, and she says, You got vodka and coke in here, don't you?
16:31
SPEAKER_00: Well, I'll try the amateur.
16:33
SPEAKER_00: You got vodka and coke in here, don't you, Stevie?
16:36
SPEAKER_00: And I said, Yeah, yeah, I do.
16:37
SPEAKER_00: She said, Don't ever drink vodka and coke.
16:40
SPEAKER_00: Listen, it's vodka and tonic, vodka and soda, vodka and orange juice.
16:44
SPEAKER_00: Nah, nah, forget the Coke.
16:46
SPEAKER_00: But bourbon and Coke, you know, Canadian whiskey and coke.
16:50
SPEAKER_00: Vodka, and then she walked away.
16:52
SPEAKER_00: And you know, I think, Jeff, that meant so much to me as a juvie, which I really was.
16:58
SPEAKER_00: I mean, I was I was committing a juvenile offense in a very in a very mature way.
17:03
SPEAKER_00: And and it was an apartment as perfect.
17:06
SPEAKER_00: That's right.
17:06
SPEAKER_00: So so perfect all all around, in fact.
17:08
SPEAKER_00: And that would be juvie J-E-W.
17:13
SPEAKER_00: It'd be it'd be like jubering juvie, a juvie player became a ju uh juber, right?
17:19
SPEAKER_00: That's right.
17:20
SPEAKER_01: Well, that's fascinating.
17:22
SPEAKER_01: It just came to mind though that maybe your mom should watch me have sex.
17:26
SPEAKER_01: I feel like your mom is somebody she would.
17:29
SPEAKER_00: She would.
17:29
SPEAKER_00: Well, yeah, but she should watch me.
17:31
SPEAKER_00: I mean, I should watch you.
17:32
SPEAKER_00: Why not?
17:32
SPEAKER_01: You know, I'm uh a little short on cash this week, so I might have to wait until you know to ask her another time.
17:39
SPEAKER_01: But she's 90, she's pregnant, she's gonna have a baby.
17:43
SPEAKER_01: She's a woman who has a lot of experience, Steve.
17:45
SPEAKER_00: And and you know, you talk about money.
17:47
SPEAKER_00: I mean, she is on a limited income and she's got some unexpected expenses with this baby.
17:52
SPEAKER_00: Normally she'd probably do it free, but she'll probably charge you for it.
17:56
SPEAKER_00: And she's she's gonna do natural childbirth, right?
17:59
SPEAKER_01: Oh, it's I thought she was somebody who didn't want to mix her drugs.
18:03
SPEAKER_00: She doesn't because she was doing drugs already, so she doesn't want to add no, she's worried that the anesthetic will blur the effect of the drugs she's using, which I as far as I can tell.
18:14
SPEAKER_00: I mean, I'm not a doctor, but I think it will.
18:16
SPEAKER_00: I think it will.
18:17
SPEAKER_00: I think she's onto something.
18:18
SPEAKER_00: So she's gonna keep doing her drugs.
18:20
SPEAKER_00: She's gonna go into one of those, you know, one of those tubs.
18:23
SPEAKER_00: And I mean, it could be interesting because she doesn't really swim that well, but but I digress, but she's gonna go into one of those tubs and just do a natural childbirth in the in the tub, in the actual tub.
18:33
SPEAKER_00: And now is she going to uh breastfeed?
18:35
SPEAKER_00: We think so.
18:36
SPEAKER_00: It's still, you know, it's still kind of developing.
18:38
SPEAKER_01: Well, I don't think they're gonna develop much longer, Steve.
18:42
SPEAKER_00: I mean there's development and there's development, you know.
18:44
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you know, come on.
18:45
SPEAKER_00: I think she's about I think the physical development's gonna get it's pretty well stopped.
18:49
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I would I would say, yeah, it's probably stopped, but but I digress.
18:54
SPEAKER_00: But she's she's thinking in terms of what she might do, and she's looking at looking at all kinds of different options.
19:00
SPEAKER_00: It's a very exciting time for her, something that most 90-year-olds just don't have.
19:05
SPEAKER_00: And that reminds me of Barbara Eden.
19:07
SPEAKER_01: Oh, you remember we talked about, yeah, we talked about the guy I picked up.
19:11
SPEAKER_01: He he said that he had dated Barbara Eden.
19:13
SPEAKER_01: Yes, he makes right.
19:16
SPEAKER_00: We need to find him.
19:17
SPEAKER_00: You need to find him, man.
19:18
SPEAKER_00: I know find your V Ruber thing and see if we can get him on the show.
19:22
SPEAKER_01: I will try to track him down.
19:24
SPEAKER_01: I'll say that maybe like he owes me money or something, see if I I can dig him up.
19:28
SPEAKER_01: But one of the things he said that at the time struck me as strange was that he he said that Barbara Eden, even as she got older, has a great body.
19:38
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and it still really has a great shape.
19:40
SPEAKER_01: And so I looked her up, she's 94.
19:41
SPEAKER_01: And that kind of brings a different question, which is do you think that as people get older they find older people more attractive?
19:48
SPEAKER_01: Or as people get older, they find younger people more attractive.
19:51
SPEAKER_00: That is a great question, Jeff.
19:53
SPEAKER_00: And I, you know, I think that's something don't don't worry, I got lost.
19:56
SPEAKER_00: When we get to Dr.
19:57
SPEAKER_00: Loube thrower, I think I think that's something we should ask him.
20:00
SPEAKER_00: I think it probably you probably do find older people more attractive as you get older.
20:04
SPEAKER_00: Because you know, they're more like you, you know?
20:07
SPEAKER_01: And that that's important because Steve, we don't look it, but we're you know, quite a bit older than we were when we first met.
20:14
SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah.
20:14
SPEAKER_00: We are significantly older, a few decades, in fact.
20:17
SPEAKER_00: So you're saying I I I look better now?
20:19
SPEAKER_01: I think you look better, but I don't know if that's because I'm older, so you look better.
20:24
SPEAKER_00: I think I do look better.
20:25
SPEAKER_00: I've grown out of some of the the juvenile things that I used to do.
20:29
SPEAKER_00: JEW.
20:30
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, exactly.
20:31
SPEAKER_00: Yes, there again, there again.
20:32
SPEAKER_00: Well, uh, it started at the bar mitzvah, so there you go.
20:35
SPEAKER_00: That's that's where it all started, right?
20:37
SPEAKER_00: That's that was the whole thing.
20:38
SPEAKER_00: Go Laddie Solomon.
20:40
SPEAKER_00: Oh man, but anyway, Jeff, Jeff, we we got so many more things to talk about, and we we do want to get to Dr.
20:45
SPEAKER_00: Lucy.
20:45
SPEAKER_01: Is our guest still there?
20:46
SPEAKER_01: Oh, he's still going there.
20:47
SPEAKER_01: Oh, he's still he's reading.
20:48
SPEAKER_01: We'll get to him in a second.
20:49
SPEAKER_00: He said he was gonna work on some things, and that's you know, that's legit.
20:52
SPEAKER_00: That's fine.
20:53
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
20:53
SPEAKER_00: But Jeff, we've got a repeat sponsor.
20:58
SPEAKER_00: Who?
20:58
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20:59
SPEAKER_00: Jeff, Jeff.
21:00
SPEAKER_00: You remember those good people at Fa King?
21:02
SPEAKER_00: Fa King, yes, yeah.
21:04
SPEAKER_01: You remember the uh uh was it is it Vietnamese food?
21:07
SPEAKER_01: I don't remember.
21:08
SPEAKER_00: Yes, was it Vietnamese soup?
21:10
SPEAKER_00: And we're coming back into hot weather now, Jeff.
21:12
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21:15
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21:20
SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
21:20
SPEAKER_00: I do.
21:21
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21:23
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21:25
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21:27
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22:22
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22:26
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22:33
SPEAKER_00: I don't know about you, Jeff.
22:34
SPEAKER_01: I'm Faking Hungry.
22:36
SPEAKER_00: I am Fa King Hungry.
22:37
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, absolutely.
22:38
SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
22:39
SPEAKER_00: That is oh man.
22:40
SPEAKER_00: And it's so nice that they're doing so well in the metro here with all the with like appropriation stations, some of the the restaurants that aren't really ethnic but are putting ethnic stuff out there, you know.
22:52
SPEAKER_00: It's good that they're that Fa King is still still hitting it, still doing well, still making that great soup.
22:58
SPEAKER_00: But I digress, but I digress.
23:00
SPEAKER_00: But but Jeff, you know, I I think I think we really need to get to the bottom of some of this before we bring the guest on.
23:07
SPEAKER_01: You know, I think that's something we should work on in the future.
23:10
SPEAKER_01: Sometimes I think that we sort of play it by ear and you know, whatever, but this is an important guy.
23:16
SPEAKER_01: This uh lube thrower dude is uh he's top notch.
23:19
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, absolutely.
23:20
SPEAKER_01: Top university.
23:22
SPEAKER_01: You know, we don't we want to challenge him here.
23:24
SPEAKER_01: We want to get our money's worth, even though we're probably not gonna pay him.
23:27
SPEAKER_01: But no, no, no.
23:28
SPEAKER_00: Well, but he's he's here for the publicity for his book that you know what you don't know can hurt me.
23:32
SPEAKER_00: But micro obsession and the unconscious.
23:35
SPEAKER_00: Oh man.
23:36
SPEAKER_00: He sounds so smart.
23:38
SPEAKER_00: That is such a great title.
23:39
SPEAKER_00: I have no idea what it is.
23:41
SPEAKER_00: That's how good it is.
23:42
SPEAKER_00: It's just so good it's beyond comprehension, you know, you know.
23:45
SPEAKER_01: You're right.
23:46
SPEAKER_01: Uh we should probably uh what do we how do you even do this?
23:49
SPEAKER_01: I yeah, I'm asking this.
23:50
SPEAKER_01: We're 10 months into nine months into doing this show, but how do you get prepared for a show?
23:56
SPEAKER_01: Like, should we be coming up with questions ahead of time?
23:58
SPEAKER_00: Well, I think we want to know normally normally that would be the way to prepare for an interview show is you come up with questions and you read the book and all this other boring stuff.
24:07
SPEAKER_00: I think for our type of show that is kind of a you know, it's it's a it's a personal show, it's an inventive show, it's a creative show, it's a spontaneous show, it's an improvised show.
24:18
SPEAKER_00: I think for that, we really need to get to the bottom of ourselves, and then we can ask questions of Dr.
24:27
SPEAKER_00: Lubethrower.
24:28
SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
24:29
SPEAKER_01: I do.
24:29
SPEAKER_01: Although just let's make a note here because I think the first question I'd like to know uh from him would be is lube thrower?
24:37
SPEAKER_01: Now is that um Swedish?
24:39
SPEAKER_01: Uh could be.
24:40
SPEAKER_01: Could be.
24:40
SPEAKER_01: Does it sound like that to you?
24:41
SPEAKER_01: I I can't tell.
24:42
SPEAKER_00: So I'd I'd like to know if uh Central European, Scandinavian, somewhere in there.
24:47
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it could be Swedish.
24:48
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, lube thrower.
24:49
SPEAKER_00: England, whatever.
24:50
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
24:51
SPEAKER_00: So uh yeah, I'd like to know that isn't that like a fish dish in Sweden, lube thrower, loop, loop something?
24:57
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, no, I think it is.
24:59
SPEAKER_00: I think it's probably named after the food.
25:00
SPEAKER_00: Boy, and again I think so.
25:01
SPEAKER_00: Again with the food.
25:02
SPEAKER_00: Boy, I'm so hungry.
25:03
SPEAKER_01: But I'd expect it.
25:04
SPEAKER_01: I know I'm fucking hungry.
25:05
SPEAKER_01: Fucking exactly, yes.
25:07
SPEAKER_01: Unbelievable.
25:08
SPEAKER_01: The other thing that we may want as we do the self-evaluation is that we're a company now, we're a corporation.
25:15
SPEAKER_01: We are, yes.
25:16
SPEAKER_01: I don't think we have an HR department yet, but we may want to look at hiring somebody to do HR for us because you know you want a you don't want a hostile work environment, Steve.
25:26
SPEAKER_01: You can't hold on to employees if you do that.
25:29
SPEAKER_00: No, we can't, and then there are lawsuits and all kinds of things.
25:31
SPEAKER_00: And I just to show you how corporate we are, I'm gonna I'm going to assume a corporate persona for a moment is like, yes, Jeff, that's a good idea.
25:39
SPEAKER_00: I think we should put a pin in that and circle back.
25:42
SPEAKER_00: Uh it just be prior to the shareholder meeting.
25:45
SPEAKER_00: I think we should decide what direction we're going to go with that.
25:48
SPEAKER_00: See, isn't that a good idea?
25:48
SPEAKER_00: See now, you see, see how good that is.
25:50
SPEAKER_00: See, that was really good.
25:51
SPEAKER_00: Although when you said put a pin in that, I immediately I thought sex again.
25:55
SPEAKER_00: Well, there you go.
25:56
SPEAKER_00: It's like it's like dipping the soap, you know, soap the soap.
25:58
SPEAKER_00: Oh, I think I could put a pin in that.
26:00
SPEAKER_01: Could put a pin in the soap, yeah.
26:02
SPEAKER_01: I think I could.
26:03
SPEAKER_01: Well, I th that's perfect.
26:04
SPEAKER_01: And what you're basically what you're saying is we just need to be more professional.
26:08
SPEAKER_01: And I went through that in an old company that I worked for.
26:11
SPEAKER_01: And I think, Steve, that I could help lead us in that direction.
26:15
SPEAKER_01: But there are important questions to ask, you know, what are the appropriate ways to say penis?
26:21
SPEAKER_01: Penis.
26:21
SPEAKER_01: Oh, I think, yeah.
26:22
SPEAKER_01: What did you say?
26:23
SPEAKER_01: Penis.
26:23
SPEAKER_01: Penis anyone?
26:24
SPEAKER_01: Tennis is a way is that what is that?
26:27
SPEAKER_01: But those are questions I think that I was interested in.
26:31
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I think that's important.
26:32
SPEAKER_01: So any any questions sort of in anticipation of that, which again is a part of us understanding who we want to be and how we can be better people, and how we can be better leaders and better talk show hosts.
26:44
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, Jeff, you saw you you were telling me that you saw a show with the Seinfeld cast from their last season, and they were being interviewed.
26:54
SPEAKER_01: Um, yeah, I was watching two different things.
26:56
SPEAKER_01: Actually, they were both fascinating.
26:59
SPEAKER_01: The first one was the Smothers Brothers documentary about you know what they did uh when they had their show.
27:06
SPEAKER_01: They were only on a couple years, I think three years.
27:08
SPEAKER_01: And that was fascinating.
27:09
SPEAKER_01: And then I ended up uh right after that, it was a documentary on a series of interviews from Seinfeld.
27:16
SPEAKER_01: So it's like from the late 90s, and it was right before the end of the show, and they interviewed the four actors plus Larry David.
27:24
SPEAKER_01: And then Larry David was talking about how Curb kind of came about, you know, these dark moments, these moments where you're, you know, these antisocial moments, moments where you know there's microaggression or whatever, and that was the basis for his show.
27:39
SPEAKER_01: And I started thinking, Steve, I bet you and I have so many of those experiences.
27:45
SPEAKER_00: Oh, Jeff.
27:45
SPEAKER_01: Oh, it's unbelievable.
27:49
SPEAKER_00: Oh, it happens so often, Jeff.
27:50
SPEAKER_00: It's just it's sad.
27:52
SPEAKER_00: It's like I wish that I could take all the times that's happened and do what Larry David did and turn it into something funny.
27:59
SPEAKER_00: And maybe, maybe, Jeff, maybe we can.
28:01
SPEAKER_00: Maybe we can.
28:02
SPEAKER_00: Maybe we can tonight.
28:03
SPEAKER_00: You know, maybe we can feel really good.
28:05
SPEAKER_00: If we just talk about it, maybe we can maybe we can find some comedy in all of this.
28:10
SPEAKER_01: Well, and I think we should be clear and honest with each other, you know.
28:13
SPEAKER_01: Although that may be the source of some of these uncomfortable moments.
28:17
SPEAKER_01: But whereas, like my wife, she gets nervous in social situations, and I tend to just say things that I later regret, but I'm so casually happy with it's just weird, Steve.
28:28
SPEAKER_01: I but I'll give you an example.
28:29
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I had a hernia operation uh in college.
28:33
SPEAKER_01: If you know anything about that operation, I think they do it different now, but uh back then you had to be in the hospital for three days, something like that.
28:39
SPEAKER_01: And they give you a bunch of medication, you are sore.
28:42
SPEAKER_01: A couple things they don't want you to do, right?
28:44
SPEAKER_01: And one of them is they don't want you to get excited, yeah, if you know what I mean.
28:49
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but I'm like this 21-year-old kid, and the nurse comes.
28:53
SPEAKER_00: Just saying the words getting excited would get you excited.
28:56
SPEAKER_00: It totally doesn't take much, right?
28:59
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and I'm not even completely sure that I was never not excited at that age.
29:04
SPEAKER_01: Okay, so you know, I was how do you know it would be news if there was an excitement?
29:08
SPEAKER_01: What's that even like?
29:09
SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
29:09
SPEAKER_01: I don't I don't know.
29:10
SPEAKER_01: I don't even know.
29:11
SPEAKER_01: So this nurse comes in and she's really attractive, and I immediately am in so much pain.
29:18
SPEAKER_00: Bad for the stitches, yeah.
29:20
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and so I go and I ask the doctor when the doctor comes in later.
29:25
SPEAKER_01: I'm like, can you maybe have somebody else help me who is less interesting?
29:31
SPEAKER_01: And I would do air quotes, you know, interesting, and and our listeners can see those air quotes, yeah.
29:36
SPEAKER_01: They can see the air quotes because they're they're right there, yeah.
29:40
SPEAKER_01: You know, yeah, I know they're listening, but they can't see them with your ears, you know.
29:43
SPEAKER_00: You know, you really can.
29:44
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you really can.
29:45
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, which which kind of brings me to my other point, which or question, and this is maybe you can answer this.
29:50
SPEAKER_01: Are better looking women or men better lovers because they look better?
29:57
SPEAKER_00: Hmm.
29:58
SPEAKER_00: People have wondered that since time immemorial.
30:01
SPEAKER_00: So have I.
30:02
SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
30:02
SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
30:03
SPEAKER_00: I think maybe there's no connection, but maybe there is.
30:06
SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
30:07
SPEAKER_01: Just to be clear, you know, I only have experience for the last 41 years with a good-looking woman.
30:14
SPEAKER_00: Oh, absolutely.
30:14
SPEAKER_00: Yes, you know.
30:15
SPEAKER_00: Well, she doesn't listen to the show, so you really could say anything, right?
30:18
SPEAKER_01: But she doesn't listen to the show, but I think that nurse that they brought in after the good-looking nurse, I think she listens to the show.
30:25
SPEAKER_01: She listens, yeah.
30:26
SPEAKER_01: I think she's some texts.
30:28
SPEAKER_00: She wrote in, I think, to one of our earlier listener calls, listener shows.
30:31
SPEAKER_00: I think she I think she wrote in, but I digress.
30:34
SPEAKER_01: She sent me a text and asked me if I needed my catheter massaged.
30:38
SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
30:38
SPEAKER_00: Oh, there you go.
30:39
SPEAKER_01: What that means.
30:40
SPEAKER_01: She wants to empty out my catheter.
30:43
SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna place that catheter.
30:45
SPEAKER_00: Ooh, yeah, you know, that's and her name was Kathy.
30:47
SPEAKER_00: Oh, there you go.
30:48
SPEAKER_01: So catheter, Kathy, I think it was Catheter, Kathy.
30:51
SPEAKER_00: There you go.
30:51
SPEAKER_01: It was catheter, Kathy.
30:52
SPEAKER_01: That was her nickname in nursing school.
30:54
SPEAKER_00: I bet wow.
30:55
SPEAKER_00: Anyways, it's important to have a specialty.
30:58
SPEAKER_00: It's important to have a specialty, I think.
30:59
SPEAKER_01: And Steve goes back to the same thing we always talk about that the name of the people has a lot to do with who they are and what they do for a living.
31:07
SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
31:07
SPEAKER_00: You know, if her name wasn't Kathy, would she have been attracted to the catheter?
31:12
SPEAKER_00: I maybe not.
31:12
SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
31:13
SPEAKER_00: Maybe not.
31:14
SPEAKER_01: So have you had any curb moments yourself?
31:17
SPEAKER_01: Anything you'd like to share with the class?
31:19
SPEAKER_00: You know, I I have Jeff, but I know you you told me offline about one of yours that I think is just is very, very curb your enthusiasm.
31:28
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you're talking about the the gas station one.
31:30
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, the gas station, yeah.
31:32
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so that was weird, kind of interesting how that turned out.
31:36
SPEAKER_01: But I was filling up my car with gas and I went to go inside, like to the 7-Eleven to buy a drink, uh, a bottle of water or something.
31:44
SPEAKER_01: And I'm walking in, I'm opening the door to the 7-Eleven, and I remember I didn't lock the car, so I turn around and I hit my remote, and as I'm hitting that remote to lock the car, this black guy's walking right to the car, right by me.
31:58
SPEAKER_00: Right by the car.
31:59
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and he looks at me and he says, The fuck is wrong with you, dude?
32:04
SPEAKER_01: You know, you're such a fucking racist.
32:06
SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, Don't know what he's saying, but it didn't sound good, you know.
32:10
SPEAKER_01: And I said, I said, I'm not a racist.
32:12
SPEAKER_01: I said, you know, it's like, oh my god, I'm liberal.
32:14
SPEAKER_01: I voted for Obama, and that just made it worse.
32:17
SPEAKER_01: And then he was like, Yeah, fuck you, asshole.
32:19
SPEAKER_01: And and so, anyways, I I came back and I was telling people about it, and they said that actually there's an episode of Curb where Larry David went through that, so you know, it's almost universal, these uncomfortable moments, it is, you know, or we have a connection, Larry and I, besides being bald, a connection sharing similar experiences.
32:38
SPEAKER_01: But yeah, that's kind of what we're talking about, isn't it, Steve?
32:42
SPEAKER_00: Oh yeah, your moment well, and and and thinking about curb moments.
32:45
SPEAKER_00: You you remember the curb episode where he does the uh the hello cut or the greeting cut or something he calls it, where you know you there's a long line, you see somebody in line, you know, you go, hey, you go up and talk to them, and then you you move up in line.
32:59
SPEAKER_00: Jeff, I I can't even count the number of times I've done that.
33:02
SPEAKER_00: I do that all the time.
33:03
SPEAKER_00: All the time, Jeff.
33:04
SPEAKER_00: The key though is you don't go too far up, you don't go right to the front, even if you know the person.
33:09
SPEAKER_00: You find somebody three, four, five back that you know that that's good enough.
33:14
SPEAKER_01: And you and you maintain your composure, right?
33:17
SPEAKER_01: So you oh absolutely very casual, very low-key.
33:20
SPEAKER_01: You're almost absent-minded, right?
33:21
SPEAKER_01: You're sort of just right, oh, oh, I'm just in the conversation.
33:25
SPEAKER_01: We we were doing a show, there was uh somebody we were going to interview, but we got distracted and we ended up talking you know to ourselves.
33:32
SPEAKER_01: And right, you know, it was kind of like that.
33:33
SPEAKER_01: It's just you don't you don't even think about it, and before you know it, the 40 minutes is over.
33:38
SPEAKER_00: You know what the show's over, and and you know, and we have no time to oh, that's exactly it.
33:43
SPEAKER_00: You just go there, it works great at like buffet lines.
33:46
SPEAKER_00: If you're at an event and there's a long buffet line, you just because you always know somebody at these events, right?
33:51
SPEAKER_00: You go off and say, Hey, and and before you know it, you're at the food.
33:54
SPEAKER_01: Like, oh and I can't tell you how much I could use some creamed corn right now.
33:59
SPEAKER_00: Well, talking about creaming your corn, I think that's I think we're right with it.
34:04
SPEAKER_00: I love that stuff with it.
34:06
SPEAKER_00: Don't know exactly what that's made of, but it is so easy to get absent-minded that way, and you get really so involved in the conversation that you kind of forget what's going on around you, and you kind of forget, hey, we're in line, we're at this event, we're going up for food, and and I should be back there, but I'm up here because I'm you know, you're talking and you're really into it.
34:27
SPEAKER_00: Well, or at least you have to act like you're really into the conversation because that's a beautiful cover.
34:31
SPEAKER_00: It's like, oh, I totally lost track of where what I was doing.
34:34
SPEAKER_01: And even if you're not trying to do it on purpose, it's easy to just have those moments where you're in line and you just forget where you are, you forget right where where you're surrounded by.
34:45
SPEAKER_01: Like, for example, when I met my wife, we were in college and she had to go on birth control, and we go to this, you know, nursing infirmary or whatever, you know, the campus oh yeah down health, uh, you health student health.
34:58
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and there's like an 80-year-old, crusty old nurse.
35:03
SPEAKER_01: I was attracted to her.
35:04
SPEAKER_00: Who yeah, look great, probably.
35:06
SPEAKER_01: Yes, right up my alley.
35:07
SPEAKER_00: And you know, you know, and if you could find her now, I bet she'll she'd look even better to you.
35:11
SPEAKER_00: Oh, I bet you're older now, right?
35:14
SPEAKER_00: So she'd look great now.
35:15
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you know, so she was I was with her because I I want to show support, and she was getting birth control, and she goes up to the counter and the the nurse says, So how much do you want?
35:25
SPEAKER_01: Do you want like three months worth or six months worth or one month worth?
35:30
SPEAKER_01: And Kathy sort of hesitated.
35:32
SPEAKER_01: She looked at me, and I didn't, I was I sort of forgot that I was in this social situation.
35:37
SPEAKER_01: I was just talking to her.
35:38
SPEAKER_01: So I say, you know, they're expensive, you know, and I don't think you should get too many that you won't use.
35:44
SPEAKER_01: And I don't really know how long we're gonna be going out.
35:47
SPEAKER_01: So you may want to just do like a 30-day, you know, because we probably won't be dating after that.
35:52
SPEAKER_00: That is very financially sound, Jeff.
35:54
SPEAKER_00: That it makes perfect economic sense.
35:57
SPEAKER_01: I think that's when she realized she loved me.
35:59
SPEAKER_00: I think it was that that moment she knew that you would preserve the money in the family and that you would always provide because you wouldn't waste money and the off chance that, hey, what if I don't need it?
36:11
SPEAKER_01: That's right.
36:11
SPEAKER_01: There are poor people out there that need the birth control.
36:14
SPEAKER_01: Oh, exactly.
36:14
SPEAKER_01: And now I don't think that that nurse liked it.
36:16
SPEAKER_01: She gave me a dirty look again, arousing me.
36:20
SPEAKER_01: But uh, she made that dirty look and and I'm surprised you didn't date the nurse.
36:24
SPEAKER_01: Uh she would have gotten a lot more uh in that prescription if it was the nurse, I'll tell you that.
36:28
SPEAKER_00: You would have gone for the sixth month, right?
36:30
SPEAKER_01: I would have gone for six months.
36:31
SPEAKER_01: I think there would have been a sure thing.
36:32
SPEAKER_01: But anyway, so that was kind of what I'm talking about here is that those are curb moments, you know, where you just have these awkward discussions about things, um, and it just comes out that way.
36:43
SPEAKER_00: And well, and and you know, and sometimes the discussions can go on.
36:47
SPEAKER_00: You think you've talked about it, but then you realize you really you haven't, you still got more to say, you really haven't covered it.
36:54
SPEAKER_00: And so sometimes it takes a while to really bring out the truth, the core, the facts, the guts, the soap.
37:01
SPEAKER_00: It takes a while to bring all that out.
37:03
SPEAKER_01: It does.
37:04
SPEAKER_01: And I think, Steve, if you're looking at other moments of Curb, probably look at you and I.
37:09
SPEAKER_01: We've had some experiences together.
37:11
SPEAKER_01: We we yeah, you know, it's kind of under the category of what was I thinking, you know, because they're just so bizarre.
37:18
SPEAKER_01: But yeah, the idea of starting, I don't know, starting a rock band with no ability to play instruments or sing or have instruments and just pretend and then perform for other people, those are really uncomfortable and disgusting.
37:35
SPEAKER_00: But but two thoughts on that, Jeff.
37:37
SPEAKER_00: Number one, you should never let your inability to do something stop you from doing it.
37:42
SPEAKER_00: I think I think we just had to overcome our really shocking lack of musical skill and and just and just go with it.
37:50
SPEAKER_00: And the second thing is with people we performed for, they loved it.
37:55
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, they laughed, they thought it was great, they sang along because we didn't write any songs, they knew all the songs because you know we had no musical skill.
38:03
SPEAKER_00: We weren't writing songs, right?
38:05
SPEAKER_01: And in fairness, we were doing something that I don't think anybody's ever done in the history of music, where they have imitated somebody who was imitating a performer and lip syncing that performance lip syncing, but singing out loud while you're lip syncing, which is hard to do.
38:24
SPEAKER_00: I remember that would be a trollocrist to do that.
38:26
SPEAKER_00: I mean, that that's that's pretty hard.
38:27
SPEAKER_01: I mean, you know, nothing better, nothing better than to pretend you're singing, kind of sing along with music that is from somebody else that's imitating somebody else, somebody else, right?
38:39
SPEAKER_00: See, we took we took Millie Vanilli, which actually we were before Millie Vanilli, right?
38:43
SPEAKER_00: We did this, but we took Millie Vanilli to the next level.
38:47
SPEAKER_00: They just imitated themselves.
38:49
SPEAKER_00: We imitated somebody who was imitating somebody who sang a song long before the imitators.
38:56
SPEAKER_00: So we were like a second generation imitator.
38:58
SPEAKER_01: There's the fucking problem.
39:00
SPEAKER_01: Basically, we have just talked ourselves into that.
39:03
SPEAKER_01: That wasn't a curb moment, it was a great moment.
39:06
SPEAKER_00: That was a that was one of the high marks in my performing career.
39:10
SPEAKER_00: And this is dangerous, Steve, because we basically are never embarrassed by almost anything.
39:16
SPEAKER_00: I I think that's why we have curb moments, is because you know, if you were if you're easily embarrassed, you're not gonna have a lot of curb moments because you're cutting in line, right?
39:25
SPEAKER_00: You're not gonna cut in line, you're right.
39:27
SPEAKER_00: No, we won't do that.
39:28
SPEAKER_01: So we don't have that.
39:29
SPEAKER_00: We didn't always lip sync though.
39:31
SPEAKER_00: Are you thinking maybe another curb moment would be saying the worst curb moment, which I think is the worst.
39:39
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
39:39
SPEAKER_01: Well, why don't you explain explain what happened?
39:42
SPEAKER_01: If we're thinking about the same thing.
39:44
SPEAKER_00: I we probably are.
39:45
SPEAKER_00: It involves uh coffee house.
39:48
SPEAKER_00: See, Jeff and I, this back when we were back when we were juvies.
39:52
SPEAKER_00: I was a somewhere J E W V I J E W V I E S, yes, juvies.
39:58
SPEAKER_00: And we we we were I it was somewhere between my 12-year-old vodka and coke and college.
40:06
SPEAKER_00: So we were somewhere in in between, and we were on a double date.
40:10
SPEAKER_00: The girl that I took, I thought was great.
40:12
SPEAKER_00: I really wanted to get together with her.
40:14
SPEAKER_00: And I don't remember, I I think the girl you took was somebody you you knew, but again, you weren't didn't really care, weren't paying attention to her.
40:22
SPEAKER_01: Well, I think the reason I knew her, yeah, the part I should have paid attention to was her age.
40:27
SPEAKER_01: Because as I recall, Steve, she may have been a tad younger than me by a couple years.
40:34
SPEAKER_00: Well, now, in fairness, we were still pretty young.
40:36
SPEAKER_00: We were minors still at this point.
40:38
SPEAKER_00: She was maybe a little more minor.
40:40
SPEAKER_00: Minor.
40:41
SPEAKER_00: She was a little over she was more on the vodka and coke side than on the college side, you know, right.
40:47
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
40:48
SPEAKER_00: But I digress.
40:49
SPEAKER_00: But uh but so so we thought we we went to this coffee house, right?
40:53
SPEAKER_00: We're sitting there and they had they had a guy playing guitar.
40:56
SPEAKER_00: And he was, I don't know, how should I put it?
40:58
SPEAKER_00: He was lousy, wasn't good, not good at all.
41:01
SPEAKER_00: We're sitting there, and we get this idea coffee and coke, yeah.
41:04
SPEAKER_00: Which is great.
41:05
SPEAKER_00: I mean that's actually better than vodka and coke, but it's yeah, coffee, vodka and coke is a great that's that's that's a wonderful morning pick-me-up.
41:12
SPEAKER_00: You'll you'll be alert and and pain-free.
41:15
SPEAKER_00: I mean, it's really it's pretty good.
41:17
SPEAKER_00: But but I digress.
41:19
SPEAKER_00: We got this idea that you know, we had written this song.
41:21
SPEAKER_00: Of course, it was a funny song, it was a comedic song.
41:25
SPEAKER_00: And it was actually a borrowed tune.
41:27
SPEAKER_00: We actually stole the tune.
41:28
SPEAKER_00: We wrote the words, yeah, yeah, and they were funny.
41:31
SPEAKER_00: So we thought, you know, why don't we just go up and ask this guy if we can play uh the song here?
41:37
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I think Jeff, you took the guitar.
41:39
SPEAKER_00: I I couldn't believe this guy said, sure, take my guitar and play a song on the stage that I'm performing on.
41:45
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, go ahead.
41:46
SPEAKER_00: But he did.
41:47
SPEAKER_00: He did.
41:47
SPEAKER_00: I mean, it's unbelievable, right?
41:49
SPEAKER_01: He did.
41:50
SPEAKER_01: It was what was more unbelievable was that it resulted in very little interaction between us and the dates after that.
41:58
SPEAKER_01: I don't remember a lot of uh connection at that point, kissing and touching or anything.
42:03
SPEAKER_00: Oh no, no, there was no no connection like that.
42:07
SPEAKER_00: There was very little connection of any type, there's very little eye contact, there was very little uh of anything.
42:12
SPEAKER_00: And I don't think to this day I have seen that girl again.
42:16
SPEAKER_00: I don't think I have.
42:18
SPEAKER_01: I think she sees us maybe in her dreams.
42:21
SPEAKER_00: Uh there might be dreams necessarily, but she might, you know, she might have our picture on like a desk just to remind her how bad it could be, what she shouldn't do ever again.
42:33
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and she looks at us go, that's it.
42:35
SPEAKER_00: That's what I shouldn't do.
42:37
SPEAKER_01: The the part that is disturbing though, excuse me.
42:41
SPEAKER_00: One of the parts that there's only one part that's disturbing, yeah.
42:44
SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah.
42:44
SPEAKER_01: No, I think there are a few, but it but I think there's a few, yeah, um, is that I don't remember us when we dropped them off after the date.
42:53
SPEAKER_01: I don't remember us being disappointed in any way.
42:57
SPEAKER_01: I felt like we were like high-fiving ourselves and we were like really thought that was a great date.
43:04
SPEAKER_00: Well, because because we were yeah, we were young, we were kids, and we and they were and they were kids.
43:12
SPEAKER_00: Well, yours was maybe even more than we were young, they were kids.
43:14
SPEAKER_00: I mean actual kids.
43:16
SPEAKER_00: Mine was maybe maybe a year younger than me, but not, you know, within the ballparks or yours, uh I don't know about yours.
43:23
SPEAKER_00: You know, I think we were so we were young, we were so excited that we had actually performed a relatively obscene song out loud, unapologetically, straight faced in front of a crowd, and and we got a lot, we got laughs, we got a lot of laughs because I gotta tell you, everybody in that room was like thinking this guy's not very good.
43:44
SPEAKER_00: And so we got up, we were a breath of fresh air.
43:47
SPEAKER_00: I remember there was one guy who I think probably had been a little you know, you know how uh Appropriation Station has that flaming tie stick.
43:54
SPEAKER_01: Yes.
43:55
SPEAKER_00: I remember there was one guy over on the right.
43:57
SPEAKER_00: I remember this guy, I remember this guy vividly, he was over on the right towards.
44:00
SPEAKER_00: The back.
44:00
SPEAKER_00: I think he'd been really eating that flaming tie stick a lot.
44:05
SPEAKER_00: And he he almost fell out of his chair laughing.
44:08
SPEAKER_00: He was a he was.
44:10
SPEAKER_00: I kept looking at him.
44:11
SPEAKER_00: He was it was like the funniest thing he'd ever seen.
44:13
SPEAKER_00: And he just loved it.
44:14
SPEAKER_00: He gave us a huge applause at the end.
44:16
SPEAKER_00: I mean, it's that's why we're because it was it was a performer's high.
44:21
SPEAKER_00: We kind of forgot about the dates.
44:23
SPEAKER_00: So they're gonna judge our performance.
44:25
SPEAKER_01: That's kind of what I'm talking about, Steve.
44:27
SPEAKER_01: Right.
44:27
SPEAKER_01: You know, exactly.
44:28
SPEAKER_01: Sometimes you gotta kind of just say uh you're not really qualified to, you know, to judge.
44:34
SPEAKER_01: Go back to grade school, you know, tomorrow.
44:38
SPEAKER_00: Tomorrow, she she did go back to grade school, I think, in that grade, or whatever, wherever you're going.
44:42
SPEAKER_01: You know, yeah, when you get older and you're world more worldly, you'll appreciate what you went through in that date.
44:49
SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
44:50
SPEAKER_00: You know, I bet I bet if I got in touch with the girl that I was with that night, I bet if I got back in touch with her, she would say, you know, at the time I was embarrassed and I thought you were stupid.
45:02
SPEAKER_00: And now that I'm you know 50 years older, I still still think you're stupid, but it was pretty funny.
45:08
SPEAKER_00: It was pretty funny, you know.
45:09
SPEAKER_00: She'd probably say, Yeah, you know, listen, it was horrible, but it was kind of funny.
45:13
SPEAKER_01: It was funny.
45:14
SPEAKER_01: I don't know if I ever told you, but my roommate in college, Bart, his sister, who was like three years younger than us, said that that song was being played by other people at the youth group.
45:26
unknown: Wow.
45:27
SPEAKER_01: And I was thinking, I was thinking to myself, there's more obnoxious, embarrassing, free people out there that we should so now see we should have tied up the residuals.
45:37
SPEAKER_00: Oh my gosh.
45:39
SPEAKER_01: So let me just clarify: this guy is imitating two guys who are imitating stealing a song from somebody else who was stealing.
45:48
SPEAKER_01: Who was imitating somebody else imitating somebody else?
45:51
SPEAKER_00: So we were we're we're patting ourselves on the back for being second generation imitators.
45:55
SPEAKER_00: This guy is a third generation imitator, yes, yes, and who knows?
45:59
SPEAKER_00: By now, there might be a fourth generation or a fifth that's possible, and part of a proud heritage.
46:06
SPEAKER_00: It's kind of like the like the dawn of man.
46:08
SPEAKER_00: It's like there were the Neanderthals, and then there were you know, or there were the apes, and then maybe we were the Neanderthals that imitated the apes imitating other apes, and then this guy is the first Crow Magnum who is imitating the Neanderthals, who's imitating the apes, ape imitating the apes.
46:25
SPEAKER_01: Exactly, or almost exactly, yeah.
46:28
SPEAKER_00: I'm not sure what I just laid out, but it sounded wonderful either.
46:32
SPEAKER_00: I mean, I it just it was original, it sounded anthropological or or historianical or something.
46:39
SPEAKER_01: And I wonder if that guy, you know, for all we know, that guy could be at Cathartic State University, he could be, which reminds me we have a guest, right?
46:49
SPEAKER_01: Oh, do we still have a guest?
46:51
SPEAKER_00: We do, yeah.
46:52
SPEAKER_00: He's over there, he's making notes.
46:54
SPEAKER_00: I mean, he's he's working, you know, he's he's happy, he hasn't complained yet.
46:58
SPEAKER_00: But you know, you know, Jeff, funny thing, you see that engineer over there, he's like, Yeah, he he's smiling kind of like that guy, like the tystick guy at the coffee house.
47:07
SPEAKER_00: You know, he's smiling, but he's he's smiling for a different reason because he's smiling, he's gonna throw us out of here.
47:12
SPEAKER_00: Really?
47:13
SPEAKER_00: Time goes by so fast.
47:14
SPEAKER_00: We're just about out of time, and we didn't we didn't quite get to Dr.
47:18
SPEAKER_00: Armand lube thrower.
47:20
SPEAKER_01: You know what we did get to, Steve?
47:22
SPEAKER_01: We got to the essence of us.
47:24
SPEAKER_01: Sometimes I feel like when we do our show, it's always about everybody else because we're giving, we just give everybody.
47:32
SPEAKER_01: This was a case where we had a chance to kind of as my old boss used to say, open the kimona.
47:37
SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah, there you go.
47:39
SPEAKER_01: I know, but that's what he would say open the kimona and share who we are with everyone.
47:45
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, see that that to me that's a hostile environment.
47:47
SPEAKER_00: I mean, I don't know, you know.
47:48
SPEAKER_01: I mean, we don't know, we'd have to take that class.
47:51
SPEAKER_00: Um, it's hostile to uh like so many people, Japanese among them, yes.
47:56
SPEAKER_00: I mean, so many.
47:57
SPEAKER_01: Well, it's it's all a matter of what when you do a lot when what you're gonna do with your tie stick.
48:02
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, exactly.
48:02
SPEAKER_01: I know what I'm doing with my tie stick.
48:04
SPEAKER_00: You know, light that tie stick, yeah.
48:06
SPEAKER_01: Gonna light that tie stick, gonna flame that log again.
48:10
SPEAKER_01: I've enjoyed this, and this is a portrait we didn't get to the show, but yeah, you know, we're gonna have to have Dr.
48:15
SPEAKER_00: Lude through our back, but because he just kind of slid right out of here, you know.
48:19
SPEAKER_01: But but he's gonna still get Carol Burnett, is this kind of like Carol Burnett, where we're like uh these are outtakes.
48:26
SPEAKER_01: What like what does this qualify as, Steve?
48:28
SPEAKER_01: Is this like how would you theme this show?
48:31
SPEAKER_00: Well, originally, if I was me, which I'm not, but if I were me, I would we were gonna talk about histrionics and maybe a little bit about sand volleyball, which I know that that probably would get you excited.
48:45
SPEAKER_00: Very interesting.
48:45
SPEAKER_00: We're gonna talk about his book, you know, what you don't know can hurt me.
48:49
SPEAKER_00: But I think what we did instead is we showed rather than talk about it and just talk about the ideas, we actually showed a laboratory of working through a lot of this.
49:00
SPEAKER_00: I think we not only reached some real truths, but we're actually better people for having done what we did.
49:07
SPEAKER_00: And I think Dr.
49:08
SPEAKER_00: Lub Thrower, if we turned on his microphone, I think he would thank us.
49:13
SPEAKER_00: I think he would say, Good job, guys, good job.
49:16
SPEAKER_00: I couldn't have done it any better.
49:18
SPEAKER_01: That would have been pretty uh impressive if he would have said that about us.
49:22
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, well, and and unfortunately we don't we don't have time to let him say that about us.
49:26
SPEAKER_01: That's too bad.
49:27
SPEAKER_01: But maybe maybe he'll be on next week.
49:28
SPEAKER_01: Who knows?
49:29
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, maybe maybe we'll bring him on, you know, because I think he does have a lot to say, and and we still, you know, we're still looking for answers on some of these questions, you know?
49:37
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, totally.
49:38
SPEAKER_01: So Jeff was great.
49:40
SPEAKER_00: This was an amazing show, Jeff.
49:42
SPEAKER_00: I feel like a better human being.
49:44
SPEAKER_00: I think I'll be a better bowler.
49:46
SPEAKER_00: And I stink at bowling, but I'll be a better bowler as a result of this show.
49:51
SPEAKER_01: What would you rather be?
49:52
SPEAKER_01: A better bowler or or like a sand volleyball person?
49:55
SPEAKER_01: I'd rather be a bowler, better bowler.
49:57
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, well, kind of depends on who's playing sand volleyball, but you know, maybe I'm you know, I could go either way, so to speak.
50:04
SPEAKER_01: But you know although sand volleyball, that kind of makes sense from uh cat lard dick university.
50:09
SPEAKER_01: Right cat makes sense.
50:11
SPEAKER_00: Cat sandbox, right?
50:12
SPEAKER_00: That's exactly it.
50:13
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, here you go.
50:14
SPEAKER_00: So that makes it exactly exactly well.
50:17
SPEAKER_01: Good well, uh let's do this again, Steve.
50:19
SPEAKER_01: You know where I live.
50:20
SPEAKER_00: Good to see you.
50:21
SPEAKER_00: And Dr.
50:21
SPEAKER_00: Luthrower, he's he's waving now.
50:23
SPEAKER_00: Hi, sorry.
50:24
SPEAKER_00: All right, sorry, we'll we'll have to do that before you know we're not gonna pay you.
50:28
SPEAKER_00: You got a lot to say.
50:29
SPEAKER_00: Well, we were gonna pay you anyway, even if you didn't talk, we weren't gonna pay you.
50:32
SPEAKER_00: Now we have our uh an hour.
50:33
SPEAKER_00: And now we got a good reason.
50:34
SPEAKER_00: But uh but Jeff, listen, we will uh I'll see you again on another show and we'll sound good.
50:40
SPEAKER_00: We will get to the truth.
50:41
SPEAKER_00: Like we that's what this show is all about is getting to the truth.
50:45
SPEAKER_00: We did that tonight, Jeff.
50:46
SPEAKER_00: We did it.
50:47
SPEAKER_00: Totally.
50:48
SPEAKER_00: Thanks, Steve.
50:49
SPEAKER_00: Thank you, Jeff.
50:50
SPEAKER_00: We'll see you.
50:51
SPEAKER_00: Okay, bye now.