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Chuck & Buck 2-26 Hour 3: College basketball with jerry Palm, Kraken hockey with Ian Furness and the 32nd pick possibilities. · Chuck in the Morning

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Speaker 1: All right, good Thursday morning to you.
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Speaker 2: We roll into the eight o'clock hour, Chuck Powell, Ashley
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Speaker 2: Ryan with you. No Bucky here today. He'll be out
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Speaker 2: for the rest of the week. We will see him
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Speaker 2: on Monday, but we have the opportunity every year we
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Speaker 2: check in with Jerry Palm, college basketball rider for CBS
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Speaker 2: Sports also does football as well, but we lean on
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Speaker 2: him once per year to just update us on everything
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Speaker 2: going on in college basketball as we get closer and
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Speaker 2: closer to March Madness. And we usually do this exercise
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Speaker 2: right after the Seahawks dust has settled, but it took
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Speaker 2: longer for the Seahawks dust to settle this year. Therefore,
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Speaker 2: we are just now getting to it. And I can't
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Speaker 2: tell you how much we value this service that Jerry
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Speaker 2: provides us on an annual basis. So he joins us
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Speaker 2: here on the radio program. How are you, sir?
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Speaker 3: I am fine, but I have a minor correction for you. Okay,
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Speaker 3: I am no longer with CBS. I have my own site,
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Speaker 3: Bracket dot Com. Oh that's okay, Just you know, I
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Speaker 3: forget who who I have told us who I have
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Speaker 3: Uh anyways, okay, So, but Paulbracket dot com is where
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Speaker 3: you find my stuff, and it's it's uh, it'll be
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Speaker 3: a valuable resource.
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Speaker 2: I'm sure, Okay, palm brackets dot com. I'm just uh,
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Speaker 2: I've just been so comfortable promoting that. That's what I
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Speaker 2: assumed you were still doing, So my apologies for that.
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Speaker 2: So now we will promote the heck out of palm
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Speaker 2: brackets dot com.
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Speaker 1: Well, either way, it's good to be with you.
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Speaker 2: And I was a little worried about you during the
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Speaker 2: football season, you being a Purdue boiler Maker. How did
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Speaker 2: you handle Indiana becoming a powerhouse.
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Speaker 3: It's just weird because no, really, it's for for decades
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Speaker 3: Indiana football has been miserable, I mean just awful. They
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Speaker 3: get the occasional one off bowl game or something, but
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Speaker 3: you know, they could go then what they win like
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Speaker 3: twenty three or four games in the last two years,
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Speaker 3: they could go, you know, six years without one in
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Speaker 3: the many games and it's just been it's just hard
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Speaker 3: to wrap your head around the speed with which that
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Speaker 3: turnaround happened, which I guess is really the peak illustration
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Speaker 3: of how all of the money now when college athletics,
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Speaker 3: especially going to the players, where you can build a
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Speaker 3: roster is, you know, to compete for a national championship
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Speaker 3: from literally dirt to national champion in two years. It's
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Speaker 3: like a prime example of what the new era of
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Speaker 3: college athletics can do.
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Speaker 1: Do you not like it? And if so, is it
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Speaker 1: because Indiana got good?
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Speaker 3: I would never root for them. That's against my religion,
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Speaker 3: so you know, so, I guess you know, I don't
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Speaker 3: like it in that regard. It's just a it's such
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Speaker 3: an illustrative story though, right, a remarkable story really, so yeah,
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Speaker 3: but no, I would. I was not rooting for them
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Speaker 3: in any of their games this year, and I've you know,
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Speaker 3: but I don't bet on them against them either because
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Speaker 3: it's not that.
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Speaker 2: Much well, and not to make this about your fandom,
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Speaker 2: because you're this conversation is so much more about that.
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Speaker 2: But you do have them in basketball, I mean, the
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Speaker 2: Purdue program and basketball just continues to roll along here.
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Speaker 1: In the modern day.
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Speaker 2: They started the season at number one overall, they're still
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Speaker 2: twenty two and five ranked what number eight and the
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Speaker 2: AP poll at this stage. How good a basketball team
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Speaker 2: are you rooting for these days?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're very good. And it's maybe the only team
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Speaker 3: in the top ten twelve that isn't relying on freshmen.
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Speaker 3: It's like a star freshman. It's a veteran team. Crayden
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Speaker 3: Smith probably going to be the point guard of the
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Speaker 3: year again with a Seed the national player of the
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Speaker 3: year before we saw how great all these freshmen were,
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Speaker 3: and it's been an amazing year for the freshman class
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Speaker 3: in college basketball. But you know, he's obviously the star,
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Speaker 3: but there are two other veteran players Traycoff and Wren
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Speaker 3: in the post and Pledger Lawyer shooting guard that are
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Speaker 3: you know, really the steady handed guides. You know they
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Speaker 3: do doesn't depend much on freshmen, the backups or sophomores
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Speaker 3: and you know, juniors for the most part. But it's
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Speaker 3: a it's an experienced team that knows how to get
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Speaker 3: to the final four because their leaders and anybody who's
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Speaker 3: been on the team more than two years has done it.
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Speaker 3: So it's uh, there'll be a danger in March because
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Speaker 3: you're not gonna be able to show him something they
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Speaker 3: haven't already seen Somewhere.
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Speaker 2: Jerry Palm is with US college basketball writer for years now.
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Speaker 2: Paulm Brackets dot Com our annual conversation with him to
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Speaker 2: sort of set up the rest of the college basketball
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Speaker 2: season and get you ready for March Madness right here
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Speaker 2: on Chuck and Buck and I think about March Madness,
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Speaker 2: and I put Purdue into this category with a few
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Speaker 2: other teams. I won't say a lot of other teams.
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Speaker 2: It feels very top heavy this year. I'm normally somebody
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Speaker 2: that I just don't think it's in the spirit of
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Speaker 2: filling out a bracket to just go with chalk. But man,
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Speaker 2: it's going to be hard for me to put anything
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Speaker 2: lower than a two or three seed into a Final
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Speaker 2: four this year. It feels very top heavy. Am I
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Speaker 2: right about that? Or maybe there's some correction to my analysis.
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Speaker 3: You might want to go a little deeper than that,
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Speaker 3: because there's going to be some really good four seeded
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Speaker 3: teams and you could see a team like the Kansas
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Speaker 3: as a four, and Kansas, when Darren Peterson is playing
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Speaker 3: and healthy, they could win the whole thing, and you
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Speaker 3: know that wouldn't be even a little bit of a surprise. Alabama,
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Speaker 3: it has played a vicious schedule this year, taken on
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Speaker 3: all comers. They have won several of those teams, but
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Speaker 3: not enough to maybe get much higher than a four
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Speaker 3: unless they win the A SEC tournament. That's another team
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Speaker 3: that could end up as a four that is capable
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Speaker 3: of winning a whole thing. But I think you can go.
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Speaker 3: You can go fourteen to fifteen teams deep. The Big
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Speaker 3: Ten is gonna have some I'm not sure that they're
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Speaker 3: all gonna be top four teams, but Purdue, Illinois, Michigan State,
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Speaker 3: or when you get beyond, you know, say Michigan. You
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Speaker 3: know there's some teams there that you could win a
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Speaker 3: national championship as well. So I think it's pretty deep
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Speaker 3: this year in terms of potential national champion teams. But
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Speaker 3: you're right. I mean, all the ones, all the twos,
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Speaker 3: all the threes easily will be able to do it
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Speaker 3: and almost no matter who those teams are. But there's
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Speaker 3: probably gonna be a couple of fours that you can
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Speaker 3: put on that list as well.
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Speaker 2: But we probably won't see the Cinderella fifteen seed.
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Speaker 3: It's gonna be tough this year. Yeah, yeah, it's gonna
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Speaker 3: that's gonna have to be a team on a special run.
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Speaker 3: But you never know. You get a team like say DYU.
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Speaker 3: Now I feel better about before Saunders got hurt, but
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Speaker 3: you know they've got a star freshman too. The Boons.
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Speaker 3: You know, he's capable of carrying that team deep into
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Speaker 3: a tournament like this, and so they might be an
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Speaker 3: outside shot at a Final four kind of team.
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Speaker 2: Let's talk about that because that's been a major story
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Speaker 2: this college basketball season, how good this freshman class is.
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Speaker 2: And of course freshmen out bounced straight to the NBA.
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Speaker 2: So we're seeing a record setting tanking situation going on
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Speaker 2: in the NBA this year because it's not just about
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Speaker 2: getting the number one pick. These teams in the NBA,
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Speaker 2: they're like ten or twelve of them that are trying
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Speaker 2: to get as high as they can in the lottery
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Speaker 2: to get one of these freshmen. So talk about the
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Speaker 2: freshman class. Are we talking about something historic here?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know that I have enough sense of
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Speaker 3: that to say for sure that it's the sort of well,
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Speaker 3: I'm going to say this, certainly, if it's not the
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Speaker 3: best top of a freshman class that we've had, it's
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Speaker 3: the best one I remember over at least a decade.
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Speaker 3: I mean, it's just been it's been incredible this freshman class.
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Speaker 3: And you know, every the Michigan I don't know if
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Speaker 3: Michigan they've got a star freshman, but they're not relying
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Speaker 3: on him as much as their veterans, like j Axelberg
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Speaker 3: is new to Michigan, but he's not new to college basketball.
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Speaker 3: But he could be the national player of the year,
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Speaker 3: even ahead of all of these great freshmen. But you
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Speaker 3: know Duke obviously, Arizona, Kansas, almost all of the two
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Speaker 3: seed type teams have got star freshmen. It's it's just
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Speaker 3: it's a loaded, uh freshman class. Arizona's got two, Houston's
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Speaker 3: got one. Yeah, everybody. It seems like everybody's got a
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Speaker 3: star freshman that can carry a team. And that's usually
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Speaker 3: kind of waddle. You know, an NTAA Tournament winner is
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Speaker 3: going to have, is that somebody who can put the
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Speaker 3: team on their back on the night that it's necessary
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Speaker 3: and carry them to the next round and your champ.
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Speaker 3: You almost always have a guy like that. And a
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Speaker 3: lot of these top fifteen sixteen teams have got a
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Speaker 3: guy like that, and a lot of them are freshmen,
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Speaker 3: but they're not all freshmen.
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Speaker 2: I know, you can never put the cat back in
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Speaker 2: the bag. And I realize I realized that this has
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Speaker 2: changed that you know was inevitable, but boy, I sure
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Speaker 2: do miss Ralph Samson four years at Virginia and Patrick
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Speaker 2: Ewing four years at Georgetown and Michael Jordan three years
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Speaker 2: at North Carolina. Yeah, just you know, my eyes for
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Speaker 2: Isaiah Thomas two years at Indiana, you know what I mean?
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Speaker 3: Well, how about Zach Edie four years of produce?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go, that wasn't long ago.
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Speaker 3: That had ended in twenty four two time National Player
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Speaker 3: of the Year. He might be the last one because
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Speaker 3: you know who's going to win the National Player of
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Speaker 3: the Year and then not go pro? Well, Zach edy
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Speaker 3: was kind of a unique guy for the NBA, so
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Speaker 3: it took them a while to warm up to the idea.
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Speaker 3: But I guess winning it twice was good enough to
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Speaker 3: get him, get him into the top ten of the draft.
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Speaker 3: But yeah, guys like him well. And then actually, another
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Speaker 3: Purdue guy I don't mean to talk about for do
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Speaker 3: a lot, but Braden Smith is another one. You know,
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Speaker 3: he's a guy that could be a first team All Americans,
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Speaker 3: probably going to be the point guard of the year
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Speaker 3: two years in a row. He's my height, you know,
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Speaker 3: he's five to eleven six feet and uh, you know,
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Speaker 3: how do you who do you guard in the NBA?
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Speaker 3: Six foot tall? It's that's so he's a you know,
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Speaker 3: he's a wizard with the ball in his hand, But
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Speaker 3: who's he going to be able to guard in the NBA?
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Speaker 3: And I wonder if that will hurt his draft stock
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Speaker 3: just being six foot tall.
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Speaker 2: A long time college basketball sage Jerry palm Our guests
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Speaker 2: here today can follow him on x at.
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Speaker 1: JP Palm eighty five.
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Speaker 2: Uh, and he's with palm Brackets dot com, which you
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Speaker 2: certainly we're going to check it out.
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Speaker 1: We're certainly going to check it out, all right.
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Speaker 2: A little bit on the local front here, I'm sure
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Speaker 2: you haven't watched a lot of Washington Huskies basketball this year.
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Speaker 1: They haven't forced their way onto the radar.
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Speaker 2: But this is gun zagabasket all time up here in
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Speaker 2: the Pacific Northwest. And after maybe at the beginning of
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Speaker 2: the year, I was starting to hear this isn't the
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Speaker 2: This might be a year where they take a step back.
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Speaker 2: Here they sit Jerry at what twenty seven and two
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Speaker 2: ninth ranked in America, uh, and seem to be playing
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Speaker 2: about as good a basketball as anybody out there so
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Speaker 2: not named Michigan or Duke. So give me the low
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Speaker 2: down on Gonzaga right now.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're very good. That the wass at Portland is
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Speaker 3: just it's head scratching. How does that happen? That's you know,
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Speaker 3: that's that's Uh, it's gonna cost him a seed line
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Speaker 3: in the bracket, for what that's worth. But there's certainly
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Speaker 3: another one of those teams good enough to win the
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Speaker 3: whole thing, and you know they're doing it, you know,
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Speaker 3: Mark Hughesway, they're not relying on a star freshman. They're
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Speaker 3: one of those teams that's not relying on one of
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Speaker 3: those you know, first round draft pick freshman guys. But
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Speaker 3: they're just they're always solid and solid can sometimes be
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Speaker 3: a pejoritive because that means maybe you're not talented. No,
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Speaker 3: they're talented and solid. So yeah, they they've got some
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Speaker 3: good wins this year. Alabama is the most noteworthy. Of course,
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Speaker 3: they're going to go to Saint Mary's and the regular
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Speaker 3: keeven that's another that's a good team on their schedule
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Speaker 3: in Kentucky of course, so a lot of good teams
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Speaker 3: that they've played in and beaton and and so it's
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Speaker 3: been funny because both losses are just head scratching results.
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Speaker 1: I mean lost Michigan, I mean Michigan, Michigan.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, well they were in the non conference play, they
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Speaker 3: were they were laying waste to everybody that they played.
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Speaker 3: I mean that was probably the worst. But they had
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Speaker 3: five or six thirty point wins in non conference play
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Speaker 3: and then they got into conference play and got a
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Speaker 3: little tougher. But because you know, familiarity, familiarity, breach contempt.
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Speaker 3: But yeah, that Michigan lost it. If I'd watched some
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Speaker 3: of that game, that's it's just like it was just
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Speaker 3: like a no show game. But maybe that was Michigan, no,
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Speaker 3: and not Kinzaka and Portland though, I mean, that's that's Kandaga.
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Speaker 3: You just you know, that's just you weren't for whatever
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Speaker 3: reason that the bio rhythms were bad that day. But Gondagga, certainly,
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Speaker 3: I would be surprised if Candaga wasn't a Sweet sixteen team.
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Speaker 3: And then anything beyond that this year is going to
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Speaker 3: be It's going to take special performances from whoever wins,
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Speaker 3: and a lot of and they're one of those teams
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Speaker 3: capable of those special performances.
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Speaker 2: For a lot of the reasons that you stated, I
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Speaker 2: think Michigan is my pick. I think not having to
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Speaker 2: rely on a freshman to be their.
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Speaker 3: Best freshman guard. But he's I don't know that he's
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Speaker 3: a first round NBA guy, but yeah, he's. Yeah, they're no,
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Speaker 3: they're best players are upper classmens.
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Speaker 2: They're big, they're long, you know, they they've got a
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Speaker 2: superstar on their team. They've got a few guys that
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Speaker 2: are going to play in the NBA. They just I
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Speaker 2: know they lost a duke here recently, but they to
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Speaker 2: me have been the best team in college basketball this year,
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Speaker 2: and I think the most likely to cut down the nets.
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Speaker 1: Who's what's your team for that?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm leaning toward Michigan as well. It's their front
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Speaker 3: court is so good and big. It's it's a big
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Speaker 3: front court that even if you've got like a couple
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Speaker 3: of you know, pretty talented big guy hit the three.
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Speaker 3: So you're you're always, you know, you're always at a
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Speaker 3: disadvantage against them on the boards, in the paint, and
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Speaker 3: and they can shoot from the outside of course as well,
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Speaker 3: because you're nobody successful just playing through the paint. But
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Speaker 3: so it's the Yeah, I think that they're the most verstile.
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Speaker 3: I think they're the most physical, and I think that
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Speaker 3: what they do in non conference play is a reflection
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Speaker 3: of what can happen in the tournament. Now, They're not
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Speaker 3: going to win six games by thirty points. So don't
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Speaker 3: don't get me wrong. I just think that you know,
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Speaker 3: the league teams have them scouted better, and it's it's
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Speaker 3: a real grind in your conference. I think when they
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Speaker 3: get into a non conference play again, they're gonna be
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Speaker 3: kind of a leave to see that.
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Speaker 2: Everybody loves to find out a sleeper so they can
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Speaker 2: look really smart come bracket time. Do you have somebody
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Speaker 2: circled for that, somebody that's off the radar that could
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Speaker 2: be very noisy come playoff time?
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Speaker 3: So if you're talking about someone who could win a
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Speaker 3: game war two, that kind of team, you know, a
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Speaker 3: Sweet sixteen, you know from a lower seed, let's see.
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Speaker 3: I guess I would say, oh, if I'm gonna fix
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Speaker 3: like an eleven seed, if Auburn gets there, I think
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Speaker 3: Auburn's good enough to do something. There is no better
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Speaker 3: tested team than Charles Basketball than Auburn. They've played the
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Speaker 3: toughest schedule of anybody. There isn't anything coming that they
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Speaker 3: won't see. The problem for Auburn, like most teams in
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Speaker 3: that part of the bracket is consistency, you know, it's
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Speaker 3: are they gonna be consistent enough? And then you know,
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Speaker 3: maybe Saint Mary's if they don't get too high of
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Speaker 3: a seed. I said, Saint Mary's is in an eight
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Speaker 3: nine seed, that's a problem. They're not going too weekends.
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Speaker 3: As much as I like him. But and then a
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Speaker 3: little higher seed that could go maybe even deeper than
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Speaker 3: the sweet sixteen. And we talked about a little bit.
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Speaker 3: Is Byu because of the Vansa and the the talent
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Speaker 3: that you know, talk about a guy who can carry
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Speaker 3: a team through a tournament and what I would have
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Speaker 3: had him as a sleeper final four team at Sundratt Gapper.
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Speaker 3: But I think that that's going to limit what they
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Speaker 3: can probably do. But a sweet sixteen from a six
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Speaker 3: or seven seed kind of position for BYU would be
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Speaker 3: not terribly surprising.
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Speaker 2: All right, man, Well, hey, great stuff. As always, I'm
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Speaker 2: looking at Palm brackets right now, all sorts of information.
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Speaker 2: I mean, he's got is Today's bracket up, he's got
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Speaker 2: Bubble Watch, he's got conference tournament previews. I mean, you
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Speaker 2: know you're covering all plus you've got football on there
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Speaker 2: as well.
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Speaker 3: Yes, So the one thing I want to point out
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Speaker 3: on the basketball page is near the top. It's something
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Speaker 3: called a team comparison tool where you can put in
16:58
Speaker 3: two teams and look at their tournament resumes side by side.
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Speaker 1: Nice, good for you, love it.
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Speaker 3: All right, Jerry, So that's a fun feature.
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Speaker 2: All right, Well, thank you very much. We love Avenue
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Speaker 2: on every year and we appreciate the information.
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Speaker 1: And we'll talk to you again soon.
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Speaker 3: All right, thanks, all right.
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Speaker 1: Jerry Palm joining us right here again.
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Speaker 2: You can follow him at JP Palm p Alm eighty
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Speaker 2: five there on X and then palmbrackets dot Com is
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Speaker 2: his new website, new project.
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Speaker 1: Check it out.
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Speaker 2: It's for college football and college basketball, but giving us
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Speaker 2: the latest information. And I don't know, I like to
17:41
Speaker 2: provide this service. I realized that we get bogged down
17:44
Speaker 2: with football season, and once upon a time, college basketball
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Speaker 2: is at the forefront of my mind. I didn't miss
17:51
Speaker 2: a college basketball season. I was dug in as much
17:53
Speaker 2: on college hoops as I was in the National Football League.
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Speaker 1: I don't know if we operate.
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Speaker 2: So much in that space anymore in today's sports talk world,
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Speaker 2: so I sort of need the little update. I'm probably
18:03
Speaker 2: following it more closely than Ashley or Bucky or Rhode Island.
18:08
Speaker 2: A lot of you listening right now, but even I
18:11
Speaker 2: like to use the Jerry Palm breakdown just to see
18:15
Speaker 2: where college basketball is right now. And I mean the
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Speaker 2: highlights there are. It's a top heavy league, but maybe deeper.
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Speaker 2: Maybe there's sixteen teams that can win a national championship.
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Speaker 2: But I wouldn't pick a lot of upsets this year
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Speaker 2: in your bracket and then the freshman class. If you
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Speaker 2: haven't checked it out you're a basketball fan at all.
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Speaker 1: It is sensational.
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Speaker 2: It is just and teams in the NBA are falling
18:38
Speaker 2: all over themselves to lose basketball.
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Speaker 1: There's a reason why this offseason. I mean once by
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Speaker 1: a time we have the lottery.
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Speaker 2: Because of Ralph Sampson, because teams were losing on purpose
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Speaker 2: way back in the early eighties to try to get
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Speaker 2: in a position to draft the seven foot four inch
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Speaker 2: three time player the year out of Virginia. Well we
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Speaker 2: have so a landmark decision was made to invent the
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Speaker 2: lottery to try to prevent this. It didn't work, and
19:10
Speaker 2: so here we are where we've had this problem ever
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Speaker 2: since the eighties. Once people finally realized how important it
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Speaker 2: was to have high draft picks. I mean, there was
19:21
Speaker 2: a time in the Magic Johnson Larry Bird era where
19:23
Speaker 2: they didn't.
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Speaker 1: Even value having the number one pick, and.
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Speaker 2: Then by the time you got to Ralph Sampson, they
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Speaker 2: valued it so much that they had to invent this
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Speaker 2: lottery system to try to curb teams from losing on purpose.
19:35
Speaker 2: And yet they've altered it, but there's not been this
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Speaker 2: land shifting change like we're going to have this offseason.
19:44
Speaker 2: Adam Silver's going to introduce something that you don't see
19:47
Speaker 2: coming to try to curb losing on purpose because so
19:52
Speaker 2: many teams this year are trying to get in position
19:55
Speaker 2: to get one of these freshmen in college basketball. So
19:58
Speaker 2: it takes a special player or a special class of
20:01
Speaker 2: players that introduces, you know, change to this magnitude.
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Speaker 1: And that's what we're getting this year.
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Speaker 4: Well, and I'm excited to see how they decide that
20:10
Speaker 4: they're gonna do it. I mean, we've talked a couple
20:13
Speaker 4: times about it, and Reckless at breakfast this week some
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Speaker 4: of your ideas on ways that they could, you know,
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Speaker 4: avoid the tanking and all of that, and I'm excited
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Speaker 4: to see what they actually come up with.
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Speaker 1: I don't. I really liked your second idea. Yeah, well,
20:26
Speaker 1: I mean they're gonna come up with that.
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Speaker 2: But also the positive side of it is, if you
20:31
Speaker 2: haven't been watching a lot of college basketball, you're missing
20:33
Speaker 2: out on some good stuff because there are a lot
20:35
Speaker 2: of talent. It's just inexperienced talent. But I mean, Cam
20:38
Speaker 2: Boozer is fantastic. He's fantastic. He's probably gonna win National
20:44
Speaker 2: Player of the Year. No, he does not play for
20:46
Speaker 2: Rhode Island. It turns out he plays for Duke.
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Speaker 1: Love of them.
20:50
Speaker 2: I think there was a coin toss at the Boozer
20:52
Speaker 2: household even though dad played at Duke. Should we go
20:55
Speaker 2: to Rhode Island? I mean I think there was a conversation.
20:58
Speaker 2: Maybe there wasn't, but I my mind there.
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Speaker 1: Was, and in mine as well.
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Speaker 2: Ian Fornas Next Sports Radio ninety three point three kJ
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Speaker 2: r f M hosting on the TV side of things,
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Speaker 2: does a hell of a.
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Speaker 1: Job, and I think he does a hell of a job.
21:11
Speaker 2: And the play by play boy I want to hear
21:13
Speaker 2: more of does on play by play without it costing
21:16
Speaker 2: Everett and John.
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Speaker 1: Play by play reps? How do we pull that off?
21:20
Speaker 2: So joining us now on the program to talk some hockey.
21:23
Speaker 2: Is our local hockey expert Ian forness is with us.
21:26
Speaker 1: How are you, sir?
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Speaker 5: I appreciate and I really appreciate the kind words. Monday,
21:30
Speaker 5: I'll be back on the call. John's off Monday doing
21:32
Speaker 5: oh good national duties. So yeah, yeah, I do the
21:35
Speaker 5: I do the Monday home games when John is doing
21:39
Speaker 5: is gone, which he's gone every Monday.
21:41
Speaker 6: So if there's a Monday game, I do the Monday
21:43
Speaker 6: home games.
21:43
Speaker 5: Everett does the Monday road games, and Benton does Monday
21:47
Speaker 5: road games radio. So that's a lot, I know, but
21:49
Speaker 5: that's that's kind of how it works, all right, got it?
21:51
Speaker 1: Got it? There's a schedule, a schedule of events.
21:53
Speaker 6: Schedule, Yes, there is a schedule, as they say, is
21:56
Speaker 6: a schedule, Well.
21:58
Speaker 2: I mean here, we have this Olympic hockey match on Sunday.
22:02
Speaker 2: It got everybody excited for the restart of the season,
22:06
Speaker 2: which was last night. And I think Ashley and I
22:09
Speaker 2: shared the opinion that I don't know if I've been
22:12
Speaker 2: more excited to watch the crack and play hockey all
22:15
Speaker 2: year long, and I was all pumped up for Wednesday.
22:18
Speaker 2: I'm expecting a good game and then they get beaten
22:20
Speaker 2: four to one by the Dallas Stars. How disappointed should
22:24
Speaker 2: we be here today by that performance last night?
22:27
Speaker 5: Well it was it was awful, There's no doubt, there's
22:30
Speaker 5: no sugarcoating it. But I probably could have given you
22:32
Speaker 5: the heads up that that's probably what you could have expected,
22:35
Speaker 5: and only for this Rea.
22:36
Speaker 6: This is a team.
22:38
Speaker 5: You know, every team has their you know, has their kryptonite,
22:41
Speaker 5: right and Dallas is that? For Seattle it's the cracking
22:45
Speaker 5: are now to twelve and one all time. I'm sorry
22:48
Speaker 5: to twelve and two all time against Dallas. I think
22:51
Speaker 5: about that fourteen fifteen games, whatever it is, fifteen games,
22:54
Speaker 5: I guess it is. They've won two games, and that
22:57
Speaker 5: I know. The people say, what about the playoffs, I'm
22:58
Speaker 5: just talking regular season. They did take them to seven games.
23:01
Speaker 5: They won more games in a seven game series against
23:03
Speaker 5: Dallas in the playoffs three years ago than they have
23:06
Speaker 5: in you know, all of regulation, all regular season games.
23:09
Speaker 5: So that's just for whatever reason, that matchup's bad. They
23:14
Speaker 5: they played arguably one of their worst games of the
23:16
Speaker 5: year in that game.
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Speaker 6: They had nine shots on goal through the first two
23:20
Speaker 6: periods of play.
23:21
Speaker 5: It was just and in some ways that's funny we
23:23
Speaker 5: were thinking about it. It's something you can talk about
23:26
Speaker 5: on a team run pregame show. But in the back
23:29
Speaker 5: of all of our minds, I'm sure Allison and Brett
23:31
Speaker 5: and me were all.
23:32
Speaker 6: Thinking, oh God, here we go.
23:33
Speaker 5: Could you have a worse matchup to start the post
23:36
Speaker 5: Olympic break than Dallas?
23:37
Speaker 6: And yes, Dallas was missing.
23:39
Speaker 5: A couple of guys, but including Ratton, who was their
23:42
Speaker 5: best player, they still have two thirty goal scorers on
23:45
Speaker 5: that roster. They're the deepest team probably in the Western Conference,
23:48
Speaker 5: and they just have Seattle's numbers. So tonight's the barometers,
23:51
Speaker 5: Tesk Chuck, Saint Louis is bad.
23:54
Speaker 6: They're not good. It's a team you should beat so tonight.
23:57
Speaker 5: If they come out like that or have a performance
23:59
Speaker 5: like that tonight, then we have an issue.
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Speaker 6: Then we have a conversation.
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Speaker 2: I think, yeah, yeah, And if if we're talking two
24:08
Speaker 2: losses to start this reset here tomorrow morning, for a
24:13
Speaker 2: team that has shown this penchant to.
24:17
Speaker 1: Win a lot in a bunch, win a.
24:19
Speaker 2: Bunch of games in a short period of time, and
24:21
Speaker 2: then they will lose a bunch in a stretch, are
24:24
Speaker 2: we needing to brace ourselves for Oh, no, here we go.
24:28
Speaker 2: Here comes the rough stretch again, and it couldn't have
24:30
Speaker 2: come at a worse time.
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Speaker 5: Well, it feels that that's certainly in the trend this year,
24:35
Speaker 5: and there's no getting around that.
24:36
Speaker 6: I think.
24:37
Speaker 5: The way the schedule sets up, though, it's it's conducive
24:41
Speaker 5: to a little bit of up and down for a
24:43
Speaker 5: while they're playing. You know, Dallas is an elite team.
24:46
Speaker 5: Monday against Carolina, that's an elite team. Saint Louis is bad.
24:50
Speaker 5: Vancouver on Saturday at home is a bad hockey team.
24:53
Speaker 5: They get Saint Louis again next Wednesday, they get Awa
24:57
Speaker 5: after that. They have opportunities here to put to strings
25:01
Speaker 5: and wins together. The NHL is interesting this year, especially
25:04
Speaker 5: in the Western Conference, you know, I mean, and it's
25:06
Speaker 5: so tight, Like in terms of the playoff race in
25:08
Speaker 5: the West, it is so tight right now. You know,
25:11
Speaker 5: Dallas moves up into second place in the Central with
25:14
Speaker 5: seventy nine. But Dallas and Minnesota the second and third
25:17
Speaker 5: place teams in the Central Division, they would far and
25:20
Speaker 5: away be the leaders in the Pacific Division.
25:23
Speaker 6: Right now.
25:24
Speaker 5: Vegas leads with seventy points, Dallas seventy nine, Minnesota seventy
25:27
Speaker 5: eight both in the Central and those teams are just
25:30
Speaker 5: kind of humming along nice and easy right now, whereas
25:33
Speaker 5: in the West it's basically Vegas, Anaheim, Edmonton, Seattle, and
25:38
Speaker 5: la Utah's hanging around the playoff race as well. But
25:41
Speaker 5: keep in mind how the playoffs work. As people say, well,
25:43
Speaker 5: what happens in the first round, Yeah, well, if you
25:45
Speaker 5: finish second or third in your division, you play the
25:48
Speaker 5: other team in your division. If you finish in a
25:50
Speaker 5: wildcard spot, you play the top team in the in
25:53
Speaker 5: one of the two divisions.
25:54
Speaker 6: So as it stands right now, Seattle.
25:56
Speaker 5: Would have to pay Colorado in the first round of
25:58
Speaker 5: the playoffs, but Seattle also by dropping that game last night,
26:01
Speaker 5: but only one point out of the third place in
26:04
Speaker 5: the Pacific Division, and there are two points out of
26:06
Speaker 5: second place in the Pacific Division, so those two.
26:09
Speaker 6: Spots are very much reachable.
26:11
Speaker 5: Obviously, the playoffs are priority number one, but the second
26:14
Speaker 5: priority is to get into the Pacific Division top three,
26:17
Speaker 5: and if you do that then you have a pretty
26:19
Speaker 5: good chance in the first round to see what happens.
26:21
Speaker 5: So it's just it's gonna be that way the rest
26:24
Speaker 5: of the year. It really is, And I think I'm
26:25
Speaker 5: thinking back, It's kind of like, wasn't that the case
26:27
Speaker 5: in baseball last year? Wasn't the central kind of down right?
26:30
Speaker 5: Wasn't the central kind of a down division? And then
26:32
Speaker 5: you know the other two divisions are really good. That's
26:34
Speaker 5: kind of how it works out sometimes. And it's kind
26:35
Speaker 5: of working that way right now for Seattle.
26:37
Speaker 2: And for neessas with us to our hockey expert around
26:40
Speaker 2: these yere parts and of course cracking back in action
26:43
Speaker 2: tonight five o'clock, they'll drop the puck in Saint Louis.
26:46
Speaker 2: We've got your covered here on Sports Radio ninety three
26:48
Speaker 2: point three KJRFM pregame at four thirty. And I would
26:52
Speaker 2: assume you're on television tonight. Is I safe to assougn
26:55
Speaker 2: on that?
26:57
Speaker 6: I hope?
26:57
Speaker 3: So?
26:58
Speaker 5: Yeah, ever know day to day, day to day contract buddy,
27:02
Speaker 5: who knows? Yes, four thirty pre game on the on
27:05
Speaker 5: on TVs and same for Bett.
27:08
Speaker 3: Yes.
27:08
Speaker 2: All right, well let's talk about when this team is cooking,
27:12
Speaker 2: and they need to cook right now.
27:13
Speaker 1: Yeah, what is going what is tendons?
27:16
Speaker 2: What is the tendency that is going right for the
27:18
Speaker 2: crack and what is what's the secret recipe for them
27:21
Speaker 2: when they are playing their best.
27:24
Speaker 5: It's structure, it's great defense, great goaltending, and the power
27:28
Speaker 5: plays going, you know, and I think that's it. Like
27:30
Speaker 5: the power play last night came up empty and for
27:33
Speaker 5: four last night, that can't happen. I think, you know,
27:37
Speaker 5: Joey was okay last night, But in fact, really three
27:40
Speaker 5: of the four goals were deflections that were going well wide.
27:43
Speaker 6: In the net.
27:44
Speaker 5: And if you want to think about that, think about
27:45
Speaker 5: the Olympics. How often do we see that in the
27:48
Speaker 5: last couple that, you know, the last those some of
27:49
Speaker 5: those big games the Olympics. Hillary Night's goal, for example,
27:52
Speaker 5: right going wide in the net to flection in goaltender
27:54
Speaker 5: has no chance. Traffic in front did a bad job
27:56
Speaker 5: in terms of that helping the goaltender out.
27:59
Speaker 6: But that's kind of what it is.
28:00
Speaker 5: The other thing is is all four lines are going,
28:02
Speaker 5: and this is a this is a team that doesn't
28:04
Speaker 5: have high end talent in terms of scoring.
28:06
Speaker 6: They don't have a forty point guy.
28:07
Speaker 5: They're one of like four or five teams in the
28:09
Speaker 5: league doesn't have a forty point guy right now, but
28:11
Speaker 5: but they chip in. You know, as a team, it's
28:13
Speaker 5: it's team scoring. As they call you hear team toughness
28:16
Speaker 5: or team scoring.
28:16
Speaker 6: And that's what they'll do.
28:17
Speaker 5: And I think, you know, part of the issue with
28:20
Speaker 5: this team is they're they're healthy now, they're trying to
28:23
Speaker 5: find their way in terms of their top three lines
28:25
Speaker 5: and who's where.
28:25
Speaker 6: They didn't have Koppococo last night. They gave him a
28:28
Speaker 6: rest day of maintenance date.
28:29
Speaker 5: But he'll be back tonight and that helps their depth
28:32
Speaker 5: and I think really it's depth scoring.
28:35
Speaker 6: But that top line was really good. I will say this,
28:38
Speaker 6: right before the.
28:38
Speaker 5: Break, you know, Maddi Venier's, Jordan Eberley and and Jerry
28:42
Speaker 5: McCann were really cruising like they were.
28:45
Speaker 6: They were humming along at a very high rate.
28:47
Speaker 5: And they need those guys to keep going. But can
28:49
Speaker 5: just looked off last night. And I think, you know,
28:52
Speaker 5: it's hockey is a funny game.
28:54
Speaker 6: It can you know.
28:55
Speaker 5: They I always think of Pete Carey can't win a
28:57
Speaker 5: game in the first quarter. Well, no, you can't, not
29:00
Speaker 5: necessarily in hockey. Maybe you can, though you can have
29:02
Speaker 5: a two to one win or one nothing win. McCann
29:04
Speaker 5: had two or three opportunities on an early power play
29:07
Speaker 5: and he just whiffed, I mean swinging a miss like
29:10
Speaker 5: just whiffed and timing was off. You can't replicate timing
29:14
Speaker 5: in training camp or a practice like they've had the
29:17
Speaker 5: last couple of weeks. I expect him to be better
29:19
Speaker 5: at a five game point street coming to an end.
29:20
Speaker 5: But their top line has to be good, goaltending has
29:23
Speaker 5: to be you know, borderline elite, and they just have
29:27
Speaker 5: to play within the structure that Lane Lambert wants. And
29:29
Speaker 5: none of those things happened last night. They did a
29:31
Speaker 5: poor job in front of Joey. They did a poor
29:33
Speaker 5: job at clearing in the front of the net, and
29:34
Speaker 5: you know, three shots that should not have gone in
29:37
Speaker 5: went in because there was traffic in front of the court.
29:39
Speaker 5: And frankly, they just that's also as funny they played
29:42
Speaker 5: Kesey to Smith and goal last night. For Dallas, he's
29:45
Speaker 5: their backup, their number one guys Jay Ottinger, he played
29:47
Speaker 5: for the US Olympic team. He was a backup to Hellabuck.
29:51
Speaker 5: He didn't play last night, but that wouldn't matter. He
29:53
Speaker 5: wouldn't have played anyway because the Smith is six and
29:56
Speaker 5: now he's seven to one all time against the Seattle. He's
29:58
Speaker 5: never given up more than one goal against the Sattle.
30:00
Speaker 5: He's got their number two. It was just truly chucked.
30:03
Speaker 5: I'm giving excuses, but it's reality. Bad matchup they take
30:07
Speaker 5: on to Saint Louis team tonight.
30:08
Speaker 6: It's just awful. Like they're eight games below five hundred.
30:12
Speaker 5: They've had five wins since the start of the new year.
30:15
Speaker 6: Since January first.
30:17
Speaker 5: Robert Thomas is probably their best all round player both
30:20
Speaker 5: ends of the ice. He's out tonight for personal reasons,
30:23
Speaker 5: may end up getting traded and maybe a guy that
30:26
Speaker 5: ends up here at some point next week. Never know,
30:29
Speaker 5: he's a guy that could be on the block. So
30:32
Speaker 5: it's all there for them. They're vetteran back to backs.
30:34
Speaker 5: They're four to one in their last five six back
30:37
Speaker 5: to back game second half, so that was a problem
30:39
Speaker 5: last year. They're not having that same problem this year.
30:41
Speaker 5: So they need to get this one tonight. Make no
30:44
Speaker 5: mistake because one game last night. Again, they go into
30:47
Speaker 5: last night out of the break, they're in third place
30:49
Speaker 5: in the Pacific. One game later, with everything else that happened,
30:53
Speaker 5: they're down the second wildcard spot.
30:54
Speaker 6: The good news is we do think the.
30:59
Speaker 5: Vegas Golden Knight for something, and that's the fact they
31:01
Speaker 5: beat the Kings last night. In regulation, so Seattle's still
31:03
Speaker 5: three clear of LA for that final wildcard spot.
31:06
Speaker 2: All right, last minute, I got to ask you. I mean,
31:09
Speaker 2: for a hockey fan such as myself, I loved Sunday,
31:13
Speaker 2: For a hockey nutbag such as yourself, what did you
31:17
Speaker 2: how did you take in Sunday?
31:18
Speaker 1: How much did you enjoy that?
31:21
Speaker 6: I just thought it was awesome for the game. I
31:23
Speaker 6: thought the game itself. You know, it's off. It's not
31:25
Speaker 6: often that that, you know, big games live up to
31:28
Speaker 6: all the hype going in.
31:29
Speaker 5: But you know, maybe one of the most talented teams
31:32
Speaker 5: ever assembled for Team Canada in the history of the game.
31:35
Speaker 5: And that includes the great Soviet Union teams and Canada
31:38
Speaker 5: Cup teams and you know even the two and twenty
31:40
Speaker 5: ten Canadian teams.
31:41
Speaker 3: That team was.
31:42
Speaker 5: Loaded and the US played with them the entire game. Yeah,
31:45
Speaker 5: they got out shot and Hallibuck was unbelievable and saved
31:49
Speaker 5: them many many times.
31:50
Speaker 6: But that's the sport.
31:51
Speaker 5: Like your goalie last year, Bennington did that for Team
31:54
Speaker 5: Canada and the Four Nations.
31:55
Speaker 6: But it was a great game.
31:56
Speaker 5: For the game it was. It was just a great matchup.
31:58
Speaker 5: It's too bad it was at five am time. The
32:00
Speaker 5: TV number though, was massive. I think, God, if it
32:03
Speaker 5: would have started at eight am Ppacific time, what would
32:05
Speaker 5: it have been. It was the highest rated sporting event
32:07
Speaker 5: in this country that started before nine am Eastern.
32:10
Speaker 6: Ever, so people tuned in the phone calling.
32:13
Speaker 5: Everything that happened afterwards was really unfortunate, and I think
32:16
Speaker 5: it's taken away a little bit of something from that game,
32:18
Speaker 5: and that's that's that's unfortunate. Hopefully as history goes by,
32:22
Speaker 5: we'll remember more of the fact that the Team USA
32:24
Speaker 5: wins a gold medal for the first time in forty
32:25
Speaker 5: six years.
32:26
Speaker 6: Jack Hughes is a superstar.
32:29
Speaker 5: It was just a good day for the sport and
32:31
Speaker 5: hopefully it kind of boos things the rest of the
32:33
Speaker 5: way for the NHL. And I think if for nothing else, chuck.
32:36
Speaker 5: You know, if you're a young kid playing minor hockey
32:38
Speaker 5: and anytime you go out to case I, there's three.
32:41
Speaker 6: Sheets of ice and they're always full. The game is
32:43
Speaker 6: growing every single day. I think.
32:45
Speaker 5: I think that's the bigger picture that we get out
32:47
Speaker 5: of it, too, is that it helps the game overall.
32:49
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I agree.
32:50
Speaker 2: I mean, if it's turned into a hot med in Arizona,
32:52
Speaker 2: for goodness, sake the sport.
32:53
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean it's it's really fifty.
32:57
Speaker 6: If you look at the roster real quick.
32:58
Speaker 5: For the US, it used to be all those guys
33:00
Speaker 5: that people have watched the Netflix documentary, they either came
33:03
Speaker 5: from Massachusetts or Michigan maybe or Missigo, Minnesota. Yeah, now
33:08
Speaker 5: there are players on Team USA and playing throughout the
33:10
Speaker 5: NHL from Texas thanks to the Dallas Stars, and there's
33:13
Speaker 5: Stanley Cup win years ago.
33:14
Speaker 6: We're seeing all those players Arizona like you mentioned.
33:17
Speaker 5: As well, and I think it won't be too long
33:20
Speaker 5: before we start seeing more than one or two guys
33:22
Speaker 5: from our area as well, because the minor league, minor
33:24
Speaker 5: hockey round here is growing at an incredible rate.
33:27
Speaker 1: Great stuff.
33:28
Speaker 2: We'll be watching tonight, thank you very much, sir, and
33:30
Speaker 2: uh we'll be tuned in later.
33:32
Speaker 1: Today as well. You're back on the air, right, I'm sorry,
33:35
Speaker 1: I am.
33:36
Speaker 6: On a one. Yeah, okay, we're gonna do it.
33:38
Speaker 5: We'll do We'll do a little shinding at one o'clock
33:41
Speaker 5: and see what happens there and then hand it off
33:43
Speaker 5: to Dick Fain after that.
33:45
Speaker 6: So yeah, we'll be on at one o'clock today.
33:46
Speaker 1: All right, sounds good?
33:47
Speaker 2: Thank you I for net joining us right here on
33:49
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33:52
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33:54
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Speaker 2: We also are gonna hear from Kevin Seitzer in our
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Speaker 2: final hour as well, and then we'll close out the
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Speaker 2: show with one last thing here on this Thursday.
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Speaker 1: No Bucky jacobsonting here today, getting in the way of progress.
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Speaker 2: Yeah you sall that hot air up on the mountain. Yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 2: exactly where you belong. So it's Ashley and I. There
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Speaker 2: was a trade today in the National Football League. By
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Speaker 2: the way, Jeremiah Johnson's that's not his name, is it?
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Speaker 1: Did I say that right?
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I saw that a long where Jermaine Johnson.
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I've turned him into a Robert Redford character
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Speaker 2: there for a second. Jermaine Johnson of the New York Jets,
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Speaker 2: the former first round pick out of Florida State, has
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Speaker 2: been traded to the Tennessee Titans for the monstrous to
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Speaker 2: Andre Sweat. So interesting as the Titans with their brand
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Speaker 2: new head coach looking for a little more speed off
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Speaker 2: the edge where the Jets trying to look for the
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Speaker 2: run stuffer. Sweat was having a pretty good impact on
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Speaker 2: the Titans, or so I thought. But they were traded
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Speaker 2: for each other earlier today, so there does There are
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Speaker 2: some things that get done during this NFL combine, even
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Speaker 2: if it's not as much about the workouts as it
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Speaker 2: used to be. And of course it all leads up
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Speaker 2: to the NFL Draft. I mean, that's the beauty of
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Speaker 2: the NFL combine. It really is the introduction to you know,
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Speaker 2: oh yeah, Draft miss is right around the corner, and
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Speaker 2: so we get excited or I do, anyway about the
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Speaker 2: NFL combine and getting all those cheat codes from Daniel
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Speaker 2: Cheremiah company this weekend. But the Seahawks sit with a
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Speaker 2: thirty second pick and they only have four picks in
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Speaker 2: this entire draft, and every year we have this conversation
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Speaker 2: anyway that John's going to trade out. He doesn't always
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Speaker 2: trade out. People act like he does it every single year.
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Speaker 2: He doesn't always trade out, and he does occasionally trade up,
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Speaker 2: which he doesn't get credit for either. There's just this
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Speaker 2: perception that he's always trading down and picking up more picks.
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Speaker 2: But he does do it, there's no question about it,
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Speaker 2: just not to a fault like some people seem to
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Speaker 2: think that he does.
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Speaker 1: Well.
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Speaker 2: This is the year for sure that he's going to
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Speaker 2: trade out of the thirty second pick in the draft.
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Speaker 2: He only has four picks this year. I mean, my goodness.
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Speaker 2: Mike McDonald pretty much revealed we're going to get more picks, yeah,
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Speaker 2: you know, in his comments yesterday. So if ever there
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Speaker 2: was a year that he's trading down, it's going to
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Speaker 2: be this year. And there's an actual reason. It's not
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Speaker 2: just because John Schneider wants more pick. The thirty second
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Speaker 2: pick has a little bit more value than other spots
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Speaker 2: from the trade down standpoint, because for teams that actually
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Speaker 2: would like to get a quarterback, by chance, they can
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Speaker 2: slip into that thirty second pick, and that means they
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Speaker 2: get that fifth year option available to them, and it
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Speaker 2: particularly comes in handy when it comes to quarterbacks. And
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Speaker 2: so usually you go through that draft process and people
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Speaker 2: always talk about how the first pick of the second
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Speaker 2: round is a logical one to be traded, and the
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Speaker 2: last pick of the first round. So whoever would like
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Speaker 2: to have whoever has a multitude of picks, they're not
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Speaker 2: short on picks, but also so they can sacrifice a
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Speaker 2: couple of those, but also would like to have that
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Speaker 2: leverage of that fifth year option that they could pick
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Speaker 2: up on whoever they pick up, whoever they draft at
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Speaker 2: number thirty two, and if it's a quarterback.
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Speaker 1: You certainly want that fifth year option.
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Speaker 2: It just makes sense that it marries with a team
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Speaker 2: that only has four picks, that loves to have more
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Speaker 2: than four picks every draft obviously, and has a reputation
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Speaker 2: for trading down. So it just puts us in. It
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Speaker 2: just puts John in an almost absolute position to move out.
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Speaker 4: Of that selection well, and especially because he's made it
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Speaker 4: clear that a fifty year option isn't important to them,
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Speaker 4: and they don't even I mean, when he was talking
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Speaker 4: about JSN and Devin Witherspoon, He's like, I mean, we
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Speaker 4: don't we're not looking at that. This is the last
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Speaker 4: year of their contract going into it and talking about
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Speaker 4: free agent being free agents.
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Speaker 1: He talked about that he doesn't care about that fifty
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Speaker 1: year option.
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Speaker 2: Oh well, they're not a negotiation. But I mean it's
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Speaker 2: nice to have.
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Speaker 4: Especially if you have a they don't use it very often.
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Speaker 2: Especially if you have that quarterback there that you still
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Speaker 2: need a little more evaluation on. Now, the other aspect
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Speaker 2: of this is that you don't really have a quarterback
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Speaker 2: that feels like he's going to be back into the
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Speaker 2: first round.
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Speaker 1: Worthy, and that's where the draft combine comes in. Today.
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Speaker 2: Mendoz is not going to throw Ty Simpson has agreed
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Speaker 2: to throw. I don't think Simpson will slip as far
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Speaker 2: as number thirty two, but if.
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Speaker 1: He does, now we're really in a leverage position. Yea,
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Speaker 1: if you're John in the Seahawks.
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Speaker 2: But it's kind of worth watching the process to see
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Speaker 2: if any of these other guys club Nick from Clemson
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Speaker 2: or nuss Meyer from LSU, or apparently this kid from
39:35
Speaker 2: North Dakota State can sling in a little bit as well,
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Speaker 2: if one of those guys that at one point was
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Speaker 2: considered a first round pick can reestablish their position through
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Speaker 2: the draft process. I mean, it would only be advantageous
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Speaker 2: for the Seahawks to have one of those guys emerge
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Speaker 2: again as a first round late first round candidate. At
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Speaker 2: this stage, though most of the expert I can't find
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Speaker 2: an expert that has another quarterback going in the first
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Speaker 2: two rounds wow, much less in the tail end of
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Speaker 2: the first round, So something worth monitoring. I think that
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Speaker 2: if you're a Seahawk fan, you might root a little
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Speaker 2: bit for some quarterback to make a name for himself,
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Speaker 2: become the hot name out there that slips into the
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Speaker 2: first round, because it could lead to extra picks considering
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Speaker 2: where the Seahawks sit right now. All right, coming up next,
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Speaker 2: we're gonna get a little reckless at breakfast to hear
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Speaker 2: this morning and talk about another big picture item out
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