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ITV 176: TS Madison: From Adult Films to Fame — The Rise of a Black Trans Millionaire · Inside The Vault with Ash Cash

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[SPEAKER_01]: One thing I want you to clear up right here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You said, when I heard you, you felt that I was strong.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: How do that smell?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I can smell you from like, yeah, don't let this wig and these motherfucking tedious fool you bitch.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm from the block.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I've always been a girl, girl, girl, girl, girl.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Until I became burned.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Someone had happened.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You're a man!
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[SPEAKER_01]: Make up your fucking mind.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I did.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They always talk about, oh, this porn star.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Why you keep pushing the porn star?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Girl, I have writing credits on Beyonce's album.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I have so television shows.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I have licensed my name to use on television, licensed.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I tell people this on a custom basis.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You get a small bit of belief to unlock real power.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What black people have done to us is black trans people and black queer people.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They've other deaths.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I took every, every rock that was still on to me and I built the fucking house.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm up there causing confusion at work.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I was getting terminated from work because I was like, I'm not gonna keep, I gotta work for me.
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[SPEAKER_03]: If your discretion is advised, this episode contains strong language, adult themes, and explicit content related to sex work, identity, and personal experiences.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It may not be suitable for children or sensitive viewers.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: This is one of the realest and most powerful conversations we've ever had.
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[SPEAKER_03]: TS Medicine shares her truth with our honesty, bonus, and wisdom.
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[SPEAKER_03]: If you can get past the shock, you'll get the gyms, so watch with an open mind, and more importantly, an open heart.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Alright, so welcome to another awesome episode of Inside the Vault with Ashcash, the greatest money mindset show on the planet.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Listen to day show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Today's show will be crazy, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: We go, this is going to be a fun one, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: We have T.S.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Madison, who is that?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Bill their T.S.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Madison is a walking empire, a dynamic force of nature who rose from viral internet fame to global cultural influence and it's nothing she is nothing short of iconic from her breakout vine moment in two thousand thirteen.
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[SPEAKER_00]: with new ways, twenty two inches to becoming the first black trans woman to executive produce and star in her own reality series.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She has broken barriers with boldness and brilliance, but behind a viral moment is a powerful blueprint.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Madison is a walking testament to how your voice, your story and your authenticity can be monetized.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She turned her personality into digital currency, building a multi
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[SPEAKER_00]: Million dollar brand by mastering the art of online influence, self-production, and community engagement.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She received the Grammys certificate for her songwriting contribution to Beyoncé's Renaissance album, credited on the track, Cozy, which helped the album when best dance, electronic album.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She's also the powerhouse behind FatTalk, Ph.A.G.
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[SPEAKER_00]: a successful live event series that fuses empowerment, real talk and visibility for LGBTQ plus voices with sets Madison apart.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's her business acumen and mental strategy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She didn't just go viral.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She got intentional through her creator income live platform.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She now teaches
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[SPEAKER_00]: how others can flip their content into capital, their pain into purpose, and their brandets of bankable equity, ladies and gentlemen, round of applause for T.S.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Madison, honey.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What do you mean, Ash, I got to get you to be a high, oh yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god, you know, sinner listening to that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It sounds like a lot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because it is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And when you, when you don't, when you're walking in it, you really not thinking about doing it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, and then, and then thinking about like, I have made multiple amounts of money a lot, but I spent more time not so money.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Sure.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that the the the the whole key to being wealthy or and having a being rich.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, whatever it's knowing in your mind that you you deserve it and that it is yours.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that what tends to happen is that people look at something about oh she's not rich.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She don't have any money because she don't dress this or she doesn't but did a camera go off.
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[SPEAKER_01]: See, you heard it go off door.
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[SPEAKER_01]: See how, listen.
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[SPEAKER_01]: When I used to do adult film, because that's where it started.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The true root to the wealth came way before only fans.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like only fans is an entity now that's like popular, you know, and it was popularized really after the pandemic.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, and I really had the opportunity to watch all these people really become like extremely rich.
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[SPEAKER_01]: off of only fans and and and they were like a lot of mainstream people and I sat back when it when the first wave of the came through and I was like you know it was so crazy all these people are doing this stuff and this is the this is the thing that kept me out of mainstream
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[SPEAKER_01]: So now when the pandemic comes, here's everybody everywhere now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, oh, I want to take my clothes off.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to sell feet.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I want to do a niche market of, I want you to see my butt crack.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I want, you know, I want to, and the straight men started doing this stuff.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like they started, they started teasing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, the gaze doing the gay baiting like that like straight me and understood started to understand like oh I could use my big dick print and tease these girls into make it give me a twenty dollars fuck for content and then when the people when they fool the girls into getting into their only fans they got the dick print there can we can we say
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[SPEAKER_01]: You can say, okay, all right, no, you can say, it's like that's bad.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, so we are, I mean, let's come out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We have to vote.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Not they got their dick print showing whatever.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's just like, oh, well, when are you gonna take it off?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then, you know, then they added tears to it like, oh, for fifty nine, ninety nine, you know, I'll put, you know, so I was like, oh, now they understand how, you know, to manipulate the system.
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[SPEAKER_01]: When this is something, I was doing way back, like, when I first moved to Atlanta,
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[SPEAKER_01]: I moved to Atlanta with two suitcases and maybe three wigs and no I was homeless.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I have two houses here when in Florida.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I've I've been up and down with money, you know, like I was about a billion dollars.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I did, I won't point three million dollar house.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I may sell it in the next two years and buy me a five million dollar house.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think when the next wave of money comes through, the way the wave of money is going to come through because I believe it and I know it that it's going to come through.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I used to be a sex worker, I walked street, so whatever.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And the biggest thing that I learned in sex work is that everything is everything is prostitution.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Everything some you you have something that you're selling somebody wants to buy it Wow, okay, and you have to In that mine space understand that they're all trying to fuck you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh Yeah, so you just have to make sure that when they're fucking you that you're the one getting the ninety percent and they're getting tan
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, so I want to fast-track to, I moved up here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I learned how to read CMS and HTML and coding on the internet.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to my girlfriend's taught me how to do that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I never walked the streets here in Atlanta.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I went directly into web porn video on demand.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I became so popular that I can't shake it to this day.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like when any of those vicious websites post me, instead of posting anything, any of my accolades is going on there post a video me walking or it's a hair cuter, you know, like so that people can.
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[SPEAKER_01]: you know, try to read me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And they always talk about, oh, this porn star, why you keep pushing the porn star?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, girl, I have writing credits on Beyonce's album.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Girl, I'm on an Emmy award winner show.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Bitch, are you crazy?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I have so television shows.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I have licensed my name to use on television, so the license, meaning that they have to pay me to use my name to air on television.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Bitch, are you crazy?
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I'm not a porn star bitch.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm a walking bitch.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I've always been a walking business woman.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I learned from my very first video that popped up that I was in my own niche market.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I said, in order for me,
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[SPEAKER_01]: to be one of one, I have to be one of one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I looked around at everything that was supposed to be in the competing area.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I saw what they were all doing exactly the same.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I said, I have to do something completely different.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Everybody's doing the same.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that means everybody's going to have the same type of money.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want the same type of money.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I want a different type of money.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to be the only one in my laying doing what I can do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I was watching the girls, when they were doing the adult film, they were either signing on to a company and allowing a company to use their likeness and employ them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, like when I came out, I was, I'm a well-indoubt girl.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I make no, I'm not ashamed or I make no excuse about it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was born, I have a big dick.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I have that, and I have a lot of body.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I have plus size, I have big breasts.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm a beloved she was presenting female presenting trans women.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so the market was all the girls were thin.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, okay, so I know I'm going to spin into the BBW category.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All of them were either white or light skin.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm brown, dark brown.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Then they were all clean shaving.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I said, okay, well, let me let me let me let the hair around my nuts grow.
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[SPEAKER_01]: and let me let the hair open to my arms grow, let me let this grow because you know, there's there's somebody out there that wants that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think what tends to happen is people want people think that in order for it to work for you, it has to follow this certain protocol.
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[SPEAKER_01]: When you need to have your own, when you find your own space,
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[SPEAKER_01]: You've got to capitalize off of that space.
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[SPEAKER_00]: When did you get that mindset from though?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because like I think a lot of people, I mean, majority of people do the opposite, exactly what you say.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But like what made you have the mindset that says, like going, you know, doing?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like what gives you the mindset to do my own thing the mindset of doing my own thing like like when everybody's going one way was what made you say I'm gonna go to opposite way and opposite way is actually gonna be successful.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, well again, I used to be a hooker on the walk in the street.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I would I would see all the girls that everyone would think that was so fabulous and so beautiful and so sexy and so fine and so like every all the men wanted them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then I would admire them, but I would also see them struggling.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I would see them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I would see them their cars get a repossessed or them or them having to move to to new apartments or they were always congregating on the corner about like what was going on terrible and they're like, and I'm like, girl, what are you doing?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like what bitch you bad?
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[SPEAKER_01]: How are you?
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is why my confidence in my confidence in myself was feeling so high because I worked around bad.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't have any.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't give a fuck how if you shape like a figure A, if you don't have you have no waist, if you're a girl of a certain color, if you're thin, if you're, I don't give a fuck about none of that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I come to get with my.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I would watch those girls work and then I would also see them struggle.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, what are they doing wrong?
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[SPEAKER_01]: They all have the same body type.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They all wear the same type of hair.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They all say to, they all tell everybody on the sidewalk that they are, that they have places.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I was like, oh, y'all are selling pussy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, I have a big dick.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What you're doing forward?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I did what the opposite of what they were doing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Everybody wanted to sell pussy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I don't have that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I can't sell you that baby.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I could say you, I could say you by the edge.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What you need.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I got that and so that's what made me understand that you got to do the shit opposite because I was never convicted my life stayed on yeah I kept a car yeah so and I moved here with the same mindset after you know because here's the I got caught up
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm trying to be like them, like adding more body, like getting more body work and, you know, trying to be that and they made me six.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I got silicone poison and I ended up having to lose, I lost my apartment, I lost my car, I lost my stuff and I ended up having to go back home, trying to be like the it girl.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I was like never again, when I get up off of this bed, I'm going back to the mindset that sent me apart from them anyway.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I've walked in that ever since.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I just, when everybody's doing it, I don't want to do it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I want to make, I want to do something and then everybody starts doing that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So would you, would you, would you say that the key to your success has been authenticity?
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's been authenticity and carving my own lane.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Everybody wants to sit at the table and I know the sounds cliche.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Everybody wants to sit at the table.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But if you build your own table and you build it bold enough,
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[SPEAKER_01]: gold enough.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it shines bright enough.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All those tables that are around everybody trying to sit to.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They look it over there like hockey, sit over there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I wish a different price over here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Even when I was an escort here, like I did do my website here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I did escort here as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Even when I was a hooker here, not a hooker, I was excuse me, hooker won't walk the street.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Escort that came to me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Even here, when everybody was running specials and all the girls had gotten to this space in their mentality where like the economy is getting bad, I need to drop my prices.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, bro, this is the time you raise the price.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's called exclusivity.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I have a whole site over here that's called BigDickBish.com.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Bish, nobody has, nobody has name their site.
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[SPEAKER_01]: BigDickBish.com.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Everybody was naming this site.
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[SPEAKER_01]: T.S.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This or, or sexy this or, or she meal that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, no honey.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because I named my name my site BigDickBish.com because I planned on at some point, some area in my, in my trajectory, I was going to replace myself with a slew of BigDickBishes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I had become so notorious for that name, infamous for that name, and infamous for the content that I was putting out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That moniker stuck with me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you Google right now, big dick bitch, I can't trademark any of that because those are regular words and vulgarities together.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But a picture of all of thirteen, fourteen year old picture of me will pop up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Wow.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Wow.
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[SPEAKER_01]: my whole line of sex movies will pop up a stream of DVDs will pop up and it will pop up from the place of I'm even with the sex work business DVDs.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No girl was independently putting DVDs out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I walked in the store here in Atlanta and that was a second way of income from me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I walked in the store here in Atlanta.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was called Starship.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I walked in the store as a Starship at the time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He was a lesbian, but now he's a trans man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I met a person by the name of Tay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to respect him now because he's a trans man now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I met him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: and he said to me, hey, you know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I seen some of your stuff on the internet.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Would you like to be in the store?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, sure, how do I do it?
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[SPEAKER_01]: She said, well, he said, like, well, let me talk to some people over there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Can you get me some stuff on the desk?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I immediately pulled my little team that I had together.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, hey, I need to put
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[SPEAKER_01]: Take these movies make them HD put them on a disk I need to take my greatest clips my greatest videos that are on my website put them in a compilation all my dick second videos I need to put them on a make a series about me second day all my topping men like me on the top I need to put that on on a row this all the men's like me because I got a big ass I need to put that on there all the group sex shit I need I need to put that on a set of this I need to get one disk one from each
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[SPEAKER_01]: a genre of six that I've done on my website and I need to package it up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I found a person here in Atlanta that did, uh, uh, shrink wrapping.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I ordered DVD pack DVDs, uh, the Inst things off of Amazon.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I found somebody that was going to print the ins or so.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I had, I took pictures and I, I did a collage picture.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I had the guy designing and they did the ins or something.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I came up there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I gave, take, take his name is, take what, well, his name was, take his name is Jason Cypert now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I gave Jason, I think, fifty DVDs.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Take it was about fifty.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I said, do what you can do with these DVD.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They flew out of the store.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Then it became so high demand.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was from fifty to five hundred to five thousand.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Then it was distributed all over.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is why I'm so notorious.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, it was distributed all over the southern parts of Atlanta.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was all in making.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was in, it was all over.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was so all over.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I had people that I know personally, it was actually related to me saying, hey.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was in the sex store, is this you?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I had posters of me hanging on the wall in the store where I was having my endowment out and my titties show and it was just like nobody could keep my stuff on the shelf.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What drove you to sex work though like what like I'm being tell what to do yeah and being and being told that as I can't work here because you know I'm I'm forty eight years old so you got to think about I'm almost fifty year old person yeah
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[SPEAKER_01]: This was years ago, the progressive stuff that we've gotten into now, and the countries trying to roll all its stuff back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But the progressive stuff that we've gotten into all the way now, even in the Trump administration was going on now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was a lot of stuff that was going on back then.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Mitch, I was going to go to work, and I didn't change my name.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was Timothy at work, but I was this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't give up what I'll say.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Timothy's not present this way.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, and so I'm up there causing confusion at work.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I got a small ways.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I got a big ass, big titties, and the men are at work.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, you know, gawking.
20:15
[SPEAKER_01]: And this is like, man, sir, you're causing confusion here.
20:19
[SPEAKER_01]: So I was getting terminated from work because, you know, it was a, it was a, it was a, it was a real, real transaction will come and do this.
20:27
[SPEAKER_01]: Be it.
20:28
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, it's so.
20:32
[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, I'm not gonna keep, I gotta work for me.
20:34
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
20:35
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
20:35
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
20:36
[SPEAKER_01]: Cause I'm gonna live this life.
20:37
[SPEAKER_01]: This is who I am.
20:38
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
20:39
[SPEAKER_01]: And you, I'm not gonna, you're not gonna tell me, I can't eat or I can't have a roof over my head.
20:43
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
20:43
[SPEAKER_01]: But I can't pay my bills because you're disturbed by my presentation.
20:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
20:47
[SPEAKER_01]: That don't got none to do with me.
20:48
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
20:49
[SPEAKER_01]: And so that's what drove me to doing sex.
20:51
[SPEAKER_01]: Because at first I used to look down on it.
20:52
[SPEAKER_01]: I used to look down my nose at prostitutes.
20:55
[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, you know, while you girls can't go get no job, until the transition started happening, I was like, oh, this way, they can't take you.
21:03
[SPEAKER_00]: And then, and so, and this is just like my curiosity, right?
21:07
[SPEAKER_00]: Like at what point did, did Timothy feel like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, you know, I want to present as a woman like that doesn't remember seventeen eight the seventeen eighteen is I really started living at heavy at nineteen twenty But you know, I really started living at heavier around that time, you know, that's kind of like the time that's you always know or when I knew from day one okay, they want like I knew from day one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I knew from day one.
21:34
[SPEAKER_01]: I could tell you back Everybody else around me do it like the boys around me's like you look I want to say don't look dead at the camera and say this
21:44
[SPEAKER_01]: I've always been a girl girl girl girl girl until I became girl and then it was your man.
21:51
[SPEAKER_01]: But it's I've always been girl girl.
21:54
[SPEAKER_01]: You, you, you, you feminine.
21:56
[SPEAKER_01]: You so, you gay, you, you a girl.
21:58
[SPEAKER_01]: I've been around boys like, why you talk to that?
22:00
[SPEAKER_01]: You, you a girl, you think you a girl?
22:02
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, you are, you a girl.
22:03
[SPEAKER_01]: I was always told this by people that were trying to be, you know, mean to me like, you're a girl, you a girl, girl, girl, girl.
22:11
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay?
22:11
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
22:12
[SPEAKER_01]: So when it happened, you're a man.
22:17
[SPEAKER_01]: Make up your fucking mind.
22:19
[SPEAKER_01]: I did.
22:20
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
22:20
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
22:21
[SPEAKER_00]: And so it almost feels like your life started in the opposite, even young.
22:27
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
22:28
[SPEAKER_00]: Wow.
22:29
[SPEAKER_00]: Wow.
22:29
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
22:30
[SPEAKER_00]: And then so now.
22:33
[SPEAKER_00]: sex work, sex work.
22:36
[SPEAKER_01]: And so I was trying to find different avenues on, you know, because when I moved here, it was everything became strictly digital.
22:43
[SPEAKER_01]: And so after a while, I was just like, okay, I'm tired of this is very important.
22:48
[SPEAKER_01]: We gotta talk about this.
22:51
[SPEAKER_01]: After a while, I found myself tired of all those men calling me for sex.
22:57
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, and like, all my videos were going crazy.
23:00
[SPEAKER_01]: They couldn't keep on the show up in the store.
23:02
[SPEAKER_01]: They were actually stealing.
23:04
[SPEAKER_01]: They said, put my videos behind the count.
23:06
[SPEAKER_01]: Wow.
23:07
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
23:07
[SPEAKER_01]: And the men were coming to like, you got those, you got those big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big.
23:12
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just, yeah.
23:14
[SPEAKER_01]: The men would come in there and search it for, hey, hey, you got those big things.
23:18
[SPEAKER_01]: You know why?
23:20
[SPEAKER_01]: The creative loafing.
23:22
[SPEAKER_01]: I have been a disruptor for very long time.
23:25
[SPEAKER_01]: I remember putting an ad in the back of the creative loafing.
23:30
[SPEAKER_01]: Coca-Cola here in Atlanta was going to pool
23:36
[SPEAKER_01]: themselves from the creative loathen because I was in the back of that pay.
23:39
[SPEAKER_01]: Wow.
23:40
[SPEAKER_01]: Wow.
23:41
[SPEAKER_01]: So they changed away all the girls who had to advertise.
23:44
[SPEAKER_01]: They couldn't put pictures past the neck because I was tucked around hunting and all you caught was from the back and it said to it for a good time.
23:52
[SPEAKER_01]: www.bigdickbish.com.
23:56
[SPEAKER_01]: So the biggest, the key places where you're going to advertise is radio.
24:04
[SPEAKER_01]: paid newspaper television.
24:06
[SPEAKER_01]: I couldn't get on television at the time.
24:10
[SPEAKER_01]: Radio wasn't going to be, you know, it wasn't going to be talking about.
24:13
[SPEAKER_01]: So it was the paper.
24:14
[SPEAKER_01]: I was in the back of those ads.
24:16
[SPEAKER_01]: Those books in the back that went in the strip clothes would have mean come out in the strip clothes.
24:19
[SPEAKER_01]: They're going to strip clothes.
24:20
[SPEAKER_01]: I was in all those books back there.
24:22
[SPEAKER_01]: I paid top dollars a day.
24:24
[SPEAKER_01]: Like sometimes they're charging me like a thousand and a fifteen hundred thousand months to run ads in the back of those books.
24:29
[SPEAKER_01]: But it didn't matter because fifteen hundred dollars we're turning to fifteen thousand or hundred and fifty thousand dollars because it was WWW.
24:40
[SPEAKER_01]: then the way that came through was the social wave and it was, I was trying to find a way not to put BigDivist.com on Facebook or anywhere like there.
24:55
[SPEAKER_01]: This is a key component for anybody out there that's trying to think about how to make shit move.
25:04
[SPEAKER_01]: You don't move.
25:05
[SPEAKER_01]: You let the people move it for you.
25:07
[SPEAKER_01]: The best people to advertise for you is opposition.
25:13
[SPEAKER_01]: The opposition does the best form
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[SPEAKER_01]: of PR for you, you, the money can't buy it.
25:22
[SPEAKER_01]: The bad now thing, the hate, the viral moments.
25:27
[SPEAKER_01]: I would, I would feel on such vicious videos with me and niggas that, I'm talking to my hood niggas, fine ass niggas, raw ass niggas, niggas, bitch, bitch, clown, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,
25:45
[SPEAKER_01]: Because in their mind, they were doing, like this girl's doing, I paved the line for them to do that.
25:51
[SPEAKER_01]: In their mind, nobody was, nobody they knew was gonna be watching it.
25:56
[SPEAKER_01]: You've got to be a certain thing to look for that.
25:58
[SPEAKER_01]: But the biggest consumers of adult film are men, women like to see, women like big digs on anything.
26:12
[SPEAKER_01]: And not only that,
26:15
[SPEAKER_01]: The people that were outing these in the end for finding them doing sex videos with me were sometimes the mean that was in fantasy of wanting to be in those videos.
26:25
[SPEAKER_01]: I remember a clip was going so viral on social media that I got a call from my old hometown back in Florida and it was like, oh, bitch, you can't never come back down here.
26:36
[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no, no.
26:36
[SPEAKER_01]: Because that neighbor son you was fucking, he gonna kill you because he's that's he a big dope way down there.
26:41
[SPEAKER_01]: He's son was fucking you.
26:43
[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, who are you talking about?
26:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Then the group then it started saying I tricked him.
26:49
[SPEAKER_01]: He didn't know what I was.
26:50
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like girl.
26:51
[SPEAKER_01]: Look at the video.
26:52
[SPEAKER_01]: My legs are wide open.
26:53
[SPEAKER_01]: You can't miss their date land now.
26:55
[SPEAKER_01]: He damn showed you.
26:57
[SPEAKER_01]: He missed it.
26:59
[SPEAKER_01]: He was long digging me in that bitch was flopping right there, girl.
27:02
[SPEAKER_01]: He means that mother fucker.
27:04
[SPEAKER_01]: The video just was viral because he was, it was, he was fine.
27:10
[SPEAKER_01]: He had a lot of dick.
27:11
[SPEAKER_01]: He was a nigga.
27:13
[SPEAKER_01]: He would pop out, pop out and flip me over.
27:16
[SPEAKER_01]: I laid there, put my shit in the mission area position.
27:19
[SPEAKER_01]: We would have on a grand old time.
27:21
[SPEAKER_01]: The hood niggas found it and they posted it on social media.
27:25
[SPEAKER_01]: And it got millions of people.
27:30
[SPEAKER_01]: millions of views on social media.
27:32
[SPEAKER_01]: So you think if something is getting millions of views on social media?
27:36
[SPEAKER_01]: You're not gonna get a million views on a big, big, big stock.
27:39
[SPEAKER_01]: You're not gonna get a million subscription, but you won't get a portion of that.
27:42
[SPEAKER_01]: Because you only saw the thirty seconds, forty five seconds.
27:48
[SPEAKER_01]: I need to see, did he, did he come?
27:50
[SPEAKER_01]: Was there a robber?
27:52
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, it was just all of that shit going on.
27:55
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I gotta get in here.
27:57
[SPEAKER_01]: And so I'm capitalizing for that.
27:59
[SPEAKER_01]: But the real payoff was,
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[SPEAKER_01]: www.vad.co.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's six seconds, those six second videos completely changed the trajectory of my life completely.
28:14
[SPEAKER_01]: I never have to do adult film again after those vines started to drop.
28:21
[SPEAKER_01]: what people didn't understand what they were doing at in those moments.
28:25
[SPEAKER_01]: Those viral clips of me going viral on that.
28:28
[SPEAKER_01]: No way, twenty-two inches.
28:30
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
28:31
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, flying in my tent is around in my flasket cock.
28:35
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, me coming to the door saying, come on in.
28:37
[SPEAKER_01]: Biggie Beach.com.
28:40
[SPEAKER_01]: Before I did any of those little, little six seconds new videos of me online, I researched to see was there anybody else doing it?
28:48
[SPEAKER_01]: No one else was doing it.
28:49
[SPEAKER_01]: I said, well, here I come.
28:50
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
28:51
[SPEAKER_01]: here I go and I just like to say thank you to whoever that was that thought they were doing the disservice or thank you for who's with me to those conversations because ninety percent of the celebrities that know me now
29:09
[SPEAKER_01]: who I've got money with, who I've worked with, who I have sitting next to on television shows with.
29:18
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll tell you the very first time I saw you was from those little clips.
29:24
[SPEAKER_01]: Because it was a party favor for them to drop those little clips in there to make us gag.
29:29
[SPEAKER_01]: It was nothing for me to pick my phone up and see you doing this.
29:32
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought it was so funny.
29:33
[SPEAKER_01]: I shared it.
29:34
[SPEAKER_01]: And then this was shared it.
29:35
[SPEAKER_01]: And this over there.
29:37
[SPEAKER_01]: The Osborns had it.
29:42
[SPEAKER_01]: They were about to book me to jump out of their daughter's cake for her birthday.
29:47
[SPEAKER_01]: Repar had it like it was it was a party dad.
29:52
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's my that's that's it right there sit right next to my to my mom.
29:56
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but you got to know that you got to follow You got to follow your own lane.
30:03
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I ain't never trying to feed him to nothing a mother fucker got one.
30:06
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah, yeah
30:08
[SPEAKER_00]: Now I love that.
30:10
[SPEAKER_00]: So let's talk about money and mindset, right?
30:13
[SPEAKER_00]: So like now, you know, vine.
30:16
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, and that's another, that's another bar that you just dropped out on people that just kind of really pick up though, right?
30:24
[SPEAKER_00]: Is that.
30:26
[SPEAKER_01]: a lot of times the the things the opposition or people try to do to stop you can actually be a propel you it's always it's always it's always the thing it propels you because people start talking they start talking they start sharing yeah they start you know this is why people now are trying to always find a viral moment sure you know and and now I've noticed I've noticed a lot you know because people uh it
30:51
[SPEAKER_01]: they'll use your name to populate in the algorithm, you know, and this is what I'm doing to create the income, the creator income, the creator income, the creator income live mentorship program is because I want people to understand the ownership of your name, your name being in the algorithm, your name being in that, it's just like, you know, who's making money up this?
31:16
[SPEAKER_01]: Cause that's trademarked.
31:19
[SPEAKER_01]: That's digital property that's owned by me.
31:21
[SPEAKER_01]: My name is digital property.
31:23
[SPEAKER_01]: I need the lean in on this.
31:24
[SPEAKER_01]: You might be talking bad about me, but how can I, how can I pull from your channel to get me somebody this month?
31:29
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
31:29
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
31:30
[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't want to talk about, right?
31:31
[SPEAKER_00]: Because, um, you know, what?
31:34
[SPEAKER_00]: from being able to turn whatever opposition or adversity into your favorite each time doing the opposite, you know, being in your own lane.
31:44
[SPEAKER_00]: Now to being able to, you know, being exclusive rooms and being in, you know, the places that people can't, you know, get into making millions of dollars
31:56
[SPEAKER_00]: You've now decided that you want to give back, right?
31:59
[SPEAKER_00]: You want to teach people how to, you know, turn their names into digital money.
32:05
[SPEAKER_00]: Talk a little bit about like why is mentorship, like so important to you.
32:09
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, mentorship is very important to me because you got to understand that in order for you to keep well, you have to share it.
32:16
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
32:17
[SPEAKER_01]: because if you have your hands closed like this nothing can come in.
32:23
[SPEAKER_01]: I've always learned that even when I go because even even wealthy rich people go through financial situations because money is always fluctuating.
32:31
[SPEAKER_01]: The stocks fluctuate.
32:32
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I'm saying?
32:33
[SPEAKER_01]: So money is always fluctuating.
32:36
[SPEAKER_01]: If you, I tell people all the time when you're down to your last dollar give it away because it will come back to you.
32:45
[SPEAKER_01]: in a way that you don't understand.
32:47
[SPEAKER_01]: It's the thought process of holding on to money.
32:51
[SPEAKER_01]: You don't necessarily hold on to money.
32:53
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, it's the law of reciprocity.
32:56
[SPEAKER_01]: You give out, it returns back to you.
32:58
[SPEAKER_01]: Whatever you give out returns, it's always spiritual.
33:02
[SPEAKER_01]: Whatever you give out to the universe will return back to you.
33:05
[SPEAKER_01]: And so as long as you know that yet it's my last dollar.
33:10
[SPEAKER_01]: I got you.
33:11
[SPEAKER_01]: Somebody behind you got panicked for somebody in the universe, your answers, whatever it is, is going to pay for it to you.
33:18
[SPEAKER_01]: And I've always understood that me sitting on information or knowledge, it ain't making me no money.
33:27
[SPEAKER_01]: You get what I'm saying.
33:29
[SPEAKER_01]: Why would I not share information on how to get money and then attach myself to this so we can come back to me?
33:35
[SPEAKER_00]: And I love that you're doing it because when I think about, I told you behind the scenes, I've been introduced to you by my wife where I hear your voice every day.
33:46
[SPEAKER_00]: Every day in the house, I hear your voice.
33:50
[SPEAKER_00]: And I would have conversations with my wife and exactly what you just played today.
33:56
[SPEAKER_00]: around your business acumen and what you do, but she always talks about your community, how you've built a community of people who trust you, people who kind of hang on to your every word, and to now be in a position to give back to that community by not just entertaining them, but giving them
34:17
[SPEAKER_00]: you know, ways that they can actually build financial freedom, how to save on taxes, how to trade our name, how to build generation of wealth.
34:27
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I love that.
34:29
[SPEAKER_00]: So, so how do you know, right?
34:30
[SPEAKER_00]: Because we mentioned earlier about like, you know, RuPaul being your mentor, what's your strategy for like networking and building mentorship?
34:40
[SPEAKER_00]: And when do you know,
34:41
[SPEAKER_01]: you know to let go of like toxic relationships like this is what my strategy for building relationship with people is understanding that as a store myself because I've I've always created a content around discussing popular events sometimes my friends come up on the table and it's like hey I could call my friend
35:07
[SPEAKER_01]: I could call my partner or my associate and ask them what's going on.
35:12
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
35:12
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't talk about people that I can pick up the phone and call or I don't go too deep in on them like because I like I got to understand that social currency is currency as well because you know what what what do I gain talking down on tech talking down to about them on my social platform when I can bring them on my platform.
35:31
[SPEAKER_01]: and then that the views come up and then that's more money in my purse.
35:36
[SPEAKER_01]: I make more money by collabing than I do by chopping somebody down.
35:41
[SPEAKER_01]: Now what people tend to do in that same breath is some people will come and they'll try to absorb your energy and they will, they will always your enemy.
35:53
[SPEAKER_01]: And then they'll, as a, as a trans person, we're in a climate right now where anti-trans conversations are popular on the list.
36:03
[SPEAKER_01]: You're going to get fifteen hundred people probably in your comment section.
36:06
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the dude.
36:07
[SPEAKER_01]: That's a man.
36:07
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the nigga.
36:08
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the home.
36:09
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the boy.
36:10
[SPEAKER_01]: He ain't never going to be no real woman.
36:12
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, we're not talking about me being a real woman.
36:14
[SPEAKER_01]: And we talking about finances.
36:16
[SPEAKER_01]: But they're so focused on me being trans.
36:18
[SPEAKER_01]: They're going to be blinded by the game that I'm putting in there here.
36:23
[SPEAKER_01]: And so what tends to happen is some people have found the niche to capitalize even off of that, even off the anti because there's people over there like, oh, I hate that.
36:35
[SPEAKER_01]: I shouldn't share this, but I'm going to because it's funny.
36:41
[SPEAKER_01]: Somebody probably will use it.
36:43
[SPEAKER_01]: We plan on doing a hate group for TS Madison.
36:47
[SPEAKER_01]: I hate that bitch.
36:48
[SPEAKER_01]: I can't stand that bitch.
36:49
[SPEAKER_01]: And we're gonna charge those people to come in there, honey, and mother fucking goddamn.
36:53
[SPEAKER_01]: So they all hate for shit, they wanna say.
36:55
[SPEAKER_01]: They're probably no one behind it now, but they're probably, who, for those that miss this interview, we gonna make some money off of that mother fucking shit right there.
37:04
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, you get good money off the fan club, but the hate club, you gotta get that money too.
37:08
[SPEAKER_01]: And then once it's really revealed, I'm gonna pop it up.
37:10
[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, y'all.
37:12
[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, that's my domain, y'all join.
37:13
[SPEAKER_01]: Hey y'all join, y'all join, y'all join, y'all.
37:17
[SPEAKER_01]: You bought me a new car.
37:20
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you, bitch.
37:22
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, you have to make everything work for you.
37:24
[SPEAKER_00]: For sure.
37:24
[SPEAKER_00]: For sure.
37:25
[SPEAKER_00]: How do you bounce or like as, um, you know, advocate for black trans people?
37:31
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm, I'm advocate for black trans people.
37:33
[SPEAKER_01]: But I'm, I'm an advocate for black people in general.
37:36
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
37:36
[SPEAKER_01]: But I advocate heavy for black trans people because what black people have done to us is black trans people and black queer people, they've uttered us.
37:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Like once you say you're trans, like your blackness is gone.
37:50
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think that they think that we remove ourselves from our blackness, but we live our blackness every day.
37:55
[SPEAKER_01]: But we live in our blackness and our trans, our queries and our gain is simultaneously.
38:00
[SPEAKER_01]: Like it's happening at the same time.
38:03
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, so I'm an advocate for for for all black rights now that our trans might be leading because you know, I get I get from my own people like when you shouldn't I think black people have this preconceived notion that we have all these rights because now we're we're a little bit what I wear LBG TQI and I like where did you get that information yeah
38:25
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, you got that from.
38:26
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm a nigga and I ain't just no regular nigga.
38:28
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm a nigga with titties at the top and dick at the bottom bitch.
38:32
[SPEAKER_01]: So now I got to fight the niggas in my own community.
38:34
[SPEAKER_01]: They hate me for being that.
38:36
[SPEAKER_01]: And I got to fight the cracker.
38:38
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
38:39
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's I don't know.
38:41
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm on a fight fight situation.
38:42
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
38:43
[SPEAKER_01]: But I also know in that saying, well, I got to fight the cracker because my nigga brother next to me need my help too.
38:50
[SPEAKER_01]: Because I'm still him.
38:52
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm still her.
38:53
[SPEAKER_01]: So I can't remove myself from there.
38:55
[SPEAKER_01]: They don't fuck with me.
38:57
[SPEAKER_01]: They never moved that from me like now.
38:58
[SPEAKER_01]: You will get you a fad.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So nine fighting with you.
39:03
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
39:03
[SPEAKER_01]: And like I talk about this, you know, my show, how hurtful it is, you know, to be a queer person.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And knowing that when I'm talking about stories, that a hane stories that have happened to people of color, black men in particular, I know that black men and you'll get up and say one story and I'll make one post and I'll give one piece in the fight.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
39:29
[SPEAKER_01]: or protection.
39:30
[SPEAKER_01]: I know he never do that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But it's not duty to do that for him because that's my brother.
39:36
[SPEAKER_01]: That is my brother.
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[SPEAKER_01]: When I see you as a man and something else should happen to you, I see my brother.
39:44
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
39:44
[SPEAKER_01]: I have brothers.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Some shit happen to my girlfriends.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I have cousins.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't have sisters, but I've female cousins.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I like bitch.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I got mom.
39:54
[SPEAKER_01]: I got mom.
39:55
[SPEAKER_01]: I got nuts.
39:56
[SPEAKER_01]: And shit.
39:56
[SPEAKER_01]: Like when shit happened to black women.
39:58
[SPEAKER_01]: So what are you?
39:59
[SPEAKER_01]: What are we talking about here?
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[SPEAKER_00]: We do think like the, I think like the hate or the
40:09
[SPEAKER_00]: This missing, like when does that come from?
40:11
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, like, it comes like a self awareness or it comes from the religion is one of the biggest separators, especially in our community.
40:26
[SPEAKER_01]: It's one of the worst things to ever happen to us.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Religion, not God.
40:32
[SPEAKER_02]: I get it.
40:32
[SPEAKER_01]: Not God.
40:33
[SPEAKER_01]: I get it.
40:34
[SPEAKER_01]: Religion and the institution of it and people I've watched black people sow their last dollar into a white church.
40:45
[SPEAKER_01]: a white mega church.
40:48
[SPEAKER_01]: I've seen black people take their last dollar and sew it into the church period and receive nothing from that.
40:55
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, you sold this into the church and won't sew it into your own community where it flips around.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The church building funds still been going on at the thirty years and then you built shit on the side of the fucking church.
41:06
[SPEAKER_01]: The grass still ain't cut outside.
41:09
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I'm saying?
41:10
[SPEAKER_01]: But the passing up pulled up in the new fucking car.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The day I'm first lady got a nasty head, every fucking weed.
41:18
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
41:19
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Crifload dollar got a new jet.
41:24
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
41:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Mr. QDJ's got a thirteen million dollar home.
41:30
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you feel what I'm saying?
41:31
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
41:32
[SPEAKER_01]: And then you look at me as a person who's a content creator say, oh, you don't deserve that.
41:39
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
41:40
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
41:41
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think one of the things, you know, when you think about content creation, you think about what people could say you deserve or don't deserve, I mean, you've earned it, right?
41:54
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, you've worked for, you know, you've, you know, put yourself out there, you're authentic self and people are
42:03
[SPEAKER_00]: connected to you as a person and connected to your personality.
42:06
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that's one of the things that I appreciate about anybody who is their authentic self is people don't realize how you becoming your authentic self is saving lives.
42:18
[SPEAKER_00]: Like you saved lives.
42:19
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I hope you know that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I try.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I hope you know that.
42:22
[SPEAKER_00]: But you saved lives because, you know, I think anybody who's able to lift a spirit.
42:29
[SPEAKER_00]: Right?
42:30
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
42:30
[SPEAKER_01]: He is a life seed.
42:31
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a very much so.
42:33
[SPEAKER_01]: And anybody who's vulnerable enough to share a story where their life is almost taken for them.
42:38
[SPEAKER_01]: And I talk consistently about God, the Holy Spirit, the Holy Ghost, or whatever it is that's attached to me, walking with me through the entirety of my life and making me make the decisions that I've made even.
42:51
[SPEAKER_01]: even down to what even down to what people may think are the filters, ones, you know, because I understand that living your life as a person who has public office or public, you know, it's not your life.
43:06
[SPEAKER_01]: You're an example and this is why you've always supposed to give back because it's not yours.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The money I get ain't mine.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That ain't my money.
43:16
[SPEAKER_01]: That's... No.
43:18
[SPEAKER_01]: No, you can't, no, no, no.
43:19
[SPEAKER_01]: Now we can work together, nigga.
43:21
[SPEAKER_01]: We can make something together.
43:22
[SPEAKER_01]: But I can't get you, no, no, no, no, no.
43:24
[SPEAKER_01]: And man, ask me for money, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit,
43:40
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, and I'm almost stupid as a jokester or whatever, but I tell people
43:47
[SPEAKER_01]: Instead of asking somebody for money, because a person can give you money.
43:50
[SPEAKER_01]: But money is not valuable.
43:54
[SPEAKER_01]: Knowledge is the most valuable thing that you give somebody.
43:58
[SPEAKER_01]: Because if you give somebody money, they're going to spin it up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But if you give them knowledge, they don't make more money all the time.
44:06
[SPEAKER_01]: When I sit in a room like all my rich friends, I would like, like I could have been the talent of Paris House.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I've walked in and she, I tell him I forgot I'm reaching, I'm reaching, I'm reaching, I'm with the telepathy house, I was like, oh, I'll text that nigga, I said, me go, me go, me go, me go, me go, me go, me go, me go, me go, me go, me go, me go, me go, me go, me go, me go, me go, me go, me go, me go, me go, me go, me go, me go, me go, me go, me go, me go, me go, me go, me go, me go, me go, me go, me go, me go, me go, me go, me go, me go, me go, me go, me go, me go, me go, me go, me go, me go, me go, me go, me go, me go, me go, me go, me go, me go, me go, me go, me go
44:38
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'd say, that's the kind of money I want, but that's the kind of money I can make.
44:42
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not that far from him.
44:44
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
44:45
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
44:45
[SPEAKER_01]: He ain't the another thing I can do.
44:47
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
44:49
[SPEAKER_01]: I tell people this on a constant basis.
44:52
[SPEAKER_01]: You need a small bit of belief to unlock real power.
44:56
[SPEAKER_01]: People don't have no belief.
44:59
[SPEAKER_01]: And you know why I know people don't have no mother fucking ability.
45:01
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm looking at the camera.
45:02
[SPEAKER_01]: You wanna know how I know you mother fucking holes don't have no belief.
45:06
[SPEAKER_01]: Cause you don't think I did it.
45:07
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah.
45:10
[SPEAKER_01]: Ain't no way that nigg.
45:11
[SPEAKER_01]: Ain't no way.
45:12
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sending you a tell of you.
45:13
[SPEAKER_01]: I got like the mother.
45:14
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
45:15
[SPEAKER_01]: Ain't no way.
45:16
[SPEAKER_01]: Why?
45:18
[SPEAKER_01]: Why?
45:18
[SPEAKER_01]: Because I'm a faggot to you or you think that, you know, I took every rock that was going to me and I built the fucking house.
45:27
[SPEAKER_01]: Are you crazy?
45:28
[SPEAKER_01]: I took you every brick and built a fortress.
45:31
[SPEAKER_01]: And it was like, all right, cool.
45:32
[SPEAKER_01]: So this is how we, this is how I got to eat.
45:34
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, if I got to pick it up off the floor to eat it, it's okay because I won't be always picking it up off the floor to eat it.
45:41
[SPEAKER_01]: Bitch, I'm gonna have a prepared for me because the book told me that he should prepare table before me in the presence of my enemies.
45:47
[SPEAKER_01]: And my enemies have been eaten for the past decade.
45:51
[SPEAKER_01]: Eat up bitch.
45:53
[SPEAKER_01]: You got another course coming.
45:55
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
45:55
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
45:56
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
45:57
[SPEAKER_01]: eat up bitch.
45:58
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
46:00
[SPEAKER_00]: So, so, you know, as someone that, you know, that, you know, you know, now I haven't always been good with my even.
46:10
[SPEAKER_01]: I've been up and down, I've lost, I've been
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[SPEAKER_01]: in a broke place.
46:17
[SPEAKER_01]: I go to financial struggles too.
46:19
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, they may not be unique as financial struggles.
46:23
[SPEAKER_01]: She'd have, I'm telling them, I'm going to financial struggle.
46:24
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, shit, I need a new, I need a hundred thousand, I need two hundred fifty thousand real quick.
46:29
[SPEAKER_01]: But then I need it real quick, but then I get it.
46:32
[SPEAKER_01]: Because by law, you'll be over there.
46:33
[SPEAKER_01]: And you're like, huh, we've been a broker a deal over year.
46:35
[SPEAKER_01]: We bought the license this, we bought the license net.
46:37
[SPEAKER_01]: And he had go hundred thousand, he had go one fifty, he had go two, he had go three harm.
46:42
[SPEAKER_01]: You understand what I'm saying?
46:43
[SPEAKER_01]: So if I'm telling you I got a financial problem, Mia, you're not on the same level pool, right?
46:48
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's the other question, right?
46:50
[SPEAKER_00]: So like, remember that, be it.
46:53
[SPEAKER_00]: How, how important is that though, right, to surround yourself?
46:55
[SPEAKER_00]: Because you know, I think that a lot of people believe that money solves all problems.
47:00
[SPEAKER_01]: Don't solve all problems.
47:01
[SPEAKER_00]: Honey, it's over here now.
47:03
[SPEAKER_00]: How important is, is it to surround yourself around people who like your CPA?
47:09
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, let's say you got to understand if you are the smartest person in the room, but you got to get out of there.
47:15
[SPEAKER_01]: If you're the richest person in that room, you got to get out of there.
47:19
[SPEAKER_01]: You got to get out of there.
47:21
[SPEAKER_01]: If ain't nobody ever who got more money than you.
47:22
[SPEAKER_01]: And then you got to get out of there because the people gonna be needing you.
47:26
[SPEAKER_01]: I need to learn how to get.
47:28
[SPEAKER_01]: I just, I just said to you.
47:30
[SPEAKER_01]: Ash, I want them in mother fucking Tyler Perry's house.
47:33
[SPEAKER_01]: And I text that nigga.
47:34
[SPEAKER_02]: I was texting.
47:36
[SPEAKER_01]: I was texting.
47:36
[SPEAKER_01]: I put milk.
47:39
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, so many days in the end.
47:40
[SPEAKER_01]: God damn.
47:43
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
47:43
[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, never mind.
47:44
[SPEAKER_01]: You got all that shitty said because I'm wealthy.
47:46
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm rich.
47:48
[SPEAKER_01]: And I felt like he was saying, bitch, I see you in the last time I saw him, you know, no, no, no, you got it.
47:53
[SPEAKER_01]: It's cute for you.
47:54
[SPEAKER_01]: I pulled up there with him in my two hundred thousand dollar car and it felt like I was doing something.
47:58
[SPEAKER_01]: He's a part that over there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, oh.
48:02
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah.
48:03
[SPEAKER_01]: I pulled up in my wife for two hundred thousand.
48:05
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna call me.
48:06
[SPEAKER_01]: There's like part that over there.
48:07
[SPEAKER_01]: I said, oh, this is real money up in here, bitch.
48:11
[SPEAKER_01]: This real money in here.
48:13
[SPEAKER_01]: And that was a motivated for me.
48:15
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I'm saying?
48:16
[SPEAKER_01]: That was a motivating thing for me.
48:17
[SPEAKER_01]: That was the thing that made me be like, girl, I gotta, I can't do exactly what he's doing in the exact, but I can do something like it.
48:25
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
48:26
[SPEAKER_01]: I could do something like it.
48:27
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
48:29
[SPEAKER_01]: I could do something like it.
48:32
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
48:33
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
48:35
[SPEAKER_00]: And actually, so how do you, you know, how do you, because like, online trolls hate and I see how you're using that to your benefit, um, is there part, is there any part that, um,
48:53
[SPEAKER_00]: Is the, does the hate ever penetrate?
48:56
[SPEAKER_00]: I guess it's the right question.
48:57
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm trying to, um, it all depends on like if it's, if it's like going after my family.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
49:02
[SPEAKER_01]: Then that's one light bitch.
49:03
[SPEAKER_01]: Now I'm on your, now I'm on your ass.
49:04
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
49:05
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I'm saying?
49:06
[SPEAKER_01]: Like I really don't, I don't really get, I write until it gets on my mama.
49:11
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
49:12
[SPEAKER_01]: Cause I said in this same room right here, bitch, I will be your ass on live TV by my mom.
49:17
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
49:17
[SPEAKER_01]: I stomp your ass on live mother fucker TV by now.
49:21
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
49:22
[SPEAKER_01]: And someone else is going to bitch at you too.
49:23
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, but that's my own.
49:25
[SPEAKER_01]: That's my friend.
49:26
[SPEAKER_01]: That's not only my friend, but that's my backbone.
49:28
[SPEAKER_01]: That's my confidence.
49:30
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the person that I love and I cherish.
49:31
[SPEAKER_01]: But you ain't going to put your mother fucking dick eaters on my mom.
49:34
[SPEAKER_01]: And think that I ain't going to run down on you verbally.
49:37
[SPEAKER_01]: And if I need to run down on you, bitch, you will get up under the wheels under two hundred thousand dollar copies.
49:42
[SPEAKER_01]: But I have people that pull me back from those dark areas like
49:45
[SPEAKER_01]: Girl, I'm girls gonna want to sue you or don't girls don't want to do you girl you got it you can't fight fight you in a different place man.
49:51
[SPEAKER_01]: I just son a nigga today.
49:53
[SPEAKER_01]: I just son a nigga india Because he asked me could you could he come spin the night.
49:59
[SPEAKER_01]: I was like hold on hold on
50:03
[SPEAKER_01]: You've got to protect your brain.
50:05
[SPEAKER_01]: You've got to protect your brain.
50:07
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's what we're going to learn in the Creator in the Creator group.
50:10
[SPEAKER_01]: You've got to protect your brain.
50:11
[SPEAKER_01]: Your brain is everything.
50:13
[SPEAKER_01]: My team around me, I tell my team, listen, I ain't trying to run you naked's life, but get you up nigga.
50:19
[SPEAKER_01]: get you a bitch or two?
50:21
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
50:22
[SPEAKER_01]: You get what I'm saying?
50:23
[SPEAKER_01]: Because you are targets because you attach to me.
50:27
[SPEAKER_01]: And they may can't penetrate directly to me, but they're damn so try to hit your mother's fucking ass.
50:33
[SPEAKER_01]: So all that being out there in the streets party, like people that's associated with me, I have to keep in my circle tiny because I got to keep an eye on their mother fucking ass because they can cause me much.
50:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
50:46
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
50:47
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
50:48
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
50:49
[SPEAKER_01]: And so, I always give people in the A's and I see how if there has a tent on one of Saturday and the A with me, I don't fuck with them.
50:59
[SPEAKER_01]: Because it's like what are your intentions?
51:00
[SPEAKER_01]: Because it's easy right here.
51:02
[SPEAKER_01]: If you come in this bitch with, and you ain't got no ill intentions, sign the paper.
51:08
[SPEAKER_01]: When you're doing it, I'm a sucker fucking lickin' and gittin' and stickin' and doin' all this shit.
51:11
[SPEAKER_01]: They can sign the paper, what you wanna do?
51:13
[SPEAKER_01]: What's your plan?
51:15
[SPEAKER_01]: What's your real secret?
51:16
[SPEAKER_01]: What's your real secret?
51:17
[SPEAKER_01]: Why are you here?
51:20
[SPEAKER_01]: Huh?
51:21
[SPEAKER_01]: What do you got planned?
51:22
[SPEAKER_02]: Right, right.
51:23
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, you can't do that.
51:24
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, cool.
51:24
[SPEAKER_01]: Now we ain't fucking in second.
51:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah.
51:28
[SPEAKER_01]: And a lot of times that restricts me from sexual activities because people like, oh, I do that.
51:33
[SPEAKER_01]: I do that.
51:34
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, oh, okay.
51:35
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
51:36
[SPEAKER_01]: I want to do that either.
51:37
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
51:37
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
51:38
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
51:39
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a new day.
51:39
[SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm.
51:40
[SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm.
51:41
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
51:42
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
51:43
[SPEAKER_00]: What would you say watch somebody join you with the, you know, for your five-day mentors?
51:50
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, people should join me because if you really watch, I have rebranded myself so many times.
51:55
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I, I am an endless rebrand.
51:58
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
51:59
[SPEAKER_01]: If you can't come in and learn little tip bits of something for the little amount of, I should be charging you bitches a thousand fucking dollars a damn sign of.
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[SPEAKER_01]: For the game, for game.
52:09
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
52:10
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I should be charging for that.
52:12
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm letting the code do.
52:14
[SPEAKER_01]: I think that the VIP is ninety seven dollars and it's been five days with the five days of me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The VIP ninety seven dollars.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You could put this shit on corner.
52:24
[SPEAKER_01]: And the the regular is forty seven.
52:27
[SPEAKER_01]: It's forty seven dollars.
52:28
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I'm saying?
52:29
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm taking the car.
52:30
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm taking the bitch.
52:31
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm getting stabbed in the bike.
52:33
[SPEAKER_01]: The get you fired it.
52:34
[SPEAKER_01]: That's five days out of my mouth, but the life I could be over there.
52:37
[SPEAKER_01]: But I want you to understand that the economy is about to get real bad.
52:41
[SPEAKER_01]: And if you're making money now, I want you to protect it.
52:45
[SPEAKER_01]: I want you to multiply it, be it.
52:47
[SPEAKER_01]: And I also want you to regurgitate it.
52:49
[SPEAKER_01]: So that it's like a machine.
52:51
[SPEAKER_01]: It washes in and washes out.
52:53
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, some people may think they know
52:56
[SPEAKER_01]: what they know, but I don't know a little bit more.
52:58
[SPEAKER_01]: And then all I don't know how surrounded myself with my CPA, with my lawyer, with my lawyers.
53:05
[SPEAKER_01]: I have lawyers.
53:07
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
53:09
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And my lawyers get me lawyers if they need it, if I need more lawyer.
53:14
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
53:15
[SPEAKER_01]: You understand what I'm saying?
53:16
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a network of situation because the goal is you are a brand.
53:22
[SPEAKER_01]: You have to protect that.
53:23
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
53:24
[SPEAKER_01]: And people think that a brain, oh, like, oh, this is the brain.
53:28
[SPEAKER_01]: No bitch.
53:29
[SPEAKER_01]: This, the flesh, the blood, the bone is a brain.
53:34
[SPEAKER_01]: And you have to protect that at all course.
53:36
[SPEAKER_01]: And again, I want to piggyback off of what I said earlier, this is why I'm very meticulous about the group, my friend circle, because they can be a detriment
53:46
[SPEAKER_01]: to the brain.
53:48
[SPEAKER_00]: And the funny thing about it, even when you start thinking about AI and technology, the only thing that's going to separate anybody is their authentic self, right?
53:59
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's show if they don't learn how to monetize themselves and who better the AI going for what they're into and start vlogging.
54:07
[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
54:08
[SPEAKER_01]: But they're doing it now, they're gonna do it.
54:11
[SPEAKER_01]: They vlogging, they got AI.
54:12
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, see that shit will crazy.
54:15
[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, oh, no.
54:17
[SPEAKER_01]: And at least, I get a lot of things from Facebook because she just messed and you tell so much of your business.
54:27
[SPEAKER_01]: But who gives a fuck?
54:29
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I'm like a million bucks with Facebook once.
54:34
[SPEAKER_01]: Like a million dollars or like, what was Facebook?
54:38
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, from doing, because they used to, and this is the time, the little rich ass crackers had money during the period of time that they was trying to, when they were trying to write off.
54:49
[SPEAKER_01]: So they was coming up with all kinds of programs.
54:51
[SPEAKER_01]: So they was a program that they were coming up with.
54:53
[SPEAKER_01]: I knew about this AI shit way before was getting ready to come.
54:56
[SPEAKER_01]: And it was like, hey, Madison, we want to bring you in on this thing, but the AI, and we want to, we want to, we want to, we want to, we want to, want you to come on there and record your voice and, and I was like, nah,
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't need no robot motherfucking me.
55:14
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to give my voice to AI.
55:18
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't get in that program because I didn't want to give my voice to AI because they but no egg but one bit sound like me.
55:24
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, no motherfucker cuss like me.
55:26
[SPEAKER_01]: It's up to them.
55:27
[SPEAKER_01]: You're Jackson.
55:29
[SPEAKER_01]: That motherfucker can say motherfucker so many different motherfucking ways, but I'm a motherfucker that I hang with that motherfucker nigga on any motherfucking day if he ever motherfucking want to get in the rain.
55:39
[SPEAKER_01]: He would never know how could use motherfucker so many motherfucking tires cuz I'm a motherfucker that been cuz since I was a motherfucker and two got motherfucking damn it
55:49
[SPEAKER_01]: and can no mother fucker took that and put that shit on AI bitch.
55:52
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
55:53
[SPEAKER_01]: And monetize off of that.
55:54
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
55:55
[SPEAKER_01]: No.
55:56
[SPEAKER_01]: Even in acting and stuff like that, I won't sign on paperwork that'll be like, well, we want to reuse it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I need to come in there.
56:01
[SPEAKER_01]: I need to come in there.
56:02
[SPEAKER_01]: I need to come in there.
56:02
[SPEAKER_01]: We record that.
56:03
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
56:04
[SPEAKER_01]: Let me revise that.
56:05
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, I want you to do in that because then you're going to sit me down.
56:08
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
56:09
[SPEAKER_01]: No.
56:16
[SPEAKER_00]: You've said that you want to be Oprah.
56:19
[SPEAKER_00]: You want to be the Oprah Winnie Williams or Sally Jesse Raphael or really late.
56:24
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, or influence what steps are you currently taking to I'm doing it now.
56:29
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah
56:30
[SPEAKER_01]: Curly doing it now.
56:31
[SPEAKER_00]: I fucking see it.
56:32
[SPEAKER_00]: I make it.
56:33
[SPEAKER_00]: What's the, what's the, like what is all said and done, right?
56:36
[SPEAKER_00]: When we look at the, the legacy of T.S.
56:39
[SPEAKER_00]: Madison.
56:41
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, a hundred years from now.
56:42
[SPEAKER_00]: Do what, what are they going to say?
56:43
[SPEAKER_01]: Cheers.
56:44
[SPEAKER_01]: What's T.S.
56:44
[SPEAKER_01]: Madison.
56:45
[SPEAKER_01]: They're niggas going to be making documentaries on how I wrote them all.
56:48
[SPEAKER_01]: They're niggas going to be talking about how I wrote the ceiling.
56:51
[SPEAKER_01]: They're going to talk about how, you know, so because let's, let's really ask the question.
56:55
[SPEAKER_01]: The question is, how many black trans sexy were porn stars?
56:58
[SPEAKER_01]: You know,
57:00
[SPEAKER_01]: Don't walk in this path.
57:02
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm one of one.
57:05
[SPEAKER_01]: How many notorious infamous sex workers that are black, not just transsexual, that are doing or have done?
57:15
[SPEAKER_01]: You list them and I'll bow.
57:19
[SPEAKER_01]: You list them and I'll write queen, okay king?
57:23
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I know the men were doing some of it, but you know, what are the T.S.s?
57:30
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, I'm in a, you know, that's why I won the blogs and shit me posting me.
57:33
[SPEAKER_01]: That's why I'm holds always running down there with it.
57:35
[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, a poster, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey,
57:57
[SPEAKER_01]: I've written one.
57:57
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, talk about the talk about that book.
58:00
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't talk about that book because I went through a lot of things.
58:03
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to tell you which I'm going to talk about in the creator program of how I was so eager to come out of where I was because I wanted to find a way after where I was when you're doing something for so long you want to find a way out.
58:20
[SPEAKER_01]: And I was trying to find a way out of the sex work.
58:23
[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, so I didn't music.
58:25
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
58:26
[SPEAKER_01]: The first rap though.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I wrapped in and void.
58:30
[SPEAKER_01]: No, but I know how to write.
58:32
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
58:33
[SPEAKER_01]: But I can speed it.
58:34
[SPEAKER_01]: So.
58:37
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I did music and I did house stuff and the first wave of people like when you pop in, what will tend to happen is people will try to attach themselves to you and take from you.
58:51
[SPEAKER_01]: And at the time, I didn't have protection.
58:54
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't have a brand attorney.
58:58
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't have a CPA.
59:00
[SPEAKER_01]: I was really getting this shit out the mud.
59:03
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what I was like, my first couple of the first million dollars.
59:07
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't even know I had made a million dollars until I logged in.
59:09
[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, oh shit, I owe the government.
59:13
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god, I owe the government.
59:16
[SPEAKER_01]: They're going to kill me.
59:17
[SPEAKER_01]: They're going to lock me.
59:20
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I'm saying?
59:21
[SPEAKER_01]: Until I longed in, I was like, Oh my God.
59:28
[SPEAKER_01]: Wow.
59:29
[SPEAKER_01]: I've made this much money because it was like this.
59:33
[SPEAKER_01]: Listen, and then it's like, bitch, put your company needs to be paying you.
59:36
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
59:37
[SPEAKER_01]: See, I'm giving this little gym.
59:39
[SPEAKER_01]: Your company needs to be paying money.
59:41
[SPEAKER_01]: You only need to make a certain amount of money.
59:45
[SPEAKER_01]: your company makes the money you know what I'm saying and then you got to incorporate and then you got to just you know what I'm saying you you it's just shit you got to do that then I didn't know thank you thank you thank you I appreciate thank you for being a thank you for being a secure man and having me
1:00:01
[SPEAKER_00]: under absolutely, absolutely.
1:00:02
[SPEAKER_00]: And I appreciate you because I hope that as people watch this episode, they get all of the gems that you brought because I, again, I've been a fan for a while, my wife put me on to you.
1:00:15
[SPEAKER_00]: And when she talks about your business, I come in, I see, right, like how you maneuver, how you're able to, again, get in rooms that most people, train straight, Beyonce, my girlfriend, exactly.
1:00:29
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I'm saying?
1:00:29
[SPEAKER_01]: That's so rough for you.
1:00:30
[SPEAKER_01]: To be able to get in rules that people can't get into.
1:00:33
[SPEAKER_01]: Nicki Minaj is my girlfriend.
1:00:34
[SPEAKER_01]: That's my girlfriend.
1:00:36
[SPEAKER_02]: That's my girlfriend.
1:00:37
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
1:00:37
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
1:00:37
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
1:00:37
[SPEAKER_01]: And so I grew up on this my girlfriend.
1:00:39
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
1:00:40
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
1:00:41
[SPEAKER_01]: Tyler Perry is my homeboy.
1:00:42
[SPEAKER_01]: That's my homeboy.
1:00:43
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
1:00:48
[SPEAKER_01]: Li Day is my friend.
1:00:49
[SPEAKER_01]: That's my friend.
1:00:50
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
1:00:50
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
1:00:51
[SPEAKER_01]: He doesn't understand.
1:00:52
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going on the roller decks.
1:00:53
[SPEAKER_01]: This is the art.
1:00:54
[SPEAKER_01]: This is all about being your other.
1:00:55
[SPEAKER_01]: That's it.
1:00:56
[SPEAKER_01]: That's it.
1:00:56
[SPEAKER_01]: That's my friend.
1:00:57
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
1:00:58
[SPEAKER_01]: I could chip chat with him.
1:00:59
[SPEAKER_01]: That's a little bit like what you doing.
1:01:02
[SPEAKER_01]: What we doing at the public.
1:01:04
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, and I don't ask any of the for anybody exactly.
1:01:07
[SPEAKER_01]: because that's when you start running people off.
1:01:09
[SPEAKER_01]: You start asking your rich friends, even like, okay, I don't need you to give me no money, but give me the game.
1:01:14
[SPEAKER_01]: Because I don't know how to play the game.
1:01:16
[SPEAKER_01]: Now it's something I want you to clear up right here.
1:01:19
[SPEAKER_01]: You said when I heard you, you thought that I was strong.
1:01:21
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
1:01:22
[SPEAKER_01]: How do I smell?
1:01:23
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I can smell you from like, yeah, that's right.
1:01:26
[SPEAKER_01]: That's my perfume.
1:01:27
[SPEAKER_01]: It's called everything by TS Madison.
1:01:30
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm not gonna say like, man, the aura is there.
1:01:33
[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, the aura is there.
1:01:34
[SPEAKER_01]: And I can smell it from right here.
1:01:35
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
1:01:35
[SPEAKER_01]: Except to get, it smells like a woman.
1:01:37
[SPEAKER_01]: It also looks like a woman.
1:01:40
[SPEAKER_01]: Now I don't get fuck how strong I am.
1:01:41
[SPEAKER_01]: The presentation is a woman.
1:01:43
[SPEAKER_01]: So it be not dismay.
1:01:45
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm out with it.
1:01:47
[SPEAKER_01]: I just got a big dick.
1:01:50
[SPEAKER_00]: And oh, no, no, we are closing out the vote.
1:01:53
[SPEAKER_00]: Another awesome episode of this time to forward as guests, the greatest body by this show on the planet.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I need you to hit the link, join T.S.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Madison and her trusted advisors for the five day mentorship, the creators income lot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I promise you it's like,
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[SPEAKER_00]: At the price, like you're doing yourself a disservice if you don't, if you don't show up.
1:02:15
[SPEAKER_00]: But the game that you're going to learn is going to help you for the rest of your life.
1:02:20
[SPEAKER_00]: You are going to be able to help your children, children by creating generational wealth, by learning how that, you know, you can monetize yourself, your authenticity, your expertise.
1:02:32
[SPEAKER_00]: So hit the link in the bio, you know, or hit the link in the description.
1:02:37
[SPEAKER_00]: I am as cash, make sure you visit me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Follow me on all social media platforms at I am as cash.
1:02:43
[SPEAKER_00]: I will see you.
1:02:44
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll make sure you join the abundance community.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Go to theabundancecommunity.com.
1:02:48
[SPEAKER_00]: I will see you next time.
1:02:51
[SPEAKER_00]: Same time, same place in God's will.
1:02:54
[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, bye.
1:02:54
[SPEAKER_00]: Peace.
1:02:55
[SPEAKER_00]: Peace out.