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FEMALE DR. POISONS HUBBY W/ DRANO: 'I was fighting ants' · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
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Speaker 2: Well, I've heard it all, But of course every time
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Speaker 2: I say I've heard it all, something new happens and
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Speaker 2: I realize I have not heard at all. In the
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Speaker 2: last days. A female dermatologist. This is a medical doctor
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Speaker 2: an MD, A female dermatologist who is accused of poisoning
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Speaker 2: her husband. Also a doctor with Draino. Please be original,
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Speaker 2: really Draino comes face to face with her husband in
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Speaker 2: court and here's her defense. I hope you're sitting down.
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Speaker 2: Of course, as I love to say, you may need
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Speaker 2: to lay down for this. One female dermatologist accused of
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Speaker 2: poisoning husband with rain claims she was trying to tackle
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Speaker 2: an ant infestation in their home. That's the defense. She
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Speaker 2: was fighting the ants, it was her the ants, and
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Speaker 2: somehow her husband nearly kills over dead. Half of his
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Speaker 2: stomach has been eaten away. I mean, I see, Grace,
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Speaker 2: this is Crime Stories. Thanks for being with us here
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Speaker 2: at Fox Nation and serious xem one eleven. Well, one
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Speaker 2: of the reasons I feel as light as.
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Speaker 3: A feather.
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Speaker 2: Is because nobody's dead in this case. This woman, doctor
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Speaker 2: Emily U, now indicted on four felony counts related to
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Speaker 2: the poisoning of her husband, claims he was not her
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Speaker 2: intended victim, it was the ants. So what was she
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Speaker 2: planning to pour drena into her husband's morning fruit drink
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Speaker 2: and hope the ants would get in the fridge and
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Speaker 2: drink it, bite their way through the handy wrap and
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Speaker 2: then down a hole, guzzle down a whole, huge, slurpy,
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Speaker 2: gulpy glass of dreno. I guess so. And here's a
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Speaker 2: thing I love about this. Once you say something like that,
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Speaker 2: you're stuck with it. You're stuck with it, and then
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Speaker 2: your lawyer at trial has to somehow explain it away.
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Speaker 2: Just think Alex Mardock. He's my new perfect example. He
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Speaker 2: was stuck with a lie that he was not at
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Speaker 2: the kennels, the dog kennels there at his Mosille hunting lodge,
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Speaker 2: just before his wife and son, Mag and Paul were
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Speaker 2: shot dead. Then unbetows to him, he continues this lie,
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Speaker 2: and then a video emerges, a video his son was
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Speaker 2: making of a dog, a friend's dog in the kennel
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Speaker 2: to send to a lady vet in the area. And
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Speaker 2: at the tail end of that video, who do you
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Speaker 2: hear but the double killer, the father, the husband, Alex
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Speaker 2: Murdog and that's him busted, and that totally ruined his
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Speaker 2: credibility When that idiot got up on the stand in
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Speaker 2: his own defense, that's a huge mistake. I can't believe
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Speaker 2: they let him do that, but they did. Long story short,
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Speaker 2: he was stuck with the lie. Now this doctor, this
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Speaker 2: medical doctor, Emily U is stuck with her big fat lie.
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Speaker 2: Her divorce attorney has now stated she was, in fact
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Speaker 2: using unconventional methods. His words, not mine, because I would
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Speaker 2: kill over laughing, double overlapping of heard that in using
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Speaker 2: conventional methods to deal with an ant problem in the
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Speaker 2: family's home. Yeah, that's unconventional.
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Speaker 4: All right.
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Speaker 2: First of all, I'm happy nobody's dead, and second of all,
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Speaker 2: I'm so happy she's come up with this crazy, wacky theory.
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Speaker 2: Like Scott Peterson. The very day Lacy goes missing, first
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Speaker 2: he says he's playing golf in the rain. Then after
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Speaker 2: he realizes his vehicle and his boat and himself and
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Speaker 2: his tag number are spotted at the marine and he goes, oh, yeah, oh,
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Speaker 2: I don't know why I thought I was playing golf.
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Speaker 2: I was actually fishing on Christmas Eve in the rain. Yes,
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Speaker 2: that's what I was doing. When you're stuck with a lineman,
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Speaker 2: you are stuck with it in court. Now, how do
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Speaker 2: this whole thing unfold? Take a listen to our friends
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Speaker 2: at casey al Chen's lawyer says his client has been
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Speaker 2: sick for months.
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Speaker 5: So he started to have unusual symptoms back in about
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Speaker 5: those bring this year March in April, and went in
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Speaker 5: to get checked by a doctor and found that he
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Speaker 5: had had some physical effects and started to then connect the.
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Speaker 2: Dots, Connect the dots, chemical taste in his mouth, road
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Speaker 2: signs clues, a trail a mile wide. That's what I'm
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Speaker 2: talking about. Listen to our friends at ABC seven.
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Speaker 6: Chen claims she demanded massages and when he refused, quote
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Speaker 6: she stepped on my head until I did and began
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Speaker 6: hiding money from me. The statements also detail the treatment
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Speaker 6: of their eight year old daughter and seven year old son,
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Speaker 6: claiming she'd tell them you are so ugly, you look
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Speaker 6: like a pig, or you are a sissy, and would
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Speaker 6: yell a phrase.
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Speaker 3: At them meaning go die.
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Speaker 6: It describes you using sleep deprivation to punish their kids.
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Speaker 2: Okay, whoa telling your child you look like a pig,
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Speaker 2: You're a sissy?
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Speaker 3: Go die.
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Speaker 2: It's everything I can do to get the twins to
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Speaker 2: go to bed, much less punish them with sleep deprivation
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Speaker 2: and then the so called chemical taste in his mouth.
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Speaker 2: Take a listen to our friend Michelle Gilet KCl nine.
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Speaker 7: Jack Chen alleges longtime verbal, physical, and emotional abuse against
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Speaker 7: his wife, which extends to their two children.
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Speaker 3: Quote.
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Speaker 7: If our children let Emily know that they enjoyed spending
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Speaker 7: time with me or showed affection toward me, then Emily
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Speaker 7: would put them in their room and yell at them
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Speaker 7: until they assured her they would not show affection toward me.
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Speaker 2: Okay, if you think you have problems in your marriage,
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Speaker 2: did you hear.
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Speaker 3: All of that?
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Speaker 2: Then you wake up one morning with a chemical taste
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Speaker 2: in your mouth. I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories.
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Speaker 2: Thank you for being with us here at Fox Nation
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Speaker 2: and Sirius XM one eleven. That just phrase keeps going
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Speaker 2: through my mind. I woke up with a chemical taste
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Speaker 2: in my mouth. You know I've got an incredible panel
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Speaker 2: lined up to break it down and put it back
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Speaker 2: together again for you. But first I want to go
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Speaker 2: to a longtime friend and colleague, an awesome parent, and
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Speaker 2: a man who puts his money where his mouth is.
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Speaker 2: He's not just fighting addiction in our country. He has
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Speaker 2: actually created a mobile addiction unit. He travels all over
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Speaker 2: the country fighting addiction with me. Right now, Doctor William Roney,
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Speaker 2: chief medical examiner out of Michigan, author of American Narcan,
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Speaker 2: Doctor Moroney, is a real honor to have you. But
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Speaker 2: before I go on and on about you, what could cause?
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Speaker 2: What are the many things that could cause a chemical
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Speaker 2: taste in one's mouth?
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Speaker 4: The regular flavors that you would expect are cinnamon, ginger, chocolate, coffee.
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Speaker 4: But chemical tastes mean there's a chemical or there's some
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Speaker 4: kind of metallic substance.
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Speaker 2: Kind of white a minute, doctor morony, Doctor Moroni. Yes, again,
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Speaker 2: I'm just a JD and you're the MD. But I
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Speaker 2: could have said everything you just said. I'm expecting some
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Speaker 2: medical doctor expertise, wisdom coming from.
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Speaker 3: Your mouth right now.
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Speaker 2: I mean, I wouldn't think of a chemical taste as
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Speaker 2: a flavor.
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Speaker 3: Number one.
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Speaker 2: You said cinnamon, you said chocolate, you said a couple
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Speaker 2: of other things.
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Speaker 3: That are yummy. But when I think chemical, I don't
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Speaker 3: think yummy.
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Speaker 2: Is this something like when you take a pill that
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Speaker 2: doctor wants you to take and it makes your mouth
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Speaker 2: tastes back.
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Speaker 4: One of the reasons why we swallow our pills and
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Speaker 4: we don't put them in our mouth over long periods
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Speaker 4: of time is that all chemicals used in medicine taste bitter,
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Speaker 4: they taste metallic, they taste chemical, so they package it
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Speaker 4: up and put it in something to let it go
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Speaker 4: in your stomach quickly. If you have a medicine, it
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Speaker 4: tastes bad. So that usually means if you have a
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Speaker 4: taste in your mouth, you've been given a chemical maybe
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Speaker 4: a poison.
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Speaker 2: With anything in nature, I can't think of any like okay,
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Speaker 2: I say you have Italian or you like you said,
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Speaker 2: have chocolate or cinnamon or vanilla.
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Speaker 3: You don't get a chemical taste in your mouth.
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Speaker 4: No, you get chemical tastes from chemicals. That's exactly where
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Speaker 4: something foreign, something synthesized, you know.
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Speaker 2: To Karen Stark joining me, Karen Stark is renowned psychologists
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Speaker 2: joining us out of Manhattan. You can find her at
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Speaker 2: Karen's Syke And that's Karen with a city. Karen, did
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Speaker 2: you hear what he's saying about what's going on.
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Speaker 3: In their home?
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Speaker 2: Forget the chemical tastes really hard for me to get
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Speaker 2: that out of my mind. This guy wakes up with
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Speaker 2: this horrible taste in his mouth. Chemical. I mean, I
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Speaker 2: can understand if you went to bed without brushing his teeth,
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Speaker 2: or he got up and he might taste like dinner
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Speaker 2: the night before, or if he had coffee that morning.
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Speaker 2: But chemicals, there's nothing good about that. But did you
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Speaker 2: hear the other stuff calling their children pig? You look
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Speaker 2: like a pig. You're a sissy? Go die?
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Speaker 8: You know.
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Speaker 9: It makes you wonder, Nancy? What was he doing at
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Speaker 9: least it? Nicks Melander? Why was he there for so long?
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Speaker 3: We wait?
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Speaker 2: Are you somehow blaming him because the wife is calling
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Speaker 2: the child a pig?
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Speaker 9: No, I'm blaming you.
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Speaker 3: Say why was he there so long? Well?
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Speaker 2: Why does she call them a pig? Can we just
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Speaker 2: start with her? It came out of her mouth, not his?
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Speaker 2: Why is she calling her children a pig?
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Speaker 3: I mean? Have you ever gone to Nascar? Karen Stark?
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Speaker 2: Somehow I think the answer is going to be no,
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Speaker 2: have you ever been a Nascar?
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Speaker 3: Okay?
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Speaker 2: No, all right, all right, maybe Formula one for you,
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Speaker 2: But doctor Murray, you know, and NASCAR where they wave
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Speaker 2: the big flag and the race is off. Yes, okay,
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Speaker 2: So if my husband said go die to one of
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Speaker 2: the children, I mean I made it very clear, Karen,
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Speaker 2: start have you okay, let me try something you can
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Speaker 2: relate to. Karen joining me from your high rise office
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Speaker 2: in Manhattan.
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Speaker 3: Have you ever seen Parent Trap?
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Speaker 8: Oh?
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Speaker 2: Okay, now, I guess you saw the old one with
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Speaker 2: Haley Miles. Have you seen the reboot with Lindsay?
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Speaker 3: My daughter?
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Speaker 2: That's her favorite movie, So I can't extrapolate onto you.
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Speaker 2: She makes me watch it like every other month. The reboot, okay,
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Speaker 2: and the reboot. The husband, you know, the boyfriend. I
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Speaker 2: think it's Dennis Quaid. This is Dennis Quaid and he
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Speaker 2: has a new hot girlfriend and she of course doesn't
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Speaker 2: get along with his twins, who are Lindsay Lohan and
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Speaker 2: Lindsay Lohan. And she says, look, it's either them or me,
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Speaker 2: and he very quickly says them, I think them. So,
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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, you call my child a pig?
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Speaker 2: You're out, bam. So I kind of see what you're saying.
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Speaker 2: Karen's talk. But can we instead of focusing on him,
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Speaker 2: can we talk about her? Why is she call the
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Speaker 2: children pig?
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Speaker 9: Because obviously there's no doubt about it. Nancy, there's something
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Speaker 9: wrong with the mother.
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Speaker 3: Oh dear, what is what's what the experts today? Okay?
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Speaker 2: Doctor Maroney says, you get a chemical taste in your
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Speaker 2: mouth because you've eaten a chemical Okay, all those eight
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Speaker 2: years of education right down the crapper. And then Karen
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Speaker 2: start Yes says she calls her children a pig because
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Speaker 2: there's something wrong with her.
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Speaker 3: Okay. I could tell the Jerry that Karen.
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Speaker 4: She's a narcissist.
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Speaker 3: Nancy, Oh, you love to throw that one out.
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Speaker 2: I've never had a single defendant that you didn't say
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Speaker 2: was a narcissist. And doctor Bethany Marshall always says there's sex,
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Speaker 2: so sex, massive ship. I don't know what she says,
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Speaker 2: bondage and every thing. So explain to me, why would
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Speaker 2: you say that to your child? Go die, you're a pig?
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Speaker 4: Okay.
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Speaker 9: Somebody who had absolutely no conscience would say that to
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Speaker 9: their children, somebody who something is wrong with her. I
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Speaker 9: know you're saying that. That's what anyone could say, but
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Speaker 9: anyone would not be a mother who would speak that
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Speaker 9: way to their children. She doesn't have that kind of access,
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Speaker 9: She doesn't have that kind of sympathy and empathy to
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Speaker 9: be able to understand.
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Speaker 3: There you go.
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Speaker 2: Hold on, I've actually finally, Maroney, I'm writing down a
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Speaker 2: note and it's not because of anything you said, no offense,
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Speaker 2: no sympathy or empathy. Now I'm getting somewhere because Matthew
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Speaker 2: Mangino joining me, high profile lawyer or former district attorney,
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Speaker 2: former parole board member. I don't like that part, and
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Speaker 2: author of the Executioner's Toll Matthewmanngino dot com. Matthew, You've
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Speaker 2: handled so many cases that escalate into something horrible, that
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Speaker 2: start with little things like what you say to each other,
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Speaker 2: how you address your children. Her calling her child a pig,
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Speaker 2: you look like a pig. You're a sissy. Go die
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Speaker 2: to me, that's the beginning, the tiny little nick that
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Speaker 2: turns into a crack that turns into a giant cavern
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Speaker 2: that you can't cross.
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Speaker 8: Well, Nancy, we know that she called the children a
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Speaker 8: pig only because of what her husband has said in
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Speaker 8: a restraining worder. Okay, so we have to rely on
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Speaker 8: her husband. Doctor chen is telling the truth. To be honest,
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Speaker 8: I'm a little skeptical about this whole situation. If he
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Speaker 8: has been the subject of physical abuse, if the children
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Speaker 8: worse object to emotional abuse.
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Speaker 4: Why didn't he seek a restraining order earlier? He had
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Speaker 4: that opportunity.
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Speaker 2: Okay, Matthew man Gino, hold it right there with me.
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Speaker 2: Private investigator at Mona Ka at Mona Kay Investigations joining
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Speaker 2: us out of Omaha Mona. You have handled so many
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Speaker 2: domestic investigations. In my mind, you're hearing Matthew man Gino say,
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Speaker 2: why did he file a tro earlier? Why did he
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Speaker 2: stick around and take it? You could say that about
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Speaker 2: every person that did not file a TRO or leave
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Speaker 2: the marriage on the first incident.
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Speaker 8: Right.
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Speaker 10: Well, I agree, I'm a little suspect of the timing
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Speaker 10: of a lot of it. I worked hundreds of domestic
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Speaker 10: cases where there are false allegations made and not saying
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Speaker 10: that this is but you know, we're taking his word
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Speaker 10: that these you know, this abuse took place, both physical
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Speaker 10: abuse toward himself and his kids. And I'm just wondering,
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Speaker 10: you know, if over those last five to six years
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Speaker 10: when he said that this was going on, especially with
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Speaker 10: his kids, did he document, you know, any of this?
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Speaker 10: Did he record any of it? Audio video.
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Speaker 1: Crime stories with Nancy Grace.
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Speaker 2: For those of you just joining us. I could not
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Speaker 2: be happier right now. A female dermatologist, a medical doctor,
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Speaker 2: caught on video pouring draino into her husband's morning drink
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Speaker 2: now claims he was not her intended victim. She was
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Speaker 2: battling an ant infestation. She was absolutely recorded on video
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Speaker 2: pouring drain cleaner. Can you imagine that what it does
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Speaker 2: to a steal a metal drain, what it would do
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Speaker 2: to that delicate pink lining of your esophagus and your
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Speaker 2: stomach and your throat as it goes into your system.
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Speaker 2: She's actually recorded pouring drain cleaner into her husband, Jack's
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Speaker 2: Hot Lwin tea over three days back in July. The
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Speaker 2: husband noticed something was wrong, I guess so with the tea.
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Speaker 3: So he used a.
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Speaker 2: Hidden camera to film her tampering with his drink, and
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Speaker 2: he got a wide shot of the kitchen and a
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Speaker 2: close up camp shot inside the cabinet. That's the one
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Speaker 2: I like the best because you see this hand to
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Speaker 2: come in getting the draino out, and then the wide
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Speaker 2: shot of the kitchen shows her pouring it into his drink.
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Speaker 2: I guess I'll have to bring the ants on and
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Speaker 2: direct examine them on the stand now that does. I'm
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Speaker 2: me one time I had a dog witness best wit
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Speaker 2: as I've ever had. I don't know if the answer
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Speaker 2: is beloved as a dog. But that said, she's stuck
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Speaker 2: with this. How did this whole thing unfolded? Why take
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Speaker 2: a listen to our good friend Amy Robock at GMA.
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Speaker 11: According to the court documents, Chen says he started noticing
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Speaker 11: a chemical taste in my lemonade in March and April,
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Speaker 11: seeing a doctor who diagnosed him with two stomach ulcers, gastritis,
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Speaker 11: and esophagitis. After installing hidden cameras in the kitchen, he says,
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Speaker 11: I obtained footage of Emily poisoning me on three occasions.
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Speaker 11: The images allegedly show you taking a bottle of Dreno,
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Speaker 11: a chemical drain cleaner, out of a cabinet and pouring
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Speaker 11: it into her husband's drinks on multiple occasions.
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Speaker 2: Wow, that's subtle, pouring draino into lemonade. And you know
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Speaker 2: what it reminded me of? To doctor William Rony, you
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Speaker 2: and I have discussed this case before. This is a
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Speaker 2: case that I actually investigated and attended to trial and
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Speaker 2: state out the defendant.
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Speaker 3: Her name was Lynn Turner, and.
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Speaker 2: Here you got a claim that drayna was poured into lemonade,
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Speaker 2: masking the flavor. Take a listen to our friends of
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Speaker 2: forensic files, cold hearted.
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Speaker 12: It was quite obvious that mister Thompson had died as
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Speaker 12: a consequence of an acute ethleen gleckol intoxication of poisoning.
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Speaker 12: When I found out Randy had died from anti freeze poisoning,
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Speaker 12: I knew when they exumed Glenn's body, when they took
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Speaker 12: those tissues, I knew they were going to find out
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Speaker 12: he died in the exact same causes.
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Speaker 13: And that's precisely what happened. Officials exhumed Glenn Turner's body,
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Speaker 13: retested his tissue samples and confirmed there was a lethal
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Speaker 13: amount of anti freeze in his system.
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Speaker 3: Anti freeze jello? Was it jello or jello shots? It
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Speaker 3: was jello plain jello.
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Speaker 2: Now you know to you doctor William Roney, chief medical
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Speaker 2: examiner joining us out of Michigan, and author doctor Moroni
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Speaker 2: Anafres has a kind of a sweet taste, I understand,
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Speaker 2: and that is why you don't want your car to
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Speaker 2: leak in case a dog may come and taste it
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Speaker 2: and think it's sweet. That was hidden in Jello by
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Speaker 2: Land Turner, one dead husband, one dead boyfriend, lots of insurance,
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Speaker 2: and here we have an allegation that draino was hidden
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Speaker 2: in lemonade. Would that work well?
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Speaker 4: I think the number one thing is Draino is sodium hydroxide.
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Speaker 4: That's a very caustic chemical, and the lemonade is acidic,
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Speaker 4: so it kind of balances, but you're going to get
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Speaker 4: that chemical taste. And the sign that he had gastritis
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Speaker 4: and ulcers completely matches sodium hydroxide exposure because it's caustic,
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Speaker 4: it's going to eat through your stomach, it's going to
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Speaker 4: eat through your esophagus, and you really that was the poison.
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Speaker 4: Because it's acute. In small doses, it'll look like he's
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Speaker 4: got reflux, he's got gourd, but it's eating away parts
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Speaker 4: of the stomach that are going to bleed.
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Speaker 3: Did you just say gird?
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Speaker 8: Gourd?
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Speaker 4: Gastrosophageal reflux disease very common in overweight people that have.
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Speaker 8: Problems.
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Speaker 2: I don't know that this guy's overweight, but I do
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Speaker 2: know he had serious, serious stomach problems. Take a listen
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Speaker 2: to our friends at case Al.
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Speaker 7: Her husband is a doctor as well, and his name
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Speaker 7: is Jack Chen. He has videos from July eleventh, eighteenth,
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Speaker 7: and twenty fifth allegedly showing his wife in their kitchen
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Speaker 7: with a big bottle of Dreno now. According to jack
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Speaker 7: Chen's lawyer, in one of the clips, you can see
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Speaker 7: Chen's wife removing a piece of serrand wrap that was
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Speaker 7: placed over Chen's lemonade drink. She then pours d Reno
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Speaker 7: allegedly into that cup and puts the saran wrap back
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Speaker 7: on top. She tried to kill him, poisoned and Irvine,
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Speaker 7: husband says with dreno doctor Jack Chen has three videos
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Speaker 7: to prove his wife is behind it, according to his lawyer,
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Speaker 7: screenshots which are contained in court documents from cameras hidden
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Speaker 7: in the couple's kitchen in July. They allegedly show the
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Speaker 7: suspect you you, who is also a local physician, pouring
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Speaker 7: drain cleaner into her husband's lemonade.
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Speaker 5: She takes up the bottle, she pours it in, she
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Speaker 5: puts the cap back on, puts it back on with
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Speaker 5: the sin as though nothing else was happening in her day.
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Speaker 5: It is very calm, very methodical.
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Speaker 2: Nathan Percy is with US Crime and Public Safety reporter
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Speaker 2: with Southern California News Group and you can find them
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Speaker 2: on Twitter at nd Percy. Nathan, thank you for being
23:08
Speaker 2: with us. Nathan Percy. I'm really amazed that he lived
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Speaker 2: long enough to actually set up surveillance video because it
23:18
Speaker 2: seems like he had been poisoned over a period of
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Speaker 2: time and was getting sicker and sicker and sicker. Nathan
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Speaker 2: Percy joining us, Southern California News Group. Start at the beginning,
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Speaker 2: tell me everything.
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Speaker 8: Yeah.
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Speaker 14: According to his degeneration court documents, he said he noticed
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Speaker 14: this chemical taste in March or April of twenty twenty two.
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Speaker 14: I think most of us here in Southern California are
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Speaker 14: going with that March date. But at some point between
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Speaker 14: then and the time you put the cameras up, was
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Speaker 14: that doctor's appointment where he was diagnosed with the ulcers.
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Speaker 14: The guest writers and the esophaguitists and those kind of
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Speaker 14: confirmed his suspicions that maybe his wife was putting something
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Speaker 14: into his drink, into his drinks in the morning.
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Speaker 2: Hold on just a second. I want to try to
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Speaker 2: digest what you're saying. Nathan Percy joining me. A crime
24:06
Speaker 2: of public safety reporter site drinking from the fire hydra
24:09
Speaker 2: too much too fast. Hold on, Nathan to doctor William
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Speaker 2: Moroney joining us ulcers, gestritis and esophagitis. Is that what
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Speaker 2: he just said? And what is that?
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Speaker 4: That's exactly what would look like from being given drainal.
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Speaker 4: Draino eats away at the tissues inside of the stomach.
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Speaker 4: It eats away at the tissues in your esophagus, the
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Speaker 4: tube that goes down from your mouth to your stomach,
24:36
Speaker 4: and it looks like maybe there's just too much acid.
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Speaker 4: He has refluxed acid. And the reason why she picked
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Speaker 4: draino is sodium hydroxide cannot be found in text like
24:49
Speaker 4: if you're being poisoned with arsenic or cyanide or rat
24:54
Speaker 4: poison or propylene glycol or formaldehyde, you don't see it's
25:01
Speaker 4: natural chemical element.
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Speaker 2: Okay, wait a minute, you just made a long list
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Speaker 2: of chemicals and substances. Are you saying, for instance, from
25:08
Speaker 2: aaldehyde would show up in tests and draina would not,
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Speaker 2: or that they would both show up.
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Speaker 4: Drana won't show up. It's sodium hydroxide.
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Speaker 2: And I believe that Nathan Percy is a very strong
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Speaker 2: indicator as to why we cannot discount the fact that
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Speaker 2: the suspect of the wife the mother of Jack Chan Emily.
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Speaker 3: She goes by.
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Speaker 2: Emily is also a doctor, so she would very well
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Speaker 2: know exactly what doctor Moroney's talking about. They would run
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Speaker 2: the panels and nothing would show up.
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Speaker 14: Yeah, you'd have to think that she would have some
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Speaker 14: indication or some knowledge of that. She works as a
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Speaker 14: dermatologist out of a Mission Viejo clinic and he works
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Speaker 14: as a radiologist, So you'd have to imagine that they
25:56
Speaker 14: if she doesn't know it directly, they share notes on things,
25:59
Speaker 14: and she would have some knowledge of you know, what
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Speaker 14: would happen if a chemical was added to someone's drink,
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Speaker 14: particularly you know, draino.
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Speaker 3: Do you know where they live, Nathan, Yeah, they.
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Speaker 14: Live in Irvine, which is normally a pretty quiet city,
26:15
Speaker 14: which is surprising because it's you know, about three hundred
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Speaker 14: thousand residents. It's in southern Orange County. There's not a
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Speaker 14: lot that happens down there in the way of violent
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Speaker 14: crime or things like that. There are some domestic things
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Speaker 14: that happen every now and then, and we get a
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Speaker 14: lot of most of our reporting down there, from my experience,
26:34
Speaker 14: has been traffic collisions and things like that.
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Speaker 2: But they live also in a pretty pricing neck of
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Speaker 2: the Woods, Nathan Persy.
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Speaker 14: Yeah, from what we understand, it's multimillion dollar homes in
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Speaker 14: that area. It's in the southern portion of the city.
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Speaker 14: They live kind of in between two universities you see,
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Speaker 14: Irvine and Concordia University. And yeah, it's a nice area
26:59
Speaker 14: down there. There's a big Asian population in Burvine. It's
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Speaker 14: about forty three forty four percent according to the latest
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Speaker 14: twenty twenty one census Quick Facts. And again it's for
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Speaker 14: being such a big city, it's it's usually pretty quiet.
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Speaker 2: These two actually met face to face. The two appeared
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Speaker 2: in court this last Tuesday as part of divorce proceedings
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Speaker 2: in Orange County Superior Court. She had to look him
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Speaker 2: in the eye, and he had to look at her
27:28
Speaker 2: and know his wife, the mother of his children, tried
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Speaker 2: to poison him with draina not just kill him, but
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Speaker 2: kill him in an excruciatingly painful method. A grand jury
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Speaker 2: indicted her on three felony accounts of domestic battery with
27:43
Speaker 2: corporal injury. She faces more than eight years behind bars
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Speaker 2: if she's found guilty. Man, I would not want her
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Speaker 2: around my children. I'm just looking at a picture of
27:53
Speaker 2: her right now. Pouring the DRAINO. Man, she's totally busted.
27:57
Speaker 2: How did we end up here? And will aunt infestation
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Speaker 2: defense actually work? Let me go to you, Karen, start
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Speaker 2: joining me. Psychologists joining us out of Manhattan. Karen, you
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Speaker 2: and I have seen where one poisoning is not enough,
28:17
Speaker 2: where the perp will poison a spouse, then poison a child,
28:26
Speaker 2: and very often, like with Lynn Turner that I just
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Speaker 2: showed you, one poisoning of the husband was not enough,
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Speaker 2: and then she went on to poison her boyfriend. It's
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Speaker 2: almost as if it's an illness. And I don't mean insanity.
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Speaker 2: I mean, for instance, I've always said to anybody, jump
28:45
Speaker 2: in if you disagree, Matthew Menngina, you may.
28:48
Speaker 3: And all the years I.
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Speaker 2: Prosecuted and read literally thousands of case files, I determined
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Speaker 2: that sex offenders and burglars could not be rehabilitated. Something
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Speaker 2: about the thrill of burglarizing something, going in when nobody's around,
29:05
Speaker 2: you just oh and paping Tom's.
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Speaker 3: But I love them.
29:08
Speaker 2: With sex offenders, they cannot be rehabilitated doesn't mean they're insane.
29:14
Speaker 2: It just means it's almost like a compulsion. And I
29:19
Speaker 2: think that about poisoners. I think very often once they
29:23
Speaker 2: get started, there will be another victims, such as a
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Speaker 2: child Karen Nancy.
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Speaker 9: That has to do with that thrill that you're talking
29:33
Speaker 9: about of actually thinking that you have the power to
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Speaker 9: control someone's life. And then the thrill comes actually from
29:42
Speaker 9: watching somebody get sicker and sicker. And here you're talking
29:46
Speaker 9: about a woman who's an abuser to begin with, is
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Speaker 9: that alleged abuser with the way that she treats her
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Speaker 9: children and her husband. And on top of that, there's
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Speaker 9: that excitement. She's a she knows exactly what she's doing,
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Speaker 9: and she knows the effect that it's having on his body,
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Speaker 9: how it's making him sick, and so there's an excitement
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Speaker 9: to realizing that she has the power, the control to
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Speaker 9: be able to take life in this way.
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Speaker 2: Doctor Morine, let me tell you a question for all
30:19
Speaker 2: lusa's thought. I first heard of serial poisoners, believe it
30:23
Speaker 2: or not, in my hometown of Macon, Georgia. My mother,
30:28
Speaker 2: before she worked herself up from a bank teller to
30:30
Speaker 2: be a CFO of a company, she worked at a
30:34
Speaker 2: bank across from the courthouse, and everybody would go eat launch,
30:39
Speaker 2: all the judges, the sheriffs, the prosecutors. The lawyers at
30:43
Speaker 2: this diner called Anne jets Well, and jett ended up
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Speaker 2: being convicted of poisoning two husbands, one mother in law,
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Speaker 2: and one child or two children. And then she was
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Speaker 2: convicted and she went to the state penitentiary for women
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Speaker 2: and became the head of the cafeteria.
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Speaker 3: True story.
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Speaker 2: That's where I have this in my head that once
31:11
Speaker 2: you start with the poisoning, you very often can't stop.
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Speaker 2: So have you ever seen a poisoning victim? Have you
31:18
Speaker 2: done an autopsy on a poisoning victim?
31:21
Speaker 3: Dr?
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Speaker 4: Moreni, Yeah, poisoning victims that go to autopsy are usually
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Speaker 4: bizarre or strange things, rat poisoning, mercury. We've seen a
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Speaker 4: few exposures to you know, pesticides, farmers in the field,
31:36
Speaker 4: things like that. And if it's very low doses, people
31:42
Speaker 4: don't catch on. And like I said before, you know
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Speaker 4: that sodium hydroxide, that's the chemical taste in your mouth.
31:48
Speaker 4: It's caustic, it's live, it's very basic, and it's very corrosive.
31:55
Speaker 4: And if you gave enough sodium hydroxide once, when they
31:59
Speaker 4: cut you open it an autopsy, they would find it
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Speaker 4: it would be a clump of stuff and it'd be identifiable.
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Speaker 4: But if you give it in low doses, you cause
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Speaker 4: holes in the stomach, holes in the esophagus, and people
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Speaker 4: bleed internally.
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Speaker 2: I mean, when you look at that as a doctor,
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Speaker 2: would you know it from poisoning or would you suspect
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Speaker 2: more natural causes?
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Speaker 4: It looks like too much acid. You're having ulcers because
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Speaker 4: you make too much acid and you eat the wrong foods.
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Speaker 4: But if you if somebody poisoned you in a big chunk,
32:31
Speaker 4: a big mondo piece, you'd see that piece would still
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Speaker 4: be there and it would be sent to the layout.
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Speaker 2: Is that a technical medical term? A big quote mondo piece? Okay,
32:43
Speaker 2: I'm writing that down and I will use that against
32:45
Speaker 2: you later. Guys, take a listen to our friends at
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Speaker 2: ABC seven.
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Speaker 6: This is Irene Cruise radiologists Jack Chen says he noticed
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Speaker 6: a chemical taste in his drinks. In March, he set
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Speaker 6: up a hidden camera in their kitchen, capturing video evidence
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Speaker 6: of his wife You you allegedly taking draino from under
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Speaker 6: the sink and pouring it into his lemonade in three
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Speaker 6: separate instances. In July, a doctor diagnosed Chen with two stomachlesers,
33:11
Speaker 6: gastritis and esophagus inflammation.
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Speaker 2: Wow, straight back out to our investigative reporter joining us.
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Speaker 2: So not just once, not just twice, but three times
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Speaker 2: that we know of that we're caught on camera. The
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Speaker 2: Lord only knows how many times she did it before
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Speaker 2: with me, Nathan Percy joining us in Southern California News Group.
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Speaker 2: Three times. Tell me where was the hidden camera placed
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Speaker 2: in the kitchen?
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Speaker 3: Do we know?
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Speaker 2: So?
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Speaker 14: He from the documents that we see, he had two
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Speaker 14: cameras in the kitchen. The main one that allegedly shows
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Speaker 14: her pouring the draino into his drinks is kind of
33:47
Speaker 14: a wide ranging view. It looks like it's maybe in
33:50
Speaker 14: the corner, like by a hallway, that shows the entire kitchen.
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Speaker 14: He had a second one that he also placed underneath
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Speaker 14: the kitchen sink, right next to the Draino bottle. And
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Speaker 14: there's a couple of screenshots that were included in his
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Speaker 14: court documents that showed allegedly, you know, her hand reaching
34:08
Speaker 14: in to grab the Draino bottle from underneath the sink.
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Speaker 14: So the first one is kind of a more wide ranging.
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Speaker 14: Those are the ones that you've kind of seen on
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Speaker 14: the news, and you've seen those camera angles where You've
34:20
Speaker 14: got kind of a view from the far side, and
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Speaker 14: it's pointing towards kind of a back screen door, backsliding
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Speaker 14: door with the sink on the right side and the
34:29
Speaker 14: cabinets and all that on the left. So that was
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Speaker 14: the one that kind of that they're alleging shows the
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Speaker 14: entire act taking place.
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Speaker 1: Prime Stories with Nancy Grace.
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Speaker 2: You know, I've heard a lot of wacky defenses before.
34:59
Speaker 2: I especially loves Jody Arius's defense that Ninja's dressed all
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Speaker 2: in black with their faces mostly hidden, burst into Travis
35:09
Speaker 2: Alexander her sometimes the boyfriend home, killed him, chased her,
35:17
Speaker 2: and somehow she managed to get away.
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Speaker 1: No rape, no robbery, no nothing.
35:23
Speaker 3: I loved that defense.
35:26
Speaker 2: Then photos on her digital camera emerged of Travis Alexander's
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Speaker 2: dead body in the shower, and her leg and foot
35:38
Speaker 2: and slacks were on the digican which she I guess
35:41
Speaker 2: accidentally left behind in the washing machine. Showed her near
35:46
Speaker 2: the dead body. Yep, ouch. Those are all star horrible defenses,
35:53
Speaker 2: and I think aunt infestation is right up there with them.
35:58
Speaker 2: The husband and a radiologist hands over footage of his
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Speaker 2: wife Emily You pouring draino into his lemon drink. At
36:10
Speaker 2: their nearly three million dollar mansion. He handed that over
36:14
Speaker 2: to police. He later filed for divorce. What was he
36:19
Speaker 2: waiting on? And a judge grants him a restraining order
36:23
Speaker 2: against his wife and it covered their two children, ages
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Speaker 2: seven and eight. She will never have a relationship with
36:32
Speaker 2: her two children? How did this whole thing unfold? Nathan
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Speaker 2: Percy joining us in Southern California News Group. You've seen
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Speaker 2: the other one, that's the close up camera according to
36:44
Speaker 2: you from the court documents that you've read, is right
36:48
Speaker 2: there with the draino, and you see a hand reach
36:51
Speaker 2: in and get the draino, and then I guess he
36:54
Speaker 2: is matching that up with the wide range shot of
36:59
Speaker 2: her coming in and out of the kitchen.
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Speaker 3: Question how were the cameras hidden?
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Speaker 14: I know the one in the kitchen sink is off
37:08
Speaker 14: to the side, you know, kind of I would? I
37:11
Speaker 14: would guess, you know, if you were looking from side
37:14
Speaker 14: to side when reaching into the kitchen, think you might
37:16
Speaker 14: be able to see it. But if you're just going
37:20
Speaker 14: in there knowing what you're grabbing, you might not notice it.
37:23
Speaker 14: If you're just going after you know, a bottle underneath
37:26
Speaker 14: the sink.
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Speaker 2: You know what I was just thinking about Mona Kay
37:28
Speaker 2: joining me private investigator out of Omaha. At Mona K
37:32
Speaker 2: the letter K Investigations. Mona I was just about to say, Wow,
37:37
Speaker 2: she must have been crazy to reach down and get
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Speaker 2: the draina and I noticed there's a video camera right there.
37:44
Speaker 2: Not true, Not true, because I was just thinking about
37:48
Speaker 2: when I reach under the sink to get out, for instance,
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Speaker 2: olive oil or whatever I'm getting out from from down
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Speaker 2: under there. I don't look back in the back of
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Speaker 2: the sink. I don't look up at the top of
37:59
Speaker 2: the habit that could be pointed down at the olive
38:03
Speaker 2: oil or really anywhere. Why wound you? So that was
38:09
Speaker 2: pretty ingenious on his part what I was coming to
38:12
Speaker 2: you about, Monique to comment on that. But I love
38:16
Speaker 2: secret cameras and they come and so jackiep it careful.
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Speaker 3: I see you in here drinking your coffee.
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Speaker 2: Okay, but they are so now they're the size of,
38:31
Speaker 2: you know, the tip of a pin. You would never
38:35
Speaker 2: notice them. I mean, you can get them in teddy bears,
38:38
Speaker 2: you can get them in clocks, you can put them
38:40
Speaker 2: on the oven, and no one would ever notice that. Monique,
38:44
Speaker 2: do you use those a lot in your private investigation business.
38:47
Speaker 3: So yes, every once.
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Speaker 10: In a while we use those. But and they are
38:51
Speaker 10: very accessible to anybody. You can get them online surveillance
38:55
Speaker 10: type stores. But you know they come in all different sizes.
39:00
Speaker 10: They can be very well hidden. You can you know,
39:03
Speaker 10: a bop point pin, a ballpoint pen can have a
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Speaker 10: camera in it.
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Speaker 2: I was just gonna say, Monique, you and I discussed
39:10
Speaker 2: the use of a recording ballpoint pin and the Suzanne
39:15
Speaker 2: Morphew murder mystery. Remember she thought her husband, Barry Morphy,
39:20
Speaker 2: was having an affair, so she had put a pin
39:23
Speaker 2: it looked like a ballpoint pin in his truck to
39:28
Speaker 2: try to catch him talking to his girlfriend. So, I mean,
39:32
Speaker 2: it can look really like anything. So there's really no
39:36
Speaker 2: telling how he had the husband had this disguise, and
39:39
Speaker 2: thank God in Heaven he did. Or people like Matthew Mangino,
39:45
Speaker 2: high profile lawyer, would say exactly what he was saying
39:48
Speaker 2: at the beginning of our program. Just because she called
39:51
Speaker 2: her children pig and said go die, that doesn't mean
39:54
Speaker 2: he was poisoned. I guarantee you Mangino would argue a trial.
39:59
Speaker 3: Back me up, man. You know that.
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Speaker 2: These ailments alsos gestritis, selfgitis, could have been caused naturally,
40:07
Speaker 2: because Maroney says sodium hydroxide does not show up in
40:12
Speaker 2: the test.
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Speaker 4: Right, And this is all.
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Speaker 8: Too perfect, Nancy number one, I'd like to know what
40:18
Speaker 8: he told his doctor when he went to see him.
40:20
Speaker 8: He suspected because of this taste, this chemical taste in
40:24
Speaker 8: his mouth, that he was being poisoned as far back
40:28
Speaker 8: as March. Did you tell his doctor that was that
40:30
Speaker 8: something that you know his doctor considered? And with regard
40:35
Speaker 8: to this the cameras.
40:37
Speaker 3: This is just so perfect.
40:39
Speaker 8: I mean, you know you have three different dates during
40:42
Speaker 8: the month of July.
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Speaker 2: You know what, you kill me. When I don't have
40:46
Speaker 2: a video, you go, you can't prove it. When I
40:48
Speaker 2: do have a video, you say it's too perfect you
40:50
Speaker 2: have a video.
40:51
Speaker 8: Well, Nancy, think about this. If you have these videos
40:54
Speaker 8: set up and you're going to review these videos and
40:57
Speaker 8: you see your spouse put raino in your drink on.
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Speaker 4: July eleventh, yeah, you're going to sit there for two
41:04
Speaker 4: more weeks and make sure I.
41:05
Speaker 8: Get some more documented evidence that I'm being poisoned. Or
41:08
Speaker 8: are you going to say.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, if you're not drinking it. I mean I wouldn't
41:12
Speaker 2: eat or drink anything in the whole house. But I
41:14
Speaker 2: would I would be very afraid she might be poisoning
41:18
Speaker 2: the children. So let's just follow your rationale through to
41:22
Speaker 2: its logical conclusion. You're saying, because he waited to catch
41:27
Speaker 2: on video two more times air goo, Therefore.
41:31
Speaker 8: What I'm not sure what's in that bottle or what
41:34
Speaker 8: she's putting in the drink. I mean, she's so casual
41:37
Speaker 8: about it. She pulls this bottle out, walks over to
41:40
Speaker 8: the table, puts this substance in his hot lemonade, and
41:45
Speaker 8: then puts it away. I mean, if I was trying
41:47
Speaker 8: to poison somebody, I certainly try to be a little
41:50
Speaker 8: more discreet about it. Maybe hide it, you know, make
41:52
Speaker 8: sure no one sees me.
41:54
Speaker 2: So the killer, the sneaky killer, is not sneaky enough
41:58
Speaker 2: from Matthew Man, Gina, good luck with that in front
42:01
Speaker 2: of a jury. Manjeno, is that maroney jumping in?
42:04
Speaker 4: Nobody recycles and reuses drain o bottles. There's nothing. You
42:11
Speaker 4: have to find a place to put the drain on,
42:12
Speaker 4: so it doesn't.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe she was throwing the sugar in there.
42:16
Speaker 2: Gen No, thank you, maroone, thank you for throwing me
42:19
Speaker 2: that bad right there.
42:21
Speaker 3: Take a listen to our cut five. This is Amy
42:24
Speaker 3: Roadbock at GMA, Chen's attorney speaking with GMA.
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Speaker 15: This is an incredibly intimate way to commit a murder.
42:32
Speaker 15: She had to know what his routine was, what his
42:35
Speaker 15: preferences were. A methodical, intimate, horrific way to murder something.
42:43
Speaker 15: This is mind boggling to me.
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Speaker 11: Chen has also filed for divorce and requested full custody
42:48
Speaker 11: of the couple's two children, alleging Emily's parenting, if you
42:52
Speaker 11: could call it, that revolves around yelling, insulting, verbally abusing, hitting, pushing, pulling,
42:58
Speaker 11: and being emotionally abusive.
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Speaker 2: So back to you, Nathan Percy joining us in Southern
43:03
Speaker 2: California Newsgroup. You say, there's the wide range video that
43:08
Speaker 2: Matthew Mangino, you know he's grasping at straws. You've got
43:12
Speaker 2: the wide range of video of her coming in and
43:14
Speaker 2: out of the kitchen. You have the close range video
43:18
Speaker 2: that's I guess in the cabinet where you see the
43:20
Speaker 2: hand come in and get the DRAINO. Do I understand,
43:23
Speaker 2: Nathan Percy that she actually had his lemonade prepared with
43:26
Speaker 2: saran wrap over it. It's like she laid it all
43:28
Speaker 2: out the night before or.
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Speaker 14: Something that I'm not aware of. Unfortunately, I'm not sure
43:33
Speaker 14: whether he had prepared it and at one point.
43:36
Speaker 3: Started hold on Karen start jump In.
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Speaker 9: According to what I read, he prepared the lemonade. He
43:43
Speaker 9: put the turane wrap on it, and then she took
43:46
Speaker 9: it off, added the draino. And by the way, I
43:50
Speaker 9: don't know what was so strange about the fact that
43:53
Speaker 9: she didn't hide it. She didn't know there was any
43:55
Speaker 9: camera on her, so of course she was doing it
43:58
Speaker 9: and putting it away again. And then what's interesting, Nancy,
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Speaker 9: is that she stayed there while he sat down. He
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Speaker 9: came into the kitchen, sat down prepared to drink it.
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Speaker 9: So again, there's no feeling there whatsoever about well, you know,
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Speaker 9: maybe I'm causing harm or I'm doing something terrible and
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Speaker 9: I'm watching him do it. No, she's happy to be
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Speaker 9: watching him drink that Drina.
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Speaker 3: She stayed there to watch him drink. Is that what
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Speaker 3: you just said?
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Speaker 9: Well, she was there while he was sitting down and.
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Speaker 2: Drinking to make sure heye drank it, Monique private investigator
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Speaker 2: jump In.
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Speaker 10: I just have a thought, how many people in their
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Speaker 10: own home, with their own family members cover their drinks
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Speaker 10: with saran wrap and walk away just to come back
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Speaker 10: and take a drink. I mean, wouldn't that alert her
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Speaker 10: to maybe some suspicion on his part?
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Speaker 2: Guys, Monique, that's an excellent point. No, I don't put
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Speaker 2: Serena wrap over my drink, But you and Mangino trying
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Speaker 2: to defend her and put blame on the husband. He's
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Speaker 2: the one that has his stomach eaten up with acid.
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Speaker 10: Right, I'm just saying that, wouldn't she maybe be suspicious.
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Speaker 8: That he was on to her?
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Speaker 4: Also?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I say that.
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Speaker 2: I guess she was so hal bent on killing him
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Speaker 2: that she didn't or maybe that was his routine. Maybybe
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Speaker 2: he made his drink and covered it up.
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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he.
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Speaker 9: Made the lemonade. He prepared it the night before is
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Speaker 9: what I read. Anyway, and he put the ran wrap
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Speaker 9: over it.
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Speaker 2: Now, guys, if you think you've heard it all, listened
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Speaker 2: to our cut toil from KCl.
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Speaker 7: When I was looking through the court papers. What it
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Speaker 7: said was that at one point she called her husband
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Speaker 7: and asked if he would bail her out, but he refused.
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Speaker 7: I also learned today that jack Chen's lawyer went to
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Speaker 7: the jail when uu was still in jail and presented
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Speaker 7: her with this restraining order. She seemed a bit confused
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Speaker 7: about all of it, and he said to her, while
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Speaker 7: you've been poisoning your husband, that's why we're getting a
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Speaker 7: restraining order.
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Speaker 2: She actually called the husband she's been poisoning on video
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Speaker 2: and asked him to pay the bail to bond her
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Speaker 2: out of jail. Is that right, Nathan personal.
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Speaker 3: Yes, that is.
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Speaker 14: That is also included in his declaration that he wrote
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Speaker 14: in petitioning for the temporary restraining order, which according to
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Speaker 14: according to the court's website, was filed on August fifth,
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Speaker 14: which was one day after she was arrested by Irvine
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Speaker 14: police on August fourth.
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Speaker 16: Listen to our friends at ABC seven Southern California dermatologist you.
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Speaker 16: Emily Hugh has been charged with three felony counts of
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Speaker 16: poisoning and one count of domestic battery, but her lawyer
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Speaker 16: claims the woman's husband set her up. He claims his
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Speaker 16: client was trying to kill ants in the kitchen.
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Speaker 1: She does pour the dreno in the cup three times
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Speaker 1: to kill the ants.
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Speaker 10: That's not dispute it. She absolutely poured the drno in the.
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Speaker 16: Cup In Chen's divorce filings, It states he was diagnosed
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Speaker 16: with two stomach ulcers, gastritis, and a saphagitis. Chen's attorney
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Speaker 16: says he believes you didn't want to kill her husband,
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Speaker 16: but make him suffer. If convicted, she could be sentenced
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Speaker 16: to eight years in prison. Her husband has filed for
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Speaker 16: divorce and is fighting for a full custody of their children.
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Speaker 2: Well, there you go, a medical doctor taking advantage of
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Speaker 2: her husband's daily ritual of lemon tea to torment him
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Speaker 2: systematically poisoning that tea with adrena like substance. Can you imagine,
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Speaker 2: and her being a doctor, she knew exactly what she
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Speaker 2: was doing, the pain and suffering she inflicted on him. Gosh,
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Speaker 2: I wouldn't let her near those children with a ten
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Speaker 2: foot pole. Will wait to see if the ant infestation
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Speaker 2: defense actually work. Nancy Grace signing off, goodbye friend,