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#672 - 19 Keys Breaks Down AI, Anti-Zionism, Elon Musk, Drake, IRL Streaming, Starlink, Stock Market & More · The Bootleg Kev Podcast

• 0:03
  Speaker 1: Bulet Cap Podcast. We are in the building man with
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  Speaker 1: my guy nineteen keys. Man.
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  Speaker 2: It feels good to be better.
• 0:10
  Speaker 1: A very good day in La. By the way, Sorry,
• 0:12
  Speaker 1: you gotta do the white guy your white dude pound.
• 0:16
  Speaker 1: But yoh, thank you for coming back, brother, and thank
• 0:18
  Speaker 1: you for having me. How's everything been? Everything is great?
• 0:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean in despite of the world, you know,
• 0:23
  Speaker 3: shifting into a new world order.
• 0:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah. It's funny because I think the last time you
• 0:27
  Speaker 1: were here, it might have been like right around the
• 0:29
  Speaker 1: time Trump was getting in, I believe.
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  Speaker 3: So I think it was like right beforehand, and we
• 0:35
  Speaker 3: was kind of just giving an analysis on everything.
• 0:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and like you know, I think like back then
• 0:40
  Speaker 1: there was like a very and I think like hindsight's
• 0:44
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty. And this is what I try to tell
• 0:45
  Speaker 1: people all the time, Like I think at that point
• 0:48
  Speaker 1: in time, like we had just watched uh genocide of
• 0:53
  Speaker 1: people happen on the watch of the left. Yeah, and
• 0:57
  Speaker 1: we watched like a democratic national convention happen without any
• 1:00
  Speaker 1: or to mention of like or really any sort of
• 1:03
  Speaker 1: empathy for what's going on over there. And you know,
• 1:06
  Speaker 1: we kind of saw Commala kind of tiptone around that
• 1:08
  Speaker 1: subject in a real serious way, and it kind of
• 1:10
  Speaker 1: felt like left or right were kind of fucked. But
• 1:15
  Speaker 1: now that we're, you know, a year and some change
• 1:18
  Speaker 1: into Trump's presidency, man, like you said, bro, it feels
• 1:24
  Speaker 1: like a year and a half is really this is
• 1:28
  Speaker 1: like the type of transit. I feel like this is
• 1:31
  Speaker 1: kind of like we're on the other side of COVID,
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  Speaker 1: but in a different way, like where the world that
• 1:34
  Speaker 1: just never be the same.
• 1:36
  Speaker 3: We've been through a great transition already. It may not
• 1:39
  Speaker 3: even realize it. Just the way that we experience time
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  Speaker 3: has changed in the profound way. Like over just think
• 1:45
  Speaker 3: about the week of Carmelo Anthony Verdict. Then you got
• 1:51
  Speaker 3: the FIFA World Cup, Then you got the NBA Championships
• 1:54
  Speaker 3: with the Knicks winning, right, and then you have the
• 1:58
  Speaker 3: SpaceX ipo, we have our first trillionaire, right, Like, there's
• 2:03
  Speaker 3: all of these things that converge that usually would be
• 2:06
  Speaker 3: one long news cycle, but instead these are just a
• 2:09
  Speaker 3: day of conversation, right and so like we at this
• 2:13
  Speaker 3: point now where they can literally get full disclosure on
• 2:15
  Speaker 3: aliens and we'll go about our day the next day.
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  Speaker 1: Nothing sticks anymore. Nothing.
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  Speaker 3: That's why attention is such a such a raw asset
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  Speaker 3: that everybody wants because the moment you have it and
• 2:27
  Speaker 3: while you're holding its valuable, but then it dissipates and
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  Speaker 3: it disappears, and you only got to find out amount
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  Speaker 3: every single day. And that's why we have our first trillionaire.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting because, like you said, like I think
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  Speaker 1: that that change has benefited some of the elites in
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  Speaker 1: the world because so much shit, the news cycle changes
• 2:47
  Speaker 1: so fast. It's almost like we were so drummed up
• 2:51
  Speaker 1: about the Epstein shit and then they wouldn't kidnap a
• 2:55
  Speaker 1: Dua Yeah, and then we were on that for a
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  Speaker 1: few days. Yeah, and then the Maduro shit. It was
• 2:59
  Speaker 1: like the thing happens then the next and it's like, bro,
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  Speaker 1: the fact that we still like, we kidnapped the president
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  Speaker 1: of a foreign country and he's currently incarcerated in New
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  Speaker 1: York and I don't think anybody in mainstream media has
• 3:12
  Speaker 1: talked about it. What's the last time we got an
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  Speaker 1: update on his shit? None? But it's because who has
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  Speaker 1: time to process?
• 3:19
  Speaker 2: Well.
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  Speaker 3: We currently have a world of reaction instead of reflection.
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  Speaker 3: Everybody reacts to videos, reacts to news. We don't reflect
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  Speaker 3: on anything. There's no process no real critical analysis. And
• 3:31
  Speaker 3: then from there that means that all our conversations are shallow. Right,
• 3:36
  Speaker 3: when we have a society that can't properly process anything,
• 3:40
  Speaker 3: they're much easier to control because you're keeping them all
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  Speaker 3: at this shallow point to where nothing matters to them.
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  Speaker 3: There's no morals, right because we went through a deep
• 3:51
  Speaker 3: phase of demoralization, and therefore there's no rebellion that's going
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  Speaker 3: to occur as well, Right, Like what would make American
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  Speaker 3: people re bail against empire? Like what could they do
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  Speaker 3: at this point?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's almost like we're kind of with open arms,
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  Speaker 1: like ushering in our replacement. It's almost like when you
• 4:15
  Speaker 1: watch like the Hunger Games, which is obviously you know,
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  Speaker 1: I think a lot I think a lot of the
• 4:18
  Speaker 1: Hollywood shit is is just preconditioning us for what's going
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  Speaker 1: to be inevitable. But it's like, how does society get
• 4:25
  Speaker 1: to a point like that. It's like they damn, you
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  Speaker 1: got it, they let it happen.
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  Speaker 2: Well, America is the experiment that gets to that point.
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  Speaker 3: If you look at Europe, right, Europe is a capitalist,
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  Speaker 3: but they don't have any growth, they don't have any
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  Speaker 3: economic growth. They watching and looking at America to see
• 4:39
  Speaker 3: what happens. Right, America is such a greedy place, and
• 4:43
  Speaker 3: we in lay stage capitalism where everything is a product.
• 4:46
  Speaker 3: Your attention is a product, your passion is a product,
• 4:48
  Speaker 3: your time is a product, your mind. Everything is being monetized, right,
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  Speaker 3: and so it's now money of a meaning. And now
• 4:56
  Speaker 3: people are getting money, but then they have lives that
• 4:58
  Speaker 3: are meaningless. They don't know what they're doing it for.
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  Speaker 3: While they're alive, what matters anymore?
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  Speaker 1: Right?
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  Speaker 2: And I think that that's.
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  Speaker 3: Where we at to this point where as long as
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  Speaker 3: there's a fiduciary duty that a person that is already
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  Speaker 3: ahead of a trillion dollar company has to then grow
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  Speaker 3: and scale past a trillion versus sustained right growth or
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  Speaker 3: sustain you know, profits on where it already is. It's
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  Speaker 3: always going to push profit over people. America is unsustainable
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  Speaker 3: in its current trajectory because let's say, if space gets
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  Speaker 3: to ten trillion, how many people got to die for
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  Speaker 3: that to happen. Like, let's think about this. Elon Muss
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  Speaker 3: is a trillionaire, right, which no one person should ever
• 5:37
  Speaker 3: have become a trillionaire. That means capitalist capitalism is past
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  Speaker 3: anything that its initial stages ever thought it was going
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  Speaker 3: to be even Rockefeller. I'm sure never thought he'd probably
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  Speaker 3: see a trillionaire because that number shouldn't even exist. That
• 5:50
  Speaker 3: means that he is hoarding most of the world's wealth, right.
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  Speaker 3: It was a position that came out, a statement that
• 5:56
  Speaker 3: came out and said that Jeff Bezo's wealth is closer
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  Speaker 3: to yeah, I mean, the average citizen than it is
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  Speaker 3: to Elon Musk, because at a trillion.
• 6:04
  Speaker 1: Dollars, that's crazy, it's ridiculous.
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  Speaker 3: But then let's ask this question, if all of Elon
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  Speaker 3: musk inventions and his companies that he had bought and
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  Speaker 3: now he currently owned, if they disappeared.
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  Speaker 1: How would it affect your life? Wouldn't it wouldn't.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, the man becomes a trillionaire and none of our
• 6:21
  Speaker 3: lives have become better because of it. You might like
• 6:24
  Speaker 3: a nice little Tesla car, but you can go get
• 6:30
  Speaker 3: some other card.
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  Speaker 2: He did help pioneered the electric car industry, right.
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  Speaker 1: But China's fucking miles right ahead of us in that way.
• 6:38
  Speaker 3: Now, and gas is still high as hill understand me,
• 6:41
  Speaker 3: like we have not. The average person can't say they
• 6:44
  Speaker 3: have had a positive impact on their lives. And if
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  Speaker 3: Elon Musk did not exist. This trillionaire did not exist.
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  Speaker 3: My life will be exactly the same, maybe better.
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  Speaker 1: I think the same thing can go when it comes
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  Speaker 1: to these data centers and these AI companies, like a
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  Speaker 1: guy like Kevin O'Leary, And that's suation that just happened
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  Speaker 1: in Utah, where you're like, like, if AI went away tomorrow,
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  Speaker 1: none of our lives would really take a hit because
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  Speaker 1: in terms of like normal Americans, most of us are
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  Speaker 1: using AI for like just a new version of Google
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  Speaker 1: or dumb meme.
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  Speaker 3: Shit, yeah no, right now, the AI is just making
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  Speaker 3: the rich richer.
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  Speaker 1: And it's like a tool to just increase wealth.
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  Speaker 3: Because if you already had these systems and you know
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  Speaker 3: how they work, and you got SOPs for these systems,
• 7:31
  Speaker 3: and then you're looking at what they call a token ROI, right,
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  Speaker 3: like how do you get return of investment from every
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  Speaker 3: token that you're spending for every AI task that you
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  Speaker 3: have in doing something?
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  Speaker 1: Are you saving time?
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  Speaker 2: Are you saving money?
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  Speaker 1: Et cetera.
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  Speaker 3: So if you start to take everything and you detail
• 7:50
  Speaker 3: it out and then you can say, okay, well this
• 7:52
  Speaker 3: is a system. Let's say we're talking about podcastsing and editing.
• 7:55
  Speaker 3: Somebody has to stitch together clips, somebody has to review them, right,
• 7:58
  Speaker 3: and then somebody has to cut up and then contextually
• 8:02
  Speaker 3: send you over those clips, and then that.
• 8:03
  Speaker 1: Has to be posted.
• 8:05
  Speaker 3: We're talking about time, you talking about energy, right, you're
• 8:07
  Speaker 3: talking about creativity. Well, if you can automate parts of
• 8:11
  Speaker 3: those tasks, how much money are you saving? How much
• 8:13
  Speaker 3: time are you saving? Then with that time save, what
• 8:16
  Speaker 3: are you doing with that gap? Now, let's say if
• 8:18
  Speaker 3: you automate that with a press of a button. Now
• 8:20
  Speaker 3: you can do that across one hundred pages. Right now,
• 8:24
  Speaker 3: Let's say that is still only costing you one hundred
• 8:26
  Speaker 3: to two hundred dollars a month, right, but it's allowing
• 8:29
  Speaker 3: you to make an additional twenty to two hundred.
• 8:32
  Speaker 2: Thousand dollars a month.
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  Speaker 3: Right now, you can justify that spend. But the only
• 8:36
  Speaker 3: people that's truly doing that, it's a very small percentage
• 8:38
  Speaker 3: of people on try it.
• 8:39
  Speaker 1: It's very big minority that's to do that.
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  Speaker 3: Most people don't have what they call AI fluency, like
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  Speaker 3: the way that you're actually using AI, the way that
• 8:48
  Speaker 3: you're prompting it, the way that you're checking it, the
• 8:50
  Speaker 3: way that you're reviewing it. And then most people are
• 8:53
  Speaker 3: not checking to see if they're getting the most out
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  Speaker 3: of it, right, So we're not trying when we look
• 8:58
  Speaker 3: at what AI is, I don't think that it shouldn't exist,
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  Speaker 3: right because I think that the same thing with like
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  Speaker 3: social media. It gives us the opportunity to level the
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  Speaker 3: playing field if it was used by us correctly, right.
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  Speaker 3: But if we're not owning, controlling mastering the models, AI
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  Speaker 3: literacy becomes a new financial literacy, right. And with financial
• 9:19
  Speaker 3: literacy and a lack of financial literacy, we see the
• 9:21
  Speaker 3: economic devastation that it hasn't in our communities every single day, right,
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  Speaker 3: Like the health and wellness are intrinsically connected. It's a
• 9:30
  Speaker 3: thing called poverty and douce stress syndrome, which is basically
• 9:33
  Speaker 3: pissed right, where when you don't have money and let's
• 9:37
  Speaker 3: say you get sick. Now, when you get sick, that's
• 9:39
  Speaker 3: going to stress you out more because you can't pay
• 9:41
  Speaker 3: the health bill, right, and so this then becomes this cycle.
• 9:44
  Speaker 1: It's the same thing with education.
• 9:46
  Speaker 3: And most of the time you get a low education,
• 9:47
  Speaker 3: it's because you're an environment that serves you education that
• 9:50
  Speaker 3: you don't even have an option to get a better one.
• 9:53
  Speaker 3: You can't afford the tutor, But with the AI, you
• 9:56
  Speaker 3: can start putting these things in place to start creating
• 9:59
  Speaker 3: an opera unity for people that normally would not be
• 10:02
  Speaker 3: able to afford a tutor based on their cognitive type
• 10:04
  Speaker 3: to be able to learn. Now, but does it really
• 10:07
  Speaker 3: matter if the whole world is going to change and
• 10:10
  Speaker 3: they're trying to figure out every single day how to
• 10:12
  Speaker 3: replace job, how to replace influencers, how to replace rappers
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  Speaker 3: with AI? What is actually left after you get this
• 10:20
  Speaker 3: education and now you say I'm smarter because of it,
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  Speaker 3: But the world has changed so much that it doesn't
• 10:25
  Speaker 3: even matter.
• 10:25
  Speaker 1: It doesn't have a place for you in it anymore, because.
• 10:27
  Speaker 2: You're preparing for a world that don't exist no more.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's interesting. I saw you say don't ever
• 12:03
  Speaker 1: use AI to replace your gifts exactly, and I think that,
• 12:07
  Speaker 1: like you said, in the same way financial literatary literacy,
• 12:11
  Speaker 1: it's I think purposefully not taught in public schools, to
• 12:14
  Speaker 1: be honest, which is I think interesting, But like it
• 12:17
  Speaker 1: is kind of like as a it's a world that's inevitable,
• 12:22
  Speaker 1: so you might as well learn it. You might as
• 12:25
  Speaker 1: well learn how to use claude. You might as well
• 12:27
  Speaker 1: learn how to because there's nothing like it's just it's
• 12:31
  Speaker 1: like how the Internet was, you know, thirty years ago.
• 12:33
  Speaker 1: It's like get on board or you know, get involved.
• 12:37
  Speaker 3: You know, it's the same thing with any particular process,
• 12:40
  Speaker 3: Like when you kind of the people that are against
• 12:42
  Speaker 3: a a lot of them don't understand it enough and
• 12:44
  Speaker 3: haven't done enough research to be effectively against it, right,
• 12:49
  Speaker 3: Because if you are illiterate in something, it's your ignorance, right,
• 12:52
  Speaker 3: that is your position.
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  Speaker 2: But when you do it from a place that you knowledgeable,
• 12:56
  Speaker 2: now you can say, well, I.
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  Speaker 3: Can participate in regulating it. I can participate in teaching
• 13:01
  Speaker 3: other people how to master it so that it doesn't
• 13:03
  Speaker 3: master them. Right, because the machines will control you if
• 13:06
  Speaker 3: you don't control them.
• 13:08
  Speaker 1: It's inevitable, and it's like almost like made for just
• 13:13
  Speaker 1: like a lot of things, like you said with the
• 13:16
  Speaker 1: with the pists syndrome, it's like if you are somebody
• 13:19
  Speaker 1: who could barely survive, you're taking public transit to work,
• 13:23
  Speaker 1: you're working two jobs. Yeah, you're worried about getting your
• 13:26
  Speaker 1: kids to school. You're worried about if they're at school
• 13:28
  Speaker 1: while you're at work.
• 13:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're You're not worried about learning this shit, not
• 13:33
  Speaker 2: at all, And that's by design. You only ahead of
• 13:35
  Speaker 2: time too, you don't have the time to So it's
• 13:37
  Speaker 2: like those are the people.
• 13:38
  Speaker 1: And I do think that there's been.
• 13:39
  Speaker 3: There or you have not got to a point where
• 13:42
  Speaker 3: you're calm enough to manage your time right for those things,
• 13:46
  Speaker 3: because poverty also makes you blind to the future, because
• 13:50
  Speaker 3: all you can focus on is what's.
• 13:51
  Speaker 1: In front of you. Yeah, how do I get right
• 13:52
  Speaker 1: by next week? Exactly?
• 13:53
  Speaker 3: So like you in such a survival state that you
• 13:57
  Speaker 3: know poverty, I'll look at it as an illness, right,
• 14:00
  Speaker 3: Like I think that money can help remove the blockades
• 14:04
  Speaker 3: towards your happiness. I don't think it directly buys it,
• 14:06
  Speaker 3: but I know poverty never buys it.
• 14:08
  Speaker 1: Right, And would you say, because obviously there's certain economic
• 14:12
  Speaker 1: things that people can't immediately control, but do you think
• 14:15
  Speaker 1: that's more of also an outlook that you can control,
• 14:20
  Speaker 1: Like maybe you aren't in the most financially stood place,
• 14:24
  Speaker 1: but that that shouldn't reflect maybe your attitude.
• 14:29
  Speaker 2: Oh no, it definitely shouldn't.
• 14:31
  Speaker 1: You don't there was this something you can't control. There
• 14:34
  Speaker 1: was this interview with Oprah and.
• 14:39
  Speaker 3: It was one of these authors, this author I think
• 14:41
  Speaker 3: this might be the one who did Harry Potter or something,
• 14:44
  Speaker 3: but they made like a billion dollars problem. She said
• 14:46
  Speaker 3: over from Oprah and she was like, I still have
• 14:49
  Speaker 3: this fear that one day I lose it all and
• 14:51
  Speaker 3: go broke.
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: And she said do you do you get that as well?
• 14:53
  Speaker 3: And Oprah looked at her and say, no, I'll always
• 14:56
  Speaker 3: be rich, I'll never go broke.
• 14:58
  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 3: And it's a shift where you got two different people, right,
• 15:02
  Speaker 3: one that don't feel completely like they deserve it, Like
• 15:06
  Speaker 3: your identity hasn't shifted to what you deserve and what
• 15:09
  Speaker 3: you have.
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: And it gets to a.
• 15:11
  Speaker 3: Point where you get to some money and you say
• 15:13
  Speaker 3: that no, I'm always going to be rich.
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: You make it your normal, right.
• 15:17
  Speaker 3: And the people that become rich is because they also
• 15:20
  Speaker 3: think that they deserve it. Think that you become delusion
• 15:23
  Speaker 3: on your mind starts to align your reality to your
• 15:26
  Speaker 3: own beliefs.
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 15:27
  Speaker 3: You talk to people like you deserve it, and those
• 15:29
  Speaker 3: people are infected with your belief and they think you
• 15:31
  Speaker 3: deserve it as well. You start to mimic the things
• 15:34
  Speaker 3: that rich people do, and you say that this is
• 15:36
  Speaker 3: my identity. So it doesn't matter how poor you are.
• 15:38
  Speaker 3: It really matters if you have a poor imagination and
• 15:41
  Speaker 3: a sense of self worth, right, because if you think
• 15:44
  Speaker 3: that you deserve to be poor, if you think that
• 15:46
  Speaker 3: you're supposed to stay in this survival state, right, then.
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: You will always stay there.
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: Now, you feel like a survivor with money, right, versus
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: I feel like I'm a rich man. But what does
• 15:56
  Speaker 3: that mean to you? Because if you connect money to
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: negative things right now, you're gonna make sure that you
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: don't have money because money is associated with something that
• 16:05
  Speaker 3: you don't think is good. Right, And so you actually
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: have to create your own self definitions and you have
• 16:11
  Speaker 3: to change your identity at every level of life, right,
• 16:14
  Speaker 3: Otherwise you're going to get what you think you deserve
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: subconsciously and you're going to get rid of it. You
• 16:20
  Speaker 3: with somebody who you think is better than you, you're
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: gonna be insecure and you're gonna end up fulfilling a
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: self fulfilling prophecy. And now you're like, man, I knew
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: she wasn't nothing, knew he wasn't nothing. No, that's because
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: you was thinking that way that you produce that right, Like,
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: whatever you get, you have to feel you deserve, and
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: I think that you know it goes beyond just like attitude.
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: But when we start talking about save yourself, you know
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: it's the way the where you can participate in redistributing
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: wealth towards you before the system is ever going to
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: do it, because we don't live in a socialist economy,
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: and maybe there could be a political movement that changes
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: that in the future, but the current reality that we
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: have is let me see things for as they are,
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: and let me see how I exist in this system
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: and what can I do to navigate to put myself
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: in position. Right, you have to be completely optimistic and
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: delusion or about who you are right and where you're going,
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: and you have to believe that every single day. It's
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: like being a character in the game, right, Like, do
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: I want to dress myself in poverty every single day?
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: Or do I want to dress myself as somebody from
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: the way I talk, the way I walk, the way
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: I act. And I ain't even talking about like somebody,
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: just like code switching and shit like that. No, it's
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: like when I'm walking in the room, I got a
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: level of confidence that even if I'm talking to a billionaire,
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: my perspective is value because this is something that he
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: can't by, right, So what is my value in that situation?
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: It's being me, right.
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: And then when you start using your imagination, never use
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: it to imagine something negative. So the most of the
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: reasons that we have a negative outlook on even technology
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: itself is because most people ain't grow up on Star Trek,
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: you understand me. Most people grow up on Terminator and
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: they grew up on matrix movies that give you a
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: negative outlook of the future. So right now, the technology
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: purpose it is and it goes to twofold, like you're
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: incentivized to make these horror movies because people want to watch.
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: The more people are.
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: Not watching, just tech optimistic views.
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: Of the future.
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: Everything is like the worst case scenario.
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like we grow poor. So I watched Star Trek
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: a lot. It's one of the only channels I had.
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: I was watching Star Trek Voyager and I realized, like,
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: on there they was creating just like three D food.
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: Right when I'm young, I thought it was the coolest
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: shit in the world. It looked like a microwave and
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: they can press anything they want and it'll just make it.
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: And when you pour and you hungry, Like, that's the
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: best invention on the planet. Now they're talking about creating
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: three D meat and food, and I think it's the
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: worst thing, right, And so there's something that happens along
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: that journey to where you think about the people who
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: own it. You think about Masanto, you think about greedy billionaires.
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: You no longer in throw out with technology like as
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: this thing that enhances life, right, because the reality of
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: it is, there are people starving every single day. So
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: when you see an advention, you would be like, oh,
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: that's gonna help save people. But no, now we start
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: thinking about the political new ones, the lack of farmers, right,
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: the lack of ownership, the lack of good crops, right,
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: our even lack of agricultural intelligence whatsoever within our communities,
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: which is the whole other AI our lack of land ownership,
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: and then our food deserts that we have. Then we
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: talk about nutrition forever, chemicals within our blood and plastics.
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: So you go to a real dark place and all
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: of that is associated. So media, I think, is the
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: most powerful thing in this whole scenario. If you can
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: create movies and you have conversations and podcasts, that has
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: giving you a optimistic outlook of the future. That's what
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: your mind imagines. That imagination is fair so healthily that
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: you start falling in love with the future.
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: Most people ain't in love with the future now, they're
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: scared of it.
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: No, So therefore, if you about to go meet somebody
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: that you're afraid of, man you reject that idea, you're
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: gonna start trying to get there as much as possible.
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: So I'll call.
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: It like falling in love with.
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: The future, romanticizing it if you will. Right Like, when
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: you think about your life, are you in love with
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: next year? Are you in love with ten years out
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: from now? Or do you have a negative outlook based
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: on your reality that's existing.
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: Have you because I feel like the AI thing, like
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: you said, it's very I feel like there has been
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: like this billionaire class that has always kind of like
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: I mean, and I think every single party. You know,
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: obviously Kamala had more billionaires donated to her campaign than
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: Trump did. But it feels like this Trump administration has
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: kind of like ushered in like the tech oligarchs unapologetically. Yeah.
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: You know you think about like who's donated to this
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: fucking ballroom? And you know Peter Thiel funded jd Vance's
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: entire political career, he's in the White House. Do you
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: feel like like, because it is a if you pay
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: too much attention to the news cycle, you could trick
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: yourself into becoming like really hopeless. Yeah, what is what
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: are the ways you think that like AI could be applied,
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: Like if somebody is like, look, I'm struggling, I got
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: two or three jobs, what is the AI angle for
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: that person to maybe implement on a daily basis or
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: something that they could use a claud for or a
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: chat GPT for. I mean, I think you know, building
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: an app, if you got an idea, you can build
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: an app in two or three days, right, you know,
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: there's things you could do. But I think like it
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: does feel like we're in a place where if you
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: pay too much attention to the news, like you said earlier,
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: there's just so much shit every day that you could
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: either get lost in it or you could psych yourself out.
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: My radio show producer is like, mentally he gets in
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: dark places over the Trump shit. Yeah. But like for
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: those people that are like in that spot where like
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: they're like I just I mean, like you said, man,
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: they're just thinking about next week, They're not thinking about
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: next year. What are those kind of right spots that
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: they could use some of this tech for and and
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: what would be the advice you'd give them to kind
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: of change their outlook? Yeah, that's a good question.
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: I mean every day I see people in my own
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: family using it for different things. You know, my first
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: use case for AI is a thinking partner, right, and
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: essentially it's not replacing your thinking, right. I think when
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: most people are missing in their life is clarity.
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: They don't know themselves, they can't afford some person. And
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: I ain't talking about like even just a therapist. A
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: lot of people are using it for therapy. I wouldn't
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: suggest that I would use it for more so you know,
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: researching things so you can understand maybe what's happening with you,
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: but not just over self diagnosing yourself with all these
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: issues and problems, right, because I think then that becomes
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: a new identity trend.
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: And it feels like sometimes chat ept will kind of
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: lean ch rept is what they call a sick efent. Yeah,
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: it like leans into whatever they wanted to do.
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: It pitman, it's gonna tell you what you want to hear.
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: Understand me, so they can keep using you and you
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: can keep using it, and you get called in this rotation.
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: So that's why I say a thinking partner is number
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: one right where I want to use it to do research,
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: research at a level that you would have never been
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: able to get in your life.
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: So if your dad and you know you want to
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: start a company, right, what time do you have to
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: go do the proper research so that you have a
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: co founder that's helping you set up this business, right
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: Because you may not know how to.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: Start a company.
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: You may not know how to do marketing, you may
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: not know who to do branding, you may not have
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: nothing to.
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: Do with design, taste, sourcing, et cetera.
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: Right, So I think The first use case is sitting
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: through and number one asking yourself why you want to
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: get this done? Right, and you will essentially do a
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: set up an interview with the AI. So you would
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: take a prompt and you'd be like, listen, here's what
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: I want to do. I want you to interview with
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: and take me through like one hundred different questions.
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: Right. So a lot of people that do.
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: This and they will find out they have a particular
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: skill that they could turn into a digital product. So
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: after you go through this interview, then you essentially are
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: creating an ebook or digital product and you start learning
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: your positioning.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: So let's say somebody that's sitting here and there a
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: producer and they do a manager you got your editor
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: back here. He sits there and says, I want you
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: to take me through one hundred questions on my framework
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: on how I do editing. So now once you have
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: that down, you can then go on social media and
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: start teaching it. Once you start teaching it and you
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: have your framework, now people saying that, man, would you
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: teach me, you start picking up clients.
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: I've done that and I know other people who've done
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: this as well, where you're literally just learning.
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: What is your skill, what is your value?
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: What is your gift?
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: Then we start studying our cognitive types, like what is
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: the way that you think? I think the biggest process
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: that people have to goal with learning, not learning, but unlearning, right,
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: because in school you are taught to be somewhere yeah right,
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: unlearning is the key to the future. You understand me,
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: because that's how you evolve, Like when you are in school.
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: School started to especially during the industrial economies, to make people,
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: of course workers, and that work will meaning that I
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: need you to be a specialized skill alone this wheelhouse, right,
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: so you the person that packaged it. You twist the bottle,
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: you turn into this, you turn to this, you turn
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: to this. So each person became specialists yeah right, because
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: you know that you will be working in an industry
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: inside that kind.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we were creating a class of manufacturers exactly factory workers.
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: We became factory thinkers.
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: Right, So we need a factory reset because what you're
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: trying to do now is get into creativity and think
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: like an entrepreneur. But you don't know how to manage
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: yourself because you were never taught that. The way that
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: you analyze patterns and things of that nature was valuable
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: because when you go into a school and a child
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: doesn't want to sit in a class because they don't
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: want to sit through an hour lesson, that's not a
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: bad thing. It just may not capture their interests or
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: it may not be their learning type right. They may
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: see a pattern and they may question a teacher, and
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: that teacher would be like, don't question it, just get
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: it done. But they may recognize patterns for things to
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: get done better.
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: They may be a systems thinker.
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: But when you go to a job, your manager don't
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: want to hear that shit. I need you to complete
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: a task within this time and then get it done.
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: And so now you have people.
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: That are waiting to be told what to do next.
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: So when they get on chat GPT, they're asking chat
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: GPT to tell them what to do. This becomes dangerous
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: because you then start offloading. It's called cognitive offloading, to
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: where you then start giving your mind away to chat
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: GPT and you stop developing that muscle to think for yourself.
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: So before I tell people to use.
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: AI, I want you to understand how it could also
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: use you and understand how sophisticated these tools are. So
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: use it as a thinking partner to where you're always
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: making the final decision. AI is just presenting you information
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: and data, like if people work for you, and now
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: you're reflecting on Okay, what's the best pathway ABC or
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: D Right, and so now you got to think of
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: it like you have world class experts inside Joe Pocket
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: at any single time for any dream that you want
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: to create in your life.
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: If you got a child and you.
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: Want to understand how to create a curriculum for them
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: so that you can teach them I don't know marketing,
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: if you will, right now, you can sit down with
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: that child and you can turn that into a story lesson,
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: you can turn that into.
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: A coloring book. Right, you can do whatever you want to.
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: I know people that's sat down and they created children's
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: books and then that became viral and then they made
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: ten twenty thirty thousand dollars from it, right with AI
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: companies even partnering with them. Right, So it's like it's
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: more so about what's your dream? What is something that
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: you want to get done? And a problem for a
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: lot of people, they stopped dreaming a long time ago, right,
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: like we start looking at reality. We stopped using our imagination,
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: so it shouldn't be I don't want to tell people
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: what to do, because when you tell them what to do,
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: they need you to tell them the next thing to
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: do as well, Right, like we do AI hackathions, But
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: we're essentially just showing you how to build out these
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: AI agents that exist that can help you build out
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: your dream.
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: But if you don't have no dream, then a AI
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: nothing for you.
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: Right, but use it as a research company so that
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: every single day you can go in there and you
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: can learn new things.
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: I use it to automate calendars. I use it to
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: automate my emails.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: Every single time I use it, I have a clause
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: right invoices every month and I get it to where
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: every day I get a brief.
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: That brief is giving me the most interesting things that
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: I wanted telling me about. AI is showing me giving
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: me some information about the news, and may give me
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: some information about what's going on in the cosmos on
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: a daily basis. Right, it might let me know what's
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: going on in the stock market.
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: That just saved me time.
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: And I'm just telling it what sources that I think
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: are credible that I want to learn from the way
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: that I want to get my information given to me
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: why it's important, right, And then the more I'm feeding
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: it information on my brand, here's content ideas that I
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: think will be good based on your positioning right in
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: a way that you can frame it. And so now
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: every single day, instead of me having to think about
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: those things, I save time, I save money.
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: Do you have multiple AI agents that? Yes? Okay, so
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: because I haven't gotten to that point, but I see
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: like on X and shit, they'll be like a dude
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: with like three mac minis. Uh huh. Does each agent
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: need its own computer? No, not at all.
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: Okay, So you can operate the agents in the cloud
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: or you can operate them locally.
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: So I had this on I was out in Philly.
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: I was giving meat meals this breakdown because he been
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: being an.
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: AI I saw, I've ever seen this tweet? Yeah?
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So I sent him a couple too.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: Man, I feel like he'd be getting a bad rap,
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: but he'd be saying some real shit.
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he had that tour, so he just gonna say
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: what's on his mind without filtering it, you feel me.
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: But we had a good conversation just about technology and
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: the coachure in the future, and one of the things
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: was using a local model. So most people don't know
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: is actually you can gain free AI access so you
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: don't have to go pay for chat, GPT or CLAW
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: right because most of the time China has open source models.
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: So open source meaning.
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: That the code is open.
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: You can literally take that and you can download it
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: on this part of your computer called the terminal. Right
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: inside the terminal is essentially like the back end of
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: your computer. You can upload that free software and now
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: you have a full AI that's only working for you.
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: It's customized for you. It's learning you over time. Now
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: they do have agents, so most of the ones that
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: people know about is or MISS and the other agent
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: is a CLAW agent. But then Claude has agents inside
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: of their premium tier model to where they will spawn
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: up multiple agents for you.
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like there's the code side.
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: It's all these different When that can do sales, right,
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: one that can do marketing, when they can do branding,
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: when they can do research, when that is about tastes,
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: when that can spawn up websites.
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: Right, then you can have.
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: One that's managing all of these as well, then one
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: that's checking their work, one that's making sure that there's
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: no security leaks in between everything that's auditing, Like you're
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: essentially saying what employees that I want to hire and
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: how do I turn these AI workers into my employees.
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: So instead of prompting, now they call it loops. So
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: when you do one prompt, how do you make that
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: happen every single day to where it turns into a loop. Right,
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: So therefore you're not going every day and prompting. Yes,
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: So think about the task that you do every day,
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: and I want you to write them down. Once you
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: write them down, I want you to then go into
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: the AI and then I want you to turn that
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: into a loop so that you don't have to do
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: that every single day.
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: So what would be practical terms.
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: Let's say someone has claud uh huh content So everybody
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: wants to be a content creator.
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: Everybody is a content creator. They have what they call
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: the MCP, which is basically.
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: By the way, is there one of those two that
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: you prefer to use? No, No, because they're always competing.
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: Claude just had a model called Mythos that they and
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: it was under the Mythos models one called fable that
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: you were able to use. But they discontinued it because
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: they said it was too powerful, and the government said
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: that they couldn't allow people to have it, foreign adversaries
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: and other people to have it. And there's a lot
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: that goes on into that side the way.
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: Kind of like the only semi ethical thing I've seen
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: an AI company do was anthropics say nah, yeah, But
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: even then, it's like.
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: Some of this stuff, man, it's very interesting because I
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: think they've building up a lot of myth the lord
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: around it. And I always think every time I get
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: a new model, I always think it's the old model
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: in the future.
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: So you okay, So it doesn't matter if you use
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: chatgypt Claude.
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: Now, some people will say that Claude has less footprint
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: and a little more ethical right in their use. But
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: if you're talking about effectiveness, you have Codex, which is
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: chatgybt's model for coding. So if you want to do
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: vibe coding to where you just giving it English language
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: and you're telling it what to build, it will go
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: through that full process and building out an application, building
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: out a website, helping you do research, crediting images, videos.
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: Et cetera.
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: Right, you can edit inside claud as well. Yesterday I
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: just did a really good hookup where they have something
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: called Remotion. You can take those clips and you can
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: edit clips inside Remotion, right, which clips like clip like this?
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: Dast Yeah, you can upload those clips inside Remotion. There's
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: a couple other connectors on there that you can put in.
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: But once you have it set up, and I'll give
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: you the prompt. Once you have it set up, you
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: can actually have the claud and you'll put it all
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: the way on Max. And when you should put it
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: on Max, I forget what it's called, but they actually
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: spawn multiple agents that's working on it at once. So
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: what this means is is that let's say you want
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: it to be your video editor, right, what it does
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: is it'll go in there and instead of one agent
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: working on it on behind the scenes, it might have
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: one hundred agents working on multiple tasks, all that wants
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: to get it done faster. One might be checking the code,
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: one might be checking the link that you just sent,
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: one might be actually doing the code and making sure
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: it works. One might be running a security on it.
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: All these are happening simultaneous, right. But this is in
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: the claw like max plan that you get to simplify
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: it though, it's just saying that you get it to
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: a point where you can just upload a video and say,
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: bring me out some of the most viral clips and
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: you'll get it done, just like these AI apps that's
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: doing it for you.
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I've used the Opus clip and it's still very imperfect.
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because you really want to get it to the
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: point where like, what's your framework for finding clips in
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: the first place.
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I have my guy and I just
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: trust my guy cook and he just chops everything up.
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: And there's just something about having a human touching. The
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: human touch always go be there.
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: That's in a review style when it comes to the editor, Like,
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: I'll sit with a team and I was training him
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: yesterday on this.
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: It's more so.
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: About them being able to get it done faster and
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: get it done more efficiently. Like so, if it takes you,
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: you know, three hours to get something done, now, how
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: can we figure out to cut that down into one hour?
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: Now you can spend more time on a creative right, because.
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: Now you can put more flair into division, right, more
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: exactly as opposed to okay, I need ten clips. Well,
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: what if you.
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: Know I'm trying to get you to stop doing machine
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: like tasks.
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: Because the AI can technically clip your shit out, or
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: at least give you an idea of what could be clipped.
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: And then you could go and you know, well, you
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: could use dscript.
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: Dscript have an MCP, which is basically a connector to
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: whatever ar service you use it, and then from there
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: dscript will edit your clips out. So you say, listen,
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: give me all the clips. When Ninete Keys was talking
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: about AI, and then in the first eight words of
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: every sentence he was talking about described exactly the next sentence, right,
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: So therefore it'll go in there, find those clips and
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: tell you why. Now from there you can actually change
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: which models you're using, so you might want to put
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: it on Claude Opus four point eight, which is a
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: stronger model that has thinking, so it has a logic
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: of why it's doing it. It's not just guessing, and
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: you can actually look at the logic and why it's
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: choosing this clip. And let's say once you read that
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: and you're like, okay, y'all pick this clip because.
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: You thought it was gonna be viral.
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: But then you go in there and give it your
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: reason and on why that wasn't a good clip. So
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: therefore you're training it to become better. So that yeah,
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: so now when you drop an hour video in there,
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: and if you could set up a you set up
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: a workflow to where it goes in there. It stitches,
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: it reviews, it color grades, it checks the sound audio.
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: Right then it pulls you a clip.
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: You might get to a point where you take raw
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: video soon as it done, lines up the audio with
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: the video, and then create you a clip within an hour.
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: Right that process sometimes when an editor can take days
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: depending on their workload.
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: That they working individually just for you.
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: So, when we start talking about content, if you using
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: something like Higgs Field, which they have something called supercomputer,
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: which is like you can do marketing, branding, content creation,
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: you can do animation, you can do almost anything on
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: the back end there. And that's because the average person
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: wouldn't be able to afford all these things if they
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: tried to pay for them all. So this is why
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: I'm not mad at Ai, because most people can't afford
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: to have When you start talking about branding, you start
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: talking about business. How can we democratize access to taste
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: so where all they have to focus on is their
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: taste level, and then the skill can be done by
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: the machine. The human side is the output.
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: It's getting the taste down that matters. Yeah.
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: Now there's some companies that's even trying to automate taste,
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: which I don't think is possible because once you do that,
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: then everybody has the same right, and then it's no
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: longer tasteful.
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: And nothing's unique. Everyone's got the same style of clips exactly.
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: It's not. There's nothing that makes you shit different.
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: But I think there's like some things you don't want
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: it to do. You don't want it to write for you,
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: right right. You always want to be the human in
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: the process. And maybe there's seventy percent human, meaning that
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: I'm the one doing most of the research, doing the review.
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: But what part of the process can you have AI do?
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's almost like if you're an editor and you
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: were smart enough and I don't want to say smart
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: enough because but if you if you applied yourself to
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: learning this shit the right way, you could scale your business.
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: You know, if you if you were just like a
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: freelance editor, Yeah, you could build out a real fucking Hey,
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: I want to edit clips for thirty different Everybody who
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: does podcast the clips radio stations need content all that.
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: Once you have your system done all you can go
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: hit the small businesses right now, right, and you can
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: go look at who they hiring for. And then once
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: you know what they hiring for, you can create an
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: AI agent and be like, look, I created this for
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: your business.
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: I love to take you through this.
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: You can go look at small businesses that have ugly websites.
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: You can go redesign those websites and be like, look,
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: I made you a better website. And it's the funnels
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: for your business. I think that it can give you
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: a twenty percent return, right, and you could do it
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: in a way to where it's like, look, I don't
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: You don't even have to charge them nothing. You can
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: get a cut on a percentage of what it makes
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: them if this thing.
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: Works, and it doesn't take you that much. Once you
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: get those systems down, it doesn't take it. Yeah, I saw.
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: And I don't want to bring up Kevin o'larry like
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: he's a good because Kevin o'larry's a piece of shit
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: in my opinion, But I did see his whole thing
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: was like he was like, if I had to restart
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: from nothing at zero right now, huh, I would teach
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: businesses how to build the I agents. Yeah, that would
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: be my I would just go all in on that.
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: I would go to small businesses. I would teach him
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: how to build out their their AI agents and they
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: would pay me a fee and I would just scale that.
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: And that's what we're doing, you know what I mean
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: when we do a hack ofthons, be teaching you how
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: to set up your first agent so that they can
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: produce a task for you. And our students are already
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: at that point to where the agents are doing stuff
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: for them, and we focus on what's the ROI for
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: when these agents are doing I want you to just
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: make it.
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: I want you to have a specific.
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: Output in mind and outcome in mind so that you
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: can say that this was worth my time and this
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: is worth having within my business. But most of the
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: time you can't do that if you don't understand your business,
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: if you're not writing down the systems and things of
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: that nature, because then once you have that, you can
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: feed that into the AI. There's I forget what it's called.
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: I thought Steve was in here, but there's this website
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: where you can take the work that you do and
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: then you can screen record that, and then that screen
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: recording becomes the way that you train your AI agent
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: to work just like you, so.
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: It'll see what you're doing exactly that point right.
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: So now you got to sop. So now it understands
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: every step in the process that you take. So every
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: step in that process then turns into a four system,
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean.
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: So, oh, we see that.
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: You research here first, then you go check this clip,
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: then you open up this app, then you edit here,
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: then you stitch here, then you do this. Now AI
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: turns that into a transcript to what give us a
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: step by step Now that's step by step.
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: You feed that and then you go to claud and
• 40:18
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• 41:08
  Speaker 1: Do you have because I've seen a lot of like
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: hour two hour long YouTube videos breaking down how to
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: learn quart or whatever. Have you done your own version
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: of Obviously you got the hackathon, which is more of
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: like a workshop, i'd assume.
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so we actually like take people through it. I
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: have my tech guy, Antoine Digital. He's been doing this
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: for the last like ten plus years. And in those
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: spaces is where we want to make sure that we're
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: not just giving you a video and you're looking online
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: because information is everywhere, but we're thinking about your specific
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: use case.
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like what's your use case? What do you got
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: in mind that.
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so our hackathon was making sure that every single
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: person left with a working agent that they can use
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: in their business.
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Do you do you have any sort of Obviously
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: we were talking earlierbout having a positive outlook for the future.
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: But I'm just curious, like, what is your thoughts on
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: I guess the world right now? We just got on
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: the other side of this Iran deal that looks like
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: it might be real. I mean, Trump just signed a
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: deal that was written in Farsi, which is which I
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: thought was a cool flex you know, by Iran. But
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: you know, it feels like the Zi the Zion could be.
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: But it feels like the Zion is like agenda has
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: been kind of like exposed to a point where you know,
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: the cats out outside of the bag. I don't know
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: if it'll ever go back in the bag, which also
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: explains why they're in such a rush to get this
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: Greater Israel thing pushed through and to kind of get
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: all of this far right Zionis shit pushed through while
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: they can, because they're losing the youth, they're losing the left,
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: and they're losing a good portion of the right. I mean,
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: I just showed you a video or it feels like
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: Jade Vance has kind of drawing a line in the sand,
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: and obviously it's it's all bullshit because he has no spine.
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: But I'm just curious, what are your thoughts just with
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: all that that's happening in the world, and we just
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: got on the other side. We've had technically, you know,
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: two wars under Trump, and there was the Twelve Day War,
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: and then we just got on the other side of
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: the sun Iranian War. And then you know, there was
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: the shit that happened in Venezuela that was obviously an operation.
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: But you know, kind of crazy world we're living.
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: In, Yeah, Man, one of those questions that there's the
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: things that's outside of our control, and then there's the
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: things that we can control, right And so I think
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: the way that you make sure that you don't go
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: crazy is you think about the things that you can control.
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: Like, as much as we talk about how messed up
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: imperialism is, even white supremacy within our community, if we
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: really think the enemy is so bad, then how come
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: we don't coordinate more?
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: Right? Right?
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: Like, you can think about who do you think are
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: like black voices that you see are like pro black
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: right now.
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: I mean you're the main one, Charlotte, Jaylen Brown, Kyrie.
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: What about the media killer Mike Mark Lamont Hill? Who else? Dom?
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: I think?
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: I don't know now the question have you seen us
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: do anything together?
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: No?
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: Then the things that we talk about can't be that bad.
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: Hm.
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: That's the way I look at it. The world can't
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: be that bad if the people are not organizing.
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: What's almost like what you said earlier, like, how is
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: there ever supposed to be a revolution? Yeah?
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: Well, I just think that we've turned everything into entertainment.
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: Everything is monetizable, everything's a meme for sure. The reason
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: grown man gossip is because the effemination of manhood is
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: monetizable now, like you get paid to gossip. So therefore
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: you don't even look at it as a feminine thing, right,
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: even though historically it was something I was associated right
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: with women. Right, And so when we think about it,
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: men have always had ways to where we take in information.
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: We just never called it gossiping. Today, man don't mind gossiping, right,
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: because you can monetize it.
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: So now it's capitalism.
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: Even the way we talk about white supremacy, the way
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: we talk about the world. The way we talk about
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: the problems, it's all just capitalism because we're all just
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: monetizing on the grievances of the world.
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I saw the homie poetic Flocko, who hasn't really
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: entertaining YouTube channel, but he was showing this Chud the
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: Builder thing went down and he was showing like the
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: amount of money he made on YouTube talking about Chud
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: the Builder for the month. Yeah, and it was like
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty thousand dollars. Yeah, which is which
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: is crazy.
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, No, but think about that, so this is nothing
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: is meaningful anymore. It's just money.
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: Social media has two main purposes. There's money or messaging.
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: If you have a message right that you think is meaningful,
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: or you have a counter narrative to what is the
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: dominant messaging, then you're going to use social media for that.
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: The other one is Mark Zuckerberg and Elon Musk, which
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: are extremely wealthy individuals beyond what we can calculate right
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: own these platforms. So anytime we're using these platforms, right,
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: we're benefiting them.
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: All of the.
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: Attention, all the energy that we galvanize on these platforms
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: is theirs to use and convert so that they can grow.
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: And get richer and richer and richer. Right.
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: So, if you're not making money to put resources behind
• 46:30
  Speaker 3: your sovereignty, if you will, right, then it's a waste
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: of time to even use social media if it's not
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: for money or messaging.
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: So that's the way I look at it, point blank
• 46:40
  Speaker 3: period at this point in time, because it's not social media,
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: it's not interest media, you understand me. It's just capitalism, right, right,
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: It's about media to make money, right, And the way
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: you make money is to get people's attention and convert
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: that attention into a product. It's been commodified, right, So
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: where do we go from here is how do we
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: create more face to face experiences for the next generation
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: so they're not stuck on these algorithms. Because I look
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: at the world as being homo social. It's not that
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: the young generation that we say effeminine or do things
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: that we wouldn't considered to be naturally attributed to manhood
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: is at number one, they didn't grow up with examples
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: and principles. They grew up with algorithms, right, Like we
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: stare at celebrities more than we stare at real stars
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: in the sky.
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: Now we don't look at the fucking sky anymore.
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: And we also have we also like let streamers live.
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: Like for us, ninety percent of streamers ain't talking about shit.
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: It ain't about nothing, and they do a lot of
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: raise baiting and gay baiting.
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: We know that that happens because they want to convert
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: it right, But that's all that means that nothing matters,
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: there's no morals, it's saying that what gets me attention.
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: I would run the script on that, convert that into monetization.
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: So even if somebody slapped the hell out you, somebody
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: going on to interview you right after that slap and
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: they'll probably pay you for it once that's happeneding you,
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: incentivizing negative behavior. So the question becomes is what is
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: the coordination layer for the culture that counter what the
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: current narrative is. So we know what the trajectory and
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: direction of the world that we don't like, But who
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: is willing to be intentional about resourcing right a different incentive.
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: So if we're talking about independent media, I think that
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: we are in a great opportunity zone for those who
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: have media platforms to coordinate so that there's a better
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: narrative in messaging. But if there's no intentionality between the
• 48:25
  Speaker 3: thought leader and the celebrity and the wealth manager right
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: and the politician, then that's not a culture. It's fragmentation.
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: So my focus is more so about what is the
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: world that we want we see, where the world is going,
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: what's the counter narrative to that, and how do we
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: get there? And I think through coordination and organization is key.
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: Otherwise we're just monetizing the grievances of the world and
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: where things are going. But hell yeah, I got a
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: positive outlook about the world.
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 48:53
  Speaker 3: I was always taught that the world is mineing. I
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: believe that right until the day I die. I believe
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: that we are gods right. I believe in infinite confidence.
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: I believe in maximizing my optimism. I believe in force
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: redistribution of wealth right through us creating collective sovereignty systems
• 49:09
  Speaker 3: that are interconnected and linked. I believe in us focusing
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: on family offices so that we can take the collective
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: power right because individually we ain't got no power. I
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: don't care how great somebody sound on a microphone, what
• 49:21
  Speaker 3: their platform is doing, and what announcement that they have
• 49:23
  Speaker 3: none of that shit matters. What matters is do they
• 49:26
  Speaker 3: have coordination. We mad at Peter Till and the rest
• 49:28
  Speaker 3: of these guys for getting together and coordinating about power.
• 49:31
  Speaker 3: But if you think secret society, what if you think
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: that's so bad, I'll come you don't do it.
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: If you think that that's so bad, but you're.
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: Not willing to do the same for something good, how
• 49:39
  Speaker 3: you consider yourself good? I'm just saying that. I just
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: think that a lot of this shit is fake as fuck,
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: You understand me. I think that we talk a lot
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: about white supremacy and imperialism and techno feudalism, but the
• 49:49
  Speaker 3: good guys ain't willing to link up.
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: Because I feel like some of that is ego and
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: some of it is everything that is fear too. And
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: also I also feel like everything has to have a
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: bag attached. Well, you can get the bag if you're
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: operating collectively, right, But I just mean in terms of like,
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: it's hard to get people to operate for the greater
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: good immediately. But like you said, there is a part
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: of fear that is.
• 50:14
  Speaker 3: Well, see, here's the thing, it's just just coordination. Most
• 50:16
  Speaker 3: people we have the knowledge within our communities person become rich,
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: they go get a you go get you a white
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: you know, financial manager for your money. That money is
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: then being flipped into their communities and leveraged inside their community.
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: So even when we are celebrating somebody getting a deal,
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: we never look at, okay, who is behind those deals?
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: Who is their manager?
• 50:36
  Speaker 3: Who's like when we sat down with Jaylen Brown and
• 50:38
  Speaker 3: he said that he didn't want to get an agent
• 50:40
  Speaker 3: because he didn't want nobody taking their percentage when he
• 50:42
  Speaker 3: can do that himself where he can set that up
• 50:45
  Speaker 3: within his family. That was intelligent, right, because you then
• 50:48
  Speaker 3: start looking at the infrastructure. Who's the lawyer, who's the accountant, right,
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: who's managing the money, who's taking fees on that right?
• 50:54
  Speaker 3: Who's controlling the bank behind all this black celebrity every
• 50:58
  Speaker 3: time they get a thirty million dollar deal. Okay, but
• 51:01
  Speaker 3: is there a black wealth family office behind that?
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: No? You understand me.
• 51:06
  Speaker 3: So we talk black, but economically, right, our money is
• 51:09
  Speaker 3: circulated and controlled by people that don't look like us.
• 51:12
  Speaker 3: So even if you want to do something good, right,
• 51:14
  Speaker 3: they're gonna be like, well, I don't really get fees
• 51:17
  Speaker 3: off if you take money out of my management. I'm
• 51:20
  Speaker 3: not going to get fees off you chasing your dream
• 51:21
  Speaker 3: of doing something for your community. I was talking to
• 51:24
  Speaker 3: my brother Keenan Bees, and we was talking about how
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: much money do you think it costs to run a
• 51:28
  Speaker 3: grocery store just yearly?
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: I would say probably a few hundred thousand dollars? How
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: big it is?
• 51:35
  Speaker 3: One hundred and fifty thousand dollars on the average. Okay, right,
• 51:38
  Speaker 3: very small. Now, think about all the foundations that these
• 51:41
  Speaker 3: celebrities have, so called wealthy people have all these foundations.
• 51:44
  Speaker 3: How many of them started a grocery store with just
• 51:47
  Speaker 3: the money that they're writing off from their foundation can
• 51:49
  Speaker 3: go to to operate.
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Like it can literally just be an attached d Yeah.
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: So it's not that it can't be done, we're not
• 51:55
  Speaker 3: being intentional about doing it.
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I think that's another thing too that happens in
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: the music industry where you'll see artists make decisions that
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: are really good for their management because their management is
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: getting paid. Yeah, so like they're going to push them
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: in the direction of because they don't got to.
• 52:12
  Speaker 3: Worry about it. Man, they'd be hoing them. They don't
• 52:14
  Speaker 3: even think that they can control their own money. They
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: be asking them what they can do what they mar.
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: Right, and it's like yo, like you signed a shitty
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: deal because your management got on the upfront and now
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: you gotta recoup.
• 52:23
  Speaker 3: When a rapper gets a nice deal, Okay, who's managing
• 52:25
  Speaker 3: that money? Right, He's in a transition phase of now
• 52:28
  Speaker 3: having to be an operator of wealth.
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 52:30
  Speaker 3: If you get thirty million dollars, you got thirty million
• 52:33
  Speaker 3: dollar company, right, because that money is the business that
• 52:36
  Speaker 3: you now have to manage. You know, daily, I'll go
• 52:39
  Speaker 3: to an office. You're not just the office, but I
• 52:41
  Speaker 3: work within a family office called factory and we have
• 52:45
  Speaker 3: our Factory Club. It's sixty eight thousand square feet over
• 52:47
  Speaker 3: there by la people coming in on a daily basis.
• 52:50
  Speaker 3: I'm learning this, learning the real intricacies when you start
• 52:53
  Speaker 3: talking about wealth and management and coordinational organization and way
• 52:57
  Speaker 3: that these business in.
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: The world is really ran.
• 53:00
  Speaker 3: It's really easy to be a gettest things when you're
• 53:02
  Speaker 3: ignorant of how they actually work, right, It's easy to
• 53:05
  Speaker 3: destroy things. But we are in an era where we
• 53:08
  Speaker 3: should be focused on what are we building right, and
• 53:10
  Speaker 3: the things that we build becomes the institutions because there's
• 53:13
  Speaker 3: no independent media if it's dependent right on somebody else's resources.
• 53:19
  Speaker 3: Now there's no power if it's individual. Collectively, if I say,
• 53:23
  Speaker 3: nineteen Keys is going to take his views that he
• 53:26
  Speaker 3: has as a media operator yearly, it don't even matter.
• 53:29
  Speaker 3: If it's hundreds of millions, that's still not enough to
• 53:31
  Speaker 3: go and go get you hundreds of millions of dollars
• 53:33
  Speaker 3: off that. But if I say, let me go in
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: my phone rolodex a people that I can call, and
• 53:39
  Speaker 3: I got everybody number that's somebody's independent media or in media,
• 53:44
  Speaker 3: and you go gather the top one hundred voices and platforms,
• 53:47
  Speaker 3: and collectively we have billions billions of views, right, billions
• 53:53
  Speaker 3: or millions and millions of constituents that followers and fans
• 53:58
  Speaker 3: and viewers every single year. And I take that collective.
• 54:01
  Speaker 3: Now you can run a bag for that, because you
• 54:03
  Speaker 3: go to a company and say, if you ever want
• 54:05
  Speaker 3: inside the culture, same way revolt random Model, then okay,
• 54:08
  Speaker 3: give us the bag for.
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like a collective. Everybody gets a piece of
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: of of the pot. Right, you know what I'm saying.
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: If there's like a you know, if somebody wants to
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: come in and let's say it's Nike or whoever, the
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: fuck is, and they want to tap in with a
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: certain you know, like you said, tap in with the
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: quote unquote culture. Everybody eats talk of that. Yeah, but
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: and then everybody has to kind of agree on like
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: the morals on who you're gonna work with and what
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: the ya you know.
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: But these niggas ain't got no morals, Let's be honest.
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: Well you and never Well you and I were talking
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: a little bit last week, and we're kind of talking
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: about like, you know, look, at the end of the day,
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: there's like certain information, and there's certain like narratives that
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: are obviously pushed through mainstream media. And as much as
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: like we like to think everyone's kind of waking up
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: the shit, most people who consume information, they consume it
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: on a really surface level basis, right, So it's like
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: whatever the headline might be, whatever they see when they're
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: scrolling on their you know, commute, or whatever Fox New
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: CNN might feed you. But if there is a you know,
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: let's say it's nineteen Keys and it's Charlotte Mane, and
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: it's like, you know, this coalition of people who have
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: the attention that everybody desperately wants and collectively can kind
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: of push certain you know, perspectives that aren't being represented accurately.
• 55:28
  Speaker 3: You know, it's powerful, and let's say every person probably
• 55:32
  Speaker 3: won't be able to do good research to figure out
• 55:35
  Speaker 3: if the source of the things that they're talking about
• 55:37
  Speaker 3: is even true because malinformation, disinformation and misinformation is a
• 55:41
  Speaker 3: huge issue, I mean still, because most of the stuff
• 55:44
  Speaker 3: that we're getting is not even real. So we end
• 55:46
  Speaker 3: up having a conversation on something that's already false. So
• 55:49
  Speaker 3: it doesn't matter what perspective we end up gaining, because
• 55:52
  Speaker 3: the root of it is false in the first place.
• 55:55
  Speaker 3: But now let's say you got information that's being disseminated
• 55:58
  Speaker 3: amongst those platforms, fact checking those things, so now they
• 56:02
  Speaker 3: can at least have trusted sources. Right now, that's worth
• 56:05
  Speaker 3: the membership, right That's worth being a part of that
• 56:08
  Speaker 3: just bit of coordination to make sure that we're at
• 56:11
  Speaker 3: least having conversations and reflecting truth and when something that
• 56:15
  Speaker 3: does come out, because the misinformation warfare and the narrative warfare.
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: Is only going to spread and get bigger, right.
• 56:21
  Speaker 3: Cognitive warfare, the controlling of how we think is only
• 56:24
  Speaker 3: going to get worse. With AI agents and algorithms, When
• 56:27
  Speaker 3: a person can go create a thousand pages spawned up
• 56:30
  Speaker 3: in an instant to go spread the narratives, to start
• 56:32
  Speaker 3: seeding these ideas and thoughts all throughout social media strategically.
• 56:37
  Speaker 3: And it feels real because when you go check one
• 56:39
  Speaker 3: source to take you to another source and another source,
• 56:41
  Speaker 3: you've probably done research it because they set up this
• 56:43
  Speaker 3: rabbit hole and cadence so that you think it was
• 56:46
  Speaker 3: real in the first place.
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the bot shit is crazy. Yeah, I realized it,
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: like when I started getting into it with Drake fans
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: on Twitter and every single one of their profiles didn't
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: follow anybody. Yeah.
• 56:56
  Speaker 3: Well, the bar forms are set up pretty easy, man.
• 56:58
  Speaker 3: You go find some offices, it's going to have thousands
• 57:01
  Speaker 3: of phones, right, And they're not just spreading just the misinformation,
• 57:05
  Speaker 3: they're seating it as gossip, right, and the seating it
• 57:08
  Speaker 3: in these particular places with looking like is UGC creator
• 57:12
  Speaker 3: content that is organic. Once it reaches a certain threshold,
• 57:16
  Speaker 3: then that's when they push it. Then it starts getting
• 57:18
  Speaker 3: picked up and it's everywhere, so you feel it is real, right,
• 57:21
  Speaker 3: And I think the problem is that speed is easier
• 57:24
  Speaker 3: to monetize, so when something happens like with the chuck
• 57:28
  Speaker 3: the builder thing. You don't care about accuracy, no, because
• 57:31
  Speaker 3: you feel like I can correct it maybe later on.
• 57:33
  Speaker 3: You really care about let me be the first to
• 57:36
  Speaker 3: get to the punch so I can get paid.
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: Exactly the attention and the views will be there immediately.
• 57:41
  Speaker 3: So there then is what is the watch dog that
• 57:45
  Speaker 3: makes sure that we're not intentionally being our own oppressors
• 57:50
  Speaker 3: or unintentionally being our on oppressors. Right, And so if
• 57:53
  Speaker 3: we're not being intentional, then we are impressing each other
• 57:56
  Speaker 3: because we are not really filtering on what we're saying
• 57:59
  Speaker 3: or what doing has a positive impact or not. So
• 58:02
  Speaker 3: if you really don't care, then you can go look
• 58:04
  Speaker 3: at Peter till secret organization all you want to that
• 58:08
  Speaker 3: has people on both sides of the aisle, which is
• 58:11
  Speaker 3: I don't care about them, I care about what's our organization, right,
• 58:14
  Speaker 3: That's all. Like anytime I see somebody doing something on
• 58:17
  Speaker 3: one side and you got a problem with it, how
• 58:19
  Speaker 3: come you're not doing it on this side.
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you this.
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: Good is slow to organize.
• 58:24
  Speaker 3: Good people that think they're good, it's not the same
• 58:26
  Speaker 3: as people that's evil.
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: Evil people are.
• 58:28
  Speaker 3: Greedy, so they want it now. They're not waiting for it,
• 58:31
  Speaker 3: They're going to get it now. Good is reacting when
• 58:33
  Speaker 3: injustice happens. That's when we step it in place, right,
• 58:36
  Speaker 3: and so instead you have to be villaging about everything.
• 58:40
  Speaker 3: Right now, when I look at Africa, Eli musk is
• 58:43
  Speaker 3: getting to deal with all of these countries over there
• 58:45
  Speaker 3: in Africa to go do Starlink, right, I think that's
• 58:47
  Speaker 3: probably one of the truest values of SpaceX right now
• 58:50
  Speaker 3: in the first place, right, But when he goes set
• 58:53
  Speaker 3: up that star link, how much control does he have
• 58:55
  Speaker 3: over the African mind or the continent when he's setting
• 58:58
  Speaker 3: up in villages and they never had to end. I
• 59:00
  Speaker 3: set across from the president. I interviewed him when I
• 59:03
  Speaker 3: went to Uganda and he had this first podcast with
• 59:06
  Speaker 3: gen Z and he did his first podcast ever with me,
• 59:08
  Speaker 3: And before I got up there, gen Z was asking,
• 59:11
  Speaker 3: I'm like, what are you going to do about internet access?
• 59:13
  Speaker 3: Make sure that we can have more access to data
• 59:16
  Speaker 3: because in Africa right now, they're not able to monetize
• 59:18
  Speaker 3: our social media. They don't have a way to tax
• 59:20
  Speaker 3: it and things of that nature, so they don't even
• 59:22
  Speaker 3: have the infrastructure set up for that whole.
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: Entire creator economy, economy.
• 59:26
  Speaker 3: But now the average age over there is nineteen years old.
• 59:29
  Speaker 3: So what's going to happen to the young people when
• 59:31
  Speaker 3: there's no opportunities, there's no jobs, They're going to revolt.
• 59:35
  Speaker 3: And that's going to put pressure on the government to say, Okay,
• 59:38
  Speaker 3: we'll take the deal with Elon, But you don't know
• 59:40
  Speaker 3: what comes along with that, right, because.
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: Now you're getting Elon's Internet with exactly.
• 59:46
  Speaker 3: And then the demoralization of your culture. Because once the
• 59:50
  Speaker 3: Internet culture really reaches and y'all got five G everywhere
• 59:53
  Speaker 3: and you monetizing, right, our current becomes their future. So
• 59:57
  Speaker 3: if you're not putting things in place when it comes
• 59:59
  Speaker 3: to AI, make sure we have trusted models, make sure
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 3: they learn how to run their own local models and
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 3: things of that nature. Then you have all of these
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 3: mechanisms in control. That's going to be a level of
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 3: colonization that they never even understood before. So I went
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 3: to the United Nations in Ghana because they was doing
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 3: their AI adoption out there, and I talked to some
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 3: of their top scientists and as I give them a
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 3: breakdown about collgnitive warfare, they did not have an understanding
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 3: of that right and hopefully some of them see some
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 3: of this right now. And that's kind of why I'm
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 3: passionate about it, because I see the next redlining here
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 3: for us, and I see the next digital neo colonialism
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 3: that happens through AI and it looks like advancement, but
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 3: it's a trojan horse. When Elon Musk bought Twitter, he
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 3: became a trillionaire because I look at it like this,
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 3: and we own these platforms.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: And he became an influencer.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 3: CEO Tesla was going up thousands of dollars up to
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 3: like five thousand dollars, and it wasn't a logical reason
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 3: in my opinion, right, but it was because he was
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 3: using the algorithm to push those coin He was pushing bitcoin,
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 3: he was pushing crypto, and he like.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: Wait a minute.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 3: I can tweet out things and move markets, but when
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 3: you are somebody that understands systems, you say, Okay, what's
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 3: the real value here? If my stock is not going
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 3: up for earnings, My stock is not going up for
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 3: something I'm doing, it's because I am using this social
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 3: media platform.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: So attention is the most valuable thing.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 3: So let me just buy instead of being a passenger, right,
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 3: let me buy the whole vehicle. And when I think
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 3: he bought Twitter at a time where everybody was saying
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 3: forty four billion dollars was a bad deal. He understood
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 3: that no attention is the only thing that would matter
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 3: in the future.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: Best buy. Ever, so if I buy this, yeah, then
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: I can become a trillionaire.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: And he did, you control the You control the you know,
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: I think people don't understand like stocks are, they're they're
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: sold on sentiment. Yeah, public sentiments like like obviously like yeah,
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: profitability all that.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: But there's a reason why, you know, Navidia earnings will
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: come out and it'll be great, and then the day
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: that they drop, the fucking stock drops because people take
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: their people take their profits, right, And.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 3: There's multiple factors that go into that public sentiment and
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 3: how it was affected.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: What do you think about I saw you say, uh
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: uh SpaceX, I po there's new money in the streets.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: Obviously it's I think it's around two tovering around two hundred.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: I want to say it came up. Was it a
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: buck fifty had a top number? But what are your
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: thoughts on like SpaceX and JA. I mean, obviously I
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: think Elon I want to say he has a deal
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: that further incentivizes him to make more money because I
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: think his exit deal that he signed with Tesla was
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: he had to I think his portion had to be
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: like a trillion dollars or something just to get out
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: of Tesla. Did you see that that was like earlier
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: this year. Yeah, So now they're SpaceX. I do think
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: it's Starlink is probably like the most valuable of all
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: of these companies if you really think about, like how
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: the scalability of it. But what do you think about
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: SpaceX as an investment just in general?
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 3: Like, well, it's going up because I think only four
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 3: percent is being traded right now, right, the rest is
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 3: still locked up. So everybody like a factory when I
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 3: was around the table when they got a allocation towards
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 3: SpaceX early, right, so people that was in factory club
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 3: was able to invest in SpaceX before it goes to market. Wow, Right,
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 3: So that investment and a lot of people don't get
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 3: into what they call alpha deals or private deals, right,
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 3: which is what real money is made in the private markets.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 3: But if we're looking at the public markets, were looking
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 3: at retail traders are looking at four percent of Tesla
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 3: stock or SpaceX stock being traded. The rest is locked
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 3: up for whatever period that Eline has said.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: I forget how much it was.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 3: But you're then going to see people start selling some
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 3: of that because right now they may be aper billionaires,
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 3: paper wants sending to millionaires, but they want to go
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 3: buy cars, They want to go goddamn buy yachts, and
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 3: they want to go then and go invest in companies
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 3: that they believe in that they probably are already writing
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 3: checks too, exactly, And that's when you're going to see
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 3: movement within the stock right. And but at the same time,
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 3: I think that we're in untold territories just as far
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 3: as where the world is right now, right, and the
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 3: moves that Elin is going to be making, and how
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 3: he's leveraging whatever this SpaceX thing is. You got to
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 3: remember his dream was to create an everything company X, right,
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 3: and he's packaging all of these companies up.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 2: The question becomes is it too big to fill? Right?
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 3: Like if Elon must died today, what would happen with SpaceX?
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 3: You know, because the company is heavily dependent upon him.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 3: But then the question that I think is greater is
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 3: anytime you have a massive wealth event like this, it
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 3: lets you know the direction of where wealth is going, right, robotics, AI, tech, space,
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 3: because the rest of the wealth is you know, looking
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 3: at this is what works, this is what has worked.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 3: Now how do we get similar same results as well?
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 3: People don't want him to be the only trillionaire, you
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 3: know what I'm saying.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: It's funny because now that he's kind of kicked that
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: door down. Yeah, there's gonna be another, I would say
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: in the next five years, will be another one. Yeah.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 3: I think that we're entering into untold territories and I
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 3: think that people have to be willing to open their
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 3: imagination up. Sometimes you can use cycles, right, So some
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 3: people will look at the fundamentals of the company. The
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 3: company has no earning. So you already got a company
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 3: that's trading one hundred times multiple with no earnings. You
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 3: got a trillion dollar, goddamn trillionaire with no earnings from space.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: Yes, for sure, it's an idea. I mean, obviously it's
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: a company, but it's it's the proof of concept that
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: is very selfmading. Rockets and all that. I don't care
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: about them, you know what I'm saying.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 3: But the reality of it is is that I think
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 3: that you are looking at a new playbook. You're looking
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 3: at a completely new world, and you have to be
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 3: willing to open your mind to even understand that some
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 3: of the previous cycles you can't use to address what
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 3: this current cycle is.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: Crazy things can happen.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 3: People weren't looking at bitcoin as it would have ever
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 3: gotten to where it is, around with sixty thousand, then
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 3: it got up to one hundred and twenty thousands. They
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 3: thought that was impossible because everything that they had in
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 3: the textbook that told them that it wasn't going to work,
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 3: they were using and they were wrong. Right, All coins
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 3: they went up skyrocket made people all kind of millions.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 3: People never seen them kind of returns. Next thing, you know,
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 3: you start seeing the stock market perform like the crypto market. Right,
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 3: the question becomes is will the stark Is there going
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 3: to be a stock that's a bitcoin?
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 3: If there's the closest one to it, maybe specsc a
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 3: space X. But then how long can the market sustain
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 3: not being connected to reality?
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because it's right now it's sentiment strictly sentiment and vibes.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 3: Right, buzz, And then you got the new markets that's
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 3: going to be coming. Of course, all of this longevity
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 3: and health and biotech sciences, and then you got quantum, right,
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 3: and so I think that the word's gonna as things
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 3: are progressing.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: Quantum computing for people who don't know, is like it's
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: supposed to be the I mean, I want to say,
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: is China ahead of us on the quantum computing?
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 3: You got China, you got Israel's doing some stuff in quantum,
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 3: Chryinga doing stuff with fusion and quantum. But then you
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 3: got Microsoft, you got all these different companies that say
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 3: in quantum quantum is still it's like a world race
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 3: right now.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: Right, it's still very much infatile.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 3: Because in video is like compressing all of the requirement
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 3: of having so much data and putting it in these
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 3: small chips.
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: It's gonna get to a point where you can.
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 3: Run these small you can run a full AI model
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 3: on your computer. Right that what if let's say it
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 3: took a whole multiple computers to run. It's where everybody's
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 3: gonna get the Mac minis.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: To run AI agents.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 3: Well, it gets to a point where you can run
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 3: that on your computer and everybody has a personal AI agent.
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 3: But then it's gonna get to a point where when
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 3: you can connect them to quantum plus AI, then you're
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 3: going to go into security, because how do you it's
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 3: at the point where quantum gonna be able to crack
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 3: the bitcoin, right, how you're going to be able to
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 3: secure anything?
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 3: So there are some cryptos even stocks out there that's
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 3: thinking about solving this problem. But I don't think it's
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 3: fully solved until really the threat becomes right imminent, because
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 3: these AI are already good at doing it right without
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 3: them being connected to that quantum side. So I think
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 3: we go go into a real sci fi type world,
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, And I don't think nobody
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 3: owns the future.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: Do you still think the video's underpriced? No?
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 3: I think though the video may be misunderstood. Still, Like
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 3: the way they're creating chips is they're using AI to
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 3: create chips at such a small level, right, Like they
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 3: got the laser lithography, they got these small where they
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 3: it's almost like they're doing engineering science on sales the
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 3: way they're creating chips, right. And I think all of
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 3: AI and a lot of this tech in the future
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 3: has the black box problem where they know the outcome
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 3: it can produce, but they don't.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: Know how it's actually working, right, and these.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: Companies are like that.
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 3: But the question ain't even really like that company has
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 3: already the trallion dollar company.
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I'm talking about the stock like I
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: wonder if Yeah, Like I just think like, there's so
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: many of these, like you know, there's like AMD, there's Micron,
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: And I feel like if every time I think, like, okay,
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: do I sell, it'll go back down to like a
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: buck ninety a buck eighty. I tell you, the real
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: come up was when it was like ninety two bucks
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: last year.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but I think that again, this is just me.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 3: This is an opinion more than anything. But when I
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 3: look at stock prices right now, right when you have
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 3: a trillionaire, the gap between the poorest person and the
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 3: richest person.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: Right has changed, never.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 3: Been so even from the gap between again Jeff Bezos
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 3: and Eli Muss, is this huge gap that has to
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 3: be filled, right, and people now the trajectory is how
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 3: do we fill that gap from the richest because now
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 3: capitalism has a new mark, right, And I think we're
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 3: going and to get a crazy ass world that comes
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 3: out of that pursuit and ambition to become the next trillionaire,
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 3: right and companies to become ten trillion dollar companies and
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 3: one hundred trillion dollar companies. Then when you ask, what
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 3: are stock prices anymore? These are empires that you invested in.
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 3: These are not companies.
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: Who what companies would you bet on to become those
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: those trillion dollar companies?
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 3: Some of them may not even be on the radar yet.
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 3: But I would just say the ones that, well, all
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 3: you say trillion dollar company.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: Well you say, you said they already exist.
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 2: The trillion dollar.
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: Companies exist, tenion, is what you said.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 3: I would look at the ones that's already trillion dollar companies,
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean?
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: Like they're only going to get more powerful.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 2: Because they just buy up everything, right, Like Elon just
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 2: bought a company under SpaceX. Right when you got a
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 2: trillion dollars, you got all the leverage in the world,
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 2: you got infinite money. So they're too big to fail
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 2: at this point because you invent something that could be
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 2: competitive to that and they just buy you out. There's
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 2: a patent that just popped up somewhere. They just bought
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 2: that patent that would have took their company out.
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 3: Right, Once you become these empires again, fuck companies. These
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 3: are empires. Right, These are huge techno feudalism empires, and
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 3: we keep treating them like they companies because we invested
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 3: in them as if this is still just a regular
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 3: stock market.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: It's like a much larger scale of what Amazon's been
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: doing to like small sellers on their site for years.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: Like Amazon will see like a small seller with like
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: a product that works, and they'll just it'll be getting
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: sold on their site and then they'll just steal it
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: and make it.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and they will do a documentary in an interview
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 3: about it. Because when you do something like that and
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 3: the people behind this one people know they.
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: Did it, like, yeah, I did it. Maybe not the
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: best thing for the world, but I did it.
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Right, But who cares because what you're gonna do
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 3: that documentary comes out, nothing changes, Amazon gets bigger.
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: What are your thoughts. I've been seeing jay Z get
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: some negative feedback, which I thought I thought was a
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: little unfair for doing an exclusive to drop a Target,
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: which I feel like every rapper does. I got a
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: Kendrick exclusive vinyl from Target. Yeah yeah, But I mean,
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: I guess do you feel like a guy like jay
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: Z has like a greater responsibility to the cause if
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: you will or I think it's interesting.
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 3: I've been kind of marinate on that one because I
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 3: didn't know j cole Or and Kendrick had did the
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 3: Target exclusive stuff during the boycott. Right, I'm with any boycott.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 3: That's kind of how I meant you feel me, Like,
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 3: if we want to boycott anybody that does something negative
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 3: to the black community, and black community says if we
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 3: boycotting them, I don't even need to know the reason why,
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 3: for real, I'm just with it.
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you feel me?
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 3: And so jay Z is a capitalist. I don't think
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 3: he's ever made apologies for being a capitalist. And I
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 3: think the problem is is that we keep trying to
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 3: put people in categories right that they're not in. Jay
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 3: Z is not some person that's that's that's sacrificing money
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 3: for moros.
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: He says that I'm a billionaire. I'm a businessman. You
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: understand me.
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 3: He is a Black Republican. He is a billionaire, and
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 3: he uses that as his moniker for his identity of
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 3: who he is. Right, he tells people, y'all looking at
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 3: the wrong charts. Don't look at me as a black
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 3: man and a rapper, look at me as a capitalist. Billionaire.
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 3: So if you're judging those moves for him, he's being
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 3: successful because he's making the moves that is aligned with
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 3: the identity that he has said, that's the one that's
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 3: most important to him.
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: He's doing the billionaires. Yeah, so when people tell you
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: who they are, believe him.
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 3: I think that the people keep getting like, it's just
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 3: weird that we act surprised every time something happened.
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: Right, he put Kendrick Lamar on the super Bowl.
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 3: We love the super Bowl, but then we had a conversation.
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 3: We hate the fact that jay Z is the one
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 3: that's heading it because of the thing that happened with Kaepernick.
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 3: But then Kaepernick took the easy ride out and when
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 3: it got a check too.
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. So again, I think.
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 3: A lot of it that the outrage be fake, the
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 3: strategies be ineffective, and the people are disorganized, right, and
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 3: so a lot of this stuff just don't matter, right,
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 3: Like what jay Z is doing. If you're supporting it, right,
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 3: then it matters. If you're not supporting it, go about
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 3: your day. Stop giving everything more attention.
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 1: It only helps. Not everything needs to be a thing,
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 1: because there's so many things that should be a thing.
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there was people that didn't know that jay Z
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 3: was dropping that target thing that are fans of jay Z,
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 3: and then when.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 2: They seen it, Oh, thank you for letting me know.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 2: Now I'm gonna go by it.
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: Hey, I'm one of those guys.
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 3: You gotta understand the way attention work. That's why, like
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 3: some things, I just don't talk about it at all
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 3: unless I want to bring attention to it.
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I feel like there's so much shit to be
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: outraged about in the world today that like, Yo, man,
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 1: let's just talk about like how many kids died in
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 1: levinon this week, you know what I'm saying, Like, or
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: just by what we organize in the building. Yeah, you
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 1: know what I mean, keep on bringing up the Epstein file. Please.
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 3: The world is not all negative, right, right, And if
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 3: we do that, we become nihilistic. We burnt out from
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 3: hope of the future, right, And I think that that's dangerous.
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 3: I don't think it's like online we like to shame
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 3: people to try to get them to change psychologically, we
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 3: learn that that doesn't work. It gets people to do
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 3: the opposite. They start defending the person who they are right,
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 3: And so we have these tactics, and we think that
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 3: they're beneficial and effective, and a lot of times they
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 3: have the opposite effect. So my frustration is, you know,
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 3: the movement that doesn't actually have real direction to it,
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 3: And anytime somebody positions themselves as a so called voice
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 3: or a leader, they will be attacked as well. So
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 3: then you reposition to figure out what's the best strategy
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 3: to be the most effective. Most of the work I'm
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 3: doing right now behind the scenes, right, I'm not even
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 3: putting it out there right because who cares. I don't
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 3: need no more followers. I don't even want no more followers.
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 3: If you've been locked in with me over the last
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 3: ten years, was enough time to discover me, you understand me?
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 3: I'm sureut and found the people I'm suposed to fellowship with.
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 3: Those are the people I want to build with. In
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 3: my phone up probably got billions of dollars in it.
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 3: I need to figure out how to organize that. I
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 3: need trying to think about meaningful movements that create real
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 3: impact and institutions that can last over time. When I
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 3: announce something, I'm announcing it because it's already real. I'm
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 3: not waiting for nothing, you know, I mean anybody that
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 3: wants to support me and invest in what I'm doing
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 3: and have done cool we align what goes into the world.
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 3: The only reason I'm talking about the world is so
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 3: I can monetize off of it and get more resources
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 3: into what I'm doing. But I wholly believe that ninety
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 3: nine percent of the conversations we have on an Internet
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 3: that is ninety percent ran by robots is meaningless.
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 1: That's that's the real shit. What is your perspective on
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 1: Zoramandannie who's obviously seemingly having a pretty a pretty successful
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 1: Issalama Lakam.
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Mom, Donnie. You know what
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 2: I'm saying.
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 1: I'm glad they got their first Muslim yugandin president and
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 1: like in New York been win and maybe like the
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: first real success case for like a democratic socialist.
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm say, y'all should have been put
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 2: a Muslim up there, That's all I'm gonna say.
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying here an African Muslims such.
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 1: I like anything that pissed people off.
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 3: Mat when the pissed them people off, man, I'll be
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 3: fod when I seen them called Michelle Obama man, Oh,
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 3: y'all don't like Michelle Obama?
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 1: What then I do like her? You know what I mean.
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 2: I'm anti with y'all, Auntie, you feel me like, Oh,
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 2: I'm pro with y'all antie like, that's that's how I am.
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 3: If the enemy don't like it, then I'm rocking with you.
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 3: But if you favored by the enemy, didn't fuck you,
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 3: you understand me? And Mom, Donny, I think you know,
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 3: you can't get to a point where you just want
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 3: to overcriticize and look at every detailed little politician to
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 3: figure out why something doesn't work. You know, Meaningful movements,
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 3: most of the time are connected politically, right, Testling figure,
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 3: I always talk about organized, and I believe in organized,
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 3: and there's a lot of people that's doing meaningful things.
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 3: And I say, let the thing play out, because what
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 3: you get with people like him is somebody that's willing
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 3: to do the thing that everybody else wouldn't do.
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I think it's important that it works because it
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 1: can show the like if it can work in New York, Yeah,
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 1: it can work.
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 3: Just hold them to fire, that's all. Once somebody is elected,
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 3: that's not the time to be their friend. Yeah, that's
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 3: the time to hold them to their word.
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 1: Like like we were talking a little bit about the
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: LA mayoral race and it got to the I mean,
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 1: obviously now it's Nithie Rahman and Karen Bass, but it
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 1: looked like it was gonna be Spencer Pratt and yeah, yeah,
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 1: but it's like there's like as as awesome as New
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 1: York feels from far away. Yeah, LA feels hopefully, But.
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 3: I like, I just LA, ain't we ain't we ain't
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 3: dissatisfied enough in California with that kind of change, like
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 3: keeping uncomfortable, no, no, no, even with you know, I
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 3: would say you should be, but New York has been
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 3: through so much, you understand me, And so that dissatisfaction
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 3: level rang to a fever pitch the same way America
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 3: did to get Obama and Donald Trump.
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 1: Trump is a result of that. Yeah, whatever you want
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 1: to say. Trump is a result of that.
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 3: But when you got somebody that understands social media, they
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 3: understand the pain points of the.
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 1: People, they can speak to that directly. Right.
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 3: They can also be anti Zionists, right, and then they
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 3: can be unapologetic about that, and they're not taking all
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 3: of the money from the institutional machine while it's still.
• 1:19:20
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  Speaker 1: Let's get back to the podcast. Do you feel like
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 1: because it even like six months ago, nine months ago,
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 1: the idea of being like publicly anti Zionist. Yeah, I
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 1: mean listen by the day, it's becoming more and more
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 1: like it's a badge of honor today. Correct, But like
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 1: even two years ago, it's like the I mean, if
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 1: you think back to like what they try to do
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 1: with Kyrie and shit, I mean, obviously Kanye had a
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 1: very uh troublesome way of communicating his thoughts in regards
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 1: to he should have just wrapped it the first time
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 1: I mean that they but you know, if bank account
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 1: got fucking deleted as well, I'll try to get to
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 1: But but nonetheless he's back now, right right now, Like
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 1: I think, you know this, the Zionist propaganda has kind
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 1: of like run its course for a huge faction of
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 1: our population. And you know, I think it's a good thing. Yeah,
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 1: I think. I don't think you can run on the
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 1: left and have a serious chance and be pro Israel.
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 3: No, I mean, but that's the thing that people have tried,
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 3: and that's why out of the Democrats have loss, right,
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 3: they try to.
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 1: Toe that line. What's the one lady, the black lady,
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 1: Corey Bush that lost are you talking about in Texas? Yeah,
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 1: Jack Crockett, Jasamin Crockett.
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 2: She tried to run on that, you understand me, and
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 2: then she supported.
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 1: The guy who was running against Cory Bush Wesley. And
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 1: here's the thing.
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 3: It can't just be vaguely that I ain't taking money
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 3: from them. It's like you have to be proactively against it.
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 3: The people want to see you take a clear moral stance,
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 3: show us what it shouldn't be an ambiguous answer. Oh
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 3: I didn't say this, I said that they took it wrong. No,
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 3: give us a clear moral stamp. So are you either
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 3: with us or them? Let me tell you, man, people
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 3: don't have time for ambiguity and ambiguity and people don't have.
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 1: Time for nuance. They want to know everything is black
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 1: and white.
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 2: It's good and evil, you're good and evil?
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 1: Who you with? Right? And maybe it's never that simple.
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 3: Ever, It literally is never that simple, because sometimes you
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 3: want to think about what is the best move to
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 3: make right, And so you are weighing evil people to
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 3: figure out how you can get the best.
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 1: Out and because you're always, unfortunately in America, gonna vote
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 1: for the lester of two years.
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but these people have been bought a long time ago, right,
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 3: And so I think that you have to realize that.
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 1: These people are bought paid.
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 3: And until you buy your own politicians and put them
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 3: into position, right, you still are dealing with puppets that's
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 3: on strings that you don't hold. That's the way I
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 3: look at them, you know what I mean? And you
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 3: might I've been saying these things early now that people
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 3: get to see it, and I just sit back like
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 3: Farcon does and smele that it.
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like if you look at like, uh, this
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 1: Peter til like group that is compiled. You see, Oh,
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 1: there really is no difference between Corey Booker and JD. Vance.
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 1: They just bicker on identity politics. They throw the football
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 1: over there while you're looking. Meanwhile, they're over here aligned
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 1: on all the real shit.
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 2: Oh man, listen, going to the same good old boys
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 2: money a lot.
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 3: It's because the problem is is that we keep looking
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 3: at it as a political issue, race issue, and it's
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 3: always gonna be a.
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 1: Class It's a class issue one hundred percent.
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 3: And when you can get people to steer away from
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 3: class warfare, that you can control them, right, you can
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 3: throw in all of the conspiracies that you want to.
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 3: But the simplification of it is looking at it as.
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 1: A class issue. Right.
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 3: It is the reason why white was created. It is
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 3: the reason why you wanted to separate them from black people.
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 3: I need you to see yourself as racial classes, right,
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 3: not wealth classes, because when moment it becomes the people
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 3: against the empire, moment it becomes the poor against the wealthy, right,
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 3: you're going to have way more people that are poorer
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 3: than are wealthy because the moment that we start talking
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 3: about that most of the wealth is concentrated in a
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 3: one percent of the ten percent. That means another ninety
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 3: percent should be aligned.
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 1: Because if you get that other ninety percent together right,
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 1: so it'd be in theory a lot.
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 3: It'd be very easy to the empire wins when the
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 3: people fueled. So as long as we can keep the
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 3: people divided, whatever way we need to do that, right,
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 3: whether that's actually taking controlled opposition, not people that we
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 3: actually created, but we might want to boost this platform
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 3: to keep these sides distracting and fighting each other so
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 3: that no fighting us. Right, you gotta simplify the problem
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 3: with people.
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 1: What are your thoughts? I saw you had a moment
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 1: with the little dude. Don't even say that little do
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 1: the trans bruh, But what are your thoughts there? Is
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 1: like I saw what you had said to the trans
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 1: bra and uh, there you kind of sol over the
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 1: last like eight years a certain level of like African
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 1: American maga people who realized it was good for their pockets,
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 1: so they just continue to dig into the grift. And
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 1: I've never seen somebody in such an eloquent way kind
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 1: of like just melt somebody with kindness.
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you know, I went to the the hike
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 2: and I got a symbol right in this Sunday.
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and the little guy I guess was a fan
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 1: or however you want to put it.
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 3: And I'm I'm interrogating to see how he thinks, because
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 3: he asking me questions.
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 2: And then as I.
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 3: Listened to him, he's telling me that the people he
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 3: look up to, his mount Rushmore of aspiration, is Izi
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 3: Osborne and Donald Trump. So I say, is there not
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 3: a black man in your mind that you look up
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 3: to and inspire to be?
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 1: Like?
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 3: He said, no, just myself. That's the problem, right, Like
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 3: you don't even have not a single person that looks
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 3: like you that you look up to. So that's when
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 3: I was kind of done with the conversation in the
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 3: first place. And then he pulls out the phone and
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 3: I'm like, after everything that you just told about me,
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 3: are you outside for these people? We're not about to
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 3: have this moment on the internet like we cool, you
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 3: understand me? And that's when I start calling him out.
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 3: For me, that's a simple moment in time, right, That's
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 3: how I deal with anybody that's like that. Like I
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 3: grew up in such the opposite environment, right, a black
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 3: Muslim environment nation in Islam. Oaken California as a soldier
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 3: that was taught that I'm a god and that we
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 3: got to deal with being in the devil's world until
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 3: we can take over, right.
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 2: And so in the deepness of my mind, that's me
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 2: and who I am.
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 3: And then I see a young man like that, who
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 3: I think is caught up in this space to where
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 3: he's lost his identity. He does not have a place,
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 3: and in these groups, all it is I don't even
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 3: look at MiG I just look at people trying to
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 3: find belonging inside these identity groups, right, And so these
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 3: are people that are most likely vulnerable, insecure, right, impoverished, right,
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 3: stressed out. We have the loneliest generation of young men
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 3: today committing the highest rate of suicide, and they're going
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 3: through a sexual recession.
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 3: They're not having experiences where they're talking with women, they're
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 3: not going to face to face events. They're stuck on
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 3: the algorithm, and they're homosocial. And so the problem is
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 3: if you're looking at it, I'm not looking at him
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 3: for who he is. All I see is the way
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 3: his mind works and why he's connected to that, right,
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 3: And I can understand that, right, For when I understand
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 3: something then I'm gonna treat you accordingly. You're a victim, right,
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 3: and because attention is the drug that everybody wants, you
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 3: would do anything for it. It's your crack.
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 1: So whether it makes you look good or bad, you
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 1: will still upload a video and it makes you look
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 1: like an idiot. Yeah, like why why would you have
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 1: that moment with you right, and be like all right,
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna share this with everybody because attention is the drug.
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 1: Niggas are streaming and making themselves look foolish.
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 3: But here's the thing that even if somebody criticizes you,
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 3: people will forget down there two days from now and
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 3: you get a clean slate to start over. People are
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 3: looking at who has the attention here. Theer can walk
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 3: down the street if he's social media famous, people want
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 3: to take selfies with him because he has attention, and
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 3: they feel like, well, if you got attention, then I
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 3: can get attention, and then I can convert that because
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 3: everybody is poor and suffering.
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we've seen like every six seven months there's like
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 1: a new streamer and like obviously now it's a dean
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 1: and abuh and I just want it. It's all I
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 1: see on my fucking phone is Adrian Browner and Dean
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 1: the greats. Yeah, And I didn't know Dean the Great
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 1: was before he got fucking yeah hit by the broom. Yeah,
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 1: and now he's like, you know, let's let's go back
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 1: to this.
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 2: When Leo lil Bee got slapped off the couch, he
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 2: became base god.
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 3: He built up a whole cult after that. Right, that
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 3: was the early signal of the future.
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 1: He was very ahead of his time.
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 3: And and it's the same thing now. He converted that
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 3: into something that became court like and positive. But you know,
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 3: he got a lot of white fans. He ain't become
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 3: like at that time. He ain't become like super famous
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 3: in the black community that following, but he became a
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 3: super cult following. Those are as a future. As I
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 3: look at those signals, it's signals what the future is.
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 2: Going to be. Now we at that point in time
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 2: where anybody can get.
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 3: Slapped and get famous. Guy slap, I still don't know
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 3: who he is. That victory slap that was just for Nipsey.
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 1: I do feel like the I R L streaming economy
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 1: is it's like it's it's just becoming like everyone is
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 1: is living there. They gave bait. They act gave for money.
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 1: I don't know if they really are, but you know,
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 1: I feel like they're just living life for like clippable moments. Yeah.
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 1: So it's like if I'm walking down the street and
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 1: I see it, dude, I might try to like fuck
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 1: with this dude, Yeah, just to get a reaction. Yeah,
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 1: I know someone's gonna clip it. Like you wouldn't if
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 1: the cameras are running, you wouldn't do that.
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 3: I was talking with Symbol yesterday. Then he say, what
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 3: what what ray J said to go raping for a clip?
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, ray J's on a sick one right now,
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying.
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 3: It's like, sure, well, at this point where what you
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 3: think is being a man has been totally thrown out
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 3: and a person, we are in late States capitalism, where
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 3: your manhood is.
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 2: Completely up for sale. Now at a time when we
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 2: would be like, that's selling your soul, they are happily
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 2: saying I will sell my soul for some more.
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 1: Popular more than ever because yeah, because because twelve year
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 1: old white kids fuck with him now.
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, So this is this is like an idiocracy at
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 3: this point, right, and this is all of these industries
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 3: can be turned into something good, like we can use
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 3: the streaming and you've probably yet to see somebody like
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 3: me in the streaming ever. But companies are doing this
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 3: now where they want to have educational streams. They want
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 3: to figure out how do we convert this because it's
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 3: not sustainable.
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 1: It's I like Speed. I feel like Speed does like, oh,
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 1: Speed got it very very like. I never see him
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 1: stepping out and I didn't watch Speed, you know, seven
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 1: eight years ago. Yeah, he was wilding back then, but
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 1: but I think like he's pretty dialed in, like and
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 1: it feels like he's moving like he just seems like
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 1: a very yeah.
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 3: Well see, dude, a lot of them are where Speed
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 3: was at when he first started right franking people and
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 3: knocking on doors and wilding out. Speed became refined. He
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 3: started learning off his mistakes and he started growing right.
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 3: And so I see this a lot of times when
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 3: people are early on their journey. And this is why
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 3: I kind of give people grace to evolve and mature
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 3: and shallah. But not everybody does. But you have to
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 3: give people grace because sometimes God can use them for
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 3: something bigger. If people wanted to cancel Speed right early on,
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 3: he would not being able to do the great things
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 3: that he's doing.
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 1: Right here is I feel like he's poured down so
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 1: much propaganda.
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 3: I've been going to Africa since twenty nineteen, i'dn't been
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 3: through all the different countries. And no matter how much
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 3: I went to Africa, I had podcasts in South Africa.
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 3: The tallest building in Africa in twenty nineteen built bridging
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 3: the gap. But it peels in comparison to what I've
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 3: done in the last like eight nine years. To see
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 3: in Speed take that in one trip all across the continent.
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 3: But what he does is Speed is somebody that is
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 3: he's like an anime character.
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 2: You understand me.
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 3: He's showing the adventure of a young man, and he's
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 3: treating everybody, whether they are an emperor, to a politician,
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 3: or whether it's a somebody in the marketplace. He's treating
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 3: everybody with respect and love and energy. Right, and then
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 3: he's showing these spaces that traditional media is not showing.
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 3: He's a representation of independent media right in a new
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 3: form of it. But that's harder to replicate, so people
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 3: look at that as an outlier, right, and Speed also
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 3: has a level of consciousness. He's very anti Zionist, you
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 3: know what I mean, telling somebody ask him little bout Israel,
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 3: you feel me, and he like that question just did
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 3: not exist. He exit that conversation fast, shout out, yeah,
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 3: he's catching me.
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 1: But he's intelligent.
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 3: You can see a man thinking in the moment and
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 3: shout out to Shaka Bars that's been working with him
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 3: setting up that tour.
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 1: It's about the people you have around you. Yeah. I
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 1: think Speed did such a good job on his world
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 1: tour stream thing of just like even when he was
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 1: in China, for better for worse, because he also kind
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 1: of showed everybody.
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 2: Like, yeah, motherfuckers and China a little racist, oh a
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 2: lot of racist Chinese a lot of and shout out
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 2: to Chinese people need how but what happens is is
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 2: like a lot of Chinese people take the narratives that
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 2: they get in media and they believe them wholesale.
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 1: For sure, and they also don't have black people there
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 1: like yeah, yeah. But but on the other side, he
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 1: also showed like China is kind of the ship compared
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 1: to the US. Technically, technically they are yeah, ahead of
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 1: us in terms of infrastructure and how they sure that.
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 3: The money you know, well, all we get is Western
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 3: media on China, and all they get is Western media
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 3: on us. Right, So average Chinese person ain't gonna know
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 3: who to hell Malcolm X is, you know what I mean.
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 3: They ain't gonna know none of our black leaders, but
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 3: they will know all black rappers, right, are entertainers.
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 1: So therefore that's the image and picture that they have
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 1: of you. It's a character of.
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 2: The lowest common denominator, right, not the highest self.
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 1: It's almost racism from like a space of naiveness.
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 3: I used to work with a lot of Chinese people,
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 3: and they seemingly really cool ass people, right, like we
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 3: friends with good people. Then when you talk to them
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 3: and you understand they beliefs, and they're gonna ask you
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 3: some crazy, wild shit like do all black people eat
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 3: fried chicken?
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 2: Y'all be eating the watermelons?
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 3: Hunt and to them straight up to them, it's not race,
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 3: it's not it's what they really think is true. And
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 3: so you really understand, like, ah, like you take holds
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 3: there's no critical thinking on the analysis of the stereotypes
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 3: that you receive.
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 1: You take Western media as truth. It's almost like a
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 1: certain level of like Americans in the seventies or eighties,
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 1: might ask somebody from Japan if they know karate. Yeah,
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean? You know karate? Yeah, like
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean? I thought you was jedly
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 1: right or what It's interesting?
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, But you know, I think that that's where
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 3: independent media has to become stronger, if we can't control
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 3: the narratives that are presented to the world about.
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 1: Who we are, right.
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 3: And the other thing is that we're all living in
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 3: our own bubbles. I think I heard who is that
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 3: giving this breakdown on? Like now that you have hits
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 3: out there, right, there's no universal hits like when we
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 3: was younger. You are Jenny in the Bottle from Britney Spears, right,
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 3: no matter what. Yeah, Now I never hear Teryler Swift song.
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't know a single.
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 1: One sad, right, So we're like a Morgan Wallen song.
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 2: I don't even know who that is.
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 1: You know, Morgan Walling I don't know. He just stadiums.
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 1: That's fine. He's got records with Dirk Amazing.
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 2: Maybe if I heard it, but it's a country artist,
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 2: that's why. Yeah, you know, but to that point, you.
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 3: Could be as big as you possibly can, but we're
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 3: all living in our own little worlds and bubbles like
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 3: algorithm is controlling the.
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 1: Most unique example for me because I have no fucking
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 1: idea yeah about bts or any of those.
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's behind the scenes.
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 1: It is a thing that you're just like, oh, there's
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 1: just there's just a whole other yeah world that you know,
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 1: and I'm not about to so you know, I get it.
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 3: We're all in our own worlds and we're not We
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 3: don't even have enough person aspective of each other to
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 3: create a half empathy. I watched that movie Disclosure, and
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 3: I think one of the greatest lines in it was
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 3: talking about how the aliens, you know, it's Spielberg movie,
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 3: but it was talking about empathy being and biological evolutionary
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 3: biological advantage, right that human beings have, right, But most
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 3: of us don't have empathy anymore, right, Like we don't
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 3: really drop in and really speak to the person that's
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 3: in front of us. We're all talking at each other,
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 3: we're all.
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 1: Trying to make points. We're not conversing anymore.
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 2: We're not having dialogues, we're having battles, we're having debates,
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 2: We're reacting to everything.
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 3: We're not really thinking about this human being and their
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 3: life and who they are, right, and we feel that
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 3: lack of empathy everywhere we go, right, and without having
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 3: that empathy to where somebody can see you for you, right,
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 3: you always alone, no matter how many people are in
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 3: the room. And I believe that's what's happening with this
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 3: current generation. They're being sing but they ain't really being
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 3: seen right, and so people might like them, but they
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 3: don't love them. You might get likes and comments, but
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 3: you ain't gonna getting on real love in real life.
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 3: And so there's a lack of intimacy, there's a lack
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 3: of empathy, and when of those human things disappear, that's
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 3: where you start to get people that's depressed.
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 1: I want to know your thoughts on a couple of albums.
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 2: Uh huh, Oh, I'm dropping an album.
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 1: You are dropping an album.
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 2: I don't know when this release, but it will be
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 2: out by time this release. It'll be out by the
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 2: time tomorrow. Drop tomorrow. Yeah.
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 3: I had already finished it about a year ago, and
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 3: I had sold you.
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 1: Sent me some like an untitled link. Yeah, yeah, that
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 1: was the album at the time, and you never never
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 1: listened to it. So what is uh so tell me
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 1: I listen to some of it. I think I listened
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 1: to the first song you said, okay first, But what
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 1: is when you say you sold it? You sold it
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 1: to like? So, yeah, I put it on the private market.
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 3: So we had a company that we work with called Unreleased, right,
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 3: So we did nice little five fit.
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 1: Figures and sales. You understand how that's fine?
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we did really good.
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 3: So and that's and I wasn't even like pushing it.
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 3: That's what I was, just just me pushing it behind
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 3: the scenes, and we were selling it in person as
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 3: well throughout the tour. So people buying the album for
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 3: one hundred dollars all throughout the tour. Wow, I mean
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 3: they get the small little plastic album, they tap it,
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 3: it's on their phone and it's only theirs.
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 1: Some people we use the whole Nipsey model.
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 3: Pay what you want, what you want, I mean people
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 3: paying two, three, four, five hundred dollars for the album, right.
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 3: So I wanted to do that first just for the
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 3: core base. And now I'm putting it on streaming platforms
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 3: just so that. Yes, yeah, but I think that everybody
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 3: should do that. I think go to your owned audience.
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 1: First, Yeah, I think there's a guy named Rock Marciano
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 1: who does a good job of that, who will drop
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 1: in like six months later, it'll be on DSPs. Yeah,
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 1: you know, I think that's a smart thing to do.
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 1: It's the best thing.
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 3: Owned audience is the audience you if the algorithm cuts off,
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 3: who do you have access to?
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 1: Thoughts on a month later, Iceman, I saw your tweets
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 1: when it dropped you kind of like your real time
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 1: tweets while listening. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I did a
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 1: full like breakdown of Iceman. Oh.
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 2: You know, I always got to go high level with stuff.
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 1: It's funny.
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 3: I'd be really just enjoying stuff for the listen, but
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 3: then by the time I talk about it on social
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 3: it's always this high level critique and stuff.
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 2: It's funny because now I feel.
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 3: Like it kind of it died down fast. I mean,
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 3: but that's the nature of social media. I first looked
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 3: at Iceman as him embracing you know, his white Ashka
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 3: Nazi Caucasian villain side, right there.
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 1: Was this listen, dad, listen.
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 3: Then I'm saying it's just from a truthful place my
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 3: perspective on it, and I did a much larger breakdown
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 3: but what is an iceman.
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 2: An iceman is somebody who has went.
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 3: Cold, you know, I mean they emotionally frozen. I ain't
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 3: got no more love for you you. I mean they
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 3: in survival mode. They want revenge, you know. I mean
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 3: they're closing borders and closing ranks. And hip hop has
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 3: historically always rewarded that iceman mentality. Fifty Cent came in
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 3: the game after he got shot. He went, Iceman, you
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 3: understand me, ain't no more warmth than my voice.
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 2: It's all cold.
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, right.
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 3: I feel like Drake was really vying for the culture
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 3: for a very long time, and then Kendrick came in
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 3: and gave him a very cold winter, and then he
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 3: embraced everything that was said about him and he put
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 3: that into album for him. Right, Okay, I'm not with
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 3: the culture, I'm not this that, and the third I'm
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 3: just for the money, all right, Well, I'm gonna be
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 3: the biggest in the money game, then you understand me.
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 3: And when I listened to it, I seen the man
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 3: that he also understands the game to where he gonna
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 3: put all of these names in so he can see
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 3: it all across the algorithm. But it also represents a
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 3: man who ain't letting nothing go. Understand me, like, I
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 3: want my revenge at all costs.
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 2: It's going to be a cold summer.
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 3: So the way I looked at it was there's this
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 3: book by this Canadian scholar that came out of nineteen
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 3: seventy eight, and it's called The Iceman Inheritance, and it
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 3: talks about this exact mentality that white people have when
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 3: from growing up in cold climates genetically that gives them
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 3: this disposition that everybody doesn't agree with the scholar and
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 3: whether it's true or not, But I think that there's
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 3: a lot of logic that comes into it, where it's
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 3: called cold cognition, right, it's very cold thinking. Where culture
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 3: is supposed to be warm, it's supposed to be summer,
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 3: supposed to be community, love, rhythm, spirituality, right, vibration. Iceman
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 3: is the complete opposite of all of that. He said, Listen,
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 3: I ain't trying to say that I'm the man of
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 3: the culture. I'm out here kissing white bitches in the mouth.
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 3: That's what he said. Understand me, Like, when I listen
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 3: to the lyrics, I listened to a man who is
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 3: in survival mode that went through probably the worst thing
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 3: that a human being can go through, which is a
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 3: humiliation ritual in front of the entire world two years.
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 2: I don't know what that's like that. I'm gonna be honest.
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 3: I give him his credit for being strong to be
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 3: able to go through that, because some people would have
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 3: committed suicide for something like that.
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 2: Right when we talk about.
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 3: Things that people go through that destroy them, like, that's
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 3: a hundred million times worse than what meat went through
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 3: when they was having their battle. So I can understand.
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 3: And that's why I'm not looking at it from even
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 3: like a hateful lens. I look at it from an
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 3: understanding like this is probably the mindset and the mentality
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 3: that anybody that went through that would have. But he
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 3: found a very strategic way to convert that into music
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 3: and to convert that into a favorable.
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 1: Outcome and get back outside. Yeah. My thing with it was,
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 1: once I got I guess kind of through my own
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 1: interpretation of essentially what you just said, it was like, okay,
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 1: Once I said, okay, I don't know what it's like
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 1: to be in someone's shoes who just went through with
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 1: this Kendrick thing. You know, super Bowl, Yeah, fucking stadium,
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 1: tour going to Toronto. Yeah, so it was like, okay once,
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 1: I because because my first listen was like, it's just
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 1: eighteen songs of like bitching. You know, it's like we
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 1: I saw and I don't want to I don't want
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 1: to take credit for the for the tweet, but I
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 1: saw a tweet where somebody said, like, Drake Drake's whole career,
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 1: he was rapping about women who broke his heart and
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 1: this was the only album he wrapped about a man
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 1: and broke his heart. Yes, really and uh and my
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 1: first listen met multiples. Yeah, I was like I just
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 1: couldn't get through that part. But then once I kind
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 1: of came to peace with like, Okay, this is the
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 1: theme of the album. Let me just appreciate the rapping
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 1: the songs. You know, it's it's It's in the top
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 1: half of his discography, and I thought, lyrically he was
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 1: the most potent. Yeah, I agree. I think he penharder
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 1: on this album than he did on any other album
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 1: because he kind of had to.
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 3: He's the way and Steve noticed the way I judge albums.
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 3: I thought, I'm done being biased.
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 1: I do the same thing.
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 3: I look at it as what did you intend to
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 3: do and did you do that?
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 1: Right? Because there's what you want from an album.
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 3: But then as an artist, you have to look at
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 3: whether they intended to do that, and I have to
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 3: judge the talent on whether they actually delivered. And I
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 3: think conceptually I didn't listen to the other two albums,
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 3: so I can't say nothing about them.
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 2: I like a BFT, but the Native Honors Speaking do.
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 2: I haven't listened to it, but as the listen to Iceman. Conceptually,
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 2: I think that he delivered on the concept perfectly.
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 1: What about an album that I think is aged with
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 1: every listen? What do you think about the fall off? J? Cole?
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 2: The Cole is not you know what?
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 1: Damn? Such a great album.
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 3: I think the album is good just for the album
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 3: to exist, right. It's not the again, it's not the
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 3: album I want it, right, But it's hard to say that.
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 3: I'm just super biased. I don't even know what I wanted.
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 3: But it wasn't my favorite album. But if I go
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 3: back and listen, I'm sure I would love it. Sometimes
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 3: you got to go back and listen outside the space
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 3: and when it's dropped and just listen to it for
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 3: the music itself, right, j Cole will always prove that
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 3: he is a phenomenal lyricist. He can make great songs,
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 3: he can put together concepts. I think what it is
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 3: with Jay Cole is that sometimes I give him credit
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 3: for more depth than he has right, and so I
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 3: end up wanting more than. I think it's unfair to
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 3: have an expectation of right, and so I think that
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 3: that creates a disappointment just from an expectation lens so.
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 3: But when I bring down that expectation and I just
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 3: listen to it, then I can enjoy it. But it
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 3: wasn't my favorite album. I think I like some of
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 3: his previous albums better, but I also just haven't given
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 3: it the time to go back and listen to it
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 3: outside of that bias.
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 1: Do you have a favorite album this year beside Drone?
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 3: Of course, besides my own? Let me see what Clumb's close,
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 3: what I've been listening to, because when I'm in a giant,
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 3: a lot be turning on me a lot. I was
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 3: just listening to some of that Yak understand Me, that
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 3: Kodak Black.
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 1: I like some of it.
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 3: I think a lot of it is vibes, feels like
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 3: he went he went in the studio, I listen to
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 3: the whole down, just listen to.
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 2: It on the way here, so I can't really give
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 2: I listened to that.
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 1: I think it's dope.
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 2: It's not my vibe.
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 3: It's different, different when I go through it because I
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 3: like Vin Staples so much that I'm trying to find
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 3: something that could be my vibe.
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 1: But I think that's what you like him, right.
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 3: I think that's a bad way to approach music for sure, right,
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 3: Like it should come natural to you. And so maybe
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 3: again the way I'm listening to something, I might put
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 3: it on as I'm in a car or I'm walking,
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 3: I got to put it myself in a different environment
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 3: to try to see if I can enjoy that music
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 3: in the environment in which it was supposed to exist.
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 3: But right now, it's not my my type of vie.
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 1: You obviously you're from Oakland. What are your thoughts on
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 1: what seemed to be like a very quick everybody turning
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 1: their back on the Rustle earlier this year. He just
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 1: made his return to the internet, just was on America's
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 1: Got Talent this week. Actually, I think he had a
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 1: you know, he had a moment that didn't know his way,
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 1: and I think even like that song. I mean, what
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 1: are your thoughts on that whole thing?
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 3: Larrussell will always be a star. He's a permanent star.
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 3: That light ain't going away nowhere. In fact, when we
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 3: look at social media, social media reacts the way it's designed.
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 3: It's designed to be polarizing. It's not designed to understand you.
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 3: It's designed to take clickbait.
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 1: It's not designed for nuance, no nuance whatsoever.
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 3: And so I heard somebody give a great breakdown that
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 3: if I want to be more polarized, and I'll give
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 3: an opinion, if I want to be more understood, I'll
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 3: give a perspective. Once you give a perspective, you can't
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 3: really fight somebody's perspective. It's just the way I see it, right,
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 3: And opinion is a little more less objective in the
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 3: sense that you're saying this is what it is and
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 3: the person and then gets angry. No, it ain't like that,
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 3: because everybody wants to have a battle of opinions. So
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 3: when I see what l Russell did, I think the
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 3: only thing was probably taking it personal. You know, when
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 3: you have a machine, that machine can work for you
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 3: and it can work against you. Right, when you have
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 3: a machine that is amplifying everything you're doing. Something that
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 3: would have been a normal moment in his regular life
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 3: now became a moment that the machine picked up because
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 3: he just had the supermold moment. He just had the
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 3: jay Z moment, he just had the signing moment. So
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 3: for me, it was I think it was one of
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 3: those first moments of seeing the negative publicity pick up
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 3: the way the positive publicity picks up.
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 1: And I think it was a perfect example of a
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 1: lot of people looking.
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 2: For a reason and not like Lrussell, Yeah, well like
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 2: it once you no longer the so called underdogs like
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 2: oh you sab a rock nation, you sold out? Now
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 2: we got a reason to say fuck you, right, But
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 2: it's supposed to being like, well, the whole song is
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 2: on Spotify, and if you listen to the whole song,
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 2: you understand where the concept.
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like clip the way it was clipped.
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 4: Sure I could see, but still no nuance, like anybody
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 4: with a brain could understand what he was trying to say. Now,
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 4: the reaction he had that I think you said, like
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 4: taking the reaction personal maybe is kind of where.
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he lost a lot and I'm sure that he
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 3: you know, I don't know what again, we kind of
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 3: take the human out.
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 1: Of things for sure. I mean, look, he took himself
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 1: off social media.
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 3: I mean right, but it's like where you have to conclude,
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 3: I don't know his state of mind. Right, you just
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 3: had one of the best moments of your life. You
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 3: might even be burnt out from all these things that's
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 3: going on, and you feel like, I've done so much
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 3: for a community, I've done so much for people. I've
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 3: put so many people on and sometimes it feels like, man,
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 3: you can do a whole life, right, and then one
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 3: moment people can hate you for and that can feel
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 3: very troubling. Right when you think about that, It's like,
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 3: I'm doing all of this for people every single day,
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 3: and then you realize it don't matter.
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 2: The only thing that matters is the last moment.
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 1: That they sauce and they won't give you. They to
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 1: understand the point you were trying to make. This is
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 1: a guy who's got free Palestine Freestyle.
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, he's putting on communities, he's putting on businesses,
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 3: he's feeding people, he has a platform that's putting on
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 3: independent artists. He's taking children and putting them on stages.
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 3: And giving people careers and giving out money and changing
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 3: the industry and the independent lens of things and sharing game.
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 3: And it's like, you're not going to conclude all of
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 3: that into your next perspective on Nah. So I don't
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 3: buy no hate against people because I know how the
• 1:51:34
  Speaker 3: internet loves to hate people, right, and so the love
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 3: can easily be flipped into hate because it's just an
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 3: emotion and depending on how it's being charged at the
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 3: moment and what narrative is being spun. But that can
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 3: make a person feel a certain way when you're doing
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 3: so much good and then people try to spend it
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 3: as if I'm actually allowed to have a bad day.
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 3: I'm allowed to fuck up. I'm allowed to have mistakes.
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 3: I'm allowed to do something wrong because the other rappers
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 3: I'll to see talking about killing, murdering, prostitution, pimping, gambling
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 3: and every other thing, y'all still rock with them one
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 3: hundred percent all day.
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 1: He's not wrong to have that perspective.
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you have to in order to be
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 3: successful today. You just gotta not care and you still
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 3: have to be intentional about how you move, but you
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 3: have to understand that everything is temporary.
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 2: You understand me, and the people.
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 3: That's hating online are not the same people that's offline.
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 3: I've been across the planet Earth, and I got nothing
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 3: but love across the hole in planet Earth. I got
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 3: nothing but respect online. I've been disrespected before. Online needs
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 3: done hate it before. I've never experienced that, not one
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 3: time over the last ten years since I've.
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 1: Been a public figure, any of that energy. Right.
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 3: So I know that there's a complete disconnect on what's
• 1:52:46
  Speaker 3: reality right and then what's social media right. That's true,
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 3: But Lorussel is one of the ones that man, when
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 3: you see a person do ninety ninety nine percent good,
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 3: I don't care if he even if he meant it
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 3: that way, I still rock with him because what I
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 3: know of him, your pattern becomes your character, right, and
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 3: the pattern of who he is, the dominance of who
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 3: he is, will override anything that I disagree with. I
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 3: will still at the end of the day say that's
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 3: my brother, right. And so I think that I did
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 3: see a lot of people jump out the window and
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 3: was so ready, was ready to hate, you know what
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 3: I mean, because he'd have made it to a place
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 3: that they never will. And so now they mad and
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 3: there's this thing that well, if I can tear you.
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 1: Down, I can have a come up. Yeah, and it's
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 1: like it's shut out to t shout out to Larussell.
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 2: You understand me.
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 3: Those are the good company man. They are incredible people,
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 3: good people. I've been seeing him for a long time
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 3: and every time I see him as nothing but good
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 3: energy love. He might ask a question to try to
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 3: even get more perspective on things, because I remember when
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 3: we was at Revote years ago, it's like, how do
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 3: you deal with like managing, you know, being in the
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 3: industry if you will while being you right, because I
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 3: think people will see me as an outlier like and
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 3: I think when Honorable Missed Louis Farakhm once said, when
• 1:54:10
  Speaker 3: he walks into a room, he brings his own atmosphere.
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 3: You know, like you can't go in and assimilate, you
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 3: lose parts of yourself. Part of that being sovereign is
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 3: understanding that you know you're going to affect people and
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 3: impact people, right, and you have to understand the environments
• 1:54:28
  Speaker 3: that you're stepping into that are not like you, and
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 3: you can't let them change you to where that thing
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 3: that made you special, the thing that made you stand
• 1:54:37
  Speaker 3: out the thing that made you different. You start giving
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 3: up more and more of that because you say, in
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 3: order to be around these people, I should assimilate, I
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 3: should think like them more, I should be like them more. No,
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 3: you got here from being different, right, And what's going
• 1:54:50
  Speaker 3: to make you not just stay here, but what's going
• 1:54:53
  Speaker 3: to make you happy with your own success is being
• 1:54:56
  Speaker 3: loyal to those parts of yourself that you believe that
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 3: come from God. That's your values, that's your principles, that's
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 3: your morals. You have to be consistent in that and
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 3: not break it. And people are going to try to
• 1:55:07
  Speaker 3: do that, from social media to people that's trying to
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 3: get you to.
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 2: Sell out and buy out.
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 1: It's just more and so about sticking to your script
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 1: and not letting everybody.
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 2: Change your narrative.
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 1: Okay, so album is dropping tomorrow.
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, June Teams drops tomorrow with the guys all platforms.
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 2: Make sure you lock in. Still got the coffee, Still
• 1:55:25
  Speaker 2: got the supermind coffee.
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 1: Right now.
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 3: We have the coffee, We have the tea, we got gummies,
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 3: we got chocolates. Everything is all cognitive wellness. So it's
• 1:55:34
  Speaker 3: super food for your brain.
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 2: You understand me.
• 1:55:37
  Speaker 3: Clean, No jitters none of those different things that you
• 1:55:39
  Speaker 3: get from normal caffeine consumption and things of that nature.
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 3: So we've been focusing on that. Our plan is to
• 1:55:46
  Speaker 3: have a coffee shop startup. Our goal is to create
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 3: these third spaces because we don't have enough in person experiences.
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 3: July nineteenth, we have our AI networking event doing with
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 3: my brother Rants yes, and we play. We're doing a
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 3: hike this Sunday, a Freedom hike is Father's Day plus
• 1:56:06
  Speaker 3: June teenth, yep, and we also have some networking events
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 3: we're doing at the facility.
• 1:56:11
  Speaker 1: Can you tell me about the facility?
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 3: So it is owned by a family office called Factory
• 1:56:16
  Speaker 3: and so that is a space that does it's a
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 3: multi family office that does wealth management for the culture, right,
• 1:56:22
  Speaker 3: and then there's the Factory Club that is the coordination
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 3: layer for the culture. So how you put infrastructure behind influence?
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 3: How do we make sure that we actually own the culture?
• 1:56:32
  Speaker 3: A lot of these things that we talk about are
• 1:56:33
  Speaker 3: like super fragmented, But I'm in there daily with people
• 1:56:37
  Speaker 3: that are EXE regulated. Right when it comes to being
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 3: a financial advisor, when it comes to wealth managing of
• 1:56:42
  Speaker 3: billions of dollars, when it comes to how you structure
• 1:56:45
  Speaker 3: deals and how you do business with governments and raise
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 3: hundreds of millions of dollars and things of that nature.
• 1:56:50
  Speaker 3: That's the infrastructure layer that I think that we've always
• 1:56:53
  Speaker 3: missed to become an institution.
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 2: So it's more so.
• 1:56:56
  Speaker 3: About taking all of our influences collectively and saying what
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 3: power we have.
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 1: And then the hackathons that you do, how often do
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 1: you do those? What are the goals are doing monthly?
• 1:57:07
  Speaker 1: The goal is also networking.
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 3: Make sure we have face to face experiences with each
• 1:57:11
  Speaker 3: other and we're not online on the computer.
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 1: Type like Chattanooga, Tennessee. They can't get to LA. Yeah,
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 1: is there a way to participate in getting some of
• 1:57:20
  Speaker 1: the AI game from you? Or yeah?
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 3: So we do two AI weekly live labs, so we
• 1:57:26
  Speaker 3: take you through there. You can get your questions asked,
• 1:57:29
  Speaker 3: whatever you have when it comes to AI. We do
• 1:57:31
  Speaker 3: live building sessions, so we show you how to build
• 1:57:33
  Speaker 3: it in real time, and that's through our high level university.
• 1:57:37
  Speaker 3: But our platform is called Zion, so you can go
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 3: there and apply and then you get two weekly passes
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 3: to be inside these classes learning as we go, right,
• 1:57:45
  Speaker 3: So there's no excuse to say, well, you know, I
• 1:57:48
  Speaker 3: don't want to just look at a course video. I
• 1:57:51
  Speaker 3: don't want to just go online and just learn from
• 1:57:53
  Speaker 3: people that's just dropping information. No, you get to actually
• 1:57:56
  Speaker 3: ask questions. You get to build alongside somebody that's building websites,
• 1:58:01
  Speaker 3: somebody building AI agent, somebody that's teaching you about all
• 1:58:04
  Speaker 3: this language you might hear out of there. And the
• 1:58:06
  Speaker 3: goal is to take really one hundred people then getting
• 1:58:08
  Speaker 3: them making their first ten thousand dollars a month, right,
• 1:58:11
  Speaker 3: that's the real goal with the AI. So my brother
• 1:58:13
  Speaker 3: Antoine Digital, who's been doing this for like the last
• 1:58:16
  Speaker 3: ten to fifteen years, who had taught himself how to
• 1:58:18
  Speaker 3: cold and he has colded thousands of apps and put
• 1:58:21
  Speaker 3: a bunch of them on social I mean on the
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 3: app store. He is the one that is leading it
• 1:58:26
  Speaker 3: week to week.
• 1:58:27
  Speaker 1: That's fire. Yeah, I don't think people understand like the
• 1:58:30
  Speaker 1: if you have an app idea. Yeah, it used to
• 1:58:32
  Speaker 1: be like, you know, almost like back in the day
• 1:58:35
  Speaker 1: when you were a rapper. Yeah, the idea of getting
• 1:58:38
  Speaker 1: your music heard by anybody when it was CDs and tapes,
• 1:58:41
  Speaker 1: just like it felt impossible. How do you do recording studio?
• 1:58:44
  Speaker 1: Do you know? How? Now it's like if you have
• 1:58:46
  Speaker 1: an app idea, like it's not far away from you
• 1:58:49
  Speaker 1: making it, not at all.
• 1:58:51
  Speaker 3: No, I mean like now nothing should stay an idea, right.
• 1:58:55
  Speaker 1: I think about it. I don't know if you saw
• 1:58:56
  Speaker 1: that game like two years ago, like NBA Young Boy
• 1:58:58
  Speaker 1: Broke out of Jail. It was like an app that
• 1:59:01
  Speaker 1: was went viral on and it was like unauthorized. Somebody
• 1:59:04
  Speaker 1: just made it on chat GPTs. Yeah, and you're just
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  Speaker 1: NBA Young Boy breaking out of Jail. Yeah. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know how much money the guy made, but he had
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  Speaker 1: to have just like spitballed that into chat gpt What.
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  Speaker 3: Night did you see the guy who created two forms
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  Speaker 3: so when you were filming you can do it in
• 1:59:17
  Speaker 3: horizontal and vertical at once.
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  Speaker 1: No.
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  Speaker 3: So he vibe coded something because he had a problem
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  Speaker 3: he wanted to fix because he was making viral content
• 1:59:24
  Speaker 3: about squirrels or something. But he didn't want to have
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  Speaker 3: to reshoot sometimes horizontal sometimes for different social pages. So
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  Speaker 3: he just vibe coded an app and it ended up
• 1:59:34
  Speaker 3: becoming number one right in the app store.
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  Speaker 1: Crazy and such an easy thing to think of, like, hey,
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  Speaker 1: it would be nice if we can.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, like one of the use cases I use in
• 1:59:43
  Speaker 3: my business is building our CRMs right. So we built
• 1:59:47
  Speaker 3: out a two hundred and forty six thousand customer CRM
• 1:59:51
  Speaker 3: system that can automatically rank people from hot, cold, and warm.
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  Speaker 3: I can see how much they bought, when they bought,
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  Speaker 3: where they went to a tour, how many times, what
• 2:00:00
  Speaker 3: they patterns right, and then we then took that information
• 2:00:03
  Speaker 3: and create what we call passports on our platform, so
• 2:00:06
  Speaker 3: it essentially sends them an email to be like, yo,
• 2:00:08
  Speaker 3: collect your passport. You get two free weeks of AI
• 2:00:11
  Speaker 3: Live labs. So now I can retarget my customers.
• 2:00:14
  Speaker 1: So if you see somebody as like a committed customer,
• 2:00:17
  Speaker 1: you can reach out to them with you like, hey.
• 2:00:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, now I know their exact names, I know who
• 2:00:22
  Speaker 3: they are, I know how many times they supported, I
• 2:00:24
  Speaker 3: know how many times they've shown up.
• 2:00:27
  Speaker 1: That data is invaluable for entrepreneurs right now, no matter
• 2:00:30
  Speaker 1: what your if you have a restaurant, exactly.
• 2:00:32
  Speaker 3: Like every tour that we've done has been self funded
• 2:00:35
  Speaker 3: and independent, so we get to keep all that data
• 2:00:37
  Speaker 3: anytime we've done it with somebody else, like CIA wants
• 2:00:40
  Speaker 3: to keep all the data. They want to keep it exactly,
• 2:00:43
  Speaker 3: and then they're trying to say our value is interpreting
• 2:00:46
  Speaker 3: the data for you. Right, So now you have the
• 2:00:48
  Speaker 3: ability to start your own agency inside your company right
• 2:00:52
  Speaker 3: to where you can analyze your own data and then
• 2:00:55
  Speaker 3: make the data driven decisions. Right, you can do your
• 2:00:59
  Speaker 3: own research and then make research driven decisions. So I
• 2:01:03
  Speaker 3: think that this is important that people understand it. And
• 2:01:05
  Speaker 3: the last thing that I wanted to say is about
• 2:01:08
  Speaker 3: these the local models. I think that everybody should be
• 2:01:11
  Speaker 3: focusing on not just using chg EPT in Claude locally,
• 2:01:16
  Speaker 3: it's installing it on your computer inside the terminal. Right,
• 2:01:20
  Speaker 3: that's what we really focus on. That's what me and
• 2:01:22
  Speaker 3: my brother Rans fifteen hundred, my brother Exavier Systems focus on,
• 2:01:27
  Speaker 3: and that's what we've taught people at the last AI hackathon.
• 2:01:30
  Speaker 3: And once you do that, you can then set it
• 2:01:32
  Speaker 3: up in a way that it is secure, you can
• 2:01:34
  Speaker 3: give it access to your data. Once you give it
• 2:01:36
  Speaker 3: access to your data. We've had people that are in
• 2:01:39
  Speaker 3: the music industry that had really great testimonials because they
• 2:01:43
  Speaker 3: found money that they were old, right, they found fifty
• 2:01:46
  Speaker 3: different ways to make money on their music. They was
• 2:01:48
  Speaker 3: able to go through all their data and be like, oh,
• 2:01:51
  Speaker 3: this is really good ip that.
• 2:01:52
  Speaker 2: Can be converted into an ebook that you're sitting here.
• 2:01:54
  Speaker 1: So if you install it that way, it's a lot
• 2:01:57
  Speaker 1: more trustworthy way to say, yeah, let me get you
• 2:02:00
  Speaker 1: into all the back end. Yes. So having Claude have
• 2:02:03
  Speaker 1: access to your email.
• 2:02:04
  Speaker 3: And when you're using Claude and CHGPT, you're training their
• 2:02:09
  Speaker 3: next model with your data, right, so every time you're
• 2:02:13
  Speaker 3: prompting that is going to them. And those models are
• 2:02:15
  Speaker 3: influenced by companies, they're influenced by the advertisers, they're influenced
• 2:02:19
  Speaker 3: by the government, you know, So it's being trained on
• 2:02:22
  Speaker 3: the collective versus you have in a local model that
• 2:02:24
  Speaker 3: you can customize.
• 2:02:25
  Speaker 2: To be trained on you.
• 2:02:26
  Speaker 3: And then they have what you call weights, and the
• 2:02:28
  Speaker 3: weights is basically adjusting the model itself, so you can
• 2:02:31
  Speaker 3: do a lot more customizable things. You can download free
• 2:02:35
  Speaker 3: models to where you're not paying for these image models,
• 2:02:37
  Speaker 3: you're not paying for these video models. You can go
• 2:02:39
  Speaker 3: and get hub, you can download Quinn and all these
• 2:02:42
  Speaker 3: other things. So we also not trying to get people
• 2:02:45
  Speaker 3: to spend a bunch of money on AI. We're trying
• 2:02:47
  Speaker 3: to get you to make sure that it's personalized for you.
• 2:02:50
  Speaker 3: They're not taking a culture and then training off the
• 2:02:52
  Speaker 3: culture and then trying to replace us. The same way,
• 2:02:55
  Speaker 3: you will have rappers like Symbol Me and Symbols talking
• 2:02:57
  Speaker 3: about this, rappers that go to some of these companies
• 2:02:59
  Speaker 3: and be rapid for them so that they can learn
• 2:03:01
  Speaker 3: the cadence, they can learn the language, and then they
• 2:03:03
  Speaker 3: can train the models. Right, So you have to be
• 2:03:07
  Speaker 3: careful as we're using these platforms. They're training how to
• 2:03:10
  Speaker 3: replace the culture. They're plaining how to replace you. But
• 2:03:13
  Speaker 3: if you're using locally and no data is being sent
• 2:03:15
  Speaker 3: to them, and I probably oversimplify the way you set
• 2:03:19
  Speaker 3: it up. And that's why we have our trainings to
• 2:03:21
  Speaker 3: make sure you're doing it securely. But this is the
• 2:03:24
  Speaker 3: way that we're not training our replacements.
• 2:03:26
  Speaker 1: That makes sense.
• 2:03:27
  Speaker 3: You can go to computer, you can go to there's
• 2:03:30
  Speaker 3: a Google application. I forget what the model is called
• 2:03:32
  Speaker 3: right now, but you can install it on your phone completely.
• 2:03:35
  Speaker 3: So if you lost in the woods and ain't got
• 2:03:36
  Speaker 3: no internet, you still have an AI that you can
• 2:03:38
  Speaker 3: ask any question you want to, Like, we don't know
• 2:03:41
  Speaker 3: all of the things that we can do with AI.
• 2:03:44
  Speaker 3: And this is what I want us to understand, because
• 2:03:46
  Speaker 3: I see people that are ignorant of it because these
• 2:03:48
  Speaker 3: data censors are being put in black communities, are poisoning
• 2:03:53
  Speaker 3: the water, are poisoning the air. So how can we
• 2:03:56
  Speaker 3: then make sure that we're not participating in the poisoning.
• 2:03:59
  Speaker 3: You can't do that if you're ignorant of how these
• 2:04:01
  Speaker 3: things work. AI literacy is a new financial literacy. You
• 2:04:04
  Speaker 3: gotta get you some.
• 2:04:04
  Speaker 1: I love it, man, Well listen, I appreciate you pulling up.
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  Speaker 1: Go get his album. Yeah, man, tap it in with me. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: website people can sign up for all that.
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  Speaker 2: Go to nineteen keys dot com.
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  Speaker 1: Slash ai.
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  Speaker 2: Uh you go to nineteen keys dot com.
• 2:04:20
  Speaker 1: Are you dropping on the YouTube channel when you do
• 2:04:22
  Speaker 1: the like the high level conversations and ship.
• 2:04:25
  Speaker 3: We're gonna start doing it back bi weekly. So we
• 2:04:28
  Speaker 3: got the episodes coming out this Sunday. That's gonna be
• 2:04:32
  Speaker 3: a really good one. My brother Kenan Beasley, but we
• 2:04:35
  Speaker 3: had took some time off to really focus on the infrastructure.
• 2:04:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah you know what I mean, because I remember initially
• 2:04:40
  Speaker 1: I saw you on micro sheets channel Yeah yeah, yeah,
• 2:04:43
  Speaker 1: and well that's that's how I found you. I was
• 2:04:47
  Speaker 1: on his channel. Yeah, and then I just started checking out.
• 2:04:51
  Speaker 1: Oh no, I've been podcasting for the last ten years now,
• 2:04:53
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like, he goes back to
• 2:04:55
  Speaker 1: were you surprised as somebody who sat down with RFK
• 2:04:58
  Speaker 1: for like three hours and had his best and review
• 2:05:00
  Speaker 1: of the entire time he was running for president to
• 2:05:02
  Speaker 1: see him kind of just fucking I don't know.
• 2:05:06
  Speaker 3: Well, you know, we've been cited in Congress, so I'm
• 2:05:08
  Speaker 3: glad we did that, you know what I mean. But
• 2:05:11
  Speaker 3: I think a lot of people at the time was
• 2:05:13
  Speaker 3: asking why would we sit down with him? At first,
• 2:05:15
  Speaker 3: we were supposed to actually sit down with Jamal Bawman,
• 2:05:17
  Speaker 3: who was a congressman.
• 2:05:18
  Speaker 1: And at that time I wasn't mad at RFK back
• 2:05:22
  Speaker 1: then by a third as an actual yeah, I wasn't
• 2:05:25
  Speaker 1: mad at him. So at the time, what's the what's
• 2:05:29
  Speaker 1: the league?
• 2:05:29
  Speaker 3: The not the ad L, but the other Zion is
• 2:05:32
  Speaker 3: a money pack a pak they had spent the most
• 2:05:35
  Speaker 3: money against somebody in.
• 2:05:36
  Speaker 1: The campaign, Jamal Bowman.
• 2:05:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he was supposed to come down to sit with us.
• 2:05:40
  Speaker 3: He will be the first politician that we had talked to.
• 2:05:43
  Speaker 3: And then I guess his campaign strategies at the time
• 2:05:45
  Speaker 3: was like, nah, let's not do keys right, and they
• 2:05:49
  Speaker 3: made that wrong decision and then they ended up losing.
• 2:05:53
  Speaker 3: And then Rfkking reached out to us, and I was like,
• 2:05:56
  Speaker 3: why not let me see what happens when you can
• 2:05:59
  Speaker 3: actually mix up in independent media can now be a
• 2:06:03
  Speaker 3: part of these political processes.
• 2:06:04
  Speaker 1: It was a conversation too.
• 2:06:06
  Speaker 3: It was the best he ever had, which is why
• 2:06:07
  Speaker 3: it's the one that it's the reason why it's the
• 2:06:10
  Speaker 3: most cited because he got comfortable and he was having
• 2:06:12
  Speaker 3: loan form conversations and those conversations are now being cited
• 2:06:16
  Speaker 3: in Congress and consistently against him because it's when he
• 2:06:19
  Speaker 3: was speaking the most truth of the way he thinks.
• 2:06:21
  Speaker 1: At that time. Had the election been at that time,
• 2:06:24
  Speaker 1: that interview, that's what sold me on. I would have
• 2:06:26
  Speaker 1: voted for our instead of Kamala or Trump for sure.
• 2:06:29
  Speaker 1: Now obviously, well.
• 2:06:31
  Speaker 2: I would have sat down with Kamala had that conversation.
• 2:06:34
  Speaker 1: She wouldn't have sit down with me.
• 2:06:36
  Speaker 3: But that's why she lost, not because she didn't sit
• 2:06:38
  Speaker 3: down with me, but because she was unwilling right to
• 2:06:41
  Speaker 3: sit down with people that's like me, right.
• 2:06:43
  Speaker 1: She didn't go to show she's a human who can
• 2:06:46
  Speaker 1: be put in uncomfortable positions and not be asked scripted questions.
• 2:06:50
  Speaker 1: She already a knowledge exactly.
• 2:06:52
  Speaker 3: If you're not willing to get put in that hot seat,
• 2:06:54
  Speaker 3: then people ain't gonna believe you.
• 2:06:56
  Speaker 1: I would love to see you sit down with Row Connor,
• 2:06:58
  Speaker 1: who's he's the congressman in Silicon Valley. Okay, he's the
• 2:07:02
  Speaker 1: guy who pushed the Epstein Transparency Act with and then
• 2:07:05
  Speaker 1: Thomas Massey, who is the new congressman who's had the
• 2:07:08
  Speaker 1: most money spent against them from APAC. Hey, they sat
• 2:07:11
  Speaker 1: been with me thirty million dollars. Did you see this
• 2:07:14
  Speaker 1: Bras in Kentucky?
• 2:07:15
  Speaker 3: Well, I think I think they need this right now,
• 2:07:17
  Speaker 3: like you need to be able to sit down and
• 2:07:20
  Speaker 3: have these unscripted conversations that put you in a hot
• 2:07:22
  Speaker 3: seat that people can see, even if you don't answer
• 2:07:24
  Speaker 3: things perfectly, they can say this is a human being.
• 2:07:27
  Speaker 1: Yep. Right.
• 2:07:28
  Speaker 3: And I think that you being over polishing your campaign
• 2:07:31
  Speaker 3: manager is the reason that you're losing because they're going
• 2:07:33
  Speaker 3: off their experience and their experiences from an old world
• 2:07:36
  Speaker 3: and people the world man, people don't want anything that
• 2:07:39
  Speaker 3: is reminiscent of that old institutional style.
• 2:07:42
  Speaker 1: Even Trump, all the podcasting he did how you felt
• 2:07:46
  Speaker 1: about him as a dude. Well, the strategy was right,
• 2:07:49
  Speaker 1: It was a great strategy. They understood attention and Jdvan
• 2:07:52
  Speaker 1: is currently in the middle of trying to do that
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  Speaker 1: right now.
• 2:07:54
  Speaker 3: I mean, and then of course you get the Charlie
• 2:07:56
  Speaker 3: Kirks of the world that was funded to help put
• 2:07:58
  Speaker 3: him into positions. Again, when I see what the opposition
• 2:08:03
  Speaker 3: is doing, I'm always asking what are we willing to do?
• 2:08:06
  Speaker 3: And a lot of us are disconnected from each other
• 2:08:08
  Speaker 3: because they be like, well, maybe I don't agree with
• 2:08:11
  Speaker 3: keys on this position or that position, but we all
• 2:08:12
  Speaker 3: got the same enemies.
• 2:08:14
  Speaker 1: It's the one position. It's the one position that you
• 2:08:16
  Speaker 1: have that will make them not fuck with you. So
• 2:08:19
  Speaker 1: it is the big z.
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  Speaker 3: I think that's some sucker shit to be like, here,
• 2:08:22
  Speaker 3: we have the same enemy, but I'm unwilling to unite
• 2:08:25
  Speaker 3: with you because we have small indifferences.
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  Speaker 2: That's narcissistic.
• 2:08:28
  Speaker 1: It's really just the one the one difference though it
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  Speaker 1: feels like if it feels like, if you're like an
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  Speaker 1: establishment democrat, you're not going to sit down with someone
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