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- 0:29Imagine a group of people from all points across the world
- 0:32working to create a four-pronged project.
- 0:35That includes a Jesus multimedia Center and museum near the Sea
- 0:40of Galilee a virtual meta Universe of Jesus life that you
- 0:45can experience as well as have at your fingertips online.
- 0:49Which brings all of the facts of his life to you.
- 0:52And finally A continuing movie series that takes the stories
- 0:56from the life and teachings of the Jesus, And puts them in
- 1:00cinema. That is a pretty amazing project
- 1:04and that is exactly what the center for Unity project is.
- 1:08I'm delighted to have Gabriel Ryan, Berg and Israel who
- 1:11formulated the project along with Santiago Neyland.
- 1:14Steve marble, Luis Morales, Caribe lash and Rick Lyon.
- 1:18All of whom are also students of the Rancho book.
- 1:21And each playing a significant part of this Center for Unity
- 1:25project, which we will discuss now on the Rancher radio.
- 1:29Podcast, let me have everybody introduce themselves so that
- 1:32everybody gets an opportunity to introduce themselves to the
- 1:35audience. Well, let's start from Rick and
- 1:38then you Rick, you can pass it along, introduce everybody and
- 1:41your involvement in the center for unity.
- 1:43All right, well, my involvement with the center for Unity began.
- 1:46Probably in 2014. When I met Gabriel on a hillside
- 1:50overlooking, the Sea of Galilee and we actually your answer
- 1:54group, there's a tour with Diane labrecque and gave Told us what
- 1:59he was thinking about doing there.
- 2:02And so we had a brief prayer and started from there.
- 2:08So Gabriel has put together a team.
- 2:10And, and so all you last fall, it was when I really got
- 2:13involved, seriously and things just started rolling since then.
- 2:17So I've been a year range book readers since 1978 and really
- 2:23started getting involved in the range of activities and 93.
- 2:26And I've served in many roles with different associations.
- 2:29Ins and fellowship and you. Anyway, I and helped with the
- 2:33foundation to. So I've been around for a while
- 2:35and seeing a lot of things and I've been involved in a lot of
- 2:37projects, but I don't think I've ever seen one that had the
- 2:40potential and the way things have come together with all
- 2:45this. I've never seen that before.
- 2:46So it's something totally new and totally exciting, and I'm
- 2:49really pleased to be part of it. So maybe I'll hand it off to you
- 2:54then. So my name is Gabriel and I live
- 2:57in Israel. I was born Jewish.
- 3:00And until I was about 40 years old, no more, I had no
- 3:07connection to Jesus and no understanding of anything and
- 3:12you're untouchable came into my life.
- 3:14And I spent the next seven years, translating it into
- 3:18Hebrew, I was baptized in the Jordan and 2014.
- 3:24At the same time, I'm a break and I was still busy,
- 3:28translating your run check. Back then.
- 3:30So I just had vague ideas of something on the Mount of
- 3:34Beatitudes and well work, eight years later now.
- 3:38And those vague ideas have become for concrete projects.
- 3:44All of them are focused on sharing the life and teachings
- 3:48of Jesus. With everybody and especially,
- 3:52we're targeting young people around the world.
- 3:55So I just like ideas and once my relationship with Jesus,
- 4:02materialize to the point where I understand, not just in the head
- 4:06but in the heart, what it means to have a personal relationship
- 4:10with God. So everything I do is centered
- 4:14around that and all these projects have that in mind, this
- 4:17is what we pray for. I think that using these methods
- 4:24new technologies and the information in part four of the
- 4:28Rancher book is going to be a bang you know it's like a an
- 4:34explosive combination that will touch many hearts and that's
- 4:39what we're focused on. Pass it on to Luis Miguel
- 4:43miramon. Oh, thank you.
- 4:47Gabriel, and hi everyone. It's a pleasure to to be here
- 4:53and Jim nice to meet you. Meet you.
- 4:56Well I mean, in the Patagonia Argentina, some pretty pretty
- 5:02far from all of you and I'm, I'm from Colombia.
- 5:07I've been reading the book since 1990 And at least four times and
- 5:16I found the book through the JJ Benitez novel story, it's the
- 5:23Trojan Horse. Oh, and I found that different
- 5:28Jesus and that grabs me. It was, it was something magic
- 5:34and II wanted to know more about that Jesus because it was it was
- 5:40different That the one picture on my, on my Catholic
- 5:46background, you know, and they found it so so so attracted that
- 5:52II feel that they need to understand more and some
- 5:57somebody says to me that I should follow a link and I
- 6:03follow it and I found the UK and the rest is history and it seems
- 6:08that I have been transforming my life.
- 6:11All the time. And I'm just thinking about
- 6:16probably what I should do best if the, if the life is eternal.
- 6:22So it's like that, that come to my mind all the time.
- 6:27So I I started looking for art. So I become a Celestial Artisan
- 6:36in in potentially so I make music You probably have heard me
- 6:43before I meet you at tea and I love to make music about the
- 6:49ranch a book and and then I'm a specialist on human resources I
- 6:54have more than 30 years of experience.
- 6:57I'm an expert on on that matter. I'm a professional coach and I
- 7:02work. I worked for so many
- 7:04organizations and and that has become real Matter on my life
- 7:12because his it means for me that my purpose is is intending to 22
- 7:19and you're more than this life. So I've been working with
- 7:23groups, I will working with teams and I and I help teams
- 7:28become better and that that with the, with the lessons of the
- 7:33book have brought me here to the Center for Unity after the
- 7:37hackathon we had on 20/20. Yeah.
- 7:42Well we contact with Gabriel and make a lot of talking and then
- 7:49one thing becomes to another and here we are building a trying to
- 7:53build a world-class organization.
- 7:56That is more than a bunch of readers behind a project.
- 8:00But actually we are stepping one step ahead of what the people of
- 8:07the relative you book reader can It to understand the book, we
- 8:13are doing more of that. We are trying to picture Jesus
- 8:18as we as we read it. So I'm very happy and very
- 8:23thrill to be here and it's a pleasure to have all you on
- 8:27board because we are kind of the same in the same Mission.
- 8:32So I'm going to pass to to carry I'm honored to be here and to be
- 8:38a part of this team, but see, I have been reading and studying
- 8:47the Rancher book for over 30 years.
- 8:49My parents posted a study group for about 30 years and my mother
- 8:58received the book from my grandmother and her sister.
- 9:03I guess you could say I'm third generation.
- 9:05Wow. So I've been reading and
- 9:07studying as, you know, as best I can throughout my adult life and
- 9:12building a career and a family. And I had a business in between
- 9:18but I also have a 28-year career with public television, with the
- 9:24New Orleans, public television station.
- 9:27And yes Productions. Yes, Productions is the
- 9:32production Department of wyes. At the 12th.
- 9:37Oldest PBS station in the nation so we're 65 years old, and
- 9:43thanks to Hurricane Katrina. We now have a forty seven
- 9:48thousand square foot facility is probably one of the best in the
- 9:52country. We have three floors for
- 9:57Studios, you know, top of the line equipment, an incredible
- 10:03team and what has opened in the last six months is really
- 10:08exciting because we have partnered with Kenny Morrison
- 10:12Productions to bring in all the Cutting Edge, virtual reality
- 10:18and virtual production into our studio.
- 10:22So that's what's really going to be helpful for this project and
- 10:27this convergence of talent and staff was going on.
- 10:33While I was learning more about the center, Unity and learning
- 10:37about the needs and lo and behold, Gabriel Nile spoke about
- 10:44this and I said, well it is a possibility.
- 10:47We might be able to help it says, you know, continues on and
- 10:52in terms of the Cinematic portion of this project.
- 10:56So I was able to discuss this with our head of production and
- 11:03he was at the same time, bringing in and developing This
- 11:06partnership to bring in CGI and fresh will production into our
- 11:10studio space. So it's very exciting to be
- 11:16working for public television and yes, productions for so long
- 11:21and also to be able to bring something to the table here for
- 11:26the center for Unity team and to bring Jesus to life.
- 11:32And you know, we're honing in. On what stories are the most
- 11:38important to start with, with building a framework.
- 11:42And we can tell you more about that as we go along.
- 11:45But I'm excited to bring in two of my loves and passions
- 11:49together. Yeah, that's great hundred
- 11:51indeed. And then finally, we have I
- 11:56guess it would be the second Square down on the right from
- 12:01where I'm sitting, Santiago Santiago.
- 12:07Then the gentleman in the center, the Center Square.
- 12:11Do you all see each other, the same way, I see each other
- 12:14Gabriel's on the upper left now like I'm the Hollywood Squares.
- 12:17Do any of you know that TV show you can actually move the
- 12:22squares around by dragging and low, okay?
- 12:24All right, okay. Yeah.
- 12:27Well, you Tim yeah, yeah. Well, thank you Jim.
- 12:32My name is Santiago Neil and I'm actually a fan of your podcast.
- 12:36I really enjoy your your your program.
- 12:39I think it's a very enlightening you have a variety of themed so
- 12:43so I enjoy it. A lot means a lot to me.
- 12:47Well, I'm a 20 plus years, reader discovered, the ranch
- 12:51book around 1999. At that time.
- 12:56I was a little bit disenfranchised with the
- 12:59Catholic Church. Had been for quite some time.
- 13:03You know. There's a there were a lot of
- 13:04things that didn't really match up, you know.
- 13:06So I was in a search for four meaning, you know, different
- 13:11different places that I look for in suddenly the book arrived and
- 13:16it presented a new version of Jesus.
- 13:18In some of the most are all of the missing pieces that I that I
- 13:25had from the from Catholicism really came into San stand.
- 13:28It presented a different version that really, really matched my
- 13:33heart and matched. What really?
- 13:36I mean something that really filled me, you know, it was
- 13:38different completely, different version that made sense.
- 13:41And I remember I had a little return by mail thing, inside the
- 13:48book that I failed, I didn't think nobody was going to
- 13:51contact me and I filled in and somebody from the you Ranch
- 13:55Association contacted and I started going to presentations,
- 13:59then did it? Study group and now I'm here and
- 14:03the center for Unity. I've been participating in the
- 14:06Mexico Association. I even was there when it was
- 14:10charted with back in the day with Kathy Jones and I was I was
- 14:15fun and actually I talked to Kathy and he said well anything
- 14:18that you need for my part and she said well can you do
- 14:21translations and suddenly I was there in the middle of a
- 14:23translations and in doing that but doing the other the
- 14:28association translation back and forth.
- 14:30I'm English and Spanish and and then I started meeting other
- 14:35people get gone. I went to the Chicago
- 14:39conference. I think that was back in two
- 14:41thousand, four or five. I went to Chicago and and then
- 14:48we did the hackathon, two years ago, that's where I met.
- 14:51Louise, me, I met Gabriel and I got invited to the project a
- 14:56couple months ago and it has really been something.
- 15:00At my soul needed. You know?
- 15:02I mean this is a project that ever since you start reading the
- 15:06ranch a book, you want to take it a little bit further, it's
- 15:09like, well, we have to reveal this to the world and it's slow.
- 15:13Its, it kind of little bit frustrating that you get.
- 15:15A lot of people do not know this information.
- 15:18It can be so rewarding for them, it can, it can help them so
- 15:22much. So when this project came along
- 15:24and all the initiatives that we have, all the different things
- 15:28that they Center for Unity. It's All about, I was really
- 15:32excited and things are starting to move along.
- 15:36I feel really blessed to be part of this team, I'm in charge of
- 15:40sales and marketing and I'm also helping in the Cinematic part of
- 15:45our projects. So really excited to be here
- 15:48really excited to be with this theme.
- 15:50And like Rick said, and Gabriel said, this is something that we
- 15:53want to share with the world, especially nowadays in.
- 15:57This is what you've discussed in some of your podcast, with a
- 16:00World that we live in and the battle that's been waging right
- 16:04now between God and in, the secular world that we have to
- 16:09bring the Jesus story in Jesus life to to more people and they
- 16:13can really Comfort their souls in there, they can find that
- 16:16personal relationship with God that that Gabriel talks about.
- 16:20And and I think this is something that will really
- 16:23change their hearts and really open their hearts.
- 16:29Like, it happened to me. Me where I was fed up with a
- 16:32traditional religion, and I found this personal relationship
- 16:35with God and I have my own personal relationship,
- 16:37relationship and personal religion with him.
- 16:40So that's that's my story. Thanks, Santiago, that's great.
- 16:43How did, how the heck did you translate nor Alicia deck into
- 16:47Spanish? I just, and for that matter
- 16:49Hebrew, I mean, I must be a challenge.
- 16:53And then finally, sir, the gentleman I'm seeing in the
- 16:55middle, I Jim, I'm Steven marble I stand.
- 16:58I'm, I'm in California. So I'm sorry, empathize with
- 17:03Gabriel and what he does. Anyway.
- 17:07Yeah, I was self introduced, I suppose you could say to the
- 17:12ranch book in 1972. I kept it by my bedside and so
- 17:22solo reader and kept it with me throughout my professional
- 17:28career, working in immersive entertainment.
- 17:30Tainment. And so it was something I would
- 17:34look for connections with others and occasionally, I would meet
- 17:39somebody and in the word you Branch who would drop and we
- 17:43would suddenly light up and start sharing, but it would be
- 17:46in the oddest situations. Once I think one significant,
- 17:49one was an 87 at just came up the other day.
- 17:53Our yesterday, I was with this fellow who had made the first
- 17:59film on The Shroud of Turin and I asked him how he read the
- 18:04Rancher book. It says exactly how the Shroud
- 18:07was created, and he said he stopped, and he said, you're the
- 18:12second person in that is ask me. If I've read the you and I spoke
- 18:16in the other was some famous countries country singer from
- 18:21Nashville, whose name? I can't remember.
- 18:25So, I was really happy to know. There were other you Ranch,
- 18:29readers out there besides my Myself and these circumstances I
- 18:32kept bouncing into people and 2000.
- 18:35I started becoming a student and I'm in the Santa Fe study group
- 18:40and its foundation of my life. It was the first thing that
- 18:44really made sense to me. As I explored.
- 18:48What I was envisioning is reality versus what organized
- 18:52religion was telling me was the spiritual Universe out there.
- 18:57So I come at it from a cosmic. And what I really appreciate
- 19:02about this project is it's taking me into the life of Jesus
- 19:06which as a Protestant Christian I walked away from quite a bit,
- 19:11when I was younger and be went through a agnosticism into
- 19:16spiritual seeking and all of the different traditions and formats
- 19:21and then it back to Jesus all the time, back to Jesus.
- 19:24And of course, when the ranch book found me, that was the
- 19:28biggest example. However, did I read that portion
- 19:32of the Urantia book? Yeah, when I was in study group
- 19:35but I never have studied it. Now I'm enjoying seeing how it
- 19:38fits in the big puzzle pieces of Consciousness that I need and I
- 19:44can see the road needs as well. So my professional career is
- 19:49mostly an expanded Cinema. That's where I started.
- 19:53All going to Cinerama Disneyland as a kid and by the time I got
- 19:59in, I wanted For USC Cinema during the days of Lucas and the
- 20:04Gang. And, yeah, I being a hippie
- 20:08found myself in Idaho instead of Hollywood and raising a family.
- 20:13I've got back into filmmaking through teaching children
- 20:16filmmaking, then I was teaching deaf children filmmaking and
- 20:21then oh suddenly I'm making films again and I got involved.
- 20:25I was making eight millimeter films for, you're blowing up to
- 20:2816. Mm.
- 20:29And cutting them. We're cutting them on an eight
- 20:31millimeter flat bed, that was created in MIT and then blowing
- 20:36them up to 16 and I graduated from that when and to IMAX and
- 20:41we'll friends of mine and myself made an IMAX film called Kronos
- 20:45and 1985, and that did quite a quite well, it was nonverbal
- 20:51film and later on we also developed a phone, a couple
- 20:56films when is Baraka in, the other is samsara.
- 21:00And 70. Mm.
- 21:01So my background has been in analog film.
- 21:04And after I die, then did Back to the Future, the ride at
- 21:09Universal Studios that couple of them when in Florida and one in
- 21:12Hollywood and I was their senior project manager that was my
- 21:17official title. I was the meat and sandwich in
- 21:19the sole survivor of those projects.
- 21:22So, I got my, I really learned a lot about immersive
- 21:25entertainment as we created that project.
- 21:28And I went on to do a flying saucer and In China and other
- 21:31things like that. A lot of design that didn't get
- 21:34produced. You can imagine my experience
- 21:38when I finally connected with Gabriel about what they have
- 21:43been doing, I wasn't just ecstatic to hear that this was
- 21:47happening, especially on the Sea of Galilee.
- 21:50And what what this could mean as far as the new theater of a new
- 21:55presentation for Jesus and I'm telling Susan Yeah, I'm
- 22:01commitments project. I can't tell you how many times
- 22:04I went to the center and the dome in Hollywood on Sunset and
- 22:09just got it blown away by, then I saw gravity and IMAX a few
- 22:14years ago, I think I got kind of dizzy, so I, yeah, that was
- 22:18probably the best IMAX film ever made.
- 22:22I think that's unbelievable, 2001.
- 22:26Yes, that I saw that at the center of the Dome as well.
- 22:28So I'm lucky I consider my I'm Such a and you're right about
- 22:32the 80s, was the Golden Age of wonderful theater, and I don't
- 22:35think that'll ever be like that again.
- 22:37So creative. So I got into radio around the
- 22:40same time that I discovered the ranch book, which is about 1981.
- 22:45It already been a Christian. I didn't have any problem with
- 22:47Christianity. I probably wasn't that devout of
- 22:50a Christian, but I, but I had the basics and so I always
- 22:54thought there would be a marriage one day between radio.
- 22:57So I waited I waited. And then when podcasting came
- 23:00Out, that's when I realized, that's the way to reach people
- 23:03because in radio, it has been taught to me.
- 23:06And I've seen it. The people have a real
- 23:08relationship with another person.
- 23:11It's almost as good as having a best friend and we don't listen
- 23:15in public. Most people when they listen to
- 23:17a baseball game or a whatever they're listening to they
- 23:20listened by themselves or their in their car by themselves and
- 23:24they're having that symbiotic relationship with the person.
- 23:27So that's what what motivates me having, read the original To
- 23:30book probably a thousand times in some parts and at least three
- 23:35times from cover to cover, I share the same feelings as you
- 23:38guys. It's like you go back and you
- 23:40ReDiscover things. You've read him a thousand times
- 23:42and you go. Wow, I never saw that before.
- 23:45So let's get to the unity project.
- 23:48So tell me what you're doing because you've got all these
- 23:50different things. You've got the metaverse, which
- 23:53is exciting to me. Who wants to take the charge and
- 23:57kind of give us an overview. I think I'm going to take that
- 23:59question. I'm sharing with you a tree so
- 24:04obviously our listeners will now be able to see it but I'm going
- 24:07to describe it. We call this the 25-year Vision
- 24:12tree because our projects there are four of them and I'll
- 24:15mention them by name and explain what they are.
- 24:18They're very, very long and quite ambitious so we're taking
- 24:22them one step at a time. They're based on the life and
- 24:27teachings of Jesus. India Rancho book and a
- 24:29wonderful piece of art because it's that cold the untold story
- 24:35of Jesus. It's also a book but it's a
- 24:37coffee table format book beautifully made, which is a
- 24:42synthesis. It's called modern biography of
- 24:46Jesus based on Urantia book. And that's what it is.
- 24:50So, these two are our main references and, of course, we're
- 24:53using the gospels synoptic gospels, or from the Bible.
- 24:58Anything authentic that we can use about the life and teachings
- 25:03of Jesus. We are trying to synthesize from
- 25:05all these sources to create experiences and we are focused
- 25:11as an organization On creating experiences that produce
- 25:16spiritual transformations. In this tree has a few branches
- 25:22and now I'm going to describe to you what those branches are and
- 25:26explain what our projects are. So the first is a software
- 25:31piece, we call the Jesus metaverse.
- 25:33That's a nap, then we have to in-person projects in person.
- 25:39Means you're going somewhere, you're visiting a venue.
- 25:43One of them is called the Jesus Museum, and that's going to be
- 25:47on the shores of the Sea of Galilee.
- 25:49And we're currently negotiating a lease on the same building
- 25:53where right now, you can see that Jesus or the Galilee boat
- 25:57and Whole story in and of itself.
- 26:00But there is an object that will discover 40 years ago when the
- 26:05Sea of Galilee receded. And from the information we have
- 26:10from the Rancher book, you can surmise that it is either a boat
- 26:14that Jesus Built with his own hands, or was built in the
- 26:18Zebedee boat shop. Which means if it's after his
- 26:22time, it's something he designed So the Jesus museum is going to
- 26:27be an in-person experience, you will see this boat and then you
- 26:30will go into a different room, huge room where Stephen is going
- 26:35to do his magic and basically bring you back 2,000 years to
- 26:40another lifetime. So you can experience and
- 26:43witness in person what happened, 2,000 years ago, but then we're
- 26:48also going to try to document in in an in-person experience.
- 26:55What Happened. Since what happened?
- 26:58Because Jesus was here, what happened to you manatee in the
- 27:02last 2,000 years but that's why we call it a museum, but it's
- 27:06not a regular Museum. It may have some physical
- 27:10artifacts and some pieces of Art and archaeology, but that's not
- 27:13going to be the main focus. The main focus is going to be a
- 27:16personal experience. Now, imagine you take that and
- 27:21you bring it to people all over the world where they are.
- 27:25So for those who cannot travel to the Sea of Galilee, we're
- 27:28going to make an experience called the Jesus experience or
- 27:32experience Jesus and that's going to show in main cities
- 27:36around the world just like a van Gogh experience and the cling to
- 27:40experience. And there's several companies
- 27:43that are doing this immersive experience that you about
- 27:47different types of our Cysts and other subjects.
- 27:51So we're going to do this about Jesus and then that means you
- 27:54can walk into a venue somewhere around the world and experience
- 27:59something similar to what we're going to show in the museum.
- 28:02Let me ask you a question real quick.
- 28:04I would imagine there are probably a lot of religious
- 28:08churches, Christian groups that are doing something similar or
- 28:12know that they would have some sort of, you know, reality
- 28:17virtual reality walking through the, you know, Now or do you are
- 28:23you aware of any? Well, I live in Israel and there
- 28:27is no Jesus Museum here or anywhere else in the world.
- 28:30And there is the question is why I don't have an answer to that.
- 28:33But it has never been done. And I think the one of the main
- 28:39points here is that we're marrying technology with
- 28:43information. The ranch a book has a complete
- 28:47description of the life and teachings of Jesus from before
- 28:51He actually came here to after he left.
- 28:53We're going to focus on the time he spent on Earth and there's so
- 28:58much information and insights that we can share.
- 29:03It has been never done before it hasn't been done before because
- 29:07you Rancho students, didn't do it and other people didn't have
- 29:11Iran. Triple so this is a first but
- 29:15even a Jesus Museum doesn't exist on this planet.
- 29:18Yet strange. We have one remote like we have
- 29:20one. The NOAA Arc.
- 29:22Yeah we do does very well. Yeah okay and there's the Bible
- 29:27Museum to in Washington, d.c. a wonderful building.
- 29:31It's gorgeous and it's amazing. But there is nothing about
- 29:36Jesus. So these two are the experience
- 29:39and the museum are our in-person projects and the fourth project
- 29:45we call cinematic Jesus. And this is what Kerry and
- 29:48Santiago were talking about. So imagine we Can do either
- 29:53we're still deliberating what the format will be, but imagine
- 29:56you had a 50 episode 45 to 1 hour.
- 30:00Each minutes covering the entire life of Jesus in drama, not a
- 30:07documentary. But the actual things that
- 30:12happen both let's say fictional and the real things so we can
- 30:17meet characters that Jesus met and so and we know the
- 30:23interaction that happened in Russia book.
- 30:25But then we can fictionalize what happened to these people.
- 30:28After what happened to Josiah? The blind beggar after the
- 30:32Sanhedrin left him alone, what happened to Zacchaeus, that
- 30:37basically gave up his fortune after meeting Jesus.
- 30:40Happened to the two courtesans that he made in Rome.
- 30:43And basically, for the first time in their life, they were
- 30:46treated like versus yeah, there's so many backstories, we
- 30:51can portray fictionally and then, of course, tell, you know,
- 30:54show the son of man and the Son of God and his ark of
- 30:58development, explain the things that we see in the arranger
- 31:01book, and bring those pages to life and share his decisions.
- 31:07Share his challenges, share his relationships.
- 31:10It's all based on the stories and the information we have in
- 31:13your on Triple J. J Benitez has done that.
- 31:17And the result was that thousands of people Luis Miguel
- 31:22included and others as well in Latin America because his books
- 31:26were never translated to many languages but thousands of
- 31:30people that read it in. Spanish says where's this Jesus
- 31:33coming from I want to know more and through that they found the
- 31:37Rancher book and decided to study it.
- 31:39We're About disseminating, the around Chapel, we are about
- 31:43sharing Jesus and his life and helping people form a
- 31:46relationship with God, but if they are called to read around
- 31:50your book, so be it will be happy.
- 31:54So cinematic is the fourth fourth piece, imagine a 50
- 31:58episode series. A lot of hours of film covering
- 32:03the entire story. It will take us years to do, but
- 32:07we want to start now and we feel that the Time is right?
- 32:11So the center for Unity is a non-profit in Israel.
- 32:15It's not an actual center. It's the name of our
- 32:17organization in charge of executing all these projects in
- 32:22the all the people in this school are working in these
- 32:26different projects. And then the worldwide Ministry
- 32:31of Jesus is a is a known as an American nonprofit in the United
- 32:37States. It's mainly for fundraising.
- 32:40And for overseeing the financial aspects of this operation.
- 32:44So this is basically an overview why we're doing things.
- 32:49What is it that we're doing? If I will just finish by saying
- 32:53that in these next 25 years and I think even before that, we
- 32:58want to reach 1 billion people and we think that this is
- 33:03ambitious but actually doable but just give us an example.
- 33:06The serious, The Chosen that started 3 years ago Go.
- 33:10They're going to release the third season, in November, the
- 33:15first two seasons. We watched more than 400 million
- 33:19times for granted. People like me watched every
- 33:23episode several times, but there's still a hundreds of
- 33:26millions of people who have watched these two seasons.
- 33:30They are planning seven seasons. And I think with these four
- 33:34projects, we you know, God willing we will reach many, many
- 33:39millions. If not billions of people and
- 33:42share Jesus bringing out to life from the pages of your
- 33:47Lunchable. It's pretty amazing.
- 33:50My first question is, how can I help?
- 33:52And my second question is, how can the listeners listening
- 33:55help? Fundraising, obviously, you need
- 34:00money to get this going and to keep it going.
- 34:04Where, where are you at with that funding?
- 34:07Let me take that question because that's one of my role is
- 34:10as fundraising. And yeah, we're fully set up to
- 34:14accept contributions and donations.
- 34:18Let me start with a little bit of structural organizational
- 34:20structure things that Gabriel kind of touched on.
- 34:23There is the last year when this really took a Came, it went up
- 34:28the next level. We knew we had to have nonprofit
- 34:32organizations to do this and Gabriel contacted a law firm
- 34:36there in Israel, that had been experience with creating museums
- 34:39and that sort of thing. And they helped us create the
- 34:43center for Unity, nonprofit organization in Israel.
- 34:46And then because of tax issues, we knew we wanted to have some
- 34:49way for people like in the United States because you know,
- 34:51they get a tax deduction for contributions.
- 34:56So we set up the worldwide Ministry.
- 34:57Jesus, we had a law firm here, help us with that so that we can
- 35:01accept donations through worldwide Ministry of Jesus.
- 35:04And then through a grant process, get those at the center
- 35:07for Unity to fund our four different projects.
- 35:10So that's the relationship between Center for Unity and
- 35:13worldwide Ministry of Jesus. But the best way for people to
- 35:18help, first of all, is through prayer.
- 35:21You know, prayer is the most powerful way of supporting what
- 35:24we're doing. And, you know, I think all of
- 35:27us, Here and probably most everybody that's listening.
- 35:29Knows the power of prayer when all of us pray together for a
- 35:33good cause and something that we believe is the will of God are
- 35:37all these projects working at the same speed.
- 35:40Some obviously have to take longer than others.
- 35:43Where are we at with each of the four branches?
- 35:45Okay, so I'll take that one. The metaverse is the software
- 35:49app we have been spending the last year in building, a
- 35:56computer model of the Conditions of Jesus, something that was
- 35:59never done before where things are connected to one another, we
- 36:04have thousands of data points. And then we can ask this model
- 36:09questions, like, you know, how many times Jesus was in
- 36:13Jerusalem and what happened each time in which dates was in.
- 36:18So instead of searching the pages we want your book, we have
- 36:20now a model that can answer that question.
- 36:23Or for example, show me all the times that Jesus met Met a
- 36:28person. Like what what?
- 36:29I called, as he passed by just once and what happened in each
- 36:34each one of those signs. Or for example, show me every
- 36:38event in which Simon Peter and Jesus were together and show me
- 36:42the list of all these events. What happened in each one of
- 36:45those and then you can start seeing the relationship between,
- 36:49for example, Simon, Peter and Jesus.
- 36:52So we have relationships and places and events and times.
- 36:56And topics as a big team of people have invested thousands
- 37:02of hours in collecting this information, which now we're
- 37:06building a software product to display in a database format.
- 37:11So you can do research in a study format, that you can
- 37:15actually see a sequence of things and learn a topic like
- 37:21Jesus on gender equality. Now, there's so much richness in
- 37:24the pages of the Rancher book about.
- 37:26What was it that he was saying? What was it that he said to
- 37:30different people and taught his Apostles?
- 37:32What was it that he did? Just like the example I gave
- 37:35before no heat treated to prostitutes as children of God
- 37:40and gun, it the young men that was beside.
- 37:43It was shocked. And that young man came from
- 37:46India. His father was very rich, he was
- 37:48probably living in the Harem. He saw women.
- 37:51Yeah. So he knew the meaning of what
- 37:54Jesus was doing and he was shocked and he Was not the only
- 37:57one. So obviously Jesus taught a lot
- 37:59of things about men and women, marriage family, not to say
- 38:05that, you know, he didn't speak specifically about lgbtq but we
- 38:09can in fear from the things that he did, what was his thinking.
- 38:13So this is just one example, a topic.
- 38:16We have hundreds of those. Yeah yeah so that's the software
- 38:21called the metaverse. It's the most advanced project.
- 38:25The museum we're negotiating Elise and we're actually now
- 38:28starting to design it. Stephen and local firm in Israel
- 38:33that has worldwide experience in designing museums and venues are
- 38:40starting to do this conceptual design.
- 38:43So this is advancing Carrie and her team already have been
- 38:48producing detailed budgets for films for us, and we're now
- 38:52writing the treatment. This is Violence of the film is
- 38:56a street, a document that explains the project so we're
- 39:00fleshing it out and the experience will be based on the
- 39:04museum. So, whatever we do with the
- 39:05museum, the derivative of that is going to go into the
- 39:08experience. So all four projects are
- 39:11advancing The Meta versus the most advanced.
- 39:14It's the one that we need. The least amount of resources at
- 39:18least Financial Resources for, but we need the most amount of
- 39:21hours Force. We've invested thousands of
- 39:24hours of ready. My goodness, you know, David
- 39:29Cantor released a video. I guess a couple years ago.
- 39:33Reimagining Jesus. It is a kind of like that the
- 39:37the not the document, not the 50 part series but the metaverse
- 39:42where you sort of get the walk through Jerusalem and Israel,
- 39:47the way that Jesus did is it sort of like that?
- 39:50Like you get to see what it was like back then through his eyes.
- 39:54That's a very good question. We're starting with something
- 39:58that those meta versus will exist and they're plural but
- 40:03they don't exist right now. Not that Jesus one and not the
- 40:05other ones. They're being built right now.
- 40:07So we're talking a few more years into down the road.
- 40:11So the first version of the Jesus metaverse is software app.
- 40:15You can run on your browser or on your phone on your tablet.
- 40:18You don't need any special special here and it's not going
- 40:21to be immersive in that sense, it's going to be experiential.
- 40:26But more with media that we have today with videos and art and
- 40:30comics, and text and audio, and podcasts and books, and
- 40:33articles. So you can think of it, as the
- 40:37research mode will be like a Wikipedia on the life and
- 40:40teachings of Jesus with a lot of media files and, and hyperlinks.
- 40:44So you can jump from one thing to the other and then the
- 40:47studies is are going to be a topical introduction.
- 40:51And then there's another layer to that product which is the
- 40:54community and social layer. Where you can interact with
- 40:57other people. And that's this is what young
- 40:59people today want. They want to unbundle Faith,
- 41:04they want to take a little bit of the church and take a little
- 41:07bit of meditation, a little bit of mindfulness and do some music
- 41:11and yoga and dancing and find God their own way.
- 41:15So our product is going to be part of that Trend.
- 41:18Yeah, in the back of my mind, I asked myself, what is the
- 41:22Christian world going to do with this?
- 41:24Because they're the Ironically, they're the biggest Optical
- 41:28obstacle. Go go figure, right?
- 41:31But it's because of that Dogma, you know, they want to cling to
- 41:35and I don't know how to overcome that.
- 41:37I woke up this morning thinking about that.
- 41:40There was an article in the paper where a gentleman wrote
- 41:44about how we should embrace Christian nationalism which may
- 41:48or may not be a good thing. But I think what he's saying is
- 41:50that the Christian church has an opportunity here to become a
- 41:54more political force. By using the power of
- 41:57Christianity. I'm not sure how I feel about
- 42:00that. It seems almost like a, okay,
- 42:02now we're trying to find a reason to, to exist, aside from
- 42:07teaching, the teachings of Jesus, you know?
- 42:10But as have you any of you had any blowback from people saying
- 42:13you can't do this. Why don't you do the Bible
- 42:15instead of the Rancho book stuff like that?
- 42:18Yeah, yeah. Can it can I kind of answer the
- 42:21head? Yeah well that's that's been one
- 42:23of the things that we found her too.
- 42:25Actually For a couple pass a couple of months, it's okay.
- 42:29And we've actually categorized as you enter book readers and
- 42:33Christian, Christian Christian. See you know, and we actually
- 42:38try to approach to look for donations and to look for
- 42:42contribution and to to make them part of our part of our world.
- 42:46But I think like you're seeing, it's a, I don't know, the deeply
- 42:50rooted Christians, it's the Bible, and that's it.
- 42:55There's no, there's no. No other reason out there and
- 42:57actually we had some, some, some people asking us, well, why are
- 43:02you saying this book instead of the Bible?
- 43:05And so we decided to say, you know, first we have to explain
- 43:09what the Rancher book is. They have to understand what's
- 43:11in there that it's not contradicting Christianity, but
- 43:15expanding it. And really there wasn't any any.
- 43:19We didn't find any benefit of trying to get the resources from
- 43:24them or trying to get. Involved in here.
- 43:28So that's really a question that you see what's going to happen.
- 43:31I think that the, the ones that are really ingrained in their
- 43:34really sending to their ways, it'll be hard for them to
- 43:40participate. I don't know if once we put out
- 43:42the information and we have the projects out there and they see
- 43:45that this isn't going against Christianity, but expanding it,
- 43:49they might open up, but I think it's a little bit of what
- 43:52happened with with Jesus in that, but the Gentiles were the
- 43:56ones that really took on on his teachings.
- 44:00You know, the juice kind of kind of want their went their way.
- 44:03You're right. I'm right.
- 44:05I think that's going to happen. And I think like we were saying
- 44:07this is year to younger people. I look at my I have a three
- 44:12kids. I have a 12 year old, the
- 44:13seven-year and a three-year-old, which, I mean, I can't just give
- 44:17them their, yeah, checkbook at their age, it's too hard for
- 44:19them, you know. But I relate what Jesus, you
- 44:23know, the Jesus version of Urantia book.
- 44:26The really the information from your engine book and I always
- 44:29ask myself, when can they have a resource that they can go to on
- 44:33their own, and they can really experience this on their own and
- 44:36I think this is what we're doing.
- 44:38This is putting a very practical way to approach Jesus and I
- 44:42think that's that's the number one way and how everybody like,
- 44:45Louise me and in the Spanish-speaking world came to
- 44:48read the ranch a book, it was really that connection that they
- 44:51made with with, Jesus, that brought them to this place.
- 44:58I think Kelly had something she wanted to say good Kelly Carrie
- 45:03Carrie. Sorry, my apologies.
- 45:06Well, from a production standpoint, I can tell you that
- 45:09Kenny Morrison director and his team are looking into all this
- 45:15and they're really excited about producing something new and
- 45:20something different that hasn't been done before.
- 45:22There's so much Rich detail that there are looking Into and I
- 45:27think that that will you know really resonate and be relevant
- 45:34to a lot of folks. So from a production standpoint
- 45:38there, also we didn't really talk about this too much but
- 45:40there's going to be live actors so it's a convergent of live
- 45:46actors along with the virtual production and it allows us with
- 45:52such to have so many efficiencies along the way.
- 45:55Along the production Journey, it allows the entire team to have
- 46:00input along the way as well in advance.
- 46:04And, you know, a lot of different approval, nice,
- 46:09approval process. It's solid that's part of every
- 46:11production, but it's very exciting to.
- 46:15They are telling me, you know, to have such new detail and new
- 46:19information to produce some very good.
- 46:22Anyone else on that question, do you think America is go ahead.
- 46:27Go ahead. Gabriel.
- 46:28I'll just say that. One quote, from the, from
- 46:34Cinema, from Field of Dreams, build it and they will come.
- 46:38So we're going to build it and they will come but also more
- 46:43practical. We feel that we want to focus on
- 46:49the Jesus before Christianity. That doesn't mean anything.
- 46:54It doesn't imply anything about Christianity, got it.
- 46:57Whoever is Christian, whoever's Jewish wherever's Muslim, they
- 47:02can have their own faith. We just want to share this
- 47:04person. This the particular life and
- 47:07teachings of this person and how the simple truths of his gospel,
- 47:13you know, that we are children of God.
- 47:15We are loved unconditionally. We are brothers and sisters,
- 47:19literally in the spirit. We don't have to think alike.
- 47:22Look alike, you don't have to be uniform to be United, right?
- 47:27And there's a few other teachings about love and about
- 47:30forgiveness that allow anger and about, you know, everything
- 47:35being about love, which I think he came a little bit early for
- 47:39Humanity, but Humanity needs to catch up.
- 47:42We've been catching up technologically wonderfully
- 47:45materially. But spiritually, we still have
- 47:48some work to do and his teachings are so relevant.
- 47:52To myself, you know, 15 years ago I was deeply stuck in the
- 47:56material world, no connection to God, deeply lost, deeply
- 48:01miserable, and I had to get a few flicks and Flax on the head
- 48:06and then on the behind. So that life will turn me
- 48:10around. So, I can start asking, you
- 48:11know, why, or what, what else is out there that are missing and
- 48:17then open up to a relationship with God, there's many people
- 48:21who are searching They they are hungry.
- 48:24We want to share some spiritual food with them in an appealing
- 48:27and accessible way. We're going to translate these
- 48:30products to every conceivable language that's a huge product.
- 48:33That is what we're going to do that.
- 48:35We're going to make it accessible to the hard of
- 48:37hearing and the visually impaired.
- 48:39We basically want any person on the planet to have access to
- 48:43this. The metaverse is going to be
- 48:45always free, no ads. We're not going to sell
- 48:49anything. We're not going to sell you to
- 48:50anybody else. So we do need help building this
- 48:54made of herbs. And what I do I just finished by
- 48:59saying, remember Jesus before Christianity.
- 49:02Jesus was not Christian, he had nothing to do with Christianity
- 49:07and most people in the world including myself when you ask
- 49:10them and they're not Christians, they will say yes.
- 49:12Jesus and Christianity are the same but it's not.
- 49:15True Jesus is is Before Christianity.
- 49:19So we will focus on that on Jesus before Christianity.
- 49:25If I could jump in here without of a personal story, a longer,
- 49:28your question. There.
- 49:30You know, the relationship of Christians with what we're two
- 49:34doing here. And but we had a fellow contact
- 49:37us, it was a gospel pastor and Michigan who was interested in
- 49:41the metaverse and wanted to know more.
- 49:42So I talked to him on the phone for quite a while and told him
- 49:46about the meta verse and what it was doing, you know, and I think
- 49:49one of the important aspects of the metaverse is it's not just
- 49:52an entertainment but it's a tool that people can use.
- 49:55Use for in-depth, study of the book.
- 49:57You know, you can, you can make all these connections through
- 50:00these nodes that gave her was talking about how, our, how is
- 50:03everything interconnected who was connected to this event.
- 50:07Where is this event? You know, what's what's the
- 50:10area? Like, and what's it look like
- 50:11and where is it? What's it like today and all
- 50:13that kind of stuff? But this pastor once I told him
- 50:16what, what the metaverse actually was, he said, you know,
- 50:20this is a valuable tool for him as far as creating his sermons
- 50:25and Things like that, he can go in there.
- 50:27He says I've got a whole Library full of books but I can't find
- 50:30what I need when I need it. But you know the way the
- 50:32metaverse is going to work, it's going to be very easy.
- 50:35He could see that it was going to be very easy for him to go in
- 50:38there and dig really deep into any particular topic and find
- 50:41the information that he needs to then take that to his
- 50:45congregation and he said the other thing.
- 50:48The other aspect of the metaverse as far as being a tool
- 50:52for in-depth study was that, you know, he has a youth or Youth
- 50:55Center where he helps disadvantaged youth.
- 50:58He said a lot of them have trouble reading and so, all the
- 51:01visual and audio aspect that's going to be in the meadow verse
- 51:05will help those young people find and discover Jesus and the
- 51:09Jesus that they can relate to. So I think that's a very
- 51:12important aspect of the metaphors I can't wait the, the
- 51:18movie think, I think is good to this this multiples, multiple
- 51:22series. Because I think outside of the
- 51:24United States, I think there's much more hunger for this.
- 51:28Then within the United States were to embroiled and silliness,
- 51:32you know, distractions and bad leadership.
- 51:35All the things that we know what is the, what is the thing about
- 51:42the Unseen? Father, I remember having a
- 51:43conversation with someone On that.
- 51:46This was it some point. You could see that we would
- 51:49build a temple for worship somewhere.
- 51:51Along the Sea of Galilee was that a part of any of this
- 51:54Gabriel? Yeah, yeah.
- 51:56Actually, this is that idea of building a temple for the
- 52:03Unseen. Father was the first thing that
- 52:05arrived many years ago, and I think that's going to be part of
- 52:12this Vision, but it's not something we're actively.
- 52:15Really working on right now in the beginning we thought this
- 52:18Museum will have a worship area. I think it should still have a
- 52:25worship area, we haven't designed the museum but it's
- 52:27easier for for us when we discuss these things with the
- 52:32Israeli government to say we're building a Jesus Museum, it's a
- 52:35better. It's an easier sell and it's
- 52:38also true that we want to build something like this.
- 52:43I think the temple will come. We will get the sign that this
- 52:47is the right time. We will probably have to buy
- 52:50piece of land around the Sea of Galilee for that frankly.
- 52:54Right now, nobody stepped up and say Here's 25 million dollars,
- 52:57build it for me. If somebody steps up and says
- 53:00here's 25 million dollars, build it for me, I will do that.
- 53:05But burying the fact that I don't have 25 million dollars.
- 53:08That means we have to wait until this is the right time and when
- 53:12the finances are there, it's probably going to be a good
- 53:16indicator. We can do the museum for a
- 53:19fraction of that cost. We can do the metaverse for a
- 53:22fraction of that caused the 50 episode serious is going to be
- 53:26the most expensive thing because film is film, but it's going to
- 53:30be something that will have so much impact because people film
- 53:35Fail and people love Cinema. Yeah.
- 53:37In Jesus still sales today. Yeah and in books and in films
- 53:43because he's drawing people to him and all we have to do is
- 53:47lift them up. So this is what we're doing.
- 53:50The temple will come. We are.
- 53:53It's in my mind. It's what started all of this.
- 53:57So I guess I needed to hear that first and then sometime later
- 54:03down the road, this will materialize.
- 54:04I can tell you another story being in Israel living in Israel
- 54:08growing up in Israel. I know the Sea of Galilee very
- 54:11well, been there many, many times, there's a whole area, the
- 54:16northern part of the Sea of Galilee, which is completely
- 54:19empty, its Rolling Hills with nothing, nothing nothing in it.
- 54:25And there's one road that drives through it, on the way to the
- 54:30other side. And I was driving with my wife
- 54:32Sandra several times on that. And I could see I could feel
- 54:38that this would be an educational center.
- 54:41The years to come beings from all over.
- 54:45The universe will come to this planet because they will know
- 54:49who Jesus is and then it will come here to find out more about
- 54:55this particular world. And what more befitting place to
- 54:59build such a center than that place?
- 55:02I think the tempo will be the Cornerstone none of that place.
- 55:06When is the right time for that? I don't know.
- 55:09But we will find out may also be a reflection or when that
- 55:14happens will be a reflection of how far we have come.
- 55:19Yes, right. Well I know, I know it's going
- 55:22to be unbelievable for y'all but we've been here for an hour and
- 55:26I want to give everybody an opportunity to say a few things
- 55:29about their involvement and any thoughts that you have about the
- 55:32Urantia movement. In debt before I do that,
- 55:36though, I do have a question for Argentinian friend.
- 55:39There has been a lot of discussion that I've had with a
- 55:41lot of people about the expansion and explosion of the
- 55:45Rancho book in South America, which is a heavily Catholic
- 55:50country of lots of little countries that are Catholic.
- 55:53What's the explanation behind the reception of the Rancho book
- 55:57and say, South America as opposed to Australia, Or other
- 56:03places where you have such a heavy Catholic Australia would
- 56:08be a bad example. Why is it so popular in South
- 56:10America? What's going on there?
- 56:12That we don't know what the hell do you mean?
- 56:17It's a tough question, you know because well, who knows, I
- 56:22think, I think we're passion. Will we have a lot of passion
- 56:27for for, for the things we believe in and I think the South
- 56:32Some people has these. These eager to believe in
- 56:37something greater and and, and once they got into it, they go
- 56:44all the way, you know, it's like they don't hesitate at all.
- 56:49That's, that's my experience, you know?
- 56:51And, and, and particularly, in the, in the, in the, in the
- 56:56arantxa community movement. I think that it has been a great
- 57:02job. Job of some of people, some of
- 57:05the people that are leading the movement in the in the different
- 57:12countries organization because we created like a Latin American
- 57:17Comedy, a South American community of leaders and we will
- 57:21be we will be in working. Like I know say like, Police six
- 57:30years, six years from now. And and, and will be will be in
- 57:39being very active on helping each other to understand what is
- 57:45going on in Colombia. What is going on in Peru Ecuador
- 57:49and we all, we all are connected and that helped a lot of people
- 57:55to be attracted to most of the Of the of the ways we trying to
- 58:02do. So there's a lot of going on
- 58:05here because there's a lot of readers who believes in working
- 58:10together and and I guess it is growing but only recently.
- 58:16Yeah so I don't know how I don't have that many stunts because
- 58:23she has a similar perspective. Yeah.
- 58:27Yeah. I agree.
- 58:29I'm actually from Mexico. I live in Mexico and I think one
- 58:34of the the big big thing that happened in the 90s was the
- 58:39Trojan horse eBooks by kata-kata Benitez.
- 58:42I actually read the book in English.
- 58:45I mean, although a Mexican I'm a bit better in English and I had
- 58:49American education, but everybody else that I know in
- 58:54Spanish-speaking. Got it through the the Trojan
- 58:57Horse. Actually some of Of our trustees
- 58:59and the foundation, like, Victor Borge, he bred the the Trojan
- 59:03Horse and he came through that. So I think this like Gabriel
- 59:07said is reflecting on what's going to happen with that with a
- 59:10center for Unity and presenting the Jesus story where people can
- 59:15relate. This is I mean this is the human
- 59:17part where you can relate to and that takes you to the rest of
- 59:21the range of books. So I think that's what happened.
- 59:24I mean, people knew through the Catholicism of that.
- 59:27They were brought up in to They knew Jesus and now they have an
- 59:30expanded and more accurate, accurate accurate portrayal of
- 59:36Jesus. That really we sounds with them.
- 59:39So I think that's that's the key.
- 59:42Very good. So thoughts about any closing,
- 59:45thoughts about your involvement, what you like to see in the next
- 59:48year and we can start with Carrie.
- 59:52Yes, thank you. Such a pleasure to be here and
- 59:55I've really enjoyed your podcast.
- 59:57Jim thank you. Just discovered them really if
- 1:00:00you can believe that. So thank you for all that you're
- 1:00:02doing. So you know, I think that what
- 1:00:08we're offering, what we're doing is going to resonate with with a
- 1:00:12lot of folks. I can just tell you me
- 1:00:14personally, you know, my family talking about, you know, young
- 1:00:19kids and such going to Norfolk Show non-denominational churches
- 1:00:24can be enjoyable and the fellowship with the ladies there
- 1:00:29and the you know, the worship praise and worship music is
- 1:00:33always nice. So, you know, it is really
- 1:00:37enjoyable. Enjoyable to be able to find
- 1:00:39your spirituality and so many different areas.
- 1:00:41So maybe people can, you know, relate to that.
- 1:00:46And what I'd like to express with regards to this virtual
- 1:00:51production, which We're kind of like the new buzzwords out there
- 1:00:54is seeing is believing so it's just such a convergence of the
- 1:01:00live-action and the virtual reality the virtual wall and the
- 1:01:05virtual production, it's so many efficiencies where we'll be able
- 1:01:10to do things and produce in a much more efficient manner with
- 1:01:16a lot of different convergence of thoughts and creatives that
- 1:01:20don't have to be physically. One place with such a wide
- 1:01:25variety of backgrounds and sets the we can change out basically
- 1:01:31within minutes and we can go from 1920s Berlin, you know, to
- 1:01:362022 Anchorage, Alaska to first century, you know Jerusalem you
- 1:01:41know within minutes. And so that's like the Holodeck
- 1:01:45on Star Trek, you know. Remember the holiday, you know?
- 1:01:49Yes computer. Yes, I want.
- 1:01:52Go, 1930. Here we go.
- 1:01:54Exactly. So the team is really excited,
- 1:01:59and what we can say here is, you know, seeing is believing.
- 1:02:03And I think that's really what we need, right?
- 1:02:06Yeah, it almost yeah. It reinforces, the the visuals
- 1:02:10however, that works in the mind and then you feel like you
- 1:02:13actually have a memory cohesive memory.
- 1:02:16Rick, any thoughts about again? I know I asked you this before
- 1:02:21but Need people, you need more people, you need will, we can we
- 1:02:26see anything now, sort of like a teaser on what you've come up
- 1:02:30with so far. Is there a place we can go and
- 1:02:33maybe get a glimpse of each of these projects and where they're
- 1:02:36at now? Yeah, the Jesus made a verse
- 1:02:40actually, Gabriel put together real nice prototype of that.
- 1:02:43That's out there. I think the best way for people
- 1:02:46to do that is go through the website, Jesus metaverse dot org
- 1:02:49and you can find links to that those kind of videos and that
- 1:02:52sort of thing. So, but the Jesus met of are
- 1:02:56certainly our project. That's the most advanced nearing
- 1:02:59completion. Okay?
- 1:03:01So years ago I did a a I found a software where I could go back
- 1:03:06in time and see If a specific date fell on a specific day and
- 1:03:11I calculated, I went through the Jesus papers and I started
- 1:03:16saying okay, well, I would look for something that said Jesus
- 1:03:19one here on Sunday May 3rd, you know, 22, whatever it was.
- 1:03:25And every one of them matched up perfectly to this software that
- 1:03:28gives you in the reason I'm asking this is because in your
- 1:03:32process of all these projects have you yourself, found
- 1:03:36nuggets? A validation.
- 1:03:38You know what I mean? In other words, were you in this
- 1:03:41process of putting all these stories together and these
- 1:03:44visuals and ideas, where you ever for a moment going, wow,
- 1:03:48this is just so rich in detail that it in the parts of what
- 1:03:52you're doing. Were you able to gleam even more
- 1:03:56validation of the Rancho book? And amazement at the authors who
- 1:04:00are able to Midway, ER commission, how they were able
- 1:04:03to get so much right in their in their narrative.
- 1:04:06Is that mean anything? Any of you sir.
- 1:04:08I think that's I think what you're saying there Jim is
- 1:04:11exactly what we're trying to do with the metaverse is help
- 1:04:13people reach that you know, I've been around long enough that
- 1:04:16those nuggets of verification came for me, long ago.
- 1:04:20No the Urantia book. One of the things that's that
- 1:04:23really appeals to me is it's the only religious texts or
- 1:04:28spiritual texts that names dates and places, you know.
- 1:04:32Yeah. We went through as far as
- 1:04:35something we were, you know, doing personally several years
- 1:04:37ago Go and pulled out all the dates from the ranch ebook
- 1:04:40specific dates on this day, such and such happened.
- 1:04:44The next day this happened and there's over 300 specific dates
- 1:04:48listed in the Ranchi boat. And those are the kinds of
- 1:04:51things that people can go into the metaverse and find, you can
- 1:04:54find those dates and connect all the dots and all that kind of
- 1:04:56stuff. So, go ahead, Karen.
- 1:04:58Well, I was just going to say it's just been exciting for me
- 1:05:01personally to see all these seemingly.
- 1:05:04Coincidences just popping and happening.
- 1:05:08As I help with this project, I have read a lot of Squire Rush
- 1:05:14Nails books over the years on the meaning of coincidences and
- 1:05:19he has social media and such he's a television producer that
- 1:05:23produced you know some children's educational
- 1:05:28programming. Schoolhouse Rock back in the oh
- 1:05:31yeah ladies are. So when only public television
- 1:05:34at that point was really doing educational TV and he It
- 1:05:38compiles, all these little stories back to stories, telling
- 1:05:42the story of all these seemingly coincidences that people around
- 1:05:48the world will will swear that it's the divine intervention or
- 1:05:53Divine help or the angels helping that they, you know,
- 1:05:55it's kind of something medical. They never go back in and check
- 1:05:58on this and they went and discovered, you know something.
- 1:06:02So I've read and enjoyed their delightful of all the stimuli
- 1:06:07Incidences. So, for me, personally, we don't
- 1:06:10have the time now, but it's been very exciting to feel that I've
- 1:06:15been on the right path. As I have experienced some major
- 1:06:21coincidences in the process of working with this team and I
- 1:06:26look forward to more and, you know, I think that's going to be
- 1:06:31a lot of fun as we continue along.
- 1:06:33We have a lot of things to keep us busy have teams of people.
- 1:06:37People that are ready and looking for work and looking at
- 1:06:41how is any of this been impeded by covid and the current sort of
- 1:06:45political tension that's going on in the world because we're
- 1:06:48all in our different parts of the world.
- 1:06:50Trying to coalesce. It has helped, I think covid has
- 1:06:54helped. We're gonna make lemonade from
- 1:06:56Lance right? That's right.
- 1:06:58Well, you're we're learning how to work together with teams
- 1:07:02around the world and work in a efficient manner.
- 1:07:06And You know, we can talk for a long time about that, but I
- 1:07:10think that in those regards, I think it's helped the process in
- 1:07:13the team. Well, I want to thank everybody,
- 1:07:16Gabriel, and of course, Carrie and Stephen, and Rick and
- 1:07:21Santiago and anybody I missed, thank you.
- 1:07:23It's been an honor to be here and I want to help I like this
- 1:07:27because I wasn't sure it was. First time I've had more than
- 1:07:30one person on it, the program. So it worked out nicely.
- 1:07:34I could go on forever. And I want to keep track of this
- 1:07:38project, so keep me informed. And then I can relay that
- 1:07:42information and Rick, any of you that want to come on.
- 1:07:45And share any of your own experiences.
- 1:07:47You have an open invitation and I hope that you'll take me up on
- 1:07:50it. We're trying to build something
- 1:07:52here. I'm shocked that we're not
- 1:07:54farther along in terms of awareness of the Rancho book but
- 1:07:57I'm not dismayed because I know how rich and complex the book is
- 1:08:02and it takes a commitment. You've got to be willing like I
- 1:08:05think one of you said you can hand the book to somebody but
- 1:08:08they got to want to read it. And they've got to be open to
- 1:08:11it, and they've gotta have a hunger for something.
- 1:08:14And I tried to tell that to my Kids in my people that I love in
- 1:08:16my life and they just you know, I just I'm more amazed that they
- 1:08:20don't want to know anyway, I wanted to just thank all of you
- 1:08:23for that and again I want to give out a couple of pieces of
- 1:08:26information. Call ears a phone number for
- 1:08:29you. This is seven six, five three
- 1:08:31six six seven two zero three that's Rick's number Rick.
- 1:08:36If you want to help call Rick he'll help you and then you can
- 1:08:40be a part of this project. Have you done it?
- 1:08:42GoFundMe kind of a thing? Yeah.
- 1:08:44Where people can. On and donate on the website.
- 1:08:47There, there's a donate credit cards and there's the address
- 1:08:51there to send a check. We can accept donations in any,
- 1:08:56any form, any any place in the world and it's Jesus metaverse
- 1:09:00dot-org. Jesus metaverse dot-org.
- 1:09:03I hope you found our time with these wonderful people here on
- 1:09:05the Rancher Radio podcast absolutely enthralling and
- 1:09:09thanks again to Gabriel 9 Berg Santiago Neyland carry blash.
- 1:09:13Steve marble Louis Morales. And of course, Rick Lyon for
- 1:09:17helping to put this interview together.
- 1:09:19No doubt, it gives me, great joy to see inside this wonderful
- 1:09:23project from those who are actually involved.
- 1:09:25And I can't wait to see how each of these projects come together.
- 1:09:29And what transformative effect, they will have in bringing
- 1:09:32people on this planet closer to God through the examination of
- 1:09:36his son. And again, for more information
- 1:09:39center for Unity dot-org. Rick is also happy to answer any
- 1:09:43questions and his number is 7. X5 3667 203.
- 1:09:49Again, that number is seven. Six, five, three, six, six,
- 1:09:52seven, two zero, three. Such a great experience and I
- 1:09:56thank you for stopping by this edition of the Urantia Radio
- 1:09:59podcast.