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California Crime | IVF Treatments Covered Under New Law · The Bill Handel Show

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Speaker 1: A M.
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Speaker 2: Six forty five AM six forty Bill Handle here on
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Speaker 2: a Friday morning, January ninth.
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Speaker 3: Normally we'd be doing Foody Friday right about now, but
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Speaker 3: no need. Also no foody Friday, by the way, and
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Speaker 3: or Amy, what what is that you're stuffing your face with?
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Speaker 1: Incidentally, just curious salad. I wish this were television.
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Speaker 3: There she is hunched over her desk throwing salad into
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Speaker 3: her face.
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Speaker 1: I am it's not I know, no, I just saw that.
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Speaker 3: Yes, it's very elegant, very elegant. Okay, what happened yesterday? Well,
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Speaker 3: the governor of the State of California, Gavin Newsom in
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Speaker 3: the State of the steam is state address, which, of
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Speaker 3: course with any governor, any president during a state of
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Speaker 3: the city, state of the Union, state of the state.
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Speaker 3: It's all terrific. Under my tutelage, everything is great. Look
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Speaker 3: look how great we are because I'm here.
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Speaker 1: Now.
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Speaker 3: We still have work to do, but for the most part,
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Speaker 3: you should be grateful that I'm here.
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Speaker 1: What a shocker, that's Newsome.
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Speaker 3: And I'm going to throw you some figures here, some
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Speaker 3: stats in this story because a lot of things are
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Speaker 3: about statistics. And I'm also going to throw you a
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Speaker 3: phrase about statistics that I love, and that is there
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Speaker 3: are lies, there are damned lies, and there are statistics.
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Speaker 1: Yep. And so here is what the governors is.
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Speaker 3: The governor said, killings in la plummeted twenty twenty five,
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Speaker 3: and that mirrors trends statewide, latest numbers that Newsom has touted,
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Speaker 3: and he did, and that's up against President Trump's assistance
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Speaker 3: that crime in California is out of control. Matter of fact,
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Speaker 3: Newsom speaks directly to Trump, and he is saying that
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Speaker 3: this image of widespread lawlessness that actually influenced voters in
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Speaker 3: twenty twenty four, Man, that whole concept is outdated. It's
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Speaker 3: time to update your talking points and to put in
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Speaker 3: perspective some of the numbers that the governor cided in
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Speaker 3: his speech yesterday. The last time homicides were at this
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Speaker 3: low in Oakland.
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Speaker 1: For example, the.
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Speaker 3: Reverend Martin Luther King was visiting Joan Biez in Santa
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Speaker 3: Rita jail to commend her on her being arrested in
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Speaker 3: protests of the Vietnam Draft. Now, how many we even
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Speaker 3: know who Joan Biez is? Anybody under forty any idea
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Speaker 3: who she was. She was an activist, a folk singer,
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Speaker 3: and was a a huge detractor, not a detractor, a
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Speaker 3: huge arguer against the Vietnam War. She was a protester
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Speaker 3: extraordinary and was tossed into jail for advocating the burning
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Speaker 3: of the draft cards, etc. Okay, the last time, well,
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Speaker 3: killings have been so rare that the last time there
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Speaker 3: were more killings was in San Francisco. That's another city.
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Speaker 3: Since Marilyn Monroe married Joe Dimagio at city Hall, how
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Speaker 3: many people know who Joe DiMaggio is. Everybody knows Marilyn Monroe.
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Speaker 3: We've seen double digit decreases in crime all over in
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Speaker 3: the state of California, and of course we have more
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Speaker 3: work to do.
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Speaker 1: That's a line. Now.
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Speaker 3: The crime rate is dropping and has been dropping, I
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Speaker 3: mean dramatically. Why, Well, there's there are so many reasons why.
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Speaker 1: It's very complicated stuff.
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Speaker 3: One of the reasons that maybe it's perceived that crime
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Speaker 3: is out of control is because every time someone, for example,
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Speaker 3: keys the car, it makes the Internet, it makes social media,
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Speaker 3: and the perception is that it's crime happening on every
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Speaker 3: street corner. Well, you know, burglaries way down, unless every
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Speaker 3: burglary is reported on social media, then all of a sudden,
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Speaker 3: the perception is it's way up.
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Speaker 1: And k Newsome, why is crime down?
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Speaker 3: Well, because of crime fighting cash that I unleashed and
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Speaker 3: had the California legislature unleash. The reality of all this
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Speaker 3: is so more complicated, much more complicated than even throwing
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Speaker 3: stats at you, if you look at those who actually
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Speaker 3: study the root causes of crime, and that's a lot
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Speaker 3: of people, sociologists, criminal justice people are saying it may
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Speaker 3: take years, decades maybe to disentangle the causes of this
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Speaker 3: urge of crime in the pandemic era and the drop,
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Speaker 3: the precipitous drop that followed.
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Speaker 1: We really don't know. Now.
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Speaker 3: The President hammered lawlessness in California and on the streets
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Speaker 3: during the twenty twenty four presidential campaign and throughout his
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Speaker 3: first year back in the White House.
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Speaker 1: And this is another one.
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Speaker 3: Crime does not exist in Republican led states, only in
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Speaker 3: Democrat states. Crime does not really exist in cities that
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Speaker 3: are Republican versus for example, crime in liberal cities. Okay,
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Speaker 3: And when he talks about Newsom, incidentally, he rarely does
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Speaker 3: he talk about Newsom without talking about crime and chaos,
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Speaker 3: and regularly threatens a surge of armed soldiers back onto
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Speaker 3: the streets. I mean, the president is a huge fan
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Speaker 3: of putting armed soldiers on the streets. And there's the
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Speaker 3: argument a lot of people go, we like soldiers on
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Speaker 3: the streets because crime does drop.
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Speaker 1: There's no question about it.
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Speaker 3: If you have armed soldiers on every corner of every
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Speaker 3: street by the tens of thousands, you know what crime
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Speaker 3: is going to drop. Now the other side of it,
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Speaker 3: do you want armed soldiers? Do you want the military
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Speaker 3: on every corner of every street. There's a conversation that's
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Speaker 3: to be had at a different point. So there's also
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Speaker 3: the issue of groups that have sprung up and programs
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Speaker 3: have sprung up to assist people that with homelessness, with
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Speaker 3: drug addiction, untreated mental health disorders. That also increases the
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Speaker 3: perception of crime. So has crime drop? Yeah, statistically it
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Speaker 3: has pretty dramatically. I mean, we're a better shape than
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Speaker 3: we were a long time ago. Are we out of control?
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Speaker 3: If we ever elect a Republican governor, crime will disappear.
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Speaker 1: I guarantee you don't exist in the state. So we're
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Speaker 1: going to see what happens.
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Speaker 3: I mean, in reality, California politics are California politics. It's
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Speaker 3: about as left wing as you can get. California is
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Speaker 3: the most liberal state in the United States. It has
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Speaker 3: a super majority of Democratic assembly people and senators in
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Speaker 3: the state, so it's gonna go left wing taking any position.
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Speaker 3: But the reality is crime is dropped. And here are
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Speaker 3: the stats. But you can read stats any way you
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Speaker 3: possibly can and want to, and you extrapolate if two
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Speaker 3: burglaries happened on that street, and we have X number
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Speaker 3: of streets in the city times two, whoa look where
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Speaker 3: crime is. Well we're extrapolating. How about the crimes that
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Speaker 3: are not even reported. Your house gets burglarized, you call
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Speaker 3: a police officer to come out. You want to report,
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Speaker 3: because the insurance company won't touch it without a report.
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Speaker 3: Touch the policy. Try getting a cop out there. I
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Speaker 3: once got into a fender bender with someone and it
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Speaker 3: was a I just barely touched the fender, and I
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Speaker 3: offered to pay.
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Speaker 1: You know, I'll just give you the money. It's not
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Speaker 1: worth going through my insurance.
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Speaker 3: Well the guy said, no, no, I want to go
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Speaker 3: through the insurance all right, So let's call a cop
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Speaker 3: and wait for a police officer to show up because
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Speaker 3: we need a police report. I stayed half an hour
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Speaker 3: and I got out of there and we exchanged information.
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Speaker 1: I called him, I said, did a cop ever show up? Nope?
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Speaker 1: How long were you waiting? Four hours?
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Speaker 3: And then finally we left still claim through the insurance company.
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Speaker 3: He wouldn't let me just pay him off. I turned
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Speaker 3: out to be three hundred dollars or four hundred dollars.
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Speaker 3: I mean, it was literally a nick. But the point
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Speaker 3: I'm making is because a police report was not written up,
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Speaker 3: does that mean that it didn't happen?
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Speaker 1: Lies? Damn lies and statistics.
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Speaker 3: Okay, okay, Now this is my wheelhouse, and this has
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Speaker 3: to do with infertility and IVF treatments.
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Speaker 1: And there's a new law.
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Speaker 3: In California that just kicked in and it's going to
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Speaker 3: force insurance companies to pay for in vitro services. In
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Speaker 3: vitro is how a couple or how a person conceives
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Speaker 3: of a child. It's done in a petrie dish. The
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Speaker 3: egg is placed in a petrie dish. The sperm is
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Speaker 3: then placed in the same Petrie dish, and hopefully the
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Speaker 3: two shall meet, an embryos created and then the embryos
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Speaker 3: implanted into the uterus, either of the mom to be
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Speaker 3: who created the embryo with her egg, or a surrogate
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Speaker 3: or an egg donor. I mean, there are many different variations,
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Speaker 3: but the bottom line is all in vitro fertilization. It's
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Speaker 3: all fertilization outside to the body. And my kids were
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Speaker 3: born at vin vitro fertilization. And to this point, you
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Speaker 3: know I have Kaiser. Yeah, they were not big on infertility.
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Speaker 3: It's not something that Kaiser does very well, so there
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Speaker 3: was no chance of that being covered. So I had
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Speaker 3: to write a check and it was not inexpensive. And
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Speaker 3: a lot of people who would love to have children
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Speaker 3: and could use in virtual fertilization as a means of
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Speaker 3: having kids their own kids can't do it. Massachusetts, years
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Speaker 3: and years ago allowed for or forced insurance companies to
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Speaker 3: pay for in vitro services. Well, now California is one
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Speaker 3: of them sixteen states and about nine million Californian is
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Speaker 3: going to benefit from this new law requiring some insurance companies.
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Speaker 3: I'm going to go through it in a minute, to
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Speaker 3: pay for the diagnosis and treatment of infertility.
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Speaker 1: Because here's the philosophy.
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Speaker 3: It's not just paying for in vitro is accepting the
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Speaker 3: fact that if people are infertile, that is a medical condition.
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Speaker 1: It's something to be treated.
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Speaker 3: And if it is a medical condition that has to
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Speaker 3: be treated, then insurance should cover it. And insurance companies
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Speaker 3: are wonderful about exclusions. They just there's some. The first thing,
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Speaker 3: the first page is what's what's excluded. Look at your
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Speaker 3: homeowner's policy. Look at your auto policy. We cover you
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Speaker 3: except for zipping right through there. Same thing with medical insurance.
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Speaker 3: In vitro is universally not covered. Now it has to
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Speaker 3: be covered, and it is expensive stuff. But the bottom
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Speaker 3: line is looking at infertility as a real disease that
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Speaker 3: has to be treated.
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Speaker 1: It's like mental illness.
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Speaker 3: At one point really wasn't considered a diagnostable disease, medical condition.
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Speaker 3: It's just it's not the same as cancer or broken
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Speaker 3: bones or decidius. Well, infertility is way down the line now.
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Speaker 3: A few things technically about in vitro fertilization is that
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Speaker 3: the egg is harvested, that's the worm that used, that's
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Speaker 3: the word that is used from the woman, and it's
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Speaker 3: it's not the easiest procedure in the world. There's a
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Speaker 3: very large needle that goes into the vagina and then
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Speaker 3: goes to the ovaries which have been super uh superovulated
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Speaker 3: with all kinds of fun drugs. And then the liquid
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Speaker 3: which is where the eggs are floating around in are
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Speaker 3: then taken put into petri dishes and the sperm is
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Speaker 3: placed in the petri dish and theoretically the two meat
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Speaker 3: and sometimes they don't, so there's another procedure they use
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Speaker 3: to insert these sperm in there. But what ends up
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Speaker 3: happening technically speaking, because again I am the expert on
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Speaker 3: this both my wheelhouses, I did this in third my
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Speaker 3: third party reproductive practice, which I did for fifteen years,
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Speaker 3: but also personal involvement of my kids being produced by
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Speaker 3: or via the infertility process of in vitro fertilization. So
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Speaker 3: the woman has to take the drugs and they're no fun.
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Speaker 3: The woman has to have the procedure done to create
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Speaker 3: the eggs and a lot of them, because the normally
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Speaker 3: one or two eggs are created that statistically you.
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Speaker 1: Want a lot more than that. So for the woman,
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Speaker 1: it is.
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Speaker 3: A difficult process, it's painful, it takes a long time.
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Speaker 3: Now let's talk about what the man has to do.
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Speaker 3: This is where I tell you God is a man
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Speaker 3: and not a woman.
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Speaker 1: Why is that?
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Speaker 3: Because the woman goes through this incredible process and the
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Speaker 3: guy goes in the other room with a porno magazine
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Speaker 3: and says, here you go and come out with your
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Speaker 3: little dixie cup and give us a specimen. It is
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Speaker 3: a very neat way to have a medical procedure done,
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Speaker 3: I must tell you. But this is really good news.
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Speaker 3: I mean, other than sort of the humor. I find
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Speaker 3: it humors, but it happened to me, by the way,
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Speaker 3: I'll never forget. I've been working with this doctor for
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Speaker 3: years and years, and when it finally came time for
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Speaker 3: me to produce the sperm specimen. And I've shared this
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Speaker 3: story before, the nurse handed me the little specimen cup,
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Speaker 3: the dixie cup, and I looked at her and I said,
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Speaker 3: you know, I've been practicing for this since I've been
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Speaker 3: twelve years old, so I'm sure I'm going to do
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Speaker 3: the proper, proper job on that. And they laughed. I've
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Speaker 3: been working with this doctor for a while. Otherwise they
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Speaker 3: would think I'm a complete dick.
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Speaker 1: Which I generally am.
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Speaker 3: But this is terrific news for people who don't have
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Speaker 3: the money and I'm talking about twenty twenty five thousand
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Speaker 3: dollars to create child via in vitro fertilization and the
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Speaker 3: acceptance of UH and having dealt with infertile couples for decades,
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Speaker 3: the acceptance of infertility as a genuine medical issue took
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Speaker 3: us a long time to.
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Speaker 1: Get here, and I am thrilled that we are. Okay.
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Speaker 3: Now, if you had to get Amy, I'm gonna throw
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Speaker 3: this at you, and I'm not gonna ask you because
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Speaker 3: you put the story together, Amy, what is the most
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Speaker 3: common UH crowd funding, both in terms of requests and donors?
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Speaker 1: What would you guess?
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Speaker 4: M I would say either funerals or medical bills?
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Speaker 3: No, No, the answers hookers money to UH, you know,
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Speaker 3: for people that are.
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Speaker 1: Desperate for UH.
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Speaker 3: It's not okay, So it's not You were right on
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Speaker 3: the medical UH. It is medical issues. UH, and that
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Speaker 3: is crowdfunding. Now sometimes the other one is funerals, and
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Speaker 3: you're right on that one too, depending on what's going on.
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Speaker 3: Number One, in terms of sheer numbers are and sheer
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Speaker 3: amounts asked for and the number of people is for
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Speaker 3: medical bills, There's no question about it. But it also
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Speaker 3: it depends on when when crowdfunding gets legs, when it
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Speaker 3: really becomes viral viral. Do you remember that guy who
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Speaker 3: owned the taco stan, That poor gentleman who owned the
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Speaker 3: taco stan and he was robbed and the taco stan disappeared,
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Speaker 3: And so I mean, how much does it cost, you know,
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Speaker 3: twelve fifteen thousand dollars to buy.
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Speaker 1: A taco stand?
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Speaker 3: And he was I mean, the guy had a family
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Speaker 3: and he was out a lot of money. They raised
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Speaker 3: about two hundred and fifty thousand dollars for him through crowdfunding.
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Speaker 3: He never had to work again. Happy camper. On a
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Speaker 3: note that's far more serious and far more heart wrenching
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Speaker 3: is the story going on about Nicole Good, the thirty
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Speaker 3: seven year old woman who lost her life a couple
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Speaker 3: of days ago in Minneapolis as a result of that shooting.
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Speaker 3: And so her family put up a crowdfunding request to
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Speaker 3: help the family deal with the funeral and other expenses. Okay,
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Speaker 3: any idea how much money was raised? Any idea?
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Speaker 4: Amy, I think I told you this morning what it was.
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Speaker 3: Oh they never mind. See my memory is gone too.
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Speaker 3: It's that's the other thing, is memory care. A lot
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Speaker 3: of crowdfunding requests for memory care. Lindsay's drawing drafting one
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Speaker 3: up right now, it's one point five million dollars in
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Speaker 3: still going for Nicole good one point five million dollars.
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Speaker 3: Two in ten US adults have donated money to a
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Speaker 3: crown crowdfunding campaign of some kind twenty percent. Amy, have
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Speaker 3: you ever donating money to crowdfunding?
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Speaker 5: I think I did once, and it was but it
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Speaker 5: was for somebody here for something. Oh oh, it was
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Speaker 5: first Foush, first of Foush. Oh Okay, got just really
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Speaker 5: severely injured in that.
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Speaker 1: Crash, right, almost died.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, but I think that's the only time I've done it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, I didn't give to him. I gave to
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Speaker 1: something else.
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Speaker 3: Somebody had gotten sick from too many burgers and was
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Speaker 3: having intestioninal problems and started crowdfunding. I go, yeah, I
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Speaker 3: got to help him out. But I've done I'm one
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Speaker 3: of the twenty percent I'd given money to crowdfunding campaigns,
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Speaker 3: and it's crowdfunding. Now people figure that number one is
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Speaker 3: fraudulent in many cases. Number two the crowdfunding companies charged
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Speaker 3: just a fortune and they don't interestingly enough, and participation
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Speaker 3: by far the most crowdfunders have small gifts, you know,
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Speaker 3: ten bucks, twenty dollars, and when a story hits them,
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Speaker 3: and I guess you know what just occurred to me
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Speaker 3: as I was speaking.
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Speaker 1: Here is a growth industry.
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Speaker 3: How about becoming a copywriter for crowd funding requests? Much
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Speaker 3: like when you go to a restaurant and they describe,
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Speaker 3: for example, you are eating a fresh garden salad. You're
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Speaker 3: not eating just a salad, amy, but it's a fresh, crispy.
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Speaker 1: Garden salad covered with dew.
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Speaker 3: And you know, arrogant, I mean elegant, just not arrogant,
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Speaker 3: I know, but you know elegant flavors, you know, subtle
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Speaker 3: flavors instead of okay, you got a piece of meat. Well, crowdfunding,
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Speaker 3: I would argue, would be the same thing if you
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Speaker 3: could write a crowd funding requests where someone needs the money,
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Speaker 3: and most crowdfunding is legitimate in terms of request for money,
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Speaker 3: other than the purely fraudulent ones, which we do stories
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Speaker 3: on those those do happen.
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Speaker 1: But can you imagine I.
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Speaker 3: Wonder if you can put a wine, not a drinkable wine,
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Speaker 3: but a wine into a request on crowdfunding. You know
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Speaker 3: we should do that. We should start a contest and
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Speaker 3: who can make the most What's the word I'm looking
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Speaker 3: for on this one?
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Speaker 1: I don't want to.
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Speaker 3: I know where I'm gonna go with this, and I
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Speaker 3: know I'm gonna get in trouble with this one, so
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Speaker 3: I'm not gonna do that. Are you ready self editing?
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Speaker 3: I actually have self edited? God forbid? All right, So
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Speaker 3: much for that. Okay, let's start with a basic premise.
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Speaker 3: And this is a great story if you're a dog
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Speaker 3: lover or even not. Dogs are known for their ability
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Speaker 3: to learn human language number one via training, and you
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Speaker 3: can tell a dog and call a dog and they
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Speaker 3: know the words. There's now a new study ground breaking
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Speaker 3: says dogs are even smarter than that some dogs, published
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Speaker 3: in the journal Science. I mean, this is really science.
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Speaker 3: The study found that a special group of dogs, known
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Speaker 3: as gifted word learners, or another way of putting it
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Speaker 3: is not handles. Dogs are not only able to pick
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Speaker 3: up words from direct interaction, that can learn the name
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Speaker 3: of objects just by overhearing their owners talking with each other.
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Speaker 3: Basically comes down to toddlers that are one and a
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Speaker 3: half years old. These dogs can learn new words by
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Speaker 3: passively listening to interactions between humans who are not even
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Speaker 3: talking to them. They're talking to each other, the humans,
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Speaker 3: and they're able to pick it up.
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Speaker 1: And here's what the study says.
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Speaker 3: Children monitor speakers, gaze and attention, They detect communicative cues,
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Speaker 3: extract target words from a continuous stream of speech. And
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Speaker 3: it wasn't They didn't know whether gifted dogs could also
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Speaker 3: learned this, and it turns out they can. There was
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Speaker 3: a study from two scientists, interestingly enough, from Soul National
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Speaker 3: University in Korea. I find that completely fascinating that came
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Speaker 3: from Korea, and I won't even get into the jokes
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Speaker 3: after that that about these dogs and findings show that
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Speaker 3: socio cognitive processes enable word learning from this overheard speech.
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Speaker 3: Under the right conditions, some dogs can present behaviors similar
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Speaker 3: to that of young children who are simply learning, who
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Speaker 3: are now learning words and cognitive behavior.
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Speaker 1: So one of the dogs.
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Speaker 3: In the study, by the way, it wasn't at Soul
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Speaker 3: University in Korea. I made that up actually from I
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Speaker 3: don't even know where these are Atavos Lauran University. I
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Speaker 3: guess that's French. Uh, yeah, it was a French paper.
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Speaker 3: And so one of the dogs named Squall nine and
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Speaker 3: a half year old male Border Collie from the US
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Speaker 3: participated in the study, and according to that study, the
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Speaker 3: dog knows the names of many, many dog toys.
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Speaker 1: So what the sciences did is tested ten.
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Speaker 3: Of these gifted dogs in two different situations, and they
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Speaker 3: addressed the condition where owners introduced new toys and labeled
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Speaker 3: them while interacting with the dog, and overheard conversation where
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Speaker 3: the dogs were watching as their owners talk to each
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Speaker 3: other about the toys without even addressing the dog. I mean,
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Speaker 3: if you go here, Fido, or my case, here, Izzy, here,
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Speaker 3: Tommy and I look at a dog toy and I say, hey,
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Speaker 3: here's a toy, and of course the dog's going to react.
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Speaker 1: But how about this.
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Speaker 3: I turned to Lindsey and I say, you know that
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Speaker 3: toy is really being chewed up, and let's replace it. Well,
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Speaker 3: not our dogs, because our dogs are idiots, but really
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Speaker 3: smart dogs will actually be able to pick up on
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Speaker 3: that and in fact figure out what is being spoken about.
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Speaker 3: I mean, that's pretty impressive. The dogs heard the name
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Speaker 3: of the new toy. Are you ready for this? For
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Speaker 3: only eight minutes each condition, and distributed those that condition
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Speaker 3: those conversations across the board in eight minutes. Then the
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Speaker 3: toys were placed in different rooms, and the owners asked.
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Speaker 1: The dogs to retrieve each toy by name.
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Speaker 3: I couldn't do that to my girls when they were
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Speaker 3: fifteen years old. They wouldn't do that for God's sake,
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Speaker 3: and dogs can do that. I mean, I find that
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Speaker 3: absolutely astounding. The dog's performances were even more accurate in
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Speaker 3: overhearing conditions, with one hundred percent right choices compared to
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Speaker 3: eighty percent in the addressed condition. In other words, in
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Speaker 3: the testing it was one way, and when they looked
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Speaker 3: at dogs who weren't being tested, these gifted dogs, they're
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Speaker 3: even more accurate.
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Speaker 1: Wow. And then there's a whole bunch of other.
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Speaker 3: Studies that we're done, or also other experiments that were
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Speaker 3: done where the dogs are just doing better and better.
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Speaker 1: That's pretty impressive. The paper author said.
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Speaker 3: These findings suggest that these GwL dogs, these gifted dogs
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Speaker 3: can flexibly use a variety of different mechanisms to learn
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Speaker 3: new objects labels. That's what the author And an a
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Speaker 3: theologist or ethologists, what the hell is an ethologist? People
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Speaker 3: that do skincare amy, you know they give.
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Speaker 4: You an ethologist.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I have no idea what an ethologist is. I
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Speaker 1: know the other one's an ethistician or whatever. I behavior
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Speaker 1: and natural or controlled settings.
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Speaker 4: Oh okay, well then that makes sense, doesn't it.
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Speaker 1: It certainly does. Now.
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Speaker 3: I had a dog, and I want to share this
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Speaker 3: story with you.
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Speaker 1: I had a dog, Suki.
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Speaker 3: Suki was so stupid that I actually took her to
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Speaker 3: a vet who specialized in brain disorders of dogs, honest
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Speaker 3: to God, because Suki was hit by a car. She
26:37
Speaker 3: was actually hit by a car and she went flying
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Speaker 3: forty feet, and of course took her to the vet
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Speaker 3: and the vet said that she suffered pretty traumatic brain injury,
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Speaker 3: but she's going to survive, and she is. You can
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Speaker 3: take her home and she'll still be with you, you know,
26:54
Speaker 3: and the prognosis until she dies is pretty good. She
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Speaker 3: just has some pretty severe brain trauma. Could not tell
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Speaker 3: the difference before and after the accident. That's how stupid.
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Speaker 1: She was. The dumbest dog that ever lived.
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Speaker 3: And I went back to the vat and I go,
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Speaker 3: can a dog be this stupid and survive?
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Speaker 1: He said, I've never seen that either.
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Speaker 3: What Suki used to do is after the injury, after
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Speaker 3: the traumatic brain injury, Suki would walk down the halls
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Speaker 3: and then hit the sides would hit the walls because
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Speaker 3: she just lost her balance, or she would just PLoP
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Speaker 3: over on her side and then get up, shake, shake
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Speaker 3: her head and go okay.
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Speaker 1: Moving on. This dog was so dumb. How dumb was
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Speaker 1: this dog? Bill? This dog was so dumb. We could
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Speaker 1: never really house.
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Speaker 3: Break her because she had a very hard time understanding
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Speaker 3: outside from inside. It was pretty depressing. And then Suki
27:51
Speaker 3: ended up dying and we put her down. And that's
27:56
Speaker 3: another story of how I put down Suki, and I'll
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Speaker 3: share that with you at another day, another time.
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Speaker 1: I think we are done.
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Speaker 3: Oh you're a cat person, that's right, Amy, So do
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Speaker 3: you view your cat as smart?
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Speaker 1: That's a good answer. I mean, yeah, that's that's very strong,
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Speaker 1: just plain adorable. Oh it's so sweet.
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Speaker 4: I think dogs are definitely smarter. Cats are sneakier.
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Speaker 1: I don't think, you know what, I don't think cats care.
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Speaker 4: They don't.
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Speaker 1: That's I think that's more like it. I just don't
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Speaker 1: think they give a rats.
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Speaker 3: They don't give a rats ass, except they actually do
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Speaker 3: when you think about it, because they're cats and they
28:36
Speaker 3: like to go after rats.
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Speaker 1: Okay, so how about this one.
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Speaker 3: Okay, I'm gonna leave with this Uh, cats don't give
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Speaker 3: a rats ass. Yet they give a rats ass. How's
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Speaker 3: that for in depth analysis?
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Speaker 4: Brilliant?
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Speaker 1: done with our week. It's been a hell of a week,
28:56
Speaker 1: and we're gonna be following up a whole lot.
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