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The Science of Energetic Healing - Episode 315 · Gladden Longevity Podcast

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  Aging is a loss of information, you probably know very well.
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  So aging happens at the genetic level first.
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  So first our genes age either by time, you know, from old age or damage, and then our tissues age.
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  And the same is true for disease.
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  It's first our genes get damaged somehow, and then disease can settle in the body.
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  So the genes are the key towards
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  keeping the body healthy, the tissues
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  So all the enzymes and all the neurotransmitters and hormones and all the proteins of the body are as you know, are copied off of a string of DNA that has the information just
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  exactly how to build that
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  so it's the algorithm that's very particular that is able to identify
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  the cellular communication that goes on, you 100 trillion cells, thousands of receptors on each cell membrane.
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  So there's a huge amount of communication going on in the body, you know, and I look at it as in a meridian system, that's where we conceptually pick up that information.
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  Welcome everybody to the Gladden longevity podcast.
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  We're age hackers over here.
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  And as you know, we're empowered by five questions.
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  How good can we be?
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  How do we make a hundred to new 30?
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  How do we live well beyond 120?
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  How do we live young for a lifetime?
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  And most importantly, in many respects, how do we develop a 300 year old mind to hold all that youthfulness together?
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  Today, I'm going to be engaged in a conversation with a chiropractic physician.
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  Dr.
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  Bernard Straile and he's located in New York.
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  And he's really transitioned from adjusting people into using energy and frequency to get results for his people.
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  He's published a book, 1000 Shades of Pink.
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  And you're going to hear us talk about his approach, his diagnostics, his therapeutics.
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  It's really quite a fascinating conversation.
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  I think you're going to enjoy this.
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  Welcome, everybody, to the Gladden Longevity podcast.
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  I'm your host, Dr.
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  Jeffrey Gladden.
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  And today I'm being joined by Dr.
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  Bernard Straile from central New York, Syracuse, if you will.
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  I think you're orange up there, if I'm not mistaken.
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  OK, welcome to the show.
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  Syracuse University Orange.
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  That's right.
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  Good.
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  So Bernard, tell us a little bit about how you got into your perspective on longevity, energy, medicine, uh chi, things like this.
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  This is not something that we were taught in medical school per se, but here you find yourself.
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  So tell us a little bit about how you got there.
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  Is there a personal story behind that or?
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  Well, yeah, of course.
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  Yeah.
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  So so I'm a chiropractor, right.
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  And I've always been a holistic kind of chiropractor.
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  So the first couple of decades, I was heavily into neurology and brain function and all that.
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  But eventually I realized from, you know, so the spine and the back in general, the spine and its musculature have a connection to the viscera, you know.
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  And so I noticed, you know, that certain people have these horrendous episodes of back pain, including sciatica.
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  And I saw patterns in certain people, you know, like every August or September, this guy would be down for two weeks with this serious injury to his back.
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  And I looked at this and this is really strange.
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  This happens always in September and so on.
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  You know, some people have it in the spring and
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  Anyway, I saw these patterns of inflammation to the back in particular, and I realized that there's got to be some other root cause that causes the back is just really a symptom
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  and sort of a victim of some inflammation going on elsewhere.
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  Like the kidneys, you know, they refer strongly to the lower back, while let's say the pancreas or the gallbladder go more towards the upper
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  thoracic spine and eventually it will tighten up the neck as well.
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  so then I've always been in search of the root cause of things like like just adjusting the same area over and over and over again.
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  It bores me rather quickly.
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  So I've always looked for the root cause and I realized that the root cause is inflammation for these back episodes is inflammation elsewhere.
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  For example, in the kidneys.
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  And then course the next step is, well, what's causing this inflammation in the kidneys?
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  That's causing this back pain.
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  So then you get to inflammation and that's, know, and then it turns out, you know, basically inflammation is this, you know, life happens at the interface of the environment
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  and the genome.
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  the genes have the inflammation accumulated
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  oh over let's say 380 million years on how to survive.
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  And of course the environment is the trigger that gets these genes to get involved as needed and turn on and off as needed.
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  And that interface, so the environment, we have some sort of control over, a big part of the environment is for example your diet.
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  But what we thought up until now is that the genes
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  we really have no control over it.
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  It was given to us by our parents or God and we have no influence over it.
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  And I have learned that that is not so.
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  Yeah, I love that.
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  So, you know, I think the audience understands that, you know, genes are a set of proclivities, right?
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  There's a set of tendencies that we have, and then we can sculpt how those genes are expressed based on the environment that we reside in or, or create for them.
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  And so part of the creation of course, is the usual things, diet, exercise, um, and then controlling the nervous system, I think is a big part of that as well.
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  There's some.
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  A lot of data showing, uh, genetic expressions influenced by the balance in the parasympathetic and sympathetic nervous systems, which also can modulate inflammation.
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  And then of course you've got the whole gut brain access, which is a big driver of inflammation.
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  And then you've got, uh, the aging process itself, which drives inflammation.
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  Then you've got organ dysfunction, um, that also drives inflammation.
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  So there are many sources of inflammation apart from infections or things like that.
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  And of course they're included as well.
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  So when you're evaluating someone, what's your assessment methodology?
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  How do you go about evaluating someone?
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  So I do a bio-energetic evaluation and I do that at every visit.
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  How do you do that?
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  I've developed a software called the IMATE system, stands for Immune Modulation and Allergy Elimination Technology.
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  So spell that for us.
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  What's that technology?
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  IMAET.
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  And imaet.com is there's a lot of information there about the technology and about bioenergetics and how this all works.
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  you know, once I realized that once I started investigating inflammation, I around the same time, you about 20 years ago or so.
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  Also, 23andMe started offering genetic testing.
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  So then I realized that we have thousands of mutations in our genome.
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  So those are imperfections in proper or the best gene function, genetic function possible.
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  And that's what generates the predispositions that we have, including then, of course, inflammatory processes.
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  So then I started focusing on, you know, what can I do about that fast and direct and precise?
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  so that's what I'm doing these days is I go straight to the genes and try to find the mutations that cause the dysfunction and try to resonate with them at the specific
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  frequencies into better function.
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  so are you, am I understanding that you're using the IMAET technology to give you information about genetic expression?
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  Is that kind of what you're saying?
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  Yes.
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  Yeah.
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  So, for example, an allergy or inflammation, know, it's I find that the bulk of inflammation is generated by faulty or imperfect genetic expression.
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  Of course, you can aggravate all that with your lifestyle choices, you know, but let's say you live just perfect and you eat perfect, you do everything perfect.
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  Well, people still have inflammation.
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  So that comes.
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  from mutational issues in the genome.
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  Okay, so when you do this test, does it give you a list of SNPs that are involved or how does it, what's the report look like that you get?
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  Yeah, well, you know, so there's so many different genes, you know, so may I, for example, mention the gene cytochrome 450.
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  I remember about 20 years ago or so, maybe time kind of is going fast.
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  Somewhere around 20 years ago, scientists discovered the cytochrome 450 gene.
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  It was the main detoxification gene.
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  And of course, it was done on behalf of the pharmaceutical industry because they were researching on what detoxes or processes the pharmaceuticals that people take.
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  And it's that gene, cytochrome 450.
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  And it was this huge discovery.
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  the meantime, and that's a phenomenon that goes on now at an accelerated stage or speed.
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  In the meantime, that cytochrome 450 has been
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  divided into at least 50 different cytochromes, are positions on that gene.
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  Each position detoxifies a different chemical.
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  Like Tylenol is detoxified by a different position on that cytochrome than ibuprofen, than narcotics, than what have you.
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  It's very detailed.
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  In 20 years, it's gotten extremely detailed.
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  And so this is happening in the entire genome.
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  So every day they're discovering new positions.
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  So it's amazing how specific our genome is about every little detail of metabolism and life as such.
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  So that's a bit of challenge to come up with because so genes are like strings.
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  The way genes operate or function is they're resonant.
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  It's not a physical process.
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  It's an energetic process.
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  It's an energetic process.
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  And they know...
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  that's a let me interrupt you for a second, because that's a really important point to make.
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  I think one of the handicaps that we have in medicine in general is that we're we're kind of thinking in Newtonian physics, right.
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  And we're thinking very mechanistically and mechanically like this.
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  The shape of this protein is a key that goes into a receptor that.
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  causes a chain reaction of mechanical events, right?
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  It's a very mechanistic, mechanical concept that we have, even when you're designing medications or supplements or whatever.
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  And yet, when you look at matter itself, we know that it's all vibration and it's all frequency.
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  And actually a human being is a constellation of a number of frequencies.
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  Of course, you look at a plant, a flower, you look at the table here in front of me, it's
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  has actually has its own frequency, right?
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  And so all of life is basically frequencies.
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  And, you know, energy for me is kind of like white noise, right?
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  Vibration then kind of there's energetic vibration, but it's a constellation or the concentration of that energy and vibration into a particular frequency that is then the
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  actual
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  definition, if you will, of that particular thing you're talking about.
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  each gene has a frequency.
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  uh so when, when you're thinking about it, even biochemically, and we do a lot of biochemical thought analysis here, we're really looking at frequencies.
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  And if you're listening to this podcast, it's important for you to understand that working with a practitioner that actually understands the frequency of what's happening, and not
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  just the mechanistic
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  elements of what's happening ah is a real advantage.
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  So it sounds like that's really the world that you're living in is the world of frequency and looking at the body through a frequency lens.
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  Yes, that there's literally hundreds of thousands, you know, I mean, every every atom has its own innate frequency and then you build a molecule, whether it's a protein or
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  something else has its very special innate frequency.
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  that there's hundreds, there's hundreds of thousands of frequencies.
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  So it's the ultimate precision medicine, you know, is to actually be able to distinguish
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  which genes are functioning properly and which genes are having trouble, you know, because there's some little quirk in there.
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  And then the other side of that phenomenon is epigenetics, that epigenetic change can be accomplished.
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  You can overcome mutations, not physically, but epigenetically.
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  And it has to do with the, you know, the DNA itself and the nucleus and the way
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  the DNA is rolled into these, is housed inside of the nucleus of the cell.
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  That's where epigenetics actually happens.
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  Yes.
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  And it's, um, you know, we know that there are our methyl groups, um, and acetyl groups that are attached to the histones and methyl groups that get attached to the DNA that will
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  either, um, cause a gene to be not expressed or to be expressed.
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  so modulating, uh, DNA methylation, which is also a marker of biological age, um, becomes important as well.
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  So I'm imagining it would be interesting to
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  hear more about your system here.
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  So you're using the system that you described as IMAET to do a diagnosis and it's printing out, I suppose, a list of things that are where the frequencies are out of tune, let's
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  call it.
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  And then from there, you're basically tuning the system.
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  How are you tuning the system?
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  Okay, so there's two steps and I don't print out too much even so we have some, you know, it's everything is a in progress and I'm not big in printing out big reports because if I
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  treat you today, let's say you arrive at my clinic and we get started and today we treat your lactose intolerance.
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  So that's one treatment.
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  So first we identify it.
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  You may know about it already or you may not know about it.
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  Then the treatment is a resonant treatment for the lactose gene, right?
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  That produces the lactase enzyme.
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  So all the enzymes and all the neurotransmitters and hormones and all the proteins of the body are as you know, are copied off of a string of DNA that has the information just
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  exactly how to build that
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  protein.
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  And just like in the background, your background has the, you know, strung of DNA.
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  Yeah, it's basically a information storage setup, you know, just like a microchip in a computer very much.
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  And which is why computers can be so helpful in interfacing with this energetic uh going on within the genome.
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  So that
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  So what's the actual, so what do you actually do therapeutically then?
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  I get it you're not printing out reports, but the diagnostics are showing you where to go and what to do, I suspect, right?
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  Yeah.
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  So what do you do once you know that?
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  So then we do what we call a feedback.
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  We used to call it biofeedback and there was a time, you know, 20 years ago and more, they called it quantum biofeedback.
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  So it comes kind of out of the history of that type of thing and science.
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  But I've developed,
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  so it's the algorithm that's very particular that is able to identify
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  the cellular communication that goes on, you 100 trillion cells, thousands of receptors on each cell membrane.
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  So there's a huge amount of communication going on in the body, you know, and I look at it as in a meridian system, that's where we conceptually pick up that information.
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  So define the Meridian system for the audience, just to make sure everybody's on the same page.
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  The meridian system comes from traditional Chinese medicine.
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  They discovered that 4,000 5,000 years ago.
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  Of course, didn't know what we know today, but they could tell that there's this energy flowing in the body.
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  It's not just everywhere.
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  It's in certain, almost like arteries of sorts.
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  It's in channels.
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  It's in energy channels.
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  And so we can actually measure that.
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  I mean, there are subtle energies, but nevertheless, we can measure it nowadays.
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  Even though it's difficult to measure it in Newtonian terms, physics terms, but more quantum physical terms.
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  then, so let's say, so now we just identified that you've got the problem with lactose.
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  So I happen to have the frequency of the lactase gene.
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  So now I can
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  So the second step of our session will be that I will pump that frequency of the lactase gene into these meridians, which then is the internet to your cells, which means inside
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  each cell nucleus is your entire genome.
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  So it's an avenue for me to access your DNA and specifically the lactase gene.
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  And I resonate with that happens to be, your general
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  energy type of treatment session is 20 minutes.
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  So when you say you resonate with it, this is with a frequency of light, a frequency of sound, a frequency of what?
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  Electromagnetic, what is it?
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  they're electromagnetic frequencies.
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  uh so we actually have, yeah, the kind of scalar wave type of frequencies, even though the IMAGE system has both, it has a mirror image of the Hertzian frequency as well as the
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  electromagnetic, you know, frequency.
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  interesting.
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  So Hertz is typically related to sound, sound frequency.
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  Sound is only from 1Hz to 22kHz, maybe 24kHz.
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  That's a very narrow band.
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  But yes.
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  But it's on the same band.
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  It's vibratory.
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  uh Yeah.
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  So OK.
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  So this is at a very low frequency on the Hertz scale.
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  then talk to us about the scalar element of that also.
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  So.
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  So, well, it's a little bit more difficult to uh scientifically explain that.
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  I've got some good videos on the website that explain it very nicely.
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  Some other people are better at explaining that than I am.
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  But especially to pack it into five minutes.
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  But the electromagnetic spectrum is huge.
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  You just mentioned the sound, the audible sound.
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  So you know, for example, humans go from a couple of hertz, we go as low as four hertz, four hertz.
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  Some people can maybe able to hear that up to 22-23 kilohertz, which is 23,000 hertz.
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  But you know that dogs, for example, they can hear, I'm not quite sure, but into the 30,000th of
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  killer of Hertz.
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  Okay, so there's all different kinds of bandwidth.
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  And then it goes into megahertz and gigahertz and, the whole universe kind of vibrates in the on those higher electromagnetic frequencies.
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  And that's where a lot of information is carried.
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  So, you know, we're talking about information when we're talking about gene expression and cellular communication, it's informational exchange.
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  And in fact,
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  Aging is a loss of information, you probably know very well.
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  So aging happens at the genetic level first.
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  So first our genes age either by time, you know, from old age or damage, and then our tissues age.
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  And the same is true for disease.
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  It's first our genes get damaged somehow, and then disease can settle in the body.
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  So the genes are the key towards
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  keeping the body healthy, the tissues
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  healthy.
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  the best way to and the fastest way to accomplish that is with the right frequencies.
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  so that's what gets me up in the morning.
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  what kind of what kind of results do you see?
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  Oh, my God.
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  You know, I'm not the bragging kind.
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  So.
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  But we were just talking about it, you know, like I haven't had a cancer patient, a patient of mine that developed cancer ever since I've been working at this level, which is
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  now close to 15 years.
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  Because when you work at the bio energetic level, you can detect.
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  For example, that the Epstein-Barr virus, the chronic Epstein-Barr virus has now managed to turn some cells cancerous and those cells are starting to produce an oncoprotein, which
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  I've discovered the frequency of.
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  So now we can pick up that there's an oncoprotein, it's called E7 for example, which is produced by a pathogenic
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  cell that has been converted by the Epstein-Barr virus because, you know, viruses cause genetic damage.
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  And making you aware of that, it's very, very super early in the stage of cancer, uh etiology of cancer.
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  So you can still focus.
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  That's another wonderful thing about what I'm able to do with this technology and this concept is I can focus the immune system specifically on the Epstein-Barr virus.
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  Because there's hundreds and hundreds, there's really thousands of pathogens out there.
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  And the immune system is just very busy just to keep you alive another day, right?
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  So to go after this chronic Epstein-Barr virus that's been in the system for 30 years, it's not necessarily the top priority of the immune system.
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  So to be able to provide that focus and then...
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  and then actually experience that the immune system actually follows that focus.
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  It's energetic, it's communication, it's information.
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  It's a wonderful thing.
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  Yeah, well, that's interesting.
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  then you can document that you've eradicated Epstein bar from the person or.
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  Well, we are getting involved in some research with some medical universities.
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  This is all kind of new and the problem is when it comes to research, if you want to do a research project, research is expensive.
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  So you want to invest like
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  thousands and thousands and tens of thousands of dollars into this research.
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  And at the end of the research is going to be, well, we don't have to spend millions of dollars on procedures and pharmaceuticals.
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  We could do this really much cheaper.
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  There's really no interest in doing that.
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  So it's very difficult to find money to do things smarter.
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  Yeah.
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  to be supported by either the equipment manufacturer or uh enthusiastic group of practitioners.
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  So scalar waves, I was just looking at that versus transverse waves is what we're talking about.
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  So transverse wave is like light, right?
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  Where it's basically, or if you shake a rope, the rope is moving up and down as it moves across the rope.
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  So that's a transverse wave.
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  A scalar wave,
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  would be more of a compression and rarefaction wave where it's compressing.
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  The wave is actually compressing and decompressing as it moves forward across the line.
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  And that's a scalar wave.
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  And that was described essentially by Nikola Tesla.
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  And so these scalar waves are able to travel very quickly.
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  They actually have certain Hertz that they move at, but it's a different way of carrying the energy, if you will, uh through the wave.
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  That's just like a pulse.
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  like a torque.
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  Yeah.
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  And it goes, it goes directly straight through.
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  If you're thinking about a rope, it would be traveling or basically maybe think about a liquid where you push on one into the liquid and that wave traverses through compression
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  and rarefaction as opposed to transverse motion, like a wave sitting on the surface of the water where it's up and down, up and down, carrying the energy forward.
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  So those are the scalar waves.
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  Well, that's it's fascinating.
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  So let's go back to some of your initial examples about uh people with inflammation and back pain.
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  So if somebody comes in and they have back pain, just walk us through the diagnostic process and then, you know, how you might, for example, focus the energy, the scalar
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  energy on the kidney, let's say if that's the issue or the pancreas and liver, if that's the issue and what you expect to see.
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  Yeah, well, okay.
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  So.
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  You know, so my focus is at this stage of my practice.
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  I will, you know, I don't adjust people's backs that are totally inflamed.
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  I refuse.
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  You know, the people that come see me, I go after the inflammation right away.
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  So from my experience, I can tell, well, if it's the low back, for example, it's somewhere it could be anywhere from the kidneys to.
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  the ovaries to the colon to the prostate.
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  It could be anywhere there.
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  The kidney is just very common.
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  So what I do is I run a scan on the eye mate and I go through the process because one thing that happens when you work or when your consciousness is at that level is it's not
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  one thing.
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  One of the problems we have with mainstream medicine is we need a diagnosis right away.
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  So we'll say, okay, well, you have rheumatoid arthritis or you have lupus or you have all these crazy things, right?
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  But that's really that that's sort of a disservice because that just puts you in a box.
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  What really is the case is you have dozens of inflammatory triggers, including what I call allergies, not just airborne allergies, but just sensitivities to stuff you eat every day.
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  And we have
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  dozens of infections.
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  In fact, just, you know, there's a hundred trillion, not pathogens, but microbes inside and outside of our bodies.
• 27:38
  So for example, we all have C.
• 27:40
  diff in our bodies right now, but it's in balance.
• 27:44
  It's not out of balance and a problem.
• 27:48
  So people that have a weak immune system is shocked for whatever reason.
• 27:52
  Of course, uh that's why C.
• 27:54
  diff, for example, is called a
• 27:56
  hospital infection because a lot of the people, it's not because they are contaminated with C.
• 28:02
  diff, the hospitals, it's because the people that are in hospital have no immune system left.
• 28:07
  So there's...
• 28:08
  antibiotics that basically strip away the good bacteria.
• 28:11
  so the C.
• 28:12
  diff gets expressed.
• 28:13
  Yeah.
• 28:14
  they're susceptible to an overgrowth of not just C.
• 28:17
  diff, but any kind of pathogen.
• 28:20
  Yeah.
• 28:23
  nonetheless, you have some diagnostic and then you're going through some process and you're not being reductionistic about, well, it's just the kidneys.
• 28:31
  We know the inflammation is generalized.
• 28:33
  So you're taking a more holistic approach to what's contributing to the back pain and the inflammation.
• 28:38
  But nonetheless, you end up with some sort of therapeutic response to whatever it is you're seeing.
• 28:45
  So what's that therapeutic response look like?
• 28:48
  So I put together a protocol of frequencies, right?
• 28:51
  So allergies are like my number one layer of things.
• 28:56
  so I've developed a method called the show method, is my own method of methodically going through your metabolism.
• 29:05
  so people may not be aware of that.
• 29:08
  You can be, or many people are, but you can be allergic to vitamins because
• 29:13
  So for example, there is no gene for hamburger, there's no gene for peanuts, there's no gene even for eggs, but there are genes for vitamin B1, vitamin B2, B3, B4, B12.
• 29:27
  Each amino acid has its own separate gene that's responsible for its metabolism.
• 29:32
  So I try to...
• 29:35
  you know, figure out what layers are most, are the highest priority in order to empower the immune system and also just to get the inflammation reduced and then do bio-energetic
• 29:47
  feedback treatments on those layers, like one layer at a time.
• 29:52
  And it adds up really quickly.
• 29:55
  Okay.
• 29:55
  So you're, so you're basically applying a series of frequencies to the body to address the things that you've identified, need to be addressed.
• 30:03
  So it's basically walking somebody, they're in the middle of a therapeutic session and you're applying something to them somehow that's walking them through a series of
• 30:13
  frequencies to ultimately address the inflammation that's present.
• 30:17
  Is that correct?
• 30:19
  yes, and the frequencies are produced by the computer, by the software, and they're applied.
• 30:25
  the device that's applying the frequencies to them?
• 30:28
  Are they laying on a mat or it's a wand that you're holding or what do you, what does it look like?
• 30:33
  Or it's in, it's in the air.
• 30:34
  What?
• 30:35
  What?
• 30:35
  Describe it for me.
• 30:36
  What?
• 30:37
  Well, it's generated by the computer.
• 30:39
  It's digital, basically, you know, and we interface it with the cellular communication system.
• 30:45
  So basically, all the treatments that I or the vast majority of treatments that I apply to my patients are informational treatments, are frequency treatments.
• 30:56
  So...
• 30:57
  that, but is it a handheld wand or is it coming straight out of the computer or what are you using?
• 31:03
  Well, so we have, uh so it's a computer and the computer is hooked up to an interface box like this thing.
• 31:10
  This is the iMAPro as a contact plate here.
• 31:14
  And then in the back here, we plug in a harness system.
• 31:18
  So when you go to the website, you'll see some pictures.
• 31:22
  I probably should...
• 31:25
  And by the way, I have a book, 1000 Shades of Pink, that explains it on case studies from my clinic, how this works.
• 31:34
  But we have a harness system that interfaces with the meridian system.
• 31:39
  And so that's how we measure and then analyze what's going on with the body and what's the highest priority today to treat.
• 31:47
  And then we put that treatment.
• 31:49
  together into a, I call it the treatment basket, and then do the feedback and feed it through that meridian system to the cells and to the genes within those cells to correct
• 32:00
  the genetic expression and get rid of that inflammation.
• 32:04
  so you held up a box with a metal plate.
• 32:06
  Is that metal plate what's sending those frequencies or is it hooked up to something else?
• 32:10
  it's the electronics inside the box.
• 32:13
  The metal plate is just so I can, besides sending it to the body, can like, let's say, put a medium on here, like let's say water holds frequencies, or we have uh bracelets.
• 32:26
  Can you get me a bracelet?
• 32:27
  You know, that's wearable technology.
• 32:31
  We have wearable technology, like hematite stones have
• 32:35
  So ferrous oxide holds frequencies also.
• 32:37
  I can put, so for example, I just developed in April, earlier this year, I developed a frequency of GLP-1, right, for Ozempic, uh which we produce our own GLP-1 uh peptide.
• 32:51
  Yeah, so rather than injecting uh synthetic peptide,
• 32:56
  I've developed a frequency to resonate with that GLP-1 gene to stimulate it, to make a little bit more of that peptide.
• 33:03
  And it really helps people.
• 33:05
  So I can put that chip here that holds frequency.
• 33:09
  holding up is it looks like a wristband and it looks like uh it's a bracelet and there's a clasp, but in the middle of it is a small metal about the size of a quarter it looks like
• 33:20
  or maybe a nickel.
• 33:22
  It's a Ferris outside chip that I brought from Germany.
• 33:30
  So the computer will uh imprint this chip with GLP-1 frequency, for example, and then you just wear it during the day.
• 33:39
  so you're taking that wrist.
• 33:40
  What he's doing is he's taking that chip and he's holding it up against this metal plate on the box, which is then programming that metal plate to carry that frequency.
• 33:49
  Then you put it around your wrist.
• 33:51
  And so does that then 24 seven, it's applying that frequency to the body.
• 33:58
  If you wear it that way, I've learned that most people, so if you would have a problem getting up at night and snacking, then you would wear 24-7.
• 34:05
  But most people snack mostly during the day.
• 34:08
  So I'm just astounded how successful this has been in suppressing people's appetite.
• 34:15
  But it's much more gentle.
• 34:17
  You don't lose 40 pounds in three weeks.
• 34:20
  It doesn't work that way.
• 34:20
  You you slowly just by eating less, you lose weight and it's much more...
• 34:26
  sustainable and healthy and it's yeah it's been quite uh cool.
• 34:31
  So it sounds like with this technology, you're addressing one thing at a time, right?
• 34:40
  Yeah.
• 34:41
  But I wonder about inflammation.
• 34:44
  Are there many different frequencies you have to program over a period of time?
• 34:49
  Or is it uh you can put in the frequencies that you need to calm the inflammation?
• 34:55
  Yes, but I don't calm the inflammation in a medical sense.
• 35:00
  I have to look for all the root causes and you can't treat them all at once and harmonize one layer of root causes at a time.
• 35:10
  It's a new understanding of what's going on with inflammation.
• 35:14
  It's not one cause.
• 35:16
  We have thousands of mutations.
• 35:18
  uh
• 35:20
  not one cause of inflammation.
• 35:22
  how do you address you?
• 35:23
  How do you, it's all sequential.
• 35:24
  You basically go through them.
• 35:26
  Okay.
• 35:27
  And so how often do you change out the frequency as you work your way through that?
• 35:31
  How long does somebody, mean, how long does it take to work your way through that?
• 35:35
  it's pretty much each treatment is a different set of frequencies and a different layer, right?
• 35:41
  So for example, B vitamins would be one layer because there's a couple dozen different B vitamins.
• 35:47
  So that's already a lot.
• 35:48
  You're talking about probably hundreds of genes just to satisfy or harmonize, I call it the B vitamin metabolism.
• 35:57
  then vitamin D, okay, delta has yet
• 36:00
  a whole other set of frequencies and you can't really do them all together.
• 36:05
  you know, we go through the entire metabolism at that level and but that's where the problems are.
• 36:12
  Nobody looks there but
• 36:13
  of treatment?
• 36:14
  Is it like a decade or you're treating them for weeks or months or what?
• 36:19
  in my case, it's a decade.
• 36:21
  Yeah, I've treated myself hundreds of times.
• 36:23
  But let's say it depends.
• 36:27
  know, I've treated hay fever, serious hay fever, people with all their lives, had serious hay fever and they show up at the office and they say, I heard you can get rid of hay
• 36:36
  fever.
• 36:37
  And I say, well, I'd like to do, you know, the show method and
• 36:41
  I don't just like to treat hay fever because there's other things going on too.
• 36:44
  And they insist on, no, I just want the hay fever taken care of.
• 36:47
  So said, okay, I'll do the hay fever.
• 36:50
  And lo and behold, one treatment and that hay fever is gone.
• 36:54
  So, but you know, if you come with a medical diagnosis of lupus or scleroderma or what have you, any of these autoimmune diseases, it's not one treatment.
• 37:06
  You have to go through the whole metabolism and
• 37:09
  And you're going to discover all these infections and, you know, the immune system is the only entity really that can deal with all these infections.
• 37:19
  And we can focus the immune system on one layer at a time because, you know, Epstein-Barr virus will have a slightly different set of genes responsible than, well, cytomechal is
• 37:32
  actually quite similar, but then COVID, the COVID virus or
• 37:36
  or staff or strap.
• 37:37
  Those are totally different sets of genes that fight these different pathogens.
• 37:42
  So you probably are treating people with long haul symptoms also, I would think, right?
• 37:47
  Yeah, so there you're basically rebooting mitochondrial function.
• 37:51
  why there will never be a pill for long COVID because I know for a fact that long COVID just means lots of infections.
• 37:58
  know, like the majority of long COVID people that I've treated have chronic Lyme underlying that they didn't know they had and neither did their doctors.
• 38:07
  And in order to get rid of the long COVID, you also have to get rid of the Lyme and all the other chronic infections.
• 38:13
  And then eventually the long COVID will just be gone.
• 38:17
  Nice.
• 38:18
  Okay.
• 38:19
  Well, it's fascinating.
• 38:21
  Do you use this therapy as a standalone primarily or what else do you bring to the table?
• 38:27
  It's my main tool to get people better.
• 38:33
  Now the software, the IMIT software has all kinds of other things.
• 38:37
  You can do acupuncture with it.
• 38:38
  You can even do chiropractic adjustments with it, which was the one thing that was most difficult for me to realize.
• 38:44
  sometimes you just have to do things in order to...
• 38:48
  realize that they actually work because they're just so odd, know, in our minds that we're so brought up that this
• 38:55
  try to try to figure out what it's actually doing, how it works and all of that.
• 38:58
  get that.
• 38:59
  Yeah.
• 38:59
  There's a lot of things like that.
• 39:01
  Right.
• 39:01
  So, yeah, it's quite fascinating.
• 39:03
  there's not a lot of published research on this per se.
• 39:07
  And so there's some skepticism of it in the medical field, I suppose.
• 39:10
  But, um, in your case, it sounds like you've had a lot of clinical experience that's been very validating for you and, and,
• 39:19
  helpful for the people that you're treating.
• 39:21
  So interesting.
• 39:22
  Yeah, we've got case studies, know, like 1000 shades of pink and in my book there's at least almost 20 of them, all different medical diagnosis and what really had to be done in
• 39:35
  order to get these people better.
• 39:36
  Yeah.
• 39:38
  it.
• 39:39
  Okay.
• 39:39
  Cool.
• 39:40
  And in the book, it, are you talking about the ways you're treating these things or is it just, more case studies of people who have this and you treated them and then they got
• 39:50
  this result or are you showing what you actually did to treat them?
• 39:54
  What you actually did.
• 39:55
  Okay.
• 39:56
  Interesting.
• 39:57
  protocol we had to go through, which is along those lines, know, specific nutrients and specific pathogens.
• 40:04
  So I'm just curious if somebody comes to you with long haul symptoms, how long until you get them to where they're feeling good again?
• 40:12
  Well, it depends.
• 40:13
  It depends how compliant they are, how frequently they are willing to come, you know.
• 40:19
  But basically, I tell people that have these long haul things.
• 40:23
  If you're not willing to commit to at least 10 treatments, I don't even want to get involved because we got to work through this.
• 40:30
  after 10 treatments, you will be able to judge whether this is helping or not.
• 40:37
  Sometimes you know on the first treatment, a lot of times it takes several, because there's Herxheimer's reaction, there's a lot to work through sometimes.
• 40:48
  Yep, understood.
• 40:49
  And what percentage of people do you find you're not able to help?
• 40:53
  Well, we were just talking about that earlier today, you know, because I said, you know, really, I mean, I remember learning in chiropractic school a long time ago that basically
• 41:04
  80 % of people get better without ever going to a doctor or, you know, doing anything about it.
• 41:10
  So if your cure rate or your success rate is 80%, you're really mediocre.
• 41:17
  Right.
• 41:18
  So, you know, our rate is pretty high.
• 41:20
  What?
• 41:21
  I'm sorry, what did you say?
• 41:22
  Our rate where we are able to help people, you know, I don't like to use the word cure, but get people significantly better is very high.
• 41:31
  Okay, above 80 % is what you're saying.
• 41:34
  Oh yeah, it's above 90%.
• 41:36
  Over 90%.
• 41:37
  Okay, nice.
• 41:38
  Okay.
• 41:39
  you know, I've been at it for a while and people arrive at my clinic as a, uh with, you know, they've been referred by somebody that has endorsed what we do strongly.
• 41:52
  And so that helps.
• 41:54
  Yeah.
• 41:54
  for sure.
• 41:55
  Well, you probably have a lot of client testimonials, so to speak, right?
• 41:59
  my main focus now is I'm teaching other practitioners how to do this and sell the software and stuff.
• 42:08
  But I still maintain my clinic.
• 42:10
  Yeah, got it.
• 42:12
  Well, it's very intriguing.
• 42:13
  I've been thinking more about energy medicine and adding that as a compliment or in addition to or whatever to the things that we're doing here.
• 42:21
  Also, we do a lot of interesting things and get a lot of amazing results for people.
• 42:25
  But we're always married to the answers, married to the questions of how do do it better and things like that.
• 42:30
  Right.
• 42:30
  So, yeah, so it's.
• 42:32
  would really enjoy the iMate system.
• 42:35
  Yeah, I'm going to check it out.
• 42:36
  I'm going to, I'm going to check it out.
• 42:37
  Maybe they'll come and do a demo for us here or something like that where we can get a sense of a little better hands-on sense of it.
• 42:44
  Um, so we'll see.
• 42:47
  Great.
• 42:47
  All right.
• 42:48
  Well, Bernard, we appreciate you taking the time to chat with us today.
• 42:50
  It's been a pleasure.
• 42:52
  Yes, likewise.
• 42:53
  Thanks for having me.