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T.I. Reflects On 'Trap Muzik' 20 Years Later, Claiming 'King Of The South' + More · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: Morning. Everybody's the j n V.
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  Speaker 2: Charlamagne the God. We are the Breakfast Club. We got
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  Speaker 2: a special guest in the building.
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  Speaker 3: Yes we do t I yo. This is a monument's
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  Speaker 3: occasion because August nineteenth, two thousand and three, the South
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  Speaker 3: and hip hop shifted forever, indubitably when trap music came out.
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  Speaker 3: Twenty years of trap music.
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  Speaker 1: Hip hop is fifty and trap music is twenty. Wow.
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  Speaker 4: How that feel? Man?
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  Speaker 5: I feel like a lot of hard work paying off,
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  Speaker 5: you know, And also I think it it feels like
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  Speaker 5: a lot of stories and experiences and lessons that that
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  Speaker 5: that were shared by so many people, you know what
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  Speaker 5: I'm saying, Like, you know, you have to be relatable
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  Speaker 5: to sustain for so long. So I mean, I'm just
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  Speaker 5: happy to be able to speak for people who needed
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  Speaker 5: to be spoken for.
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  Speaker 3: When did you get the deal?
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  Speaker 4: Right?
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  Speaker 3: Because you this Trap Music was actually your second album,
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  Speaker 3: say this was the first rolbu Face then you went
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  Speaker 3: to Atlantic? When did you actually sign the deal which
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  Speaker 3: deal to go to Atlantic to put out trap music?
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  Speaker 3: Because I'm asking that because I remember you coming to Columbia,
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  Speaker 3: South Carolina Big DM one on one point three. I
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  Speaker 3: might have been doing ten PM to two AM, and
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  Speaker 3: it was you and c Rod. Yeah, and you had
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  Speaker 3: on a great Champion hoodie and you had white labels
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  Speaker 3: on twenty You had twenty four on a white label CD. Yeah. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: And I remember playing it off the CD, like, man,
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  Speaker 3: it's hard. But I don't think I think you was
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  Speaker 3: in between deals at that point.
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  Speaker 4: I believe so, Man, I think that was two thousand
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  Speaker 4: and two.
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  Speaker 3: Yep.
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  Speaker 5: I think I probably I probably would have been working.
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  Speaker 5: We probably would have been working independently two thousand and
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  Speaker 5: two and going into the deal with Atlantic like two
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  Speaker 5: thousand and three.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, did they get it? Yeah? Did they understand what
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  Speaker 3: you were trying to do? I mean absolutely.
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  Speaker 5: I think the beauty of it is is when when
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  Speaker 5: we actually came in into contact with Atlantic, we already
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  Speaker 5: had ocean Like, we were already kind of moving around
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  Speaker 5: as you as you just described, getting our records played.
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  Speaker 5: We had you know, mixed tapes that we were pushing around,
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  Speaker 5: circulating through the communities, and and we was you know,
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  Speaker 5: we was, we was on the road, you know, working
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  Speaker 5: doing shows consistently like three two to three times a week.
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  Speaker 4: So I think it was it was a no brainer
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  Speaker 4: by then.
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  Speaker 2: Now talk about how how it changed Atlanta, music, change
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  Speaker 2: music around the world. Talk about that was it was
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  Speaker 2: that the mindset?
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  Speaker 5: And why, well, well, I can't necessarily say we went
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  Speaker 5: into it with with the you know, with the definite
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  Speaker 5: intention of such I think. Okay, So when the first
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  Speaker 5: album dropped, I feel like what that did for us,
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  Speaker 5: it allowed us to collect data, you know what I mean?
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  Speaker 5: Because okay, so le Face was dissolved and and la
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  Speaker 5: he came up to the New York and took a
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  Speaker 5: seat as the president of Ariston. That left us at Atlanta.
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  Speaker 5: In Atlanta, you know, kind of like, okay, what we
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  Speaker 5: do now. But what we realized was they still left
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  Speaker 5: some you know, a lot of resources and assets for
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  Speaker 5: us to use. So we went to the storage unit,
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  Speaker 5: got all those promotional use only CD We had about
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  Speaker 5: twenty boxes and those and all of the snipes and
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  Speaker 5: you know, the posters and the stickers and stuff. Took them,
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  Speaker 5: got in the cargy on the road, flooded the auc
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  Speaker 5: with them. Found you you know what I'm saying, going
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  Speaker 5: to Birmingham, Montgomery, Columbia, South Carolina, Tennessee, you know what
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  Speaker 5: I mean. And what we found was everybody who heard
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  Speaker 5: it liked it. Everyone who heard on serious fell in
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  Speaker 5: love with it. We just had to get more people
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  Speaker 5: to hear it. So what I would do is go
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  Speaker 5: to the mall are, go to the clubs, go to
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  Speaker 5: the college campuses. And I know it's a promotional use only,
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  Speaker 5: but we were selling them. And so the deal was
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  Speaker 5: I had, you know, I had a little a little model.
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  Speaker 5: I said, hey, listen, man, I'm gonna sit here with
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  Speaker 5: you and listen to it, and if you don't like it,
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  Speaker 5: I'm gonna give your money back.
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  Speaker 4: So we were rolling up schmoke. By the time we
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  Speaker 4: get through about the second one, they're like, oh, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: you heard.
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  Speaker 5: And I never had to get nobody the money back.
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  Speaker 5: So we went through all those you know, those hand
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  Speaker 5: in hand FaceTime kind of acts. And the data we
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  Speaker 5: received was the three songs that people responded to the more,
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  Speaker 5: let Me Still Okay.
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  Speaker 3: Dope, Boys in the Trap, do It Baby, Sticky Baby
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  Speaker 3: that was probably a close for that was one that
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  Speaker 3: was one in the clubs, do It Baby, stick a
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  Speaker 3: Baby in panty Popper, panty Popper.
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  Speaker 5: Number one, you got two out of three Okay, Still
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  Speaker 5: Ain't forgave myself, Boys in the Trap and Panting Pumper
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  Speaker 5: number one, Uh do it baby? Were probably a close forth.
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  Speaker 5: But so we learned that that was like, you know,
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  Speaker 5: that was the vibes that they were responded to. That's
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  Speaker 5: what people would gravitating to on the album. So I
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  Speaker 5: with that information, I said, okay, well I could do
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  Speaker 5: a whole album work for this and call it trap music.
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  Speaker 5: And so going into that next album, that's what we
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  Speaker 5: That's what we did.
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  Speaker 3: Oh that makes sense. So that so something like stillan
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  Speaker 3: for gave myself spawned what what what records for trap music?
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  Speaker 4: I still love you?
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  Speaker 3: I still love you? Okay, yeah, that makes sense. That
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  Speaker 3: makes all the sense in the world. All right, So
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  Speaker 3: after after after I'm serious, what do you think went wrong?
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  Speaker 3: When I'm serious?
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  Speaker 4: If anything, I think it was I dropped within a
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  Speaker 4: transitional period, I believe. You know.
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  Speaker 5: Le Face was an institutional culture, like a real uh
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  Speaker 5: a musician's university.
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  Speaker 3: So and it was in Atlanta, you.
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  Speaker 4: Know what I mean.
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  Speaker 5: So it was real boutique. You know, you could go
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  Speaker 5: in there and have a have a conversation with La
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  Speaker 5: about needing more money for your budget on a video,
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  Speaker 5: needing to get you know, more spins on your record,
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  Speaker 5: you know, just just things that the artists need to
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  Speaker 5: communicate with their label about on the regular you could
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  Speaker 5: actually go in there and talk straight to the decision maker,
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  Speaker 5: you know, without any interference or no no red tape.
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  Speaker 5: And when that transition happened and everything was in New York,
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  Speaker 5: now that was you know, a bit more of a commute.
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  Speaker 5: And I'm sure La was in a position where you know,
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  Speaker 5: he went from being the boss and really answering to
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  Speaker 5: no one to now he's in a position where he
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  Speaker 5: gotta he gotta put up numbers and answer to people,
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  Speaker 5: you know, to justify his position. And so the first
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  Speaker 5: thing he looking to do is, I'm sure go to
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  Speaker 5: the guaranteed hit makers that he already had. I think
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  Speaker 5: Outcast was on deck Tony Braxton, Ussher, you know what
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  Speaker 5: I mean. So you know this new kid, you know, yeah, yeaheah.
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  Speaker 4: It's cool.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, sure, sure, and let's let's get to the numbers.
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  Speaker 5: And I understand that, you know, at the time, not
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  Speaker 5: so much, but I appreciate. I appreciate that because the
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  Speaker 5: lesson that took from it. You know, we we had
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  Speaker 5: it going the way we anticipated, the way we wanted to.
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  Speaker 5: I don't think we would have you know, been the
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  Speaker 5: businessman and gained the independence.
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  Speaker 3: That we did.
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  Speaker 2: That was really difficult because at that time, I know,
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  Speaker 2: New York was heavy, right, that's when DMX was out
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  Speaker 2: at that time.
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  Speaker 1: Sure, I think a job rule was smoking was fifty
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  Speaker 1: smoking in two thousand and.
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  Speaker 2: One, the mix tape stuff. But Rockefeller was real big
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  Speaker 2: at that time. Was that very difficult to break in
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  Speaker 2: during that time?
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  Speaker 4: No, I don't think so.
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  Speaker 5: I think the South's advantage was our ways we could
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  Speaker 5: do numbers on just in the South. You know what
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  Speaker 5: I mean, of course, was what we needed. You know,
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  Speaker 5: what we needed to broaden our reach to New York
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  Speaker 5: for was more like visibility. But once you became known
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  Speaker 5: and and and sought after in the South, and then
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  Speaker 5: the mean whiz right there. So you know, you got
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  Speaker 5: artists like you know, ghetto boys U GK, you know
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  Speaker 5: what I mean, like eight ball, MJG. You know, certain
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  Speaker 5: people that just did numbers only focusing on the South.
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  Speaker 5: Uh So I never felt, you know that it would
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  Speaker 5: have been difficult to to really make a dent. I
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  Speaker 5: just knew, you know, in order to kind of like
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  Speaker 5: you know, get MTV or get covers of the source
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  Speaker 5: or you know what I'm saying stuff like that, that's
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  Speaker 5: what we kind of needed.
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  Speaker 4: New York for.
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  Speaker 3: And what made you do that?
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  Speaker 2: Because because back then doing the clubs in New York,
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  Speaker 2: a lot of Southern artists, you wouldn't see like a
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  Speaker 2: lot of those artists that you just named, I've never.
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  Speaker 1: Seen in the club, but I would see you in
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  Speaker 1: the club.
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  Speaker 4: Years later.
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  Speaker 2: I would see like your jeezy's in the club. But
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  Speaker 2: what made you say Now I got to attack everywhere
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  Speaker 2: and attack every club and attack every But it was.
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  Speaker 5: That that wasn't that wasn't a stress. I mean I
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  Speaker 5: never really made a conscious effort to do anything. I
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  Speaker 5: just I just I just went and reached the people
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  Speaker 5: wherever we was at, you know what I mean, Like
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  Speaker 5: if we had meetings in New York and the club
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  Speaker 5: going on in New York. But I don't have uh,
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  Speaker 5: I have a familiarity with the city. I gotta dual citizenship, you.
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  Speaker 4: Know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, you know, I come up here and move around,
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  Speaker 5: uh you know, effortlessly. I ain't really I wasn't really
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  Speaker 5: tripping though of it. Your father from here, well he
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  Speaker 5: moves here, you know what I mean, he from He
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  Speaker 5: from Atlanta, but he moved here when he was like
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  Speaker 5: twenty in the fifties. Yeah, and he uh had been
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  Speaker 5: up here all my life until he passed.
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  Speaker 3: You know, man, the reason I loved this conversation because
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  Speaker 3: you know, the older we get, we really got to
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  Speaker 3: start preserving culture and start really putting the proper narratives
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  Speaker 3: out there. Trap music is so important, and it's one
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  Speaker 3: of the reasons I got you on the Mount Rushmore
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  Speaker 3: the South period, because there was no people was using
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  Speaker 3: the term trap but not to say this is trap
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  Speaker 3: music before trap music when it comes to people like
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  Speaker 3: you know, drama and just the way even Gez did
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  Speaker 3: the mixtape thing you did that.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I had I had some uh I had.
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  Speaker 4: I mean I laid some some fundamental work.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, in the streetsballume one through one through one through three,
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  Speaker 3: you know, and there's no g Z, there's no Gucci,
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  Speaker 3: there's no future, There's there's not that shift in Atlanta
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  Speaker 3: sound without TI and trap music. And I think that
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  Speaker 3: needs to be stated.
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  Speaker 4: That's that's you know, I'm humbled by that. I'm humbled
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  Speaker 4: by that. I mean, I think, man, you.
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  Speaker 5: Know, everybody plays a part and it has a position,
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  Speaker 5: and I just did my part, you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 5: I had no idea to what I was doing with
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  Speaker 5: means so much to so many, so many people would
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  Speaker 5: be able to relate and correspond with their own contributions
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  Speaker 5: that would reach the masses and turn into what's turned
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  Speaker 5: into today. It's just, you know, it's just a blessing
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  Speaker 5: to be, you know, to be a piece of such
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  Speaker 5: a magnificent machine.
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  Speaker 3: Do you think you're the first to do what we
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  Speaker 3: know is trap music or the first to label it
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  Speaker 3: is trap music?
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  Speaker 5: I mean, well, definitely the first to label it is
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  Speaker 5: trap music. And of course we've all heard, you know,
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  Speaker 5: songs about drugs and drug.
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  Speaker 3: Dealers, but you know, with the.
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  Speaker 5: With the extra special attention to the details of the nuances,
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  Speaker 5: I think, you know, that's kind of I give you
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  Speaker 5: an example.
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  Speaker 3: You've heard about You've heard records about.
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  Speaker 5: Rappers rapping about being hit me or carrying out howmicide
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  Speaker 5: and so on and so forth.
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  Speaker 3: But we have never heard like.
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  Speaker 5: The attention to detail of the nuances the way we
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  Speaker 5: did when Scuffey said, never seen a man crack till
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  Speaker 5: I see what I man like getting into like you know,
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  Speaker 5: go and scratching beneath the surface, and you know, lifting
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  Speaker 5: up layers to find that, like what's in the heart
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  Speaker 5: and the mindset? And you know what level of consciousness
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  Speaker 5: are these people on when they making these decisions, and
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  Speaker 5: how does it affect them and their families? You know
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  Speaker 5: what I'm saying, Like all of those things, I don't think,
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  Speaker 5: you know, with the extra special attention to detail, I
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  Speaker 5: don't think it has been kind of presented that way.
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  Speaker 2: I was gonna ask, you know, why did you see
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  Speaker 2: it so as important to make sure people knew about
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  Speaker 2: it right?
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  Speaker 1: Because you know, fifty years of hip hop was a
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  Speaker 1: couple of days ago, and.
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  Speaker 2: There's so many people that don't know about hip hop,
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  Speaker 2: how it was created, where it was created, or anything
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  Speaker 2: like that, how the first sound, the first group to
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  Speaker 2: go platinum, in the first.
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  Speaker 3: Group to be on the top forty.
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  Speaker 2: But you thought about this years ago, which is probably
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  Speaker 2: why you created the Trap Museum where people can actually
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  Speaker 2: see the history of what it is and they can
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  Speaker 2: actually know the knowledge. Why did you see that so
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  Speaker 2: early for people to make sure they have that knowledge,
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  Speaker 2: they understand that they.
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  Speaker 4: Know I mean, well a few things. So one we
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  Speaker 4: were we were.
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  Speaker 5: My man may know, Hey, for what was We was
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  Speaker 5: brainstorming and collaborating no ideas of how to celebrate the
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  Speaker 5: fifteenth year anniversary of trap music, and you know, we
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  Speaker 5: wanted to do something different, not just a show we
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  Speaker 5: perform and this, that and the other. We wanted to
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  Speaker 5: really really commemorate it with something substantial.
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  Speaker 3: U And one of the you know, one of the
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  Speaker 3: over the top.
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  Speaker 5: Ambitious ideas in the room was a museum, a trap
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  Speaker 5: music museum.
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  Speaker 4: And I love the name. It just has sort of
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  Speaker 4: a ring to it.
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  Speaker 5: But I couldn't wrap my mind around because when I'm
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  Speaker 5: thinking of the museum, I'm thinking of Smithsonian, you know
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  Speaker 5: what I'm saying, Like, I'm thinking something a lot more grandiose.
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  Speaker 5: And then I started looking at other types of museums.
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  Speaker 5: You know, they had these pop up museums. You know,
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  Speaker 5: they might just go to a storefront and do a
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  Speaker 5: pop up museum. And so at that point, simultaneously, I
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  Speaker 5: was also acquiring commercial.
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  Speaker 4: Real estate in the city. So I just bought this building.
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  Speaker 4: I didn't know what to do with it.
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  Speaker 5: I was gonna it was so so I bought it
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  Speaker 5: because it was so close to the stadium, the Mercedes
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  Speaker 5: Being's done and the super Bowl was coming, and I figured, Okay,
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  Speaker 5: we could use this building, probably lease it out to
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  Speaker 5: ESPN and Fox Sports infl something like that, get some
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  Speaker 5: quick money. But then as I started walking around it,
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  Speaker 5: I was like, nah, you know what, it could be
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  Speaker 5: a museum. And you know, I think that's kind of
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  Speaker 5: when it came to life when I when I heard
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  Speaker 5: the idea and I dismissed it, it was like, that'll
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  Speaker 5: never have it. Then I walked in the building after
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  Speaker 5: I just bought it, and the idea was just in
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  Speaker 5: my head and I was walking around kind of envisioning, Okay,
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  Speaker 5: yeah we could And I think that's the And and
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  Speaker 5: also it was around the time where there was a
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  Speaker 5: lot of questions and a lot of you know, speculation
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  Speaker 5: floating around in the air back who did and didn't
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  Speaker 5: you know, have you know, the the a hand in
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  Speaker 5: creating trap music?
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  Speaker 3: Who who was and wasn't responsible?
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  Speaker 5: So I felt like it was a teachable moment, uh
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  Speaker 5: And you know, and nothing like only a food disputes facts.
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  Speaker 3: That's another thing. You was early on real estate finish
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  Speaker 3: and I just know that for handing in your wraps
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  Speaker 3: and I remember it was a it was something you
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  Speaker 3: did on MTV one time when you were showing people.
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  Speaker 4: Around and showed the houses and whatnot.
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  Speaker 3: How did you know that you want to invest in
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  Speaker 3: Atlanta way back then?
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  Speaker 4: Man? To be honest, man in Atlanta. You know, the
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  Speaker 4: one thing that we have.
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  Speaker 5: I feel like they probably set such apart from a
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  Speaker 5: lot of cities is examples of entrepreneurship in our communities,
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  Speaker 5: not just famous people, not just rich people. We have
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  Speaker 5: examples of entrepreneurship and how to take take funds. Instead
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  Speaker 5: of most people say, okay, you put this much in
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  Speaker 5: your checking this much in your savings, and well the
• 16:36
  Speaker 5: money they're post to go in the savings, we go
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  Speaker 5: put it in. We buy a house and flip the
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  Speaker 5: house and take the proface and do some more stuff
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  Speaker 5: with it.
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  Speaker 4: And you know what I mean. And you know, we
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  Speaker 4: learned from people like Ceball.
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  Speaker 5: We learned from people like Cherry, my Pops, his brothers,
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  Speaker 5: my uncles, you know, Dereck Dials. There's so many people
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  Speaker 5: in the community that you know, just laid the fundamental
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  Speaker 5: groundwork of of of what to do when you get
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  Speaker 5: the money, you know what I mean. And when I
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  Speaker 5: first got my piece of paper, my first piece of paper,
• 17:16
  Speaker 5: my uncle he was getting out of prison, and you know,
• 17:19
  Speaker 5: he just hit me up for forty thousand. I ain't
• 17:22
  Speaker 5: have a sixty, you know, but he was just coming home,
• 17:26
  Speaker 5: and you know, I didn't even think about it. I
• 17:28
  Speaker 5: gave it to him, just gave it to him to give.
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: It was invest in his nun.
• 17:32
  Speaker 5: Well, he just asked for it, I tell you, so
• 17:35
  Speaker 5: I gave it to him, and I went and took
• 17:38
  Speaker 5: the rest and did what I needed to do.
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: For myself.
• 17:42
  Speaker 5: And then, like I say, maybe four to six months later,
• 17:48
  Speaker 5: he took me to a house I used to see
• 17:49
  Speaker 5: a dope and out of it.
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: You know, I looked at it. I was like, damn,
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: they got off. They got off the dope. He was like, man,
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: now now they ain't in no no more. I bought
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: that house.
• 18:00
  Speaker 5: What that money you gave me? And we we, uh,
• 18:02
  Speaker 5: this is what we did, you know what I mean.
• 18:04
  Speaker 5: We renovated it, sold it. It's a family living in there.
• 18:09
  Speaker 5: And that made me feel good. And he said, well,
• 18:11
  Speaker 5: now I can give you money back, and I reached
• 18:14
  Speaker 5: for He said, or we can get another house, you know,
• 18:19
  Speaker 5: and he said I might be able to get two
• 18:20
  Speaker 5: houses in there. So we got two houses after that
• 18:22
  Speaker 5: and then we started doing duplexes, triplexes, and for you
• 18:26
  Speaker 5: know it, we had.
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: Them built a hundred houses. Dam yeah, before the crash
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: of the market.
• 18:30
  Speaker 5: The thing is, though, after I seen that house, you know,
• 18:33
  Speaker 5: it was renovated and the family was in there, came
• 18:36
  Speaker 5: back maybe I guess maybe ten to sixteen months later,
• 18:41
  Speaker 5: and the how we're back dilapidated ran down again. I said, Man,
• 18:44
  Speaker 5: we're gonna have to we have to work faster than this. So,
• 18:47
  Speaker 5: I mean, that's you know, that's what got me into
• 18:49
  Speaker 5: commercial real estate, multi families and so on and so forth.
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: Is it hard to celebrate the twenty anniversary of trap
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: music without having two pill was around you, like Phiel
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: and Likely.
• 19:02
  Speaker 5: I mean, it's it's it's hard not to celebrate it,
• 19:08
  Speaker 5: you know what I mean, because you know, all the
• 19:10
  Speaker 5: work we put in and everything that that that we
• 19:15
  Speaker 5: that we that we hustle for and fought for. Uh,
• 19:19
  Speaker 5: you know, it's commemorated with with the celebration to trap me.
• 19:25
  Speaker 5: There will be memorialized with the celebration.
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: M hmm. Let's let's go through some of the songs. Man.
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: I just want to know when when I say these songs,
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: I want to know what you think from the album
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: I Can't Quit. What was your mind state when you
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: recorded that? Mmm?
• 19:39
  Speaker 5: I wrote that song? I think I wrote that song.
• 19:43
  Speaker 5: Uh like around the time that I left. Uh did
• 19:49
  Speaker 5: I that I that I left Aristra?
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
• 19:55
  Speaker 5: And you know it was I would really, you know,
• 19:58
  Speaker 5: just just speaking to myself, you know what I mean.
• 20:04
  Speaker 5: Sometimes you know Bravado was just self reassurance.
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: You did, so I was, you know, I was just
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: putting all the proper energy and my my self talk.
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: You did.
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: And I think I think it was delivered as a
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: as a masterful.
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: Message about no more talk, no more talk.
• 20:29
  Speaker 5: Well that I think, man, if I'm not mistaken, there
• 20:34
  Speaker 5: was a lot of I was watching like some conspiras.
• 20:38
  Speaker 5: I was watching some conspiracy documentaries and reading I was
• 20:42
  Speaker 5: also reading Behold the Pale Horse at the time, and
• 20:45
  Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, I was, you know, just
• 20:48
  Speaker 5: just sharing some knowledge that I gathered for myself. And
• 20:52
  Speaker 5: it was a dope ad beat, you know what I mean.
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: What's your favorite song on trap music?
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: Man, it's hard to pick favorites.
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: I said.
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: At the very top of the list though, will have
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: to be just doing my job.
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: Doing my job? What was your mind state when he
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: was doing that one?
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: Man, Man, Kanye, I.
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: Want to break down, cause you got you got a
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: lot of producers on that. Kanye produced that one.
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: Of course, you got a lot of classes on That's
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: why I keep telling y'all start playing with him. When
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: y'all be mentioning these New York artists and the verses
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: against Tip tip On embarrassed.
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: A lot of these people about the verses, I said
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: that didn't fit.
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: I'm just saying, yeah, I mean.
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: I went to the show last night. You go to
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: show the fifty years. It was dope.
• 21:32
  Speaker 5: It was dope, But I think that the maindstate with
• 21:39
  Speaker 5: just doing my job. So he already had the beat
• 21:44
  Speaker 5: with the with the hook.
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: Playing and just doing my job.
• 21:47
  Speaker 5: To me, it immediately took me back to when I
• 21:51
  Speaker 5: was trapping in the apartments, Me and my partners, like
• 21:53
  Speaker 5: we did. None of us live in these apartments. We'll
• 21:55
  Speaker 5: just come here to conduct that business. And a lot
• 21:59
  Speaker 5: of the the tenants of the apartments, you know, a
• 22:03
  Speaker 5: lot don't very cool with us, you know majority, But
• 22:05
  Speaker 5: you had about four or five that'll walk by and
• 22:08
  Speaker 5: they just look at us like with a side I
• 22:09
  Speaker 5: will speak, they wouldn't speak back, you know what I mean,
• 22:15
  Speaker 5: And they had just had uh a disdain for us,
• 22:18
  Speaker 5: and you know, I kind of could understand. But at
• 22:21
  Speaker 5: the same time, I was like, you know, if you
• 22:26
  Speaker 5: just really got to got to know, you know, any
• 22:30
  Speaker 5: of us and had a conversation, you'll probably realize that
• 22:33
  Speaker 5: we ain't no different from your nephews, your brother, your
• 22:36
  Speaker 5: little brothers or sons and so on and so forth.
• 22:40
  Speaker 5: We just find ourselves and in extreme, extremely dire circumstances
• 22:45
  Speaker 5: and you know, are we trying to do well?
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: Find a way out?
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: M And.
• 22:49
  Speaker 5: I just never I never got a chance to have
• 22:51
  Speaker 5: that conversation. And I felt like there were other people
• 22:54
  Speaker 5: in my position that probably felt the same way, and
• 22:56
  Speaker 5: they would probably you know.
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: Uh benefit from the conversation as well.
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: And the beat felt perfect, you know, for for the
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: for for the delivery of dialogue.
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: I wasn't working with with a young Kanye back then.
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: Kanye were cool to hell, man, I ain't even gonna
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: capt uh Kanye was he was.
• 23:15
  Speaker 5: How can I say, like like he was more conversational,
• 23:23
  Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying? Like he he he read
• 23:26
  Speaker 5: the room a lot better. You know, it feels like yay,
• 23:30
  Speaker 5: you know, it felt like ya. You know, he got
• 23:32
  Speaker 5: to a point where he just stopped reading the room
• 23:34
  Speaker 5: and just gave everything everywhere, you know what I mean.
• 23:39
  Speaker 5: But he was he was very excited. That was the
• 23:44
  Speaker 5: first time he played like through the Wire and and
• 23:47
  Speaker 5: and Jesus Walks and all fall down. So he played
• 23:51
  Speaker 5: all those records for us, and he was just so
• 23:54
  Speaker 5: excited playing it like now this one, this one gonna
• 23:57
  Speaker 5: this what we're gonna do with this one?
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: And you know, and I'm listening it. When I heard
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: Jesus walk, I say, man, he's gonna do either do
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: very well extremely bad.
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: Is a religious aspect to it?
• 24:09
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, obviously the former rather than the latter,
• 24:13
  Speaker 5: But yeah, I just felt like, you know, man, religion
• 24:16
  Speaker 5: and corporations don't tend to mix, right, But you know,
• 24:22
  Speaker 5: he he he put it, he put his mix on
• 24:24
  Speaker 5: it and and it went there. Uh that's how. So
• 24:27
  Speaker 5: we took Kanye to body Tap Lord a mercy. We
• 24:32
  Speaker 5: took Kanye to body tap Man.
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: You lost his mind.
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: He ain't never seen.
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: Nothing like it.
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: He ain't never seen nothing like it.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: I was gonna ask with all of the producers with
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: tomb and David Banner.
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, break down, jazzy fade, breakdown working with some of
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: those producers at that time.
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: With DJ tomb Man, that's you know, that's that's that's
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: my doctor.
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, doctor Dred your sloop.
• 24:55
  Speaker 5: That's definitely, that's definitely my mentor. And you know, most
• 24:58
  Speaker 5: of the beasts that I got from Tomb I got
• 25:00
  Speaker 5: from this. They came straight out of health because Tom
• 25:04
  Speaker 5: used to cut my help and so I go get
• 25:07
  Speaker 5: a hair cut and he'll be having beats playing. That's
• 25:10
  Speaker 5: the best way do you stuck in the chair for
• 25:11
  Speaker 5: an hour, You're gonna listen to these beats for the
• 25:13
  Speaker 5: next album.
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: Well, nah, he wasn't really playing the beats for me.
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: You know, he was making beats and you know, like
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: you know how he might. He would be working on
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: the beat. I come to the door, he'll come answer
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: the door, the beat still playing, and while he cutting
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: my hair, you know, the beat just still playing. And
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: you know, I remember that's how I heard twenty fold
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: and and be Easy Too. And you know I was like, hey, man,
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: what's that And he'll say, Man, that ain't finished. I said, yeah,
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: they'll get to me, and I take it and you know,
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: I whip it up the next day and you know,
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: the rest was history.
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: You know what you put your flag down to on
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: that album as the King of the South.
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that was on the first album.
• 25:52
  Speaker 5: Actually, actually, the first time I even mentioned or made
• 25:57
  Speaker 5: mad made mention of the monacle was the song with
• 26:02
  Speaker 5: me and Beanie Siegel two glock nines on the Sheriff Sound. Yeah,
• 26:08
  Speaker 5: and you know, it never really, it never really. It
• 26:13
  Speaker 5: wasn't as personal to me. It didn't mean anything for
• 26:16
  Speaker 5: real until people started saying I couldn't say it.
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: But yeah, you know that's but nobody has said it
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: before exactly. So it's like somebody, nobody ever laid claim
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: to this beautiful region. You know what I mean that
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: we called it South.
• 26:31
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's that's I mean, you know what, that's what
• 26:33
  Speaker 5: That's what brought about. Uh, that's what brought about. The
• 26:36
  Speaker 5: epiphany that that came was when when I was listening
• 26:42
  Speaker 5: to I Believe Mysticals, He's called the Prince.
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: So I looked at KP. I say, if he's the prince,
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: who's the king? And then you know, we just had
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: like that a silence as we both were thinking. Then
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: we both looked at each other, and he said, I bitch,
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: you want, I say the hell I want.
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: With the debating the studio about who actually was at
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: the moment.
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: Mm hmmm. It was a debate back who would actually
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: have a problem.
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: With it being said, Yeah, you know what I mean,
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: But did you know everybody was gonna have a problem
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: with it at one time?
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: Oh you doing? Yeah?
• 27:18
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean you know, I mean that man that
• 27:22
  Speaker 5: intrigued me, you know what I'm saying, because I always
• 27:26
  Speaker 5: felt like, well, first of all, in my heart of hearts,
• 27:34
  Speaker 5: I just didn't want it to be somebody that I
• 27:36
  Speaker 5: really respected, you know what I'm saying.
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: I didn't want I didn't want to offend Yeah, you
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: know Outcast, get Hi mob, ugk Abob, MJG, you know
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: Luke and two Lacker.
• 27:49
  Speaker 5: I didn't want to like offend people who I actually
• 27:52
  Speaker 5: had an affinitive for with anybody in my class, I wanted.
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: I wanted all to smoke, you know. And so I
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: had conversations with you know, my my predecessors.
• 28:05
  Speaker 5: You know, I spoke the Big and Dre from Outcast,
• 28:09
  Speaker 5: I spoke the face, I spoke the Bun, I spoke
• 28:12
  Speaker 5: the ball and G. You know, what I mean, everybody
• 28:14
  Speaker 5: who I had access to I spoke to him, and
• 28:19
  Speaker 5: you know, and all the ogs told me the same thing. Man,
• 28:22
  Speaker 5: do that ship now now, you know, I think Dre
• 28:26
  Speaker 5: said something like, what does it really mean to be king?
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: You know? Face was like, man, I don't want to
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: be king. You can add that ship, bro, And.
• 28:38
  Speaker 5: Big Big Big said, well, you know, now it sounds
• 28:42
  Speaker 5: like some cool shit to say, but to be king
• 28:45
  Speaker 5: put the bulls out on you. You know, the object
• 28:48
  Speaker 5: of the game of chance is to kill the king.
• 28:51
  Speaker 5: Which way I got the title for my last album
• 28:54
  Speaker 5: and he said, you can't be looking for no favors.
• 28:56
  Speaker 5: I said, well, but you ain't got a problem with
• 28:58
  Speaker 5: it though, right ship. I went on did my thing
• 29:02
  Speaker 5: from there. That was all I needed.
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: And also to y'all, you had the song t I
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: versus T I P on that album. You know that's
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: that's that's like a lot of what's the word for?
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: What's the word foreboding? Not foreboding? Come on you the
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: vocabulary guy, I don't know what you came out an
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: album later called T I versus T I P.
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: Shadowing shadowing.
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: That was for boating.
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: I don't know man, word even talk a motive boat.
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: But you knew back then there was a duality.
• 29:37
  Speaker 5: Yeah, Man, Well, to be honest with you, there was
• 29:41
  Speaker 5: a a conflicting nature and the world I was leaving,
• 29:48
  Speaker 5: in the world I was entering, and what I had learned,
• 29:52
  Speaker 5: and how I had learned to carry myself and and
• 29:57
  Speaker 5: and and treat situations, and the world I was exiting,
• 30:03
  Speaker 5: and the way I had to learn to carry myself
• 30:07
  Speaker 5: in the world I was entering. So a lot of
• 30:10
  Speaker 5: times those things contrasted, and a lot of times they
• 30:13
  Speaker 5: were conflicting, and a lot of times I was torn,
• 30:17
  Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. A lot of times you
• 30:19
  Speaker 5: know too, there's some things that I would have to
• 30:23
  Speaker 5: do coming into this world, and I feel like, man, this.
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: Is the exact opposite of.
• 30:30
  Speaker 5: What I learned, you know, and in my teachings. But
• 30:37
  Speaker 5: I I I caught on fast the things I was taught.
• 30:42
  Speaker 5: I had acquired, you know, sets of skills that that
• 30:47
  Speaker 5: that I would no longer be able to use, you
• 30:50
  Speaker 5: know what I mean?
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: Uh?
• 30:52
  Speaker 5: And so that that that cause for a duality or
• 30:56
  Speaker 5: a juxtaposition that I think that it's that narrative. It
• 31:02
  Speaker 5: makes for a great conversation and great dialogue in music.
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: I don't feel like you learned that lesson around trap
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: music though.
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: It took a while for really, but that's the beginning
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: of the less.
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: Got. How was the stand up comedy going?
• 31:20
  Speaker 5: Man, it's going good, Man, it's going good. Uh, you
• 31:23
  Speaker 5: know we're selling that. We just sold that. I think
• 31:26
  Speaker 5: it's Jacksonville comed his own for what is it? Two
• 31:29
  Speaker 5: for six shows? We going to uh helium and in Philly.
• 31:36
  Speaker 5: Gonna be in Philly, uh doing some more comedy. We
• 31:40
  Speaker 5: got offers for tours the comic View, right, Oh yeah,
• 31:44
  Speaker 5: just did comic View in Vegels.
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah. I'm enjoying it. Bro. It's it's a high level
• 31:53
  Speaker 4: of piece. It ain't the same doing it without Clay
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: with it it's you know, it's still it's still dope.
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: Have you have you that with with that, with the
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: with the loss of Clay? What you mean just inn
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: like as far as grieving, like.
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: Well, I mean the question becomes like, you know, when
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: do you really completely finish grieving?
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, especially with somebody like that who's day.
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: To day in the action, Like when do you really
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: like when do you say it's over? When do you
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: say okay, it's complete?
• 32:24
  Speaker 5: I feel like that's an ongoing process.
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: It is like you probably reach for your phone probably
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: certain things pop up, like.
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: Man, somebody call clear and you're like, yeah, I've done
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: that several times, you know, but you you.
• 32:38
  Speaker 5: You you just try to remember as much as you
• 32:41
  Speaker 5: learn from that person, remember as many memories as you
• 32:45
  Speaker 5: can of time shared with that person, and and remember
• 32:51
  Speaker 5: the the things that you all intended to do together.
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: And you got to be very intentional about carrying those things.
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: One of the things.
• 33:01
  Speaker 5: So you know, Clay and that we out man, all
• 33:03
  Speaker 5: of us, but he and I especially we we we
• 33:07
  Speaker 5: we had a pat and it was whoever died first.
• 33:13
  Speaker 5: They would get in front of of of the church
• 33:16
  Speaker 5: over the casket and say the up.
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: And that's and that's what I did.
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying? Uh And and I think,
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: how did that go over? Because I saw, I saw,
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: I saw everybody in the circle knew and laughed. Yeah,
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: like the rest of the church was.
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: Like what that's right?
• 33:36
  Speaker 5: But nah, man, I think you know, but that's how
• 33:38
  Speaker 5: we was, man, you know, our sense of human We
• 33:40
  Speaker 5: kind of laughed our way. I remember like when Field
• 33:44
  Speaker 5: when Field had uh got when they just announced he
• 33:49
  Speaker 5: he had passed, and.
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: You know, me and Clay, you know, we was we
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: was joking, you know, we was like laughing about you know,
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: just how he you know he was he was probably
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: looking at us right now, you know what I'm saying
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: Now Now I think we say, yeah, he's probably in
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: the room right now.
• 34:11
  Speaker 5: You've been that, You've been that cry, been that crash
• 34:13
  Speaker 5: straight up, and we were, you know, we started laughing.
• 34:16
  Speaker 5: And I think, once you have experienced so many tragic moments,
• 34:22
  Speaker 5: you know, you got to find some humor to deliver
• 34:26
  Speaker 5: yourself some form of peace. And that's what we always did, so,
• 34:31
  Speaker 5: you know, and honor, we're gonna continue to do that.
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: I was wondering if the PSC collective, I guess you
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: call it a reunion. I was wondering if y'all coming
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: together to do a new album. I was wondering if
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: that was because of Clay's passing, or were y'all working
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: on that before.
• 34:45
  Speaker 5: Nah, Man, it was really man, to be honest with you, brother,
• 34:48
  Speaker 5: DJ Holliday. Man, Yeah, DJ Holliday came to me and
• 34:54
  Speaker 5: he asked me about doing a PSC show.
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: To commemorate the versary of twenty.
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: Five of life. And you know, I was like, man,
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: I don't think. I don't think nobody want to do it.
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: You know, I see.
• 35:10
  Speaker 5: Then I start, you know, I just kind of put
• 35:12
  Speaker 5: it in the group chat that we got, and you know,
• 35:17
  Speaker 5: just slowly everybody just start saying, well, I don't know,
• 35:20
  Speaker 5: you know, we'll see perhaps. Then it came around like that.
• 35:26
  Speaker 5: You know, drou had really really like did a transformation
• 35:31
  Speaker 5: of hisself and and that made everyone feel good. Everybody
• 35:37
  Speaker 5: was proud of that, and and I think that probably
• 35:41
  Speaker 5: was the the key component and made everybody say, you
• 35:46
  Speaker 5: know what, let's try this again. And you know it's
• 35:51
  Speaker 5: been going well. You know, we got a lot of
• 35:52
  Speaker 5: dope music. Everything is everything coming together.
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: Ya gonna put out an Indus Street, So it's gonna
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: be an album.
• 35:58
  Speaker 5: I think so drummers, he wanted to do it. You
• 36:01
  Speaker 5: wanted to do a gangster grills, So I believe it.
• 36:03
  Speaker 5: I think it would be an in the street that
• 36:05
  Speaker 5: makes sense.
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: And your son's doing music. Do they want to hear
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: Dad's game or do they just want to figure it
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: out on their own?
• 36:12
  Speaker 5: I mean, man, it's different, different decisions for different situations.
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 36:23
  Speaker 4: I think they listened to me, but they may not
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: put it into action immediately.
• 36:30
  Speaker 5: You know, I think they still stubbornly tried they way,
• 36:34
  Speaker 5: just like Daddy. I ain't nobody telling me nothing, you
• 36:38
  Speaker 5: know what I'm saying.
• 36:39
  Speaker 4: That was a little different.
• 36:40
  Speaker 5: I don't think anybody that was around me, especially at
• 36:43
  Speaker 5: their age, could show me how to do what I
• 36:46
  Speaker 5: was trying to do.
• 36:48
  Speaker 4: But I probably wouldn't have listened anyway.
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: I feel like if a song like be better than Me,
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: that was even back then.
• 36:56
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I think that they do the best they can,
• 37:03
  Speaker 5: and I think they get better at it is the
• 37:05
  Speaker 5: years go on. You know, because I listened to the
• 37:07
  Speaker 5: Money some of his songs. Things I told him I
• 37:10
  Speaker 5: thought he wasn't listening at all, and I hear hear
• 37:13
  Speaker 5: the music.
• 37:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, I hear it and hear it in the music,
• 37:16
  Speaker 4: and you know that that that puts me a piece
• 37:18
  Speaker 4: in them, you know. Okay, so he can hear right.
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: You know, we have Boosy up here, and he said
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: that you guys spoke.
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: We were grateful for that. You guys have partners for
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: a long time.
• 37:27
  Speaker 5: Yeah, we spoke, man, we spoke. I mean, man, I
• 37:31
  Speaker 5: don't to be honest with you, brother, I don't take
• 37:33
  Speaker 5: much personal. You know what I mean, I don't really
• 37:36
  Speaker 5: take a whole lot personal, and I think that's the
• 37:39
  Speaker 5: reason why, you know, like a lot of stuff just
• 37:43
  Speaker 5: ain't important to me. You did, like in the moment,
• 37:47
  Speaker 5: if I consume myself with it, you know, I have
• 37:52
  Speaker 5: some momentary.
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: Reaction, But like when I really like, just.
• 37:59
  Speaker 5: How can I say, when I meditate on it and
• 38:02
  Speaker 5: like really really get get off the phone and get
• 38:05
  Speaker 5: into my real life, it dissipates.
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: They don't have any any true value at all, you know.
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: And there there are no.
• 38:14
  Speaker 5: Stakes, you know what I'm saying, There's no consequence, so
• 38:18
  Speaker 5: it shouldn't really be no emotion behind it. However, you know,
• 38:25
  Speaker 5: once we did talk and I shared with him, you
• 38:28
  Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, with the validity of the facts,
• 38:35
  Speaker 5: you know, I think I think he kind of he
• 38:38
  Speaker 5: kind of reached his own conclusion, and you know that
• 38:43
  Speaker 5: was really enough for me.
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: I wasn't tripping enough for it, you know what I mean.
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: I feel like you've disconnected from the social media where
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: you are. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Ben intential.
• 38:55
  Speaker 4: A semi So my phone broke, man, my phone broke and.
• 39:00
  Speaker 5: I was without a phone for about you know, two
• 39:03
  Speaker 5: and a half through, okay, so firm my phone broke and.
• 39:07
  Speaker 4: You know if your phone break like around, it broke
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: like six six thirty. So it wasn't no, it wasn't
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: no phone. So I had to wait. And then the
• 39:19
  Speaker 4: next day I had to go to Canada, so I
• 39:21
  Speaker 4: couldn't get a phone.
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: In and uh, I believe.
• 39:24
  Speaker 5: Then I had a phone, but I had to go
• 39:26
  Speaker 5: to Anguilla, so I got so I had a new phone,
• 39:28
  Speaker 5: but I needed my old phone to get the chip
• 39:30
  Speaker 5: out of it.
• 39:30
  Speaker 4: So I had like two.
• 39:32
  Speaker 5: Weeks without a phone, and you liked it. Yeah, by
• 39:36
  Speaker 5: the time I got back, I had a phone. Then
• 39:39
  Speaker 5: I seen, like you know what I'm saying it when
• 39:42
  Speaker 5: I go to so this is my new phone.
• 39:45
  Speaker 4: When I go to Instagram, don't oh got you?
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: Got you? Got you?
• 39:50
  Speaker 4: So I got to go through the trouble of fixing
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: it and getting in in and now I don't. I
• 39:55
  Speaker 4: ain't gonna do that. So I'm just you know, I'm
• 39:58
  Speaker 4: just living.
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: With what's around me at the I love me some
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: damn man, Guilla man. Yeah.
• 40:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah, oh they told me, yes, stayed right there where
• 40:04
  Speaker 4: you stayed.
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: You know what? That was crazy? Yeah? When when was this?
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: This was julyast fourteenth through the twenty.
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: Oh this year.
• 40:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I just left.
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: I know, I told you that I left on the tenth.
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: You just said it three times.
• 40:19
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: It's crazy though. Also this year I was in Saint
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: Lucia and then one of the car services, me and
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: my wife got in this sad grand hustle on the
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: back and I said, man, Tip would love this, he said,
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: I just dropped dropped them off, like what the day
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: before we island happened.
• 40:36
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but but Despatch, you stayed at Man, it was
• 40:40
  Speaker 5: it was, it was already gone.
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: I had to get the one behind you.
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: Man, let's bite, let's do it. I'm dead serious. You
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: know it's for sale.
• 40:49
  Speaker 4: No I didn't. They didn't share that with me.
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: I wanted I just need somebody to do it. You
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: want to talk about the one that you was in,
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: the one either one day the same thing as this
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: one up we talked about quite because the one got
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: a master bedroom.
• 41:02
  Speaker 4: Now, but I mean all of them have a massive
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: but I'm talking about yours. The what you was in.
• 41:06
  Speaker 4: It's more the architecture is much different.
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: They a little bit.
• 41:09
  Speaker 4: It's a little traditional, a little more, a little more family.
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: Staff, yeah, but the second floor got got a whole
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: master bedroom, the one, the one in the other one,
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: all the rooms individuals. This one got a big you know,
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: they knocked out a wall.
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: And then combined to room and listen to this and
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: buy in front of you.
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: I don't know what we're talking about.
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: They do talk about it, like what's the house.
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: That I don't know what we're talking about. They don't
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: know what we're talking about.
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: Twenty year man, twenty years of trap music.
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: Man, we appreciate you so much, brother, No, no, I
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: really we really got to start preserving history, man. And
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: the fifty years of hip hop made me think about that.
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: But you know, just also what I saw them do
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: with whole, with the book a whole, and I just
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: feel like there's so many false narratives online and people
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: trying to rewrite history. It's like, yeah, we really got
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: to let people know who started, you know, who's the
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: foundation of a lot of this stuff that we love
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: called in this culture called hip hop. Yeah, that's true.
• 42:02
  Speaker 5: And how long y'all been doing? How long has Breakfast
• 42:05
  Speaker 5: Club been been in existence?
• 42:07
  Speaker 4: Thirteen years years, thirteen years this year? So what's your
• 42:10
  Speaker 4: what's your anniversary? Date December December one on fourteen December,
• 42:15
  Speaker 4: who December twenty third, right round Christmas time?
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: Around Christmas time?
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: Okay, you know something what y'all do to celebrate nothing? Nothing.
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: We've been thinking about some stuff that we want to do,
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: something called the young Old g Ball. Okay, with that consistence,
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: it's a bunch of people our age will get together,
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: have some good grown folks, funky like a big party
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: with people dress up like like really put it on.
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: Man.
• 42:43
  Speaker 4: I know that this may be a little overplayed.
• 42:47
  Speaker 5: Uh, it may sound somewhat cliche, but to commemorate the
• 42:52
  Speaker 5: breakfast club thinking a dope ass brunch, I'm with it.
• 42:57
  Speaker 4: The dope ass brunch, the break the break club or
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: you know what that week now Hannah she she now
• 43:05
  Speaker 4: Hannah had This was before you guys.
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: Hannah had a party that she did for me.
• 43:12
  Speaker 5: Every year for my birthday. And it was basically, uh,
• 43:17
  Speaker 5: we'll go out, you know and do like the invitation
• 43:20
  Speaker 5: only thing. Then we'll go to you know, Magic City
• 43:24
  Speaker 5: or something like that. After that, she'll like get a
• 43:28
  Speaker 5: presidential suite and put branch tables in it, and from
• 43:33
  Speaker 5: like three thirty in the morning to noon we'll have
• 43:37
  Speaker 5: a branch and it'll be called the Breakfast Club.
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean, Hannah, let's do it.
• 43:42
  Speaker 5: Maybe, you know, y'all contact Hannah and see if she can,
• 43:45
  Speaker 5: you know, reinstall the breakfast.
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: You know what I wanted to do too for my car.
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: So what I do is I recreate the room. Okay,
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: this room, this room with the chairs in the background.
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: People love taking pictures, so I wanted to do something
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: like that with people can actually come and do their
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: own breakfast club thing, you know, whether they taping.
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: Or something like that.
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: I mean, we ain't part of Trapp, but we would
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: love to do like a little baby, like a little
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: section in the Trap Music We didn't have Mad Trap all.
• 44:10
  Speaker 4: This all that I would love. I would love that, y'all.
• 44:12
  Speaker 4: You know we are we got uh they do big bank,
• 44:19
  Speaker 4: big facts. They do big facts, uh at the at
• 44:22
  Speaker 4: the Trap Music Museum. But I think that we can
• 44:25
  Speaker 4: find as a matter of fact, that y'all just gave
• 44:27
  Speaker 4: me another great idea. You on real estate. When one
• 44:30
  Speaker 4: of those buildings you got, man, just do a partcare room,
• 44:34
  Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. Dress them up.
• 44:36
  Speaker 5: However, y'all want to dress them up? Let folks pay
• 44:39
  Speaker 5: y'all hour the Raised Daily Raised.
• 44:41
  Speaker 4: To come in there. Maybe you can have some classes.
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, My guys, Big Facts man
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: to be on the Black.
• 44:47
  Speaker 4: Effect and y'all got eighty five South too, eighty five
• 44:52
  Speaker 4: South and Big Fact and you know we are so
• 44:56
  Speaker 4: we are all death Digital. You know what I'm saying.
• 44:58
  Speaker 4: We kind of optimized the cpns that people get for
• 45:03
  Speaker 4: their streams on YouTube. So you know, we work hand
• 45:06
  Speaker 4: in hand cohesively on a lot of things together.
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, ladies and gentlemen's t I.
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: It's the breakfast club one thing. Are you gonna do
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: some type of show for trap music? Uh?
• 45:20
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think King King is King is Uh, he's
• 45:24
  Speaker 5: he's he's doing he's doing something man, and so far
• 45:29
  Speaker 5: he got he got boosting TUD and he's asking me
• 45:34
  Speaker 5: to come.
• 45:35
  Speaker 4: I'm thinking about it.
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: Makes sense to think about it.
• 45:41
  Speaker 4: Telling me how to make sure you got some insurance man,
• 45:43
  Speaker 4: you know.
• 45:46
  Speaker 5: But yeah, he said he wanted to, Uh he say
• 45:49
  Speaker 5: he wanted to to kind of take over the the
• 45:54
  Speaker 5: celebration for for the anniversary.
• 45:58
  Speaker 4: And you know what I'm saying, all right, so I'm
• 46:00
  Speaker 4: gonna see what he put together.
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: I feel like you've got to perform at in its
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: entirety somewhere.
• 46:05
  Speaker 4: Man. We're gonna see man, But the How Mafia will
• 46:08
  Speaker 4: be in Philly. Man at the Helium.
• 46:10
  Speaker 5: Gets your tickets right now online wherever Helium's website is uh.
• 46:14
  Speaker 5: And you know, catch the Hai Mafia wherever you can
• 46:18
  Speaker 5: because it will be going down.
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: That's right, you did.
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: It's the Breakfast Club.
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: It's ta