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91 | The First Elimination Chamber - Survivor Series 2002 · The ExtraCooler Show

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Welcome to Washington. This is Lord trakula and welcome
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to the extra cooler show. No teeth.
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Cooler show. Welcome back to a brand new
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This week, I am joined by Matt and Jim.
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Mike is stuck somewhere in the elimination chamber over in the
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show. All right, so before we get
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things under way, we're going to be.
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We're going to be talking about Survivor Series 2002.
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The first Elimination Chamber match.
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I have a little bit of housekeeping to do because
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sometimes I feel like I'm so excited to talk about the
1:30
homework on these episodes that I never take a moment to talk
1:33
about what I'm working on. Because I just don't think it's
1:38
that cool. Or maybe I don't have
1:40
experiences like I had this past week.
1:44
So I recently told every lot of people that an old post I made
1:50
from months ago of f.d.r. popped up and I had a comment from none
1:56
other than Dax hardwood, who I don't even know how he stumbled
2:00
on it, but he literally commented on the post.
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Can I please have and immediately, I I was like, yes.
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In what capacity would you like it?
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I messaged him and it was pretty wild because right after he
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liked it he shared maybe shared it or you didn't share it right
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away and then cash wheeler shared it and then aw bear like
2:27
Instagram account like the post as well.
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So he must have sent it to someone that way.
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So then I like message him hoping he'd reach out and he
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reached out. Like within a few hours and I
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was just like, what would you like to do with it?
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You want it for a shirt? And he was like, actually I want
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it for a print for my bar. So I was like, oh, that is
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incredible. Even cooler.
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Yeah, I know, I was like, this is awesome.
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I'd rather have it in your bar and then on some pro wrestling
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T's like, you know, t-shirt I was going to say is it only an
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amount of time before you see a knockoff on pro athletes.
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And so let's join like it or Anyway, guys, operate, probably
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you put you put inportant artwork in your bar if you have
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a space for that like that. Yes, decision, right.
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Agreed. Only, there's only so much rice
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and it's like getting it while you're drinking, it makes you
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happy. And the wild part is is like for
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those people. I'm sure a lot of people know
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that he has a podcast out now or he's talking about a lot of his
3:28
matches especially the recent ones and he has a YouTube
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channel as well. So I'm hoping it pops up in the
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background somewhere over there. They're be cool.
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Ultimately, the coolest part for me is that anybody that listens
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to this podcast and axes podcast knows that the two of us both
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like tequila. So I took a more like, maybe an
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understatement. Yeah, he loves to kill.
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I love to kill but I don't have the money to buy as much tequila
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as he does but it was cool. The coolest moment the Highlight
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was definitely being able to talk about the two of our
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favorite Tequilas and I gave him a recommendation, he gave me a
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recommendation. Nation of four bottles.
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So that was definitely the highlight and probably the
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coolest moment I've had in a while they loved the idea of
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him. Like I don't know.
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He's like in bed at night going through this Instagram, right.
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Like, but what are they sir? He's searching the hashtag, if
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the are right? Like yeah, yeah.
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Stumbles upon like, you got to ask them like, how did you stop?
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I know cause, especially since it's not it wasn't brand-new
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right? Like a yo-yo.
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You made it or something. That was the wildest part is
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that he stumbled on it like that much later.
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It's not like I posted in the last month.
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It was, let's go spring, he's looking through a See of stuff.
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And that is got his attention. Yeah, it's wild.
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Like if you ever list look at like a wrestler or celebrity or
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athlete and you go to their tagged.
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It's like it's nauseating. The amount of stuff that they
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are tagged in. So, again, like you said, it's
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pretty cool. So I had to share that, but I
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feel like on the back, like, thank you, you deserve it.
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I find. I feel like that's a good segue
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to go right into our, what's in the cooler.
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Brewery Sloop. So that being said, I had to
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bring some tequila with me. I got some of this for
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Christmas. It's one of the more popular
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Tequila's, but I'm not really crazy about it.
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And it's the qasimi goes by, you know, George Clooney's, tequila.
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It's a little too vanilla for my liking still.
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Good. But does that mean plane or does
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that mean like actual vanilla taste like?
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Yeah, I apologize. Vanilla tasting.
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Yeah, I'm not as good as the Hop.
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God the uneducated. Yes.
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See under the uneducated as took Keela guy over here.
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Maybe I'll learn a thing or two next week.
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Yes there. It's just a little too sweet for
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my liking and what I've liked acquired a taste for.
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So yeah. Anyway would you guys bring?
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I've got another half as almost always per usual.
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This one's it's from our local one over here in the Finger
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Lakes. It's cheddar cheddar.
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Yeah, chatter it's like one of their like that's like what kind
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of their classic you know. Broccoli cheddar.
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This is a double dry hopped Imperial.
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India Pale Ale. Of course. 7.9% made mostly with
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Citra hops. It's really good.
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It's nice. Its other half.
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Yeah, can do no wrong. So I feel like I haven't made a
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real appearance. On what's in the cooler in a
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while. So why do I feel like, I'm I
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feel like I'm back. I feel, I mean, you don't have
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happy when we. Yeah, I don't have any teeth.
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There's no, there's no Scotch this time around like last
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episode with Chad and so, I guess it's me.
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It's me. It's the hopg OD.
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Ha ha. I've got Nugget nectar.
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Oh, that time of year again? Yes, Jim.
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I sent the photo from the BD to your wife, like I do every year.
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I beat her. Again, this year, I feel like
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it's two years in a row. It is a For years, she is she's
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gotten me, but your wife and I chase this around to see who can
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get it first. But essentially, this is a one
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time a year from Troggs burrowing out in Pennsylvania.
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They do a it's pretty much an Amber ale and it is nugget
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nectar. Excuse me.
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Nugget nectar is the name but it's nugget hops.
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Warrior, Tomahawk Simcoe Palisade.
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It is incredibly smooth, super hot forward and one of my
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favorite beers that Look forward to most throughout the year.
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So, cheers, fellas. I'm glad you're back.
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Cheers, such a good time of the year for the Amber ale feel like
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yes this, yeah, yes, perfect. Time of year?
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Yes, still a little crisp. So, as we mentioned, we're
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talking about Survivor Series 2002, the first elimination
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chamber, taking place from New York City.
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Madison Square Garden. Matt, you were in the house for
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this. We had not met at we were what
8:04
like two years away from Meeting.
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Yeah, become friends. So I'm sure you want that was
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on. You little little tidbits of
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information that you're going to sprinkle in throughout this it's
8:17
really strange like I rewatch this card and I only remembered
8:21
like a third of it. Like I seriously like I don't
8:24
know if it was I don't know what it was.
8:28
I don't know if it was the event itself.
8:30
If it was the time time in life of like 2002, the middle of
8:36
college, it was with old work friends.
8:39
My buddy Mike, who actually we've met at the pop-up shop at
8:43
Ted's Ted wrestling for sales pop up when we did it in
8:46
Brooklyn and then my other buddy Clifton who I'm chatting with
8:50
right now because I couldn't remember if it was just the
8:52
three of us or if there were other people that were with us,
8:56
Are all old co-workers like it's that blurry in my brain.
9:01
I specifically remember from the undercard and sorry to Jump
9:05
Ahead slightly but no, no, I remember the spot of Jeff Hardy
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jumping off of the entrance way with a Madison Square Garden.
9:13
He did that very similarly at the 2000 Royal Rumble which was
9:17
the last event well as pay-per-view that I went before
9:20
that but yeah, there's a lot of blurry like Anders in my head,
9:27
but I'll certainly fill in some blanks along the way, but it was
9:30
a cool experience to go back and watch something and be like, oh
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shit, I was there for nickel. Think that's.
9:36
I feel like we kind of feel the same way about that. 2001 came
9:40
to the ring, right. Yes.
9:42
We've covered on the show there. Maybe it's just because it's so
9:45
long ago, we feel that way. Yeah, it's over two decades and
9:48
again, like you said this such like that's got an iconic match
9:52
on it to with the the Kurt Angle.
9:54
Yeah, Shane McMahon and but I don't really remember.
9:56
Amber being there. Not much of it, I hear you you
10:00
know wild. So this this card, you know,
10:03
we're going to really focus on the Chamber match and the first
10:06
Chamber match mainly because this weekend is elimination
10:09
chamber but Brock Brock taker is the other the co-main event,
10:15
right? For the title, Big Poppa Pump
10:18
makes his debut taking out Chris Nowinski and Matt Hardy like
10:24
what? Yeah, that happens.
10:26
Right before the Chamber match this segment?
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I do remember. Yeah.
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And I'd like the the siren going off.
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Yeah. In Madison Square Garden.
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The music is so good. The the doors that just open up
10:40
on itself. So we talked about it in the the
10:42
2008, Royal Rumble episode that we did recently about the short
10:45
ramp and the entrance way at Madison Square Garden and I know
10:50
what we were. I think we were like, further up
10:52
high across the across the way from the entrance.
10:55
So, we got to see, Whole thing and like I remember it being an
11:00
impactful moment from for me and seeing Big Poppa Pump him coming
11:04
out and spewing his idiocy across my God.
11:08
Yeah I don't know if it's worth playing but I've got it, he go
11:11
for it. You gotta do my freaks in New
11:16
York City. What a character?
11:31
Good. Well, I love the hand of mesh
11:34
yell like the shark prevention of the male.
11:37
Yeah, look male like mail. Oh you're usually the word guy?
11:41
I was like, oh thanks Jim cooks for stumble in a little bit.
11:44
I got you. This was known that he was going
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to be debuting here rice to be. His sons were were all over the
11:52
place. One says, Big Poppa boner.
11:54
Yeah. Oh man, Attitude Era at its
12:00
finest. Although this is kind of the end
12:01
of end of yeah, right. Yeah, yeah, perfect.
12:04
This will, this will be some housecleaning for well, let's
12:07
say two weeks or three weeks from now.
12:08
But of all the WCW, kind of, like, not the guys that came
12:14
over right away. But the big like NWO say and
12:18
Goldberg Scott Steiner Yale, like most of them were kind of
12:23
dull thuds, right? Including this.
12:24
Like they didn't. Oh yeah.
12:26
Do much like so I would my question for a future episode of
12:30
discusses who is like the best of the guys that that were added
12:34
after the contracts like played out right?
12:36
Like that, that whole deal life you guys came in at first like
12:39
Booker and it's Ashley Hogan and all those guys like interesting,
12:43
it took time so and like this I don't know how long did this guy
12:46
being last? I I think he was involved in
12:49
some of the main event stuff for ya while there.
12:51
I don't know. This was like definitely an
12:53
arrow where they started to lose me like just in the car.
12:56
Did you know? I think it was like the
12:58
wrestling wasn't very good either.
12:59
There's like such a stiff by this point, right?
13:02
Like so sad and well, it's it breaks my heart because he was
13:05
so good in. Yeah.
13:07
The earlier stuff that we have covered a few.
13:09
Yeah, bunch of his stuff and I know like the did these debuts
13:12
were huge, when they happened all them and then the yeah,
13:16
yeah, I feel like it's like, give you a short answer.
13:20
Now, I'm certainly happy to go back because like, you get
13:23
blurriness about Hogan and all the guys that left left went to
13:27
WCW and came back. It makes it feel like it's like
13:31
they almost are disqualified, right?
13:33
Because the rabbit history beforehand that feels like they
13:35
just pick right up. But Booker T is the one that
13:38
comes to mind of like being there from the onset, as soon as
13:42
they went over. He was there in The
13:44
quote-unquote Invasion, and then the dude is still on our
13:47
screens. Now.
13:48
They're like that's one that sticks out in my brain.
13:51
But I certainly want to put more thought into it.
13:54
I think that's probably the answer to I Yeah or flyer but
13:58
Flair's got all the history obviously and flare 92 versus
14:03
right you know. Yeah.
14:03
Players another good one as well.
14:04
It feels like a pickup of where you want a drink.
14:07
Yeah. I mean you may be wild for him
14:09
to come on. There's also a Marcus Bagwell to
14:11
probably are ya. All right, let's get things
14:14
underway on that note. So I thought it was pretty cool
14:18
because I don't remember watching this live.
14:21
I don't remember really go like I've watched bits and pieces of
14:25
it but not as As close as I did. I thought it was cool that Jr.
14:29
Starts things off, by letting us know that the Chaz, the chamber
14:31
lowers, the unpredictability of War Games, the tradition of
14:36
Survivor series, and the importance of the world title.
14:39
And then Jr, I'm sorry. King chimes in all about
14:43
survival, because I was kind of wondering like, what's where's
14:45
the Survivor series part of come into play, but I thought that
14:48
was a cool way to kind of tie in what they were trying to do
14:51
here. Not just like create this
14:53
massive clunky structure. You know it shows it shows a
14:59
little bit that you didn't remember watching it live and
15:02
you you're a little questionable now because you said the co-main
15:05
event was Brock against Undertaker.
15:07
It's Brock and Big Show and Big Show is sorry.
15:10
Yes you're right and I'm sorry it's show beats Brock and with
15:13
the help of Paul Heyman turning eyebrows are.
15:16
So to correct you, I did, I did watch that match because I
15:22
wanted to see the end and I did my homework weeks ago so I
15:25
apologize. Yeah, I know, I think it's more
15:27
like Nick is a the HBK guy here and he was just shocked and
15:31
awed, by the brown pants. Well, we're gonna get II.
15:34
Let's say that, lets say exactly.
15:35
I've got a lot to say about, I figured it.
15:37
Mr. My eyes. So backstage.
15:41
Speaking of we get the broadcast colleague Terry.
15:45
I completely forgot that this was a role she played.
15:48
She's like got like a handkerchief bedazzled covering
15:52
her bosoms and she's she goes down, she's tracking Shonda.
15:56
He's printing with his Dutch boy haircut.
15:59
And he he's interrupted by RN with Randy Orton.
16:03
Giving us an update on his rehab.
16:05
I thought was an interesting way to keep him involved very young.
16:10
Oh my God, it's like, staggering to see.
16:12
Oh yeah, long hair and the lack of tattoos, and the poor tattoos
16:18
that he has hit you underneath his sleeves.
16:20
Now I do have to ask has extra cooler ever been motivated to
16:25
grow out Out that school, boy, haircut, Sean has 2002.
16:30
I'm gonna get there. So you need invested a lot of
16:35
conditioner to yet, very bouncy. And yeah, forgot it kelsie's
16:40
hair so fast. Like I look pretty thick.
16:44
No at the ending when he's sweaty.
16:46
Looks a little thin, it does. Yeah.
16:49
So hymns was not invented yet. No.
16:52
We we never hear from Shawn Casas that sponsored by him.
16:56
Sorry. Guys.
16:58
We never hear maybe Sean. So this match includes RVD,
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Shawn Michaels, Chris Jericho, Kane Booker T and the World
17:05
Heavyweight Champion Triple H. The structure was created by
17:10
Eric, Bischoff, storyline wise. And I love it.
17:15
How it the video package plays, and there's not a single
17:18
narration over it. Right?
17:22
It's just music like that just you know, but Rock and you're
17:26
saying, we're so spoiled at this point by, you know, WWE
17:30
production right. What less than a year ago?
17:35
They have like, an all-time wanted a WrestleMania, X 7, or
17:38
17 over the hills called with the my way or the highway, which
17:41
might not have much commentary either.
17:43
But yet still, this was just weak.
17:46
Yeah, this one, we've got a saliva, you know?
17:48
And it breaks down, basically, it's breaking down the You the
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2002 Feud and return of Triple H and HBK.
17:56
And there's SummerSlam matched with the other guys kind of like
17:59
sprinkled throughout it before the match starts.
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We've got Triple H backstage with coach and Ric Flair and I
18:08
forgot again that in September previously, Triple H was named
18:12
the world heavyweight champion at the time and just given the
18:16
belt, right? Yeah.
18:17
Well how did that work on pack that 92 the champion?
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I don't I cannot Clean to remember that.
18:23
I definitely was not watching Rod that, yeah, that's, that's
18:27
split off because he won the Undisputed Championship earlier
18:31
in the year, right? Didn't he?
18:32
The two titles from Jericho? Yeah, but that was previous
18:36
right at Mania and then write fast forward to Brock and
18:39
Rockets. Okay, slam.
18:40
Yeah, yeah, right. And I guess, maybe they were
18:43
really trying to focus on the two brands.
18:45
At this point. Someone's definitely gonna.
18:47
That's what it Phyllis in more about this.
18:49
Yeah, so, So I look at how then you get bootcut Bischoff, sorry
18:54
to rip off your nickname at Brock Lesnar but Bischoff comes
18:59
out and Crystal Ball. But this man is this man, only
19:03
own black t-shirts and black jean jackets because I feel like
19:06
during this era, that's all you ever see him wearing, what the
19:09
black shoe polish in his hair to my that's guy.
19:12
He comes out and like, right. He doesn't have anything in his
19:16
hands and then like once he steps in the ring he just slides
19:20
like the big boss man's night. Stick out from underneath his
19:22
sleeve. Police say it's beating the shit
19:25
out of the, The Elimination Chamber from the inside,
19:28
explaining the rules. And I'm not gonna lie at first,
19:31
I was like, what is this? I don't need Bischoff to explain
19:34
the rules, but it's a totally different twists than like the
19:39
the the over done introduction of like War Games.
19:45
You know, like we spoke about this test so it with Chad and
19:48
the way Bischoff comes out and explains it as much as I.
19:51
Was annoyed by him. He was clear.
19:54
He was concise, he was to the point and, you know, yeah, it
19:57
was annoying. It was cheesy like him kind of
19:59
shaking the chains and smack, ooh, Mi a chain standing in
20:03
silence till he's grinning. He's got that bitch off smiled.
20:06
All right. It felt so unnecessary.
20:09
It's like I get it, but the, my favorite part was that he's
20:13
like, hiding a pipe up his sleeve.
20:16
Oh yeah. The pipe.
20:16
Yeah, it's a nice tick. Comes out a nightstick.
20:20
I'm pretty sure it was a nice day.
20:22
I think it was a metal with Matt.
20:23
I think the metal pipe really is the whole reason why he had it
20:26
and he like, I was I rewound it like I normally do and try to
20:30
find all that stupid details and he's got it up, his jean jacket
20:34
sleeve, but he's like holding it with two fingers and he's while
20:37
he's walking around and then as he approaches the, the steel of
20:41
the cage brother, he slides it out and he starts whacking the
20:45
metal pipe against the metal like great on the floor on the
20:50
cage itself and Making it stick in the microphone up to it,
20:53
clunk clunk clunk, like, trying to establish how brutal this
20:57
structure was. And from everything we hear from
21:00
wrestlers, taking interviews. Apparently, it really was from
21:03
working. You say, granted haven't seen so
21:06
many Elimination Chamber matches.
21:08
So like the structure even going back and watching.
21:10
Okay, there it is. But at the time, this is a big
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deal. Kyle.
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I can't understand a place like, like Madison Square Garden where
21:18
the variety Arena itself is smaller than normal, even Back
21:22
in 2002. There's not much room around the
21:26
ring itself. And then you put this massive
21:28
structure in there, too. It was like, it looks over a
21:32
entire space. Weren't there only so many
21:34
Arenas in the United States that could handle the structure.
21:38
Marina Nettles and point. Yeah, they could only do it in
21:40
so many. So many places.
21:42
Now they like send that thing overseas or have it built like I
21:45
feel like they had an elimination chamber.
21:47
Something overseas. Yeah.
21:52
The crazy part was next, we get think and I'm like, damn we just
21:55
had to listen to Bischoff and we couldn't have our Finkel explain
21:57
the rules. This this isn't rocket science,
22:00
guys, so Jericho's out first, his music being played from the
22:07
world, which I don't remember WWF, New York being changed to
22:12
world or what's been the WWE transition right hand to about?
22:16
Yeah, more saliva. A number there being a
22:19
rebranding and it's like, not even UWE the world.
22:23
It's just the world world Time Square, right?
22:25
It's so bizarre, like, just the naming convention in and of
22:29
itself. Did we go to the world?
22:31
We only wanted WF New York right hand.
22:33
Definitely only WWF New York. Yeah, I just love it.
22:37
Have we have more saliva and Jericho is the tag team champion
22:40
but they never ever say who he's Champion with that, you pick up
22:45
on that like I still I purposefully never looked it up
22:49
because I wanted to see if anybody else Could tell me, who
22:52
Jericho's did like tag team partner at this point?
22:55
Was it won't friend Mike, your current.
22:57
Yeah, I know. Yeah, it is.
22:59
It made no sense to me. Also how the music was being
23:03
sung? This is his updated music wide,
23:06
it's awful. I don't know.
23:08
Yeah, because I feel like this was the the phase of WWE sa just
23:13
made everything but rock. Yeah.
23:15
Everything had a butt Rock theme like eating cane when he comes
23:19
out. It's like pain.
23:22
Cock rock. It's crazy finger everything
23:25
because his, if it's not Finger, Eleven or saliva or it's
23:30
Drowning Pool. Yeah.
23:31
Goddamn. All the dirt, all the same who's
23:33
making the call there Booker T's out next.
23:37
Followed by Cain, can't they tell us that cane?
23:40
They've never had a world champion with a mask.
23:43
This point, which is pretty interesting about all those
23:46
like, WCW, guys. There was never one.
23:49
Thank you so much sense. That's not cereal.
23:52
Had it after this. Yeah.
23:54
Yeah, interest is so out. Next, we've got true.
23:59
Sorry, Jean, Michaels. And my question for you.
24:04
First of all, he's got a massive pop, right?
24:06
This is his second, this is first sanction man-yak because
24:10
SummerSlam doesn't count see what you did there.
24:13
And he my question for you is has any other wrestler had a
24:18
more iconically bad look. Then Shawn Michaels, Dutch, boy,
24:23
haircut and poo pants combo like to W.
24:27
Do the haircut combined with the pants is just awful?
24:32
Do you think who's one without the like you know if he had the
24:35
hair with a kind of an old-school look or you know I
24:39
know like a lot of people have a hard time and myself included.
24:42
First of all, I think a lot of people would complain about
24:45
Shawn Michaels with the chaps but this version of Shawn
24:49
Michaels with the like regular pants in the cowboy boots.
24:51
Is a hundred times worse. Like I don't want this on my
24:55
television, and you're talking. You're talking about someone who
24:58
used to, like I loved Shawn Michaels.
25:01
I'm pretty sure I've made that clear, like, in high school.
25:04
I like this guy was like, the, the peak for me, tell my
25:09
audience about the necklace. I wore a necklace like Shawn
25:14
Michaels. Circa WrestleMania 14.
25:18
It was cool. I guys anyway.
25:20
So I he got hurt, he left. And I can remember like going to
25:25
college in 2000 and like reading the dirt sheets obsessively
25:29
finding out if he's going to come back and never wrestle
25:31
again. And then just like, you know,
25:34
our our fandom and life got in the way and wrestling kind of
25:38
fizzled out. And then he came back and I was
25:41
like, not really watching. I wasn't even excited for this
25:43
to be honest and I just couldn't get behind the look.
25:48
And then you see the haircut at this event.
25:50
I mean, he It's like my sister in 1994.
25:54
Migrating. I'm pretty sure she had the same
25:56
haircut, huh? And then the then the pants, the
26:00
pants, you know, the story behind the pants right there,
26:04
unfinished. Or something.
26:05
There. Unfinished.
26:06
And I sat there during this match and I tried to like look
26:10
at the pants and figure it out. And there's something that's so
26:12
incredibly glaring about it, right?
26:14
He's got the heart on his crotch and he's got the heart on his
26:17
butt and inside the heart, there's like an S that's
26:20
intertwined with an But then on his hips he's got an H on both
26:25
sides. That's it.
26:26
So it's not like he was going to have HBK like with the Beyond
26:30
his ass. So my assumption is he was going
26:32
to have HBK going down vertically on his leg, the legs
26:37
blank. All right?
26:38
Yeah, so they're completely from the lionheart, are ya?
26:42
Um, it basically the gear wasn't ready and he had them
26:45
commissioned and production was slow and he decided to wear the
26:49
unfinished. Kind there's a Quote, somewhere
26:53
in his biography, I found this, I can't ya because of his
26:57
Newfound Christianity, he wanted Earth, colored tights, to
27:01
represent himself as a creation of God, unfortunately, left it
27:04
too late. When requesting the tights and
27:06
the WWE seamstress didn't have enough time to finish.
27:09
It gets hotter. He arrived at the arena with
27:12
nothing else to wear and had no choice but to go out and
27:15
unfinished Brown tights, he tells he goes on to tell a few
27:18
stories and apparently I want the point.
27:21
Stephanie is backstage with him and Triple H, and looks at him
27:25
and tells him to his face. He looks like a big giant turd
27:28
and brand Triple H at this point was in hysterics asking, are you
27:32
really gonna go out and those which is just like to me it's
27:37
just it's sums up like the fact that they're just hanging out
27:40
backstage and and then that happens.
27:44
And uh yeah it's on the eighth day.
27:46
I forgot to finish Shawn Michaels pounds.
27:51
And you ask me, it's disappointing.
27:53
Because coming off the stretch where he left.
27:56
Yes, it's like someone, oh my God, Hannah crumb.
27:58
Yes, all those exons, the breast Mini-14 gears.
28:03
You can argue abundances best gear.
28:05
But he was always famous for having among the best, right?
28:08
Yes. I chalk line cells like multiple
28:10
versions of his pants. Yep.
28:12
And then this, this is the one thing.
28:14
I'll say. It's probably the most unique
28:15
thing he's ever wore. Yeah, I could.
28:18
Yeah. Yeah.
28:18
Without a doubt. Shit brown pants.
28:21
It shit brown cowboy boots hidden, Cooley to yeah, and then
28:25
the air to top it off. It's just amazing.
28:28
He's out for a long time, right? Here's the unsanctioned match at
28:31
WrestleMania. You would think they would have
28:33
finished the pants? At least I had a lot of time,
28:38
and who's not gonna be here spoiler?
28:40
This is the guy that you're going to put the title on.
28:42
Yes? Right.
28:43
And you can't say, like to seamstress, like, move it lady
28:46
like, yeah. Just working on being important.
28:50
Yes, up working every undercard, Here is there any other instance
28:53
you can remember of wrestler? No, not wearing completed gear.
28:59
You know, I mean like now that is all not this notable or this.
29:02
I go like I said this has got to be the most iconic.
29:05
Lee bad look for a wrestler. Well, hey kit, especially for
29:08
such a like well-regarded Shawn Michaels.
29:11
Yeah, out next, we've got RVD and he's going to start the
29:16
match because all four other guys go into their pods and he's
29:20
stuck with the Champ, Triple H, and I think it's interesting
29:24
that they don't ever refer to the pods as pods during this
29:26
match. The like, I wonder at what point
29:29
did they start that? I texted you guys, is, is Triple
29:33
H the heel, because he doesn't get booed, like, he'll in this
29:37
match in my opinion. No, especially the rise
29:40
entrance. Keep in mind, 2002 had the
29:43
Triple H return at Madison Square Garden, which was the
29:46
time previous that I went to a wrestling of, right?
29:50
So I went twice in 02. And one was the Triple H return.
29:53
He's still wearing the same logo on the Trunks and then now fast
29:58
forward from January to November and he's back in Madison Square
30:01
Garden again. Yeah, sure.
30:02
He's got the feud with Sean and you start having him be the guy
30:06
that turned his back in the heel and all that other shit but
30:09
you're right. He's supposed to be the heel
30:12
here and as G loves it. Yeah it's yeah, I don't know
30:17
what to say. I think that yet if the crowd is
30:19
contrarian, you know, like how we To be but he's you know he's
30:23
got that clean. Shaven look to like he stepped
30:25
weird post to be a smug. Yes, right.
30:29
And it's really a shame is look guys, like cliche that are
30:33
loaded. No sorry.
30:35
Yes. And with the big gold belt to I
30:37
think. Yes.
30:38
It's like the beginning of that era where he was like Champion
30:41
for extended periods of time. Obviously he's it here but yeah,
30:45
Owen 6 at Survivor Series King King and Jr.
30:48
Remind us because I think It's I think the start was wild, like I
30:55
was so surprised by the first 5 minutes, how Harvey D just
30:58
destroyed, Triple H? Like I feel like Triple H could
31:01
not get any offense in, which is pretty cool because He bust him
31:06
open to right? Yeah.
31:09
Yeah, he's thrown him into the cage there.
31:10
Like establishing that this that this structure is is dangerous.
31:16
And they're thrown around him landing on the great, which is a
31:21
platform outside the ring like really echoing the sounds and
31:25
then he'd like legit gets hurt during this part too, right?
31:30
Yes. Oh yes!
31:31
Oh, right off at one point, RVD goes to climb up to the top.
31:36
Climbs up to the top of the Pod and he's like holding onto the
31:39
chains. Very awkwardly and he jumps off.
31:46
Right. Am I am I hitting this part?
31:47
Correct. Know, I'm getting there early.
31:49
I'm sorry, we're getting too early.
31:51
Yeah, that's what Jericho's in. So, this is the part where
31:54
Jericho pulls him through the chains.
31:55
I apologize. I'm jumping ahead.
31:58
No, no. So this, this is my fault.
32:00
I'm jumping ahead here. Sorry.
32:02
I've gone off script here, pal. So keep on going, but yes,
32:08
eventually what happens is? Triple H actually gets hurt by a
32:14
an awkward spot, which we'll get to in a little while sorry.
32:17
I jumped the gun? No, no, Rusty.
32:18
I'm not. Yeah, so at this point, our
32:22
video goes climb off of Jericho's pod, Jericho still in
32:25
there, Jericho pulls him, down through the chain-link roof.
32:29
I thought it was thinking spot. Yeah, RVD fights him off Jericho
32:32
like that, inside the Pod, Triple H comes joins in on it.
32:36
And again, like this for first five minutes, Triple H basically
32:40
gets destroyed by RVD. Jericho is the first man out of
32:45
his pod goes, after RVD, RVD continues to dominate.
32:49
And he dominates Jericho and Triple H who are like the two
32:52
big heels in this match. Now, one thing about the
32:58
entrance, the the sound that they played in the peacock
33:02
version of this event was absolutely different than what
33:06
it is in the arena. Like, I can guarantee it.
33:10
Like, I am sitting there and I have it on in the background as
33:14
I'm doing other things and I like shot my head up.
33:16
Like that's not right, that's not the sound.
33:18
Like it was a very specific WWE sound and this was completely
33:24
foreign to me and it wasn't it was it was strange but the way
33:28
that they lit it up, look like a video game and it like yeah, you
33:31
can actually see like the lights going from pot to pot which one
33:35
it's going to be. And it was really cool.
33:37
It was really well done. I remember that part of watching
33:40
this event live but like I don't remember that being the sound,
33:45
did it? What was it?
33:46
A like a Royal Rumble type buzzer.
33:48
Yeah it was like a like this ominous
33:51
doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo. Yeah, music.
33:53
And then it was like the lights would stop and then it would
33:57
open up and it would be the Roar of the crowd and everybody was
34:00
like what they do, not seem like super cheesy music that went
34:04
wrong and I It was it was bizarre maybe I am mixing it up
34:08
with what it is now. But this, this sound certainly
34:11
was not right in my brain and it shot me up of like this, this is
34:15
screwed up. Wait a second, what a strange
34:17
thing to Tinker with. And oh yeah.
34:18
Right, it's very odd, maybe even own the rights to whatever music
34:24
that was. I know it's stupid.
34:27
So after Booker, T comes out evens, the odds against Triple H
34:31
and Jericho and then, you know, it turns into the classic two
34:35
faces. Like lining up going off on each
34:38
other and then they eventually take out Jericho and Triple H
34:44
then 7, Booker or ton of fun here.
34:46
I think I totally agree this man.
34:48
There's like a crap. They're like that.
34:50
Yeah. You know, tossed by the wayside
34:52
but they're like, kind of the engine here.
34:54
I would say they they it's pretty like six.
34:58
Very iconic guys, especially for this time, but it's like guys
35:03
that you almost don't. Ember their role with the
35:07
company at this point, because they've played so many different
35:09
hats and so many different roles.
35:12
Yeah, you're totally right. It feels like this 2002 time.
35:15
I know it gets a lot of love now, like, looking back, but in
35:19
our fandom, it's a really fuzzy fuzzy time.
35:23
And like, for me in particular, I went to two shows in the year,
35:27
one in January 12, November. And I like don't remember
35:31
anything from 0 to like looking back.
35:33
There's so many foreign story. Mine's end pairings and like
35:38
we're talking about Jericho we don't even know whose Tag Team
35:41
Champions partner is like it's a bizarre time that I like vaguely
35:45
remember bits and pieces of just like I vaguely remember bits and
35:49
pieces of this card. Yeah.
35:50
Yeah for me it's like the high Watermark of my fandom and the
35:54
old days is like when they buy it when Vince buys WCW, right?
35:59
Yes. And then I don't know year or so
36:02
later it's WrestleMania 18 you got the whole good versus Rock.
36:05
That kind of stuff. And then at that point it like
36:08
crests and it recedes and then you know, like he's we've
36:12
mentioned many times in the strobes and college and your
36:14
fandoms in and out. And there this is blurry like,
36:17
like you said, it's so it's you try to wrap your head around the
36:20
Angles and who's doing what? And it's just kind of difficult,
36:23
I think. Oh, extremely, they blur into
36:26
other story, it's that. Yeah, we're kind of in, and out
36:29
on and then you disconnect him is crossed wires and all he.
36:33
And I think it's because it was almost Bad thing that it is a
36:37
bad thing. I got that they brought to BC W
36:39
and then they took on all these guys and then there was the
36:41
roles got blurred and they almost became kind of wcws in a
36:45
way with bringing on these guys that you know, where what they
36:49
were up against the whole time, the guys, who ya gonna wrestle
36:51
over? Just big names, big contract.
36:53
So it's just a really interesting time here.
36:55
Mmm, so back to the match, we get RVD goes to climb the pot.
37:00
Again, this is what Matt was alluding to earlier.
37:04
He climbs the Pod and And in my opinion, he like grabs the
37:08
chains and you know, he's going to go for the Frog Splash and
37:11
it's like the weakest looking frog Splash ever.
37:14
So it's awful. It looks like call me.
37:17
It's all yeah, it's so it's all knees.
37:19
Legs are straight like it's super awkward.
37:22
So what happens is is that he from a normal frog frog.
37:26
Splash sure. Like think of Montez Ford.
37:29
Now, he launches himself. Yes.
37:31
Six feet in the air off. The turnbuckle.
37:33
He gets to do his little frog splash.
37:36
Action whatever you want to call it but in this scenario RVD
37:41
looks like he's acting like he's never been on top of the Pod
37:44
before. Yeah, and he's up there and he's
37:46
trying to calculate. Oh shit.
37:48
This chain link fence is right above my head.
37:51
I don't have the ability to actually Elevate off of this
37:55
thing. First of all, there's no roof on
37:57
it. It's just chain link on the top.
37:59
So he's standing on a metal bar essentially, and instead of
38:03
being able to launch himself up and Then down he just like leans
38:07
forward and just Falls. So the details no sorry, go, go,
38:12
go. No, I was going to say and when
38:14
he actually lands he lands leg first like shin me first right
38:18
across Triple H's throat like oh no joke completely not a work.
38:23
He legit hurt himself at this time or RVD.
38:27
Yeah. Was fell across his throat and
38:29
really messed Triple H up for the rest of the match.
38:33
Yeah. You like crushed his larynx or
38:34
something for it. Along those lines.
38:37
Yeah. And and so they sell it like RVD
38:40
got hurt in my opinion. So I watched it and you can see,
38:45
there's a moment where Earl hebner goes and throws up up the
38:50
X, like, while standing over Triple H.
38:52
And like, our video is kind of off to the side a little bit and
38:56
for whatever and you see it, you watch.
38:58
And you can see another ref come like, run into the back.
39:02
Well, but then, shortly after that.
39:05
He it's super awkward. The X happens, RVD then takes a
39:09
drop. Kick off the top rope from
39:10
Booker T and is eliminated. So I guess in my mind that's why
39:14
I'm like, oh, RVD got hurt. But then when you know, you do
39:17
dig a little bit more, you find out, it was just that was how it
39:21
was supposed to go out, I guess, Triple H, like, vanishes from
39:26
this match for a long time, like after he takes this frog, Splash
39:29
across the throat, he do you see Earl come over and check on him
39:34
and then after that. He just kind of lays out like
39:38
some wooden like you'd see HBK do in a Royal Rumble where he's
39:42
using the inside. So they said in there's an
39:44
article that I read with, you know, bits and pieces of
39:47
interviews from other places and Triple H said, they'd send a
39:50
doctor to the ring who was talking to him through the
39:53
grates. And I was like, do not stop
39:55
this. I've got it and he said he could
39:56
barely talk throughout it. And the problem with the match
40:00
was none of them had ever. They didn't see the structure
40:04
until that day. A wall right in the garden, they
40:08
went in. They didn't really practice any
40:10
spots because of how like stiff the entire structure was and
40:15
they said that it was just a absolute disaster and then just
40:20
everything gets like everything just gets worse as it goes.
40:26
I was going to ask like, have it, did they practice in it?
40:30
You're saying they didn't see it till that day.
40:32
Yeah, yeah, yeah, crazy. Till that day, so after Booker
40:36
T, Booker T eliminates RVD we get cane out next.
40:40
He takes out everyone eventually throwing Jericho through the
40:43
plexiglass, which is a highlights, a good spot if you
40:47
ask me fan, think I'm crazy for it.
40:50
Things at this point of really picking up.
40:53
You have to retake say, it's not.
40:54
It's bulletproof, but it's not chaotic.
40:56
Yeah, they don't pop for you cane but like, all right.
40:59
Yep, you have to remember that when Bischoff is explaining the
41:03
structure in the very beginning, he, Is talking about how the the
41:08
combatants will be behind, bulletproof glass, and steel.
41:12
And King goes bulletproof. Yeah, yeah.
41:15
Classics like he's like no quick.
41:19
Don't forget he's like, but he's quick.
41:21
He's witty. Oh yeah, it could find to an
41:24
eternal locked chamber. You may want to use a dictionary
41:27
for Eternal. Okay, hi shatters.
41:30
So he came you know he's everybody's taken out but
41:35
eventually To Jericho eliminating Booker T with a
41:38
lionsault. So we're down to six guys, even
41:42
comes to guys where the six guy even comes.
41:45
So the crazy part about Kane's entrance, I read this as well in
41:49
a story. Hold on let me find it.
41:52
So Jericho's quoted back in 2017 the countdown began lights Flash
41:57
and another pod opens Jericho. At this point thinks it's going
42:00
to be Michaels but then before he knows what's happening, he
42:03
gets attacked from behind by Kane.
42:06
They opened the wrong door, he said this is Jericho's quoted.
42:10
As saying they opened the wrong door, they opened the door for
42:13
Cain to come out rather than Shawn Michaels to all the stuff
42:15
we had to come up with in the back and all this effort that
42:18
we'd basically wasted was thrown out the window that we had to
42:22
call it on the Fly. Wow.
42:25
Yeah. Is that crazy?
42:26
So then Triple H says that Jericho and I laugh about this
42:29
all the time I had just gotten hurt with his throat, Jericho
42:33
didn't know it, he had no clue what was going.
42:35
On, they opened the wrong pod, Jericho rolled over to me and
42:39
went oh my God, they opened the wrong pod.
42:41
I'm like I'm hurt, he's looking at me like, oh my God, he just
42:45
freaked out in the worst possible scenario is happening.
42:48
At that moment that's all like literally he's awesome.
42:51
Everything is completely on the fly but you wouldn't have known
42:56
it like watching back. I did not notice it.
42:59
So and again I have in my notes that Triple H was off to the
43:03
side during this Shawn finally enters.
43:05
As the match hits all his classic, like off the Rope
43:08
signature Spa, just launching himself at Kane Jericho, and
43:13
we're down to four. We've got Triple H, Jericho,
43:15
both bloody and, and Kane, and Shawn Michaels are left.
43:22
Kane's cleaning, house chokeslamming, everyone left and
43:24
right. And then I don't know where it
43:27
came, Shawn hits cane with Sweet Chin Music because you know,
43:31
Kane's got to look strong here. So he things a pedigree, right?
43:35
From Triple H, and then Jericho hits the lionsault to eventually
43:39
eliminate Kane. And then, this is where I think
43:43
the real treat happens just to see the three of these guys in
43:46
the ring together. Hundreds of Jericho, Triple H
43:48
and Shawn Michaels jrn Lawler was just selling Shaun's back
43:54
injury. At this point, they love they
43:56
would sell not forever that. Yeah, I like that.
43:59
This card this match specifically at Wrestlemania 19,
44:04
which is the next recipe. Romania in a few months or I
44:07
don't know half a year or so, all these guys are involved with
44:10
each other on that card. You've got Michaels and Jericho.
44:13
You've got Booker and Triple H, right?
44:16
And Kane. And RVD are a team on Sunday
44:19
night heat. But yes WrestleMania, which is
44:21
kind of messed up those guys weren't even on the card right
44:23
now. So I don't.
44:24
This is interesting. So these are the guys though,
44:26
right? Yes.
44:27
Yeah, especially the for you know I love how you could hear
44:31
Jericho throughout this point in the match.
44:33
Like come on, you son of a bitch, man.
44:36
Like, it's just so good as him, and Triple H, like take turns
44:40
teeing off on Sean. Not gonna lie.
44:43
Jericho really gets his shit in here, you know, without a doubt,
44:46
they put over that lionsault. Massive.
44:49
Yes, match, he's hitting it like crazy.
44:53
He gets Triple H in the walls of Jericho like Jericho, really get
44:58
some shine in this entire me. Yeah, it's cool.
45:00
Especially as Jericho guy, it's cool to see him.
45:04
Get some love here. Yep, I like Like his.
45:06
I like his look this whole year. Yeah.
45:08
Me too. It's before his Chiefs caves in
45:13
gets a concave chest later in life.
45:15
So Sean flying around though. Yeah.
45:17
His hair moves like, is it who to call back some point Meets
45:22
World? Eric?
45:24
Yeah, it's Harris. Just it moves like that or
45:27
Shawn, Shawn Hunter. Yes, yes.
45:30
Either one. I don't want.
45:31
Ya know headed freaks. Lines up.
45:36
He just goes for another line Salt and to take out Sean and
45:42
Jericho's throwing a tantrum because it doesn't work, it
45:44
doesn't. Eliminate Sean, we get like
45:47
classic moonsault off the top rope from Sean, Jericho goes for
45:54
the pin, Triple H pulls him off, this is where it makes no sense
45:57
to me. Like, you're not getting
45:59
anything out of this Triple H, my by not delivering the
46:02
pinfall, but this is where R WWE's, camera work is just
46:08
top-notch right? You've got Jericho has Triple H
46:12
in the walls of Jericho for like a solid minute, 60 seconds and
46:16
then Sean who you think is out cold, boom out of the shot.
46:20
Sweet Chin Music takes him out Sean pins and eliminates
46:24
Jericho. Then we're left with, you know,
46:26
the the iconic Duo of Triple H and Shawn Michaels and some of
46:31
the spots here just incredible. Triple H slingshot.
46:35
Shawn Michaels through the plexiglass of the other pod.
46:39
Definitely. Not bulletproof.
46:41
Yeah. No.
46:42
No. The interesting spot.
46:45
I don't know if you caught this Sean's about to eat a pedigree
46:47
on the outside steel and for some reason Hefner's like
46:51
begging him, not to do it. Like don't do it.
46:54
Triple H don't do. I'm like what why?
46:57
Anyway, Sean reverses it with a slingshot into the chain links
47:02
and just classic like the elbow off the top of the pie.
47:05
Pod from Sean to Triple H. Sorry, I'm just blabbering about
47:09
this and don't get to the end as he as he drops.
47:12
That Elbow. Sean goes up to the, to the Pod,
47:15
lowers the elbow. If you watch.
47:16
Triple H, normally you would take an elbow straight to the
47:20
chest, right? He rolls onto his side and takes
47:23
it in the ribs and, like, on his arm, because he's protecting his
47:27
from close to my neck. Yeah, don'tdon't mess with me,
47:29
but he was saying like, it was flaring up every single time he
47:33
got hit. So imagine taking a yeah in
47:35
elbow. Oh, off the top of a pod wolf.
47:39
Alright and so Mike, Mike has texted in his phone a friend
47:44
Christian was tet, excuse me. Chris Jericho was Tag Team
47:48
Champions with Christian won the titles from hurricane, the
47:52
hurricane and Kane October 14th 2002 on Raw in Montreal.
47:59
Quebec Canada, he wears creamy held it on help.
48:03
They held it until December 15th, 2002, when they dropped it
48:06
to, Booklet seal Gold Dust quick title change era quick.
48:11
Yeah. Alright so let's get to the to
48:14
the finish, Triple H, reverses back there but reversing back
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and forth. He hits a pedigree.
48:22
We think it's over Shawn kicks out at the last minute and this
48:25
is where I love like. I feel like now there's just so
48:29
many false finishes in wrestling.
48:31
It's like, it's too much here. There's there's one false finish
48:35
you think. Triple H has it?
48:37
No, No he Sean is turns it into a back body.
48:43
Drop the pedigree and weights as Triple H gets up land, Sweet
48:47
Chin Music and just the ending is incredible because it's also
48:52
out of nowhere and one ways hens through after he hits the Sweet
48:57
Chin Music, right? He spins and kind of falls for
48:59
the pinfall. It's great.
49:03
You don't does I apologize? I probably didn't deliver that
49:06
that ending as nicely. As I'd like to but it's worth a
49:09
re-watch and Jr. Is like the comparison to the
49:14
miracle call from the Olympics. The Winter Olympics is pathetic
49:19
Jr.'s. Got no voice.
49:20
He sells that shit out of Michael's winning and confetti
49:25
Falls and MSG. It it was there was a lot of
49:28
fun. The crowd is on fire for the
49:32
entire back and forth, like the entire ending of this match.
49:35
The finish this match with the Back and forth to the false
49:38
finish and all that the crowd really comes up and again, fuzzy
49:43
in my brain. Sure.
49:45
I was probably drinking. I don't even know.
49:48
No. Like honey, I don't know man.
49:49
You can't drink that. That's a good point, good point.
49:54
Yeah. Oh shit.
49:55
Maybe you're right anyway, ruined are.
49:58
Oh man, yeah, I don't know. But regardless, it's all fuzzy
50:05
and my brain and this The one thing I do remember is that, I
50:09
purchased two of the Rob Van Dam RVD foam fingers and they were
50:15
in my parents in my closet in my parents house until they sold it
50:19
and then now I went looking for him.
50:21
Oh right. As Ted was getting huge, I was
50:23
like, oh shit. I gotta go find these and they
50:25
were gone. Oh man.
50:27
Brutal brutal. Um, to know I had to do the ark.
50:32
Yeah like that. That's that's great.
50:35
So alright, let's give this match can In the cooler.
50:38
Anybody want to go first? I feel like you always.
50:40
Are you want me to go first, you go it, you sure.
50:43
Alright. So my favorite wrestler wins his
50:45
first title. Since what 97 I'm gonna give
50:49
this brown Jim unrelated to the, the gear, the match was
50:57
incredible but Jim you said this on the Royal Rumble episode.
51:01
How you? You're like in the minority of
51:04
people that don't like to go back and watch Royal Rumbles.
51:07
This match was fun. I like the Elimination Chambers.
51:10
I think they're great premise and they really work but I feel
51:13
like they're not the kind of match that I go back and watch,
51:17
right. This one had a lot of history to
51:18
it. A lot of you know 20 years old
51:20
is wild. I still I can only give it three
51:23
cans in the cooler. I was entertained, but I don't
51:28
know. I left feeling like I wanted a
51:30
little bit more. It was a very it was, it was a
51:35
solid like our of of the Chamber match and I don't know, kind of
51:41
guys, yeah, there's nothing wrong with it.
51:44
Yeah, there's nothing wrong with the match itself like at all, it
51:48
doesn't have flaws and I was very entertained.
51:53
I'm not going to say it's like my favorite match that we've
51:55
ever watched or you know something that I would like the
51:58
top of my list that I would re-watch but it's definitely
52:01
cool to go back and And look at it 20 years later and how
52:06
they've changed certain things. Yeah, I don't disagree.
52:09
I think that It's funny because last week with with Chad we were
52:14
talking about how we're usually pretty generous and I feel like
52:16
you're you're not being generous on this.
52:18
So I'm gonna give it a three and a half.
52:20
I certainly don't believe in back and forth it deserves to be
52:23
at the four level but it's it's got huge names.
52:28
Like you said it, the action is Fun.
52:30
The structure is brand-new at this point in time, looking at
52:33
everything that you've been saying there's big spots,
52:36
there's fun spots Jericho gets a ton of shine which is always
52:40
awesome for me. Learning that there's a ton of
52:43
like chaos that's going on in actuality and we're sitting back
52:48
and you know just seeing it from afar is pretty cool and trying
52:52
to piece things together and at the end of the day, I always
52:55
enjoy but three and a half is where I'm going to lay even with
52:59
the experience of being in the building because I have these
53:02
fuzzy memories about it. It wasn't as iconic of an event
53:05
like the 2000 Royal Rumble where I like I feel like I can
53:08
remember every spot every second of that entire Hard.
53:12
It's a tough one. A grade, you know, it really is
53:16
whenever do this kind of thing. I try to use the lens of like
53:20
what was it like when I watched it the first time?
53:21
And and I did watch this like we ordered this pay-per-view in
53:24
college because more than anything we wanted to like
53:28
shoehorn a Royal Rumble style gambling expected.
53:32
There were six of us in the house.
53:33
We're lucky. Here we go.
53:34
This is perfect. And I had Michaels actually.
53:36
So oh you - fuck you. I feel like you win all the
53:41
time. Hey, Nick, no, I never win these
53:44
things into. Yeah, I'm with you guys.
53:47
It's somewhere in a 33.5. Okay, I don't want to.
53:49
I'm not going to be lame and split.
53:51
The difference I'll say I'll go with a 3.5 because in is it true
53:55
that this is Michael's last World title.
53:59
And yes, yeah, that's correct. That's crazy.
54:01
So, out of all that iconic run, this is like this is it.
54:05
If you would like ask me that in Jeopardy style, I would not have
54:08
guessed like, right? Yeah.
54:09
That would have guessed there. Must have been something, so
54:11
yeah. Yeah else along the way with
54:12
like, you know, but I guess he was just he was always there for
54:16
just big matches but he didn't, he'd have the title anymore.
54:19
It's really weird to watch HBK hoist up this title to.
54:23
Yes, that's like really feel like it's very odd.
54:25
It feels very foreign to watch him.
54:28
Yeah. Lift up essentially the WCW.
54:30
Big ol blank. Yeah.
54:32
It's the same title and it feels weird with this evening, the
54:35
hair. Yeah.
54:37
Yeah. It's just bizarre ol Aunt.
54:39
It's like the AI graphic. Somebody just Tipped in Shawn
54:42
Michaels at UT. Yeah.
54:46
No. I'm glad you guys agreed because
54:48
I originally whole art, I really try to trigger you on the air.
54:54
Let's do it. I regionally had 3.5 as my my
54:57
rating to. So I thought you guys were going
55:01
to go higher so I feel good. Good.
55:03
When I'm with you on the it's interesting to re-watch point
55:05
you made I think this is probably the only chamber
55:09
Malaysian chamber I've ever seen watch this.
55:11
Can I tell you like can you even name another one?
55:14
That's iconic. Name.
55:15
Like everybody that's in it? No, no, right.
55:17
No, no, no. And that's funny because one
55:19
that I can think of is Shayna baszler when she eliminated
55:22
everyone and say, okay, you want me to call excuse for 2020?
55:26
That's the only like moment that I can think of other than that
55:30
it's like me. You didn't have a chance in one
55:32
recent route, not even recently. They had a tag team wanted in it
55:36
at one just which is cool kind of its.
55:38
But it's sad that that's the case though because the premise
55:40
is cool. Like to believe Nick, you set it
55:42
up in this where there are combining the Survivor series
55:46
and War Games, right? Like wow, that's really cool on
55:50
paper helmet, a salvo. Yeah.
55:52
And maybe could it be better? I don't know.
55:54
Yeah, yeah, we go back to like, you know, Hell in a Cell and
55:58
chamber, how they don't necessarily need to be their own
56:01
pay-per-views. And like, yeah, you imagine,
56:04
imagine a pay-per-view that had a chamber match, a Hell in a
56:07
Cell and like a money in the bank all on The card that way.
56:12
Yeah. I've you know like that would be
56:14
a lot of fun. Get rid of the TLC Pay-Per-View.
56:18
Yeah, I could really use it when necessary the hundred percent
56:21
and I really feel like we're going to get a Hell in the Cell
56:23
and some capacity at this year's WrestleMania, but we'll see
56:25
we'll see. All right, so this was this was
56:28
fun. I hope everybody enjoys this
56:30
week's elimination chamber. That's coming up, we wish you
56:34
could we give you our predictions and breakdown of it.
56:37
But we've got some more homework to do and you'll hear more from
56:41
us - Squeaks. Oh yeah.
56:42
Wow the next this is what a changing?
56:45
Yeah. Shifting the next week you guys
56:49
we're we're going to be talking about test and Stephanie getting
56:54
married on Monday Night Raw or if that actually happens.
56:58
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