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The Bartender Knows It All with Wells Adams · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast
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  Speaker 1: with on our radio.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome to the Almost Famis podcast today.
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  Speaker 3: Before I get into the Paradise chat, I just want
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  Speaker 3: a breath taking coastal sunset. Discover your seaside escape at
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  Speaker 3: the Porto Fino Hotel and Marina. Now let's get back
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  Speaker 3: to our interview. I am sitting with uh somebody who
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  Speaker 3: has been a part of Bachelor in Paradise for how
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  Speaker 3: many years? Eight seasons and there's This was season ten,
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  Speaker 3: so you missed the first two, but you were on
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  Speaker 3: one of those seasons. Yeah, so I was on three,
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  Speaker 3: and then I was the bartender for four, five, six, seven, eight.
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  Speaker 4: Nine and ten.
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  Speaker 3: Goodness gracious, uh, I want to just start because eight
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  Speaker 3: eight years, eight seasons of anything is a long time.
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  Speaker 3: When you show up to paradise, does it feel like
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  Speaker 3: home to you? Well, this one didn't because we went
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  Speaker 3: to a new location. We went to Costa Rica. I
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  Speaker 3: mean we did the first nine seasons in Sallylyta, so
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  Speaker 3: that felt like home. I knew that place very well.
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  Speaker 3: What was funny is that the audience knows it really
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  Speaker 3: well too. And in production we had have all these
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  Speaker 3: like code names for things like jungle path or tree
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  Speaker 3: house or hobbit hole or boom Boom room, and then
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  Speaker 3: it became part of like the lore of Bachelor Nation,
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  Speaker 3: like they started picking up on it and using it,
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  Speaker 3: which is very funny. So, but this season felt very
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  Speaker 3: different because it was in a new location. But like
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  Speaker 3: if every season has a theme, the theme of this
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  Speaker 3: one was change. Like everything was different, you know. We
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  Speaker 3: we moved locations, we brought in the Goldens, and then
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  Speaker 3: all of a sudden, we turn it into a game
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  Speaker 3: show with a money element and all these relationship tests,
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  Speaker 3: and it was just completely different. So to answer your question, no,
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  Speaker 3: it felt like doing a completely different show for me.
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  Speaker 4: Did you need that? Was that exciting for you?
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  Speaker 5: I think that, you know, the only constant in life
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  Speaker 5: is change, and I think that if you're not changing
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  Speaker 5: and evolving, you're gonna be left behind. The show and
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  Speaker 5: the ip is and the fans are huge, but I
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  Speaker 5: think at some point you need to pivot to trying
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  Speaker 5: different things and seeing what works. And I'll be the
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  Speaker 5: first to admit, like, some things that we did I
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  Speaker 5: think were amazing, and like we need to implement going forward,
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  Speaker 5: and some things I think didn't work as well and
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  Speaker 5: we need to revert back to like what it was originally.
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  Speaker 5: Like a couple examples, like I knew the audience was
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  Speaker 5: going to be upset with the song being different, and
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  Speaker 5: halfway through the season the song came back.
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  Speaker 3: Hell, I want to know because we were I mean,
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  Speaker 3: I was very vocal about not liking the song being different.
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  Speaker 3: It did feel like Bachelor Nation on at least on
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  Speaker 3: social media, was like we we missed the song and
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  Speaker 3: then it did go back Was that a pivot mid
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  Speaker 3: season by production, do you think or was that always
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  Speaker 3: the plan?
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  Speaker 4: Don't. I have no idea.
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  Speaker 5: I could be totally wrong, but I assume that's a
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  Speaker 5: note for ABC being like, bring the song back.
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  Speaker 4: People are up. I like that they're listening to the audience.
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  Speaker 5: Absolutely, And that's one thing that I think that a
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  Speaker 5: lot of people in the past have criticized the show
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  Speaker 5: for is that they don't listen to the audience. It's
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  Speaker 5: not the Bachelor we wanted, it's not the Bachelrette we wanted,
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  Speaker 5: And so I think that that was cool. They made
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  Speaker 5: some other tweaks too, Like you know, in the past,
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  Speaker 5: we would always do credit roll, which is kind of
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  Speaker 5: like the silly scenes that happened while the credits are rolling,
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  Speaker 5: and that kind of wasn't there in the beginning, and
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  Speaker 5: then as season went on, that kind of came back,
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  Speaker 5: you know, the intro with like the silly intros kind
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  Speaker 5: of comes back. And then the things that like veterination
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  Speaker 5: loves were still there, like funny lower thirds, like the chirons,
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  Speaker 5: you know, like it says someone's name and then it
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  Speaker 5: says like some funny stat or whatever it, you know,
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  Speaker 5: applies that thing and then I think that you know,
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  Speaker 5: the the challenges, the relationship challenges, albeit like I know
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  Speaker 5: that the cast was annoyed by it and like, this
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  Speaker 5: is not what they signed up for, and that was
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  Speaker 5: kind of like the conversation that was happening during it.
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  Speaker 5: But after going through it and experiencing it and then
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  Speaker 5: seeing how successful the show was, because if the show's
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  Speaker 5: success is a derivative.
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  Speaker 4: Of who leaves the leaves the beach.
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  Speaker 5: In a couple, then I think that we had one
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  Speaker 5: of the most successful shows we've had in a very
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  Speaker 5: long time. And I think that the challenges and the
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  Speaker 5: relationship exercises that we did helped. I think it showed
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  Speaker 5: people who people really were, and that's like the most
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  Speaker 5: important thing, you know, because when you're on when you're
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  Speaker 5: on a first date, you're kind of just showing your
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  Speaker 5: best self, right, and if you're on a dating show
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  Speaker 5: that's being filmed, you're probably always trying to show your
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  Speaker 5: best self. Understandable, everyone would do it. But if you
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  Speaker 5: get thrown into like a very competitive situation, like your
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  Speaker 5: true colors are going to come out, Like you know,
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  Speaker 5: the cat learned that Dale's very competitive, but like not
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  Speaker 5: in a bad way. Just like a thing that probably
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  Speaker 5: wouldn't have been broached if we did the show the
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  Speaker 5: way we did.
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  Speaker 2: So I think that.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, it pushed couples to the limit, but then it
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  Speaker 5: also like kind of fused them and bonded them more
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  Speaker 5: so than it has in the past, and I like,
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  Speaker 5: I looking back, I think it was a really cool
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  Speaker 5: pivot that we implemented this year, and I hope like
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  Speaker 5: that continues going forward.
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  Speaker 4: You mentioned that.
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  Speaker 3: Really, I mean from the production side to a fan side,
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  Speaker 3: for a successful season be done, it's really what couples
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  Speaker 3: come together. The money element this year was a huge
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  Speaker 3: element to be added in. It wasn't something that you
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  Speaker 3: just mentioned there, and the change that were made, I
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  Speaker 3: think from a fans perspective, the concern was, well, then
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  Speaker 3: love isn't the point here, But if that still is
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  Speaker 3: the marker of success for the team putting together the show,
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  Speaker 3: how do you balance those two things where money is
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  Speaker 3: at the end, especially going forward, You got I think
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  Speaker 3: Paradise got lucky this year with two couples that really
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  Speaker 3: like each other, but if that doesn't always happen, then
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  Speaker 3: it's going to become just a complete game show.
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  Speaker 5: It's never stated, but the truth is the last relationship
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  Speaker 5: challenge is the money. It's what are you going to choose?
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  Speaker 5: And if you chose the money, then you failed that
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  Speaker 5: relationship challenge, right, Yeah, And so.
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  Speaker 2: That's what happened.
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  Speaker 5: They both didn't Both couples didn't choose the money. They
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  Speaker 5: chose love. And I'm still winning the money, of course.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, like I get it. I understand.
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  Speaker 5: I understand fans bocking at the whole thing, and it
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  Speaker 5: takes away kind of the the magic of paradise. But
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  Speaker 5: if we're asking these people to effectively the mission statement
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  Speaker 5: is is that we hope you leave together in the
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  Speaker 5: in the best world possible. You get engaged. For asking
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  Speaker 5: these people to go do this, I do think. And
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  Speaker 5: it's not like these people are making a lot of
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  Speaker 5: money going on the show. Just so everyone knows, fair enough,
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  Speaker 5: you guys need to know that, like, it's not a
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  Speaker 5: lot of money.
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  Speaker 4: You're not retiring, you're.
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  Speaker 5: Not even close. You're actually probably screwed because you're not
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  Speaker 5: working while you're there. I don't think it's a terrible
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  Speaker 5: thing to be, like, have we got a couple of
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  Speaker 5: dollars if we're gonna get if we're engaged, you know,
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  Speaker 5: we've got a couple of dollars too, you know, used
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  Speaker 5: to buy a place together, or like move in together,
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  Speaker 5: or maybe it goes to a wedding or something like.
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  Speaker 5: I don't think that that's a terrible thing. I can,
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  Speaker 5: you know, hindsight twenty twenty for me, And obviously like
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  Speaker 5: it could have gone tear wrong, but it also would
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  Speaker 5: have been scintillating television if someone chose money over love, right.
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  Speaker 3: Like heartbreaking television, because I really liked the couples that
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  Speaker 3: ended up together. Yeah, I think the big question now
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  Speaker 3: because the changes were drastic, took it a little bit
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  Speaker 3: to use to and then very enjoyable to watch experience
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  Speaker 3: be a part of. And we were all on the
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  Speaker 3: edge of our seats when it came down to that
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  Speaker 3: finale episode.
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  Speaker 4: How do you move forward?
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  Speaker 3: Though the mystery is now revealed true, you're gonna win
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  Speaker 3: money if you stay together, and you're gonna win money
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  Speaker 3: if you break up. So how does the show move
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  Speaker 3: forward and keep this like gripping television that we all
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  Speaker 3: experienced this year?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, obviously it'll change. You can't have the same thing again.
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  Speaker 5: And so it's going to be a situation of we're
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  Speaker 5: going to pivot. You got to know we're gonna pivot,
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  Speaker 5: but we're not gonna tell you how it's gonna go, right,
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  Speaker 5: But gotta give you my pitch for my show that
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  Speaker 5: I think would be great. Yeah, okay, and I've by
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  Speaker 5: the way, I've pitched this too. I've pitched this to ABC, Jamie.
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  Speaker 5: I pitched this idea to you. So if you make
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  Speaker 5: this show and I don't get a credit where you're
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  Speaker 5: in trouble.
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  Speaker 4: Now we're on record, it's good. Uh. I think.
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  Speaker 5: It would be so fun if we did Camp Paradise
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  Speaker 5: or Camp Bachelor, whatever you want to call it. We
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  Speaker 5: rent out a camp, right, and you do it during
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  Speaker 5: school season, so like there's not kids there. You bring
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  Speaker 5: the most popular Bachelor Nation people to camp and they
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  Speaker 5: have to do camp stuff. So it's like a dragon
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  Speaker 5: boat race and canoe race and underwater basket weaving and
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  Speaker 5: like archery and stuff, and everyone has to go sleep
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  Speaker 5: in different bunks, but you can like sneak out and
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  Speaker 5: go to someone else's bunk and you're doing challenges for money.
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  Speaker 5: But then like with love happens, it's fine. And then
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  Speaker 5: here's where I think it gets great. You can bring
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  Speaker 5: back a bunch of Bachelor Nation favorites who are married
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  Speaker 5: who can't like go and just like canoodle around at
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  Speaker 5: nine o'clock exactly. So like me and you were, we
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  Speaker 5: have counselors and Jesse is like the leader of this
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  Speaker 5: whole thing, and then they'll be like nights where like
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  Speaker 5: the camp counselors are like, we're going into town to
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  Speaker 5: go to the bar, and then someone gets arrested and
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  Speaker 5: Jesse's got to come and bail us out. I can
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  Speaker 5: see it being so fun. And the thing is that
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  Speaker 5: it's hard to convince a bunch of people who are
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  Speaker 5: beautiful and you know, don't have a whole lot of
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  Speaker 5: problems in their lives to come to Paradise to potentially
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  Speaker 5: look bad. But if you told any adult you want
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  Speaker 5: to go to camp, yes I do.
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  Speaker 2: That sounds amazing. So anyways, Camp Bachelor is my idea,
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  Speaker 2: and I think we should do it.
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  Speaker 3: I actually love the idea because I just said on
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  Speaker 3: our last episode of the Almost Famous podcast, one of
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  Speaker 3: my favorite scenes this whole season of Paradise is when
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  Speaker 3: they had to camp, and I like this was it
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  Speaker 3: was a great mix. We just got done. You just
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  Speaker 3: hosted the reunion the finale with everybody did a great job.
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  Speaker 3: But one of the things that were said, Kat said,
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  Speaker 3: I went to Paradise because there is air conditioning this year.
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  Speaker 4: That's great. I don't. I think that's a bad thing.
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  Speaker 3: However, I want to see beautiful people in very uncomfortable situations.
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  Speaker 3: I miss that. I missed that about Paradise. I think
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  Speaker 3: your idea matches that because that's what was going on
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  Speaker 3: at the camp.
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  Speaker 4: They were breaking down.
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  Speaker 3: If you would have left them out there for another hour,
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  Speaker 3: you had pure panic happening at Paradise. Yeah, I liked it.
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  Speaker 3: I would love to watch that. I'd love to be
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  Speaker 3: a part of that. And I know you and I
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  Speaker 3: would be the ones sneaking out to go to the
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  Speaker 3: bar that could get in trouble.
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  Speaker 4: I'm always intrigued by you. I love Jesse.
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  Speaker 3: I think Jesse has done a terrific job filling in
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  Speaker 3: and taking over the franchise. I've always said publicly, and
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  Speaker 3: you don't have to comment on this, that Paradise should
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  Speaker 3: be Wells's show, not for any hit on Jesse. Again,
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  Speaker 3: I just think you are Paradise and you have been
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  Speaker 3: for so long. But even with that being said, you
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  Speaker 3: play still such a crucial role in Paradise. These we
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  Speaker 3: just saw it on stage during the reunion podcast. These
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  Speaker 3: people trust you. You care about them, You get to
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  Speaker 3: know their relationships, who they are as people. You're giving
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  Speaker 3: them advice, you're making them drinks, You're around them a ton.
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  Speaker 3: It isn't just it's not an easy job. And I
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  Speaker 3: think that's something I always like to bring up, is
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  Speaker 3: this is not just like an hour out of your
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  Speaker 3: day every day for a month. This is you're a
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  Speaker 3: bartender legitimately in Paradise. I want to for the listeners
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  Speaker 3: when you enter into a season of Paradise knowing that
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  Speaker 3: you are working for a month straight, digging into love
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  Speaker 3: and also making drinks. What kind of mindset do you
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  Speaker 3: bring into that just as the bartender and not kind
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  Speaker 3: of the host of the show. Yeah, well, thank you
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  Speaker 3: for saying that. You know, I've.
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  Speaker 4: Eight seasons.
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  Speaker 5: I've thought about this a lot, and like, don't get
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  Speaker 5: me wrong, Yes, I wanted to host Bachelor in Paradise,
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  Speaker 5: but I recognize that I can do something that Jesse
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  Speaker 5: can't because I'm ingrained in the show, because I'm I'm
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  Speaker 5: there the entire day, I'm experiencing more of it. The
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  Speaker 5: stakes for me are higher because I'm friends with all
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  Speaker 5: these people. I'm making them drinks. They're you know, they're
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  Speaker 5: they're laying their heart out on the line, and it
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  Speaker 5: allows me to do something that I think Jesse can't do,
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  Speaker 5: which is to be what the audience is thinking, like
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  Speaker 5: say what the audience is thinking, which they did a
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  Speaker 5: good bit of that this year, where you know, I
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  Speaker 5: think the audience never wants to feel dumb, and when
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  Speaker 5: it's when it's never vocalized, it gets really frustrating for
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  Speaker 5: Bachelor Nations. So having me there, yes, it's important that
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  Speaker 5: I make them drinks. And I give them advice. But
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  Speaker 5: I also think it's important for me, like be in
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  Speaker 5: the interview chair, like Jesse would never be in the
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  Speaker 5: interview chair, right, but for me to be like, this
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  Speaker 5: is what's happening. This is crazy and I can't believe it,
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  Speaker 5: and like I think I'm making crazy bills. Like I
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  Speaker 5: think that's import for the audience because then they're like, Okay,
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  Speaker 5: he's justifying like what I'm saying now, uh. And I
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  Speaker 5: just don't think that a host can do that. The
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  Speaker 5: host needs to be separated a little bit, you know,
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  Speaker 5: And it sucks. I've seen it every season, and it
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  Speaker 5: happened with Chris and it happens with Jesse. When they
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  Speaker 5: come on the show, the cast knows bad things are
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  Speaker 5: about to happen, right, Like it's oh no, like she's
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  Speaker 5: gonna tell us something that we don't want to do.
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  Speaker 2: It's but when I come on the show, it's not.
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  Speaker 2: It's oh yeah, all right, we need some shots, we
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  Speaker 2: need drinks, you know.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So and it's totally two different roles.
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  Speaker 5: And you know, I think you're right, Like it would
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  Speaker 5: be weird to do Paradise, not not me, but someone
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  Speaker 5: like me doing that thing.
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  Speaker 3: It would be weird to do Paradise without you, and
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  Speaker 3: you can continue your thought.
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  Speaker 4: That's my thought.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think other people could do it, but I
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  Speaker 5: think I think that you can't just do it with
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  Speaker 5: a host. I think you need like someone like me
• 16:58
  Speaker 5: or Hannah or whatever also being there to like explain
• 17:03
  Speaker 5: what the hell is going on?
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: Now.
• 17:04
  Speaker 5: When I go to the show, my outset always is
• 17:10
  Speaker 5: because I always just want everything to be funny, like
• 17:13
  Speaker 5: that's like my default is like comedy. So my thing
• 17:16
  Speaker 5: is like, let's just do this as funny as we
• 17:20
  Speaker 5: humanly possible, right, Like, how can we make this as
• 17:22
  Speaker 5: funny as humanly possible? And so my thing is always
• 17:25
  Speaker 5: like to the cast, I'm like, this is a silly show.
• 17:28
  Speaker 4: Be silly.
• 17:28
  Speaker 5: It's fine. I think the problem is that we get
• 17:31
  Speaker 5: bogged down in the drama and the serious and you know,
• 17:34
  Speaker 5: it's the most dramatic season ever. But my favorite parts
• 17:37
  Speaker 5: of Paradise are always the funny things, right, And so
• 17:40
  Speaker 5: that's usually what I'm I'm going in being like, I
• 17:42
  Speaker 5: hope this is a fun cast. I hope that they
• 17:46
  Speaker 5: will lean into the comedy because it's you know, it's
• 17:48
  Speaker 5: supposed to open. It's a comedy it used to, especially
• 17:50
  Speaker 5: you know, with the silly intros and stuff, and so
• 17:54
  Speaker 5: that's usually my mindset going in. And I think this
• 17:56
  Speaker 5: cast did a good job of like embracing it, and
• 18:00
  Speaker 5: and I think production did a good job of making
• 18:02
  Speaker 5: it still funny. So yeah, that's my thought when I
• 18:04
  Speaker 5: come into the show.
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: You think the Goldens helped?
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: I mean, that's obviously a big changes season is we
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: entered Goldens into the mix. It was teased by you
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: and Jesse once that was announced that who knows what's
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: going to happen with the Goldens, and everybody's speculating, like
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: you know, Youngins and Golden's intermingling and having relationships that
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: really never happened. But the Goldens did come to the
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: beach this season. It was a change. What were your thoughts.
• 18:30
  Speaker 5: I was skeptical coming in one. I'm like, I don't know,
• 18:35
  Speaker 5: I'm not sure how safe it is to have a
• 18:37
  Speaker 5: bunch of elderly people in like three hundred degree heat
• 18:41
  Speaker 5: and I'm serving them my ties kill somebody. But I
• 18:46
  Speaker 5: gotta be honest with you, they brought so much energy.
• 18:50
  Speaker 5: I said it during the finale reunion show that we
• 18:52
  Speaker 5: just did like, thank God, they were there. They injected
• 18:55
  Speaker 5: that place with so much energy, and it's because they
• 18:58
  Speaker 5: don't give a like they've lived their life like they're
• 19:01
  Speaker 5: not trying to impress anyone on TV. Their parents are
• 19:04
  Speaker 5: gone and you know grandparents. No one's judging what they
• 19:07
  Speaker 5: do on the show. So it gave them this ability
• 19:10
  Speaker 5: to be very, very free, which I think a lot
• 19:12
  Speaker 5: of the cast wished they could be more like the Goldens,
• 19:15
  Speaker 5: you know, and I wish they could be too, because
• 19:18
  Speaker 5: they just came in there being like, this is the
• 19:20
  Speaker 5: greatest thing in the world.
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: I'm on vacation. Drinks are free, you know.
• 19:25
  Speaker 5: Like they weren't like, oh I'm gonna look bad or
• 19:27
  Speaker 5: like the drama. They were just having the best time.
• 19:29
  Speaker 5: And so they raised the vibes of that place so
• 19:33
  Speaker 5: many decibels that was. It was insane. And now I
• 19:36
  Speaker 5: can't imagine doing the show without them. I wonder if
• 19:39
  Speaker 5: they should get their own show. I don't hate that
• 19:42
  Speaker 5: we run into a problem with like logistics of like
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: how many things can we shoot in one year? But
• 19:49
  Speaker 5: I think it would be fun to do the show
• 19:51
  Speaker 5: and then for all the audiences. I was like, this,
• 19:53
  Speaker 5: we gross if like an old a Golden Dates a
• 19:56
  Speaker 5: young or whatever. If this whole thing is supposed to
• 19:59
  Speaker 5: be a microcos of the real world, this is basically
• 20:02
  Speaker 5: a singles retreat. I don't think that there are rules
• 20:04
  Speaker 5: for how old you have to be to go to
• 20:06
  Speaker 5: a singles retreat and it happens every day. Of course,
• 20:09
  Speaker 5: it wasn't going to happen on TV, but like we
• 20:13
  Speaker 5: had to tease it that way, right, like we're out
• 20:16
  Speaker 5: here making a TV show.
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: Uh yeah, I have a thought it could be completely
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: irrelevant and not true. One of the other things I
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: liked about the Goldens being there was when the money
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: was announced. In my mind, I'm thinking most of these
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: people at this point are retired, and they're retired for
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: a reason because they've you know, secured their egg. I
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: don't know if five hundred thousand as good as that
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: would be to be handed five hundred thousand dollars at
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: seventy five years old, I don't know if that's that
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: intriguing to them. They've kind of already kind of counted
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: what they're going to spend for the rest of their life,
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: so it did take that out of it too. In
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: my mind, Like, I don't know if Keith is up there, like, goodness, gracious,
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: I need that five hundred thousand, and he knows what
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: his situation is in Yeah, but I'm expecting that he's
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: he's not really counting on it.
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 21:05
  Speaker 5: They also worked in a romantic relationship Keith and Cathy, So,
• 21:11
  Speaker 5: you know, I think I wonder what would would have
• 21:13
  Speaker 5: happened if there was a really really strong connection with
• 21:16
  Speaker 5: Golden's at the end, Because if the barometer was like
• 21:21
  Speaker 5: who's really here for love and who isn't, which is
• 21:23
  Speaker 5: kind of what everyone was kind of getting at, then
• 21:26
  Speaker 5: you couldn't say that they don't deserve it just because
• 21:29
  Speaker 5: they're retired and they have a nest egg and they've
• 21:31
  Speaker 5: you know, got Medicare and Medicaid and everything. They've also
• 21:35
  Speaker 5: got kids too that probably, you know, could use a
• 21:38
  Speaker 5: couple extra dollars.
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: I don't know. I think you could make the argument.
• 21:41
  Speaker 5: I think it'd also be cool if you get all
• 21:43
  Speaker 5: the way to the end and then you don't take it,
• 21:44
  Speaker 5: or you give it to another company. There's a million
• 21:47
  Speaker 5: ways that it could be a cool ending. So I
• 21:50
  Speaker 5: don't know, we'll see, we'll see what happens. I think
• 21:52
  Speaker 5: it would be cool. The problem that we ran into
• 21:56
  Speaker 5: is there isn't enough pool of Golden yet to really
• 22:02
  Speaker 5: get a lot of people there for it to work.
• 22:04
  Speaker 5: A lot of people were like, why are they coming
• 22:05
  Speaker 5: in later? Wise the lesson there's just not a lot
• 22:08
  Speaker 5: of them the show. That show's only going on for
• 22:10
  Speaker 5: a couple of seasons. I think as that show continues
• 22:13
  Speaker 5: to grow and that part of Bachelor Nation grows, then
• 22:17
  Speaker 5: it'll be much easier for us to pair people up
• 22:20
  Speaker 5: and for there to be like really good lasting relationships there.
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: I think Nancy would come back to the show for
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: the next ten years if she was asked, yes, she
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: would love to be in Paradise.
• 22:29
  Speaker 6: Sude.
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: Nancy was awesome.
• 22:30
  Speaker 5: I know, you guys are both from Warsaw so, like
• 22:32
  Speaker 5: we talked a lot about Indiana. Kathy also, Kathy's great,
• 22:37
  Speaker 5: Like she needed you need a good narrator every season,
• 22:41
  Speaker 5: and she's fantastic. You know, Faith was fantastic, Leslie is
• 22:47
  Speaker 5: super sweet. And then all the guys like, I mean,
• 22:50
  Speaker 5: I've said it. I said it the open of the
• 22:53
  Speaker 5: of the finale reunion show. I think Keith should be
• 22:57
  Speaker 5: the Golden Batch. I mean, and it's like I love
• 23:01
  Speaker 5: that guy. I love being around him and the other
• 23:03
  Speaker 5: thing I was saying I was saying it to a producer.
• 23:05
  Speaker 5: I was like, if my mom met him, yeah, I'd
• 23:09
  Speaker 5: be so pumped.
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he's just like he is that guy.
• 23:12
  Speaker 5: Yeah, like the most lovely dude in the world. And like,
• 23:17
  Speaker 5: as kids, all you want is for like your parents
• 23:19
  Speaker 5: to find someone that's like awesome and fun pun to
• 23:22
  Speaker 5: be around. So anyways, that's my pitch for Keith. I
• 23:24
  Speaker 5: think that he would be the best Golden Bachelor in
• 23:27
  Speaker 5: the world.
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: It's actually kind of shocking he isn't the Golden Bachelor
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: coming up.
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: I think it's going to be talked about.
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: I think actually we're going to see people as this
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: next season airs and Keith kind of has his moment,
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: especially with who he was even during this reunion show
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: with you, and they're gonna.
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: Go, that's that's my guy.
• 23:45
  Speaker 5: Well, to be fair, though, it was an impossibility they
• 23:48
  Speaker 5: had to cast that show before we even did Paradise,
• 23:50
  Speaker 5: so like you can't say, like sure, but it still.
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: Was a wish that I think all of us. I
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: do too. But also, there's always next season. There's always
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: next season.
• 24:06
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• 24:11
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• 24:50
  Speaker 3: A couple of the situation that happened that you did
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: speak truth into. We'll start with the Jeremy Brian Parisa
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: Bailey situation. You have a moment where you come on
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: and you say, I feel like I've been taking crazy
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: pills because everybody's mad at Brian, and I'm seeing this.
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: Situation as.
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: Not that clear, Like I think maybe Jeremy could have
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: been more in the wrong than what people are leading on.
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: How did you get that read? How close were you
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: to the situation? And then how do you formulate your
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: thoughts without being like ingrained in because it felt like
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: the whole cast was on one side and you are
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: the person speaking into the viewership being like if you're
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: thinking this way, You're not wrong.
• 25:37
  Speaker 5: A lot of people that moment like resonated with a
• 25:40
  Speaker 5: lot of Bache Nation fans and for the most part
• 25:45
  Speaker 5: overwhelmingly agreed with what I had to say. And one
• 25:49
  Speaker 5: of the big like kind of hits on me was like,
• 25:52
  Speaker 5: why didn't you tell the cast this is how you felt?
• 25:55
  Speaker 5: And if for being fair I did, I told, And
• 25:57
  Speaker 5: I won't name cast names, but I I was like,
• 26:00
  Speaker 5: this is gonna look so bad, it's gonna look really
• 26:03
  Speaker 5: messed up. And if I'm hearing about this, I can't
• 26:08
  Speaker 5: say anything because that would be I would be overstepping
• 26:11
  Speaker 5: my bounds. But like, if I've heard about this, that
• 26:13
  Speaker 5: means everyone knows about it except for the one person
• 26:15
  Speaker 5: that it's about. Like, that's messed up. You need to
• 26:17
  Speaker 5: do something. You're gonna look like the girls like not
• 26:20
  Speaker 5: girls girls, And for the guys, you're gonna look like
• 26:22
  Speaker 5: guys who are defending someone who did.
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: Something kind of shady. Yeah.
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: So yeah, I stand by what I said.
• 26:29
  Speaker 5: And for me, like at the end of the day,
• 26:32
  Speaker 5: like I'm just out there trying to call balls and strikes, right,
• 26:35
  Speaker 5: and like that was.
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: A huge, huge ball.
• 26:39
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and listen, I like Jeremy a lot. I can't
• 26:45
  Speaker 5: believe that that man thought it was a good idea
• 26:48
  Speaker 5: in an interview on camera to call her like, that's
• 26:52
  Speaker 5: wild to me. But listen, it was early the girl
• 26:57
  Speaker 5: he was dating on a date with, not someone else, Like,
• 26:59
  Speaker 5: there's a lot of things that like, there's context to it,
• 27:01
  Speaker 5: but that was a wild situation.
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: It was wells again, you made Paradise better this year.
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: You always have you and I can and I believe
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: that you always will.
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: Again.
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: No hit on Jesse, I just I don't want to
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: watch Paradise without you being there. I think you bring
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: so much depth and comedy and humor and wisdom to
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: the show, switching gears completely here in the last couple
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: of minutes I have with you, obviously we did just
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: get done. You just finished the reunion episode that will
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: be airing on Bachelor Happy Hour, a friendly podcast to
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: us here at the Almost Famous Podcast. You did a
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: great job, so tune in to get all the drama.
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: We're gonna be breaking down kind of getting into more
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: details with each couple here at the Almost Famous Podcast
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: in just a few minutes. But I wanted to grab
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: you to talk about a few things that you have
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: going on. You have a new podcast, in addition to
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: the Vanity Index podcast, which I'm a subscriber and listener
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: to thank you, You have a new podcast with iHeart
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: called by Order of the Faithfuls. Yep, so rewatch and
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: break down podcasts of the Traders. You were on the
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: Traders for not as long as we wanted to see
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: you on the Traders, but you got a podcast out
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: of this, so goodness, gracious, you're winning wells tell us
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: about it.
• 28:19
  Speaker 5: Yeah, So basically we're watching the first couple seasons. It's
• 28:23
  Speaker 5: myself and Dolores, who was the winner of season three
• 28:27
  Speaker 5: of Traders, and Tamra who was on season two of Traders.
• 28:33
  Speaker 5: So it's two housewives and then this idiot and it's
• 28:37
  Speaker 5: us watching the first three seasons of Traders back with
• 28:42
  Speaker 5: the audience breaking it down, having people who are on
• 28:44
  Speaker 5: the show on the show talking about.
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: You know, everyone's.
• 28:52
  Speaker 5: How they're going about doing the show and whether or
• 28:54
  Speaker 5: not they're doing a good job as being a Faithful
• 28:57
  Speaker 5: or a Trader and all that kind of stuff, and
• 28:58
  Speaker 5: then you know, obviously a vent truly. I think early
• 29:02
  Speaker 5: next year season four will be airing, and then we'll
• 29:05
  Speaker 5: be watching it in real time with the audience, having
• 29:08
  Speaker 5: cast members on the show and continuing that. So, yeah,
• 29:12
  Speaker 5: if you're a fan of The Traders, which it seems
• 29:14
  Speaker 5: like the entire world is, it's a huge show on
• 29:18
  Speaker 5: Peacock and NBC, that you should listen.
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: To that show.
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: It's obviously a massive show. And I just wish you
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: would have been there longer because I was watching it
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: for I was prepared to watch it for a full season.
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: I watched it for I think one episode. Another thing
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: you have going on is it was just announced that
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: The Bachelor is hosting a crazy cool event that you're
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: going to be hosting or co hosting. It's called the
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: Bachelor Nation Vacation. At C it was announcing the finale.
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: There's going to be some great Bacheloration alum there, Why
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: would a listener to the podcast, a fan of Bacheloration
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: want to.
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: Come on this ship? What are you going to be
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: do doing there? Tell us more?
• 30:01
  Speaker 5: Well, I just gotta say I'm impressed that ABC or
• 30:05
  Speaker 5: Warner or whoever's putting this on was able to get
• 30:08
  Speaker 5: all these names, because like the fact that Jesse's come
• 30:12
  Speaker 5: on a cruise ship is blowing my mind. So I mean,
• 30:15
  Speaker 5: it's all the big thing.
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: He is a week freeze. I know that man needs
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: to chill out.
• 30:20
  Speaker 5: Yeah, No, I love Jesse so much, so yeah, you know,
• 30:25
  Speaker 5: Jesse's going to be there. I'm going to be there,
• 30:27
  Speaker 5: Hannah's going to be there, and then like Tyler Cameron
• 30:31
  Speaker 5: and like a lot Joey and Kelsey and Kelsey and yeah,
• 30:36
  Speaker 5: like it's amazing how many people they've got to come
• 30:39
  Speaker 5: on this boat. And then I think more names are
• 30:42
  Speaker 5: going to be released later. So if you're a fan
• 30:45
  Speaker 5: of veter Nation, like this is gonna be your opportunity
• 30:47
  Speaker 5: to like literally be stuck on a boat with all
• 30:50
  Speaker 5: these people.
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: So you're gonna get sick.
• 30:53
  Speaker 5: Yeah, So I assume my job is they're going to
• 30:57
  Speaker 5: make me bartend one night. I don't know, but I'll
• 31:01
  Speaker 5: sling some drinks on a cruise of Alito deck and
• 31:04
  Speaker 5: hang out with all the bachel Nation stands.
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: Again, It's Bachelor Nation vacation.
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: At c dot com, we have a podcast out with
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: a representative from the cruise ship talking about all the details,
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: all the fun activities, all the things going to be
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: going on that you can listen on the almost famous
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: thread too well as in closing. It's been a big week,
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: a week and a half for you. That's almost famous podcasts.
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: You want to say congratulations not only to another successful
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: season of Paradise. You crushed it and it's just such
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: a pleasure to be a fan of you and watch that,
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: but also congratulations to you and Sarah on three years together.
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: You celebrated your three year anniversary. I'll give you the mic.
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: We just had two very successful couples come out of Paradise,
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: Spencer and Jess and Alex and Andrew. Any advice for
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: them after being married for three years?
• 31:57
  Speaker 5: Oh, Elope, I loved your wedding. I know my accountant
• 32:04
  Speaker 5: didn't love that. Yeah, go to France with ten of
• 32:08
  Speaker 5: your best friends. Save all that money you're going to
• 32:10
  Speaker 5: use for the wedding and put it towards the house.
• 32:14
  Speaker 5: My father in law gave me the best piece of advice,
• 32:16
  Speaker 5: and all you need for a successful marriage is to
• 32:19
  Speaker 5: remember two words, and that's yes, dear, so yes, dear.
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 32:29
  Speaker 5: And I will say that a little behind the scenes.
• 32:32
  Speaker 5: I'm not there at the end of Paradise and the
• 32:36
  Speaker 5: reason why I'm not well, I am, but here's the
• 32:39
  Speaker 5: behind the scenes. I had to leave early because I
• 32:41
  Speaker 5: went on a golf trip with Ben Higgins and I
• 32:44
  Speaker 5: really hard to tell production, Hey, I gotta leave early
• 32:46
  Speaker 5: go play golf. So I left a day early, so
• 32:50
  Speaker 5: I wasn't there for like the end of the show.
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: But I'm appreciative of that.
• 32:55
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, And I was nervous that I was I
• 32:58
  Speaker 5: get paid episodically, and I was nervous I wasn't even
• 33:00
  Speaker 5: get paid for that episode.
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: But it was worth it.
• 33:03
  Speaker 5: But then lo and behold, I'm watching the last episode
• 33:05
  Speaker 5: and if you watch, the cast is at the bar,
• 33:08
  Speaker 5: and then it'll show like clips of me. I am
• 33:11
  Speaker 5: not there, but they wanted to make it seem like
• 33:14
  Speaker 5: I was there, you know. So then all of a
• 33:16
  Speaker 5: sudden you'll see like a background shot and it's like
• 33:18
  Speaker 5: the other guy who's like been barred to I felt.
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: Guilty about this for about four months that I but
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: we're good.
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: Were totally good. I want I'm in this show on
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: the front end.
• 33:28
  Speaker 5: But at the end I think they were like, it'd
• 33:29
  Speaker 5: be weird if Welles isn't there anymore for like this
• 33:31
  Speaker 5: last thing. So like they just had shots with me,
• 33:33
  Speaker 5: like cleaning a glass.
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: There we go. We made it. Yeah, Wells was nice
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: enough to be a good friend. Oh that was the.
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: Best trip, and we got a we got one coming up.
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: We got a good trip in two weeks coming up.
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  Speaker 3: Wasn't I play a lot of golf together? Wells, thanks
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  Speaker 3: for joining us today, Thanks for sitting down. I know
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  Speaker 3: it's been a big day for you. You just literally
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  Speaker 3: herded sixteen cats and pocket on a podcast, and you
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  Speaker 3: did a successful I was sitting in the back with
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  Speaker 3: some of the bosses and they were just like beaming.
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  Speaker 3: You crushed it. You did it. It's worth to listen again.
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  Speaker 3: It's going to be coming out there on the Bachelor
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  Speaker 3: Happy Hour podcast, but don't listen to it too long
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  Speaker 3: because we have all the couple sitting down with us
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  Speaker 3: here at the Almost Famous podcast coming up. So until
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  Speaker 3: next time, I've Been Been, I've Been Ashley.
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