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- Lucas: So, Luna, I want to talk about a board decision that, honestly, would have been unthinkable ten years ago. Nintendo's board reportedly gave the green light to a live-action Legend of Zelda film. Luna: Wait, the Zelda movie? I thought that was just a rumor. Lucas: It's been in development for years, but as of this summer, it's officially moving forward. And the board's role in that decision tells us a lot about how Nintendo has changed. Luna: But isn't Nintendo famously protective of its characters? I mean, they've said no to movies for decades. Lucas: Exactly. For years, the company treated its intellectual property like a sacred trust. Shigeru Miyamoto, the creator of Mario and Zelda, was famously hesitant to license the characters to Hollywood after the 1993 Super Mario Bros. movie disaster. Luna: Right, that movie was a flop, both critically and commercially. Lucas: So for over two decades, Nintendo basically said no to films. But the board's thinking started to shift after the Wii U failed. That console was a disaster, and the company's stock price tanked. Luna: And that's when the board brought in outside directors, right? Lucas: Yeah, they brought in people from outside the gaming world, like former bankers and tech executives. And those outsiders started asking some tough questions about how Nintendo was managing its portfolio. Luna: Like what kind of questions? Lucas: Mostly, why are we leaving so much money on the table? If Disney can turn its characters into theme parks and movies, why can't we? Luna: But Miyamoto was still skeptical, wasn't he? Lucas: He was. And that's the fascinating part. The board had to find a way to reassure him that they could protect the brand while still opening it up. They didn't just override him. Luna: So what did they do? Lucas: They created a dedicated film division within Nintendo, with Miyamoto himself as the point person. That gave him direct oversight of every project, rather than handing the IP to a studio and hoping for the best. Luna: That's smart. Keep the creator in charge, but give him a bigger sandbox. Lucas: And it worked. The Super Mario Bros. Movie came out in 2023 and grossed over a billion dollars. That changed the calculus for everyone, including the holdouts on the board. Luna: But the Zelda movie is a different beast. Zelda is more serious, more cinematic. It's not a cartoonish platformer. Lucas: Right, and that's why the board had to approve it as a live-action production. They're trusting a beloved franchise to a different medium, and that's a bigger risk than Mario. Luna: So what made them say yes this time? Lucas: I think it comes down to three things. First, the success of Mario proved the model. Second, the board now has more outsiders who see IP as an asset to be monetized, not a treasure to be guarded. And third, they've seen how companies like Marvel and Star Wars have built these long-term universes. Luna: But isn't there a risk of diluting the brand? If Zelda becomes a movie franchise, it might lose some of its mystique. Lucas: That's the tension. And it's a real one. But the board's approach is interesting. They're not just licensing the IP and walking away. They're co-producing with Sony, and they're keeping creative control in-house. Luna: So they're treating it like a strategic partnership, not a cash grab. Lucas: Exactly. And that's a big shift from the old Nintendo, which would have just said no. The board has essentially redefined what Nintendo is: a company that creates worlds, not just games. Luna: If today's episode is giving you a fresh angle on how a famously conservative company is evolving, that's exactly what we're here for. And a big part of how we keep these conversations free is listener support. If you found this useful, you can buy us a coffee at buy me a coffee dot com slash fexingo. Lucas: Yeah, it's a small gesture that goes a long way in keeping the show ad-free. But back to Nintendo. Luna: So, what does this mean for the board's future decisions? Are we going to see more movies, more theme parks? Lucas: I think so. The success of Mario and the upcoming Zelda movie are likely to pave the way for more adaptations. They've already announced a second Mario film and a live-action Zelda. And they're expanding their theme park attractions. Luna: But what about the risk of over-saturation? There's a fine line between expanding your IP and just milking it dry. Lucas: That's a valid concern, and it's one that the board is aware of. They've seen what happened to Star Wars when it was over-exposed. So they're being careful. They're not going to greenlight a new movie every year. Luna: So it's more like a slow burn. Lucas: Exactly. And that's where Miyamoto's involvement is crucial. He's the quality gatekeeper. The board trusts him to keep the projects true to the characters. Luna: But what if he's not there forever? He's in his seventies now. Lucas: That's a big question for the board, and it's something they're likely thinking about. They need to build a pipeline of talent that can carry on that vision. It's not just about the next movie, it's about the next generation of content. Luna: So the board is really thinking long-term here. Lucas: They are. And that's what makes this such an interesting case study. You have a company that was once defined by its hardware, and now it's becoming an intellectual property powerhouse. The board's willingness to embrace that shift is a big part of why Nintendo is in the position it's in today. Luna: It's a remarkable turnaround, especially when you consider how close the company came to disaster with the Wii U. Lucas: Absolutely. The Wii U was a wake-up call. And the board's response was to diversify, to think beyond the console cycle. That's a lesson for any company that relies on a single product line. Luna: So, what's your take on the Zelda movie? Are you going to watch it? Lucas: I'll definitely be there on opening night. But I'm also curious to see how the board handles the inevitable challenges. Casting, script, fan expectations. It's a high-wire act. Luna: And if they pull it off, it could be a blueprint for other gaming companies looking to expand into Hollywood. Lucas: Right, and that's the bigger picture. Nintendo is not just making a movie, they're setting a precedent. And that's why this board decision is about a lot more than just Zelda.