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229: Sister Wives Rewind - Big Boy Panties (S6 E3) · Reality TV Cringe

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  Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Reality TV Cringe. I am one
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  Speaker 1: of your Hoststelia here with my real tight homegirl and
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  Speaker 1: my daughter brother.
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  Speaker 1: Let me just tell you host something. We just recorded
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  Speaker 1: this entire episode an hour and a half, and we
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  Speaker 2: Yep, like we normally do, and the.
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  Speaker 1: Whole thing was trashed in our system. The whole shit
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  Speaker 2: no fucks.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and Venus and Mars and I think Saturn Dew
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  Speaker 1: Oh god, So maybe that's why it happened. But so
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  Speaker 1: we are re recording this for your listening and you're
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  Speaker 2: Back in the day when we used to record this ship.
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  Speaker 2: Sometimes she would make me re record whole episodes because
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  Speaker 2: she thought we would be better on the second take.
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  Speaker 2: Wasn't I write though, we'd be here for like two
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  Speaker 2: three fucking hours?
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  Speaker 1: Sometimes Yeah, well I didn't. I thought we did great.
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  Speaker 1: I know we did great episodes. But like, hopefully we
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  Speaker 1: can redo the Magic Fish. It's anything, absolutely not, it's canceled. Yes, okay,
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  Speaker 1: so we are here to talk sister wives, honey. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we are currently recapping a rewind season, specifically season six.
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  Speaker 1: It is the season of the My Sister Wives Closet.
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  Speaker 1: It is a season of a bunch of kids going
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  Speaker 1: de Sac, the Wetbar, Juicy and funding the loan. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: We are on episode three of Sister Wives. This episode
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  Speaker 1: entitled big Boy Pennies, Big Boy panties because Cody's got
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  Speaker 1: to put them big boy panties on if he wants this.
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  Speaker 1: My Sister Wives closets work, he do.
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  Speaker 2: So.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know about you what, but I am currently
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  Speaker 1: envisioning Cody and panties.
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  Speaker 2: Like Little Lacey Victoriously. Yes, not like briefs or anything
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  Speaker 2: that like women's under that.
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  Speaker 1: Dude would wear like women's underwear. My god, maybe he
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  Speaker 1: looks great.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe that's where all of Robin Brown's Victoria's secret money.
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  Speaker 1: Well, oh my gosh, two and two equals four. That
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  Speaker 1: makes perfect sense. All right, let's get into us all right.
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  Speaker 2: Well, we start off strong with a Mormon meeting at
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  Speaker 2: Mary's house talking about my sister wives closet and their
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  Speaker 2: absolute failure. Who of an expo in Saint George, Utah.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I mean they were disadvantaged, Beatrice, because in case
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  Speaker 1: you forgot Sat George has a history with Mormons and stuff,
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  Speaker 1: because it's right there in Utah. Yeah, you have some
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  Speaker 1: of them polygamous in the city or whatever, and you
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  Speaker 1: have people who are against polygamy. So the Browns were
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  Speaker 1: disadvantaged when they were going to Saint George. Yeah, but
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  Speaker 1: a different expo might be better. Yeah, it might be
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  Speaker 1: a complete success.
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  Speaker 2: Like a Christmas bazaar in Las Vegas, which they go
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  Speaker 2: to later, which will talk about later. But in this
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  Speaker 2: Mormon meeting with Mary or at Mary's house, sorry, Christine
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  Speaker 2: says to Robin, you know what, I realized that I
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  Speaker 2: actually don't want a job and I don't want to
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  Speaker 2: work in real estate, and I would love to invest
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  Speaker 2: more time in my sister's closet. And Robin's like yay, okay,
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  Speaker 2: my favorite sister wife gets to join in.
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  Speaker 1: Which equals Cody must have had a sit down conversation
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  Speaker 1: with Christine where he told her you better get shited together.
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  Speaker 1: This is Robin's dream. This is a dream that was
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  Speaker 1: inspired by God himself. Yeah, and so you need to
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  Speaker 1: get in here, pull your weight back and help Robin
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  Speaker 1: so that she can help this family succeed.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, totally.
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  Speaker 1: So Christine's like, okay, sure, I'm willing to help.
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  Speaker 2: Well, and she does come up with a pretty good
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  Speaker 2: idea of making T shirts right with their Sister Wives
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  Speaker 2: logo on there.
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  Speaker 1: Which we have discussed over for weeks at this point,
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  Speaker 1: not having known. I personally did not know that Christine
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  Speaker 1: was going to come up with this idea. This was
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  Speaker 1: our idea because we're not stupid people, and we see
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  Speaker 1: the landscape out there, and you can make merch. We
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  Speaker 1: should totally make merch.
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  Speaker 2: We should want I've been making merching. Well, we're not
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  Speaker 2: We're not producing.
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  Speaker 1: If we were one of the Sister Wives, if I
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  Speaker 1: was on a show on TLC, do you know how
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  Speaker 1: much merch I would be producing and selling. So Christine
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  Speaker 1: has this brilliant idea, like, let's just do something. Shirts
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  Speaker 1: cost not like a whole lot of overhead. Let's do
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  Speaker 1: some T shirts, yea, And Cody turns to her on
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  Speaker 1: that couch and says, I don't want to sully our
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  Speaker 1: brand with some frumpy clothing.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. And Janelle even says the same thing. She's like, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if our logo is ready for sale,
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  Speaker 2: but what about an apron with.
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  Speaker 1: Our logo on? With our logo as it is right now?
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  Speaker 2: And Cody's like, that's a great idea. An apron would
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  Speaker 2: be perfect for my sister R's closet. I'm like, you
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  Speaker 2: guys are so fucking stupid. It's literally the name in
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  Speaker 2: the name. It's a closet. What's in a closet? Clothes, yeah, aprons? Right,
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  Speaker 2: jewelry yeah, not jewelry no.
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  Speaker 1: But and here's the problem, Like, you guys are starting
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  Speaker 1: this business and there's no cohesive through line with your products,
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  Speaker 1: Like is it jewelry? Is it cooking stuff? Is it aprons?
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  Speaker 1: Is it T shirts? Is it key chains? Is it
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  Speaker 1: truck or hat?
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  Speaker 2: What are you guys doing?
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't make any sense.
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  Speaker 2: None of it makes any sense. And then when we
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  Speaker 2: go to the expo and we see the prices of
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  Speaker 2: their shit, that really doesn't make any sense.
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  Speaker 1: No, it does not.
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  Speaker 2: But Cody calls Christine's idea of T shirts frumpy, meaning
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  Speaker 2: he's also calling Christine frumpy.
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  Speaker 1: I honestly, I think that's what it is. Yeah, because
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  Speaker 1: T shirts are not inherently frumpy. No, everybody wears T
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  Speaker 1: shirts absolutely. Yeah, So I just feel like that was
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  Speaker 1: an insult directed at her.
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  Speaker 2: And you notice Robin laughs at that a little bit
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  Speaker 2: because it's probably Robin telling Cody, yeah, you know, Christine's
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  Speaker 2: fucking fat and frumpy. She's probably saying that about all
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  Speaker 2: of the wife Absolutely.
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  Speaker 1: Do they have stretch marks? Yeah, because I know you
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  Speaker 1: don't like stress.
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  Speaker 2: I don't have stretch marks. Come fuck this break dancing
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  Speaker 2: Pussie seriously, Oh my god, it's so ridiculous.
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  Speaker 1: So on the couch, Christine's like, Okay, well, I wasn't
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  Speaker 1: like trying to sell frumpy T shirts frumpy skirts. I
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  Speaker 1: was wanting the T shirts to be cool. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know what you were thinking. I was saying, yeah, but like,
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  Speaker 1: thanks for just shitting all over me for absolutely no
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  Speaker 1: reason when I'm trying to contribute. Honorry about it.
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  Speaker 2: And it sounded like that was the first time Cody
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  Speaker 2: ever like said that comment to her, and he says
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  Speaker 2: it on TV on the couch in front of everybody,
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  Speaker 2: like how embarrassing is that? And then Christine's like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: but Cody, you're like not marketing to everybody. You're only
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  Speaker 2: marketing to a specific audience. And Cody's like, no, we
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  Speaker 2: are marketing to everybody with our boss Ac jewelry.
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  Speaker 1: But they're not. And when we get the X to
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  Speaker 1: the expo, I know that you looked at the prices,
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  Speaker 1: because we already recorded this and I learned it. Then, well,
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  Speaker 1: you looked at the prices, and the prices are way
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  Speaker 1: too high, way too high. And when you look at
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  Speaker 1: the demographic of your audience, you're talking about regular, regular
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  Speaker 1: people just watching something on TLC on a Sunday night.
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  Speaker 1: We don't have four hundred dollars to buy an sw
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  Speaker 1: terrible looking necklace.
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  Speaker 2: Why would I ever spend my money on that?
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  Speaker 1: But Cody wants to have a luxury brand. Yep, he
• 10:34
  Speaker 1: wants sister wives, but like rich sister wives.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, of course. I mean you look at Cody and
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  Speaker 2: how he dresses and the big ass houses and now
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  Speaker 2: he's got this two point one million dollar mansion and
• 10:46
  Speaker 2: he's got this stupid Lexus sports car. Like he's got
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  Speaker 2: the watches, yeah, the art work. He's obsessed with looking
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  Speaker 2: with money, and so he thinks that's what other people
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  Speaker 2: want as well. Yeh, but no, I'm watching your show.
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  Speaker 2: I'd like a key chain, Yeah, I would like a cup,
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  Speaker 2: a T shirt or a book. Yeah. Like simple shit,
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  Speaker 2: We're simple people watching this simple show.
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  Speaker 1: And you ain't rich.
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  Speaker 2: You ain't. The housewives, no, you ain't.
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  Speaker 1: Cives are also not rich though.
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  Speaker 2: No they're not, And they're not also selling a bunch
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  Speaker 2: of really expensive jewelry. They're selling like sparkling water and
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  Speaker 2: also T shirts and stuff, like they know their audience.
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  Speaker 2: Cody's stupid.
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  Speaker 1: They're all stupid. Yeah, and this is my higher point.
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  Speaker 1: Like they don't have actual business acumen, they don't have
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  Speaker 1: a brand identity, they don't understand what the heck that
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  Speaker 1: they're doing. No, Honestly, I think Robin just feels divinely
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  Speaker 1: inspired to go out and start this business. I think
• 11:42
  Speaker 1: she trusts and has faith that Mormon God on Kolab
• 11:47
  Speaker 1: is going to bless their business and she's going to
• 11:48
  Speaker 1: be able to fund the entire family. Like she believes this.
• 11:52
  Speaker 1: I believe she believes this. Yeah, that's how I know
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  Speaker 1: this woman is stupid.
• 11:58
  Speaker 2: She is so stupid, and why would god less demons indeed,
• 12:02
  Speaker 2: I mean honestly hashtag facts. And then we shift gears
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  Speaker 2: a little bit and we go to Janelle, who is
• 12:09
  Speaker 2: going to get away in again with her personal trainer,
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  Speaker 2: but she brings her scale with her to the gym
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  Speaker 2: because she is, what she says, addicted to the scale,
• 12:19
  Speaker 2: addicted to the numbers. She feels like whenever she steps
• 12:22
  Speaker 2: on the scale, she's holding herself accountable, so she's not overeating.
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  Speaker 2: But at the same time, every time she's been stepping
• 12:28
  Speaker 2: on the scale for the last month or so, the
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  Speaker 2: numbers haven't been not moving at all. So she breaks
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  Speaker 2: her scale, and her personal trainer is like, yeah, cool,
• 12:37
  Speaker 2: let's go to the parking lot and I have this
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  Speaker 2: sledgehammer and let's beat the shit out of and destroy
• 12:41
  Speaker 2: your scale because you're too addicted to it and you
• 12:43
  Speaker 2: need to stop relying on this tool because you're losing weight.
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  Speaker 2: You are right doing the hard work, so stop caring
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  Speaker 2: about the scale.
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  Speaker 1: And I can see his point. And if she is
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  Speaker 1: super fixated on the numbers to the detriment of the process,
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  Speaker 1: well then yes, a scale is not useful. But the
• 13:05
  Speaker 1: way that Janelle was talking about the scale, it was
• 13:09
  Speaker 1: around awareness and like needing to just be aware of
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  Speaker 1: where she was in terms of her weight, because if
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  Speaker 1: she didn't weigh herself, then her weight may get away
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  Speaker 1: from her. Because if you recall, and I don't know
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  Speaker 1: if you do, but I do, that first season or
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  Speaker 1: second season when they were trying to all get in
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  Speaker 1: shape while Robin was pregnant and didn't have to work out,
• 13:29
  Speaker 1: but she could sit back there and judge everybody. We
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  Speaker 1: got Janelle getting on the scale and being I think
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  Speaker 1: two hundred and seventy six or seventy three pounds or
• 13:37
  Speaker 1: whatever it was. But like she did look shocked, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that the number was that high, And it does seem
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  Speaker 1: that maybe because she wasn't weighing herself, maybe her weight
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  Speaker 1: got away from her. So now at this point, she's
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  Speaker 1: using the scale so she can at least have some
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  Speaker 1: control over what's happening with her own body. And like,
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  Speaker 1: I can appreciate that. I think think that I personally
• 14:02
  Speaker 1: wasn't convinced that she was addicted or had a problem
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  Speaker 1: to it. I just felt like she was using it,
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  Speaker 1: Like you said, as a tool or a resource to
• 14:10
  Speaker 1: track where she was going. But the hard truth about
• 14:12
  Speaker 1: dieting is that you often hit plateaus and sometimes you
• 14:17
  Speaker 1: work really really hard. But like muscle weighs more than fat,
• 14:20
  Speaker 1: so you're losing fat. And Janelle does look smaller.
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  Speaker 2: She does.
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  Speaker 1: She actually looks really good, and so she's clearly making progress.
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  Speaker 1: But because it's not showing up in the number on
• 14:29
  Speaker 1: the scale, she's like getting down about it.
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  Speaker 2: Well, and that's like the hard thing with a scales,
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  Speaker 2: Like it's kind of a double edged sword. Like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it can be a helpful tool and weight loss, and
• 14:41
  Speaker 2: like if you have a healthy mindset with it, and
• 14:43
  Speaker 2: if you have a healthy mindset with food in general,
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  Speaker 2: it can be really great. But it can also be
• 14:47
  Speaker 2: really toxic and it can promote eating disorders. It can
• 14:50
  Speaker 2: be a really shitty thing and really demoralizing when you're
• 14:53
  Speaker 2: trying to lose weight and exercise and all the shit,
• 14:56
  Speaker 2: and you're like, oh my god, I'm doing all of
• 14:58
  Speaker 2: the hard work, I'm counting my calories myself, and my
• 15:01
  Speaker 2: scale is not moving an inch. But she also brings
• 15:06
  Speaker 2: her fat pants, and she brings she brings a pair
• 15:09
  Speaker 2: of pants like when she first started, and she tries
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: them on at the gym after she completely destroyed her
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  Speaker 2: scale and realized how cathartic that was. Now it actually
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: felt really good to break stuff. And she wears her
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: pants and she realizes, like, holy shit, I've lost a
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  Speaker 2: lot of weight, Like she can put two fists in
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  Speaker 2: her pants and still have room, Like she lost a
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: lot off her waistline, which is great, and so like
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: that's a really good reference to keep during your weight
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  Speaker 2: loss journey. Like as long as you're not fitting back
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  Speaker 2: into those pants, like you're doing good, you don't need
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: to worry about the scale. And that's like the point
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: of her personal trainer saying that to her, like don't
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: worry about it, like you're doing great, sweaty sure, and
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  Speaker 2: she is.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I mean I guarantee you. She left from
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: the gym and she went to the walmartrow she bought
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: another scale. Yeah, probably because she uses the scale for
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: her progress. Sure, And I can appreciate that personally.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. And then we have the whole family
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: going to check out the homes and the cold sack
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: and right build up. Yep, they have walls up now
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  Speaker 2: and they've got floors and Mary's got her wet bar.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god, and she's so happy. She's so excited
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: about this basic af wet bar so ugly. I'm like,
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: it's so ug okay, but if it makes you happy,
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: that's fantastic. But like, I just yeah, I'm just like
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: looking at the taste level. But she's very happy with that.
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: But when they get to Janelle's house, apparently the builder
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: has tiled through the living room and down the hallway
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: where it was supposed to be carpet, and Janelle is
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: not quite sure whether she likes it or not. Although
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: it is a more expensive option to have tile, and
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: if it was a mistake, I would imagine that the
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: builder would not make Janelle pay for it. Yeah, So
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: Janelle's trying to determine whether she wants it or whether
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: she doesn't. And this is when we have Mona, who
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: is the realtor who's been helping them broke her this steal.
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: Mona is there with them looking at the homes, and
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: so she picks up her phone to call the builder
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: to find out whether this was a mistake or not.
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: And I thought it was really interesting because Cody on
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: the couch is like, yeah, Mona does not let us
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: talk to the builder anymore, wonder because if you recall
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: last week, Mona's like, how many times have you guys
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: been going there? And Mary's like, I don't know, like
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: forty times already because they've got a scrap book and
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: I've got to be there over and of every single
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: take pictures from a scrap book, and also probably look
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: at all the details and talk to all the workers
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: and the builders. So Mary's been delaying the process. Robin
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: has been delaying the process also, Cody, And so Mona
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: is now saying only I can talk to the builder. Well,
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: she talks to the builder and it does turn out
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: that the tile in the hallway was a mistake.
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: And this is where we have this scene where Mary
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: very imperiously turns to Mona and says, well, yeah, it
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: is a mistake.
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: My god, chill out, Capricorn.
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: I'm like calmed down. First of all, it's not your house. Uh,
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: it's Janelle's house.
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: Second, like, where are you getting this attitude from?
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: Is this so snooty?
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: A snapshot of maybe how she spoke to Janelle and
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: Christine when they become became wives and probably entered the family.
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: I was like ew super critical, like shut up, very
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: scarier yep. And then we find out later in the
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: season that she's the one that's delayed and can't get
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: into her house before Christmas, even though her kid's the
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: only one that wants to be Like Leon literally told her,
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: I don't want anything for Christmas except to be in
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: the house. And then Mary probably was so critical in
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: her house. If she's like this speaking like this about
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: Janelle's house, who she doesn't even have to live with,
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: imagine how bad she is in her own house. Actually,
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: I wanted the blinds to look like this, and actually
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: there was supposed to be crom molding every here, and.
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: Actually you know she's been doing that. Yes, And so
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: she's going to be the wife who doesn't get to
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: be in her house on Christmas. And I'm just like
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: cry hard or berrious. I love to see it.
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: I can't wait to see her sob about it because
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: it's all her own fault.
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: And then after the homes, then we get into the
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: college discussions with mkelty and Aspen and Leon.
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: Yes, apparently Aspen is just fine to go to UNLV
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: where Logan is currently attending. University. McKelty is still in
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: high school. She's sixteen years old, but she's been I
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: guess accepted to the College of Southern Nevada on some
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: sort of high school college program where she can go
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: to high school but get college credits and maybe even
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: her associate's degrees, but then she can jet off to
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: New York, honey, so she can go to the Fashion
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: Institute of Something something Design and Manufacturing at forty thousand
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: dollars a year, Christine cannot afford, but she wants to
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: be a fashion designer, which is great. And then we
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: have Leon, who wants to go to Westminster College in
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: Utah because it is close to Leon's friends and family,
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: and of course Leon wants to continue in the polygamist lifestyle.
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Leon wants to live plural marriage. And Leon wants
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: to be a pediatrician, which is just really funny because
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: I wonder if Leon watches these older seasons and it
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: just cringes at themselves, because I would, because that's so embarrassing.
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: Like when I was Leon's age, I was like, I'm
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: gonna be a neuroscientist. I mean, I get my PhD.
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: And then I got my associate's deree and everyone back
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: like this shit, I don't want to be in school
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: for seventeen thousand years and have to work on brains
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: and stuff.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: No thanks, and take out like all those student loans
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: probably oh my god, which actually becomes kind of an
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: issue that we get into within this episode. But Mary
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: and Cody travel with Leon up to Lehigh and take
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: Leon to Westminster. We have the scene where they all
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: meet with the director of admissions, and the first thing
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: Cody says out of his dumb mouth is you do
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: understand there were polygamous, right, We're very persecuted. We're fundamentalist Mormons.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: You've heard of it, haven't you?
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Is that okay?
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: The Ladi's like, uh yeah, I live in the heart
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: of Utah. Yeah, I'm absolutely familiar with fundamentalist Mormons. Thinks
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: it's no problem. We're diverse.
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, diversity either as straight. It's great. Cody's like, okay, go,
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: I want to make sure. Yeah, but it's just.
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: Like another opportunity, just like he took the opportunity last
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: week with the dude who was repelling down a rock,
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: just to tell them that they were polygamous. Like every
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: single opportunity he has to talk about it, he takes it.
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: And he always frames himself as persecuted in some kind
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: of a marner, and it's just so exhausting because it's
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: clear that he needs this to be his identity so
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: that he can continue to have a show on TLC
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: to keep people interested. And I'm bored.
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: I am so bored. I'm so bored. And then after
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: the college dour Leon, Mary and Cody go and visit
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: the old Lehigh House because apparently they still fucking own it.
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: Like, I don't know why, wild right, yeah, I don't.
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: I didn't. I didn't realize this. I thought they got
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: rid of it. They've been in Vegas for over two
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: years at this point, Like why are you keeping this place?
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: Let me remind you. Janelle tells us like after the
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: first year after they relocated to Las Vegas, like she
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: was worried about feeding her own kids, she was worried
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: about how they were going to pay the bills. And
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: of course it's Janelle who does all the numbers and
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: all of the record keeping, and so this shit was
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: keeping her up at night. And you're telling me they
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: had the Lehigh House the entire time, this entire time. Now,
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: I do remember that I think family members were living
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: in the Lehigh House at some point after they left,
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: and so maybe they were renting it out and making
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: some income in that way. But after returning to the
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: Lehigh House with Leon and walking through the home, they
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: all agree that they don't feel a connection to it
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: anymore and maybe it's time to sell it.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: This whole thing felt very performative to me because Cody
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: and Mary are like, yeah, that was like a big
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: reason why we kept the Lehigh House was so that
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: way Leon could live here going to college, because I
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: guess Leon had expressed previously that they wanted to live
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: in the Lehigh House during college. But then once they're
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: there and they smell the musty smells and realize that
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: it doesn't smell like their family anymore. When does the
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: family smell like?
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: I'm concerned bo sex smells, polygamous sex fumes.
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: Oh that's so nasty.
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: And Christine's cooking in the basement, the fish fry and
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: the sex. I cannot smell the fish fry and the
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: sex fumes. I don't want to be here anymore.
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: It doesn't feel like dors I have a typical college
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: experien And Cody's like, yeah, but okay, then we're going
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: to sell the house, and it just feels like they're
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: doing this because they actually do need to sell the
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: house so that way they qualify for the loans in
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: the cul de Sac Holmes.
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: That's my opinion, right, and that makes sense. Yeah, I'm
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: just thinking about the money though, because apparently Westminster is
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: a very expensive college. Yeah, and now Leon wants to
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: live in the dorms and that's going to cost them
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: even more money. And there's a lot of talk in
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: this episode about scholarships and the kids need to get
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: scholarships because the parents cannot pay for this all on
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: their own. And then we kind of fast forward to
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: season nineteen, like just a couple few weeks ago. We've
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: got Mary talking to us telling us that it was
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: her that actually paid for Leon to go to Westminster.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: And Leon then goes to Loyola for Leon's masters and
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: it was Mary that paid for that as well. So
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: I'm not sure if Leon got scholarships. I imagine so,
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: because they come off as quite intelligent. I don't know. Yeah,
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: but like Mary was the one who ended up paying
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: for all of that. And let me tell you, having
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: lived in Chicago, yeah for fifteen years and knowing about
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: a lot of these universities because I had step kias
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: Loyola's expensive, it's prestigious, it's very nice, and so that
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: was a pretty penny to be sure.
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's what makes me wonder. I'm like, did
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: Mary keep all of the student loans in her name?
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: Does Leon got any student loans in their name? Do
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: they even have any debt? Were they so spoiled that
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: their mom just got to pay for all of that
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: shit and they didn't have to deal with any of
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: the repercussions Because I don't know. Leon kind of strikes
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: me as spoiled and all.
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: Of these episode very much so. And let me remind
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: you that Mary has taken out three loans for the
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: Haunted B and B, the most recent loans sometime in
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. So maybe if she's rolling in like
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: student loans or like paying for university, like maybe some
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: of that makes sense. It's just the incredible burden that
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: Mary ended up having to bear. And they kind of
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: talk in this episode about how the family pools the
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: money to send the children to school, and like, it
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: doesn't matter what kid it is, they're all gonna have
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: the same opportunity, but I feel like it didn't end
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: up being that way. No, because for some reason, I
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: feel like Robin's current college age kids are getting a
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: full ride on Cody and Robbin's dime.
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: Oh totally yeah. And I'm sure that like Logan had
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: to pay his way through college. I mean, he's working
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: at UNLV in the admissions center and everything, so I'm
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: sure he's paying his own way. Maybe all the loans
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: are in his name, same thing with Aspen, same thing
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: with Michel te Leon. Maybe took the loans out in
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: their name, but maybe it's all Mary because Mary spoils
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: the fuck out of Leon. But Robin's kids they never
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: had to know real struggle.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: Now probably not probably.
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: Not, No, no way. And then after the whole college tours,
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: and we have Aspen going to UNLV and Logan gives
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: the tour around the college, and this is where Aspen
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: makes some comment of like, you know, I feel like
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: Logan took the whole leaving the nest thing way to
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: the extreme and now he just like never comes around anymore,
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: and like he just forgot about all of his responsibilities
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: at home. He just took it to the extreme.
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: Well, the first time we recorded this, you said that
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: you were actually like pretty disappointed and Aspen for saying that,
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: and you felt it was a shitty comment. And I said,
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: and I will say again that when you think about
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: the fact that Aspen at this point, like right before
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: she goes off to university, she's completely a part of
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: the borg. Yeah, she's completely a part of the Brown matrix,
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: and she only sees through the filter and the perception
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: of their polygamist, weird ass family. You know, years later,
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: when she's married to Mitch and she's living in Salt
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: Lake City and her brain is fully formed, she can
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: get back and absolutely recognize the fact that Logan was
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: parentified and she was parentified, and she's probably old enough
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: and intelligent enough to know now that that is a
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: form of abuse. Yeah, And so she does not blame
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: Logan and actually loved hearing Logan talk about this because Logan,
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: according to him, he says, he actually gets back to
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: the family like once or twice a month, every two
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: weeks or whatever, and that's enough, Like he wants to
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: be able to be separate enough so that he can grow.
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: He's not worrying about whether he wants to be a
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: fucking polygamist. He's not worried about whether he even wants
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: to be a Mormon. He's just trying to be here now,
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: experience this new experience for himself without like the pressure
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: of having to be responsible for thirteen other children. Like
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: Logan gets it. I know Logan knows, and he Logan
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: has been preparing for quite some time to detach from
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: these people.
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: And it's really awesome, Like he's saying all of this
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: at eighteen, Like when I finally left my house at twenty,
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: I felt so much guilt because I was parentified my
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: entire fucking childhood and teens. So when I left and
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: I'm like being my own adult, I'm like, man, should
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: I go back? Should I go back? And like help
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: my sister who's an adult now, like she could leave too.
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: I felt really bad. So Logan just being like I
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: come around enough. You guys see me every few weeks,
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: like I'm just spread my wings. I've got my walls up,
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: like I'm learning to fly, bitch, lay me up out.
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: We love that for him, but like then we get
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: to Cody, and Cody actually speaks to camera and says
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: something like I really miss Logan. We used to have
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: a lot of deep conversations. We used to spend a
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: lot of time talking and now we just don't do
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: that anymore. And Cody actually says that Logan has walls up,
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: and Christine, who's sitting next to him on the couch,
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: agrees and says, yeah, like he's got walls up now,
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: Like that's a boundary.
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: This boy is creating and enforcing boundaries, and this is
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: what we love to see.
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: And this is all just also just like a natural
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: part of growing up, like when you leave the nest,
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: like you're trying to figure your shit out, and so, yeah,
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: you have some boundaries with your parents because you're trying
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: to separate. That's like a natural progression of life. And
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: so I'm like I don't care, Cody, like crime your river,
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: because at this point in time in twenty twenty five, I'm.
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: Like, you don't even talk to a Logan, don't even.
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: Talk to any of these kids, and you wonder why
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: they all hate you.
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't give a shit, like, so fuck off.
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: Yep, literally agreed, And then we get to the best
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: part of the episode where the family goes to another expo. Yeah,
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: in Las Vegas. It's a Christmas Bazaar, and they're bringing
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: all of their shitty ass, expensive, ass ugly ass jewelry
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: to this expo and they're hoping it's going to be
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: more successful than the one in Saint George.
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: So let me just set this up for everybody, Okay,
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: because I did talk about it a little bit, But again,
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: the Saint George Expo was around a bunch of judgmental
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: Mormons who hated polygamus And so this is why they
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: think the Browns think they didn't sell any jewelry in
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: Saint George. It's because nobody liked them. They all thought
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: they were awful, culty, terrible people. And so we're gonna
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: go to Vegas now for the Christmas Expo, and Las
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: Vegas is tolerant. Nobody gives a shit if we're polygamous.
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: So they are expecting to sell a lot more than nineteen,
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: which is what they sold in Saint George. Well guess
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: how much they sold in Las Vegas.
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: Eighteen?
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: It was eighteen. Well it ended up being nineteen because
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: she miscounted, but it was like the exact, which again
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: you'd think would cause you to stop hammer time and like,
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: look at your product, look at your pricing and see,
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: well where the problem is because it's not actually geography,
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: it's you, bitch. Yeah, it's the shit that you're designing, bitch,
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: that's the problem. But I'm fast forwarding. Let's stay in
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: the expo for a moment. Yeah, if they get to
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: the expo, they lay everything out and Robin is willy nervous. Yeah,
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: she's just waiting for that first sale because once that
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: first sale comes, I'll feels so much better and then
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: we'll start selling and selling and selling and selling well.
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: And she does say this was their fastest cell ever
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: at an expo because they sold something within thirty minutes
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: or something like that. And she's like, that is a meath.
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: That means we're successful. But listen when they were at
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: this expo and the camera crew is zooming in on
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: all of their ugly, shitty jewelry designs. They zoomed in
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: on some of those price tags, and I was pausing
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: every second I could so I could figure out how
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: much they were selling some shit. They had one piece
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: that was called like Friends Forever or something, and it
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: was like a necklace two hundred and twenty two dollars
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: two hundred and twenty two dollars for a necklace.
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: I am so glad you did that, because I was
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: wondering last week, like I didn't know what the price
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: range was, like what are the lower cost items? What
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: are the higher cost items? But you said, like you
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: paused it on the price sheet, and the lowest cost
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: item was.
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: What they had like a list of all their items
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: and all of their collections and how much it was.
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: And I paused it and it was kind of blurry,
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: but I could make out some of it, and like
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: the lowest priced one that I could see there was
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: like seventy dollars. Seventy dollars for like probably one of
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: their like little bands of rings or something, which.
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: They probably paid a manufacturer to make for maybe five
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: dollars or ten dollars or at the most twenty dollars.
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: But like the markup that they're putting on this awful
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: jewelry is wild. It's fantastic, and just can I give
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: you some perspective please and sidebar, So I used to
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: have like retreats and things that I would do, and
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: I would have a bunch of merch that I would
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: take and that I would sell. And when I tell you,
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: like what I sold I sold necklaces. I sold crystal necklaces.
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: Well that they were crystals.
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: Oh, they were crystals. I sourced them very specifically. There
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: was a whole lot that went into it. They were
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: so beautiful. I've given you a couple of these second
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: gorgeous and I would set them out on a table
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: in the conference room and I wasn't even finished announcing
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: them and people were getting up out of the seats
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: and going there and picking their crystal. I was still
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: talking about them, and they were almost all gone because
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: they were beautiful, because they were priced right, and because
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: they were special, and plus I knew my audience. I
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: knew who was in the audience and what they wanted.
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So this is kind.
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: Of what I'm talking about, is just like the disconnect
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: that exists. They're trying to create products for an audience
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: that they don't understand. The products themselves are but ugly
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: and then they're super overpriced, like so crazy.
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: And there's no gemstones in any of the designs at all,
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: Like they're just really shitty, cheap silver and like crazy
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: designs like sw that looks like something you would buy
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: at fucking clears for your eight year old dog.
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: Like the font of the s W neil is like
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: a Disneyland like a literally a Mickey Mouse font. Yeah,
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: super fat, ugly font. I'm like, first of all, why
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: am I buying a necklace that says s W Unless
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: my name is Sarah Wallace. I'm not going to buy
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: something that says sister wives when I am not a
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: sister wife. And most of your audience were not polygamous.
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: We're watching you because you were in, because you have
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: an alternative lifestyle, So I don't want to wear something
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: that makes people think I'm part of that lifestyle. It's
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: what I'm really doing is just watching a show. So
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: create something for me, which would be a T shirt,
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: like Christine said, or a fucking mug, a keychain, a
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: sticker or something like that.
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: Like it doesn't make any sense. And like they even
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: had Klata stuff, which is a symbol of their union yea,
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: their love And I'm not saying that nobody has clautas, Like, yeah,
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: clautas are pretty, they're common and they're common, but like
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: they were marketing it specifically as like their clata like
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: love union and everything, and that was like one hundred
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: and eighty dollars.
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's too expensive, like with the Clata the see
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: that's an idea that would apply to a lot of people. Yeah,
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: but unfortunately the market is probably saturated with Clata rings
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: because we've all heard of this before, right, We've probably
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: if we wanted one, we would have already had it done.
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: So this isn't anything special or anything new. And plus
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: you are charging me way too much money for it.
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: So again, this just hearkens back to the reality that
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: they don't have a mind for business, not at at all.
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: And after the failure of this expo, they returned to
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: Mary's house in the Mormon Conference Taylor table sorry to
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: download once again about how well they did, and Robin
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: seems so proud of herself. Yeah, that they made a
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: profit of seven hundred dollars for five people working all
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: day at an expo. That's not even minimum wage. No,
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: And I don't believe her. Also, Beatrice me neither that
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: was profit.
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: No, because she's like saying that they made seven hundred
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: bucks in profit, and Cody's like, is that minus everything else?
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: And She's like, yeah, I minus that's and I minus that.
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: But then she forgot how many sales that they did, right,
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: she thought it was eighteen. It was actually nineteen. And
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: she's subtracting like the cost of their manufacturing I guess,
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: which is like two dollars, and like the cost of
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: gas to drive up to the expo. Like I don't know,
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: but Janelle is being realistic here and she's listening to
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: this and she's like, you know what, this really isn't
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: worth my time and energy. Like I really have to disengage.
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: I know, I said last episode, just last episode, she
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: just had an epiphany in the last episode that she
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: was going to be.
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: A part of this.
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: But actually just kidding, because after I drove home from
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: this expoe on Friday night, I realized that this is
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: a colossal, fucking failure. It's not gonna make enough money
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: for me to put food on my table. I have
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: to focus on something realistic, like my real estate business.
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: Right. And I want to draw your attention to the
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: energy that Janelle brought into that meeting, because she sat
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: down looking defensive. She sat down looking like she was
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: ready for some kind of a fight. And this further
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: validates for me that the reason Janelle even went to
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: Robin's home in the last episode to tell her I've
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: had an epiphany and I want to help you more.
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: Was because Cody put a battery in her back. She
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: did that because she had a conversation with Cody and
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: Cody said, I really need you to step up, and
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: I really need you to help Robin and get this done.
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: Then they go to the expo in Vegas and so
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: the polygamy thing, the specter of polygamy should not affect it,
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: and Janelle sees it makes absolutely no difference. So she
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: goes to this meeting after that expo, and she's ready
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: to fight with Cody, and she's ready to tell Robin,
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: and she's expecting that fight because she knows Cody is
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: the one who told her to participate. And Cody even
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: says at the table while like you're giving up already, yea,
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: And Janelle's like, no, I'm still gonna do my plus
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: size Holy Mormon underwear line and I still have plans
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: to do all of that shit. But like I got killa, yeah,
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: I got killing. I can't feed my cats, and so
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: what the fuck do you expect me to do? You
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: ain't working for this family.
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: She's coming in full, she's coming in hot.
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, she's coming in.
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: She's ready to fucking fight, and I mean, I'm right
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: there with her. Yeah, why would I waste time going
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: to expo after expo for it to be a fucking
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: failure because our prices are too high and we're selling
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: weird Disney fucking ball sack jewelry right crazy. Yes, But
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: when Janelle says I'm gonna disengage, then Christine pipes up
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: and says, but I'm ready to engage more good news.
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: I'm on board and I'm right here with you, Robin,
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: and I'm gonna be giving you more time and more
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: energy because I'm absolutely unwilling to work as hard as
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: Mona said I would have to work if I wanted
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: to be a real estate agent. I'm not interested in
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: working that hard. So I'll just throw you some of
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: this energy. And Robin smiles and she's like, oh, that's great,
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: but you already know she's like, oh fuck great, I
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: gotta spend more time with Christine. That is not what
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: I wanted, yep. And then on the couch, You've got
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: everybody on the couch, and Christine's like, I just realized
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: I really need to support Robin's dream. This is her dream,
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: and I want to support her. I want to be
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: a good sc wife, which shows me that Christine has
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: also had a conversation with Cody, and probably the reason
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: she's piping up at this meeting is because Cody has
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: told her, like, what the fuck are you doing? Yeah,
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: support Robin. She's trying really hard. She's taking her sketchbook
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: to Starbucks and she's sitting there praying first, and then
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: she's designing these necklaces. So you get your happy ass
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: over Robin's house and you help her, and so now
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: here comes Christine.
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I could see that. I also thought Christine's
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: comment was a little bit passive aggressive to Robin, because
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: up until this point, Robin has been very clear to say,
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: it's not just my dream, it's the family business. I
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: want to do this with my Solsto wives because I
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: think it could be successful for the entire family. It's
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: not just about me, right. But now Christine's like, no, Robin,
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: I'm here to support your dream. I'm here to support
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: you because you know it's all about you.
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: Oh oh wow, that's like three layers down. Yeah, of
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: like subtext, But I mean I wouldn't put it past her.
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: That's what I would do for.
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: Calling Robin out for that, and really this is a
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: vanity project, yeah for Robin. And well, Cody still doesn't
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: seem very interested in this. He still seems very motivated
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: by the bottom line and the profit and the money.
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: Like you can tell he's going out of his way
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: to do what he can to speak for and support Robin.
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: Yep, that's all it's about.
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: And I did want to say that it seems to
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: me that it's around this time and this has got
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: to be like what twenty twelve, twenty eleven, twenty thirteen
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: or something like that. This is around the time that
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: it's really becoming obvious to me that Cody is favoring
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: Robin a lot, trying to speak up for Robin, trying
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: to maneuver the other wives to support Robin. So he's
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: starting to run this campaign and agenda that obviously over
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: time just gets worse and worse and more obvious. But
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: to me, it's it's starting right away now.
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's been going on for a while.
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: I mean, I know he's favorite or he loves her,
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: and he's having great sex and all that. She's probably
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: break dancing in the bedroom, but like he's still in
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: my opinion, he still loved his other wives, he still
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: loved his other families, but we're starting to see him
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: pivot away from that and more coage rob him well.
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: And he keeps making comments about how it's so crazy
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: to work with all of these women, and like, oh god,
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: I'm losing my sanity having to work with all these women.
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: And it's like, but this is the lifestyle you chose, though,
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: you can't pretend to act like a martyr and a
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: victim for this lifestyle that you chose. And then also
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: bitch about, oh my god, my wives. I gotta work
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: with my wife, right, It's like.
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: So, then, don't be a polygamist. I mean, it's not
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: that hard.
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: Just have one wife and it'll be way easier for you.
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: It's still hard, yet easier, exactly. Yeah.
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: And then we get to the preview for next week,
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: which I'm excited about because we see Mary crying, and.
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: You love that, you love when that happened.
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: I love when anyone cries on this show, because they're
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: all so stupid. But Mary's crying because she is disappointing
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: Leon because she's not getting her paperwork turned in on
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: time and her house is probably delayed. We know this
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: already and she doesn't get into the house before Christmas,
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: and now she's got to break the news to Leon
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: because all Leon wanted for Christmas was to get in
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: their house.
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: And can I just say, like, as a parent, one
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: thing I was very mindful of with my child was
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: not to like set her expectations in a way that
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: I could not guarantee that I would satisfy and fulfill them,
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: Like I wouldn't promise her something or like get her
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: hopes up if I knew there was a good chance
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: it wasn't going to work out, Like I might have
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: talked about it and say, hey, like there's a chance
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: this could happen, but like, don't get your hopes up
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: because it cannot control it. That's what I would have done.
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: But it feels like to me like Mary has really
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: oversold getting into the call to sac having her own place,
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: being a family again, and so now that's all Leon wants.
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: And you can't blame Leon for that, but I blame
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: Mary for just being a bad parent around that, yep.
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: And then being so selfish because you are intentionally delaying
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: your house with you all of the additions that you're adding,
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: your stupid bucking weapon.
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: Not getting your paperwork till the last episode, Like, what
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: are you? What is more important Mary than getting your
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: fucking paperwork in, especially if you've promised your child that
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: you were going to be in by Christmas. Don't under
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: I don't understand.
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: It doesn't make any sense, Gotta. And then we have
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: Christine admitting that she wasn't a good sister wife and
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: it's probably like you said, she got a talking to
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: from Cody, and so now she is crying on the
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: couch and saying she wasn't being a good sister wife
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: to Robin. And then we have Robin saying that she
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: wants to have Dayon and Brianna to see the houses
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: when they get finalized before they go to Montana. But
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: she doesn't really say when they're why they're going to Montana,
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: but we know probably that it's to go visit their real.
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: Dad, right by your dad, David Jessup. But she wants
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: the kids to see it before they go. And I
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: don't know if it's gonna happen or not.
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: But I can't wait to see me too.
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: Well, this was fun, even on this second time around.
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: You wouldn't know because you're professionals. Is there anything else
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: that we should be saying to these raccoons before we
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: get a bought out of here at Beaddrice.
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: Well, if you love our podcast, please go to your
• 45:20
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• 45:23
  Speaker 2: Really helps us score the pod so more raccoons can
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: join us in the dumpster. We really appreciate it. Thank you.
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: We will be back tomorrow to talk about your calls
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: in via speak pipe. You all have a lot of
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: opinions and you want to share them and we want
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: to hear them, so you come back for that. We'll
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: also be back next week, of course, to continue the
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: Sister Wives conversation. And until then, please do not forget
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: that we have nothing but love for you, and please,
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: oh my my guys,