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- 0:23Ron DeSantis and Floridians are doing their part to keep teachers' unions in check.
- 0:31We're going to get into it.
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- 0:36Thanks for joining me today, everybody.
- 0:39It's an honor to have you on board.
- 0:40It's a pleasure.
- 0:42I'm happy to have such an active, viable audience.
- 0:45This audience is alive and awake.
- 0:48And I don't know, maybe, maybe because of history class.
- 0:52We're also going to history class today.
- 0:54In addition to discussing what Ron DeSantis is doing on the front to keep teachers' unions in check.
- 1:03It's a history class.
- 1:05And it's a it's a solemn history class.
- 1:10It's a solemn anniversary today.
- 1:12And we're going to get to it right at the onset.
- 1:15Here we go.
- 1:16Strap in your seatbelts, kids, because history class awaits Arlington National Cemetery.
- 1:25That's where we're going today.
- 1:28The first military burial took place in Arlington this day in 1864.
- 1:361864.
- 1:38On May 13th, 1864, Union soldiers buried the remains of 21-year-old Private William Henry Christman.
- 1:49Chrisman was of the 67th Pennsylvania Infantry.
- 1:54He died two days earlier in a Washington, D.C.
- 1:58hospital from complications related to measles.
- 2:03The Civil War was entering its third year, and cemeteries in the Capitol were full.
- 2:10There was no room left.
- 2:11So a private Christman was laid to rest in a new burial ground on the Virginia side of the Potomac, on the edge of an estate once belonging to Confederate General Robert E.
- 2:23Lee.
- 2:24Thus becoming the first soldier interred in what is now Arlington National Cemetery.
- 2:31One month later, the War Department officially designated Lee's estate as a military cemetery.
- 2:40Is it not?
- 2:42I think it is.
- 2:43The section was instigated by quartermaster General Montgomery Meegs, who considered the Confederate general a traitor and wanted to make sure his family could never return to their home.
- 2:57Today, Arlington covers 624 acres and contains more than 300,000 graves.
- 3:07It averages 28 funerals a day, Monday through Friday.
- 3:12Veterans of every conflict since the Revolutionary War are buried in Arlington.
- 3:19Until 1967, all honorably discharged veterans could be buried at Arlington.
- 3:26Since that time, to conserve space, the Army has restricted burials to those who meet certain requirements, such as members of the armed forces who die on active duty or who serve long enough to officially retire.
- 3:41Arlington National Cemetery is home to several famous monuments, including the tomb of the unknown soldier, President John F.
- 3:51Kennedy's grave, and the Lee Mansion.
- 3:54The um the Lee Mansion is maintained by the National Park Service as a memorial to Robert E.
- 4:01Lee.
- 4:02Most striking, however, are the miles of small white stones making the graves of those who served their country.
- 4:10These make the place one of the nation's most revered grounds.
- 4:16Arlington National Cemetery.
- 4:38One in which we fought to end an evil.
- 4:49Fighting to end an evil.
- 5:28Again, it's only for the military.
- 5:32And that this particular cemetery has what's called an avenue of flags.
- 5:37And it is the uh gentleman who was giving us the guide, the tour, stated that that cemetery is one of the few that actually has an avenue of flags wherein the flags stay up.
- 5:52They're not lit, but they they stay up, they don't come down.
- 5:56And they that the cemetery needed special permission from Congress in order for that to happen, because you know if you keep a flag flying 24-7 in the dark, it has to be lit.
- 6:08There's got to be a light on it.
- 6:21While we were there, a funeral was taking place or a committal, as it were.
- 6:29And uh we heard the salute, the 21 gun salute.
- 6:33Uh and then just to hear the silence afterwards.
- 6:38Uh just to feel the awe and the reverence and the respect.
- 6:44The stones there at Great Lakes National Cemetery are beautiful white, and they're in that line just like they are in Arlington.
- 6:53Uh and it's uh it's just a moment.
- 6:57It was just a beautiful moment to be there to listen to that 21 gun salute as an American soldier was laid to rest.
- 7:00Be there to listen to that 21 gun salute as an American soldier was laid to rest.
- 7:09It is it's special.
- 7:09It is it's special.
- 7:10I'm telling you, if you get an opportunity to visit a national cemetery, whether Arlington or Great Lakes or you know, wherever, it's just one of those things that is um it fills you with awe.
- 7:11I'm telling you, if you get an opportunity to visit a national cemetery, whether Arlington or Great Lakes or you know, wherever.
- 7:19It's just one of those things that is it fills you with awe.
- 7:25It fills you with reverence.
- 7:25It fills you with reverence, it fills you with respect.
- 7:27It fills you with respect.
- 7:31Um the solemnness of the moment.
- 7:37I don't know how else to term it.
- 7:40I I don't know how else to describe it, except maybe patriotism.
- 7:45Maybe you're you're you're filled with patriotism.
- 7:50Uh you are certainly one is certainly filled with love for their country.
- 7:56And I think our students need more of that.
- 7:58I think our students need to need to visit these places, and they need to take part in cleaning the stones.
- 8:06And our kids love it.
- 8:07This is this is one of their favorite service projects.
- 8:11We we take a service project every single month, and this is one of their one of their favorite.
- 8:20They often come back and say, This, this is our favorite.
- 8:23We love doing this.
- 8:24And the people there at the cemetery love having us.
- 8:27They matter of fact, he told me, he said, I love it when you guys are on the docket because your kids are they're they're respectful.
- 8:34They they get it, they're honorable, they they understand uh ultimately what's at stake.
- 8:42And and they understand how to how to respect the grounds, how to respect the past, as it were.
- 8:53And I I believe wholeheartedly that this attitude, this attitude of respect and and patriotism, this attitude of love and and this attitude to give honor to the past should be ingrained in our student body.
- 9:12I think it should be ingrained in the population here.
- 9:15I think it should be ingrained in the hearts and minds of young people, instead of telling them that they should protest law enforcement, instead of telling them that they should go out on the streets and get signs and protest emigration laws and immigration officers.
- 9:34The opposite of respect is being ingrained in their hearts and minds.
- 9:40They're we're missing something, we're losing something.
- 9:46We are we are losing uh the memory of something beautiful when our our students are told and encouraged to uh disregard law enforcement, disregard uh in this case, you know, May 1st, they were the focus was immigration laws.
- 10:10Just disregard it.
- 10:11Just get a sign, go out on the street and protest ice.
- 10:15How dare they?
- 10:15How dare they take our neighbors?
- 10:18How dare they come into our schools and and and how dare they do that?
- 10:22How dare they?
- 10:24Uh they're not being number one, they're not being taught our laws.
- 10:30They don't understand them.
- 10:31They're not being taught to revere our laws.
- 10:36The exact opposite holds true.
- 10:38They're they're being taught anarchy.
- 10:41Hey, if you if you don't like it, then you fight it.
- 10:45There's some particular truth in that.
- 10:48If you don't like it, fight it.
- 10:52You know, this is the premise of the revolutionary war.
- 11:00But they're being taught not to like something that is that is important, something that is something that is beautiful.
- 11:14One of the saddest elements of this is that our our teachers' unions are in support of such action.
- 11:21They are in support of such activity.
- 11:24They're they're they're out there on the websites of these organizations that are spearheading these movements and they're they're cheering them on.
- 11:33And that's why we have teachers in the classroom cheering on these movements, cheering on our students to make signs and go out and protest without actually teaching them that they don't understand the law.
- 11:48They don't do they understand the importance of of having a border and having laws that protect the border, having immigration laws.
- 12:00That do they understand the underlying economic purposes behind these laws, the moral purposes behind these laws.
- 12:08I dare say they don't, because those elements aren't being taught.
- 12:15And it would require so much more to it, it would there's got to be an attitude of patriotism when when teaching these laws to young people because patriotism is foundational to it.
- 12:32Uh, but instead, that's not happening.
- 12:37That's not the case.
- 12:39It's there is a um, unfortunately, there is this underlying movement to remove patriotism from the hearts and minds of our student bodies.
- 12:52We talked about this a couple of weeks ago.
- 12:54Linda McMahon uh mentioned this at a at a talk she was giving, a talk she was involved in, where she said on on their 250th tour, she stopped at this public school.
- 13:04And of course, they set up their displays, and part of their displays include the words to the Pledge of Allegiance.
- 13:11And the principal came to her and and just thanked her so much because of she had the words to the pledge on display.
- 13:19And he said, the kids here at this school, they they don't know the pledge because we don't recite it every morning.
- 13:26And unbeknownst to to her at the time, this school had decided to opt out of saying the pledge.
- 13:33I guess you can opt out.
- 13:34You don't have to say it if you don't want to say it.
- 13:37It's not um not a requirement.
- 13:40And so for whatever reason, this school board or administrator, I don't know who made the decision, but they decided that during the morning were normal schools.
- 13:52I say normal.
- 13:53A lot of schools normally are reciting the pledge.
- 13:56It's one of the first things that we do.
- 13:58This particular school chose not to.
- 14:00Chose not to.
- 14:01And the kids didn't know the pledge.
- 14:01And the kids didn't know the pledge.
- 14:03And when Lyndon McMahon says that when the principal got up to invite the kids to stand for the pledge, he told them, no, no, look, I mean, I understand this, you're not pledging your allegiance to any particular flag.
- 14:03And when Lyndon McMahon says that when the principal got up to invite the kids to stand for the pledge, he told them, no, no, look, I mean, I understand this, you're not pledging your allegiance to any particular flag.
- 14:16You're you're pledging your your allegiance to it to a spirit.
- 14:16You you you're you you're pledging your your allegiance to it to a spirit, more to an idea, not to a flag.
- 14:21More to an idea, not to a flag.
- 14:24So really, when you're saying the budget, you can you can consider any any flag that you you can make this.
- 14:24So really, when you're saying the pledge, you can you can consider any any flag that you can make this pledge to any flag you want.
- 14:32And it makes me wonder did the principal even know the pledge because it specifically says that you're pledging your allegiance to the flag of the United States of America.
- 14:43I mean, there's there's no other opportunity to insert any other flag in there.
- 14:47You're not pledging your allegiance to the flag of Ukraine.
- 14:52You're not pledging your allegiance to the flag of Cambodia, China, Mexico.
- 14:58Uh, I don't know.
- 15:00Pick a place that you're not pledging your allegiance to the flag of a state, even you're not pledging your allegiance to the Christian flag or to the what I mean, insert any flag.
- 15:11This pledge is to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, which by the way, is it doesn't say democracy, it just says republic.
- 15:24The pledge is specific, and it's specific for a reason.
- 15:28And we're doing this as because as the pledge recognizes we are one nation under God, that we we believe in the sovereignty of God.
- 15:40We believe in uh in his rule over our lives, over our hearts, over our country.
- 15:48That's what we believe in.
- 15:50That's that's that's what the pledge embodies.
- 15:53Those words embody it.
- 15:56Saying the pledge might be one of the most patriotic acts that a young person can grow up doing.
- 16:04Young people aren't out um, you know, going to war, they're not out uh, you know, doing other things that we might classify as as patriotism.
- 16:15Uh, but they can engage in it by by saying the pledge Pledge of Allegiance to the flag, not flags, flag, singular of the United States of America.
- 16:28That patriotism becomes ingrained in their hearts, in their minds, and they're uh but if they're not given the opportunity to learn it and say it and know it, but instead they're they're given an opportunity to make posters in their classrooms and go out on the streets and protest law enforcement, laws that they don't understand because they've not been taught to revere.
- 16:55They've not been taught uh to reverence those laws, so they don't understand them.
- 17:03They um they're left clueless.
- 17:07Unfortunately, they they are left.
- 17:11What'll change this?
- 17:14Maybe, maybe a place to start is affecting the teachers' unions, perhaps.
- 17:19Perhaps.
- 17:20I don't know.
- 17:21I'm just maybe that they are certainly engaged in and and spearheading this.
- 17:27And so I want I want to dive into this this piece here.
- 17:30Actually, Gifford has two pieces that I that I'd like to pay attention to.
- 17:34This first one is involving uh the Freedom Foundation, and the Freedom Foundation says more than 272,000 teachers have opted out of union membership.
- 17:45That's number one.
- 17:46There's a second piece by Gifford, if if I can get to it, that uh involves a lawsuit, a complaint out of uh Washington, the state of Washington, where uh the NEA, the nation's largest teachers union, has uh been the the allegation is that the NEA has been uh conducting uh or engaging in activity that's um laced in anti-Semitism.
- 18:18And uh if if that's true, if the allegations are are true, then uh it is another, just another, another of many black marks pasted on to the teachers' unions.
- 18:32All right, uh, I'm gonna get into both of these articles on the other side of this break.
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- 22:01It's titled More States ENAT New Laws Curbing Teachers Unions.
- 22:06Now, why do you think the states would want to curb teachers' unions?
- 22:10Well, really?
- 22:11I mean, this is why why do this?
- 22:15New organized labor reforms signed into law by DeSantis last week, Gifford says, require a majority of members to be present for teachers' union certification or recertification votes.
- 22:33The measure increases fines for illegal strikes and it establishes merit-based pay for educators.
- 22:41Ah, kid, can you believe that?
- 22:44We would actually pay based on merit, not ideology.
- 22:49In Idaho, after July 1st, teachers' unions will be prohibited from collecting dues directly from members' paychecks.
- 22:57Using paid time off for union activities or recruiting new members during school hours.
- 23:06Similar law in Arizona, which also bans teacher strikes and prohibits organized labor members from using any school property, even email addresses for union activities, will be decided on by voters in the November election.
- 23:21Let's go.
- 23:22Let's let's put it, let's put it to a vote.
- 23:27Rusty Brown is the special projects director for the Freedom Foundation.
- 23:32Freedom Foundation is a policy organization that assisted state legislators with these measures, and it also helps teachers opt out of union membership.
- 23:45Rusty Brown said that they can't consume taxpayer funded resources during the school day no longer.
- 23:51I mean, this has been they've been double dipping for a long time.
- 23:56But we're gonna we're gonna put an end to it.
- 23:59We're gonna we're gonna put a stop to it.
- 24:02These ideas are expected to gain ground throughout the nation in the months and years ahead.
- 24:08Brown told Gifford individually, the Freedom Foundation has so far helped more than 272,000 teachers in both red and blue states opt out of the membership of teachers unions, including more than 50,000 members in 2025 alone.
- 24:30Uh 50 50,000 in 2025 at the state level.
- 24:38Oklahoma lawmakers have advanced legislation that would allow teachers to withdraw from a union at any time and would terminate closed shop provisions that prevent teachers from accessing alternative labor or professional organizations, such as the Teacher Freedom Alliance.
- 25:02Bump bum bum.
- 25:07Brown here calls this bill uh equal access and an end to a monopoly and captive audience.
- 25:17Alternative organizations can offer teacher liability insurance.
- 25:23They can offer other benefits at a fraction of the price that traditional unions charge, according to Brown.
- 25:31Uh, he said that he believes the legislation could pass before Oklahoma's session ends later this month, but the member withdrawal proposal probably won't go through this session.
- 25:44Meanwhile, Alabama state lawmakers will consider legislation similar to Oklahoma's in their next session.
- 25:53Uh Max Ford Nelson is the Freedom Foundation's director of research in government affairs.
- 26:01Nelson said several factors prompted growing interest and pushing back against teachers' unions.
- 26:08Members don't like that the dudes are automatically deducted from their paychecks.
- 26:17There's this increasing animosity toward what he calls zombie unions, in which a limited number of members are informed or allowed to vote on matters, and labor organizations engage in practices that create very narrow windows and bureaucratic hurdles for terminating membership.
- 26:37I think this might play into this um complaint out of out of Washington, which we'll, you know, we'll get into here.
- 26:52Nelson told Gifford, citing one union's rules limiting opt-outs to the last 10 days of July.
- 27:01I mean, can you I mean, think about it?
- 27:03You only allowed to opt out during the last 10 days of July.
- 27:09What?
- 27:09What?
- 27:10Well, what's the purpose behind that?
- 27:11Why can't you opt out whenever you want to opt out?
- 27:14Why do you have to have this narrow window when many teachers are on vacation?
- 27:20Many teachers are out doing other things.
- 27:22Well, that's what's why right there.
- 27:23It's on purpose because they're gonna be, you know, that's I'm sorry, that's the that's the opt-out window.
- 27:29And um, if you're on vacation, then I guess you're on vacation, and you're not gonna be able to opt out.
- 27:37I mean, it's genius on their part.
- 27:41But it's gotta stop ultimately.
- 27:44We we, you know, we gotta be done with this.
- 27:47Perhaps the most contentious issue, Nelson said, is how teachers' union dues are spent.
- 27:54And here we go.
- 27:55This is the biggie.
- 27:57A review of the NEA and the American Federation of Teachers Unions websites show that both heavily favored Democrats and promote, are you ready?
- 28:00And the American Federation of Teachers Unions websites show that both heavily favored Democrats and promote, are you ready?
- 28:09That promote transgender ideology.
- 28:09Promote transgender ideology.
- 28:12They promote DEI.
- 28:12They promote DEI.
- 28:14You got to have diversity, equity, and inclusion.
- 28:14You got to have diversity, equity, and inclusion.
- 28:17Uh, they promote special protections for illegal immigrants.
- 28:17They promote special protections for illegal immigrants.
- 28:22Hmm.
- 28:22Hmm, really?
- 28:23Really?
- 28:23Well, we got to have special protection for these illegals.
- 28:23We got to have special protection for these illegals.
- 28:27Uh, and that's why they're promoting going.
- 28:27And that's why they're promoting going out, taking the kids out to the streets and protesting our law enforcement, our border patrol agents.
- 28:40Also heavily promote anti-school choice measures because they don't want you to have a choice.
- 28:53They would rather that you be forced to do what they want you to do.
- 29:02Ultimately, they know and understand that choice would be the death knell.
- 29:08If if if there was actual choice, if if parents actually had a choice, and if their property tax dollars could follow them to the school of their choice, their uh this whole thing would change in a heartbeat.
- 29:30And they know that.
- 29:31They understand that.
- 29:32They get it.
- 29:34They're not dumb.
- 29:35You know, we we got to hand that to them.
- 29:38They're not dumb.
- 29:39Nelson said that hundreds of millions of dollars are flowing into this progressive apparatus.
- 29:44Hundreds of millions.
- 29:45This is a this is an unbelievable cash cow.
- 29:49It's an unbelievable cash cow being operated by the Marxists.
- 29:56Uh is there any other way we can describe it?
- 29:58I mean, if there is, I'll describe it another way if you think.
- 30:02Okay, raise your hand if you think there's another way to describe it.
- 30:05I mean, we've we've come to the conclusion in the agreement here that it is being led and conducted by Marxists, right?
- 30:15Uh, at least those with heavily Marxist leaning attributes.
- 30:21Uh, I mean, the things that they promote are things that that Marxism promotes.
- 30:27Just divisive ideology designed to separate, designed to agitate, designed to aggravate, and any other eight you can think of.
- 30:41A recent report from Defending Education, which we do love around here, that group.
- 30:47Uh, the the report states that teachers' unions at the local, state, and national level.
- 30:53Are you ready for this?
- 30:54They've spent more than one billion dollars on far-left political causes and issues.
- 31:03Unrelated, by the way, to collective bargaining.
- 31:06This isn't about making jobs better for teachers.
- 31:11It's not about bargaining collectively to make your work environment better or make or to to cause your work situation to be to be better or to be more productive.
- 31:24Since 2015, this one billion has just gone to to Democrat policies.
- 31:33That's it.
- 31:34It's gone to promote DEI, transgender whatever, uh, anti-law protests.
- 31:45Um defending education, uh, President Nicole Neely said in a recent statement that given the outsized role that unions have played in the education system over the past 50 years, greater transparency on union spending is absolutely critical, so that policymakers and teachers themselves can make informed decisions about the role that these entities should or should not play in the future.
- 32:13The Epoch Times, Gifford here and the gang reached out to the NEA and to the American Federation of Teachers.
- 32:20Guess what?
- 32:22Crickets, no response, nothing but crickets.
- 32:28In response to prior Florida legislation that prohibited teachers' unions from deducting dues directly from paychecks.
- 32:37The Florida Education Association contracted with a company to withdraw dues from members' bank accounts after their paychecks were deposited.
- 32:46How does that work?
- 32:47How are you able to uh get around that?
- 32:53Well, we're not we're not taking it directly from their paycheck.
- 32:56I mean, their paycheck gets deposited, and then and then we're we're removing it directly from their from their bank account.
- 33:05I mean, that's okay.
- 33:06There wasn't any language against that in the law.
- 33:11The Florida Education Association here defends their actions on their website.
- 33:16They state this type of paycheck deception legislation is nothing new and has been wielded across the country to weaken unions and rollback conditions.
- 33:27But yet you're not.
- 33:29You spent one billion over the last decade, not on conditions unrelated to collective bargaining.
- 33:40It's no secret that this legislation is designed to diminish our collective voice.
- 33:52Implemented a similar system.
- 33:53It also denounced Idaho governor Brad Little for refusing to veto the legislation removing their ability to deduct dues right out of paychecks.
- 34:08Lane uh McInley in an April 10th statement said that Idaho's students and the dedicated professionals who teach them will be worse off because of his choice.
- 34:21Governor Bradlittle's choice to not veto this bill.
- 34:24They deserve better.
- 34:27The Freedom Foundation is scrutinizing public organized labor groups across the nation, not just teachers unions.
- 34:35In Oregon, it recently submitted a complaint to the state employment relations board on behalf of a union member who said dues were deducted from his paycheck without his authorization.
- 34:47He asked for a refund and requested to opt out of the union, only to be told that the window to do so is August 8th through September 9th.
- 34:56That's it.
- 34:56You got a 30-day window, and you can't opt out beyond that.
- 35:02Nelson here did not work on that case, but said this type of practice is common in an era of direct deposits and withdrawals.
- 35:02Nelson here did not work on that case, but said this type of practice is common in an era of direct deposits and withdrawals.
- 35:13There are no mechanisms in place to verify that the individual worker have authorized the form he said, let alone understand it.
- 35:23So teachers' unions are able to just uh plow through, plow through full steam ahead.
- 35:30However, the good news here is that uh states are waking up, and there are efforts in place to curb these organizations to curb these unions.
- 35:45Uh, if if we want to ultimately, if if we want our country to look different in the future, if if we want it to be patriotic, if we want our citizens to be patriotic, to love patriotism and to revere the law, and then one of two things have to happen.
- 36:05Either either we have to regain control of the public system, or we have to put our our kids somewhere else.
- 36:14We have to put them in a system that honors tradition, in a system that that honors values, that that honors um virtue, that that just uh that honors goodness that honors truth, that honors beauty, that that's what our kids need.
- 36:35That's what they deserve.
- 36:37That is what is is required here.
- 36:39Our kids deserve an actual education that's going to form and shape their souls.
- 36:44I've got an interesting article here that maybe I'll get into when we come out of the break.
- 36:50It's called The Architecture of Beauty, and it's uh a letter from the editor in the classical teacher magazine.
- 36:57And this uh it's it's not long, it's just you know, five or six paragraphs.
- 37:03I don't know, maybe maybe 500 words.
- 37:05It's just a quick read.
- 37:06I mean, you can read it in minutes.
- 37:08The architecture of beauty, and it describes uh why we want kids to be immersed in in beauty and what they can learn from studying things of of beauty, and it's it's the antithesis to what they're being taught right now in the public system.
- 37:29And it's it's a beautiful piece.
- 37:31All right, we're gonna pick that up on the other side of this break.
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- 39:46Uh a Washington-based human rights organization today filed a federal complaint against the NEA, alleging that the teachers' union discriminated against its Jewish members, promoted a hostile environment throughout K-12 public schools.
- 40:05Well, that just doesn't seem like the NEA, does it?
- 40:09The Lewis D.
- 40:10Brandy's Center Coalition to Combat Anti-Semitism.
- 40:15Filed the charge with the U.S.
- 40:17Equal Employment Opportunity Commission, the the uh Lewis D.
- 40:22Brandies, by the way, is the first Jewish Supreme Court justice.
- 40:28And so the uh center coalition to combat anti-Semitism, named in his honor, filed these charges with the U.S.
- 40:38Equal Employment Opportunity Commission.
- 40:41The complaint cited several anti-Semitic incidences.
- 40:46Incidents, incidents, incidents, yeah, okay.
- 40:51Uh apparently, allegedly, these took place during the NEA's annual meeting last year, all of them.
- 40:59As well as a pattern of discrimination, according to the complaint, in which the union, which by the way, has more than three million members.
- 41:08Did you know that?
- 41:10The NEA alone has three million members.
- 41:13Uh the union denied Jewish members opportunities for leadership, mentorship, grievance, and training.
- 41:20This is all part of the complaint.
- 41:23So the uh the time frame here is their annual meeting last year.
- 41:29It took place in July.
- 41:31I played clips from it.
- 41:32Uh because I mean, at one point, Becky Pringle was screaming and pounding the podium.
- 41:39Was that last year's?
- 41:40I mean, probably.
- 41:41I don't know.
- 41:41I think that happens every year.
- 41:44So during the July 25 representative assembly event in Portland, Oregon.
- 41:50Anti-Israel delegates disrupted and intimidated a speaker who tried to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the union's Jewish affairs caucus, according to the coalition.
- 42:00According to the coalition.
- 42:03They also surrounded and shouted at Jewish delegates and applauded and laughed at remarks about a former member, an 82-year-old Holocaust survivor who was murdered in an anti-Semitic attack in Colorado, the complaint alleged.
- 42:03They also surrounded and shouted at Jewish delegates and applauded and laughed at remarks about a former member, an 82-year-old Holocaust survivor who was murdered in an anti-Semitic attack in Colorado, the complaint alleged.
- 42:18These are adults doing this.
- 42:18These are adults doing this.
- 42:21Actual adults that are part of the teachers' union.
- 42:21Actual adults that are part of the teachers' union.
- 42:26And they're teaching your kid.
- 42:26And they're they're teaching your kid.
- 42:28It's probably the same group that.
- 42:28It's probably the same group that had the kids make posters in their classroom.
- 42:33I mean, probably, I don't know.
- 42:36The NEA unlawfully used ethnic and racial classifications, and in doing so, categorized Jews as white and set aside certain governance positions and other benefits for non-white members, according to the coalition, which also alleged that references to Jews as the primary victims of the Holocaust were removed from the NEA's updated handbook.
- 43:04The union also distributed to its membership a map that didn't recognize Israel and labeled all of that nation's territory as Palestine, according to the complaint.
- 43:18Oh man, really?
- 43:20I'd like to get my hands on that map.
- 43:24I just I mean, really, are we shocked here?
- 43:30Are we shocked andor surprised?
- 43:32No, we're not.
- 43:33The answer is no.
- 43:35We are neither shocked nor are we surprised.
- 43:39Uh the Brandy Center called for corrective action to ensure equal treatment and a non-discriminatory environment for all NEA members.
- 43:48Well, here's here's an idea.
- 43:49Here's a thought.
- 43:50How about you leave the NEA?
- 43:53How about you take your ball and go home?
- 43:55Now I understand you want corrective action, and I'm I'm all for corrective action.
- 43:59I'm all for non-discriminatory environments.
- 44:02But sometimes you just have to, I don't know, I guess you can fight them.
- 44:07You can try to get them to change.
- 44:09But the best bet here is to is to leave and watch as this union will wither on the vine, I would think.
- 44:21Kenneth Marcus is the uh CEO and former chief of the Department of Education's Office for Civil Rights.
- 44:28He's the CEO at the Brandy Center.
- 44:32Kenneth Marcus, he said the NEA's conduct is both completely illegal and morally unjustifiable.
- 44:41Okay.
- 44:42True.
- 44:43Not shocking.
- 44:44He continued.
- 44:46All educators, regardless of their ethnicity, deserve a safe workplace and support from the people whose job it is to protect them 100%.
- 44:56We agree 100%.
- 44:57But he wasn't done.
- 44:59This is exactly the type of discrimination against which Title VII was designed to protect.
- 45:09And by fighting to protect our NEA members from bigotry, we're also fighting to protect our children from an environment that allows discrimination and anti-Semitic tropes.
- 45:21Unions are supposed to protect their members' rights.
- 45:24The NEA is actually violating them.
- 45:27Well, I mean, the NEA isn't, they're not concerned with all their members.
- 45:31They only want to support their the Marxist faction of the party, ultimately.
- 45:39I mean, change my mind.
- 45:41Somebody tell me I'm wrong.
- 45:44The Brandy Center previously helped Jews change discriminatory practices at Microsoft and the New York Legal Aid Group Union.
- 45:55It also sued and reached settlements with Harvard University, which led to the Ivy League institution establishing a working definition of anti-Semitism and recognizing the centrality of Zionism to Jewish identity, according to their statement.
- 46:10Do you think that Harvard used this map that did not show Israel as a country, but that whole landmass as Palestine?
- 46:19Do you think that map is being presented in geography class?
- 46:23Oh, you question if we even have geography class anymore.
- 46:26I mean, that's fair.
- 46:27That's a fair question.
- 46:28We might not.
- 46:30A geography, is geography a thing anymore in high school.
- 46:33Do they teach geography?
- 46:36And if they do, are they using this NEA-sponsored map of Palestine?
- 46:44On July 24th, 2025, which was two weeks after its annual meeting, the NEA updated its handbook to acknowledge and promote International Holocaust Remembrance Day.
- 47:16Well, I mean, perhaps.
- 47:18I don't know.
- 47:19That's uh you can you can talk all day long and you can say all day long what you want to do, but it's your actions, I think.
- 47:32That really count, isn't it?
- 47:35Are you actively supporting this this group?
- 47:39I mean, if they're in your union, aren't you supposed to support them?
- 47:45You know, I suppose if the if there were Christians, there were if there were vocal Christian teachers in the NA, do you think the NEA would be supporting them?
- 47:53Do you think the NEA would allow vocal Christian teachers to have roles in leadership?
- 48:00Or how about this?
- 48:01Just let's say you're not a Christian.
- 48:02Let's just say you love America.
- 48:04Let's say you love capitalism.
- 48:06Do you believe the NA NEA would have you in a place of leadership?
- 48:11Let's say that, like Abraham Lincoln, you want to teach a reverence for the laws in this country.
- 48:18Do you think you would you would be in leadership in the NEA?
- 48:23Anyone in the no, I know.
- 48:25Okay.
- 48:26None of us feel like you would have a role in leadership.
- 48:30It's probably true, and you wouldn't.
- 48:34What I would like to do here as we as we wind this down.
- 48:37I mean, this whole, you know, congratulations, by the way, to the states who are who have these teacher unions in their crosshairs, as it were.
- 48:50Because these are these are states and these are legislators in these states who believe that education is important.
- 49:00And they believe that education should be a particular thing.
- 49:00And they believe that education should be a particular thing.
- 49:05I was reading this article the other day, and I'm going to turn to it real quick, uh, because the statement jumped out at me.
- 49:05I was reading this article the other day, and I'm going to turn to it real quick because the statement jumped out at me.
- 49:14I underlined it in red.
- 49:14I underlined it in read.
- 49:16That's a quote from Thomas Aquinas.
- 49:16That's a quote from Thomas Aquinas.
- 49:19Uh the line here says that Thomas Aquinas teaches us that all beauty is an imitation of the divine goodness of God and beauty.
- 49:20The line here says that Thomas Aquinas teaches us that all beauty is an imitation of the divine goodness of God.
- 49:29And beauty for beauty's sake is good.
- 49:32And no other explanation is necessary.
- 49:36And the purpose of education is orienting our affections and ourselves forward what is beautiful, what is what is good and what is true, and marching steadily toward those ends.
- 49:52That's the purpose of education, to orient ourselves and orient our affections to what is beautiful, to what is good, to what is true, and to march steadily in the direction of those things.
- 50:10Now we we agree with Aquinas here.
- 50:13I don't know that that the NEA and its leadership would agree with Aquinas that that's the purpose of education is to orient our the things that we love and and ourselves towards this this direction.
- 50:34Every great artist knows that the highest aspiration of art is beauty, and that the best means to this end is the imitation of beautiful things.
- 50:45This is what this is what artists do.
- 50:47They go after they go after beautiful things, they imitate beautiful things.
- 50:55And young people, when I we were having this conversation yesterday, or maybe the day before, I don't recall.
- 51:01It was a couple of days ago.
- 51:02We were talking about about why sex ed shouldn't be taught in the classrooms, because the the whole point of the education is to is to give kids just a little bit, little snippets, and then allow them to experiment, allow them to imitate.
- 51:20And this is what art is in the highest aspiration of it.
- 51:25Um it's beauty, and that the best means to this end is the imitation of beautiful things.
- 51:33Modern art, of course, is not this, it's the exact opposite.
- 51:38It's it's plagued with the idea that the goal of art itself is novelty, it's it's self-expression or it's social change or it's shock value.
- 51:48That's the goal of art, according to modern artists, what they believe, instead of of imitating beautiful things, because that truly that's what that's what art is, and that's what education is.
- 52:04It's the imitation of of what is what is beautiful, what is good, what is true, what is what is noble.
- 52:12Every artistic rendering of something is an artistic rendering of something.
- 52:19Even an artist as uh Picasso, famous for breaking a lot of the rules of traditional art, um, but learned how to paint in the first place by going and setting up his easel in front of the masters by uh, you know, going to the famous museums and learning how to paint by observing, observing, observing the best, the best that there was.
- 52:50Um that is that's education.
- 52:56Education is to observe what is the very best that that we have available to us.
- 53:02We should go after it.
- 53:04Uh, in this this piece here, it's a letter letter from the editor entitled The Architect of Beauty.
- 53:10It came out in the uh the classical teacher magazine.
- 53:17The author notes that uh several years ago the American Enterprise magazine conducted an interview with Alan Greenberg.
- 53:25He is a classical architect.
- 53:28And it was an interesting discussion on how he approached his craft.
- 53:33And one of the things Greenberg noted was the uninspired nature of so many modern buildings and modern architecture, and he contrasted it with the greatness of buildings designed and constructed in in former times.
- 53:50He explained his experience attending uh a university in South Africa and how he was taught the principles of architect, uh architecture.
- 53:58Here's what he said.
- 54:00We studied the history of architecture by the comparative method.
- 54:05When you do measured drawings to scale of great buildings, sort of five and a half years of schooling, you had a vocabulary of 100 buildings, which you knew by heart, by dimension.
- 54:18The great buildings of architectural history were mixed into one's architectural brain cells.
- 54:27And this is this is why we we want to read the great books.
- 54:33We want to read the great books to mix and mingle the uh the greatest writings of literary history into our literary brain cells.
- 54:47That, my friend, is a classical education, and that you know, it shouldn't be, we shouldn't have to call it classical education.
- 54:54It should be American education, and that that should be our approach, that we would want to absorb the greatest works from the greatest minds, at least that we're aware of.
- 55:10Uh his central assumption behind his approach or behind this architectural approach is this.
- 55:15You learn how to build great buildings yourself by first learning and imitating great buildings.
- 55:21And this is a principle we need to remember when considering how we approach education and how we approach reading.
- 55:30Um how to build a great human being.
- 55:34We do it by first learning and imitating the great human beings that have that have gone before us.
- 55:42This is why the classical works are so important.
- 55:44This is why this is why the Bible, in my opinion, should be a part of American education, because we want to be great human beings, and to be great, we have to study those that we consider to be great.
- 55:59And we have to imitate them.
- 56:00Have to imitate them.
- 56:00We have to emulate them.
- 56:01We have to emulate them.
- 56:02We have to model our lives after them.
- 56:02We have to model our lives after them.
- 56:05This is this is the point.
- 56:05This is this is the point.
- 56:07I mean, a lot of people say that Jefferson cut all the miracles of Christ out of the Bible, and he made his own Bible.
- 56:07I mean, a lot of people say that Jefferson cut all the miracles of Christ out of the Bible and he made his own Bible.
- 56:15Well, yeah, he he everything that was in red.
- 56:15Well, yeah, he he everything that was in red, Jefferson cut out of the Bible.
- 56:18Jefferson cut out of the Bible, but he pasted that into his own Bible.
- 56:20But he pasted that into his own Bible.
- 56:23He wanted to immerse himself in the morality and the teachings in the works of Christ.
- 56:23He wanted to immerse himself in the morality and the teachings in the works of Christ.
- 56:29That was his point.
- 56:30That's what he was going after.
- 56:32That's what we should be going after.
- 56:34It should embody our education.
- 56:38All right, my friends, that's it.
- 56:39I'm up against it.
- 56:40That's all the time we have for today.
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