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- 0:04Speaker 1: Welcome to Aaron Manke's Cabinet of Curiosities, a production of
- 0:07Speaker 1: iHeartRadio and Grimm and Mild.
- 0:12Speaker 2: Our world is full of the unexplainable, and if history
- 0:17Speaker 2: is an open book, all of these amazing tales are
- 0:20Speaker 2: right there on display, just waiting for us to explore.
- 0:25Speaker 2: Welcome to the Cabinet of Curiosities. There is no name
- 0:37Speaker 2: more controversial in modern Indian politics than oring Zeb. But
- 0:41Speaker 2: he's not a modern politician.
- 0:43Speaker 1: No. He was an emperor who ruled from sixteen fifty
- 0:46Speaker 1: eight to seventeen oh seven. Indian Muslims see him as
- 0:50Speaker 1: a national hero, while Indian Hindus see him as a
- 0:53Speaker 1: murdering tyrant, and because of this, frequent violent clashes have
- 0:57Speaker 1: erupted over his tomb as recently as last year. It's amazing,
- 1:02Speaker 1: but perhaps not surprising, that someone from hundreds of years
- 1:05Speaker 1: ago could still be having such an impact today. All
- 1:09Speaker 1: countries like to co opt certain historical figures and push
- 1:12Speaker 1: a modern narrative, but for the curious, the actual historical
- 1:16Speaker 1: details can bring us closer to the truth. Oringzeb's childhood
- 1:20Speaker 1: is a familiar one to cabinet listeners. Born into royalty,
- 1:24Speaker 1: he had to murder or imprison his family in order
- 1:27Speaker 1: to become king. The most notable detail from his childhood
- 1:30Speaker 1: has to do with his mother's death. You've heard of
- 1:33Speaker 1: taj Mahal right, well, that was his mother's tomb, built
- 1:37Speaker 1: by his grief stricken father. However, Oringzeb was less interested
- 1:41Speaker 1: in building monuments and more interested in expanding his power.
- 1:45Speaker 1: His kingdom, known as the Mughal Empire, was a Sunni
- 1:48Speaker 1: Muslim empire with its origin in modern day Afghanistan. His
- 1:53Speaker 1: great grandfather had expanded it to cover half of India,
- 1:56Speaker 1: but Oringzeb thought that he could unite the entire Soub continent.
- 2:01Speaker 1: He believed that he could do this through Islam, bringing
- 2:03Speaker 1: various regional princes under his control by forcing them to
- 2:07Speaker 1: more closely obey religious law. Once he had done this,
- 2:11Speaker 1: he started to tax Hindus and Shia Muslims at double
- 2:14Speaker 1: the rate of Sunni Muslims. This was obviously unpopular, to
- 2:19Speaker 1: say the least, but Oringzeb would put down any resistance,
- 2:22Speaker 1: violently burning the temples of those who didn't comply. However,
- 2:26Speaker 1: he would spare those who did and adamantly protected their communities. Ultimately,
- 2:31Speaker 1: only a small fraction of Hindu temples were ever destroyed.
- 2:35Speaker 1: There are several cases of Muslims harassing Hindu temples and citizens,
- 2:39Speaker 1: and in such cases Orringzeb often sided with the Hindus
- 2:43Speaker 1: and had them protected and compensated. But his taxation policy
- 2:47Speaker 1: did more than create violence. It inherently made Hindus into
- 2:51Speaker 1: a second class citizen, and Oringzeb's protective tendencies only extended
- 2:55Speaker 1: so far. Three major challenges to his rule would test
- 2:59Speaker 1: his power and lead him into violent action. First, the
- 3:03Speaker 1: Sikh Guru of the time, the leader of that entire faith,
- 3:07Speaker 1: had a popular following within India. He was said to
- 3:09Speaker 1: perform miracles and was actively converting people to his faith,
- 3:13Speaker 1: which was in direct conflict with Oringzeb's policies. On top
- 3:17Speaker 1: of this, he had a large nomadic army that sometimes
- 3:20Speaker 1: followed him around. Oringzeb couldn't allow this threat to his rule,
- 3:24Speaker 1: and so he had the Guru captured and executed. Second,
- 3:28Speaker 1: he didn't anticipate what would become his greatest rival of all,
- 3:32Speaker 1: the Marata Empire. It was a Hindu empire in southern
- 3:35Speaker 1: India that had only recently risen against the previous oppressors
- 3:39Speaker 1: and started to expand once Oringzeb encountered them, he found
- 3:43Speaker 1: their hit and run guerrilla tactics hard to contend with.
- 3:47Speaker 1: By sixteen eighty one, the Marata Empire was led by
- 3:50Speaker 1: King Sambachi, whose men were known for their violent burning
- 3:53Speaker 1: of villages and the raping of women. This was in
- 3:56Speaker 1: contrast to Oringzeb's treatment of women, which was traditional and
- 4:00Speaker 1: tricked by any modern standard, but still afforded them protection
- 4:03Speaker 1: and certain rights. Simbaji contributed to Orringzeb's third great challenge,
- 4:08Speaker 1: the defection of his fourth son, Akbar. Akbar had been
- 4:12Speaker 1: sent to put down rebellions in the south, but was
- 4:15Speaker 1: instead tempted to join them and depose his father. When
- 4:18Speaker 1: this failed, Simbaji took him in and tried to help
- 4:21Speaker 1: him muster more support. When this didn't happen, Simbaji sent
- 4:25Speaker 1: Akbar to safety in Persia, while Oringzeb ultimately captured Simbaji
- 4:30Speaker 1: and had him executed in sixteen eighty six. Oringzeb never
- 4:34Speaker 1: did find his son Akbar, but he swore that he
- 4:36Speaker 1: would outlive him if nothing else. Oringzeb would continue to
- 4:40Speaker 1: fight rebellions his entire reign, but by the end of
- 4:43Speaker 1: his life in seventeen oh seven, he had conquered almost
- 4:46Speaker 1: the entirety of India. Despite all of the turmoil, his
- 4:50Speaker 1: kingdom was incredibly wealthy, producing more goods than any other
- 4:54Speaker 1: on the planet at the time. He was more powerful
- 4:57Speaker 1: than contemporaries such as Louis the fourteenth and Frank and
- 5:00Speaker 1: the Qing dynasty emperors in China. His strict religious policies
- 5:05Speaker 1: may have led to violence, but they did bring about
- 5:07Speaker 1: a unification that India wouldn't enjoy again for decades after.
- 5:11Speaker 1: Following his reign, infighting among the different groups in his
- 5:15Speaker 1: empire made India an easy target for British invasion. This
- 5:19Speaker 1: also gets blamed on Oringzeb but it's hard to know
- 5:22Speaker 1: if a more pluralized India would have stood a better chance. Ultimately,
- 5:26Speaker 1: he was less the tyrant that modern pundits paint him
- 5:29Speaker 1: as and more a stern, traditional leader, no more violent
- 5:33Speaker 1: than any other leader of the time, And for those
- 5:35Speaker 1: who are curious, he lived to the age of eighty eight,
- 5:39Speaker 1: outliving his hated son Akbar by just one year. A
- 5:57Speaker 1: long time ago, a stagecoach was rolling through the Wealth countryside,
- 6:01Speaker 1: not far from the town of Clandilo. The road ran
- 6:04Speaker 1: alongside a river. As the passengers looked out over the water,
- 6:07Speaker 1: they noticed a strange phenomenon, three red lights hovering over
- 6:12Speaker 1: the waves. Not knowing what to make of it, the
- 6:15Speaker 1: coach rolled on and the passengers put the strange sight
- 6:18Speaker 1: out of their minds. Soon after, three men found themselves
- 6:21Speaker 1: traveling down that very same river in a small boat
- 6:24Speaker 1: known as a coricle. They fought against the raging currents. However,
- 6:29Speaker 1: their boat overturned and all three were drowned in exactly
- 6:32Speaker 1: the same spot where the lights had been seen hovering
- 6:35Speaker 1: over the water. These lights, of course, have a special
- 6:39Speaker 1: name in Welsh folklore. They're known as a corpse candle.
- 6:42Speaker 1: They're rarely depicted as literal candles with wax and a wick.
- 6:46Speaker 1: There more often just lights hovering in the dark like fireflies.
- 6:50Speaker 1: Whenever a corpse candle appears, it's said to be an
- 6:53Speaker 1: omen of impending death, sometimes for someone nearby and other
- 6:58Speaker 1: times for the person who saw them. Their size can
- 7:01Speaker 1: correlate to how old the victim will be, and the
- 7:03Speaker 1: location can show where their final resting place will be.
- 7:07Speaker 1: When the lights are red, the doomed individual will be
- 7:10Speaker 1: a man, and when they are white, it will be
- 7:12Speaker 1: a woman. If the light is tall, it means that
- 7:14Speaker 1: they'll be old and if it's short, they'll be a child.
- 7:18Speaker 1: The earliest corpse candle stories are much like the one
- 7:21Speaker 1: with the men on the boat, simple ambiguous tales of
- 7:24Speaker 1: strange phenomena connected to the dead. Of course, if there
- 7:27Speaker 1: was a connection between the lights and the deaths, it
- 7:30Speaker 1: was a circumstantial one. The candles pointed to a location
- 7:33Speaker 1: where death would lurk, but they did little more than
- 7:36Speaker 1: shine ominously in the dark. Travelers saw them beside long
- 7:40Speaker 1: and lonely roads, pointing off into the gloom. Some of
- 7:43Speaker 1: these are known as corpse roads, which usually lead to
- 7:46Speaker 1: a cemetery or a churchyard, a place for rest for
- 7:50Speaker 1: those who have passed on. But as the legends expanded,
- 7:53Speaker 1: corpse candles were more than just a creepy signpost. If
- 7:57Speaker 1: you followed them, they said, you might find where some
- 8:00Speaker 1: or forgotten soul had died or been buried. One particularly
- 8:03Speaker 1: vivid story tells of a roving corpse candle that perfectly
- 8:07Speaker 1: traced a future funeral procession, right down to a fifteen
- 8:11Speaker 1: minute pause they had to make along the road to
- 8:13Speaker 1: the churchyard. Over time, they began to serve a dual purpose,
- 8:17Speaker 1: both as an omen and as a memorial. At first, glance,
- 8:22Speaker 1: it's impossible to tell if the corpse candle signals a
- 8:24Speaker 1: death that will happen or one that already has. If
- 8:28Speaker 1: you see one, you might even foretell your own impending doom. Later,
- 8:32Speaker 1: Welsh legends tell of corpse candles burning from within the
- 8:35Speaker 1: mouth of a dead man, or bringing a ghost to
- 8:38Speaker 1: pronounced doom upon a household. It became the proverbial light
- 8:42Speaker 1: that dying men and women would see as they passed on.
- 8:46Speaker 1: Like many folk tales, though these stories were first documented
- 8:49Speaker 1: in the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries, with their origin stretching
- 8:52Speaker 1: back into oral tradition, finding the very start of such
- 8:56Speaker 1: legends can be nearly impossible, even for experts in the
- 9:00Speaker 1: but of course folklorists have their own theories. Some have
- 9:03Speaker 1: suggested that the essential roots of the story, that is,
- 9:07Speaker 1: someone seeing a mysterious light on a road, are true,
- 9:11Speaker 1: and the supernatural elements are what came in later. According
- 9:14Speaker 1: to them, the story of the stagecoach near Clandilo may
- 9:17Speaker 1: not have literally happened, but someone might have had a
- 9:20Speaker 1: similar sighting and related it into the world of legend.
- 9:24Speaker 1: But what they saw wasn't an impossible flame floating over
- 9:27Speaker 1: a river. Now theories suggest that the first corpse candles
- 9:31Speaker 1: were in fact glow worms or electrical phenomena in the air,
- 9:35Speaker 1: natural things that the early Welsh people wouldn't have understood,
- 9:39Speaker 1: but would have been awed by all the same. Our brains,
- 9:41Speaker 1: after all, love to make connections. It's easy to imagine
- 9:45Speaker 1: that someone saw one of these optical effects and then
- 9:48Speaker 1: heard the story of a drowning nearby, and simply connected
- 9:51Speaker 1: the two. Rumors and speculations about deaths are temporary things,
- 9:57Speaker 1: but once a rumor becomes a ghost story, it tends
- 10:00Speaker 1: to have a much longer afterlife. I hope you enjoyed
- 10:08Speaker 1: today's guided tour through the Cabinet of Curiosities. This show
- 10:11Speaker 1: was created by me Aaron Manke in partnership with iHeart Podcasts,
- 10:16Speaker 1: researched and written by the Grim and Mild team, and
- 10:18Speaker 1: produced by Jesse Funk. Learn more about the show and
- 10:21Speaker 1: the people who make it over at Grimandmild dot com
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