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Sauce is the boss while Jaycee Horn plays on a bargain deal for Carolina! · C3 Panthers Podcast: Carolina Panthers

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[SPEAKER_08]: We don't work.
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[SPEAKER_08]: I hell up.
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[SPEAKER_12]: We're Carolina Panthers fans.
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[SPEAKER_05]: We can try to keep up a couple down.
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[SPEAKER_12]: Having a safe performance.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I'm gonna see a lot more of that shit going forward.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Panthers will be kind of dangerous.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Oh my C.P.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Redrin from the C.P.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Legion.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Only one part of the score is delicious.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The longest red Panthers find fast on the internet.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It's the C.P.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Panthers podcast.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Well, Greg, I, I, y'all.
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[SPEAKER_07]: What's good, Panther fans, sauce is boss about J.C.
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[SPEAKER_07]: horn plays on a bargain deal for the Carolina Panthers.
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[SPEAKER_07]: How can you play on a bargain deal, Cody, when you were just weeks and months ago, the highest pay corner in the history of football.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Tell that to the seller cap.
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[SPEAKER_07]: It is the C. Three Panthers podcast brought to you back, Carolina Cat Chronicles.com, where every Tuesday night, we chop up the latest Panthers news and opinions from the fan perspective.
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[SPEAKER_07]: It's the starving time of Panthers football news and that's a good thing as training camp near and the twenty twenty five season is about to get underway.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I think we've got two weeks until or let maybe even a little less till the Hall of Fame game footballs here.
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[SPEAKER_07]: And you want it to be quiet.
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[SPEAKER_07]: You want no arrest.
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[SPEAKER_07]: No injuries.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Let the problems happen to the Saints and to the Falcons.
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[SPEAKER_07]: No problems here with my wheel man Cody lag.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Good to hang out with you, my friend.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Tony, don't listen to three legion.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It may be the starving time, but the C.C.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Panthers podcast is here to feed you as always.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We've got a big show.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to talk about JC Horne being on a bargain deal in spite of recent news.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to talk about Alvin tomorrow.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Don't win some shade at the Carolina Panthers fans.
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[SPEAKER_01]: and the energy and our stadium.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We have NFL analysts saying that we are amongst the worst position groups.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And the NFL telling me there's always so much to talk about on the Tuesday night.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And there's no way that I'd rather be than sitting here with my boys talking Panther football.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But the best damn Panther fans in all of YouTube, you know I'm in love with.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's the brand damn bastard who did those skills.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Double JR.
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[SPEAKER_01]: John B. Jenkins ago fetched what's our brother, Justin K. Kristen Butler, my man, D. Money, Stonewall, the cardiac cat thirteen, the real AP, VR, the hope dealer, West Justin, and real Horsesley, turning down and not talking about the door brother, Lush Role.
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[SPEAKER_07]: The numbers two, five, two, two, two, eight, fifty, ninety eight.
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[SPEAKER_07]: That's two, five, two, two, eight, fifty, ninety eight.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Cody, I had a dream.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I think it was last night and night before that I kept saying the podcast number wrong on the show.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I was like, we've been saying it for a while.
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[SPEAKER_07]: That's two, five, two.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's burned into my memory at this point.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Oh, fifty, ninety eight.
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[SPEAKER_07]: It's like the only number I know almost, the other than my like parents, my childhood numbers.
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[SPEAKER_07]: nine thirty were doing away the still a little time to do the giveaway had it set for midnight back and I usually ended at eight.
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[SPEAKER_07]: So the twenty minutes had dropped the drop the link here in the chat to still get a couple of entries if you can.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Into the giveaway for that panther historic member of billio from Bank of America state MCK in the house how you doing my friend.
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[SPEAKER_05]: What up man.
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[SPEAKER_05]: We're just you know one week away.
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[SPEAKER_05]: from rookies reporting to training camp.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And man, that's that's pretty exciting one week to the day.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So when one week away from actually having substantial things to talk about, substantive things to talk about when it comes to the Carolina Panthers and not speculation.
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[SPEAKER_05]: We're not going to be able to, we're going to be able to say that we're seeing this or that on the field based of reporters on the field being able to provide us an out look of what they've seen that day.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I think we're going to have to start getting to work on trying to get some of these be reporters on the show during training camps since fans can't either.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So it's going to be, it's made it's an interesting time.
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[SPEAKER_05]: To start going into a year where it starts to, you know, again, it's oddly enough that Panthers are getting love from random places and then they're getting hate from, you know, similar places.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So it's a man, it's, I'm just glad to be able to talk about Panthers football and actually not have it be something that's just like, I wonder if we're going to do this.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It's going to be like, this is what we saw today.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Good news though when it comes to the Panthers.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I feel like there hasn't been a lot of controversy of opinion among fans.
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[SPEAKER_07]: And that is like there hasn't been maybe I'm wrong.
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[SPEAKER_07]: You guys in the chat to let me know is there been a real upset like a you know where we just disagreed with the direction of maybe a personal choice or coaching maybe I think last week we got a little bit into the double e conversation, but even that feels
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[SPEAKER_07]: a little light, right?
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[SPEAKER_07]: It just feels like this is everybody is just putting their head down marching in the same direction at that point.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Cody, where what direction are we marching to tonight?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So again, hit that like and that subscribe and that notification bell.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Sauce is the boss while Jason Horn plays on a bargain deal.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So if anybody's been paying attention,
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[SPEAKER_01]: to any of the news that happened today.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We have a new highest pay corner in the NFL.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Sauce Gardener gets paid by a lot of people felt she was very deserving of.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The jets have agreed to a four year, one hundred and twenty point four million dollars extension but saw us now getting sixty million dollars in new guarantees.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So this is now the highest paid corner in NFL history.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And this is something that I said a long time ago too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's better to sign these players now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: because they know that these players are coming up and they're all going to jump one another to be the highest pay corner.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right now you see the list on guard number one with thirty point one million per year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're staying on the right behind them at thirty million.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's the only at a reasonable twenty five million dollars per year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You have to wonder if Jayland Ramsey and Pat Santane are a little bit upset at their current earnings.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All the help could you be right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, shout out to Justin.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Don't off on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Twitter, it says it was a great idea to sign JC Horne before these contracts blew up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is pretty big news today.
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[SPEAKER_01]: How do you feel about this new basically identity almost that the Panthers seem to want to have to pay players a little bit early rather than a little bit too late, almost like we did with Brian Burns.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, I don't know if you really paid them that much early.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I guess you could have tested the waters for another year to see if you wanted to roll with them.
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[SPEAKER_07]: But I thought that the Panthers even, they had to shit or get off the pot when it came to JC Warren and that is either pay them or you just play them and decide to port ways and find a different way to move in the future because I don't know if they learned their lesson, Cody, when it came to Brian Burns, but you just
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[SPEAKER_07]: I think the problem with Brian Burns and maybe that's with our old leadership is that you just didn't have an opinion on them, right?
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[SPEAKER_07]: Like is they didn't know what the hell they wanted to do?
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[SPEAKER_07]: They didn't know if they wanted to pay them.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Or maybe they did to be honest, I mean, unless we continue to go back CK to that talk about like how we missed the trade opportunity with Brian Burns, the trade.
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[SPEAKER_07]: And it comes back to the two number ones and talk about that is you did missed that opportunity if it truly existed outside of that conversation.
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[SPEAKER_07]: The Panthers.
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[SPEAKER_07]: didn't miss the opportunity they decided that it wasn't worth their stake and uh... they moved on with them with jacy horn however um... you know you have a flailing a fledgling defense or young defense you have a dot to your player or at least who showed promise of being one with the pedigree of being a first round pick and really no other option so shit or get off the pot they paid them i guess they could have waited two more months and paid more
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[SPEAKER_07]: CK felt like they just said to me, what do you think this tells us about Brian Burns first is like did that do that mean they just really weren't committed to them.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I mean they weren't because they didn't pay them.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I mean, yes, I know it's I think it's that they maybe didn't value him at the same level right at the value.
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[SPEAKER_05]: You know, uh, or J.C.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Horn, I mean, I think that's really what it boils down to.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I don't think it has to be any more complex than that.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Um, I think that it's it was clear that from a position position group, uh, Brian Burns wasn't elite right, and I feel like it's a
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[SPEAKER_05]: It's he's he was a good player and I think he had the capability of being great, but I think when you're talking about even above the average or a good, you know borderline great cornerback versus a good borderline great, you know, eddressure, I think that you're going to take a cornerback in today's league with the way that these quarterbacks are just like constant.
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[SPEAKER_05]: We have
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[SPEAKER_05]: more elite quarterbacks in the league now than I think you know I argue with you would you would you be able to say at any point in history in the NFL you know there's every single division you're talking about two or three guys that you're putting on the the the category of you know potential top ten candidate if they you know have the supporting cast around them
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[SPEAKER_05]: And so I think cornerback offers a lot there.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I know Edge still has an impact on those guys, and I'm not trying to take diminish that.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I just think that it's clear that the value of what a Edge rusher or what a cornerback has.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It's clear that our front office values the cornerback position right now over top of that.
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[SPEAKER_07]: And listen, you know, it's the house gardener's first name, Carter, because he put him in a mod.
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[SPEAKER_01]: A mod saw some gardener.
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[SPEAKER_07]: see if they got to eat those.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I might deal with JC on one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And listen, I know that he said an injury history.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Shout out to KG-Cemeteries.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is really good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The injury history means you cannot pay him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: big money.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The Panthers did pay him big money.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Earlier this year, he was the highest pay corner in the NFL, but it's just why I endorsed signing him now, because now that contract looks brilliant, and you know, when you look at their externally on what the sauce gardener got paid, and listen, I know those engineers, they were rough, and I'm not going to say that they weren't.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I genuinely believe that JC Horne might be the singularly most talented player on the entire roster.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, well, yeah, probably right.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I have to play or as you know, because you want to say that you can say Derek Brown, but he's not skill, you know, he's like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, I mean, football games, but I mean, the pure athleticism and the kind of cooling ability, the interception ability passes defended.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, we had this conversation a little bit last Tuesday, but JC on his hand.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He really is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't mind saying this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I feel like this is going to pay out more on the future after we have another breakout year for us to shoot.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I don't know that if you got as great of a deal like if what you said what this is when you said that what sauce garden you got a deal of a lifetime or you said very
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[SPEAKER_07]: distinctly like wow we're looking back this is great because of the what the five million dollar difference in this but we're a we'll wait to see what sauce gardeners contract i'll try to google a bit more it's not up on uh over the cap yet but
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[SPEAKER_07]: If you look at what this tweet says, what does it say?
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[SPEAKER_07]: What's twenty?
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[SPEAKER_07]: It's sixty million in a new guarantees.
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[SPEAKER_07]: J. C. Horn does signed a four year one hundred million dollar contract extension with seventy two million dollar in guaranteed money.
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[SPEAKER_07]: So I think about that is usually it's about the guaranteed.
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[SPEAKER_07]: money is how I walk the player in four years.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Look, I tell you this with J.C.
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[SPEAKER_07]: horns contract.
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[SPEAKER_07]: If you go, in fact, let me put it up here as we look at it.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I will look at it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, why are your brands up?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, still all with the one day.
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[SPEAKER_01]: well-horned bring the leadership for the wicked debuts and based on what you said during the Panthers blueprint I think he will you know like all that cat thirteen says he made it a point to say that he wants to win a gold jacket with the Panthers he wants to be an all-time great and he wants to win events and buy the trophy
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[SPEAKER_01]: for the Carolina Panthers.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that level of dedication is admirable, you know, he's changed up the way the trains and spite of the injuries that he's had and has been able to sort of continue to grow this entire time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I said before, I'll play like juicy home one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I will never be embarrassed or blush, looking at his numbers because of why he has the potential to bring to the organization.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Would you find tunnels?
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[SPEAKER_07]: Well, I mean, I was first to get some questions in my question.
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[SPEAKER_07]: You think about doing this podcast for twelve years, I would know the answers to some of these things.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I wonder if there's a difference between a contract extension and a free agent contract, right?
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[SPEAKER_07]: Like I only think about them as an organization, like if you let a contract expire, right?
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[SPEAKER_07]: Because it list as a contract extension says four years, but the twenty twenty five year
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[SPEAKER_07]: Really doesn't look to be a peer to be a part of the contract.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Maybe kind of lingering on to the old one, right?
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[SPEAKER_07]: Because four years, twenty six, twenty seven, twenty eight, twenty nine are the numbers.
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[SPEAKER_07]: This year you're getting him.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Look at this.
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[SPEAKER_07]: The cap number right now at seven million.
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[SPEAKER_07]: He only counts two point six percent of the cap next year.
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[SPEAKER_07]: It jumps to seven point eight percent as he goes to a twenty three million.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Then twenty two and twenty seven.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I looked at the Panthers have an opportunity.
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[SPEAKER_07]: It was a little surprised about the contract because not surprised when you hear seventy two million dollars in guaranteed and it's a hundred million dollar contract.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Really this is potentially a eighty million dollar contract.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Right, because I mean, if you have problems with not problems, but they can get out of this in twenty twenty nine and save twenty five million dollars against the cap and just have five million dollars in dead money.
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[SPEAKER_07]: So it is four years if you count this year, but once contractual years, you get a free up here in this one.
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[SPEAKER_07]: So, yeah, but this is kind of friendly for the Panthers that would say.
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[SPEAKER_07]: And the way, like I mean, you kind of put aside that this is a lot of money.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I think we need to think about a contract for a team, right?
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[SPEAKER_07]: Like, I mean, all contracts are going to be a lot of money, particularly when you pay top players, right?
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[SPEAKER_07]: I mean, that's to say, oh, well, you got them for thirty second value.
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[SPEAKER_07]: That doesn't happen, right?
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[SPEAKER_07]: So you got a top tier player.
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[SPEAKER_07]: But for me, a contract is more for an organization, is can you play a pay-a-player fairly where they're happy?
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[SPEAKER_07]: But also have a means to get out of it if it does it work out for you.
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[SPEAKER_07]: So say, some of the commoners said, like, I mean, you have a continued issue with
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[SPEAKER_07]: injuries, which I don't think is really it's been different for jc because they've not been giant injuries, not like the surgery.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just like they've been very weird injuries.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, it's different.
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[SPEAKER_07]: It's like different places broke my finger open in the oven.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but I'll give you a hand on a helmet or something stupid like that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and shout out to viewer the hope dealer for the one ninety nine c three bomb.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He says I love points out to you as a leader.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He performs and is not a diva like some corners and that's a great point too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Didn't know if you'd think about
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[SPEAKER_01]: the traditional panther person now that the panthers as an organization have really sort of valued for a long time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like J.C.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Holden values that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He loves football, puts his head down, goes to work, inspires up the injuries and never let that bother him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think he continues to play his best football as time goes on.
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[SPEAKER_07]: It was kind of a lunch pale guy in a way outside of having the fun celebration of pulling the cell phone out of after a touchdown.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I got a friend Bob Rose, the Saints writer, and he had JC who weren't on his podcast a couple of times and just really down the earth go to work.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Joe Horn is dead because he was a saint, right?
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[SPEAKER_07]: So J.C.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Horn is his legendary dad legendary wide receiver for the New Orleans Saints and he would go on and win on my buddy's podcast a couple of times and
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[SPEAKER_07]: real down to earth, go to work mentality, and maybe there's a different era for some of these guys in the past.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I mean, he was a wide receiver as a very successful one, but I don't know if it's different today because the money is so much bigger, right?
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[SPEAKER_07]: Like I mean, in the early two thousand, yeah, these guys are star foot players, they're side and multimillion dollar contracts, but it's like this is
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[SPEAKER_07]: I don't know if twenty million dollars in two thousand and eight is what I mean is a hundred billion dollars kind of the same on pace right for what society was like or is this is has the NFL exploded so much where these kind like we're starting to really hit some different level money I mean when we started this podcast guys at twenty thirteen the cap
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[SPEAKER_07]: was a hundred and twelve million dollars for teams.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Now it's like two forty.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, it's insane.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, it's ten years where twelve years.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Actually, I think it's good in a sense.
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[SPEAKER_07]: It's not only does it share the growth of the NFL.
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[SPEAKER_07]: But that at least they're expanding the revenue sharing in a way that lets these guys share a little bit more money with the players and make it more fun.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I mean, you know, I mean, you got to give a money to the players to for them to play.
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[SPEAKER_07]: These owners are making so much money.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_07]: What does that tell you?
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[SPEAKER_07]: Is that inflation?
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[SPEAKER_07]: Is it the growth of the NFL?
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[SPEAKER_07]: It's all the above.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Anyway, J.C.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Horn's dad, Joe Horn, kind of a lunch bell guy.
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[SPEAKER_07]: And you can kind of see that in J.C.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Horn.
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[SPEAKER_07]: The Panthers are now no longer notorious for paying the player the most money, but they get a guy that they need to build around and potentially have, I think it's really great contract when I look at it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't have a way out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you know what, telling you to your point.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That salary cap.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not done going through the roof do and a couple years.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I believe it's in twenty thirty or around there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All the TV contract show up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So there's going to be even more TV deals that are going to be worth even more money.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And NFL is king.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Everyone watches NFL football here in America.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's not going on by any time soon.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You're going to blank your eye and it's going to be over four hundred million dollars.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Wow.
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[SPEAKER_07]: That is a bold jump right there.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I wonder, I think about this.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Why do I love the NFL so much?
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[SPEAKER_07]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I mean, yeah, the product, the game, right itself is important, right?
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[SPEAKER_07]: It's a, I like, I call it's a fast slogan, right?
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[SPEAKER_07]: Like the plays are the best, you know, but you, it's not like, which I love hockey.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I don't really love the NBA in a sense, but like the clock's always running in those sports.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_07]: There's no break.
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[SPEAKER_07]: It will maybe not in the NBA.
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[SPEAKER_07]: There's so many breaks to it in the game.
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[SPEAKER_07]: But in hockey, they just keep playing.
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[SPEAKER_07]: They keep changing lines.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Like you can look away and say, hey, hand me my drink and miss everything in hockey game.
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[SPEAKER_07]: With the NFL game, you're like, all right, I got to watch this play.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Then I get eight seconds, right?
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[SPEAKER_07]: Like you can, it's fast, but it's not like baseball slow or golf slow or something.
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[SPEAKER_07]: It's a fast-paced game.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I really think, I don't know if the NFL may be threatening this with me personally.
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[SPEAKER_07]: is if you keep adding games at what point does I don't think you can have too many games about hit this but I don't like about like I love baseball the sport of the cubs I love hockey just as a as a sport my whole life but there's too many I think games to be a fan
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the games in the NFL are more common to control.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because there's not as many of them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know how many games they play in hockey during the year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so right now we're, well, we get seventeen or eighteen, seventeen.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, right now we're at seventeen, do even if we opt another three games per season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's still dramatically less than all of the other major sports.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Still, you know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, one hundred percent.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Every single one of those games means even more their consequential.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think that's why it raises the adrenaline levels a little bit because you have so much to lose and so fewer games relatively.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that benefits the NFL and it also helps that once you have that off season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now look at this now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're craving football.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's right around the corner and, you know, we're in a blank and it's going to be November and we're going to be staring down the end of the season.
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[SPEAKER_07]: CK, your thoughts on the number of games and then the other is what point, how does the, well, good.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Your thoughts on the games and how NFL has been the dominant sport.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I agree with Cody.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So I'll bring it back to gaming as an example.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So there's a lot of people who like the NBA and I would put, you know, I don't know if anybody plays Call of Duty in here but Call of Duty when it first hit the scene it was like it was multiplayer and multiplayer was like you were playing, you know, small games they were just not very it was just
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[SPEAKER_05]: fun.
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[SPEAKER_05]: You were just trying to compete against one another, but there was really nothing to lose, right, with those games.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And as you start to increase, you start to get to a point where you go from these little games that are ten, fifteen minute long games to forty five minute long Battle Royale matches.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Because when you're talking about winning a Battle Royale match, there is a lot more at stake by the time you just invested forty minutes of your time into this one match.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And if you're going to be able to win it, like if you lose, you feel like you've just wasted that time.
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[SPEAKER_05]: We've got to run it back.
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[SPEAKER_07]: We're going to run it back and then we're going to be up until two a. Right.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And so I think it I would put the same kind of, you know, it was when I was.
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[SPEAKER_05]: When you play a game like that or when you watch the you know your team playing in the NFL game the Cody's point it's so impactful having the game the season as short as it is that it is almost invigorating it's just like you can
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[SPEAKER_05]: They talk about when you're watching football as a as a die hard fan.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It's the equivalent of a thirty minute workout because you're you're your essential nervous system is over over working itself because you're just like your heart pumping.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, how often we get to that last.
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[SPEAKER_05]: two minutes of the game where by seven, they're driving the field.
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[SPEAKER_05]: We have to have a stop from our defense and how our heart is just going absolutely crazy.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know if there's no better feeling to that.
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[SPEAKER_05]: The idea of adding more games.
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[SPEAKER_05]: could bring a delusion to that, you know, a dilute rather that that feeling, a slightly, I don't know if it would be if it was two or three games, if it would be that impactful.
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[SPEAKER_05]: But, you know, it's certainly, I could see an argument against it just based on the, you know, we're kind of our in a sweet spot with the quality of the games that we have.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and even think about the NBA as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I'm not a basketball fan in the slightest, but I know they have a problem with big-time players sitting out games during the middle of the season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you have fans that will pay a money to see the step curry and the bra and James and Donas, and they're not even playing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Whereas in the NFL, the only time you would ever sit your main players is if you're a lot to go to the playoffs and you're trying not to get hurt before the playoffs.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Which that's what the NFL's always trying to avoid is too many weeks where a team has like Locked up the spot.
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[SPEAKER_07]: So imagine if you get to the point is there a point where you add too many so many games that then a team can lock it up two weeks in advance and then like be resting players for two weeks or something like that.
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[SPEAKER_07]: You don't want that.
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[SPEAKER_07]: You want to keep the best players playing.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I don't know if
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[SPEAKER_07]: I don't think there will be a CK.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I think there's a great point to like as there will be a moment where you could add too many games where it becomes they don't become as consequential, right?
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[SPEAKER_07]: Like we can lose a game.
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[SPEAKER_07]: It's not a big deal.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I don't think the NFL's close to that.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I think they could add to three more games as long as you keep it under like say, twenty five in a sense if you've made it the most extreme example.
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[SPEAKER_07]: But say you went to eight to even twenty games.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I think it still makes
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[SPEAKER_07]: each game consequential but with this really comes back to money for the NFL right is that they're trying to maximize revenue so you added another game you add an entire another week of ad revenue another entire week of stadium revenues right so that's why they keep talking about the other way the NFL has continued to expand over what the last thirty years
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[SPEAKER_07]: And they've really been masters and commanders of this and that is dominating the headlines like somehow the NFL.
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[SPEAKER_07]: can dominate the media space and all of this, even when they're not, right?
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[SPEAKER_07]: Like they've done a great job of making the draft is so important and such.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, there's an HTML, the draft, free agency.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_07]: We talk about dead time on this podcast, but the dead time is really like two weeks every week, three weeks at a time.
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[SPEAKER_07]: And maybe two or three spots.
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[SPEAKER_07]: They've done a great job of dominating the media, but CK is going back to that is,
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[SPEAKER_07]: One way to continue expand revenues is to add more games, right?
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[SPEAKER_07]: But what they've really tried to do in the over the past is to get football on Sunday night, Tuesday night, Thursday night, right?
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[SPEAKER_07]: Like this, I think this is where they could potentially threaten me, not me, but like the investment of a fan.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I think what I love about the NFL is it's a reasonable sport to be a fan of.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I can feel like, well, first I do a podcast, but like, I can feel like a great fan of the NFL where I'm watching the NFL in general.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I'm watching my team like crazy, but I can also manage that with my life, right?
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[SPEAKER_07]: Like as I got to watch my own team once a week.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I can pop it and watch, you know, one or two prime time games.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I can spin Sunday watching football.
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[SPEAKER_07]: To me, what would threaten, like, kind of,
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[SPEAKER_07]: That deluding the importance of the NFL would be putting on too many damn nights of the week.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I actually don't want to put it on too many nights a week.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I want to be a fucking father.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Go to work.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Not every day.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Like, oh, man, I'm a hardcore NFL fan.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I got to watch football every single moment of my life.
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[SPEAKER_05]: You're absolutely right, but there's a solution to that and it's not adding more games.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It really isn't and this might not be an overly popular opinion, but I think it might be the best opportunity.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Just add an extra by week.
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[SPEAKER_05]: See the thing.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I love it.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I do love that.
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[SPEAKER_05]: They not even had an extra game.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Add an extra by week because then you're talking about an additional week of TV coverage that you're talking about being able to add to that ad revenue.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Ninety percent of the amount of money that the NFL's making is from the broadcast, right?
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[SPEAKER_05]: The broadcast.
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[SPEAKER_05]: You know, right.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Add in an extra game.
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[SPEAKER_05]: is not going for every team is, yeah, you're talking about state stadium revenue, maybe being higher that point, but you're also going to have to increase the amount of money you're paying the players.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And the offset is probably not really worth it.
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[SPEAKER_05]: If you add an extra by week, you don't have to make an argument.
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[SPEAKER_05]: That's honestly a concession to the NFL players association.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And so that makes you more money as an owner.
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[SPEAKER_05]: as an owner, but it doesn't require you to pay any more to the actual to the players for that to be an increase.
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[SPEAKER_05]: They're real money.
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[SPEAKER_07]: They're real money.
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[SPEAKER_07]: It's an expensive TV.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_05]: You're giving every team two weeks.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And here's the thing.
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[SPEAKER_05]: If you were to do that, you technically could have every team in the NFL play on a Thursday night.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And when you do that, you can hide it's a many buy in those situations as well, you know, or something along those lines, it's it's I think it's very
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[SPEAKER_05]: reasonable to look at this and say, that's a win-win for everybody, and that you get prime time for every single team.
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[SPEAKER_07]: You know, you've got an opportunity to have some fun days, CK, where there's twelve games at one o'clock.
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[SPEAKER_07]: This would try to mean that sometimes.
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[SPEAKER_07]: As you have twelve games at one o'clock, four games at four o'clock, and then the prime time, like you can spread all that TV love and prime time around, like you're saying.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now they're going to streaming as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And there's, you know, now you have to have all of them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You have to pair them out plus and peacock and Netflix.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're all getting there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's so much money to be made, but also let's just speak on how much I love football.
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[SPEAKER_01]: One that only says college football come back and that's exciting.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That feels really consequential, but also like even when the Panthers do have a buy I'm still just as locked in the football Like they're almost it's almost like a breath of fresh air It's not what you're saying.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and that's just out over your own team and their bullshit But then watch a bunch of other really good players that you don't normally have the chance to really hone in on
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[SPEAKER_01]: Every Sunday, football is just different, man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I also believe the physicality of football makes it so much more enjoyable, because they're in a different play.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, but still football compared to fucking basketball, with a flopping like fish.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like the longer it's so annoying, but
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, floppy.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Oh, oh, floppy life.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Oh, floppy life.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I mean, floppy baby running into.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Shout out to the long crews and I'm sure John will give us an update here soon in the cat calls, but the fact that it's so physical and so violent and the first game of the season, you're hitting up losing your best player for the entire year because it's that rough of a sport.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, I think that to me, it's like, I do think that NFL, like, they have a great way of keeping the fan involved, like a fan, a fan of the team, and then also a fan of the league.
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[SPEAKER_07]: And I think we can, I love the double, but the extra by week.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I like that extends the season, but doesn't extend too much.
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[SPEAKER_07]: It gives you the breath opportunity to look around the NFL.
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[SPEAKER_07]: That's a great thing there and it keeps it competitive now All right, I guess we were talking about sauce garden before we go on Cody.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I feel like we should give away the prize back here Every third day of the month we are giving a way a Panthers shawag bag and a lot more to come and I got about
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[SPEAKER_07]: Probably about six, fifteen or sixteen more of these.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I've got a couple of NFL logos that were pulled off.
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[SPEAKER_07]: They're not in the bed in the greatest shape, but these Panther logos right here full size.
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[SPEAKER_07]: The probably about twelve, thirteen inches wide and eight inches tall.
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[SPEAKER_07]: It's a metal logo that was salvaged from Bank of America.
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[SPEAKER_07]: This month, we'll be giving that away with that Humsuitum, Carolina, Sign, and a voice of Panther Nation.
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[SPEAKER_07]: We'll always try to match your T-shirt size if possible, got large and extra large mainly in these.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Every now we got a couple.
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[SPEAKER_07]: You can enter these contests over a three week period of time in a multiple in a variety of ways.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I'm actually going to share maybe this is let's see.
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[SPEAKER_07]: We'll give you guys the show how this works on my and competitions go to competitions.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I'll share this and you guys can see we're about to give one away multiple ways to give
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[SPEAKER_07]: Let's see how do we get to this competition go to competitions active go to competition where are you?
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[SPEAKER_07]: All right, too finished.
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[SPEAKER_07]: All right, here we go.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Thank you here.
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[SPEAKER_07]: We're guys.
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[SPEAKER_07]: This is so exciting right here the way I'm doing this.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I mean, we got a here.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, see.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Click this.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Where are you as gentlemen actions entries?
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[SPEAKER_07]: Can I just hit pick a winner winners?
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[SPEAKER_05]: There you go.
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[SPEAKER_05]: There we go.
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[SPEAKER_05]: You might want to hide.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Does it have an option to hide their information somehow?
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[SPEAKER_07]: I'll pull it down.
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[SPEAKER_07]: But I show you guys.
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[SPEAKER_07]: My whole point was is that I'm not just picking it.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Not draw winner right here.
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[SPEAKER_07]: One winner right here drawn tonight.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Let's see who we got.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Do a drama.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We gotta build up the suspense.
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[SPEAKER_07]: That's great.
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[SPEAKER_07]: That's right there.
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[SPEAKER_07]: The Panthers swag bag goes to Kyle Finney.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I will be emailing you for your mailing information guys.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that's nine one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, shout out Kyle, man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, show this for one awesome great news there Kyle
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[SPEAKER_07]: Good news there.
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[SPEAKER_07]: You have won the second giveaway.
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[SPEAKER_07]: The July giveaway.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Guys, they're going to be planning more.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Up.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Up.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Pull this down.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Stop share.
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[SPEAKER_07]: How do I stop share?
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[SPEAKER_07]: Obviously, we are the best at producing giveaways.
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[SPEAKER_07]: That was so exciting.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I was being sarcastic or not.
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[SPEAKER_07]: That's where they're going to be plenty.
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[SPEAKER_07]: More opportunities to give stuff away, not only will we give it enough stuff away.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Every third Tuesday, Cody, I want to do some different things.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I still have the roar to four T-shirt that we printed.
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[SPEAKER_07]: That was going into the twenty six.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_07]: And where we predicted that the Panthers win a fourth consecutive
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[SPEAKER_01]: And Tony, how about to do the real AP favor?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And everyone in favor remind them how they can enter to win one of these incredible Panther memorabilia baskets.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You have one now.
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[SPEAKER_07]: All right, each month we will be given away a Panthers swag basket, which we'll have some sort of historic memorabilia from Bank of America, stating with some additional things to give away.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I have some cool stuff.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Steven Davis sign picture.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Like we got some signed cards.
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[SPEAKER_07]: You know, little stuff that I've collected over the years, they'll be given away.
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[SPEAKER_07]: We'll put out an entry.
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[SPEAKER_07]: You can do it on Facebook, YouTube, like you will find this.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Like in a sense, the tweet will put the link up in the show throughout the month.
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[SPEAKER_07]: And what it does is it's through, I don't have this link through gleam, right?
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[SPEAKER_07]: So if you look at this tweet right here, and you click this, there's a link that says gleam.io.
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[SPEAKER_07]: what this does is it takes you to this ultimately a giveaway page where you then follow on X you have the opportunity follow on X you follow on you share repost on Twitter each time you do something I think even if you're already following on Twitter you click that and it kind of verifies that you are on Twitter
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[SPEAKER_07]: say it says subscribe to YouTube you click that and it takes you to the YouTube page if you already subscribed it verifies that and then you subscribe if you're not each time you do this on kick you get we do bonus entries in a sense like I give more entries because I'm trying to continue to grow the YouTube channel
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[SPEAKER_07]: And like the most, so you get three entries by going to the YouTube page and subscribing.
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[SPEAKER_07]: We're verifying that.
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[SPEAKER_07]: So if you're a subscriber, you can still enter.
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[SPEAKER_07]: You just go to the page and it says, oh, you subscribed already.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Pope, you get three entries there.
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[SPEAKER_07]: You get three entries through kick.
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[SPEAKER_07]: You get two, you know, one here Facebook.
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[SPEAKER_07]: You do all those steps.
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[SPEAKER_07]: But if you click that link, it gives you the opportunity to do each step.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_07]: So if you just go to the tweet and you hit repost, it doesn't really do it.
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[SPEAKER_07]: It doesn't give you the like you got to do it through there.
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[SPEAKER_07]: It gives you a point to where you can put your email in so we can contact you.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Third Tuesday of each month, we're giving away these gift baskets.
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[SPEAKER_07]: And then I got some ideas throughout the season.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Cody, I still have some of those reward of four.
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[SPEAKER_07]: They're kind of like an error card.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I don't know if you guys remember in baseball.
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[SPEAKER_07]: They would like I was we collected baseball cards and kids that error cards would be worth a lot.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Anyway, like Mark McGuire had like FU on the bottom of his bat and I didn't see it and they printed around the cords and you can see it at the bottom.
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[SPEAKER_07]: It said fuck you on the bottom of his bat.
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[SPEAKER_07]: are just FU and then they take those cards off.
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[SPEAKER_07]: They stop printing them, but if you got one worth a lot of money.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I don't know if the Lord of four is worth a lot of money.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I was thinking we would do something for best color worst color in the post game show throughout the season and worst call goes gets a Lord of four T-shirt maybe or something like that.
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[SPEAKER_07]: All right, thank you.
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[SPEAKER_07]: We'll be giving away another one and August fun stuff ahead.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Cody, what's ahead for the show?
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[SPEAKER_07]: We still got the calls coming in just a couple of minutes, but let's get through another topic before we do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So listen, this is a crazy situation that's brewing which tomorrow is steward.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The Bingo first round draft paint.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's relevant because we have not signed our own school routine yet, but before we get into that, just to kind of brief you on what's going on, the Bengals wanted to put a brand new clause.
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[SPEAKER_01]: in his rookie contract that basically no rookie has ever had the sign before.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It gives a bunch of void users and avoid all the guaranteed money that you would be sent to make.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And now there's rumors and there's more than just rumors that the Bengals first round pick has left their team and went back to practicing with Texas A&M.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Stewart now may not plan the NFL this season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: My return to Texas A&M.
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[SPEAKER_01]: and re-enter the draft in two thousand twenty six.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is being unprecedented situation.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I wonder how much value you should lose by going back to college.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And would it actually benefit him to go back?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Or, you know, this is just a crazy situation.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Be a first round picker or second round picker.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, first round pick.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Seven, seven, eight, ten.
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[SPEAKER_07]: with sauce gardener first or second round.
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[SPEAKER_07]: You're my first.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it was top five thing.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I wonder how much of a actual story this really is.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Like, when we have to, we probably should get maybe somebody Jason from over the cap to come out and talk about this.
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[SPEAKER_07]: But I just happened to have sauce gardener's rookie contract pulled up because we were talking about J.C.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Horn.
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[SPEAKER_07]: So we're obviously what we we talk about as I saw a Houston guy was at Houston player got fully guaranteed.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Did you see that floating around the rookie?
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[SPEAKER_07]: Which one?
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[SPEAKER_07]: I recently saw that I just and maybe it was I didn't click it because anytime I've been so I've actually disappointed in a lot of like the way the internet is like everything is so clickbait even the most reputable yeah sites even like new sites when it came to
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[SPEAKER_07]: What was it?
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[SPEAKER_07]: I saw this story that was covered by, and I don't want to politicize because I don't really give a shit about any, anybody or anything outside of my family and friends and the people on this podcast.
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[SPEAKER_07]: But it was about like the Trump he signed it.
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[SPEAKER_07]: It said Trump raises rates to go to federal parks.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Raise it like you know and like I'm talking in USA today Yeah, all the heavy hitters and I think it was just for like Yeah, I found like it was like and I read it and I was like oh damn No, I mean, there's like in that that I mean, I don't care I mean you cannot like it you could do this I'm just talking about the nature of the way the headline was written
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[SPEAKER_07]: And then it was like the Arizona Sun Sentinel was the only one that was like right increased for non-citizens.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Like they wrote the headline.
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[SPEAKER_07]: But there were like a hundred headlines that were all meant to either make you mad or get you to click.
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[SPEAKER_07]: And they weren't just like from a podcast or like for us or something.
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[SPEAKER_07]: That's like where nobody's trying to get your attention.
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[SPEAKER_07]: We're talking like the New York Times and shit doing this.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_07]: So like I have avoided this.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I want to say that and I think I do this just by nature Houston Texans rookie C contract full C. All right.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Oh, it says this Texans gave a second round rookie a fully guaranteed contract.
43:18
[SPEAKER_07]: So a second round player.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I think first round players generally get the flu.
43:22
[SPEAKER_07]: But why is there this argument go back to the player?
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[SPEAKER_07]: What's his name for?
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's named Shemar.
43:27
[SPEAKER_01]: I was still here, but I was looking at the player that might be here on the list.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because we're going to talk about it with Nick Scortin, who has also yet to sign his deal.
43:38
[SPEAKER_07]: Jane Piggins.
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[SPEAKER_07]: David Higgins gets it.
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[SPEAKER_07]: But the reason I bring this up is like, what is Nick Scorton and them?
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[SPEAKER_07]: What are the problems that they're really having because I'm going to pull up?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Sauce gardeners.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Watch this though.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Uh, wait, that's J.C.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Saw's gardener's con.
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[SPEAKER_07]: This is Saw's gardener's rookie contract.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_07]: And it says this is the contract notes.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I'm odd gardener signed a four year rookie contract with the New York Jets on a twenty twenty two worth thirty three million dollars fully guaranteed.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I'm so thirty three fully guaranteed one two three four I guess there's a way for the team to get out of year four.
44:29
[SPEAKER_07]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_07]: But it seems like this is it's almost impossible.
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[SPEAKER_07]: They would have had thirty million dollars in dead money if they cut him in twenty twenty five.
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[SPEAKER_07]: It almost seems like this is that this contract feels like it's fully guaranteed except for twenty.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Uh, who is that?
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[SPEAKER_07]: Uh, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_07]: And I don't know how like what are they really arguing over?
44:52
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, again, there were provisions in this contract.
44:58
[SPEAKER_01]: that no other rookie had ever signed before.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So they were wanting him to do that.
45:05
[SPEAKER_01]: And then this is an older article that I found about next morning so it's not quite up to date.
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[SPEAKER_01]: essentially it alludes to the fact that it's like a waiting game like all these other second round picks are also waiting the sign that the second third round is normally signed a little bit later as of a month ago there were sixteen of the eighteen second round prospects that remained unsigned
45:36
[SPEAKER_01]: These were a list of some of them, but then shout out to Diesel Skills, who says, yeah, second round pick.
45:42
[SPEAKER_01]: Jaden Higgins got a full and guaranteed contract and messed it up for all the second round picks this year.
45:49
[SPEAKER_01]: So if there's article by Anthony Resurty, it makes it sound like it's a matter of time.
45:54
[SPEAKER_01]: But now they're saying that this Higgins signing might have thrown a wrench into things.
45:59
[SPEAKER_01]: My question for y'all, this is there any thought in your mind that maybe we won't have scored in for the start of the season or even training camp.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I wonder what, no.
46:11
[SPEAKER_07]: I think Aided the Texas really did they just fucking throw a bomb into the NFL or is this kind of the Browns into Sean Watson where it's on one off?
46:23
[SPEAKER_05]: Dude, I think that if I wanted to look at this, I would almost say this is like a huge thin plane chess while he also is playing checkers.
46:34
[SPEAKER_05]: like like they knew that that was going to make everybody else and so all of a sudden all these things like trying to talk or neighbor.
46:41
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, do you know what I mean?
46:42
[SPEAKER_05]: Like they're like, hey, I'll take the cost of this right now because all these other people are not going to be willing to and they're not going to have their second round draft pick to make their teams better at the beginning of the season because all of these guys are going to be holding out.
46:54
[SPEAKER_05]: What is it?
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[SPEAKER_05]: Thirty thirty thirty two have not signed their
46:59
[SPEAKER_07]: That's honestly think is like it's actually we don't really care about the bunny.
47:03
[SPEAKER_07]: It's just we hope that thirty other teams don't have their second round picture sure.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, again, in my wrong and that isn't thirty at a thirty two that have not signed.
47:16
[SPEAKER_07]: That is a lot.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Thirty at a thirty two have of second round picks have it signed is C. K's asking if that's correct.
47:24
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so I mean, this article was like, I couldn't find anything new relating to next quarter, but yeah, this is it said that as of the end of May, sixteen out of eighteen hadn't yet signed and does mention Jaden Higgins, we came to first ever check around, paid the sign, or full the guaranteed
47:45
[SPEAKER_01]: guaranteed contract, the Browns, and linebacker.
47:48
[SPEAKER_01]: Carson's question drew a follow-up with another full-in guaranteed.
47:51
[SPEAKER_01]: So we are in a bit of uncharted territory.
47:55
[SPEAKER_07]: You know, this doesn't really change the amount of money a team gives a player, right?
48:01
[SPEAKER_07]: Adjust is, in some ways, I think this is cool.
48:04
[SPEAKER_07]: Like if you fully guaranteed rookie contracts through certain rounds, right, it makes the draft more consequential.
48:13
[SPEAKER_07]: and makes players want to go into the draft more.
48:16
[SPEAKER_07]: You know what I mean?
48:17
[SPEAKER_07]: Like it makes that that pick, the selection.
48:20
[SPEAKER_07]: Maybe I wonder if it takes away from the elite as of the first round pick, right?
48:25
[SPEAKER_07]: Does the first and second, does the second round pick become more elite if you fully guarantee it?
48:30
[SPEAKER_07]: It's not like
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[SPEAKER_07]: the amount of money that you pay that player is different.
48:36
[SPEAKER_07]: But the long trip, you know, it's a shorter contract for second round players.
48:40
[SPEAKER_07]: I think it's three rather than five.
48:43
[SPEAKER_07]: I really don't have a problem with the fully guaranteed part of a second round nature.
48:49
[SPEAKER_07]: I guess I think it makes your second round pick more meaningful.
48:54
[SPEAKER_07]: And when I say that what it is is how many times do we act like a second round pick
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[SPEAKER_07]: doesn't matter in the past, right?
49:02
[SPEAKER_07]: Like, and we weren't in the draft.
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[SPEAKER_07]: We're like, second round pick, change the team, change the team.
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[SPEAKER_07]: This is going to do it.
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[SPEAKER_07]: But how many fucking second round picks have you missed on where it comes to?
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[SPEAKER_07]: I can't even remember their names.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Like, the last second round pick that I actually remember, uh, Mot was the second round pick.
49:21
[SPEAKER_07]: Love him.
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[SPEAKER_07]: But like, Devon punches.
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[SPEAKER_07]: We thought he was consequent.
49:26
[SPEAKER_07]: What do we have?
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[SPEAKER_07]: Mango bingo.
49:29
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, does any room ever have the mention of DJ Johnson?
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[SPEAKER_07]: Does anybody care about these players?
49:36
[SPEAKER_07]: Does it make maybe potentially the second round more the the importance that we put it on in the draft by making it more financially important to these teams?
49:48
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, I think there's a certain case to that too.
49:51
[SPEAKER_01]: And again, the draft is such a crapshoot.
49:54
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, you don't know if you're going to have, you know, an incredible play like a divante.
49:59
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't know if I believe when the second round, or if you're going to have a Jonathan Mingo.
50:04
[SPEAKER_01]: And then now you hear all about all this stuff with a Quenchon Jenkins, the Browns, Luffy running back.
50:11
[SPEAKER_01]: It was the second round pit.
50:13
[SPEAKER_01]: Now he has an assault charge.
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[SPEAKER_01]: from his girlfriend.
50:17
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's like, dude, I don't know, partly I see the perspective of the players and they're wanting to get paid to, but also there's this notion of you're not playing for your first contract, right?
50:31
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the rookie contract.
50:32
[SPEAKER_01]: That's not when you're gonna make the bulk of your NFL dollars.
50:36
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the second one.
50:38
[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't know.
50:39
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't really know everything that holds up this process.
50:43
[SPEAKER_07]: But you need to make it work.
50:45
[SPEAKER_07]: Like, I mean, yeah, all right.
50:46
[SPEAKER_07]: So if you say you're not making the bulk, you're not getting insanely generational, maybe changing money.
50:52
[SPEAKER_07]: But if you're first round picking, you get thirty million dollars.
50:56
[SPEAKER_07]: That's nothing to sneeze at, right?
50:58
[SPEAKER_07]: If you're a second round picking, you get fifteen.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Say, you know, you've half it.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Say you get fifteen million dollars.
51:05
[SPEAKER_07]: uh... fifteen million dollars these teams uh... kg my boy cab says fully guaranteed contracts for second rounders who might not even start a game as an insane president but what if that's just a fifteen million dollar number right uh... is it like fifteen million dollars for a NFL team is like you know pennies in a sense and i think what you would just say is that for a player gets drafted
51:29
[SPEAKER_07]: in the second round is that it just makes that draft pick.
51:32
[SPEAKER_07]: Matt, you know, is like, we want these team, these players to love the team, to care so much, to go in there and try to make everything.
51:40
[SPEAKER_07]: But imagine if you're drafted in the second round and the team could basically you NFL career could end after one year, you made five million dollars.
51:51
[SPEAKER_07]: By the time these guys take that offensive line out the lunch,
51:56
[SPEAKER_07]: And they do those different things.
51:57
[SPEAKER_07]: They move and buy an apartment.
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[SPEAKER_07]: They've got like two hundred fifty thousand dollars left over if they got cut the next year.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I think it's like it's not sounds crazy, right?
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[SPEAKER_07]: It doesn't sound.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Oh, fully guaranteed.
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[SPEAKER_07]: But what is fully guaranteed if it's fifteen million dollars?
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[SPEAKER_07]: Three years.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Is that really a big deal?
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[SPEAKER_07]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_07]: It's like it does.
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[SPEAKER_07]: It just I think it makes it consequential.
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[SPEAKER_07]: And I almost feel like being drafted in the NFL, especially after the second round.
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[SPEAKER_07]: is almost like a token honor like you're like, I was drafted.
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[SPEAKER_07]: You're like, oh, third round pick.
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[SPEAKER_07]: You really start breaking down the money.
52:33
[SPEAKER_07]: You're right, Cody, you got to play for that.
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[SPEAKER_07]: You better get that second contract.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Real.
52:36
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, that's what I think big of a deal is we think.
52:39
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and like, you know, I love the provider of apprentices you're in meal and
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because he says, yeah, I'm going to make our payment real soon.
52:47
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's what you should do, right?
52:48
[SPEAKER_01]: And then, you know, connecting it to the other story with us paying JC horn.
52:53
[SPEAKER_01]: It's almost benefits you to not be a first round pick sometime.
52:58
[SPEAKER_01]: Sure, in the long run, you're paid more guaranteed money right away if you're a first round pick.
53:03
[SPEAKER_13]: If it does work out, right?
53:05
[SPEAKER_01]: But if you're a second or third round pick,
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you're ball the fuck out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You're gonna pay even earlier than some of those first round picks on the time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't know, man, it just depends on what talent you gotta fuck it make you.
53:19
[SPEAKER_01]: You do the princely thing and you break the bank.
53:26
[SPEAKER_07]: That's what he's going to have to do, Cody, though, right?
53:29
[SPEAKER_07]: Like, as a third round pick, yeah, he's going to get enough of some money that's going to be significant, right?
53:34
[SPEAKER_07]: Like, I mean, he's definitely making more money than anybody on this podcast.
53:38
[SPEAKER_07]: It's going to, like, you, it is in a sense of life changing injection of capital.
53:43
[SPEAKER_07]: But he is not walking away like like any like these big ballers right away.
53:51
[SPEAKER_07]: He's got to go and make it and he said this is that he's going to go and take David Tepper to the bank.
53:59
[SPEAKER_07]: The numbers two five two two two eight fifty ninety eight.
54:02
[SPEAKER_07]: Do we have anything more to talk about on this subject or should we take a couple of calls?
54:07
[SPEAKER_01]: No, let's take a couple of calls.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_07]: You guys get in the cat calls line.
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[SPEAKER_07]: The numbers two, five, two, two, two, eight, fifty, ninety, eight.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Let's hit them up, Cody.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So what do your thoughts on cat calling?
54:16
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, that's pretty shitty.
54:16
[SPEAKER_05]: Shouldn't do that, somebody.
54:17
[SPEAKER_05]: And how did that make you feel?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Very uncomfortable.
54:20
[SPEAKER_05]: How do you think cat calling makes the person feel?
54:23
[SPEAKER_03]: It feels good like three and a quarter.
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[SPEAKER_10]: We get.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, we're starting.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, we're starting.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Maybe this is easy really deep.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, we're starting.
54:56
[SPEAKER_11]: The sun's blue throwing.
54:58
[SPEAKER_11]: Excel was our problem.
55:00
[SPEAKER_11]: Yes, and one thing I want to say, people always mention how I'm listening to get a free safety, free safety, but the scheme that
55:12
[SPEAKER_11]: Ever I want to run is it's two safety's not free horse or strong and they just move around from strong to three whenever the play calls for it.
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[SPEAKER_11]: So let's just say offence of play calls.
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[SPEAKER_11]: It's audible.
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[SPEAKER_11]: And so the defense can audible as well.
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[SPEAKER_11]: And so you can have the free go to strong and the stronger free.
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[SPEAKER_11]: And that's why they brought in morgue and ran some to they can both play both.
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[SPEAKER_11]: So yeah.
55:42
[SPEAKER_01]: That's a good point.
55:44
[SPEAKER_01]: I think they like that position, versatility.
55:47
[SPEAKER_07]: uh... you got to have position virtually i wonder is like is uh... i guess this question is is the free the true free safety uh... what is this tell us about the panthers in the direction way they see a defense going is a true free safety which is the thin fast guy that's playing uh... like the backfield in a sense playing deep against the wall in baseball deep center field in a sense is that
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[SPEAKER_07]: Um, a liability a little bit because you want them to get a little bit more involved earlier.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Um, and the other hand, on the other hand, as we know that the game has moved to such an offensive.
56:29
[SPEAKER_07]: Juggernaut, right?
56:30
[SPEAKER_07]: It's like, you got to deal with Tyre kills.
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[SPEAKER_07]: You got to deal with these downfield threats.
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[SPEAKER_07]: These big plays.
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[SPEAKER_07]: So like,
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[SPEAKER_07]: You want to have position versatility, but the game has moved to such an explosive nature.
56:43
[SPEAKER_07]: You really need that back-back field guy.
56:46
[SPEAKER_07]: Obviously, you want people that can do both.
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[SPEAKER_07]: The Panthers, though, I think.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I don't think they had the luxury CK of looking at the safety position of a guy that we could use a guy that just sits back there.
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[SPEAKER_07]: And Hawks and goes is that the run defense was so poor.
57:06
[SPEAKER_07]: They needed guys that can be involved in the past defense obviously because they're a safety, you know, but it's all heads on deck and fixing this run defense.
57:16
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I mean, it's again, it's up in it should have been as it came into the the off season.
57:22
[SPEAKER_05]: Most people didn't want to take a wide receiver and number one, you know, in their first round because we needed to fix this defense.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So, yeah, I mean, I agree.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I think that, you know, we still probably have some work to do on the defense because, you know, we're not, we can't be naive and assume that we hit on every single person that we decided to bring in legitimately, we can.
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[SPEAKER_05]: we can't we are not even every year is like fans are like, oh, we can't run smoke and that hope be optimistic and being naive or two separate writings.
57:59
[SPEAKER_05]: You know, we are hopeful that what we have done is good enough to make this team better on defense.
58:06
[SPEAKER_05]: We are not naive and assuming every move they made is going to be considered an A plus by the end of the year.
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[SPEAKER_05]: If that were the case, I mean, I'm not sure that there's a team bat in the thousand on that at all.
58:21
[SPEAKER_05]: You know, there's some guys who probably get close, but I can tell you that there's probably not a team that consistently can hit on every decision they make in the off season, because every person on that team would be gone to another team to GM and other squad because of the amount of success that they're having.
58:38
[SPEAKER_05]: Like we could talk about the chiefs if we want to, but I can't remember the last time outside of Brent Tillis coming here and it's not even for a GM role, but I can't remember the last time anybody, you know, went and tapped them for a GM guy coming from Kansas City to be a GM.
58:59
[SPEAKER_07]: The draft is so consequential and consequential.
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[SPEAKER_07]: It can have to continue to build.
59:09
[SPEAKER_07]: There's seven rounds of the draft.
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[SPEAKER_07]: uh, the Panthers have never had an incredible draft.
59:15
[SPEAKER_07]: Right.
59:16
[SPEAKER_07]: I don't know is like we can send you back in the Saints.
59:19
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, every year we take we have one.
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[SPEAKER_05]: No, no.
59:22
[SPEAKER_05]: I think we thought we had one the year that we had Jeremy Chen, uh, almost, you know, in the crowd defensive potential defensive player of the year or different.
59:32
[SPEAKER_07]: We were all here in the players, yeah.
59:34
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And, and it felt like, you know, okay, we maybe we have the pieces here.
59:39
[SPEAKER_05]: Um, because was that the year we went burns as well.
59:44
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, no, that was that year.
59:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, no, that year, we're drafted with twenty twenty.
59:49
[SPEAKER_01]: We're drafted direct brown.
59:51
[SPEAKER_01]: We're drafted, uh, your turn horse models.
59:54
[SPEAKER_01]: Jeremy Chen.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And Brown, well, he didn't light it up.
1:00:00
[SPEAKER_05]: I think we all still saw a lot of, you know, uh, shot like a lot of positive from his game that person.
1:00:07
[SPEAKER_07]: People talk to sit about that Brown has first year.
1:00:10
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, but we like we weren't nobody could ever really point to the reason that they were talking crap outside of the fact that he wasn't getting sex and like yeah, that was the whole thing is that it was a defensive tack when you can't hard to see the fact it's like draft in a big garden and making a strong difference, but you're not like, oh, we all the sudden one games because it or got picks or sex or things like this
1:00:32
[SPEAKER_07]: They'll get the only, and we've done this several times around draft years, like go back and try to find the Panthers best draft.
1:00:42
[SPEAKER_07]: The one that is probably in my mind that is the best draft happened because somebody got sick and like had ultimately the flu, which then they thought was a heart problem where we got Star Latula, who fell from the top, like a top three pick to the Panthers at nine, then you got KK,
1:01:02
[SPEAKER_07]: the twenty fifteen draft after the twenty fifteen season people went regretted that is uh... which i actually have a signed picture i was gonna do it a giveaway i was going through because i moved out look through all you know i've been unpacking all this stuff that i have and uh... and my girlfriend said uh... you want to give this up put this in the giveaway i said no i'm the only person that wants that it was a sign picture been i've been wickery
1:01:30
[SPEAKER_07]: sticky wiki, which I like, which everybody should on, but you had a couple of players that came out like that were important, but then, and retrospect, they didn't make a long-term difference.
1:01:40
[SPEAKER_07]: The Panthers have not had real games.
1:01:43
[SPEAKER_07]: Like, what you need, I think, is like, what's the number?
1:01:47
[SPEAKER_07]: I think two makes a good draft.
1:01:50
[SPEAKER_07]: If you have two players out of draft that become mainstays on your team, it's a good draft.
1:01:58
[SPEAKER_07]: If you hit three, that's a great draft, like three out of seven.
1:02:03
[SPEAKER_07]: If you can get that, that's a great draft.
1:02:07
[SPEAKER_07]: I'm sitting here going, you got seven picks, guys, or six picks.
1:02:12
[SPEAKER_07]: And I want two out of six to be on the team in three years.
1:02:17
[SPEAKER_07]: And that's a good draft for me.
1:02:19
[SPEAKER_07]: But we haven't, we need a great draft dude.
1:02:22
[SPEAKER_01]: And by the way, you see all of the better teams in the NFL, they do this.
1:02:26
[SPEAKER_01]: The Ravens have had multiple drafts, where up and down from top to bottom, they have a good players that they draft.
1:02:33
[SPEAKER_01]: The Philadelphia Eagles have done this recently as well.
1:02:37
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I know we all mentioned that, two thousand, seventeen drafts, that the New Orleans same side, which had, if I'm tomorrow, we'll talk about later, Ryan Ramchek.
1:02:48
[SPEAKER_01]: the corner that just left them up against the name of the top of my head.
1:02:51
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, we have to have a draft like that sometime soon.
1:02:57
[SPEAKER_01]: And then the panthers could be at the top of the division, maybe even the NFC, as optimistic as that might sound, you realize the Texans and the commanders have done that subsequent years in a row.
1:03:10
[SPEAKER_01]: It shouldn't take a time to turn this team around, to be their driver now, we just have to draft correctly.
1:03:19
[SPEAKER_07]: But that's not easy, Cody, in turn.
1:03:21
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
1:03:23
[SPEAKER_07]: But it's not impossible.
1:03:24
[SPEAKER_07]: I mean, think about this is that out of all the drafts that we've had, just I mean, off the top of your head, where you have two players, more than you have two players that make a long-term impact on your team.
1:03:39
[SPEAKER_07]: Like an impact, like you mean, and don't give me Brady Christians in, right, because we just argue over him, like two players that become significant to your team.
1:03:51
[SPEAKER_07]: The Panthers, we rested on our loyal laurels as fans with the Marty Hearny, like brain Marty Hearny in here for first round.
1:03:58
[SPEAKER_07]: It's like the Panthers just for a long time just got first round pick done and then couldn't do anything after that.
1:04:05
[SPEAKER_07]: trying to think of who were a pixel last year uh... oh i guess this is oh this is a great time to bring this up john the mingo right uh... no ex-l ex-l was the first round that was the first time we tried it up to i don't know i'm just trying to think i can't think of a year when we still have three players
1:04:26
[SPEAKER_07]: And maybe last year actually will be it.
1:04:28
[SPEAKER_07]: You had first round pick.
1:04:31
[SPEAKER_07]: We had who who was who we picked first last year overall at.
1:04:36
[SPEAKER_01]: That was our.
1:04:37
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
1:04:39
[SPEAKER_07]: So that was our.
1:04:40
[SPEAKER_07]: Oh, good way.
1:04:41
[SPEAKER_01]: Do we trade it up?
1:04:42
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
1:04:42
[SPEAKER_07]: And to the because we traded way for the brides.
1:04:45
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, we were.
1:04:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Because we didn't have a first round because of Bryce and that trade.
1:04:50
[SPEAKER_01]: That makes it.
1:04:51
[SPEAKER_07]: If a cool who were getting the second round.
1:04:55
[SPEAKER_01]: Second round.
1:04:57
[SPEAKER_01]: Got one of my class.
1:04:58
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
1:05:00
[SPEAKER_07]: I'm in a super.
1:05:01
[SPEAKER_07]: Like I'm in a brain fort here.
1:05:02
[SPEAKER_07]: Here we go.
1:05:03
[SPEAKER_07]: Second round.
1:05:05
[SPEAKER_07]: A boy of last year.
1:05:06
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
1:05:07
[SPEAKER_07]: It was Jonathan Brooks.
1:05:09
[SPEAKER_07]: Ooh.
1:05:10
[SPEAKER_07]: So like right away, we're at a failed draft.
1:05:15
[SPEAKER_05]: Certainly would be an argument that it was a failed draft.
1:05:19
[SPEAKER_07]: Um, okay.
1:05:19
[SPEAKER_07]: We'll save this.
1:05:20
[SPEAKER_07]: I saw something where we'll take another call.
1:05:24
[SPEAKER_07]: I want to come back to Excel and everything.
1:05:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Jonathan, Xavier, look at Jonathan Brooks, Trevor and Waldas, Jetevi on Sanders, Charles Smith, wait.
1:05:33
[SPEAKER_01]: That's another thing.
1:05:35
[SPEAKER_07]: have a had a good judge when I'm saying that should be a great.
1:05:38
[SPEAKER_01]: The painting upon what those guys do for the rest of their career.
1:05:43
[SPEAKER_01]: I know there's a lot of high expectations for traveling wallets at linebacker this year.
1:05:49
[SPEAKER_01]: I know.
1:05:54
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and Charles met the way he even has an opportunity to actually make an impact on the team this year, especially if we don't end up signing another deep into player for the back field before the start of the season.
1:06:07
[SPEAKER_01]: So you never know, man.
1:06:09
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe Dan Morgan is going to be the who bucks the train to start being a consistent character for the Panthers.
1:06:19
[SPEAKER_07]: All right.
1:06:19
[SPEAKER_07]: The numbers two, five, two, two, two, eight, fifty, ninety, eight, we'll take another call.
1:06:25
[SPEAKER_04]: What's happening through this child from Spartan birds?
1:06:28
[SPEAKER_04]: I was just going to ask you guys for a little help here from the time to a panther NSL season that I want to try to get a consensus on these numbers and see if actually go over under.
1:06:43
[SPEAKER_04]: So I got three of them.
1:06:47
[SPEAKER_04]: Bryce Young,
1:06:49
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, two lines.
1:06:50
[SPEAKER_04]: We got passing yards and passing cuts down.
1:06:52
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, this yards are three thousand and the cuts down are seventeen and a half.
1:07:01
[SPEAKER_04]: I think you can go this other thing in a half, but that's it.
1:07:04
[SPEAKER_04]: It's kind of over there now.
1:07:07
[SPEAKER_04]: We'll get hopefully doing a little bit.
1:07:10
[SPEAKER_04]: Hold on to a couple of our ball.
1:07:11
[SPEAKER_04]: One thing is really doable.
1:07:14
[SPEAKER_04]: The other one is Chuba, all he has is rushing our line, nine hundred and fifty rushing yards.
1:07:20
[SPEAKER_04]: Of course, he signed Rico Dowd, Bradford, CN, so I'm not sure how much of a workload he'll, mainly get, for him basically get another thousand yards, he's going to go over.
1:07:32
[SPEAKER_04]: And the last one is, had a rollov, he has two, the city touchdowns four and a half.
1:07:39
[SPEAKER_04]: They're seeding yards, eight hundred.
1:07:42
[SPEAKER_04]: Over.
1:07:43
[SPEAKER_01]: There was a title roll in the middle.
1:07:45
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, there's a lot in this a lot of mouse
1:07:55
[SPEAKER_04]: y'all can help me out.
1:07:57
[SPEAKER_04]: Let me know if y'all think about these lines and I guess I'll bet it.
1:08:01
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm gonna show you how I'm gonna show.
1:08:03
[SPEAKER_07]: Try to get a cap that was bright.
1:08:05
[SPEAKER_01]: So Bryce was over three, yeah, seventeen and a half cuts and over three thousand passing yards.
1:08:12
[SPEAKER_07]: You gotta take both or can we just take one.
1:08:14
[SPEAKER_07]: So like my first question with Bryce is, is do you feel more comfortable taking eighteen, right?
1:08:19
[SPEAKER_07]: You gotta get eighteen to get the over.
1:08:22
[SPEAKER_07]: Right, or over three thousand yards passing.
1:08:26
[SPEAKER_07]: I'll just be like eighteen touchdowns is more comfortable to me than three thousand y'all.
1:08:32
[SPEAKER_07]: I mean, three thousand says if he's not get three thousand yards, we're going to be really pissed.
1:08:37
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's what.
1:08:38
[SPEAKER_01]: And I have that one.
1:08:39
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's not ideal.
1:08:46
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know though, but then again, thinking about yards after the catch, if you have a player that dumps it off and it goes six to something yards, I feel like this offense is built to be a very play action pass, happy offense with a lot of guys that can get yards after the catch.
1:09:06
[SPEAKER_01]: Also considering how much we're going to run the ball,
1:09:09
[SPEAKER_01]: That plays into this too.
1:09:10
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we're looking to be a run heavy football team.
1:09:14
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, sort of like thinking about the Lions did last year and how they were a dominant rushing attack.
1:09:20
[SPEAKER_01]: That could either end up versus numbers.
1:09:23
[SPEAKER_07]: I like touchdowns more than yards there.
1:09:26
[SPEAKER_07]: Right.
1:09:26
[SPEAKER_07]: If he's not going over on both of these, we're going to be disappointed in a lot of ways.
1:09:31
[SPEAKER_07]: Right.
1:09:31
[SPEAKER_07]: Um, but I think touchdowns, and maybe I'm just wrong because like, this seems too easy.
1:09:37
[SPEAKER_07]: Seventeen touchdowns.
1:09:38
[SPEAKER_07]: That's one touchdown again.
1:09:41
[SPEAKER_07]: And then you're running the game as to touchdowns.
1:09:44
[SPEAKER_07]: Like if you walk away, if we walk away from three games this season and Bryce has no touchdowns, I don't care if we win or not, we're gonna be a little bit like, how do you not have a touchdown this game?
1:09:57
[SPEAKER_07]: I would take the over on touchdowns.
1:10:00
[SPEAKER_07]: I would take the over on both, maybe I'm being just optimistic here.
1:10:04
[SPEAKER_07]: But like if he doesn't have eighteen touchdowns in year three, if he is sixteen touchdowns and seventeen interceptions, they're going to be shopping for another quarterback next year.
1:10:18
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
1:10:20
[SPEAKER_01]: Go ahead.
1:10:20
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm going to bring it up to the because I actually have that in the show.
1:10:25
[SPEAKER_07]: See, Kay, your thoughts on Bryce young seven in and a half touchdowns, which one would you if you had if you had a hundred dollars to put down right now, would you put it on the over three thousand yards of the over touchdowns there?
1:10:40
[SPEAKER_07]: I wonder the other?
1:10:41
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, like if you could only do one, or we're going, we're in Vegas as I say, here's a hundred bucks.
1:10:45
[SPEAKER_07]: Do you guys don't want that?
1:10:46
[SPEAKER_05]: Is it only passing touchdowns that it's referring to?
1:10:49
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
1:10:49
[SPEAKER_05]: Is that what it says?
1:10:49
[SPEAKER_05]: Okay.
1:10:50
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I would, I would do touchdowns.
1:10:53
[SPEAKER_07]: I would really, if he doesn't do both, he, okay, we are going to be some pissed off my fuckers.
1:10:58
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, yeah, it's it will be I personally think this is most likely the the easiest bet to you know pull the over on both of them out of any potential you know quarterback in the NFL.
1:11:16
[SPEAKER_05]: They are naturally going to be putting him at a lower number because, you know, he's never surpassed those numbers up to this point.
1:11:23
[SPEAKER_05]: So I think we're going to the only thing that would concern me is the potential of injury or something along those lines that would make that not a good point.
1:11:34
[SPEAKER_05]: You know, outside of that.
1:11:35
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, you're really just betting on him being helped people out the year is really the only thing I think that you have to be concerned about with this full season CK the site of Seventeen games.
1:11:44
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
1:11:45
[SPEAKER_07]: And all right.
1:11:47
[SPEAKER_07]: So if Bryce Young throws three thousand in one yards.
1:11:52
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, eighteen touchdowns and eleven interceptions.
1:11:58
[SPEAKER_07]: I'm still like me.
1:12:01
[SPEAKER_07]: Like, I mean, like, is like, you best damn do that.
1:12:03
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's what I'm saying too, man.
1:12:06
[SPEAKER_01]: We traded too much to go up there and get president.
1:12:10
[SPEAKER_01]: And I had to reload and get the pass, right?
1:12:12
[SPEAKER_01]: But you moved up for the shortest quarterback ever drafted number one.
1:12:18
[SPEAKER_01]: He didn't have the biggest arm out of any of the big four quarterbacks in that draft and then you have people from NFL spin zone writing stuff like this that Bryce out of almost every NFL player in the lead this year has the most on the line.
1:12:34
[SPEAKER_01]: This is after playing terribly for about a year and a half.
1:12:37
[SPEAKER_01]: Bryce Jones really began to put things together in the back half of the twenty twenty four season.
1:12:43
[SPEAKER_01]: But the regime, the drafted down in the first place isn't there now.
1:12:47
[SPEAKER_01]: So there's a ton of pressure on the shoulders to put it all together in twenty twenty five.
1:12:52
[SPEAKER_01]: If not, Panthers, GM Dan Morgan.
1:12:54
[SPEAKER_01]: might be motivated to make a bold move for another quarterback as this roster is actually better than you think.
1:13:01
[SPEAKER_01]: But there is a reason to believe probably something to explode and telling you after every move that we made the past two years in a row, our first round draft pick has been a receiver.
1:13:11
[SPEAKER_01]: They have spent considerable money bolstering the offensive line to the point where we spend more on our offensive line
1:13:19
[SPEAKER_01]: than any other NFL team.
1:13:21
[SPEAKER_01]: You have a tight end just after the another one this year.
1:13:24
[SPEAKER_01]: This offense is set for Bryce Joe to thrive.
1:13:29
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think that it's outside of the rumble possibility that if Bryce does not take a great stride this year, that we should be looking to move on.
1:13:39
[SPEAKER_01]: and to tie it back to the cat call, I believe if he hits the under on both of those, if he doesn't throw for seventeen and a half and doesn't go over three thousand, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
1:13:52
[SPEAKER_01]: Upgrade that position.
1:13:54
[SPEAKER_07]: Those are reasonable numbers.
1:13:55
[SPEAKER_07]: I remember I would kind of be interested in what the over under was for his rookie year.
1:13:59
[SPEAKER_07]: because I remember people being like thirty five hundred yards twenty seven touchdown stuff like this is I don't need him to exceed those numbers insanely like I don't need forty touchdowns but I think if like if you're not getting eighteen touchdowns like what the hell's going on with this offense if you're not getting three thousand yards
1:14:17
[SPEAKER_07]: that what the hell is I can't mean I'm hoping for like a thirty eight fourth that you know four thousand yards twenty three touchdowns would be a great season that's the what the numbers I'm looking for in a sense you know as like and I don't know what the magic number is but those numbers seem very reasonable
1:14:35
[SPEAKER_07]: I don't know if like from a bedding standpoint, if it's a good thing, right?
1:14:39
[SPEAKER_07]: Like I mean, because bedding is different, right?
1:14:43
[SPEAKER_07]: That's reality, but as a fan, that's like the, you damn right, you're gonna get eighteen touchdowns and three thousand yards.
1:14:50
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, better motherfucker, because the next number was what?
1:14:54
[SPEAKER_07]: A thousand for Tuba?
1:14:57
[SPEAKER_01]: I have to go back and believe so.
1:14:59
[SPEAKER_01]: No, I thought it did excel.
1:15:01
[SPEAKER_07]: Well, no, no, the last one was tech.
1:15:05
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
1:15:05
[SPEAKER_07]: All right, let's see.
1:15:06
[SPEAKER_07]: Hold on.
1:15:07
[SPEAKER_07]: Let's see.
1:15:08
[SPEAKER_07]: Maybe.
1:15:10
[SPEAKER_04]: Hold on for a couple more ball.
1:15:12
[SPEAKER_04]: One thing is really doable.
1:15:15
[SPEAKER_04]: The other one is Chuba.
1:15:17
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
1:15:17
[SPEAKER_04]: All you have is rushing our line.
1:15:19
[SPEAKER_04]: Nine hundred and fifty rushing.
1:15:20
[SPEAKER_07]: Nine fifty.
1:15:22
[SPEAKER_07]: I think this is, I would be, this I think is a more risky bet.
1:15:28
[SPEAKER_07]: Right, like I mean, I think you want a thousand yard rusher in Tuba.
1:15:33
[SPEAKER_07]: I think Tuba has shown that he can do that.
1:15:36
[SPEAKER_07]: I don't think the Panthers do right now have positioned themselves to only hand the ball to Tuba Hubbard.
1:15:42
[SPEAKER_07]: So I think he could have an eight hundred yard season and then you get doubtal with six hundred yards and they get at the end.
1:15:50
[SPEAKER_07]: To me, I would be more comfortable putting my money on the price.
1:15:54
[SPEAKER_07]: than the over on Chewba.
1:15:55
[SPEAKER_07]: I mean, nine fifty is like again, he's got to do it one more time.
1:16:00
[SPEAKER_07]: I could have Chewba having a nine hundred yard season and still be happy with the run game.
1:16:06
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm I'm very bullish on Chewba and our rushing entire this year.
1:16:11
[SPEAKER_01]: I really think that we have the potential to be
1:16:15
[SPEAKER_01]: a bad ass running and I think this is going to be a second year in a row, uh, getting over a thousand and then the year before he got nine hundred.
1:16:27
[SPEAKER_01]: So I mean, the dude has been a very productive running back for a long time.
1:16:32
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I mean, I know that he's also splitting carries with Ricardo Donald now, but to me, he's the main back.
1:16:40
[SPEAKER_01]: I believe that there's also a thousand yard back.
1:16:47
[SPEAKER_07]: I would bet my CK will pass it to you.
1:16:50
[SPEAKER_07]: I'm putting the over on both drives on eighteen and three thousand.
1:16:54
[SPEAKER_07]: Maybe it's pride, but that's pride.
1:16:56
[SPEAKER_07]: Fucking with you.
1:16:57
[SPEAKER_07]: Oh, Pope fiction.
1:16:58
[SPEAKER_07]: Rest reference there.
1:17:00
[SPEAKER_07]: I won't say has it to, right?
1:17:03
[SPEAKER_07]: Like I mean,
1:17:04
[SPEAKER_07]: A thousand yard season for a back is not that cool anymore.
1:17:08
[SPEAKER_07]: Back in the day, you would say, oh, a thousand yard rusher, but you've added games to the situation, right?
1:17:14
[SPEAKER_07]: Like you've gone from, you've uped it, what?
1:17:17
[SPEAKER_07]: Fifteen, sixteen, seventeen now.
1:17:19
[SPEAKER_07]: So I mean, look, you're talking about him, hitting what?
1:17:23
[SPEAKER_07]: Sixty.
1:17:24
[SPEAKER_07]: I'll do the math here.
1:17:26
[SPEAKER_07]: CK, your thoughts, would you, if you gave you a hundred bucks, a Tuba Hubbard, over nine, fifty are under.
1:17:35
[SPEAKER_05]: Um, only rushing.
1:17:40
[SPEAKER_05]: I, not that I don't have faith in him.
1:17:47
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm going to go under on this one.
1:17:49
[SPEAKER_07]: I probably would go under it's under for some reason just because like Vegas has a reason for doing stuff.
1:17:58
[SPEAKER_07]: But when you look at what the number is to get a thousand yards as a running bag, he has to get fifty nine yards a game.
1:18:10
[SPEAKER_07]: That's not crazy.
1:18:11
[SPEAKER_07]: It's not, I don't know.
1:18:14
[SPEAKER_07]: Oh, I understand that, but think about this because we go to the last one, which is a thousand yards for a receiver, which would be the same exact number, right?
1:18:25
[SPEAKER_07]: A thousand yard receiving for a receiver, somehow I'm like, oh, I can get this easily.
1:18:33
[SPEAKER_07]: And then somehow, no receiver ever gets over seven hundred yards for the Carolina Panthers.
1:18:39
[SPEAKER_07]: They're averaging what forty yards of fucking game.
1:18:44
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, to me, Rico Dalton, Rico Dalton just doesn't cut into that enough to stop him from getting out of the house.
1:18:51
[SPEAKER_01]: And then I really do think, you know, this is the only part of the team that I'm truly bullish on.
1:18:58
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, when it comes to the passing game and the defense, I want to see it before I start giving a bunch of accolades, but I think based on what we know the running game to be and who we know are running backs to be.
1:19:11
[SPEAKER_01]: I think there is a really good chance to progress for a thousand and not as good a chance but still a really good chance that Rico Dowdo could also get into that age of fifty plus.
1:19:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
1:19:28
[SPEAKER_01]: We haven't really had that sense.
1:19:29
[SPEAKER_01]: Dan's little volumes of John Stewart were burning shit up, but I'm okay with the over's on price.
1:19:37
[SPEAKER_07]: I'm actually okay if we said, look, it's true, but like he should get over nine, fifty, right?
1:19:42
[SPEAKER_07]: But somehow when we talk about betting or whatever, I'm like, oh, they're sucker at me.
1:19:47
[SPEAKER_07]: They're sucker at me.
1:19:48
[SPEAKER_07]: So maybe they're playing into my psychology.
1:19:50
[SPEAKER_07]: I would feel more comfortable putting that hundred dollar CK on
1:19:55
[SPEAKER_07]: Um, Tuba over.
1:19:56
[SPEAKER_07]: Then the last number, the was, I think the problem, not the problem.
1:20:02
[SPEAKER_07]: It was, I think this is harder.
1:20:05
[SPEAKER_07]: And that is tech with eight hundred receiving yards.
1:20:10
[SPEAKER_07]: And to put a total on here, let's see, we'll listen to the, we got a couple of listens and damn call again.
1:20:16
[SPEAKER_07]: Sorry, I love your call.
1:20:18
[SPEAKER_07]: I don't want to.
1:20:19
[SPEAKER_04]: What's up?
1:20:20
[SPEAKER_07]: Because I should have been right this down.
1:20:21
[SPEAKER_04]: They're receiving yard.
1:20:23
[SPEAKER_04]: Eight hundred.
1:20:24
[SPEAKER_04]: A hundred.
1:20:25
[SPEAKER_04]: That's a go over.
1:20:26
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
1:20:27
[SPEAKER_04]: The last one is Ta-da-Rawa.
1:20:29
[SPEAKER_04]: He has two receiving touchdowns four and a half.
1:20:33
[SPEAKER_04]: They're receiving yard eight hundred over over over.
1:20:36
[SPEAKER_07]: Oh, this is okay.
1:20:37
[SPEAKER_07]: I would almost stay away from tech.
1:20:40
[SPEAKER_01]: So I have said that I'm predicting seven and seven from ten and two thousand twenty five seven.
1:20:49
[SPEAKER_01]: I think more than seven touchdowns because it's such a big budget presence in the in zone and you know even if he's covered it's a jump ball receiver if you put it somewhere near him he's supposed to come down with it.
1:21:04
[SPEAKER_01]: So I think I would go over on the touchdowns.
1:21:09
[SPEAKER_07]: Wow.
1:21:10
[SPEAKER_01]: But because there's so many mouths to feed.
1:21:12
[SPEAKER_01]: Is they really going to get Adam feeling, you know, potentially hunter run for, you know, you have jail and cocair.
1:21:20
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Jimmy horned junior to table on Sanders.
1:21:25
[SPEAKER_07]: I would go for eight cents.
1:21:27
[SPEAKER_01]: I would go under on the passing yards or for tech.
1:21:34
[SPEAKER_07]: Four and a half a reasonable number right what look at had four touchdowns is rookie season.
1:21:41
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, four.
1:21:42
[SPEAKER_07]: It's just significant, you know, maybe they know how to tease us don't they see.
1:21:47
[SPEAKER_07]: Okay.
1:21:48
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, they do I if we're talking about this is a tech set right born out of the four and a half four and a half for a tech and eight hundred yards receiving.
1:21:59
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm going over four and a half for tech.
1:22:02
[SPEAKER_07]: Nice.
1:22:03
[SPEAKER_07]: Good.
1:22:04
[SPEAKER_07]: Significant.
1:22:05
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm going to.
1:22:05
[SPEAKER_07]: I'm going to be realistic.
1:22:07
[SPEAKER_07]: I mean, not realistic.
1:22:08
[SPEAKER_07]: A hundred a big number.
1:22:10
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
1:22:10
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm going under on that.
1:22:11
[SPEAKER_05]: And that's not that's solely because I think that he is going to be a big body in the in the end zone.
1:22:19
[SPEAKER_05]: And I think they're going to be pushing the ball to him a lot in those circumstances.
1:22:24
[SPEAKER_05]: But I don't know that with all of the pieces like Cody alluded to, I don't know that we see him getting
1:22:30
[SPEAKER_05]: Uh, you know, a hundred.
1:22:31
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, you're talking an ADR to game.
1:22:34
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
1:22:34
[SPEAKER_07]: Or no, you're talking sixty yards game actually.
1:22:37
[SPEAKER_07]: That's where you're maybe even less.
1:22:39
[SPEAKER_07]: Seems like he should do that.
1:22:41
[SPEAKER_07]: But the last time, I mean, if you get seven and seven, Cody, we're going to the bar.
1:22:47
[SPEAKER_07]: If Tettman Miller makes seven hundred and seven touchdowns, we're making seven and seven.
1:22:53
[SPEAKER_07]: The official drink of the C. Three Panthers podcast.
1:22:57
[SPEAKER_07]: Let's go to the next go.
1:22:59
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
1:22:59
[SPEAKER_02]: Hey guys, don't be sick in here, call me.
1:23:01
[SPEAKER_07]: But I'm John B. It's been a long time.
1:23:03
[SPEAKER_02]: It's been a long week for all the problems.
1:23:05
[SPEAKER_02]: And there's always having to start off with an update on the grip feeling, fall and it's been a year.
1:23:10
[SPEAKER_02]: We're staying for teams in that league.
1:23:12
[SPEAKER_02]: The Panthers are off.
1:23:13
[SPEAKER_02]: So the Panthers found themselves in a win-call.
1:23:15
[SPEAKER_02]: And again, this weekend, they are at five and three from the year.
1:23:20
[SPEAKER_02]: They finally beat a team of the winning records.
1:23:23
[SPEAKER_02]: They beat the prog Lions, forty-one to thirty-eight.
1:23:26
[SPEAKER_02]: This was a bad nervous game.
1:23:28
[SPEAKER_02]: This was
1:23:29
[SPEAKER_02]: First of all, overall, the most exciting we can in DLS history in the five years that I've been watching with Lee.
1:23:35
[SPEAKER_02]: But this game in particular, we went up two scores.
1:23:39
[SPEAKER_02]: Then they went up two scores and then we came back to win it at the M-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-
1:23:59
[SPEAKER_02]: But more importantly, you do have thirteen rushes for a hundred and fifty-three yards and two touchdowns on the ground.
1:24:05
[SPEAKER_02]: No, I say I was exactly the leading rusher in the entire league of entire European League of football.
1:24:12
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's our quarterback, y'all.
1:24:14
[SPEAKER_02]: I said it in a seven-for-all day, again, this guy watches him play the game, reminds me of the young team, and it's to go on to use to check out those pilots.
1:24:21
[SPEAKER_02]: Now, I'm moving down south to Mexico, and a lot of these, and they perform their autonocrocession, y'all.
1:24:31
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, did you, uh, we can't hear you telling you all the call.
1:24:35
[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, guys.
1:24:37
[SPEAKER_07]: I was trying to text and it ruined the country.
1:24:40
[SPEAKER_02]: You think the pressure in the entire week of, in terms of killing the football?
1:24:45
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's our quarterback, y'all.
1:24:46
[SPEAKER_02]: I said it before I'll say it again this time, watching them play the game reminds me of the young candidates to go on YouTube and check out those highlights.
1:24:54
[SPEAKER_02]: Now, I'm moving down south to Mexico and I was eating a day football in there.
1:24:57
[SPEAKER_02]: I kind of obsessed, you know.
1:24:59
[SPEAKER_02]: They just wrapped up the Tezoro Mexico Ocho, which was the Mexico Ball A. Our also stay in Monterey found themselves fire facing off against the Mexico City.
1:25:12
[SPEAKER_02]: It was a low scoring defense of game defense when scavenged it.
1:25:16
[SPEAKER_02]: Unfortunately, we came up short.
1:25:18
[SPEAKER_02]: It was thirteen to twelve.
1:25:20
[SPEAKER_02]: We scored first and we had a chance actually one at a time with a field goal.
1:25:24
[SPEAKER_02]: They iced our kicker.
1:25:26
[SPEAKER_02]: And then when they re-attempted the field goal to try, they ended up blocking the key I can hold on.
1:25:30
[SPEAKER_02]: So that's the last update for this Mexican season.
1:25:34
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll catch up on that next year.
1:25:36
[SPEAKER_02]: And then move it over back up north to the arena Lee.
1:25:39
[SPEAKER_02]: Guys, you got to check it out.
1:25:40
[SPEAKER_02]: Our monkeys got another win with our new quarterback Tyler.
1:25:43
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's go fish.
1:25:44
[SPEAKER_02]: A.K.A.
1:25:45
[SPEAKER_02]: Colta, Mania.
1:25:46
[SPEAKER_02]: You want to check out the highlights on YouTube.
1:25:49
[SPEAKER_02]: And then one more funny note about
1:25:51
[SPEAKER_02]: This leads, they don't have kickers in the way they kick the ball off, it's actually by scrolling the ball off.
1:25:57
[SPEAKER_02]: So you got to stand in the back of the engine, ball has to get at least forty yards per cent.
1:26:01
[SPEAKER_02]: And so they don't have the regular quarterback to do that.
1:26:03
[SPEAKER_02]: What they do is they have a throw off specialist, an hour throw off specialist is none other than Tom Brothers.
1:26:09
[SPEAKER_02]: What a name.
1:26:10
[SPEAKER_02]: Tom Brothers, all I've got for today's update, as always, he's got a lot of pants, he's got a lot of pants, he's got a lot of pants, he's got a lot of pants.
1:26:18
[SPEAKER_07]: Go fish.
1:26:19
[SPEAKER_01]: Go fish.
1:26:21
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, shout out to them, man.
1:26:22
[SPEAKER_01]: Panters rush like I got a badass quarterback.
1:26:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Sounds like.
1:26:27
[SPEAKER_01]: We might need him if Bryce doesn't, it's over on those numbers.
1:26:33
[SPEAKER_07]: I want you guys to be thinking about this.
1:26:35
[SPEAKER_07]: Is there a way that we can, I want to say crowdsource the bets, right?
1:26:40
[SPEAKER_07]: That's not it.
1:26:41
[SPEAKER_07]: It's like, what if we did, what if we said this is the three bets, what, or actually it was five bets, I think, because it was over under on passing yards, Chuba, and then receiving and touchdowns, it's five bets.
1:26:58
[SPEAKER_07]: Well, if we said we're going to put two hundred dollars down as a podcast or now two fifty fifty fifty we did something like if we got in like the week before.
1:27:08
[SPEAKER_07]: Started we just got.
1:27:11
[SPEAKER_07]: Twenty superchets now matter the monetary right like whatever somebody we just said we want twenty superchets.
1:27:18
[SPEAKER_07]: and we'll put down, we're betting all of these joins.
1:27:21
[SPEAKER_07]: So basically, you could do, like you could have twenty two dollar super jets.
1:27:25
[SPEAKER_07]: And I'm saying, as a podcast, we're gonna put the money down.
1:27:31
[SPEAKER_07]: Or do we need to get twenty?
1:27:34
[SPEAKER_07]: I mean, like, what can we get?
1:27:35
[SPEAKER_07]: I almost want, like,
1:27:38
[SPEAKER_07]: a thousand subscribers, but that's impossible.
1:27:40
[SPEAKER_07]: It feels like, I don't know.
1:27:42
[SPEAKER_07]: We're gonna put some money.
1:27:44
[SPEAKER_07]: We need to put our money where a mouth is as a podcast.
1:27:47
[SPEAKER_07]: You guys give us your ideas of how we could actually do that and make Game of Fight.
1:27:54
[SPEAKER_07]: Game of Fight as we go.
1:27:56
[SPEAKER_07]: The numbers two, five, two, two, two, eight, fifty, ninety eight.
1:28:00
[SPEAKER_07]: I think that was John B. Let's go to, I think the hope deal.
1:28:07
[SPEAKER_03]: Tony Dunne, Cody Latte, the C-III Legion.
1:28:11
[SPEAKER_03]: What up?
1:28:11
[SPEAKER_03]: I hope you'll check in and real quick.
1:28:15
[SPEAKER_03]: Hey, I was just sitting there thinking, you know, in twenty-fifth team when we had our Super Bowl run.
1:28:22
[SPEAKER_03]: My kids were eleven, eight, five, and three years old.
1:28:27
[SPEAKER_03]: My man, eleven, eight, five, and three.
1:28:30
[SPEAKER_03]: My kids from now, twenty-one, eighteen, fifteen, and thirteen.
1:28:36
[SPEAKER_03]: Why do I bring this up?
1:28:39
[SPEAKER_03]: My wife and I will come right about our four kids and how they've never witnessed real winning Panther football.
1:28:48
[SPEAKER_03]: They've never witnessed back to back winning seasons.
1:28:50
[SPEAKER_03]: And every year when training camp is on their rise and I start getting excited with the preseason and everything.
1:28:59
[SPEAKER_03]: And my kids, you know, they asked me, then what did you do this?
1:29:02
[SPEAKER_07]: Yes.
1:29:03
[SPEAKER_07]: Oh, why did you get this or my children?
1:29:04
[SPEAKER_03]: Why did you get all about up?
1:29:07
[SPEAKER_03]: And you know, you get sold hope.
1:29:09
[SPEAKER_03]: You supposed to be the hope, Della.
1:29:11
[SPEAKER_03]: You get sold hope.
1:29:12
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, the NFL is great about selling hope that it can't deliver on.
1:29:17
[SPEAKER_03]: And my answer to my kids is always, I don't know kids.
1:29:21
[SPEAKER_03]: I can't explain it.
1:29:23
[SPEAKER_03]: But they'll don't understand.
1:29:24
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, it's like their own name.
1:29:30
[SPEAKER_03]: I appreciate it.
1:29:32
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm just hoping y'all would already.
1:29:34
[SPEAKER_03]: I can look at my kids in the face this year and say kids we don't do it.
1:29:41
[SPEAKER_03]: We don't make the playoffs again.
1:29:44
[SPEAKER_06]: Great.
1:29:47
[SPEAKER_03]: Much love to everybody keep.
1:29:49
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, dear.
1:29:50
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm hoping that the end of the year you can show the final record that the Panthers accomplish during the record season or during the season to your son and be like, this is why.
1:30:03
[SPEAKER_01]: This is why we do it.
1:30:06
[SPEAKER_01]: You got to go through the hard times in order to enjoy the good ones.
1:30:10
[SPEAKER_07]: I feel like.
1:30:13
[SPEAKER_07]: You whatever season we have unless it ends in a super bowl this year you can't say that go to I get the end of the year not going back to your kids we go ten and seven you're like this is why we do it.
1:30:27
[SPEAKER_07]: I'm telling you this is that call.
1:30:31
[SPEAKER_07]: First wonderful call always a great color that hit hard and hard.
1:30:35
[SPEAKER_07]: I also said fucking kids in the middle of the call and I have three kids.
1:30:40
[SPEAKER_07]: I love my kids.
1:30:40
[SPEAKER_07]: Don't worry.
1:30:41
[SPEAKER_07]: My sister has four kids.
1:30:42
[SPEAKER_07]: I get right now I'm in the struggle of not struggle.
1:30:46
[SPEAKER_07]: I love my kids.
1:30:48
[SPEAKER_07]: Who doesn't?
1:30:48
[SPEAKER_07]: You know, I was to mean I don't want you to clap about me loving my kids.
1:30:53
[SPEAKER_07]: But being a parent is tough.
1:30:55
[SPEAKER_07]: It's tough.
1:30:55
[SPEAKER_07]: Like you're juggling your life, their life.
1:30:58
[SPEAKER_07]: You're like always trying to be a good parent.
1:31:00
[SPEAKER_07]: You put so much pressure on yourself to be a good parent.
1:31:02
[SPEAKER_07]: Like you're like, oh, I made one mistake in my bad.
1:31:05
[SPEAKER_07]: But you're like, all this stuff is difficult.
1:31:09
[SPEAKER_07]: And just to my season in my life, you know, things have changed and stuff.
1:31:14
[SPEAKER_07]: And you're like continuing to reevaluate that.
1:31:18
[SPEAKER_07]: And parenting is relentless too.
1:31:22
[SPEAKER_07]: And that's what I'm like a man of season where I'm trying to establish like a new culture basically that's wild is that I just use a football reference for my family.
1:31:31
[SPEAKER_07]: I'm trying to establish a new culture right and like he's like all I feel like he's like he's like he's like
1:31:37
[SPEAKER_07]: You just gotta be kidding you.
1:31:38
[SPEAKER_07]: I don't know what the answer to a pair of her but like it sucks like consistency is like it's easier to just be nice and do whatever and tell your kids it's also tell you this and like you're always I'm worried about being like I feel like a bad guy all the time and not a bad guy.
1:31:55
[SPEAKER_07]: It's just like picking up your shoes and like oh it's just a cup that it's just this and like you have to always
1:32:03
[SPEAKER_07]: It's stressful, my man.
1:32:05
[SPEAKER_07]: When you go through that, what he said, twenty-one, right, my kids are going to take their ages.
1:32:10
[SPEAKER_07]: And I just have the other thing that's really difficult, especially, and it's hard for people to understand this, that only have a hobby, baby, and one, baby.
1:32:19
[SPEAKER_07]: CK, you're at two, right?
1:32:21
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
1:32:22
[SPEAKER_07]: Do not go more.
1:32:23
[SPEAKER_07]: I'm not good.
1:32:25
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, one baby is a hobby baby bro as long as they don't help this joke hits this joke hits everywhere, but I learn not to make it I always say somebody says I say how many kids you got and I got one and then I learn that you make this joke you have to ask one question before you make it you're like do they have health issues?
1:32:45
[SPEAKER_07]: Because if they're like, oh, my kid is got all this shit going.
1:32:50
[SPEAKER_07]: This joke does not hit.
1:32:52
[SPEAKER_07]: If they have a bunch of stuff going on, right?
1:32:55
[SPEAKER_07]: But like if that kid is healthy and you are a two parent family and you got one kid, that's a hobby, bitch.
1:33:02
[SPEAKER_07]: Like I could put that kid on my back and do heart surgery.
1:33:06
[SPEAKER_07]: Right, like is that when you do this and this is where C.K.
1:33:09
[SPEAKER_07]: I'm telling you, man, two kids, two healthy kids, two parents together working in the same direction, sweet spot.
1:33:18
[SPEAKER_07]: And I feel like this is like, oh, we're super parents.
1:33:21
[SPEAKER_07]: I'm crushing life.
1:33:23
[SPEAKER_07]: I'm doing a pot of like doing all of this.
1:33:25
[SPEAKER_07]: You got life under control.
1:33:27
[SPEAKER_07]: You go to three new game.
1:33:30
[SPEAKER_07]: New game, you go from man to man, you go to zone defense, right?
1:33:35
[SPEAKER_07]: Like it just all of a sudden, you feel like you're super paranoid too.
1:33:38
[SPEAKER_07]: You're surviving, you're like you're just like doing the best you can at three.
1:33:43
[SPEAKER_07]: Maybe, no, maybe you're surviving the four like the hope deal.
1:33:47
[SPEAKER_07]: That's my sister's number, my sister, my little sister.
1:33:51
[SPEAKER_07]: Italian girl sucks to be an Italian girl.
1:33:55
[SPEAKER_07]: We've got to older brother than that family.
1:33:57
[SPEAKER_07]: You don't ever get the credit you deserve for baby.
1:33:59
[SPEAKER_07]: I love you Anna.
1:34:01
[SPEAKER_07]: The best person on that four kids notices eight.
1:34:05
[SPEAKER_07]: It's a bucket that the beautiful, it's a beautiful family.
1:34:08
[SPEAKER_07]: See a wonderful mom.
1:34:10
[SPEAKER_07]: Chaos, though.
1:34:12
[SPEAKER_07]: It's wonderful.
1:34:13
[SPEAKER_07]: It's like beautiful chaos.
1:34:15
[SPEAKER_07]: I always say this is when you got a four kids, you're like, I hope the fourth kid, you're like, I hope you can read your first kid you read to him every night, your second kid, you're like, do a little bit better third kid, you're like, oh, I feel like I'm trying.
1:34:28
[SPEAKER_07]: When you got four kids, that fourth kid, you're like, I hope you make it.
1:34:33
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm the youngest of three.
1:34:35
[SPEAKER_01]: So like, but there's also this notion of the baby of the family.
1:34:40
[SPEAKER_01]: like the baby gets all the good criticism shit and the older kids of this kind of like left a fan.
1:34:45
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know how that's.
1:34:46
[SPEAKER_01]: First is my experience.
1:34:48
[SPEAKER_07]: The book is the first and the last are always the best.
1:34:52
[SPEAKER_07]: The two medals or the medals they never get the credit they deserve.
1:34:56
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
1:34:57
[SPEAKER_07]: But you're just surviving and so back to the call when he's talking about the to relating it to the Panthers.
1:35:05
[SPEAKER_07]: I have seventeen, fourteen and eleven.
1:35:10
[SPEAKER_07]: And I feel like, hey, I mean, maybe kids just don't care.
1:35:13
[SPEAKER_07]: My kids just don't care about me.
1:35:14
[SPEAKER_07]: And I was like, where the, they don't even know what I do.
1:35:17
[SPEAKER_07]: It feels like it's like, I don't even know what my dad does for a living.
1:35:20
[SPEAKER_07]: And I was like, but the idea, they're like, he does a podcast about the Panthers.
1:35:25
[SPEAKER_07]: They're not invested in the Carolina Panthers.
1:35:27
[SPEAKER_07]: They're not at all.
1:35:29
[SPEAKER_07]: And he said, back to back winning seasons.
1:35:32
[SPEAKER_07]: That used to be the mantra CK.
1:35:35
[SPEAKER_07]: No, yeah.
1:35:36
[SPEAKER_07]: We used to say back to back like to relevance right now.
1:35:39
[SPEAKER_07]: We're in what six, seven straight losing seasons.
1:35:44
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, it was it was definitely a focus of ours as Panthers fans that it be that was the the the
1:35:56
[SPEAKER_05]: the measuring stick of back to back winning seasons, being what showed us that we were a contending team and now we're in this weird situation where it's just a winning failure.
1:36:12
[SPEAKER_07]: It's important.
1:36:14
[SPEAKER_05]: Yes, absolutely.
1:36:15
[SPEAKER_05]: A winning season will feel like the soup boy.
1:36:18
[SPEAKER_05]: I think to us next year.
1:36:19
[SPEAKER_07]: We're on my support.
1:36:20
[SPEAKER_07]: There was fans who are already invested.
1:36:23
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, but but like to his kids, the or my kids, right?
1:36:27
[SPEAKER_07]: My kids are not in crazy.
1:36:29
[SPEAKER_07]: I've been taking them to panther stuff their whole life.
1:36:32
[SPEAKER_07]: They didn't care about it when they were young.
1:36:34
[SPEAKER_07]: They didn't get the momentum of winning though.
1:36:37
[SPEAKER_07]: as they hit seven, eight, nine, ten years old, right?
1:36:41
[SPEAKER_07]: And teenagers, like as their teenagers, not only do they not care about what their dad or what dad's the least important man in the world, but the Panthers have been irrelevant for their entire lives.
1:36:55
[SPEAKER_07]: And we used to be able to hang our hats on this as Panther fans.
1:36:58
[SPEAKER_07]: We used to say this is we'd never have back to back when it's, but we have we wanted to vision a couple years, but not back to back when in seasons.
1:37:05
[SPEAKER_07]: We could as Panther fans hang our hat on.
1:37:08
[SPEAKER_07]: We have a short history, but we've had some real successful moments with two Super Bowl appearances, right?
1:37:14
[SPEAKER_07]: Like there's some been some dips, but there have been injections of life.
1:37:19
[SPEAKER_07]: Right now, the dip has been so long.
1:37:23
[SPEAKER_07]: that like these kids don't know anything about even excitement when it comes to this it's like a were cut like the browns in their life and I don't think that just one good year all the sudden changes it the Panthers need a stretch of
1:37:42
[SPEAKER_07]: success.
1:37:43
[SPEAKER_07]: This podcast needs a fuck.
1:37:45
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, remember when we know what we call them to the show and there's been on the free for all fairly recently.
1:37:51
[SPEAKER_07]: You know, we have good memories to hold on to.
1:37:59
[SPEAKER_01]: But we were getting stories from some of these younger fans of the team that was like, they had made fun of for being Panthers fans.
1:38:09
[SPEAKER_01]: Because of how bad they've been.
1:38:11
[SPEAKER_01]: I went out to eat with my mom yesterday.
1:38:14
[SPEAKER_01]: And I was telling a guy about this podcast that I do.
1:38:18
[SPEAKER_01]: And I asked him if he was a Panthers fan.
1:38:21
[SPEAKER_01]: And he's like, I'm trying, man.
1:38:23
[SPEAKER_01]: But they'd trade away all their best players.
1:38:26
[SPEAKER_01]: And it just seems like they take one step forward to take two steps back.
1:38:31
[SPEAKER_01]: Listen, man, winning.
1:38:32
[SPEAKER_01]: This is the cure for everything.
1:38:36
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm telling you, man, if the Panthers can rally off.
1:38:39
[SPEAKER_01]: two good seasons in a row.
1:38:41
[SPEAKER_01]: There's so many, there's so many transplants.
1:38:43
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if that's enough.
1:38:45
[SPEAKER_01]: Other places here in Charlotte, that there are a lot of fair weather fans.
1:38:49
[SPEAKER_01]: If you can actually get some winning here in Charlotte, you're going to convert a lot of people
1:38:56
[SPEAKER_01]: who have left all their places to be fans of the Panthers and at the same time give some of this younger player or younger fans something to hold on to.
1:39:06
[SPEAKER_07]: This is how sad this is, Cody.
1:39:08
[SPEAKER_07]: As you just said, if we get two winning seasons.
1:39:12
[SPEAKER_07]: It changes the thing.
1:39:13
[SPEAKER_07]: Like almost when I asked the hope dealer, I went ask, like, or what would it take for you to all of a sudden care about what your dad, like your dad's team?
1:39:23
[SPEAKER_07]: I don't even know if two, like, what if we just had, what's that nine wins?
1:39:28
[SPEAKER_07]: Like, I'm like, hey, guys, we had two nine wins seasons in a row and my kids.
1:39:36
[SPEAKER_07]: Here, this is why I do it.
1:39:38
[SPEAKER_07]: I don't know.
1:39:39
[SPEAKER_07]: I mean, it feels like we not only need that, we need an injection of real crazy.
1:39:43
[SPEAKER_07]: We need two winning seasons of deep playoff run.
1:39:47
[SPEAKER_07]: It's so bad, CK.
1:39:49
[SPEAKER_07]: I don't even think two winning seasons.
1:39:51
[SPEAKER_07]: All of a sudden, makes kids be like, I love my dad and his team.
1:39:56
[SPEAKER_07]: No, I mean, it's, it would be a deep playoff run.
1:40:05
[SPEAKER_07]: We need like NFC championship and three win in seasons.
1:40:09
[SPEAKER_07]: That's what I need.
1:40:12
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
1:40:15
[SPEAKER_05]: This is this number one.
1:40:17
[SPEAKER_05]: I think we need excitement of any sort.
1:40:20
[SPEAKER_05]: We need a Cam Newton character that's willing to come in and rejuvenate that fan base.
1:40:26
[SPEAKER_05]: I really don't know what else we could do beyond that.
1:40:30
[SPEAKER_05]: But I sincerely think that we need a.
1:40:34
[SPEAKER_05]: So give you some my hopes.
1:40:36
[SPEAKER_05]: My son's not interested in football right now at all.
1:40:39
[SPEAKER_05]: Like he's only interested in soccer and, you know, and all though and all that stuff right and he's there to play soccer or anything.
1:40:45
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't want that.
1:40:46
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't want that.
1:40:46
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't want that.
1:40:47
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't want that.
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1:40:48
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1:40:49
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1:40:50
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1:40:50
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1:40:51
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1:40:53
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1:40:54
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1:40:55
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1:40:56
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1:40:57
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1:40:57
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1:40:58
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1:40:58
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1:40:59
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't want that.
1:41:00
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't want that.
1:41:00
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't want that.
1:41:01
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't want that.
1:41:01
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't want that.
1:41:02
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't want that.
1:41:02
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1:41:03
[SPEAKER_05]: And I want that to be a win to where he walks out and he just sees Panthers fans excited.
1:41:10
[SPEAKER_05]: I go back to win in twenty fifteen.
1:41:14
[SPEAKER_05]: I went to the Monday night game against the colds.
1:41:17
[SPEAKER_05]: And that game.
1:41:19
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, I got a little bit of a pretty humpback.
1:41:21
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, to come back, we blew a pretty big lead to be fair, but they came back.
1:41:27
[SPEAKER_05]: We went over time and we ended up winning that game and walking out of that stadium, the excitement.
1:41:35
[SPEAKER_05]: And I think that was we were seven and oh, if I'm not mistaken.
1:41:39
[SPEAKER_05]: And the entire time out, all you hear is people chanting.
1:41:43
[SPEAKER_05]: seven an oh seven an oh seven an oh and like I just want that that was such an incredible experience to be a part of that and and I just want my son to experience that so that he can feel that level of excitement because so far all he gets his people at school talking about how the panther suck yeah or the worst and that there's a case that their inconsequential and people even talk about them at all
1:42:09
[SPEAKER_07]: Like, they don't even have the time to enter the, oh, the Panthers exist.
1:42:13
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's what's been the worst.
1:42:15
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, we were not even the worst team year after year.
1:42:18
[SPEAKER_01]: We're like in that perpetual spot of drafting between six and nine.
1:42:27
[SPEAKER_07]: And we really blew a great opportunity.
1:42:29
[SPEAKER_07]: And this is this call and weirdly hit, not weirdly hit is a, it's one of the things that I've always tried to think about what were young team, right?
1:42:39
[SPEAKER_07]: We, you know, we haven't been around for, what, thirty years.
1:42:44
[SPEAKER_07]: And they had two Super Bowl appearances, been moments of success.
1:42:48
[SPEAKER_07]: We haven't had success, staying success.
1:42:50
[SPEAKER_07]: We were hitting the sweet spot.
1:42:52
[SPEAKER_07]: We were hitting the sweet spot of this is that all of a sudden you have the Cam Newton player, which does have that star power, the first super, super star that people that aren't football fans know who that person is.
1:43:04
[SPEAKER_07]: They've heard his name.
1:43:06
[SPEAKER_07]: then you get the Super Bowl appearance, but you were getting second generation fans.
1:43:11
[SPEAKER_07]: You were getting the parents who were fans and then they have children and they're coming up and we had an opportunity to get momentum.
1:43:19
[SPEAKER_07]: How about this is the second generation third generation of Panther fans?
1:43:24
[SPEAKER_07]: They're like, Dad, why the hell are you cheering for this deep?
1:43:28
[SPEAKER_07]: It's a, it's a sad, it's vague.
1:43:30
[SPEAKER_07]: It's sad and we need a turnaround.
1:43:33
[SPEAKER_01]: It shows you how fast I think thank God for my blindness because I have a fixed skin.
1:43:39
[SPEAKER_01]: Therefore, I don't give a sweet and sour shit when people talk crap about me for being a panther fan.
1:43:45
[SPEAKER_07]: He and a panther fans to try to be in blind.
1:43:49
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, dude.
1:43:51
[SPEAKER_01]: Dude, that's a real fan, man.
1:43:52
[SPEAKER_01]: That's, maybe it's a better being blind watching the Panthers than actually seeing what they've done the past few years last year.
1:44:00
[SPEAKER_07]: You wanted to be blind in those first ten games.
1:44:04
[SPEAKER_07]: The number two.
1:44:04
[SPEAKER_07]: I have to, two, two, eight, fifty, ninety eight.
1:44:07
[SPEAKER_07]: Let's go back to the hope dealer.
1:44:09
[SPEAKER_03]: Hey, it's the hope that the second call real quick y'all.
1:44:12
[SPEAKER_03]: Hey, I won't be long, but there's something I have to do, man.
1:44:15
[SPEAKER_03]: I thought about this last week.
1:44:18
[SPEAKER_03]: G baby.
1:44:19
[SPEAKER_03]: You know I got love for you, man.
1:44:21
[SPEAKER_03]: I got love for you.
1:44:22
[SPEAKER_03]: You were OG and I respect you.
1:44:25
[SPEAKER_03]: But, man, why are you being hatein' old true with her?
1:44:27
[SPEAKER_03]: But that's what she's doing.
1:44:29
[SPEAKER_01]: She's so amazing.
1:44:30
[SPEAKER_03]: I was thinking about this last week.
1:44:32
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, G baby, like, what would help Bryce Young out more this year?
1:44:39
[SPEAKER_03]: Then a strong running game from Tuba Hubbard and Rico Dattles.
1:44:43
[SPEAKER_03]: Imagine playing against your boy.
1:44:45
[SPEAKER_03]: We are no man that that franchise quarterbacks, a lot of them become franchise quarterbacks because they got a run game that takes somewhat pressure off.
1:44:54
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm just saying man, just think about it objectively, you know, the better that Tuba Hubbard does, you know, and Rico Dattle does in that run game and that's actually going to open up opportunities for Bryce man.
1:45:07
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, I just wanted to encourage you, man, like, I bought a car as a tube, man.
1:45:10
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't be hating on a tube, a man.
1:45:11
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, you know what we love, you know what we love, you know what we love, you know what we love, you know what we love, you know what we love, you know what we love, you know what we love, you know what we love, you know what we love, you know what we love, you know what we love, you know what we love, you know what we love, you know what we love, you know what we love, you know what we love, you know what we love, you know what we love, you know what we love, you know what we love, you know what we love, you know what we love, you know what we love, you know what we love, you know what we love, you know what we love, you know what we love, you know what we love, you know what we love, you know what we love
1:45:32
[SPEAKER_01]: Shout out, oh, dear.
1:45:34
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, do you baby just on some wild shit?
1:45:36
[SPEAKER_01]: He wants to get mad at us or no, not even us at me for not slumbering all over brightest in Jonathan Brooks who's not even gonna play this year.
1:45:47
[SPEAKER_01]: And then once the dish was back to one of the best offensive players on the team right now, bar nine.
1:45:53
[SPEAKER_01]: It's the, do you baby's on some other shit, but what don't we know?
1:45:58
[SPEAKER_07]: Uh, what's funny about this is Gee baby is the black Cody like y'all dying some hills.
1:46:07
[SPEAKER_07]: You just yeah.
1:46:08
[SPEAKER_07]: That's all y'all do it.
1:46:09
[SPEAKER_07]: You just dig the fuck in.
1:46:11
[SPEAKER_01]: Am I that unreasonable though?
1:46:14
[SPEAKER_07]: Uh, and me.
1:46:15
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
1:46:17
[SPEAKER_07]: Is that I actually love it.
1:46:18
[SPEAKER_07]: Like I respect the dot we had, uh, which we have to pay an artist and an incredible amount.
1:46:27
[SPEAKER_07]: I would love the if anybody, maybe we can do it.
1:46:30
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, I had to get a t shirt.
1:46:32
[SPEAKER_07]: My dream t shirt is dialing that hill.
1:46:36
[SPEAKER_07]: or die on this hill and it's C. K. myself and Greg all riding on the back of Cody Lacks wheelchair like we're like like a zoom in like a. Yeah, we can do that.
1:46:52
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, you guys die on that hill.
1:46:54
[SPEAKER_07]: You don't concede and there's some admirability that will do the next call here.
1:47:00
[SPEAKER_07]: Thank you for that.
1:47:01
[SPEAKER_07]: And this is the last call of the night right here.
1:47:05
[SPEAKER_12]: You know, what's going on my seat, the red family?
1:47:09
[SPEAKER_12]: The family?
1:47:10
[SPEAKER_13]: They're mine, it was up.
1:47:12
[SPEAKER_12]: Shout out to the great Tony Dunn and I'll hold me cold in that coat.
1:47:16
[SPEAKER_12]: This one is to shut the hell up.
1:47:20
[SPEAKER_12]: I brought this from another mother cold and he feels cute.
1:47:24
[SPEAKER_12]: Though I saw the title of the YouTube, I was talking about salsa balls and J.C.
1:47:29
[SPEAKER_12]: on a bargain deal and that just makes me think about the brilliance
1:47:35
[SPEAKER_12]: of Dan Morgan and David the top of bringing in Mega Mind, Brent Thillus, the Cat God.
1:47:42
[SPEAKER_12]: They knew a time and they had heard.
1:47:45
[SPEAKER_12]: He knew that the longer they waited on J.C.
1:47:49
[SPEAKER_12]: or waited to pay J.C.
1:47:51
[SPEAKER_12]: that it was going to be a high dollar amount to pay.
1:47:54
[SPEAKER_12]: So just for them being in trap with the market, being in tune with this team and getting the deal out there.
1:48:03
[SPEAKER_12]: that now in hindsight with other foreigners that have been signed this in his tier and in his grade or whatever, making so much more obvious such a brilliant job, which takes us to the free agents that they did bring in to declare a lot of pounders to try to reshrote to that defense of line and bolster the defense and getting the run stop and safety.
1:48:26
[SPEAKER_12]: If you look at any of those deals,
1:48:28
[SPEAKER_12]: They're very marked by your deals and they have easy outouts that doesn't hurt the salary cap or the team.
1:48:37
[SPEAKER_12]: So I'm really just tremendously happy and overwhelmed that we have a front office bit on shows, competency and has the intentionality to make the moves that will make the curl on about half of a better product.
1:48:53
[SPEAKER_12]: Love every single one of y'all.
1:48:56
[SPEAKER_12]: If the A word is now,
1:48:57
[SPEAKER_12]: And welcome to the parade, even though Tony said they can sit in the back.
1:49:02
[SPEAKER_12]: I said, what I see it, I'll do respect to Tony, Tony.
1:49:09
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, pound and brother.
1:49:10
[SPEAKER_01]: Dude, I'm more optimistic about the Panthers front office than I may be ever have been.
1:49:18
[SPEAKER_01]: And okay, it's because of them working.
1:49:20
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's because of, you know, they've been multiple times this season where he never jumped and gave up too much for one player.
1:49:28
[SPEAKER_01]: He didn't sacrifice all the rest of the needs of this defense to just assign a Milton Williams.
1:49:34
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, he was able to stay right where I needed to be.
1:49:38
[SPEAKER_01]: grabbed Ted Roe and McMillan and then was able to grab two really incredible patch rusures in the second and third round respectively that a lot of people had ranked higher than what they were drafted frankly.
1:49:51
[SPEAKER_01]: So Dan Morgan is earning my trust in the best way possible.
1:49:56
[SPEAKER_01]: He has me more excited for the front office and I have been in a very long time.
1:50:01
[SPEAKER_05]: I think that he's not, I really can't say that I felt like he has failed at any point.
1:50:09
[SPEAKER_05]: I know there are people who are going to say that he made some some poor decisions with, you know, drafting a guy like Jonathan Brooks or what have you and I just or even the trade with Brian Burns, people thinking that he got
1:50:26
[SPEAKER_05]: I think from day one he has done nothing but improve the culture of this team.
1:50:31
[SPEAKER_05]: And by the way, for those who think I'm just what somebody might call a Gunner nowadays when it comes to Dan Morgan, I was one that made the argument that we should not.
1:50:43
[SPEAKER_05]: have gone with him because I felt like he was a part of a regime that had failed.
1:50:49
[SPEAKER_05]: And so for me to give him this type of grace is because I truly believe the things I'm saying, not because I'm just a Dan Morgan stand by any stretch of the imagination for those who may come to that conclusion.
1:51:04
[SPEAKER_05]: But man, I'm just happy man.
1:51:05
[SPEAKER_05]: It's just exciting to have a guy in the front office that it feels like teet players are excited to play for you, then.
1:51:17
[SPEAKER_07]: See what I'm gonna tell you.
1:51:20
[SPEAKER_07]: CK was he said, rip the band out off.
1:51:24
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
1:51:26
[SPEAKER_07]: And when we got the higher of Dan Morgan, I was like, I was happy.
1:51:32
[SPEAKER_07]: I didn't know I thought your just like your point was very valid, okay, is that sure?
1:51:41
[SPEAKER_07]: I mean, like it didn't disagree with it.
1:51:43
[SPEAKER_07]: I did like this when we kept them working is he had the foot, the window of why they drafted Bryce.
1:51:54
[SPEAKER_07]: Right, you bring in a new GM and the Bryce pick, the trade, all of that is a failure of the past and you're trying to make your new, right?
1:52:06
[SPEAKER_07]: And I thought, I really respected your point, though, so you guys like, hey, man, like Frank, right?
1:52:13
[SPEAKER_07]: This is just a, like,
1:52:15
[SPEAKER_07]: new, new, new.
1:52:18
[SPEAKER_07]: I just have been happy with this.
1:52:19
[SPEAKER_07]: It's been happy with the legacy, like we have that legacy connection as fans today, Morgan.
1:52:27
[SPEAKER_07]: I did think there was some wisdom on this, is I think that we can be knee jerk as fans.
1:52:34
[SPEAKER_07]: They used to make fun of podcasts like us and fans for being too reactionary, too emotional.
1:52:43
[SPEAKER_07]: But I really contend this is that the NFL GMs, the cod, the owners, they're just as bad it turns out.
1:52:54
[SPEAKER_07]: And they can go up, change directions.
1:52:59
[SPEAKER_07]: I saw a story, Cody, and I don't know what this is like, it just again, I'm like ever fused to click on half of this shit.
1:53:06
[SPEAKER_07]: That door Sanders is going to be in the CFL.
1:53:12
[SPEAKER_07]: What?
1:53:13
[SPEAKER_07]: Yes.
1:53:14
[SPEAKER_07]: I swear, this was a, it was like, is like, is that someone's opinion?
1:53:18
[SPEAKER_07]: No.
1:53:18
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
1:53:19
[SPEAKER_01]: Who knows?
1:53:20
[SPEAKER_07]: I mean, who knows?
1:53:20
[SPEAKER_01]: It could be a. Last, that's how I was, he was fourth on the depth chart.
1:53:25
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
1:53:25
[SPEAKER_07]: It was like the Browns might cut him.
1:53:28
[SPEAKER_07]: And Shador Sanders is going to be playing with PJ.
1:53:32
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, also, so many of these Twitter, so many of these Twitter pages, like you said, they're just not Twitter.
1:53:38
[SPEAKER_01]: They're not there.
1:53:39
[SPEAKER_01]: Where were you seeing it?
1:53:41
[SPEAKER_07]: Well, when that say like it first it wasn't Twitter was like I kid it like it could have been Google news.
1:53:47
[SPEAKER_07]: It could be a blog.
1:53:48
[SPEAKER_07]: It could be at this point I said earlier it could fucking be USA today at this point.
1:53:53
[SPEAKER_07]: I was watching who's the guy the British dude that does the jokes on HBO.
1:54:01
[SPEAKER_07]: He's the smart comedian.
1:54:02
[SPEAKER_07]: He used to do.
1:54:05
[SPEAKER_07]: No, no, um, how much is he's, uh, oh, the dirty as a, um, just all over.
1:54:13
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, uh, yeah, yeah, John Oliver.
1:54:16
[SPEAKER_07]: And I'm talking about.
1:54:17
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, I mean, that's like it's kind of both, right?
1:54:22
[SPEAKER_07]: Like I'm kind of like I like him, but then it might be a gender like late in at some points, but at least it's kind of smart, kind of thoughtful.
1:54:32
[SPEAKER_07]: I'm not going to only take what he says as gospel.
1:54:37
[SPEAKER_07]: But he's talking about like the call it.
1:54:38
[SPEAKER_07]: What is it?
1:54:40
[SPEAKER_07]: It's like a slot.
1:54:44
[SPEAKER_07]: Right, and that is, um, it was awesome.
1:54:46
[SPEAKER_07]: They had this great video is like, it was a cat.
1:54:51
[SPEAKER_07]: It was a story of a cat who was a single father.
1:54:54
[SPEAKER_07]: And this AI, it was just like, it was too a song.
1:54:59
[SPEAKER_07]: And it was just like the cat and he had a son and then he raised this son.
1:55:04
[SPEAKER_07]: And it's like the sad awesome.
1:55:06
[SPEAKER_07]: terrible story.
1:55:08
[SPEAKER_07]: It's like ridiculous.
1:55:09
[SPEAKER_07]: The point is is that it's like AI beauty in that like somebody sat down and told AI to do this.
1:55:18
[SPEAKER_07]: And it's like the dumbest.
1:55:21
[SPEAKER_07]: Funny a shit.
1:55:22
[SPEAKER_01]: Lazy a snow.
1:55:24
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
1:55:24
[SPEAKER_07]: So it looks good.
1:55:25
[SPEAKER_07]: But then what the point of the whole show was is this is actually kind of funny.
1:55:30
[SPEAKER_07]: You know, it's a narrative on single parent.
1:55:33
[SPEAKER_07]: but an idiot did this and there's so many idiots doing AI shit like to the point of like they're saying this lady and I don't even have to know these people that are political or something.
1:55:48
[SPEAKER_07]: It was like she got a fight with a judge and the judge calls her out for wearing a cross but it's all made up.
1:55:55
[SPEAKER_07]: It's all AI.
1:55:57
[SPEAKER_07]: And like none of it's actually true.
1:56:01
[SPEAKER_07]: And there was a they referenced in a guy who's like a CEO for say Gemini or whatever, right?
1:56:07
[SPEAKER_07]: Like some high-end AI Institute company, whatever the fucking column.
1:56:16
[SPEAKER_07]: And they said all spam is AI.
1:56:19
[SPEAKER_07]: Not all AI is spam, but all AI, all spam is AI.
1:56:24
[SPEAKER_07]: And like, because you're just in you dated with fake shit.
1:56:28
[SPEAKER_07]: They put up a picture and it's got like, thirty two million likes is it's called the bed fan.
1:56:35
[SPEAKER_07]: I know everybody see.
1:56:36
[SPEAKER_05]: I have the word.
1:56:38
[SPEAKER_07]: Or that's like a fucking, it looks like you're on the buy you.
1:56:41
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, yeah.
1:56:43
[SPEAKER_07]: Right.
1:56:43
[SPEAKER_07]: And so, what it's like, there's where this kind of jump jump point.
1:56:49
[SPEAKER_07]: where the internet now is fraudulent completely.
1:56:54
[SPEAKER_07]: And so I don't know, Cody, where I saw that story about Sidor Sanders, I didn't even read it.
1:57:01
[SPEAKER_07]: I won't really actually, I think I did click it and you're like,
1:57:06
[SPEAKER_07]: But I was like bullshit.
1:57:07
[SPEAKER_07]: There's no way that he's already negotiating a contract with a CFL team.
1:57:17
[SPEAKER_07]: And then they were trying to talk about in the story like he's like, he's dad's a problem.
1:57:21
[SPEAKER_07]: He's dad's a problem.
1:57:22
[SPEAKER_07]: I'm sorry.
1:57:24
[SPEAKER_07]: is that I don't give a fuck who there how big of a issue deon is.
1:57:29
[SPEAKER_07]: I love deon.
1:57:29
[SPEAKER_07]: I fuck with deon and I don't care if you think that should do or wasn't a first round like he should have been like second like his fault.
1:57:38
[SPEAKER_07]: If you say he his fault was necessary because of his talent, I'm fine with that.
1:57:45
[SPEAKER_07]: But if fucking Jonathan Mengo was still in the league and should door Sanders is playing in the CFL, I got a fucking problem.
1:57:55
[SPEAKER_07]: a big problem, and I don't get it.
1:57:57
[SPEAKER_07]: I don't understand it.
1:57:58
[SPEAKER_01]: How about your anything that doesn't happen?
1:58:02
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it probably did the back up of the starter.
1:58:05
[SPEAKER_07]: I think it could start.
1:58:09
[SPEAKER_01]: Who was there?
1:58:10
[SPEAKER_01]: Who were their quarterbacks first?
1:58:15
[SPEAKER_01]: Joe Flanko Joe Flanko.
1:58:18
[SPEAKER_01]: Joe Flanko is on favor because the plan was there.
1:58:22
[SPEAKER_01]: A few years ago, but again, they don't have a more in Cooper.
1:58:25
[SPEAKER_01]: They don't have a few players.
1:58:27
[SPEAKER_01]: And now it looks like the second round of the back is going to miss four to six games if it gets suspended.
1:58:33
[SPEAKER_01]: But then it's can they pick it?
1:58:36
[SPEAKER_01]: uh... who's some brown fans i want to say i'm gonna say i'm gonna say i'm gonna say i'm gonna say i'm gonna say i'm gonna say i'm gonna say i'm gonna say i'm gonna say i'm gonna say i'm gonna say i'm gonna say i'm gonna say i'm gonna say i'm gonna say i'm gonna say i'm gonna say i'm gonna say i'm gonna say i'm gonna say i'm gonna say i'm gonna say i'm gonna say i'm gonna say i'm gonna say i'm gonna say i'm gonna say i'm gonna say i'm gonna say i'm gonna say i'm gonna say i'm gonna say i'm gonna say i'm gonna say i'm gonna say i'm gonna say i'm gonna say i'm gonna say i'm gonna say i'm gonna say i'm gonna say i'm gonna say i'm gonna say i'm gonna say i'm gonna say i'm gonna say i'm gonna say i'm gonna say i'm gonna say i'm gonna say i'm gonna say i'm gonna say i'm gonna say i
1:58:59
[SPEAKER_07]: But that left the quarterbacks don't work.
1:59:01
[SPEAKER_07]: I think this I won't say collusion, but like I don't know what the point of the universe is trying to prove against Shoulder Sanders and I'm a Cam Newton fan so you know what I'm a Shoulder Sanders if that motherfucker
1:59:17
[SPEAKER_07]: If whoever that lefty guy starts ahead of him and kidney pick it starts ahead of fuck that I will take Joe Flacco for eight games.
1:59:26
[SPEAKER_07]: I think that's reasonable.
1:59:27
[SPEAKER_07]: You put old Joe in, which I don't like.
1:59:29
[SPEAKER_07]: You can't throw it beyond forty or thirty yards.
1:59:34
[SPEAKER_07]: Give should door a chance.
1:59:36
[SPEAKER_07]: Like with the hell.
1:59:37
[SPEAKER_07]: What kind of world are we living in?
1:59:40
[SPEAKER_01]: Cadets.
1:59:41
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know man, but they do it.
1:59:43
[SPEAKER_01]: Browns, they're Cleveland Browns that weren't quarterbacks ago to die.
1:59:47
[SPEAKER_01]: Do you know what I mean?
1:59:49
[SPEAKER_07]: Like the Carolina.
1:59:50
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
1:59:52
[SPEAKER_01]: We've had some, you know, between Cam and Jake the long, you know, we've had some quarterbacks that've done some good shit, but the Browns are notorious for, you know, messing up every quarterbacks situation that they've ever had.
2:00:07
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I wasn't surprised again.
2:00:10
[SPEAKER_07]: The irony of all of this is I was on pirate radio on Friday hanging out with my boy CW who is he wears every time he comes on he's a teacher right with like a public school teacher, but he only comes on the summer, right?
2:00:26
[SPEAKER_07]: He's over-prepared.
2:00:28
[SPEAKER_07]: Like he always has like so many stats.
2:00:31
[SPEAKER_07]: I mean, he plays in like forty fantasy football leagues.
2:00:36
[SPEAKER_07]: It's insane.
2:00:37
[SPEAKER_07]: But he wears an NFL shield.
2:00:40
[SPEAKER_07]: They call him the shield.
2:00:42
[SPEAKER_07]: He loves football so much that he wears an NFL teacher first.
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[SPEAKER_07]: But he's the Tampa Bay Buck in the ocean.
2:00:50
[SPEAKER_07]: All right.
2:00:52
[SPEAKER_07]: And he's so smart.
2:00:53
[SPEAKER_07]: Like he knows more.
2:00:54
[SPEAKER_00]: That's pretty.
2:00:55
[SPEAKER_07]: Why?
2:00:55
[SPEAKER_07]: He's like the smartest football fan I've ever met in my life.
2:01:00
[SPEAKER_07]: Right.
2:01:01
[SPEAKER_07]: But the idea we're talking about Baker and he's a Baker bottom now.
2:01:06
[SPEAKER_07]: I love that.
2:01:07
[SPEAKER_07]: I didn't tell him that.
2:01:08
[SPEAKER_07]: I thought he was like, he's too sophisticated.
2:01:10
[SPEAKER_07]: You sure have.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I sort of really ruin his world.
2:01:13
[SPEAKER_07]: Me like, fuck.
2:01:16
[SPEAKER_07]: But the idea was is like he was talking about Baker and his trajectory like Browns, right?
2:01:25
[SPEAKER_07]: And he was like, they didn't see, you know, like he had this moment.
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[SPEAKER_07]: And I was thinking about Baker in the history and the legacy of the Browns.
2:01:36
[SPEAKER_07]: Right, like we have that, do you guys remember that picture that the guy walks to the stadium?
2:01:41
[SPEAKER_07]: The Browns fan and he has like ten quarterback names, Tim Cow.
2:01:45
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, they add to the list every year.
2:01:47
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
2:01:48
[SPEAKER_07]: Like Baker was their success story.
2:01:53
[SPEAKER_07]: and their failure story isn't as it's kind of odd like his like he got them to a point where you put him with the guy with the mouth uh Garrett right like I mean all sudden the browns weren't just the shit stayed on the NFL but somehow now they like they're like you know what
2:02:14
[SPEAKER_07]: It's kind of like somebody who's like, they've been in failed marriages.
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[SPEAKER_07]: And like this.
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[SPEAKER_07]: And it's like, you know, I'm going to leave this woman who loves me.
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[SPEAKER_07]: And I'm going to marry this girl, just cheats up it.
2:02:28
[SPEAKER_07]: Like, how do they get in your watch and then we're going through our somewhere else?
2:02:33
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
2:02:33
[SPEAKER_07]: They were in the worst quarterback hell right now.
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[SPEAKER_07]: That should do us there.
2:02:37
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
2:02:37
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, and then they're in the running.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're already in the running for a lot of the
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[SPEAKER_01]: For you know first picks for next year, but people are already saying arch manning to Which I don't I don't I don't think that arch man is coming out next year So door bringing them to nine wins.
2:02:58
[SPEAKER_07]: All right, let's round it out
2:03:01
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so this was from Africa this name.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He works for NFL spin and he is basically predicting that the Carolina Panthers are what they said going with five and twelve this year.
2:03:13
[SPEAKER_01]: It has dead cats don't bounce very far.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We cannot confirm this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We have not conducted experiments.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There is no cat deviate then cat deviate away.
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[SPEAKER_07]: But it's up here that he says this.
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[SPEAKER_07]: We cannot confirm this week.
2:03:31
[SPEAKER_07]: This guy didn't even know.
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[SPEAKER_07]: There's no dead cat deviate away.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Fuck off.
2:03:36
[SPEAKER_07]: Your chest hurt me.
2:03:38
[SPEAKER_01]: It says that's what it says.
2:03:39
[SPEAKER_01]: It says toss a den camp from a tall building watching hit the sidewalk and the result will be more splat than boring.
2:03:46
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what the statistics are trying to tell you when they use the den camp bounce metaphor.
2:03:52
[SPEAKER_01]: So we list all of this stats up here.
2:03:54
[SPEAKER_01]: We write a bunch of other bullshit.
2:03:56
[SPEAKER_01]: But this is according to him.
2:03:59
[SPEAKER_01]: These are the postseason odds, the odds to reach the Super Bowl and the odds to win the Super Bowl.
2:04:06
[SPEAKER_01]: He has this below the jets, the Saints, the Browns, the Titans.
2:04:12
[SPEAKER_01]: He's expecting us to be another dog shit team this year.
2:04:16
[SPEAKER_01]: However, a bit of a bright side is last year.
2:04:19
[SPEAKER_01]: He said this about the Washington Commanders.
2:04:23
[SPEAKER_01]: that they had almost no chances to make the playoffs over to Super Bowl and to look at what they were able to do.
2:04:30
[SPEAKER_07]: So a lot of people in Daniel's who fucking crushed it.
2:04:33
[SPEAKER_07]: So a lot of people think that he was a bad guy.
2:04:35
[SPEAKER_07]: That's the same person making the playoffs.
2:04:37
[SPEAKER_07]: But if you go back, go back one.
2:04:39
[SPEAKER_07]: Yep.
2:04:41
[SPEAKER_07]: Nine and a half CK is actually, let's look at the jets.
2:04:47
[SPEAKER_07]: That's really is like if we were going to look at the, oh, even New Orleans.
2:04:51
[SPEAKER_07]: They think we're the same team as the idea that the jets have a better chance or a less of a chance than making, which I don't know who is a quarterback of the jets.
2:05:04
[SPEAKER_01]: This should have been just infields.
2:05:07
[SPEAKER_07]: But we don't even know who the quarterback.
2:05:09
[SPEAKER_07]: Oh, um, is it?
2:05:11
[SPEAKER_07]: It's my bastard son's kid for New Orleans.
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[SPEAKER_07]: The idea that the Browns.
2:05:18
[SPEAKER_01]: No, Tyler, Chuck for New Orleans.
2:05:20
[SPEAKER_01]: God, they're drafted in the second round.
2:05:22
[SPEAKER_07]: All right.
2:05:24
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, I don't even know.
2:05:25
[SPEAKER_07]: I have the biggest idiot, CK.
2:05:28
[SPEAKER_07]: He might, you know, I'll say fuck this dude because I don't care about his whatever.
2:05:35
[SPEAKER_07]: He puts up right away.
2:05:38
[SPEAKER_07]: He has the idea that Cleveland can make it to the playoffs.
2:05:43
[SPEAKER_07]: We were just talking about them cutting.
2:05:46
[SPEAKER_07]: They don't wait with Joe Flacco beating what Cincinnati, the Ravens.
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[SPEAKER_07]: They can't win their division.
2:05:55
[SPEAKER_07]: Right.
2:05:55
[SPEAKER_07]: You think that the Browns are winning their division over the Ravens?
2:05:59
[SPEAKER_07]: No.
2:06:00
[SPEAKER_07]: The Bengals with no defense still.
2:06:03
[SPEAKER_07]: No.
2:06:04
[SPEAKER_07]: There is no way that Cleveland and New Orleans should be ahead of either the jets or Carolina, just based on their division opportunities again.
2:06:14
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
2:06:15
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, I listen, I think that right now, you couldn't put much of an
2:06:24
[SPEAKER_05]: You couldn't tell me why you think Atlanta is higher.
2:06:28
[SPEAKER_05]: You really couldn't, because I mean, they had, they had a list of leads.
2:06:33
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
2:06:34
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, there are averages very raised at the top because there's an average one to eight point four, right?
2:06:39
[SPEAKER_05]: I haven't seen it.
2:06:39
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they're the top one.
2:06:41
[SPEAKER_01]: They're the top of the list.
2:06:44
[SPEAKER_01]: That's right.
2:06:44
[SPEAKER_07]: The way where you should do like this list.
2:06:47
[SPEAKER_07]: This is a talk about, you know, people that talk about you make a list, either leave somebody out or you make something ridiculous.
2:06:54
[SPEAKER_05]: Tell me what is the redeeming quality of the Saints right now?
2:06:59
[SPEAKER_07]: How does New England make the playoffs?
2:07:02
[SPEAKER_07]: Everybody's going to get them to be good too.
2:07:05
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you got training.
2:07:07
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, the jets, like, you know, they had a lot of free agent additions.
2:07:13
[SPEAKER_01]: Also, when it comes to Atlanta, you know, Kirk cousins got hurt midway through the season last year, but before that, they were putting up points.
2:07:22
[SPEAKER_01]: So I think people are judging that roster based on Michael Panics taking a jump in his second year.
2:07:29
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
2:07:29
[SPEAKER_07]: Let me ask you guys this question is to make the playoffs the easiest way to make the playoffs is to win your division.
2:07:36
[SPEAKER_07]: Right.
2:07:37
[SPEAKER_07]: It's almost harder to make a wild card.
2:07:41
[SPEAKER_07]: And sometimes then it is to win your division.
2:07:43
[SPEAKER_07]: Right.
2:07:44
[SPEAKER_07]: Like you got to have a butt.
2:07:45
[SPEAKER_07]: Right.
2:07:46
[SPEAKER_07]: So is Atlanta winning the South?
2:07:50
[SPEAKER_07]: Yes or no?
2:07:51
[SPEAKER_07]: No.
2:07:52
[SPEAKER_07]: is Las Vegas when they're division.
2:07:55
[SPEAKER_07]: You got the chargers.
2:07:57
[SPEAKER_07]: You've got.
2:07:58
[SPEAKER_05]: I think there are even there is only going to be wild card.
2:08:03
[SPEAKER_05]: There's there's no way there is a group of people that believe that they're going to do throne the chiefs.
2:08:10
[SPEAKER_07]: But you're trying to tell me that there's not a team in the AFC where it comes to the bills, the dolphins.
2:08:19
[SPEAKER_07]: There's Las Vegas was terrible.
2:08:22
[SPEAKER_07]: They're not making a book.
2:08:24
[SPEAKER_07]: No, they're not when they're division.
2:08:25
[SPEAKER_07]: I don't think they're making the player the wild court is New England went in the division where they got the jets.
2:08:32
[SPEAKER_07]: They got the dolphins.
2:08:34
[SPEAKER_07]: They've got who else is one of the team in that division.
2:08:40
[SPEAKER_07]: The jets, the dolphins, the bills and the bills.
2:08:43
[SPEAKER_07]: All right, so they're not
2:08:46
[SPEAKER_07]: Right.
2:08:47
[SPEAKER_07]: The bills were winning that division.
2:08:50
[SPEAKER_07]: So doing was not winning the wild card over all these other teams.
2:08:54
[SPEAKER_07]: So no, Chicago, are they winning their division?
2:08:57
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, Minnesota.
2:08:58
[SPEAKER_07]: You got Detroit.
2:09:01
[SPEAKER_07]: Green Bay.
2:09:02
[SPEAKER_07]: They're not when they're division.
2:09:04
[SPEAKER_07]: Maybe it would be a fucking long shot.
2:09:08
[SPEAKER_07]: Green Bay is winning that division in my opinion.
2:09:12
[SPEAKER_07]: No, get them off the list.
2:09:14
[SPEAKER_07]: Minnesota.
2:09:15
[SPEAKER_07]: Okay.
2:09:16
[SPEAKER_07]: Good.
2:09:17
[SPEAKER_07]: See I don't I'll take that.
2:09:18
[SPEAKER_07]: Chargers.
2:09:19
[SPEAKER_07]: Chargers to be the top of this list.
2:09:22
[SPEAKER_07]: Chargers.
2:09:23
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, they have a good question again or potentially make that you know, they're a lock Dallas.
2:09:31
[SPEAKER_07]: Okay.
2:09:32
[SPEAKER_07]: I'll take Dallas, right?
2:09:33
[SPEAKER_07]: I mean, I don't know about them enough, but they're going to be competitive among the giants, the commanders, right Pittsburgh.
2:09:43
[SPEAKER_07]: Yes, this guy's a fucking idiot.
2:09:46
[SPEAKER_07]: Tennessee, you're trying to tell me, I guess Tennessee, what you're going to say, the AFC South, nobody wins, but everybody wins.
2:09:55
[SPEAKER_07]: This is a ridiculous, this might be the most ridiculous list and he won.
2:10:00
[SPEAKER_07]: He whoever wrote this and I'm glad.
2:10:02
[SPEAKER_07]: He has to remember his name.
2:10:03
[SPEAKER_07]: We will not give him credit because whoever the fuck this person is got us to talk about the stupid fucking list.
2:10:11
[SPEAKER_07]: He's the worst list in the history of the world.
2:10:13
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he has to kind of over Minnesota.
2:10:16
[SPEAKER_01]: That's pretty fucking stupid.
2:10:17
[SPEAKER_07]: The idea that Atlanta has a better odds to make the playoffs than the chargers.
2:10:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Do you think we can sweep the sands on the balcony this year?
2:10:29
[SPEAKER_07]: I don't even care if we sleep every split.
2:10:32
[SPEAKER_07]: Do you really think Chicago, who's the most ridiculous name on this list?
2:10:40
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's it might probably the right probably the readers.
2:10:42
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
2:10:43
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2:10:59
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, what was the rankings last year?
2:11:01
[SPEAKER_01]: Do you have Jacksonville?
2:11:03
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know the better.
2:11:04
[SPEAKER_01]: Do you have Tennessee?
2:11:06
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I do.
2:11:07
[SPEAKER_07]: This is terrible, man.
2:11:10
[SPEAKER_07]: Oh, Carolina.
2:11:13
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's true.
2:11:13
[SPEAKER_01]: He had us being decent.
2:11:16
[SPEAKER_07]: The chargers who made the playoffs.
2:11:18
[SPEAKER_07]: Think about it.
2:11:19
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
2:11:19
[SPEAKER_07]: Look, who made the playoffs last year?
2:11:22
[SPEAKER_07]: Tampa, Minnesota.
2:11:28
[SPEAKER_07]: the chargers.
2:11:30
[SPEAKER_07]: Denver.
2:11:31
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
2:11:32
[SPEAKER_07]: Don't worry.
2:11:32
[SPEAKER_07]: Washington.
2:11:33
[SPEAKER_07]: Oh, look at that.
2:11:35
[SPEAKER_07]: Washington made it for what did they make the Super Bowl, Azure?
2:11:38
[SPEAKER_01]: No.
2:11:39
[SPEAKER_07]: That's sure was the, that's sure was the, that's sure was the tubes and the, but they made the NFC championship, least possible.
2:11:49
[SPEAKER_01]: Was the championship?
2:11:50
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, but do they had Washington at the bottom of his list?
2:11:55
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and they've got to tell you everything that you need to write.
2:11:57
[SPEAKER_07]: We got last bit of info.
2:12:00
[SPEAKER_01]: So this is another list.
2:12:06
[SPEAKER_01]: where the Panthers are being devalued by Bill Bourne.
2:12:09
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, who has out of thirty two teams, he ranks our offense and in terms of our weapons as thirty first.
2:12:22
[SPEAKER_01]: He says while the Panthers are certainly trying to add receivers this year, it's number eight technique milling who hopes to fill the same role.
2:12:30
[SPEAKER_01]: My Kevin's did for Coach Canal.
2:12:32
[SPEAKER_01]: That's when he was coordinating the two thousand twenty three bucks offense.
2:12:36
[SPEAKER_01]: It diving me milling with a loud car line as wide out to drop one spot in the rotation, which would suit many of them.
2:12:43
[SPEAKER_01]: Looking back to the pan to a thousand twenty four class.
2:12:46
[SPEAKER_01]: I find myself more intrigued by the undrafted free agent Jalen Coker.
2:12:51
[SPEAKER_01]: Then second round picking is they really get as the average respect of a one point nine yards per route to like that's one point three outside of veteran Adam doing.
2:13:02
[SPEAKER_01]: who continues to produce it is three or four.
2:13:04
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a lot of projection here.
2:13:07
[SPEAKER_01]: Not that last sentence isn't necessarily false because you were doing a lot of projecting.
2:13:15
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, there's no last chance to do that.
2:13:19
[SPEAKER_07]: He, this is, um, I don't know if you want to be smart.
2:13:24
[SPEAKER_07]: You want to make the podcast.
2:13:27
[SPEAKER_07]: I actually now, I'm sorry to think everybody's writing this shit to make the C-three pandas podcast.
2:13:32
[SPEAKER_07]: He wrote this to say, Jalen Cougar is going to be a bigger impact than XL.
2:13:37
[SPEAKER_07]: Fuck you.
2:13:38
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what J baby thinks.
2:13:40
[SPEAKER_07]: Whatever, get the fuck out of here.
2:13:42
[SPEAKER_07]: I do think, look, if Jonathan Brooks would have hit, bro, God, Lord of Mercy, sat, there's gonna go down as one of the Santa stories in Panther history, in my opinion, and maybe, and if Jonathan Brooks could have been a fucking, and I hope he is, I don't know if it how it can, maybe it's, I don't wanna write somebody off,
2:14:08
[SPEAKER_07]: But if that motherfucker would have come out, we saw him look like a player, be a player.
2:14:13
[SPEAKER_07]: If we were walking into this year saying, we got Chuba, Jonathan Brooks is going to supplant Chuba, we got Ted.
2:14:23
[SPEAKER_07]: Do you know how our all our, you know, what's would be as Viagra Horde?
2:14:30
[SPEAKER_07]: I mean, like in saying, the Jonathan Brooks part is wild.
2:14:35
[SPEAKER_07]: I wish.
2:14:37
[SPEAKER_01]: You know why I'm not bitching about any of this Tony?
2:14:40
[SPEAKER_01]: It's what I said like a week or two ago.
2:14:42
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't like it when everyone's high on us.
2:14:47
[SPEAKER_01]: like when people are high on us when we haven't proved or done anything like I almost like this shit better because this is the fuel there's like my coach that was doing this is the bulletin board material that you put up in front of the in front of the entire team and they said they think y'all and shit this is true you're building a team Cody like it's like this is that the offense runs through to Behober
2:15:16
[SPEAKER_01]: and that the rest of our wild receivers and titans that they're just projecting them because you don't have a ton of evidence of them being great rich by the way, I have no problem at all.
2:15:27
[SPEAKER_01]: That's not on true.
2:15:29
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
2:15:30
[SPEAKER_07]: Over Excel is like we looked at the roster.
2:15:34
[SPEAKER_07]: We looked at a couple of stats.
2:15:36
[SPEAKER_07]: We don't know anything about this team and we just said, you know what, I don't want to pick the
2:15:42
[SPEAKER_07]: It's like we can go to a restaurant and you're like, they weren't, I don't even, this is not even good example.
2:15:46
[SPEAKER_07]: But like, he didn't want to just say, oh, Ted first round pit, exhale, gonna make a second.
2:15:52
[SPEAKER_07]: Like, that's two cookie cutters.
2:15:54
[SPEAKER_07]: He's like, Jalen Coker, supplanting exhale.
2:15:59
[SPEAKER_07]: I guess it's so out of the, I don't know, and the Jonathan Brooks, gosh, if he could have hit, and I want to show you this, Cody, I want to bring this up because we get so excited about the videos right of everybody, like, oh, workout king, workout king, right?
2:16:21
[SPEAKER_07]: And XL, who are my giant fan of, and I don't, I think people shit on them too much.
2:16:28
[SPEAKER_07]: I think he's going to be a good person.
2:16:30
[SPEAKER_07]: He has an opportunity.
2:16:32
[SPEAKER_07]: I think this is stupid because they said jail and coker over Excel.
2:16:36
[SPEAKER_07]: That's what I think is I think that is somebody a piece of paper.
2:16:40
[SPEAKER_07]: They looked at, oh, Excel first round draft pit.
2:16:44
[SPEAKER_07]: People talk about some drops.
2:16:46
[SPEAKER_07]: I think Excel had a really impactful rookie year.
2:16:49
[SPEAKER_07]: Yes, could it have been more where there are other rookies that maybe made it look less?
2:16:54
[SPEAKER_07]: But we love these stupid videos of how hard they work, right?
2:17:00
[SPEAKER_07]: And we watched all those videos of Excel, right?
2:17:04
[SPEAKER_07]: We get up like, oh, Excel working.
2:17:07
[SPEAKER_07]: This is, uh, what is named Keenan Coleman from the bills?
2:17:12
[SPEAKER_01]: Keenan Coleman.
2:17:13
[SPEAKER_01]: You jab people are roasting him for looking not so... You try to hold me.
2:17:18
[SPEAKER_07]: That XL don't look better than this motherfucker.
2:17:21
[SPEAKER_13]: And mute the song.
2:17:23
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, just mute the volume.
2:17:31
[SPEAKER_07]: Look at this, try to tell me that that video of XL working out.
2:17:36
[SPEAKER_07]: XL, who's he rocking with?
2:17:38
[SPEAKER_07]: He's on video cover.
2:17:39
[SPEAKER_07]: Who's it?
2:17:39
[SPEAKER_07]: Who's that girl?
2:17:40
[SPEAKER_07]: He's with a girl.
2:17:43
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, XL having the lifetime of his life.
2:17:46
[SPEAKER_07]: This is what the bills got.
2:17:50
[SPEAKER_07]: What does he do in?
2:17:53
[SPEAKER_07]: But that was the knock on him coming out.
2:17:56
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not fast.
2:17:58
[SPEAKER_07]: It's fast, but look at his foot, like it's like, this would be like, oh, hey.
2:18:03
[SPEAKER_01]: His name's on coordinator.
2:18:05
[SPEAKER_07]: If we put that, except can you find the Excel video real quick before we close the show out of him doing the same thing?
2:18:12
[SPEAKER_07]: Look at how sharp the footwork is.
2:18:15
[SPEAKER_07]: I don't know what I would look at this is coal man trying as if I'm a DB.
2:18:21
[SPEAKER_07]: is he trying to Napoleon Dynamite me here?
2:18:25
[SPEAKER_07]: Like, this is what I do to people like my kids.
2:18:30
[SPEAKER_07]: I mean, like, I can't, you can't see me.
2:18:32
[SPEAKER_07]: What is going on?
2:18:33
[SPEAKER_07]: Is this good footwork?
2:18:35
[SPEAKER_07]: I want to ask a why receiver coach?
2:18:38
[SPEAKER_07]: Is this actually, or is he just shaky shaky shaking?
2:18:43
[SPEAKER_07]: I don't know what, it does not look great to me.
2:18:47
[SPEAKER_07]: And maybe I'm eyeball testing.
2:18:52
[SPEAKER_07]: All right.
2:18:52
[SPEAKER_07]: So we got the.
2:18:53
[SPEAKER_13]: Can you see this?
2:18:54
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
2:18:55
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
2:18:56
[SPEAKER_07]: So we saw Colman do that drill.
2:18:58
[SPEAKER_07]: Who is celebrated right from last year.
2:19:01
[SPEAKER_07]: Then we got.
2:19:02
[SPEAKER_07]: Oh, the.
2:19:08
[SPEAKER_07]: We got to get the footwork part because he just went to plant one to plant right one to plant.
2:19:15
[SPEAKER_07]: At least I was how I see it.
2:19:16
[SPEAKER_07]: If like my trainer said.
2:19:18
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, one hanging.
2:19:20
[SPEAKER_07]: We're going to do this drill.
2:19:25
[SPEAKER_07]: Let's see the begin it here.
2:19:26
[SPEAKER_07]: All right.
2:19:26
[SPEAKER_07]: This is where we're looking at this right here.
2:19:29
[SPEAKER_07]: That's not him.
2:19:31
[SPEAKER_07]: This is not the video actually that we saw.
2:19:33
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
2:19:36
[SPEAKER_07]: That's not the right video.
2:19:37
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
2:19:37
[SPEAKER_07]: All right.
2:19:39
[SPEAKER_07]: Look at that.
2:19:42
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, my man's like, it's like, I'm just going to rub my, it's like me dancing.
2:19:47
[SPEAKER_07]: I'm not going to go.
2:19:48
[SPEAKER_07]: It's like somebody that can actually dance.
2:19:50
[SPEAKER_07]: We're going to club.
2:19:51
[SPEAKER_07]: That's why it was an actually dance.
2:19:54
[SPEAKER_01]: And then me getting out there and be like, I try to do that's why it was pissing me off when people were disrespecting Xavier like that after one season and making a big deal out of a couple dumb drops.
2:20:07
[SPEAKER_01]: But that dude still has a ton
2:20:10
[SPEAKER_01]: of potential and talent that we haven't even begun to tap into yet.
2:20:15
[SPEAKER_01]: So do shout out to Angel.
2:20:18
[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to be a lot better this year.
2:20:23
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we wasted too much time talking about bullshit.
2:20:26
[SPEAKER_01]: This, do we expect to add any more defensive players to the team before the start of the season?
2:20:33
[SPEAKER_01]: You have Justin Simmons still out there, a scientist, Samuel.
2:20:38
[SPEAKER_01]: There are some people even saying, I'm going against the fun, no more.
2:20:42
[SPEAKER_01]: He's not retired.
2:20:43
[SPEAKER_01]: He was still looking for a team.
2:20:45
[SPEAKER_01]: Through the Panthers back in the editions.
2:20:47
[SPEAKER_07]: I'm happy with our roster.
2:20:49
[SPEAKER_07]: I don't think it's going to get us a Super Bowl.
2:20:53
[SPEAKER_07]: Right.
2:20:53
[SPEAKER_07]: I think we, I think you add some of these names.
2:20:57
[SPEAKER_07]: Okay.
2:20:58
[SPEAKER_07]: Like you go, what was the last one?
2:21:00
[SPEAKER_07]: What was the last one you said, Cody?
2:21:04
[SPEAKER_07]: I don't know more.
2:21:06
[SPEAKER_07]: Oh, no more.
2:21:07
[SPEAKER_07]: Gilmore, right.
2:21:09
[SPEAKER_07]: Oh, or Sanjay Samuel Jr.
2:21:11
[SPEAKER_07]: I just went out of realize we're talking about Jr.
2:21:13
[SPEAKER_07]: a couple of weeks.
2:21:14
[SPEAKER_07]: is I almost feel like that adds a name that causes a problem for your vision and that you come out and you bring in a free agent that has name, veteran chip is I think that look nobody thinks that the Carolina Panthers defense or at least I don't is going to be top ten like this or that but I want it to have a identity direction in this
2:21:37
[SPEAKER_07]: You add some of these names and all of a sudden you create a competition that is not a long-term competition.
2:21:44
[SPEAKER_07]: It's a moment.
2:21:46
[SPEAKER_07]: You have to put Gilmore out there over Chaos Myth Wade or something like that or whoever.
2:21:54
[SPEAKER_07]: We want horn, Jackson, a morgue, rambo.
2:21:59
[SPEAKER_07]: That's my start, right?
2:22:01
[SPEAKER_07]: And like anybody else needs to be a, not a backup, but somebody could close to be of their caliber, hopefully, depth.
2:22:10
[SPEAKER_07]: I don't want to name that overshadows by nature.
2:22:15
[SPEAKER_01]: Hmm.
2:22:16
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, man.
2:22:17
[SPEAKER_01]: Like I would like to sign.
2:22:19
[SPEAKER_01]: That's why we got to tell you Samuel.
2:22:21
[SPEAKER_01]: We had this conversation last week.
2:22:23
[SPEAKER_01]: I would like to sign a song to Samuel.
2:22:24
[SPEAKER_01]: You're gonna start a member.
2:22:25
[SPEAKER_01]: You're gonna start him over.
2:22:27
[SPEAKER_01]: Josh went away.
2:22:28
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
2:22:28
[SPEAKER_07]: What in is that is?
2:22:31
[SPEAKER_07]: That's the Nicole corner position.
2:22:33
[SPEAKER_07]: Nicole corner.
2:22:33
[SPEAKER_07]: So you can put Jackson.
2:22:36
[SPEAKER_07]: Horn.
2:22:40
[SPEAKER_07]: Rambo boring so what we get the four starting right you gonna put the four in the front?
2:22:48
[SPEAKER_07]: Do you not think that that okay?
2:22:50
[SPEAKER_07]: I will take that name.
2:22:52
[SPEAKER_07]: I'll be okay with that one.
2:22:54
[SPEAKER_01]: Who is Samuel?
2:22:55
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, I mean like it's like a nickel corner.
2:22:57
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think it was still one Justin Simmons.
2:23:01
[SPEAKER_07]: Safety.
2:23:03
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
2:23:04
[SPEAKER_07]: Free safety.
2:23:04
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because we're pretty much depending on
2:23:08
[SPEAKER_01]: either latin ransom a rookie to be able to turn it up and do something this year up or a demonic Richardson who doesn't inspire a ton of confidence on our y'all were all high-bought him last year.
2:23:21
[SPEAKER_07]: Okay.
2:23:22
[SPEAKER_07]: Those two names are fine.
2:23:24
[SPEAKER_07]: I just don't want to name that overpowers by name.
2:23:28
[SPEAKER_07]: Right.
2:23:28
[SPEAKER_07]: Like you bring in.
2:23:29
[SPEAKER_07]: I think that's why we let clown again.
2:23:31
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
2:23:35
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, yeah, naturally, you have to do everything you can to create competition.
2:23:41
[SPEAKER_05]: Again, I've been saying it.
2:23:46
[SPEAKER_05]: I'd like some of the moves that we've made.
2:23:49
[SPEAKER_05]: I just don't feel as though we're as improved as people are expecting us to be on defense.
2:23:56
[SPEAKER_07]: We're not on the same way, right?
2:23:58
[SPEAKER_07]: It's okay.
2:23:58
[SPEAKER_05]: Right.
2:23:59
[SPEAKER_05]: We were a lot of pieces away and there's
2:24:04
[SPEAKER_05]: The argument brown is coming back.
2:24:06
[SPEAKER_05]: I agree.
2:24:07
[SPEAKER_05]: I think we're going to be improved.
2:24:09
[SPEAKER_05]: But I don't know that the moves that we made are enough to make me feel like we're moving to the top half of the league as far as quality of defense.
2:24:19
[SPEAKER_05]: And that's going to put a lot of pressure still on our offense to be able to perform at a high level with really little to no ability for them to make a mistake and be saved from those mistakes.
2:24:31
[SPEAKER_05]: You don't have the likes of a Shack Thompson back there who's leading the defense.
2:24:35
[SPEAKER_05]: You don't have Lou Vu any more.
2:24:38
[SPEAKER_05]: You have a lot of pieces that were core pieces, leadership pieces that aren't there.
2:24:44
[SPEAKER_07]: But thank God they're gone, okay, because there wasn't, they may have been leadership positions or pieces, but we fucking were terrible.
2:24:53
[SPEAKER_05]: Sure, but you I can't tell you that I felt like it was Lou Vu or or Shack Thompson in general.
2:25:01
[SPEAKER_05]: That was the reason.
2:25:02
[SPEAKER_05]: Jack Thompson's biggest fault over the past couple of years has ultimately been his lack of availability.
2:25:09
[SPEAKER_05]: You know, that's really what was I think his downfall.
2:25:13
[SPEAKER_05]: You know, with that in the older
2:25:15
[SPEAKER_07]: It's getting older, right?
2:25:17
[SPEAKER_05]: But he wasn't a liability.
2:25:19
[SPEAKER_05]: You know, he wasn't like what I mean by that is he wasn't a reason the team.
2:25:24
[SPEAKER_05]: We weren't looking to check Thompson as the reason why we were considered one of the worst defenses in the history of the NFL, right?
2:25:31
[SPEAKER_07]: The question that goes back to adding people like who had when do you add them?
2:25:36
[SPEAKER_07]: And I'm okay with these names one year deals.
2:25:41
[SPEAKER_07]: I just don't want a guy that we bring in that you feel like has to start over and play like imagine bringing a guy in your like all of a sudden we have to play him today over Rambo because they are a day one better they're not their floor is higher than Rambo's floor at that moment.
2:26:01
[SPEAKER_07]: I don't want a guy.
2:26:02
[SPEAKER_07]: I think this is why we let go of clowning.
2:26:05
[SPEAKER_07]: is that clown a when you go to put pencil in the line up.
2:26:11
[SPEAKER_07]: He's the best player at that moment.
2:26:14
[SPEAKER_07]: He is the best way.
2:26:15
[SPEAKER_07]: He's better than Prince.
2:26:16
[SPEAKER_07]: He's better than Scorton.
2:26:18
[SPEAKER_07]: He's better than this.
2:26:20
[SPEAKER_07]: I want to bring in guys that are short-term deals and debt players.
2:26:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, that's what Hillmore would be.
2:26:29
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to do it tonight.
2:26:30
[SPEAKER_01]: Just start your four or three or five.
2:26:32
[SPEAKER_07]: So if it's going to be like this, we're going to be putting him.
2:26:35
[SPEAKER_07]: We're going to try to start him over Mike Jackson.
2:26:38
[SPEAKER_07]: That's what you're going to be doing.
2:26:40
[SPEAKER_07]: If you bring in stuff on Gilmore, we're going to be doing my Jackson.
2:26:44
[SPEAKER_01]: No.
2:26:46
[SPEAKER_01]: But to me, Charles, my way.
2:26:48
[SPEAKER_01]: Charles made the way or the money Richardson are the odd men out in this situation.
2:26:53
[SPEAKER_07]: If on Gilmore is a nickel corner, I never in my life viewed him as that.
2:26:59
[SPEAKER_07]: I've been a doctor, maybe the op corner in the league.
2:27:02
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe they move my Jackson.
2:27:03
[SPEAKER_07]: That's close to him.
2:27:07
[SPEAKER_07]: I don't know.
2:27:08
[SPEAKER_07]: I think it's a short, I just, I wouldn't do.
2:27:12
[SPEAKER_07]: I would bring in depth and short-term players.
2:27:16
[SPEAKER_07]: Steph, I'll give more is not the name on that list I want.
2:27:20
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm in here.
2:27:22
[SPEAKER_01]: I would much prefer Justin Simmons.
2:27:26
[SPEAKER_07]: All right.
2:27:26
[SPEAKER_07]: That's where I'll do tomorrow.
2:27:28
[SPEAKER_07]: Are you mad about this?
2:27:29
[SPEAKER_07]: I don't know.
2:27:31
[SPEAKER_01]: I've talked about this on the free for all right.
2:27:34
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I'm a little more.
2:27:36
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'll then come on pretty much said the truth out loud.
2:27:42
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's take a listen.
2:27:48
[SPEAKER_07]: And pay attention to the game rules.
2:27:52
[SPEAKER_07]: Uh, we can't hear it.
2:27:53
[SPEAKER_07]: We can't.
2:27:54
[SPEAKER_07]: No audio.
2:27:57
[SPEAKER_07]: I can't hear it.
2:28:00
[SPEAKER_01]: You can't hear it at all.
2:28:02
[SPEAKER_07]: I couldn't.
2:28:03
[SPEAKER_07]: For the chat make sure to hit this speaker button when you play the video.
2:28:13
[SPEAKER_07]: The rules are let's see
2:28:19
[SPEAKER_07]: up.
2:28:20
[SPEAKER_07]: This is about as cool as our giveaway.
2:28:24
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I won't.
2:28:25
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm using a different, uh, one on apple it up.
2:28:28
[SPEAKER_07]: I can find it.
2:28:29
[SPEAKER_07]: Uh, I've been tomorrow.
2:28:31
[SPEAKER_01]: It's on the Carolina Blitz to scroll down.
2:28:35
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm losing a different, um, uh, I'm losing two browsers tonight.
2:28:40
[SPEAKER_07]: I'm good.
2:28:41
[SPEAKER_07]: I'm uh, searching on X. See if I can find it right on the, uh, you said it's on Carolina Blitz.
2:28:49
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I think I'm pulling up.
2:28:53
[SPEAKER_07]: Top knots production.
2:28:58
[SPEAKER_07]: I'll probably pull it up before you do.
2:29:03
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
2:29:03
[SPEAKER_07]: Right.
2:29:04
[SPEAKER_07]: Right.
2:29:04
[SPEAKER_07]: I got it.
2:29:12
[SPEAKER_07]: You ready?
2:29:14
[SPEAKER_07]: I'm doing it.
2:29:15
[SPEAKER_07]: I beat you.
2:29:18
[SPEAKER_07]: Oh, guys, I got beat.
2:29:20
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, energy inside the stadium without knowing what comes next.
2:29:23
[SPEAKER_09]: Okay, I'm a Carolina Panthers stadium.
2:29:25
[SPEAKER_07]: Oh, put on one second before we play it completely.
2:29:28
[SPEAKER_07]: Is that think he has five.
2:29:32
[SPEAKER_07]: spots, right?
2:29:34
[SPEAKER_07]: Like it's one, two, three, four, five.
2:29:36
[SPEAKER_07]: He's going to get five teams and he has to put like if you put one and two, you can't use two again.
2:29:44
[SPEAKER_07]: Right.
2:29:44
[SPEAKER_07]: Right.
2:29:44
[SPEAKER_07]: I think this is how the game works because then at the end he's like, fuck this.
2:29:48
[SPEAKER_07]: All right.
2:29:49
[SPEAKER_07]: Let's go with it.
2:29:50
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
2:29:50
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
2:29:50
[SPEAKER_09]: I mean, five NFL stadiums.
2:29:52
[SPEAKER_09]: I want you to rank.
2:29:54
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.
2:29:54
[SPEAKER_09]: The energy inside the stadium without knowing what comes next.
2:29:56
[SPEAKER_09]: Okay.
2:29:57
[SPEAKER_09]: I'm a Carolina Panthers stadium.
2:29:58
[SPEAKER_08]: Oh, six.
2:29:59
[SPEAKER_08]: But zero.
2:30:01
[SPEAKER_08]: That's it.
2:30:02
[SPEAKER_08]: And we do it.
2:30:03
[SPEAKER_08]: Carolina will be last, but so.
2:30:05
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, then it's rather big.
2:30:08
[SPEAKER_08]: What I do.
2:30:09
[SPEAKER_08]: Sample will be.
2:30:10
[SPEAKER_08]: Sample will probably be second this right third.
2:30:14
[SPEAKER_08]: What it was other to Dallas Cowboys and Chiefs.
2:30:17
[SPEAKER_08]: Oh, it sees one that was for it.
2:30:20
[SPEAKER_08]: I was not a bad man.
2:30:20
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, this isn't the whole idea.
2:30:23
[SPEAKER_07]: When they five and never do it.
2:30:25
[SPEAKER_07]: They give them a team.
2:30:27
[SPEAKER_07]: You know what, we got to find it, but he gives them
2:30:32
[SPEAKER_07]: and so he has five spots right and so he goes like he puts Dallas at four right because he can't put a team at one right away if he puts that team at one then he can't use one again right so he put a team at three he put the box this
2:30:55
[SPEAKER_07]: he was like trying to take back answers, not take back.
2:31:00
[SPEAKER_07]: That's the revised vision, version of it.
2:31:03
[SPEAKER_07]: But he ain't wrong.
2:31:05
[SPEAKER_01]: No, I said just on the free for all two, like the Panthers have been on such a bad downturn.
2:31:13
[SPEAKER_01]: One of the big issues that we've dealt with in the past few years is opposing fans from other teams basically filling up our stadium.
2:31:23
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, they're having a home game even though they're on the road.
2:31:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Nothing that you said was, you know, off base.
2:31:31
[SPEAKER_01]: However, it doesn't have to stay that way, man.
2:31:33
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a sort of ties back to our conversation earlier.
2:31:36
[SPEAKER_01]: If we can get some good wins and get a couple of good citizens under our belt, Tonya, we have personally seen this stadium.
2:31:46
[SPEAKER_01]: You were there in twenty fifteen when the Panthers beat the Cardinals.
2:31:50
[SPEAKER_01]: You saw what this stadium was capable of being capable of doing.
2:31:55
[SPEAKER_01]: He is not wrong right now.
2:31:58
[SPEAKER_01]: And it hurts more because he's a sage fan talking shit about us.
2:32:03
[SPEAKER_01]: So it hurts a little bit more, but he's not ultimately wrong.
2:32:07
[SPEAKER_07]: Here's the full video.
2:32:08
[SPEAKER_07]: It's done.
2:32:09
[SPEAKER_07]: This, I think, makes a little bit more sense.
2:32:11
[SPEAKER_09]: stadiums.
2:32:12
[SPEAKER_09]: I want you to rank.
2:32:13
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.
2:32:13
[SPEAKER_09]: The energy inside the stadium without knowing what comes next.
2:32:15
[SPEAKER_09]: That was Cowboys Stadium.
2:32:15
[SPEAKER_09]: That was so wonderful.
2:32:16
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.
2:32:16
[SPEAKER_09]: That was three.
2:32:16
[SPEAKER_09]: That was three.
2:32:17
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2:32:17
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2:32:17
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2:32:18
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2:32:19
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2:32:20
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2:32:20
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2:32:21
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2:32:34
[SPEAKER_08]: That's it for.
2:32:35
[SPEAKER_08]: Okay, I put it up.
2:32:36
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, so the fourth field these are lions for two.
2:32:41
[SPEAKER_08]: Hey, what I did already did three.
2:32:43
[SPEAKER_08]: I did three four five.
2:32:44
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.
2:32:45
[SPEAKER_09]: To the last one Kansas City Chief Stadium.
2:32:49
[SPEAKER_08]: Okay.
2:32:49
[SPEAKER_08]: I guess I won.
2:32:50
[SPEAKER_09]: That's your one.
2:32:51
[SPEAKER_08]: I got here.
2:32:51
[SPEAKER_08]: How about this?
2:32:52
[SPEAKER_08]: Carolina will be last.
2:32:54
[SPEAKER_08]: Oh, he says special.
2:32:55
[SPEAKER_09]: Carolina will be live.
2:32:56
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, then it'll probably be what I do.
2:32:59
[SPEAKER_08]: Sample will be sampled with positive meaning.
2:33:02
[SPEAKER_08]: Second Detroit or what it was other to Dallas Cowboys and Chiefs.
2:33:08
[SPEAKER_07]: So he's saying this if he could rank it like in retrospect, it would be Kansas Tampa, which I think that he needs to keep Detroit, but maybe I'm wrong.
2:33:17
[SPEAKER_07]: Kansas Tampa Detroit and oh, Chiefs.
2:33:22
[SPEAKER_07]: One that was four that's not a bad for how about that is Four for Dallas.
2:33:28
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I'm sure it's a little bit of a fuck about any of us now.
2:33:31
[SPEAKER_07]: They're ready for inflated the box.
2:33:35
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, because they don't even have a great home field advantage even when they're won't but the term of the Detroit excitement I'm surprised that he put Tampa that high.
2:33:47
[SPEAKER_07]: I'm not upset that he put us that love
2:33:51
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I mean, it's nothing to be upset about.
2:33:53
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, it's, you could, you could use it as fuel for the fire to hate, you know, Alvin Kumar, but I think I said more than anything more than anything.
2:34:02
[SPEAKER_05]: I think it should be just a call to action to panther stands that, you know, we aren't this, we don't have a home-filled advantage, you know, at this stage in our, our current situation.
2:34:15
[SPEAKER_07]: I think the problem is is that Tampa fans are more rabid.
2:34:20
[SPEAKER_07]: Then Panther fans and yes, they've had a super bowl.
2:34:23
[SPEAKER_07]: They've had two Super Bowl wins, but you live in Florida.
2:34:27
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, good weather.
2:34:29
[SPEAKER_07]: You know this.
2:34:31
[SPEAKER_07]: Not intimidating.
2:34:33
[SPEAKER_07]: But you look, the Panther should not be ahead of any of those teams on the list.
2:34:40
[SPEAKER_07]: as stadium presence excitement.
2:34:43
[SPEAKER_07]: All of that.
2:34:44
[SPEAKER_07]: All right.
2:34:44
[SPEAKER_07]: I don't want to be true, but it is.
2:34:48
[SPEAKER_05]: Did you, did you happen to see a video posted by the Panthers on Friday?
2:34:54
[SPEAKER_07]: Is this about the Superman shit?
2:34:56
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
2:34:58
[SPEAKER_07]: So I had a friend that told me that they went to, he's a younger kid.
2:35:03
[SPEAKER_07]: And he's like at least fifteen years younger than me.
2:35:07
[SPEAKER_07]: And he said, they said, there was a standing ovation for the Superman video.
2:35:12
[SPEAKER_07]: He's like, he's like, I've never been to a movie.
2:35:16
[SPEAKER_07]: Have you guys been to a movie that had a standing ovation?
2:35:20
[SPEAKER_05]: Yes, but Tony, are you thinking about the same thing I'm thinking about?
2:35:24
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know, the Superman Fingers.
2:35:27
[SPEAKER_07]: No, well, I guess, but like the actual Superman movie.
2:35:31
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, yeah, it was good.
2:35:32
[SPEAKER_07]: It wasn't a big movie, though, where somebody had in game.
2:35:37
[SPEAKER_07]: In game.
2:35:38
[SPEAKER_07]: People have been trying to think of a movie that I've been to.
2:35:43
[SPEAKER_07]: And he was like, he was just fucking shook.
2:35:49
[SPEAKER_07]: that people stood up and clapped.
2:35:51
[SPEAKER_07]: That's what his thing was.
2:35:53
[SPEAKER_05]: It was weird.
2:35:54
[SPEAKER_07]: But then there was an old hat there.
2:35:56
[SPEAKER_07]: He's like, this actually used to happen.
2:35:59
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
2:36:00
[SPEAKER_07]: And he said, I was at ET.
2:36:01
[SPEAKER_07]: Think about this is the kids said Superman, we're in twenty twenty five.
2:36:07
[SPEAKER_07]: And I was sitting there trying to think, is there a movie I've been to?
2:36:12
[SPEAKER_07]: Where there was a real evasion.
2:36:14
[SPEAKER_07]: I was like, have I been in one of these moments?
2:36:18
[SPEAKER_07]: And I asked the guy this and he said, E.T.
2:36:20
[SPEAKER_07]: I was like, shit, right?
2:36:22
[SPEAKER_07]: You went back to, eighty four or whatever, standing evations from movie.
2:36:28
[SPEAKER_07]: The kid was shook that Superman hadn't standing evasion.
2:36:33
[SPEAKER_07]: Now, C.K.
2:36:34
[SPEAKER_07]: introduced why we were talking about this.
2:36:36
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, Cody first, I got to ask, when you played it on the Friday, free for all, did you guys get hit with this because of the music?
2:36:42
[SPEAKER_01]: No.
2:36:43
[SPEAKER_05]: Okay.
2:36:44
[SPEAKER_05]: Do you want to play it?
2:36:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I can pull up.
2:36:48
[SPEAKER_07]: So what do we have to look at it?
2:36:50
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, let's see.
2:36:50
[SPEAKER_07]: Okay, tell them.
2:36:51
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
2:36:52
[SPEAKER_05]: So essentially as Tony alluded to on Friday, the new Superman dropped, it was some unknown actor.
2:37:06
[SPEAKER_05]: It's not Henry Caval.
2:37:08
[SPEAKER_05]: It's a brand-new reboot of the item of the story or what have you.
2:37:11
[SPEAKER_05]: It's actually pretty decent.
2:37:12
[SPEAKER_05]: I still like Caval's Superman better.
2:37:14
[SPEAKER_05]: They just never really put him in a position to succeed a Superman in my opinion with the turmoil and all that stuff going on through DC.
2:37:22
[SPEAKER_05]: But anyway, we as Panthers fans can look back on our history and say that there has been one Superman as a Panthers.
2:37:32
[SPEAKER_05]: fan is concerned.
2:37:34
[SPEAKER_05]: And that Superman is very much been absent from anything official from Carolina Panthers.
2:37:41
[SPEAKER_05]: That's, you know, almost to the point where it's so obvious that he's been absent from Panthers, social media from, you know, any retirement speeches from former players such as Greg Olson or Thomas Day has not
2:37:56
[SPEAKER_05]: He's not been there for the, you know, induction to, you know, the Hall of Fame or, you know, Hall of Fame ceremonies or even Ring of Honor ceremonies or anything like that, right?
2:38:10
[SPEAKER_05]: And on Friday with the release of Superman, we've almost got like an olive branch.
2:38:18
[SPEAKER_05]: It feels like where if you watch and you see the comments, it's most people are reading between the lines.
2:38:25
[SPEAKER_05]: Maybe we're starting to repair relationship.
2:38:27
[SPEAKER_05]: All right.
2:38:29
[SPEAKER_07]: Let's see if this repairs.
2:38:54
[SPEAKER_06]: There's so many of them.
2:38:57
[SPEAKER_06]: There's so many touchcans.
2:39:00
[UNKNOWN]: I love you.
2:39:02
[SPEAKER_06]: I miss you.
2:39:03
[SPEAKER_06]: How this is perfect.
2:39:22
[SPEAKER_06]: Alright, currently your thoughts on this.
2:39:34
[SPEAKER_06]: It's almost over.
2:39:36
[SPEAKER_06]: We're going to spill all of it.
2:39:45
[SPEAKER_06]: I guess they're all right.
2:39:48
[SPEAKER_13]: All right, Cody, your thoughts on this.
2:40:10
[SPEAKER_01]: So this is cool.
2:40:11
[SPEAKER_01]: It obviously scratches that nostalgia it.
2:40:14
[SPEAKER_01]: But I think the only reason that they put it out was because of the Superman movie.
2:40:19
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, yes.
2:40:20
[SPEAKER_01]: And there it is.
2:40:21
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a long term.
2:40:22
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like it's very opportunistic.
2:40:25
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I'm hopeful that it leads to something else.
2:40:28
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe we see Cam Newton in the Hall of Honor.
2:40:31
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, maybe we see the team reach out to him and embrace him a little more this year.
2:40:36
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, but as of right now, just the pessimist in me just doesn't think that this is anything more than just a pastor's being like me.
2:40:45
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we had Superman, not this dumb one in the movie coming out.
2:40:50
[SPEAKER_07]: So it's not even that.
2:40:51
[SPEAKER_07]: It's like if you really cared about him, you would have done it.
2:40:57
[SPEAKER_07]: And that like not made a superman, superman, superman montage.
2:41:03
[SPEAKER_07]: It's like, oh, superman is trending.
2:41:06
[SPEAKER_07]: Now we care about Cam.
2:41:08
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, we're superman.
2:41:09
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
2:41:10
[SPEAKER_07]: I feel like this was opportunistic by the Panthers.
2:41:13
[SPEAKER_05]: Here's my argument against this.
2:41:15
[SPEAKER_05]: I am optimistic.
2:41:16
[SPEAKER_05]: I am incredibly encouraged by this.
2:41:21
[SPEAKER_05]: And I think we can look at it.
2:41:23
[SPEAKER_05]: If we wanted to dig a little bit deeper, one thing that even when Steve Smith was playing for us, one thing that was said was Cam Newton was too polarizing and was, you know, he needed to take the lead, right?
2:41:35
[SPEAKER_05]: And I think when you're talking about a team that has been in constant turmoil, you know, with no stability on leadership, no stability on any part of the team and what's in any fashion whatsoever,
2:41:49
[SPEAKER_05]: This is the first year we start to fill that stability, right?
2:41:53
[SPEAKER_05]: And the culture is starting to come back.
2:41:55
[SPEAKER_05]: It feels like it feels like there's a genuine shift in mindset when it comes to panther strands about this team.
2:42:01
[SPEAKER_05]: And now that there is starting to be some foundation with regard to our team moving forward, you can start to bring in
2:42:10
[SPEAKER_05]: you know, you can have the idea of having Kim Newton be a, you know, an ambassador for the, the brand is no longer a distraction, right?
2:42:23
[SPEAKER_05]: And I think that I think there's some value in that.
2:42:26
[SPEAKER_05]: And I think that when you look at what Matt ruled it, I think no matter what happened, you bring Kim Newton back into the fold with Matt rule under the, under the helm.
2:42:34
[SPEAKER_05]: He did that once and it just didn't work out well, right?
2:42:38
[SPEAKER_05]: Obviously, we brought him back and then that,
2:42:39
[SPEAKER_05]: that failed that first year.
2:42:42
[SPEAKER_05]: And then, you know, you're gonna run into another situation.
2:42:45
[SPEAKER_05]: You try to do the same thing while Frank Reichs under.
2:42:47
[SPEAKER_05]: It's just so much, you know, I don't know, so much turmoil in this, you know, teams, you know, last five years, I think this could be the olive branch that starts us in that direction.
2:43:04
[SPEAKER_05]: They tell me, they don't have to be pissed about this.
2:43:09
[SPEAKER_07]: Cardi.
2:43:09
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't think so.
2:43:10
[SPEAKER_05]: I think.
2:43:10
[SPEAKER_07]: I don't think you took my superman shit.
2:43:14
[SPEAKER_07]: You went whenever you liked me, you liked me.
2:43:17
[SPEAKER_07]: Like, when I dab, when I do this, you love me.
2:43:21
[SPEAKER_07]: When I, I guess I'm back.
2:43:22
[SPEAKER_07]: Remember like a, I'm back.
2:43:25
[SPEAKER_07]: A pair of those fucking pump that, but they distance distance themselves.
2:43:29
[SPEAKER_07]: No, the camp can be corny.
2:43:31
[SPEAKER_07]: We talked about cameras, crying, like whatever it is.
2:43:35
[SPEAKER_07]: I think this is opportunistic.
2:43:40
[SPEAKER_07]: by the Panthers.
2:43:42
[SPEAKER_07]: I don't like it.
2:43:42
[SPEAKER_07]: I would say, how about this?
2:43:45
[SPEAKER_07]: Is I loved watching Cam do that to remain joined?
2:43:48
[SPEAKER_07]: I still will fight over this bitch.
2:43:51
[SPEAKER_07]: People don't even know why I love them so much.
2:43:53
[SPEAKER_07]: But like people are like, oh, he wanted that.
2:43:56
[SPEAKER_07]: I said, man, he was a transcendor.
2:43:59
[SPEAKER_07]: He made the dab a thing.
2:44:01
[SPEAKER_07]: Sure.
2:44:02
[SPEAKER_05]: They agree.
2:44:02
[SPEAKER_07]: Like he fucking, you can talk shit about his stupid fonts.
2:44:07
[SPEAKER_07]: Or whatever he does, I'm going to show you some grandma pictures.
2:44:10
[SPEAKER_07]: I'm all in board.
2:44:11
[SPEAKER_07]: He's ahead of the curve.
2:44:13
[SPEAKER_07]: I feel like the Panthers are holding onto his tailcoats.
2:44:21
[SPEAKER_07]: I used to date this hot girl.
2:44:22
[SPEAKER_07]: So let me show you these pictures that date with this hot girl.
2:44:25
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it means in this scenario, not that they've been overly, right.
2:44:30
[SPEAKER_07]: In this moment, just in this moment, they're like, oh, now we can talk about camp because Superman's out and it's trying to tell if they end up being more.
2:44:39
[SPEAKER_01]: where they do try to have more interaction between the team and him.
2:44:42
[SPEAKER_01]: Then yeah, could also them, and this was the precursor to it.
2:44:46
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, I'm on Tony's side, but does it does seem very opportunistic and.
2:44:52
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I guess.
2:44:53
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, I'll show you guys this is last week retarded.
2:44:59
[SPEAKER_07]: It was a very tough conversation for me when we talked about cam and the cringe.
2:45:04
[SPEAKER_07]: And then Cody tells me cam was cringe.
2:45:07
[SPEAKER_07]: And I was so mad.
2:45:08
[SPEAKER_07]: I'm most walked out of my own fucking podcast, right?
2:45:12
[SPEAKER_07]: Like all of that.
2:45:13
[SPEAKER_01]: But so we did the comments under the video.
2:45:16
[SPEAKER_07]: I clip the video, right?
2:45:17
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
2:45:18
[SPEAKER_07]: So I clipped our segment.
2:45:20
[SPEAKER_07]: And then I did an AI asked AI to make a threat of like a thumbnail.
2:45:30
[SPEAKER_07]: And this is where like AI is so it's like incredibly different than it was a year ago, right?
2:45:38
[SPEAKER_07]: So now it's like if you want to make a thumbnail, like add the pictures you want to help.
2:45:45
[SPEAKER_07]: So I said this, this is a picture I add.
2:45:48
[SPEAKER_07]: This is me.
2:45:49
[SPEAKER_07]: This is how much I love Camden.
2:45:52
[SPEAKER_07]: You remember when he went grandma's days?
2:45:54
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, yeah.
2:45:56
[SPEAKER_01]: He looked like a mom attending a PTA meeting.
2:45:58
[SPEAKER_07]: Right.
2:45:59
[SPEAKER_07]: All right.
2:45:59
[SPEAKER_07]: So this is so I added two pictures.
2:46:02
[SPEAKER_07]: I added this picture where I'm going grandma, bonnet.
2:46:06
[SPEAKER_07]: And then I added, let me see, hopefully I can just do this is where did the camp pick?
2:46:15
[SPEAKER_07]: So I got that one camp pick with the bonnet.
2:46:17
[SPEAKER_07]: Right.
2:46:18
[SPEAKER_07]: So I put my pick with my bonnet.
2:46:21
[SPEAKER_07]: where I get, I don't think my girlfriend said I can't believe you do this shit.
2:46:27
[SPEAKER_07]: She said literally you go to games like that.
2:46:29
[SPEAKER_01]: That's real dedication.
2:46:31
[SPEAKER_01]: She'll know nothing about that.
2:46:32
[SPEAKER_07]: I love can.
2:46:33
[SPEAKER_01]: That's how the whole deal is trying to talk to his children.
2:46:37
[SPEAKER_07]: She said, like, and she's gonna understand.
2:46:40
[SPEAKER_07]: But look at the thumbnail.
2:46:45
[SPEAKER_07]: Where is the thumbnail?
2:46:46
[SPEAKER_07]: Oh my God.
2:46:47
[SPEAKER_07]: And it pulled up.
2:46:51
[SPEAKER_07]: Alright, here it is.
2:46:52
[SPEAKER_07]: The thumbnail.
2:46:53
[SPEAKER_07]: Look, this is what AI did, which is awesome.
2:46:58
[SPEAKER_07]: And terrible.
2:46:59
[SPEAKER_07]: I'll make you cry.
2:47:03
[SPEAKER_07]: Look at what it did about face.
2:47:07
[SPEAKER_07]: It changed the actual picture.
2:47:09
[SPEAKER_07]: It changed the actual picture.
2:47:14
[SPEAKER_07]: Look at my face.
2:47:15
[SPEAKER_07]: It changed the picture from me being ridiculous to
2:47:21
[SPEAKER_07]: Fuckin' Danny, who's a, not Danny, who's a guy from Casino?
2:47:29
[SPEAKER_07]: I'm so mad.
2:47:30
[SPEAKER_07]: Look at this, it made me... Robert De Nero.
2:47:32
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, look at that, yeah, I'm Robert De Nero, frowning.
2:47:35
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, De Nero, she thought it was a hit job.
2:47:38
[SPEAKER_07]: Look at that, yeah, it's like, this is, this is the best shit.
2:47:43
[SPEAKER_07]: Do you know how many laughs and tears have made that my girl, she said, send me this picture.
2:47:49
[SPEAKER_07]: It was like,
2:47:52
[SPEAKER_07]: So ridiculous and awesome.
2:47:54
[SPEAKER_07]: All right, Cody, we got to be done.
2:47:56
[SPEAKER_07]: I hope.
2:47:59
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, yeah, we can be.
2:48:00
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, well, what's nice.
2:48:01
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll tell you, Bridgewater.
2:48:03
[SPEAKER_01]: Did you all hear about this?
2:48:04
[SPEAKER_01]: This is Bridgewater.
2:48:06
[SPEAKER_07]: This is for money when you pay your quarterback to million dollars.
2:48:11
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, no, it was it was it was a coaching high school football team.
2:48:17
[SPEAKER_01]: Teddy Bridge Roger's been suspended from Miami Northwestern from for providing impromisible benefits to his players, which included Uber rides, physical therapy, pregame mirrors recovery help, field, paint, and more.
2:48:34
[SPEAKER_01]: And everybody's pretty upset about this.
2:48:38
[SPEAKER_01]: did to show what he did.
2:48:40
[SPEAKER_01]: It's been fourteen thousand for training camp over nine thousand five hundred on team.
2:48:45
[SPEAKER_01]: Pride sets for pregame meals recovery.
2:48:53
[SPEAKER_07]: Uber's for the players not get hookers.
2:48:56
[SPEAKER_07]: He did not.
2:48:57
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and people made the point too that part of what they need to say or whatever the organization.
2:49:03
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the spending him is saying is that he's providing unfair.
2:49:07
[SPEAKER_01]: advantage that not all other teams.
2:49:10
[SPEAKER_01]: But that's also the nature of it.
2:49:12
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a place called IMG Academy that spends millions of dollars from boosters that they get all types of advantage.
2:49:21
[SPEAKER_07]: So I think high school players can be paid now by law, right?
2:49:26
[SPEAKER_07]: Like as you can pay college players now the recruiting high school players.
2:49:32
[SPEAKER_07]: It feels like an old hat moment.
2:49:35
[SPEAKER_07]: The guy actually did shit.
2:49:37
[SPEAKER_07]: That's like, basically, he shouldn't just donate it to the high school where they did the shit.
2:49:43
[SPEAKER_07]: Right.
2:49:43
[SPEAKER_07]: If he went and said, I'm going to give forty thousand dollars to the high school and then they use that for the sports program.
2:49:54
[SPEAKER_07]: nothing seems to have I thought he was coaching college.
2:49:57
[SPEAKER_01]: No, he was coaching high school football and this is his alma mater graduated high school from that place in the prairie.
2:50:04
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not a great area.
2:50:05
[SPEAKER_01]: So he was hoping you know helping seven hundred.
2:50:11
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but remember, do you have kids that, you know, that could either go on their own and get into a bunch of other shit or you can buy it Uber and make sure that they get directly to their house.
2:50:21
[SPEAKER_01]: This is one of the things that I'm fully on to your bridge or on your side on this one.
2:50:26
[SPEAKER_01]: It's supposed to be not a response saying that he's not, they can't technically suspend them.
2:50:34
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, we'll have to see how it plays out, but most of them are not.
2:50:37
[SPEAKER_07]: How about this, is that I, this isn't, I like him least when he was with us.
2:50:42
[SPEAKER_07]: I like him more than he's no longer with us.
2:50:45
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, but like this doesn't, this story doesn't make me just like him more.
2:50:49
[SPEAKER_07]: No, no, no, no.
2:50:51
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh man, do you want to, uh, I suppose up.
2:50:53
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, let's do it.
2:50:55
[SPEAKER_07]: There's the long.
2:50:57
[SPEAKER_01]: I bad.
2:50:58
[SPEAKER_01]: Now go have.
2:51:07
[SPEAKER_05]: I saw so I saw somebody very quick that I thought that good no go ahead.
2:51:13
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, damn was the ice up pit right there.
2:51:15
[SPEAKER_07]: It's the longest run in segment on the longest run in Panthers podcast where we tell someone the ice up tough enough to get it together.
2:51:24
[SPEAKER_07]: It's our moment where we can if I can bust anybody up our homies to see Smith.
2:51:32
[SPEAKER_07]: Who's got it going.
2:51:33
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm very boring tonight.
2:51:35
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't have any images.
2:51:36
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just icing up Elmo account on X Twitter whatever you call it.
2:51:41
[SPEAKER_01]: They got hacked and you started posting a bunch of anti-Someday.
2:51:45
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm almost like that.
2:51:47
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, almost the official Elmo account.
2:51:50
[SPEAKER_01]: Did you see the rock?
2:51:54
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Grok turned into mecha.
2:51:56
[SPEAKER_07]: It's like hate shoes.
2:52:00
[SPEAKER_01]: Kind of in the atmosphere right now.
2:52:01
[SPEAKER_07]: That's too big of a nose for Twitter.
2:52:04
[SPEAKER_07]: You know, Zia's mother.
2:52:05
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a bunch of clips of him saying.
2:52:08
[SPEAKER_01]: Tards of wild chicken.
2:52:10
[SPEAKER_07]: All right.
2:52:11
[SPEAKER_05]: So Elmo is a secret.
2:52:14
[SPEAKER_05]: So I'm gonna, you know, since I'm, I did my ice up for the bill last year last week.
2:52:20
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm gonna go ahead and go full fledged into what Cody was the surprise I didn't jump into.
2:52:24
[SPEAKER_05]: Now that there's been a full week of this lack of any clarity on this Epstein situation, I'm iceing up this administration.
2:52:34
[SPEAKER_05]: Like the double down that is taking place right now, when there is so much of a focus, this, the people that he has put into power were putting on this Epstein list being released, things like that, right?
2:52:51
[SPEAKER_05]: And all of a sudden, they're saying there is nothing, but there's so much contradiction in this, even since February about what's available and what's not.
2:53:01
[SPEAKER_05]: And now they're saying there is no evidence of anything.
2:53:04
[SPEAKER_05]: But they found ten thousand hours or ten thousand videos of this so-called, you know,
2:53:13
[SPEAKER_05]: These videos that are graphic and damaging to children, right?
2:53:18
[SPEAKER_05]: And so you're saying that you can't identify a single person on any of those videos.
2:53:24
[SPEAKER_05]: That's the irritating, you know, a bit problematic to me.
2:53:28
[SPEAKER_05]: So I'm icing up this entire saga because up to this point, I felt like they've been hitting home runs.
2:53:36
[SPEAKER_05]: You know, I just felt like in the here we are one of the most important things to most probably one of the most bipartisan beliefs that that should be released of any other issue in the entire country.
2:53:50
[SPEAKER_05]: And we're going to fumble at this hard.
2:53:53
[SPEAKER_05]: Like, this is what was voted for.
2:53:55
[SPEAKER_05]: This is one of the things.
2:53:57
[SPEAKER_05]: If you want to talk about this.
2:53:58
[SPEAKER_05]: You voted for this was one of the primary things people voted for.
2:54:03
[SPEAKER_05]: You know, it's not.
2:54:05
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm not saying that it was the number one issue, but it certainly wasn't number ten.
2:54:10
[SPEAKER_05]: And so I think that we need to get to bottom of it.
2:54:13
[SPEAKER_05]: And here's the thing people are saying that it could destroy our society.
2:54:17
[SPEAKER_05]: And you know, you're going to have stock market go absolutely ass and I and all this stuff.
2:54:23
[SPEAKER_05]: That may be true.
2:54:24
[SPEAKER_05]: That may be true.
2:54:26
[SPEAKER_05]: When you would.
2:54:28
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I do not want my entire, I don't, number one, I don't want my country built on a foundation of that type of sin.
2:54:37
[SPEAKER_05]: And that is, and that is, that is just unacceptable.
2:54:43
[SPEAKER_05]: And we cannot just say that because these people are important, we, they're, this is the two big defails situation we ran into with the banks in two thousand.
2:54:52
[SPEAKER_05]: It's even worse because it's a moral part.
2:54:55
[SPEAKER_05]: That's what I mean is now what you're doing is teaching a lesson that as long as you're powerful enough, we won't actually ever do it.
2:55:03
[SPEAKER_05]: Which has always been the case to be fair.
2:55:06
[SPEAKER_07]: We ought to know it, but this is Blake and our fan.
2:55:08
[SPEAKER_05]: This is blatant and now it's, you know, but it was something that was somewhat unspoken previously.
2:55:14
[SPEAKER_05]: And now it's just being forced fed to us and we're being told to act like we're okay with it.
2:55:22
[SPEAKER_05]: that the response I'm sorry as someone who has again been more or less in you know, please with the way that this administration has run things up to this point.
2:55:37
[SPEAKER_05]: I am not going to be surprised if there is some documentation on that putting him on that list with his response to what
2:55:44
[SPEAKER_05]: with what it with his response when he was being asked about the absteen list.
2:55:49
[SPEAKER_05]: He's like I didn't get no absteen lived.
2:55:52
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, he always saying, oh, it's it's a it's a democratic conspiracy like Russia.
2:55:57
[SPEAKER_05]: It's a information with there was no list, but now what he's saying is why you interested in a list written by Democrats.
2:56:06
[SPEAKER_05]: And so that's concerning to me because one of the arguments is if the Democrats wrote it as a way to try to damage you, why did they not release it?
2:56:18
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, I think it's not even just a list is like, man, like, if you met the dude, right, like if you said, hello to this person, are you on the list?
2:56:28
[SPEAKER_07]: Right, like, because he's a very like, are you involved?
2:56:33
[SPEAKER_07]: Right, we know that, you know, they know who's involved, who was not involved.
2:56:38
[SPEAKER_07]: problems.
2:56:38
[SPEAKER_07]: It's not like, oh, I just met him at a gala and all of a sudden, I'm on the list.
2:56:44
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
2:56:44
[SPEAKER_07]: Right.
2:56:44
[SPEAKER_07]: I said, we can be more strategic or careful in how we talk about what that list means.
2:56:53
[SPEAKER_07]: You know, I call them people because they all make us feel terrible.
2:56:57
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
2:56:57
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, it's it's right now.
2:56:59
[SPEAKER_05]: I think it's it's oddly a twist in there.
2:57:04
[SPEAKER_05]: You know, it's it's when when you have
2:57:07
[SPEAKER_05]: Trump coming out on his own social media platform saying let's not tear down what we've built up to this point and all of this I could I could care like those are important things but guess what the man is not more important than the movement
2:57:23
[SPEAKER_05]: and I would rather the movement be more successful and not be built on an entire mountain of lies that our entire government and in society has been built upon apparently based on the fact that they're saying that it's too problematic to release this.
2:57:38
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
2:57:40
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, and then I got to leave as a little bit earlier.
2:57:42
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to tell a close-up.
2:57:43
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, of course.
2:57:44
[SPEAKER_07]: I set up goes to myself and love Island.
2:57:48
[SPEAKER_05]: Who are you into it?
2:57:50
[SPEAKER_07]: Uh, no.
2:57:52
[SPEAKER_07]: Well, no, no, no, no, no, I'm not into it.
2:57:56
[SPEAKER_07]: First, I never even knew this show existed, right?
2:58:00
[SPEAKER_07]: But my setup goes to this is that my kids watching the show love island walk in
2:58:07
[SPEAKER_07]: So I was seventeen, fourteen, twelve.
2:58:11
[SPEAKER_07]: And yeah, man, like there's different things going on in my life, you're never getting stuff.
2:58:15
[SPEAKER_07]: And my son, seventeen, like, I walk in, they're watching this show.
2:58:19
[SPEAKER_07]: This is seven weeks ago, or not even that much.
2:58:22
[SPEAKER_07]: And like five weeks ago.
2:58:24
[SPEAKER_07]: And I said, I don't know if you should be watching this with your young sister, right?
2:58:31
[SPEAKER_07]: And my son says, no, it's not that bad.
2:58:34
[SPEAKER_07]: It's not, it's not big deal then.
2:58:37
[SPEAKER_07]: And I'll over parent, right?
2:58:39
[SPEAKER_07]: My idea is this is like if you try to over parent, then you can get the opposite result.
2:58:48
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
2:58:49
[SPEAKER_07]: So I trust, I won't say a trust in my son, but I was like, okay, fine, just watch this show.
2:58:56
[SPEAKER_07]: And then they're watching it.
2:58:57
[SPEAKER_07]: They're cheering about like they're all watching it.
2:58:59
[SPEAKER_07]: And it wasn't that bad.
2:59:01
[SPEAKER_07]: And then there was one episode where I was like, this fucking
2:59:06
[SPEAKER_07]: some gangster as host yet, right?
2:59:08
[SPEAKER_07]: Like it being people are like, I mean, it's like, they're sexualizing it.
2:59:13
[SPEAKER_07]: And I was like, man, it's okay, my seventeen year old, okay, you're running into the world, not that big.
2:59:19
[SPEAKER_07]: But I'm looking at my twelve year old, like, you shouldn't be what?
2:59:22
[SPEAKER_07]: I got mad, not mad, but I was like, I don't think I should be endorsing this.
2:59:26
[SPEAKER_07]: I shouldn't be like cheering for you to watch this show.
2:59:31
[SPEAKER_07]: Right.
2:59:32
[SPEAKER_07]: So I don't know how to deal with it as a parent.
2:59:35
[SPEAKER_07]: They really into it.
2:59:36
[SPEAKER_07]: The whole world into it, I guess.
2:59:38
[SPEAKER_07]: I just learned about it.
2:59:40
[SPEAKER_07]: But my eyes, it really comes to me because I asked my kids that go in, because I'm trying to be involved in them, like, wanting them to care about me and like, I'm like, so I sent them all a text and I said,
2:59:56
[SPEAKER_07]: Who do you think will, who will win, love island?
3:00:01
[SPEAKER_07]: Who do you think will live, win, love island?
3:00:07
[SPEAKER_07]: And their answers were way different than mine.
3:00:11
[SPEAKER_07]: And they were right.
3:00:15
[SPEAKER_07]: And I'm mad at myself for everything in hoodo.
3:00:18
[SPEAKER_07]: I would say this.
3:00:21
[SPEAKER_07]: I'm distracted by giant buds.
3:00:24
[SPEAKER_07]: I'm icing myself up is that hudda is a nut job that giant butt distraught.
3:00:30
[SPEAKER_07]: It was fucking nuts.
3:00:31
[SPEAKER_07]: I was right in the beginning.
3:00:34
[SPEAKER_07]: They should be watching this.
3:00:35
[SPEAKER_07]: I hate love Ireland.
3:00:37
[SPEAKER_07]: I hate myself, or even no one who these people are.
3:00:40
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3:01:00
[SPEAKER_05]: And talking about training camp with the rookies arriving next Tuesday.
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