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- 0:00GPS Audiovisual Radio every Wednesday at 19 hours. The protagonist is the Argentine cinema
- 0:10in the look of Julia Montesoro, a treasure, a program with a gender
- 0:14perspective that nucleates the country' s film industry. Argentine cinema will never be
- 0:30the one it is until now. We, from audiovisual GPS, continue to
- 0:39be committed to a culture as a pillar of the development of a society,
- 0:46a culture that is plural, accessible, free and supported by the State for
- 0:54its development. Welcome to GPS Audiovisual Radio with the journalistic production of Norberto chap
- 1:00and the driving of those who speak to them, Julia Montesoro. Agustín Carbonere
- 1:07is the director, producer and screenwriter of the Santo, a film that tells
- 1:14the story of a healer who attends in the background of a gallery. It
- 1:19is divided into five episodes that somehow count recreate this journey of glory and sunset
- 1:33through which the protagonist of El Santo travels. The film stars Uruguayan Roberto Suárez
- 1:42and the cast also features Elisa Carricajo, Claudio Dapasano, who died in January
- 1:49of last year, Benjamin Mateo and José Fowell. El Santo premieres tomorrow at
- 2:00the Cacodelfia cinemate and here we are in the studios of audiovisual GPS, radio
- 2:07on radio topic train with Agustín Carbonere Hola. How are you Augustine in a
- 2:13taste hello here, a very great taste and thank you so much for inviting
- 2:15me. Well, the point of departure of the Saint is desire. Meanwhile,
- 2:23it is a film that emerged in a completely independent way and here we
- 2:31are now arriving at the premiere. What led you to embark on a proposal
- 2:36like this look at desire. I see you say very good words, because
- 2:40you just said it and I loved it and I' m going to start
- 2:45using it to describe the trip a little bit and wishes an excellent word,
- 2:49because that' s the main motivation to make the movie. It was a
- 2:54very desired film in the sense that I needed to make it beyond history.
- 2:59You needed somehow, not a consecration, but I definitely needed to express myself
- 3:05in a medium, like a feature film, and it was an effort.
- 3:08Obviously, it was a sacrifice, also speaking half in the tone of the
- 3:13film, but yes the desire. That was the biggest engine and the need
- 3:15also to make it and find a story in a way too and also tell
- 3:23the story from one side and also produce it in a way. That was
- 3:28also important. That too was a very big wish, because I follow the
- 3:34wish was also filming in a way. I' m used to filming.
- 3:37I am the principal director of commercials where the industry is giant and I really
- 3:43wanted to do something more of an author as long as not only the style,
- 3:47but the way to produce. I wanted something more crafty. So that
- 3:51was also very much desired And the truth that I am very happy with what
- 3:55we came to, with what was done now, of all the possible readings
- 4:01offered by the Holy One. What did you try to tell? What aspect
- 4:08you sought to highlight I say is curanderism. It' s good, this
- 4:15development of a path, the ascent and the fall somehow looks at what I
- 4:21wanted to tell the most in reality, the faith thing is how this idea
- 4:27of esulterism is something innate in me. It' s like he' s
- 4:30in me every day and it wasn' t so much the subject of the
- 4:31movie. What' s more, I tell you that' s the location
- 4:34of the film, because it' s like the situation I think I stay
- 4:41more with and I' m going to paraphrase you again is with the idea
- 4:45of ascent and sunset and ascent I' m married, and also the idea
- 4:47of how one becomes a product no, because it' s a little what
- 4:50happens to the protagonist. And this thing that happens to us every day,
- 4:53that we are self- promoting, well right now is and how one is
- 4:59to be in marte rians elisa and becomes a tool of the market and how
- 5:04that sacredness that one has in life is being lost. That would be,
- 5:09as I see it, the thing that interested me most and to have this
- 5:11curve. I always wanted to have that Yocasso ascent character curve and sometimes defines
- 5:16it in English, because it' s like more direct than this Rise and
- 5:20Fall thing. That curve interested me very much in someone who sacrifices his talent,
- 5:27sacrifices his integrity to become a product. That' s what interests me
- 5:30the most. Obviously, faith is something that I am a fanatic of everyone.
- 5:35It' s something I' m very interested in. He' s
- 5:38uterism, I' m fascinated by curanderism. I studied a lot for the
- 5:44movie. I also did a lot of research, but it' s not
- 5:50a movie about it, but that' s the context, that' s
- 5:54the context. Yes, yes, absolutely, but something led you to raise
- 5:59this protagonist with that metier let' s say yes, I had beyond that
- 6:05it is in my interest all that is he. This as I said,
- 6:10the whole mystical part, I always loved it and I had good. I
- 6:16have like a past where I cured my asthma when I was a kid,
- 6:23with a healer. I mean, I have like a story with this.
- 6:29But anyway, it was very natural for me to talk about that subject,
- 6:34that that is the context, that is made, to the basis that education
- 6:36is made. It was almost ordered by how my interests are and without spoiling,
- 6:48as it is usually said in the middle no, what the Holy See
- 6:54then speaks of. That' s crazy. I thought I was talking about
- 6:58everything I actually wrote it one. For me there is one very important thing
- 7:02and it is I studied it with Mauricio Cartoon and you saw no that and
- 7:11I got this idea from him and good all his students. I can imagine
- 7:14this idea that you don' t start writing. I want to make a
- 7:18statement and I started to write, have a generating image and start based on
- 7:24that on the way I realized it was a story about self- exploitation.
- 7:27You saw the thing I saw a chulhun that now went off in car fashion.
- 7:31This thing I told you before, but you know what happened to me,
- 7:36that I finished watching the movie the first cut and it was kind of
- 7:40magical that I saw as a relationship with some kind of little tribute to my
- 7:46dad. The way it went was crazy. It' s not something I
- 7:50wanted because at all, but I saw the movie I said in the relationship
- 7:55with the child, no, not obviously the tragic part afterwards, but there
- 7:59was something about that invisible relationship and that connection and that the boy, somehow,
- 8:05was his great pillar and his last place in the face of madness.
- 8:11That was something that the film ends up talking about that good my family,
- 8:16when they saw her somehow, you tell me if you did this. Because
- 8:18of this and they kind of found the silos and people who know me also
- 8:22found that and I didn' t want to end up talking about it,
- 8:26too, apart from this thing that I was discovering while I was writing that
- 8:31I was telling you before, that was a surprise effect. I mean,
- 8:31no, I didn' t think I was gonna miss some of this,
- 8:35something that got away from me. I didn' t write it. I
- 8:37saw everything and mounted it in a way and then alvalo I realized and it
- 8:43' s something that surprised me on an artistic level, that it was very
- 8:46nice, a father relationship and a relationship to talk about pataniness, this idea
- 8:54of the son as actually salvation and, at the same time, this sacred
- 8:58connection. I' m saying nych the sacred word. But well, even
- 9:01if the film is going to notice, because it' s something that impresses
- 9:05me that the links also speak. The bond. Yeah, it' s
- 9:09a bond story, it' s a clearly bonded story, it' s
- 9:13a good story. It also gives passo and here nothing a special tribute to
- 9:20Claudio, a great actor and step. You saw that it' s usually
- 9:26said no good. Those of us who shared the set with him saw it,
- 9:31but good. I' ll take it off a lot. But the
- 9:33relationship also of this bond of faithful friendship that at some point is broken as
- 9:39an exploration of this of the mother. The mother is also overprotective Leona who
- 9:46makes elisa. It' s like a little bonding study, without going to
- 9:54the everyday part. It is as a mark in this story that it is
- 9:58medium- large, but it does define the bonds. It' s a
- 10:01know- how now how you got to a Uruguayan protagonist. The story is
- 10:07spectacular, well, I don' t know if spectacular, but the story
- 10:11and there were other possibilities there was another possible. I actually started the movie
- 10:16by writing with an actor in my head later, but something really crazy happened
- 10:22to me in the pandemic. I was watching filming in the middle of a
- 10:28pandemic. You saw I couldn' t get out and hook up on TV
- 10:33and the Luis incident of Rotter, which I said by the way. I
- 10:35send him a greeting that I met him now in Montevideo and I told him
- 10:39this too. Obviously, and I' m watching the movie, the movie
- 10:43just started and I see Roberto' s face I say who this guy is.
- 10:45I can escape from all Argentine actors, but 90 percent of them I
- 10:48know. The whole under. Who is this guy? I don' t
- 10:54know him and I see myself as the film appeared Roberto Sores, Uruguayan actor.
- 10:58I keep thinking. I see it a little more and I go is
- 11:01spectacular the face of the gestures, the micromovements. I say what a good
- 11:03actor you want to meet and I think I sign a lot in Uruguay and
- 11:09I have many friends there. I write to you I say what you pass
- 11:11to Roberto to be yes, obviously, I' m signing with him now
- 11:16or what good would happen to me is the phone so I don' t
- 11:20want to make a long and I' m thinking ah but call it.
- 11:20You already told me the movie was going on. It wasn' t that
- 11:26it was the next day, while Rotter' s movie then I saw it
- 11:30well, not me, but I say the movie was going up and I
- 11:35was with this conversation. He hands me the phone. I tell you how
- 11:37I' m going to write it or write it to you is your handle
- 11:41that I was told and I actually wrote to you. Roberto I' m
- 11:43from Argentina, I' m Agustín I' m a director who was going
- 11:46to be my first film. I saw you We know what it' s
- 11:48about. He answers me. This is the healer that I know and tells
- 11:52me to do it. Let' s do it in four messages later I
- 11:58traveled to Uruguay also in the pandemic there that there was nothing there, you
- 12:01couldn' t move a pin and I met him and I met him we
- 12:07became friends. In fact, I was in Uruguay now and I was with
- 12:09him and we ended up being friends, because he' s a first guy,
- 12:13very talented, but also another guy who' s amazing to work with
- 12:20and a very committed actor, I say very creative. Throwing lives all the
- 12:22time we went to study hypnosis, we did several things and it was spectacular.
- 12:28There is in the film in El Santo there is a very visible intention
- 12:37not to address the subject of curanderism of alternative medicines in a sarcastic way and,
- 12:48at the same time, that raises disturbing questions at times in history.
- 12:54How you managed to get around that place if you wanted it or easy and
- 13:01it was the most important thing. I mean, well, I don'
- 13:03t know if it' s the most important thing, but when we got
- 13:05together with eva padro, which is the friend and I was lucky that she
- 13:11' s the producer, we said let' s watch this movie. Let
- 13:13' s not be tempted to show something bizarre. I don' t mean,
- 13:20let' s not look from above at someone who goes, neither to
- 13:24the Holy One nor because sometimes that resource is simple and very effective. And
- 13:28it is but the truth that to make one I said it the other day,
- 13:31to make a movie, to do that I don' t do it
- 13:35to make fun of someone. It' s like an effort to make a
- 13:39movie, but for that it' s like delusional and it was something that
- 13:43we were very committed at all times not to look from above. That was
- 13:48a very key thing, not to put yourself above the characters. No,
- 13:54no, no, but little by little it' s judging them all,
- 13:58yes, not really. I wasn' t interested in that in judging,
- 14:03let alone in a movie. Not yet. Obviously, in life he escapes
- 14:05judging people, but making the titanic effort to make a movie the way we
- 14:09did to ah look at people doesn' t interest me. The truth and
- 14:16it was something very much like one of the purposes of the film, as
- 14:22of the slogans. No. We can' t make fun of it,
- 14:26we can' t get a bizarre look at it, because, for example,
- 14:30sometimes they tell us about the egg ah that' s a pavada you
- 14:31put, not the egg. That' s why we studied far back stops
- 14:35that we put the egg that at a time when they use it to determine,
- 14:39diagnose. It is used from shamanic Russia, from Siberia to Latin America.
- 14:46It is the diagnostic method used by shamans and healers in Mexico. It
- 14:48' s something that, apart from going through all of us weren' t
- 14:54very conscious, but we didn' t make the movie for that, to
- 15:01show ah Mira, we' re more alive, because now you won the
- 15:07award for the best director in last year' s Baffisi international competition. What
- 15:11did you find out at the time that you hadn' t noticed? It
- 15:16' s a movie. That' s an excellent question you' re asking
- 15:20Look, thank you. No no because it also happened to me that when
- 15:24I saw the first film, which was also Baffís, and the time there
- 15:28I realized that a bond was broken you saw as the one I edited,
- 15:33the one I thought with the editor and what I know suddenly, the film
- 15:37flew and had its. Now he has his own life. I saw the
- 15:41festivals with the film with Eva, but it' s like an independent being.
- 15:45First that happened to me to have like some kind of testet. I
- 15:48don' t know how to say it about taking life and then recognizing.
- 15:52That was a recognition that I really didn' t expect, a recognition that
- 15:58greatly touched me. We didn' t even have it in him Well,
- 16:06that' s where you saw it. It was a lot of surprise and,
- 16:11obviously, a lot of pride and nothing is a very nice feeling.
- 16:15Now the film comes from touring several international festivals in very different places among themselves,
- 16:25I do not say Brazil, Serbia, Russia, China, among others.
- 16:32How the public reacts acquired such different audiences not, On the other hand,
- 16:38it acquired another meaning. The movie' s great. What you say.
- 16:41I was afraid when we went to China, especially we were invited to
- 16:47Marco Muller. The frame didn' t interest you in this movie that I
- 16:52came and I told you Eva we' re going to China. Not in
- 16:55understanding, obviously, prejudice I say no, I don' t know that
- 17:00there isn' t and and I went to China and discovered that there is
- 17:04one perennial thing all over the side that is well understood the theme of the
- 17:11film or the context and we understand this whole category of the rise and folo,
- 17:15as you said, the ascent and sunset is as it is a subject
- 17:21that is very tangible in all cultures, either by the popstars, or by
- 17:22sportsmen. Then it was very, very surprising, it was performed very well
- 17:29in all places in Serbia. I was also impressed by the fact that it
- 17:34is an objectively more airtight culture than we do and I don' t know
- 17:41the movie they keep giving and a full room and like and won the prize.
- 17:44In that case I was lucky enough to win the award to the public,
- 17:47I say I was less surprised. On the other hand, nothing less
- 17:48is a worse than the public prize is the most important. I think it
- 17:52' s festive. I think so. I think so. Well, then
- 17:57we invite you to enter into this highly award- winning story, which has
- 18:04gone through festivals and now reaches Buenos Aires, Cinearte, Cacodelfia, El Santo,
- 18:11Agustín Carbonere' s film with Roberto Suárez, Elisa Carricajo and in his
- 18:18posthumous work, Claudio da Pasano. Tomorrow then it premieres at the Cinearte,
- 18:23Cacodelfia and good go to see it. As we say, always watch cinema
- 18:32in the Argentine cinema and like this you have to see it in the cinema.
- 18:37Thank you very much, thank you very much for the invitation. We
- 18:40' re moving forward in audio- visual gp, radio. Have faith in
- 19:10me. You have to believe me desperate. Surrender, forget about medicine,
- 19:32science. Those are superstitions worship me destroy me make me immortal. El Santo,
- 20:04a film by Agustín Carbonere, awarded the best film in the BAFFISI international
- 20:11competition. The Holy premiere only in Salas. Tomorrow a long- awaited film
- 20:32by Nicolás Gillavedra, starring Zoe josh Van and Sophia Gala Castiglione, opens as
- 20:38the sea, with a special participation by Carmen Maura. This is a screenplay
- 20:45of Zoe John herself with Gustavo Gersberg, who addresses a reflection on identity from
- 20:52the explosive discovery, I would say that it provokes a transformative ia. We
- 21:02' re with soe joshe van. Thank you so much for joining us today.
- 21:04How are you? Hi Juliano. Thank you for seeing me. It
- 21:08' s a pleasure to see you here after a year. Then, exactly
- 21:12well, let' s continue to renew then as a runaway, with movies
- 21:19and stories, once a year, at least exactly good. What was the
- 21:22origin of the story of how the good sea long ago, about seven years
- 21:30ago, I took classes with Gustavo de Screen and because of something that had
- 21:34happened to him far away, that is, it was like the Laura was
- 21:40similar, but not the story. A partner of mine from the High School.
- 21:42I told Agustín Gus I want to do theater. Please write me a
- 21:47play and he looks at me as if writing to me, let' s
- 21:51write it together for what you' re selling this space. And there we
- 21:55embarked on writing a play that we had premiere date Juli seventeen de ju Bueno,
- 22:00I don' t remember what year in until trilce we were going to
- 22:04premiere. And he just summons me to Nico Nicolás Gillavedra to make the universe
- 22:11of Anne Frank that we had tours for a whole year doing performances, without
- 22:15stopping four times a week crazy and I had to well postpone this project as
- 22:21the sea and then reappeared with the desire that it be a movie. And
- 22:26since with Nico we already had a very beautiful bond and he has a sensitivity
- 22:30as director and as a man and as a very particular person, I decided
- 22:36to introduce him. Yeah, first he said he didn' t make a
- 22:40little wish and then he said yes and here we are. I mean,
- 22:42we' re gonna premiere on March 28th in the movies. I just can
- 22:45' t believe it. Yes, moreover, in cinemas at a time that
- 22:52it is so important to reach the public through the halls, that it is
- 22:57resistance. I say that' s what you saw being able to release a
- 23:03movie now, be able to do, be able to film, execute,
- 23:08let' s say make dreams come true out of the cliché, not like
- 23:12really right now that we' re seeing the country with culture, with so
- 23:18much risk, where it seems like the least important thing to premiere the movie
- 23:22in the cinema and that people, they' re going to see it?
- 23:22Did you see people go to the living room? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah?
- 23:26Yeah? Exactly It' s absolutely important. And how you warned that
- 23:32this story had elements to transform into a movie. It' s a question.
- 23:38Actually, I think it was a bit of a whim, like I
- 23:44said, no better than that movie. We made the changes that were necessary
- 23:48to make it into a movie. He always had something audiovisual. It wasn
- 23:52' t like three acts or five acts, but it was all screened,
- 23:56with screens back. In fact, with Gustavo I was seventeen and we went
- 24:02out polonium together with my camera, to film scenes to put on the screen
- 24:07for the play, that is, to the day from which background, clear
- 24:11background exactly looks. There was always something audiovisual. In fact, we'
- 24:17re mostly audio- visual. With Gustavo I later made theater, but most
- 24:22of all we are audiovisual. And I think that was Gainor' s whim.
- 24:26I think that movie and well then get it no and good without spoiling
- 24:34let' s say, as they say now, not what the sea is
- 24:37about, as the sea good as the sea equals. It is interesting to
- 24:41spoil it, because in reality the secret ends up being an excuse for what
- 24:47really matters from the film, which is the journey of it No Road Movie,
- 24:52which is actually their journey that even I do not like to say is
- 24:53not even a journey of transformation, that, of course on every trip there
- 24:57is a transformation, but it is more than anything a journey of acceptance.
- 25:03They mate with one type of bond and end up with another. But not
- 25:07by the label, not by now she' s my sister, now she
- 25:11' s my mother now, but something appears that' s what really matters,
- 25:15that' s the truth. The truth appears. And when one is
- 25:18in the truth, when one can live from the truth, it is that
- 25:22one is free and in some world that is freedom, but to know what
- 25:26identity one has. No, well, there' s the tera screaming as
- 25:32much freedom as possible. I mean as close to one' s identity as
- 25:38possible is freedom. And this is a movie that' s a search for
- 25:42the identity of who I am, who surrounds me who I want to stay
- 25:47with. The secret ends up being the excuse for them to pull the path
- 25:52of truth. Of course, yes, it' s true, it'
- 25:59s essentially a story about identity and about ties. The grays always taught us
- 26:04the extremes of the bonds white, black, Mom, Dad, Mom,
- 26:08good, Mom, bad, And suddenly there' s a world in the
- 26:14middle of the grays, yeah, and there' s as many ties as
- 26:18there are people in the world. Then why everything has to have a perfect
- 26:22name. There is no such thing as the exact label. That is,
- 26:27there are different ways to link, even within motherhood, there is different maternal,
- 26:33even within that, you can not be mother and mother equal, yes,
- 26:37yes, such as, as? Now how much of you there is
- 26:44in blue the character that you compose this girl that looks so messy, so
- 26:53tough and good. Inevitably, when you write a piece you put a lot
- 26:59of one when you also mean one, it is impossible to separate 100%.
- 27:03I think the actors are trying to break up as much as we can.
- 27:07But it is still our body and in the case as a screenwriter,
- 27:11of or still is. It' s still my words. But there was
- 27:17a lot of hard work working to get a lot out of soé, not
- 27:23because I am very politically correct. I' m very much that I'
- 27:30ve always been since I was. It' s weird that you see me
- 27:33in a bad mood, weird that you' re giving me a bad answer.
- 27:34It is rare that that happens then to go to that adolescent place like
- 27:41you had to remember a little bit of adolescence and remove there clearly, one
- 27:47as a teenager answer such, yes there is the defensive all the time.
- 27:49It' s all a lot, it' s all like the biggest tragedy
- 27:53of your life. There' s a tragedy of lying here anyway. Yeah,
- 27:57in some way of a tragedy, but I think there was like a
- 28:00path in verse, like trying to pull Sobe out a little bit and put
- 28:08this teenager who sucks everyone else an egg. You saw. Yeah, yeah,
- 28:12yeah. Now for moments, even though she' s the youngest of
- 28:17the two, let' s say we' re not going to say the
- 28:22link, but she' s the youngest of the two, she looks the
- 28:26most adult. Yes, in relation to the character who composed sophia gala,
- 28:32not entirely, and they were also decisions. You saw how adolescence is underestimated
- 28:37a lot by young people. Yeah. I think that in this case,
- 28:42in fact, it is something that I was very much wondering how it reacts.
- 28:45I remember, a spectator at the Malaga Festival finished the film and I
- 28:51want to ask you a question. Why blue reacts like that and doesn'
- 28:55t start screaming and breaking everything and reeks and it' s like that'
- 29:00s what we expect. But you can also be a teenager and take things
- 29:04differently. I say why we always expect the teenager to do everything on instinct
- 29:08alone. There are other kinds of reactions, too, and sometimes you'
- 29:14re paralyzed. You saw such terrible news, before a truth or a lie,
- 29:18and I think I could run the teenager from the rebel that he always
- 29:25reacts to like beginning to respect people at all their ages. Now, as
- 29:33the sea poses topics like the friendship between Paula, the character of sophia gala
- 29:40and blue, but there is also a goal to talk about this that you
- 29:48were just commenting on the search for identity specifically of women. What the issue
- 29:55of identity implies for you. Well, that' s enough of a gagina.
- 30:00I think I' m saying it' s very important, especially now
- 30:04that we' re here. It' s coming on the 24th of March.
- 30:07I also think it' s very important. It is a search for
- 30:14everyone, it is a collective, individual, but above all collective search.
- 30:17Identity is built not only through one, but also through the others. That
- 30:21' s why in this movie Blue you can' t build your identity on
- 30:22your own. She needs Paula to build her identity, she needs her family,
- 30:27the people who acquire her, who surround her that good is also that.
- 30:32Sometimes there aren' t that many people. Sometimes it' s just
- 30:34the people you have in front of you And if you don' t forgive
- 30:40or if you don' t accept, that which you have in front of
- 30:44you remains only at some point, and to me, personally, it'
- 30:48s a subject that always moved me a lot as a personal search, as
- 30:55a teenager, I think that even all people keep looking for our identity until
- 30:59the day we die, we die even capable of death also who knows.
- 31:00Well personal, I also say with Mico and Augustia we have just finished filming
- 31:03a documentary about the flights of death of the dictatorship that premieres this year.
- 31:10Also good my aunt director of the Park of Memory for many years. It
- 31:15' s a topic that crosses me on a personal level, that I feel
- 31:22that also at some point, telling a teenager' s journey in search of
- 31:30his identity is also touching other types of identities and also who knows. Someone
- 31:33sees that and says che. I also want to find out about who my
- 31:37father is, who my mother is, who I am, well, yes,
- 31:45in this case through a fiction, a journey, but well, just
- 31:52now, you said also this documentary that you just finished, which is another
- 31:57way to think about identity as well. Now how you get to the public.
- 32:02Not like the sea had. She was awarded in Miami and that was
- 32:07her world premiere. Yes, after they have just presented themselves in Malaga,
- 32:15as you commented, just what returns were found there in so different audiences.
- 32:22On the other hand, what they told you, what happened, that'
- 32:28s very interesting. That' s what we started in Miami, which is,
- 32:32that we won the best Latin panorama movie award. Then we went to
- 32:36the Punta Festival in this one and won the award to the public, an
- 32:38award that is very special. And then Malaga and as you say, they
- 32:43' re so different audiences. I don' t know. In Miami it
- 32:45happened to us that people laughed a lot at scenes that they could. I
- 32:49mean, the movie has a lot of comedy tones. Yeah, we didn
- 32:52' t expect it that way And all of a sudden it' s so
- 32:59nice to see what they find, I say viewers, as they complete the
- 33:02experience of making a movie, they just give it the sense that you'
- 33:07ve been looking for it and that you try to put it on all the
- 33:07time as a filmmaker. And all of a sudden, in a moment you
- 33:09let go that the film is people' s, the movie is the audience
- 33:14' s, the movie' s spectator' s. And that completes that
- 33:16psychomagic experience, which is a film and then without bad in many people tearing
- 33:24crying many questions of this that told you why reaction like this or why the
- 33:30issue of identity and motherhood impacted them much more. It' s very nice
- 33:38to see those differences of spectators and now the illusion of premiere in my country,
- 33:45I get to see it my friends, my family, my people,
- 33:51my colleagues, those reactions that you have very anxious for good what you think
- 33:58can be more. Thank you, I' m Hutch Van. We are
- 34:04now with Lucía Celes after winning the award for the best Argentine film of the
- 34:12last bfphysic. In Yung terminal, Lucia' s name was given an unusual
- 34:16visibility and relevance this year. His new production will be the inaugural film of
- 34:24the Buenos Aires International Independent Film Festival, which will begin on April 17.
- 34:30We' re with Lucia Celes. It' s a pleasure to welcome you
- 34:36here on Gp SE Audiovisual Radio. Lucia, how are you, how are
- 34:39you? If you can get a little closer to the microphone, because we
- 34:45' re not listening well. That' s where we hear you perfect.
- 34:50Thank you very much. Well private scuol. Alfonsina Stornie is quite an enigma.
- 34:57There are no images, no prior information, much less press gazetilla what
- 35:00it is. Look at me It happens to blame the fonda. Storni is
- 35:13like a central video of myself. And when they are central videos, if
- 35:17I talk about that video, that hurts me I prefer as they are already
- 35:25central videos I prefer neither speak and that video speaks, I mean that'
- 35:30s that. Uh- huh Uh- huh I' m counting for myself
- 35:37on your bull. Well done, yes, sorry. The only thing I
- 35:43wouldn' t forgive you, the only thing that would add up to you
- 35:46is that I consider that. I consider that so I am one of the
- 35:52few people who can live up to alfunfina torn and that and at one point
- 35:57appears once in a collective by Necochea and it was heartbreaking and beautiful that there
- 36:05was just a monument to those to a monuments with a flag of Chile that
- 36:08said Chile Country of poets. I mean, you don' t know the
- 36:15impression that it is and comes a collective with my car and I go but
- 36:19see a monument that says Chile country of poets. Then I went down,
- 36:22I recorded that monument a lot and I put it in this video aha and
- 36:30you worked with an elaborate script or previously or you opened up to the possibility
- 36:37of creating new situations during the filming or as facts like this appeared that you
- 36:39are relaxing. Yes, I record very quickly and I always go with a
- 36:45lot of fragment that I want to always be recorded. They' re a
- 36:51lot of bad guys, franklings, you' d want them to be recorded
- 36:54that I was going to record. And that and about that is that,
- 36:59like, it' s all written and good and then it' s that,
- 37:06but no one knows anything, I get out of what' s going
- 37:08to be recorded myself. And well, that' s how the videos aha
- 37:15are triggered and you always work with the same group of people or mostly yes,
- 37:25and that' s why good, because we love each other, we
- 37:30respect each other. Besides, some of them in this video are from the
- 37:34other series of videos, which is the technology could chain to that now there
- 37:40are zero six parts and then, well, that' s what we already
- 37:46know. I' m just as excited to add aliens, that' s
- 37:55people who didn' t expect them to anyone or the people themselves, those
- 38:04who add up yes yes and somehow you also feel safer in saying, in
- 38:09that contor, in that family context, and I' m safer than I
- 38:14am. There' s no one there Look at you That' s good.
- 38:20It' s impossible to be safer than me in aesthetics, I mean,
- 38:24I swear they don' t exist there. Aha, aha, I
- 38:28mean, I don' t give my problems, I have, I have,
- 38:31I mean, all my scourges as a mountaineer with everyone, but it
- 38:37never goes through security, because safer it is impossible aha that is, when
- 38:45you already decide what is the axis of what you want to relate you go
- 38:50out there and right, yes, yes, yes, because you don'
- 38:53t know what I want, everything I record. I mean, I work
- 38:54just as well as wanting to infinity what I do that and and there are
- 39:01so many things that I want, that are all from myself, that'
- 39:08s what becomes very simple and that' s why no one is safer than
- 39:12me. In fact, well about that that makes a clarification that there was
- 39:16just a picture of me there with a book next to it, with a
- 39:22book of the Vilariño idea, that I am a person that I respect very
- 39:25much bilaiño day, but it just hurts me to appear a photo with a
- 39:30book, because I never sit anyone. I' m a person who'
- 39:32s never going to quote anyone in his life, because it' s only
- 39:37up to me then to appear with a book I relate to other people who
- 39:43in aesthetics make appointments and that starting with weddings and other two stupid things that
- 39:51I can' t tolerate. It' s good, a very particular view
- 39:54of yours also along with that security that you described this way of looking at
- 40:04the world and but that I' m always focused looking at that aha that
- 40:08' s not that, you don' t know how focused I' m
- 40:10always. I mean, and this is kind of so that you guys value
- 40:16each other more. Saturday night I was in a hospital lying down and I
- 40:21was noticing, I mean, I had an infection, an emergency. There
- 40:24I was in the hospital lying down, scoring as always and apart, I
- 40:31was resatisfied and that' s the one hundred and twenty- eight scoring in
- 40:38the hospital, the heavy doctor who was writing a novel was lying down,
- 40:43because it didn' t come any more and then I returned in the one
- 40:45hundred and sixty to Khan. I mean, always focused. Then of course,
- 40:50anyone could think seen from outside is in trance, in creative trance,
- 40:54I would say, no, no, no, of course, yes,
- 40:57but that' s coast. It' s the trance. For me it
- 41:01is the interruption of that, that is, the grand. For me it
- 41:06' s li and he doesn' t know how painful that is, because
- 41:08that' s it. I am always concentrated and subject to my orders.
- 41:15Well, you know, I read out there that you have a lot of
- 41:22quaternities, that you write a lot that you' re recording this that you
- 41:28' re counting, no, that it' s a permanent record of situations
- 41:35and that I' m a graphist, well, I' m a classical
- 41:38guitarist, I' m a pantanionist too, but what' s more to
- 41:42me is classical guitarists, music and the people I admire the most in the
- 41:42world. It' s an insult to me to compare a video director with
- 41:45a classical guitarist, always a lousy one, a classical guitarist the most discretite.
- 41:52It' s better than a Vineasta or a filmmaker seven points, that
- 42:00' s it, that' s me. It' s what most respect
- 42:02musicians are, because I know the sacrifice it is and how difficult it is
- 42:07and it' s the most beautiful thing to study music and it' s
- 42:08what costs me the same. But what I was going to do is and
- 42:13I' m good and I' m hot. Then I' m here
- 42:15all the time. That' s not knowing how cute the foma is and
- 42:19I' m all the time scoring out to be the way it' s
- 42:23common, yes, it' s well- being aha or all good to
- 42:28be better. That said, no, no, of course, yes,
- 42:30of course, yes, that was very important for creation, well, but
- 42:35since very Chiquita I had the problem of being very locked away that outside of
- 42:44my passions, I do not distinguish other passions. But from Chiquita I sometimes
- 42:49realize that deformity, because from Chiquita it happened to me that I did not
- 42:54conceive of the other things that I was passionate about and that otherwise I did
- 43:00not and that is that yes, yes, but well, it is fine.
- 43:05This is a way of being in the world. Lucia is very grateful
- 43:08for this contact. We will then be on the 17th of April, at
- 43:15the inauguration of the Baffisi, with the premiere of the private School Alfonsina Storny
- 43:22and then we will be revealed many unknowns. Thank you. See you later
- 43:29on GPS audio- visual radio. Now tomorrow do not come to an end,
- 43:37but I think that early new will come out so dull by the inauguration
- 43:40of the new temple that I ordered that the last of Sunday we will stop
- 43:45at the resolved one. We can' t go straight. I can drive
- 43:47if you' re tired. You' re not here to talk fomental.
- 43:51I need to teach you things. Let' s still walk safely and you
- 44:01can about patience. The good lord is not going to abandon us now.
- 44:06You hear a Joseph or anything I need, his wife says no. No.
- 44:16She' s not my daughter Elena' s wife, how much she
- 44:23calculates broken need, sir I get her in olaca. Don' t worry
- 44:25about us. We have time and deep are you. Nowhere did we preach
- 44:32praise. Lord visions brothers, blessings, brothers his hand, but what is
- 44:44your name. I' m Emilio. You don' t get the punch.
- 44:46You don' t get the punch. I' m worth just like
- 44:49Lenny. God gave you a mighty beautiful spirit. I' d like to
- 44:53invite José Emilio to a baptism. Here where Pastor Saca is hidden with his
- 45:00head. In the village there are many evangelicals, just as you insistant are
- 45:09not for me where Lene would walk that day of jo the wind that sweeps
- 45:16away with direction of Paula Hernández, acclaimed in Toronto and San Sebastián. The
- 45:23wind raging premiere in Salas Thursday 21st of March. Almudina González is the great
- 45:40female protagonist of the wind that sweeps away Paula Hernández' s shocking rod move,
- 45:50in which she shares leading roles, no less than with Alfredo Castro,
- 45:57Sergi López and Joaquina Acebo, we are with Almudena González. It' s
- 46:01nice to meet you here on GPS audiovisual radio Almudena how you are. Thank
- 46:06you very much, well, you guys, good here. Well, let
- 46:10' s start at the beginning. We' d say how you got to
- 46:15the script of the wind that' s raging and what your first impression was.
- 46:19Well, first of all, I had read the book as measured by
- 46:24a chance at two thousand and eighteen in college They gave it to me to
- 46:30read it. I saw the National University of the Arts, I studied acting
- 46:32bachelor' s degree and we were given that book along with barkers, Selva
- 46:38Almada' s two novels to work monologues and I had chosen bricklayers. But,
- 46:44well, I had stayed very with that universe and at the beginning of
- 46:47two thousand twenty- two I got a first casting to do so, to
- 46:53film my house and as a monologue of presentation of Lenin' s character,
- 46:59and the truth is that I recognized myself as having read the novel and I
- 47:02like to do balmada and I also like Paula' s cinema that had seen
- 47:06his films and I said like what you want with all this. And it
- 47:09was a very long casting process, about five months. It was five stages.
- 47:15Let' s say one per month where I was getting comfortable. Well,
- 47:21you' ve got a face- to- face moment, I knew
- 47:27her, Paula, then a scene with an actor. Then, I finally
- 47:29traveled to Uruguay to do as the last casting and in that last stage,
- 47:34there they gave me the whole script to read it. That happens a little
- 47:39bit, that with the actors, unless they still don' t have a
- 47:44reputation, a trajectory that' s like they don' t give you a
- 47:47script and say yes very nice, I feel like doing it or I don
- 47:52' t feel like doing it, but the process is like a little more
- 47:57confidential. At one point, I had the advantage that I had read the
- 47:59novel note, so I knew more or less where the world was going.
- 48:02And the truth is that it was a huge joy when I was vice to
- 48:07something that had been left and how was the bond with Paul Hernandez, with
- 48:14Pau of all that time and already when you stayed and started to build this
- 48:19character. The truth is, from the beginning, that first casting I met
- 48:24her, something very special happened. You saw what I was like to say,
- 48:30that monologue and he was already in front of me and he was listening
- 48:35to me, asking me questions. There was like a connection to love us
- 48:40and to understand a little like what world each one brought after we had a
- 48:46whole process of essays of about a month and a half together with Maria Laura
- 48:52Berge is the casting director in which well we read the script many times.
- 48:58We started to find the character in an accent as well and then the filming
- 49:05continues that was six weeks, but well we were living two months in Uruguay.
- 49:09Then we also share a lot of everyday life. And the truth is
- 49:14that for me Paula is a teacher and also a mother' s trade and
- 49:17also a friend' s trade like but I don' t know we had
- 49:25a very special work and human connection. Well, your role, your Leni
- 49:30starring is consecrated in more than one aspect. I would say, because it
- 49:37is the only female protagonist of relevance and at the same time Paulo Hernández wanted
- 49:45it to be told since passing through the look of your character the story.
- 49:50How you built this Leniy. The truth is that it was a huge challenge,
- 49:59because it is a character very different from what I am, since I
- 50:02am religious. He lives in the country. She' s a very shy
- 50:07living woman, she has other tools. I mean, there' s a
- 50:12strong composition thing there that at least I personally had never gone through that before.
- 50:16Then it was like getting intensely into that world and at first it was
- 50:22like trying to understand it rationally. And I remember some first talks with Paula
- 50:27and Maria Laura about how not to judge this character and also how difficult not
- 50:30to do it, not to put it in a victim' s place,
- 50:36not to flatten it, not to say it is a poor piva. I
- 50:38mean, it would be like the first thing and then something like when I
- 50:45got into the process. It tells me how I incarnated him seen there were
- 50:47times when maybe I wasn' t filming and I was starting to talk like
- 50:52Lenny and he was laughing and he was saying you' re talking like a
- 50:54man and what' s up. And the truth is that it' s
- 50:58a character that taught me a lot of things like a little bit, the
- 51:04simplicity of life and observation. And I don' t know how I feel
- 51:12that a little Lenny chose me as well, not as it was. There
- 51:17is a dialogue, half mysterious, half mystical and which part of Lenny Te
- 51:24transports are very different. You just said it, but to your own experiences
- 51:30how much reality there is in that fiction. This girl is a teenager,
- 51:38well, I mean, there' s a little bit of a very deep
- 51:44question that has the character that I think as a teenager more, but I
- 51:50still have it, I lived it and also well, something like the eternal
- 51:59history of humans, the bond with the father, not like something in general.
- 52:05The bond with a father and what he can teach you in a father
- 52:08and also what a father can destroy you. And obviously, the telenic link
- 52:14in the reverend has nothing to do with the bond with my father, luckily,
- 52:19but well. I don' t know there, too. I feel
- 52:22like I learned a lot of things and even in a strange way, the
- 52:28bond with my dad changed after I had filmed this movie like there was.
- 52:31There is a way to pass through those human stadiums that, luckily, acting
- 52:37and cinema make us, at least us actors, embody and interpret that good
- 52:42are also like a little clues to life and the greatest challenge what was for
- 52:49you of acting with this character. Yeah, and I think the accent you
- 53:00know the accent is something that, in fact, nowadays, watching the movie,
- 53:07I' ve seen it like fifteen times, it' s something that
- 53:10gives me insecurity. I don' t like to hear these questions from him.
- 53:15Well, and you, actress, like to see you. It'
- 53:17s hard for me, it' s not hard for me to see myself,
- 53:22but in this movie with some accent, I' m a reporter and
- 53:27we had to find there as an accent among riano, but half mixed,
- 53:30half Uruguayan border, as something of mine that didn' t exist. Yeah,
- 53:31he' s really honored about that aspect in the movie. Yes,
- 53:36yes, thanks to Mariana García Guerreiro, who was my faculty teacher and my
- 53:40foniatra and vocal coach in this film. He kissed her. That was a
- 53:46little bit of a skirmish, a lot of rock, not just for me,
- 53:52but for the four of us. I say how uay had a moment
- 53:55accent on the previous one, especially the shooting more than he did, during
- 53:59which time it was. As a good thing, we' re starting and
- 54:02we' re talking like that It' s built in. Sure? Sure?
- 54:04Sure? Sure? Well, that' s one of the many hits
- 54:08the wind' s got. Now you had the opportunity to watch the film
- 54:15in Toronto, in San Sebastián, in Mar del Plata and now in its
- 54:20commercial premiere, and I guess you' ve seen it again in Buenos Aires
- 54:27for six months. To this part, how did your perception of the film
- 54:31change? It changed your perception of the movie In principle, you find new
- 54:37meanings. Yeah, yeah, actually, it did me good to see her
- 54:44so many times and with different audiences. No, as obviously, it'
- 54:46s not the same. How I received the film people in Canada, in
- 54:51Spain, in France, at the Mar del Plata Festival and now at nothing.
- 54:57The people who live here in Buenos Aires who bought a ticket go to
- 54:59the cinema, as well as my friends and my family who saw it.
- 55:05I believe that I am also very much affected by the perception of others,
- 55:08not as something in front of the material. I say the first time the
- 55:13VI was a first cut. Still not finished in Paula' s house on
- 55:19a computer imagine. Of course it wasn' t the best circumstances. Claro
- 55:25was more or less in March last year, a year ago and then the
- 55:31projected VI. Nor was it finished on a small screen, but projected in
- 55:39July last year. And then, well, everything about the festivals and blah.
- 55:45The truth is that I' m always finding him new things, new
- 55:52reviews good and bad. I also say I recognize that I' m critical
- 55:55of the film. It' s not that I' m absolutely in love
- 56:00and I say this one hundred percent spectacular as I love it. I love
- 56:04that this material exists. And there are also things that I don' t
- 56:09like what I do, that is, there are things that I know for
- 56:14myself are a pillar that is like the direction, the basic script, the
- 56:20photography, the performances of my colleagues are also impressive, as this was told
- 56:23by the composition. They are characters like delicious, not from watching and acting
- 56:29and that we don' t usually watch in movies, and that also seems
- 56:34to me like a treasure of the movie Not sometimes the cinema that I am
- 56:38more costumbrist, it' s more like with a realistic code and here there
- 56:45' s like a meaning to that. Yes, it runs from that of
- 56:47all those places, perhaps more common, more obvious, to just delve into
- 56:54these links, not father and son, this and with these characters is at
- 57:01times disturbing, lovable, incomprehensible sometimes, but well, there is Tuleni to
- 57:08bring that look. Then Salmudena González, the co- star, the great
- 57:16co- star of the wind that sweeps away this film that we have already
- 57:22recommended and we continue to recommend, by Paulo Hernández, with Alfredo Castro,
- 57:29Sergi López and Joaquín Acebo, which can be seen in theaters, to see,
- 57:34to see. It' s in negomon, they' re in Palermo
- 57:37cinema. I know that I already have the scoop that at least until next
- 57:40Thursday, that is, until Thursday, April 4, it will continue,
- 57:45it has its schedules. You can only see it in movies. So go.
- 57:49The cinema is exactly in the interior of the country, also if they
- 57:53do not live in Buenos Aires and nothing. I also take this opportunity to
- 58:00say that going to the cinema is important at this time, not only for
- 58:05banking the film, but for banking the national cinema, the national culture,
- 58:10which is being threatened and underserved, and that it is important to continue supporting
- 58:19it, embracing it and defending it. Yes, exactly. Thank you so
- 58:22much for joining us Almudena tremendously a very big kiss. Thank you very much,
- 58:27Julia. We continue on GPS audio- visual radio and we are saying
- 58:36goodbye until next Wednesday here on radio train topic and you know, as we
- 58:43say always and today more than ever, see without Argentine until next week.
- 58:46And thank you for joining us. This was GTs audiovisual Radio. We expect
- 59:13you next Wednesday at 19 hours by radio thirty or train