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What's Happening at the Courthouse: The unpredictable lives of two men · "What's happening at the Courthouse?" with Rameez Khan

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  Speaker 1: For some prison is where it ends. For all, court
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  Speaker 1: is where it begins.
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  Speaker 2: They say, no TV show, this is the real world
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  Speaker 2: and this.
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  Speaker 1: Is what's happening at the courthouse. On KFM Mornings with Ramies.
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  Speaker 3: Hanging about in Goodwood Court yesterday, Remiz asking everybody one
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  Speaker 3: simple question.
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  Speaker 1: What are you doing at the court house today?
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  Speaker 4: I'm in contempt of court for being in contempt of
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  Speaker 4: court for a matter that was thrown out in twenty
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  Speaker 4: twenty four, so I didn't come to court the first
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  Speaker 4: time when the case was postponed. I hate all through
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  Speaker 4: Zob's wall and you.
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  Speaker 5: Eat it all through a wall like obviously with a
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  Speaker 5: call with my hand, what yeah, dude, with your hand,
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  Speaker 5: with my hand one hundred percent like a dry hold
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  Speaker 5: in yes, But I thought it was a brick wall.
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  Speaker 1: Now, why would you hit a brick wall.
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  Speaker 4: So someone hit me through the face and they told
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  Speaker 4: me that they were security for the center. Right then
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  Speaker 4: I went to go wait for the manager. Eventually, after
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  Speaker 4: like ten to fifteen minutes of waiting, I was like
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  Speaker 4: trying to get their attention, so I slapped the wall
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  Speaker 4: and it broke. No, I hit a hole straight through
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  Speaker 4: the thing. But I thought I was just going to
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  Speaker 4: make a noise. I hit a hole straight through into
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  Speaker 4: the water store. Okay because someone hit me through the face.
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  Speaker 1: For no reason.
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  Speaker 4: No, because someone pushed in front of me, which then
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  Speaker 4: I obviously said something about. The situation escalated.
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  Speaker 5: So there was an altercation with another customer in the shop.
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  Speaker 5: Security comes along and then he hits you in the face.
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  Speaker 1: You then knock this hole.
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  Speaker 4: And noise and get you one's attention. I got locked
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  Speaker 4: up for it on a Sunday. I had literally just
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  Speaker 4: come out the church.
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  Speaker 5: And you went to the bottlestore after the church. Yeah, okay, okay,
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  Speaker 5: no judgment.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah work.
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  Speaker 4: Since then, I went a whole year twenty twenty five
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  Speaker 4: without getting locked up.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, that's good.
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  Speaker 6: First year and ten years.
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  Speaker 1: For the last ten years, every year you've been locked.
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  Speaker 4: Up anger management issues one hundred percent on your boot. Yes,
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  Speaker 4: the moment the whole was through the wall, I realized, okay,
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  Speaker 4: that's malicious damage to property. Yeah, so I went and
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  Speaker 4: sat down. I told them to find the police please.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so you admitted guilt.
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  Speaker 4: Basically afterwards, I went there, I apologized to the manager.
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  Speaker 1: I offered to pay.
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  Speaker 4: They said, no, that whole section got revamped case was drawn.
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  Speaker 4: You have to still appear so that it can get
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  Speaker 4: thrown out.
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  Speaker 5: You didn't appear on that court date, and then you
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  Speaker 5: became content.
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  Speaker 4: Really, I had to go to Balbel police station for
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  Speaker 4: something and then the detective they were speaking to the
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  Speaker 4: hype typed in. So I then willingly from there was
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  Speaker 4: told and they were gonna lock me up in Balvo.
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  Speaker 1: That Friday, they let me go.
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  Speaker 4: Then I went and handed myself in at Monday at
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  Speaker 4: table of you went to go and see the noble
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  Speaker 4: of you. I have to I don't want the law
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  Speaker 4: on my back. I don't want to look over my shoulder.
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  Speaker 4: The case got postponed again for me to then have
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  Speaker 4: diversion done.
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  Speaker 1: For the necro program.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, yes, Then that day I came to court
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  Speaker 4: and then I disappeared. So then what.
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  Speaker 1: Why it happened?
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  Speaker 4: And I just like, I'm dealing with a lot.
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  Speaker 5: You just didn't feel like being here, and now you
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  Speaker 5: were a gain in contempt of court for.
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  Speaker 4: Being in content. I'm supposed to be at nine. I
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  Speaker 4: don't got your at corpust ten. I'm busy. Was like
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  Speaker 4: anger management courses seeing a social worker. Yeah you know,
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  Speaker 4: I'm putting in the work. I always want to grow
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  Speaker 4: as a human being, but I we all fuck up
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  Speaker 4: in life.
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  Speaker 1: It happens there everyone, Thank you very much for your time, sir.
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  Speaker 6: Thanks man.
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  Speaker 1: Guys, what are you doing at the courthouse today?
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  Speaker 6: Two years ago, myself and my friend come from a
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  Speaker 6: party in town. My friend ordered to beat but he
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  Speaker 6: ordered to be like the night before Didy and this
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  Speaker 6: person was just like, you'll come through. So waited and
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  Speaker 6: waited because at the time, you know, we was legal.
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  Speaker 6: It was like kind of legalized it looks. And then
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  Speaker 6: upon his arrival, then he just said, okay, it's outside.
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  Speaker 6: And then we got back from the clubs. You waited
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  Speaker 6: for about five or ten minutes and then literally so
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  Speaker 6: shouting to us.
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  Speaker 1: This guy that delivered the weed.
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  Speaker 6: And then it became like an argument. I also him
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  Speaker 6: looked at me, just get stubble, just get the red
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  Speaker 6: and then it's done. Then he's telling me, okay, I
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  Speaker 6: have to pay for his time, to pay for extended
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  Speaker 6: this and ex that. So he asked the monitors and
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  Speaker 6: then and then I'm like find myself, say aund then
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  Speaker 6: for like a joint. He gets out of the cour
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  Speaker 6: and then you get he wants to like domitate me
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  Speaker 6: or something like that, because now I said, no, I'm
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  Speaker 6: not I'm not putting you.
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  Speaker 1: Fine, we don't want anything from you now.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, we don't want nothing from you now. And then
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  Speaker 6: it became physical. My grandmother called the police because she
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  Speaker 6: was running waters all yeah, fight outside. This person tells
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  Speaker 6: the police. No, he's an uber driver and a gun
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  Speaker 6: and and I stabbed him. No, I did not have
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  Speaker 6: a gun. I didn't even own a gun. The police
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  Speaker 6: arrived and he we stopped him in the middle of
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  Speaker 6: the road trying iajac him. They find read in his pockets,
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  Speaker 6: they find outing us no whipping that suppose you stabbed him.
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  Speaker 6: But he throws the vehicle check at us. It hits
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  Speaker 6: his window on the left Fastinger side.
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  Speaker 1: Broke his window. Broke his window.
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  Speaker 6: So there we go. That's Melissa' damage property that we did.
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  Speaker 6: Why would I do that in front of my own home?
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  Speaker 6: And I'm a realistic agent and my boys and I
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  Speaker 6: across it over with my name and my number. Then
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  Speaker 6: we're at the station. They say they're gonna arrest him
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  Speaker 6: along with us because obviously allocations of a firearm you
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  Speaker 6: see this, and in charge for a robbery with a
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  Speaker 6: knife Relisia' damage of property and assault GBH thinktives came
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  Speaker 6: and they interviewed us. Basically they said, oh, we charged
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  Speaker 6: the robbery of firearm, Melissa's damaged property at team didn't
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  Speaker 6: murder what my knife included. None of it happened, and
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  Speaker 6: the complaint never came record once there's been no open
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  Speaker 6: found by the police. He said he stole his phone,
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  Speaker 6: but there was you found his phone where he fell.
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  Speaker 6: So it's been two years. I couldn't. I had to
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  Speaker 6: stopped working because it would affect my job.
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  Speaker 1: And it's all for a joint that you didn't even get. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we didn't get.
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  Speaker 6: Now it's been two years. Lawyers and lawyers and Lewis
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  Speaker 6: been over three hundred thousand and four hundred thousand, and
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  Speaker 6: my people literally say, okay, look I got the air,
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  Speaker 6: but just to keep yourself safe because the police off, yeah,
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  Speaker 6: didn't do the job director and that could could be
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  Speaker 6: it could be bad. Then I came back from the
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  Speaker 6: ab right, the case is still going on psponement. Stoneman
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  Speaker 6: saw the listing officer in one of the clubs and
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  Speaker 6: he told me, no, this case was you kicked that
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  Speaker 6: long time. But the case is invalid, and they're saying
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  Speaker 6: myself and my co accused and we're facing twenty five
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  Speaker 6: years minimum for a case that that doesn't make sense.
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  Speaker 6: They say it sames a murder, but it should be
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  Speaker 6: at least assault if it's a no allocation and lawyers
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  Speaker 6: are not cheap in the digional court especially, we've got
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  Speaker 6: to We've got a bull of like thirty other day.
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  Speaker 6: So now at the stay is legal aid.
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  Speaker 1: So it's a lot.
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  Speaker 5: It's a lot that you're you're going through, and I
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  Speaker 5: hope that the case at least gets thrown out because
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  Speaker 5: this is really really nothing that they have here.
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  Speaker 6: Thank you for listening to me. I know it's a lot.
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  Speaker 6: Please find someone who can really assist us. We need
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  Speaker 6: to help here.
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  Speaker 2: We do.
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  Speaker 6: We literally twenty four years old and they're giving us
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  Speaker 6: a state for June. Yeah, thank you so much.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you very much for your time. Sir.
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  Speaker 3: Sure those legal fees, my word, Sure, one joint. I
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  Speaker 3: think it's going to get thrown out, but he's got
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  Speaker 3: to go through the process.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, go back and forth.
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  Speaker 1: Now, a lot going on there, both stories.
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  Speaker 3: That's the world. They enjoy your bubble.
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  Speaker 6: And apparently you can't go to the bottlestore after church remains.
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  Speaker 1: No, I didn't. That's not what I said. I only
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  Speaker 1: asked why judge judgment.
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  Speaker 3: It was the fact that you said no judgment means no, no.
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  Speaker 1: No, no, no no no, there was no judgment. Seriously,
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  Speaker 1: I was just asking you just had to confirm church
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  Speaker 1: bottle store. Yes, I was just making in that order.
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  Speaker 1: Hmmm yeah, yeah for me. Yeah. He prayed for the
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  Speaker 1: sins he was about in them.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, okay, wow, all right. We'll take your comments
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  Speaker 3: on A two nine four five zero nine four zero.
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  Speaker 3: It is kicking off in Goodwood, clearly, Vlie Ray Jebson
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  Speaker 3: call me maybe here on CA for mornings. It is
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  Speaker 3: eight o'clock. We take your comments first from the courthouse
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  Speaker 3: this morning.
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  Speaker 1: Let's hear him in Jason violent.
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  Speaker 6: No, no, little girl.
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  Speaker 3: This guy.
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  Speaker 7: He went through the twenty five without getting locked up.
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  Speaker 1: Does he need a medal? I'm forty seven years old.
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  Speaker 7: For all of those years of my life, I've never
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  Speaker 7: been locked up. Listen, the first step to recovery is
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  Speaker 7: admitting that you're wrong. So that first guy who's in contempt,
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  Speaker 7: in contempt of contempt, one day at a time. A
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  Speaker 7: second story about the guy with the weed and the
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  Speaker 7: police force just not doing their job. And it's quite
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  Speaker 7: interesting for me because they're doing all this effort to
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  Speaker 7: prove someone guilty of a CRIMEY did not commit at
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  Speaker 7: Putting all that time and effort into proving that guy
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  Speaker 7: guilty when there is so much other things going on.
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  Speaker 7: Just fribergast.
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  Speaker 2: Honestly, mister realizing agents know he's still talking and I've
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  Speaker 2: been listening to you. Remember I just for tailor and
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  Speaker 2: I just called it was too much explanations, tells me.
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  Speaker 1: You are guilty.
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  Speaker 6: That I lost.
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  Speaker 3: All I want to know is that joint that's crossing
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  Speaker 3: this man over three hundred thousand?
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  Speaker 7: Was it indoor?
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  Speaker 6: Was it outdoor? Out of Parly, w C.
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  Speaker 1: What type of joint because that's quite expensive.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I love your comments. You know, I'm thinking about
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  Speaker 3: the first guy right with the anger issues. Yeah, I thought,
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  Speaker 3: you know, I don't miss a man. Look, maybe the
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  Speaker 3: problem is the booze, but the problem was because he
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  Speaker 3: wasn't getting the booze, so he wasn't line drunk. It
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  Speaker 3: was before he was drunk. So I don't know what
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  Speaker 3: chills him out more. But yeah, I mean he went
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  Speaker 3: five without being arrased.
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  Speaker 1: He was on his best behavior for a year. And
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  Speaker 1: remember when he hit the wall, he thought it was
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  Speaker 1: a brick wall.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know what, he sounds like a guy
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  Speaker 3: that he knows he's a problem. Yeah, he knows.
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  Speaker 1: It seems like he's trying.
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  Speaker 2: He almost went that year.
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  Speaker 3: I put my hand through the wall and he was
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  Speaker 3: sat down.
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  Speaker 1: He was like a malicious damage to property.
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  Speaker 7: Let me just have but someone slept me in my
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  Speaker 7: face and that's why I, you know, hit my hand
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  Speaker 7: through the wall.
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  Speaker 3: All over a half jack of clip drift.
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  Speaker 1: You just came from church. That's it. I'm not how
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  Speaker 1: he wanted these day to go.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, that is the courthouse. Well done, remise, thank you
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  Speaker 3: very much. It is eight o'clock Prank on the way
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  Speaker 6: With Darren Sherlock Sibbs and you