Latest / The One Small Change Podcast / Mastering Sales Techniques Through Communication with Misty Henkel
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- 0:00I am so excited about the guests that I have today, and I am
- 0:04so thrilled to embark on this journey of exploration and transformation
- 0:08with you. I'm your host, Yvonne McCoy, and I bring almost 30 years
- 0:12of entrepreneurial experience and a passion for discovering
- 0:16growth through the power of seemingly small change. And I wanna
- 0:19thank you for taking the time out of your out of your week. And
- 0:23this week, I have got a delight for you from down under,
- 0:27Misty Hinkle. And she's gonna share some
- 0:30amazing things, and she is going to we have laughed
- 0:34together so much that I know that you're gonna enjoy
- 0:38this, and you're gonna find something,
- 0:41unexpected that's gonna help you to transform and grow in
- 0:45both your personal and your professional life. Misty,
- 0:49thank you for joining us. This is
- 0:53actually a decent hour for you. This is 7:30 in the morning instead of, like,
- 0:552:30 in the morning. Yeah. No. I'm sorry. This is, like, lunchtime,
- 0:59Yeah. No. I'm upset. This is like lunchtime for me. Seriously, I've just come from
- 1:02having a bowl of spaghetti bolognese. So, like, I get up at crazy o'clock. I've
- 1:05got 2 golden retrievers. It's screaming hot where I live because,
- 1:09it's now summer. So in American terms, you know, we average a
- 1:13100 degrees. I'm in Chinchilla, Australia. So
- 1:17Queensland, Australia. And, we pretty much get from November
- 1:20through to April, a 100 degrees every single day. Summer. Right?
- 1:24Yeah. Yeah. For our summer. And, so I've got one golden retriever, big
- 1:28heavy boy that says, yeah, I'm not going out in the sun. And a
- 1:32little girl who says, you know, I'll sun bake all day. And, but
- 1:35she says, but let's go for a walk an hour before the sun gets up.
- 1:38So, and the sun now gets up here at about 4:30 in the morning.
- 1:42So so I have to get up early because the dogs run
- 1:46around the house crazy going, it's time. It's time. It's time.
- 1:51We have to focus because we have too much fun. Oh, we're focused. We have
- 1:55to focus. So That's so a
- 1:59bit about me. That's it. Oh, so tell me. Besides
- 2:03the fact that you have 2 dogs and it's really hot Yes. Tell
- 2:06everybody what it is you do and what was the small change
- 2:10that brought you to help you get to this place?
- 2:13Okay. So I'm a sales trainer. So I teach
- 2:17sales training? What do I do? Yeah. I teach sales I teach people how to
- 2:20sell. Actually, I get people how to I get people to sell,
- 2:24Yvonne. I, it's one thing to learn. Right? But anyone can
- 2:28learn. Everybody I've ever taught, sales to,
- 2:31they've all done some sort of sales program. Whether we've read a book or we've
- 2:34done a program or we've had it in our job, there's some sort of sales
- 2:38training in everything that we do. But I find that about
- 2:4299% of people who've done sales training fail to sell.
- 2:46So then what's the problem? Why is it that's
- 2:49few, but some can sell, but most do not.
- 2:54Sales anxiety. So I just fix the sales anxiety in people. So
- 2:57ultimately as a sales trainer, I say my job is to get you to sell
- 3:01and I'll do whatever is necessary to make that happen. And I'm very
- 3:04devious about it. I seem to impart knowledge in such a way
- 3:08that they will come back to me and say, oh my God, I can't unhear
- 3:11what you say. And even if I don't wanna be a salesman,
- 3:16I'm now doing it. So it's like you're sitting on my shoulder, whispering
- 3:19in my ear. Just say that. Don't say that. No, no, no. Just tell them
- 3:23the price. Stop talking. Stop doing that.
- 3:27And so I imagine myself as a, I
- 3:31don't know, little devil, but in white with wings, but
- 3:34dressed up with a devil with a tail. That's called an angel without the
- 3:38tail. It's called an angel. Oh, you know, no. They've got a they've got
- 3:42the tail. They've got the the horns. And and
- 3:46do they get the crown? They've got that devious little look. They're with
- 3:49Did did they get the crown too? Oh, yeah. They have a
- 3:53crown and then a halo.
- 3:57So so what was it that made you, you know, realize that
- 4:00that, you know, people needed this and that you were good at
- 4:04delivering it? Okay. So I
- 4:08was quiet as a kid growing up. I was very quiet and,
- 4:12wanted lots of friends, didn't really have a huge amount. I didn't know how to
- 4:15speak to anyone, couldn't cope with more than one person at a time because I
- 4:19struggled to get into any conversation. So by the time I was
- 4:2218, I decided I had to be a barmaid because barmaids were
- 4:26popular by everybody by default. So I've just gone, okay,
- 4:30cool. I'll do a bar course. I'll be a barmaid. So
- 4:33inside that, and I mean, my job was, and I followed instructions
- 4:37really well. So my job was nobody leaves until they've got no
- 4:41money left in their wallet. Okay. No problems. And, really
- 4:45good at my job. Like I used to think, but I also love money. Like
- 4:48I was one of those kids that saw a coin discovered it, bought chocolate, but,
- 4:52oh, so we must have heaps of this. Right. So I just liked money
- 4:56from a very young age. And then how do you get
- 4:59it? Right? Working definitely is it. But then I would look at
- 5:03jobs. The other side of being a barmaid is you can get tips. Not here
- 5:07in Australia, we don't do tips. But my thought was over in
- 5:11America, they do. So I could just be a barmaid and then go over to
- 5:14America and I could earn tips. And I have to say, I would earn a
- 5:17lot of tips if I lived over in America.
- 5:21Because I'm really good at what I do
- 5:24when I'm talking to someone and getting to buy drinks and food and, you know,
- 5:28I did have a bit of a chat and I move on and I help
- 5:30others and come back. My mom used to say to me, oh, but you're just
- 5:33a barmaid. I'm not just a barmaid mum. I'm the best barmaid in the world.
- 5:37People will come into the pub with no money. They'll leave with even less. They
- 5:40don't blame me for it. They come back the next day. I'm very good at
- 5:43what I do, but it's only because of the atmosphere that I would give them.
- 5:47You know, come in, relax, I'll sort out the food and drink. I'll
- 5:50put some music on for you. You play a bit of pool, you know, come
- 5:53back to the bar, have something to eat. So, you know, I just,
- 5:57I just have a friendly way about me. Now, all the sales I did over
- 6:01here in Australia. So I started as a barmaid for 10 years and then moved
- 6:04into furniture, selling furniture, sold apple computers. These are
- 6:08the main jobs I've done heaps of jobs, but these are the main ones. They've
- 6:11all been sales ones. Worked at, government
- 6:15offices selling, patent and trademark applications.
- 6:21Also worked in the government office of,
- 6:25child services taking 50 angry phone
- 6:29calls a day from childcare centers whose parents
- 6:33hadn't paid them for looking after their children. So
- 6:37I learned dispute resolution,
- 6:40over the phone, from those things and as well as in retail
- 6:44jobs. You get that in retail jobs. Bar jobs, if
- 6:48somebody is too drunk, you have to stop them from drinking.
- 6:51So you can see there's a bit of a dispute resolution will go on
- 6:55in that area as well. I'm not drunk and yet you're
- 6:59yelling at me. So, you
- 7:03know, it's a bit of a problem. So amongst
- 7:06all of this, particularly the as a barmaid for 10 years, you have to learn
- 7:10how to speak. How do you how do you get so much? How do you
- 7:13get someone to say for such long time and get them to spend so much
- 7:17money? You have to learn to talk to them. And,
- 7:21so inside of all of this, I'd fallen in love with the
- 7:25whole idea of selling, selling more, adding
- 7:28on, helping a person out, can I can I
- 7:32just can I stop you right there? Because I think you
- 7:36just hit on a really important thing. And that
- 7:39is that if you are are
- 7:43selling a service that a person needs, you're actually helping
- 7:46them. Do you know? You're helping them discover isn't
- 7:50it? No. You have a solution
- 7:54for them. And and, you know, I had a couple of
- 7:57sales jobs, not not a lot, but I had one of I told
- 8:01you, one of the sales jobs that I had was at a costume
- 8:05jewelry counter, and some of that was
- 8:09just ugly. You know, it was past ugly. It was oogly.
- 8:13Do you know? It was so bad. And people would come up to me
- 8:17and say, do you like this? And I was like, nobody
- 8:20in their right mind would like this. Right? But you can't say
- 8:24that. So I would say, well, what's important is that you like
- 8:28this. How are you going to use it? And they would say to me,
- 8:32well, I'm gonna use it on this. And I'd say, that's too heavy for that.
- 8:35You need and it got to the point that people actually came back to the
- 8:38costume jewelry and asked for me. I had a following
- 8:42because I was helping them not only, you know, pick out the right
- 8:46things, but show them how to wear it. I mean, it was weird.
- 8:50You know? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. You are you're
- 8:53helping somebody do something. So let's say if someone come into
- 8:57the pub to, to have a couple of drinks.
- 9:01Right? They've come in just to have a couple of drinks. Maybe they had a
- 9:04hard day at work. Maybe they had a great day at work, whatever it might
- 9:06be, but how long they stay, why don't you stay for dinner? I'll get you
- 9:10a couple more drinks, stay for dinner. I'll call you a taxi, whatever it might
- 9:13be. Right? And they might have come in because they were down in the dumps.
- 9:17But seriously, they came in because they're not feeling
- 9:21that great. So my job is to make them feel better,
- 9:24and they get to leave having felt better by the
- 9:28end of the day. So ironically, what I sold
- 9:32wasn't necessarily what they paid for was the food and the drink, but what
- 9:36I sold was something else, them feeling better. I remember when I was,
- 9:40about 25, I worked, I was living
- 9:44in a small town. I was there for 3 years. I was in a small
- 9:47town in this pub there and there was one of the locals, he
- 9:51was one of the, he was actually one of the local police
- 9:55that, but he was in civilian clothes and he had the
- 9:58week off, whatever, he was on holiday. So he was in the pub and he
- 10:01was having a drink. He was chatting to all the locals and he was talking
- 10:04about the news and he was only about the same age as me, right? So
- 10:07he was only young and, you know, talking to everyone in the pub
- 10:10and this visitor was driving through because this small town that I lived was halfway
- 10:14between Sydney and Adelaide. So it's like 8 hours from anywhere in the middle of
- 10:18nowhere and he'd stop. So it was like the overnight place where you'd
- 10:21stop on your way to Sydney or Adelaide. And, and
- 10:25he said, that guy there, he said, geez, he's really knowledgeable. He knows everything about
- 10:29town. He knows what's going on news. And I said, yeah, I said, I'm rubbish
- 10:32with the news. Like I don't retain any of it.
- 10:36You know, he's, ears. He's really smart. He's really clever. I said, that's
- 10:39just, that's not my space at all. And this guy said to me, he
- 10:43said, no, he said, but you've got something that's, more important I
- 10:47think. And I said, what's that? And he said, you have the
- 10:50ability to make people feel good. And that
- 10:54is the secret to selling. Right? I say this in sales classes all
- 10:58the time. The nicest person gets the money.
- 11:02You only have to be the nicest person in the room, and you will end
- 11:06up with the work. Well, it alright.
- 11:09So I'll tell you like I used to say about, you know, if I
- 11:13had to pick a doctor or a dentist or something. If I'm gonna
- 11:17spend the money, I want somebody I like.
- 11:22Do you know? It's giving money to a dickhead. We have to work way too
- 11:25hard to earn our money. We're not handing it over to just
- 11:29anybody. It's not the service that we're buying. It's the
- 11:33person we're buying it from. That's
- 11:37where we're spending the money. I mean Yeah. Absolutely. It sounds crazy, but
- 11:41I'm a big woman, but I happen to have a small mouth. So whenever I
- 11:45go to the dentist, especially if I have a guy,
- 11:49the the ends of my mouth are cracked.
- 11:53Right? And the first time I had a woman dentist, I
- 11:57said to her, oh my god. This is wonderful. My mouth is not
- 12:00mangled. And she goes, yeah. Dentists have small hands. And I'm like,
- 12:04I gotta remember that. I mean, and I went back to her for years. I
- 12:08mean, she was she was a good dentist, but that extra little
- 12:12thing that I needed. And I think that's, you know, what
- 12:16part of what I say when I'm talking about your unique power
- 12:20in terms of attracting clients. Right? Because
- 12:23they automatically understand and
- 12:27connect with you. So they want to spend time with you.
- 12:31They wanna spend money with you. And I think the other thing that that's so
- 12:35important is give making people feel it's
- 12:38okay. And I think, you know, I am a sucker for the line,
- 12:42it's not your fault.
- 12:47I, you know, I love it when somebody goes, if you haven't done
- 12:50this, it's not your fault because whatever whatever the
- 12:54case may be. You know? Yeah. Yeah. I give you
- 12:58permission. That one's mine. I give you permission. No. It's okay. I'll
- 13:02have someone come to sales classes with me or maybe just initial consult and they'll
- 13:05say, why didn't I do this years ago? I said, because years
- 13:09ago, you probably wouldn't have listened to me because you weren't ready for this
- 13:13part yet. Right? Even when I ran sales classes,
- 13:17the last 5 years, I've run sales classes. It's been like a gym timetable. Right?
- 13:20You pay your membership for the whole year. I run 5 live classes a
- 13:24week, like online, live classes week. It'll be one topic across all
- 13:285. So that then, you know, it doesn't matter which one of the classes you
- 13:32come to, you're getting the same topic. Right? And then someone will say, I haven't
- 13:35been to the last 5 classes. Then you didn't need
- 13:39them. You didn't need those ones yet.
- 13:43You just didn't need them. You need the one that you're at now
- 13:47and maybe any of the others. You might need those, but we don't
- 13:51know. Go to the ones you can get to, and we'll just
- 13:55fine tune things as we go along. Like, I would lose people.
- 13:59So let's say a year's worth of sales classes, technically, that's
- 14:0252 classes. Right? But I I could easily lose
- 14:06someone within 2 or 3 classes because the class that they came
- 14:10into fixed the bit that was broken in them. They didn't
- 14:13need 50 ideas, like, or 50 different
- 14:17ways to sell or 50 bits to fix. Once they fix one
- 14:21bit, often that's the bit that they kept breaking.
- 14:24And now that they don't break that anymore, the
- 14:28customers are going from lead to convert,
- 14:32and now I don't see them anymore. You're like, I miss you in class. I'm
- 14:36so sorry I've become so busy. Ever since doing that one class, I've become so
- 14:39busy. I've gone, well, then you don't need to be in class. So,
- 14:43actually, it all worked. And the I think the other thing is
- 14:48sometimes it's a combination of where you are when you hear the
- 14:51information, I mean, in the in the journey. Right? And
- 14:55it's also the way that it's delivered and who delivers delivers
- 14:59it to you. So I have a business, but we do
- 15:02joint working together every morning.
- 15:06And I find that I have to come back to her at least,
- 15:10you know, a couple of times a year and go, okay. I know
- 15:14you said this to me, but I finally got it. Don't be
- 15:18mad. You know? That you told me this months ago, and I
- 15:22didn't, you know, I didn't understand it. I didn't wanna hear it or whatever.
- 15:25But I just heard it from somebody else, and and I'm in a
- 15:29different place. So now I get it. I get what you were trying to tell
- 15:33me before. So I think that's the I think part of
- 15:36that is it's not 1,
- 15:40it's okay. People
- 15:44don't know they need something until
- 15:48somebody else can kind of explain it to them. I
- 15:51mean, you know, don't know. Repetition, repetition, repetition. If anyone
- 15:55were to come to 50 classes of mine over the course of a year, they're
- 15:58probably fine. Half a dozen of those classes, I'm just repeating. Like, I'm
- 16:02just it's really about 6 to 10 classes, and I'm gonna repeat and I'm gonna
- 16:05repeat. I'm gonna repeat. But there's certain elements that you
- 16:09repeat the whole 50 times. Right? Learning to
- 16:13say your price, you're gonna repeat that all year long, every
- 16:16single time. And how much does it cost? And how much does it cost? And
- 16:19how much does it cost? Right? So there's certain elements you have to
- 16:22repeat because it takes that long for you
- 16:26to get used to saying it without being anxious. And that's and that's what I
- 16:30do when I do. I talk to people about having I don't like
- 16:34the idea of saying pitch when you do what I I prefer the introduction
- 16:38because I want them to think about I'm introducing myself into a
- 16:41relationship. I want, you know, I want it to be conversational.
- 16:45So alright. I hate to do this, but we have got so much more to
- 16:48cover and so little time to do it in. So what I want
- 16:52you to tell us is what are the 3 things
- 16:56that we can do right away to help us
- 17:00increase our sales? Okay. Here it is. Right?
- 17:04So So I've written a book. It's called how to go from no sales to
- 17:07sales in 5 easy steps. There's technically 5, but the first
- 17:10three get the sale. So I'll tell you what they are. Step number 1,
- 17:14get known for the thing that you sell. If you're a network
- 17:18marketer, the most important advertising tool that you
- 17:21have in your arsenal is the company name.
- 17:26If you don't say the company name, you can't sell it. I
- 17:29get really surprised to find that there's network marketing companies that have been out there
- 17:33pretty once for, like, 20 years and nobody's ever heard of them. How did
- 17:37you manage to last that long when nobody knows you exist? But
- 17:41anyhow, the fact that you have, right, it doesn't mean that they're
- 17:44a bad company because no one knew it meant they lasted 20 years. Right? But
- 17:48your company name. In today's world, customer will not buy until they've
- 17:52Googled, so emails will tell them what to Google and don't worry about if they
- 17:55find a good or a bad a bad review. Because truthfully, if you're
- 17:58saying that you love it and they find a bad review, they're gonna go, well,
- 18:02who's this anonymous person? If you don't say the company name, someone
- 18:06thinks they work it out and Google it and find a bad review. We go,
- 18:09no wonder you never said the name. So if you're a network
- 18:13marketer, the company name is the most important advertising tool you have. The second most
- 18:17important thing is pick one thing that you like the most in the company.
- 18:21Better to sell one product a 1000 times
- 18:25than to sell a 1000 products to 1 person. Once they're
- 18:29exhausted, you have no more customers. But a 1000 customers who bought
- 18:33one thing, you got a 1000 customers. You can sell them a second thing.
- 18:36Just concentrate on selling one thing, customer tends to buy more
- 18:40all by themselves. Quick question about
- 18:44have you ever done the grocery shopping before? You ever gone into a grocery store?
- 18:49No. No. Groceries? Right. Imagine that you're going
- 18:53in to buy milk. Right? Just milk. Right? It sits
- 18:56on the shelf. Nobody helps you. You just go in. You get it. Right? And
- 19:00then along the way, you probably leave after spending, what, $30 worth of
- 19:04stuff. Nobody helped you. You got in a
- 19:07store. You're fine. You know, there's a whole science about the
- 19:11layout of of grocery stores. Yeah. The silk is at the
- 19:15furthest diagonal corner. It is. And you have to cut through the chocolate
- 19:18line in order to get there. Like That's right. After. Yeah. Chocolate is like
- 19:22because, you know, we're gonna check that one out anyway. We might as well just
- 19:25have a look. But here it is. Step number 1, get known for the thing
- 19:28that you sell. It includes your company name. It includes your name.
- 19:31Maybe the person you help, the thing that you like the most, one thing that
- 19:35you sell. Right? My sales sales training. Do it in book
- 19:38format. Right? I've got a book. It's called sell like a rock star.
- 19:42There you go. You'll know me as a girl who sells sell like a rock
- 19:45star. Right? Now get an idea of the thing that
- 19:48you sell. Number 2, deliver the price.
- 19:52If you can't say the price, they can't buy it. It's
- 19:56$11. There it is. It's a book. It's
- 20:00$11. Right? And then be
- 20:03silent. If the customer knows what you sell
- 20:07and how much it costs and you're quiet, the
- 20:10customer can choose to buy. The
- 20:14customer doesn't need to be sold to, particularly not in today's
- 20:18world. Before Google, the customer went to the salesman to
- 20:21ask for help because they didn't know anything and the salesman knew
- 20:25everything. Because of Google, the customer
- 20:29goes to Google first and knows everything related
- 20:32to their problem. Not everything the salesman
- 20:36knows, just everything related to their problem.
- 20:40So when they go to a salesman, they consider the
- 20:44salesman a little part of Google, just the bit they couldn't get the
- 20:48answer for. So they only need their questions answered the
- 20:52customer already sold themselves. Salesman thinks they
- 20:55have to tell them everything that they are Google. Salesman's not Google anymore.
- 20:59They're a tiny part of Google. The salesman is there now to help
- 21:03the customer end up with the thing and how they help is they
- 21:07stand there silently and maybe facilitate the
- 21:10sales transaction at the end. But the customers bought it themselves in their
- 21:14head and they're really just vetting. Is this a nice
- 21:18person I'm gonna give my cash to, or is it a not
- 21:22nice person that I'm not gonna give my cash to? And really that's
- 21:25what they're vetting for. Right? So if we go back to my
- 21:29shopping scenario, right, everybody's
- 21:33anyone can say, oh, but I need to do this, I need to do this,
- 21:36and I need to speak features and benefits. But as a customer,
- 21:40this is how we buy every time.
- 21:44We can go into a store by ourselves. Look at the stuff on the
- 21:48shelf that are advertising themselves on the shelf with their
- 21:52price and make an informed decision as to whether or not we're going
- 21:56to buy it. And because the stuff is silent
- 22:00while it's sitting there with its price, we now
- 22:03have to talk to ourselves about why we're buying it. I
- 22:07shouldn't buy it chocolate. You know, I could get it to $3
- 22:11It's currently 7. It might be on special come Wednesday, but
- 22:15it looks it looks really good. I can see how I'd have it. And then
- 22:18when I go home and I'll be reading and I could have a cup of
- 22:21tea and it would go so nice, but we'll talk ourselves into it. We
- 22:24don't need the chocolate explaining itself to us. We'll do that one all
- 22:28by ourselves. Now if that's how we buy groceries,
- 22:32honestly, that's how we shop for everything. So if we follow those
- 22:36three rules of say what it is, say the price, and be
- 22:39silent, Leave it up to the customer. The customer will
- 22:43do this all by themselves. Now the customer's gonna be in 1 of 2
- 22:46spaces. They're either ready to buy or grab it.
- 22:50And if they grab it and buy it, there is no buyer's
- 22:53remorse, not to the salesman because they weren't convinced
- 22:57to do it. Now they might go home and go, I shouldn't have bought
- 23:01that, but they won't blame the salesman if you're quiet.
- 23:05They'll blame themselves for having not asked enough questions or bought
- 23:09the wrong thing or convince themselves with the wrong thing, but they'll never blame the
- 23:12salesman. But if you as a salesman try to convince them to
- 23:16buy before they're ready, if it goes wrong, they're gonna
- 23:20blame you, not themselves. So see what happens.
- 23:23Yeah? So I have to tell you my perfect story. What my
- 23:27lesson that I learned from this. And I used to
- 23:31do, I used to sell a program that was, you know,
- 23:34college prep program. Mhmm. And, you know, the thing was
- 23:38that you were you know, the parent was paying, but the kid had to be
- 23:42convinced, kind of. The parent had to be convinced that the kid would actually use
- 23:45it. And I had a weekend where
- 23:49I had a 100% sales. You know,
- 23:52everybody I talked to bought. And on Monday, I
- 23:56had a 100% cancellation.
- 24:02So I had to learn I had to learn to be quiet. Mhmm.
- 24:06I had to learn, you know, because I was so
- 24:10you need a new job. It was so But he convinced them
- 24:14before they were ready. No. I I mean, it
- 24:18was like I mean, I went home like, oh my god. Look at all the
- 24:21sales got I couldn't believe the commission I was gonna get. And then Oh, wow.
- 24:26The cancellation report came out. I was like and everybody said everybody in
- 24:29the company said we've never seen anything like this before.
- 24:33So so Well, your life was amazing, but I actually didn't need the product.
- 24:38But I wanted to buy from, but I didn't need the product. They needed
- 24:42the product, but, you know, I didn't let I wasn't quiet, and I didn't
- 24:45let them decide for themselves. Yeah.
- 24:49So we're we're running out of time. You've got a free gift for us.
- 24:53What is it? Sales game
- 24:57plan session. Anyone that wants to 2025
- 25:01is coming up. Right? I mean, how many people get into podcast? 14,000?
- 25:05Alright. Let's go with this. Anyone who emails me and says, can I
- 25:09have a sales game plan session? I'll just give it to you. Takes about an
- 25:12hour. We just jump online and book it in. We jump online,
- 25:16and we go through we go through sales game plan. What is it
- 25:20that you wanna sell next year? How much is of it do you
- 25:23wanna sell? And then what's the strategy to get there? It's a good fun session.
- 25:27Yvonne, you did it. Did you do it the other day? I don't think you
- 25:29did it the other day. We just called out. I'm gonna jump on it. Do
- 25:32it. Oh, but you did. I I'm definitely gonna do this because you gave me
- 25:35some good tips just in our conversation, that I've
- 25:39started to use. So I'm I'm definitely gonna jump on for a sales
- 25:43session with you. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. So
- 25:47here's the fun question. When was the last time you did something new for the
- 25:51last, did something new for the first time?
- 25:55So I'm learning about watermelon skiing.
- 26:01Because normally I talk sales, sales, sales. Right? And then I talk to the kids
- 26:04on the street about working and sales and money and but, I'm
- 26:08recently looking into watermelon skiing. So where I live, we are the
- 26:11watermelon capital of Australia. And every 2 years,
- 26:15we have a watermelon festival and the highlight is watermelon skiing.
- 26:19Now February of last year, I witnessed
- 26:23it. And, you're saying Are you saying skiing?
- 26:28Yeah. So picture this. Picture this. Imagine
- 26:32a black slip and slide that goes the full length of an oval.
- 26:36Right? Well, the width of an oval. Right? Kids oval at a school.
- 26:40Right? It's covered in crushed watermelons and water.
- 26:44You're standing at one end with a watermelon on each
- 26:48foot holding onto a water ski tow rope, and at the other
- 26:52end is the winch that pulls you to the ends. The
- 26:56goal is to stand the whole way.
- 27:00Now I witnessed this,
- 27:04and I really want to be a volunteer. And see, the people that go to
- 27:07the original, like, who wants to volunteer? These plans on being
- 27:11me because you end up on the news. I wanna be on the news. Now,
- 27:15preferably, I like to be on the news standing at the other end and not
- 27:18being dragged across my stomach, you know, through watermelons,
- 27:22but if that's the case so I'm learning about it now. There are so
- 27:25many questions to ask. So I've practiced this out in the backyard
- 27:29with a black slip and slide, just soapy water. Couple of kids
- 27:33on each side of a rope that I'm holding onto, and they had to run
- 27:37to the ends. And, and then I had to try and
- 27:40stand up, and it's all very tricky. No watermelons
- 27:44at the moment. Just bare feet on, soapy
- 27:48water. But, it's all a bit tricky. I'm thinking I might need a couple of
- 27:52water skiing lessons just to sort of give me a bit of balance.
- 27:55You gotta hold on to the road with it. It's crazy, but that's what I'm
- 27:59learning. So it's pretty much So when are you when is this
- 28:03actually happening? February. It's in February. Do you And I've been
- 28:06speaking to a water skier over in, with Wisconsin. I
- 28:10think that's where Kurt Roskoff is from. So anyhow, there's a guy that comes out
- 28:13networking all the time. His name is Kurt Roskoff. He's from the disability channel,
- 28:17and he does all this cool stuff, and he gets, people in wheelchairs
- 28:21water skiing. And so I've been talking to him about watermelon skiing.
- 28:25And given that it's their winter, they should start doing this. I think
- 28:28they'll do it a bit easier because some of them might be in a wheelchair.
- 28:32You just gotta pull them across the yeah. Who knows? You know? Like
- 28:36but anyhow, it's crazy times, but questions are out there.
- 28:39What constitutes a good watermelon as a ski?
- 28:44You know? Like, I'm I'm Do you put your foot in the same ski as
- 28:48somebody else or do you get fresh skis to have your turn? Like Alright.
- 28:51I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna catch
- 28:55you up because we are running out of time. I am so sorry,
- 28:59and we will have to do this again for sure.
- 29:03I have to give the commercial, which is, you know, for those of you
- 29:07that are here, I hope you will subscribe and share and
- 29:10engage in the podcast on social media. I can't stop
- 29:14laughing. I'm sorry. And one of the reasons I did this
- 29:18was it was a way for me to give back to the community. One of
- 29:21the things that I realized is that it's important to have a vibrant
- 29:25community and, you know, as you're growing
- 29:29and you're having an impact. So I hope you will join me again on the
- 29:32one small change, and we can embark on a journey that even
- 29:36the smallest shift can you help the fundamental
- 29:41transformations. You will never think about
- 29:45watermelons in the same way.
- 29:48Here's my biggest concern. Right? Now this is here's my biggest
- 29:52concern, and here's the sales problem. Do they
- 29:56hose you off at the end? If you fall down and you're, like,
- 30:00dragged through the watermelons, do they hose you off at the end? Because here's the
- 30:03sales problems. If they don't, how do I convince
- 30:07my husband to let me in the car to get driven
- 30:11home or my walkie, you know, turn miles
- 30:14home in a 100 degree heat to get
- 30:18driven home? Okay. So That's the sales. So
- 30:22so are those your last words? How do I get
- 30:26home? Oh, it's please let me in the
- 30:29car. No. Really. Give us give us some
- 30:33Okay. Alright. Words of wisdom. So we
- 30:38Alright. Here it is. The words of wisdom of this. Look. Sales is really
- 30:41easy. Practice telling people what you sell and how much it costs.
- 30:45Don't worry about how you feel about the price. When somebody says
- 30:49how much does it cost? Seriously, that's the question that all salesmen should be
- 30:53begging for someone to say. When they say how much is it, they're only
- 30:57after a number. They're not after your thoughts or your emotions around
- 31:00money. They're only after the price and they're not after an explanation.
- 31:04If you say the price and be silent, the customer can make an informed
- 31:08decision. It takes
- 31:11practice to do this. Right? But on the other
- 31:15side of it, you might have I'll just say this though. On the other side
- 31:18of it, you might have you've concerned that they're gonna say, oh my god. I'd
- 31:22never pay that. Understand this. If the customer
- 31:26seems a bit emotional about your price, it means, here it
- 31:29is, they were listening to you. And a
- 31:33person that's listening to you is a
- 31:36potential customer. If they're not emotional, they weren't
- 31:40listening. And it's very hard to end up selling
- 31:44something to someone who's not listening to you. So you want them
- 31:48to be emotional. I can't wait to see the notes. I've never had
- 31:51anybody's last words be a whole paragraph. Okay. We
- 31:56we have we we're we have to stop because we are running
- 31:59out of time. Okay. And and I've gotten myself together to
- 32:03stop laughing. So, Should I give my email address for if
- 32:07anyone wants to email me? Sales game plan. We will put those in the
- 32:10notes. So Okay. Not to worry. So this is this
- 32:14is gonna be the end, guys. We've got 2 seconds left. So I
- 32:17want you to remember that change is simple, but it's not always easy.
- 32:21It requires courage, resilience, and a willingness to step out of
- 32:25your comfort zone. And sometimes your comfort zone is that
- 32:29you're serious, and like me, you break out laughing hysterically.
- 32:32So I want you to join me for other episodes of the One
- 32:36Small Change as you embark on this this bold journey and
- 32:40find some innovative possibilities. Until the next time,
- 32:43please stay curious and check out some of the other other podcast
- 32:47episodes. Misty, thank you so much, and
- 32:51we have to go. Bye. See you.