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Ep.9 Cough, Cold & Cast Iron · Health and Homestead Pod

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  SPEAKER_00: Welcome to Health and Homestead with Laura and Allie.
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  SPEAKER_00: Disclaimer.
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  SPEAKER_00: This podcast is for educational and entertainment purposes only.
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  SPEAKER_01: Thanks.
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  SPEAKER_01: Hi.
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  SPEAKER_01: Let's do our test.
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  SPEAKER_01: So before we record, we come into my closet, sit in the corner in all the clothes, and we test our microphones to make sure that they're on and working.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I always say, reporting live from the corner of Laura's closet.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I say, testicles, spectacles, testicles, water, water and water.
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  SPEAKER_00: Something.
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  SPEAKER_00: I usually say testicles in some in some form.
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  SPEAKER_00: So that's how we test.
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  SPEAKER_00: So the microphones are working.
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  SPEAKER_01: Testicles are great.
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  SPEAKER_01: We're here, episode nine.
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  SPEAKER_01: Woo! Episode nine.
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  SPEAKER_01: Here we are.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yep.
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  SPEAKER_01: Is what's our title today?
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  SPEAKER_01: Cough, cold.
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  SPEAKER_01: And cast iron.
• 1:10
  SPEAKER_01: And cast iron.
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  SPEAKER_01: We're back to the homesteading today.
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  SPEAKER_01: So yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: Last week we took a bit of a break from the homesteading, just to drive home GLP ones.
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  SPEAKER_00: Hopefully you got something out of that though, because that's a very highly requested, but like everyone, I don't want to say everyone's on them, but a lot of people are.
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  SPEAKER_00: So it's good to do that.
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  SPEAKER_00: Even if you are on them, it's good to know this information.
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  SPEAKER_01: So yep.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um I don't have anything to talk about because my life is super boring.
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  SPEAKER_00: I was just saying how I barely leave my house.
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  SPEAKER_00: I go for a walk every day.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I barely leave my house other than other than the only people I speak to are the compound people and the cows on the wall.
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  SPEAKER_00: And the cows.
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  SPEAKER_00: I am the cow whisperer.
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  SPEAKER_00: They just they run.
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  SPEAKER_00: They actually run.
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  SPEAKER_00: I have videos of them.
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  SPEAKER_01: The video today, though, has frost, and I'm not happy about it.
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  SPEAKER_00: I do love a good frost.
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  SPEAKER_00: I love a frost.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm sitting here with a sweater on and I am regretting it.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, but I had a wool shirt on underneath my sweater.
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  SPEAKER_00: This sweater, actually, I'm wearing my walking clothes, so sorry.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm confident I'm gonna be a snowbird.
• 2:06
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, that's the worst.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I need to go when I'm old and retired.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna be going somewhere warm when it's cold here because freak this.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I'm not a huge fan of like deep in the dead of winter when it's you can't go anywhere and blah blah blah.
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  SPEAKER_00: But I just I like fall.
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  SPEAKER_00: Fall's my jam, man.
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  SPEAKER_00: It really is.
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  SPEAKER_00: Fall is my jam.
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  SPEAKER_01: It is.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's really pretty right now.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, I'm gonna go first today.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's cough and cold.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's Laura talking.
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  SPEAKER_01: This is the pharmacist talking.
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  SPEAKER_01: Cough and cold, and I'm gonna do flu too, because 'tis the season, bitches.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um cough and cold though, I just want to.
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  SPEAKER_01: There's so many questions about this.
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  SPEAKER_01: Cough and cold.
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  SPEAKER_01: Colds are around every all year.
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  SPEAKER_01: Every year, all year, but definitely worse in the fall and winter months.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I'm gonna briefly go over the ingredients in these cough and cold medications that you can take because generally cold is a virus, and as you can from our previous episodes, you know, there's no cure, but you can treat the symptoms and make yourself less miserable.
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  SPEAKER_00: So and make those around you less miserable.
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  SPEAKER_01: Don't be that guy, don't be that guy, or don't be that guy and complain about it.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, exactly.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, if you're not gonna treat it, don't complain.
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  SPEAKER_01: Suck it up and stiff it out, whatever the saying is to that.
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  SPEAKER_01: If you want to have a stiff upper limp, but you go ahead.
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  SPEAKER_01: You know what I said yesterday in the uh, or not yesterday, the last week in the podcast, I said uh after I gave her the gears about Amelia in the car, and I realized that's an old man saying.
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  SPEAKER_01: Gave her the gears.
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  SPEAKER_01: You really gave her the gears.
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  SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: I speak like an elder.
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  SPEAKER_00: You speak like your husband.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I know.
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  SPEAKER_00: Who's younger than you?
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: Anyway, grandpa says, whatever.
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  SPEAKER_00: Grandpa.
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  SPEAKER_01: Anywho, so getting right into cough and cold.
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  SPEAKER_01: As a pharmacist, the biggest questions I have are like, what can I take for these symptoms that I'm having, and is there reasons why I can't take them?
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  SPEAKER_01: So if there's taking medications, if you have medical conditions, things like that.
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  SPEAKER_01: So this is going to be very broad.
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  SPEAKER_01: There's a couple different classes of medications that we go to when we're thinking cough and cold.
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  SPEAKER_01: Because with with a cold, it's usually maybe a mild fever, usually a cough, usually stuffy nose, runny nose.
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  SPEAKER_01: Four main yeah, four main classes of medication, five really if you include like fever medication, but but decongestants, which help unclog your nose, holes all of them.
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  SPEAKER_01: Antihistamines, which help dry up your nose holes, dry up postnasal drip, dry up runny eyes, things like that.
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  SPEAKER_01: There is cough suppressants that help with the dry, annoying cough like that.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: And then there's expectorants, which help loosen and help you expel chest congestion.
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  SPEAKER_01: But I'll tell you, I'll break your heart here soon with expectrants because they don't actually really work that well.
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  SPEAKER_01: But anyway, decongestants, the way they work to unclog your nose hole.
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  SPEAKER_01: So when you're feeling like like super stuffed in your in your head, usually with sinus congestion, you'll have a lot of pain around your eyes, um, around your temples, maybe in the top of your forehead.
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  SPEAKER_01: Those are where your sinuses are.
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  SPEAKER_01: Decongestants, you can get them in a pill, a liquid.
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  SPEAKER_01: We call those oral decongestants, or you can get them in a nasal decongestant, which is one of the sprays that you spray up your nose.
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  SPEAKER_01: All of them, they shrink swollen nasal and sinus blood vessels.
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  SPEAKER_01: They don't treat the cause of the cold because it's usually viral, but it will help give you short-term relief of the symptoms of congestion.
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  SPEAKER_01: They only work though for usually six to eight hours.
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  SPEAKER_01: And maybe when I take it, I usually find it's a little bit less than that, but the dosing of them has to be at least six to eight hours apart.
• 5:44
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: Then you take another one and then you continue to continue to take them until you're not feeling congested anymore.
• 5:51
  SPEAKER_01: Oral decongestant.
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  SPEAKER_01: So the pills, the the liquids.
• 5:57
  SPEAKER_01: Actually, I'm gonna rewind here because my biggest point I want to drive home is when you go to the pharmacy, you'll see the entire front of the pharmacy is full of cough and cold stuff.
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  SPEAKER_01: A lot of those products have multiple ingredients in them.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's not like I got people come to the counter with like a cold and sinus plus and then a liquid that has a cough suppressant in it.
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  SPEAKER_01: Oftentimes they have multiple of the same ingredients.
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  SPEAKER_01: So you don't always need more than one product.
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  SPEAKER_01: Sometimes, if you want to, you know, target certain symptoms, maybe, but you can usually find an all-in-one that has what you're looking for.
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  SPEAKER_01: You just have to ask somebody to help you find it.
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  SPEAKER_01: Or if you know what words to look for, which I'm gonna kind of go over right now.
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  SPEAKER_01: So on the back of these bottles and boxes and whatever, you're gonna see under the ingredients tab, you're gonna see these big long names: pseudoephedrin, phenylephrine, chlorophyniramine, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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  SPEAKER_01: But usually, I'm gonna say 99% of the time, it's preceded by a word that says like decongestant or antihistamine or cough suppressant.
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  SPEAKER_01: Like as long as you know what you're looking for, regardless of the name, doesn't really matter.
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  SPEAKER_01: But if you're going for a decongestant, reasons you should not use a decongestant if you have um like uncontrolled hypertension or high blood pressure, decongestants are kind of stimulating.
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  SPEAKER_01: They can increase your heart rate, um, increase your blood pressure.
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  SPEAKER_01: You have to be careful with diabetes, they can increase your blood sugar if you're using them, you know, short term, which is not always real dangerous.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's more just if you're monitoring.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: If you're sick, your blood sugar usually increases a little bit anyway.
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  SPEAKER_01: But if you're taking medications, you're like, oh no, my blood sugar is a nine today.
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  SPEAKER_01: It could just be from the from the short-term effect of these medications.
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  SPEAKER_01: So just to be aware, if you have thyroid disorders, if you have any cardiac issues like arrhythmias, tachycardia, like a high heart rate, um, coronary artery disease.
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  SPEAKER_01: Check with check with your professor.
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  SPEAKER_01: Everybody in the county.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: Some antidepressants you have to be careful with.
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  SPEAKER_01: And the biggest thing is duplicate ingredients.
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  SPEAKER_01: So a lot of products have multiple ingredients, and if you're taking multiple things at the same time, you could be double dosing yourself, or in some cases, overdosing.
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  SPEAKER_00: And a lot of the times, too, there's like uh they'll be all the same, but then they'll be like, this one has like the equivalent of Tylenol in it.
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  SPEAKER_00: This one has the advil and then whatever.
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  SPEAKER_00: So you have to make sure you're you know which one you're taking to.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Because some people can't take advil advil for blood, whatever.
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  SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: So that's decongestants, that's oral decongestants.
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  SPEAKER_01: So those are the pills and liquids you take.
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  SPEAKER_01: If you nasal decongestants, I hate.
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  SPEAKER_01: Hate them because we all know somebody who's addicted to dristan.
• 8:40
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 8:40
  SPEAKER_01: We all know people that are like they stopped using dristan and they just get congested again.
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  SPEAKER_01: So they have they they're in this cycle of having to use it every day to keep themselves unclogged.
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  SPEAKER_01: Nasal decongestants only, not oral, when you put them up your nose, it uh causes inflammation and irritation of the nasal passages.
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  SPEAKER_01: So if you use them for longer than two or three days, you get rebound congestion because of this inflammation.
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  SPEAKER_01: And you have to use, I mean, you get congested, so you want to use these decongestants to clear the out again.
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  SPEAKER_01: There is help for it, though.
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  SPEAKER_01: If you're in the cycle of like, oh my god, I use I buy ultraven or dristan once a month or once every couple weeks because you just go through it so often, you can switch to like steroid nasal sprays, saline nasal sprays, oral decongestants sometimes too to help you get off of these nasal decongestants.
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  SPEAKER_01: So there's there's there's hope.
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  SPEAKER_01: There's a treatment plan.
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  SPEAKER_01: There's hope that does help, but it is a it is a vicious cycle.
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  SPEAKER_01: Once you get in it, it it sucks.
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  SPEAKER_01: Decongestant.
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  SPEAKER_01: So those are on unclog your nose holes.
• 9:42
  SPEAKER_01: So they declog.
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  SPEAKER_01: They declog, declog.
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  SPEAKER_01: The next main ingredient in these products are antihistamines.
• 9:48
  SPEAKER_01: So antihistamines are there's two generations of antihistamines, which is important to note because I have just some information on both of them.
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  SPEAKER_01: But the first generation antihistamines are the older ones.
• 10:00
  SPEAKER_01: So the benadryl, the chlorotryplon, the um gravel, diamond hydrinate, hydroxine, like those are all names that I don't need you to know, but just know that there's there's two different generations of antihistamines.
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  SPEAKER_01: Those first generation ones usually cause you to be sleepy.
• 10:17
  SPEAKER_01: I know a lot of people take Benadryl or Gravol to sleep every night, and I'm gonna get into why that might not be the best idea.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, and then there's the second generation antihistamines, which do not cause those side effects that you don't want, like sleepiness and drowsiness and confusion and those types of things because they don't penetrate the brain as well as the first generation ones.
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  SPEAKER_01: So your second generation ones is your claritins, your reactin, your arias, your Allegra.
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  SPEAKER_01: Those are usually once a day.
• 10:50
  SPEAKER_01: I shouldn't say all of them are once a day.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, 24 hours.
• 10:53
  SPEAKER_01: 24 hours.
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  SPEAKER_01: They last a lot longer, they're not broken down.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um generally a lot safer.
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  SPEAKER_01: But there are some there's some recent studies that link first generation antihistamines to an increased risk of dementia.
• 11:05
  SPEAKER_01: Oh shit.
• 11:06
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: I was doing some research on some studies, and uh the second generations a couple of years ago they thought they both had a link, but the newer evidence says that it's second generations aren't more likely to increase risk of dementia, but long-term use of the first generations can.
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  SPEAKER_01: So there's a big shift right now for moving towards like a claritin or a reactant when you're having even an allergic reaction.
• 11:29
  SPEAKER_01: Sometimes you need Benadryl.
• 11:31
  SPEAKER_01: Like Benadryl with an FN.
• 11:32
  SPEAKER_01: Yep.
• 11:32
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 11:33
  SPEAKER_01: You need a quick acting, and once in a while, not an issue.
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  SPEAKER_01: Long-term use is when it gets into get into problems.
• 11:39
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm thinking the people that come that don't sleep and they take gravel every night for sleep, like use it as their sleep aid.
• 11:46
  SPEAKER_01: It it might not be the best option because of these new weapons.
• 11:50
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 11:51
  SPEAKER_01: Um, antihistamines, you gotta be careful.
• 11:53
  SPEAKER_01: Like the older you are because antihistamines dry things up, it can increase like urinary retention.
• 11:59
  SPEAKER_01: If you have any kidney issues or liver issues, you sometimes gotta be careful.
• 12:04
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, enlarged prostate, certain types of glaucoma.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, yeah, and combining the first gen antihistamines, so the benavrils, the gravel, with alcohol, with other sleep aids, with opioids, muscle relaxers, it can increase like cognitive impairment and respiratory risks, actually.
• 12:25
  SPEAKER_01: So opioids, yeah.
• 12:26
  SPEAKER_01: Opioids, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: So if yeah, you want to just be careful when you're using them.
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  SPEAKER_01: But a daily claritin, a daily reactant if you have allergic symptoms, like me.
• 12:36
  SPEAKER_01: Perimenopause has shown me that I have like eczema around my ears, which I've never had before, which I'm just a reactant.
• 12:42
  SPEAKER_01: Hello, put put talamon behind you.
• 12:44
  SPEAKER_01: Of course I do.
• 12:45
  SPEAKER_01: Of course they do, but so antihistamines that dry stuff up.
• 12:49
  SPEAKER_01: That's what kind of the word you look for when you're looking on the back of that box.
• 12:52
  SPEAKER_01: You can take them separately too.
• 12:54
  SPEAKER_01: Like I usually buy buckets of reactant and just take it every day.
• 12:58
  SPEAKER_01: Costco baby.
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  SPEAKER_01: Costco baby.
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  SPEAKER_01: The next one that we look for in the back of the box is cough suppressants.
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  SPEAKER_01: So DM or dextromethorphan is the most common cough suppressant.
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  SPEAKER_01: Codeine works as a cough suppressant too, but you don't.
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  SPEAKER_00: There's also it is really you know what?
• 13:15
  SPEAKER_00: We do sell a lot of Tylenol 1.
• 13:16
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, because of cough, but it's not something you want to take regularly for short term, maybe, but um, a whole other slew of issues with codeine, too.
• 13:25
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, don't yeah, but DM is cough suppressant.
• 13:30
  SPEAKER_01: It works really well for a dry, hacky cough, but it should not be used.
• 13:35
  SPEAKER_01: If you have a chronic productive cough, and when we say productive, we mean you're bringing stuff up when you're coughing.
• 13:40
  SPEAKER_01: So if you have um like bronchitis, emphysema, heavy mucus, like this, a smoker's cough that is very, very productive when you cough, DM is not for you because that's your lungs trying to say, like, get out, get out and walk, you bastard.
• 13:57
  SPEAKER_01: So we don't want to suppress that.
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  SPEAKER_01: We want our body to get that shit out of there.
• 14:02
  SPEAKER_01: But if you if if you're like like just a we all have had it, the tickly cough at nighttime that makes you not be able to sleep, a dose of DM may be helpful for you.
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  SPEAKER_01: Where you shouldn't take DM, though, there's certain antidepressants like SSRIs, holo, holo for the SNRIs, tricyclic antidepressants, so like amitryptalines, those types of things.
• 14:25
  SPEAKER_01: There is a risk of serotonin syndrome if you take DM shit with those.
• 14:32
  SPEAKER_01: So maybe not the best idea if you do take antidepressants, which uh let's be honest, a lot of us do.
• 14:37
  SPEAKER_01: Let's be honest here.
• 14:39
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but they are great if you can use them, but there's reasons when you can't.
• 14:44
  SPEAKER_01: So that's kind of the take home there.
• 14:46
  SPEAKER_01: Again, talk to your pharmacist.
• 14:48
  SPEAKER_00: The pharmacist is that why they put it right in front of the pharmacy?
• 14:51
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 14:51
  SPEAKER_00: I never realized that they're oh every pharmacy I think of, yeah, they're in front of the pharmacy.
• 14:54
  SPEAKER_01: And this is a pharmacy lesson too.
• 14:56
  SPEAKER_01: Lock and leave.
• 14:57
  SPEAKER_01: You find some products that are available all the time when the pharmacy is closed, and there's some that are in those cabinets, and we're like, people are like, why are they in the cabinets?
• 15:04
  SPEAKER_01: It's because a pharmacist has to be available for counsel for those products because there's potential drug interactions, there's potential like harmful effects of them.
• 15:12
  SPEAKER_01: So that's what is that what gravel's behind the counter now?
• 15:15
  SPEAKER_01: Yep.
• 15:15
  SPEAKER_01: Whoa, interesting.
• 15:17
  SPEAKER_01: Yep.
• 15:17
  SPEAKER_01: So yeah, different different legislation for different products because of um harm benefit.
• 15:25
  SPEAKER_01: And there should be they're there because there should be a council with it.
• 15:28
  SPEAKER_01: There should be some type of questions asked when you buy them.
• 15:31
  SPEAKER_01: The fourth thing you're gonna see on the back of the box is an expectorant.
• 15:36
  SPEAKER_01: So this is your gufenosin, this is your muzenex.
• 15:39
  SPEAKER_00: Your little green guy with the with the travel and what did he have a little big luggage in case you have to pull off.
• 15:45
  SPEAKER_01: Those marketing people were smart.
• 15:47
  SPEAKER_01: Will you remember that?
• 15:48
  SPEAKER_01: Well, listen, there you go.
• 15:49
  SPEAKER_01: We'll never use it.
• 15:50
  SPEAKER_01: Will I never spend money on an expectorant?
• 15:52
  SPEAKER_01: No, I won't.
• 15:53
  SPEAKER_01: Because the studies aren't that great for it.
• 15:55
  SPEAKER_01: It's supposed to help loosen chest mucus and help you kind of thin it out and bring it up.
• 16:00
  SPEAKER_01: It doesn't really work that much better than just drinking a lot of water.
• 16:03
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, water also works.
• 16:04
  SPEAKER_01: Water will also thin the mucus.
• 16:06
  SPEAKER_01: Bobby calls it lung butter when he's really congested.
• 16:10
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 16:11
  SPEAKER_00: So as a nurse, I can deal with a lot of things.
• 16:14
  SPEAKER_00: I can deal with a lot of smells, I can wipe anything.
• 16:17
  SPEAKER_00: But when it comes to fla um when it comes to fla, I don't know what it is because it's if somebody needs uh culture or something and they have to do a first thing in the morning because that's what it's most productive.
• 16:30
  SPEAKER_00: Oh my god.
• 16:31
  SPEAKER_00: I just I have to like leave the room, I'll give them the instructions, leave the room and then come back when it's done because it's fucking disgusting.
• 16:37
  SPEAKER_02: Yep.
• 16:38
  unknown: Yeah.
• 16:38
  SPEAKER_00: Lung butter, gross.
• 16:40
  unknown: It's a part of you.
• 16:42
  SPEAKER_01: Anyway.
• 16:43
  SPEAKER_01: No, but yeah, just drink water as most of these things.
• 16:46
  SPEAKER_01: Water is the water's the D for D.
• 16:49
  SPEAKER_00: Water's the D for D.
• 16:50
  SPEAKER_01: And then the fifth ingredient you'll see is usually some type of fever medicine.
• 16:53
  SPEAKER_01: So these combinations are generally Tylenol-based or advil-based, or ibuprofen or acetaminophen.
• 17:01
  SPEAKER_01: Certain people can't take ibuprofen if you have like a gastric bleed or if you have high blood pressure, you gotta be careful with with Advil products.
• 17:08
  SPEAKER_01: So Tylenol may be a safer option, but always just check with the pharmacist.
• 17:12
  SPEAKER_01: That is what we do, baby.
• 17:14
  SPEAKER_00: And they're usually different colors, like if you're looking at roebaxet, for example, they're different colors, aren't they?
• 17:19
  SPEAKER_00: Like the Tylenol ones, one color and whatever.
• 17:20
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 17:21
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 17:21
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 17:22
  SPEAKER_01: And usually they're beside the product that is similar, but it it is really important.
• 17:26
  SPEAKER_01: Like if you wear glasses to see small print, when you go pick outside with the pharmacy, take your glasses with you.
• 17:31
  SPEAKER_01: A lot of pharmacies too now have magnifying glass things because it's the the writing is unreasonably small.
• 17:37
  SPEAKER_00: Stupid, stupid small.
• 17:38
  SPEAKER_00: And then it's like unwind for a Zach Morso.
• 17:42
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, 18 pages.
• 17:43
  SPEAKER_01: But it's there for a reason, but it's honestly easier to just ask somebody.
• 17:47
  SPEAKER_01: Yep.
• 17:48
  SPEAKER_01: Um, that's cough and cold stuff.
• 17:52
  SPEAKER_01: So take it.
• 17:53
  SPEAKER_01: Symptom relief.
• 17:54
  SPEAKER_01: If you don't want to take it, that's fine.
• 17:55
  SPEAKER_01: But don't complain.
• 17:56
  SPEAKER_01: Don't complain.
• 17:57
  SPEAKER_01: Don't complain, man.
• 17:58
  SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna go quickly into the flu vaccine because it is October, tis the season, and flu is very easily prevented with the flu vaccine.
• 18:10
  SPEAKER_01: And some of the most common things I hear is like it doesn't even work that well.
• 18:14
  SPEAKER_01: I never get the flu.
• 18:16
  SPEAKER_01: Congratulations.
• 18:17
  SPEAKER_01: You probably do get the flu, but you probably are not symptomatic with the flu.
• 18:20
  SPEAKER_00: Or you have disease.
• 18:22
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 18:22
  SPEAKER_00: Because you're not immunocompromised.
• 18:24
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 18:24
  SPEAKER_01: So a lot of people are immunocompromised.
• 18:26
  SPEAKER_01: So if you don't get it for yourself, get it for somebody else.
• 18:30
  SPEAKER_01: In each flu shot, there's different strains.
• 18:34
  SPEAKER_01: It's it's the best guess.
• 18:36
  SPEAKER_01: The World Health Organization and NASI, they they take what's circulating in the world, what causes the most severe disease, they formulate into a flu shot, and that's what they give you to protect you from those certain strains.
• 18:47
  SPEAKER_01: Their guess is months before it actually occurs.
• 18:51
  SPEAKER_01: So I know last year the effectiveness rate of flu shots was about 40%.
• 18:56
  SPEAKER_01: It's better than zero, everyone.
• 18:58
  SPEAKER_01: But it seemed like that in that.
• 18:59
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, exactly.
• 19:00
  SPEAKER_00: It's an estimate, but it's an it's an education, it's a guess, but it's an educated guess.
• 19:03
  SPEAKER_00: They don't just pick off the flu shelf.
• 19:06
  SPEAKER_01: So every vaccine that we get now, like there's there's trivalent, there's quadralent, which just means how many strains are in it.
• 19:13
  SPEAKER_01: There's always a mix, though, in Canada now of A and B.
• 19:16
  SPEAKER_01: Influenza A is, I'm gonna say more severe disease.
• 19:19
  SPEAKER_01: It's the one that causes like global pandemics.
• 19:21
  SPEAKER_01: H1N1 was influenza A.
• 19:24
  SPEAKER_01: H3N2 was another strain that was out a couple of years after that was another strain.
• 19:29
  SPEAKER_01: Influenza B is less common.
• 19:32
  SPEAKER_01: It's more like localized.
• 19:33
  SPEAKER_01: So when you have a local outbreak of a flu, I mean it can be an A strain too, but B, I'm gonna say B is more common?
• 19:43
  SPEAKER_01: No, it's less common, but it's it's less invasive.
• 19:46
  SPEAKER_00: It's not as dangerous, I guess, as an A.
• 19:48
  SPEAKER_00: A can like if you're healthy, you can still be an ICU with A.
• 19:52
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 19:52
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 19:52
  SPEAKER_00: And this is not just sick people.
• 19:54
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 19:55
  SPEAKER_01: So when the flu is transmitted, the incubation period, which we say like from the moment you're exposed to a flu virus to the moment you get symptoms, it can be up to four days.
• 20:04
  SPEAKER_01: But you can start spreading the flu before you have symptoms.
• 20:08
  SPEAKER_01: Yep.
• 20:08
  SPEAKER_01: So a lot of times if you're a young, healthy individual, you might have very mild disease with the flu, or you might have you might not have any symptoms at all.
• 20:18
  SPEAKER_01: You can still pass it though.
• 20:19
  SPEAKER_01: But then you go to see your little grandmother.
• 20:21
  SPEAKER_01: Yep.
• 20:21
  SPEAKER_01: And you can't do it.
• 20:22
  SPEAKER_01: Or these little babies, these friends having babies that are not, you know, immune immunized to the flu yet, or that their immune systems are not built yet.
• 20:31
  SPEAKER_01: I I don't get it for myself.
• 20:33
  SPEAKER_01: I get it, you have asthma, dad has asthma, you know.
• 20:36
  SPEAKER_01: I get it for myself.
• 20:37
  SPEAKER_00: And others, but for most of myself.
• 20:39
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 20:40
  SPEAKER_01: I d I have had the flu like mild flu symptoms before, but I get the flu shot every year.
• 20:45
  SPEAKER_01: I'm open in saying that I get the COVID vaccine every year too.
• 20:48
  SPEAKER_01: But um get it for get it for the people that you interact with.
• 20:54
  SPEAKER_01: Because if you get severe disease, if you're immunocompromised, the older you are, if you have underlying um cardiovascular disease or respiratory disease.
• 21:05
  SPEAKER_00: Which is everybody in new.
• 21:07
  SPEAKER_01: And they probably don't openly talk about, oh yeah, I have C O P D.
• 21:10
  SPEAKER_01: Like it can worsen those things with if they get the flu and it can cause death.
• 21:14
  SPEAKER_01: Like it can, it can kill them.
• 21:15
  SPEAKER_00: So don't be addicted.
• 21:17
  SPEAKER_00: Don't be addict.
• 21:18
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 21:18
  SPEAKER_01: Symptoms of the flu though, like sudden fever, cough, muscle pain, headache, chills, fatigue, sore throat.
• 21:23
  SPEAKER_01: So just think if you have a mild disease, you might have a couple days of muscle pain.
• 21:26
  SPEAKER_01: You'd be like, oh, you know, I went to the gym a couple days ago.
• 21:28
  SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
• 21:29
  SPEAKER_01: You could have the flu.
• 21:30
  SPEAKER_01: Like you probably do have the flu at some point.
• 21:34
  SPEAKER_01: It's just your body's just working the way it should.
• 21:36
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 21:36
  SPEAKER_01: Not everybody's does.
• 21:38
  SPEAKER_01: So every year in Canada, there's three to five million cases worldwide.
• 21:42
  SPEAKER_01: And this is reported on people that are like hospitalized with influenza.
• 21:46
  SPEAKER_01: There's so many people that don't.
• 21:47
  SPEAKER_01: Like, if I get influenza, I'm not going to call public health and be like, hey, can you put me on the list?
• 21:51
  SPEAKER_01: I have influenza.
• 21:53
  SPEAKER_01: So this is people that are being treated or hospitalized with influenza.
• 21:58
  SPEAKER_01: And there's over 500,000 deaths worldwide.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_01: Worldwide because of it.
• 22:01
  SPEAKER_01: Again, ICU cases that are treated in the hospital that they've done the tests on.
• 22:07
  SPEAKER_01: These numbers aren't accurate, but it's it's an idea of like this is what's actually reported.
• 22:12
  SPEAKER_01: It's probably three times that exactly.
• 22:14
  SPEAKER_01: So the fact that it's a millions, and it's yeah, it's underreported.
• 22:17
  SPEAKER_01: Even with those numbers, influenza and pneumonia are still in the top 10 leading causes of death in Canada.
• 22:23
  SPEAKER_01: So important to know when you, even if you are asymptomatic, if you get the flu virus, if you contract the flu virus from somebody, your risk of heart attack and stroke in the 15 days after infection increases like I don't know how many folds, but it there's a high folds.
• 22:42
  SPEAKER_01: There's folds, there's a lot of folds, and it increases your risk in those first two weeks after you contracted.
• 22:47
  SPEAKER_01: So it can also lead to pneumonia, respiratory failure, cardiovascular complications, and worsening of underlying conditions.
• 22:54
  SPEAKER_01: So it can exacerbate symptoms of another condition and then they'll make it worse for the rest of your life.
• 23:01
  SPEAKER_01: So flu vaccine, please get it.
• 23:04
  SPEAKER_00: Just please get it because nobody's walking around with polio.
• 23:10
  SPEAKER_00: Smallpox is not anymore.
• 23:13
  SPEAKER_01: But flu vaccine.
• 23:14
  SPEAKER_01: Usually the time of the flu vaccine is the same time as COVID vaccine.
• 23:18
  SPEAKER_01: There is in Canada now two COVID vaccines per year, but um when you go in for your flu, ask for your COVID.
• 23:24
  SPEAKER_01: Pneumonia vaccine too, over 65.
• 23:28
  SPEAKER_01: Um is free.
• 23:29
  SPEAKER_01: It's free in Nova Scotia.
• 23:31
  SPEAKER_01: Over 50, you can get the flu vaccine, but it's not always free.
• 23:33
  SPEAKER_01: But some private plans do cover it.
• 23:35
  SPEAKER_01: So just ask the question.
• 23:37
  SPEAKER_01: When you're at the at the pharmacy, at the doctor's office, whatever, ask the question.
• 23:40
  SPEAKER_01: What about RSV?
• 23:41
  SPEAKER_01: RSV is only it's free in Nova Scotia for over 75.
• 23:45
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 23:46
  SPEAKER_01: Which it's indicated over 60, I believe.
• 23:49
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 23:49
  SPEAKER_01: So I know mom and dad paid for it because yeah, like with dad's asthma, yeah.
• 23:54
  SPEAKER_01: It's definitely an investment in your health.
• 23:56
  SPEAKER_01: It goes through as a prescription.
• 23:57
  SPEAKER_01: You can claim on your medical expenses.
• 24:00
  SPEAKER_01: But vaccinations, they save they save lives, demand.
• 24:02
  SPEAKER_01: So just do it and they eradicate disease.
• 24:04
  SPEAKER_01: So get it.
• 24:05
  SPEAKER_01: Get it, please.
• 24:06
  SPEAKER_01: But yeah, flu vaccine though, if you're gonna get it, you don't want to wait till everyone around you has the flu because it does take two weeks for the flu vaccine to get to like the most beneficial.
• 24:17
  SPEAKER_01: You'll get some immunity right off the bat, but the best immunity is at two weeks after you get it.
• 24:22
  SPEAKER_01: So get it now.
• 24:23
  SPEAKER_01: Get it early.
• 24:24
  SPEAKER_01: And it is available now.
• 24:25
  SPEAKER_01: So you can go online.
• 24:26
  SPEAKER_01: Most they're really pushing pharmacy as like the way to get your flu shot now in Nova Scotia, anyway.
• 24:33
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but it's free, it's easy to book most online booking platforms.
• 24:37
  SPEAKER_01: You can call the same number you call for your COVID vaccine.
• 24:41
  SPEAKER_01: Um but yeah, just it it's that time.
• 24:44
  SPEAKER_01: Get it for you, get it for somebody else, whatever.
• 24:47
  SPEAKER_01: It's science, it's not full of trackers and poison and oh my god.
• 24:53
  SPEAKER_01: I know.
• 24:54
  SPEAKER_01: It's the stuff that you read on the internet.
• 24:56
  SPEAKER_01: Please, please don't.
• 24:58
  SPEAKER_01: Please get rid of the internet.
• 24:59
  SPEAKER_01: Please don't.
• 25:00
  SPEAKER_01: Science.
• 25:00
  SPEAKER_00: Not your podcast, not your podcast apps, but get rid of the internet.
• 25:03
  SPEAKER_01: Health Canada, World Health Organization, NASI.
• 25:06
  SPEAKER_01: They would not promote something that is harmful to you.
• 25:08
  SPEAKER_01: Just know that from a health professional, please.
• 25:12
  SPEAKER_01: On that note, on that unseen.
• 25:14
  SPEAKER_00: On that note, let's talk about cast iron.
• 25:16
  SPEAKER_00: On that note, slipping gears.
• 25:18
  SPEAKER_00: So either seer.
• 25:19
  SPEAKER_00: The first thing I think about, actually, when I think about cast iron is not the mama.
• 25:22
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, that reference will probably go over some people's heads, but but maybe not, because we have a we have an old fan base.
• 25:30
  SPEAKER_00: Were you born in the 80s?
• 25:31
  SPEAKER_00: Were you born in the 80s?
• 25:32
  SPEAKER_00: Did you oh my god, they were creepy.
• 25:34
  SPEAKER_00: So creepy, but not the mama.
• 25:36
  SPEAKER_00: That's what I think of, anyways.
• 25:37
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 25:38
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so cast iron is a staple in a lot of homesteading homes.
• 25:42
  SPEAKER_00: Mine also.
• 25:44
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I use them both as uh kind of pans and decor.
• 25:48
  SPEAKER_00: I have this little thing on my wall that I hang them on just because they take up a lot of space, but everyone should have one.
• 25:52
  SPEAKER_01: I feel like ask for one for Christmas if you want, because they're they are expensive.
• 25:55
  SPEAKER_00: They are expensive, but if well maintained, which I will walk you through here how to well maintain them, they'll last for years, like hundreds of years.
• 26:02
  SPEAKER_00: Hundreds.
• 26:03
  SPEAKER_00: Hundreds! Hundreds.
• 26:05
  SPEAKER_00: And it is so satisfying to watch videos of them being restored.
• 26:08
  SPEAKER_00: I know.
• 26:08
  SPEAKER_00: Oh my god.
• 26:09
  SPEAKER_00: That is my algorithm.
• 26:11
  SPEAKER_00: Electrolysis bath.
• 26:12
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah.
• 26:12
  SPEAKER_00: Love it.
• 26:13
  SPEAKER_00: Anyways, so why cast iron?
• 26:16
  SPEAKER_00: So what I love about it is that it retain, they retain heat like a motherfucker.
• 26:20
  SPEAKER_00: Like you don't need a lot of heat.
• 26:22
  SPEAKER_00: Like for a lot of pans, you have to turn it way up or whatever.
• 26:24
  SPEAKER_00: But this one, like if you turn it past like two on your dial, it's way too hot.
• 26:29
  SPEAKER_00: Like, and it just you really don't need a lot of heat, and it retains the heat quite for quite a long time.
• 26:34
  SPEAKER_00: It takes longer to heat up though.
• 26:35
  SPEAKER_00: It well, it does just because it's like the the thickness of it.
• 26:38
  SPEAKER_00: I usually turn it up high to heat it up, like not high, but like to five.
• 26:42
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah.
• 26:43
  SPEAKER_00: No, I'm not we're not allowed to do that in my house.
• 26:46
  SPEAKER_00: Very strict instructions.
• 26:48
  SPEAKER_00: No.
• 26:49
  SPEAKER_00: But um, I do like that it can go from the stove to the oven because there's times when you're anytime I make a little pizza or something, I put it on that to go in the oven.
• 26:57
  SPEAKER_00: It's a very multi-purpose.
• 26:58
  SPEAKER_00: They're very multi-purpose things.
• 27:00
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I do have the silicone handles though that I can put on so you can actually like when I stir stuff, I like to hold on to the pan.
• 27:05
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, the pan handle is also iron, so it'll get very hot.
• 27:10
  SPEAKER_00: So silicone handles, you can get them on Amazon or whatever.
• 27:13
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but I do like those.
• 27:14
  SPEAKER_00: So, biggest thing when it comes to cast iron, caring for it and making sure that that gets the longevity or whatever, um, is seasoning.
• 27:21
  SPEAKER_00: So, seasoning your pan is something that why do you season it?
• 27:25
  SPEAKER_00: It's because you need to be um provide a barrier for uh rust protection, essentially, is the biggest one, and to provide a nonstick surface.
• 27:36
  SPEAKER_00: So, nonstick pans that you buy at the store are full of cancer.
• 27:40
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not gonna get into that too much.
• 27:43
  SPEAKER_00: Basically, like if you if you actually go down the rabbit hole, it's disgusting what is in some of the pans, like specifically nonstick, because it's just like Teflon and forever chemicals that stay in your body.
• 27:53
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, anyways, another day.
• 27:55
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so the initial seasoning, if you buy a pan, your initial seasoning is basically just putting on a um a layer, a thin layer of oil, and putting it in the oven for 45 to 60 minutes.
• 28:05
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not gonna go through the step by step.
• 28:07
  SPEAKER_00: It's very easily Google Googlable.
• 28:10
  SPEAKER_00: You Googleable.
• 28:11
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but that's the initial seasoning.
• 28:13
  SPEAKER_00: So when you're looking for, when you're looking for a seasoning oil, there's two things you have to look for.
• 28:18
  SPEAKER_00: Something with a high smoke point.
• 28:20
  SPEAKER_00: Now, we talked about this before.
• 28:21
  SPEAKER_00: I think DIYs, because I was talking about the wax I made for these.
• 28:24
  SPEAKER_00: That's exactly what it was.
• 28:25
  SPEAKER_00: Um, high smoke point, you know about it because you have a black stone.
• 28:28
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 28:28
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 28:29
  SPEAKER_00: So whatever temperature you are going to be seasoning in the oven.
• 28:33
  SPEAKER_00: So say you're using 500 degrees, for example, you want your smoke point of your oil to be a little bit above that.
• 28:39
  SPEAKER_00: You are going to get a little bit of smoke, but you don't want your kitchen turning into like, I don't know, an 80s disco.
• 28:45
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe you do.
• 28:46
  SPEAKER_00: Like maybe listen, I don't know.
• 28:48
  SPEAKER_00: But it would be a fog machine.
• 28:49
  SPEAKER_00: It's better for your cast iron that one.
• 28:51
  SPEAKER_00: Exactly, and crack a window for crazy sake.
• 28:53
  SPEAKER_00: Anyways, you need so you need that high temperature.
• 28:55
  SPEAKER_00: The like you you could just say, why don't you use a lower temperature?
• 28:58
  SPEAKER_00: Because that's ridiculous.
• 29:00
  SPEAKER_00: You need that for polymerization, which is that coating, like the hardening of that coating.
• 29:03
  SPEAKER_00: You need it, and that's what gives you the non-stick, and that's what gives you the protection too against the rust.
• 29:07
  SPEAKER_00: So is that the reason for the seasoning?
• 29:10
  SPEAKER_00: That would be the reasoning for the seasoning, I would say the D for D is a homestead.
• 29:19
  SPEAKER_00: We don't get out much.
• 29:20
  SPEAKER_00: We truly don't.
• 29:22
  SPEAKER_00: If I'm not at my house, I'm at her house.
• 29:24
  SPEAKER_00: In the closet.
• 29:25
  SPEAKER_00: Anyways.
• 29:25
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so the other thing you want to look for is a oil that is high in unsaturated fat.
• 29:31
  SPEAKER_00: Now, how I explain unsaturated fat to my patients is uh liquid at room temperature because saturated fat is usually hard at room temperature.
• 29:38
  SPEAKER_00: So when it comes to your butter, your um fat on your steak, or like your coconut oil, which is high in saturated fat.
• 29:43
  SPEAKER_00: So you want something that's unsaturated.
• 29:45
  SPEAKER_00: Good example is avocado oil.
• 29:47
  SPEAKER_00: Another one is what's the other one?
• 29:49
  SPEAKER_00: Um the other, yes, olive oil would be the other one.
• 29:53
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but avocado has a higher smoke point, so smoke point of like 500 to 520, which is crazy.
• 29:58
  SPEAKER_01: That's what I use in my blackstone.
• 29:59
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 30:00
  SPEAKER_01: Avocado oil, yeah.
• 30:01
  SPEAKER_00: Yep.
• 30:01
  SPEAKER_00: And that's a good one to use for seasoning.
• 30:04
  SPEAKER_00: Um, this is the initial seasoning, like I said, like these are the two things you want to look for.
• 30:08
  SPEAKER_00: Routine cleaning.
• 30:10
  SPEAKER_00: You have a cast iron that you don't do this.
• 30:13
  SPEAKER_00: That you don't, maybe you will, because I can give you some of my stuff.
• 30:16
  SPEAKER_00: But routine cleaning is another thing.
• 30:18
  SPEAKER_00: So when we clean our our cast irons, we clean them, we put them back on the stove for a little bit, and I put a wax, a wax that I make, obviously, um, all around.
• 30:27
  SPEAKER_00: So that just kind of gives it a little bit of protection each time um after each cleaning.
• 30:31
  SPEAKER_00: Soap and water is fine to use on cast iron.
• 30:34
  SPEAKER_00: A lot of people think, because it's been passed down that soap is not good for cast iron, and that's because way back in the day, soap is still made from lye.
• 30:42
  SPEAKER_00: But if like homemade soap or whatever wasn't um cured long enough, that lye wasn't necessarily like past the point where it could harm these.
• 30:51
  SPEAKER_01: And it's an acid, right?
• 30:52
  SPEAKER_01: Lye is an acid?
• 30:53
  SPEAKER_01: Very much so.
• 30:54
  SPEAKER_01: Like hydroxic acid.
• 30:56
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I have it at home.
• 30:57
  SPEAKER_01: I looked at the recipe to make homemade dish soap, actually.
• 30:59
  SPEAKER_01: I'm going down that rabbit hole myself.
• 31:01
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I have some, so don't buy it.
• 31:03
  SPEAKER_00: The actual chemicals way out of uh my little guy's reach.
• 31:06
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but yes, open water.
• 31:08
  SPEAKER_00: You don't want to soak your pans, like if you have a sink full of water, you don't want to just soak them.
• 31:13
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so it's it's one that we kind of get to right away.
• 31:16
  SPEAKER_00: Uh what you're gonna use is chain mail.
• 31:19
  SPEAKER_00: So if you your neighborhood knight, your friendly neighborhood knight in shining armor.
• 31:26
  SPEAKER_00: I know a knight.
• 31:27
  SPEAKER_00: Or a meat cutter, or a meat cutter, they use them for their for their gloves.
• 31:30
  SPEAKER_00: Or if you know somebody who swims with sharks, I do.
• 31:33
  SPEAKER_00: I did one time, um, but I don't have chain mail.
• 31:36
  SPEAKER_00: But, anyways, that's what it sounds ridiculous, and that's what I think of as like Heath Ledger in a nice tail.
• 31:41
  SPEAKER_00: But chain mail is really what you should be using.
• 31:44
  SPEAKER_00: I have a circular scrubby that has chain mail on it, and I also have one that's kind of like just a square of it, so you can get into the corners to get the nitty-gritty off.
• 31:53
  SPEAKER_00: If you have stuck food on your cast iron, do not use steel wool, do not use like anything abrasive.
• 32:00
  SPEAKER_00: The best way to do it, and we use this so many times, uh not a day, but we we use it quite often.
• 32:06
  SPEAKER_00: Put a little bit of water in it, um, usually when it's still warm, but you can let it cool and then and start this this process.
• 32:12
  SPEAKER_00: But put a little bit of water, a little bit of dish soap, and simmer it on the stove.
• 32:16
  SPEAKER_00: Once you start to see that steam rising from the the water, take it into your sink and scrub it with your scrubby.
• 32:22
  SPEAKER_00: Again, you're not touching the like where it's gonna be hot.
• 32:25
  SPEAKER_00: So just do what you do what you want to do with that.
• 32:27
  SPEAKER_00: Put your silicone handle on it.
• 32:29
  SPEAKER_00: Put your silicone handle on it, put your chain mail on.
• 32:32
  SPEAKER_01: When I think chain mail, I think remember those things you should send a rest.
• 32:35
  SPEAKER_01: Tend this to five people or you'll die by midnight.
• 32:38
  SPEAKER_01: Remember those oh chain mail.
• 32:41
  SPEAKER_01: Chain mail like ICQ, like, oh send this to five friends immediately, or you're gonna chain them eyes at 11 pm.
• 32:47
  SPEAKER_00: Spelled the same way, actually.
• 32:49
  SPEAKER_00: Chain mail.
• 32:49
  SPEAKER_00: Chain mail, but that's funny.
• 32:50
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, okay.
• 32:51
  SPEAKER_00: No, you don't need ICQ to uh clean your cast iron, unfortunately.
• 32:55
  SPEAKER_00: Kids are missing out these days.
• 32:56
  SPEAKER_00: Oh my god, that's a that's a certain audience that's gonna get that one.
• 32:59
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but anyway, so little no dinosaur.
• 33:02
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 33:03
  SPEAKER_00: Not the mama.
• 33:04
  SPEAKER_00: Um put on, okay.
• 33:06
  SPEAKER_00: So so once you get your food off, you're gonna dry it out.
• 33:09
  SPEAKER_00: I usually use paper towel for this because it kind of turns everything black.
• 33:11
  SPEAKER_00: So paper towel, use whatever you want.
• 33:13
  SPEAKER_00: Um, then you're gonna put it back on the stove on low heat, and you're gonna so this kind of like dries it completely.
• 33:19
  SPEAKER_00: Like I said, cast iron is, or maybe I didn't say that, is porous.
• 33:23
  SPEAKER_00: That's the reason that we that's that is the reasoning for the seasoning, okay.
• 33:26
  SPEAKER_00: Is because it's porous.
• 33:28
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so you want to dry it completely, and the best way to do that quickly is to just put it on the stove.
• 33:33
  SPEAKER_00: And this is when you can apply your wax because the wax will obviously be heated, it's easier to move around.
• 33:38
  SPEAKER_00: I make a wax myself, all that's in it is beeswax, tallow, of course, and avocado oil.
• 33:44
  SPEAKER_00: So it's hard, obviously, room temperature.
• 33:46
  SPEAKER_00: So I just either pop that puck, it's uh I make them in like muffin tins, but pop it in the pan, and then it it melts down a little bit, and then you just rub off the excess.
• 33:54
  SPEAKER_00: Again, I use paper towel, but I just don't want all my dishcloths to be all oily.
• 33:59
  SPEAKER_00: And then you store your cast irons in a cool, dry place because humidity will cause rust, and you don't want to deal with that.
• 34:05
  SPEAKER_01: So I store mine in my oven.
• 34:08
  SPEAKER_01: And I usually remember to take it out before I turn my oven on, but most I'm gonna say I don't all the time.
• 34:14
  SPEAKER_01: So it heats up every time I put my oven on, and then I open the thing to put my cookies in.
• 34:17
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, oh shit, my cast iron's in there.
• 34:19
  SPEAKER_01: Because it's too heavy in your oven.
• 34:21
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, I get you.
• 34:21
  SPEAKER_01: I find it's too heavy to put it in like a that's why I hang them on the wall.
• 34:25
  SPEAKER_00: I hang them on the walls.
• 34:26
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
• 34:26
  SPEAKER_00: I went to the plumbing section and got a whole bunch of things to make.
• 34:30
  SPEAKER_00: I'll have to get some of that wax for me though, because maybe I'll maybe I'll wax it.
• 34:33
  SPEAKER_00: So the benefits actually of having a wax versus just an oil.
• 34:36
  SPEAKER_00: There's nothing wrong with just using oil between cleanings.
• 34:39
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but it does provide a little bit of better rust protection.
• 34:42
  SPEAKER_00: So like it's moisture resistant.
• 34:43
  SPEAKER_00: It just helps keep the moisture away from it.
• 34:47
  SPEAKER_00: Better non-stick surface, and it's easier to kind of get an even coat.
• 34:50
  SPEAKER_00: Um and it's it prevents residue.
• 34:54
  SPEAKER_00: So some oils that you can get, again, just do your research on what oils are best.
• 34:57
  SPEAKER_00: Um, some oils are kind of sticky and whatever, but just a really quick plug on seed oils, though.
• 35:02
  SPEAKER_00: Seed oils themselves are are extracted using a chemically um chemical industrial process to make them shelf stable.
• 35:11
  SPEAKER_00: Obviously, that's why everybody does everything.
• 35:12
  SPEAKER_00: It's cheaper and it's uh shelf stable.
• 35:14
  SPEAKER_00: But when using these seed oils, this is why smoke point is important.
• 35:18
  SPEAKER_00: When you heat seed oils up to these extreme temperatures, like 450 and above, they produce harmful potentially carcinogenic compounds.
• 35:26
  SPEAKER_00: The cancer.
• 35:27
  SPEAKER_00: The cancers.
• 35:28
  SPEAKER_00: So this is not something I want on my cookware.
• 35:30
  SPEAKER_00: I don't think anybody does, but it could just be you're using it and you just don't know.
• 35:33
  SPEAKER_00: So that is a good point to think of.
• 35:35
  SPEAKER_00: What are seed oils?
• 35:36
  SPEAKER_00: I see grapeseed oil.
• 35:37
  SPEAKER_00: Grapeseed oil, flaxseed, sunflower seed, canola oil, which is actually stands for Canadian oil low acid.
• 35:45
  SPEAKER_00: There's no such thing as a canola plant, it comes from rapeseed.
• 35:48
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 35:48
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 35:49
  SPEAKER_00: So, anyways, that's just one of the one of the ones that was made back whenever.
• 35:53
  SPEAKER_00: But avocado and olive oil are actually fruit oils.
• 35:56
  SPEAKER_00: Did you know that?
• 35:56
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I do.
• 35:57
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I do.
• 35:58
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I mean, I'm gonna say I did.
• 35:59
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 36:00
  SPEAKER_00: So those are those are good to use, and those are both good in uh unsaturated fat.
• 36:04
  SPEAKER_00: So another fruit oil is coconut, for example, but that's solid at room temperature, so it hits high in um insaturated fat.
• 36:11
  SPEAKER_00: So, anyways, that's just a little rundown.
• 36:13
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but these are again, like I said, there's there's a lot to it.
• 36:17
  SPEAKER_00: There's some steps, but when you do it a couple times, this is just part of the doing the dishes now.
• 36:21
  SPEAKER_00: Like it's just our chain mail is right in the little thing with all the other scrubbies.
• 36:25
  SPEAKER_00: So do you sell this wax?
• 36:27
  SPEAKER_00: I don't.
• 36:28
  SPEAKER_01: You should, because I I want some for my black stone.
• 36:30
  SPEAKER_01: Because I leave my black stone outside, so what a good way to keep it.
• 36:34
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's true.
• 36:34
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we well, we have a black stone too.
• 36:36
  SPEAKER_00: We just don't we don't use it as much as you guys do.
• 36:38
  SPEAKER_00: But yeah, I will um I'll sell it to you.
• 36:42
  SPEAKER_00: Not for wide distribution.
• 36:43
  SPEAKER_00: Not yet.
• 36:44
  SPEAKER_01: Not yet, anyway.
• 36:45
  SPEAKER_01: Oh my lord.
• 36:46
  SPEAKER_01: Oh my lord.
• 36:46
  SPEAKER_01: So cough, cold, and cast iron.
• 36:50
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• 36:51
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• 36:53
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• 37:00
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