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Don Scarbrough on Accountability, Taxes and Georgia House District 113 – Episode 108 · The Town Square Podcast

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[SPEAKER_02]: Welcome to the Town Square podcast where local advocates for a better community bring their different perspectives into the messy middle to have a conversation where our aim is unity, not uniformity.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And today we are in our series, Candidate Conversations.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I know you've already been watching a few of these.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I hope you have and you're able to kind of pick which candidate is right for you, come November.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And today's guest is vying for the seat.
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[SPEAKER_02]: the open seat in District 113 that was left by Sharon Henderson.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If you remember representatives of Henderson, so today let's welcome to the Tansquare podcast, Don Scarborough.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Welcome Mr. Scarborough.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Thanks for having me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm getting the name right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Scarborough.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Scarborough.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, because when I went to spell it, I kept trying to put the burrow.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I kept trying to put the O before the R, but it's not that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is BR, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's not a burrow.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so my uncle was a criminal when he immigrated to the United States.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that was quite some time ago.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And they took the O out of our names so that they couldn't find him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That is hilarious.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That is a fact.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's great, man.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I hope a statute of limitations is up on whatever.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, he's long gone.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a good answer.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, for folks who are watching, and I know this gets confusing sometimes when we's talking about the Georgia Assembly, General Assembly, and we talk about the different districts.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So district 113.
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[SPEAKER_02]: is completely inside Newton County that used to be all over the place, but now it's completely inside Newton County and it basically encompasses the western side of the county, certainly where Newton and Rockdale connect.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's that whole area and then you got from the square all the way to Rockdale and then you get the western side, what else?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like almond portadale, almond portadale,
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[SPEAKER_02]: Fairview and Croll Road, Kirkland Road, Salem Road, Brown Bridge, all that kind of area, but pretty much just West Newton.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, and that's must be where you live then if you're going to rush into the district you live out there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right, so for voters who are meeting you for the first time, tell us who you are, like who is Don Scarborough.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This episode is brought to you by Headbanger's Tap House.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What exactly is Headbanger's Tap House?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, Gabriel, imagine cold beer, good food, sports on the TVs, and a bunch of people having entirely too much fun.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right, I'm listening.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right, when now you put all of that under one roof on Highway 278 and coming to and let my buddy Casey Durin help run the place.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now that sounds potentially dangerous.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It gets even better.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They've got a rotating lineup of beer on tap, craft wine too.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Music, bingo, laugh music on the weekends.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, stop stop.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You have me bro at beer and lies music.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, there you go.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's headbangers' top house.
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[SPEAKER_02]: 51, 25, highway 278 and coming to an across from Bo-Jangles.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Come thirsty, come hungry, and bring your friends.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And apparently stretch your neck first too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because of the headbands, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right, right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well good advice.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then you can drink loud and rock hard.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, let me try that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Headbangers tap house.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I get it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You can.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, find them on Facebook or check them out online at www.headbangerstaphouse.com.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's www.headbangerstaphouse.com.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just a regular guy, I'm not rich, I'm just a working guy, I was approached to do this job by some people who knew me and said that they needed somebody to fill that seat.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There haven't been any conservative candidates in that district in over a decade.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's been a minute.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's been a while.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've never really had any intention of getting into politics at this level, and my wife wasn't very supportive at first.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She's not a public spotlight kind of person.
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[SPEAKER_02]: She's a little related doctor, huh?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She's on board now, but once he realized, you know, where I stood and what I was trying to do, she kind of got that guy in.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She's on board with me now, but
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[SPEAKER_00]: I believe that laws should be based on our Constitution, and I think it's, as we violate that Constitution, there should be consequences and repercussions.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that the people should be supported by the government, not oppressed by them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like taxation is basically government sanctioned blackmail.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, that's a strong word.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I mean, it's how I feel and I'll stand on my principles.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I live or die, I'm going to stand on that hill.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I, uh, I'm just a simple guy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I do IT work.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was in the military for a little while and then,
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[SPEAKER_00]: went overseas in some combat areas.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm really just nothing special.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just your average working man just like any great many of Georgians.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think that gives me a different sort of perspective and just being not a politician.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Not being a politician, not being rich.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I don't, I don't own tons of businesses and have
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, screws make up money and that kind of stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just, I'm just a working guy and I try to take care of my family and and worship God and and try to do the right things is best I can so you believe then that's that's why you're running because you believe that you're just like everybody else in Western Newton County, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like you're they're working class people who who.
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[SPEAKER_02]: probably have a faith of some sort that they adhere to.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And like you think, hey, I can represent you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, and I think most of Georgia is that way, honestly.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, probably most of the United States, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then maybe a few of the big cities.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Everybody's the same person.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's the same person.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But, you know, we're a lot alike.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We get more in common than we have difference.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And they saw both sides of the aisle.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I wish people could realize that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, our whole show is based around the messy middle, and we've kind of talking about it outside just a second ago before we really cranked up.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I personally, I believe, and that's why we have, we do this, is that the majority of us do live in the messy middle.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, we don't pick one whole side and live on that polar extreme from one another.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, we go to work and the grocery store with the same people who were the Republican or Democrat or independent, we're all...
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[SPEAKER_02]: people kind of, you know, trying to live our lives and pay for our groceries and, you know, make the house note and go to work in the morning, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And mostly want to be left along to do those things.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So you're saying you were talking about a taxation being like a government, uh, government sanctioned extortion.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So you're just digging into that for just a second before we get really into things like, what do you, what do you really say in there?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I mean,
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[SPEAKER_00]: take him income tax for example.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What is the government the right to take my money just for the simple fact that I earned it?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They didn't earn it the government doesn't earn anything and that's that's something that people need to understand the government doesn't earn anything They don't produce anything and all they do with spend and there's and the things that they spend on often Don't fulfill
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[SPEAKER_00]: the requirements that they're trying to meet when it comes to protecting the people and taking care of the people.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The basic things.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The basic things.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Because they do provide services with those funds, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, certainly believe in some of the services they provide.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you were all on the army, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Law enforcement, you know, national protection like the army.
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[SPEAKER_00]: fire services, health services, ambulance, hospitals, things like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's a big one for me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's a big one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was getting there, but especially in Georgia.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But we can go down that rabbit hole if you want to look it there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So the government's taking our, we're paying attacks, whether we want to or not, so I guess they are taking it in a sense, and you're saying they should provide basic services, but you're saying they spend it on things maybe they shouldn't.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, not only that is I think they take too much of it, okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think they take, they take entirely too much.
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[SPEAKER_00]: don't don't cost what the government says they cost.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, they sell all these things supposedly the lowest bidders get these contracts and things.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But well, it's just like you want to talk about the education thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It draws me back to that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, George has spent 52% of its annual budget on education yet worth 39th in the nation in reading and math.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Mississippi doesn't spend half that and they're now in the top 10 when they were once dead last.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So where's that money going?
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[SPEAKER_00]: What are we doing with it?
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like have you dug into that a little more if you know why Mississippi is where they are?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like they they instituted
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's called the Science of Reading, but it's basically probably how you and how it would just go like phonics and phonemic awareness.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like the simple things where we got off of that train for 20 years.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then now we're, now we're 39th in the state, you know, and now we have literacy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Two or three generations of kids who can barely talk much less read.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I know.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's sad.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And we need to fix that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you can't communicate, if you can't read a book, if you can't read simple instructions, you can't keep a job.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And what does that do to your economy?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, yeah, it's going to, well, all of us hurt when we can't do our jobs and if we don't can't hold a job.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So you think, so what is this, what is the solution?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like how you're, you're saying, they're spending too much, but do you think taking the resources away makes us better readers and mathematicians?
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, I'm not necessarily saying taking the resources away.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: until what was in 1913.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think we're one something like that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think you're right somewhere in there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and don't quote me on those numbers.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know, I know it's somewhere in that area.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it was just support the war effort, but just like everything else that the government does once they say, oh, we're getting heaps of money off of that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're not gonna stop it like we said we did.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's boss taxes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, exactly the same thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You see all these boss taxes, these special use taxes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I actually have had commissioners and stuff and I'm not gonna name names.
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[SPEAKER_00]: In a couple of different counties tell me, yeah, once we get those in place, people get used to them and we just, we don't turn them off.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Even though it says we're supposed to, we just keep breaking in that money.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I guess it goes before the the citizens every five years or whatever it is that it's in the citizens just keep voting for it, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like I guess maybe maybe how it's worded on the on the ballot sometimes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what the confusion is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I never I never vote for those years like never.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Never, never Splosca.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I don't believe in that exorbitant taxation.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think we should find a way if we're going to, and don't get me wrong.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think Texas is a necessary, because of the basic services that you spoke of.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I think there's a way a better way to do it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The gargantuan system that is the IRS is not necessary.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, I'm not going into office at that level to do anything about that, but I'm just, I'm just giving you my thoughts on that issue.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think if we, and this, this might term some people off, but I think if we,
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[SPEAKER_00]: went to something like a flat tax or a fair tax where everybody is a consumption tax.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so everybody pays the sign regardless of where you're a billionaire or a thousand-hageer.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_00]: So,
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[SPEAKER_02]: And in that amount of money it's proportional to what you may, to just a percentage based flat or fair taxes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, and then, of course, people in lower income brackets, they don't pay tax anyway.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's something that people forget that the lowest income brackets, they're unable to pay taxes and they're not required to do so.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But they're the ones who get the subsidies.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So would you do it with the sales tax altogether if you had a flat tax with the I don't I don't know the math of it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I believe that whatever the tax is should be a sales tax of some so I got you okay so because that way
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[SPEAKER_00]: You got a drug dealer wants to go out and buy a million dollar Lamborghini.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, he's got to pay tax on it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Just the same rate that I would.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly the same.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You're going to buy that Kia that I got right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So he can't, he can't, you know, avoid his taxes because it's built into that system.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's hardwired into that system.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it can't be avoided.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And at that rate, that means everybody's paying taxes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you can probably cut out a slice of exemptions for the lowest income people, the people who are at poverty level.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I wouldn't have a problem with that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But then everybody's paying taxes, you've got more people and legal immigrants.
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[SPEAKER_00]: never pay a dime of tax in their life, but they're on some of our systems.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But now they're paying into it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I guess it's even for those, like you said, billionaires, there's no loop holes now, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like it's not like you're writing off this or that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like if whatever you buy, it's just taxed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It is what it is.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, you make a dollar, you pay 10 cents.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And if everybody's doing that,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Immigrants that aren't necessarily supposed to be here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, uh, uh, illegal functions, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, crumb syndicates and things like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Never thought of ever paying a dime of tax.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Suddenly they're liable for tax.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I would, I'd be interested in hearing more about that like the actual math behind it because anything, I think the system we have is not working well and there's got to be a way to fix it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I'd be interested to read more about that for you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You just about have to be a tax lawyer to even under remotely understand it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The current system.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's funny to me how some of the richest people in the world pay the least amount of tax though, too, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like some of them really have figured out a ways to get around them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's see the thing is, is their money is built into their companies and all that stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So whatever salaries, people say that the rich people don't pay income tax.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But that's just the, they're salaries that they're paying tax on, and not the massive amounts of money that their company makes, but those companies pay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: they pay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What is it?
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[SPEAKER_00]: A top 2% of earners pay 50% of taxes?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, I'm like that's crazy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right, so we're in campaign season and you're running up to this race, I'm sorry, you're in this race to win this seat, district 13, you have a competitor, a Democrat, but you, you are position yourself as a conservative, yes, and part of your campaign kind of the slogan is to stop the Democratic agenda.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I would just kind of be interested to hear, like, that's strong language, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, we're in the messy middle.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's okay to get in here and talk about this.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What is the democratic agenda that you feel like kind of needs to be quelled or stop?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I think it's more, I guess I should probably redefine how I say that or say that a different way, because it's conservatives and Democrats are not what they used to be.
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[SPEAKER_00]: a true Democrat from 20 30 years ago.
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[SPEAKER_00]: These days would be considered a conservative.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's true.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I guess I think I think probably the socialist, the Democratic socialist agenda or that kind of, that's what I'm after.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think that stuff belongs in the United States.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So the far left then.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I don't know that it's so far anymore.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what concerns me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, we do hear a lot about it right now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This democratic socialist movement.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's, I mean, it's everywhere.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And they have no shame anymore.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They don't try to hide it at all these days, huh?
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[SPEAKER_00]: People in the streets, oh, I'm a socialist.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm a socialist and you'll see that on interviews on social media and stuff like that all the time and it's just it, it's disturbing to me, it's disturbing because they don't know what they are asking for socialism has never worked in the history of the world and I don't know where they're getting their information from.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, isn't it usually their the current strand of democratic socialism is like, well we'll get it right like just no one's gotten it right yet like this time we'll get it right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, I mean, historically it hasn't fared well, yes, that is true.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I mean, look at, look at England now with all the immigration and you can't say anything on the street anymore.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You can't fly a British flag or the English flag in England without getting in trouble.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, gosh.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, they have, they have like, you say certain things, you can go to jail, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, right, I'm not into that, for sure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so yeah, so that's why I want to get away from the socialist agenda, the democratic socialist agenda, because I mean, what happens to our freedom of speech or are right to protect ourselves by bearing arms?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, there's just unlawful search and seizure and that sort of thing, getting into that,
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I just reread 1984 or well, and it's crazy how much of that feels like it's still present or coming back or whatever you want to call it.
18:54
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, I think it's growing.
18:56
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's and we're letting a minority of the population dictate what we do as citizens in America and they are.
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[SPEAKER_00]: somehow magically voting in these people that push those agendas.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Look at Mondami and New York.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That one is that one breaks my brain.
19:17
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm telling you, same, same.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't I keep quite understand it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I wonder if they're going to see this mass exodus of wealthy business owners, you know, because that's that's who he's going after, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like he makes no bones about it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I mean, he straight up wants a
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[SPEAKER_00]: an emplacement.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He wants New York to be under sharia law.
19:38
[SPEAKER_00]: No.
19:39
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
19:40
[SPEAKER_00]: Really?
19:40
[SPEAKER_00]: I believe so.
19:41
[SPEAKER_00]: 100%.
19:41
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, my gosh.
19:43
[SPEAKER_00]: I believe so.
19:44
[SPEAKER_00]: He's going after all the big money.
19:46
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
19:47
[SPEAKER_00]: He's running all of the big business out of New York.
19:51
[SPEAKER_00]: And, well, just look at, like, Dearborn Michigan, all the people that they voted in, yeah, in Dearborn Michigan, and it, it is basically, now they are under Surreal, or, but pretty much, and what is that allowed?
20:04
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, the people, the people, the people voting for it, I guess they are.
20:09
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, at this point, what choice do they have?
20:11
[SPEAKER_02]: I know.
20:13
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, riddle me this, bet, man.
20:16
[SPEAKER_02]: Because recently, I heard on a different podcast, I may have been Joe Rogan or something, but they were talking about how this, why?
20:24
[SPEAKER_02]: They were talking about the, why?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Why is the Democratic Socialism kind of surfaced them back up again?
20:29
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, why is this a thing that we're even talking about?
20:31
[SPEAKER_02]: Do these kids not know their history?
20:33
[SPEAKER_02]: And part of it is they don't know the history.
20:35
[SPEAKER_02]: But it seems to be a bigger part.
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[SPEAKER_02]: center around like a fortability.
20:39
[SPEAKER_02]: And so if you don't have a stake in the game, like if you feel like I can't purchase land, I can't purchase a house.
20:47
[SPEAKER_02]: Like I don't have the means to do that because of the way the economy works right now.
20:52
[SPEAKER_02]: All these corporate industries have entities have bought up.
20:56
[SPEAKER_02]: the rental properties, they bought it land and, you know, like, so we've kind of got the things that are blackstone and all those.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Who ever the owner?
21:04
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll say, I'll say, I know you will.
21:06
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, this is going to be fun.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But what, what's that happens in, like, young people can't have a, they don't, they don't have a seat of the table.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They can't buy land.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They can't realize the American dream.
21:18
[SPEAKER_02]: Then all of a sudden, these, these kind of more
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[SPEAKER_02]: But at least become something they look at as an alternative.
21:31
[SPEAKER_02]: And we could go, yeah, I mean, we're old enough to go in the history, it doesn't play out like that guys.
21:36
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, just just read a history book.
21:37
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not going to work out, but it's hard to convince them.
21:41
[SPEAKER_02]: Because they're like, but how else do I get a say at the table?
21:44
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, how do I get my needs met if I don't have any opportunities?
21:48
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't get to participate in some American dream.
21:50
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, that's a used to be a thing.
21:52
[SPEAKER_02]: Not a thing anymore.
21:53
[SPEAKER_02]: This is what they might say.
21:56
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't necessarily disagree with that.
21:58
[SPEAKER_02]: But you don't see that as an option though.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, but see that's, but I know history.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And all I have to do is take a good hard look at Venezuela.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's not even history.
22:12
[SPEAKER_00]: That is pretty current.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's earned events.
22:14
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
22:16
[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't understand.
22:18
[SPEAKER_00]: So I think part of this goes again back to the education, they don't educate themselves.
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[SPEAKER_00]: teaching kids how to have independent thought and researching things for themselves.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Now, of course, you go over the basics given the skills they need to live life, right, but teach them how to thank for themselves and critical thinking.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely.
22:42
[SPEAKER_00]: And if you just pull up a computer and look on the internet and say, well, what's going on in Venezuela now?
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[SPEAKER_00]: starvation.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then you can go further back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Rush and Germany with the bread lines.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I think part of what that stuff is is
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[SPEAKER_00]: because they don't have or they don't think they have an avenue towards the American dream.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They fall into that trap because the true communists, the ones that are out there pedaling that are in their heads saying, well, you know, if you vote for me and put me in power, then I'll just give you what you want.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you think there's some promises being made that they'll never be able to un-doubtedly?
23:36
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that that goes without question.
23:38
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that in a lot of cases it's about power and again, me just being a working man.
23:50
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I don't have that count of power and I, I don't know what I would do with it if I did have it.
23:55
[SPEAKER_00]: I would, I'm afraid of it to be quite frank with you, I just want to try to help the people who are trying to reach those American dreams by stopping some of the, um, the graph and the,
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[SPEAKER_00]: in the inflation and that kind of thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And just why don't I can do, you know, helping to help and take the burden off the people including myself because I am just working.
24:20
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
24:21
[SPEAKER_02]: So if you were to win this house seat, what do you, like, certainly you've thought about what are some ideas then that would help with that?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like what are some ideas that would help with the affordability or the overspending?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Or whatever you think's really happening in the gold dome?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like how do you fight back against it if you win?
24:38
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think that there should be a single red cent that's a lot of to anything that isn't traced and tracks and vetted before it ever gets there.
24:50
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, um, I think every every penny that spent should be available for the public to see where it went, how much went there and what it paid for, um, and how successful those programs were.
25:16
[SPEAKER_00]: Another thing, too, is the taxation piece of it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You don't only need anything in the United States, because you don't pay your taxes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They can go and take it from you.
25:23
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
25:25
[SPEAKER_00]: So what happened to the rights to property?
25:28
[SPEAKER_00]: That, or any of the cost of tuition?
25:30
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh-huh.
25:32
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, so that leads me to things like property tax.
25:41
[SPEAKER_00]: I have a daughter who has gone to private school here in Newton County for the entire she's a senior now and for the entirety of her school career she has gone to private school.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Why should I have to pay school tax?
25:56
[SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm.
25:57
[SPEAKER_00]: Why should somebody who's 60 years old doesn't have kids is not raising kids.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Why should they have to pay school tax?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Why should that be added to their property tax?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I'm going to let you have your say, because I want to jump in there and go point point for point with you, but this is your time and that's an popular opinion though.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like what you are repeating is something that certainly we hear seniors 65 and over at at school board meetings or definitely say, and hey, either I've never had a getting school or I don't have one now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So it is a sentiment.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I wonder if
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[SPEAKER_02]: the taxes were lower if they would still have that same argument um i don't know maybe they still would philosophically maybe they would still have the same argument um but i just wonder if property assessments have gotten so high that it it just looks like the school system well which is the metal at a rate that's something they can't afford that i mean that that is part of it too and i was gonna get to that but
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't know, you probably, you may not like my thoughts on this position, but I'm even stronger on that because I think that people who don't have kids should never pay school tax.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't care if you're 25 years old.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I mean, I've never had a house fire.
27:18
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't want to pay his fire tax.
27:23
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I have my house burned down when I was the last time I was in I right.
27:28
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, that's a double way.
27:29
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, my gosh, man.
27:31
[SPEAKER_00]: Sure did.
27:32
[SPEAKER_00]: I was I was living in Madison.
27:33
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I got a phone call.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Mid August, and while I was in Iraq in the middle of night, saying that my house was burning into the ground.
27:44
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my gosh, man, there's nothing you could do.
27:46
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, that's the worst call in the world.
27:48
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
27:48
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
27:49
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, man, and as a matter of fact, that's that's when I moved back to Newton County.
27:53
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, what is it?
27:55
[SPEAKER_02]: How'd you bounce back?
27:56
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, that's just that's awful when you lose your house.
27:58
[SPEAKER_02]: Like you lost everything like you lost the house.
28:00
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah, everything.
28:01
[SPEAKER_00]: And then.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Not only do I lose my house, but, you know, looters came and actually stole the car off my property and broke into my sheds and stole all kinds of stuff.
28:11
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it was fun times.
28:13
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
28:13
[SPEAKER_00]: Why you're serving the, yeah, yeah, because I couldn't get back in time to move any of that stuff and it all got stolen.
28:18
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh my gosh, man.
28:19
[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm sorry, here on that.
28:20
[SPEAKER_02]: That leads me to crime.
28:24
[SPEAKER_02]: Tough on crime, I'm guessing.
28:25
[SPEAKER_02]: Is that what you're going to do?
28:26
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not a fan, I'm not a fan, I'm not a fan, I'm not a fan, I'm not a fan, I'm not a fan, I'm not a fan, I'm not a fan, I'm not a fan, I'm not a fan, I'm not a fan, I'm not a fan, I'm not a fan, I'm not a fan, I'm not a fan, I'm not a fan, I'm not a fan, I'm not a fan, I'm not a fan, I'm not a fan, I'm not a fan, I'm not a fan, I'm not a fan, I'm not a fan, I'm not a fan, I'm not a fan, I'm not a fan, I'm not a fan, I'm not a fan, I
28:48
[SPEAKER_00]: I think if we enforce the laws we have, we could sufficiently reduce a good portion of the crime that goes on in this state.
28:52
[SPEAKER_00]: If we, you know, you get these judges that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that,
29:07
[SPEAKER_00]: release criminals, criminals of who've committed violent crimes, just let them let them walk free.
29:15
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think though if we take a look at those judges and say, well, you knew this guy committed this many crimes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's done this for so long.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He has a long history of it.
29:27
[SPEAKER_00]: Yet you let him out on a cash free bail.
29:29
[SPEAKER_00]: And he went right around the corner and committed another
29:35
[SPEAKER_00]: Hmm, you're now responsible.
29:37
[SPEAKER_00]: Hmm.
29:39
[SPEAKER_00]: No, I wouldn't that be fair because you've got a kid who's killed somebody in a shooting and his parents are going to jail.
29:50
[SPEAKER_00]: So what's the difference?
29:51
[SPEAKER_00]: Hmm.
29:53
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't agree with that either.
29:54
[SPEAKER_00]: But, um, because I think
29:57
[SPEAKER_00]: You don't agree with which part.
29:59
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't I don't agree with a parent going to jail because a kid committed a crime.
30:02
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, okay.
30:05
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think that's the parental accountability thing is not something you're saying.
30:08
[SPEAKER_00]: No, parental I believe there is a parental accountability, but if the kid wanted to commit the crime, I'm sure they're going to find a way.
30:17
[SPEAKER_02]: I got you.
30:18
[SPEAKER_02]: What if the parent bought the gun and he said, is that part of the I don't know the story you're talking about, but that is part of the story the parent did by the gun and he bought the gun for the kid, but he didn't he I don't believe he was
30:30
[SPEAKER_00]: aware the kid had intentions of committing crime that he committed.
30:34
[SPEAKER_02]: So you think it's unfair punishment to the parent for something that the child did.
30:39
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, the parent purchased a gift for his child.
30:42
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, I got you.
30:43
[SPEAKER_00]: That'd be like me going, if I bought my kid a car, if he goes out and runs over somebody intentionally or not, and I go to jail for manslaughter.
30:51
[SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm.
30:52
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't see the difference.
30:53
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
30:55
[SPEAKER_02]: So, so tough on crime.
30:59
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm here in.
31:01
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, what are some other policy positions in your, you whole, like, well, I'm not, I am tough on crime, but I believe in fairness to you.
31:09
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
31:10
[SPEAKER_00]: So, like in the case of the judge, when the judge knows,
31:15
[SPEAKER_00]: things that are going on with whoever he's letting out of jail, it should be a little bit more cognizant of the possibility that that that criminal is going to go out.
31:25
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a bit of a pity that you're accountable.
31:28
[SPEAKER_02]: Is that what you were saying?
31:29
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you can unsee that I'm not saying throw the judge in jail.
31:33
[SPEAKER_00]: But I'm saying, you know, maybe they don't need that position.
31:36
[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
31:37
[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
31:39
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what I'm driving.
31:40
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
31:41
[SPEAKER_02]: Did you?
31:43
[SPEAKER_02]: Why are you running?
31:44
[SPEAKER_00]: Why am I running?
31:45
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
31:46
[SPEAKER_00]: Because I don't like the corruption.
31:48
[SPEAKER_00]: OK.
31:49
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't like being taxed into poverty.
31:51
[SPEAKER_00]: OK. And I just want to help people.
31:54
[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
31:55
[SPEAKER_02]: And you've got plans for this.
31:58
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I have my plans.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Have everything matched with everybody else in the house.
32:06
[SPEAKER_00]: Is yet to be seen.
32:07
[SPEAKER_00]: OK.
32:09
[SPEAKER_00]: But again, I have principles
32:13
[SPEAKER_02]: just don't feel like they're being represented right now.
32:16
[SPEAKER_02]: Those principles.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't.
32:18
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't.
32:20
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't.
32:21
[SPEAKER_00]: And even where I live now when I first moved there in 2014, everything, it was pretty great to spot where I live.
32:31
[SPEAKER_00]: But in the past few years, I've had my cars broken into, so I'm still running out of my yard, just really, oh, it happens all the time.
32:41
[SPEAKER_00]: saying, man.
32:42
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
32:43
[SPEAKER_00]: So, and it's not getting any better.
32:46
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, you know, the the crime rate in Newton County is I think it's 21.5% above state levels and I think 27% above federal.
32:56
[SPEAKER_00]: No, I had no idea.
33:03
[SPEAKER_00]: And that was as of, I think the last report, the last report that I could find on that was in 2024, and then his climb since then.
33:11
[SPEAKER_00]: So, hey, that's where we are.
33:15
[SPEAKER_02]: So how do you make a, how do you create a safer place?
33:19
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, what are the ideas?
33:24
[SPEAKER_00]: I'd love to know.
33:25
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, first and foremost, I am a staunch, second amendment supporter.
33:31
[SPEAKER_00]: We'll still, you're saying that'll help.
33:35
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
33:35
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
33:37
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, go ahead, staunch.
33:38
[SPEAKER_02]: I can abandon it.
33:39
[SPEAKER_02]: I interrupt you.
33:40
[SPEAKER_02]: No, you're not doing that.
33:42
[SPEAKER_00]: That should help.
33:43
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
33:44
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
33:45
[SPEAKER_00]: And it could also help eliminate repeat offenders.
33:51
[SPEAKER_00]: Not that not that I would ever want anybody to have to come to that.
33:54
[SPEAKER_00]: I understand.
33:54
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, we sit here to make light of it, but these are things that it's pretty serious.
34:01
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's the reason that I am running.
34:03
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want people in those positions.
34:05
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want people to have to deal with that.
34:06
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to hate see some 70 year old couple sitting in their living room at night watching wheel of fortune and their door get kicked in by three or four people.
34:17
[SPEAKER_00]: I just I don't want to see this kind of stuff right and I think I think we need to support the police when you just support law enforcement
34:29
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think they need to be law enforcement needs to be more active in patrol and and actually trying to root out the kinds of crimes that get people hurt.
34:43
[SPEAKER_02]: Some would say there's a hiring issue, like it's just hard to get good.
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[SPEAKER_02]: officers these days is probably about like a teaching job.
34:53
[SPEAKER_02]: I think those are the two.
34:54
[SPEAKER_02]: It seemed to be the hardest jobs to fill right now.
34:59
[SPEAKER_02]: So what is that?
34:59
[SPEAKER_02]: What does that solicitor?
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's saying take some of the re-apportion some of the funds that you get in the in the tax installers that you do get and put it towards sheriff's that sheriff's departments.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think hiring more, more deputies, more, more officers would be helpful.
36:27
[SPEAKER_00]: But I also think that a good portion of that money should go into their training.
36:33
[SPEAKER_00]: And so many times, I have seen reports and seen videos of law enforcement out in the wild, that doesn't even know the law they're trying to enforce.
36:47
[SPEAKER_00]: They couldn't tell you the code you broke.
36:51
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm iffy on,
36:54
[SPEAKER_00]: at this point with the way things are going and this is not going to win me any favors problem.
36:59
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what, I'm going to leave that one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think I'll leave that one one.
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[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
37:04
[SPEAKER_02]: You got to close that.
37:06
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to do it.
37:07
[SPEAKER_00]: I want it to.
37:08
[SPEAKER_02]: But.
37:09
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, we all want a more safer place.
37:13
[SPEAKER_02]: If there are ways in which we could do that, I mean, yeah, I would die.
37:17
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I think I think law enforcement just needs more.
37:24
[SPEAKER_00]: more advanced training, more in-depth training on the laws that enforce especially constitutional law.
37:31
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
37:33
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I actually had a couple of friends who are in law enforcement.
37:37
[SPEAKER_00]: And I know one of them never read the Constitution.
37:41
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, God, are you serious about what you're upholding, right?
37:46
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's the first and foremost set of laws that were ever made in this country.
37:51
[SPEAKER_00]: They stand before anything else.
37:53
[SPEAKER_02]: Everything's based on this.
37:54
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
37:57
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, man.
37:57
[SPEAKER_02]: So, yeah, that's a little disturbing.
38:00
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that's what they should be required to have some constitutional law courses in classes.
38:06
[SPEAKER_00]: And they need to pass them.
38:10
[SPEAKER_00]: In a, you know, with fine colors, honestly, if you're going to pull the law, you need to know what it is.
38:16
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
38:16
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
38:17
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, let's talk about something maybe you're intimately aware of you're in the IT industry.
38:23
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
38:24
[SPEAKER_02]: And one of the hottest topics on the planet right now is data centers.
38:30
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, and, you know, we were just passing by a second ago with Clint Crow, Representative Clint Crow from District 118 and we have a little chat and he was talking about, you know, the data center thing too.
38:41
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just such a hot topic and everyone's going to have to address it, um, who comes in this room, uh, because we have them in Newton County and we got them popping up all over the place, uh, I shouldn't say all over the place, but they're there.
38:55
[SPEAKER_02]: They're coming, whether we like it or not, it seems like, what is your take?
38:58
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you're not a team's tree.
38:59
[SPEAKER_02]: So, are you have been, do you still ever?
39:02
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I'm not working now because I've been doing this.
39:05
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, okay, I got you.
39:06
[SPEAKER_00]: Gotcha.
39:07
[SPEAKER_02]: But you've been in the team, but you know the importance of
39:10
[SPEAKER_02]: of technology and probably, uh, just speak to what you came in about data centers.
39:14
[SPEAKER_00]: Really?
39:15
[SPEAKER_00]: And I knew because I had that little IT thing in front of my name that, uh, this was going to come up.
39:24
[SPEAKER_00]: First of all, I'm not a fan of the data centers either.
39:30
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that, uh, I think it's, uh, uh,
39:37
[SPEAKER_00]: It's an industry that's in a bubble right now and I think it's going to burst.
39:41
[SPEAKER_00]: It's speculative.
39:42
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
39:43
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, they're going to toss up all these data centers.
39:48
[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't know if the ideas to use them for AI or to collect data on citizens, all that flock camera, it's got to go somewhere right don't don't get me started.
40:00
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, you will come on.
40:01
[SPEAKER_02]: Whoa, here you are.
40:02
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I'll tell you this.
40:03
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll tell you this.
40:04
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll tell you this.
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[SPEAKER_02]: ticket from one of those, just not too very long ago.
40:10
[SPEAKER_02]: It was like a receipt.
40:11
[SPEAKER_02]: Like it just gave you a ticket out of the air.
40:13
[SPEAKER_02]: What are you talking about?
40:14
[SPEAKER_00]: So, well, no, I got it.
40:15
[SPEAKER_00]: The ticket was mail to me, obviously, but my family were in Florida and they were coming back through Alabama and just driving low to line road, nothing nowhere, nobody around.
40:31
[SPEAKER_00]: And the flop camera took a
40:36
[SPEAKER_00]: Couldn't see who was driving and see me take it for for what speeding.
40:42
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
40:42
[SPEAKER_00]: So everything had had some sort of radar thing on it too.
40:46
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, so I called caught the people.
40:49
[SPEAKER_00]: I said, I'm not paying this.
40:51
[SPEAKER_00]: I said, you don't know who was driving.
40:52
[SPEAKER_00]: I wasn't driving and I wouldn't tell you if I was because under the fifth amendment, I don't have to, right?
40:58
[SPEAKER_00]: And where's my due process?
40:59
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
41:00
[SPEAKER_00]: You don't just send me the ticket.
41:01
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
41:02
[SPEAKER_00]: Where's my due process?
41:04
[SPEAKER_00]: And, uh, well, and I said, and who gets the money anyway?
41:08
[SPEAKER_00]: Aren't you a private corporation?
41:10
[SPEAKER_00]: Why am I sending money to you?
41:12
[SPEAKER_00]: Why wouldn't I be sending it to law enforcement?
41:14
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, that's odd.
41:15
[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't know they were sending you the ticket.
41:16
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, okay.
41:18
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
41:18
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
41:19
[SPEAKER_00]: On behalf of law enforcement.
41:20
[SPEAKER_00]: Nice.
41:21
[SPEAKER_00]: So they're the middle man now?
41:22
[SPEAKER_00]: I guess so.
41:23
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, um, I don't know enough about this to like speak.
41:26
[SPEAKER_02]: Well,
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll never pay it.
41:32
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll bail on that.
41:34
[SPEAKER_00]: Because they can't prove I did anything wrong.
41:37
[SPEAKER_00]: Where's my due process?
41:38
[SPEAKER_00]: They can't prove I committed a crime or any sort of isolation.
41:42
[SPEAKER_02]: Didn't give you a court data or anything?
41:44
[SPEAKER_02]: They did.
41:44
[SPEAKER_02]: But I call them for all that happen.
41:46
[SPEAKER_00]: You're like, I'm not driving back to Alabama.
41:47
[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
41:48
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, you'll just have to pay it then.
41:51
[SPEAKER_00]: They say, because they told me that I could, I could refute the ticket, but I would have to go to court to do it.
41:55
[SPEAKER_00]: I said, I'm not doing that.
41:57
[SPEAKER_00]: I said, this, this is a scam.
41:59
[SPEAKER_00]: That's how you get money out of people because they don't want to fool with it and they're scared of you But I'm telling you this is not constitutional It's not constitutional first of all.
42:07
[SPEAKER_00]: It's an invasion of my prophecy Secondly, there's no due process.
42:11
[SPEAKER_00]: You can't prove who was driving the vehicle I said it would be no different than somebody going into your kitchen grabbing a butcher knife and going out and murder and somebody and you getting charged for it
42:22
[SPEAKER_00]: What's the difference?
42:23
[SPEAKER_00]: So somebody took a picture of your butcher knife and they knew it was yours because your initials were on it.
42:28
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
42:29
[SPEAKER_00]: Couldn't see who's hand it was.
42:30
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
42:31
[SPEAKER_00]: Huh.
42:31
[SPEAKER_00]: What's the difference?
42:33
[SPEAKER_00]: Where's the due process?
42:35
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if we should put this thing out.
42:38
[SPEAKER_02]: you still got a ticket.
42:40
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't care.
42:41
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't care.
42:42
[SPEAKER_02]: I can tell you don't care.
42:44
[SPEAKER_00]: Like I said, I'm going to stand on my principles for my dying day.
42:49
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, that's good on you, but I'm telling you right now, that data center somewhere has that information.
42:56
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I don't think so.
42:57
[SPEAKER_02]: So what about these data centers?
42:58
[SPEAKER_02]: Like we got to have them, right?
43:03
[SPEAKER_02]: We don't have them.
43:04
[SPEAKER_00]: Why don't we have to have them?
43:06
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, were you starving to death before you had a cell phone?
43:10
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, now, do you eat data?
43:12
[SPEAKER_00]: Does it keep you alive?
43:14
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, why don't they eat them?
43:16
[SPEAKER_00]: This, this, this, it's going to be like a tube.
43:21
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, people make their money that way.
43:22
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't understand that.
43:23
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't, you know, I get it.
43:25
[SPEAKER_00]: But as far as the collection of data on people, that's, that's a different subject.
43:30
[SPEAKER_02]: That's right.
43:30
[SPEAKER_02]: It is stored in data data warehouses or data centers.
43:33
[SPEAKER_02]: But some data centers are,
43:35
[SPEAKER_02]: for that process some of them are for like we got meta in our backyard over here so right so we can scroll face book and get in arguments about politics and look at what you know somebody is you know watch this silly podcast every now and then so so you're not your stance is you just don't like them but i mean um i think that they are
44:02
[SPEAKER_00]: not essential infrastructure okay they are necessary to to a degree because business is using for cloud services and that you know you don't have to have server set up because they'll have right cloud servers and things like that and you can run your businesses that way and and I get that and I completely understand it but I think a lot of it too is being built to drive
44:29
[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, I was just not ready for so is A. I'm not ready for are we not ready for A. Yeah.
44:34
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, oh Okay Yes, now all right, and the reason I say that okay, as a matter of fact What if China gets their first?
44:45
[SPEAKER_02]: What if China bills all the data centers and they rule the world with the data now?
44:51
[SPEAKER_00]: What do what happens to us?
44:52
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I mean you can always pull the plug
44:55
[SPEAKER_02]: We can go to everybody goes off the grid.
44:58
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, no, we can go dark to the rest of the world.
45:00
[SPEAKER_00]: Not that I'm, and that's just, that's a far-fetch thing.
45:01
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not, I'm not advocating for that.
45:02
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not advocating for that, I'm not advocating for that, I'm not advocating for that, I'm not advocating for that, I'm not advocating for that, I'm not advocating for that, I'm not advocating for that, I'm not advocating for that, I'm not advocating for that, I'm not advocating for that, I'm not advocating for that, I'm not advocating for that, I'm not advocating for that, I'm not advocating for that, I'm not advocating for that, I'm not advocating for that, I'm not advocating for that, I'm not advocating for that, I'm not advocating for that, I'm not advocating for that, I'm not advocating for that, I'm not advocating for that, I'm not advocating for that
45:25
[SPEAKER_00]: But oh, I'm saying I don't believe they're essential infrastructure.
45:29
[SPEAKER_00]: But they are useful.
45:30
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
45:30
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think we need it's many of them.
45:33
[SPEAKER_00]: And again, the AI stuff, the reason I say that about the AI stuff, you're probably not aware, but I'm actually back in school working on another degree in regards to all of that stuff.
45:46
[SPEAKER_00]: And I just did a lot of study and wrote a few papers about the AI
45:55
[SPEAKER_00]: Do you know A.A. hallucinates?
45:57
[SPEAKER_00]: What?
45:58
[SPEAKER_00]: A.A. can hallucinate.
46:00
[SPEAKER_00]: It can make up things.
46:01
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
46:01
[SPEAKER_00]: Tell you that they are true.
46:03
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
46:03
[SPEAKER_02]: I've kind of heard this then.
46:04
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
46:05
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought she felt like it's on screws or something.
46:07
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what it's on, but it'll tell you some crazy stuff.
46:10
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
46:11
[SPEAKER_02]: So it'll make up data.
46:12
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just to make you happy.
46:13
[SPEAKER_02]: Right?
46:13
[SPEAKER_00]: Not necessarily even make you happy.
46:15
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just what it believes.
46:17
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
46:18
[SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, that's a flaw.
46:21
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah, I can show bias, it's that's I've heard this.
46:27
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, um, but are these bugs that can be fixed or you say, and I'm trusted.
46:32
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, what I'm saying is if they're using these data centers for
46:36
[SPEAKER_00]: fault the AI then we need to slow down okay and that's basically what I'm driving at anyway we need to slow down on this data on this data center thing because again it's on speculative there you know they're saying I will take over the world and it
46:54
[SPEAKER_00]: probably will at some point and I'm not talking about an terminator sort of way, but we'll be so dependent on it, right?
47:02
[SPEAKER_00]: That's like it's making our decisions for us, basically.
47:05
[SPEAKER_00]: So now all the kids that grow up not getting good education and not knowing anything will know less, because I'll do everything for them, right?
47:13
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
47:14
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's one of my stick and points with a, I'm not a huge fan of it.
47:19
[SPEAKER_00]: It's helpful when it needs to be
47:24
[SPEAKER_00]: People who let AI do everything for them, I don't agree with that.
47:29
[SPEAKER_02]: So, do you think the Georgia General Assembly has some part to play in that then?
47:36
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, if you were elected, would you be a, it sounds like you would be a fan of like then putting up a moratorium on data centers until we get, figure some things out, right?
47:45
[SPEAKER_00]: Not a doubt.
47:46
[SPEAKER_00]: Without a doubt, I think the technology needs to be vetted, I mean, there's just a lot of
47:55
[SPEAKER_00]: Like I said, it's a speculative industry, you know, if they can't put these pieces into place and these data centers, once they're built, then the bubble will borrow us because you can't use the data center.
48:09
[SPEAKER_00]: So let's make sure everything all the pieces are in place before we start.
48:14
[SPEAKER_00]: tearing up communities and creating unnecessary loads on infrastructure and, you know, power, water, all those sorts of things.
48:23
[SPEAKER_00]: And another thing about data centers is once they're built and once they're set up, how many jobs do you think?
48:29
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, I've seen the numbers.
48:30
[SPEAKER_02]: It depends, but it's not a lot.
48:32
[SPEAKER_00]: It's mostly maintenance people.
48:33
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, there's, yeah, let's say a large data center might employ a hundred to 200 folks, jobs ranging from, you know, 80,000 yearly salary for a person with no, no, no college diploma.
48:50
[SPEAKER_00]: No, that's, those are some really good numbers.
48:52
[SPEAKER_00]: That's, uh, thanks.
48:59
[SPEAKER_00]: And the thing about that is, is you get these data centers built and suddenly you can't use them because the pieces aren't placed aren't in place and why happens to those jobs.
49:09
[SPEAKER_00]: Those people that were counting on those jobs.
49:11
[SPEAKER_00]: Suddenly you've got money allocated for these data centers and for all these jobs and stuff, but they're not there.
49:18
[SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm.
49:22
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I don't know miss.
49:24
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a messy messy middle topic for sure.
49:26
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it is and it's it's honestly I knew it was coming up I knew you were gonna you were gonna jump on me with that one, but uh Every day we get an IT got running for office I was assuming you'd be all four data centers and well
49:40
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm against them just in the right place or like some of those maybe kind of thing right maybe they build their own infrastructure They have to add dollars to the infrastructure to the grid right like they're going to take a massive amount of power Then they need to be able to pony up the money up front maybe to pay for the taxpayers don't need to pay for I'm not a hard stance there.
49:58
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah taxpayers do not need to pay for private enterprise
50:02
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, now they're I probably write an alignment with you on any shape form or fashion.
50:07
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean look at look at the the new stadium Mercedes being stadium in Atlanta Yeah, you know taxpayers had to get involved in that.
50:13
[SPEAKER_00]: Why Everybody uses that stadium is a big company or a large private enterprise They should pay for their own place of business
50:22
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, when you're strong, like, when you get to fill yourself up a point, you are there, like you said, your convictions, almost ten of my convictions.
50:29
[SPEAKER_02]: I am, because I might would argue the economic development, you know, benefit, there's got to things, but you're like, no, man, conviction, my conviction says, well, taxpayers shouldn't have to be part of the lack that if the enterprises need it, and the enterprises successful, it will be able to support itself, and all the other stuff will follow.
50:49
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I hear you a strong opinion.
50:51
[SPEAKER_02]: I like it.
50:52
[SPEAKER_02]: I like that you're solid on it.
50:54
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I mean, it may not get me elected, but again, I'm going to stand on my convictions.
50:59
[SPEAKER_02]: There you go.
51:01
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I mean, who knows?
51:02
[SPEAKER_02]: District 13, like you're saying, hasn't seen a candidate like you in a long time, right?
51:08
[SPEAKER_02]: This has been a long time since I've seen somebody who's dispassionated about their convictions, particularly on this conservative, you know, type platform.
51:18
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm not saying that the predecessor there was wildly liberal.
51:23
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know that that was the case at all, probably a moderate Democrat, if I'm not mistaken, if I remember correctly.
51:29
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I mean, you do realize her seat was vacant.
51:32
[SPEAKER_02]: No.
51:33
[SPEAKER_00]: And do you know why that seat was vacant?
51:35
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you can say whatever you want to about it.
51:37
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
51:37
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I mean, I do know why I was vacant, but let me enlighten those of you who are watching this.
51:42
[SPEAKER_00]: Perfect.
51:48
[SPEAKER_00]: uh C C Drew unemployment money and said it was due to COVID and she couldn't substantiate any of that and she fraudulent look took almost $20,000 of taxpayer money along with a couple of other people.
52:09
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I don't know the outcome of that is it.
52:10
[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, I was going to get it out.
52:12
[SPEAKER_02]: So the thing is I don't know if it's an indictment or if she's been convicted, I don't know.
52:16
[SPEAKER_02]: I would I would just want to make sure we got the facts right as a whole.
52:18
[SPEAKER_02]: Fun fact, he played guilty.
52:20
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, okay.
52:22
[SPEAKER_00]: But before that happened, the government, the governor of Georgia suspended that office suspended her from that office and that position.
52:33
[SPEAKER_00]: And she couldn't, she couldn't run again as an incumbent in that position.
52:37
[SPEAKER_00]: So she ran for Senate in District 42, 43, or yeah, 43, I think it's 43.
52:44
[SPEAKER_00]: I believe you're right, and um, how does that even happen?
52:48
[SPEAKER_00]: I had to admit to me that goes more towards the, the fraud and the, and the graph.
52:55
[SPEAKER_00]: And I just, I don't understand how you can be under indictment for something like that.
53:01
[SPEAKER_00]: be suspended from your office and while this is still going on, you're running for an even higher seat.
53:10
[SPEAKER_00]: That shouldn't be allowed until all of that stuff is resolved.
53:13
[SPEAKER_00]: If it's resolved positively, then yeah, more power too, you run for that seat.
53:19
[SPEAKER_00]: But if it's proven that the Crown was committed, then you shouldn't ever be allowed to run again.
53:27
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
53:29
[SPEAKER_02]: I do want to remind everyone that indictment does not mean guilty.
53:32
[SPEAKER_02]: However, you said she pledged.
53:33
[SPEAKER_02]: You pledged guilty.
53:34
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
53:34
[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
53:35
[SPEAKER_02]: So, I know.
53:36
[SPEAKER_00]: And indictment is just an accusation.
53:38
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
53:38
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
53:40
[SPEAKER_00]: An indictment is just an accusation.
53:42
[SPEAKER_00]: Just like an impeachment.
53:43
[SPEAKER_00]: That's just an accusation.
53:44
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
53:45
[SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't mean anything.
53:46
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
53:47
[SPEAKER_02]: But it means people are looking into it.
53:48
[SPEAKER_02]: That's the way of that.
53:50
[SPEAKER_02]: That it does mean.
53:51
[SPEAKER_02]: So, so you're saying one 13 needs a conservative perspective.
53:58
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, what about your competitor, uh, season nice, nice person I've met her had her on the show.
54:03
[SPEAKER_02]: She's great.
54:04
[SPEAKER_00]: She is nice.
54:05
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not a good conservative.
54:07
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, maybe just different philosophical perspective.
54:10
[SPEAKER_02]: So give me a difference.
54:12
[SPEAKER_02]: Give me the difference.
54:12
[SPEAKER_02]: If if voters are trying to make a decision, they're like, hey, both of these seem conservative obviously from different parties.
54:18
[SPEAKER_02]: What, what is the reason they pick Don Scarborough?
54:23
[SPEAKER_02]: I wouldn't come for conservative.
54:25
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, well, but she is a nice person.
54:27
[SPEAKER_00]: And I would sit here and have a conversation with her all day, because she and I can actually have a conversation without biting each other's heads off.
54:36
[SPEAKER_00]: That's great, by the way.
54:37
[SPEAKER_00]: And I appreciate that, but, you know, there are some things.
54:45
[SPEAKER_00]: She's in support of some government subsidies and things like that that I don't agree with.
54:50
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not a fan of a lot of government subsidies.
54:53
[SPEAKER_00]: And I believe in helping people as they need help, but the fraud and waste and things like Medicare and Medicaid and just, you know, there is just, it's rampant and it's killing the, the working class, the middle class, people like me.
55:09
[SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm.
55:10
[SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm.
55:13
[SPEAKER_00]: So I think those kinds of things, they need to have a long hard look and when you figure out where this waste is going, where this fraud is going and like we had a little forum.
55:33
[SPEAKER_00]: a few months ago and she was talking about expanding.
55:36
[SPEAKER_00]: I believe it was Medicaid.
55:39
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm not for that.
55:42
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm forgetting rid of the graft in Medicaid.
55:46
[SPEAKER_00]: And see where we stand once we do that.
55:48
[SPEAKER_00]: Once we get that cleaned up, then we can take a look at expanding it because once we get the graft cleaned up, then there's going to be more money there.
55:57
[SPEAKER_00]: And we may not need to expand it.
56:00
[SPEAKER_02]: So I know that's been an issue in Georgia for years to do talking about expanding Medicaid, a Medicare, which you're for one.
56:09
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I do get it, I get it, I get it, I get it, I get it mixed up all the time.
56:13
[SPEAKER_02]: But because the state of Georgia has a different plan, I guess it's slightly different, that uses state funds, I guess, to help those in need, who need that service that help.
56:26
[SPEAKER_02]: So you're just saying, definitely no expansion of Medicaid, Medicare, until deep, deep dive is done, clean up whatever is, because we know it exists, I mean, I know for a fact it exists.
56:41
[SPEAKER_00]: My wife deals with Medicaid and Medicare billing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, really?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I can tell you all the time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I can tell you some stories.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not going to because that may be a violation.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Understand, so I'm not going to tell any stories, but let's just say there are things out there, bills in the millions of dollars that it should never have been generated.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I know other states are being investigated right now, Minnesota, I think comes to mind.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're really being investigated for a lot of that fraud.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's, it's not easy, I guess, to just eradicate the fraud and I'm not saying we just need to have a, when you need to be okay with it, I'm not saying that, but I know it's got, it's just a process, probably to go in there and really sift through it on figure it out, but a necessary process, which is a necessary absolutely necessary and and to that point, I think there should be.
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[SPEAKER_00]: some sort of those like entity at every level of government to dig into these things and possibly even stop them before they happen.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, some sort of mandatory audits and type things everywhere.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that information once it is audited should be available to the people who have to pay the taxes to pay for.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I've without saying the word because maybe it's a buzzword, but you've been very a staunch supporter of transparency, it sounds like transparency and accountability.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That is, yes, that's my number one goal here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Accountability is my number one goal here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right, so if, because you're, because we're regular Joe's paying our taxes, we just want to know where the heck's it going.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Show me the paper trail.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I want to, I'll, I'll be fine.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm, I'm saying, this is, I think what you're seeing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think I'd be fine with some of the services, as long as I know money's going towards those services and not being diverted to other things that we don't really know about.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, under the table deals getting put in back people's pockets and, you know, just paying for stuff that was never authorized, um, that just like the discretionary funds that that the Department of Education and Georgia used to have, I'm going to tell me more.
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[SPEAKER_00]: what are the discretionary funds the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to quit trying to think of it and just tell you okay there was an individual working for the Board of Education who had access to this discretionary fund and that person was making a set salary but decided they needed a raise and I think they were paying themselves tens of thousand dollars out of the discretionary fund at the state level for a raise okay yeah that should not happen
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm in favor of that, and I have to get there right.
1:00:06
[SPEAKER_00]: And these are the things that I'm talking about.
1:00:07
[SPEAKER_00]: These are the things that I want to put a stop to.
1:00:09
[SPEAKER_00]: These are the things that I want to shine some light on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So the people can say, oh, I don't care that he's a Republican.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't care that he's conservative or a liberal or anything else.
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[SPEAKER_00]: These people are cheating us and he's trying to stop it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's where I'm at.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't care.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If somebody, whatever their stance is, but working class people don't want to be cheated.
1:00:36
[SPEAKER_00]: It's hard enough these days as it is with inflation and taxes and it's hard enough.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I just, I want to share some light on that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So people can say, have the opportunity to say, no, we're not doing this.
1:00:54
[SPEAKER_02]: And I, and you think you'll get support at the ballot box for this, right?
1:01:00
[SPEAKER_02]: I think people really are.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I really do.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So you're the flashlight candidate.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You want to go in there and go, look, look, look over there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Look at that, look at that, look at that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's look at it all.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and it just like, I know that's what I want to do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now I can't promise.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I can only promise to try, and that's the only thing I can do is I can, I can promise to try to make these things happen, try to drive towards these results if I get in office in my first term.
1:01:30
[SPEAKER_00]: If I told you, if I promised you that I was absolutely going to do these things, I wouldn't be genuine.
1:01:35
[SPEAKER_00]: Because there's no way I can promise that, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'd just be pandering for votes, and I'm not trying to do that.
1:01:41
[SPEAKER_00]: I want people to know who I am, how I feel about these things, and,
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[SPEAKER_00]: help me to get in there to try to help them, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right, well, let's, let's, let's, let's close with this.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I want people to know where they can, because I know this, it costs money to run campaigns, and like people, if they only know, especially with the, there's not a really big paycheck because with it either so, um, but,
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[SPEAKER_02]: If people want to get in contact with you, if they wanted to help out with the campaign, if they just wanted to read more about your stance on these things, I think we've heard enough today to know where your values are, where your convictions are, strong conservative, my goodness, constitution, give me accountability and transparency.
1:02:25
[SPEAKER_02]: Those are all great things.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If somebody wanted to know more, where would they go?
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's kind of a weird spelling, but they can go to my website.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's www.cAARIGA.
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[SPEAKER_00]: it's korega.com and that stands for coalition for accountability and responsibility in Georgia.
1:02:46
[SPEAKER_02]: So korega.com and we'll have it in the show notes for people who can just usually click it.
1:02:50
[SPEAKER_02]: So korega.com and you have information there and there's information there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You can donate there, please.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's been a tough man, tell me about it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Fundraising, what will the members do that?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you can email me and I may not.
1:03:08
[SPEAKER_00]: It might take me a day or two to get back to you, but I will reply and it will be me replying.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you don't have our people doing this stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to know what people think.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to rate it myself.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What's your email address?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm a pretty good reader too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm pretty fast.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's dawn underscore Scarborough at korega.com.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, Don and score Scarborough, and don't forget it's the R-B-R in the name is not B-O-R because it's because granddaddy's indiscretions with the law or whatever, that's right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Don and score Scarborough at korega.com.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right, man.
1:03:47
[SPEAKER_02]: We'll get all that stuff in the show.
1:03:49
[SPEAKER_02]: Can't wait for this to go live because I can't wait to hear the comments for people to get to know you better as it's hard to get to know you man's like it's hard to get to know our candidates.
1:03:57
[SPEAKER_02]: This is why one of the reasons we're doing these candidate conversations.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So people can see the real down Scarborough get to hear what you believe in here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Your convictions right in there there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm very opinionated about this stuff.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, man, thank you so much for making some time today, and to come to the show, we appreciate it.
1:04:14
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, thank you for having me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I appreciate you letting me get my voice out there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Good luck.