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The Eds: unEDited with John Fuda · Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge

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  Speaker 1: This is The EDS with Eddie Judge and Edwin Aroyave
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  Speaker 1: the husband's know best at two Cheese Production. All right, guys,
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  Speaker 1: welcome to another podcast of The EDS here with my
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  Speaker 1: co host Edwin, and we are going to interview John Fuda.
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  Speaker 1: John Fuda is married to the Real Housewives of New
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  Speaker 1: Jersey cast member Rachel Fuda. John is a husband, father,
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  Speaker 1: and business owner in New Jersey. And today we get
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  Speaker 1: to know more about John off Reality TV. Really excited
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  Speaker 1: about that. They do have three kids, Jayden, Gianella and Juliana.
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  Speaker 1: Did I say those right?
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  Speaker 2: Yes? You did?
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  Speaker 1: Okay, And here's a surprise. They're expecting a fourth. We're
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  Speaker 1: super excited for you, man, that's so cool. John and
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  Speaker 1: Rachel joined the Housewives in twenty twenty three, so we're
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  Speaker 1: excited to get the perspective from a newer house husband.
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  Speaker 1: Well it's still fresh, you know. Welcome John Fuda.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, you know what, thank you guys for having me.
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  Speaker 2: Happy to be a part of the Edge show. Let's
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  Speaker 2: do it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, congratulations John on the fourth kid, and welcome to
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  Speaker 3: the club. I got four. Four is a good number.
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  Speaker 2: By the way, what changes anything.
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  Speaker 3: Well, you know, the thing that changes the most I
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  Speaker 3: think for the fourth one, you're not as like you
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  Speaker 3: tend to leave the fourth one behind a little longer
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  Speaker 3: than you did your first one, right and your second
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  Speaker 3: one and your third one, because you're like, all right,
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  Speaker 3: this one's going to be on. We called mine. She
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  Speaker 3: got red shirted for like the first year because you know,
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  Speaker 3: she's just we couldn't take her anywhere whereas our first one.
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  Speaker 3: I mean we were taking her to dinner at nine pm.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 3: The fourth one, it's like, oh, you're staying behind. You're
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  Speaker 3: staying behind. And I don't think we started taking her
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  Speaker 3: out there. She was like eighteen months, so she was
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  Speaker 3: a true, true COVID baby.
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  Speaker 2: Wow, so different because I have you know, with having
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  Speaker 2: my son, Jaden's going to be eighteen, right, I have
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  Speaker 2: an eighteen year old, a four year old, a two
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  Speaker 2: and a half ye old, and about to have a newborn.
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  Speaker 2: It's just different. Like I was looking at colleges yesterday
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  Speaker 2: with them. We took them to look at some colleges
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  Speaker 2: and it's just like, wow, it's a reality check for sure.
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  Speaker 2: I have two different age groups going on here.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you definitely hit the reset button. And so John
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  Speaker 3: tell us about so before Housewives. What was your childhood like.
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  Speaker 2: My childhood?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so you grew up in Jersey, right, how was that, John?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so I grew up in Jersey. Family business Italians.
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  Speaker 2: We're in the tile industry. I started I was laying tile,
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  Speaker 2: my family selling tile.
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  Speaker 1: Uh.
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  Speaker 2: Then I got into the parking industry and to my
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  Speaker 2: business and then just kind of grinded. Man, wanted to
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  Speaker 2: build a family. I found the perfect you know, found
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  Speaker 2: the perfect girl for me, started building the family, and
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  Speaker 2: also she accepted my son, which is not that easy, right,
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  Speaker 2: but she took him on her own. That was a
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  Speaker 2: big thing. And you know, from there we had our
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  Speaker 2: kids and started building our lifestyle. Man. Then all of
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  Speaker 2: a sudden, the Jersey Housewives came in my life.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so tell us about your siblings. Do you have
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  Speaker 1: any siblings?
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  Speaker 2: I do. I have one brother, one brother.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, what was it like growing up with a brother
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  Speaker 1: in Jersey?
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  Speaker 2: I have one step brother and maybe a couple of
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  Speaker 2: those that I don't know about yet.
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  Speaker 1: But so you had a big family growing up typical Italian?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, typical time. One immediate brother. I do have
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  Speaker 2: a step brother. And then, like I said, but we're
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  Speaker 2: not that close to him.
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  Speaker 1: So, oh, okay, okay.
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  Speaker 3: So you grew up John, So you grew up selling
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  Speaker 3: tile Teresa says you were selling some other stuff. She
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  Speaker 3: was claiming you were the biggest drug dealer at one
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  Speaker 3: point in Brigan County or something like that.
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  Speaker 2: Listen, this comment is so crazy, right because when you
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  Speaker 2: take like a larger drug dealer, right, you look up
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  Speaker 2: articles and you see teasers of truckloads, allots of cocaine
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  Speaker 2: and marijuana. I'm like, how could you even say that? Right,
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  Speaker 2: I got arrested. I think I had eleven or twelve
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  Speaker 2: grams on me at the time of marijuana, which is
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  Speaker 2: now we go, by the way, And one of the
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  Speaker 2: coolest things that came out of that comment is how
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  Speaker 2: many people offer me a partnership and marijuana license. Now, So,
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  Speaker 2: I had no idea when I was a juvenile I
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  Speaker 2: got in trouble. But I have first right to marijuana
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  Speaker 2: licenses in the state of New Jersey because I got
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  Speaker 2: in trouble when I was younger. I have first right
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  Speaker 2: to any licenses here in New Jersey.
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  Speaker 3: Wow, So did you take up any of those potential partnerships.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't because I was afraid to after that comment
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  Speaker 2: and who knows what would it came next, you know, So.
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  Speaker 1: That's a valid comment, that's a totally valid When we
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  Speaker 1: got into the cannabis business, we had an opportunity to
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  Speaker 1: get into the marijuana side, the medical marijuana side, and
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  Speaker 1: it was right before the Farm Bill was passing twenty
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  Speaker 1: eighteen for CBD and talking to some of the potential
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  Speaker 1: partners that we were talking about, you know, getting into
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  Speaker 1: business with, you know, they mentioned, you know, there's a
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  Speaker 1: little side effect here that you might need to watch out.
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  Speaker 1: You know, we are going into competition with the cartels,
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  Speaker 1: so it's a little dangerous. You know. It's not like
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  Speaker 1: you're not just dealing with the Feds. You're dealing with
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  Speaker 1: the cartels. And if you ever you know, if you
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  Speaker 1: ever watch those movies, they don't take it lightly. So wait,
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  Speaker 1: we chickened out.
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  Speaker 2: That comment made it seem like I was the cartel, Right,
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  Speaker 2: it's like you're the largest I'm like, whoa relaxed there,
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  Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like, that's that's ridiculous.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, And you know what we're gonna We're gonna get
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  Speaker 1: into how that all transpires. Because in my experience, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I've been on the show for many years. The women
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  Speaker 1: will do anything to hurt the other women on the show,
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  Speaker 1: and if they can't get to those women, they will
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  Speaker 1: attack their family, including the kids and husband, right. And
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  Speaker 1: I think that's just low blow, trashy way of conducting themselves, honestly.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, the husband's okay, you know, they're fair game
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  Speaker 1: because they are on TV, but kids should be off
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  Speaker 1: limits completely. So I've been accused of many things, but
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  Speaker 1: the reality is, John, that's all they can come up with.
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  Speaker 1: You know, it's that bad, right, you know. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: we're not stealing money from people. We're not going to
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  Speaker 1: jail for a year. You know, we're not you know,
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  Speaker 1: we're not the real criminals here. So it just blows
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  Speaker 1: my mind how these people deflect and come up with
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  Speaker 1: bullshit about their husbands when they can, you know, attack
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  Speaker 1: the wife anymore. And I assume that's kind of what
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  Speaker 1: happened with you.
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  Speaker 2: Right they I think with me, you know, I got
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  Speaker 2: a scarlet letter, I call it. I think there was
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  Speaker 2: a purpose intention to scar me. And I think that
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  Speaker 2: you have this platform where people follow and listen to you,
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  Speaker 2: and you use it to your advantage to hurt somebody. Well,
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  Speaker 2: I mean you've been on the show for how long now.
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  Speaker 1: Gosh, I think something like twelve years.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe you've got some time served.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, served my time, man. And I'm at the
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  Speaker 1: point where I don't care because the reality is, John,
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  Speaker 1: I don't have those kind of skeletons in my closet.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not perfect, you know. I've done some stupid shit
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  Speaker 1: in my life, but I've never robbed anybody. I've never
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  Speaker 1: been investigated by the FBI or even gone to jail.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I am not a crook. And for these
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  Speaker 1: people to come after us, men who have legitimate business,
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  Speaker 1: you know, just want to support our wives on the
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  Speaker 1: show and claim all these you know, stupid allegations when
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  Speaker 1: they themselves are exactly what they're claiming to be right
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  Speaker 1: or not to be. It just it just irks me,
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  Speaker 1: and it questions the whole why are we on this
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  Speaker 1: reality TV show?
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  Speaker 2: Right?
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  Speaker 1: But before we go that far, let's go back to
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  Speaker 1: the beginning. John. I want to know, I want to
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  Speaker 1: know your story on how you were cast for The
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  Speaker 1: Real Housewives in New Jersey and did you have any
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  Speaker 1: any knowledge of the show before you were a cast member?
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  Speaker 2: Of course, well, I definitely had knowledge, right, So Joe
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  Speaker 2: bought tyle for me for the show. I knew of
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  Speaker 2: the show. Actually, one of my mom's friends is one
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  Speaker 2: of Teresa's bankruptcy attorneys who helped take the time, So
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  Speaker 2: there's a lot of connection to the show. But frank
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  Speaker 2: was a friend of ours. Brittany, his future wife was
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  Speaker 2: a friend of my wife. Of course we knew about
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  Speaker 2: the show. Was not really something I geared towards being on,
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  Speaker 2: to be honest with you, we moved up to Franklin Lake's.
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  Speaker 2: There was jokes from people like I gotta be on
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  Speaker 2: that show. I'm like, yeah, okay, let me the hell alone,
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  Speaker 2: you know. And you know, one day, I guess they
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  Speaker 2: reached out to my wife on Instagram, and you know, look,
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  Speaker 2: I think at that point, my wife was pregnant. She
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  Speaker 2: was home all day. You know, Rachel's trying to like
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  Speaker 2: she really wants to do her own thing and kind
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  Speaker 2: of have her own thing, right. So as a supportive husband,
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  Speaker 2: my god, I'm always gonna support my wife. So I
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  Speaker 2: stupid least like, yeah, whatever you want, go ahead and apply,
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  Speaker 2: you know, like to see what they say. I just
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  Speaker 2: didn't think it would go anywhere. And I remember, because
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  Speaker 2: I was eating the bowl of cereal. You know, I
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  Speaker 2: was eating the boat cinnamon the cereal, right, and I'm like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: go ahead and see what they say. This is kind
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  Speaker 2: of like grubbing it off growing up here, I am,
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  Speaker 2: you know what I mean. But we knew about it.
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  Speaker 2: We went to the whole process. I think we were
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  Speaker 2: a perfect fit because I think New Jersey is probably
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  Speaker 2: one of the hardest shows to cast for. So I
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  Speaker 2: guess we were a perfect fit from when I was
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  Speaker 2: told and then we embarked in our inventure. Man, you know,
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  Speaker 2: the first year. To be honest, a lot of people
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  Speaker 2: don't realize that Louie used to reach out to me
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  Speaker 2: at the beginning. I used to talk to everybody, including Louis.
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  Speaker 2: We would have phone calls about economies and business and
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  Speaker 2: things like that, and we would just talk like normal,
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  Speaker 2: you know. And I was buddies were Joey still because
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  Speaker 2: our kids.
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  Speaker 1: And this was before the show.
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  Speaker 2: This was the first year on the show. Season for the.
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  Speaker 1: First year on the show. Okay, so you guys were buddies.
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  Speaker 2: And I was friends with Gorgo's before the show because
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  Speaker 2: the kids hunt up. Yeah, so the kids did hang out.
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  Speaker 2: We were friends. Oh did give me a warning. He
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  Speaker 2: tried to give me a warning, but it was very,
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  Speaker 2: very filtered by the way there was a lot of
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  Speaker 2: mask on his warning. I wish it was a little
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  Speaker 2: bit more clear, but yeah, no, we did it. And
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  Speaker 2: I used to talk to everybody in the beginning and
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  Speaker 2: then towards the end of season thirteen and obviously that's
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  Speaker 2: when it really parted ways.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's funny you say that. I've only had
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  Speaker 1: a couple of husbands come up to me before they
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  Speaker 1: joined the cast. And there's just one thing I always
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  Speaker 1: reiterate to every single a one, and don't get involved
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  Speaker 1: in the drama, and definitely don't go head to head
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  Speaker 1: with the housewives because we have no control even though
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  Speaker 1: we're right, even though we are innocent, we don't have
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  Speaker 1: any control over the edit, so they're always going to
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  Speaker 1: edit it so the housewife looks great and the guys
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  Speaker 1: are never gonna look good. So I know that you've
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  Speaker 1: been involved and you went to head to head with Teresa,
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  Speaker 1: and I understand she was making these false allegations and
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  Speaker 1: all that. I can't imagine having to deal with something
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  Speaker 1: like that, But that's always been my my take on this,
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  Speaker 1: like just stay out of it. Let them talk, let
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  Speaker 1: them come up with some bullshit and let's it's illegal
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  Speaker 1: and damaging, you know, not true, Let them talk out
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  Speaker 1: of their ass, right.
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  Speaker 2: Well that listen, when I I did not want to
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  Speaker 2: really get involved, to be honest, right, but I kind
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  Speaker 2: of have no choice but to get involved the way
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  Speaker 2: I felt. First off, I have Jen aiding alluding to
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  Speaker 2: the fact that I use sex toys and whatnot. Then
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  Speaker 2: I have her alluding to the fact that I sell drugs.
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  Speaker 2: So it's like, listen, you're really coming after my manhood, right,
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  Speaker 2: Like you're really trying to piss me off. Now, couldn't
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  Speaker 2: just let me be made a couple of times, call
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  Speaker 2: me ugly, call me whatever. I laugh about it, right, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: but you know, once you did that, I'm going to
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  Speaker 2: defend myself like any normal person would. And I just
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  Speaker 2: suspended myself. And I you know, I think one of
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  Speaker 2: the reasons why I handled it so well, and I
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  Speaker 2: think the reason it went in my direction is because
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  Speaker 2: I was honest with everybody. I'm just right out. This
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  Speaker 2: is what you see is what you get with me?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, no, I mean obviously you had no nothing
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  Speaker 1: to hide or defend. Right, It's not like any of
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  Speaker 1: that was true anyways. So it's easy to defend that,
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  Speaker 1: but it's it's harder when you're actually under investigation or
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  Speaker 1: you actually went to jail to say.
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  Speaker 2: Innocent, right, right, right, because you know you've got that
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  Speaker 2: in your background. Yeah, it's not that easy. You know,
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  Speaker 2: you brought up a really good point about the way
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  Speaker 2: we are edited as men, right because a lot of
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  Speaker 2: we don't. There's no control over to yet it right.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of people don't realize that. You know, you
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  Speaker 2: film a lot and some of it makes the cut
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  Speaker 2: and some of it doesn't, but you don't have any
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  Speaker 2: control of where they start and stop things. But you know,
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  Speaker 2: I feel like I've gotten I've had some good edits.
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  Speaker 2: To be honest with you, I think a lot of
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  Speaker 2: the truth was told and what I was doing, and
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  Speaker 2: I'm kind of happy for that. I can't really complain
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  Speaker 2: too much, but I get how a lot of feel
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  Speaker 2: like they didn't get a good.
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  Speaker 1: Adic right right on. One. Another thing that I want
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  Speaker 1: to mention about that is the biggest lesson I learned
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  Speaker 1: about being on a reality TV show is that the
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  Speaker 1: camera is very transparent. You can try unless you're a
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  Speaker 1: really good a list professional actor, the camera, we'll see
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  Speaker 1: right through you. And there's a lot of characters on
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  Speaker 1: the show that I didn't know before the show, but
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  Speaker 1: filming with them and then watching them on TV, I'm like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that guy's a scumbag.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't see it coming, But now that I see
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  Speaker 1: it on TV, I'm like, yeah, it makes sense now.
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  Speaker 1: And then if you're at all interested, you just google
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  Speaker 1: their name. You're like, yeah, scumbag, you know. So the
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  Speaker 1: reality is is if you have nothing to defend, then
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  Speaker 1: you're then you just have to clear up your name.
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  Speaker 1: And that's all you did, right You Just Hey, I'm
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  Speaker 1: not here to fight with you. I'm just here to
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  Speaker 1: say this is who I really am.
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  Speaker 2: So right, Like, I don't sell drugs. I didn't make
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  Speaker 2: my living on selling drugs. I have nothing to hide,
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  Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Yeah, it was easy for
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  Speaker 2: me to do.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I couldn't help.
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  Speaker 3: But hear the sex toys? What was that all about?
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  Speaker 2: You got accuse me? I don't even understand how that
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  Speaker 2: came out? What's that deal? Bro? Allegedly there's this thread
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  Speaker 2: I like purple dildos that was like this this thread
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  Speaker 2: that came out from my ex. You know, first off,
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  Speaker 2: anyone who has an ex most likely didn't end off
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  Speaker 2: in well terms. Like there's not a lot of exes
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  Speaker 2: that talk well about each other right now, especially when
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  Speaker 2: you get full stole custody of a kid. You're not.
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  Speaker 2: It's not like, oh yeah, he's amazing, he's a wonderful
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  Speaker 2: guy that no custody of the kid. She hates my guts.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. So is it is it true or a rumor
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  Speaker 1: that she is actually incarcerated?
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  Speaker 2: She she was incarcerator. I believe she was recently let out.
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  Speaker 2: Oh okay, yeah, she recently got out. She was incarcerated.
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  Speaker 2: You know, she made some tough choices that got her
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  Speaker 2: to where she was in life. Yeah, she was a
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  Speaker 2: beautiful girl when I'm better man, she really it was
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  Speaker 2: a beautiful girl. But just unfortunately life gives you decisions
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  Speaker 2: to make and she made some bad ones and I
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  Speaker 2: had to make different decisions at that time to protect
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  Speaker 2: you know, the child we had, and I did the
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  Speaker 2: right thing.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. How long were you a single dad before you
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  Speaker 1: met Rachel oh Man?
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  Speaker 2: I was a single dad from I would say two
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  Speaker 2: thousand and seven to two thousand and fourteen, fifteen.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, Wow, that's a long time.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, man, listen, I enjoyed myself, you know, I definitely
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  Speaker 2: I had my son and I would go out and
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  Speaker 2: my mother helped me out a lot.
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  Speaker 1: Man.
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  Speaker 2: She would watch him when I go out at night,
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  Speaker 2: spend a whole day, hang out with my son a
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  Speaker 2: little bit, and then go go out at night. Do it.
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  Speaker 2: Do what young people do, right, and then wake up,
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  Speaker 2: go to work and see to see the kid before
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  Speaker 2: he goes to school. Go to work and do your thing.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that was a long time. Mine was only three weeks.
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  Speaker 2: Meeting Kenny three weeks after, but we we did.
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  Speaker 3: That just happened him like three weeks later. I thought
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: I was going to be single for like ten years
• 16:06
  Speaker 3: at least before, but in lasted three weeks.
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I had to listen. I didn't want to rush
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: into anything. I wanted to really enjoy and get, you know, experiment,
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: and I did. I took my time, and I really
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: knew what I wanted when I met my wife.
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: So what was one of the most challenging things being
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: a single dad?
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: Most challenging things I guess this. You know, he didn't
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: really have a mother to at a younger age to
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: kind of learn some of those qualities that would be
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: the most because Rachel really when she met him, there
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: was a lot of work that had to be done
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: with therapists and stuff, and we really had to get
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: him some of those qualities to where he needed to be.
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: As far as me as a man, by far, I
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: loved it. I would go out, I have my son,
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: I had everything I need to hung out with this one.
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: I hung out with that one and never introduced anybody
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: to my son.
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: I was like, this is gonna add Did you ever
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: like use them as bait?
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: Na?
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: No? Never as much as easy as it could have been. Right,
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: this is a puffy dog is a little easier because
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: there's no feelings for a puppy.
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: But that's hilarious, awesome.
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: Hey, by the way, John, so obviously you your family business, right,
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: Uh it was just food a tile, So you you
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: were selling towels for a long time, and it's obviously
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: you your family has had that for a long time.
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: And then you've had your ballet business.
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: Right. Uh.
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: Before the show came on, were you were you concerned
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: at all that it was going to affect your family
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: business and your own business at all? The data ever
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: crossed your mind.
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, So it crossed my mind a lot, right,
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: So at first I thought it would affect it. Then
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: I said, hey, it's gonna help because a lot of
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: people in the future field that I might relate and
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: you know, might want to connect with it. Of course,
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: to the comment of being a drug deal to not
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: help my case at all, but that's anything and amplified
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: it and made it harder. But at this point, you know,
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: we're operating, we're seeing it through. We had a little
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: bit of a hit during that time, and we're able
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: to recover a lot because we do do a great
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: service of what we do, and we got back on
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: our feet.
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: So tell us about how you started your company. How
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: did that come about? You're working with the family and
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: a What did you learn most about who was your
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: mentor in the food A taw And then how did
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: you decide to branch off and do your own thing
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: and start your ballet company which is a very successful
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: company out there.
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: So I learned obviously from my family. I had my
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: uncle Frank, I had my grandfather. When I was younger,
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: I lived in Florida for a little bit with my father.
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: I learned construction at that point but I learned how
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: to really install tile build construct at a very young age.
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: I liked it wasn't bad, but there was a lot
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: of competition in the space. It really was, and I
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: was young, so it'd be hard to get jobs. People
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: didn't trust giving you the money. So in twenty thirteen,
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: I said to myself, I got to do something different.
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: So many hands in this family business, I don't see
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: where this is going to go. So I started working,
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: like doing valet at night because there was hot chicks
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: that would go into the restaurants. You get to drive
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: nice cars. I'm like, this is great. You know, you
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: can make a couple of bucks before you know what
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: I had. You know, I had a few accounts that
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: I was running in the restaurant business, and that was
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: what you know is standard valet. Obviously, you know a
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: lot of people are like, ohways in the valet business.
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: They think that's what I do for a living. That
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: is only like the restaurant aspect of it, which eventually
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: you grow out. Now I service car dealerships, we do hospitals,
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: we do residential buildings, and we service not only valet attendants,
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: but we service concierge concierge, janitorial, So we do so
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: many more aspects than just a valet and now you
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: know we're a nice buy's company.
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: Well what would you tell someone that maybe as young
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: as their own ballet business, but right now it's just restaurants?
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: What made you? What did it click for you? Like
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: a minute, I could make this a lot bigger and
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: I could branch off and do way bigger things. What
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: was a catalyst moment for you?
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: So I actually I do tell people. I still get
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: people that ask me, no matter what business I'm in,
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: because I'm in a few different always wait three years.
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: Everybody gets in business, they jump in, they don't make
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: money in a year, and they want to get out,
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: they want to abandon shit. The first year is the
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: hardest year. The second year you start to you know,
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: you build it to where you need it. In the
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: third year usually you see the reward. So I always say,
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: if you're going to do something, give it three years.
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: So if I had to advise anybody on a business
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: and what they were getting into, I would definitely say
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: research it, get your technology in order, learn all your
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: local labor laws, because my business have a ton of
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: laws regarding employment. Learn all those laws and just wait
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: three years. Man, don't give up till three years is done.
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: I like good advice.
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the number three, the number three.
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: What's the toughest part of what you do?
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: You think the toughest part about what I do is
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: dealing with personality. So I deal with the client, I
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: deal with the employee. Now there's a lot of labor
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: laws out there now that make the job a little harder.
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: And then you have to go to the client to
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: get more money. You know, obviously pay for more things
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: that they're offering as a law, and that's what makes
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: it harder for fund the equal balance to do.
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: So, by the way, is Jersey like Cali, where like
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: the other day I was driving on the freeway and
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: I kid you not, I took a two hour drive
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: and then I just started seeing billboards and all of
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: them are lawyers. Like it got my attention. I'm like, oh, shoot,
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: every billboard is a freaking lawyer like that.
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Jersey is just like that, but not as bad
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: as Calie. Cali has to be one of the worst
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: states to employ people in. It is. It is something else,
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: it really is. But I mean, look, that's just the
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: world we're living right, Guys like, look, yeah, a world.
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: I don't know. You both can remember five years ago,
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: just before COVID how different it was to what is now.
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: You know, just being in business is a whole different
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: ballgame right now. Yeah, there's so many people that are
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: going in business for themselves, you know, they're Grooper really
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: changed a lot in the game. But there's so many
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: I would say, migrants and people that are basically going
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: in business for themselves competing and they're not they're not
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: paying the right insurances, they're not doing things right, and
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: you're you're stuck competing against that.
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's the best. The bottom line is,
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: you know, I've learned throughout my business career there's always
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: going to be those that break the law and seem
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: to be getting away with it. You know, they might
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: advertise illegally and claim make claims that are not true
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: and get the business, get the customers, and ultimately they
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: fail because they don't deliver on their promise or what
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: they're selling. Right. So I always say, it's it's not
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: a matter of if, it's a matter of when they
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: get caught and their business is going to be under
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: And I noticed kind of a pattern as well with
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: those same people that do that kind of crap. They
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: start a business, they get their money, then they bankrupt it,
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: and then they go up and open up another business
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: and do the same shit it over and over and over,
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: and eventually it'll catch up to them, maybe, like the
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: FBI will catch up to them. But you know, it's
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: just it makes it hard for legitimate businesses to not
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: only you know, maintain the validity of the industry, like
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: the cannabis industry especially right now. Right we have a
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: lot of competition with a lot of fake products out
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: there that say, you know, this is cannabis, and then
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: it hurts the industry. Even though we're doing everything diligent,
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: providing quality ingredients and quality products, doing all the testing
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: and everything and giving the customer exactly what we say
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: is in our product, there's other companies out there that
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: are not providing any of that, and it hurts the
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: industry overall. So that irks me and I hate that,
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: But that's the reality of business in America, right, Yeah.
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: No, it really is. That you just spelled it out perfectly. Now,
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: there's always going to be guys around us in business
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: that are always looking to raise capital. I always that's
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: a red flag whenever I hear that, what do you
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: need money for it? And then all of a sudden
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: they're starting business to putting it into some other type
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: of their business and stealing the money that way. So
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: I always looked out for those people. And then you
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: get you know, if someone needed a loan or whatever
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: and you can't go to a bank, it's a huge
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: red flag. And I feel so bad for business people
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: that I talk to and people it's like, oh, I
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: loan money to this person to help them start a business,
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: and I haven't seen him return in two years and
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: they haven't shown me anything. What can I do? What
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: can you do? I mean, what what's mattered? Every quarter?
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: You should be looking for a statement. And if that
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: statement is not there, how did you guarantee to your loan.
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: There's so many things that I feel bad for that
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: I sit and I'm like, you loan money to who
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: for what? And I don't loan money to family. I
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: don't help. I don't know. I don't do that.
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: It's a giveaway for money for family. You you just
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: don't expect it back.
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: No, I don't. I don't do that. Yeah, You'll never
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: get it back.
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: Yeh, I never get it back.
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: Hey, John, tell us about glamorous studios and you what
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: made you want to partner up with Joe?
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: What made me want to partner with the Gorgas?
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: Uh?
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: Well, everybody says to the partner with the Gorga and
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: they got screwed or some business deal went bad. Right,
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: So I guess I challenge the ultimate, right. I was like,
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: you know what, I want to go at this now.
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: I'm just kidding around. So me and Joe are really
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: good friends. Look, I'm in this phase now where passive
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: income is my new thing, all right. I just want
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: to create passive income. And the way I explained it
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: all I was like, I want to build rivers, and
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: those rivers are going to feed the bay, and I
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: want those rivers to constantly flow. So you know, I
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: have a billable hour river that's flowing. I have a
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: couple of rental units, and I'm building that river that's flowing.
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: And I wanted to expand. So going into glan Slon
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: Studios is basically the space that I think is thriving. Right.
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: Everybody wants to be in business for themselves now, so
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: why not take a larger space, subdivided, give them the
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: ability to be in business for themselves. Now both of
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: our wives. I have people in and out of my
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: house daily, and all I do is I talk to
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: these people because that's just who I am, the personality.
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: I talked to everybody. How you doing? We just start?
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: Had you come up? You know? And I talked to
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: all these beauty exeditions and I just hear the story
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: and I'm like, you know what, this is a great idea.
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: I started fishing around. There was a buddy who was
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: doing it where I was going to invest in them
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: with him. Something turned me off about investing with them,
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: so I decided that that wasn't the route to go.
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: So me and Joe decided at that point, hey, let's
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: just do it ourselves. You know, it's just I'm We're
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: going to go for it. See what we could turn
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: it into. He's got the construction background. I have some
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: of it. We could turn this into a money maker.
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: Why not let's try it.
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: Well, tell us about the business. What is it?
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: So what it is is it's basically subdivided studios. So
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: we took a larger space. We subdivided it. Now, if
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: you're in the business of waxing people. Right, I got wax.
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: So here you go, there's a wax studio. This is
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: I'm going to give Joe his own wax studio. This
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: you go wax away in there, right, But you want
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: to wax people, and you want to bring your clients there.
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: You pay us, you know, weekly, and then you're able
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: to bring your clients there. So now it's ay least
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: from us yearly, but it's just distributed weekly. And now
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: if they have a client base, they can bring them
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: there and they can use it as their studio. If
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: they are a eyebrow waxer, they do eyebrow waxing, we're tattooing.
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: You can rent a studio from us if you do hair.
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: And you don't want to work for a beauty salon
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: because a lot of these girls, you don't realize they're
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: working for these salons and they're getting they're given all
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: their money to the Salona arm. You wouldn't believe how
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: much the cut is. Where they're all going in business
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: for themselves at this point. And I mean, I'm sure
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: you guys see it. You got hair and makeup in
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: your house every day, you see what going on you know,
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: they're bringing everything to people's homes at this point just
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: to make the money, So why not give them a
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: studio space and then people can come to the studio. Yeah,
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: so that's really what it is. It's basically you've got
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: boat talks. Come there. Now. Even if you're a doctor
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: and you need a strings office comes see, yes, we
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: got you.
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: So you're building the infrastructure, the real estate infrastructure around it.
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: So these folks have an economical way of conducting their
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: business without you know, breaking the bank. When it comes
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: to having your own brick and mortar, right, well.
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: Think about it. To open a beauty salon, you have
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: to go out, you have to lease the space, you
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: have to put a security deposit down. Once you do that,
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: now you have to do a build out, right, You
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: got to build a whole place out. So if you
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: only need one chair really for yourself, and you have
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: to build four or five chairs and then go and
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: hire and manage employees. A lot of people don't want
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: to deal with that. They want to work for themselves,
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: but they don't want to deal with that. So our
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: salon suites give them the ability to work for themselves,
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: manage their own schedule. Have their own suite and that's it.
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: They don't have to put the money out to really
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: go crazy and build this whole place.
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: So is it like a Regius but for beauty right?
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: Pretty much?
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: Nice?
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: I like it. I like it.
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: We work are Regius, but it's all beauty space nice.
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: So it's interesting, you know, But it's about trying things.
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: So our next episode we're going to talk about what
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: Eddie and I do for beauty that would actually work
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: for us. We could actually go to one of your
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: salons if you open one in California.
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: What's your beauty routine? What do you do?
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: You just get a wait for the other episode. Yeah,
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: we'll talk about that at the next episode for sure.
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: But we want to we really want to just make
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: this about you and and learn as much as we
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: can about you. John, I'd like to talk a little
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: bit more about the me experience Ed and I Edwin
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: and I Can I.
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: Call you Ed because yeah, yeah, so Ed and I
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: we we've experienced it good and bad, and we've shared
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: our experience on the show and with some examples. Can
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: you tell us a little bit about what do you
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: like and what you dislike about filming reality TV? Real Housewives.
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: So one of the one of the things I like is,
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: you know, obviously your wife is happy. You see her happy, right,
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: And you get to meet people and you get to
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: do with some of the some very interesting things that
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: you probably wouldn't really do every day. Right. You get
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: to go to certain events, you get to do things,
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: you get put on a pedestal a little bit, you
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: get reservations easy, you get hooked up. But I think
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: some of the most challenging things I have is being
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: a guy on The Real Housewives New Jersey. It's almost
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: like you're a main cast member, but you're not right
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: because you're not a housewife technically, right, But your whole
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: life is on TV, your whole kids are on TV,
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: and you have people that are blowing you up on
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: social media. Right. Social media is the playground for everybody
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: to have their opinion, right, like, oh, you're involving yourself
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: too much, or you're this, or you're that, And it's
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: very easy to have an opinion. It's very easy to
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: have an opinion until you're the person that's being judged constantly.
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: You know, But I just don't care, so it doesn't
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: bother me. But you know, when you're thinking in the
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: moment and you're like, Okay, well I did it this way.
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: You don't really have so much time to really think
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: about the best way to do it. Sometimes this is
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: not scripted, you know, you just freestyleing off the cup.
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: And I didn't go to school being in a reality
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: TV And I'm a business dude. I'm in a valet
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: business and tile business. You know, I'm not in theater
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: at all art, you know. So I don't like you know,
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: there's a lot of things going on on social media,
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: and there's a lot of people that kind of rip
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: our lives apart as if we're toys and then actually
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: in a play chess and we're really not. I don't
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: like our kids involved, you know. I don't like when
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: people bring the kids into it. The kids are there,
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: they're part of our life, but they shouldn't be subject
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: to comments on social media things that are going on
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: that's out of bounce. You know, you totally now, Yeah,
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: my son doesn't need to you know, people are signed
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: him Bilbo pictures and this and that, and then you're
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: trying to tell me how to parent at the same time. No,
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: you know, it's very simple. I don't like, as a guy,
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: you just don't get any recognition. Your whole life is
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: being broadcast and you get no recognition to really say it.
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: I don't even have a confessional moment where I can
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: even defend myself most of these times. Right, some of
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: the other guys can get that, but I get ripped
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: apart on season fourteen. I don't even have the ability
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: to say, hey, this is my version of what and
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: this is how this happened. I don't have that platform. Yeah,
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: so I don't like that. Other than that, it's not bad,
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: you know, it's just when the Housewives says something about
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: a guy, you don't really have the defense that you
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: should have.
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: Right, No, it's it's hard, especially when they're making a
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: fabricated lies about you, whatever they may be. You know,
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: it's it's how do you defend the lie? You just
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: ignore it. It has no legs, it's got no validity,
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: and you can say whatever you want until you break
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: the law. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna engage with you, right,
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna go there. I mean,
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: I can't tell you how many times I just wanted
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: to blow up and you know, go to the media
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: and tell my side of the story or or retaliate
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: if you will. But it really just becomes a waste
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: of my time when I could be doing some so
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: much other stuff, you know, more productive stuff, then defending
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: myself on a reality TV show which I have no
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: control of.
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: Right, right, And then it it just gets to a
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: point though where it's like whatever, it's only it's it's
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: a reality TV show and it's not real life. This
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: is ridiculous. And I think men process a little different
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: than women. Do you get angry about it, You go
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: to the gym, you work it off, and I think
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: you kind of just you know, move on with your day. Yeah.
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: I do think, and I'm a strong advocator for you know,
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: I do think there should be a men's time out,
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: or a men's show or men's vacation. I think that
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: there's so much the guys get along. Obviously in Vegas
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: we had a great time. We get along. There's so
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: much more to learn about the guys. And I think
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: that the guys tend to make people laugh.
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: And I think that, Yeah, I was just going to
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: say that the biggest difference about the Jersey men's cast
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: versus all the franchises, and I don't watch all of them.
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: I barely even watch mine. My experience on my own
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: cast is I don't know these guys from Adam. And
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: There's been very few, maybe three guys in the entire
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: twelve years that I've filmed that I've actually liked the
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: guys on the other on the cast, you know, Terry
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: Burrow being one, Shane being another, David deb Or, David Badoor,
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: you know, very few guys. The rest of them sketchy,
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: you know, like I don't want anything to do with them,
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: zero to do with them, and and like, and that's
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: the problem I have with being on a show where
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: I can you know, I don't know these people. I
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: don't want to know these people. But even if I did,
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't trust to tell them anything because you never
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: know what's going to be shown on TV, right, or
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: what they're going to bring up for whatever reason? Right, Yeah,
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: I don't know who. Do you think Edwin well?
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: No, I tend to agree. It's it's tough. I think
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: the Jersey guys do a good job of like really
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: hanging out and stuff, but it is hard to what
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: do you tell? How much could you tell a cast
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: member because they could tell the wife and then the
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: wife turns around and blows you up on TV. Right, So, uh,
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: you just to your point, you never know, And I
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: think that's what makes it a little harder for the
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: guys to like really kind of hang out. Uh is
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: that I think most won't admit it, but I think
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: deep down it's kind of hard to hang out because
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: of that because you just don't know. That's when when
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: I mean, I haven't seen it, but you saw it.
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: Maybe you see it, Eddie, But typically once you stop filming,
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: you're not really hanging out.
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: I think.
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: Again, I think the Jersey guys do a good job
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: of that, but I think everyone else I haven't really
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: seen anybody really hang out after filming.
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: Like that was my point I was trying to make,
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: is that the Jersey guys are different when it comes
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: to the show. Because you guys all get along, most
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: of you get along.
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: You got to make sure you say most of us.
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because you know. And in my opinion, this is
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: just my opinion, it's all revolving around Joe Gorga, who's
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: the life of the party, totally down to earth cool guy.
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: We had him on our podcast and We really enjoyed
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: his energy and his story. And from day one I
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: got along with Joe because he's just such a cool
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: cat and he just wants to have a good time.
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: You know, he's not attacking the guys. He's just I mean,
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: he wants to be on stage and he's good. He's
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: got charismatic charisma up the yin yang and he's had
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: your own show at the Bravo Calm last year. It's
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: just phenomenal. Yeah. I mean, you guys are enjoying it
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: and having fun, and I do admire that, but we
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: we don't have any of that in my in my franchise.
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: I don't think you have that edwin like that kind
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: of connection. Yeah. Yeah, it's just it's it's not it's
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: not something that is common in the Housewives show. But
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: you guys definitely stand out. And when I hung out
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: with you guys, gave me the opportunity to hang out
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: with you guys at probably Con, I really enjoyed myself
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: and there was no pressure, there was no like I'm
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: trying to be somebody I'm not and and it was cool.
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: I really enjoyed hanging out with you guys.
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: No, you hit it best we just all, you know,
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: we all want to have a good time, not just
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: we all want to just have a good time, laugh
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: and have a good time go home. That's that is
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: Like even tonight Joe and Frank they got a comedy show.
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: I'll probably go there at some point tonight or tomorrow
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: and bust their chops in the audience.
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: Have fun.
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: It's just we have a good camaraderie. Again, not all
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: of us, but before there's four of us that have
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: a really close relationship.
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Joe's doing comedy now, Yeah, I got to keep
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: up with him.
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he does it all. I'm telling you, he's been
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: doing comedy.
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: And actually he's pretty funny, man, I give him that.
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: You know, he's pretty funny. But I mean, look, Joe's
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: a great guy. I know him on a different level.
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: I mean since I got in this show, he took
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: me right underneath his wedding. Could have could have steered
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: me in the wrong direction. There was no jelus here,
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: any of that steered me in the right direction. We're
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: boys who are friends to his day. Just have fun
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: with it, That's all I can say. Man, I have
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: fun with it. There's good days and bad you know.
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: There's some days but the internet's blowing up and it
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: just like, what the hell did I do this for?
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: You know?
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Eventually, like.
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: Anything else, you outgrow it. I think that's that's the
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: best word. Eventually. It's like I would either run in
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: their mouth again, so be it. Like I heard, you know,
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: Kenny and was just doing a podcast running her mouth
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: about my family. Yeah, go ahead if you need to
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: talk about me that bad.
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: I love that.
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel bad because we're not talking. I don't
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: really give a shit about your people. Yeah, that's how
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: I call it. I really don't give us to it.
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: And I think that's another really good point we want
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: to bring up is that the show is a show,
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: and even though it is reality TV, it's still a production.
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: It's still edited, and it's still designed to create a
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: story and a show for what it's worth. Taking it
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: outside of the filming days and the airing days and
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: making this a personal attack on your social media or however,
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: just anything outside of the Bravo curtain. It should be
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: off limits. You know. It's like you go to work.
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: Let's say you're a lawyer. You go to work, you
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: practice law, and then you leave it at the office. Right,
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: sometimes you take it home, but it's here. You're not
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: broadcasting it to the world to say, this is the
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: biggest case I'm working on, and I'm going to tell
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: everybody what's going on, because then you'd lose the case.
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: But the point is keep it in the TV realm,
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: don't take it outside of this and make it that
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: much more personal than it has to be. And I
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: get it. Some people have to defend their lies, but
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: you know, the truth is the truth and will always prevail.
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: The truth will always prevail.
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: I also think some people just need to do that
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: to build who they are, you know, And I don't
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: think unless you have somebody to take down, you have nothing.
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: There's some people that are like that in the world, right.
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: I know a lot of people that they have to
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: rip people apart to build themselves up.
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's kind of their character. But some would
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: argue that my wife falls into that category. But she
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: just tells the truth, you know, she just calls out
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: the truth. She's not making up lies. She's not pretending that.
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: You know that. You know, she won't say anything that's
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: not true about you. She might get a little crazy,
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: but she doesn't, you know, make lies up.
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: Except yep, I thought your wife's awesome. Man, I'm pretty
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: good judge of character, but I thought I thought she's
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: a great girl.
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: She is is. I love her as well.
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: I like them both.
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and they're very they're very famous on their podcasts.
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: They're really happy with themselves because you know, they're killing it.
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: I like what you guys did to turn it, you know,
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: with you guys. I like that as well.
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: By the way, John, with with with everything being so
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: divided with New Jersey and you know, everybody kind of
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: just do you if Rachel were to come back, I mean,
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: is she coming back? And if she gets the call
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: to come back, would you tell her not to or.
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I'm gonna use Joe when you're already pregnant.
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: You're already pregnant, right, so we're already pregnant for the
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: most part. That's how he says it. But my thing is,
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: we're already in the water, just seep right. Yeah. I'm
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: not saying we wouldn't get out, and I'm not saying
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: that we would. We'd have to feel it out and
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: see what the rest of the circle looks like. And
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: you know, if you feel like you're going to be
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: in another toxic circle, then at some point you'd got
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: to walk away, right, you don't want to You're I'm
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: going to do something where it continues to affect you
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: in your career and stuff like that. If it's toxic, now,
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: if it makes sense and it's fun and there could be,
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: you know, something good that comes out of it and
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: people can have a good time, then yeah, it makes
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: sense to continue.
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: I like that answer, and I'll add to that. I
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: think it's you know, in reality in the real world,
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: if I find out that I'm in a circle of criminals,
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: I'm going to get out right. I don't want to
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: be around that, and not because I hold myself at
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: a higher standard, but because I don't want to risk
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: my family being surrounded by that, you know. And that's
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: one of the issues I have with reality TV is
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: they're glorifying all this illegal transactions and illegalities of reality TV. Right,
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: Why are they getting so much attention if they're doing
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: something illegal? It doesn't make any sense to me. So
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: my answer would be, you know, if we're going to
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: surround us with a bunch of criminals, I'm out. I
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: don't want anything to do with that. But because in real
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: life I would take my stuff out of that picture easily, right, right,
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: Like you gotta.
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: If you see that you got a bunch of criminals
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: around you, you have to evaluate at that point and
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: say this is not for me.
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know, unfortunately till you get there, you know,
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: you don't really know what is there season by season.
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: Right, I mean, I think to that point, if you
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: are hanging out with a bunch of kids and you
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: find out one kid you know is stealing and breaking
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: into cars and you're just there hanging with them, yeah,
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: you're you're guilty by association, but you learn as a
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: young kid, I want nothing to do with those people, right,
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: Because it.
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: Also looks like on you, it looks back because we're associated.
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: If you don't falk to somebody and you don't want
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: to mess with them, we're still associated. Yes, we're on
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: the same show, you know. Yeah, I hate it. Yeah,
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: I don't like it because it reflects on your character.
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: It does, it does, And you know, we spend at
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: least I know you guys too, We spend most of
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: our life being as good as a citizen and as
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: good a person as we can. You know, we're not perfect.
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: But we do what's right, and and that just has
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: kept me out of trouble. And I've not done anything
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: so drastically illegal. You know. God, I haven't got a
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: speeding ticket in a long time. But I'm gonna knock
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: on wood right right, you know, good at night, I
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: sleep very good at night. I don't screw anybody. I
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: don't steal from people. I you know, if I don't
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: like something, I just keep my mouth shut and stay
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: away from it, you know, unless unless it affects my
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: family and and you know, the people I love. It's
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: not my business and I'd rather stay out of it.
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: But and that's that's just a man in general. Right
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: when you start messing with your family and you start,
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: of course you're gonna piss them off. They're gonna wake
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: them up a little bit.
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, So awesome question for you.
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: That's kind of out there. So just because the New
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: Jersey girls are a little intimidating, I think, is there
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: one in particular that you're like, I do not want
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: to get in a mess with that one?
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: Interesting question? Is there one that.
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: You're just like, Man, this one's too quick, too witted,
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: like too much wit. I don't even have a chance.
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: My wife. Yeah, my wife, good answer. My wife would
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: be the one. Other than that, that's it.
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: So the Jersey girls you feel are intimidating. Man.
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: I've seen a little bit of them in action, and
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: I'm like, oh shit, man, I would not want to
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: get in an argument with one of those.
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: There you go. It's funny, man. Jersey is such an
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: interesting place, so is New York. But they're they're very catty,
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: that's for sure. Yeah, very caddy.
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: So, as we come to the end of the discussion here, John,
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: is there anything else you would like to tell the
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: listeners about yourself like that you don't want them to know.
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, obviously don't believe in what you're here.
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: That's just straight out ridiculous. Yeah. But yeah, listen, I
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: don't like to fight with women. I don't like to
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: do all that. I'm only in a position where I
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: have to defend myself and I did.
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: Other than that, I want not to do any any
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: of the other ones. You know, unless you attack my family,
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: I'm going to do what every man does. It's going
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: to be defend his family. Yeah, but and my children.
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: You know, I definitely don't think it's right that the
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: kids deal with stuff.
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's totally low blow. I mean that's trash
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: when when women do that.
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's not just women too, there's some guys
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: that do it as well. But just come on and
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: leave the kids out of it.
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, yeah, it.
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: Is, it is so but on that's it, man. You know,
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: unless you guys have any questions for me. But I'm
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: an open book. I got nothing to hide, and most
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: of the viewers know. If there's something they want to know,
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: shoot me a message. I always answer everybody.
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's awesome, and I do appreciate the transparency. There's
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: some questions that were probably hard to answer that you answered,
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: and man, it's been a pleasure having you on the show.
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: Congratulations on all the success and keep questioning it.
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: Thank you, Bettie, Thank you. Man. It's only hard if
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: you've got something to hide. Man, if you've got nothing,
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: I agree with life. It's easy, man. There's nothing hard
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: about any of that, you know.
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And to that point, I know that there's not
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: one person out there that doesn't have at least one
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: skeleton in the closet. But when you have a freaking
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: cemetery you should stay off reality TV shows.
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll put, We'll put when you're hiring bloggers to
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: attack people and things like that, like yeah, yeah, you
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: got to say that there's some crazy people out there. Man.
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: Some of the things that I have witnessed in the
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: last year and a half on what was being done
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: behind the scenes to tarnish me and evidence improved, I'm
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: still like, whoa, I feel like I'm part of I
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: want to make a documentary. That's my next thing. I
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: want to film a documentary next.
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah you MANU will tune in?
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah right, probably right.
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: Well, maybe the house franchise will come up with the
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: Real House Husbands of New Jersey and the Real House
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: Husbands of Orange County and the Real House Husbands of
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: Beverly Hills, and we'll have our own show.
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: You would not believe how many viewers want to see
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: a Guys trip. Man. I get told all the time
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: I hear about it. I don't know why Bravo hasn't
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: done it. I mean, it's it's very apparent that they
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: want to see it, so I would just I mean,
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: it doesn't make any sense as a business not to say, hey,
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: let's go and do two or three days of film
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: and let's see how this does as a pilot. I
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: think it would make a lot of sense bringing a
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: lot of the guys from the franchises together and having fun.
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, that could be fun. That could be a
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: lot of fun. But it goes back to my point.
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: You know, the Real House that's of Orange County. It's
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: really a woman's show, a female show. And you know,
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: I won't leave the gays out because it's a show
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: for them too. But most mature male, like business driven guys,
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: they don't sit and watch this show. You know, most
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: of the guys don't.
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: So you would think that I had the biggest biker
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: in ac come up to me a Hell's Angels. My
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: man was huge. Wow, And I'm like, you watch it? Yeah, man, yeah, yeah,
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: I love that shit.
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: The wives make them watch it.
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: You shocked, man, how many guys that actually watched the
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: show addicted?
• 49:48
  Speaker 3: Once you start watching it, like, you gotta be careful,
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: Like I always tell friends, like, I know, you want
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: to watch one episode, you're gonna get hooked on it.
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's I do have had that experience John as well,
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: where Burley guys and and even you know in the beginning.
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: I told the story in the beginning of our podcast
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: as well. When we first started dating and we went
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: to watch What Happens in New York and we were
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: walking down the Broadway or something. A big fire truck
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: passed by and they noticed camera, and then they put
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: two and two together and they started going crazy, we
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: love Yeah, And I turned around and I'm like, the
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: Fireman watch you.
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: Reality check? Right? Yeah? Oh my god. I didn't realize that.
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know, I personally can't sit and watch
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: all the cattiness and the fighting and all that. I
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: do find it interesting. It's quite a phenomenon that this
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: show has lasted this long. That's more intriguing to me, Like,
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: how did this show have such long longevity and duration?
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: And god knows how much money it's generated, you know
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: in the last what is it, almost twenty years. That's
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: more interesting to me than you know, who's fighting with
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: who and who's calling who out? And you know who's
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: the criminal this season? You know, it's just right.
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: Endless. Yeah, there's always been to be families, There's always
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: gonna be something.
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I get it. Always the stery to tell.
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: That's it, man, You know, there really is and I
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: think there's a lot of life left and off. You know,
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: as a photo family, we have a lot going on.
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: You know that they're missing unfortunately.
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, So the show's on pause, right your show?
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, pause or whatever they want to call it. Pause.
• 51:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah.
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: I only hear this through my wife because she tells
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: me a little bit what's going on over there. And
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: then I just saw Joe in New York and he
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: was telling me it's on pause. So well, you know,
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: I wish you guys luck. I hope the show comes
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: back because Jersey is one of the most entertaining, because
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: the guys and the girls are both entertaining, and I
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: think the viewers would be really lost if they didn't
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: have Jersey. So I hope you guys come back and
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: they clean up the show.
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: Agreed, Let's see Man from your Mouth and God's Ears,
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: Let's see what happens. John.
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: It was great catching up to you and having you
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: on the pod. It's been a pleasure. I look forward
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: to catching up next time I see you.
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: All right, guys, it was a pleasure being on. Let
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: me know if there's any questions you
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: Guys have after awesome awesome, I'll see you guys later
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: Thanks John, have a good one.