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Prison Lifer gives advice -changes inmate’s life for success- Kyle Chiaponne · Nightmare Success In and Out

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  What happens when he works here? Becomes your reality.
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  Hi. I'm Brian Cassidy.
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  Welcome to the nightmare success in and out podcast.
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  But we explore a, how to overcome your fears and
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  Nightmares is set yourself free. We're going to be exploring this
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  topic with guys that was in Leavenworth with and others who
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  survived their own nightmare. These stories can be inspiring.
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  Sometimes sad, there's some humor but hopefully you can come
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  away with a nugget of something that will help you knock down.
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  And some of the prisons you've built up in your own mind.
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  Welcome back nine, more success. Listeners.
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  This is where you guys come to hear what happens when your
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  worst fear becomes your reality. I've been lucky to always have
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  and I want to give a shout out to Travis Richey, who connected
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  me up with my guest. Kyle caponi, this is a great
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  story. It, you know, it's it's about
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  you've got a, you got a 10-year sentence, you've got, you know,
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  that ended up in a nasty fight. Involves some guns.
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  And but it is a story about tenacity about faith about
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  entrepreneurship about Redemption.
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  I can't wait to get into this because there's so many good
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  nuggets of wisdom. That Kyle gives, I listen to one
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  of his podcast with Travis convicted mindset, which is a
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  great podcast to with was Travis Richey and Travis Richey was a
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  guest on the show a few Ooh, back if you guys are playing the
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  board game at home, I can't remember what podcast he was,
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  but go check it out when you get a chance.
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  Hey, before we get into all that I want to recognize and and Kyle
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  I told Kyle before we got, he's going to have to close his ears.
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  Kyle, welcome in man, how are you?
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  Good good, but I got to say, man, there's a better way to
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  Redemption way. There it is, man.
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  Knock knock. We're gonna get in that.
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  We're gonna get into that store because how you got it, how you
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  got into Redemption Auto and just kept stepping, and making
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  it happen? That in itself is an inspiring
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  story because a lot of people when they get into thinking,
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  hey, you know, I'm down on my luck but I still got an idea.
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  I still think I can do it. But man they say the licensing
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  is hard. All this stuff's hard you walked
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  through all of that and you just kept, you know, a step layered
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  up a step layer up and then and then there you are your
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  Redemption Auto and and I want to get into your back story
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  because yes sir Let's go back to because you were telling me
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  earlier, you grew up as a kid that, you know, you didn't have
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  the kid of the alcoholic parents and their, you know, abusive and
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  all that. You had kind of a good normal.
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  You know. Mom.
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  Dad childhood right. Yeah.
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  Yes sir. Yes.
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  Sir growing up, man. I'm the youngest boy of three
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  along the way we did end up even fostering kids.
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  So I got a little brother that was adopted.
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  And man, just good parents man. Good wholehearted, parents, both
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  my parents work their way through college.
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  You know, my mom's dad was an accountant, so he had his own
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  company being an accountant and you know, they weren't well off
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  financially, my parents parents, but they were good enough right
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  there were decent, they were middle class and then my parents
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  pretty much earned everything they had man.
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  You know, again work their way through college.
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  They met in college, they both ended up finishing.
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  Ended up opening their own companies.
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  My dad was a landscaper, my mom sold real estate.
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  They ended up getting out of that and ended up actually
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  becoming School teachers which had to be hard for my parents
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  because I was just terrible when it when it came came to school.
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  So your siblings were they you were the youngest and I you
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  know, and I foster care because I remember, you know, being a
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  Leavenworth. There's a lot of guys that went
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  through foster care. What was that whole experience?
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  Like, with your siblings and having somebody come in, that
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  was became basically part of the family Foster.
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  What, how was that? Yeah, I mean it was good man, to
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  be honest, like how it transpired is, my oldest brother
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  was dating a girl who had a little brother, her parents
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  lost, custody her mother, lost custody, and it was man.
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  My parents were great, man. They gave us very much
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  opportunity to think for ourselves to become our own
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  independent sales. They, you know, broach the
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  subject with us. It's not just like, this is what
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  we're going to do, you know? And this, this kid, my little
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  brother, he had been in and out of Our lives for the last two
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  years. Before the parent, the mother
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  actually lost custody the older daughter or the, his sister,
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  which was my brother's girlfriend was like 17 at the
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  time. Yeah, so she was about to be 18.
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  So it's like, you know, my parents actually sat us down and
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  gave us opportunity to discuss it as a family and said, hey you
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  know this is what's happening with the family.
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  We want you guys to be aware but we don't want to do anything
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  without you guys being in a grand.
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  That's cool. And I'm again we already knew
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  the kid, you know? He Is like 11 at the time and I
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  was like, 13 or 14. Yeah.
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  And, you know, me and and both of my brothers we were in a
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  grant and we move forward with the process.
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  Well, that's cool. So growing up as a kid.
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  You said, you kind of had a normal childhood but you you
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  said you were a little bit of a trouble in school.
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  What was your school life like, man?
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  You know, You would have never thought it if you looked at me
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  when I was younger, but I had I was very self-conscious.
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  I didn't believe in myself. You know.
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  I just I thought I was Dumb and I didn't think I was smart.
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  I was labeled ADD ADHD and Elementary School.
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  Yeah, I did. I had sld classes even in
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  elementary school. So you know that do you think
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  that minute you feel that way Kyle is?
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  Is that where you think that came from?
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  Is that they labeled you and you felt like, hey, I'm different
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  from everybody else. I don't know if it necessarily
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  came from that but I'm sure didn't help, right?
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  And and I kind of projected that.
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  So like instead of allowing people to see that I was
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  insecure. Yeah, I put out a false bravado
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  into the world as a super alpha male, but inside my mind, I
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  didn't even believe it myself. And that's where a lot of my
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  troubles came from. And that's where a lot of them
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  stemming from. And I did have a lot of
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  difficulty, as a youth controlling my emotions, they
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  actually attempted to label me as a man. emotionally
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  handicapped that one stays just because I was I showed out so
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  much in school that the teachers couldn't handle me.
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  Yeah. And that was where I think my
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  mom kind of Drew the line. She's like.
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  Okay, sld is one thing but emotionally handicapped is
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  another and I'm not going to allow you to put my kids like
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  because they had a specific class for emotionally
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  handicapped and you know just from conversing with me on this
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  podcast you can tell like I'm not not that there's anything
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  against that but I'm not in a way of like on the extreme side
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  of the spectrum, right, right. I Is just a kid that did have
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  lack of self-control when I did I did.
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  Yeah, I know, I get that. So Anna and on top of that, I
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  was high-strung, right? I probably was ADD ADHD, but
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  also that's part of my superpower is going to say that.
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  I think that's the thing that makes your story very
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  interesting because I think you use that to step into things,
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  when a lot of people probably would have been scared too, but
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  you took the risk and and just You know, there's a lot to be
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  said about tenacity and, you know, when you keep going and
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  everybody else drops off, you're the last man standing.
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  A lot of times. That's a really good thing,
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  because you've gone through all of it.
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  And, you know, I've I say it a lot man in like my incarceration
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  is my superpower, and it's my kryptonite.
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  Yeah, and it's the same thing for like, the ADD ADHD, the
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  things that I experienced in school, the different attributes
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  to my character, the tenacity the intensity, the the
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  hardheadedness, you know, these are My superpowers, but they're
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  also my kryptonite, right? Because if you apply them in the
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  wrong way, it would be the wrong mindset with the wrong attitude
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  that can lead you in the wrong directions, very quickly, like
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  what you said, whereas most people might Stutter Step, they
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  might think too long, they might not make the decisions which we
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  all know, as entrepreneurs making quick decisions is a
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  necessity, right? Whereas a lot of people, they
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  get caught up and the lack of the ability to actually make
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  those decisions. There's a term that they use.
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  I'm trying to think of what You don't have to be perfect when
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  you're when you're creating business.
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  Exactly, have to take action when you take a business and
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  then you learn and evolve as you go, I want to go back to because
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  you were explaining to me Kyle that you got into the streets.
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  You got into drugs, you got into the world of, you know, the
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  danger zone. But walk walk me through how
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  that happened because you're kind of a middle-class kid you
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  know, you got working. Parents, you didn't grow up on
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  the streets. So how did you get any of that?
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  Yeah. So, you know back I was what we
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  were just discussing is as a youth.
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  The one thing that I was good at with sports, right?
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  So my parents put me into every sport.
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  There was and I excelled in all of them but by the time I was
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  in, like, third, fourth grade, I had started getting in so much
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  trouble that my dad just didn't sign me up one year for soccer
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  and I was like, well, what happened?
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  He's like, well, I didn't think you wanted to play anymore, you
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  know, and that was kind of the beginning of the end, not to say
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  that. It's my dad's fault, but I
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  started Around with a circle of individuals kids that were
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  around my age. Couple years older that were all
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  kind of just getting into a rebellious State.
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  You know, whether we were riding around bikes and like shooting
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  BB guns at cars or throwing oranges or like stealing candy
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  bars, or stupid stuff out of the corner stores.
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  Like all of us were just kind of up to a little bit of rebellion,
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  which as a young man, and as a youth, you're going to get into
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  a little bit of that type of situation where you're just
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  being rebellious, you know. It's But it gets to a point to
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  where at one point you're going to kind of transition from that
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  behavior. That's like something that your
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  parents might punish you for. But isn't necessarily that bad
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  to like breaking over the boundaries of saying, you're
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  actually breaking the law and you're being a menace to
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  society, right? And we started getting into
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  that, you know, started smoking, cigarettes, very young then
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  started stealing the cigarettes from the parents started
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  stealing bikes, and candy bars and cigarettes from the stores.
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  And Escalated to marijuana usage and you know, doing whatever we
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  could to get the marijuana and like just staying out past
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  curfew and all those things. But a huge transitionary period
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  of my life. I say this all the time is that
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  each individual's we have periods of transition in our
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  lives, whether that be like a losing of a loved one, a deep
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  sickness, and incarcerations, our marriage, a divorce of a
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  marriage, a loss of a child, at Birth of a child and these
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  different transitionary period in our lives.
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  Lives. They can either lead us in
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  positive, directions or negative directions.
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  And it's all up to How You observe them, how you perceive
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  them, and how you apply yourself in the midst of them and
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  probably around fourth, or fifth grade, I ended up befriending
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  somebody who became very close to me that their older brother
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  was in the business of Distributing large amounts of
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  marijuana narcotic and because his older brother was doing it,
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  you know, he kind of fell into it as well so he was getting
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  certain amounts and distributing it out to his friends and
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  selling it. And then would go up, go back
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  and re up from his brother. And at this time, you know, as
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  his brother was probably 21, 22, 23, and we were 15 16 his
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  brother at that time. Keep in mind probably Not like
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  you was putting them up on game. Like this is what I would say.
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  This is like Rog like he taught us the right way of how to do
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  it, whoo-hoo, how to participate in the game.
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  Hey, this is how much it weighs this?
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  How much you should be paying this?
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  How much you should get for that?
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  This, how much they should be distributed for this?
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  How much you should sell it for, you know, be careful when you're
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  doing this. Yeah.
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  Like teaching us the right way. Don't spend all your money.
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  Saving reinvest the money that you're making, is it to be spent
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  as to be, is to be reused to re-up on more product, you know?
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  So not which is actually good business advice by exactly.
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  So he was, he was literally my first business mentor and I give
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  him credit for that. Is that, you know, he did teach
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  us the right way of how to participate in the Avenue of
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  business that he knew at that time, right?
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  So like there's a lot of people who are conducting themselves
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  and that sort of behavior pattern, that might not have a
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  mentor like that, who just re-up and then they burn up all their
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  money because they don't know how to redistribute the funds
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  that they're receiving for the product that they're selling.
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  To then redistribute back out to more product to be purchased, or
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  to save it so that they can purchase larger quantities at
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  lower prices. So then they can make more money
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  on their profit, right? But at the same times as he's
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  teaching us The right way to participate in a negative
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  behavior pattern, we are leading ourselves down a destructive
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  pattern of abuse and destruction.
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  Yeah, so you get into that. Do you think Kyle man?
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  I'm really I'm really walking on the wild side.
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  Are you think this is all good? You know, I'm getting my way.
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  I'm feeling confident. This is, this is, this is me
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  like where were you? When you're thinking there we
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  go. Because, you know, you're living
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  Both Worlds, you're going home, things are probably pretty
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  normal and then you're in this wild world.
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  Did you feel like the adrenaline rush of being in that world?
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  Or was it scary and thinking, I'm an imposter.
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  So, I'm definitely an adrenaline junkie.
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  And I'm also somebody who, like, if somebody sees the positive
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  trait at me, and they pointed out, it makes me feel good.
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  And then I want to embrace that positive trait.
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  So, up until this point, like you said, I always felt very
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  insecure Are in my own flesh of who I was that I was incapable
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  of certain things that I always wanted to prove myself to the
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  people around me. And when I got into this area,
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  when I got into this relationship, when I was in this
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  household, like my friends older brother saw the positive
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  attributes to me that I could be good at doing what we were
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  doing. And he always, I noticed of him,
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  like he was a good Mentor, like he was a good leader, he would
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  feed into me to show me that like they become God.
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  What a day? Yeah, you have what it takes,
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  you know. So, at that time, being an
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  adrenaline junkie, it fed me in a certain type of way, but then
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  my mom did realize in, my parents did realize the
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  destructive pattern that was occurring in my life.
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  They could kind of see the downslide at this time.
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  But keep in mind, I'm 13, 14, 15, 16 years old.
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  I had got arrested like, to two or three times as a juvenile.
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  When I was 14 15, 16 and I got two parents.
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  Who are School teachers? Yeah.
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  Then I get put on probation as a juvenile.
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  My parents did everything they could give them their credit to
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  try to straighten me out. Whether it be threatening to
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  send me to an in-house rehabilitation program or you
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  know, Scared Straight programs or like driving me to the police
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  station stuff like that. And, you know, there was one
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  point that I want to point out like I was at my friend's
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  brother's house the Green Team raided the house, right?
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  So, the Green Team and our area was a drug enforcement agency
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  with Special Operations, that was specifically geared towards
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  narcotics, right? So they had been watching my
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  friends older brother me and my friend were at his house.
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  I'm maybe 13. 14, at this time. I have an all-white Pele.
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  Pele sweater on which at this time it was an expensive
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  sweater. My mom bought me, it was like a
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  hundred and something dollars and the Green Team comes over
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  the fence Through the Windows. Me and my buddy are in the
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  backyard with his older brother. They got another guy in the
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  back. We're going in the back to play
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  cards and they're coming from everywhere, right?
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  So all of them there, Got the machine guns, the whole nine.
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  And they lay everybody down. And keep in mind, I'm 13, 14
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  years old and I just stand there with my hands up.
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  I'm not scared at all. I'm like man it's all dirt and
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  the backyard and I got a white Pele Pele sweater on.
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  I'm like man I'm not laying down.
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  Even my friends older brother. Who's probably at that time he's
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  probably 23 24, 25 years old. He's like, man, just lay down,
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  lay down, you know. And I'm like, man.
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  Listen, I'm not laying down in this dirt with this white Pele.
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  Pele sweater down and the police officer.
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  Literally, grabbed the back of my shirt, pulled me over to the
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  concrete and had me lay down on the concrete because I went lay
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  down. And then after that, my friends
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  older brother started calling me Iceberg shorty, which at this
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  time, there was a brand called Iceberg and I think there was a
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  rapper out names. That was calling him Iceberg
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  shorty but and I was very short. I was like 52.
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  And, you know, that just enliven that sense of Privado within me
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  that like oh I'm 13 14. And like I'm not even scared
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  where these grown men are like laying down and scared, but at
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  the same time I'm also an adolescent.
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  So my mindset is not correctly. Analyze my thought patterns, and
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  in my awareness to the amount of The amount of.
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  Devastation that could occur during cuz I didn't lay down was
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  not actually consciously aware in my mind.
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  My mom picks me up from that scenario and like she didn't
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  even really berate me like that and she was just like I mean at
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  that point what could she really do?
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  You know? Yeah, well that's You know, it's
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  interesting that you even at that age were found yourself in
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  that situation, but your immediate thought was, I'm not
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  getting this sweater dirty and you would think any other person
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  that's in that situation hits the deck, you know?
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  And, and you know, thinks that their lives over and you
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  literally were thinking about this fancy sweater and I'm not
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  good at this. I'm not getting this one dirty.
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  So you get past that. So you you've entered in, you've
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  been in juvenile stuff. Lead us into the thing that
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  where you get snagged up and it was a real nightmare.
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  That you go, you go away. How did all that happen?
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  Yeah. So this obviously progress over
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  time, right? Started with the bike, then
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  cigarettes and marijuana. Then getting plugged in with the
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  guy who's a mentor, who's doing a large amount of work, then I
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  start doing my own thing, this guy goes to prison, my buddy
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  ends up dying. Now I'm starting to find new
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  connects. I'm starting to take over.
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  Were now I'm getting larger amounts of work like so this is
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  a progression. Are a journey that occurred 13,
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  14, 15, 16, 17, 18 years old. Yeah, yeah.
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  And there's all sorts of different situations that
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  happened along the way to where I could have been deterred off
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  of this path. So I want to hit on a couple of
• 20:27
  those before we get all the way into the end scenario but fast
• 20:30
  forward a few years, right? And I'm doing a decent amount of
• 20:33
  work at this time. A home invasion happens to me,
• 20:36
  right? So, two guys kick in my door,
• 20:39
  they lay me down. When they get my stuff, my
• 20:41
  brother ends up telling my parents show, my parents get,
• 20:45
  they sit me down and say look you need to get out of this
• 20:47
  lifestyle, you're gonna die, You're Gonna Go to Prison, they
• 20:51
  moved me into a house. I stopped for a little while,
• 20:53
  right? But I can't see any Avenue,
• 20:56
  besides, what I'm doing to get out.
• 20:58
  I started going to college, because that's what my parents
• 21:00
  told me to do. I'm doing that, but at the same
• 21:03
  time, I can't find an Avenue to produce Revenue fast.
• 21:07
  Enough, I'm used to living a more a Lifestyle.
• 21:10
  Sure, I end up getting back in. I'm going headfirst, it gets to
• 21:15
  the point where I set these different goals and standards
• 21:17
  for myself as I'm in the game, right?
• 21:20
  Okay, because at this point, I got one foot in one foot out.
• 21:23
  I'm always thinking like oh well once I get out of college, if I
• 21:27
  have this amount of money saved up, like I'm still in the
• 21:29
  streets, going to college, then I'll be good, I'll be set then I
• 21:33
  could just get my job, make my 50, 60 Grand a year.
• 21:36
  Have my money put up, have a house paid for my and go.
• 21:40
  Goal ended up being, you know what?
• 21:42
  Well, until I'm incarcerated or I am dead.
• 21:46
  I'm going to continue in the same type of lifestyle and
• 21:48
  pattern and that was a very dangerous spot to be.
• 21:52
  So that's where my mindset was by the point of the large
• 21:56
  incarceration that I ultimately received.
• 21:58
  So my mindset was in a bad place, right?
• 22:03
  I ended up getting arrested three times and four months all
• 22:07
  for exceedingly, aggressive behavior.
• 22:11
  I end up getting put on probation, so I stop consuming
• 22:15
  marijuana. But now because I'm not smoking
• 22:18
  marijuana, I'm drinking large amounts of alcohol, right?
• 22:21
  And the large amount of alcohol without the marijuana to calm.
• 22:26
  It ended up leading me into more aggressive behaviors, right?
• 22:32
  More more. You're more frustration. just,
• 22:41
  More difficult scenarios that I'm getting myself into right
• 22:45
  violence more violence. I end up going to a bar where
• 22:50
  it's where my ex-girlfriend at. This, my girlfriend at this
• 22:53
  time, she work. I go to pick her up and I end up
• 22:58
  getting into an argument with three guys, right?
• 23:03
  So, because of the lifestyle that I'm currently living in, at
• 23:06
  that time, I have a loaded firearm in my car, One in the
• 23:09
  Chamber, sit in the backseat of my car.
• 23:12
  So these three guys they let me get up and I get up.
• 23:17
  I say all right. Well if you're follow me to my
• 23:19
  car in just follow me out and they do I open the back door and
• 23:23
  I grab the firearm. I'm like, okay what now y'all
• 23:26
  let me come out in my car. Like that wasn't very smart you
• 23:29
  know and then it's two buddies end up walking away like oh we
• 23:32
  don't want no problems, you know.
• 23:34
  But the other guy And the Department of Corrections they
• 23:38
  call it checking in right. Like you got people who will
• 23:41
  check in, but they'll try to do it in a tough way.
• 23:44
  So like they're getting the officers attention because they
• 23:47
  feel like if they get soft, his attention that you won't do
• 23:49
  anything to him, but they really want the officers attention to
• 23:53
  get them out of trouble. So they do it in a way with with
• 23:56
  without it's like dry snitching, right?
• 23:59
  So the guy like throws his arms up.
• 24:01
  Oh, you got a gun. You got a gun, huh?
• 24:03
  And like gets everybody's attention out at this.
• 24:06
  Restaurant in this facility, the girl comes out, she breaks us
• 24:11
  up. She says, Kyle, what are you
• 24:13
  doing? You're on probation.
• 24:14
  They called the police. You need to leave so that kind
• 24:17
  of snaps me back in at that point.
• 24:19
  Because at that time, I'm kind of like locked in that drill is
• 24:22
  over with. Yeah, so then I get back in my
• 24:25
  car but now he's following my car selling me out.
• 24:29
  And at this point of my life, my ego is very big, right?
• 24:33
  So, when he's doing that now, Like a now.
• 24:37
  I look like the chocolate. Yeah, so I hop out of my car and
• 24:40
  I start shooting and a guy, I shoot a couple in the air.
• 24:44
  The guy starts running, I'm like, okay, well now you want to
• 24:46
  run so then I start shooting towards him but not like really
• 24:50
  trying to hear them just scan it and he do by Interpol, I shot to
• 24:53
  pull a couple times. I got in my car and drove off,
• 24:57
  you know, and that was the amount of the circumstance in
• 25:00
  the situation. And, you know, I think God today
• 25:03
  because I can describe this situation as as though like it
• 25:07
  wasn't that big of a deal. But I know a lot of people that
• 25:10
  have been in that same type of situation, who weren't
• 25:13
  necessarily truly intentionally Desiring to injure anybody or to
• 25:16
  kill anybody. Yeah.
• 25:17
  And I killed somebody or they killed multiple people.
• 25:19
  They killed the wrong person or a bullet, ricocheted and hit an
• 25:22
  innocent bystandard, and killed him.
• 25:24
  And any of those situations could have happened to me at
• 25:27
  that night. But praise God, you know, nobody
• 25:29
  was injured and I ended up leaving that situation.
• 25:34
  I got away for the night but then I Arrested later on in that
• 25:38
  same evening. So how'd that happen?
• 25:40
  So they they track you down. Were you at your house?
• 25:44
  Did they break into what exactly happened when they actually got
• 25:49
  you? So I end up getting away.
• 25:51
  I was in a rental car at the time, I just a rental car at a
• 25:55
  friend's house, I got rid of the firearm.
• 25:57
  I got all the drugs out of my house in case the police did
• 26:00
  come. I mean, I had time so I got rid
• 26:03
  of everything at this point in my life because of The
• 26:06
  circumstance of the life that I was living.
• 26:08
  I had three vehicles and motorcycle and I was actually
• 26:11
  driving a rental car that night. So I got rid of the rental car,
• 26:14
  I hopped in one of my took a shower, change my clothes.
• 26:17
  Thought I got rid of as much evidence as I could but then I
• 26:21
  hadn't heard from the girl that I was dating at that time.
• 26:24
  So I was concerned, I was calling her.
• 26:26
  Where was she at what happened? Trying to, you know, in my mind
• 26:28
  also wasn't operating, right? Keep in mind, I'm still
• 26:31
  consuming alcohol. I'm very intoxicated, this
• 26:35
  situation. Just happened.
• 26:36
  I don't know if I killed somebody.
• 26:38
  I don't know what happened, so my mind isn't in the right spot
• 26:41
  and I end up going by the girl's house and there's three police
• 26:45
  cars outside. Oh, okay.
• 26:47
  And as I drove by even though I'm in, I have three cars.
• 26:50
  I'm in just one of my random cars.
• 26:52
  I see one of our parents point to the car, like I don't know if
• 26:56
  they were saying that Tim or like that car doesn't belong in
• 26:59
  this neighborhood for what? Because I don't think they've
• 27:02
  ever seen this car before. And I circle around the block.
• 27:07
  The police end up chasing me. I get in a small speed chase my
• 27:11
  end up pulling over and they surround me and get me, you
• 27:15
  know, and I get arrested that night.
• 27:17
  What are you thinking on that all is coming down?
• 27:20
  And I mean it's I can't imagine the, the, the rush because
• 27:25
  you're already thinking that the hours before that you're
• 27:28
  cleaning everything out taking a shower thinking trying to
• 27:32
  connect with your girlfriend. Then all of a sudden boom,
• 27:34
  you're on the ground and they're arresting you.
• 27:36
  What's going through your mind? How am I going to get out of
• 27:39
  this situation? Just don't.
• 27:42
  So, I had already been in trouble, a couple of times
• 27:44
  before it is. I had already told her myself.
• 27:46
  Once I had already been told on before so I already knew at this
• 27:50
  point. This is criminal career to this
• 27:53
  one. Feels good.
• 27:54
  But oh yeah. Yeah of course, because I didn't
• 27:56
  know what happened. I didn't know if I killed
• 27:57
  somebody or what. And I just, you know, there's
• 27:59
  three cops at our house. So I'm thinking maybe something
• 28:01
  really serious happened there, transpired and I just, you know,
• 28:05
  I don't talk, you know, I don't say anything, I don't have My
• 28:08
  phone on me so you have no proof of calls, you have nothing, you
• 28:12
  really have. So I'm thinking well you don't
• 28:14
  have any evidence. You don't have any proof if I
• 28:16
  don't say anything, maybe I'll I'll get out of here.
• 28:19
  So what happens next? Do they lock me up?
• 28:22
  I go to the county jail while I'm entering the county jail.
• 28:26
  I actually saw the girl that I was dating at the time in the
• 28:30
  county jail as well. They separated us very quickly
• 28:33
  but I saw her in the booking facility.
• 28:37
  So apparently at The Establishment they ended up
• 28:40
  arresting her as well. They use that as leverage to get
• 28:45
  information out of her mother who didn't really know anything
• 28:49
  but ended up giving The police, my name, which then ended up,
• 28:53
  they use that to try to turn some other people.
• 28:56
  They ended up turning one other person who knew me at the place
• 28:59
  by saying that the girl told which she didn't, it was her
• 29:03
  mom, but then they lose the other girl who turned to turn
• 29:07
  her. So now I got two witnesses that
• 29:09
  say I was on site and I was the one doing the shooting.
• 29:12
  Well, so how long is all this take from that point forward to
• 29:16
  where you're standing in front of the judge and you're good So
• 29:22
  from that night, I never got out of the county jail.
• 29:24
  So since I was on probation and the State of Florida, the able
• 29:28
  to hold you without bond based upon the fact that you got
• 29:31
  arrested while you are on probation.
• 29:33
  Right? So they held me without bonds.
• 29:35
  I wasn't able to get out. I wasn't able to get a bomb from
• 29:37
  that night for it. I didn't get out of jail so I
• 29:39
  was in the county jail for close to a year.
• 29:42
  And before I did end up bleeding out I I was supposed to plead
• 29:46
  out to aggravated assault with a deadly weapon.
• 29:50
  The end up feeding me the first degree attempted murder, which,
• 29:54
  how that still arrived, I'm not sure, but that's what I ended up
• 29:58
  pleading out. I ended up receiving 10 years,
• 30:01
  mandatory day for day, Department of Correction, State
• 30:04
  of Florida and that, you know, when you're saying day-to-day,
• 30:08
  that means there's no good time. Like, you know, in the in the
• 30:11
  federal system, you get a 10-year sentence, you serve 84
• 30:13
  percent of that time. You're saying day to day 10
• 30:15
  years straight. Yes sir.
• 30:18
  Yep. Yep. 3,600.
• 30:20
  Today, it's a lot. It's a lot sooner.
• 30:23
  Help. What age are you Kyle?
• 30:25
  When you walk in to that, I just turned 21.
• 30:29
  Wow. So you walk in.
• 30:33
  Is this what type of facilities is a maximum facility?
• 30:37
  Yeah. So in the State of Florida, they
• 30:38
  don't actually have grades on their facilities, but they
• 30:40
  definitely do have according to your classification standards,
• 30:45
  or according to what type of violence they call it cm's.
• 30:49
  So, according To your classification, your control
• 30:52
  management. I was a level 4 so as high as it
• 30:55
  gets to the level 5, so they sent me to one of the highest
• 30:58
  grade facilities, which was Florida, State, Prison and
• 31:00
  Department of Corrections. It's where they actually house
• 31:02
  the death row inmates. So they still have the death
• 31:05
  penalty in the State of Florida. We only have one facility that
• 31:09
  actually performs. The death penalty is Florida
• 31:12
  State Prison. Fsp also tell me walking in is a
• 31:15
  21 year old. You're walking into the unknown
• 31:20
  Old of that type of prison, what's going through your mind.
• 31:24
  So I don't know what to expect, right.
• 31:27
  You know, the first time I really spent any time in jail
• 31:30
  was then, so, I had been arrested a few times before
• 31:33
  that, but only spent like one night in jail.
• 31:35
  Bonnie back out was put on probation.
• 31:37
  I had some juvenile stuff. Same, sort of deal arrested
• 31:41
  spent one night and jdc and then back out.
• 31:43
  So the first experience I ever had was with the county jail and
• 31:47
  Pinellas County, but the county jail and Analysis is rough in
• 31:52
  the county, jail and Pinellas. They do have different
• 31:54
  classifications for the type of crimes that you committed.
• 31:58
  And since I was a violent offender, I got put in a level
• 32:02
  for violent offender cells, so they hold that specifically for
• 32:07
  those people. And we have like, a lot of
• 32:09
  shootings, a lot of murder stuff like that.
• 32:11
  So I'm in the, in the cells with other murderers, you know?
• 32:16
  And those sorts of crimes, right?
• 32:18
  Robbery, aggravated battery with a deadly weapon.
• 32:20
  Been all that type of stuff so it was pretty rough already in
• 32:23
  the county jail. So it kind of got me spending a
• 32:27
  year and that got me ready and prepared for the Department of
• 32:31
  Corrections. Yeah, so before when I went into
• 32:34
  the county jail, I was very scared.
• 32:36
  You know, I didn't know what to expect, you know, but also
• 32:40
  because I was in the street life before I entered in and the hood
• 32:44
  in Pinellas County and st. Petersburg, it's mostly black
• 32:47
  right? And you know But at that time in
• 32:51
  my life, I don't want this to sound crazy, but you couldn't
• 32:54
  tell me that I wasn't black. Yeah.
• 32:55
  Right. I was very young and I was very
• 32:59
  entrenched and the hood culture I was very entrenched into the
• 33:02
  rap culture. I was very interesting to the
• 33:04
  drug lifestyle. I was you couldn't tell me I
• 33:08
  wasn't from the hood. A lot of my friends were black.
• 33:10
  I was hanging out in the hood. I was living in the hood, I love
• 33:12
  that type of Lifestyle. So when I went into the county
• 33:15
  jail, I ended up coming across a lot of people who either new
• 33:19
  people that I knew from. Neighborhoods that I was in or
• 33:22
  had heard of me from other people.
• 33:24
  Yeah. So it was still a rough
• 33:26
  scenario, but not as bad as what it might have been for some
• 33:29
  other people of my ethnicity who hadn't been living the lifestyle
• 33:33
  that I had been living for that period of time.
• 33:36
  And then also, as I stayed in the county jail longer,
• 33:41
  Switching pod to pod. People knew me from the other
• 33:44
  pod so then it became more acquainted and people oh yeah
• 33:47
  that's him. He was from over here and this
• 33:48
  and that. So it kind of got me accustomed
• 33:51
  to it. When I entered in the biggest
• 33:53
  struggle, I had with the Department of Corrections in the
• 33:56
  State of Florida, was they shipped us?
• 33:58
  So our state is like 11 or 12 hours long, right to get from
• 34:03
  the north to the south of Florida.
• 34:05
  Yeah, it's all it takes you about 10 or 11 hours.
• 34:09
  So I'm from the West Coast of Florida.
• 34:13
  I'm from Pinellas County. St.
• 34:14
  Petersburg is just west of Tampa st.
• 34:16
  Pete Clearwater. And our city is very Urban,
• 34:22
  right? So we're a very urban community.
• 34:24
  We have about a million people or a little, over a million
• 34:27
  people and a very small amount of land.
• 34:31
  So like if you guys know anything about Florida, if you
• 34:34
  know, Tampa Tampa is about three times.
• 34:36
  The size of us are four times the size of us Hillsborough
• 34:39
  County and they have two million people.
• 34:41
  So, there are bigger population than us, but they have four
• 34:44
  amount to land mass. So we're a very industrialized
• 34:47
  urbanized area. So when they, when they
• 34:51
  incarcerated me, they sent me all the way up to Florida State
• 34:54
  Prison, which is in It's almost in the Panhandle, okay?
• 35:01
  Right. And it's very country is very
• 35:06
  country. So, when I get up there, the
• 35:09
  biggest struggle for me, is one dealing with the officers
• 35:12
  because they're all very country, and I'm very city,
• 35:15
  right? Right.
• 35:16
  And then also, the population is very different.
• 35:20
  So since you have people shipped from all over our state, in this
• 35:24
  population, this is the first time that I've had that I can
• 35:27
  honestly, honestly say that. I Experience like real racism,
• 35:31
  so like you got white pride, you got white power, and then you
• 35:35
  got the Spanish and you got the black and you got the gangs and
• 35:38
  everything, very prominent in my area, you didn't really have
• 35:43
  that at the time it was more like neighborhoods and six like,
• 35:47
  you know. And so that was the biggest
• 35:50
  struggle for me was dealing with the guards and then find in my
• 35:53
  body of people. Because at that time, like I'm
• 35:57
  not into any of that, you know, So how did you integrate into
• 36:02
  that world? What what, what became your
• 36:06
  world in that primitive world? So, again, I have some of the
• 36:11
  experience based upon the fact I was in the county jail for a
• 36:14
  period of time. And, you know, I knew that like
• 36:19
  my people, right? So, when I was there, there was
• 36:24
  a decent group of people there that were from Pinellas County
• 36:27
  and from St, Pete Clearwater. And we had our own group of
• 36:31
  individuals that we would hang with, you know, but for a period
• 36:35
  of time, you just got to feel your way around.
• 36:37
  But because I had been in the county jail jail for an extended
• 36:40
  period of time and I had switched pause and stuff.
• 36:43
  I kind of was okay with I knew what to do, right?
• 36:48
  You keep your mouth shut for a while you observe you see who is
• 36:50
  who you kind of learn the population and you go from
• 36:53
  there. But it was still rough at first,
• 36:55
  like I had gotten three or four fights within my first time
• 36:59
  there. I spent a lot of time in
• 37:01
  confinement from either cussing, the guards out or not doing what
• 37:05
  they told me to do or just not following the rules and the
• 37:08
  regulations or Getting in a fight, carrying a weapon you
• 37:12
  know whatever it is you know I spent time in confinement for
• 37:14
  that. You should Kyle that you did
• 37:17
  some hard time coming into that. And the other thing that you
• 37:21
  said is that you early on and you know, two or three years
• 37:26
  into your sentence, you get into solitary confinement, can you
• 37:29
  kind of walk me through how that happened, what happened to you
• 37:31
  because you can't somewhat of a change in your mindset of what
• 37:36
  you were looking for, how you felt about yourself.
• 37:39
  And and reaching out, and somebody gave you a book to
• 37:42
  read. Yes, sir.
• 37:45
  Yeah. So while I was in the county
• 37:46
  jail, I was I was definitely going through it.
• 37:49
  You know, all of my I was losing all my possessions, just before
• 37:52
  I got incarcerated, I have purchased the house.
• 37:55
  You know, the cars had to go, you know, I had a bunch of
• 37:58
  people who owed me money that was trying to get collected, you
• 38:01
  know, none of my none of my so-called friends were really
• 38:04
  around. We were struggling with the
• 38:06
  lawyer, you know, it's a difficult time.
• 38:07
  Chasing that type of setting. No, and our state, the crime
• 38:11
  that I committed was punishable by up to life.
• 38:14
  So we got 1020 live. So use a gun 10 power gun, 20,
• 38:20
  or use a gun in a crime, 10 fire ground in the crime, 2020 up to
• 38:25
  life. I think so.
• 38:26
  A 1020 live. So, I was punishable by 20 years
• 38:28
  to life for the sentence that I was.
• 38:30
  I was looking at for first-degree attempted homicide
• 38:33
  and it was a very stressful time and I had a cell mate of mine,
• 38:38
  they called him little 21. And he was at this time in my
• 38:41
  life, he was somebody who I looked up to.
• 38:43
  I would, I would say it was like, oh gee, he was like, 23,
• 38:45
  24. There's like three or four years
• 38:47
  older than me, he had already been up the road once he had all
• 38:50
  go teeth in his mouth and he carried himself will write, so
• 38:54
  somebody who I respected. I called myself respecting him.
• 38:57
  And you know, he told me, he said, look man you know I know
• 39:01
  you don't want to do this. I know you think that this is
• 39:04
  not who you are but like, you know I lost my mom a year or so
• 39:08
  ago and oh, Person I have left is my mother is my sister and
• 39:12
  she put me on to this book, The Bible and man I'm telling you
• 39:16
  gave me some comfort in my time of need.
• 39:18
  And at that point I had tried opening it at Genesis and
• 39:21
  reading it, but it was like Japanese to me, you know.
• 39:25
  But from that day forward, I did try to read it just for the
• 39:29
  knowledge wisdom and understanding that could be
• 39:31
  gleaned from it. I figured at this point, you
• 39:33
  know, until then I was like, you know, look I know hypocrite, I
• 39:36
  wasn't, I wasn't a Schoolboy and I wasn't a church guy.
• 39:39
  Before I ever went in. So now that I'm in trouble, I'm
• 39:41
  not going to be turning to God, you know, I called myself,
• 39:44
  keeping it real, right? And it's like, you know, if I
• 39:46
  wasn't into this in the street now that I'm in trouble, I'm not
• 39:49
  going to get into it. But ultimately, I praise God, it
• 39:52
  and thank you little one for, for turning me on to the book
• 39:56
  that ultimately changed my life. And up to this point, I had been
• 39:59
  reading the Bible from that point forward, a little bit here
• 40:02
  and there but it had no real impact in my life.
• 40:05
  I couldn't really understand the scriptures.
• 40:07
  I had no knowledge or wisdom or Standing of of what the Bible
• 40:11
  was actually teaching me. So, let me back up a little bit,
• 40:14
  you know, for the first two and a half years, or three years of
• 40:17
  my incarceration, I think it was about the first two and a half
• 40:20
  years. I spent a year and a half of
• 40:21
  that, in solitary confinement. And I hit on this a little bit,
• 40:25
  but like, Every this was literally every month or two
• 40:30
  months, I was going into incarceration.
• 40:32
  For I was going under confinement or solitary for
• 40:35
  either 30 days, 60 days, 90 days at some point, 120 days, and I
• 40:40
  might get out at some points for a week, some points for two
• 40:43
  weeks and go back in based upon the fact that I did something.
• 40:47
  I wasn't supposed to do. I got into an argument with a
• 40:50
  guard. I cussed the guard out, I got
• 40:52
  into a fistfight, I got caught with a knife at one point, so
• 40:56
  just here and there Are I kept going in going out at one point
• 41:00
  when I go in for a 30-day stretch?
• 41:02
  So at the first facility, I was at Florida, State Prison.
• 41:05
  I ended up getting in enough trouble at that facility that I
• 41:08
  got a bad adjustment transfer. So they actually locked me up
• 41:12
  transferred me from that facility to another facility
• 41:15
  because I had caused enough chaos at that place that they're
• 41:17
  like is time to get him out of here and sent me to another
• 41:19
  facility. I went to another facility still
• 41:23
  was going in and out of out of confinement, I called a 30-day
• 41:26
  stretching confinement, while I was in there, I caught 60 more
• 41:28
  days. So while I'm in confinement, I
• 41:30
  get in trouble again, that's hard to wherever he is.
• 41:33
  Yeah, man. Well, I received 22 more
• 41:36
  stretchy, so I get in total, I'm doing 90 day stretch.
• 41:39
  Okay. It's a long diminish.
• 41:41
  Yeah, in this stretch just enough have been enough, you
• 41:44
  know, I had been in and out enough times, I had faced all
• 41:48
  these controversies in my life, all these difficult scenarios
• 41:51
  that I haven't. And touched on on this podcast.
• 41:55
  And, you know, my life was just broken.
• 41:57
  I was sick and tired of where Kyle was getting his life with
• 42:01
  Kyle and control. Yeah, you're worn out on being
• 42:04
  sick and tired of Kyle. I was worn out of driving and I
• 42:08
  literally kneel down at that point, man.
• 42:11
  Anybody who tells you you need some water to get saved, anybody
• 42:14
  who tells you, you need a specific environment and setting
• 42:17
  to receive Christ in their life, man.
• 42:19
  It's in the scriptures man. It's not just from Kyle man.
• 42:21
  There's there's two Journals on the cross is next to Christ.
• 42:24
  And he tells the one man. Today, you'll be with me in
• 42:26
  Paradise. There wasn't any water, there
• 42:28
  wasn't a pastor to anoint them. It was him and Jesus, man.
• 42:32
  And he said, you know, he said, you know, he told the other
• 42:36
  criminal, hey, you know, we rightly so belong on this cross
• 42:40
  but he does not. And Jesus invited him that day
• 42:45
  to join him in paradise. And, you know, that night I
• 42:49
  kneel down and I said, Lord, honestly, you know, it says in
• 42:53
  the word if you confess with your mouth and you believe in
• 42:55
  your heart you know a lot of people will tell you to see to
• 42:58
  say the sinner's prayer and you'll be saved.
• 43:00
  And man, you can say whatever you want out your mouth.
• 43:03
  If you don't believe it in your heart man, nothing's going to
• 43:05
  change, nothing's going to happen.
• 43:07
  And I got to the breaking point, man.
• 43:09
  And I kneel down that night, I said, Lord, you know, I'm tired,
• 43:13
  I'm tired of driving, you know, I'm tired of where I'm getting
• 43:16
  myself. I can't do this anymore on my
• 43:19
  own. I don't know if I'm going to
• 43:20
  make it out of this place alive, the way that I'm going, this is
• 43:24
  your rock bottom moment, really? That's it, brother, that's it.
• 43:27
  You know, the tenure incarceration.
• 43:29
  The face in the attempted murder, the losing the house is
• 43:33
  in the cars. None of that was enough.
• 43:37
  You know, I told you man. I'm a very hard-headed
• 43:39
  individual. Yeah.
• 43:40
  And I said earlier, on this podcast, a lot of the things
• 43:43
  that are my superpowers are also my kryptonite when I apply them
• 43:46
  in the wrong way and you know, I'm a hard-headed person, you
• 43:50
  know all these different scenarios and circumstances that
• 43:53
  you're hearing me go through on this podcast.
• 43:54
  None of these were enough for me to say enough is enough is
• 43:58
  enough until I really had enough well and, you know, from that,
• 44:02
  go ahead. Oh go ahead.
• 44:03
  I just go ahead and me. And break you off from that day.
• 44:06
  Forward, you know, my life was eternally change.
• 44:08
  You know, he did 180 degrees change and I don't like to beat
• 44:12
  up the, my salvation. You know, my company is named
• 44:14
  Redemption auto sales. For a reason.
• 44:16
  There's a crossing, my M, my logo for a reason, you know, I
• 44:20
  got a podcast called the value race.
• 44:22
  There's also a crossing, and that logo, and that's not an
• 44:25
  accident, you know, those aren't accidents.
• 44:27
  I, I told the Lord after I received Christ, I said from
• 44:31
  this point forward Lord, no matter what I do, no matter what
• 44:33
  success I receive. Matter what, what Mountaintop I
• 44:36
  reach, no matter what platforms, you put me on, no matter what
• 44:40
  stage is, I speak on Lord allow me to glorify and honor you and
• 44:43
  everything that I do and I like that.
• 44:45
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  know, you've said this a number of times Kyle and you get to a
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  point and you can take a left turn or a right turn.
• 46:20
  And at this point in your life, you decided I'm done with this
• 46:25
  path over here, I'm tired worn out.
• 46:28
  Its I don't even know how I'm going to make it.
• 46:30
  I might not make it and then you get inspired and really turn.
• 46:36
  Life over to God. Jesus your faith.
• 46:43
  How do you step forward from that?
• 46:45
  And what, how does your life change?
• 46:47
  Because you still got what's F 6 7 years in prison, right?
• 46:52
  Yeah, I still had like seven and a half years ago.
• 46:54
  Yes, sir. So how does your world change in
• 46:57
  there? Man, I know how we're going to
• 47:00
  talk about how it changed when you got out but how do you
• 47:02
  change? What you had seven years left?
• 47:06
  Yeah, yes, I started long stretch to go man.
• 47:08
  And you know, I lived in a negative behavior of negative
• 47:11
  lifestyle for a long period of time.
• 47:13
  And like you said, man, all of us have transitionary period of
• 47:15
  Our Lives that we can look back on and say, you know, this was a
• 47:20
  make-or-break moment. This is what changed my life for
• 47:22
  the better. This is what changed my life for
• 47:24
  the better for the worst and it's all on how we view.
• 47:27
  It's all on our perspective and then, And it's what we do with
• 47:29
  those times, no seasons in those situations in our lives.
• 47:33
  And when I you know, at that point of period of my life, I
• 47:36
  knew that I was messed up and I knew that I needed a lot of help
• 47:40
  and I knew that if anything was going to change your my life I
• 47:42
  had to start. I had to start doing the work
• 47:44
  to, you know, in the Bible that says faith without works is
• 47:47
  dead. I believe that we have to give
• 47:49
  it over to the almighty, God. But we also have to be willing
• 47:51
  to do the work for ourselves. Right?
• 47:53
  Right. And, you know, there's a lot of
• 47:56
  people who are inside and they'll be like, oh, I receive
• 47:58
  So I'm good. Nice try, bro.
• 48:00
  Well you better go grab a book, you better go study man.
• 48:03
  You better educate yourself to the best of your ability.
• 48:05
  You better go work your body, you know, I got a four pillar
• 48:07
  pattern of life that I believe in and it's Mind, Body, Spirit
• 48:10
  soul, and I found that Foundation when I was
• 48:13
  incarcerated and a lot of those same patterns and habits those
• 48:16
  rituals and routines, that I applied, when I was inside of
• 48:19
  the same things that I'm applying out here to be
• 48:20
  successful. And, you know, with those four
• 48:23
  pillars, you got to touch one of those pillars each.
• 48:25
  And every day, you got to be working on your mind, you gotta
• 48:28
  be working on your ADI. You got to be working on your
• 48:30
  spirit. You got to be working on your
• 48:31
  soul, I like it. And if you're not contributing
• 48:34
  to each one of those patterns every single day, you're not
• 48:36
  going to have a well-rounded life, get out.
• 48:38
  You know how exactly you got to keep that alignment with your
• 48:42
  purpose, with your creation. What you're destined for with
• 48:45
  what your gifts are and you got to be waking up each and every
• 48:48
  day willing to serve, ready to serve willing to work on
• 48:50
  yourself, more than you work on other people and then feeding
• 48:53
  into other people's lives. What you have received into your
• 48:55
  life. So I talked about the first
• 48:57
  Mentor that I had in my life. Who is the individual, who
• 49:00
  taught me the first entrepreneurship lessons that I
• 49:02
  had? And after I received Christ, I
• 49:05
  met my second mentors. Name was Brother, Art name is
• 49:08
  Arthur Hughes. He's still serving a life
• 49:10
  sentence in Department of Corrections State of Florida.
• 49:12
  I pray that ultimately you have some appeals in maybe one day,
• 49:15
  they'll let him out. I pray to God, they do because
• 49:17
  if I've ever met a warrior for faith, if I've ever met a
• 49:21
  warrior for Christ, it's him. And man this guy he would walk
• 49:27
  around with with dictionaries in his pocket with Bibles, in his
• 49:32
  pocket, with Atlas is in his pocket, studying researching
• 49:35
  educated pulling people out of gang and I ended up to just
• 49:39
  stumble across this guy. And in the dormitory that I was
• 49:42
  released into out of that confinement, stretch, and we
• 49:45
  ended up building a short-term relationship.
• 49:47
  I literally lasted three days, guys, listen to this, I got
• 49:49
  saved. I did 90 days and incarceration
• 49:52
  in confinement. I got saved.
• 49:54
  A miraculous delivery in Christ. I got out, I was out three days
• 49:58
  and I was back in confinement. But God knows what he's doing.
• 50:07
  Yeah. You know, my brother in my
• 50:09
  podcast, my co-host in the podcast, he says a lot man, God
• 50:13
  knows what he's doing and God knew what he was doing that day.
• 50:15
  He allowed me to be released into that.
• 50:17
  Dormitory met brother Arthur Hughes made.
• 50:20
  It three days and was back in confinement for another 30 days,
• 50:23
  stretch, but I had met Arthur Hughes.
• 50:25
  And that's what I needed to do. So as I'm in confinement,
• 50:28
  because of the Port, Arthur Hughes had at that facility, he
• 50:31
  was able to actually come visit. Me in confinement.
• 50:33
  Don't send me some books, send me some letters, send me some
• 50:37
  food and stuff like that. I actually had to do a PSI on a
• 50:40
  compound on brother ought to use, because in my mind said,
• 50:44
  and my attitude, at that time, I'm like now, who the hell is
• 50:46
  this, dude? I don't even know him like that.
• 50:48
  You know? He's going to me food back here.
• 50:49
  Like, I don't want to eat the food, you know, because I don't
• 50:52
  know the guy at the time, like, I'm not gonna be up to
• 50:54
  something. No good, you know?
• 50:56
  And and all of the references I got it like nah man, he's an OG
• 50:59
  that's that's real. He, he must have seen something
• 51:02
  in you and he Feed into you, there is no alternative
• 51:06
  alternate, there's no alternative source of method
• 51:10
  that he's trying to get to, you know, that's just who he is.
• 51:12
  So I'm like, I and I found out he was in there for murder.
• 51:16
  He was an old G on the street. He carried himself.
• 51:19
  Well, he's a stand-up guy of a man of Faith, but also, a man of
• 51:23
  action inside Department of Corrections, you know, and he's
• 51:26
  the man, he's the first individual that I really can
• 51:28
  say, showed me how to put the faith in the practice.
• 51:30
  Like I met people before I have people in my Circles friends
• 51:35
  mothers who were saved and stuff like that.
• 51:37
  But this is the first guy who I can really say walked in the
• 51:40
  steps of Jesus, like, reaching back.
• 51:42
  Another fire to pull people out, you know, unashamedly
• 51:45
  representing Christ in the world.
• 51:47
  You know, was Meek and humble and yet still at the same time,
• 51:50
  held a backbone, and people wouldn't walk over him and, and,
• 51:53
  and hold himself with ethics and morals and values.
• 51:55
  And then, let anybody treads on that and at the same time, like
• 51:58
  don't cross me with the wrong way, because you're not just
• 52:01
  going to get over on me. And you know, Jesus operated in
• 52:06
  that same standard, he was very Meek.
• 52:08
  Humble loving caring, giving them the shirt off his back,
• 52:11
  washing his Apostles feet. But at the same time when he
• 52:14
  was, when people were not living up to the standards that God
• 52:17
  said, he jumped on the paper tables with a whip and whip the
• 52:20
  people up out of the synagogue, getting them out of there.
• 52:22
  He was not afraid to represent what he knew.
• 52:25
  The calling of God was and is how brother Arthur Hughes was.
• 52:29
  And he was in a visual man, the strongest leader I ever met.
• 52:34
  Man, he didn't leave with words, he led with actions.
• 52:36
  He didn't tell you what to do, he showed you and then he led
• 52:39
  you in the correct this direction to where you could
• 52:41
  make the decisions for yourself. So like that's real leadership.
• 52:45
  Leadership isn't telling somebody what to do guys?
• 52:48
  Yeah, leadership is guiding somebody in the direction that
• 52:50
  they ought to go and allowing them to make the decision for
• 52:52
  themselves. Exactly.
• 52:55
  So I guess I'm thinking that that helps you eat up your time.
• 53:00
  With the whole different mindset of how you were tackling
• 53:04
  yourself and mind-body. Everything that you were talking
• 53:08
  about that that you had to just felt different and you probably
• 53:14
  hung around with different people and and did your time
• 53:17
  differently. Everything changed at that
• 53:20
  point, guys, up to that point. I was very bitter.
• 53:22
  I was angry, I was Disturbed. I was grieving I blamed
• 53:28
  everybody else but myself Victim people, but I was a victim.
• 53:32
  I had a very had a massive victim mindset if everybody
• 53:35
  else's fault, but mine, it's my parents fault.
• 53:37
  Yeah, it's my ex-girlfriends fault, it's her mom's fault, is
• 53:41
  the people who told on me for, it's the people who approach me
• 53:44
  in the bars fault. Everybody bought me.
• 53:47
  And I always know what they always say to Kyle.
• 53:49
  When somebody talks about, you know, because it's easy to
• 53:52
  blame. I mean, we're in a blaming
• 53:53
  Society, right? Everybody's a victim.
• 53:56
  But, you know, there's such there's there's a true
• 53:59
  difference between a Amanda Survivor.
• 54:01
  And once you grasp on that you're surviving this, you're
• 54:04
  stepping forward with this, you're overcoming this.
• 54:07
  That's a whole different field than being pointing fingers and,
• 54:10
  you know, it takes away all your strength and you end up in a, in
• 54:14
  a, you know, fetal position in the corner and you can't exactly
• 54:18
  take on life, but you you're stepping through it.
• 54:21
  Now, as a Survivor, that's going to take on responsibility to
• 54:25
  move forward, and I think that that's a huge thing as far as
• 54:29
  who's transitioning. Every period man and it's goes
• 54:31
  for the same thing for anybody who's listening to this.
• 54:33
  Whether you've been incarcerated or not, if you're living in a
• 54:36
  victim mindset right now, you're incarcerated in the status of
• 54:39
  your own minds, right? Whether it be in that
• 54:41
  relationship that you're in, whether it be in that career or
• 54:44
  or form of employment, whether it be in some friendship
• 54:46
  circles, that you don't belong in.
• 54:48
  If you're blaming, everybody else, you're in the
• 54:50
  incarceration of your own mind. Yeah.
• 54:52
  Prisoners. When you're, when you're living
• 54:54
  in that victim mindset, man. It's a very heavy burden to bear
• 54:58
  and when I was able to accept her, Responsibility for the
• 55:01
  accountability, take the ownership of the things that I
• 55:05
  was responsible for that was when the transition occurred in.
• 55:08
  I was able to look at my incarceration, not as a
• 55:11
  punishment, but the opportunity. And when I began to look at it
• 55:14
  as an opportunity, everything began to transition, everything
• 55:17
  began to change. I instead of looking at my
• 55:19
  release date, I started focusing on my push-up and I use that
• 55:23
  terminology a lot because in the Department of Corrections, they
• 55:26
  talked about doing your time and not letting your time do you.
• 55:28
  That's right. And there's a lot of people out
• 55:31
  here in the Free World, who are doing that, who are not doing
• 55:34
  their time, but they're allowing their time to do them.
• 55:37
  They're at work right now, they're focusing on 5:00 when
• 55:39
  they could punch out and go live their life instead of looking at
• 55:42
  what they can possibly contributing to Society.
• 55:44
  At that time, living up to the utmost of their ability with the
• 55:47
  opportunity that they have. That's right in front of them
• 55:50
  contributing to it with the absolute maximum capacity so
• 55:54
  they could actually get fulfillment out of that job.
• 55:56
  I've done a point out of this world.
• 55:57
  We can get enjoyment out of flipping fries the same way.
• 56:00
  You get enjoyment out of flipping cars.
• 56:01
  That's right. It just the way that you
• 56:02
  perceive that. I tell people a lot man.
• 56:05
  Do you think that I woke up one day and said that cows purpose
• 56:09
  is to be the absolute best car dealer that he can be.
• 56:11
  Yeah. That never came across my mind
• 56:15
  when I received Christ, I knew that it was up to my
• 56:17
  responsibilities, according to the calling that God placed upon
• 56:20
  me to be the best human that I could be every single day and to
• 56:23
  use every opportunity that he provided me, to give him honor
• 56:26
  and shine him glory. And how I do that is by using
• 56:29
  the opportunities and gifts that he provided me, which is life,
• 56:32
  breath and health itself, you know, every day you know you
• 56:35
  wake up every day just expecting that you're going to wake up
• 56:38
  tomorrow, right? That's not the case man.
• 56:41
  There's a lot of people who didn't wake up today.
• 56:42
  There's a lot of people when I woke up this morning and they're
• 56:45
  not alive right now. Yeah okay.
• 56:47
  We have to live up to our fullest potential every moment
• 56:50
  that we're alive and that's why I have enjoyment.
• 56:53
  That's why I have purpose that's why I live in my gift.
• 56:55
  That's why I have fulfillment. Because I wake up every single
• 56:58
  day no matter what position I'm And then I do it to the absolute
• 57:01
  best of my ability, and not living within my gift, and my
• 57:03
  potential in my purpose. Let's talk about when you start
• 57:07
  getting close to the door, get getting that out of this.
• 57:10
  10-year day-to-day a hard ten that you did.
• 57:15
  What are you thinking? As far as getting out, what's
• 57:18
  going through your mind? So, I knew like, when I received
• 57:21
  Christ, I knew, like I said that I was messed up.
• 57:23
  So I knew I had to do everything that I could at that point to
• 57:27
  make sure that if I wanted something different than I had,
• 57:30
  We've done up to that point. I had to do something different.
• 57:32
  Right, Albert, Einstein the famous quote, you know, doing
• 57:35
  the same thing. And expecting a different result
• 57:37
  is the definition of insanity, right?
• 57:40
  So I knew that like I had to do something different.
• 57:43
  Praise God. I met Arthur Hughes.
• 57:45
  He started. He sent me a book called Rich
• 57:47
  Dad, Poor Dad to absolutely transition and trains my life.
• 57:51
  Yeah, so but I tell people, besides the Bible, the most
• 57:55
  influential book that I ever received was Rich Dad, Poor Dad
• 57:58
  because it is the first business book.
• 58:00
  I ever read. There's a quote in Rich Dad,
• 58:02
  Poor Dad, that he talks about having so many different ways to
• 58:06
  make money legally, that he can't fathom how people risk
• 58:10
  their lives to make money illegally.
• 58:12
  Yeah. And that's one quote out of the
• 58:13
  book that really transition my thought pattern because I said
• 58:17
  man all I was doing was risking my life to receive financial
• 58:23
  reward and it never really fulfilled any purpose or destiny
• 58:27
  in my life. Like I still felt empty.
• 58:29
  There was a point. My life before I became
• 58:31
  incarcerated that I went to my mother and tears with a bunch of
• 58:33
  money in a Ziploc bag. And I said, Mom, you know, it
• 58:39
  was probably like 30 40 thousand dollars in cash.
• 58:41
  I'm 20 years old, 19 years old. And I'm in tears because I'm
• 58:45
  saying my mom, literally risking my life, I realized that I was
• 58:49
  risking my life to make money to spend money with people who had
• 58:52
  billions of dollars on buying Jordans, I'm buying jewelry.
• 58:55
  You know, I said, I can't even keep my water on without this
• 58:58
  right here. Yeah.
• 58:59
  And I don't have any other way to make this besides risking my
• 59:03
  life, like I couldn't see any way out.
• 59:04
  So I saw that. That's why you thought I saw.
• 59:08
  I saw the disillusionment and it before I was ever incarcerated,
• 59:11
  but I had got to such a status and that type of behavior step
• 59:14
  pattern and lifestyle that I couldn't see any way out.
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  It was the only thing that I knew in my mind.
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  So when I received this quote from Rich Dad, Poor Dad, a
• 59:23
  completely through that light bulb to where I said, okay, now
• 59:26
  I need to figure out different ways, different methods,
• 59:28
  different techniques to make this money financially and I
• 59:31
  drove into personal development, education, Spiritual
• 59:35
  Development, Element mentorship leadership, guidance.
• 59:39
  So I had a mentor and a mentor. Help teachers protégées how to
• 59:44
  Mentor. That's so he encouraged us to
• 59:47
  take, you know, he would talk about a three pillar
• 59:51
  relationship pattern which is yours got to have relationships
• 59:53
  with people above you. You always got to have
• 59:55
  relationships with people on your same level and you always
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  got to have relationships with people beneath you pulling them
• 1:00:00
  up and when you're operating in that sort of standard, you're
• 1:00:03
  living a fulfilled life. Because you're receiving from
• 1:00:06
  those people who are before you, you're sharing information with
• 1:00:09
  people who are on the same path as you and your in your passing
• 1:00:12
  down the in. Nation to the people who are
• 1:00:14
  underneath you helping to pull them up.
• 1:00:15
  I love that. And when I dedicated my life for
• 1:00:18
  the rest of my incarceration in that mindset, the four pillar
• 1:00:21
  pattern of Mind Body Spirit. So, every single day, focusing
• 1:00:25
  on the push-up, not the release date, focusing on what I could
• 1:00:29
  add back into the society and the contribution focusing on
• 1:00:32
  what I could receive from the people who had before me.
• 1:00:35
  I worked by patterns all the time that I was there.
• 1:00:39
  So that when I was released, I had to add back into the society
• 1:00:43
  and had an opportunity to succeed.
• 1:00:45
  You're ready. You had planned for it and and
• 1:00:48
  educate yourself. So, talk is talk us about how,
• 1:00:51
  how you got to where you are right now as if I know what I
• 1:00:56
  know, what dragon out, I'm trying to.
• 1:00:58
  I'm long-winded, guys. I'm sorry, man.
• 1:01:00
  I just can't stop talk. I can't talk.
• 1:01:02
  Yeah, you know. So when I was released, I had
• 1:01:05
  did. All the prep is so hard, man,
• 1:01:07
  because when you're going over such a long period of your life
• 1:01:09
  is literally going over from the time of your childhood through,
• 1:01:13
  Difficult scenarios of your life into the incarceration, out the
• 1:01:16
  other side to the success now that you currently have there,
• 1:01:18
  so many things that are getting passed over the little nugget
• 1:01:21
  that you want to share with people.
• 1:01:23
  Yeah, and it's just hard to pass over them but let me dig into
• 1:01:27
  it. So when I was released man I was
• 1:01:28
  I was I was fortunate enough that my parents as 31 years old,
• 1:01:33
  I got incarcerated at 21. I did 10 Years.
• 1:01:35
  Day for day, I was 31 years old when I was released.
• 1:01:38
  My parents allowed me to move back in with them rent-free
• 1:01:43
  Okay. I had received waste water
• 1:01:45
  drinking water license for the State of Florida.
• 1:01:47
  While I was incarcerated, studied on my own, they didn't
• 1:01:50
  provide me the materials. My parents did my parents paid
• 1:01:53
  for the State education Board Test that we took I was
• 1:01:58
  fortunate enough at my last three years of incarceration to
• 1:02:01
  be at a facility that they actually had a Wastewater plan
• 1:02:04
  on site. Awesome.
• 1:02:06
  God opened up the doors for me to be able to work that
• 1:02:08
  facility. So I got my training hours.
• 1:02:10
  I was released three weeks out. My mom actually.
• 1:02:12
  Actually did the application online for me because I
• 1:02:15
  couldn't. Even at that point I had been so
• 1:02:18
  out of the loop, sure that I do it.
• 1:02:20
  I didn't even couldn't even use a phone hadn't seen a phone.
• 1:02:24
  You know, there was no such thing as a smart phone before I
• 1:02:26
  was in cars, 10 years long time and um, got it got a job city of
• 1:02:33
  Clearwater but did didn't you have a situation where they
• 1:02:36
  didn't automatically just take you, because you had your record
• 1:02:40
  and you had to fight with that? Yes, we actually did yesterday.
• 1:02:45
  I actually did three interviews with me Common Center for the
• 1:02:48
  municipality of cities. Clear water has to do one,
• 1:02:50
  right? But, you know, I'm well-spoken.
• 1:02:52
  I know how to speak. I know how to carry myself.
• 1:02:55
  I went in there with a tie, you know, dressed up nice shoes and,
• 1:02:59
  you know, I spoke myself into the interview process plus, I
• 1:03:02
  had been doing the job for three and a half years and
• 1:03:05
  incarceration. And I spent so much time,
• 1:03:07
  studying the books, taking all the tests I had already passed
• 1:03:11
  the class. Be be test, which is the It's
• 1:03:16
  not just the entry level, it's like the midsole and the State
• 1:03:19
  of Florida, you have class, C Class, B, Class, A and takes
• 1:03:22
  five years to get an A, it takes two years to get a b and you
• 1:03:26
  have to have a year of hours to get a c.
• 1:03:28
  So I had the class C but I already had the be test pass
• 1:03:32
  with the state of Florida. So I had the education, I have
• 1:03:35
  the, I had the knowledge, but when they sent it to human
• 1:03:37
  relations to hire me, they like, man, this guy just got out of
• 1:03:41
  the Department of Corrections for first-degree homicide
• 1:03:44
  attempt, like we can't hire this guy.
• 1:03:47
  And the guy actually liked me so much.
• 1:03:49
  He fought with human relations to bring me on.
• 1:03:51
  And they said, well, do another interview.
• 1:03:53
  He did another interview, I showed up the same person, you
• 1:03:57
  know, not high, not drunk, well-spoken well-put-together,
• 1:04:01
  same knowledge, you went back to him again, they still said no,
• 1:04:05
  they said do another interview with the director of utilities
• 1:04:09
  so they actually called me another time and for a third
• 1:04:11
  time with the director of the entire utilities department for
• 1:04:14
  the city of Clearwater, this guy is the man a juror over 5 over
• 1:04:18
  400 employees and they made me sit down with.
• 1:04:22
  Everybody was like 7 people in this room.
• 1:04:25
  And they act, they started acting like it was a normal
• 1:04:28
  interview. Then they sat me down.
• 1:04:29
  They said, listen Kyle. We want you to know that we
• 1:04:32
  liked you the first time we like to the second time, but we know
• 1:04:35
  about your incarceration, we know about your record and
• 1:04:37
  that's why you're here for a third time.
• 1:04:40
  And how are, you know, this is like a high school.
• 1:04:42
  Said, how are you going to handle this when this comes out?
• 1:04:44
  My said, listen guys. I did those things.
• 1:04:48
  I can't cover that up. I know that I did it, but at the
• 1:04:51
  same time, I spend a lot of time working on myself to become the
• 1:04:54
  individual, who I am. I know that people are going to
• 1:04:57
  judge me according to my past experiences, and the things that
• 1:05:01
  I've committed in my life. But that's not who I currently
• 1:05:03
  am. And that's not how I'm going to
• 1:05:04
  show up for you guys today. I hope that people can judge me
• 1:05:08
  based upon the activity that I put forth today, the effort that
• 1:05:12
  I put forth today the knowledge wisdom and understanding that I
• 1:05:14
  put forth today to empathy that I put forth today, but if they
• 1:05:17
  don't that's fine as well. I understand that there's going
• 1:05:20
  to be people that are going to hold my past activity.
• 1:05:22
  My past actions aren't against me and that's fine.
• 1:05:25
  I don't hold that against them. I'm just going to continue to
• 1:05:28
  conduct myself in the same way that I know how.
• 1:05:30
  And ultimately I believe this is some one of my my true
• 1:05:33
  foundational beliefs that I believe that when your Full of
• 1:05:37
  character and conduct. When you hold yourself above
• 1:05:40
  board and you continue to carry yourself on your principles,
• 1:05:44
  your morals and your epic ultimately, those same people
• 1:05:47
  who judge you, according to your past, they're gonna come around
• 1:05:50
  based upon your character, your moral, and and your principles
• 1:05:53
  that you can see the carry yourself on because they're
• 1:05:55
  going to see that you're not altering and that you're not
• 1:05:57
  changing and that is not an act that it's real.
• 1:05:59
  Well, the reason I wanted to bring that up is because this
• 1:06:02
  this podcast goes into 235 prisons and I wanted them to
• 1:06:06
  know That? Yes, it's really hard on
• 1:06:09
  re-entry and you've got to be prepared for re-entry, and
• 1:06:12
  you're going to carry that with you in any interview, go into.
• 1:06:14
  But you didn't give up on those interviews.
• 1:06:17
  You you kept fighting for the person, you were to show them
• 1:06:21
  the change that you had made and you got that job.
• 1:06:25
  And there's another huge thing that I want to tell you guys who
• 1:06:27
  are incarcerated, man. There's a, there's a huge
• 1:06:30
  misalignment in the Department of Corrections that people want
• 1:06:33
  to blame other people for judging them for their
• 1:06:35
  incarceration. Like brother, how can you blame
• 1:06:38
  somebody else for judging you according to the activities that
• 1:06:41
  you took part in, right? They don't have any
• 1:06:44
  responsibility to judge you. According to who you are, now,
• 1:06:46
  you have the, you have the responsibility to take ownership
• 1:06:49
  and accountability of the activities that you took part in
• 1:06:52
  then and then prove yourself on the other side.
• 1:06:55
  Like I used to tell friends of mine man, I told you beginning,
• 1:06:58
  I had a lot of friends and our community down south man.
• 1:07:01
  It's a big thing to put a lot of gold teeth in your mouth, and I
• 1:07:04
  had a lot of friends with about for the golds and they wanted
• 1:07:06
  it. Get on it and to have a
• 1:07:07
  law-abiding position and job. And I said, you know, the first
• 1:07:10
  thing that somebody's going to look at is your mouth.
• 1:07:13
  And I said, you know, you can't pass judgment on somebody
• 1:07:15
  because they perceive according to what they see in front of
• 1:07:19
  them. That they believe that according
• 1:07:22
  to that standard, that you're going to conduct yourself a
• 1:07:24
  certain way. It's up to you to prove them
• 1:07:26
  different, right? Just like my friends who are
• 1:07:29
  tattooed from neck down to their feet.
• 1:07:31
  You put those tattoos on your body, nobody made.
• 1:07:33
  You put that on yourself. You can't judge somebody else
• 1:07:35
  because they judge you according to the things that you did to
• 1:07:39
  yourself. It's up to you to prove to them
• 1:07:42
  that these things don't Define me and make me that it's my
• 1:07:44
  conduct in my character and my attitude.
• 1:07:46
  That does that's powerful. I want to go in.
• 1:07:50
  Into how in the world did Redemption Auto come around.
• 1:07:55
  So I started working for the city of Clearwater.
• 1:07:57
  I had a buddy of mine who was buying and selling a few cars on
• 1:08:00
  the side. He was a license Automotive
• 1:08:02
  dealer, good friend of mine, I owe him the world because then
• 1:08:06
  he allowed me to come up and take two lids and lineage up on
• 1:08:09
  him. Just like I had a mentor before.
• 1:08:11
  Just like I had a mentor while I was incarcerated.
• 1:08:13
  He mentored me for the beginning standards and kind of showed me
• 1:08:17
  what he was doing. And I just kind of picked it up
• 1:08:19
  and ran There. I was, I was working full-time
• 1:08:22
  for the city of Clearwater. Giving them 100 hours over two
• 1:08:25
  weeks wall in all my spare time, chasing him around to the
• 1:08:28
  auction, seeing what he was doing, trying to contribute to
• 1:08:31
  his business, to the best of my ability and learning for him
• 1:08:34
  every step of the way and I started buying and selling cars
• 1:08:38
  under his license. It started getting the way.
• 1:08:41
  I was flipping 23 cars a week or month and he just said, man, he
• 1:08:45
  was running a small operations, his wife was doing all of his
• 1:08:48
  bookkeeping, it was just a small shop with him and Dad.
• 1:08:50
  And my cars were being stored there and it's just like listen
• 1:08:53
  man, you're doing too many cars. It's too much paperwork.
• 1:08:55
  You're taking up too much of our space, like it's time for you to
• 1:08:58
  do your own thing. And you know there was a piece
• 1:09:02
  of me that felt like he might have thought that I wasn't going
• 1:09:05
  to continue doing it. Like maybe I was kind of getting
• 1:09:07
  in his way but there is also a piece of me.
• 1:09:13
  That thought that, you know, maybe he just felt like it was
• 1:09:16
  time for me to go out on his own and whenever you have a mentor
• 1:09:19
  in your life like you know what, there's going to come that
• 1:09:22
  moment you hear about it, a lot that they're going to kick the
• 1:09:25
  the chicken out of the nest, right there going to keep the
• 1:09:27
  chicks out of the nest and regardless of what their thought
• 1:09:31
  pattern on. Is it on it is it's up to you
• 1:09:34
  with what you do with it. You can allow that to be a
• 1:09:37
  stumbling block. Again, lame them blame everybody
• 1:09:40
  else. Play a victim or You know, you
• 1:09:44
  tighten up your bootstraps, you put your big-boy pants on any,
• 1:09:47
  run the play, and all of us have the ability to run the play.
• 1:09:51
  Man, that's up to you. Are you going to be tenacious?
• 1:09:53
  Are you going to be intense? Are you going to have the
• 1:09:54
  passion? Do you got the drive?
• 1:09:56
  Do you got the urgency to put that into practice and to put
• 1:09:59
  that in the activity and to live it out?
• 1:10:01
  Are you going to allow these dreams and visions and
• 1:10:03
  aspirations that you have for your life to Fall by the wayside
• 1:10:06
  because you're going to remain in your zone of comfort and you
• 1:10:09
  don't know any? I always I was talked about this
• 1:10:12
  Kyle don't want to be that 85 year old rocking on the rocking
• 1:10:15
  chair and saying man I wish I was in the game and you stood on
• 1:10:17
  the sidelines the whole time and that's too late.
• 1:10:20
  Yeah, I mean, did this life is to be lived, you know, these
• 1:10:23
  dreams are to be lived out there, not to be left on the
• 1:10:25
  stand and the, your life, you know.
• 1:10:27
  None of us are taking it with us man, but I live every single
• 1:10:31
  day. I think the other thing that's
• 1:10:32
  that is a huge nugget that you're giving people as every
• 1:10:36
  step of the way that you're humbling yourself.
• 1:10:38
  Looking for mentors that can lead you into more.
• 1:10:43
  Knowledge. And you take that knowledge and
• 1:10:44
  take action, that's such a big thing for anybody at any stage
• 1:10:48
  of their life. There's always answers out
• 1:10:50
  there. There's always people that you
• 1:10:51
  can learn from. If you humble yourself, look for
• 1:10:54
  it and then go ask a man, how you getting this, right?
• 1:10:57
  Let me figure this out too. So good.
• 1:10:59
  So good, man. There's so many people and it's
• 1:11:01
  not just looking for the information man.
• 1:11:03
  You hit on a key element. It's not just looking for the
• 1:11:06
  information is put it in a putting it into action.
• 1:11:08
  Yes. Right.
• 1:11:09
  So there's a lot of people You know, who do a lot of
• 1:11:13
  masterminds. I'm a member of the art, a
• 1:11:15
  Syndicate member of the real business owners Mastermind,
• 1:11:18
  members of a small group called The Warriors for Christ.
• 1:11:21
  But it's like, you're not just going to these places to glean,
• 1:11:24
  you're going to serve. Yeah.
• 1:11:26
  You're going to add value and whatever ability that you can
• 1:11:29
  and you're making sure that you're applying the information
• 1:11:32
  that you receive from these people in your life on a daily
• 1:11:34
  basis so that they can see that you're putting in an action,
• 1:11:37
  right? Like if you have a mentor in
• 1:11:38
  your life and they see that they're giving you information
• 1:11:41
  that you're not apply. Why they're going to stop giving
• 1:11:43
  you information. Yeah.
• 1:11:45
  So was it easy to get this dealership license?
• 1:11:49
  You know, nothing's easy, man. Not, you know, my mom used to
• 1:11:53
  tell me man, I said it's cool to light a lot.
• 1:11:55
  Is that nothing worthwhile in life is easy and most likely if
• 1:11:57
  it's easy in life, it's not worthwhile.
• 1:11:59
  That's right. And, you know, everybody thinks
• 1:12:01
  that like this business is easy, that business is easy.
• 1:12:04
  Breeding, dogs is easy. Real estate is easy Running.
• 1:12:06
  A Restaurant is easy, selling. Cars is easy.
• 1:12:08
  It's like people think that this is just sweet, you know?
• 1:12:12
  I In the State of Florida, they make you actually rent your
• 1:12:15
  location before you can ever apply for your license.
• 1:12:19
  They make you do it backwards. They tell you not to do it but
• 1:12:21
  nobody's going to hold a commercial Leasing Property for
• 1:12:25
  you for months on end. Without you putting any money
• 1:12:27
  down and me being a convicted felon.
• 1:12:29
  And there was a lot of people who told me that I wouldn't be
• 1:12:32
  able to receive the license. I don't just got like a small
• 1:12:35
  cry. I got a first degree.
• 1:12:37
  Homicide attempt. Yeah so like there was a lot of
• 1:12:39
  people that said based upon the egregiousness of my criminal
• 1:12:43
  activity like they won't give me the license, right?
• 1:12:46
  But praise God, man in the Bible that says God is going to open
• 1:12:48
  up doors for you? That no man can close and he's
• 1:12:50
  going to close doors for you, that no man can open.
• 1:12:52
  And he kicked that door slap open for me, and when you put
• 1:12:56
  put you no faith without works is dead.
• 1:12:58
  When you take that faith and your belief in yourself and your
• 1:13:01
  belief and what God has called you to do, in your belief, in
• 1:13:03
  your gifts, and your talents, and your belief that showing up
• 1:13:06
  every single day, is your value into the world.
• 1:13:09
  You know, in our, in our podcast we believe that it's About any
• 1:13:13
  end destination is about the purpose of pursuing, the
• 1:13:16
  journey. Every single day when you're
• 1:13:18
  showing up in faith, understanding that is not about
• 1:13:20
  to end up the nation. That's about what you do today.
• 1:13:22
  I'm doing what I can do today and I'm Allowing God to take
• 1:13:25
  care of the rest. Yep.
• 1:13:27
  And when you're showing up in that man oh man he's going to
• 1:13:29
  open up those doors for you so that you can have those
• 1:13:31
  platforms. Ultimately the point people back
• 1:13:33
  up to him just like coming on his podcast today.
• 1:13:36
  Travis Richey introduced us to podcast that I have the value
• 1:13:39
  race. He has opened up so many doors
• 1:13:42
  for me. So that I can ultimately tell
• 1:13:44
  him. My story, add value back into
• 1:13:46
  the world and ultimately Point people up to him.
• 1:13:48
  Hey guys, there is nothing different about me, right?
• 1:13:51
  I'm a guy who dropped out in ninth grade sld, they try to put
• 1:13:55
  me in a motion, only handicap, classic classes, 10 years
• 1:13:58
  incarceration. My story is probably a lot worse
• 1:14:00
  than most of yours. Yeah.
• 1:14:01
  And yet, I stand here today with a company that did 2.2 million
• 1:14:05
  dollars last year, we're on production to do four and a half
• 1:14:08
  million this year already. We had the best months that
• 1:14:11
  we've ever had last year. Doing 30 units for a total
• 1:14:14
  profit of 85,000 dollars. And one month 85,000 dollars,
• 1:14:18
  man, there was some months and the last year and a half that we
• 1:14:21
  made 10,000 in one month. Last month, we have 85,000
• 1:14:25
  dollars in, this isn't the boasting brag on the amount
• 1:14:27
  because there's a lot more people who are doing a lot,
• 1:14:30
  greater things financially, to me, as to point out to you guys
• 1:14:33
  that when you're not afraid to step out on the faith that God
• 1:14:37
  has placed inside of you. How what you can accomplish,
• 1:14:39
  what you can do. There's no telling of what you
• 1:14:42
  can do when You just keep taking action and you don't take no for
• 1:14:45
  an answer. Yep love it.
• 1:14:47
  That is so true. I mean I've got inspired
• 1:14:51
  thinking it's early in the morning I need go out and do
• 1:14:53
  something that's good. So Kyle you build this, you get
• 1:14:59
  your, you get your dealers license.
• 1:15:01
  You start building this business.
• 1:15:06
  I want to ask you this because you know, you've given us so
• 1:15:11
  much good information here. All this stuff that you've lived
• 1:15:16
  through. I mean, all that stuff.
• 1:15:20
  I always ask these people, that are on this podcast.
• 1:15:22
  What do you think your biggest takeaway to impart to the people
• 1:15:25
  listening? Man.
• 1:15:30
  Don't take no, don't take no, don't give up.
• 1:15:33
  If I tell anybody, if I have one winning characteristic that is
• 1:15:37
  built into my life is tenaciousness, its ability to
• 1:15:40
  not receive the answer. No, and to accept it for
• 1:15:43
  yourself not to allow other people's limiting beliefs to
• 1:15:46
  stop. You not to allow your own
• 1:15:48
  limiting beliefs to stop you. So I tell people like when I was
• 1:15:51
  incarcerated, my biggest Vision that I could establish for
• 1:15:54
  myself, was to get a to get a city job and too slippery.
• 1:15:58
  Couple cars on the side and I was doing that within a month of
• 1:16:01
  me being out of release. Do you think you're some person
• 1:16:05
  after 10 years old? My vision was limited to what I
• 1:16:09
  could see for my life at that time, but as I continued to put
• 1:16:12
  the blocks and lay the blocks of my life.
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  As I continue to lay the mortar down before me as I continue to
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  pay about my life and God continue to clear out, it says
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  allow your word to be a lamp to my feet and a light to my path.
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  Clear the clear, clear the path before me got, and as you
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  continue, You to step out in life and you continue to
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  experience more things. You're going to have a bigger
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  vision of what you can accomplish with your life.
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  So do you think that like, when I was incarcerated, I envisioned
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  this life of being able to make this type of money.
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  This type of impact hiring people into a company.
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  My biggest Vision was, hey, I'll go get a city job and flip a
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  couple cars in the side and have a decent, little life and live
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  the rest of my life that way. Yeah.
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  But as I continue to do the work, as I continue to see the
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  greater Vision, it continued to lay out in front of me, bigger
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  and bigger and bigger. So I tell people man, I don't
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  believe in accomplishing goals but I believe in setting them
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  yes. Because what happens is I set
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  goals before I even get to that goal because I'm reverse
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  engineering it and I'm doing the work to actually achieve that
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  goal on a daily basis because of the individual that I become in
• 1:17:16
  the pursuit of that goal, my vision actually becomes bigger.
• 1:17:19
  So most of the time before I actually received that goal my
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  my pitchforks go further. My goal post goes further and I
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  said a bigger goal and a bigger goal in a bigger goal before I
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  even get to the first one. Let me lay one out for you that.
• 1:17:32
  I just told my wife about, I haven't shared this with
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  anybody. I'm going to share it with you
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  guys. Here we go.
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  This is on this pot goal, my goal for this year was to flip
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  30 cars. In one month last year, we flip
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  24, we flip 24, retail 6 wholesale.
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  I never counted wholesale before, but five of those
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  wholesale were for profit. Realistically, we did flip 30
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  but I'm not counting and I'm counting to 24.
• 1:17:56
  We did Eighty-Four eighty-five thousand dollars in Revenue.
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  So now before I even got that 30 car goal, I'm not even counting
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  it. I told my wife, my next goal is
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  to make a hundred thousand dollars in profit in a month.
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  So like as you continue to go and as you continue to sit these
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  goals and as you continue to reverse engineer the goals and
• 1:18:16
  do the work that actually takes to achieve the goals, your
• 1:18:19
  produce different results that make your vision.
• 1:18:21
  Asian bigger that allow you to set a bigger goal that you can
• 1:18:24
  then attempt to attain that, you can become a bigger individual
• 1:18:26
  in your life, that can then transform the way that you think
• 1:18:29
  and transform who you are, transformed.
• 1:18:31
  The value that you can add and transform what you can actually
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  produce in your life. And if you keep living on that
• 1:18:36
  standard, you're going to live for each and every single day,
• 1:18:40
  every breath that you have to the absolute, most of your
• 1:18:43
  ability in your potential. You're going to live for your
• 1:18:46
  purpose. You're going to have a fulfilled
• 1:18:48
  life because it's not about the destination, it's about You're
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  doing right now to achieve greatness in your life and I
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  love that turned your Scoreboard on man.
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  That's that's good stuff. That is good stuff.
• 1:18:59
  Kyle. How do people get a hold of you,
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  your podcast everything. Yeah.
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  So you can go to the value raise.com.
• 1:19:07
  That's our podcast. Also on Instagram.
• 1:19:09
  It's at the value race. My personal Instagram is mr.
• 1:19:13
  Underscore. No ceiling.
• 1:19:15
  Mr. Underscore, no ceiling. You can find me on Facebook,
• 1:19:19
  it's just my name's Kyle. KY Ellie.
• 1:19:21
  Troponin C hia, ppon e-buy, company is redemption, Auto
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  Sales, Redemption, Auto Sales and corporator where Redemption
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  Auto on Facebook, Redemption, Auto on Instagram, and our
• 1:19:32
  website. For our business is 200
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  Autos.com, 200 Autos with a s.com, but I really encourage
• 1:19:38
  you guys, man. I'm trying to grow this podcast
• 1:19:40
  and trying to go grow my personal brand.
• 1:19:42
  If you guys could follow me on Instagram at mr.
• 1:19:45
  Underscores No Stealing. If you guys could check out the
• 1:19:48
  value rates on Instagram, the value raised on all the major
• 1:19:51
  Podcast platforms. Whether it be apple Spotify
• 1:19:54
  wherever you listen to your podcast, please tune in rate
• 1:19:57
  review follow. I truly appreciate it.
• 1:20:00
  And I appreciate you Brent, for having me on.
• 1:20:02
  I love it and it is a big deal for all those guys that are
• 1:20:06
  doing podcasting, the Apple reviews, they give the, the fuel
• 1:20:11
  to your tutu, pumping, up, the volume on promoting the show.
• 1:20:15
  So, if you go to Apple, you drop those.
• 1:20:18
  You go to the the podcast. Page.
• 1:20:22
  And you scroll down and it says write a review.
• 1:20:24
  You write a review. It's awesome.
• 1:20:27
  Anybody want to get ahold of me. It's Brent, cast e.com.
• 1:20:30
  I spell caste wrong. It's where the T?
• 1:20:32
  Why? Leave me a message there?
• 1:20:35
  And if you're looking for a book, I wrote 19 more success,
• 1:20:38
  you can get that on Amazon Barnes & Noble as I used to say
• 1:20:42
  when I was writing my e-mails back and forth from Leavenworth,
• 1:20:45
  stay strong and I'll do the same Kyle chip.
• 1:20:47
  Pony man. Thanks for all your words of
• 1:20:49
  wisdom today. I appreciate it.
• 1:20:52
  Yeah, thank you brother so much for having me on.
• 1:20:54
  It was an honor and a pleasure. I'm truly, truly humble man to
• 1:20:58
  even be able to have the opportunity to be introduced to
• 1:21:01
  guys like you to come on podcast like that.
• 1:21:03
  It still blows my mind today. You know, we were just chopping
• 1:21:06
  it up earlier and we will see you asked me when I got released
• 1:21:09
  and I said, June 29, 2017 minute.
• 1:21:11
  And to me, it still feels like yesterday.
• 1:21:13
  Yeah. Don't even have this opportunity
• 1:21:15
  to have this platform. Have this ability, have this
• 1:21:17
  podcast Studio to be able to contact you and have these
• 1:21:20
  discussions with you. It literally Ali blows my mind,
• 1:21:22
  so I appreciate the invite. It was an honor.
• 1:21:24
  Okay, you're an inspiration, man.
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  I appreciate it Latimer. Success it out.
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  We'll see you. Bye.