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Zach Hensley - A Sports Executive’s Playbook For Patience And Presence At Home · Quarterback DadCast | Intentional Fatherhood & Leadership at Home

• 0:40
  SPEAKER_03: Everybody, it's KCJ Cop Switch, the quarterback.gas.
• 0:43
  SPEAKER_03: We are speaking.
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  SPEAKER_03: We are continuing the strong, strong year of guests.
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  SPEAKER_03: And I think that the next one we have the nice tweet.
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  SPEAKER_03: And I want to thank one of the DNS folks for making this episode of Fox Fly at an event.
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  SPEAKER_03: Actually, today I've been 50 or friends over at Doc and DC.
• 1:02
  SPEAKER_03: And we're getting to know each other.
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  SPEAKER_03: I got a guy that's great.
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  SPEAKER_03: His name is Dak and he's vice president GMO of Blumen Field, which is where our beloved Seattle Occupy.
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  SPEAKER_03: This guy's a central Missouri lum.
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  SPEAKER_03: He's been in and in and around the sports industry for a long time.
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  SPEAKER_03: But with all that said, that's not why we're having Zach on.
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  SPEAKER_03: We're going to learn about Dak the dad and how he's continually working hard to become an ultimate quarterback or leader of this household.
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  SPEAKER_03: So further ado, Mr.
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  SPEAKER_03: Hensley, welcome to the quarterback podcast.
• 1:32
  SPEAKER_03: Thank you for having me, Casey.
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  SPEAKER_03: Look forward to the conversation.
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  SPEAKER_03: Should be fun.
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  SPEAKER_03: Well, we always start out each episode with gratitude.
• 1:38
  SPEAKER_03: So tell me, what are you most grateful for as a dad today?
• 1:42
  SPEAKER_01: You know, I'll tell you, my daughter, so my daughter um recently started playing soccer at Gonzaga.
• 1:48
  SPEAKER_01: She's a freshman uh overall.
• 1:50
  SPEAKER_01: Um and she's had three matches so far overall.
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  SPEAKER_01: I've been uh been able to get to see two of them in person.
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  SPEAKER_01: So we had we had a home match, and she got about she got 15 minutes of playing time as a freshman, which is great.
• 2:02
  SPEAKER_01: And then um we decided they played at the University of Oregon uh on that Sunday, and we said, you know what, why not?
• 2:09
  SPEAKER_01: So we went down and surprised her uh to get you know get down and see her uh again, which grateful moment overall.
• 2:16
  SPEAKER_01: Um she um tore her meniscus in in late December.
• 2:21
  SPEAKER_01: Uh so to see her back on the field in full recovery, uh, it's been pretty great to see the joy she has uh in her in her eyes.
• 2:29
  SPEAKER_01: That's been that's been you know grateful uh as far as gratitude as a dad overall.
• 2:33
  SPEAKER_01: And I'll I'll go to my my son, so he's um 17.
• 2:38
  SPEAKER_01: Uh he is a he's a character.
• 2:40
  SPEAKER_01: He is maybe one of the funniest individuals that I may have ever met.
• 2:43
  SPEAKER_01: Uh and some of it goes right over my head, but that's what happens when you have a 17-year-old son and 18-year-old daughter these days, right?
• 2:50
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but you know, just being able to spend the moments with him and um being able to have just opportunities and experiences.
• 2:58
  SPEAKER_01: You know, we uh in in my job, um, we hosted the World Cup here.
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  SPEAKER_01: Uh and to be able to see the U.S.
• 3:05
  SPEAKER_01: men's national team with him uh was pretty, you know, it's it's when you think about experiences in life and that what you get to be able to do with them.
• 3:13
  SPEAKER_01: And you know, I I've been fortunate enough to be able to spend some really great time with my both of my kids lately.
• 3:19
  SPEAKER_01: Um and just really grateful about those moments and and being able to, you know, take a look back mentally in your head.
• 3:27
  SPEAKER_01: Uh obviously, you know, the 10,000 pictures you take in your phone to kind of and you're like, oh, I forgot about that moment.
• 3:32
  SPEAKER_01: That moment there.
• 3:33
  SPEAKER_01: Generally you think about the big things, but yeah, it's really grateful to be able to uh continue to be uh in their lives uh and and celebrate the the moments with them.
• 3:45
  SPEAKER_03: So good, man.
• 3:46
  SPEAKER_03: Uh so much is already speaking to me.
• 3:48
  SPEAKER_03: Um, but I'm gonna I'm gonna slow my curiosity down.
• 3:51
  SPEAKER_03: But so I'll tell you what I'm most grateful for today is four cars in the garage.
• 3:55
  SPEAKER_03: Uh huh because I'm uh I'm about nine days away from being a full empty nester.
• 4:01
  SPEAKER_03: And uh I when I left the house at about 511 today to go work out with my old old old man buddies, um I was like, I just smiled.
• 4:09
  SPEAKER_03: I saw four cars in the garage because I know in about 10 days were gonna be two cars in the garage, and that'll make it make dad a little sad.
• 4:15
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I went in uh actually not just clear, but this morning before I left uh for work.
• 4:21
  SPEAKER_01: I went in and just sat in my daughter's bed.
• 4:23
  SPEAKER_01: You know, she's been gone for five weeks, right?
• 4:26
  SPEAKER_01: Uh so I feel it.
• 4:27
  SPEAKER_01: I know, you know, I I know what you're feeling, and you know, we we got one more year with my my son.
• 4:34
  SPEAKER_01: Really looking forward to that, but yeah, I'm not we're we're questioning what are we gonna do?
• 4:39
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, what hobbies are we gonna pick up together?
• 4:41
  SPEAKER_03: You know?
• 4:42
  SPEAKER_03: Hey, maybe they'll maybe the NFL will go on strike, they'll need a scab player and you can come out of retirement, man.
• 4:47
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, be great.
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  SPEAKER_03: Okay, bring us inside the Hensley huddle.
• 4:52
  SPEAKER_03: I always like asking my guests how you and your spouse met, and then um um just obviously you talked a little bit about your kids, but talk a little bit about what what they're up to right now.
• 5:02
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, great.
• 5:03
  SPEAKER_01: So yeah, so my my um wife and I we met back in 2001 uh overall.
• 5:10
  SPEAKER_01: We were both working um for a food service organization that ran the Kansas City Chiefs and Kansas City Royals uh into there about called Volume Services America.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um and she was uh at that time still in college, and I was at a you know a full-time I was the assistant general manager into there.
• 5:27
  SPEAKER_01: And um at the first time, to be honest with you, I I didn't really like her.
• 5:32
  SPEAKER_01: I thought she had like this kind of aura about her, and you know, she was this this uh I mean obviously very gorgeous uh individual, but I'm like, I don't know if I if I feel this overall.
• 5:42
  SPEAKER_01: And um and and we started you know talking a couple more times, had had some lunch with some friends overall, and I kind of said, Oh, okay, you know, I I understand what who she's about, you know, and it was you know really, really great.
• 5:55
  SPEAKER_01: Um and you know, from there, you know, we really spent a lot of time, a lot of time together just to get to know her, uh, a little bit about her, you know, her family as well, and and we really hit it off, to be quite honest with you.
• 6:09
  SPEAKER_01: I actually uh proposed to her uh at Kaufman Stadium, so where the Kansas City Royals play, um post a post-game uh overall.
• 6:17
  SPEAKER_01: There was like this catering area, you know, threw out the rose petals and had all the champagne and had all this this thing uh into there.
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  SPEAKER_01: So it was a really, really great experience.
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  SPEAKER_01: So yeah, we were we've been together um 21 years this year overall, and it's been you know a really, really great journey with her.
• 6:37
  SPEAKER_01: She is uh the number one champion uh of me, I tell you, you know, as I as I think about you know my journey um both as a dad um but as as a professional, but I think Laura's a dad, like your kids teach you some things, but I think my wife, she is uh five years younger than me, and she is much wiser than I am.
• 6:56
  SPEAKER_01: I'll tell you that right now.
• 6:58
  SPEAKER_01: I certainly learn a lot from her, and I don't know how she's able to hold everything together and balance the family for all these years, and you know, and I I try to think I help out, but man, she's tremendous.
• 7:11
  SPEAKER_03: Man, I think most good marriages hate to throw us dads under the bus, but we we marry up, Zach.
• 7:16
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, we we definitely marry up, and I think women have this like one, I never mess with a woman's intuition or mom's intuition and just how organized they are.
• 7:29
  SPEAKER_03: It's like a superpower.
• 7:31
  SPEAKER_03: But I specialize in 80s comedy movies, she makes up for in household you know, organizational skills.
• 7:38
  SPEAKER_01: Those are those are all facts.
• 7:40
  SPEAKER_03: Um random, do you do you know the name Joel Goldberg?
• 7:44
  SPEAKER_03: I do not he's um I'm gonna be connecting with him soon.
• 7:48
  SPEAKER_03: He's the I think the color man or play-by-play guy for the Royals uh TV.
• 7:54
  SPEAKER_01: Oh god.
• 7:55
  SPEAKER_03: I didn't know if your paths crossed.
• 7:56
  SPEAKER_01: He must came in later than me um overall, but yeah.
• 8:00
  SPEAKER_01: It's been I left Kansas City in 2004.
• 8:03
  SPEAKER_01: I mean my family still lives there, but you know, but yeah, I left, moved on.
• 8:07
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 8:08
  SPEAKER_03: All right, so we got a daughter in um Gonzaga, and uh now your son, he's a senior.
• 8:14
  SPEAKER_03: Is that right then?
• 8:15
  SPEAKER_03: He's a senior, yeah.
• 8:16
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, then does he know what he's doing next year?
• 8:18
  SPEAKER_01: Well, right now we're in the recruiting process for him, so also a soccer player.
• 8:23
  SPEAKER_01: Um, you know, he's he doesn't want to go the D1 route.
• 8:26
  SPEAKER_01: He thinks it's a lot of pressure um to be able to balance that overall.
• 8:30
  SPEAKER_01: So um, you know, we've been going, um, you know, I talk about my wife, she's the one that's been kind of we've been orchestrating emails that she found this um this website that you're able to help send out emails to like you know 65, 100 colleges at one time, and then you can track progress when they open it, how long they click through, do they view the videos?
• 8:49
  SPEAKER_01: Um, so he's been talking to six or eight schools, a couple of them up in in Wisconsin overall.
• 8:54
  SPEAKER_01: We're getting ready to plan a uh a trip to Rippin' um to go out there and kind of see that campus.
• 9:00
  SPEAKER_01: Just really, you know, and see if if to enjoy that that moment with him, he may not decide.
• 9:06
  SPEAKER_01: We're also looking at schools without soccer.
• 9:08
  SPEAKER_01: He may decide to also play, you know, club soccer and um so we're we're right now in the midst of it.
• 9:14
  SPEAKER_01: Um, you know, it it's a lot of stress for for the kids.
• 9:17
  SPEAKER_01: I'll tell you what, man, when when my daughter was a sophomore, for her to have to talk to you know college coaches about what is what decision she's gonna make for her future, and she's literally 16 years old.
• 9:30
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, it's just it's crazy how how much this progresses and it it really makes them grow up in in a moment.
• 9:37
  SPEAKER_01: You you hope you think like, man, this is really cool, but am I you know taking away her ability to enjoy her childhood in like senior year high school?
• 9:45
  SPEAKER_01: Um it's the same thing with him.
• 9:46
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, it's it's a lot of pressure uh to be able to put on that one.
• 9:50
  SPEAKER_01: But um, so yeah, that's the that's the journey.
• 9:53
  SPEAKER_01: We got a couple more trips that him and we're planning to go together um you know with him to go see a few more colleges and you know to determine that that's that's the way he wants to go.
• 10:03
  SPEAKER_01: Um we're just here to support and help him make what we think is his best decision, and he can he gets to make that.
• 10:10
  SPEAKER_01: You know, we can we can only add color commentary, and ultimately it's him that can make that but what a fun journey it is.
• 10:17
  SPEAKER_03: Um my son's playing golf down at a south a school called Southern Oregon.
• 10:22
  SPEAKER_03: And my daughter, we are we have something else in common now since we last spoke.
• 10:26
  SPEAKER_03: Um my daughter tore her ACL, MCL in meniscus in January, so um full neat, full blowout.
• 10:33
  SPEAKER_03: Um she's about six, seven months into recovery right now, can lightly jog, she can shoot and dribble and but nowhere near sprinting yet.
• 10:42
  SPEAKER_03: Um uh she reports to camp August 30th, and then the the girls, the her team, they're taking them to Italy for an international trip.
• 10:51
  SPEAKER_03: I'm like, man, what a not a bad way to start your college career going to Italy.
• 10:55
  SPEAKER_03: And she's injured, so it's like less pressure too.
• 10:58
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, exactly.
• 10:59
  SPEAKER_01: You know, I so I actually got an MRI on Friday, I tore my meniscus on my left knee.
• 11:04
  SPEAKER_01: Um I've been having pain.
• 11:06
  SPEAKER_01: Uh I'm a I'm so I'm a runner somewhat.
• 11:08
  SPEAKER_01: I run 20, 25 miles a week, right?
• 11:10
  SPEAKER_01: Do the normal working out.
• 11:11
  SPEAKER_01: Um and it's weird.
• 11:13
  SPEAKER_01: It's like sometimes I feel pain, sometimes I don't.
• 11:16
  SPEAKER_01: Today I did three and a half miles.
• 11:17
  SPEAKER_01: I don't I didn't feel any pain overall.
• 11:19
  SPEAKER_01: Um, so you know, luckily the profession I'm uh I'm in and the organization I work for, we have some pretty doggone good doctors who, you know, uh our doctor um also did uh my daughter's tea surgery as well at his practice.
• 11:33
  SPEAKER_01: So right now just trying to figure out what that means, what that means for me.
• 11:36
  SPEAKER_01: And you know, I'm I'm I just turned 50 last month, so you know, I'm not ready to not ready to hang this up yet.
• 11:42
  SPEAKER_03: Welcome to the club, man.
• 11:43
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 11:44
  SPEAKER_03: How does how does feeling 50 feel to you?
• 11:47
  SPEAKER_01: You know, it hasn't changed anything, I think.
• 11:49
  SPEAKER_01: Uh I you know, I every once in a while I do think, you know, man, I'm 50, do I need to not that I make bad decisions in life, but I'm like, you know, should I eat that?
• 11:59
  SPEAKER_01: Should I not eat that?
• 11:59
  SPEAKER_01: What should I, you know, and so those are some things that I'm you know kind of thinking about, you know.
• 12:03
  SPEAKER_01: But uh, you know, I'll to be quite honestly as we're talking about dads, I just think about like, you know, what's the future look like with my kids, and you know, how you know what so that's what I'm trying to think about, like, you know, we're we're after college, you know, during college, and just kind of thinking through that.
• 12:20
  SPEAKER_03: So I know.
• 12:22
  SPEAKER_03: I I love being 50.
• 12:23
  SPEAKER_03: I think you know, I I I like to think, this is me, my male ego speaking, I like to think I don't look 50.
• 12:28
  SPEAKER_03: I think I don't feel 50.
• 12:30
  SPEAKER_03: But um when I entered the senior bract of my club championship, I definitely felt 50 C and then like, wow, I'm now in the old man group.
• 12:38
  SPEAKER_03: This is gonna be crazy.
• 12:40
  SPEAKER_03: Um, okay, well, bring me back to what was life like growing up for you.
• 12:44
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, talk about the impact mom and dad had on you from a values perspective that kind of has helped you in fatherhood.
• 12:50
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 12:51
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so my um my parents got divorced when I was three uh overall.
• 12:54
  SPEAKER_01: I had a young, younger or older brother, excuse me.
• 12:57
  SPEAKER_01: He's four years older than me.
• 12:58
  SPEAKER_01: So a little different perspective, wasn't a you know, a dynamic family household overall.
• 13:03
  SPEAKER_01: Um when I say that.
• 13:05
  SPEAKER_01: Nothing nothing problem, but you know, having having both of them.
• 13:08
  SPEAKER_01: I I lived with my mom uh overall, and you know my dad, um after about four, you know, we were in in touch and going over his house every weekend and doing the Sunday things.
• 13:17
  SPEAKER_01: He was he was he was around.
• 13:18
  SPEAKER_01: But then he ended up moving down the street when um we got a little bit older.
• 13:22
  SPEAKER_01: Um so he lived down the street right from you know from where our house was.
• 13:26
  SPEAKER_01: So, you know, being able to have that that connection with him um was pretty great.
• 13:31
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, you know, my my mother being a single mother, I I remember, you know, her working, you know, a couple jobs during the time.
• 13:38
  SPEAKER_01: So I kind of grew up a little bit, not on my own, but I learned to do some things on my own.
• 13:43
  SPEAKER_01: Um, with he was having a couple different jobs.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um some of those probably stupid things, but some of those also things that I helped, you know, help kind of grow grow me as an individual to kind of you know pursue me to do that one.
• 13:57
  SPEAKER_01: Um my father was a so a a working chef at a home style restaurant.
• 14:03
  SPEAKER_01: So um, you know, was did that for for years uh overall.
• 14:08
  SPEAKER_01: He eventually moved out of the restaurant business, didn't own it, didn't own one, but he was working at the same restaurant for probably twenty twenty plus years uh overall.
• 14:17
  SPEAKER_01: And I think that um, you know, I'll go back to my mom, you know, we we didn't grow up with much, um, to be honest with you.
• 14:24
  SPEAKER_01: We always had like a roof over our head, but you know, she I always, you know, played the game of oh, I want the new Nikes or I want this or uh, you know, back when I was a kid, Andre Agassiz were like a school shoe and stuff like that when it you know probably shouldn't have spent that money on me, but those are the things that she did to make sure that you know I was represented into there.
• 14:44
  SPEAKER_01: And um, you know, I I I thank thank her for for for that and and some of the things that you know she always got me in involved in, you know, introduced me to sports, did that as well.
• 14:56
  SPEAKER_01: You know, my my dad and I, um, you know, to be quite honest with you, you know, it was there was a little bit of resentment when I was a a young child with that that divorce being with your mother uh into there and and you know, being able it took me several years to to get close to my father.
• 15:11
  SPEAKER_01: Um not as not as a a person, but I think mentally and emotionally.
• 15:15
  SPEAKER_01: Um as well.
• 15:17
  SPEAKER_01: Um you know, he one of the values my father was such a hard worker.
• 15:22
  SPEAKER_01: Um so I started working when I was thirteen years old.
• 15:25
  SPEAKER_01: Um dishwasher at the home s at the restaurant, uh overall.
• 15:30
  SPEAKER_01: Um which is kind of how I got into this business, which propelled me to that one as well.
• 15:35
  SPEAKER_01: So, you know, that was one of the pieces where I was again every Sunday, because you know, there there wasn't the same labor laws there were back when I was thirteen as there is is now overall.
• 15:46
  SPEAKER_01: So that you know, some of the values of that is uh is always hardworking, always being present, um, you know, respectful I think into there, but you know, always also representing who you are as an individual.
• 15:57
  SPEAKER_01: Uh and those those things into there.
• 16:00
  SPEAKER_01: You know, my my my my grandparents I remember on both sides.
• 16:04
  SPEAKER_01: Um, they were you know so much fun with them and my cousins and um it was an interesting dynamic on on each side, you know.
• 16:11
  SPEAKER_01: I think my mother's family was much closer than my father's family was and individuals, and some of that was because he was the only boy and he had three sisters, right?
• 16:20
  SPEAKER_01: And so um so I think there was a little bit a little bit dynamic in there, but I think each of them helped shape me um, you know, to to drive to be there.
• 16:29
  SPEAKER_01: And I think, you know, my my upbringing and it wasn't wasn't wasn't bad.
• 16:32
  SPEAKER_01: It's not like we were um you know, without shelter or anything.
• 16:35
  SPEAKER_01: It was just you know a small, smaller, smaller homes, not the best neighborhood, but you know, I I think seeing them drive, but it also drove me like what what am I gonna do with my life, right?
• 16:46
  SPEAKER_01: How am I going to continue to to improve as an individual?
• 16:51
  SPEAKER_01: Um so I think that worth ethics helped me start with that one.
• 16:55
  SPEAKER_01: And and school came easy to me.
• 16:57
  SPEAKER_01: I wasn't a genius.
• 16:58
  SPEAKER_01: I am not like, you know, but I I didn't ever have to like study hard.
• 17:01
  SPEAKER_01: Um I wasn't like a 4.0 student.
• 17:04
  SPEAKER_01: I didn't get, you know, I'm horrible at taking tests, you know, don't don't give me a I got a 20 on my ACT.
• 17:10
  SPEAKER_01: Um so not not smart at tests, but when it comes to like normal uh curriculum and stuff like that, it was pretty cool to be able to get that one.
• 17:17
  SPEAKER_01: But yeah, pretty pretty great memories into there, you know, uh with both of them and still in contact with all of them, both my mother and my father.
• 17:26
  SPEAKER_01: Uh he remarried um you know later on, and it took took me a while to get to love my stepmother as well, and she's still with us 35 years later, man.
• 17:35
  SPEAKER_01: So it's pretty cool.
• 17:37
  SPEAKER_03: Wow.
• 17:37
  SPEAKER_03: Well, we share that in common too.
• 17:39
  SPEAKER_03: I my parents got divorced a little later when I was a red shirt freshman when I was over at Central.
• 17:45
  SPEAKER_03: Um it's I don't think anybody wishes that, you know, and my dad, unfortunately, passed away December 29th, 2021.
• 17:51
  SPEAKER_03: And I think you know, he had a rap sheet of health issues.
• 17:55
  SPEAKER_03: The divorce definitely didn't help.
• 17:57
  SPEAKER_03: Um my mom remarried great dude, and now they live in the tri-cities.
• 18:00
  SPEAKER_03: But um yeah, seeing seeing that that uh dynamic is is definitely uh interesting to go through.
• 18:09
  SPEAKER_03: Um I'm glad I did it, got it later in life, and it was a little maybe a little bit more mature.
• 18:14
  SPEAKER_03: Um, but like being younger, I could see how that could be you know challenging.
• 18:17
  SPEAKER_03: I will say, man, the number of dads I've interviewed on this journey that have had um single mom, I would say close to 100%.
• 18:26
  SPEAKER_03: They're all just super driven, super empathetic, um, very successful in multiple lines of work.
• 18:34
  SPEAKER_03: Um I don't I don't know why.
• 18:35
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know if you have any thoughts why that theme is is coming up, maybe since you've experienced it.
• 18:40
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you know, as I reflect on that one, um, you know, I I think I also wanted to be uh a provider, I think, you know, not having that, you know, my my brother lived with us, but then he ended up moving with my dad.
• 18:55
  SPEAKER_01: My mom and brother, he just got to that age where he was, you know, doing different things, and so it was best for him to go there.
• 19:02
  SPEAKER_01: And so when I when I was with her, you know, I think there was that moment that I was always pushing um, you know, to to be a provider.
• 19:09
  SPEAKER_01: And I don't you know, I wasn't financially by any means.
• 19:12
  SPEAKER_01: I'm a child, right?
• 19:13
  SPEAKER_01: You know, trying to move that as well.
• 19:15
  SPEAKER_01: And I think that I think that there is there is some um you know things, you know, about that, um, you know, those moments growing up.
• 19:22
  SPEAKER_01: But I think I think that's some of the things that you know helped me drive and um continue to pursue to be a better person, um, both personally and uh also professionally.
• 19:33
  SPEAKER_01: Well after all, and there's like I I can't pinpoint exact moments where I feel that there was like a light turning on for that one, but I think it's a real bad thing.
• 19:42
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 19:43
  SPEAKER_03: It's just definitely definitely in an interesting thing.
• 19:46
  SPEAKER_03: And I actually think it's a really cool thing that just I don't know if I would have thought about it other than on this seven-year journey of 30 close to 70 something dads I've I've spoken to.
• 19:56
  SPEAKER_03: The goal is to get to a thousand.
• 19:57
  SPEAKER_03: So it's gonna be fun when that a thousand uh happens.
• 20:01
  SPEAKER_03: Um as you think about all those values you shared, obviously a story of working at 13, that's a story that comes to mind for you.
• 20:10
  SPEAKER_03: Um any of those values that that maybe you had to learn the hard way that um that you reflect on now that maybe you've had to share with your kids through like as you mentor and and and coach them on their journey?
• 20:23
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you know, um, and I and I'll go as I as I get a little bit older in college, um, you know, the restaurant business, you have a lot of fun, but you lot of make make a lot of silly decisions uh in life overall.
• 20:36
  SPEAKER_01: And so, you know, I think it it propelled me to kind of grow up um knowing some things that you know I probably didn't make the best decisions, and but it's kind of helped me, you know, just talk to my kids about about some decisions that they make and and situations that they put themselves in.
• 20:53
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, I think that's that's some of the the pieces overall.
• 20:56
  SPEAKER_01: And um and you know, and and we always get to like my family, we the the four of us, my my wife Val and Emma and Chase, you know, we have some open conversations and you there's nothing that it is off the table, right?
• 21:10
  SPEAKER_01: We we we want them to trust us with anything that comes up and let them know that we have their back.
• 21:16
  SPEAKER_01: Like even if it's the worst of the worst, right?
• 21:19
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but we want them to know that we have their back.
• 21:23
  SPEAKER_01: Are we gonna be upset?
• 21:24
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we're gonna we're gonna be upset if something silly happens overall, but there's always a teaching moment in there, and and and you know, they they both are are very um strong individuals.
• 21:35
  SPEAKER_01: You know, my wife I told you I was sitting on my daughter's bed, like, oh my gosh, you know, almost two weeks ago almost crying, she's not here.
• 21:42
  SPEAKER_01: And you know, my wife is like, Look, we did our job, we built a great individual fight, and I'm built, right?
• 21:48
  SPEAKER_01: We raised a great individual with a strong head on her shoulders, a great officer about herself, and that's what we that's all we can do.
• 21:56
  SPEAKER_01: You know, that's what we did.
• 21:57
  SPEAKER_01: And I it didn't help me, I think I was still crying, but
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_03: It's it's the worst.
• 22:01
  SPEAKER_03: I I tell you, man, I wish I could tell you it's gonna get easier.
• 22:04
  SPEAKER_03: It's I I've cried every time they leave, and I blame the onions.
• 22:09
  SPEAKER_03: And uh the first one, my wife and I were a disaster.
• 22:13
  SPEAKER_03: Um even like so we were on the East Coast recently.
• 22:16
  SPEAKER_03: Um and usually when I my wife spends like a month on the East Coast at this place we go to, and then usually me and the kids come home early.
• 22:24
  SPEAKER_03: Um or like all yeah, so it's like my wife usually stays with some of their girlfriends, and then she'll come home later.
• 22:31
  SPEAKER_03: And this was the first time that I left.
• 22:33
  SPEAKER_03: The kids left without me and and my wife.
• 22:36
  SPEAKER_03: So we were there to kind of close up this house, and um it was just like you watching that, and then we're watching the show that like triggered emotions, and I was just like, it just hit me like I'm like, there we're gonna be, and I my wife and have a fantastic marriage, we date, do date nights a lot, we have a lot of fun, but like it it you know came to me where I said this to her, and I've said this to other dads, it's you know, as you want you want to be wanted, but if you're wanted too much at this stage, we've done something wrong.
• 23:06
  SPEAKER_03: You know, so um it's it's such a surreal, surreal uh feeling to see them go.
• 23:13
  SPEAKER_03: It's it's really, really cool.
• 23:14
  SPEAKER_03: Like I was I watched my son, he's worked for Taylor Maid this summer and he's uh traveling all over the state doing these like custom club fittings, and he's been on ferries by himself.
• 23:24
  SPEAKER_03: You know, he called me, he's like, Dad, I think I'm on the right ferry.
• 23:26
  SPEAKER_03: I'm like, Well, hold on, you know, no, let me call you back.
• 23:28
  SPEAKER_03: No, I'm good.
• 23:29
  SPEAKER_03: Yep, I'm going to Bainbridge.
• 23:30
  SPEAKER_03: We're good, Dad.
• 23:32
  SPEAKER_03: You know, so then like I told my wife, I'm like, I wasn't doing that.
• 23:35
  SPEAKER_03: I was riding the back of a moving company truck unloading furniture all summer.
• 23:40
  SPEAKER_03: So yeah, I mean those are the things that's fun to you know to celebrate that it's gonna be sad, but it it definitely gets easier.
• 23:47
  SPEAKER_03: I will tell you one thing that's came out of this journey of podcasting that joke with former previous episodes.
• 23:54
  SPEAKER_03: I interviewed a guy named Brad Rosen and Brad's like, hey, are you on Snapchat yet?
• 23:57
  SPEAKER_03: I go, This was when I was 48.
• 23:58
  SPEAKER_03: I'm like, no, dude, I'm not on Snapchat.
• 24:00
  SPEAKER_03: Why would I I'm 48?
• 24:02
  SPEAKER_03: I'm not doing that.
• 24:02
  SPEAKER_03: He's like, you want to keep in touch with our kids?
• 24:04
  SPEAKER_03: I go, yeah, I'll text them.
• 24:05
  SPEAKER_03: He goes, they're not gonna respond.
• 24:06
  SPEAKER_03: I'm like, yeah, they will.
• 24:07
  SPEAKER_03: I'm their dad.
• 24:08
  SPEAKER_03: He's like, okay, whatever, dude.
• 24:10
  SPEAKER_03: Zach, I have a 712-day streak, Snapstreak with my son.
• 24:15
  SPEAKER_01: I'm on 60.
• 24:16
  SPEAKER_01: So I started Snap 60 days ago.
• 24:18
  SPEAKER_02: Let's go.
• 24:19
  SPEAKER_02: Let's go.
• 24:20
  SPEAKER_01: And you know, it is, it's the only way.
• 24:22
  SPEAKER_01: And you know, it's and and to meet to see their smiling faces or whatever they want to.
• 24:28
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, it's it I I I just called another dad about it yesterday.
• 24:32
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, you gotta get on Snap.
• 24:34
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I'm not, I don't have, I don't even have and I'm like, okay, but I'm telling you, that's you're gonna keep a connection with them.
• 24:40
  SPEAKER_03: It's uh Have you played played around with the filters yet?
• 24:43
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we've done a couple of them.
• 24:44
  SPEAKER_01: We've been having fun with them.
• 24:46
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, that's pretty much guaranteed.
• 24:48
  SPEAKER_03: I'm I'm messing I'm doing the great I do I send pictures of the dogs with the filters.
• 24:52
  SPEAKER_03: Oh yeah to the kids.
• 24:54
  SPEAKER_01: I I sent uh I sent my daughter one on Snap uh and her response, I sent her a photo, her response was hard watched, and I thought, oh, you that means you because I'm like putting there like miss you, right?
• 25:04
  SPEAKER_01: And I thought, you know, I'm I told my bow, uh my wife, I'm like, oh man, she must have really liked that.
• 25:09
  SPEAKER_01: And then my my Chase and his buddy Taylor came over, and I'm like, hey, what does hard watch mean?
• 25:14
  SPEAKER_01: They're like, oh gosh, she thinks that's the worst I ever saw.
• 25:17
  SPEAKER_01: Again, right over my head, but I was like, you know what, I shouldn't even ask.
• 25:21
  SPEAKER_01: I should have just gone and been like, hey, she really liked what I said.
• 25:24
  SPEAKER_03: That's right.
• 25:25
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 25:25
  SPEAKER_03: Don't don't judge my snap game, kid.
• 25:28
  SPEAKER_03: Exactly right.
• 25:28
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, we gotta start someplace.
• 25:30
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 25:31
  SPEAKER_03: Um as you think about your your family and the and the values you've instilled in in um your kids that you and Val are probably most proud of.
• 25:39
  SPEAKER_03: Um, tell me two or three that come to mind for you.
• 25:42
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, both of my kids um are really driven in life.
• 25:46
  SPEAKER_01: And that's not something, you know, I'll I'll take I'm gonna take it separately because they're uh completely two different individuals overall.
• 25:53
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but really, really driven, you know, life to Emma uh came came up a bit easier.
• 25:59
  SPEAKER_01: You know, she was always the best at nearly everything, right?
• 26:03
  SPEAKER_01: And so um, which really really drove her as an individual uh as well.
• 26:08
  SPEAKER_01: But she also uh is very intelligent, and you know, one of the things, and I think she gets this from my wife.
• 26:15
  SPEAKER_01: I can't say she gets it from me, but she does not get involved in drama, and that's something my wife like some of her other friends and girlfriends, it's always like this this whole drama thing, and a lot of high school or soccer, and she's always kept herself out of that.
• 26:30
  SPEAKER_01: She's just you know, look, I I am who I am, and that's what we've kind of told them.
• 26:34
  SPEAKER_01: Look, you you are the person that you are, um the person that you want to be.
• 26:39
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and so I think you know, having her realize that has been something that's been pretty great, and it's even happening in college.
• 26:46
  SPEAKER_01: There's a couple couple of teammates that are trying to cause like turmoil, and she's like, you know what?
• 26:51
  SPEAKER_01: I'm over here, I got practice, I get to do my own thing overall.
• 26:54
  SPEAKER_01: And because she like she's got to focus on on what where where she wants to be.
• 27:00
  SPEAKER_01: Like she doesn't know where she may be next, but she knows what her focus and her principles are uh for that one.
• 27:06
  SPEAKER_01: I think that's you know, I think that's gonna be important.
• 27:09
  SPEAKER_01: You know, my son values for him, um the kid never quits.
• 27:14
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, he has had uh you know, he has uh ADHD, we've had him on medication for years, he's had an anxiety uh overall, and I don't know if you know this, but being at one of the top competitive sports, those two things are very challenging for a nine-year-old, right?
• 27:31
  SPEAKER_01: So he's had some some difficult coaches and you know, rode the bench and and did all these things and but and just in life in general, he had some teachers that were you know very tough on him as a young kid.
• 27:44
  SPEAKER_01: Um that resiliency, I mean, just how he continues to to do that.
• 27:48
  SPEAKER_01: I you know, I um I have ADHD.
• 27:51
  SPEAKER_01: I was never diagnosed, but we all, you know, ever as we grow older, we're like, oh yeah, that's what it was, right?
• 27:56
  SPEAKER_01: That's what I was doing.
• 27:58
  SPEAKER_01: Um but he's still resilient.
• 28:01
  SPEAKER_01: Uh and and and I think that you know, driven for that one is as as well.
• 28:06
  SPEAKER_01: Um they are he is one of the most empathetic individuals I may have ever met, has the kindest heart.
• 28:14
  SPEAKER_01: Like he he takes people in, like I have I have people that come over to my house that I may have never met before, and Chase just brings men.
• 28:23
  SPEAKER_01: Like he wants them to be, he wants them to have a good experience, and whether that's just in in class or whatever that is, he just I just I tell him, like, you're gonna do something special.
• 28:33
  SPEAKER_01: I said you are going to help people.
• 28:36
  SPEAKER_01: I said, I don't know what.
• 28:37
  SPEAKER_01: I said, but the way that your heart is and the way that you do it, he has one of the biggest parts.
• 28:41
  SPEAKER_01: I said, I don't know, but you're gonna you're gonna do something big.
• 28:44
  SPEAKER_01: Um and just how he really because he sees people like because I think in his mind he's going through so many, right?
• 28:51
  SPEAKER_01: Through all the stuff that he goes through and how if he's thinking about making a decision, he's already had 50 questions in his head before he's trying to get to that decision.
• 28:59
  SPEAKER_01: And so he really sees people and sees that if people are are struggling, um, or if they're you know off to the side, and he brings them in.
• 29:07
  SPEAKER_01: And it's just you know, those are some some things and and I and I've done that.
• 29:11
  SPEAKER_01: I mean I've been uh as as I've gone, I mean, making sure that people are are are welcome, um, you know, w with us, uh me as an individual, but uh with us as a family, what's gonna be you know really important you know to both of our kids overall is you know being there, um being for your friends, um in the great moments and the bad moments as well.
• 29:34
  SPEAKER_02: It's really great to be talking about so cool.
• 29:38
  SPEAKER_02: What tell me the hardest part about being a dad in your journey's been so far?
• 29:43
  SPEAKER_01: I'm not a very patient person.
• 29:45
  SPEAKER_01: Um, you know, I I uh I I at home it's really weird.
• 29:49
  SPEAKER_01: I have a very stressful job, one can imagine, right?
• 29:52
  SPEAKER_01: Um but at home, my patients, especially when they were young.
• 29:57
  SPEAKER_01: Now I'm like, yeah, whatever, but my patients wear to wear very, very thin overall, and um where I get you know get angry and my wife would be like you need to take a walk, and uh those those pieces, and and and rightfully so, uh, overall.
• 30:12
  SPEAKER_01: Um but I also think that I'm also a problem solver and in my own way and having to learn can't solve all their dang problems.
• 30:23
  SPEAKER_01: I want to, you know, and and that was even when they were younger, but even now, like they come to me and I know what the answer is, and my wife just tells me, shut up, let them figure it out, because but I I think that one's uh how to turn off that problem solving and giving them an answer and let them make mistakes, you know, and and let them learn from it.
• 30:43
  SPEAKER_01: I think those are those are some of the pieces that I uh I am.
• 30:47
  SPEAKER_01: And I I think one of the other, you know, we just talked about it, but letting go, you know, that one's that one's uh that one's that one's close, close to home right now.
• 30:54
  SPEAKER_01: Uh in there and you know it's uh especially you know um if Chase decides to go to the East Coast or whatever wherever he decides to go, I think those are those are some of the ones I think that are that are challenging, but also grateful, right?
• 31:10
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, those those speak to me, man.
• 31:12
  SPEAKER_03: I think it's I know I've become more patient from this podcast.
• 31:16
  SPEAKER_03: I know it.
• 31:17
  SPEAKER_03: And I was uh my dad was sorry, Pop's gonna air out up there in heaven.
• 31:21
  SPEAKER_03: He he was so impatient at the time.
• 31:23
  SPEAKER_03: He would he would drop the best like GD bombs at me as a kid, and it would make us laugh at times.
• 31:29
  SPEAKER_03: Because it was just so like just perfectly articulated.
• 31:33
  SPEAKER_03: And me and my sister would be like giggling because we knew he'd get hot.
• 31:36
  SPEAKER_03: And um he used to say this phrase shut it up.
• 31:39
  SPEAKER_03: I'm like, that's not even grammar, Dad.
• 31:41
  SPEAKER_03: Doesn't even make sense.
• 31:41
  SPEAKER_03: What does shut it up mean?
• 31:42
  SPEAKER_03: So we would laugh about that, you'd get more mad.
• 31:45
  SPEAKER_03: Um but I tell you, when I was when when the COVID shenanigans happened, in we my wife and I were those parents doing too much for our kids.
• 31:56
  SPEAKER_03: Didn't realize it.
• 31:57
  SPEAKER_03: And COVID exposed that.
• 31:59
  SPEAKER_03: I'm like and I interviewed a guy named Swen Nader who wrote a book called Uh You Have Not Taught Until The Have Learned.
• 32:04
  SPEAKER_03: He played for um Bill Walton back in the day.
• 32:08
  SPEAKER_03: I mean sorry, he played with for um uh Coach Wood and he played with Bill Walton back in the day.
• 32:13
  SPEAKER_03: And uh this book was just like so kindly about like and then that's helped trigger out, trigger like values that drive me, which is being humble, vulnerable, but the number one is being curious and helping remind my kids like the best relationships you have in life is not about what you say, it's what you ask.
• 32:29
  SPEAKER_03: If you make you are more interested in people versus being trying to be interesting, you're gonna create better and stronger relationships.
• 32:36
  SPEAKER_03: And um your your wife's spot on.
• 32:40
  SPEAKER_03: Um, and I think like my wife is I've told this before, but I like doing again because it kind of grounds me, is after 20 something years in corporate, I left, wasn't sure what was gonna do.
• 32:49
  SPEAKER_03: I knew I wanted to write a book, I knew I wanna start this podcast, and then I m got into speaking and coaching on accident and but it's been an absolute calling.
• 32:58
  SPEAKER_03: And then early in the journey I was so excited about it and talking about coaching and this and that.
• 33:03
  SPEAKER_03: And then on accident, what I started to do was I was coaching my wife, which is a no-no.
• 33:09
  SPEAKER_03: I was trying to coach my kids about certain things, but that was no, and all of a sudden now I'm like you know, telling everybody about the podcast, my friends, and they're like, dude, we don't care.
• 33:16
  SPEAKER_03: We want I finally my wife looks at me and she goes, Hey, we want Casey back.
• 33:21
  SPEAKER_03: And you want to talk about a punch to the you know what?
• 33:23
  SPEAKER_03: I was like, Oh but I'm so but I'm thankfully I've been coached hard in sports.
• 33:28
  SPEAKER_03: I was like, Okay, this is this is a gift.
• 33:31
  SPEAKER_03: Like, slow down, dude.
• 33:32
  SPEAKER_03: And then just get curious to what does that feedback mean?
• 33:34
  SPEAKER_03: How could I grow from it?
• 33:36
  SPEAKER_03: And I'm so grateful, but that's what I love talking about because it keeps me humble, keeps me grounded.
• 33:39
  SPEAKER_03: And I hope there's a there's another dad listening, like uh your work doesn't define you.
• 33:46
  SPEAKER_03: It you know, even like you got a cool job as I lucky, I interviewed Mike Holmgren.
• 33:50
  SPEAKER_03: I've interviewed, you know, but I've also interviewed Stay At Home Dads.
• 33:53
  SPEAKER_03: I think I the goal of like these conversations, I'm hoping that we can help dads realize is that it's the values and their character traits define us, how we lead guides us or defines us.
• 34:04
  SPEAKER_03: The example we show, because we can say all the right things, but they're watching more than they're listening.
• 34:09
  SPEAKER_03: You know, so it's like trying to instill that in people.
• 34:12
  SPEAKER_03: But um yeah, patience is probably by far a number one answer over where dads want to improve on the show.
• 34:18
  SPEAKER_00: Hi, I'm Betsy Robinson, CEO of Tier 4 Group, a women-owned and diversity certified technology recruiting and executive search firm that connects exceptional talent with extraordinary companies in 43 states across the U.S.
• 34:33
  SPEAKER_00: At Tier 4 Group, relationships are at the heart of everything we do.
• 34:37
  SPEAKER_00: Whether it's with our clients, our candidates, our vendor partners, or with each other, our mission is to go beyond transactions and create long-lasting partnerships.
• 34:48
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• 34:53
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• 34:57
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• 35:02
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• 35:12
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• 35:14
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• 35:16
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• 35:23
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• 35:31
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• 35:42
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• 35:52
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• 35:56
  SPEAKER_00: You'll walk away inspired to strengthen your own relationships, both personally and professionally.
• 36:02
  SPEAKER_00: And as Casey always says, stay curious.
• 36:05
  SPEAKER_00: All right.
• 36:06
  SPEAKER_03: So talk about how did you get how does one leave central Missouri and say, and then fast forward 20 years you're the highly executive at Lumenfield and Seahawks.
• 36:15
  SPEAKER_03: How does one get on that path?
• 36:18
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you know, um, you know, that as I said, started in in restaurant business very young.
• 36:23
  SPEAKER_01: So when I went to college at uh central Missouri State, I also worked in restaurant throughout my entire entire time.
• 36:29
  SPEAKER_01: Eventually became a manager uh in there.
• 36:32
  SPEAKER_01: And um I originally wanted to be an elementary teacher.
• 36:35
  SPEAKER_01: So I went for three semesters at CMS, um, taking all elementary ed, which hindsight helped me with the kids' math when they got into elementary school because I took a little bit, you know, because the math changed, like when we were um and you know, I decided like I don't know, I love kids.
• 36:55
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know if I want to be a teacher.
• 36:56
  SPEAKER_01: I actually kind of got greedy because I didn't think they, you know, they don't get paid enough money.
• 36:59
  unknown: Right?
• 37:00
  SPEAKER_01: And so I kind of drove me.
• 37:02
  SPEAKER_01: Um realized that I was um pretty good at this this restaurant and and thought I was good at at um bleeding people, you know, whether that be in sports but also in uh in the work environment overall.
• 37:15
  SPEAKER_01: Um so I got in hotel restaurant administration.
• 37:18
  SPEAKER_01: Uh that was my functional major uh overall.
• 37:21
  SPEAKER_01: Um met with the the dean uh uh uh of that program um and there was an internship at the Kansas City Chiefs, Kansas City Royals for the company where my wife and I met uh overall.
• 37:34
  SPEAKER_01: It was a it was a paid internship, so it was an assistant concession manager um there.
• 37:39
  SPEAKER_01: So um actually the person that hired me, Jim Cundiff, uh great mentor, um, one of one of the great individuals that I've met.
• 37:48
  SPEAKER_01: He's actually officially retiring next week and having a party in my uh in a couple weeks.
• 37:53
  SPEAKER_01: My wife and I helped get back to KC to celebrate with him.
• 37:57
  SPEAKER_01: He took a chance.
• 37:58
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I was uh and I remember like I never got a call back, never got a call back.
• 38:02
  SPEAKER_01: I think I must have left him I bet 15 messages and finally he called me.
• 38:06
  SPEAKER_01: And I got to go up to the Coffin Stadium and and interview for that success manager, uh, full-time job into there.
• 38:14
  SPEAKER_01: Um and the rest was kind of history.
• 38:16
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I really enjoyed what I did.
• 38:18
  SPEAKER_01: I'm a you know, I I'm a I'm a I'm a big people person.
• 38:22
  SPEAKER_01: We just did our annual teammate training.
• 38:24
  SPEAKER_01: I'm from the Midwest, right?
• 38:26
  SPEAKER_01: And so uh I'm very approachable.
• 38:29
  SPEAKER_01: Um, you know, I love to say hi to people.
• 38:30
  SPEAKER_01: I like to try to get notes and names.
• 38:33
  SPEAKER_01: You have 2,500 employees, it's tough to do.
• 38:35
  SPEAKER_01: But walking around and doing that, uh, it was fun.
• 38:38
  SPEAKER_01: And so I spent um three more years in in Kansas City, became the assistant general manager for there, uh, and then uh moved to Louisville, Kentucky.
• 38:47
  SPEAKER_01: Um that was when my wife and I we got married in 2005, so we left until four.
• 38:52
  SPEAKER_01: So um there I worked for the University of Louisville, ran uh at that time it was called Top John's Cardinal Stadium and all of their other uh areas into there.
• 39:01
  SPEAKER_01: I became the general manager for the same company, you know, same company uh overall.
• 39:07
  SPEAKER_01: Um just really kept kind of growing.
• 39:09
  SPEAKER_01: I really wanted more.
• 39:11
  SPEAKER_01: Um was fortunate enough to have great teams uh and continue to build myself as a leader, um and continue trying to educate myself on how to how to continue to be a good leader.
• 39:21
  SPEAKER_01: But I I've had many my connection with people, um, and you know, I've had this in several reviews.
• 39:27
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, that's like one of my strongest suits, like my connection and my authenticness uh of of of who I am and and really being, you know, listening to people and whether that be frontline staff or senior leadership or community members or whatever that might be.
• 39:43
  SPEAKER_01: Um had more time in in 2008.
• 39:46
  SPEAKER_01: Uh my daughter was born, so we're still in Louisville.
• 39:49
  SPEAKER_01: And in 09, my son was born there.
• 39:51
  SPEAKER_01: Um ran a triple-A ball field, uh called Louisville Slugger Field, they're a triple A affiliate of the Cincinnati Reds.
• 39:58
  SPEAKER_01: Uh ran a Kentucky Derby Festival, uh, all with the same company.
• 40:02
  SPEAKER_01: And then I opened up K Yump Center in 2010.
• 40:05
  SPEAKER_01: Actually, opening date was 101010 overall, hard to believe, up 16 years ago.
• 40:10
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and that really progressed me um in my career path having opening a facility.
• 40:18
  SPEAKER_01: I built a team from the ground up.
• 40:20
  SPEAKER_01: I got to select a team, not only me, I had a great, great team and and tears, human resources and and the organization.
• 40:28
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but I started to get to learn a lot more about the event business than just food beverage.
• 40:35
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 40:35
  SPEAKER_01: You started to get into understanding a little bit about the facilities, maintenance, um, and and all the pieces raw.
• 40:42
  SPEAKER_01: Um I wasn't the first choice for for that one as well.
• 40:46
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, the the the um stadium uh the arena authority at that time, uh, I think they were looking for somebody that was a little more seasoned.
• 40:53
  SPEAKER_01: Um at that time I was pretty young back in 2010.
• 40:57
  SPEAKER_01: So I was in the young young 30s, right?
• 40:59
  SPEAKER_01: So 34.
• 41:00
  SPEAKER_01: Um and but I really matured uh in that moment, right?
• 41:05
  SPEAKER_01: And so because some of these individuals, I mean, they were probably in their late 60s, right?
• 41:08
  SPEAKER_01: They were in charge of that.
• 41:10
  SPEAKER_01: And and Kentucky is um such a number one, a gem of a place.
• 41:15
  SPEAKER_01: We'll absolutely love living there.
• 41:18
  SPEAKER_01: But it is a close-knit, um good old boys area.
• 41:24
  SPEAKER_01: Um it is and then that's really what it is.
• 41:26
  SPEAKER_01: There's uh a lot of great people, but there's a lot of there's a handful of people back in that time that kind of ran through because that's the way it was.
• 41:35
  SPEAKER_01: When some of them spoke, you listen to them, right?
• 41:38
  SPEAKER_01: You listen to one of what they said and and try to figure out what they're gonna think about, but you also listen, like, okay, now I know what this person overall.
• 41:47
  SPEAKER_01: So um fast forward, had an opportunity with the same organization to move to the bear.
• 41:54
  SPEAKER_01: I opened up uh Levi's Stadium again for general manager.
• 41:59
  SPEAKER_01: That one really changed everything because I was there kind of from the ground up from design, um, construction meetings, you know, leading foremans, um, you know, people that have been experts in their fields for 20 plus 30 years.
• 42:14
  SPEAKER_01: Um, how you know, again, building a very robust, strong team, um, but then really working closely with the 49ers ownership and leadership group on what they envisioned this experience to be because they were in candlestick for so many years, then moving down to Santa Clara, um, you know, that really provided me an opportunity to hone in on my um professionalism, but also my confidence as a presenter uh and as a as a leader, you know, talking to owners of NFL teams, um, which was you know very intimidating, quite honest with you, to be able to do that one.
• 42:51
  SPEAKER_01: So there was a I actually, Dr.
• 42:53
  SPEAKER_01: York, who obviously his son Jed York, CEO, now runs the organization, um, but got to go uh out to Napa uh with Dr.
• 43:02
  SPEAKER_01: York, who's a huge wine enthusiast, right?
• 43:04
  SPEAKER_01: So he was creating his chairman's assist.
• 43:06
  SPEAKER_01: Uh and we went to some boutique wine.
• 43:09
  SPEAKER_01: So here I am with Dr.
• 43:10
  SPEAKER_01: York drinking wine and selecting it for for the stadium for his chairman's assistant.
• 43:15
  SPEAKER_01: I it was just an unreal experience to be able to do that um and just sit down and just have a conversation with him.
• 43:24
  SPEAKER_01: You know, so many great mentors um from you know the company I you know met with Des Haig uh was a fantastic mentor who you know hand selected me for for this job uh there, and which was he overlooked me for another job at another NFL stadium a couple years prior for me to be hand selected.
• 43:44
  SPEAKER_01: Pretty pretty amazing uh overall.
• 43:46
  SPEAKER_01: I I still have so many great friends there, um, you know, and and really aspirations.
• 43:52
  SPEAKER_01: Um it was surreal for my current team to be able to win a Super Bowl at that exact stage.
• 44:00
  SPEAKER_01: Stadium.
• 44:00
  SPEAKER_01: You know, back to dad dadhood.
• 44:03
  SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna bring it back in a second.
• 44:04
  SPEAKER_01: So when we were in trailers building Levi's Stadium, my daughter was in kindergarten, and they had this stuffed frog that they got to take and go on field trips, and you'd go take pictures of it, do all this stuff.
• 44:18
  SPEAKER_01: So both of my kids, and it doesn't rain much in San Jose, just so you know, pouring down rain.
• 44:24
  SPEAKER_01: I remember this day vividly.
• 44:25
  SPEAKER_01: It was like 50 degrees, pouring down rain.
• 44:28
  SPEAKER_01: Here are both my kids standing in this parking lot, her holding her frog, and my son right next to her.
• 44:33
  SPEAKER_01: They're both shivering and taking a picture.
• 44:36
  SPEAKER_01: The stadium in fact.
• 44:37
  SPEAKER_01: We took that exact same picture at the Super Bowl, the exact same spot.
• 44:42
  SPEAKER_01: I remember exactly where it was.
• 44:44
  SPEAKER_01: So we didn't have the frog, tell you that.
• 44:47
  SPEAKER_01: But they're the same thing and everything.
• 44:49
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, I know I got kind of off heel, but that that moment was pretty cool uh to be able to experience that when she was at kindergarten in town, you know, senior high school for that one.
• 44:59
  SPEAKER_01: So fast forward, um, you know, this business is a lot about connections uh in the sports entertainment.
• 45:07
  SPEAKER_01: There's I like to say there's only a few of us that are crazy enough to do it because it is our fun.
• 45:13
  SPEAKER_01: There's a lot of reward uh in it uh overall.
• 45:16
  SPEAKER_01: But a good friend of mine, Bob Newell, um, who worked for the Chiefs, actually now does golf courses.
• 45:22
  SPEAKER_01: There was a job that came up here at um at Bloomens Field, but at that time it was Century League Field, Seahawks.
• 45:29
  SPEAKER_01: And he said, hey, you might be interested.
• 45:31
  SPEAKER_01: Uh and I said, okay, I'll take a look at it overall and um you know fast forward.
• 45:36
  SPEAKER_01: I was able to get that uh get that role and then continue to progress um in this organization.
• 45:42
  SPEAKER_01: It's such a great organization.
• 45:43
  SPEAKER_01: You know, we talked talked about you know hard knocks uh a little bit off off camera, but you know, that represents what it is.
• 45:50
  SPEAKER_01: Blessed to be a part of it.
• 45:52
  SPEAKER_01: You know, I've been the general manager now for you know five, I guess six years now in 2020.
• 45:58
  SPEAKER_01: This will be my 12th season.
• 46:00
  SPEAKER_01: This is the longest I've ever lived anywhere except for my childhood home and the longest I've ever been with, I've been with the other organization, but at one facility for all uh interesting to be.
• 46:11
  SPEAKER_01: But yeah, it's been humbling.
• 46:13
  SPEAKER_01: You know, I'm actually looking at my TV who show has a picture of the field because we have a soccer match tonight, but the sound playing tonight.
• 46:21
  SPEAKER_01: It's a uh ever-evolving uh business.
• 46:24
  SPEAKER_01: But you know, as I one of the things that I I think about my my father worked a lot, as I mentioned, he wasn't able to get to uh to a lot of my vet, right?
• 46:35
  SPEAKER_01: And I didn't I didn't travel as much overall, so no matter how busy I am, um I work really hard to balance my schedule, get my kids be school stuff, but definitely sports, and you know, just be able to you know share those moments because you don't get many of them.
• 46:53
  SPEAKER_01: They they they they go away quick.
• 46:55
  SPEAKER_01: I you know, I tell I tell young dads that I'm like, you know, people used to always tell me, like, oh, it's gonna go so fast.
• 47:01
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, ah, you know, and you look back and I'm like, I can't believe I know now.
• 47:06
  SPEAKER_03: I know you're it's so true.
• 47:08
  SPEAKER_03: It's it's cool.
• 47:09
  SPEAKER_03: Thanks for sharing that.
• 47:10
  SPEAKER_03: It's an interesting journey because I think most people don't realize probably how people get these jobs, so it's it's cool to hear your story.
• 47:16
  SPEAKER_03: Um now, so hard knocks, for those don't know, obviously HBO, Mac, and I've watched it a couple times, but I think because it's my team, it's so cool.
• 47:26
  SPEAKER_03: Um and I just love everything about what John Schneider and Mike McDonald are doing.
• 47:31
  SPEAKER_03: They're such such character guys and just consistency.
• 47:34
  SPEAKER_03: He's putting quarterback that played after me at Central.
• 47:37
  SPEAKER_03: He was on his staff last year for a little bit.
• 47:39
  SPEAKER_03: Now he's back to get him Zach Hill.
• 47:40
  SPEAKER_03: He's over in Boise State coaching.
• 47:43
  SPEAKER_03: But um I was he's lucky, I was lucky enough to get a tour of the practice facility before my son went to college, and it was just like this is insane.
• 47:52
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 47:52
  SPEAKER_03: Um, but uh do you do you think you're you ever like you do you're do you ever find yourself your kids are like, man, dad's pretty sweet?
• 48:00
  SPEAKER_03: Or they're like, eh, whatever, just my dad does this.
• 48:03
  SPEAKER_01: You know, um there there's a couple interesting stories.
• 48:07
  SPEAKER_01: I I'll talk about my daughter.
• 48:09
  SPEAKER_01: Taylor Swift came here in 2020.
• 48:12
  SPEAKER_01: Two nights, Taylor Swift, you know, and of course my my role, my job, you know, I got her sweet ticket, her and three of her friends.
• 48:19
  SPEAKER_01: Wow.
• 48:19
  SPEAKER_01: Um, you know, they had a blast.
• 48:21
  SPEAKER_01: Um and I said, Hey, you guys you want to come tonight?
• 48:25
  SPEAKER_01: I got sweet tickets.
• 48:26
  SPEAKER_01: It's like, well, I already saw her once.
• 48:28
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, I said the I was I'm like, so I at that point I looked at my wife, I'm like, what have we done?
• 48:33
  SPEAKER_01: What have we what have we created?
• 48:35
  SPEAKER_01: Uh into there.
• 48:36
  SPEAKER_01: I was like, I was like I told her, I'm like, how many hundred millions, millions of of ladies your age would feel for this experience?
• 48:44
  SPEAKER_01: And you're like, you know what?
• 48:46
  SPEAKER_01: I'm a little tired.
• 48:48
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but no, they they they appreciate it.
• 48:51
  SPEAKER_01: Um, you know, and the both of them were able to work at training camp.
• 48:55
  SPEAKER_01: So my daughter worked last year, my son worked this year.
• 48:58
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, and I, you know, as I put this to them, I'm like, you know, let me tell you about my first job, being a dish park.
• 49:04
  SPEAKER_01: So you're you're out there working on the VIP patio, right?
• 49:07
  SPEAKER_01: Just stocking fridges and and you know, rubbing elbows with VIPs and seeing the players overall.
• 49:13
  SPEAKER_01: So, so they get it.
• 49:14
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, they, you know, they they really um I think the older they've gotten, the more they appreciate it.
• 49:22
  SPEAKER_01: Um, you know, I I get several calls from from both of them, and oh, hey, I didn't know this person was at um you know at the arena in Seattle.
• 49:30
  SPEAKER_01: Can you get me tickets?
• 49:31
  SPEAKER_01: So I of course I can you know use some, you know, talk to a couple contacts into there.
• 49:36
  SPEAKER_01: Um that was you know great.
• 49:37
  SPEAKER_01: I think that you know, the ability for the four of us to go to a Super Bowl and actually, you know, watch that together, um, knowing that my daughter was a senior and going off college.
• 49:47
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, this may be it.
• 49:48
  SPEAKER_01: You know, my wife was like, we're not gonna pay this crazy amount of money.
• 49:52
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, well, we're going to pay this crazy amount.
• 49:54
  SPEAKER_01: I said, this doesn't come around very often.
• 49:57
  SPEAKER_01: I, you know, I've been in this business 25 years, every 26 years, every time I leave, the team either wins the World Series, the NCAA Championship, or Super Bowl.
• 50:07
  SPEAKER_01: And this is the first time I've ever been part of a champion.
• 50:10
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and so to be able to experience that's been pretty great.
• 50:13
  SPEAKER_01: So I think that they're they're starting to appreciate it.
• 50:15
  SPEAKER_01: My son actually uh wants to get in sports management.
• 50:19
  SPEAKER_01: Uh and uh he and uh because he really, you know, I said, it's a long journey.
• 50:25
  SPEAKER_01: I said, you know, I I and I said, you know, but you know, that's what you feel like he wants he wants to do.
• 50:30
  SPEAKER_01: I'm I'm here to support you, and you know, and I think a lot of it's because of he loves sports, but he also loves the connection um to the organization.
• 50:38
  SPEAKER_01: And obviously, you know, uh a lot of people think you know, they're like, oh, I want your job, your job is the greatest.
• 50:43
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, yeah, on the surface.
• 50:45
  SPEAKER_01: Uh but it is, I'm pretty special to be able to do what I do uh and very fortunate, uh, with this organization, but just as an individual, the experiences that I've been able to have.
• 50:57
  SPEAKER_02: Great.
• 50:58
  SPEAKER_02: So cool.
• 50:59
  SPEAKER_03: Um, okay, if you were to five years from now, you you run into somebody and they they they meet your kids and you you hope that they would say, Man, man, you've raised such good kids.
• 51:13
  SPEAKER_03: They are one, two, and three.
• 51:14
  SPEAKER_03: It would make you and Val the most proud.
• 51:16
  SPEAKER_03: Tell me what values would come to mind that they would say about your kids.
• 51:20
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I'm gonna go, I'm gonna go back to empathetic.
• 51:22
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, I want my kids to uh you know to be that.
• 51:25
  SPEAKER_01: I want them to be inclusive uh overall.
• 51:27
  SPEAKER_01: You know, we haven't been able to move our kids around.
• 51:30
  SPEAKER_01: I know I'm off topic, but if they've been able to get experiences that many people have not been able to, you know, if we lived in if we lived in Louisville or Kentucky for 20 years, they would not have got the same experience they had living in San Jose or in Seattle, and all the different things they've been able to meet overall.
• 51:47
  SPEAKER_02: So I think that inclusiveness uh overall.
• 51:50
  SPEAKER_01: Um I think pride uh in who they are, uh, you know, as an individual, I think is something that that's gonna be you know important.
• 52:01
  SPEAKER_02: Uh I think uh uh I'm gonna say tell everybody how great of a dad they have.
• 52:08
  SPEAKER_02: It's just not gonna happen.
• 52:10
  SPEAKER_01: Hey, you never know.
• 52:11
  SPEAKER_01: You never know.
• 52:12
  SPEAKER_02: Uh but yeah, I can go on and on.
• 52:14
  SPEAKER_03: It's a good one.
• 52:15
  SPEAKER_03: A lot of it, I think it's just um uh you know being consistent.
• 52:22
  SPEAKER_03: No matter what job we do, fundamentals always win, I'm convinced.
• 52:25
  SPEAKER_03: Um and just showing up.
• 52:29
  SPEAKER_03: Um I just and I'm as I'm getting older, I'm learning, as I mentioned earlier by curiosity, it's like before I want to coach and get on them, I just try to ask questions to spark their interest so they're ready to listen to me versus just hear me.
• 52:43
  SPEAKER_03: You know, because again, and one of my favorite pieces of advice someone gave me at 23 years old.
• 52:48
  SPEAKER_03: Like my leader asked me, he goes, Casey, you want to be right in life or do you want to get what you want?
• 52:52
  SPEAKER_03: More important.
• 52:53
  SPEAKER_03: And it was I told him both.
• 52:55
  SPEAKER_03: He says, Well, you can't you get a pick one.
• 52:56
  SPEAKER_03: I'm like, Well, I guess I want to get what I want.
• 52:58
  SPEAKER_03: He's like, That answer he's already project your ego at all times.
• 53:01
  SPEAKER_03: And so um, it's funny, even my son, he's see it, he's seen it in college so far, he's seen it um in other aspects of his life, and um that that's been kind of cool for me as a dad is to see like I it wasn't my wisdom, someone else brought it shared with me, and I'm sure someone else shared with that person, but it's just fun to be able to kind of see those those moments take take shape.
• 53:23
  SPEAKER_03: Um all right, if you were to summarize what we've talked today, Zach, that maybe a dad listening at home can say, Man, I that was a good conversation.
• 53:31
  SPEAKER_03: I learned a few things or a few themes that he can take into his own life, become that better ultimate quarterback or leader of his household.
• 53:40
  SPEAKER_03: Um, tell me what comes to mind.
• 53:42
  SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna go back to your one of your comments, but also resonates to me is that patience, you know, figure out ways um to learn your own patience and whatever that is.
• 53:53
  SPEAKER_01: But like if that's that's working out, that's meditating in a sauna, that's sitting in a cold plunge, if that's whatever it is, uh, into there.
• 54:01
  SPEAKER_01: And I think you know, um that's one of the one of the pieces or to your to your point, curiosity, like how can you help drive that?
• 54:08
  SPEAKER_01: And obviously it comes with age, but you know, I think that there are times where I reflect back on some decisions that I've made as a father where I could have handled it a hundred times better.
• 54:18
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, and and I think you know, I'm trying trying to really stick take that as as well.
• 54:23
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I would also say um relish in the moment, relish in the moment, uh, and and be able to find ways to to connect you know with your kids uh on on any level uh overall because that that relationship, man, it's it's great when they're young, but man, when they get older, it's uh I mean I almost got tears of my eyes thinking about you know the relationship I have with my kids now and um and you know kind of that and I just hope that that no, that relationship will continue.
• 54:55
  SPEAKER_02: Uh and it's really that uh that foundation that that we said that and and also I mean you know marry a champion like my wife.
• 55:05
  SPEAKER_01: Uh that's the that's one of the luckiest, luckiest things that I have into there, uh into there.
• 55:10
  SPEAKER_01: And you know, we don't I don't think we celebrate um our wives enough and mothers be what they've helped help us be and really nurture and and grow um our children and me as an individual as a dad.
• 55:24
  SPEAKER_03: Spot on, man.
• 55:25
  SPEAKER_03: Well said.
• 55:26
  SPEAKER_03: Um if people want to learn more about the Hawks, Lumen Field, maybe there's a younger dad.
• 55:31
  SPEAKER_03: Man, I'd like to get into the sports industry.
• 55:33
  SPEAKER_03: Is there is there a way we can like send people to learn more about your res organization for like future growth opportunities or future career opportunities?
• 55:40
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I mean, there's always um, you know, so Lumen Field has a website um that also has that and and has all postings in there um for for you know opportunities, will that be part-time?
• 55:50
  SPEAKER_01: You know, we have a lot of um individuals that have retired and come back and work um game day, right?
• 55:56
  SPEAKER_01: And to there, and then the Seahawks, you know, Seahawks organization, you know, we have many pillars of who we are.
• 56:03
  SPEAKER_01: Um, you know, we do so many things in the community uh overall.
• 56:06
  SPEAKER_01: So yeah, you know, Seahawks.com um where you can learn uh about our team, all the news about the team, but then you know if there's any opportunities for that as well.
• 56:15
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 56:16
  SPEAKER_03: Awesome.
• 56:17
  SPEAKER_03: We'll make sure that's linked in the show notes, everybody.
• 56:19
  SPEAKER_03: Zach, it's now time to go into the lightning round where I show you the negative hits have taken too many hits in college, not bong hits, but football hits.
• 56:26
  SPEAKER_03: And uh your job is to answer these questions as quickly as you can.
• 56:29
  SPEAKER_03: I hope to get a giggle out of you.
• 56:31
  SPEAKER_02: Do it.
• 56:32
  SPEAKER_03: Are you ready?
• 56:33
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 56:35
  SPEAKER_03: Uh true or false, you attended Central Missouri State on a rodeo scholarship.
• 56:40
  SPEAKER_02: False.
• 56:41
  SPEAKER_03: False.
• 56:41
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, I almost saw a giggle.
• 56:42
  SPEAKER_03: I'm not gonna pretend I didn't see that.
• 56:45
  SPEAKER_03: Um It couldn't last eight seconds.
• 56:47
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 56:48
  SPEAKER_03: Tell me your the the coolest uh experience you've ever had in the job you have in the brief amount of time you can say it.
• 56:58
  SPEAKER_01: Uh U.S.
• 56:59
  SPEAKER_01: men's national team.
• 57:01
  SPEAKER_01: Uh hoisting a Super Bowl trophy, meeting my wife.
• 57:05
  SPEAKER_03: There you go.
• 57:06
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that's right.
• 57:07
  SPEAKER_03: That's that's Royals.
• 57:08
  SPEAKER_03: That's right.
• 57:09
  SPEAKER_03: Good answer.
• 57:10
  SPEAKER_03: What would be one genre of music that might surprise your employees that you listen to?
• 57:15
  SPEAKER_01: Man, my playlist is all over the place.
• 57:19
  SPEAKER_01: Uh I love classical.
• 57:20
  SPEAKER_01: Um, dig it.
• 57:22
  SPEAKER_01: Uh I dig um um deep sleep music even during the day, kind of mellows me out um because of the way I do that as well.
• 57:30
  SPEAKER_01: Uh I'm pretty heavy into rap uh as well.
• 57:33
  SPEAKER_01: Younger rap, you know, beast boys and and pock and everybody else like that.
• 57:37
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know if that's a surprise.
• 57:39
  SPEAKER_01: Um but yeah.
• 57:41
  SPEAKER_03: Love it.
• 57:41
  SPEAKER_03: We have we have a lot of 90s rap followers on this podcast from dads, which is nice if we're keeping Tupac and Big Biggie going.
• 57:49
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 57:49
  SPEAKER_01: I actually I I really enjoy um Gavin the Girl still, you know, just yeah, love him.
• 57:55
  SPEAKER_01: Um so I don't know people will you know probably they think for him for one song, but flag all is music.
• 58:00
  SPEAKER_03: There we go.
• 58:01
  SPEAKER_03: Um favorite comedy movie of all time is I mean uh Wedding Crashers is up there.
• 58:08
  SPEAKER_03: Um Catalina wine mixer.
• 58:10
  SPEAKER_01: Gotta be gotta be up there.
• 58:12
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that's a good one.
• 58:13
  SPEAKER_03: Um if there was to be a book written about your life, tell me the title.
• 58:17
  SPEAKER_01: Five six on his driver's license, five five in real life.
• 58:22
  SPEAKER_03: Solid.
• 58:22
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 58:23
  SPEAKER_03: Now I'm I've I travel a little bit in my job, actually more than I sometimes want to, but I've been looking for this book, and everywhere I go, it's sold out.
• 58:30
  SPEAKER_03: I went to Amazon, sold out.
• 58:31
  SPEAKER_03: Barnes Noble, sold out.
• 58:33
  SPEAKER_03: So, Zach, we're gonna make a movie of this bad boy.
• 58:36
  SPEAKER_03: You're now the casting director for Netflix.
• 58:39
  SPEAKER_03: I need to know who's gonna star Zach Hensley in this critically acclaimed hit new movie on Netflix.
• 58:44
  SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna go back old school.
• 58:45
  SPEAKER_01: He's one of my favorite actors.
• 58:47
  SPEAKER_01: He's no longer with us.
• 58:48
  SPEAKER_01: Um be taller than me, but Jimmy Stewart.
• 58:51
  SPEAKER_03: Hey, good choice.
• 58:52
  SPEAKER_03: This might be the first Jimmy Stewart call-up.
• 58:54
  SPEAKER_03: Well said.
• 58:55
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 58:55
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 58:56
  SPEAKER_03: And then the last, the most important question I love asking dads tell me two words that would describe your wife.
• 59:01
  SPEAKER_02: I give you a hundred.
• 59:03
  SPEAKER_02: Um amazing.
• 59:07
  SPEAKER_02: Uh he's the hub of all of us.
• 59:14
  SPEAKER_03: There we go.
• 59:15
  SPEAKER_03: I love I like how that's the one word that is like spokes everything.
• 59:18
  SPEAKER_03: So you knocked out a bunch of where is a strategic answer by Mr.
• 59:21
  SPEAKER_03: Hensley.
• 59:22
  SPEAKER_03: This has been a blast.
• 59:23
  SPEAKER_03: I've been I love learning about you.
• 59:24
  SPEAKER_03: Shout out to Gina Schultz for making this connection happen.
• 59:27
  SPEAKER_03: Thank you for your time, uh, generosity.
• 59:29
  SPEAKER_03: Uh love learning more about your story.
• 59:31
  SPEAKER_03: Um, I love how um as a busy executor, you're hands-on dad, and you seem like a dad with some priorities.
• 59:38
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, and you don't need to be a GM of a stadium.
• 59:41
  SPEAKER_03: You don't need to be uh whether you're a bus driver, a breeze, you work at home people, it don't matter, ma'am.
• 59:45
  SPEAKER_03: These are both these episodes to really focus on values to make us um focus on leadership, focus on driving connections, teaching values that are gonna make our kids the most successful people, whatever they decide to do.
• 59:58
  SPEAKER_03: Again, their journey is not ours.
• 1:00:00
  SPEAKER_03: Obviously, our job is bad to stay out of jail.
• 1:00:03
  SPEAKER_03: But um man's phenomenal spend time with these deck.
• 1:00:06
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• 1:00:10
  SPEAKER_03: It's uh always a gift we can get some goals to help inspiring other dads around around the country, or maybe around the world one day.
• 1:00:17
  SPEAKER_03: But um for stage command or fast will cross in the future.
• 1:00:20
  SPEAKER_03: But um until then go.
• 1:00:23
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I agree.
• 1:00:24
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• 1:00:26
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