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The Rita Panahi Show | 20 April · The Rita Panahi Show

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Speaker 1: On scors Australia. This is the Reader Panalty Show.
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Speaker 2: Good evening and welcome to the Reader Panety Show coming
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Speaker 2: up tonight. The Coalition closes the gap with One Nation
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Speaker 2: in the latest newsport Dan Wile will cover that. In
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Speaker 2: the day's other top headlines, the one billion dollar Renewable
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Speaker 2: Energy Investment Fund is yet to invest a single dollar.
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Speaker 2: The Implymer will join me to discuss that. Josh Hammer
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Speaker 2: will have the latest from the US, including the difficulties
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Speaker 2: of achieving a lasting cease fire with a deeply fractured
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Speaker 2: Iranian regime, and later in the hour, Kinsey Schofield weighs
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Speaker 2: in on the issue of whether Meghan Markle is the
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Speaker 2: most trolled person in the world and Left is losing.
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Speaker 2: It features a couple of leftist ideologue spending some quality
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Speaker 2: time with young minds r.
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Speaker 3: Wow.
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Speaker 2: But first. One Nation's primary vote has dropped three points
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Speaker 2: as the party faces increased pressure from a more assertive coalition.
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Speaker 2: The latest newspoll has One Nation sitting at twenty four percent,
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Speaker 2: the Coalition on twenty one and Labor ahead on thirty
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Speaker 2: one percent. Anthony Albanesi holds a nine point margin over
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Speaker 2: Angus Taylor as preferred prime Minister and NEWSPAOL also asked
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Speaker 2: what voters whether they endorsed any of the measures being
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Speaker 2: considered by Treasurer Jim Chalmers, things like increasing revenue streams
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Speaker 2: in the budget. It found that forty two percent of
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Speaker 2: voters supported increasing the petroleum resuls rent tax and only
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Speaker 2: thirty five percent supported reducing tax concessions for property investors.
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Speaker 2: Joining me now is the Institute of Public Affairs executive
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Speaker 2: director Daniel Wilde Dan. The poll also revealed twenty seven
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Speaker 2: percent favored tax inheritances of more than a million dollars.
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Speaker 2: Labor does love the politics of envy, and I think
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Speaker 2: we're going to get a fair dose of that in
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Speaker 2: this budget.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: I think that's a pretty safe bet. You know, these
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Speaker 4: policies are typically popular with Labor and Green's voters, even
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Speaker 4: if they're not that popular with the public at large.
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Speaker 4: And what was interesting about all of those proposed revenue
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Speaker 4: measures is none of them were above fifty percent for
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Speaker 4: the public as a whole. So it will be interesting
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Speaker 4: to see. I think, more generally, when you look at
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Speaker 4: the news poll, I think that Matt Canavan, assuming the
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Speaker 4: leadership of the Nationals, has made a very big difference,
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Speaker 4: and that probably explains a significant part of why the
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Speaker 4: Coalition has basically started to close the gap anyway with
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Speaker 4: one nation. He's been very assertive, very direct on policies,
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Speaker 4: and also I think critically he's somebody who has been
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Speaker 4: consistent over many many years on policies like net zero,
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Speaker 4: where he was opposed to it from the very start.
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Speaker 4: And so you know, when you look at it, I
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Speaker 4: suspect it's actually the Nationals that are dragging up the
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Speaker 4: coalition vote rather than the Liberal Party at this point
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Speaker 4: in time. But now that the Liberals have rolled out
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Speaker 4: the immigration policy, which I think is a very strong policy,
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Speaker 4: I suspect that that will curry favor with the public
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Speaker 4: as well.
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Speaker 2: Yes, well, we need to see some numbers. They're talking
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Speaker 2: about values, which is fantastic, but let's see what that
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Speaker 2: target figure is for the immigration policy. They're sitting on
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Speaker 2: that at the moment. And I think, Dan, we're going
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Speaker 2: to hear this term intergenerational inequity a lot as Labor
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Speaker 2: try to sell this budget. How do you think that's
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Speaker 2: going to go over with the Australian public. We are
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Speaker 2: in a cost of living crisis and I think it's
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Speaker 2: quite an easy sell to pit Australians against each other
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Speaker 2: and say people are earning more than you should carry
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Speaker 2: even more of the weight.
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Speaker 1: I think that's right.
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Speaker 4: The intergenerational equity is probably going to be a code
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Speaker 4: word for tax increases, so I think we need to
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Speaker 4: keep an eye out for that. There is a genuine
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Speaker 4: issue with the next generation of Australians coming through and
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Speaker 4: the kind of economic opportunities that they have, particularly as
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Speaker 4: it relates to home ownership, but also the job market,
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Speaker 4: what kind of jobs are available to them, and in
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Speaker 4: many ways they are victims of a broken set of institutions,
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Speaker 4: in particular our education institutions, our schools and universities are
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Speaker 4: not only not preparing younger Australians for a job, but
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Speaker 4: they're also basically leaving them with a broken culture and
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Speaker 4: a divided culture, teaching them very negative things about Australia
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Speaker 4: and our history and our place in the world. So
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Speaker 4: it is true that there's an intergenerational problem there, but
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Speaker 4: the issue is often when labor approaches this issue, it's
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Speaker 4: just to increase taxes on those who have gotten ahead
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Speaker 4: and redistributed it, like they did with the hex when
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Speaker 4: they took twenty percent of Hex's debt if you've got HEX,
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Speaker 4: but what about if you don't go to university, or
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Speaker 4: what about if he did go to university and you
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Speaker 4: paid off your HEX yourself. I always thought that policy
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Speaker 4: was terribly unfair.
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Speaker 2: Now to Ben Roberts Smith, who's made his first public
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Speaker 2: statement since being granted bail, Australia's most decorated veterans, spent
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Speaker 2: nine nights in custody after he was charged with five
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Speaker 2: counts of the war crime of murder. He has not
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Speaker 2: entered pleas to the charges, but has consistently maintained his innocence.
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Speaker 5: As I've always maintained. I categorically deny all of these allegations,
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Speaker 5: and while I would have preferred these charges not being brought,
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Speaker 5: I will be taking this opportunity to finally clear my name.
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Speaker 5: I'm proud of my service in Afghanistan. While I was there,
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Speaker 5: I always acted within my values, within my training, and
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Speaker 5: within the rules of engagement.
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Speaker 2: And he had this to say about the manner he
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Speaker 2: was arrested. As he asked for for his family.
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Speaker 1: I would ask.
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Speaker 5: That the media please allow my family the privacy at
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Speaker 5: this time, particularly my children who have already unfortunately suffered
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Speaker 5: through a deliberate sensational arrest that was made last week
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Speaker 5: an unnecessary spectacle.
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Speaker 2: Dan his lawyers are also considering an application to permanently
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Speaker 2: hold proceedings because of concerns that he may not get
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Speaker 2: a fair trial.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: Well, I think these concerns are pretty well founded. It
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Speaker 4: would be difficult to have a completely untainted trial, given
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Speaker 4: his profile, and given the nature of the accusations that
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Speaker 4: are made, and also given the media spectacle that Ben
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Speaker 4: Robert Smith rightly referred to. I do think that the
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Speaker 4: way in which he was arrested was curious. Obviously the
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Speaker 4: media was tipped off, and obviously it was designed to
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Speaker 4: generate a certain spectacle around it, which questions as to
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Speaker 4: the manner in which this has been undertaken. I think
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Speaker 4: the other issue here is the amount of time. You know,
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Speaker 4: this has been ten years that this process has been underway.
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Speaker 4: And if he has transgressed, or if he has done
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Speaker 4: something wrong, then sure he should be held to account
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Speaker 4: as anyone should be. But it's hard to understand as
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Speaker 4: to why this is taking year after year. And that's
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Speaker 4: not to mention the morale impact that this must be
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Speaker 4: having on others in the military. I mean, we need
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Speaker 4: more people putting their hand up to sign up to
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Speaker 4: our military at this time. We need more money in defense,
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Speaker 4: and I think this is just going to have the
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Speaker 4: negative effect, which says to people basically, if you're accused
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Speaker 4: of something, then you're going to be hung up in
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Speaker 4: front of the media. I just don't think that's very helpful.
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Speaker 2: And there were reports over the weekend about some of
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Speaker 2: the people testifying against him being granted immunity after admitting
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Speaker 2: to killings, So that in itself, I think raises all
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Speaker 2: sorts of questions if someone has admitted to killing somebody
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Speaker 2: and that granted immunity in exchange for their testimony against
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Speaker 2: Ben Robert Smith. Now let's talk about Green Senator Marine Ferruki.
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Speaker 2: She was confronted by activists Pete Zagoulis at Sydney University
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Speaker 2: over the weekend after she voted against the motion to
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Speaker 2: investigate fraud in the ndis.
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Speaker 6: Hey, Marine Ferruki, why did you vote no to Pauline
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Speaker 6: Hanson's motion to investigate ndis froud.
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Speaker 7: Why is she touching me? You can't touch me.
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Speaker 8: I just want to know why are you so against it?
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Speaker 9: I don't understand, Dan.
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Speaker 2: Why can't she answer that simple question. Surely a senator
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Speaker 2: can articulate why she voted against a certain bill. I
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Speaker 2: find the whole spectacle there curious. She's got her little
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Speaker 2: posse tried to interfere with the cameras and the independent
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Speaker 2: journalists there instead of just simply answering the question.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I would have thought it's fairly straightforward to give
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Speaker 4: an answer. And it's always the case that when you're
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Speaker 4: walking away from someone asking questions, it looks like something
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Speaker 4: is a bit suss, even if it's not. It just
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Speaker 4: looks like you don't want to take the question. And
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Speaker 4: if you don't want to take the question, people assume
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Speaker 4: that you've got something to hide. And clearly, when we
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Speaker 4: look at NDIS, there's a massive issue with the spending,
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Speaker 4: with the fraud, with the waste, with the abuse of
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Speaker 4: that system, and we need to look into it. I
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Speaker 4: think it's pretty obvious the amount of money that's being spent,
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Speaker 4: the growth in spending on the NDIS is way faster
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Speaker 4: than the growth of our entire economy, meaning that the
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Speaker 4: NDIS is chewing up more and more of our economy
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Speaker 4: every single year. I would have thought it's entirely sensible
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Speaker 4: to look into that matter, and if you don't want
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Speaker 4: to look into it, then you know there should be
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Speaker 4: an explanation.
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Speaker 2: Now. One Nation MP Barnaby Joyce has called out the
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Speaker 2: government for its failure to prepare for the Iran war.
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Speaker 2: Speaking to Sunrise Is said Australia needed to deal with
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Speaker 2: the cards that have been dealt.
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Speaker 10: We've got to prepare souls better in the future. We
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Speaker 10: were not prepared for this and if something like this
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Speaker 10: happens again, when it concludes, and we all hope and
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Speaker 10: pray that it does as soon as possible, we have
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Speaker 10: got to be vastly better prepared than we were this time.
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Speaker 10: Because this is in some areas, this is a train
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Speaker 10: wreck and it's getting worse economically.
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Speaker 2: It's hard to argue with that. We've been entirely reactive
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Speaker 2: throughout this entire crisis. The PM claimed over the weekend
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Speaker 2: that Australia has always backed and end to hostilities in Iran,
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Speaker 2: which is precisely what the Iranian regime would want. I
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Speaker 2: would have thought Australia wouldn't want the Iranian regime to continue.
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Speaker 2: There seems to be no moral clarity, There seems to
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Speaker 2: be no medium to long term planning it's all the
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Speaker 2: focus is on what's happening this week.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, stay today politics, which is dictated pretty much the
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Speaker 4: government's entire foreign policy approach, whether it's Iran, whether it's
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Speaker 4: the issue in the Middle East and anti Semitism and
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Speaker 4: so forth. It's all been about politics and this is
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Speaker 4: no exception. I think what Barnaby Joyce said is one
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Speaker 4: hundred percent right. We have to be more prepared. I mean,
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Speaker 4: how can we be in a situation where we are
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Speaker 4: an energy rich country, whether it's oil, gas, coal, uranium.
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Speaker 4: We have now a shortage or a potential shortage of
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Speaker 4: liquid fuels where we import ninety percent of our liquid fuels. Now,
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Speaker 4: the blame for that is not just on this government.
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Speaker 4: This has been happening for a long time. It was
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Speaker 4: Scott Morrison who brought in net zero, which was sort
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Speaker 4: of a nail in the coffin of a lot of
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Speaker 4: those refineries who can't afford to pay the price of
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Speaker 4: these policies. But nonetheless, we need to be better prepared.
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Speaker 4: There's no reason we can't be there's no reason we
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Speaker 4: can't be more self sufficient. I guess the only reason
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Speaker 4: really is short sighted political leadership that, as I say,
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Speaker 4: is focused on day to day politics rather than the
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Speaker 4: long term interests of our country.
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Speaker 2: Well that needs seem to be deviating from their net
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Speaker 2: zero ambitions at all. This crisis isn't serving as a
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Speaker 2: wake up called to perhaps look at the fact that
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Speaker 2: we are resource reach. We could be energy independent and
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Speaker 2: completely avoid the current issues we're seeing and also become
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Speaker 2: an energy superpower, be able to provide other countries with
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Speaker 2: the resources we have. But that hasn't even come into
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Speaker 2: the thinking thus far.
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Speaker 4: Dan, No, it hasn't, and I don't think it will. Unfortunately,
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Speaker 4: I think you're spot on with that, Iran. If anything else,
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Speaker 4: should have been an off ramp for Chris Bowen and
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Speaker 4: the climate change ideology, and it's becoming clearer by the
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Speaker 4: day to Australians. So this just isn't working in our
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Speaker 4: national interests. I mean, we have to be able to
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Speaker 4: make things. We have to be able to build things
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Speaker 4: in our country. In order to do that, we have
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Speaker 4: to have cheap energy. I mean, you can't manufacture anything
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Speaker 4: in this country because it is too expensive to do so.
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Speaker 4: And I'm not saying that our energy costs are the
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Speaker 4: only factor, but they are a key factor. And it
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Speaker 4: is also something that we can pull the lever on.
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Speaker 4: I mean, we're not these aren't just externally determined the
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Speaker 4: conditions that we need to respond to. We can control
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Speaker 4: the costs in our economy, at least as it relates
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Speaker 4: to our energy costs. And as you say, not only that,
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Speaker 4: but we can really achieve a lot of economic gains
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Speaker 4: and growth through exporting our resources, which can earn a
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Speaker 4: lot of revenue for us.
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Speaker 2: Daniel will thank you so much for your time tonight. Now,
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Speaker 2: while the Prime Minister has been to the likes of
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Speaker 2: Singapore and Malaysia asking for more fuel, he has ignored
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Speaker 2: our biggest ally, the US, which also happens to be
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Speaker 2: the biggest producer of gas and oil in the world.
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Speaker 2: Liberal Senator Dave Sharma was on nine's Today's Show where
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Speaker 2: he called on the PM to make the trip to Washington.
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Speaker 11: The US is the world's largest export of fining PEP products,
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Speaker 11: export about six million barrels of oil the day, equivalent
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Speaker 11: our consumptions about one million. That was there, bigger exporter
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Speaker 11: than Singapore, bigger export than South Korea, bigger export than Malaysia.
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Speaker 11: And it will also give the Prime Minister a chance
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Speaker 11: to talk the US President and key administration figures about
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Speaker 11: how to resolve this conflict. So the stratiform moves does
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Speaker 11: get reover that.
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Speaker 2: Jody me now is Professor Ian Plimer, executive director at
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Speaker 2: Hancock Prospecting and the leading author and geologist Ian why
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Speaker 2: are we not going to the US? They also have
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Speaker 2: the advantage of not being reliant on the Middle East
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Speaker 2: for their oil, which is more than can be said
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Speaker 2: about Singapore and Malaysia.
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Speaker 3: Well, mister Albanizi has made fundamental errors and he continues
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Speaker 3: to do it now. Senator Sharma is absolutely correct. Albanizi
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Speaker 3: should be in Washington. Albanizi should be talking about defense deals,
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Speaker 3: about fuel, about food security, all sorts of things with
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Speaker 3: the President of the US. Now he spent fifty thousand
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Speaker 3: liters of fuel to go to various parts of Asia
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Speaker 3: to get us one day of fuel. It's just nuts.
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Speaker 3: He just hasn't got it right. So he continues to
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Speaker 3: get things wrong. And if he was a visionary Prime minister,
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Speaker 3: he would say, well, we're an island.
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Speaker 1: Nation, we need to be self sufficient.
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Speaker 3: We have a large amount of petroleum resources sitting in
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Speaker 3: Commonwealth waters. We should be drilling those just in case
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Speaker 3: his Union mates and Greenie mates like to demonstrate and
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Speaker 3: cause trouble. We could build a super refinery on Commonwealth territory.
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Speaker 3: Javis Bay would make a wonderful port. But what he's
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Speaker 3: looking at is very short term band aids rather than
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Speaker 3: a long term solution to a problem that's been in
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Speaker 3: Australia for decades.
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Speaker 7: Now.
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Speaker 3: He could talk to his mates in the unions and
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Speaker 3: get cheaper coastal travel, and rather than sending our fuel
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Speaker 3: from the Northwest Shelf up to Singapore to be refined
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Speaker 3: and then come back across sea west to Australia, we
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Speaker 3: could get it around the Australian coast. Australian coastal shipping
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Speaker 3: is enormously due to his mates in the unions. Now
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Speaker 3: he needs to start thinking about Australia rather than rewarding
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Speaker 3: his mates and trying to stay in power.
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Speaker 2: And it would undoubtedly improve relations between Australia and the US.
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Speaker 2: The US and Trump administration has certainly been unhappy with
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Speaker 2: Australia on a number of fronts, so it's just a
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Speaker 2: win win. We get the fuel we need, we improve
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Speaker 2: relations with the US. And yet it seems to be
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Speaker 2: something that hasn't even been contemplated with this government.
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Speaker 3: Well, I just think that they have Trump derangement syndrome.
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Speaker 3: These lifelong socialists don't want to talk to Republicans who
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Speaker 3: are rebuilding the US. They can't see past their ideology,
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Speaker 3: which is to stay in power. Now we should be
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Speaker 3: talking to mister Trump, who should be shirt fronting Albow
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Speaker 3: and alban Ez. He should be saying, well, yes, we
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Speaker 3: have provided support in the Middle East and you've got
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Speaker 3: it wrong. He should be standing up to mister Trump
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Speaker 3: and saying, we have been allies for a very very
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Speaker 3: long period of time. In the last major World War,
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Speaker 3: the US lost four hundred thousand troops by looking after
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Speaker 3: their allies. So we can surely build on this relationship.
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Speaker 3: And rather than damaging the US and rather than damaging
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Speaker 3: the US as other parties and friends like Israel, we
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Speaker 3: should be either abstaining or voting with the US in
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Speaker 3: the UN, we have to do the same thing. We're
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Speaker 3: an isolated country. We actually have to carry the load ourselves.
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Speaker 3: You can't go bludging to some of our neighbors in
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Speaker 3: Asia for a day's worth of fuel.
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Speaker 1: What a waste of taxpayers money.
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Speaker 2: Now, the New South Wales government's flagship one billion dollar
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Speaker 2: Renewable Energy Investment Front is yet to invest a single
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Speaker 2: dollar in almost three years since Labor took offers. The
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Speaker 2: Energy Security Corporation offers investments between twenty five and one
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Speaker 2: hundred and fifty million to get renewable projects off the ground.
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Speaker 2: The Department Secretary Anthony Lean told the Budget Estimates Hearing
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Speaker 2: the corporation was in discussions with a number of potential
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Speaker 2: projects but was yet to close any deals. What's causing
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Speaker 2: these delaysian.
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Speaker 3: Not one word in competence. These people have got a
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Speaker 3: bucketful of money. They are getting paid. They're not actually
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Speaker 3: using the money to give us reliable, cheap electricity, which
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Speaker 3: we used to have in this country with coal, and
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Speaker 3: we just cannot get there with renewables.
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Speaker 1: They're horrendously expensive.
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Speaker 3: We are feeding China with bucket loads of money. We
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Speaker 3: are destroying our good farm land. We have oil basins
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Speaker 3: which we're not drilling. We have fertile land which we're
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Speaker 3: covering with solar and wind facilities. We are destroying the
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Speaker 3: environment with killing birds, bats and koalas and prestine forests.
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Speaker 3: We're contaminating soils with toxic chemicals from wind, turbine blades
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Speaker 3: and from solar panels.
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Speaker 1: When are they going to wake up?
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Speaker 3: The defense of this country needs cheap, reliable electricity. We
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Speaker 3: do not and cannot be in the hands of others.
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Speaker 3: And this is what our taxpayers money tucked aside in
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Speaker 3: a fund, should be looking at. We should be looking
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Speaker 3: at the long term support of this country, the economic support,
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Speaker 3: that defence support, the environmental support.
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Speaker 1: And of course there's a.
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Speaker 3: Moral argument, wine the hell do we destroy destroy the
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Speaker 3: environment to enrich foreign companies who are quite hostile to us.
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Speaker 3: So I'm pleased that they haven't spent any money. And
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Speaker 3: if they are going to spend money, maybe they should
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Speaker 3: be building patrolling refineries, gas fined power stations, the nuclear
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Speaker 3: fied powers. But keep away from the wind and keep
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Speaker 3: away from the sun, because contrary to what mister Bowen says,
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Speaker 3: he doesn't seem to realize that the sun sets every
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Speaker 3: day and we can't get solar power up night, the
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Speaker 3: wind doesn't blow all the time. We know that from Europe,
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Speaker 3: where they've spent billions going down that we should be
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Speaker 3: preserving our billions and not going down the same path.
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Speaker 2: We seem to have learned zero lessons from what has
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Speaker 2: happened in Europe. We think we would look at that
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Speaker 2: example and have some learnings from it. Im PLMA, thank
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Speaker 2: you so much for your time. Thank you still to Karma.
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Speaker 2: Left is losing outpass all the lads from the US,
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Speaker 2: including the difficulties of achieving a lasting cease fire with
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Speaker 2: a deeply fractured Iranian regime. Josh Hammer is up next.
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Speaker 2: You're watching the Reader Paney Show, and it's time for
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Speaker 2: Left his losing head. And let's start with a man
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Speaker 2: who's not only hopelessly ineft, but is also dangerous, a
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Speaker 2: true hard left ideologue. Here is Minnesota governor and failed
21:13
Speaker 2: VP candidate Tampon Tim Walls in Spain, calling his political
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Speaker 2: opponents fascists.
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Speaker 12: We've got a feeble minded, trigger happy president who plunged
21:24
Speaker 12: us into a war where no threat was present, with
21:27
Speaker 12: no clear objectives and no exit plan. We need to
21:35
Speaker 12: call that what it is. That's fascism, or at least
21:39
Speaker 12: it's fascist. Curious, as they would be, first.
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Speaker 2: Question, why is he in Spain? And why does a
21:46
Speaker 2: man his age not understand a term like fascism and
21:50
Speaker 2: yet he insists on using that word over and over again.
21:54
Speaker 2: Let's stay with the Democrats, and hear from a blue
21:56
Speaker 2: head Congresswoman Rosa Deloro, who has having a meltdown about milk.
22:03
Speaker 13: If I were the head of HHS, I would buy
22:05
Speaker 13: God say don't take raw milk is dangerous to your health.
22:10
Speaker 13: And if you can't say that, well, maybe there's some
22:13
Speaker 13: other conclusions that can be drawn.
22:15
Speaker 2: Oh darn to New York now, and this is the
22:18
Speaker 2: Democrat's future Marxism. Here is Zoran ma'am Dani and former
22:23
Speaker 2: President barackos and Obama doing story time. It's never too
22:27
Speaker 2: early to indoctrinate young minds, comrades, right, you know, I
22:43
Speaker 2: think I preferred drag queens doing story time compared to that.
22:47
Speaker 2: And that brings me to transactivist Lily Tino. Here he
22:51
Speaker 2: dresses up as children's entertainer Miss Rachel to speak to
22:55
Speaker 2: the young uns. And he claims here that your gender
22:58
Speaker 2: is determined by the the doctor gives.
23:01
Speaker 9: You what and you say, cis gender? Good job? But
23:07
Speaker 9: what does cis gender mean? When somebody is born, the
23:11
Speaker 9: doctor gives them a hat. Which hat you get is
23:14
Speaker 9: a really big deal because it tells the world a
23:17
Speaker 9: lot about you. Hopefully the hat that the doctor gives you.
23:21
Speaker 2: Fits Yeah, the doctor just gives you a hat biological reality,
23:26
Speaker 2: nothing to do with it. I'm loving this analogy. I
23:28
Speaker 2: want to have fi he can stretch these sis trans
23:32
Speaker 2: terms to the moon and back.
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Speaker 9: Some people think that trans and cis are bad words,
23:38
Speaker 9: but they're not. They're just opposites, like up or down,
23:41
Speaker 9: or left or right. Everyone uses cis and trans, even astronauts.
23:46
Speaker 9: For example, Let's say an astronaut blasts off from Earth
23:49
Speaker 9: towards the Moon. Sis means the same side, So when
23:53
Speaker 9: the astronaut is on the same side of the Moon
23:56
Speaker 9: as Earth is, they are in cis. Lunar trans means
24:01
Speaker 9: opposite side. So once you blast off past the Moon
24:05
Speaker 9: onto the other side, you are in trans lunar space.
24:10
Speaker 2: Netflix is going to give that dude to show any
24:13
Speaker 2: minute now. Just you wait now, while the hysterical lefties
24:17
Speaker 2: and the pannikins on the right work themselves into a
24:20
Speaker 2: frenzy with their hair brain analysis of the Iran War.
24:24
Speaker 2: He is a thirty second summary of Donald Trump's recent
24:27
Speaker 2: foreign policy outcomes from a social media content provider who
24:32
Speaker 2: manages to deliver sharper analysis than the pundits on many
24:36
Speaker 2: of the major networks.
24:38
Speaker 6: Trump is such a jerk. He threatened to attack Panami.
24:40
Speaker 6: Trump just kicked China out of Panama, so they have
24:42
Speaker 6: no influence.
24:43
Speaker 3: Now.
24:43
Speaker 6: Trump is illegally took Maduau out of Venezuela. We control
24:46
Speaker 6: all of Venezuela's oil now, and we've completely kicked China
24:49
Speaker 6: out of the Western hemisphere. Trump is just like Hitler.
24:52
Speaker 6: He's threatening to invade Greenland. Greenland just made a deal
24:54
Speaker 6: with us and we're working great together.
24:56
Speaker 1: Now.
24:57
Speaker 6: Trump is so stupid. He just attacked Iran and we
24:59
Speaker 6: can't win that. And if they shut down a straight
25:01
Speaker 6: uprom moves, the world's going to run out of energy.
25:03
Speaker 6: Everyone's sending their oil tankers to America to buy American energy.
25:06
Speaker 6: Now we've officially become the number one energy provider of
25:08
Speaker 6: the world.
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Speaker 2: How think you're doing that? The focus is always America first,
25:13
Speaker 2: and you see, it's all about the outcomes, while the
25:16
Speaker 2: media frantic about the process and the mean tweets, you know,
25:20
Speaker 2: the very tactics that get the results. Joining me now
25:25
Speaker 2: is Newsweek's senior editor at large, Josh Hammer. Josh, they
25:29
Speaker 2: never learned, do they. It's sad that you've got some
25:32
Speaker 2: jokester on the internet. A content creator on social media,
25:36
Speaker 2: giving sharper analysis than a lot of what we're hearing
25:40
Speaker 2: on CNN, NBCCBS, et cetera, et cetera.
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Speaker 14: Rito They've been saying this literally since Donald Trump's first
25:47
Speaker 14: ds in office. Heck, actually they've really been saying it
25:49
Speaker 14: since he was on the campaign trail for the first
25:51
Speaker 14: time back in twenty sixteen. They said that he was
25:54
Speaker 14: going to cause World War three, that he was going
25:57
Speaker 14: to cause a total breakdown on the chain of command.
26:00
Speaker 14: Will the military commanders, the generals, Will they have the courage,
26:04
Speaker 14: Will they have the constitutional fortitude the backbone to say
26:07
Speaker 14: no to they would be dictator, that would be stolen,
26:10
Speaker 14: that would be Hitdler. We've heard this just over and
26:14
Speaker 14: over and over again, and it doesn't happen. It doesn't happen.
26:17
Speaker 14: On the contrary, as you well know and your audience knows,
26:20
Speaker 14: that there have been a record number of peace deals
26:22
Speaker 14: actually that have been reached in this second trum administration.
26:25
Speaker 14: Peace deals between countries like Indian Pakistan, between countries like
26:28
Speaker 14: Rwanda and the Congo, Armenia and Azerbaijan, and on and
26:32
Speaker 14: on we go here. Sometimes the way to get peace
26:35
Speaker 14: is through a short term escalation of hostilities. Peace is
26:38
Speaker 14: the goal. Dald Trump is a pro peace present. He's
26:41
Speaker 14: a demonstrally pro peace track record. His ways might be
26:45
Speaker 14: a little heterodox or a little unusual. It's not necessarily
26:48
Speaker 14: what you would have studied in university or studied in
26:51
Speaker 14: your graduate seminar. But he's successful, probably rita because he
26:56
Speaker 14: does not follow the rules, because he does not play along,
26:59
Speaker 14: He does not try to get along there he is.
27:01
Speaker 14: He is not out of a Petrie dish. He is
27:03
Speaker 14: not the kind of guy that you could have concocted.
27:06
Speaker 14: And this is how you would do it if you're
27:07
Speaker 14: going to do the game theory and the this and
27:09
Speaker 14: the that, and you're in to listen to the strategists
27:11
Speaker 14: and the consultants. No, he's Donald Trump. The man lives
27:15
Speaker 14: by his viscera, by its instincts there and the results frankly,
27:18
Speaker 14: just speak for themselves.
27:19
Speaker 8: So listen.
27:21
Speaker 14: If the leftist of the media had any kind of
27:23
Speaker 14: intellectual humility, they probably would be giving him credit for
27:25
Speaker 14: at least some of the things that I've just been
27:27
Speaker 14: talking about here with the best men or so they're
27:29
Speaker 14: not going to do so, Frankly, an ultimately reader that
27:31
Speaker 14: says much more about them than it says about President Trump.
27:35
Speaker 2: Now we've had another ceasefire with Iran. This one lasted
27:38
Speaker 2: I think less than a day. How difficult difficult is
27:42
Speaker 2: it going to be to have any sort of lasting
27:45
Speaker 2: piece still when the Iranian regime is fractured and involved
27:50
Speaker 2: in these internal power struggles. I mean, we're effectively having
27:54
Speaker 2: one faction of the Iranian regime agreeing to a cease
27:58
Speaker 2: fire and then another faction determined to fight till the
28:01
Speaker 2: bitter end.
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Speaker 14: So the Iranian regime is an interesting term in and
28:07
Speaker 14: of itself right now because, as you correctly know, the
28:10
Speaker 14: regime is essentially shattered into a million pieces there, and
28:14
Speaker 14: you know, unlike Humpty Dumpty, we're not entirely sure whether
28:16
Speaker 14: this actually will fully come back together again. There's really
28:19
Speaker 14: no discernible chain of command. Was actually is why two
28:23
Speaker 14: tuesdays ago, on the prespie of this two week ceasefire deal,
28:27
Speaker 14: you saw some scattered shots that were being fired stilled
28:30
Speaker 14: at the very last moment to places like the uae
28:32
Speaker 14: Oman all.
28:32
Speaker 8: Across the Gulf, because there's literally.
28:34
Speaker 14: No shaining commands. There's actually no commander who's actually calling
28:37
Speaker 14: the shots there. So it's unclear who is actually really
28:43
Speaker 14: deciding what the actual as longer public can do at
28:46
Speaker 14: this moment. But the broader problem, Rea, as you know
28:50
Speaker 14: better than anyone, is that this regime is fundamentally comprised
28:53
Speaker 14: of some of the most deceitful lying people on the
28:55
Speaker 14: face of the earth, and they have been lying through
28:57
Speaker 14: their teeth for forty seven years about virtual everything about
29:00
Speaker 14: their nuclear program, about their hedgemonic emissions, their regional ambitions,
29:04
Speaker 14: by the fact that they actually genuinely, really do want
29:07
Speaker 14: to see the literal obliteration of the little Saint of
29:10
Speaker 14: Israel and the big Saint of America. You know, there
29:12
Speaker 14: are so many folks here in the American media, on
29:15
Speaker 14: the American left Rada who say, oh, Donald Trump is
29:18
Speaker 14: fighting Israel's war, What interest does America have when it
29:21
Speaker 14: comes to around Oh really, oh really, literally, Their first
29:25
Speaker 14: act in nineteen seventy nine was who stormed the United
29:27
Speaker 14: States embassy? That was the very first thing they did
29:30
Speaker 14: on the ground forty seven years ago. America has very
29:33
Speaker 14: very good reason to take this country seriously.
29:36
Speaker 8: Donald J.
29:36
Speaker 14: Trump, as an individual has very good reason to take
29:39
Speaker 14: this country seriously. There's a Pakistani national currently sitting in
29:43
Speaker 14: jail in the Federal Justice system in New York City
29:47
Speaker 14: for acting on behalf of the IRGC trying to assassinate
29:51
Speaker 14: Donald J.
29:51
Speaker 8: Trump.
29:52
Speaker 14: Is a regime that fundamentally employs the well known Shria
29:55
Speaker 14: law tactic of Takia, which essentially gives you carte blanche
29:58
Speaker 14: to try to dissimulate, try to deceive, to try to
30:01
Speaker 14: conceal your true motives in pursuit of something greater, which
30:05
Speaker 14: in this case means civilizational jihad.
30:07
Speaker 8: So this has been the.
30:08
Speaker 14: Problem for literally almost half a century now, is that
30:11
Speaker 14: you simply cannot trust these people. And we all want
30:14
Speaker 14: deal again. Donald Trump wants a peace, He wants deals
30:16
Speaker 14: more than anyone there. But no, these people simply cannot
30:19
Speaker 14: be trusted. And fortunately, I think I think it's a
30:23
Speaker 14: real possibility that there could be some renewed hostility to
30:26
Speaker 14: try to get them even back to the table. Yet again,
30:29
Speaker 14: we'll see what happens. I mean, it's too early to say.
30:31
Speaker 14: They're apparently meeting in Pakistan over the next twenty four
30:33
Speaker 14: to thirty six hours. We will see how that meeting
30:35
Speaker 14: goes there. But fundamentally, read there's a regime and these
30:38
Speaker 14: are individuals that simply cannot be trusted, period, full stop,
30:42
Speaker 14: end of story.
30:44
Speaker 2: Cannot be trusted, and their hostility extends well beyond Israel,
30:49
Speaker 2: as you've identified, and I remember at primary school in
30:53
Speaker 2: Tehran being forced to chant death to America at the
30:58
Speaker 2: school assembly. That was something that just happened every single week.
31:02
Speaker 2: It is something that has been drummed into the population,
31:06
Speaker 2: and yet the bulk of the population wants an end
31:09
Speaker 2: to that regime. There sick in death of the Islamist rule.
31:14
Speaker 2: Now I want to ask you about Cuba. President Trump
31:17
Speaker 2: was asked about potential military action in Cuba, and he
31:21
Speaker 2: gave a rather intriguing answer.
31:25
Speaker 7: Reports that depending on its preparing for military action and
31:29
Speaker 7: qu Flanders reports true as Cuban.
31:31
Speaker 15: Next, well, it depends on what your definition of military
31:36
Speaker 15: action is.
31:38
Speaker 2: When Blake and is Slaylor.
31:42
Speaker 15: It really jes depends on what your definition of military
31:46
Speaker 15: action is. As Bill Clinton would say, you understand that,
31:49
Speaker 15: Note that a lot of people don't under.
31:51
Speaker 2: Said that Josh is Cuban.
31:53
Speaker 14: Next, I think the answer is yes, but no one
31:57
Speaker 14: really knows exactly what that means. But yes, the miministration
32:00
Speaker 14: is very much focused on Cubo. It has now been
32:03
Speaker 14: doubly triply quadrupley confirmed that Marco Rubio and his underlings
32:07
Speaker 14: in Foggy Bottom have been communicating with Roblt Castro, the
32:11
Speaker 14: ninety four year old brother of Fidel Castro. Rold Castro
32:15
Speaker 14: actually has some of his sons and grandsons even who
32:18
Speaker 14: are who are trying to communicate with the United States there.
32:22
Speaker 14: As far as what a deal looks like, it's virtually
32:25
Speaker 14: impossible to say. And you know, similar to the situation
32:29
Speaker 14: in Iran. Reado, my guest, what the president would most
32:33
Speaker 14: want would be something along the line to what happened
32:36
Speaker 14: in Venezuela. We call this the Venezuela option or the
32:39
Speaker 14: Venezuela Plan. We don't necessarily see full scale regime change,
32:43
Speaker 14: after all, Delci Rodriguez, who's currently calling the shots there
32:46
Speaker 14: in Cracas, Venezuela, is very much what the exact same
32:48
Speaker 14: Marxist Leninist Hugh as her two predecessors, Hugo Chavez Nicholas Maduro. However,
32:54
Speaker 14: to paraphrase Vito Corleoni and the Godfather, Delci Rodriguez knows
32:58
Speaker 14: that the United States has made her an offer that
33:00
Speaker 14: she can't refuse dot dot dot, and she understands what
33:04
Speaker 14: happens if she does not give the United States what
33:06
Speaker 14: she wants. I think that is, frankly, what the United
33:08
Speaker 14: States really desires when it comes to Iran. Iran is
33:12
Speaker 14: a totally different ballgame, of course, because you're dealing here
33:14
Speaker 14: with apocalyptic Islamist who actually believe in seventy versions heaven there.
33:18
Speaker 14: So that's a very different calculation. But Cuba in theory,
33:21
Speaker 14: is a close a closer match to Thnezuela. So in theory,
33:24
Speaker 14: if you can kind of make some sort of similar
33:27
Speaker 14: arrangement in Cuba there similar to dills whu arigaz in Venezuela,
33:30
Speaker 14: you essentially have them do your bidding in exchange for
33:33
Speaker 14: sanctions relief. Maybe if this all happens, God willing, maybe
33:36
Speaker 14: the embargo actually ends after sixty seven years whatever exactly
33:40
Speaker 14: it's been there with with this embargo. You know, in
33:43
Speaker 14: Cuba is literally the closest country to the United States
33:47
Speaker 14: that we do not share a border with, with the
33:50
Speaker 14: exception of Russia, which I guess is technically just a
33:52
Speaker 14: few miles away from Alaska across the Bearing Strip, Bak,
33:54
Speaker 14: it's very close. I live here in South Florida.
33:56
Speaker 8: It's a.
33:56
Speaker 14: It's a fixture of our Florida politics. There no one
33:59
Speaker 14: wants piece of Cuba more than Mark or Rubio, who
34:02
Speaker 14: is kind of the man of yaour here in the
34:03
Speaker 14: Trump administration. There, he's working very hard out there. I
34:06
Speaker 14: think that the administration is going to make a full
34:08
Speaker 14: scale attempt to try to get some sort of deal
34:11
Speaker 14: with Cuba. I don't know what that looks like, but
34:13
Speaker 14: I don't think it's going to be a full scale
34:16
Speaker 14: military invasion.
34:17
Speaker 8: But here's what I also will say.
34:18
Speaker 14: I will say that by the time of Donald Trump
34:20
Speaker 14: is term limited out of office come January twenty twenty
34:23
Speaker 14: eight or twenty twenty ninehould say, I do make a
34:25
Speaker 14: prediction the nineties and Cuba will have a fundamentally different
34:28
Speaker 14: relationship than they do have today, that is for sure.
34:33
Speaker 2: Now we've had an update on the condition of a
34:36
Speaker 2: friend of this program, the great Jordan Peterson. Sadly, he's
34:40
Speaker 2: had a hellish year, Josha, He's suffering from severe neurological
34:44
Speaker 2: injuries from psych medication. Let's hear hear from his daughter Mikhayla,
34:50
Speaker 2: who has posted an update on Jordan's condition on YouTube.
34:55
Speaker 16: In my opinion, psych mad injuries and psych med's as
34:58
Speaker 16: a whole should be considered an our emergency. Given one
35:01
Speaker 16: in six Americans or possibly more depending on the stat
35:04
Speaker 16: is on one of these medications. Akathesia is a side
35:07
Speaker 16: effect that's way more common than people know, usually caused
35:10
Speaker 16: by psychiatric medications, although other medications can sometimes cause it,
35:14
Speaker 16: and so can sudden cessation from those medications. That's a
35:18
Speaker 16: huge trigger.
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Speaker 2: It really is such an important and under reported issue, Josh,
35:23
Speaker 2: and the world needs Jordan Paterson healthy. He is genuinely
35:28
Speaker 2: one of the finest thinkers of his generation, and I
35:31
Speaker 2: would say one of the most misrepresented people on the planet.
35:36
Speaker 14: Yeah, so the latter point to me is probably the
35:40
Speaker 14: most important. I mean, first of all, let's take the obvious.
35:41
Speaker 17: Here.
35:42
Speaker 14: We are all hoping and praying that Jordan Peterson is
35:46
Speaker 14: back to normal asap. And I look, I can't say
35:50
Speaker 14: I know Jordan personally, but I have a lot of
35:53
Speaker 14: friends who know him personally. There, and I've heard all
35:55
Speaker 14: sorts of mixed things over the past year or two
35:57
Speaker 14: frankly going back around now, but this deal from Achable's
36:00
Speaker 14: first time that we've ever seen this really squarely addressed,
36:03
Speaker 14: I think head on by a member of the Peterson family,
36:06
Speaker 14: and we all were certainly all praying for him to
36:08
Speaker 14: be to be back on his feet and back added asap.
36:11
Speaker 14: But I think your latter point again is really the
36:13
Speaker 14: most important one, which is many many folks are kind
36:16
Speaker 14: of going crazy right now, and frankly, there are a
36:19
Speaker 14: lot of folks, even on the broader rights, who have
36:21
Speaker 14: kind of lost their marbles. And Jordan Peterson is a
36:24
Speaker 14: man who was not lost as marbles. He is a
36:26
Speaker 14: man who who speaks with clarity, conviction and in very simple,
36:31
Speaker 14: understandable tones messages. That's why he had such a massive following,
36:34
Speaker 14: especially among millennials, gen Z, younger Americans, the exact same
36:38
Speaker 14: types of Americans, frankly, who were increased with being let
36:41
Speaker 14: us try by false prophets and terrible influencers.
36:44
Speaker 1: There.
36:44
Speaker 14: You know, Jordan Peterson had a very compelling message there,
36:47
Speaker 14: which among other things, was to live with order and
36:50
Speaker 14: structure and purpose, to make your bed in the morning,
36:52
Speaker 14: and to get out there, and to take your life
36:54
Speaker 14: and to seize it, and to make the most of
36:58
Speaker 14: your own sovereignty and of your own destiny and everyone
37:01
Speaker 14: control and many in many ways actually read and my
37:03
Speaker 14: lay friend Charlie Kirk hat a very similar message. Actually,
37:06
Speaker 14: Charlie said the same thing to a lot of disaffected
37:08
Speaker 14: the youngsters. He said, take your life under your own control.
37:12
Speaker 14: Do you see that girl, you like her?
37:13
Speaker 8: Ask her out?
37:14
Speaker 14: You want to get a wife, you want to have children?
37:16
Speaker 14: There do it? Work at it. You don't like the
37:18
Speaker 14: way you look, go to the gym, eat healthier. You
37:21
Speaker 14: know we have agency. And this is a very similar
37:23
Speaker 14: message of Jordan Peters and Charlie Kirk. It's a very
37:25
Speaker 14: inspiring message. It's it's a very uplifting message. It's in
37:28
Speaker 14: contrast to a lot of the doomsdaying and just grotesque
37:32
Speaker 14: negativity and blackmailing that we hear on a daily basis.
37:36
Speaker 8: There.
37:36
Speaker 14: So we really, really really do need Jordan Peterson frankly
37:40
Speaker 14: more than ever. It sounds kind of cliche, but it
37:41
Speaker 14: happens to be true. I believe there and God willing,
37:44
Speaker 14: he'll be back with us in ernest sooner than later.
37:48
Speaker 2: Now to a sickening story from Louisiana where an army vet,
37:52
Speaker 2: Shama Elkins, went on a murderous rampage before he was
37:57
Speaker 2: shot dead by officers.
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Speaker 1: Right now, we have at least ten individuals that were.
38:03
Speaker 15: Struck by unviralized night in a domestic disturbance.
38:08
Speaker 1: Eight of these individuals are deceased.
38:12
Speaker 2: The ranges of the decedents are from four years of
38:14
Speaker 2: age closteen years. Agree, Josh, you heard the gasps there
38:20
Speaker 2: when the death toll and the ages of the victims
38:23
Speaker 2: was announced by the police officer there. Seven of the
38:26
Speaker 2: children murdered were the killer's own children.
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Speaker 14: Yeah, it's one of those stories, as a father of
38:34
Speaker 14: a young girl read, it's one of those stories that
38:36
Speaker 14: it's kind of hard even talk about it, to be
38:38
Speaker 14: honest with you, this is just unspeakable stuff.
38:41
Speaker 1: It is.
38:42
Speaker 14: It is absolutely unfathomably horrific and God willing. It's one
38:49
Speaker 14: of those things where it's hard hard to even not
38:50
Speaker 14: to say, frankly, the gunman has been neutralized.
38:53
Speaker 8: So you came and hope for justice here. I suppose
38:56
Speaker 8: I will say this.
38:57
Speaker 14: The left will do what the left always does in
38:58
Speaker 14: the horror of situation like this there, and they will
39:00
Speaker 14: make a play to try to seize guns and try
39:02
Speaker 14: to increase new restrictions on your secondmand rights, key mirror arms.
39:06
Speaker 8: There.
39:06
Speaker 14: Look, Rita, I actually was actually just at the gun
39:09
Speaker 14: range here in Florida earlier today with some friends training
39:12
Speaker 14: with pistols and rifles there. There are increasing amounts of
39:17
Speaker 14: threats out there, as you and I've discussed. I've had
39:20
Speaker 14: some threats placed on me as well from people like
39:21
Speaker 14: Candice Sowns just over the past the year or so.
39:23
Speaker 8: There.
39:23
Speaker 14: This is not the time to try to strip law
39:26
Speaker 14: abiding people of the right to self defense there. But
39:28
Speaker 14: these stories are just invariably just truly, truly, truly heartbreaking stuff.
39:33
Speaker 14: And if nothing else, Rita, it's another reminder that there
39:36
Speaker 14: is absolutely a profound, deep, and destructive mental health crisis
39:40
Speaker 14: in the United States, a crisis that it has been
39:42
Speaker 14: festering for a very very, very very long time, and unfortunately,
39:47
Speaker 14: in a situation where where now the political party seems
39:49
Speaker 14: to have a whole lot of answers when it comes
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Speaker 14: to that, they rather focus on these red herring issues
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Speaker 14: such as the Second Amendment itself.
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Speaker 2: Josh Trauma, thanks for your time, Thank you, Rid appreciate
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Speaker 2: still to come all the latest in role and entertainment news,
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Speaker 2: including is Meghan Michael really the most trolled person in
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Speaker 2: the world? Kinsey Schofield is next. Welcome back. Let's hear
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Speaker 2: from the most bullied person in the world, according to herself,
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Speaker 2: of course, pampered princess turned foult Reality TV star Meghan
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Speaker 2: Michael was in Australia for a commercial to her here,
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Speaker 2: she claims she's been the most trolled person for the
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Speaker 2: past decade. The delusion is strong with this one.
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Speaker 17: Every day for ten years, I've been bullied at pat
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Speaker 17: and I was the most true person in the entire world.
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Speaker 17: I'm still here and so when I think of all
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Speaker 17: of you and what you're experiencing, I think so much
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Speaker 17: of that is having to realize that, you know that industry.
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Speaker 16: William Bawler, industry.
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Speaker 17: That is completely anchored and predicated on cruelty.
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Speaker 2: Joining me now is host of the Kinsey Schofield Unfiltered podcast. Schofield,
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Speaker 2: what's your reaction to that claim by Meghan that she's
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Speaker 2: the most trolled person man or woman in the world
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Speaker 2: for a decade.
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Speaker 7: I mean, analytically, that is simply not true. And twenty
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Speaker 7: twenty four research proves that Princess of Wales was the
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Speaker 7: most harassed person online, the most trolled during a sensitive
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Speaker 7: secret cancer battle. You know my sympathy lies there. In
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Speaker 7: twenty nineteen, a research says it was Adele. If Megan
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Speaker 7: wants to be taken seriously as an expert in this arena,
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Speaker 7: she needs to remove herself from the equation and bring
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Speaker 7: her audience, statistics and meaningful solutions to the problem, not
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Speaker 7: another sob story.
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Speaker 2: You know what, I don't even believe those stats. You
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Speaker 2: look at the criticism Princess Cage or Adele gets, and
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Speaker 2: you can compare that to pretty much anybody in the
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Speaker 2: Trump administration. Give me a break, since twenty sixteen, there
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Speaker 2: would be not a human in the world who would
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Speaker 2: have got the bad press that Donald Trump gets. Now,
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Speaker 2: you can say he's a politician, he's signed up for that,
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Speaker 2: but then every public figure in a way signs up
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Speaker 2: for that. And that's something Megan Kelly.
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Speaker 7: But he also said he didn't have cancer, Katherine, he
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Speaker 7: did me that was horrible.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, she did, she did. But I'm just wondering, like
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Speaker 2: about the data points in this research. But let's have
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Speaker 2: a listen to what Megan Kelly said about Meghan Markle's
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Speaker 2: comments about trolling.
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Speaker 18: Every public figure has been subjected to negative scrutiny, often
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Speaker 18: very intense and unpleasant. You had the benefit of universally
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Speaker 18: loving and adoring praise for press for a year when
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Speaker 18: you started dating him by racial American princess, Oh my god,
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Speaker 18: the US press went nuts. The Brits, who are woker
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Speaker 18: than we are, were self flagellating themselves in every paper
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Speaker 18: for not having had anybody in color of color in
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Speaker 18: the family. They were bending over backward to welcome you
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Speaker 18: into the royal family, Kinseye.
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Speaker 2: She then blew it all. All that goodwill gone, and
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Speaker 2: Megan Kelly says she blew it all by being and
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Speaker 2: I quote, a bitch and a bully.
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Speaker 7: Where there smoked their spire and Vanity Fair reported former
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Speaker 7: employees of Megan sought therapy after they worked for her.
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Speaker 7: She was such a bully. The Hollywood reporter called her
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Speaker 7: a dictator in high heels. MK might just be onto
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Speaker 7: something here. I don't disagree with her.
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Speaker 2: Kamala Harris, a super fan and Rapacatti b has had
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Speaker 2: an almighty meltdown and live stream the whole thing, screaming
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Speaker 2: about why she won't be performing at her last sold
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Speaker 2: out show in Atlanta by.
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Speaker 5: Right here, because you're your employs, I've been disrespectful.
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Speaker 8: Why I'm not gonna.
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Speaker 2: Perform today because don't get your baths like you said,
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Speaker 2: go get them. I'm not performing today. Let me tell
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Speaker 2: you why, because we got it here.
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Speaker 18: Your employs I.
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Speaker 7: Be rude for no reason, being rude for not reason, points.
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Speaker 2: And begs for not reason, touching people for not reason,
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Speaker 2: and they'dn't telling me, oh, we got something to this
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Speaker 2: because that blows aren't type of way, because you're being disrespectful.
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Speaker 2: I understood about thirty percent of that, Kinsley, What was
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Speaker 2: that all about?
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Speaker 7: Well, first of all, I think we should clarify that
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Speaker 7: Cardi being meltdown is a typical Tuesday for the two
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Speaker 7: of us. This is not so. This is something we
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Speaker 7: cover pretty regularly here between the two of us. But
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Speaker 7: Cardi almost called off her show in Atlanta over the
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Speaker 7: weekend over the alleged disrespect her team by the staff
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Speaker 7: at the concert venue. However, after that glorious his effect
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Speaker 7: went viral, the show did go ahead as scheduled. So
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Speaker 7: all is right with the world. Everybody got their Cardi
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Speaker 7: b fixed. Hopefully she's found some magnesium and she's had
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Speaker 7: a nice nap, and you know, she'll chill out for
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Speaker 7: she'll chill out for a little while.
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Speaker 2: I'm not sure magnesium is gonna solve her is shoes.
45:26
Speaker 2: She seems to have a few shoes there. Now another
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Speaker 2: clip of Katy Perry has resurfaced where she appears to
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Speaker 2: kiss a four to eight year old boy who she
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Speaker 2: had pulled onto the stage at one of her concerts.
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Speaker 2: Seen in school. That's good, You're gonna be real willing.
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Speaker 8: This is gonna be awkward for your father.
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Speaker 17: A kiss.
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Speaker 2: That went on for a while, because then she encouraged
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Speaker 2: him to participate a little bit more in the kissing Kinsey.
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Speaker 2: This all has come to light because we've got Victoria
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Speaker 2: police here investigating Katie Perry after Australian actress Ruby Roy's
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Speaker 2: claim that Perry assaulted her back in twenty ten. How
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Speaker 2: do you see this affecting Katie Perry's reputation and image
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Speaker 2: around the world.
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Speaker 7: It already is, I mean, talk about a pr nightmare.
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Speaker 7: Insiders say this risks, you know, Katie risks being permanently
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Speaker 7: linked to these allegations because of this avalanche that we're
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Speaker 7: seeing of additional videos of her inappropriate behavior. At the
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Speaker 7: very moment, she's been moving in the highest profile circles
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Speaker 7: from sunning herself aboard Barry Diller's one hundred million dollar
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Speaker 7: yacht to performing at King Charles's coronation. You know, she
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Speaker 7: now finds herself pulled into an increasingly uncomfortable spotlight. On
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Speaker 7: top of this, she's she's got Justin Trudeau. Sources have
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Speaker 7: said they've made no secret of their interest in each other.
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Speaker 7: But this marks a real test in their relationship because
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Speaker 7: I don't know if you remember Trudeau trying to be
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Speaker 7: the poster child for pro women feminist public image, so
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Speaker 7: any association with allegations of this nature could put a
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Speaker 7: noticeable dent in the optics of their relationship. That's really
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Speaker 7: awkward for him.
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Speaker 2: Now, Kristin ca Cabo, you might be wondering who the
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Speaker 2: hell is that. Well, she's the woman at the center
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Speaker 2: of last year's Coldplay cheating controversy. Will remember that image. Well.
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Speaker 2: She has said that the band's lead singer, Chris Martin
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Speaker 2: never reached out to her after she went viral for
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Speaker 2: cheating with her boss. Have a look, no, would you
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Speaker 2: appreciate it?
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Speaker 8: It'd be great.
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Speaker 2: Would you still go to a concert?
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Speaker 7: Tom?
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Speaker 17: Noah?
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Speaker 1: All right, you did a great.
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Speaker 2: Kinsey. The sense of titlement there is extraordinary. I mean,
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Speaker 2: why would Chris Martin reach out to her? She's extraordinary.
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Speaker 2: She had that sit down with Oprah Winfrey, just wild
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Speaker 2: victim blaming and big noting herself. And now this.
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Speaker 7: It's giving Megan Markle. I mean, Kristin, get a clue.
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Speaker 7: Chris Martin, I mean he's not dodging anything. He's actually
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Speaker 7: currently making history. He's leading Coldplay's vision for the World
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Speaker 7: Cup's first ever halftime show on the biggest stage in sports.
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Speaker 7: I think he's got bigger fish to fry. But yeah,
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Speaker 7: her pasture there, the look on her face, the arrogance.
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Speaker 7: I would I beg the Papaassi not to give this
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Speaker 7: woman any more attention. Please don't turn her into another Markle.
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Speaker 7: We've already closed the chapter on her as far as
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Speaker 7: we're concerned. No more kiss him for the love of God.
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Speaker 2: Exactly, And surely the last thing you would want would
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Speaker 2: be Chris Martin to reach out to. You want this
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Speaker 2: media storm to die, because if anybody got wind of that,
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Speaker 2: it would be a whole bunch of new headlines and
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Speaker 2: more coverage and more scrutiny of what happens. So I
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Speaker 2: don't know. I think this lady has kind of enjoyed
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Speaker 2: the spotlight, as negative as it has been. She keeps
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Speaker 2: putting herself out there.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, you don't sit down with Oprah Winfrey
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Speaker 7: if you're trying to move forward and close the chapter.
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Speaker 7: You sit down with Oprah Winfrey if you're gunning for
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Speaker 7: a book deal or you're looking to get a reality show.
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Speaker 7: So I think it's fair to say it's not the
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Speaker 7: last we've seen of her. She loves that we just
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Speaker 7: said her name, Kristen Cobble whatever, and unfortunately we're probably
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Speaker 7: going to say it again.
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Speaker 2: Oh dear Kisi Gofield, thank you so much for your
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Speaker 2: time tonight. And that's it from me. Don't go anywhere.
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Speaker 2: Newsnight is up next