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The Late Debate | 1 December · The Late Debate

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  Speaker 1: Late General, Welcome to the Late Debase.
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  Speaker 2: It's great to have your company on the Late Debate.
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  Speaker 2: I'm James Macpherson with Caleb Bond and Freile each coming
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  Speaker 2: up tonight. We're told there's a climate crisis. So why
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  Speaker 2: a Department of Environment staff spending huge amounts of taxpayer
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  Speaker 2: money traveling business class?
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  Speaker 1: Plus parents?
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  Speaker 2: I rate that a school uniform policy and a school
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  Speaker 2: that doesn't have a uniform unfairly discriminates against their daughters.
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  Speaker 2: And you won't believe why the latest production of Jesus
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  Speaker 2: Christ Superstar comes with trigger warnings. All of that shortly,
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  Speaker 2: but first, a funny thing happened at the Queensland State
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  Speaker 2: Labor Conference on the weekend. Luke Richmond officially took the
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  Speaker 2: reins as the Assistant State Secretary. Now, by all reports,
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  Speaker 2: he's the best man for the job. Ironically, that's also
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  Speaker 2: the problem.
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  Speaker 1: He's a man.
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  Speaker 2: You see, the State Secretary is also a man, and
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  Speaker 2: according to labour rule, one of the secretary or assistant
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  Speaker 2: secretary must be a woman. So what do you think
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  Speaker 2: the Labor members did?
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  Speaker 1: Well?
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  Speaker 2: They voted to create a brand new position assistant to
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  Speaker 2: the Assistant Secretary, which would be reserved.
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  Speaker 1: For a woman. So next time labor supporters boast about.
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  Speaker 2: How they're empowering women, well, it's hardly empowerment, Frayer, when
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  Speaker 2: you're literally making up positions so you can say that
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  Speaker 2: women have positions.
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  Speaker 3: This is the most ridiculous thing I have ever seen.
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  Speaker 3: They are literally creating an entirely new job just so
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  Speaker 3: they can have female representation staff female representation. It should
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  Speaker 3: be the best person for the job, regardless of their gender.
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  Speaker 4: And imagine how that.
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  Speaker 3: Woman is going to feel when she's brought in as
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  Speaker 3: assistant to the assistant.
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  Speaker 4: Secretary, elevated to.
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  Speaker 3: A senior position within the Queensland Labor Party because she
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  Speaker 3: happens to be a woman. And if she was that good,
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  Speaker 3: why wasn't she given the assistant secretary role.
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  Speaker 4: Clearly she's not actually the best person for the job.
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  Speaker 3: She is literally only there because of her luck to
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  Speaker 3: be born a woman at birth.
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  Speaker 4: This is the whole problem and the absurdity of gender quotas.
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  Speaker 5: I'm so glad that they have done this because by
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  Speaker 5: virtue of doing it, we can talk about it, and
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  Speaker 5: it just makes a mockery of the whole thing, right
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  Speaker 5: you know, I mean, obviously it would never have seen
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  Speaker 5: the light of day. Wouldn't have been an issue if
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  Speaker 5: they'd actually chosen a woman, as per the party rules,
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  Speaker 5: as either assistant or State secretary. But it would seem
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  Speaker 5: that two men were the best for the job. I mean,
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  Speaker 5: presumably these are the people that those who are able
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  Speaker 5: to vote for the State executive voted for. So I'm
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  Speaker 5: not sure what that says about the rampant sexism and
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  Speaker 5: misogyny in the Labor Party that, having looked at some
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  Speaker 5: female candidates, they decided that two men were the only
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  Speaker 5: people up to the job, and then you go, well,
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  Speaker 5: we'd better shoehorn a woman in there. Anyway, I've never
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  Speaker 5: seen anything that just quite so succinctly demonstrates just how
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  Speaker 5: ridiculous this is, and so for that, thank you to
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  Speaker 5: the Labor Party, because it is brilliant.
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  Speaker 2: I love the way this was reported in the Career Mail,
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  Speaker 2: where the journalist said that the Queensland Labor Party is
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  Speaker 2: not only ticking boxes, they're literally making boxes up so
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  Speaker 2: they can tick them.
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  Speaker 5: And look, you know what, it keeps someone in a job,
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  Speaker 5: doesn't it. Well, certainly plenty of people would like that. So,
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  Speaker 5: speaking of people who spend too much time ticking boxes.
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  Speaker 5: Presumably they're ticking the box that says I'll date the
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  Speaker 5: business class flight instead of the economy class flight. Are
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  Speaker 5: the people working over at the Federal Environment Department. Now,
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  Speaker 5: I would have thought if there was any government department
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  Speaker 5: where they would think twice about taking flights and certainly
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  Speaker 5: whether or not they took business instead of a it
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  Speaker 5: would be the Environment Department. I mean, these are the people,
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  Speaker 5: of course, who are charged with looking after the environment
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  Speaker 5: and looking at things like renewable energy projects and all
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  Speaker 5: this sort of stuff. They're meant to be the greenies
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  Speaker 5: of the government. This mob, Well, it turns out that
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  Speaker 5: in just three months between July and September, one point
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  Speaker 5: two million dollars was spent on business class flights alone.
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  Speaker 5: Now they're spending plenty of other money on travel. I mean,
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  Speaker 5: the total was two point four million on international travel.
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  Speaker 5: They've spent a total of four point four million on
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  Speaker 5: domestic travel. That is, again in three months between July
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  Speaker 5: and September, but one point two million dollars on business
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  Speaker 5: class flights. Now, we know that business class takes up
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  Speaker 5: more space than economy class, which means per head of
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  Speaker 5: population you get on that plane every business class passes
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  Speaker 5: is in effect contributing more emissions to the world, because
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  Speaker 5: if they choehorned more economy cattle class seats in there,
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  Speaker 5: you'd have more people on board, and you'd get more
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  Speaker 5: bang for your emission back. But it's not good enough
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  Speaker 5: for the people over at the Environment Department don't know
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  Speaker 5: stuff the environment. They must have their personal environment being
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  Speaker 5: nice and comfortable. And in fact, the department says, well,
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  Speaker 5: there's not a lot we can do about it, because
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  Speaker 5: it's the conditions under their enterprise agreements that say if
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  Speaker 5: they go overseas they have to fly business class. Well,
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  Speaker 5: I'm sorry. If you care about the environment, you should
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  Speaker 5: be doing something about your enterprise agreement, shouldn't you.
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  Speaker 1: That was the part of this story I liked the most.
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  Speaker 2: I want to work in the Department of Environments. I
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  Speaker 2: can help to save the environment, but I do demand
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  Speaker 2: that I fly business class, thereby helping to destroy the environment.
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  Speaker 2: If you believe the climate catastrophes. The average price of
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  Speaker 2: these business class tickets will work it out. Eighty one
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  Speaker 2: officials traveling on ninety one trips for one point two
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  Speaker 2: million dollars, It's about thirteen thousand, one hundred dollars per flight.
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  Speaker 2: So it's not just the hypocrisy when it comes to
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  Speaker 2: the environment, Freyer, But there's that little thing called the
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  Speaker 2: cost of living crisis as well, where most of us
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  Speaker 2: are trying to scrounge together a little bit of money
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  Speaker 2: to take flights. These guys sitting up the front end
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  Speaker 2: of the plane on a thirteen thousand dollars on average
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  Speaker 2: ticket stuff the cost of living crisis, stuff the environment.
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  Speaker 2: It reminds me of George Orwell's famous quote all animals
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  Speaker 2: are equal, but those in the Department of Environment are
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  Speaker 2: a little more equal than others.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and look, it's pretty easy to actually fund business
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  Speaker 3: class flights in a cost of living crisis.
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  Speaker 4: Just get taxpayers to pay for it. I'd be flying
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  Speaker 4: business class all the time if I were them.
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  Speaker 3: But the Rony here as well, with their enterprise bargaining agreement.
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  Speaker 4: Mandating that they fly business class.
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  Speaker 3: These are probably the same highly unionized employees that also
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  Speaker 3: demand and working.
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  Speaker 4: From home rights. And so if working from home is
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  Speaker 4: that great, is labor seems.
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  Speaker 3: To think it is, why not get these guys to
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  Speaker 3: work from home? And some of these trips that they're
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  Speaker 3: taking internationally are just ridiculous. They're off to Paris for
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  Speaker 3: the World Heritage Committee meeting, and then they went off
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  Speaker 3: to Japan for the Australia Japan Workshop.
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  Speaker 4: On Antarctic Science.
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  Speaker 3: All sounds very important to our national priorities. And then
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  Speaker 3: they went to the Clean Energy Ministerial Initiative in Switzerland.
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  Speaker 3: I want to see what is actually being produced from
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  Speaker 3: all of these trips. Can someone point to the tangible
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  Speaker 3: outcomes that they are producing? Because I understand you do
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  Speaker 3: need to travel. I don't want to say blanket ban.
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  Speaker 3: No one in the Australian government can ever go overseas,
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  Speaker 3: but we as taxpayers funding this need to know what
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  Speaker 3: we're actually getting from all of these trips. And one
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  Speaker 3: of the spokespeople the department said, oh, well, there's enormous
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  Speaker 3: international exposure in the Department of Energy, so you know
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  Speaker 3: they need to be all over the world. How about
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  Speaker 3: you fix our own energy system in Australia before you
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  Speaker 3: go overseas to lecture other countries about their energy grid.
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  Speaker 5: Well, I can tell you exactly tangibly what we got
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  Speaker 5: out of these trips. One is what came out the
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  Speaker 5: back of the plane caused by the jet fuel, and
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  Speaker 5: the other is the carbon dioxide that came out of
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  Speaker 5: the mouths of the bureaucrats we sent overseas. We got emissions.
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  Speaker 5: That's what we got.
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  Speaker 2: The other thing we should point out Caleb mentioned that
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  Speaker 2: in total they've spent about seven million dollars on trips
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  Speaker 2: in the last three months. That three month period is
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  Speaker 2: before COP thirty in Brazil, So if you were to
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  Speaker 2: add that and call it over a four month period,
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  Speaker 2: it would be an even larger sum of money spent
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  Speaker 2: on travel by people who tell us travelers destroying the world.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Well, the green hypocrisy doesn't stop there. Of course.
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  Speaker 3: These renewable energy zones are being rolled out across New
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  Speaker 3: South Wales, and even though they claim to be saving
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  Speaker 3: the planet by bringing on more renewable energy, the true
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  Speaker 3: cost to the environment and the ecosystem is now being
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  Speaker 3: laid there. In the Central West Rana renewable Energy Zone,
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  Speaker 3: they are putting up two hundred and forty kilometers of
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  Speaker 3: transmission lines covering around four thousand hectares, and in order
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  Speaker 3: to do this they have to clear native bushland and
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  Speaker 3: natural habitats of animals. Now what's happened is a lot
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  Speaker 3: of baby birds have been found and have been orphaned
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  Speaker 3: and have now ended up in a veterinary hospital in
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  Speaker 3: regional New South Wales where many of them have now died.
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  Speaker 4: Here are some of.
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  Speaker 3: The birds that were the victims of our renewable zelotry.
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  Speaker 3: Now I understand when you're building anything you have to
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  Speaker 3: clear land, but at least be honest about.
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  Speaker 4: The environmental impact of it.
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  Speaker 3: Don't just hold renewables up to be the savior of
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  Speaker 3: the world while ignoring the clear cost. It has an
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  Speaker 3: impact it has on native wildlife. Here was the Deputy
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  Speaker 3: mayor of Doubot speaking earlier.
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  Speaker 6: We have a look at it disgusting. I'm hoping that
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  Speaker 6: these people in Sydney that are never having this rubbish
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  Speaker 6: bestodon realize this is the destruction of the bush. To
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  Speaker 6: have this never ending pursuit of net zero and one
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  Speaker 6: hundred percent renewable energy.
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  Speaker 7: Well, this is the dark side of it.
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  Speaker 6: This is fact, this is what's happening.
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  Speaker 4: And he's not wrong.
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  Speaker 3: Four thousand hectares is going to be built on to
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  Speaker 3: produce this renewable energy zone.
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  Speaker 4: What about the birds? What about the wildlife?
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  Speaker 3: What about the destruction of one hundred year old ecosystems?
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  Speaker 4: No regard for that side of the environment.
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  Speaker 2: The New South Wales government put out a press release
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  Speaker 2: just a couple of months ago saying, and I quote,
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  Speaker 2: the Men's government is showing that renewable energy and nature
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  Speaker 2: conservation can go hand in hand. So you've got to
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  Speaker 2: work out whether you believe the press release or the
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  Speaker 2: images you saw on your screen.
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  Speaker 1: If you did that as a farmer, there would be
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  Speaker 1: hell to pay.
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  Speaker 2: If you did just a smidgeon of that because you
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  Speaker 2: wanted to see the ocean view in front of your
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  Speaker 2: house it was blocked out by a tree, you would
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  Speaker 2: be prosecuted by your local council. But if you're doing
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  Speaker 2: it in the name of solar panels and wind turbines,
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  Speaker 2: well that's just fine. My question though, is where's gored
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  Speaker 2: at Tunberg? Where the greens shouldn't they be there protesting
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  Speaker 2: these animals, these endangered life forms that have been all
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  Speaker 2: but wiped out and are now being nursed back to health,
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  Speaker 2: some of them the lucky ones at the local veterinary surgery.
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  Speaker 2: I thought there'd be a massive protest of all of
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  Speaker 2: these greenies who so loved nature and animals.
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  Speaker 5: Blood did suggest last week that she could come and
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  Speaker 5: put that green dye in Sydney Harbor and the Risbane
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  Speaker 5: River and the arrow and stuff. So maybe she would
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  Speaker 5: like to come and tagle. I mean, it kind of
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  Speaker 5: reminds me of many many, many, many many years ago.
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  Speaker 5: Sir Joe Bilki Peterson, before he was sir and before
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  Speaker 5: he was the Premier of Coeensland, advised this method by
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  Speaker 5: which you'd put a chain between two tractors and then
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  Speaker 5: you'd drive it through the middle of dense scrubland and
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  Speaker 5: you would just raise all the trees in one shot.
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  Speaker 5: And you can imagine back in the day, of course,
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  Speaker 5: the farmers loved that and the greenies hated it, whereas
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  Speaker 5: today the farmers are upset that the trees are being
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  Speaker 5: cut down and the greenies a loving that the trees
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  Speaker 5: are being cut down. Isn't it a topsy turvy world?
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  Speaker 5: And I think it exposes the truth behind all of this.
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  Speaker 5: You know, to paraphrase Johnny Mitchell, paved paradise and put
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  Speaker 5: up a wind farm. But the problem is that all
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  Speaker 5: of this is predicated on the fact that we as
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  Speaker 5: humans and that you listen to extinction rebellion, right, It's
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  Speaker 5: all about we as humans must exist on this planet. Forevermore.
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  Speaker 5: They're just obsessed with themselves existing on this planet, the
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  Speaker 5: human rate existing on this planet. And so what we
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  Speaker 5: are saying is, in the name of helping the environment,
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  Speaker 5: we will destroy parts of the environment and kill animals
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  Speaker 5: along the way so that we, as humans at the
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  Speaker 5: top of the animal tree, get to feel good about
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  Speaker 5: the way we are living while we are on this planet. Well,
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  Speaker 5: if that involves killing animals and you call yourself an environmentalist,
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  Speaker 5: and it involves cutting down trees, and you call yourself
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  Speaker 5: an environmentalist, trees, by the way, which suck carbon dioxide
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  Speaker 5: out of the atmosphere, great things for the world. If
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  Speaker 5: that's your idea of being green and doing the right
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  Speaker 5: thing by the planet, maybe you should go extinct. You
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  Speaker 5: know that they cannot have it both ways. You can't
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  Speaker 5: have your cake and eat it too.
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  Speaker 2: And that's the problem when any movement claims that they
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  Speaker 2: exist to save the planet. If you're saving the planet,
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  Speaker 2: you can pretty much justify anything, including hypocrisy. So you know,
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  Speaker 2: you can't fly, But we have to fly and business
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  Speaker 2: class because we're very important to the future of the planet.
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  Speaker 1: You're not so much.
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  Speaker 2: And we can destroy the countryside because it's in the
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  Speaker 2: name of saving the planet. But you can't destroy the
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  Speaker 2: country side because it's just to enjoy your view, et cetera,
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  Speaker 2: et cetera.
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  Speaker 1: And so we see this.
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  Speaker 2: Time and time again, people claiming special privilege because they
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  Speaker 2: are saving the planet and therefore get away with whatever
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  Speaker 2: they want.
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  Speaker 4: And also the costs are unevenly distributed.
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  Speaker 3: These green activists, chances are they've probably never been to
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  Speaker 3: the regions. They've certainly never bothered to speak to any farmers,
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  Speaker 3: they would not even care to. They probably have never
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  Speaker 3: seen what one of these renewable energy projects actually does
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  Speaker 3: to the natural habitat because that doesn't fit their narrative.
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  Speaker 3: So people also, these activists tend to have tunnel vision,
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  Speaker 3: where they will only look at fats, at data that
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  Speaker 3: suits their narrative. Anything else that challenges what they think
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  Speaker 3: is true, which is that we need infinite renewables to
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  Speaker 3: save the world, they just simply won't even acknowledge. And
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  Speaker 3: they're not the ones that have to live next to
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  Speaker 3: these transmission lines. They're not the ones that have to
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  Speaker 3: drive down that road and see the destruction of bushland.
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  Speaker 4: So it is just hypocrisy to the max.
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  Speaker 2: And the people most forgotten in all of this renewable transition.
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  Speaker 2: Typically are the farmers who don't forget provide our food.
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  Speaker 2: So the kind of important classic example of how our
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  Speaker 2: farming communities are being forgotten is found in the way
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  Speaker 2: the Bureau of Meteorology is behaving. You'll remember in the
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  Speaker 2: news last week it was revealed the bomb had spent
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  Speaker 2: ninety six million dollars on a facelift for their website. Ironically,
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  Speaker 2: the ninety six million dollar facelift made the website even
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  Speaker 2: more difficult to use than before they'd spent all of
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  Speaker 2: that money.
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  Speaker 1: But here's the real kicker.
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  Speaker 2: Having spent ninety six million dollars on a website, the
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  Speaker 2: Bureau of Meteorology now claims they don't have any money
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  Speaker 2: to supply radars for farmers in the Air Peninsula, South Australia. Now,
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  Speaker 2: to give you a perspective on how important this little
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  Speaker 2: section of agricultural land is, the Air Peninsula produced and
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  Speaker 2: this is in twenty twenty one, so a few years ago,
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  Speaker 2: but they were responsible for eight hundred and one million
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  Speaker 2: dollars worth of agricultural output, most of that exports. Forty
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  Speaker 2: percent of South Australia's wheat twenty four percent of South
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  Speaker 2: Australia's barley, twenty two percent of South Australia's oats, as
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  Speaker 2: well as.
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  Speaker 1: Lamb pork beef.
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  Speaker 2: It's a very rich, a very highly productive piece of
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  Speaker 2: agricultural real estate. But they can't get radar coverage. They're
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  Speaker 2: relying on the radar in Adelaide to warden them about
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  Speaker 2: store elms, hail, even just what the rainfall is going
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  Speaker 2: to be, which means they get practically no rainfall at all.
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  Speaker 2: We've got a map here that Caleb found earlier that
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  Speaker 2: shows you where radars are located around the country, the
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  Speaker 2: coverage they provide, and if you have a look down
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  Speaker 2: at the bottom of the screen there you'll see that
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  Speaker 2: little tip about the middle of the continent, which is
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  Speaker 2: where the Air Peninsula is, and you can see no
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  Speaker 2: radar coverage there at all. Now, Brad Perry from the
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  Speaker 2: Grain Producer's South Australia Industry Body, it's told the local
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  Speaker 2: newspapers growers on the Air Peninsula are being told to
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  Speaker 2: rely on data from Adelaide and Sojuna radars which are
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  Speaker 2: hundreds of kilometers away. That's not good enough for safety,
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  Speaker 2: it's not good enough for precision farming and it's certainly
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  Speaker 2: not good enough for a region that contributes billions of
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  Speaker 2: dollars to the state's economy. It's like our Bureau of
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  Speaker 2: Meteorology and our Department of Environment and the Government themselves
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  Speaker 2: become so obsessed with climate change they've forgotten their primary
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  Speaker 2: role and responsibility, which is to look after the ordinary
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  Speaker 2: needs of Australians, particularly our farmers, one of which would
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  Speaker 2: be give them fair warning when a storm is coming,
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  Speaker 2: or let them know rainfall patterns so they know when
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  Speaker 2: to plant, when to harvest.
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  Speaker 5: And I mean, if we can get that map back
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  Speaker 5: up where all the radars are, I mean, how would
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  Speaker 5: you like to be a farmer on the Air Peninsula, which,
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  Speaker 5: as you said, James, is one of the most fertile
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  Speaker 5: grounds for agriculture in South Australia, all up and down
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  Speaker 5: the East Coast, or almost the entirety of Victoria, most
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  Speaker 5: of New South Wales, most of Coins and you can
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  Speaker 5: get radar and if you just happen to be in
• 18:42
  Speaker 5: that little bit of South Australia there you are absolutely stuffed.
• 18:46
  Speaker 5: The rest of the state that's not covered has very
• 18:48
  Speaker 5: few people in it, but it's agricultural and of course
• 18:51
  Speaker 5: they need radar, and then they've been told where they
• 18:54
  Speaker 5: ask for it by the Bureau of Meteorology that they
• 18:57
  Speaker 5: don't have any money because they just spent that ninety
• 19:01
  Speaker 5: six and a half million dollars website, I assume, but
• 19:03
  Speaker 5: I tried to find out they want to Doppler radar,
• 19:06
  Speaker 5: which is, you know, the top of the tree stuff,
• 19:08
  Speaker 5: and they, from what I can work out, cost about
• 19:12
  Speaker 5: eight million dollars each to buy and install. That's based
• 19:16
  Speaker 5: on numbers. They put three new ones in in New
• 19:18
  Speaker 5: South Wales five years ago and that was about twenty
• 19:21
  Speaker 5: four and a half million dollars for those three, So
• 19:24
  Speaker 5: so roughly eight million dollars each. So you divide ninety
• 19:27
  Speaker 5: six and a half by eight, I mean we could
• 19:29
  Speaker 5: have put in nearly a dozen of these bloody things
• 19:32
  Speaker 5: and covered much more of the country, and instead we
• 19:35
  Speaker 5: got some lousy website. Well done, Bureau of Meteorology. What
• 19:40
  Speaker 5: is your actual job if it's not to provide weather
• 19:43
  Speaker 5: coverage to people who need it?
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: Well, the bomb can't tell you the weather, but they
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: can tell you the indigenous names of the places where
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: they can't provide the weather details.
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't have an issue if the website was actually good,
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: but it's so bad. Initially I thought, oh, well, the
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: previous website was really bad. It clearly hadn't been updated
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: in like twenty years. But the more I go on
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: to use the bomb website, the more annoying it gets.
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: You can't find anything, it's impossible to navigate. We just
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: need to move back to the original website. And also
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: this is just a triumph of optics over actually looking
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: after people. But something else that is challenging the optics
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: of a key institution.
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: Is Mossman High School. It is under fire.
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: It is a school that hasn't had a uniform since
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: the nineteen eighties, but now the school has released new
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: guidelines on the dress code. They have banned bike shorts
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: and leggings and also shirts that don't cover the neckline.
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: Girls and their families and now complaining that the rules
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: are being unevenly applied. And some are saying it's because well,
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: girls wear more of these kinds of clothes, which is fair.
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: And also their body types often display more than prep
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: bestn't boys in high school, which I totally understand.
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: But for me, I don't know about you, guys.
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: I do understand this when you have a uniform guideline
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: that is unfairly applied, and girls are cracked down on
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: harder than boys, even though they can show up wearing
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: the same thing active where the girls will get in trouble,
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: the boys won't.
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: Having said that, I think this is a great.
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: Argument for why we should just have uniforms across the board.
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: If you just had uniforms, you wouldn't have to run
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: into these issues because everyone could wear the same thing.
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I thought it was kind of obvious
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: that boys bodies and girls' bodies are different.
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: Therefore clothing is different.
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: Therefore clothing standards as applied by a school which want
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: a decorum of modesty. I think this is what it's about,
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: the principle of Mossmann heigh. So they were trying to
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: balance comfort with and I quote learning as a focus,
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: which means perhaps some of what the girls were wearing
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: was distracting from learning as a focus.
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: Hence the rules have been brought in.
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't complain, indeed, for parents to have made a
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: big deal of this. I mean, at what point do
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: your kids learn you don't always get what you want
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: and there will be people in your world who have
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: the right to tell you no, and instead of complaining
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: or rushing off to sue somebody or protesting or boycotting,
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: just suck it up and do what you're told.
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: I think these parents in.
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: Trying to stand up for their kids and doing their
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: kids a great disservice. You're not being discriminated against. That's
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: your school, that's the rules. If you don't like it,
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: you can homeschool. But mom and dad don't want to
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: homeschool them. They send them to school, so obey the rules.
• 22:40
  Speaker 5: May I first se thank god men's and women's bodies
• 22:43
  Speaker 5: are different, because the male physic doesn't do a great
• 22:45
  Speaker 5: deal for me. But the problem is that Mossman High
• 22:49
  Speaker 5: has since the nineteen eighties been a uniform free school,
• 22:54
  Speaker 5: and then they decide eventually, for whatever reason, that they're
• 22:58
  Speaker 5: going to start enforcing STEFF. So parents for whatever, and
• 23:02
  Speaker 5: you know, I mean, you send your kid to a
• 23:04
  Speaker 5: uniform free school, that's your business. But they've sent their
• 23:06
  Speaker 5: kids to a uniform free school, and then the school
• 23:09
  Speaker 5: has turned around and said, well, actually we've got some
• 23:12
  Speaker 5: rules now. So I can half understand why people are
• 23:15
  Speaker 5: blowing up about it because they have changed the rules.
• 23:18
  Speaker 5: It goes back to the original point I think Freyer
• 23:21
  Speaker 5: was making that. You know, you can say, oh, well,
• 23:23
  Speaker 5: the parents are not doing the kids any favors, and
• 23:25
  Speaker 5: they need to be taught that you've got to learn
• 23:27
  Speaker 5: responsibility and that people can boss you around every now
• 23:30
  Speaker 5: and again. But when the school has set the standard
• 23:32
  Speaker 5: that you don't get bossed around because there is no
• 23:34
  Speaker 5: uniform and you can wear what you want to school,
• 23:37
  Speaker 5: it's a little hard to then turn around and say, well,
• 23:40
  Speaker 5: actually I am now the boss, because you've sent the
• 23:42
  Speaker 5: standard that you are not the boss. There should just
• 23:45
  Speaker 5: be a uniform that everyone is forced to wear. It
• 23:49
  Speaker 5: works well in ninety nine percent of schools across the country.
• 23:53
  Speaker 5: It's not a problem. Why would you have a uniform
• 23:55
  Speaker 5: free school in the first place.
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: I agree with what you say, but obviously if you
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: say to kids you can wear whatever you want blind
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: Freddy Nodes, at some point you have to say except that,
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: and maybe not that, and maybe adjust that. Because you
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: can't just have kids wearing whatever they want. You're going
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: to end up having to apply some rules. I can't
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: believe parents think this is unreasonable.
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: I mean, I think the school is doing these girls
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: a favor to be perfectly honest. Some of the stuff
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: I wore when I was in high school. I am
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: very glad my school had a uniform and the amount
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: of people that had to see me wearing that stuff
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: was contained to a small group of friends.
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: Because the things you wear as a.
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: Teenage girl you often look back on and deeply regret.
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: So I think it's great. I'm pro uniform all the way.
• 24:38
  Speaker 5: I'll just give you a small tip on active wear
• 24:40
  Speaker 5: male or female. Please don't wear it on planes. I
• 24:44
  Speaker 5: know we talked about this last week, but you know,
• 24:46
  Speaker 5: just wear some reasonable clothes. Please not your active wear,
• 24:50
  Speaker 5: especially perhaps if you're non binary, because then you'd have
• 24:53
  Speaker 5: to decide to wear the female. Do I wear the male?
• 24:56
  Speaker 5: Do I wear something in the middle, I don't know.
• 24:58
  Speaker 5: I'll tell you what you can do if you're non binary, though,
• 25:01
  Speaker 5: get your hands on cheap insurance. Yes. A caller to
• 25:04
  Speaker 5: ben Fordham Onto GB uncovered this little hack because he
• 25:09
  Speaker 5: was filling out the forms online through a guitar insurance
• 25:13
  Speaker 5: or something, and he thought, I wonder, because they offer
• 25:16
  Speaker 5: you can say you're non binary now, so I wonder
• 25:19
  Speaker 5: if I say I'm non binary, what sort of quote
• 25:22
  Speaker 5: I will get? Well, let him tell you.
• 25:26
  Speaker 7: So you've ended all of the same details, but when
• 25:28
  Speaker 7: you click the non binary box, you get a cheaper policy.
• 25:31
  Speaker 8: Absolutely, yes, yeah, no. So I'm twenty two myself. So
• 25:34
  Speaker 8: I'm the bread and butter for insurance company, a twenty
• 25:37
  Speaker 8: two year old male. And yeah, I was just going
• 25:40
  Speaker 8: through doing some quotes the other night. I'm looking in
• 25:41
  Speaker 8: the process of purchasing a new car, and yeah, I've
• 25:45
  Speaker 8: found the box on there, and I thought, I'm just
• 25:46
  Speaker 8: gonna give it a kick and see what comes out
• 25:48
  Speaker 8: with it. Might be a bit of a joke, and yeah,
• 25:51
  Speaker 8: well joke is right. I was absolutely stunned at what
• 25:53
  Speaker 8: I found.
• 25:54
  Speaker 7: All of the other details were listed exactly the same.
• 25:57
  Speaker 8: Yeah, well I.
• 25:59
  Speaker 5: Rip angel pronouns? Are they then? And suddenly you get
• 26:02
  Speaker 5: cheaper insurance. I wish i'd thought of this one earlier.
• 26:06
  Speaker 5: Some of the insurers' insurers, sorry, include Alliance and the NRMA.
• 26:12
  Speaker 7: Did you try clicking female?
• 26:14
  Speaker 8: I did try clicking female, and I was surprised. So
• 26:17
  Speaker 8: NRMA came back at about twenty three hundred dollars for
• 26:20
  Speaker 8: the car under a female, and so, yeah, it was
• 26:24
  Speaker 8: still more expensive than what it was under the non
• 26:26
  Speaker 8: binary right.
• 26:27
  Speaker 7: So under NRMA, males pay the most, females in second place,
• 26:32
  Speaker 7: and the best deal goes to the non binary driver.
• 26:35
  Speaker 5: Yeah. Now, look, we know all of this stuff. It's
• 26:38
  Speaker 5: assessed that male drivers do worse stuff on the road,
• 26:43
  Speaker 5: probably true. Younger male drivers do worse stuff on the road,
• 26:47
  Speaker 5: probably true. So they get the highest insurance premiums. Women
• 26:51
  Speaker 5: get lower insurance premiums despite the fact they're worst drivers
• 26:54
  Speaker 5: than men in many cases. Into your complaints courtesy of
• 26:58
  Speaker 5: Caleb Bond.
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: Objectively, Well that whatsoever, young man are three times more
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: likely to get.
• 27:06
  Speaker 5: In I didn't specify young men were better drivers specifically anyway.
• 27:10
  Speaker 5: That's just the casual sexism to get you riled up
• 27:13
  Speaker 5: at home. That's what I'm here for, of course. But
• 27:16
  Speaker 5: they don't have data, well, I mean put it and
• 27:18
  Speaker 5: have data on non binary people because so few non
• 27:22
  Speaker 5: binary people have dipped on binary box and take for
• 27:25
  Speaker 5: the last five minutes, so they don't have any data,
• 27:29
  Speaker 5: so they don't really have anything to assess them on
• 27:31
  Speaker 5: as to whether they are more or less dangerous drivers,
• 27:34
  Speaker 5: And so you get a rip a deal now. Ali
• 27:36
  Speaker 5: Hansen and Rama both said this afternoon that they were
• 27:40
  Speaker 5: investigating this. So perhaps the loophole will disappear very soon,
• 27:45
  Speaker 5: probably by removing the non binary option, I suppose, because
• 27:48
  Speaker 5: I'm not sure what else you can do, but it's
• 27:50
  Speaker 5: a ripper if you want to give it a go tonight.
• 27:52
  Speaker 5: I'd get on it quickly.
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: If I was going to say, look back on this
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: date about six months from now, and you'll see at
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: least that's so spike in young men suddenly suffering from
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: gender dysphoria as they look for a cheaper deal on
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: their car insurance.
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: Where does this end?
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: Do you end up getting a special quote for a
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: two spirited pan sexual vegan because they have different driving capabilities?
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: You didn't mention Double Ami.
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: I'm insured with Double Ami, And if you go into
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: their website, which I did this afternoon, they only have
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: male and female, so it's not very inclusive at all.
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: But the website does say if you don't identify as
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: male or female, select the gender you are most comfortable with.
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: So there you go.
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: You can just choose your own adventure at double Ami
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: and your insurance quote will match whatever you fancy yourself
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: as extraorting.
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: People from just saying well, I'm more comfortable paying for
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: cheaper insurance and therefore, I'm more comfortable identifying as a female.
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: Is there any tests? Do they require your certificates?
• 28:55
  Speaker 5: Well, you're probably not at the time you take out
• 28:57
  Speaker 5: the policy, but if you made a magic claim, they'd
• 28:59
  Speaker 5: probably says fraudulent if you were a male claiming to
• 29:02
  Speaker 5: be a woman. But how do you do that with
• 29:03
  Speaker 5: non binary?
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: It's not fraudulent.
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: If having identified as a woman, you drive like a woman,
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: then it'sit.
• 29:10
  Speaker 5: But how do you do it with non binary? So
• 29:13
  Speaker 5: you take out the much cheaper non binary policy and
• 29:16
  Speaker 5: then you write off your car and you do forty
• 29:19
  Speaker 5: k or whatever it is. How do they disprove that
• 29:23
  Speaker 5: you are non binary?
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: I don't think they can, because on any day you
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: could be more male, more like, that's the whole thing,
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: your non binary.
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: You are no gender.
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: I don't think there would be any way for them
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: to disprove your non binary.
• 29:37
  Speaker 5: I did note because of course this chap called up.
• 29:40
  Speaker 5: We don't know which policy he took out, but the
• 29:42
  Speaker 5: good people at news dot com dot are you in
• 29:44
  Speaker 5: the story they wrote, were very careful in the copy
• 29:47
  Speaker 5: to leave open the possibility that he is non binary,
• 29:50
  Speaker 5: so he doesn't get in trouble if he takes out
• 29:51
  Speaker 5: the policy because the second paragraph said, a male driver
• 29:54
  Speaker 5: called into Radio Twog You've be in Sydney on Monday
• 29:56
  Speaker 5: to explain that they discovered a little bit of so
• 30:00
  Speaker 5: they well done. They've left the door open. He can
• 30:03
  Speaker 5: take out the non binary policy, and it's in writing
• 30:06
  Speaker 5: that he is actually a thee.
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: While we're talking about gender confusion, I'm going to tell
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: you about a university student in Oklahoma who failed her
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: psych assignment, which asked her to pontificate only six hundred
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: and fifty words. This assignment Just as an aside, since
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: when at university did you write assignment six hundred That's
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: like one piece of paper.
• 30:28
  Speaker 5: I knocked that stuff out in half an hour.
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: What are you talk about?
• 30:31
  Speaker 5: There?
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: You go?
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: Anyway, the assignment was on how people are perceived based
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: on societal expectations of gender. So anyway, Samantha Fulnecki is
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: a Christian and she wrote six hundred and fifty words
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: on how the Bible teachers there are only two genders,
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: and it's ridiculous to think of gender as being on
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: a spectrum.
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: It's certainly to think.
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: Of three or four or five genders. There's only two.
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: The Bible says, so now the professor is trans gendered,
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: which perhaps a student should have thought about before presenting
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: that assignment and expecting to pass. The transgendered professor failed
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: the student, saying that the student should not have written
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: what was personal ideology, but should have stuck with empirical evidence. Now,
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: I find it amusing that a professor who purports that
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: there are innumerable genders would ask students to stick with
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: empirical evidence. That's hilarious. But the transgendered professor said not
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: only was there no empirical evidence, but that the essay
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: was quite offensive.
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: I've got a couple of.
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: Thoughts on this, aside from criticizing the professor who believes
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: in multiple genders beyond male and female demanding empirical evidence,
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: that's nuts. But with regards the student, it's great that
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: a Christian student. I'm a Christian, I believe in the
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: Bible is a source of all authority. But when you're
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: writing an assignment for a professor so who doesn't believe
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: the Bible is any more authoritative than an Agatha Christie novel,
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: then maybe that's not the reference point to go to
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: in your uni assignment frame.
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: But her point was that stereotypes aren't necessarily a bad thing,
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: and she points to the Bible as the most prolific example,
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: the most influential piece of literature in perhaps the entire world,
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: that has clear roles for men and women, very clear
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: in Genesis, and so she goes, well, look.
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: They're a male and female right there.
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: In the oldest source of Western literature that we have.
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: So I would say the Bible, if you're trying to
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: write an essay about societal stereotypes of male and female,
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: it's probably a pretty good place to look, given it's
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: like the origin story of Western civilization.
• 32:49
  Speaker 5: I mean, there may be an argument that this carry
• 32:52
  Speaker 5: on about whether there are multiple genders didn't specifically relate
• 32:55
  Speaker 5: to the question at hand, which was about these societal
• 32:58
  Speaker 5: expectations that are placed upon gene which most of us
• 33:01
  Speaker 5: understand is that their expectations on boys and expectations on girls.
• 33:05
  Speaker 5: So it's probably a bit murky as to whether she
• 33:08
  Speaker 5: did go off the guardrails a bit, but you know,
• 33:11
  Speaker 5: you should, even even if you are a transgender lecturer,
• 33:16
  Speaker 5: you are teaching students and then marking their work, and
• 33:19
  Speaker 5: you should be able to do that in an objective
• 33:21
  Speaker 5: manner as well, regardless of whether or not you are
• 33:25
  Speaker 5: transgender or whatever else, it's simply your job. Just get
• 33:29
  Speaker 5: on with it.
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: Please.
• 33:30
  Speaker 5: Now, let's take off into the world of musicals, shall we,
• 33:34
  Speaker 5: Jesus Christ Superstar.
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: Or not?
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: Sorry?
• 33:40
  Speaker 5: I thought we had a little musical sting there, but
• 33:42
  Speaker 5: apparently we do not. I'll have to talk to the god.
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: No, it's back, it's back here.
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: It is.
• 33:53
  Speaker 5: The Gremlins. Finally a larned to give me that little sting.
• 33:59
  Speaker 5: But they do a new production of Jesus Christ Superstar
• 34:02
  Speaker 5: over in the UK. It was here in Australia I
• 34:06
  Speaker 5: think earlier this year, but they're doing a new run
• 34:09
  Speaker 5: in the UK, and well, would you believe it? You
• 34:12
  Speaker 5: got to have a trigger warning. Yes, people might be
• 34:15
  Speaker 5: offended if they go to Jesus Christ Superstar because it
• 34:20
  Speaker 5: depicts the Crucifixion. Yes, you can see it. There's a
• 34:23
  Speaker 5: content warning. Contains flashing lights and visual effects, piwate techniques.
• 34:27
  Speaker 5: We know all that stuff, theatrical smoke and hayes, some violence, imitation,
• 34:31
  Speaker 5: blood and an on stage to a picture of that
• 34:34
  Speaker 5: quota pection. Oh my god, how oh I can't believe it?
• 34:38
  Speaker 5: Can you go to Jesus Christ Superstar, which debuted in
• 34:42
  Speaker 5: nineteen seventy two, and you were shocked that they have
• 34:46
  Speaker 5: a depiction of the crucifixion. Do we really need to
• 34:49
  Speaker 5: be warned about this?
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: I think most people know that Jesus is crucified, but
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: they could have encouraged people with the fact he does
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: rise again. So it might be a little upsetting, but
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: only for three days. After that it all gets good.
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: This is typical, though, of what's happening in the UK.
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: The University of Sheffield warned students that the Gospels Matthew, Mark,
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: Luke and John in the Bible contain graphic bodily injury
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: and violence, and as well, the story of Cain and
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: Abel in the Bible came with a trigger warning for
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: students studying Western literature because of course Cain kills Abel,
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: or is it Abel kills Cain?
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: Always forget who kills who?
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: But the Bible doesn't even specify how one brother killed
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: the other. It's just and one boy killed the other boy.
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: That's about as graphic as it gets. But apparently students
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  Speaker 2: in twenty twenty five have to be warned that someone
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  Speaker 2: is going to be killed in the story less they
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  Speaker 2: are or upset when they read it.
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  Speaker 4: This is just so ridiculous.
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  Speaker 3: There have been three thousand performances of Jesus Christ Superstar
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  Speaker 3: since the nineteen seventies, for fifty years, and as we
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: discussed earlier, the Bible is the source text for Western civilization.
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  Speaker 3: If you don't realize go to a musical about Jesus
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: that there will be a crucifixion, then there's something not
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  Speaker 3: quite right in your brain. But I will say, James,
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: the problem with this musical, and one of the major
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  Speaker 3: criticisms of it, is that it doesn't actually depict the resurrection,
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  Speaker 3: or doesn't that know, It leaves the resurrection out.
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  Speaker 2: So the resurrection is kind of the point of the
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  Speaker 2: entire story.
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  Speaker 3: It is the entire point of the Gospel, and so
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  Speaker 3: I do understand in that respect. You know, you would
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  Speaker 3: leave feeling very sad because you haven't heard the good
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  Speaker 3: news the gospel, which is that Jesus did in fact
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  Speaker 3: rise from the dead three days later. So I don't know,
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: this is just another example of people being way too cents.
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  Speaker 1: There you go, We're going to go to a break.
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: When we come back, we'll look at what's making headlines tomorrow,
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  Speaker 2: including new data showing just how much power prices have
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  Speaker 2: increased under the Albanezy government. That and more in just
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: a moment. Welcome back to the program. During the break,
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: juice to reliably informed me it was Cain who killed Abel.
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  Speaker 1: So there you go.
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: He's fixed my bubble knowledge for me. Let's get into
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: tomorrow's headlines. We'll start with the Daily Telegraph. A couple
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: of cracking stories on the front page.
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  Speaker 4: Frame, Yes, big splash on the front page.
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  Speaker 3: It costs you twelve hundred dollars revealed the true price
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: of Labour's election lie on energy. The full scale of
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: Federal Labour's epic fail on power prices can be revealed
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: for the first time, with the average households in vast
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: parts of the state now paying twelve hundred dollars a
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: year more than Anthony Albanezi and Chris Bowen promised. In
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  Speaker 3: a further blow to the ALP's credibility, the Australian Energy
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  Speaker 3: Market Operator has worn New South Wales could face costly
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: intervention to avoid blackouts if the state's largest coal five
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: power station ering shuts too early. I mean, every single week,
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: it feels like we are just getting more and more
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  Speaker 3: data points that show one the huge lie that renewed
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: are the cheapest form of energy because it just hasn't happened.
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  Speaker 3: And two, how precarious our energy system really is. Airing
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  Speaker 3: is scheduled to close in twenty twenty eight, but there
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: is no suitable infrastructure or base load power to replace it.
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  Speaker 4: What's that going to leave us with?
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  Speaker 1: You come up with two points and three.
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  Speaker 2: It shows just how blatantly our government lied to us
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  Speaker 2: and then dismissed the lie. Last time I heard Anthony
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: Alberanze talk about the promised two hundred and seventy five
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  Speaker 2: dollars power price reduction, he was asked by a reporter
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: who laughed as he asked a question, and Anthony Albanezi
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: laughed at the idea he would provide any promises or
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: guarantees regarding prices in the future. It's an absolute joke,
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  Speaker 2: and Susan Lee should be taking this front page everywhere
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  Speaker 2: she goes until the next election.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, twelve hundred bucks, that's pretty significant for a
• 38:52
  Speaker 5: lot of people. There's, after taxing cup, twelve hundred bucks
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  Speaker 5: more than you were promised by this government. And I
• 39:00
  Speaker 5: didn't understand why the Libs did not hammer that during
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  Speaker 5: the federal election. They should have every ad should have
• 39:08
  Speaker 5: just been two hundred and seventy five dollars. Two hundred
• 39:10
  Speaker 5: and seventy five dollars two just absolutely hammer at home
• 39:13
  Speaker 5: because the only thing anyone cares about is cost of
• 39:15
  Speaker 5: living and this has been a major contributor to the
• 39:18
  Speaker 5: cost of living going up. The reality is there and
• 39:22
  Speaker 5: you are literally paying for.
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  Speaker 4: It, exactly right.
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  Speaker 3: Also on the front page of the Daily Telegraph tomorrow,
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: hospital parking a sick joke.
• 39:31
  Speaker 4: Families are paying through the nose.
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: To visit loved ones in hospital, With Western Sydney copying
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  Speaker 3: the brunt of an explosion in New South Wales Health
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  Speaker 3: parking fees, The Daily Telegraph can reveal New South Wales
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: Health raised almost eighty seven million dollars from car parking
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: fees last year, almost triple the amount raised in twenty
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: twenty three. The cash grab means that Health Minister Ryan
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: Park has presided over a massive fifty six million increase
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: in car parking revenue, despite calling when in opposition, for.
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  Speaker 4: The fees to be scrapped. Don't you just love that
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  Speaker 4: the opposition, Oh, it's unfair. How dare you charge people
• 40:14
  Speaker 4: to visit their relatives?
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  Speaker 3: Once they get into government and realize you actually need
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: money to run things up, well then they love it.
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  Speaker 4: But that is remarkable.
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  Speaker 3: An extra fifty million dollars that they're collecting car parking
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: fees from a hospital. That seems like daylight robbery.
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  Speaker 1: It is so wrong.
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  Speaker 2: And remember so many people, I mean everyone in hospital
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: I suppose is vulnerable, but you get a lot of
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: elderly people, and the government know full well that people
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: are not going to stay home rather than visit loved
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: ones in hospital because I don't want to pay the parking.
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: So it's guaranteed revenue from people who are at their
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: lowest EBB, who are thinking about life and death issues
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: many times. And the government's just going to ching Chi
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: Ching Chi ching without any concern for just trying to
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: help people when they're at there most vulnerable.
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  Speaker 5: I know, why do you have to park to get
• 41:02
  Speaker 5: to a public hospital? I understand that what I discourage
• 41:05
  Speaker 5: people from using the carbugga shouldn't use a card pack,
• 41:08
  Speaker 5: but just have a system whereby if you go in
• 41:10
  Speaker 5: visiting ours to see a patient, the patient has a
• 41:13
  Speaker 5: number of chips that they're allowed to give out to people,
• 41:16
  Speaker 5: and you cash that in when you walk out and
• 41:19
  Speaker 5: then you get your free parking extraordinary over to the
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  Speaker 5: front of The Australian tomorrow. I wish they had something
• 41:25
  Speaker 5: here about Oscar Piastre Jeez, didn't he get done over
• 41:29
  Speaker 5: by McLaren last night? The greatest scandal in Australian sport,
• 41:33
  Speaker 5: I think at the moment, but on of some more
• 41:35
  Speaker 5: serious stuff. The dodger Wong evasive by any estimate in
• 41:40
  Speaker 5: a ters exchange. Foreign Affairs Minister Penny Wong has refused
• 41:43
  Speaker 5: to accept that accusations she made against former Liberal Minister
• 41:47
  Speaker 5: Linda Reynolds and her chief of staff Fiona Brown of
• 41:50
  Speaker 5: a political cover up in the rape of Britney Higgins
• 41:52
  Speaker 5: were unfounded. Senator Woe repeatedly dodged questions during budget estimates
• 41:58
  Speaker 5: on Monday about findings by two senior judges that neither
• 42:01
  Speaker 5: woman had been party to a cover up, nor had
• 42:04
  Speaker 5: they treated was Higgins poorly. In the wake of the
• 42:06
  Speaker 5: rape allegations, the government has been unable to shake off
• 42:09
  Speaker 5: questions about its role in the scandal, despite Anthony Albaneze's
• 42:12
  Speaker 5: attempt two weeks ago to sideline the issue by claiming
• 42:16
  Speaker 5: he did not agree with the characterization of the case.
• 42:20
  Speaker 5: How can Wong suggest that she wasn't wrong and that
• 42:25
  Speaker 5: the claims were not unfounded when it's been through court
• 42:29
  Speaker 5: twice and we know what the answer is.
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: Clearly they're hoping to just bluff their way through this
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: period and hoping it will go away. There's an interesting
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: story a couple of days ago in The Australian that
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: Shadow Cabinet had decided not to pursue an inquiry into
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: this affair because they didn't like the look of the
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: rape allegations. Were the whole issue of rapes surfacing again
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: and the Liberal Party looking like they were.
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: Trying to.
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: Not reprosecute, but it would raise the whole thing again
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: and it would be ugly, and so they were prepared
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: to just let it die. So I think the government
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: accounting on that well.
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: I get that concern, but this was insane. This dominated
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: the media for months. This plagued Schomo with a legacy
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: of being anti woman. It's part of what gave rise
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: to the Tills as this kind of pro woman movement.
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: This was huge in Australian politics. There needs to be accountability.
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: They're also refusing to reveal how much money they're paying
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: these silks who are going up against Miss Brown and
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: Miss Reynolds in the latest iteration.
• 43:35
  Speaker 4: Of the court case.
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: So it's just they do not want any transparency on
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: this issue.
• 43:40
  Speaker 5: Also on the front of the Olds tomorrow more bangs
• 43:42
  Speaker 5: for bucks in alp sites will talk more about bang
• 43:46
  Speaker 5: for back on the front of the next paper as well.
• 43:48
  Speaker 5: The alban Eazy government will strip defensive responsibility for purchasing
• 43:51
  Speaker 5: billions of dollars of weapons and equipment each year, creating
• 43:54
  Speaker 5: a new procurement agency under an independent capabilities are who
• 43:57
  Speaker 5: will report directly to the minister to change who is
• 44:00
  Speaker 5: being spooked. As the biggest overhaul of defense in fifty years,
• 44:03
  Speaker 5: merging three major branches with six five hundred personnel into
• 44:07
  Speaker 5: a new defense delivery agency which will be responsible for
• 44:10
  Speaker 5: about forty percent of defense spending. What does Greg Sheridan
• 44:13
  Speaker 5: have to say about that? Well, he says Defense Minister
• 44:16
  Speaker 5: Richard Marles has announced amand a bureaucratic defense reshuffle in
• 44:19
  Speaker 5: the Vegas possible terms, which, if it has any consequence
• 44:23
  Speaker 5: at all, will contribute to a new round of paralysis
• 44:26
  Speaker 5: as Boffen's try to gain new structures while leaving all
• 44:29
  Speaker 5: the real problems completely unaddressed. In short, everyone who has
• 44:33
  Speaker 5: overseen the defense culture of failure in the past will
• 44:35
  Speaker 5: get to oversee it a new in the future, but
• 44:38
  Speaker 5: with different titles on their office doors. And so say
• 44:42
  Speaker 5: all of us.
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: You've got to love Greg Sheridan's columns all right quickly
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: the Mercury from Tasmania. The front page reads our party
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: a fizzer. How meddling Mainlanders could snuff out Tazzy's beloved Krakennite.
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: Victorian government red tape could kill off a much loved
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: Tasmanian fireworks tradition. According to the Deputy Premiere, Victorian safe
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: work bureaucrats have told Bright Star Tasmania is my main
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: Cracker Knight supplier. It can no longer ship fireworks through
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: the Port of Melbourne because they are illegal under the
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: Dangerous Goods Act. There was a similar issue with Firework
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: Night in the Northern Territory and New South Wales not processing,
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: and that was worked out at the top level.
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: Hopefully this will be as well.
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: We're going to go to a break when we come back.
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: A football match abandoned after a fireworks display gets completely
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: out of control. We'll show you what happened in just
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: a moment well before the break, we were talking about fireworks.
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: In Tasmania, there was fireworks at a football game.
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: Frag got a little bit out of control.
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: Indeed, just five minutes into this game between the Dutch
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: team Aax and groaning in, the whole game had to
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: be shut down because there was a pyrotechnique display that
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: was let off, shutting the typing down.
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  Speaker 4: Have a look.
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: Now, it was fans that set that off in honor
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: of one of their friends who was I quote an
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: Aax Ultra, a hooligan apparently, but who unfortunately passed away.
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: So wow, I mean that would be pretty scary if
• 46:30
  Speaker 3: you were in the stadium.
• 46:31
  Speaker 4: That was like a wall of fireworks.
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I reckon. That was probably a little more than
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: they had planned on. Speaking of fires, there's a massive
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: fire on Saturday night in western Sydney when a chemical
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: waste plant went up in flames of a look, oh.
• 47:01
  Speaker 4: Why thank you? That's dang.
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: Incredible flames going about one hundred and fifty meters into
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: the air. Two hundred firefighters called from fifty different units
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: to try to get under control. One firefighter told local
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: media it was a once in a career experience and
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: I think we can also thank God for that. People
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: in a half kilometer radius told do not leave your house.
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: They endorse such with the fumes, Lady Yew, that.
• 47:33
  Speaker 5: Is a hell of a fire. Thankfully, you know only
• 47:35
  Speaker 5: a couple of firefighters, the hands injured or remarkable raining
• 47:40
  Speaker 5: down with concrete. And you know, it's hard to think
• 47:43
  Speaker 5: of a more serious fire than that. Now, you may remember,
• 47:47
  Speaker 5: if you are a devote of cricket, forty three odd
• 47:49
  Speaker 5: years ago, during the eighty two to eighty three season,
• 47:53
  Speaker 5: while the poems were out here, couple of bloke snugger
• 47:56
  Speaker 5: pig into the gabber and they managed to let the
• 47:59
  Speaker 5: whole go on the field. Now they finally come out
• 48:03
  Speaker 5: and told their story. You can see the pig there
• 48:06
  Speaker 5: with both of them written on the side of it
• 48:07
  Speaker 5: to Ian, both of them. Of course, they've told their
• 48:10
  Speaker 5: story forty three full years later. This comes via Ian
• 48:13
  Speaker 5: Crawford who's told his story to the Courier Mail, and
• 48:16
  Speaker 5: he said they had to get hold of this pig.
• 48:18
  Speaker 5: So they found a farmer. They had boys from outside
• 48:20
  Speaker 5: of Lismore. They found a farmer who would sell them
• 48:22
  Speaker 5: a pig. They chucked in five back seat. They put
• 48:25
  Speaker 5: the pig in a crate on the top of the
• 48:27
  Speaker 5: car and drove it all the way to the gabba.
• 48:30
  Speaker 5: They get to the gabba and tried to pass it
• 48:33
  Speaker 5: over a fence in a bag but got caught, so
• 48:35
  Speaker 5: they got it into the gabba in a broccoli box
• 48:38
  Speaker 5: under the nose of a police officer, and then of
• 48:41
  Speaker 5: course let it go and the rest is history. How's
• 48:45
  Speaker 5: that for a bit of ossie ingenuity by some good
• 48:47
  Speaker 5: old boys.
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: The real questions who won the game?
• 48:49
  Speaker 5: I remember the game Australia.
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: Then the pig totally put ian both of them off
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: his game, Australia triumph. That's it from us, stick around
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  Speaker 2: coming up in a moment.
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  Speaker 1: It is the reader Pennety Show. Good Night,