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Inter scoring machines & Azzurri Nations League Preview - Ep. 243 Ft. Calcio with Julian · The Calcio Guys

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  Speaker 1: Another week more Couture to talk about you on the
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  Speaker 1: couch guys with the Giane. I'm Nicholas Couch you guys.
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  Speaker 1: and joining us this week is Julian from Culture with
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  Speaker 1: Julian get Italian Football News Network. Right in our own
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  Speaker 1: backyard are Paisan here Montreal. Julian, how's it going and fine?
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  Speaker 2: Thanks?
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  Speaker 3: How are you guys doing?
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  Speaker 2: We're good, We're good.
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  Speaker 4: We're long overdue with this, Julian, so we're happy to
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  Speaker 4: have you back on. It's been I think we're off air.
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  Speaker 4: We're talking a bit. It's been almost two years, so
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  Speaker 4: long overdue. But again, thank you for taking the time
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  Speaker 4: to come on.
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  Speaker 3: No, thank you guys for having me on. Looking forward
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  Speaker 3: to it.
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  Speaker 5: It was a spectacular match week seven, so it feels
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  Speaker 5: good to be talking about it with you guys, especially
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  Speaker 5: that we're all from Nia, so it's great.
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  Speaker 3: It's a great reunion.
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  Speaker 2: That's it.
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  Speaker 1: A good little run for your intern now pretty much
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  Speaker 1: since losing in the derby win three two versus Udinese,
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  Speaker 1: win four, not thing versus Red Star Belgrade in the
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  Speaker 1: champions like a win three two versus h Torino in
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  Speaker 1: in uh this past weekend in the city. But I mean, like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, jumping back to that derby, I mean, yes,
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  Speaker 1: these three wins are nice, but I think at the
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  Speaker 1: end of the day, Julie, you probably would have liked
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  Speaker 1: the derby win as well.
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  Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, the derby win whend have felt nice, Especially
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  Speaker 5: the way we lost. I think we were pretty much
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  Speaker 5: like outclass, despite some moments here and there where we dominate.
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  Speaker 5: I just feel like overall, Fontzeca deployed a very well executed,
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  Speaker 5: faster class tactically. Even the players technically they they they
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  Speaker 5: stuck to the coach, to the coach's tactics. They trusted
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  Speaker 5: him and it worked out. So just a little bit
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  Speaker 5: disappointed by the way we lost. Obviously a win even
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  Speaker 5: a draw at that point, considering me Lam, we're playing
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  Speaker 5: that much better and we're far more men seem that
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  Speaker 5: intern in the final third, I think a point would
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  Speaker 5: have made me feel satisfied. But but definitely when you
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  Speaker 5: enter these derbies, you want to win. But uh, overall,
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  Speaker 5: of course happy with the results. But again the derby.
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  Speaker 5: When the derby defeat still stinks for sure, absolutely.
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  Speaker 2: I mean was saying you had a bunch of them,
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  Speaker 2: so for me, yeah, it was about time. I think
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  Speaker 2: I think you could have left one for us. So no,
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  Speaker 2: but always I think you said it well. Ling. We
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  Speaker 2: spoke about it after after the.
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  Speaker 6: Derby on the show, and you know, I think, for
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  Speaker 6: for once, uh, you know, we finally saw a change, uh,
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  Speaker 6: in terms of pay point of view, you know, a
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  Speaker 6: different different system, a different approach, you know, a different
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  Speaker 6: lineup in terms of the formation.
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  Speaker 4: Everything going back to the traditional four four two seem
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  Speaker 4: to work for for Milan. But yeah, I think after that,
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  Speaker 4: I don't know if you're if you can say it
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  Speaker 4: to Julian, but uh to I think definitely woke up
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  Speaker 4: because I think going into the derby, I don't know
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  Speaker 4: if they look past Melon like I don't. We can't
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  Speaker 4: say that, we don't know one hundred percent, but you know,
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  Speaker 4: it seemed like, you know what, we had their numbers
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  Speaker 4: so many years, so many derbies in a row, like
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  Speaker 4: will take mean and maybe a bit more lightly than
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  Speaker 4: they probably should have. Uh. You know, it ultimately didn't
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  Speaker 4: help them in the end, but I think busting in
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  Speaker 4: disguise you lose that derby, You're going on a on
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  Speaker 4: a three game winning streak in all competitions.
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  Speaker 2: So is that is that more on in.
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  Speaker 4: Zagie Dreman in terms of getting his his his players
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  Speaker 4: going or is that just the class of the players
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  Speaker 4: that you have, the depth that you guys have in
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  Speaker 4: your roster.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's a mixture of everything.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, the way we started the derby, like the
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  Speaker 5: way we said there be like everybody expected the opposite,
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  Speaker 5: like in there to be dominating and you and Milan
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  Speaker 5: to be in a low.
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  Speaker 3: Block and hoping for the counter.
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  Speaker 5: But rather like the first ten minutes in there looked
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  Speaker 5: so uncomfortable, like they weren't able to keep possession and Melan,
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  Speaker 5: we're just moving the balls so comfortably, and they managed
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  Speaker 5: to get that first goal. And so I think, like
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  Speaker 5: the story, the way inter have been starting these games
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  Speaker 5: since the Meland Derby have been really poor, Like I
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  Speaker 5: feel like the way they commenced these these the games
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  Speaker 5: have been quite disappointing. They looked flat footed and it
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  Speaker 5: took them a while to get into it. I think
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  Speaker 5: it's a mixture of Inzagi the fatigue. People are saying
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  Speaker 5: perhaps the pre season was a little bit too hard,
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  Speaker 5: too harsh, perhaps in Zaggie over random considering it's probably
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  Speaker 5: longest season in history and Inter are featuring in all competitions.
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  Speaker 5: But definitely I think the the Milan derby was definitely
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  Speaker 5: awakening in the sense that this although Inter in my opinion,
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  Speaker 5: are still the best team on paper, this uh, this
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  Speaker 5: title charge, defending the title will not be an easy
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  Speaker 5: task and it's not definitely not not for granted, it's uh,
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  Speaker 5: you're gonna have to fight to earn it.
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  Speaker 3: And from I think.
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  Speaker 5: They took off pretty well considering a bad start against Milan.
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  Speaker 5: They commenced brilliantly against Uz literally the first minute, scored
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  Speaker 5: in the second half too, we got it really go
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  Speaker 5: I think definitely Intered are improving, but still I think
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  Speaker 5: one of the main weaknesses that in the side is defensively,
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  Speaker 5: which was arguably the greatest strengths last year.
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  Speaker 3: One of the greatest strengths last year.
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  Speaker 5: If we look at the stats last season, we conceded
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  Speaker 5: twenty two goals of the whole season. Already we're at
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  Speaker 5: nine and seven games played, and last year Intered were phenomenal.
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  Speaker 5: I think one of the main reasons why Inter won
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  Speaker 5: the Scudetto was just their ability to suffer. Well, everybody
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  Speaker 5: talks about that, like I'm having la grinta. Last season,
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  Speaker 5: Intered had a phenomenal record of barely considered goal in
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  Speaker 5: the last fifteen minutes, and already we conceded six, which
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  Speaker 5: is more than the entirety of last season in the.
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  Speaker 3: Last fifteen minutes.
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  Speaker 5: So it's just we're not even I feel like we
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  Speaker 5: just had if we were to be in those tight
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  Speaker 5: games where we'd be winning one zero or holding off
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  Speaker 5: a draw in the last fifty minutes. At this stage,
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  Speaker 5: at the moment that we seem too fragile. There's a
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  Speaker 5: lack of mental focus in the find in the back line,
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  Speaker 5: especially in.
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  Speaker 3: Tradition where it's slow.
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  Speaker 5: So I just feel like at this stage in the
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  Speaker 5: need to wake up the defensively r else I don't
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  Speaker 5: see intertinching.
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  Speaker 1: I kind of want to talk about the other side,
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  Speaker 1: though we talked about this defensive side. But you look
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  Speaker 1: at their offense, best offense in Citia right now sixteen
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  Speaker 1: goals scored, tied with Atalanta. So the two net A
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  Speaker 1: Zuti teams, uh, that pretty fitting that have the most
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  Speaker 1: goals scored in the in the league at sixteen through
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  Speaker 1: seven games, but it's crazy sixteen for Inter seven them
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  Speaker 1: from Turam so nine to their goals from a guy
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  Speaker 1: not named Turam. Regardless, someone's got to score. You're you're
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  Speaker 1: you're paying the guy us your striker, he's doing his job.
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  Speaker 1: Do you think for for Intern that's just going to
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  Speaker 1: be their identity this season where they're just gonna outscore
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  Speaker 1: teams or they're just gonna go score two, three, four
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  Speaker 1: or five even five goals a game, or or do
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  Speaker 1: you think this is maybe not sustainable throughout thirty eight games.
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  Speaker 3: No, I think.
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  Speaker 5: I think definitely compared to the last season in Ton
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  Speaker 5: have more depth of top like compared to last season
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  Speaker 5: like top, we have a met the addition of Mediaemi
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  Speaker 5: Zelenski in the midfield as well, who's known to be
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  Speaker 5: a somewhat of a prolific goal scorer from distance throughout
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  Speaker 5: this time at Nate Monopoly, I think right now, like
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  Speaker 5: I think, the only disappointing part was was Lotto Martinez
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  Speaker 5: a slow start to the season, but he seems to
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  Speaker 5: be picking it up after a brace again to the
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  Speaker 5: going scoring a goal on the champions Zee, So I
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  Speaker 5: think he's picking it up but but no, I think
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  Speaker 5: one thing, despite the defensive wos, I guess I would say,
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  Speaker 5: I think into one thing that they've been doing well
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  Speaker 5: is still producing those those uh those attacking uh those
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  Speaker 5: are those chances in the final third and finishing them clinically.
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  Speaker 5: Especially Marcus Have I think he's a I think he's
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  Speaker 5: a pretty last season, I think he was he be
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  Speaker 5: proven to be an overall complete player, and I think
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  Speaker 5: the one part that he could have improved on was
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  Speaker 5: his finishing that this year, like he's proven to be
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  Speaker 5: the true, the true number one slash bomba so far
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  Speaker 5: this season, I mean seven goals in the nine and
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  Speaker 5: nine matches.
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  Speaker 1: And what's his what's his contract situation like, because already
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  Speaker 1: you could probably think maybe he's gonna ask for the
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  Speaker 1: big bucks. I don't know what is what is his
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  Speaker 1: contract situation?
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  Speaker 2: Like?
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  Speaker 1: Sorry, sorry to schedule off, Adrian.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it's probably what maybe has another four
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  Speaker 5: years left. Definitely he's gonna want to I feel like
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  Speaker 5: that are going to try to submit an increase offer soon,
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  Speaker 5: especially that currently he's the top goal scorer. I think
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  Speaker 5: he eventually, it's it's bound to happen, for sure.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, everybody wants to buy the right No, but it's
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  Speaker 4: the truth, right everybody. Everybody is looking for the money.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, you know, I know we love the beautiful game,
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  Speaker 4: but at the end of the day, these guys want
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  Speaker 4: to get paid and what the what their value that
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  Speaker 4: sometimes that's sustainable, sometimes that's not depending on the club.
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  Speaker 4: But one thing that you touched upon and speaking about.
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  Speaker 2: To dam yeah, you know, having.
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  Speaker 4: The depth and having not to only rely on a
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  Speaker 4: guy like Twer Martinez, especially with the competitions that interor
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  Speaker 4: in like a top team usually is in, you know,
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  Speaker 4: with this new Champions League format and uh and you
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  Speaker 4: know obviously the grind of Ceia and obviously copatality as well,
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  Speaker 4: but you know how important is that and is that
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  Speaker 4: something that you can see helping in in in in
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  Speaker 4: all these competitions in terms of can Inter you know,
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  Speaker 4: maybe Inter doesn't go back to back in terms of
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  Speaker 4: way in the scudetto, but a top four finish. How
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  Speaker 4: does the Champions League look for you? Like where where
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  Speaker 4: are you kind of are you kind of spreading your
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  Speaker 4: eggs in all the baskets or you're kind of really
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  Speaker 4: trying to focus on one basically?
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  Speaker 2: Is the question?
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  Speaker 3: No, I think in Zagi has made it clear in
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  Speaker 3: the media.
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  Speaker 5: I think they I think just recently they just had
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  Speaker 5: an interview with him and they said that. They asked them,
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  Speaker 5: would you rather win the Scudetto again or the Champions League?
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  Speaker 5: He said the interview, We compete for all the competitions,
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  Speaker 5: so I think that speaks volumes and I.
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  Speaker 3: Think definitely the depth helps.
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  Speaker 5: Like having a luxury midfield of Zelenski Aslani Barella, Theatali
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  Speaker 5: having that six as their midfield, a luxury Center Center Park,
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  Speaker 5: It's just remarkable. I think, like definitely that the depth
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  Speaker 5: will definitely allow us to compete somewhat in all competitions
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  Speaker 5: for sure, and I think that's the goals to try
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  Speaker 5: to win as many competitions as any cups as we could.
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  Speaker 1: Champions League so we said, like what we said, three two,
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  Speaker 1: sorry for nothing versus Red Star. Their first game, I'm
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  Speaker 1: trying a blank. D'm just put I'm just pulling it
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  Speaker 1: up with their first game in the Champions League was
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  Speaker 1: it was the Men City Games. There was a right
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  Speaker 1: the rematch of the final from twenty twenty three, so
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  Speaker 1: they have four points.
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  Speaker 2: Now.
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  Speaker 1: I haven't checked the Champion Zeague table, but just you know,
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  Speaker 1: curiously your thoughts on this new format.
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  Speaker 5: It's interesting, it really is interesting. I find it's too many.
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  Speaker 5: I find like it's an interesting format, but just like
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  Speaker 5: between the League, the Italian the top of the it's
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  Speaker 5: just too many games to these players.
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  Speaker 3: Fine, yeah, that's my only criticism.
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  Speaker 5: Like, although it's exciting, like at the end of the day,
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  Speaker 5: like they're humans, they can get over run.
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  Speaker 1: You're right, and you know what that that's just one
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  Speaker 1: thing I thought about Bramer tearing his ACL you know
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  Speaker 1: Bremer it was in the Champions League. You know, I'm
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  Speaker 1: not saying, you know, it's directly because of those games,
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  Speaker 1: but it's just the audition and the continuously more and
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  Speaker 1: more games. It takes a toll on the body. Eventually,
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  Speaker 1: it sucks, especially for Trino guy like Zapata. They had
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  Speaker 1: a good start. And you know, one thing I'll say
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  Speaker 1: before we continue. You've a Yes, it sucks that we
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  Speaker 1: lost Grammar. It's huge loss, but it feels like they
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  Speaker 1: have they have the depth there and and they can
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  Speaker 1: replaced him three to oh not so much. You know,
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  Speaker 1: there's already rumors of them wanting Balletelli, so uh, you know,
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  Speaker 1: from us We're wishing those two guys all the best.
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  Speaker 1: I know they're probably not listening, but you know, a
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  Speaker 1: c L it's it's one of the worst injuries injuries
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  Speaker 1: in sports. You know. One of my one of my
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  Speaker 1: friends towards a cl skiing, uh in February, and and
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  Speaker 1: he told me about it, and it's just terrible, terrible process.
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  Speaker 1: So uh, I just wanted to jump in and talk
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  Speaker 1: about that.
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  Speaker 4: But uh uh I think I think I think this
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  Speaker 4: whole thing with the too many games, like we've been.
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  Speaker 1: Saying this, oh since the pandemic.
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  Speaker 4: Since the pandemic, really right, like games keep on adding
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  Speaker 4: games and you know, like, yeah, we can speak up
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  Speaker 4: about it, Yeah, players can speak up about it.
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  Speaker 7: But at the end of the day, like.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think personally, I don't think those things will change,
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  Speaker 4: and like and if they do, it it's not going
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  Speaker 4: to be that of a difference. Like you go from
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  Speaker 4: a tournament year in the summer with a Euro or
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  Speaker 4: a World Cup and there's these Nations League games there
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  Speaker 4: we have, you know, all these competitions you know for
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  Speaker 4: the clubs.
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  Speaker 2: Uh, it's just.
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  Speaker 4: You know, pock schedule from from from the beginning of
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  Speaker 4: the season to the end and there's really no break again.
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  Speaker 4: I know people are gonna say, well, listen, these guys
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  Speaker 4: are getting paid millions and millions of dollars to play
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  Speaker 4: this game. They shouldn't complain, but to play Devil's Advocate, right,
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  Speaker 4: Like you said, Julian, you know, these are human beings
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  Speaker 4: as well, and uh, you know they deserve the rest
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  Speaker 4: to be able to perform at the highest of levels.
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  Speaker 4: For people to pay tickets to go to these games,
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  Speaker 4: that want to see the best players on the pitch
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  Speaker 4: at all times. Right, So it's a it's a really
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  Speaker 4: uh you know, it's a catch twenty two. It's it's
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  Speaker 4: a real give and take, I think.
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  Speaker 7: But you know, I don't know the the.
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  Speaker 4: Overall in terms of the Champions League forma, not only
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  Speaker 4: for inter but like, uh, is it something that you
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  Speaker 4: think is a sustainable format for the Champions League because
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  Speaker 4: everybody said they didn't onto super league. We wanted to
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  Speaker 4: say football, but it seems like they're putting the Super
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  Speaker 4: League idea and naming it the Champions League. I don't
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  Speaker 4: know if you're if you have any thoughts on that, Julian,
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  Speaker 4: but it's just something that we've spoken about on the
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  Speaker 4: show and just want to maybe hear your thoughts about it.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I know, it's literally that. For me, it's just
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  Speaker 5: literally the super League something similar to the Super League concept,
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  Speaker 5: just under I mean, whether it's going to be sustainable
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  Speaker 5: or not, I think it's still too early to tell,
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  Speaker 5: but it's interesting, it's an interesting concept. Well, we'll see
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  Speaker 5: how it goes for the rest of the season, but.
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  Speaker 3: Overall, I think it's been it's been interesting so far.
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  Speaker 5: I think a lot a lot of the people's main
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  Speaker 5: criticism was that too many small teams, but yet like
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  Speaker 5: a lot of those minerals have been pulling upset, So
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  Speaker 5: it's pretty interesting.
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  Speaker 4: For me.
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  Speaker 1: What I I'm a big I guess concerned about this
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  Speaker 1: format is when you had the group stage, the team
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  Speaker 1: you played one week, uh, you know, the team you
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  Speaker 1: played two weeks, they're gonna play each other the week after.
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  Speaker 1: So you're just playing the same teams, and you're you're
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  Speaker 1: playing the teams you need a battle with in terms
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  Speaker 1: of position, and that's not that may not necessarily be
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  Speaker 1: the case here. You you look at you look at
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  Speaker 1: you've a you've's a seventh place right now they have
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  Speaker 1: six points inters in ninth place. At four points, they're
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  Speaker 1: not going to play each other, so you don't have
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  Speaker 1: those those direct battles, like there's still a chance that
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  Speaker 1: you could like Uve and man City are seven to
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  Speaker 1: eight right now, and uh, they will play each other
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  Speaker 1: towards the end. But you know, for me, it's it's
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  Speaker 1: those games like every season, it almost feels like it's
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  Speaker 1: a regular season NHL game. That's what it feels like,
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  Speaker 1: so you know, or you could say, you know, just
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  Speaker 1: a regular city a game just in the middle of
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  Speaker 1: the week, and sure, yes it has a nice dressing
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  Speaker 1: and champions like this and that. But for me, it
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  Speaker 1: seems like the more most important games obviously are gonna knockout.
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  Speaker 1: But it feels like the jump now from group stage
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  Speaker 1: or whatever they call this league face the knockout is huge.
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  Speaker 1: Like I don't know how explain it. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: if you agree with me, Julian it maybe it's the hype.
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  Speaker 1: Let's just say it's the hype.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, Like I see what you mean, Like it's these
• 16:13
  Speaker 5: first couple of games aren't as important compared to like
• 16:16
  Speaker 5: the group stage games like would be like for sure, yeah,
• 16:19
  Speaker 5: and especially like it's only got more heated and exciting
• 16:23
  Speaker 5: perhaps towards the end of the like the last stages
• 16:26
  Speaker 5: of the group stage, because right now, like everyone's like
• 16:29
  Speaker 5: pretty much level and like there's just such small differences
• 16:33
  Speaker 5: between them in terms of points. So it's too early
• 16:36
  Speaker 5: to tell that who's gonna make it. In fact, like
• 16:38
  Speaker 5: I think it's gonna be done probably down to gold
• 16:40
  Speaker 5: of both of friends. Was gonna be key in this
• 16:43
  Speaker 5: in this, in this new format of the Champions.
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 16:48
  Speaker 4: Agree.
• 16:49
  Speaker 7: And it even though it eliminates kind of like you know,
• 16:51
  Speaker 7: the home and away you.
• 16:52
  Speaker 4: Know your exactly have to play you in my home.
• 16:54
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna come to your home to go play and exactly,
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: you know, it kind of loses.
• 16:58
  Speaker 7: That and and and and like said, like kind.
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: Of just you know, obviously you know who you're gonna
• 17:02
  Speaker 4: be playing because the schedule already comes out.
• 17:04
  Speaker 7: Sure, but like you know you have to prepare, uh.
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: For these three teams and home and Away and you
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: know how it's gonna go down again.
• 17:14
  Speaker 4: It is interesting. I think that's really the word.
• 17:15
  Speaker 7: To say for it.
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: It's it's really a wait and see. How I do
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: agree with that common Julian because.
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: It's just so it's still brand new. It's still fresh.
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: It's still something like we've gone to what two match
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: days in the Champions League so far, so you know,
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: there's there's I don't know, it just I think it
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: just takes away from what the what the Champions League
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: was at the uniqueness.
• 17:36
  Speaker 7: And and you know, you get you get uh you know, you.
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: Get your groups, you play the groups, and then you
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: after that it's it's it's a knockout stage. And I
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: don't know, I guys think it just loses that that
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: that feel, that touch. But listen, I guess you know,
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: we'll come back to maybe this conversation maybe after this,
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: after the season, and I kind of really judge it
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: after from that, but just kind of want to bring
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: it back team to specifically Julian. You know, we start
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: off obviously with with what we saw currently in this
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: current inter but coming into the season, and we probably
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: should have askually this first, but I'm gonna ask you
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: now coming into the season obviously off the off the
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: school had to win last season, Like, what were your
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: expectations coming into this season and are those like, yeah,
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: basically what are your what were your expectations and what
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: were your your feelings with how the Mercato went and
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: and kind of how this early started the season started freeing.
• 18:25
  Speaker 5: To the metcat overall wasn't very active, which I was expecting.
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: Continuing we just won.
• 18:32
  Speaker 5: The Schoodet, so I just didn't think that there was
• 18:36
  Speaker 5: many changes needed also like a change the transitions to
• 18:41
  Speaker 5: the ownership.
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: Et cetera.
• 18:43
  Speaker 5: Like with the euro as well too, Like I think
• 18:45
  Speaker 5: the Euros definitely slowed everyone's Metcato down quite a bit,
• 18:49
  Speaker 5: like it only got intense towards the end, like when
• 18:53
  Speaker 5: the season started. Towards the end of the like the
• 18:55
  Speaker 5: transfer window, I think that's when all pretty much all
• 18:58
  Speaker 5: the signings occurred. Like throughout the year also was pretty slow.
• 19:01
  Speaker 5: But I think overall, in terms of the season, I
• 19:07
  Speaker 5: still had the inter winning the Schooldeto simply because to me,
• 19:11
  Speaker 5: like having the same renewing in Zagie's contract, Lotao and Baralla,
• 19:17
  Speaker 5: maintaining all their stars for once. For once, it feels
• 19:21
  Speaker 5: like the first time in forever that he managed to
• 19:23
  Speaker 5: keep everybody. I just feel like having that continuity is
• 19:28
  Speaker 5: huge going into the season.
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: Maintaining that continuity was huge heading into this season.
• 19:33
  Speaker 5: So I think being able to have in Zangi the
• 19:38
  Speaker 5: mestead of being able to hear for him, having him
• 19:40
  Speaker 5: there to portray his philosophy a play and continue what
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: he was building on last season. I think for me
• 19:48
  Speaker 5: was one of my main reasons for having them to
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: defend the title again. But I think definitely one thing
• 19:55
  Speaker 5: that has just been disappointing, which is how poor they've
• 19:58
  Speaker 5: been so far, the defensively and the slow start to
• 20:02
  Speaker 5: the Tattles to the Tattle season. I didn't expect him
• 20:06
  Speaker 5: to have such a long goal drought. But other than that,
• 20:11
  Speaker 5: I mean, it's been pretty It's been pretty good so
• 20:13
  Speaker 5: far considering the how many games they've been playing, and
• 20:17
  Speaker 5: it's pretty good so far, how they've been able to
• 20:19
  Speaker 5: compete in all competitions and maintain maintain the top four
• 20:24
  Speaker 5: spot in the setia A definitely struggling, definitely not the
• 20:29
  Speaker 5: same intern we saw last season so far, but overall
• 20:31
  Speaker 5: there they're still there. They're still tight open tenders and
• 20:34
  Speaker 5: not too far not so it's been impressive.
• 20:37
  Speaker 7: I think.
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: I think also, like like we were saying on the
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: show in the past couple of weeks, it's like, I
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: don't think for personally, I don't think. I don't know
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: if you guys think different. But like how eater run
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: away with the last season, how not we ran away
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: with good this season prior.
• 20:50
  Speaker 7: I don't know if we're going to see that this season.
• 20:51
  Speaker 7: I feel like it's at.
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: The top teams got better, you know, teams that have
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: improved and maybe not even in the market, but making
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: them point is not like selling some some dead world
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: new philosophy, new coaches. So I think that top of
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: the table race so far, again, very still early, so
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: it's hard to say, but you know, I don't, I don't,
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: I don't. I don't foresee it being like somebody really
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: running away with it like we saw with Interre and
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: then not with two seasons ago. So I think that's
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: something to look out for and it's going to be exciting,
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: probably down to the wire, which it seems to always
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: be until these these last two seconds, Like you know,
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: teams run away with it.
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: And you know, compared to the last season's last season,
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: obviously they won the School that Toe, but in terms
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: of the other competitions, they were knocked out around the
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: sixteen in both Champions League and Cope Italian. So you
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: talk about continuity, continuity, talk about you know, improvement, where
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: do you want to see Inter in terms of those
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: competitions like Cope Italia and Champions Like obviously you want
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: to see them win the school Atto again, but in
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: terms of have a better season, they need to get
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: you know, passed around the sixteen both in both of
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: those competitions, so you know it's also a balanced game too, right,
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: So so how do you how do you see that, Julian.
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's definitely gonna be It's definitely gonna be tough.
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: It's not easy.
• 22:07
  Speaker 5: It's never easy competing for so many competitions simultaneously, but
• 22:12
  Speaker 5: I think especially in the Champions League like Inter have
• 22:16
  Speaker 5: to make it further. I think that was one of
• 22:17
  Speaker 5: the only very disappointing parts of the season, was just
• 22:20
  Speaker 5: not making it past that Taiico Madrid in the in
• 22:23
  Speaker 5: that round the sixteen match. I definitely would like to
• 22:27
  Speaker 5: see into at least compete in the quarterfinals for sure,
• 22:31
  Speaker 5: especially after having that taste of almost winning the final
• 22:35
  Speaker 5: against City. I think even the Jessic room felt that
• 22:38
  Speaker 5: that the that the it just for them. It made
• 22:42
  Speaker 5: them feel like we could actually compete with the best
• 22:45
  Speaker 5: of Europe. So I would love to see into the
• 22:47
  Speaker 5: go far again, which I think they could given the
• 22:50
  Speaker 5: great quality that they have and in all positions this season.
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: Absolutely, I mean it was it was about time we
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: saw an Italian team in the final, right right, Yeah,
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: It's been a long time, so just to see that again.
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: I mean it's not the team I would have liked there.
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: But no, for sure, at least it was an Italian
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: for sure.
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: It's one thing to say and listen, they hung they
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: hung in there, and I was we all watched the
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: game like.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: They really hung in there.
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: If if it wasn't for a stroke of brilliance by Roger,
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: like I could have been held just another game, right,
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: different type of results.
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: So I think they they held their own, uh for sure.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: And we even saw.
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: It, like like you guys said in the in the
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: opening Champions League matchup this year, they were able to
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: to get another note with with the city, so they
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: were able to hold their own.
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: And I think we need that to continue in terms
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: of a league.
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: In terms of said he had to progress in Europe,
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: we need these teams to continue and progress and and
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: uh and and improve you know, year and the year
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: out in these competitions.
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: So I forgot to mention into one of the super
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: Copa last season, so you know throw that in. This
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: season's back to the fourteen format in Saudi Arabia. Inter
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: you've a Milan and Atalanta to be played in January.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: So that's a conversation for another day, Julian. Before we
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: move on to talk about a Judi, I just want
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: to you know, look forward for interest schedule for the
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: month of October where they you know, it's actually pretty
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: interesting it it looks like it's gonna be a tough
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: schedule for inter coming back from this international break. Coming up,
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: they got Roma, they got Champions League, Champions League away
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: against young Boys that they got Juve on the twenty
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: seventh emple Venetzia and then home to Arsenal and Champions League,
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: and then they played Napolly November tenth, and then there's
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: the last international break of the year. So a couple
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: of a couple of tough opponents obviously in the city,
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: but then obviously you throw in the Champions League games.
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: That makes it tough for what do you want to see?
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: And you know what, I think I know your answer
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: because you're probably gonna say that, you know, improving defensively,
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: but what do you want to see from this intern
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: in these in these.
• 24:57
  Speaker 5: Games, I think, I just want to see you in
• 25:01
  Speaker 5: Zagie try to utilize his depth to the full, to
• 25:05
  Speaker 5: the full potential, and just find the right balance between
• 25:09
  Speaker 5: rotating the players and obtaining the the results. And I
• 25:13
  Speaker 5: think so far he seems to have struggled with the
• 25:18
  Speaker 5: utilizing his depth and trying to.
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: Get the.
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: Best result.
• 25:23
  Speaker 5: But hopefully this window, this period, before the final international
• 25:28
  Speaker 5: window before the year, he could have into perhaps perform
• 25:34
  Speaker 5: at their optimal and maybe not definitely I don't think,
• 25:38
  Speaker 5: I don't think winning all the matches, but if they
• 25:40
  Speaker 5: could go on, especially in this.
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: Especially maybe hopefully.
• 25:46
  Speaker 5: Go on a good stretch of like three to four wins,
• 25:48
  Speaker 5: hopefully somehow, and in between that madness, it's.
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: Gonna be tough. I think it'd be tough. You know,
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: these big matchups, you know later into.
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: The year, it's before the.
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: International breaks, holidays, all that stuff like it's it's it's
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: a it's a long stretch of games. And but I
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: think one thing that INTA does have to the advantage,
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: and you know we always say it, you know, they
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: have the best, the best team, they were the best
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: team in said yeah, right last season I think they
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: still are one of, if not the best team in
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: city currently. And the depth that we just kept keep
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: on saying this episode, I think is crucial. And I
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: was going to ask you if if it was worse
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: in for for Lataro not starting the way it is,
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: but I guess not if you if you have a
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: guy like like Turam. But you know, I think with strikers,
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: they get hot at certain times, they get cold at others,
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: So I think that's always going to be like an
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: up and down thing. You can't it's hard. It's so
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: hard to be on top of your game and mentally
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: physically for thirty eight you know, uh a thirty eight
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: match season plus other competitions. So I don't know if
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: that's really a worrisome thing. But besides Tuam that you
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: mentioned earlier, before we move on to maybe some Adzuri talk,
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: who else has impressed and who would you like to
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: see more of in terms of upping their performances, you know,
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: besides the Gtkram and I guess a lot of two
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: since we spoke about them already, I.
• 27:09
  Speaker 5: Think, but I love so far has been incredible. Hakan
• 27:12
  Speaker 5: Chu really picked up or he left off last season,
• 27:17
  Speaker 5: uh Bastoni has been remarkable I found. I think definitely
• 27:25
  Speaker 5: one player who would like to see pick it up
• 27:27
  Speaker 5: more is Pavard. I feel like we saw a little
• 27:29
  Speaker 5: bit of decline in him, lack of focus the miland
• 27:32
  Speaker 5: Derby got beat part too easily against Publisic, He's made
• 27:37
  Speaker 5: a couple of defensive errors throughout these first couple of games,
• 27:40
  Speaker 5: and especially coming off last season where he played brilliantly.
• 27:44
  Speaker 5: I think we all know that he has the potential
• 27:47
  Speaker 5: to be one of the best defenders in the set,
• 27:50
  Speaker 5: which is so far this season he hasn't proven that
• 27:52
  Speaker 5: just yet. I think that's one point that needs to
• 27:55
  Speaker 5: sharppen up his game for.
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: Sure, Adrian, Unless you have any any other questions, we
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: could move on.
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: To jud It's it's like around the corner now, so
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: it's time to talk at.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: Least this is this is an area in which we
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: could all agree. And you know, there's no more disagreement.
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: That depends even amongst the Italian fans that we can
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: have some disagreement.
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: So we'll see, yeah, exactly, so, uh you Aphan Nations
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: League Italy. Italy obviously started strong last time out in
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: September wins versus France and Israel. So they they played
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: Belgium on Thursday this time around in Rome, and Israel
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: again in Udinay on Monday. So uh, like I said,
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: good start for Italy six points top of the group.
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: You know, we know.
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: This.
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: The Nations League has a bit of World Cup qualifications
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: implications where the winner of the group they are at
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: least guaranteed a playoff spot in the World Cup qualifying.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: Obviously you don't want that. You want so lily to
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: go through qualifying and and qualify the normal way regardless
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: gives them a security blanket. I mean, how important is
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: this tournament for you, Julian? You know it at least
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: been closer back to back through place finishes, do you
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: you know, do you want to see them win it?
• 29:23
  Speaker 5: I mean I wouldn't mind to see them win it.
• 29:25
  Speaker 5: Apart from the World Cup quality. The fact that I
• 29:29
  Speaker 5: has a little bit of implication of the World Cup
• 29:31
  Speaker 5: qualifying for the World Cup qualifiers the only reason.
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: Why I chair a little bit more. But I think
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: to see them win it, sure, I think somewhat send the.
• 29:41
  Speaker 5: Message to the teams that we could could that we
• 29:43
  Speaker 5: could definitely compete.
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: It's some sort of a competition at the end of
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: at the end of the day.
• 29:48
  Speaker 5: But on the end ND I just feel like it's
• 29:49
  Speaker 5: somewhat that glorified like friendlies. I feel like it was
• 29:52
  Speaker 5: at an extent, but overall, I think it allows us
• 29:56
  Speaker 5: to test out our are some of our younger stars.
• 30:00
  Speaker 5: Perhaps allows Spalletti to call up perhaps unfamiliar names against
• 30:05
  Speaker 5: the top quality opponents. Don't it's it's interesting, but yet
• 30:09
  Speaker 5: that's a thing that it's almost like glorified friendlies and
• 30:12
  Speaker 5: like unnecessary additional games.
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: I'm not sure.
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's listen, it's it's again.
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: That's another thing we've gone back and forth with with
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: the Nation's League. It's you can see both sides, and honestly,
• 30:25
  Speaker 4: I think there's.
• 30:26
  Speaker 7: Like you said, and I think we'll probably.
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: Agree, there's definitely positives, but there's there's also some negatives
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: in these games and stuff. But like you, like you
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: just mentioned Julian in terms of you know, trying out
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: new stars and new players and new systems, like you know,
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: just even the cups that he currently made for this
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: for this window, you know, bringing four new players that
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: again haven't haven't seen the senior call.
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: Up in the past. So it's it's impressive.
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: You know, Like one thing that Spiletti has I think
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: after the Euros and after that disappointment, I think really
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: woke up and kind of you know, wanted to change.
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: Is really the whole focus of of of this competition
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: and these international breaks to to have the ability to change,
• 31:08
  Speaker 4: to to to try to find you know, your your
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: your best eleven. Because one thing that I was saying
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: after the Euros or even during the Euros and after
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: you know we crash out of the Euros is I
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: don't think we had our best eleven on the pitch.
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: You know, every game and every scheme is seemed to
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: be there was something different, there was something to change,
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: something to to to rotate. And it's like if we
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: still can't find our best eleven come a tournament, I
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: think that's a problem. So having Spiletti you know, experiment,
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: uh you know before competitions come to play, I think
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: it's huge. And like I said, this window bringing in
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: four new names and four young names too in certain
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: cases you know, Theo Gabbia, Busily and Daniel Maldini. It's
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: it's it's something that I don't know, I feel like
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: we haven't seen in the past, Like overall, I think
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: we've spoken to in terms of international talk, but what
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: is what's been your takes on Spalletti and and and
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: kind of like his approach and and like how you know,
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: just your overall thoughts on this current Juli.
• 32:15
  Speaker 5: No, And I think definitely the Euros was just like
• 32:19
  Speaker 5: we all know, the Heroes was like flat out, like disappointing,
• 32:23
  Speaker 5: like the way we crashed out, we we barely competed
• 32:25
  Speaker 5: and and so forth. But I think the Nations League,
• 32:28
  Speaker 5: I think that's what we really saw spellettise, like offensive
• 32:31
  Speaker 5: ideas really kick in and we scored remarkable goals. We
• 32:35
  Speaker 5: were actually competing at the highest level. And and I'm
• 32:39
  Speaker 5: just happy that he's finally starting to turn towards the
• 32:42
  Speaker 5: youth like Samuel Ricci somehecch has been phenomenal or not
• 32:46
  Speaker 5: only for you know, but also in the Italian national team.
• 32:49
  Speaker 5: I think that was his first call up against France,
• 32:52
  Speaker 5: so it was very impressive, probably perhaps one of the
• 32:56
  Speaker 5: best debutes in such a lot of time. And uh
• 32:59
  Speaker 5: and now Daniella Maldini and two players who I think
• 33:02
  Speaker 5: totally deserve it and.
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: In between the sticks.
• 33:06
  Speaker 5: So I think I'm just happy that he's finally starting
• 33:09
  Speaker 5: to towards turned towards some of the younger players, because
• 33:12
  Speaker 5: I think at the end of day, we do need
• 33:14
  Speaker 5: some of that the spark and energy that these young
• 33:17
  Speaker 5: prospects could provide on the pitch.
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: Let's look at the roster. So, uh, it was it
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: twenty three players? I'd say, I think it was pretty
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: three players. Yeah, so net's Don Ruma, Vico the Great Glorio,
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: which honestly, I'm surprised this surprised this was the Gregorio's
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: first call up. I really thought. I know at one
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: point he was called up, Like if you told me
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: he was on the Euro team, I would have said, yeah,
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: of course he was, you know, but obviously fantastic starts
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: the season for him, so obviously he deserves it. Defenders
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: De Lorenzo Bystoni, DeMarco Cambia, Califdi Hudnova Gabia and in
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: mid Pelgrini, Foli, Ricci Pasili uh. And up front small
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: small contention of forwards a respiratory Retigi Lorenzo Luca who's
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: replacing Ken and then Daniel Meldini another one of those
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: who was getting his first call up. So third generation
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: of Maldini. Any you know, between both of you, any
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: any surprises, because for me, I think the surprises not
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: having Locatelli who For me, I think he's had a
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: good start to season. This is a guy that you know,
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: I'm I'm not. You know, I don't have that juve
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: bias where uh, you know, I don't think he's the
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: best midfielder in the world and he I know he
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: struggled last season and all that, but I think he's
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: had a good start to the season and he probably
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: deserves to to to be back on this team. Obviously
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: Spletti doesn't see the same way. But you know, it's
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: interesting passili making and I know he scored uh the
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: other day for Roma. You know, maybe just a chance
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: for him to to to get integrated into the squad.
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: Maybe he spiled the season that way. But you know,
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: at the end day, I'm not I'm not I'm not
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: the coach, but I you know, other than that, I
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: don't think there's too many surprises.
• 35:13
  Speaker 7: Uh, I mean before you go doing there.
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: For me, uh, I've been seeing online and I think
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: another midfielder, if you want to say, you know, a
• 35:22
  Speaker 4: guy like local Teller, I think Rovella too. Filazzo has
• 35:27
  Speaker 4: definitely been another name going kind of going under the
• 35:29
  Speaker 4: radar in terms of his his playing recently. One thing
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: that's POETI I remember when he first came in is
• 35:36
  Speaker 4: that he said and that he kind of went with
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: and then kind of veered away with it was was
• 35:40
  Speaker 4: merit based call ups, right, That's kind of been. It
• 35:43
  Speaker 4: was the biggest or one of the bigger things that
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: he that he mentioned in his opening press conferences when
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: he first got appointed merit based call ups. And you know,
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: has he done that for certain players?
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: Yes?
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: Has he done it for others? Maybe, you know, not
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: really so one not another guy that I would probably say, if.
• 36:00
  Speaker 7: You want to say, you know, uh.
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: Surprise is maybe a guy like Rovella.
• 36:04
  Speaker 7: Even him he said he.
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: In a quota that I think I saw online. Is that, like,
• 36:09
  Speaker 4: what else do I have to do to maybe kind
• 36:11
  Speaker 4: of get on right? And but he's like, listen, I
• 36:14
  Speaker 4: I you know, I'm back with the stow that he chooses.
• 36:17
  Speaker 4: He knows what's what's right. And I just have to
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: continue to play my game and uh, to continue to
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: improve to to hopefully get a call up in the future.
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: And listen, these guys are still young, and I think
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: there's still time to to to give to the national team.
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: But if there's another surprise, I would definitely.
• 36:33
  Speaker 7: Say, uh, you know, a.
• 36:34
  Speaker 4: Guy like Rovella for Filazzo. I know, guy's dreams saying Zakani.
• 36:39
  Speaker 4: You know. In terms of our forwards, it's it seems
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: to be another locking uh you know position group, the
• 36:46
  Speaker 4: forwards only having four, it's it was worse and last
• 36:49
  Speaker 4: cap call up West and West.
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: We've got the results, so I guess we can't say
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: too much.
• 36:53
  Speaker 4: But again with only the four team going out and
• 36:56
  Speaker 4: bringing Lorenzo Luca in, which is another excite didn't think
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: to see and if he gets minutes, I would like
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: to see how he performs. But off the top of
• 37:06
  Speaker 4: my head, you know, I can't think of anybody else,
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: but yeah, no, I would probably say Robella.
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: Maybe he's a guy.
• 37:13
  Speaker 4: It's academy, but it's you know, people canna say Politano
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: and you know the Napoli.
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: Fans are gonna say Politano and this and that.
• 37:20
  Speaker 4: But I don't know.
• 37:21
  Speaker 7: I think if there was be a priority.
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: I would keep a guy like Rovela at the top
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: of that priority of of miss missing out this call.
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: But Julie, anybody else come to mind? Uh?
• 37:33
  Speaker 5: No, I think definitely Locate think he's been one of
• 37:36
  Speaker 5: the best materials so far this season. I could have
• 37:39
  Speaker 5: seen him getting selected over tell you need to be honest,
• 37:43
  Speaker 5: who's been quite disappointing so far.
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: And uh, Novella too.
• 37:48
  Speaker 5: I think somebody who could have maybe have have been
• 37:52
  Speaker 5: selected over pasy of you. Not that he's been bad,
• 37:55
  Speaker 5: but I just think Novela has been playing better.
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: In my opinion.
• 37:59
  Speaker 5: Who's been more of a uh we really had an
• 38:02
  Speaker 5: influence on the Lazio so far since the start of
• 38:06
  Speaker 5: the season.
• 38:07
  Speaker 4: And.
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: No, I think he did well.
• 38:11
  Speaker 5: I think Lorenzo Luca deserves to call up for having
• 38:15
  Speaker 5: to replace, having to replace Moiskin. I think he's been
• 38:20
  Speaker 5: very consistent with I'm excited to see him finally get
• 38:25
  Speaker 5: some some minutes.
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: And you know, Idrew brought up the four group only four,
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: but it feels like, you know, just reta Gay alone,
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: the form that he's in, I think he's.
• 38:40
  Speaker 4: Tight with.
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: Through these seven seven games and seven goals. It feels
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: like that's like three, you know, rather one really good
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: at than three average players. Like how excited are you
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: about this way, Julian.
• 38:56
  Speaker 5: No, I'm really excited, especially having just arrived this summer
• 39:00
  Speaker 5: under Casparini. He seems to be trigging it to a
• 39:04
  Speaker 5: complete foward. Somebody could play uh layoff uh with his
• 39:10
  Speaker 5: back behind the back facing the goal. Seems to be
• 39:14
  Speaker 5: a complete player so far this season, so it's really
• 39:16
  Speaker 5: exciting heading into his international I.
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: Agree, and it's where that was.
• 39:21
  Speaker 4: I've been a fan of honestly since he came onto
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: this scene and since we kind of kind of knew
• 39:25
  Speaker 4: a bit.
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: More about him.
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: I think the you know, his his his volley, his
• 39:31
  Speaker 4: willingness to to to play for Italy and and really
• 39:34
  Speaker 4: wanting to do well.
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: I think it is something that you know, we.
• 39:37
  Speaker 4: Can make fun of, but I think it's also something
• 39:39
  Speaker 4: to to look at it and say, listen, he's serious
• 39:41
  Speaker 4: about about, you know, taking on this this role with
• 39:45
  Speaker 4: with Auri. And when he first came on, he already
• 39:48
  Speaker 4: had scored right like he came he got put in
• 39:50
  Speaker 4: like into the fire, and he scored, you know, right away,
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: two goals, right so I.
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: Think one of them being against England if I'm not mistaken.
• 39:57
  Speaker 4: So I don't think he uh he didn't have a
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: euro or two to the way you ride home about
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: I don't think anybody did, but you know, he getting
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: that first taste of a European competition, international competition, making
• 40:11
  Speaker 4: the jump into Sadia at Genua where he had obviously
• 40:14
  Speaker 4: not the greatest of seasons, but had a taste right
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: just to get his feet wet in Sadaiyah. I think
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: it took him. You know, he scored I think only
• 40:22
  Speaker 4: seven goals in twenty nine games. He already has seven
• 40:24
  Speaker 4: now in seven So it's making that jump from General
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: tou at Atlanta, like you were hinting at Julian.
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: I think it's been huge, you know, just overall just.
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: Improving his game, being able to score and getting into
• 40:37
  Speaker 4: moments like he's now playing Champions League two.
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: So I don't know, I'm excited.
• 40:42
  Speaker 4: I've always been excited since since I first you know,
• 40:44
  Speaker 4: set eyes on on this RETEGGI uh player. It just
• 40:48
  Speaker 4: he's been for me. He's been an interesting change. You know,
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: I'm not always the house. I haven't always been the
• 40:55
  Speaker 4: biggest fan of grabbing these these guys from you know,
• 40:58
  Speaker 4: Brazil and argent Tina and you know, okay, now I'm Metalion, right,
• 41:02
  Speaker 4: So it's in the past that was a bit more hesitant,
• 41:05
  Speaker 4: but now I think to be to be something that listen,
• 41:09
  Speaker 4: if if that's going to help this national team at
• 41:11
  Speaker 4: the end of the day, US three on this on
• 41:13
  Speaker 4: this podcast, and every Italian that's listening just wants the
• 41:16
  Speaker 4: Italian national team to do well, right, that's.
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: At the bottom line. UH is for that.
• 41:21
  Speaker 4: And if it's going to take an Itallo Argentina and
• 41:24
  Speaker 4: uh a striker.
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: To do it, what would it be. I'm excited for him.
• 41:29
  Speaker 4: You know. Obviously a guy like Kamaka that's not there
• 41:33
  Speaker 4: due to injury, many people have their opinions on him.
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: It leaves a bit of a void.
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: But at the same time, it leaves an opportunity for
• 41:41
  Speaker 4: a Red Taggi, a Luka, you know, Raspadori to to
• 41:45
  Speaker 4: step up his game, if it be another guy like
• 41:48
  Speaker 4: Keen uh To to rejuvenate himself too, because even him,
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: he has rejuvenated himself at the Fieldentina.
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: So yeah, I don't know.
• 41:56
  Speaker 4: And honestly, not only that, I think I don't know
• 41:59
  Speaker 4: if you can agreed, Tom, but I.
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: Feel like, not only do we get.
• 42:04
  Speaker 4: Scoring chances and goals from our forwards, not in big numbers,
• 42:08
  Speaker 4: but if we get scoring chances with them, we're also
• 42:11
  Speaker 4: against scoring chances with our mids, are our defenders are
• 42:14
  Speaker 4: really are really helping in the attack as well. So yeah,
• 42:18
  Speaker 4: I think it's it's it's it's exciting. But how do
• 42:21
  Speaker 4: you you know?
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: How do you how how have you.
• 42:24
  Speaker 4: Seen the lineup and and in terms of the formation
• 42:27
  Speaker 4: this this three five two or this three four two one, like,
• 42:30
  Speaker 4: is that something that has impressed you with this this
• 42:33
  Speaker 4: under Spalletti or is because he's he's really seeming to
• 42:37
  Speaker 4: want to stick to that formation and kind of adapt
• 42:40
  Speaker 4: and and see how this players can do. And listen,
• 42:42
  Speaker 4: you're beating France in Nations League matches, I mean, or
• 42:45
  Speaker 4: just any match. It's it's a big thing. So just
• 42:48
  Speaker 4: your thoughts on maybe the formation and the setup.
• 42:51
  Speaker 5: For this for this Yeah, No, definitely, the the three
• 42:54
  Speaker 5: in the back provides the I think with the most
• 42:58
  Speaker 5: stability and and his philosophy stability and his philosophy is
• 43:04
  Speaker 5: a completely different thing. I think he's still able to
• 43:07
  Speaker 5: implement his attacking minded philosophy with that three five to
• 43:11
  Speaker 5: giving the AZI the stability. And we've seen it against
• 43:14
  Speaker 5: France that the combinations on the line along the line
• 43:20
  Speaker 5: along the using the wig, the wing backs, the marcou
• 43:25
  Speaker 5: just seeing everybody play like a well oiled machine. Being
• 43:29
  Speaker 5: involved in the final third is creating chances up top.
• 43:34
  Speaker 5: It was very fluid and well executed for sure. So
• 43:37
  Speaker 5: I think this is the Spilette. I think we were
• 43:40
  Speaker 5: hoping uh the side and this is the A team
• 43:44
  Speaker 5: and the Speletti we were hoping to see at the
• 43:47
  Speaker 5: Euros somewhat reminiscent and the ideas that he brought in
• 43:53
  Speaker 5: the when he was coaching Annapoli in that the title
• 43:56
  Speaker 5: winning season.
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: Absolutely and looking towards these two games, obviously Belgium tough opponent,
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: Israel not so much. But I mean, what do you
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: expect from what do you expect and what do you
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: want to see in these two games in the Nations League.
• 44:13
  Speaker 5: I think we can go six. I think we can
• 44:16
  Speaker 5: win both games. To be honest, I feel like Belgium
• 44:19
  Speaker 5: is pretty much on the on the decline, and I
• 44:22
  Speaker 5: mean Israel, we should be able to to beat them.
• 44:27
  Speaker 5: Not to be disrespectful, but I think we have way
• 44:30
  Speaker 5: more quality competitve Israel.
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: No, I agree. I think for me it's a must.
• 44:36
  Speaker 4: N I don't know about you, But for me, it's
• 44:37
  Speaker 4: a it's a must two out of two. Uh, we
• 44:40
  Speaker 4: gotta we gotta sweep it like we did last window.
• 44:43
  Speaker 4: It's a must because if we want to again, if
• 44:45
  Speaker 4: we want to be serious and if we want to
• 44:47
  Speaker 4: really improve, we need to dominate. We haven't seen Italy
• 44:51
  Speaker 4: like truly dominate in terms of ily just possession in
• 44:54
  Speaker 4: the midfield battle and all.
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: That, but like the score line as well.
• 44:57
  Speaker 4: Uh, you know, seeing all the goals that were scored
• 45:00
  Speaker 4: in the first window and as of late, was but
• 45:02
  Speaker 4: something that was like wow, fuck, you know Away can
• 45:05
  Speaker 4: actually score Like it's you know, our biggest thing on
• 45:09
  Speaker 4: this show and pretty much anybody that covers Italian soccer
• 45:13
  Speaker 4: in general. I mean the number nine position, who's gonna
• 45:16
  Speaker 4: score the goals? How are we gonna get these goals scored?
• 45:18
  Speaker 4: But you know, if it if it takes if it
• 45:21
  Speaker 4: takes a forward, if it takes a midfield er, if
• 45:23
  Speaker 4: it takes a defender, as long as that ball goes
• 45:25
  Speaker 4: in the back of the ned, I don't care how
• 45:27
  Speaker 4: it happens.
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: It needs to It just needs to happen, right, So no,
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: I think it's two for two for me.
• 45:34
  Speaker 4: Seeing Tonali come back and the last window was huge
• 45:36
  Speaker 4: because for me, Julian, the games are won and lost
• 45:39
  Speaker 4: in the midfield, and you know, he really.
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: Him alongside a guy you mentioned in RICHI, uh, we're
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: really you know, influential in these games.
• 45:48
  Speaker 4: So you know, I'm guessing that's gonna kind of be
• 45:51
  Speaker 4: the same midfield duo if I'm not mistaken, because Bara
• 45:55
  Speaker 4: is not there once again, So getting new guys when
• 45:59
  Speaker 4: new Uper two is without your Superstar and Barrella, there
• 46:02
  Speaker 4: is is something to work out for. But yeah, in
• 46:05
  Speaker 4: terms of what I want to see is again that
• 46:07
  Speaker 4: that growth with that defense, with the defense, like the
• 46:09
  Speaker 4: trio of defenders. You know, I don't know who it's
• 46:12
  Speaker 4: gonna be, uh come come game day, but a guy
• 46:15
  Speaker 4: that color is really sprouted, you know, like did sprout right. Uh,
• 46:22
  Speaker 4: he made that jump to Arsenal and he's kind of
• 46:24
  Speaker 4: making the most of it and he's uh, he's he's
• 46:26
  Speaker 4: really been an interesting player and a player that I've
• 46:29
  Speaker 4: I've liked to watch as well.
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: You know, if go.
• 46:37
  Speaker 4: Gets if Gatia gets some walks, it would be nice
• 46:39
  Speaker 4: to I don't know if he will, but you know
• 46:42
  Speaker 4: we saw gott the uh you know, in past call
• 46:45
  Speaker 4: ops you didn't get a color. But so I just
• 46:48
  Speaker 4: want to see again continuous.
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: Improvement and and uh, you know.
• 46:54
  Speaker 4: Cohesiveness and and really gelling that group together because our
• 46:58
  Speaker 4: biggest thing. And I don't want to always go back
• 46:59
  Speaker 4: to when we won the euro but one thing that
• 47:02
  Speaker 4: I think should be remembered from there, not only that
• 47:05
  Speaker 4: we won, but what.
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: Helped us win. I think we didn't always have the
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: best players on the pitch, but it really was the group.
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: It really was that that really pushed us over the edge.
• 47:13
  Speaker 4: And they really fought for each other, worked for each other,
• 47:15
  Speaker 4: and played for each other.
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: So if we can kind of get that, we're back
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: to that.
• 47:21
  Speaker 4: In terms of with this new group, I think we
• 47:23
  Speaker 4: can we can accomplish great things.
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: And uh it.
• 47:26
  Speaker 4: Starts Thursday against against Belgium at the Olympical's two for.
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: Me, two for two.
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you have to, you have to obviously, you know,
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: it kind of feels like the last break where obviously
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: the last one Italy went to France and you know
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: they had a game against Israel as well, and going
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: into that, it's like, you know, we we said on
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: the podcast, Jenny, I feel Jenny was the most cynical
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: one I think he said, uh, you know that something
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: a lot of draw and you know, me and Adrew
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: were saying drawing a win would be good, and at
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: the end it was two wins. But you know, it
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: helps that both these games are at home in Rome
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: where they have success. You know, you think back those
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: three games in the Euros bringing it back to the
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: against Belgium. But uh, you know, it is interesting because
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: it feels like every time we play Belgium, there's always
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: those city connections, right, you know, you think of Lukaku,
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: especially him him too, is his hot start to the season.
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I guess he got the call up
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: with the bel Belgium I don't I don't know who
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: they called up. But but yeah, and again Israel game
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: and you toy, that's for me, that's absolutely must win.
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: Definitely more than anything related to the Belgium game. Belgium
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: game is for me. I like that they're playing good competition.
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: You know, they played France, they're playing Belgium now, I
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: like that it is a good competition. So uh, it'll
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: do the some good with that, but we'll see. Ag
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: Did you have any other questions for Julian in.
• 49:11
  Speaker 4: Terms of the I mean no, I mean I think
• 49:15
  Speaker 4: we kind of covered majority of it. I don't know
• 49:19
  Speaker 4: trying I'm trying to trying to think, because you know,
• 49:22
  Speaker 4: we mentioned the call ups.
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: I think we mentioned who, Like I guess who who
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: in these games?
• 49:30
  Speaker 4: Like not only like what do you want to see?
• 49:31
  Speaker 4: Obviously the results we want to results, but I guess
• 49:33
  Speaker 4: who do you want to see step up? Maybe Julian
• 49:36
  Speaker 4: in terms of like we're not going to know who's
• 49:38
  Speaker 4: going to be on the until he puts out until
• 49:41
  Speaker 4: it puts out the lineups, but who do you want
• 49:43
  Speaker 4: to maybe see step up? And and and you know
• 49:45
  Speaker 4: who maybe didn't perform in last window that could should
• 49:49
  Speaker 4: step up if he wants to really stick on this
• 49:51
  Speaker 4: on on this national team side.
• 49:56
  Speaker 3: Uh, that's a tough one think overall.
• 50:02
  Speaker 5: I think definitely hopefully, I think definitely hopefully Lasori you
• 50:07
  Speaker 5: could somewhat find some form in this international window.
• 50:12
  Speaker 3: He's had quite an up and down period that Napoli.
• 50:16
  Speaker 5: Hopefully he did reignite himself, reduvenate himself in this international
• 50:20
  Speaker 5: windows somehow.
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 50:23
  Speaker 5: One player perhaps I'm looking forward to seeing is Daniella Maldini.
• 50:26
  Speaker 5: I think he has that the way he carries the
• 50:29
  Speaker 5: ball floor.
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: He has that that ability to.
• 50:31
  Speaker 5: Shift in the third year instantaneously is really interesting, strong
• 50:35
  Speaker 5: technical ability, very creative, someone who's who I think it's
• 50:39
  Speaker 5: really going to help that midfield for sure. Yeah, no,
• 50:42
  Speaker 5: I agree, and even even why he's very versatile, so
• 50:46
  Speaker 5: it will be interesting.
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: Agreed. And you know one other player I would want
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: I was going to throw in there if you were
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: going to mention this again maybe not his fault, kind
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: of out of position, but you know, di Oorenzo even
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: last watch Window Shaky we spoke on the show.
• 51:00
  Speaker 4: But again, not going to crucify the guy. Obviously he's
• 51:04
  Speaker 4: he's Spaghetti's boy. Uh, you know when winning Anapui together
• 51:08
  Speaker 4: is obviously gonna always be in his heart. So again
• 51:11
  Speaker 4: I think he deserves the call because he has, you know,
• 51:13
  Speaker 4: turned around his game after you know, the the shaky
• 51:18
  Speaker 4: you know, the shaky summer. If he's is he common,
• 51:20
  Speaker 4: is he going, is he staying on a he's he's
• 51:22
  Speaker 4: definitely solidified his spot.
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: And but again he doesn't for me, he doesn't need
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: to be a starter.
• 51:27
  Speaker 4: I think he can even come off the bench and
• 51:29
  Speaker 4: and you know, working that way if he if he doesn't,
• 51:32
  Speaker 4: you know, start the game. But yeah, going to Maldinia,
• 51:36
  Speaker 4: Daniel Maldin. I think that's another name that even Spoetti
• 51:38
  Speaker 4: said had a quote about him. You know, it's it's
• 51:40
  Speaker 4: a player that we're missing in this national team that
• 51:43
  Speaker 4: that creative, that creative juice in a player.
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: So listen, this is three generations of Maldinia in the
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: national team level. It's just something incredible.
• 51:54
  Speaker 4: We already saw it in terms of club play and
• 51:57
  Speaker 4: now we're seeing it on the international stage as well.
• 51:59
  Speaker 4: So again, just you know, congrats to him too, because
• 52:02
  Speaker 4: I think he he definitely worked because that's a that's
• 52:05
  Speaker 4: a tough that's a tough name to carry on your back.
• 52:08
  Speaker 4: It weighs a lot right in terms of Italian soccer,
• 52:11
  Speaker 4: So to be able to again, I don't he will
• 52:15
  Speaker 4: never reach the heights of his father and his grandfather.
• 52:18
  Speaker 4: I don't think hopefully, but I don't think. But if
• 52:21
  Speaker 4: he can carve out his own, his own little legacy,
• 52:24
  Speaker 4: uh you know uh in his career and with that
• 52:27
  Speaker 4: last name, I think that's the least we can ask
• 52:30
  Speaker 4: for as fans. So you know, what he's been able
• 52:34
  Speaker 4: to do, A Mansa has been has been really interesting.
• 52:37
  Speaker 4: It's it's been really cool to to watch, uh, something
• 52:40
  Speaker 4: that I didn't expect because a Milan like Again, he
• 52:44
  Speaker 4: didn't get the opportunity that he should have maybe, but
• 52:48
  Speaker 4: I think he just needed a place to go to
• 52:51
  Speaker 4: really show off these qualities that if it wasn't for
• 52:55
  Speaker 4: these this move, I don't think we would have really
• 52:57
  Speaker 4: seen and I don't think that call up to the
• 52:59
  Speaker 4: national team would have came. Maybe definitely wouldn't gonna come now.
• 53:02
  Speaker 4: I don't know if we would come down in the future,
• 53:04
  Speaker 4: but it was gonna maybe take some time for him
• 53:06
  Speaker 4: to develop, you know, this confidence and this type of play.
• 53:09
  Speaker 4: So uh, you know, shout out to him kudos to
• 53:12
  Speaker 4: get a call up. And if there's one merit based
• 53:15
  Speaker 4: call up, I think definitely is in the list of
• 53:17
  Speaker 4: merit based callups. That's what he made for for this window.
• 53:20
  Speaker 4: So I'm interesting to see if he does get onto
• 53:24
  Speaker 4: the onto the pitch in any of these in any
• 53:28
  Speaker 4: of these games. If he doesn't, again, I think he
• 53:31
  Speaker 4: just needs to continue to work and hopefully get back
• 53:34
  Speaker 4: there again. One other thing that again it's been a
• 53:38
  Speaker 4: bit of a touchy subject, especially on this show, that
• 53:41
  Speaker 4: just came to mind in terms of the Azuri, Julian
• 53:45
  Speaker 4: Kieza not there right.
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: It's a It's a player that we speak about a
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: lot on this show.
• 53:50
  Speaker 4: We all have our.
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: Different opinions about Kieza.
• 53:53
  Speaker 4: Obviously, his situation currently isn't the situation that we thought
• 53:59
  Speaker 4: was gonna happen.
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: I mean, once he came to U of A, we
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: thought he.
• 54:02
  Speaker 4: Would continue there for for a longer period of time
• 54:05
  Speaker 4: and elevate.
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: His game, whatever the case may be.
• 54:08
  Speaker 4: But currently at Liverpool on that transfer from Juvia to Liverpool,
• 54:13
  Speaker 4: didn't get the recent call ups in the nation's league matches.
• 54:18
  Speaker 4: Is this something that worries you at all, Julian, because
• 54:22
  Speaker 4: this is a player that I personally think that I'll
• 54:24
  Speaker 4: say before you go, is still has the quality to
• 54:28
  Speaker 4: perform at the international level and I think he still
• 54:31
  Speaker 4: has something to give to this national team. If it
• 54:34
  Speaker 4: be him going to Liverpool to to prove that to
• 54:37
  Speaker 4: other people, I don't know, but I still think he
• 54:41
  Speaker 4: has a There's a spot that he needs to earn, obviously.
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: But there's still a spot if he earns it that
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: on this national team.
• 54:48
  Speaker 4: Just your overall thoughts on Kea's moved maybe to Liverpool
• 54:51
  Speaker 4: and him not getting called up again for this international break.
• 55:00
  Speaker 5: Well, I think given that he hasn't been playing much,
• 55:03
  Speaker 5: I can't understand why he wasn't selected, Like it's just
• 55:07
  Speaker 5: hard to select a player who hasn't been having much
• 55:10
  Speaker 5: playing time, not really building momentum or form for himself.
• 55:14
  Speaker 5: But no, I think definitely if he could hit the
• 55:17
  Speaker 5: ground running again at Liverpool somehow, I think he's definitely
• 55:22
  Speaker 5: somebody that we could use in his ability to take
• 55:25
  Speaker 5: on dependence one v one and create the goalscoring scenarios
• 55:29
  Speaker 5: out of nothing, because you need you need those type
• 55:31
  Speaker 5: of players, especially when other teams are playing in a
• 55:34
  Speaker 5: low block and it's hard to break them down. You
• 55:38
  Speaker 5: need some of those players with the individual brilliants who
• 55:40
  Speaker 5: are fearless and who could who are quite ruthless in
• 55:43
  Speaker 5: the final third. And he's definitely one of them when
• 55:45
  Speaker 5: he's at his best. But I think if he could
• 55:49
  Speaker 5: find his form, start getting playing time and produce produce
• 55:53
  Speaker 5: numbers for Liverpool, I think definitely he could would definitely
• 55:58
  Speaker 5: deserve a spot for sure. I just think this move
• 56:01
  Speaker 5: to Liverpool is really one of his last chances perhaps
• 56:04
  Speaker 5: to really prove himself at a top club.
• 56:07
  Speaker 3: For sure. I feel like it's kind of a make
• 56:09
  Speaker 3: it to break it moment.
• 56:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: I mean you talked about him not playing. Listen, listen
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: to his stats. So he made his Liverpool debut Stember
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: seventeenth versus Milan and played one minute. Played September twenty
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: first versus Bournemouth eighteen minutes. September twenty fifth played in
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: the EFL Cup fifty nine minutes against West Ham. Got
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: an assist in that one, you know, almost an assist
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: by accident. I don't know if you had a chance
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: to see that highlight bicycle assist. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: then September twenty eighth versus Wolves on the bench, October
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: second in the Champions League Bologna not in the squad.
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: October fifth versus Crystal Palace, not in the squad. So
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: this is exactly what we thought would happen. He just
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: doesn't get enough playing time going to Liverpool, obviously, you know,
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: he needs to prove that he deserves playing time. But
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: it's not a good luck. It's not a good luck whatever.
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: We'll we'll, we'll see. We we haven't seen the last
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: of cases with the with the national team, but it's
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: gonna be a while. He's gonna have to earn his
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: spot back. But Julian, before we go, while we're on
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: the topic of this disappointing player, I want to ask
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: you give me your most disappointing player team so far
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: in the city and your most surprising player or team
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: so far in the city. I know I'm kind of
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: putting you on the spot with that one, but but
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: and that's all he does. Quaz, kind of a fun
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: topic to go before before we end the episode.
• 57:51
  Speaker 3: Okay, so.
• 57:54
  Speaker 5: Most impressive, most impressive team so far, I would give
• 57:58
  Speaker 5: it to I think it was pretty amazing how they
• 58:01
  Speaker 5: they have they only they just lost their first game
• 58:03
  Speaker 5: against this week's I think that was very impressive. Most
• 58:09
  Speaker 5: impressive player. I give it to better teg We because
• 58:14
  Speaker 5: I didn't nobody. I don't think anybody expected to score
• 58:16
  Speaker 5: seven goals in nine games, especially just moving to just
• 58:20
  Speaker 5: making that big move, that big jump from Bologna to
• 58:23
  Speaker 5: Atlanta this summer, having to service the vice for I've
• 58:31
  Speaker 5: ruled out for the majority of the season. Very impressive
• 58:34
  Speaker 5: to to fill those shoes. Most disappointed team.
• 58:43
  Speaker 3: Probably I would give it.
• 58:45
  Speaker 5: Honestly, I'll give it to I would give it to
• 58:47
  Speaker 5: Roma because I think like maybe not the most appointing
• 58:51
  Speaker 5: team overall, but I think like in terms of expectation,
• 58:55
  Speaker 5: like they've barely lived up to the hype and the
• 58:57
  Speaker 5: expectation given that they spent so much money on their
• 58:59
  Speaker 5: own where it's they haven't. They've been struggling to produce,
• 59:03
  Speaker 5: to produce goals, and the results have clearly not been
• 59:07
  Speaker 5: been there. So I give it to Roma in terms
• 59:11
  Speaker 5: of one of the most disappointing teams one team for
• 59:14
  Speaker 5: me that's been the disappointing and disappointing player. Uh that's
• 59:22
  Speaker 5: tough too.
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: It's okay, I said most disappointing player or team. You
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: didn't have to the bonus that you get both, Yeah, exactly.
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: I don't know if you have anyone to think because
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: because I have for both for the disappointing player, uh
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: more team, most surprising team or most impressive team, most disappointing.
• 59:45
  Speaker 4: Team another in terms of in terms of impressive I think, Uh,
• 59:50
  Speaker 4: we've spoken about it before. It's going to be a
• 59:52
  Speaker 4: bit of a you know, saying the same thing. But
• 59:55
  Speaker 4: you know, for me, it's gonna be tough now after
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 4: the loss now of their their focal point up top.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 4: But I've just liked what Vanoli has been doing to
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 4: start off the season really, uh, you know, changing the
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 4: mentality of Torino. You know, I think they were stuck
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 4: in that you each mentality of how to play, how
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 4: to play, culture, how to how to you know, perform
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 4: and and all that. So one thing that he's brought
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 4: is that moment of a modern game and and and
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 4: kind of new ideas. So definitely an impressive thing. But
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 4: the mput shot was great as well. Disappointing I think, yeah,
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 4: I think yeah, Roma, like Roma already with a change
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 4: of coach, change of coach already now, and then you
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 4: see other news that they might sock ur just to
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 4: go back to that all feel like for me, like
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 4: that's that's like solo mentality, a moment Oney.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: Twelve, like you know what I mean, It's crazy.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 4: So for me, like I know, some fans say like, oh, yeah,
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 4: we'll bring back did Asti, but why you're gonna why
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 4: are you gonna make that move to get rid of
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 4: him just to bring them.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: Back in three weeks? Like for me, yeah, I just
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: I think that's been the disappointment, just in terms of
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: how they start off the season.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 4: They had when he first came in, they had those
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 4: two games of brilliance, but since then it's been kind
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 4: of coasting and kind of not being up to par.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 4: So I think the Roman shots is a is a
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 4: good one. I know in terms of player, a lot
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 4: of people are gonna say rough l al. I think
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 4: that's uh, it's definitely a hot topic to say it's uh,
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 4: it's it's it's definitely I think merited in terms of
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 4: In terms of the criticism, I think sometimes it goes
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 4: overboard because uh, I'm not saying it because I am
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 4: a melon fan to say that I'm trying to keep
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 4: my on biased.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: But if you shipped you ship, will say it's your ship.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 4: But I think, uh, you know, when he's not always
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 4: scoring but he's providing in other areas, I think people
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 4: over that sometimes. So listen, he's not he's not the
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 4: number nine that he plays on the wing if you know,
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 4: so he's not going to score every game.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: But you know, does he deserve the criticism? Absolutely?
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 4: Does it go overboard sometimes? I do think so sometimes yes.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 4: But one player on me, one that I just wanted
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 4: to continue to shut out is is definitely Christian Pulisicchy.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 4: I think one of the better players. Uh you know,
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 4: and said, yeah, I think he's right behind uhuram and
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 4: and the Taggie In terms of goals. He has five
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 4: goals on the season for again a winger. It's impressive,
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 4: you know, really stepping up his game. I think he
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 4: needs to grow a pair of balls because he's the
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 4: fucking penalty taker. Don't let these other guys bow you
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 4: off the ball. Take that penalty. But besides that, I
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 4: think he's he's all in business. He the sky is
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 4: the limit for at which I'm really impressed.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: With and I really want to see him continue to
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 2: uh to to perform at a high level.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 4: But yeah, Nick, I know you said you got a
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 4: flurry of name, so I think the four is yours
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 4: for you.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: Well, I'm gonna it's gonna be straightforward. Most impressive is
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: Atalanta's offense. Most disappointing is Atalanta's defense. I'm gonna put
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: it that way. This is a team that you know,
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: they just won the Europa League. They finished if they
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: finished fourth or fifth last season, and they come out
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: and they have three losses already on the season, despite
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: scoring most goals tighter enter in the league. So there
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: are sixteen goals for thirteen goals against, which is really
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: is just crazy. It's just crazy. And you know, Julie,
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: you talk about Inter's disappointing defense, they have nine goals against.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: You know, it's still it looks like it's still in
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: the bottom half of the league, kind of mid table,
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: you know, like teams like Napoli A five you a
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: one goal against, U Roma Roma five goals against, Empley
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: four goals against. So those are the teams ahead. But yeah,
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: for me Atalanta, the fact that until this week they
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: were you know, in place, is disappointing. I know it's
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: still early in the season, but now they're they're in eighth,
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: so they still got a lot of long way to go.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: And I'm impressed so far with their Champions League results
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: so far, uh zero zero versus Arsenal and then they
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: be checked our three three nothings. So after match A
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: two there in eleventh, eleventh place, so on four points
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: like Inters. So uh, you know, I'm gonna say that,
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: I'm also gonna give a little bit of a disappointing
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: to do so. And I know he has five goals
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: in the city, I think two more in the Champions League. Obviously,
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: was huge last week in the Champions League game. But
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: maybe it's recency biased, but that that miss versus cality
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: that for me cost the game. As soon as I
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: saw I miss that, I said, you know what, we're
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: gonna be talking about this on Twitter after and that's
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: exactly for something that good, and that's exactly what happened.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: I don't put away your chances, you're gonna not win
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: the game. So seven million dollars for a striker to
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: only score penalties, we need better.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 2: But another interesting player that's been.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, give us say how taken it away? Because he
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: scored the goal in the Champions League and then got
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: the red card in the city.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 4: So whatever, take he's he's even, he's he's on part Yeah,
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 4: exactly exactly.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: But Julian, great chat with you. Honestly, you know your
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: you know your call show. We'll have to have you
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: on again.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 2: But not every two years though, no exactly.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 4: Listen, we said it here, so hopefully it's not every
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 4: two years for sure, especially like we said that, you're
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 4: in our own, our own backyard here in Montreal, so
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 4: uh yeah, like Nick was saying, and I know Johnny
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 4: couldn't be here tonight, but he sends us well wishes
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 4: to you as well and thank you for coming on.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 4: We really do appreciate your time. And again before we
• 1:05:43
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• 1:05:46
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