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Emotional Healing and Authentic Living with MAJOR. · Just Heal with Dr Jay

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  Speaker 1: It feaks to the plan. This Charlamagne God here.
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  Speaker 2: Before we get into today's episode, we've got to celebrate
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  Speaker 2: the Black Effect Podcast Network. It's turning five years old, man,
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  Speaker 2: five years of powerful voices, unforgettable moments in the community
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  Speaker 2: that keeps growing.
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  Speaker 1: This is the power of the platform. Now let's get
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  Speaker 1: into it. Welcome to Just Heal with Doctor J, a
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  Speaker 1: production of the Black Effect Podcast Network and iHeartRadio. Welcome
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  Speaker 1: back to another episode Just Heal with Doctor J and
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  Speaker 1: I am your host, Doctor J. Listen. If you haven't
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  Speaker 1: subscribed yet, click that link and subscribe and join our
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  Speaker 1: healing community. We have so many great things planned, so
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  Speaker 1: many great things that we want to invest into the
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  Speaker 1: healing community. Coming soon, I'm going to be doing courses.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to be doing a live once a month,
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  Speaker 1: pouring into the individuals that are wanting to continue their
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  Speaker 1: healing journey. And as I often say, healing is a
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  Speaker 1: journey and wholeness is the destination. But I don't want
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  Speaker 1: to take up too much of your time because I
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  Speaker 1: got another guest that's back for a second time. Oh
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  Speaker 1: you gonna put that on Yes, I'm gonna put that
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  Speaker 1: on camera.
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  Speaker 3: Back for a second time unplaying because for some kind
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  Speaker 3: of way, CJ don't know, and I'm not doing CJ
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  Speaker 3: on the bro't y'all know that's my right hand man
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  Speaker 3: for CJ. CJ called me and said, Bro, something happened
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  Speaker 3: to Major's episode. We got the audio, Bro, but we
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  Speaker 3: don't have the visual. So here we are again, back
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  Speaker 3: in La recording our brother, gospel award winning artist, you
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  Speaker 3: know him, for the most played wedding song of all times,
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  Speaker 3: beyond Riven in the Sky.
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  Speaker 1: This is why I love you. Anyway, I know Stevie
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  Speaker 1: wonder is his boy, is his mentor? Is his dude?
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  Speaker 1: And Stevie, listen, I know you can hear me, but
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  Speaker 1: I want you pay attention to what I'm saying. So
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  Speaker 1: we respect you, Stevie. But Major do has the top
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  Speaker 1: wedding song. Well, Stevie, to be fair, Uncle Stevie did
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  Speaker 1: say I believe this would be the wedding love song
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  Speaker 1: for years to come, and it is. He gave me
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  Speaker 1: his blessing and Ribbing in the Sky clearly set the
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  Speaker 1: mark absolutely, And so why I love you is just
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  Speaker 1: trying to anyway, stop being humble. Anyway, Stevie, we reverew you,
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  Speaker 1: We respect you. But right now, Major is the leading
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  Speaker 1: wedding song. This is why I love you anyway. Welcome
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  Speaker 1: to the healing community. My brother, my friend, and this
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  Speaker 1: dude is just I don't have anything else to say.
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  Speaker 1: We we are like dumb and dumber. I guess I'll
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  Speaker 1: be dumb. Gotta be dumb, ladies and gentlemen. His brother
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  Speaker 1: is here, the platinum soul singer, my mama's favorite hope dealer. Huh, mister,
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  Speaker 1: this is why I love you and that new nude.
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  Speaker 1: I set a prayer for you. We hear him, brother,
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  Speaker 1: but the ain't for having me again. But you ain't
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  Speaker 1: say no prayer for me. I did, Actually, I actually
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  Speaker 1: do pray for you. You know that card. Let's start
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  Speaker 1: this thing, so listen, we're back a second time again.
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  Speaker 1: Y'all See the type of relationship me a Major had.
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  Speaker 1: It is constant batter It is constant back and forth.
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  Speaker 1: It is a brotherhood and a friendship that I greatly
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  Speaker 1: appreciate that we have. So before we get into it,
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  Speaker 1: I don't even talk about the project. I love to
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  Speaker 1: open up every episode, which is, how are you feeling?
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  Speaker 1: If you could just locate your feelings in this moment?
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  Speaker 1: Who to be honest. Today I am grateful but also overwhelmed.
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  Speaker 1: I'm preparing for a tour. I'm you know, thinking of
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  Speaker 1: all the different areas that I can strengthen as it
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  Speaker 1: relates to my career. I'm grateful for my wife. I'm
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  Speaker 1: grateful for my life. I'm grateful for the many blessings
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  Speaker 1: that have finally shown up in this season. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I pray for you when number one since the last
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  Speaker 1: time we talked, and it got me a Stellar nomination
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  Speaker 1: our Performingly Stellar Awards, and it's a lot of really
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  Speaker 1: cool stuff happening. But I think I'm a bit overwhelmed
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  Speaker 1: with a lot that is happening and wanting to show
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  Speaker 1: up well for all of it. So I'm gonna have
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  Speaker 1: to start, you know, you know, living the hope that
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  Speaker 1: I'm giving. You feel me that pace? Oh now you
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  Speaker 1: tap it into my book? Yeah, absolutely, sewing pace. I
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  Speaker 1: love that you were able to identify the oxymoranity or
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  Speaker 1: I will say, or I would like to say, the
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  Speaker 1: paradoxical of just life. Yeah, you know, I'm excited about something,
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  Speaker 1: but I'm also concerned because a sense of overwhelming or
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  Speaker 1: overwhelming it's just really a sense of concern right where
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  Speaker 1: it's like, man, am I ready? Do I have what
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  Speaker 1: it takes? Am I enough? I don't think it's the
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  Speaker 1: same thing as some would say that it could be
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  Speaker 1: synonymous to imposter syndrome, But I think the overwhelmness, overwhelming
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  Speaker 1: feeling that you are sensing is really like, man, a
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  Speaker 1: lot is happening at one time. Yeah, I definitely know
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  Speaker 1: specific to right now. That's the thing, like, am I ready?
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  Speaker 1: You know? Am I giving enough to meet the need
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  Speaker 1: before I arrive at it? I have wrestled with imposter syndrome,
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  Speaker 1: believe it or not, as bold as I move, I
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  Speaker 1: have wrestled with imposter syndrome. And I think it's fair
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  Speaker 1: to speak to that duality of life because that's literally
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  Speaker 1: what life is. And like you said, you've mentioned in
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  Speaker 1: your book. In my new project, The Hope Dealer Sessions,
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  Speaker 1: I talk about that life is hope and healy, pain
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  Speaker 1: and purpose, trial and triumph. You know, it's all of it.
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  Speaker 1: It's storm and rain. But the gift of life is
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  Speaker 1: that we're giving the opportunity to live, do all of it,
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  Speaker 1: and still show up fully in all of it. It
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  Speaker 1: may not be perfection, but show up nonetheless. He's graced
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  Speaker 1: us the ability to weather it all. So, yeah, that's
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  Speaker 1: where I'm at right now. No, And I like how
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  Speaker 1: you expounded on that because I think when we think
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  Speaker 1: about the duality of life, we often see it from
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  Speaker 1: the vantage point letting go of something while holding on
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  Speaker 1: to something else, right, And I think simultaneously, we're usually
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  Speaker 1: trying to do them together. And what I like to
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  Speaker 1: do is I have to do one and then allow
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  Speaker 1: the other to follow. Yeah, and that's not saying that
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  Speaker 1: they both don't coexist and they both are not held
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  Speaker 1: in the same space because on one end, I know
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  Speaker 1: exactly what you're feeling because I'm feeling the same way.
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  Speaker 1: There are so many opportunities right now, man, that are
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  Speaker 1: coming my way. There are so many things that I'm
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  Speaker 1: having to read through, navigate, plan, prepare, then also focus
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  Speaker 1: on being present in all of it. So I understand
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  Speaker 1: that challenge as well. But what I'm learning major is
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  Speaker 1: plan over here and then step back into this and
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  Speaker 1: say where can I let go? Because what we're trying
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  Speaker 1: to do and what caused us to feel overwhelming, is
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  Speaker 1: that is carrying off. It's carried all at the same time.
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  Speaker 1: So as you are processing that now and I'm watching
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  Speaker 1: your brain turn. What could you pick up now? And
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  Speaker 1: then what could you lay down? I know that I'm
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  Speaker 1: kind of I wrestled. Okay, So my journey as a
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  Speaker 1: recording artist has been different than the way I planned
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  Speaker 1: it out. God is hilarious. But I've experienced some amazing
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  Speaker 1: highs and amazing wins in my journey, but the way
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  Speaker 1: that things have unfolded are different. So I've had to
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  Speaker 1: take on some responsibilities as an independent artist who's mama
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  Speaker 1: named of major that doesn't always allow me to fully
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  Speaker 1: trust the team or the people that are there in
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  Speaker 1: place to help support me, to fully trust that they're
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  Speaker 1: going to execute at the level of my expectations. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: my expectations and my reputation of excellent output. I operate
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  Speaker 1: at high level quality only that's how I was raised.
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  Speaker 1: If it's going to be done, it's got to be right,
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  Speaker 1: you know. And so yeah, and so so I think
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  Speaker 1: when you ask, like what can I let go up?
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  Speaker 1: I think maybe just trusting that if I gave the
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  Speaker 1: re If I gave the I may clear the ask
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  Speaker 1: or the need or the want, they will be handled.
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  Speaker 1: It's the scheduling and stuff is going to be handled
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  Speaker 1: I've just been let down a lot of times. I
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  Speaker 1: think it's PTSD in a way, it is who Oh listen, brother,
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  Speaker 1: when I tell you I overstand, overstand, I overstand because
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  Speaker 1: you and I have had very unique careers and the
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  Speaker 1: same with me, like my career did not. And again,
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  Speaker 1: for one, let me just say this, this wasn't even
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  Speaker 1: my career that I had in mind. I wanted to
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  Speaker 1: play ball, so to be a therapist, a doctor in healthcare,
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  Speaker 1: and to be a podcast holes like I remember you
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  Speaker 1: telling me, like, bro, you got to do a podcasts
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  Speaker 1: and I'm like, no, I don't. So to think about
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  Speaker 1: the process of really comprehending all of it, because even
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  Speaker 1: that's a challenge because now I am I wouldn't say force,
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  Speaker 1: but I'm pressed to look at things that I never
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  Speaker 1: thought that I would be looking at and put trust
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  Speaker 1: in people that I never thought that I would have
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  Speaker 1: to trust because I can't do it all. I can't
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  Speaker 1: read the emails, I can't respond, I can't book the
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  Speaker 1: skip the flight. I can't, you know, try to understand
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  Speaker 1: all the accommodations that I need while also focusing on
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  Speaker 1: the art and the skill that we have been gifted
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  Speaker 1: with and that's honestly what we ultimately want. We want
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  Speaker 1: to be able to just be the talent in the
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  Speaker 1: space or just be the created in this space, and
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  Speaker 1: allow the logistical pieces to be handled and handled well
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  Speaker 1: by whoever's there. I know that some of my circumstances
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  Speaker 1: have been where I've had to literally just do it myself. Yep,
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  Speaker 1: you know, so so yeah, I just I just want
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  Speaker 1: to make sure I want to I want to put
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  Speaker 1: more into practice. I've kind of done it a better
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  Speaker 1: job of it this particular year. Like I no longer
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  Speaker 1: had a label. I'm I'm extremely independent, and so I've
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  Speaker 1: had to employ my own you know, contractors like kind
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  Speaker 1: of you know, get my own folks on board and
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  Speaker 1: make up a team just based on my own network,
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  Speaker 1: and they're great at what they do. It's just again,
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  Speaker 1: I know what it feels like to be let down
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  Speaker 1: thus people that say I got it, man, that disappointment. Man,
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  Speaker 1: it's hard, bro. It's hard to your process that and
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  Speaker 1: articularly when you are trusting it, trusting them with your thing.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, because my thing and my that's what it
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  Speaker 1: is you're you're in trusting it's legit, like handing your
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  Speaker 1: baby over to be cared for a four by multiple hands.
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  Speaker 1: That's not an easy thing. Like we probably grew up
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  Speaker 1: if you grew up somewhat similar, Like we couldn't just
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  Speaker 1: go over anybody's house. You know. I have friends where
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  Speaker 1: their parents were like, yeah, you can go, you can go,
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  Speaker 1: you can go, you go. But my mom barely let
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  Speaker 1: us spend the night over anybody's house. Yeah, you know
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  Speaker 1: if there was a cousin, yeah, for the most part,
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  Speaker 1: but for the outside of that, you were just no.
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  Speaker 1: So imagine that's how it is. Like you You've got
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  Speaker 1: your project and you got your vision, and you want
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  Speaker 1: to make certain that you work as a team, but
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  Speaker 1: you have to trust the hands and the mindset the
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  Speaker 1: individuals that are part of it. So that's a daily
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  Speaker 1: work that I have to work on, you know. You know, I,
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  Speaker 1: like I said, I love excellence, bro. I'm not a
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  Speaker 1: perfectionist by any means. You just like excellence. Oh man,
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  Speaker 1: I think you would really be done. Man. What I
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  Speaker 1: hear you saying is I want it done well. That's
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  Speaker 1: the work. I want it done well. And I don't
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  Speaker 1: think anything is wrong with that. Man. I think for
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  Speaker 1: brothers like us who have this spirit of excellence, because
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  Speaker 1: if I can't do it well, I don't want to
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  Speaker 1: do it at all. That's it. I'm not doing it.
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  Speaker 1: And I can remember, man, several things that I've said
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  Speaker 1: no to because I know that I couldn't do it
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  Speaker 1: well because of my limited capacity. And I'm always interested, man,
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  Speaker 1: because I've gone through I had about three managers, had
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  Speaker 1: about three managers for publicists. The publishers I have now
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  Speaker 1: is amazing. The team that I have now is amazing.
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  Speaker 1: But I think going through the difficult time is what
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  Speaker 1: I was called in and the challenging decision that you
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  Speaker 1: have to make when it doesn't work out well, when
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  Speaker 1: you have to have the conversation that something that you
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  Speaker 1: had an expectation for that wasn't done well, that's always
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  Speaker 1: difficult for me because I've worked with mostly females that
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  Speaker 1: operate in that space. For me, so my PTSD from
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  Speaker 1: a long relationship or previous relationship that I had that
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  Speaker 1: when I shared how I truly felt, it wasn't received well.
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  Speaker 1: So even when I have gone to speak to and say, yo, man,
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  Speaker 1: can we talk about this, dude, I'm shaking because what
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  Speaker 1: happened is and women don't realize this. It's so for
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  Speaker 1: a man that like us, who can really express ourselves
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  Speaker 1: just because I can express our intelligence that can articulate,
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  Speaker 1: and it doesn't make it easy, No, because it shocks
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  Speaker 1: them because a lot of times they may appreciate it,
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  Speaker 1: but there because it's not as commons, it hits harder
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  Speaker 1: and it's like, no, but I'm just I'm just helping
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  Speaker 1: you understand exactly what it is. So it leads no
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  Speaker 1: world for you to think anything else. Yes, but yet
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  Speaker 1: and still exactly it's a wow, man, bro. I literally
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  Speaker 1: remember having to have a conversation with my managing and
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  Speaker 1: I remember taking myself through break breath breaths, like just yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And then here's the other part. It was on zoom.
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  Speaker 1: I was even conscious of how my body lay, which
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  Speaker 1: was oning zoom. I did not want to sit up
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  Speaker 1: because I'm not saying this with her, but I said,
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  Speaker 1: I didn't want her to think that there was going
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  Speaker 1: to be this level of aggression. So even that was
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  Speaker 1: just you know what, I think, it's a it's a
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  Speaker 1: byproduct of it's the gift and the challenge of being
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  Speaker 1: impaths because that's what we are. We don't like to
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  Speaker 1: see people hurt. No, we don't like to see people suffer,
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  Speaker 1: and sometimes it's us. We don't even like to see
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  Speaker 1: our enemies hurt and suffer, long past them realizing that
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  Speaker 1: they need to do better by us, but like we
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  Speaker 1: still have a compassion for I think I know why
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  Speaker 1: they're doing this, and it's like, it's not our job
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  Speaker 1: to always figure that, oubum, It's not our job to
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  Speaker 1: always feel responsible to making certain that people can what
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  Speaker 1: it is that we give. That's a God work, that's
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  Speaker 1: a God responsibility. And while empathy seemingly feels like a
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  Speaker 1: God trait, we have to be careful not to move
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  Speaker 1: into the realm of God identity or God in work
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  Speaker 1: or God responsibility. That's it God responsibility to know all
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  Speaker 1: things before we arrive there, because then it snatches us
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  Speaker 1: out of the faith space that God is more delighted
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  Speaker 1: by and God rewards. Because honestly, we know our hearts
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  Speaker 1: are always in the right place. It is probably like
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  Speaker 1: zero point zero zero two percent of the time our
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  Speaker 1: heart may not be in the right place. And I'm
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  Speaker 1: saying that only just because you know we're human. But
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  Speaker 1: for the most part, our intentions are not to make
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  Speaker 1: a person feel less than a person feel unworthy. Feel
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  Speaker 1: bad or whatever. But at the end of the day,
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  Speaker 1: we know we're building something and you cannot have a fractured,
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  Speaker 1: broken or an incompetent help to be a part of
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  Speaker 1: the building because that part that they're assigned to is
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  Speaker 1: not going to be And it's critical, Yes, it's critical
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  Speaker 1: because when you're building something, we have to build it well.
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  Speaker 1: It's the only way that is going to be respected, appreciated,
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  Speaker 1: revered and honor. Because I take what I do, Bro
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  Speaker 1: so seriously as I know that you do. I don't
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  Speaker 1: just put people together and put people on the couch.
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  Speaker 1: So like we are inundated with emails all the time,
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  Speaker 1: like hey, can we get this person on your podcast?
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  Speaker 1: Can And everything from working with CJ to working with
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  Speaker 1: my pupps is like everything. I have to sit with it.
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  Speaker 1: I have to pray about it, and I have to
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  Speaker 1: identify within my spirit. But what do you do when
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  Speaker 1: you've identified it within your spirit and you have to
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  Speaker 1: go to that person and and tell them no, and
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  Speaker 1: tell them no. I have gotten better with just being honest,
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  Speaker 1: I know. I also while I have language, I also
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  Speaker 1: have a big bowie voice, which we do. That's so crazy, Bro,
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  Speaker 1: that's so crazy. So so you gotta be double so
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  Speaker 1: like so sometimes like when I say something, it sounds
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  Speaker 1: so profound, and all I'm saying is I liked I
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  Speaker 1: like to I would love some limon pepper wings, but
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  Speaker 1: I would love some lemon pepper wings. Okay, okay, well
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  Speaker 1: just and I'm like, no, I'm just I'm just saying it.
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  Speaker 1: So I think that for me, that one and this
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  Speaker 1: has literally helped me legit Holy Spirit speak to me,
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  Speaker 1: and I have to trust that whatever comes out comes
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  Speaker 1: out is what needs to and it honestly has surprised me.
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  Speaker 1: I know that sometimes I had approached situations that I'm like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: this is not gonna, and this is gonna. I could
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  Speaker 1: tell you right now, I can be honest, I'm already
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  Speaker 1: ready to I'm not on the defense, but I'm prepared
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  Speaker 1: because just in case. And it's not that I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to have rebuttaled, but it's like, all right, I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to have to be prepared to take how they feel
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  Speaker 1: about how I feel. And that's not fair and it's
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  Speaker 1: not fair, man, that's not fair. And that is some
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  Speaker 1: type of learned behavior from a trauma that has had
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  Speaker 1: to have existed in childhood, even if not childhood in
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  Speaker 1: our in years past, that was significant enough to keep
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  Speaker 1: showing up, because what it does is it debilitates us,
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  Speaker 1: and it stops us from our advancement and our progress,
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  Speaker 1: and so our advancement in progress is slower because we
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  Speaker 1: are so concerned on making sure people that have not
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  Speaker 1: done the work, that are not willing to do the work,
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  Speaker 1: or that people that are just missing it. We just
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  Speaker 1: want to make sure they're good. And I don't think
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  Speaker 1: that God intended for us to move that way. I
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: think about the scripture to love your neighbor as yourself,
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: and the operative word that we often miss is as.
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: The measure is dependent on how you extend to yourself
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: that love because you model that which you expect. And
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: so if I give it to if I show someone
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  Speaker 1: how to respect me, I provide them if I respect me,
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: I provide someone the example of how I want to
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: be treated, how I want to be respected. And I
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: think some people wanted it, want to ride with us
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: the way that we're intending, but because we overthink it, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we don't give them an opportunity to be like, Okay,
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: so yeah I did it wrong, so let me fix it,
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: or yeah, this isn't working. Yeah, man, it's so good.
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  Speaker 4: Bro.
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: That bro, that is so good. I think for me
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: the biggest lesson that I had to learn that my
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: mentor told me this. He said, because of God is
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: expanding you. Because when you think about expansion, you think
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: about with and then you think about elevation, you think
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: about the vertical. So you have this massive sort of
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: with right of just experiences and then there's this vertical
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: part that I'm having these experience, I'm gaining this insight,
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: but the vertical and the elevation also places me at
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: a different level. So as much as I have with,
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: I also have height. And sometimes with the height, it's
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: leveling yourself back down to the reach. Because I never
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: want to be seen as if I'm talking over somebody,
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: I am talking at someone. I want to make sure
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: that I can talk to them. And he said, and
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: he's explaining and breaking all this down to me, he said,
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: with all of that, what I'm saying is you're going
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: to have to get accustomed to being the bad guy.
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: There's what if it's worth. That's when we yes exactly
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: what it is. He said, you both so all I
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: saw are and it's funny because as you hear, you
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: hear like an ambulance, do you hear the or the
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: police car? They're going to get the bag. The thing is,
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: it's like I think, because we have been in our
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: journeys the victims of bad people, we want to be
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: the rescuers of anyone else's experience there and feel the
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: pain that just so happens to be a part of life.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: And at the end of the day, as much as
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: we're just feeling responsible to have to save them from that,
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: we have to realize that when we move that way,
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: we start to interfere with the work of God. Now,
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: sometimes they need to feel a rejection, and sometimes the
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: reject has to come from a healthy mind, so they know, actually,
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: this rejection actually must be good for me. Bro. That
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: was a relation that just came for me too. Yo.
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: Oh man, Oh my god, I love Jesus Christ. Oh
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: my god, dude, a healthy rejection because a lot of
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: times we're often rejected by fractured people, so we just
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: take it as, oh, this is just horrible, But what
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: if it comes from like that, You know, that healthy
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: rebuke that they talk about biblically. Biblically, and we used
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: to be afraid to hear rebuke. But sometimes a rebuke
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: of no, that's not okay is the best thing to
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: course correct you, to say, okay, well let me fix
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: it this way. And as we've grown up, we have mentors.
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah that can gitly rebew because now that's not you
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: don't do that. No, and it's okay. It's a it's
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: a healthy rejection. It's a healthy rebuke. Oh man, that's
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: a book title. Yahm healthy rejection, healthy rejection. Because I'm
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: still come. I'm pretty dat. We're gonna all be okay,
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: we can go right listen. I'm gonna tell you why
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: that is so good. When you think about a healthy rejection,
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: it's not that this wasn't for me. This happened to me.
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: They did this, did they did that? It's I needed then. Yeah,
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: And what I'm telling people is you don't need a
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: different outcome. You need a different outlook that that will
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: change the world, because because the rejection for them, it
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: is always predicated or what they had in mind is
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: predicated on what they wanted, which is the outcome that
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: they desire. Yeah, because this rejection now means I can't
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: have the outcome, but perhaps the rejection is it's all
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: about the outlook of it that you intake information that
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: can feed and inform how you can move in the
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: next moment, bro, so that you can be ready for
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: the outcome you desire. So I got a story. While
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: you sit there, think while you sit there, story I can't.
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: Some years back met this lady. She had just come
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: out of a divorce and she had I think she
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: was married to a leader pastor some port administer. So anyway,
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: I think it's probably like maybe a year right after
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: the divorce and if we had some exchange and I said, hey,
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: you know, we'd love to take you out. And this
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: is just you know, go hang out talk. Oh okay,
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: so you just the minister to her this. I know.
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: I didn't want to finish it too, man, keep talking
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: the biggest what this dude? No, I didn't want to
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: minish to it. Man. She she listened. She she told
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: me that she just come out of the divorce. But
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: she said, hey, I'm open to yo some counsel, some therapy.
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: This woman wanted to get some something to eat and
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: I wanted to eat. Dude, let me feel this telling
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: the story keep going. So we go to eat. It's
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: good and we're sitting there talking and I'm like, man,
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: you know, she's a dope woman, got things going on.
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: But I also can feel that the divorce was over,
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: but it wasn't over for her, right. I felt that.
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: So one night we're on the phone and I said,
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: can I say something to you to y'all just talking
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: at night? Y'all talking at night? Bro doesn't mind? Am
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: I focusing on the wrong things? Yes, you're focused on
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: the things. I don't get me where I'm supposed to
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: be paying attention because all I hear is this lady
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: gets into the voice that she's not over. She wants
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: you to shoot think no, no, And now she's talking
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: to you at night. Carry on what I'm saying, dough.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: I met the lady after she's going to divorce. I
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: don't know that. So we had exchange and she tells me, hey,
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: I was married and I've been divorced over a year.
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: That's how he went. That's what I'm sakay. So everybody's
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: watching listen because I know I'm not the only one.
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: It sounded like she was grand. She was. It was
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: it was no, you know, no a divorce. She finds
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: doctor J and she wants to have some counsel. He says,
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: let's get some snacks, you know, and so she wants
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: to eat, and then she wants to start from that night.
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: Now he clarified, and that's important. It's important for you
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: to clarify. Next time you tell this story. Start with
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: she had been through a divorce and time you allow
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: if you allowed me to fit tell the story and
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: stop interrupting it. I just wanted you to be set
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: up for greatness. I didn't want anybody to turn this off.
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: This man is a good man. He's a noble man. Continue.
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: So we're on the phone at night because we both
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: worked during the day. She's in education and I'm in
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: my field of work, so nighttime is the only time
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: that we can talk clown. So anyway, we have this conversation,
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: and my spirit was uneasy. And again we've only been
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: talking about three or four weeks. So I said to her,
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: I don't know what we should continue on. I said,
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: I don't think we should continue on, and she was like,
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: oh why not. I said, I just and I said
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: it has nothing to do with the divorce. I said,
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: I'm just I send in my spirit because I was
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: it wasn't. I was feeling convicted, but I can feel
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: the spirit saying she's not ready. So going back to
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: the healthy rejection through this session. So she said, okay, Jay,
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: I can respect that. I said, I just feel it
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: heaven in my spirit. And I said, I'm not trying
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: to spiritualize this because we just vibing. I said, but
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: I don't think we should. So a year goes by
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: years month, she hits me up one day she's moved
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: on and not moved on in another relationship. But let
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: me clarify. She was living in the same city that
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: I was in, but she had moved to another city.
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: She hit me up one day and she said thank you.
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: And she says, I want to say thank you for
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: handling my heart and for guarding my heart, because she says,
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: most people in that moment, even though it had been
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: a year, I was still dealing with the remnants of it.
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: And she said, now, when you shared that with me,
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: it did feel like I was being rejected. But as
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: I be in the process, God also showed me that
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: my heart was still wounded and it would have been
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: unfair to inner something with you, knowing that I was
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: still hurting from what I had gone through, and we
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: had a really great exchange, and it really blessed me, man,
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: because sometimes you may have to make a different, difficult
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: decision for something that you want because I was, you know,
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: interested in wanting to get to know her. But this
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: is why it's so critical that the year after her divorce,
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: yet it's ample time exactly, Guys, he's in the clear. Yeah, yeah, Lord,
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: please help me with this. Brother. So the point that
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: you're making is that healthy reject healthy rejection is a
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: part of life, and we have to understand, especially as impaths,
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: as ones that move caring greatly for other people and
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: how they perceive us and how they move and excel
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: in life. We have to understand that if our intentions
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: are right and pure, that God will facilitate how they
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: accept what we give. Because if we continue to overthink
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: I got to say it this way, I gotta do
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: it this, I don't want to say all this. I
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: don't want to do that, we sabotage an opportunity of honesty,
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: which is the ultimate gift of truth fully doing its work,
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: because we're robbing them of the opportunity to get everything
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: they need that they may be informed how to move
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: next that is so important, is so valuable, and I
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: think we are just arrived at some help for us
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: for how we're gonna move in future dealings. Like it's okay, Yeah,
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: it's okay, because I know on the flip there has
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: been some rejection for myself that I have to internalize differently,
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: that outlook piece that you said where I have to
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: internalize different Oh, this doesn't mean that I wasn't qualified.
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: It just wasn't my stuff. That wasn't for me. No, Okay,
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: I think yeah, because oftentimes we jump into the seat
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: of if I didn't get it, that means I wasn't
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: good enough. But that is not at all what it means.
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: Talk to them, it does not have to mean that,
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: And most of the time it does not mean that,
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: especially to the champion mind. To the people that put
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: in work. Yes, you not getting something does not mean
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: you are not qualified. Yeah, it simply means that ain't yours.
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: He don't work anything that doesn't belong that don't belong
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: to you. Bro, I just went through, and I wouldn't
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: say went through, but I just got rejected for something
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: for a TV show that called me back several times.
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: Came out and well, yeah, came out here, came out
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: here to LA several times. Film the producers love me,
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: Love Me. The text message that called, however, the network
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: said different. And when the guy text me, I was
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: in a meeting and he said text me, He's like, hey,
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: doctor J you got a moment. I know. I didn't
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: get it. Like god, I felt it in my spirit.
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: I said, I didn't get it. So when I called
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: him back, I said hey. He say hey, man, and
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: he was like, I was like, man, cut out the pleasantries. Yeah, listen, listen, listen.
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: I've big credit brother football team for so I know
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: how just go. And I literally said to him, I
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: was like, bro, twenty years ago when I got to
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: bring my playbook, yeat that hurt. I was like, this
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: right here and how I can handle this. So when
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: he says heay, the network wanted to go another way,
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: but I know that you want to be good. And
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: I said to him, I said, brother, it just wasn't
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: for me. Now here's the other side of it. Had
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: they chosen me, I would have been I would have
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: to be going for ten weeks immediately, and all the
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: things that I have coming up, I would have missed
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: out on it, and when happened, wouldn't been able to
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: do it. And honestly, because we give, there is a
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: godly expectation of us as believers to only live in
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: the present moment. That's it, It's the only thing that's real.
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: Depression is an emotional commitment to something that's already happened
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: that you can't change. Anxiety is an emotional commitment to
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: something that hasn't happened and may never happen, that you
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: can't do nothing about. The right now Matthew six point
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: thirty four, take no thought for tomorrow, for tomorrow will
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: take has enough, It will take care of yourself, and
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: today has enough concern of its own. That hour of
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: responsibility is to be in the right now. What ends
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: up happening is we try to elongate the right now
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: beyond what the right now is. Right now included me
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: a moment ago drinking that, but it's no longer to
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: right now now is its sitting on the table. But
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: because we remember the action of the moment, we try
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: to commit ourselves to that moment. But we don't understand
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: that life is ever evolving and new things happen along
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: the way. So yes, it's stuff then, but you don't
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: have to stay stuck and the pain of a sting
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: that already happened. Make yourself available for the revelation that
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: comes along with stayed present with as the present unfolds
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: before you, because you start getting new information that wait
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: a minute, if I hadn't gotten that, I would have
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: had to cancel all of this other stuff that I
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: was working on. I wouldn't have been able to do this. Oh,
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: I see what you're doing. You're working all of this
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: together for my good, for my good. And if you
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: got the whole Dealer sessions, which obviously you haven't fully
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: listened because you would have gotten that one for the wind,
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: that's one of the tracks. Yeah, but uh, you get
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: my voice, You get my point. It's literally like you
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: start living beyond the moment of that upset. You start
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: getting information that downloads to you that this is actually
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: a good thing. It ain't bad, and it ain't bad,
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: and I needed it and I needed it. I needed
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: it because you cannot change future behaviors without the new information.
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: You gotta have the new information. That is what you
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: that is what variation by living by choosing yes to
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: be in the right now. Bro, there are so many
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: jewels in that statement alone, and I pray that the
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: person listening.
• 39:50
  Speaker 4: Lock in on, keep moving, get back in and get
• 39:59
  Speaker 4: back to it, get back up.
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: M hm. Yes, you can feel it, feel what you feel. Yes,
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: it is real, but you will never ever heal if
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: you don't just get back in it. Yes, that's that's
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: that's good to me. Man, Man, listen, this is blessing me. Bro.
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: This new project, the Whole Dealing Session, so oversion, said
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: doctor J. Tiwler. People say, Whole Dealer Session is out
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: now please go listen to this man, woman, boy or girl. Yeah,
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: I think we all need more hope in this world
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: because hope deferred makes the heart sick. Yeah, that's what
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: the scripture says, hope deferred makes the heart sick. We
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: were listening and I started listening when you send over,
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: and I'm listening to the cadence of your voice, which
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: I loved, the cadence of how you are allowing the
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: words to flow. They don't feel forced, because I've listened
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: to a few albums where it's like spoken word and
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: it's just kind of feel like to get this, get this.
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: You're more speaking from receive this. Yeah, yes, that's it.
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: It's not get it, it's foresee and you cannot receive
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: with closed hands. So not only do you have to
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: open your ears for this new project, you got to
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: open your heart, open your mind, and then also open
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: your level of consciousness because sometimes we are operating from
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: this space that no longer serve us and we're unaware
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: about it. So when you think about this new project,
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: The Hope Builder Sessions, what places you had to go
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: to and retrieve hope to push this out? The whole
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: Billit Sessions is a motivational mixtape of spoken word and
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: music intended to amplify hope and love, life and culture.
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: I live this. I have benefited from these principles in
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: real life over the past forty years of living, but
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: more specifically as I received an unction by way of
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: and I actually talk about it at the end of
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: the project. The text message that I received from our
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: good brother Chadwick Boseman on April fourth, twenty twenty, where
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: he dared us to pray. He requested that we pray
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: collectively for the hope of the world world. He sent
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: it to a few of us, and he said, because
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: the pandemic has basically forced many of us to feel
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: as though we are in a sea of hopelessness. And
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: he said, the plague was asked why it had killed
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: so many. The plague responded, I only kill it. The
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: thousands that died died from the fear of me. Wow,
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: it's hope. Hope responds to fear. Because what hope does
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: is it not only commits to a better way and
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: to the promise of our maker, but it also provides
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: evidence that if I got through the last thing, I
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: can get through this one too. That's it. Brother. Every
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: storm runs out of rain. We can't name one that didn't.
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: That's why we talk about it. We talk about Katrina.
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: As devastating as Hurricane Katrina was, that was a storm
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: that still ran out of Rein you go back to
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: New Orleans, the party started back up because the storm
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: ran out of rain. And that's life. And that duality
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: that we talked about at the beginning, Rain, sunshine, thunder breeze,
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  Speaker 1: it's all of it. And so these are literal collections
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  Speaker 1: of understanding that I've had along the way. You remember
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  Speaker 1: my major hope motivations and talks that you've encouraged me with,
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  Speaker 1: and so I was just like, this is a compilation
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  Speaker 1: of some experiences for the right now. It includes music,
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  Speaker 1: you know, new songs and remakes the for the Wind
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  Speaker 1: song that I Pray for You David Banners, you know,
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  Speaker 1: featured on on the I Pray for You drum major remix,
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  Speaker 1: and and these spoken words like get back, get back
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  Speaker 1: in it. That's our favorite one. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I love el. Yeah yeah, I'm proud of you, which
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  Speaker 1: I am very proud of you. I really really am.
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  Speaker 1: I really am. I'm very two black men. I know,
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  Speaker 1: I know you are, and I appreciate that. The the
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  Speaker 1: three Stays, that's a big one where it basically says
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  Speaker 1: the three stays of life are stay excellent, stay consistent,
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  Speaker 1: and stay ready. Yep, because when opportunity knocks, opportunities not
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  Speaker 1: just looking around for you and waiting around for you
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  Speaker 1: to get your stuff together. It's there to embrace the
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  Speaker 1: person ready to go. So yeah, we were the whole
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  Speaker 1: dealer sessions Get That No Regrets exactly to produce my
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  Speaker 1: by my brother Josiah Bell. You know, we're coming out
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  Speaker 1: of suicide Awareness Month and I want to get to
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  Speaker 1: the heart of as many people as I can to
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  Speaker 1: let them know that it ain't over. Yeah, if there's breath,
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  Speaker 1: there's more. Brother, my best friends calling me now, Joe,
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  Speaker 1: and I was, yeah, oh that's cool, that's cool. That
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  Speaker 1: is a best friend. When you interrupt the podcast to
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  Speaker 1: answer good guy. Yeah yeah, and yo, as the world
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  Speaker 1: is watching what he's navigating through, God has allowed me
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  Speaker 1: to walk with him to keep his whole. Uh, because
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  Speaker 1: you a hope dealer, oh dealer on three one two three,
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  Speaker 1: And this is that's why I answer the phone, because
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  Speaker 1: I wanted him to experience your energy. Yeah, and what
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  Speaker 1: God intended for me to even affirm, how is God?
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  Speaker 1: God be good, Life be lifing, but God be goding.
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  Speaker 1: And we have to make room for God to God.
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  Speaker 1: Because when I tell you, when God God's man, it's
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  Speaker 1: a good thing. It's a great thing. It slaps down
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  Speaker 1: every accuser, it slaps down every offender, it slaps down
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  Speaker 1: every hater. It handles it all and prepares a taping
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  Speaker 1: in front of all of that. Man, thank you, yes, sir,
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  Speaker 1: for what you did for help. And I say that,
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  Speaker 1: bro from the bottom of my heart. And as we're closing,
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  Speaker 1: it is just and you know, we talked about this
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  Speaker 1: last time, but I think it's a great time to
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  Speaker 1: to regurgitate what we shared and just to see what
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  Speaker 1: God is doing in your life, man, to see the
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  Speaker 1: problems of God to continue to Uh, let's just use
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  Speaker 1: the word recap. Recap, Yeah, regurgitate because we said it.
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  Speaker 1: H yeah, y'all see what I gotta do this. We
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  Speaker 1: can't even have a serious look. I'm just offering more outlook,
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  Speaker 1: it's all perspective recap. Yeah. It is a blessing to
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  Speaker 1: see man, that because this project wasn't even out the
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  Speaker 1: last time that we find no, No, I was working
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  Speaker 1: on it. It's it's music that I wanted to go
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  Speaker 1: on other projects. It's a mixtape. I was just like, yo,
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  Speaker 1: I have an idea. I'm getting this out to the world,
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  Speaker 1: you know, because you can't put everything when you have
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  Speaker 1: a label, you can't put every song or whatever out.
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  Speaker 1: And God was like, well, you don't have a laby,
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  Speaker 1: Now let me show you what can be done. First perspective.
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  Speaker 1: Because I kept moving, I was able to get the
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  Speaker 1: new information to help me see, Oh, that wasn't that bad, no,
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  Speaker 1: And you did it, yes, sir. And as we're closing
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  Speaker 1: out September, as you know, September suicide prevention, money. And
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  Speaker 1: what I want to share to you is the same
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  Speaker 1: thing that I shared with my brother often is we're
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  Speaker 1: made for this. We often don't feel that we're made
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  Speaker 1: for the life that God has given us because what
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  Speaker 1: we've experienced in this life that we have been blessed
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  Speaker 1: to live. And me personally, I know what it's like
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  Speaker 1: to live without hope. I know what it's like to
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  Speaker 1: be in a place of hopelessness and to not feel
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  Speaker 1: as if tomorrow will come. But I have the thought
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  Speaker 1: that I didn't want to see tomorrow. Forget that it's
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  Speaker 1: a coming. I didn't want to see it. And what
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  Speaker 1: I'm encouraging you, I don't know where you are in
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  Speaker 1: this season. I don't know what you're going through. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know what you're experiencing. Major said something that was
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  Speaker 1: so power. We often allow depression to take place in
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  Speaker 1: our life for something that has already happened. Then he said,
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  Speaker 1: we'll commit to anxiety for something that hasn't happened, and
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  Speaker 1: I will encourage you that I cannot change what has happened.
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  Speaker 1: We don't know what will. But you have the present
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  Speaker 1: moment and if you can receive the hope in this
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  Speaker 1: moment that my brother and I are sharing with you,
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  Speaker 1: I am hoping that you would give yourself another opportunity
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  Speaker 1: to keep going. We need you, brother, we need you, sister,
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  Speaker 1: We need what God has placed in you. I'm telling
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  Speaker 1: you you're not better off dead. That's the thought. Because
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  Speaker 1: I thought that, and from that thought, I made two
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  Speaker 1: attempts because I felt my family would be better off,
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  Speaker 1: the world would be better off, but not knowing that
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  Speaker 1: God said the world would be better because you stayed,
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  Speaker 1: the world would be better because you chose to live.
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  Speaker 1: Your family would be better because you made a decision
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  Speaker 1: to keep moving. Because Major said this, the rain has
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  Speaker 1: to end. And I know most of us that are
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  Speaker 1: struggling with suicidal thoughts. We think that the pain won't
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  Speaker 1: ever end, and we think ending our life will cause
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  Speaker 1: the pain to end. But that is the beginning of
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  Speaker 1: pain that you don't even know what those then taking
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  Speaker 1: your pain to give it to the ones who care,
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  Speaker 1: and there's always someone who does. That's so good. I
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  Speaker 1: think a lot of people will be blessed by this episode,
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  Speaker 1: So I'm thanking God in advance for it being so
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  Speaker 1: Hope ain't never canceled. Jesus' name a man. Listen again.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you guys for tuning in. This was a powerful, powerful,
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  Speaker 1: powerful episode with my brother and friend. That's major, the
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  Speaker 1: Hope Dealer himself new project, The Hope Dealer Session. Please
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  Speaker 1: go grab it, please go support it. Listen to it.
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  Speaker 1: Let it affirm you, let it builds you up. Let
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  Speaker 1: it give you hope. Major talk to the good people.
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  Speaker 1: Close es out, brother, don't give up. As the good
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  Speaker 1: Reverend Jesse Jackson said almost every space he stepped, man,
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  Speaker 1: keep hope alive, Keep hope alive, Keep hope alive. That's
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  Speaker 1: not some fluffy cliche. Is a powerful moves to lock
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  Speaker 1: in on that hope. Hope. It's a powerful thing, and
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  Speaker 1: hope ain't ever canceled. Hope Dealer on three Jay one
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  Speaker 1: two three Hope and remember heally is a journey and
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  Speaker 1: wholeness is the destination. Until next time, take care of yourself,
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