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#253: Vile (2011) · What's Your (Least) Favorite Scary Movie?

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  Hello, what's your least favorite scary movie?
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  So now we have to carefully torture ourselves twice.
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  What's your least favorite scary movie?
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  That podcast where we talk about the good, the bad, the ugly, and
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  the absurd in all of our favorite.
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  And least favorite scary movies because we believe every horror
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  movie rightfully has its fan base even.
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  If we don't always get. It my name is Travis.
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  My name is Jesse and welcome to my birthday week.
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  Yay. Kind of.
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  My birthday is on Sunday so we decided to do my birthday movie
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  this week. We are talking Vile and I am so
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  excited because we've been wanting to talk about this one
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  for a while. Yeah, cutting deep to this week
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  too. Yes for sure.
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  Don't see a lot of people talk about this too often.
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  No, we don't. And I'm just going to go ahead
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  and say now just based off of some of our regular listener
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  responses, if you haven't watched this yet, go ahead and
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  watch it before we get into spoiler territory because as you
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  all know, we will immediately. I mean, it's not like, like huge
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  ground breaking spoilers, but, you know, it's still enough that
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  it's fun to go in for the ride. Yeah, originally.
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  So I was actually gonna do a different opening quote, and I
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  joked around with Travis about it.
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  But then I saw some people be like, I had to watch this one
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  and I want you to go watch it and then listen to this.
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  Yeah, it's, I mean, not a lot of story, yeah, there.
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  But you know, like if you want to go in fresh, definitely watch
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  that first. Yeah, it's, it's 88 minutes.
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  It's on free streaming services, which we'll get all of that.
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  Yeah. We'll, we'll get into all of
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  that here shortly. But before that, I don't have
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  any announcements, OK. But I would like to hear some
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  poll results. Yeah, so last week we discussed
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  Wrong Turn 5, which has Doug Bradley starring in it.
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  You know him as Pinhead. We knew him as Maynard in that.
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  Movie. Yeah, Maynard Odets.
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  So we just wanted to know which other horror movie franchise
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  would you like to see Doug Bradley jammed into next?
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  What are you blackmailing him into doing?
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  It's still technically ongoing, got 4 hours remaining, but as it
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  stands now, this will probably likely stand.
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  Yeah, a 14% for final destination.
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  OK, 7% Sharknado, 50% Scream, 29% saw.
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  OK, so and we talked about this and we wanted to do ones that he
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  couldn't just be quiet behind a mask.
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  We. Yeah, you got to have him front
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  and center. He's got to act in, preferably
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  in an accent other than English. Yes I honestly I if what he does
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  in wrong turn 5 is any indication of how he will act it
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  would be terrible but I can't get over the trolley idea in my
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  head of him being in Sharknado. I mean, he he would fit in and
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  really, but the the one thing about it and we talked about
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  this last episode is he would need to turn in a silly
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  performance, which I'm not sure he's capable of because it
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  seemed like wrong turn 5 was calling for silliness, but he
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  was delivering everything straight.
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  He was not a goose. He was not a goose.
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  Personally, I would like to see him in the Saw franchise.
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  OK. Do you want him as like a new
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  protege or just like maybe an opening kill?
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  He's part of the game, OK? He's part of the ongoing game.
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  OK, he's part of the main storyline.
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  He may end up being a protege down the line, a plan, but we
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  don't know. He could be the Larry Gordon of
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  that movie. I'm I don't know why because he
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  doesn't survive but I'm getting Jeff vibes.
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  From him, if he did a Jeff thing, if he plays Jeff's dad,
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  then yeah. My God, now he's the mad sad
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  dad. Yeah, and he moves even slower.
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  Preferably named Ricky, I just feel like he would fit in as a
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  Ricky in the Saw universe. Yeah, especially with him trying
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  to force a non-english accent. Yeah, OK.
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  Yeah, there we go. I feel it.
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  OK, cool. All right, so that was their
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  poll. OK, so now let's get into vile.
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  OK so Vile premiered at the film for Fright Fest on August 26th,
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  2011, but it's wide US release was on July 24th 2012.
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  OK we watched it on DVD and I'll talk about that in a second.
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  Why I picked this for my birthday movie but.
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  Yeah, you got to give an explanation.
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  I will when we get to right before we start our goodbye to
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  ugly and I'm sorry, I'll discuss it some more.
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  This is available in the US as of today on Two Beat Plex,
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  Crackle and Prime Premium. Or you can rent it from Fandango
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  at home so it is a watchable movie.
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  It is free. I don't know if any revenue
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  stream go to anyone anywhere for this.
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  It's got to someone, well, Vile Productions.
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  They're whole, They have a whole studio.
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  And I'll talk about that in a second too also.
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  Tony 2. Tony 2 Productions.
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  No, it's Tony 7. Tony 7.
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  Excuse me? Yeah, remember you made the
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  joke, Tony 4/7. Yes, you better.
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  No, I said 27 Tony 7, not 27 Tony 7.
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  You, you punched it up way better.
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  Tony 4/7. I swear last night I heard you
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  say Tony 4/7. I you know, I'm glad that
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  sometimes whenever I make a bad joke, you fill in the blanks to
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  make it better. I appreciate that.
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  OK, Written by Eric J Beck and Rob Rob Kasalik, directed by
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  Taylor Sheridan, supposedly in his directorial debut.
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  More information on that in a moment.
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  Taylor Sheridan, if you're not familiar with name, is kind of a
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  heavy hitter in made for streaming television.
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  You might know him as the creator of Yellowstone, the
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  Lioness, mayor of Kingstown, and he acted on several seasons of
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  Sons of Anarchy. He is a known quantity.
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  He also wrote Sicario, which is a huge movie.
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  He's I think he's an Oscar winning screenwriter.
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  Yes, he is. He has got and the snippet I
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  gave was just a small snippet, but he is well known, well
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  established. OK, so music, we don't have
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  original compositions, but I did go ahead and get the music
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  supervisor because she found this song, she paid the rights
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  for it and she used it hard. And Edgar Nucci.
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  Yeah, OK. And special effects makeup by
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  Galaxy Galaxy San Juan. OK, so starring Eric J Beck as
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  Nick, and that is J as in Jay. Is that the writer?
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  Yes. OK.
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  And I'm only specifying that because in the credits you see
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  him listed as Eric E like initial E Beck.
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  But currently on IMDb he is Eric JJAY Beck.
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  OK, so Eric J Beck as Nick, April Mattson as Taylor, Akeem
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  Smith as Tony, Greg Sipes as Sam, Maya Hazen as Tara, Alicia
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  Skorman as Kai, Heidi Mueller as Lisa, McKenzie Westmore as
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  Diane, Ian Bowen as Julian, Rob Kirkland as Greg, and Maria
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  Olsen as the woman on the TV. And can we get in front of this
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  and let people know that Greg, what's his name?
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  Greg Sipes. It's either Sipes or Kipes.
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  I meant to look up if that was a harder soft sea and I forgot to
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  until I was reading his name out loud and I went with my gut,
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  which was a soft sea. So he is the voice actor of
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  Beast Boy on Teen Titans and Teen Titans Go, Yes, So yeah.
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  And he's also in Fast and Furious.
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  Yes, the 4th 1/4. Yeah, I was trying to do that
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  thing. Furious, I know, but for people
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  that haven't been around for our particular argument in our
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  household of name versus name with the in it that has been
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  ongoing for various franchises the past few days.
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  And for anybody who has not watched anything with him as a
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  live action performer, he that's just his normal voice.
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  Yeah, he sounds exactly like Beast Boy in this movie too.
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  So. Yeah, it's and we don't call him
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  Beast Boy just because we know those Beast Boys actors, because
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  you hear Beast Boy. Whenever I mean dogs, there was
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  like a voice of my childhood, so I thought it was really cool
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  seeing him in the. OK, Travis.
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  OK, it's time for our favorite game.
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  Budget or bug? Ted, this is so obviously a bug
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  Ted movie. OK, believe it or not, it is bug
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  Ted, you're. Correct.
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  I was going to say, you can't tell me this is budget.
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  I have a very, very rough hearsay budget estimate, OK.
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  And again, and we'll get to that momentarily of 20,000.
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  Wow. OK, wow.
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  Yeah, that makes sense. I had no opening box office
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  information because it was released, just streaming.
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  No worldwide gross information. Does have an IMDb score of 4.8.
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  OK, 4.8 Really. That's suit.
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  That's surprising. I this seems like very much a
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  love it or hate it movie for people.
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  I guess. Very few people are in the
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  middle on it. Really, it's surprising.
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  I pulled three other movies from 2011 and the theme is movies
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  that Jesse dug up from the dregs of streaming services and or
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  rental stores and foisted upon her loved ones.
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  Hey, OK. Well, then I can verify some of
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  these, I'm sure. All right, I'll share it.
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  So the first one I know for sure, you and I have watched
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  this together. Actually, we watch all three of
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  these together. OK, Rites of Spring.
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  Man, yeah, that God remind me again.
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  Like a fever dream. So like these, I'm pretty sure
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  it was something like this group of teens.
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  They get lost, their car breaks down, whatever.
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  They're on a farm. Somebody has to sacrifice them
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  for the spring. Yeah.
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  God, we watched that so long ago.
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  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That released October 22nd,
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  2011. Don't have a budget or a gross.
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  It does have a 4.5 out of 10 on IMDBI.
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  Don't remember much about the movie but I'm feeling like it's
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  a pretty high score. Yeah, I don't.
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  That's one that I haven't cared to ever revisit.
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  No, no, me too. Yeah, it was.
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  You know, you get misses. These next two have revisited
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  and in fact we have talked about one of them on the show OK
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  Hostel Part 3. Oh boy.
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  Yep, Yep, Yep, we did talk about that.
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  That released December 21st 2011 had a budget of 6,000,000.
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  No gross because again, straight to DVDs, live streaming and as a
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  4.6 out of 10 on IMDb. Wow man, so these are all just
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  like whoa rated movies. Does that track for the last one
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  too? Yep, in fact Vile is the highest
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  rated. Really.
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  Oh wow. OK, let's hear it.
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  They're the last one. So we own Hostel Part 3.
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  We also own this one. OK, the task.
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  God, yeah. Featuring Texas Battle.
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  Yeah, my God, that's one of those.
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  Is it IFC original and? It's the.
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  After dark, midnight, after midnight.
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  Is the after dark like 8 movies to die for?
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  Yeah, that's it. Yep.
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  Yeah, yeah. It's like about a guy in the
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  they're doing a reality show in an abandoned.
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  Yeah, it's kind of a RIP off of Halloween.
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  Doom Asylum. Doom Asylum and Halloween.
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  Resurrection. Resurrection.
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  Yeah, Yeah. It's like you, Nash those two.
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  Movies. Yeah, yeah.
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  And it was part it was part of the we did a weekend where we
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  did a Texas Battle Marathon because we watched that wrong
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  Turn 2 and Final Destination 3. Didn't we do that accidentally
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  too? It was the first two were in
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  accident and then we put in the task and he was there too and
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  we're like. Man, yeah, good finds.
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  These are definitely Jesse pics right here that we found.
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  Didn't we watch file from like Hastings rental back in college?
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  I'm gonna get to the origin of our file DVD shortly.
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  OK? Cuz it's part of the reason why
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  I picked the movie. OK that the task released July
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  14th 2011. No budget.
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  Supposedly a worldwide gross of 1.6000.
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  I'm assuming DVD sales. Gotta be.
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  Yeah, and a 4.2 out of 10 on IMDb.
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  Yeah, it's not a great movie. No, it's kind of an unsatisfying
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  ending, Those After Dark movies, like sometimes they really hit
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  hard and sometimes they're just like.
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  Yeah, they can be OK. Yeah.
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  So it's, it's always a gamble with them.
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  It's usually what I'm willing to take.
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  Yes, same. I have one tagline.
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  OK. I think it's a solid 1 though,
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  but I'd like to hear your opinion.
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  Give till it hurts. That's pretty good, yeah.
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  Give till it hurts. Yeah, that's solid.
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  I think it works for the movie. I mean, it's it is the premise
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  of the movie. Yeah.
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  You give until it hurts. OK, so I've got a quote from
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  Taylor Sheridan which explains how I have the estimate and what
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  I mean about whether or not this is his directorial debut.
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  I would say this referring to Wind River, is my future debut.
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  A friend of mine raised, I don't know what, he raised 20 grand or
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  something and cast his buddies and wrote this bad horror movie
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  that I told him not to direct. He was going to direct it and
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  produce it and he started and freaked out and called and said
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  can you help me? I said yeah, I'll try.
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  I kind of kept the shit pointed straight and they went off and
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  edited and I did and did what they did.
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  I think it's generous to call me the director.
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  I think he was trying to say thank you in some way.
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  It was an excellent opportunity to point a camera and learn some
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  lessons that actually benefited me on Wind River.
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  Wow, he's kind of shit talking. This thing isn't.
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  He. Yeah, he's.
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  Like he wrote a bad. He's talking about his friend
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  here. Yeah, yeah.
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  So my friend like he shitty movie man.
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  Can you imagine a friend reading?
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  Well, and here's the thing cuz I'm gonna get to the rest of
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  these fun facts. It's very little information.
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  There is almost nothing on the Internet about this.
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  It's like Taylor Sheridan used his connections in Hollywood to
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  scrub the Internet clean. Cuz I'm gonna tell you what I
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  have from the DVD. I tried to look up interviews.
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  All I could find interview wise was that singular quote that was
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  used on different websites. I tried to look up interviews
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  from different actors from the writer, like nothing.
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  And you mentioned Vile Entertainment LLC, one of the
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  production companies listed. As far as I can tell, it is
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  solely associated with this movie.
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  Yeah, it doesn't come up on a Google search.
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  It may, I mean when I saw that they made it for the movie.
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  Yes, and I've never seen it ever again.
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  Yeah, nothing will come up on a Google search other than this
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  movie. Like it probably isn't even an
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  actual production company, they probably just slap the logo.
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  Yeah, I don't if it was ever like legit, I don't think it's
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  like trademark or whatever is still active anymore.
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  Yeah, 'cause you see a bunch of other like Vile Productions and
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  Vile Studios and stuff like that, 'cause it's a pretty easy
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  name to use for horror. But you don't see Vile
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  Entertainment LLC. I've got a question.
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  So have you looked at any of the IMDb profiles of any of the
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  actors in this? Looked at a few of them.
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  Have they had careers? Did they have careers
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  beforehand? I didn't look like super far
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  back. Eric Beck did do some additional
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  work with Taylor Sheridan outside of this.
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  He's the guy that he was shit talking, right?
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  Pretty much, yeah. Yeah, I mean, I think they're
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  still friends. Obviously we know Greg Sipes is.
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  That's because that's my point. They like for it to be such a
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  low budget thing, and I think that sounds like it was just
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  friends involved. Got Beast Boy, Yeah.
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  How did that happen? Yeah, I think that they actually
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  got a a big decent amount of casts like cuz they, they're,
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  they all have more than just this on their profiles.
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  OK, cuz I mean like Taylor Sheridan, that's his name,
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  right? Yeah, he wasn't a name at that
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  point in yeah, his career. I mean, he hadn't written any of
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  those big movies yet, so. He hadn't written any of the big
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  movies yet. I think I was sense of anarchy
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  already going. I think it might have been.
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  I don't know when that came out. You know what?
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  Maybe he did have that go on. He wasn't a nobody, but he
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  hadn't done like he hadn't directed yet.
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  OK, I guess he could have had connections.
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  Yeah, it's weird that he would have had a connection with Beast
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  Boy, but you know, where do I know?
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  Well, and I, it's funny cuz when I was reading like interviews,
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  just trying to find literally anything about this movie, he,
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  he's, he's got a very interesting approach when he
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  does auditions with actors, cuz he says all the time he get
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  actors that will be like, I can't believe you chose me for
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  this because that was a terrible audition.
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  And he'd be like, yeah, it was, but I saw what I needed to see.
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  So I think he just might be a very blunt kind of guy.
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  Wow. You know, but I mean, that's
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  kind of good. Yeah, like he sees, he sees the
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  potential. Yeah.
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  Which makes it interesting that he did this movie.
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  He admits it. It was bad, but he you know.
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  Yeah, usually when you start this like at the start of your
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  career and you're not really pumping out, yeah, great a shit.
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  So he says it was a good learning opportunity at any
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  rate. Yeah, OK.
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  I've got 2 deleted scenes that we're gonna discuss that aren't
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  in the movie. So the first one is Greg and
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  Julie and they're two of the people that we will meet in the
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  house along the way. But we see them going to a club
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  and selling three of these pills to the club owner and.
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  I believe those are the pills that were manufactured in the
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  opening, right? Yes.
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  OK, Yeah. That is the implication.
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  They are the pills from this drug company and he charges just
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  the guy, 12 per, I'm assuming 1200 per pill.
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  And the guy seems shocked. He said, oh, you raised the
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  prices and Greg's like, yeah, you got a problem with it.
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  And, you know, after he, they make the deal, they walk away
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  and Julian's like, did you get that approved?
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  And he goes, who cares? Like this is, you know, yeah,
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  he's like. What the fuck did you do that
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  for? Yeah, so, and that's supposed to
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  be the implication of why they both wound up in the house,
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  because they were skimming off the top and stealing from the
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  company. Yeah, second deleted scene was
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  just Greg. When he's waking up, he wakes up
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  screaming. This house is going to be sound
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  fucking proofed because he screams so loud in her face.
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  It was so funny because I think it genuinely caught Lisa's actor
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  off. Yeah, he's like leaning into his
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  face like Greg, are you OK? He's like God and.
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  He goes, my legs are my legs. And she goes, yeah.
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  And he goes, I'm going to die. And she goes, no, you're not
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  going to die. Tell me about your son.
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  He goes, you don't know anything, you're a child.
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  And she goes, I'm 25. And so they kind of bicker about
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  that. And she, we find out she wound
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  up there because she finally got the courage to try and go out
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  and meet some people. And she met a guy at a bar.
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  I wonder if it was the club where they sell the pills
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  honestly. Oh, probably.
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  And, you know, she just wound up there.
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  So we we see that it's not all the same person like there's
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  multiple people doing. That, yeah, that I thought that
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  that was interesting. That was a good little bit of
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  war and I I like having that extra scene with Greg and Julian
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  because that was also interesting to have context
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  because we are kind of thrust into this without knowing
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  exactly what their deal is. Yeah.
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  And Greg, he's got a nine year old son that he's got like
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  weekend visitation of. Yeah.
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  So that kind of possibly explains his like bucket
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  attitude towards the drug dealing.
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  Yeah. OK.
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  There's one other bonus feature on this DVD that is it's like
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  director Taylor Sheridan mopping of the aftermath of Vile.
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  And, you know, you think that's a cute little quippy like
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  explanation for him explaining how they went about and shot the
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  film. No, it's literally like 60
• 20:13
  seconds of him mopping up the kitchen after they made a mess
• 20:16
  and he's got his earbuds in and he's whistling and singing.
• 20:19
  You know, honestly, that's what I expected.
• 20:22
  I expected to see like I because we got that with Terrifier 3.
• 20:26
  We got to see the Queen up and like, you know what we're
• 20:28
  probably going to see? See some clean up and you know.
• 20:30
  And then he goes the bedroom better not be as fucking dirty
• 20:34
  as this one or something like something that.
• 20:36
  Affects Wow. OK.
• 20:37
  So yeah, had nothing. Nothing.
• 20:39
  I tried really hard to find some information about this SO.
• 20:43
  That's funny, you know, you get what you can get.
• 20:47
  Get what you can get. I really think that he's trying
• 20:50
  to remove himself from this as much as possible.
• 20:53
  Oh, and it you've already accomplished yourself, man, just
• 20:55
  admit. OK OK, so I picked this movie
• 20:59
  for my birthday movie. This wound its way up to us
• 21:02
  because my mom, the Blockbuster in my hometown, was closing and
• 21:07
  she got me a bunch of DVDs that they were just like selling as a
• 21:11
  Christmas gift one year. And this is one of.
• 21:14
  Them. Oh yeah, that's what happened.
• 21:16
  Had never heard of it, but we all watched it.
• 21:18
  My family, like all immediately really enjoyed it and it's
• 21:21
  become one that like we'll just like if we're in the mood for a
• 21:24
  saw but don't want to watch a particular saw, we'll kind of
• 21:26
  put this one on. Yeah.
• 21:28
  And I picked it because I think it's just I mean, I've discussed
• 21:31
  before in my opinion on torture porn.
• 21:34
  I don't necessarily like that the sub genre is called that.
• 21:37
  And I like the move towards referring to it as a splatter
• 21:40
  gore instead, because it isn't really romanticizing it or
• 21:47
  glorifying it in any way. And I really feel like this
• 21:50
  movie is kind of trying to take the opposite approach and be
• 21:53
  like, this isn't meant to be fun.
• 21:55
  We're all supposed to feel gross and bad about it.
• 21:57
  And yeah, it is leaning into the popularity of Saul.
• 22:00
  But if you're trying to get started in movie making, why
• 22:03
  wouldn't you work with a popular formula?
• 22:05
  I mean, that's what a lot of people do, yeah.
• 22:07
  Yeah, so that's why I picked this movie.
• 22:10
  That's why we have it on DVD. That's why I've got the very
• 22:12
  little information that's available about this movie out
• 22:15
  in the world. I can almost guarantee you
• 22:17
  though, one night if you hadn't have gotten this, we would have
• 22:21
  been like walking through Toby or something.
• 22:23
  You would have come across this and you would have.
• 22:25
  This would have maybe been a. Toby or not Toby, and it would
• 22:28
  have been a Toby. Like said, I absolutely will
• 22:30
  watch this again if I ever find it on DVD at Half Price Books.
• 22:33
  I won't own it. Like it's for sure one of those
• 22:35
  movies. So that being said, Travis,
• 22:38
  we're gonna go into good, bad, ugly, absurd.
• 22:40
  OK, you kick it off this week. All right, so I feel like this
• 22:46
  movie, it, it does a good job at I think accomplishing what it's
• 22:52
  trying to do. I think it's trying to make you
• 22:54
  squirm with the shit that goes down here.
• 22:57
  It's really trying to make you feel uncomfortable with what
• 23:01
  they are performing. Like it gets right to the point
• 23:05
  with straight up action. There's not a lot of plot in
• 23:09
  this movie, which I personally I like every now and then.
• 23:12
  I don't have to have, you know, every now and then, since I have
• 23:15
  a movie where it's just like. No film, no fuss.
• 23:17
  Yeah, it was like, you know the premise, you look at the cover
• 23:21
  and then you get the movie that is delivering everything that is
• 23:25
  pretty much saying it's going to be about.
• 23:28
  So they do that. They don't bog it down with
• 23:31
  unnecessary story. It just knows exactly what it is
• 23:34
  and it plays that game and I respect that.
• 23:38
  I feel like even if this is a really low budget production, I
• 23:43
  feel like they did a pretty decent little job here.
• 23:45
  Yeah. I mean, they have some technical
• 23:48
  imitations that I'll talk about here in a minute.
• 23:50
  But honestly, I thought that they put together like a nice
• 23:54
  little movie here. Like it flows well.
• 23:57
  It's short. It's to the point it just like,
• 24:01
  I don't know, it's a fun movie watching experience if that's if
• 24:04
  you like the splatter gore genre.
• 24:06
  Yeah, I think if that's a thing that you enjoy, you can watch
• 24:09
  this movie and have a good time. And I'm a fan of that genre.
• 24:12
  So that's pretty much it for my good.
• 24:16
  OK, my good is, yeah, I think it it doesn't take any more time
• 24:19
  than it needs to on the story. And honestly, I think at the
• 24:21
  runtime we could have left, well, we don't necessarily need
• 24:26
  that scene with Lisa and Greg. No, I'm OK with that being cut.
• 24:30
  I like the scene with Greg and Julian, but how do you work that
• 24:34
  into the rest of the story narratively?
• 24:37
  So I kind of understand why that was cut too.
• 24:39
  I mean, you could do, I mean they, they just, it seems like
• 24:42
  they made a decision to keep it exclusively, like we are
• 24:45
  following this group of people. If you would have kept that
• 24:48
  scene in there, then it would have been about all of the
• 24:50
  groups. Yes.
• 24:51
  Then we would have needed to also introduce how the other
• 24:53
  people wound up. Yeah.
• 24:54
  And how Tara knew. Or how Tara knows Greg, which it
• 24:58
  implies that maybe he has sold to her or his.
• 25:01
  Yeah. At the club or something?
• 25:03
  Yeah, which I guess they may have had some of this stuff
• 25:07
  planned out themselves, but it doesn't really come through in
• 25:10
  any of the script other than like a few moments.
• 25:13
  But I don't mind that ambiguity because we're like, because they
• 25:17
  did make that choice to follow along with these, this group of
• 25:19
  four. Yeah, we're in the same spot as
• 25:21
  them. I like that too, I feel like
• 25:24
  they made the right call doing that because I think it makes it
• 25:28
  a really interesting deleted scene to see after the fact.
• 25:31
  Yes, seeing that scene after the movie is cool.
• 25:34
  Yes, I I like the chemistry with the with that main 4 friend
• 25:38
  group. Like you can tell that they've
• 25:41
  all been friends for a while. They're little cuddle puddle at
• 25:43
  the beginning. Puddle, puddle.
• 25:45
  Yeah. That's a good tariff for.
• 25:48
  That like, you know, we get, we get the good babe moment with
• 25:52
  Kai and Taylor very House of Wax where she's encouraging her to
• 25:57
  tell her boyfriend about the pregnancy.
• 26:01
  Yeah, we, we got that. We honestly, for a movie that's
• 26:05
  all about like torturing people, we don't see a ton of gore.
• 26:09
  No, I feel like that had to have been a budget limitation.
• 26:12
  But I think it honestly works out well because I think of this
• 26:15
  movie, I think of it as being really bloody and gory.
• 26:18
  But I was watching it with a very careful eye last night and
• 26:21
  I was like, wow, they really don't show a ton of what's going
• 26:24
  on. And they don't show a ton of the
• 26:26
  aftermath either, other than people being a little bit
• 26:28
  traumatized and blood smeared. Yeah, and the few incidents
• 26:31
  where you do see some of the action on screen, they sell it
• 26:34
  well. Yeah, so I, I just, I think
• 26:37
  overall it tells an effective little story.
• 26:40
  And like I said, I like that it kind of subverts the like, we're
• 26:43
  going to like really ham up the gore of this because it really
• 26:48
  does not. You know, it's kind of like one
• 26:51
  of our friends said that they can't stop thinking about the
• 26:55
  gore in Texas Chainsaw. And I looked at her and I was
• 26:57
  like there is none. A little bit.
• 27:01
  There's like, there's a little bit, but it's not a big gory,
• 27:03
  bloody movie. A lot of it is left off screen
• 27:05
  to the imagination. And I think it's just, it's one
• 27:08
  of those things that like, you've got a small budget and
• 27:10
  you work with it, but if you do it effectively, the audience's
• 27:13
  mind fills in the gaps in a way that they don't realize that
• 27:16
  they're doing themselves. Yeah, if you do it well, yeah,
• 27:20
  you can. You can do that.
• 27:22
  You can get away with not showing it.
• 27:24
  Yeah. So I think those are that's the
• 27:26
  gist of my goods. And I think, I think every
• 27:28
  performance, honestly, is really solid, too.
• 27:32
  Boy, are we gonna disagree. Well, you know they do OK.
• 27:37
  OK. I think mostly I don't think the
• 27:44
  Nick character has acted great and I he's not bad, but you
• 27:53
  know, he's a writer, you know, like I, I don't think that that
• 27:55
  guy sat out with acting aspirations or anything like
• 27:58
  that. He was doing it because he was
• 28:00
  needed to do it. But no, I mean, like, I'll
• 28:04
  mostly agree with you. Everybody seems to do pretty
• 28:06
  well. OK.
• 28:07
  But yeah, not it's not good. I wouldn't say.
• 28:12
  I mean, it's a better caliber of acting than you typically see in
• 28:15
  these really low budget movies. I'll give you that.
• 28:17
  Yeah. OK.
• 28:18
  OK, so the bad, yes, they do suffer some technical
• 28:22
  limitations. I think the audio is the biggest
• 28:25
  thing that suffers. Yeah.
• 28:27
  And audio is super important for movies, people.
• 28:31
  I feel like people underestimate how important audio is.
• 28:35
  Tara's actress blows out the speakers every time she screams.
• 28:39
  Yeah, but there's also some inconsistency with how some
• 28:42
  people are miked. Lisa, she has a good mix on her
• 28:47
  stuff. There were a few times where I
• 28:49
  thought maybe she did some ADR, yeah.
• 28:51
  But for the most part, she, like I can hear her very clearly any
• 28:56
  time that they're just yelling or anything like that.
• 29:00
  Like it's blowing out every single time.
• 29:02
  Greg is almost impossible to hear.
• 29:04
  Yeah, this. Is a really difficult movie.
• 29:06
  There were no subtitles on the DVD.
• 29:08
  Nope. So, and I don't know if that's
• 29:10
  true on the streaming services. I can only imagine that it's got
• 29:13
  to be because they get that from the production, like from
• 29:17
  whoever provides the copy they that's with it.
• 29:20
  So. Yeah.
• 29:21
  So it's Greg's lines, very hard to pick up.
• 29:25
  Yeah. So yeah, that's one of the
• 29:28
  things. I also feel like they did try to
• 29:31
  have a few moments here and there of having like some
• 29:34
  substance, but I feel like it mostly fells.
• 29:37
  I feel like this movie needed to kind of stick to just being
• 29:40
  straightforward. Like the one that I really think
• 29:42
  of the most is that moment with Nick and Sam.
• 29:48
  These boys actor. Yeah, they like when he walks
• 29:51
  away and he goes to that to the bedroom to just chill out after
• 29:55
  being tortured and like Nico was in there and he's like trying to
• 29:57
  have like some kind of talk to connect to him or something like
• 29:59
  that. Felt pointless and there was no
• 30:04
  reason for it. I didn't understand what it was
• 30:07
  like. Was it to give us a break as
• 30:09
  viewers from the torture? That way it's not wall to wall
• 30:12
  torture. If you're going to do that, fill
• 30:15
  it with something with a little bit, like if you're going to try
• 30:17
  and have like filler there, make it something filling.
• 30:22
  It was just kind of junk. It didn't really do anything at
• 30:25
  all and I was just left thinking, what's the point?
• 30:28
  What's happening? They're just not even even
• 30:31
  saying anything, OK? Other than that, I don't really
• 30:34
  have much else bad to say. OK.
• 30:37
  My bad. Yeah, No, I think we all know
• 30:41
  here on the show, I'm the queen of the suspension of disbelief.
• 30:45
  I like to just submerge myself in the story and accept the
• 30:48
  logic for what it is. Right?
• 30:49
  Yeah. And I get that in this.
• 30:51
  They were trying to get it to a point where people feel like
• 30:55
  they have to do this right. And honestly, we don't need to
• 31:00
  push this too far. This is just kind of an
• 31:02
  extension of, like, the Stanford prison experiment and the
• 31:06
  Milgram experiments, you know, where, like, an authority is
• 31:09
  telling you to do this thing. You feel like you have to do the
• 31:11
  thing. Especially in a situation where
• 31:13
  they all point out that they've been outsmarted and kidnapped
• 31:15
  and they don't feel like they can take these people on.
• 31:17
  Right, Right. So whatever.
• 31:20
  I get that. And I get the preferring torture
• 31:23
  to essentially rape angle that we take.
• 31:26
  Yeah. And I get that.
• 31:28
  They're saying that the house is boarded up tight, even with
• 31:31
  tools, the tubes that release the chemicals into the brain,
• 31:36
  that is like, their main thing that like is supposed to like,
• 31:40
  really keep them on edge like that.
• 31:44
  They have to do this and hopefully killed.
• 31:46
  Those tooths can be cut through. There's knives everywhere.
• 31:49
  Yeah, that's what I was thinking too.
• 31:51
  There's all kinds of tools to get that shit out.
• 31:52
  Like I that's, that's like my main, like I wish maybe we had
• 31:56
  seen it was like a little steel hose or something instead, like
• 31:59
  don't make it this little PVC pipe that you can.
• 32:03
  I really they tried to address that when Julian pulls his out
• 32:06
  and then kills him, but at the same time it's like don't pull
• 32:09
  it out then just cut the tube, that's all.
• 32:11
  You got to do just make, you know, like actors when they warm
• 32:15
  up and they're like do the massage train or whatever, like
• 32:17
  just everybody has a knife and we all go in one circle at one
• 32:20
  time and do it. So that way they can't try and
• 32:22
  randomly kill somebody. Is that a thing actors just do a
• 32:25
  massage train? I mean, I've done that on shows
• 32:28
  before. Yeah.
• 32:29
  I just. I feel like that was that.
• 32:31
  And also like the passage of time in this movie makes no
• 32:35
  goddamn sense. First of all, why 22 hours?
• 32:38
  I have to assume it has to do something with the viability of
• 32:41
  the chemicals and I. They they wanted to give them
• 32:47
  time, but they like the time. The clock moves fast in this
• 32:51
  movie. It moves fast until the end and
• 32:53
  then it moves slow. Yeah, like, I feel like they
• 32:57
  wanted to introduce that thing to give some tension, but then
• 33:01
  they kind of didn't really manage it well.
• 33:04
  Like, oh, here's 22 hours and then we cut down to like 3
• 33:08
  hours. It's like, OK, here we go.
• 33:09
  Now we're really going like, just make it an hour.
• 33:12
  Yeah. And.
• 33:13
  Then also 12 hours, 12 hours would have been believable for
• 33:15
  this press, like how pressed they are.
• 33:18
  Yeah. Also like your pain response
• 33:21
  doesn't stop after the immediate like hit, you know?
• 33:26
  It's like ongoing. Yeah, it just keeps going.
• 33:28
  They should have like the the percentage should have kept
• 33:31
  going up like 'cause even Taylor later, like she pours bleach on
• 33:35
  her like burned arm. That's just an extension of the
• 33:39
  injury. Like the movie's internal logic
• 33:42
  doesn't isn't consistent. Yeah, Yeah, there are a few
• 33:47
  times like that. And also why do they lose the
• 33:50
  stuff when a person dies? Like why can't that person's
• 33:53
  vile just be collected as well? Why does the percentage go back
• 33:56
  down to 0? That I I like it as a device in
• 34:01
  the movie, like a writing device that, you know, like it's cool.
• 34:05
  I appreciate it. But I guess, yeah, like if you
• 34:07
  think maybe it's just their own rules that they set for
• 34:10
  themselves, it's like. Yeah, maybe just like, you know,
• 34:14
  evil company bastards type of. Yeah, you know, like, you know,
• 34:18
  we'll still collect the shit. But you know what?
• 34:20
  I really want to, like, put the pressure on them.
• 34:22
  Yeah, Yeah. OK, ugly.
• 34:26
  Ugly. I just had everybody in this
• 34:30
  movie except for Nick and Tony suck.
• 34:32
  Yeah. Everybody is super willing to
• 34:34
  sell out Greg and that one moment where he got tortured
• 34:38
  hard and was incapacitated and well, it's just like fucking
• 34:42
  keep killing them. They.
• 34:43
  Don't stop Tara. Like they're aghast at her, but
• 34:48
  they don't stop her at any point.
• 34:50
  They're just like, and she's like, what?
• 34:52
  I thought we were torturing them like.
• 34:54
  Yeah, yeah. It's just like there's a lot of
• 34:58
  bad people in this year. I I respected Tony the most.
• 35:02
  Yes, I think yeah, Tony is probably my favorite character.
• 35:07
  It's just like Nope, all y'all know yeah, yeah, I think my ugly
• 35:15
  is you know that. So Big Pharma in general,
• 35:20
  there's a lot of commentary we could have about it that would
• 35:24
  probably be like a whole other podcast on its own, but.
• 35:27
  We've I feel like we've touched on a few times with some of the
• 35:30
  movies we've discussed. Yes, And you know, I just like
• 35:34
  if it came out that this was the thing that was actually
• 35:37
  happening, it would be disgusting.
• 35:39
  But also, would any of us be shocked?
• 35:42
  No, probably not, right? I'm so confused about the thing
• 35:45
  that's going on here. Are they using the pain from
• 35:49
  them to use that chemical to make pills?
• 35:52
  Yes. OK.
• 35:54
  Very powerful pills. Are they actually collecting
• 35:58
  like juices from the pain? Is that a real thing?
• 36:02
  I I don't. I don't think that this is how
• 36:06
  this works. Like you, you get a little bit
• 36:09
  of pain, like you leak a little. I don't understand.
• 36:13
  It is kind of confusing. It doesn't make any sense
• 36:15
  actually, if you start to think about it a little bit.
• 36:18
  Yeah, it. No, this is a movie you can't
• 36:20
  think about too hard because you stop enjoying it.
• 36:23
  Yeah, yeah. OK, absurd.
• 36:27
  Absurd. I have the the way that the vile
• 36:31
  theme, I'll just call it the vile theme, the way that it's
• 36:33
  used in this movie. I think about it sometimes.
• 36:38
  Anytime, any time. A monument.
• 36:42
  Happens. It's just like, and it's always
• 36:49
  slow motion, silence, everything like that.
• 36:51
  It's just like any anything, anything of importance happens.
• 36:56
  It's so funny. And you're like, this is all
• 36:58
  this song is, is these notes. And then at the end we get
• 37:01
  lyrics. Yeah, we got.
• 37:02
  Lyrics. I couldn't believe it whenever I
• 37:04
  heard somebody singing. It's so funny.
• 37:08
  It's just, oh man, it just made it.
• 37:11
  It kind of makes the movie a little bit and it's extremely
• 37:14
  hilarious for me. OK, my favorite.
• 37:17
  It's just a little moment, but I love it so much every time
• 37:21
  there's a point where Tony punches Tara.
• 37:24
  Yeah, and it knocks. Her out and she hits the floor
• 37:27
  and from the next room you just hear a little beep.
• 37:31
  Just a punch, you know, I, I think it would be really
• 37:35
  interesting to see like how like I, I would like to have, I would
• 37:39
  like to see them have fun where they'd be like, OK, how much?
• 37:42
  Well, I'm going to punch you with all my strength right here.
• 37:44
  I want to see how much my hardest punch will move the bar.
• 37:48
  I don't like the the statistician in me wants to like
• 37:51
  measure. You could have plot out how much
• 37:54
  percentage you get for different pains.
• 37:56
  You could have I. Want.
• 37:57
  To run. Yeah, like what's the like?
• 37:59
  What different variables affect your pain percentages like?
• 38:03
  This movie, if you wanted to take in another direction, could
• 38:06
  have been like Jackass, where it's like people just like
• 38:09
  hurting themselves and they're just having fun.
• 38:11
  You know what I mean? VR.
• 38:12
  Sequel, please just put the Jackass Boys on this house.
• 38:15
  They don't know it's the Jackass.
• 38:17
  They're just like, oh, OK. And they're like, oh, OK, here
• 38:19
  we go. Weird.
• 38:21
  Yeah, Aaron would be the Greg. Yes, Aaron would be the first
• 38:26
  one they'd tied out. Yeah, OK.
• 38:31
  All right, so let's rate it. I'll give it a 6/6.
• 38:37
  I'm gonna give it an 8. It's a kind of mental 8 but.
• 38:41
  It's a fun movie, I like it. I I am never mad whenever you
• 38:45
  say you want to put a vial on, but I am.
• 38:47
  Sometimes you do say it. Really.
• 38:49
  Sometimes I'm caught off guard. Every day you almost always
• 38:51
  agree though. Yeah, I mean, it's like, I like
• 38:54
  the movie. It's it's fun, but realistically
• 38:57
  speaking, it's a six. OK, I like Wrong Turn 5 and I
• 39:00
  wrote it, rated it a 5, so. Yeah.
• 39:02
  Yeah. All right.
• 39:04
  So that's 7. 7/7. Yeah.
• 39:10
  Can I tell everybody a quick story, please?
• 39:13
  Remember that my husband works with numbers for a living.
• 39:16
  Last night I was trying to remember because if you can
• 39:19
  hear, I sound a lot better, and that's because I'm on
• 39:21
  prescription drugs now. Oh, yeah.
• 39:23
  And I was trying to figure out when my next dosage need to be.
• 39:26
  So I said, what is 8 + 6? And Travis very confidently says
• 39:30
  24. I was like, really?
• 39:33
  Because I was just trying to get like a second opinion to make
• 39:36
  sure I did the math correctly. In my head he goes what, you
• 39:38
  don't believe me? And I was like, it just doesn't
• 39:40
  seem right. He was like, no, I'm positive
• 39:44
  it's 24 and I was like 8 and 6. I.
• 39:48
  Thought you said 18. OK.
• 39:52
  I was right in my way. So OK, thank you for reminding
• 39:58
  people. Yeah.
• 39:59
  We're not reminding, just telling.
• 40:00
  Yeah. OK.
• 40:01
  We're reminding people that I suck at math.
• 40:03
  Yeah. Now that you do it
• 40:04
  professionally, yeah, don't be ready to talk about the movie.
• 40:07
  Let's do this. OK, the root of violence is
• 40:11
  science without humanity. Mahatma Gandhi.
• 40:14
  Got to start it off with the Gandhi quote.
• 40:16
  Got to start, No other way to do.
• 40:18
  It, just like all of my tattoo artwork, started off with the
• 40:21
  Gandhi quote, Yeah. So yeah, we get that, and then
• 40:26
  we get a man strapped to a table and there's somebody.
• 40:30
  I wrote Gurney just because I don't think you get to use the
• 40:32
  word Gurney often in. Life.
• 40:34
  If you wanna throw around fancy terms like that, go.
• 40:37
  Ahead, I don't feel like Gurney is a fancy word.
• 40:40
  It's a big word, it. Sounds rusty to me.
• 40:42
  It's pretty big, yeah. Got somebody dressed like a
• 40:45
  nurse, too. Yeah.
• 40:46
  Not, I'm not. I didn't want to write a nurse
• 40:48
  because I didn't want to give them that credit.
• 40:50
  I don't want them to be a nurse. They're they're definitely doing
• 40:53
  this. Yes, I feel like this is like a
• 40:55
  hostile situation where she like put on the garb to like live out
• 41:00
  a sick fantasy. Yeah, I was wondering if that
• 41:03
  was the woman that kidnaps. Them.
• 41:06
  I don't think so. OK.
• 41:08
  She was like, and it was a it's a different actress, too.
• 41:10
  Oh, it is, yeah. OK.
• 41:12
  So there she's like, you know, performing what I refer to as
• 41:15
  non anesthetized surgery. Non anesthetized.
• 41:21
  Big words again. Anesthesia without that feeling
• 41:28
  you feel. OK, pain, hurt.
• 41:31
  Ow. Boo Boo.
• 41:35
  And I love this moment too. This should have been part of my
• 41:37
  absurd instead of just making a fake box.
• 41:41
  It says salt on it. They used a name brand salt and
• 41:45
  it blurted out. Yeah, I noticed that too.
• 41:48
  I was like, I feel. Like it probably would have been
• 41:49
  easier on your budget to just like, get a box and write salt.
• 41:53
  It almost kind of looked like it was out of focus, but then I
• 41:56
  paid attention. I was like Nope, they just
• 41:58
  blurted. Yep, just turn it around even.
• 42:01
  Yeah. They're creative, like the
• 42:03
  Hallmark movies. Yes, absolutely.
• 42:05
  Just turn it like we we get the gist.
• 42:07
  It's salt you're torturing. We get it.
• 42:09
  It's fine. Yeah.
• 42:10
  We knew what we were signing up for with this movie.
• 42:13
  Yeah, that was really. Funny, there are pliers with a
• 42:15
  tooth on the cover that tells us everything when you do that.
• 42:19
  But we see the pills being made and packaged.
• 42:21
  We cut to two couples camping. Taylor is pregnant and scared to
• 42:25
  tell Nick, and Kai is trying to encourage her.
• 42:28
  Oh boy, they set this up so fast and yeah, hard.
• 42:31
  Like they don't ease into it. They're like, Oh my God, I got,
• 42:34
  I check in now I'm pregnant. Is that the second adjective?
• 42:37
  You really wanted to go with fast and.
• 42:43
  Yeah. So Taylor does always wakes up
• 42:46
  Nick and they play Would you rather, and I want us to do
• 42:48
  these two questions as well because it felt very tailored to
• 42:52
  our particular feelings. So the first one is, would you
• 42:57
  this one's medio, OK? Would you rather be trapped in a
• 43:01
  room with a bunch of snakes or with a bunch of giant spiders?
• 43:05
  Snakes? Yes, absolutely.
• 43:06
  And that's what Nick chooses as well.
• 43:09
  Then he asked Taylor, would she rather be trapped in a room
• 43:13
  that's freezing, like below freezing.
• 43:15
  We're super, super hot, like on fire.
• 43:17
  And she says, do I get a blanket?
• 43:18
  And he says you get a blanket in the hot room.
• 43:20
  And she chooses the hot room, which is also what I would
• 43:22
  choose. I've heard that if you get
• 43:26
  hypothermia, you have a moment towards the end where you get
• 43:31
  really warm all over. Yeah.
• 43:33
  Which is like a peaceful way to go.
• 43:35
  Yeah, if you ever get really, really cold, if you're ever in
• 43:38
  like a blow freezing situation and you start to feel very
• 43:40
  comfortable, that's bad. Yeah.
• 43:43
  So I would choose that personally because, you know, at
• 43:45
  least you'd get comfort. Taylor has a really shitty
• 43:50
  dolphin tattoo and I'm sorry if that's the actress's actual body
• 43:54
  art. I really hope it was just the
• 43:57
  makeup department was like, oh, we set up this whole koi, fish,
• 44:01
  dolphin, Japanese wave thing. It's really bad if they did,
• 44:04
  yeah. It's it's really, it makes it.
• 44:06
  Looks like a palm tree. I forget the the character's
• 44:10
  name, but on Bob's Burgers she's got like a tattoo on her
• 44:16
  shoulder and she loses a bunch of weight and it like changes
• 44:19
  shape. I remember that in an early
• 44:20
  season. That's what this tattoo makes
• 44:22
  video. It's really bad.
• 44:23
  It's pretty bad, yeah. So Turny jumps into the cuddle
• 44:28
  puddle and says they gotta get going by 5 cuz they all go to
• 44:32
  work and then Kai also joins in on the puddle cuz they're all
• 44:35
  friends. Yeah.
• 44:36
  And you know, I guess that's the thing that.
• 44:39
  Been there, done that, yeah. You know, I actually have done
• 44:42
  that. Yeah, I've done that.
• 44:43
  Cuddle bottles. Yeah, I've cuddle puddles plenty
• 44:46
  of times. So we see them getting back in
• 44:50
  the car and then we see Kai run up to Taylor real quick and slip
• 44:53
  some pills in her boots. Miss Cotton, she says, and that
• 44:57
  I, I've meant to look this up and I forgot in my journey of
• 45:01
  trying to find any literally any information about this movie is
• 45:05
  Oxycontin. Is that like a brand name?
• 45:07
  And that's why they had to say specifically, Ms. Cotton.
• 45:09
  I don't think you can get sued for saying Oxycontin no.
• 45:14
  Yeah, so. No, I don't.
• 45:17
  I'm not familiar with this drug. Apparently it's a painkiller
• 45:20
  though. Yeah, She's like, I don't
• 45:22
  understand why she's trying to hide this from.
• 45:24
  Is she abusing? Yeah.
• 45:26
  Why is she hiding it? They're like, it's also
• 45:28
  interesting that they're quick release pills cuz they're in the
• 45:30
  little capsules, whereas like the tablets are the time
• 45:34
  release. Yeah, it's interesting.
• 45:37
  Yeah, they don't really. There's like really nothing
• 45:41
  focused on this. I'm really curious about what
• 45:44
  her deal with this is and why she's why she's hiding it from
• 45:47
  Tony. Well, because he wouldn't
• 45:48
  approve. And we kind of get the
• 45:49
  impression that Tony is the responsible one because he's the
• 45:52
  one that like, well, OK, we got to get going because we got, we
• 45:54
  got to be, you know, home for work.
• 45:56
  Like he's the one that doesn't want to sell out Greg.
• 45:59
  Yeah, he's the cool guy. Yeah.
• 46:00
  Cool guy, Tony. Yeah.
• 46:02
  Yeah. All right, so they arrive at a
• 46:05
  gas station. No, the most poorly lit gas
• 46:08
  station. Well, to be fair, it is 2:00 AM
• 46:10
  and I know this very distinct feeling of waking up.
• 46:13
  I gotta go pee real quick. We're at a gas station.
• 46:16
  It's the middle of the night. Also though, just the
• 46:18
  surrounding area and I was it's just black.
• 46:23
  But then we see them drive off here in a little bit.
• 46:25
  There's like they don't even have St. lights.
• 46:28
  There's like some tiny little lights, but they just like light
• 46:31
  up just that immediate area. It's really, really poorly.
• 46:34
  I'm getting a very rural vibe with.
• 46:37
  It I am from rural like this is it's not that bad usually I got
• 46:44
  these things I got bright ass pole was next to my parents
• 46:47
  house where I grew up. Two, this little strip right
• 46:53
  here next to a functioning gas station has nothing.
• 46:57
  OK, just just. Pointing out OK, so anyways,
• 47:01
  Taylor goes to go pee. While that's happening, Nick is
• 47:04
  trying to gas up and a woman approaches saying that she ran
• 47:07
  out of gas down the road and needs a lift.
• 47:09
  Yeah, like, it's kind of one of those.
• 47:11
  Like, she could walk back because it's only a mile, and
• 47:13
  she clearly walked down this way to get her gas.
• 47:15
  But like, wouldn't it be nice if you gave me a ride back?
• 47:18
  Since it's 2:00 AM And Taylor comes back learns about this,
• 47:22
  she says there's some strange cougar and Nick calls her barely
• 47:28
  a bobcat, which I thought was a funny.
• 47:32
  Yes, yeah. Yeah, she's just basically,
• 47:34
  like, I get it from both parties.
• 47:36
  Like it's weird to just invite a stranger into your car without
• 47:39
  asking the other three people that are going to be in the car.
• 47:42
  But I also get it from Nick's perspective, like it's a
• 47:46
  seemingly harmless person just wanting to ride a mile down the
• 47:49
  road to her car. It tracked because she had her
• 47:52
  own gas can. Yeah.
• 47:54
  And yeah, you're you got her outnumbered, so theoretically if
• 47:58
  she tried to pull anything you should be able to get her, but
• 48:02
  she outsmarts them. Yeah, So they get in the car.
• 48:05
  She makes Taylor hold the gas can.
• 48:08
  I noticed that. And then Tony says she smells
• 48:11
  good. And she goes, oh, I designed
• 48:12
  perfume. That's what I do.
• 48:13
  So when they get to the car, oh, and it's awkward.
• 48:16
  This is only a vial, right? But they're like, everybody's
• 48:19
  just kind of sitting there awkwardly.
• 48:20
  And so Nick tries to turn on the station, and this, like, really
• 48:23
  fuzzy heavy metal comes on. And Diane's like, I love this
• 48:29
  song. And then Taylor just turns it
• 48:32
  off. And they get to the car and she
• 48:33
  goes, let me get you girls some samples.
• 48:35
  And Taylor, like, is furious at this point.
• 48:38
  She's like, I just want to drive off.
• 48:39
  And it's like, we're just being polite at this point.
• 48:40
  They could just drive off. Should've.
• 48:42
  Yeah, they should've been like, no, thanks, got to go.
• 48:44
  And because they don't, we get, I think this moment is actually
• 48:47
  really effectively scary because all of a sudden she just like
• 48:50
  pops up and she's got a gas mask on and she's blasting them.
• 48:53
  Yeah, it's pretty, the effective scene.
• 48:56
  So they wake up groggy and things are a little fuzzy.
• 49:00
  They got people just talking about like, should we do it?
• 49:02
  I don't know. How do we even know this video
• 49:04
  is real? We've got to get to 100% and
• 49:07
  then Greg's like, all right, well, we're gonna.
• 49:10
  He's like, I'm gonna make the. Decision.
• 49:11
  And he just comes up and he just pulls off one of Kai's
• 49:14
  fingernails. You know, we get bum, bum, bum,
• 49:17
  bum, bum, bum. It's like silence and it's Tony.
• 49:24
  He fucking rages out of his restraints and goes over there
• 49:27
  and punches Greg. OK.
• 49:30
  And clearly, this house is designed for them to be able to
• 49:33
  torture each other. And the fact that this chair was
• 49:36
  so not sturdy makes me think it wasn't meant to be like a
• 49:39
  restraint chair. It was meant to be like AWWE,
• 49:43
  like, yeah. It's just so funny, like chaos
• 49:47
  erupts and everybody's just fighting and.
• 49:50
  That's the background. But we don't get to hear it
• 49:53
  because we're just hearing. They get done in Beast Boys like
• 49:59
  you. So Greg, well, first of all,
• 50:03
  Greg is like, listen, we just, we had this video that said that
• 50:06
  we got to torture each other and we're trying to see if it was
• 50:09
  real. And Tony goes by ripping off one
• 50:11
  of my girlfriend's fingernails. I mean, he's got a point.
• 50:15
  That was they had a right to just, he had a right to Hulk out
• 50:19
  and start smashing. Yeah, right.
• 50:21
  Like, I mean, just pinch somebody real quick and see what
• 50:24
  happens, you know, like. Yeah, he couldn't pinch
• 50:27
  themselves. There's so.
• 50:28
  Many easier ways to go about this than just like, alright,
• 50:31
  we're gonna RIP out some fingernails.
• 50:33
  I'm not gonna lie, the entire time I was singing just pinch
• 50:35
  pinch and fuck and hurts just like pinch and twist.
• 50:38
  Yeah, purple that nerple, yeah. You'll you'll get some beeps.
• 50:42
  You'll get some good beeps from that.
• 50:45
  So yeah, they go up and they watch the video and we see Maria
• 50:48
  Olson. And my weird superpower is that
• 50:51
  I can immediately identify Maria Olson anytime she appears on
• 50:54
  screen. And I always go, oh, it's that
• 50:55
  Lady from file. And Travis never believes me
• 50:57
  until he looks at him, because that is in fact that Lady from
• 51:00
  file. How often are we seeing her?
• 51:02
  It happens more often. She's got like a huge fucking
• 51:05
  filmography. Character actor.
• 51:06
  Yeah, Yeah, she's a character actor.
• 51:08
  She's a that guy. Yeah.
• 51:10
  So. But yeah, she's like, welcome to
• 51:11
  my house. You must torture each other.
• 51:14
  And then you get to leave and they all believe.
• 51:17
  That they just, yeah. I mean, at that point, I think I
• 51:21
  probably would too, honestly. And they've got 22 hours from
• 51:26
  when they begin, which means that Greg started this
• 51:29
  countdown. He's every person you don't want
• 51:31
  to be trapped with in a SAW game.
• 51:33
  Yeah, because he just started the timer before anybody had a
• 51:35
  chance to learn the rules. Yep, he fucking sucks.
• 51:38
  People are mad, so they talk amongst themselves and they're
• 51:42
  like, OK, let's split it out evenly, we'll share the load.
• 51:46
  Yeah, so it's between nine of them at this point, so they, it
• 51:55
  would make it easier, You know, a little over 11% per person.
• 51:59
  Lisa's fucking terrified. And Julian says I'm not
• 52:01
  splitting anything, this is all Greg's fault.
• 52:04
  And everybody's like, wait, you guys know each other?
• 52:06
  And then the group votes and they the majority comes in favor
• 52:10
  of splitting and Julian says fuck this and rips out his
• 52:13
  little thing and it releases the like toxins or poison or
• 52:17
  whatever it is and he dies just folds and the little percentages
• 52:21
  that he got in the melee earlier disappear.
• 52:26
  Did that actually show it disappearing there?
• 52:28
  OK. Because it went beep beep beep
• 52:30
  boop boop boop boop boop. OK.
• 52:33
  Yeah, interesting. So then Tara decides that she
• 52:38
  says that the men should step up.
• 52:40
  And Greg is like, no, we're we're all doing this together.
• 52:44
  Yeah. And Sam keeps trying to keep
• 52:46
  everybody on task. And then Kyle is like, hey,
• 52:50
  Speaking of being on task, let's make Greg go first.
• 52:52
  Since he pulled out my fucking fingernail.
• 52:54
  And I were just like, that's fair.
• 52:55
  And Greg's like, I can't really argue with that, I guess.
• 52:58
  Yeah, He's, like, trying to think of something.
• 53:00
  But by that point he was trapped down to the table.
• 53:02
  My favorite running thing in this movie is Tony is constantly
• 53:05
  getting his revenge cuz he he sucks up here he's like this is
• 53:10
  mine. So it first they tie him up to a
• 53:15
  chair and they all just like punch him for a long.
• 53:18
  Time they just pummel them. Yeah, They don't have a game
• 53:21
  plan. They're just like, let's just
• 53:22
  start whacking them. It's like the scene in Office
• 53:25
  Space where they, like, break the printer.
• 53:28
  Yeah, except the printer is Greg.
• 53:31
  Yeah, pretty much. Instead of like a sick needle
• 53:33
  drop we have. Yeah, it's really that is a sick
• 53:39
  needle job. So it's an hour later, Greg is
• 53:46
  bleeding but he it's not working fast enough basically.
• 53:50
  They only have 7.53%. Yeah, so he's only halfway
• 53:54
  through. They they all need to get up to
• 53:55
  14%. This is the point where Beast
• 53:58
  Boy or Sam I, I was writing him as Beast Boy and Sam
• 54:03
  interchangeably, but he's like, you know what?
• 54:05
  Same chemicals are released whenever we have sex so maybe we
• 54:08
  could start having an orgy and then Tara shuts that down hard.
• 54:12
  And you know what? I think the movie doesn't linger
• 54:15
  on this point, but I kind of like that because that is also
• 54:20
  icky and coercive and assaultive.
• 54:22
  It is putting it like making people do that, yeah.
• 54:26
  And also, if you're doing it under duress, you're probably
• 54:28
  not going to release the same kind of endorphins.
• 54:31
  Probably not, but I guess if you really had to, you can just go
• 54:35
  and take care of yourself, you know what I mean?
• 54:38
  Oh my God, now I'm picturing that scene from Green Inferno.
• 54:42
  Yeah, it's just like in the corner, just whacking off.
• 54:45
  Yeah, yeah. All right.
• 54:49
  So yeah, they shut that down and then they get Greg tied up to a
• 54:52
  table now to continue his thrashing.
• 54:54
  And they're like, we'll stop at 14%.
• 54:56
  And then Tara leans over and she goes, I remember you.
• 54:59
  And she's basically his eyebrow interrogating him.
• 55:04
  Yeah, cuz she was like, who are you?
• 55:06
  What are you now? Kneecap.
• 55:08
  Broken shin. Oh God man.
• 55:10
  OK yeah she the kneecap 1 upsets me probably the most.
• 55:15
  She takes a screwdriver to his kneecap and like just pops it
• 55:19
  right. They show it.
• 55:21
  They don't show the kneecap move but they show her like dig it in
• 55:24
  there. Yeah, hoof.
• 55:26
  Even if it was just digging like under like into the Patella or
• 55:29
  tendon, that's. But the kneecap, Oh my God, that
• 55:32
  just makes me that. That's a squirming.
• 55:34
  That got me squirming right there.
• 55:35
  I'm gonna be honest, when I swore my ACL, the first thing I
• 55:38
  thought was I was like, oh God, did I dislocate my kneecap?
• 55:42
  Like, oh really? Cuz that I've heard stories
• 55:44
  where people's kneecaps get like shifted and I was more scared of
• 55:47
  that. When I saw my kneecap with
• 55:49
  someplace I was like I can deal with literally anything else.
• 55:51
  If my kneecap had been over there, I probably would have
• 55:54
  passed out. I might have too.
• 55:59
  So he gets to his 14% and everybody's just kind of looking
• 56:02
  at her like she's a maniac and she's like, what?
• 56:04
  We said we were gonna do this. I don't get why everybody's
• 56:08
  looking at me like I'm doing something wrong.
• 56:09
  Yeah, like she's like, we voted on this.
• 56:11
  Like nobody voted on fucking massacring his legs.
• 56:14
  They're like, we have to carry him out now.
• 56:15
  He can't fucking walk. And Tony's like, we need to do
• 56:18
  this smartly because I don't want to end up like that.
• 56:20
  Do you? This good foreshadowing for her
• 56:23
  later. Honestly, from this alone, they
• 56:25
  should have been like, but you're getting it.
• 56:28
  Yeah, it's happening to you. So Sam suggests maybe now we'll
• 56:33
  do half and half instead of all at once.
• 56:36
  That way they don't completely wear themselves out because, and
• 56:38
  that's another interesting thought, gives them time to
• 56:40
  recuperate. And also it doesn't leave the
• 56:42
  last person there having to torture themselves, basically.
• 56:46
  Yeah. And they say no more major leg
• 56:49
  injuries. Yeah, so, and they also
• 56:54
  recognize like they're like, well, maybe we shouldn't even do
• 56:57
  it at all. Maybe they, like, are just lying
• 56:58
  to us. And then Nick is like, well, we
• 57:01
  all have that. 2nd vial that's full.
• 57:03
  Yeah, they tricked us before. We can't really take them on
• 57:05
  ourselves because we're stupid. And yeah, we have a lethal dose
• 57:10
  here, so. So Lisa suggests that they draw
• 57:12
  to see who goes next. The only like helpfulness Lisa
• 57:17
  really has throughout this. Yeah.
• 57:19
  So they go and they smash a plate and they use stars blood
• 57:22
  to number this, which I. Thought I thought it was kind of
• 57:24
  icky. I thought it was icky.
• 57:26
  I thought it was funny. And I also like the way like
• 57:28
  when her blood was drying up, she like bleep.
• 57:31
  She's like running her finger down.
• 57:32
  I thought this was really well shot, honestly.
• 57:35
  And we get the. Yeah, honestly, I thought like
• 57:40
  do the whoever draws the smallest 1, you know, everybody
• 57:44
  reaching, pick a Shard, whoever's got the tiniest one
• 57:47
  goes 1st and then go in that order, they get the tiniest.
• 57:50
  And here's the thing. Instead I was like, these pieces
• 57:52
  aren't the same. Kai has had a distinct
• 57:54
  advantage. And you know what number Kai
• 57:56
  ends up drawing? 7.
• 57:57
  She ends up going last. So the people, the order that
• 58:01
  they're going to go and Sam gets one, Nick gets 2, Lisa gets 3,
• 58:06
  Taylor is 4, Tara is 5, Tony is 6 and Kai is 7.
• 58:12
  Like Greg, he like everybody draws and then one is the last.
• 58:15
  He just kinda looks around, like come on.
• 58:17
  That's Sam the actor. Sam fucked.
• 58:19
  It's so confusing, I know. Beastop Yeah.
• 58:23
  Sam goes down to the basin and he takes off his shirt and turns
• 58:26
  like, why are you undressing? It's my favorite shirt.
• 58:29
  Fair. That's.
• 58:30
  What I Yeah, I get that. Also, like if you're gonna burn
• 58:33
  him with an iron, like he should take off his shirt, you don't
• 58:38
  want to melt the yeah to your skin.
• 58:40
  That's worse. It I also he's like all scarred
• 58:44
  up, which makes me think this guy probably signed up for this.
• 58:47
  He's probably like sadist or something.
• 58:50
  I like how tires like is he even going to feel anything?
• 58:53
  Is it sadist or masochist? Masochist.
• 58:56
  Where you prefer the pain. Yeah, OK.
• 58:58
  Sadist is doing it to other people.
• 59:00
  Well, he's both. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 59:03
  He's a set, a masochist. I thought it was really funny
• 59:05
  that, like, I, I didn't expect it and I didn't know what he was
• 59:08
  doing at first. But like, Tony goes over to the
• 59:11
  iron, picks it up and spits on it.
• 59:13
  I was like, oh, he's testing to see if it's hot like that.
• 59:16
  That's one way to do it. Just spit on it.
• 59:18
  Yeah. I whenever I'm like ironing, I
• 59:20
  just kind of hold my hand up near.
• 59:22
  It yeah, I just like, you know, see like I'm hot it's generating
• 59:25
  me there we go he's like. Don't worry bro, I'm totally
• 59:30
  clean. Yeah, you know what?
• 59:33
  It's gonna go on. It's like I'm melting spit
• 59:35
  inside your skin now. It's I will be with you forever.
• 59:40
  And so he makes them promise not to mess with his genitals.
• 59:44
  And Tony's like, I think we can all agree that we should leave
• 59:46
  genitals alone. And he's like, I don't want
• 59:47
  anything to happen in my face. And Tara's like, why are we all
• 59:51
  getting so vain all of a sudden? And Tony's like, it's not vain
• 59:54
  to want my balls to be left alone.
• 59:56
  And it's like, we can leave your face alone.
• 59:58
  I'm sure we can do that, Lisa. Like.
• 59:59
  Yeah, I think we can all find ways.
• 1:00:02
  I think honestly, it's almost even like Tara signed up for
• 1:00:05
  this. She's got some.
• 1:00:07
  She's Betty Gilpin in the hunt. She's.
• 1:00:11
  Yeah, yeah, she, she sucks. She but the actor does a really
• 1:00:17
  good job of making her hateable. Yes.
• 1:00:19
  I I She's probably the best performer.
• 1:00:21
  Yeah, she doesn't feel over the top.
• 1:00:24
  Like, no, she's just, as Lisa refers to her later, an evil
• 1:00:27
  bitch. She sells it super.
• 1:00:29
  Well, yeah, So they do the iron on his stomach for a really long
• 1:00:33
  time. I'm like, Oh my God, it's going
• 1:00:35
  to melt his skin. This is terrifying.
• 1:00:37
  Please stop it. And when they do, he's at 6%.
• 1:00:40
  So I got to get him another percent and a half, which takes
• 1:00:43
  2 fingernails. So this is we're starting to get
• 1:00:46
  some of the data points here. Yep.
• 1:00:48
  Yeah. And then he just kind of like,
• 1:00:51
  slowly walks his way out of the room and then goes to sit down
• 1:00:55
  in the chair and Nick follows him.
• 1:00:58
  Nick thanks him for having a level head and they discussed
• 1:01:02
  their plans for after this. And Sam's like, I'll probably
• 1:01:05
  just go back to work and Nick's like, you love your job that
• 1:01:07
  much. He goes Nope.
• 1:01:09
  What else are you supposed to do?
• 1:01:10
  Nick, Come on. Like, oh, you're, you're still
• 1:01:12
  going to work after this? Like what?
• 1:01:15
  Yeah, like. What are you going to do, Nick?
• 1:01:18
  I'm going to sue the drug company.
• 1:01:19
  Yeah, I'm going to beat Big Pharma.
• 1:01:24
  OK, so. Nick wants to do his in the
• 1:01:26
  bedroom, Taylor's in the kitchen and she's crying.
• 1:01:29
  And then Lisa's talking to her and like, trying to bolster up.
• 1:01:32
  And then, you know, she starts crying and she's scared and
• 1:01:34
  Taylor gets snippy with her and Lisa's like, Jesus, I'm scared
• 1:01:38
  too. And I'm going next and Taylor's
• 1:01:40
  like, sorry, it's just not pregnant so.
• 1:01:42
  Real convenient timing to bring this up.
• 1:01:44
  Yeah. She should have brought.
• 1:01:46
  If she didn't chicken out before, it wouldn't seem fake.
• 1:01:48
  But now, like the only person there that can believe her is
• 1:01:50
  Kai. Yeah, Kai knew beforehand.
• 1:01:52
  But like, if you tell people now I'm pregnant, like nobody's
• 1:01:55
  going to. It's like saw six.
• 1:01:57
  Yeah. In the circle, the carousel.
• 1:01:59
  Yeah. Like, oh, OK.
• 1:02:01
  You're just saying that because you went out of.
• 1:02:03
  It Yeah, she remembers that she's got the drugs in her boot,
• 1:02:06
  so she puts them in her mouth and then goes kisses and
• 1:02:10
  transfers them into Nick's mouth and says to just trust her.
• 1:02:14
  Lisa lets them know that Greg's awake, but he can't stand, so
• 1:02:17
  they're going to have to figure out a way to get him out of
• 1:02:19
  there. That's where the deleted scene
• 1:02:20
  before was, where he just yells at her face.
• 1:02:23
  Tyra suggests that they all just do their first half and then
• 1:02:27
  take out the rest on him and then leave him there.
• 1:02:30
  Kai agrees because she doesn't want to go through what he went
• 1:02:33
  through, and Taylor agrees on hers and Nick's behalf.
• 1:02:36
  And Sam is like, yeah. He just, he's just shrugs and
• 1:02:39
  then Tony's like, you know what? Fucking disappointed and all
• 1:02:42
  y'all are cowards. Yep.
• 1:02:44
  So they start on Nick somehow there's we're down to 13 hours
• 1:02:47
  left. How much time has been like
• 1:02:50
  this? They waste a lot of time.
• 1:02:52
  I don't know like. 9 hours have passed, and in that 9 hours all
• 1:02:56
  they've done is torture Beast Boy and break a plate.
• 1:03:00
  Oh, and Greg. Yeah.
• 1:03:01
  And Greg? That's it.
• 1:03:02
  Yeah, they they are really wasting time.
• 1:03:05
  God, you know who would thrive in this environment?
• 1:03:07
  So ask motherfucking chef. Yep, and Ricky and.
• 1:03:13
  Ricky and Papa Ricky so they they don't get him up as fast as
• 1:03:21
  the others but they do finally get up to 25%.
• 1:03:24
  Yeah, like they're like, I don't know what the fuck is wrong.
• 1:03:26
  With they're like, is this going to keep going?
• 1:03:27
  Getting harder and harder, like they're worried that this game
• 1:03:30
  is rigged. They're very.
• 1:03:31
  Nervous Taylor should have spoken up, but she stays silent.
• 1:03:34
  She's afraid to tell people. Lisa runs off and Tara and Sam
• 1:03:38
  go to get her and they have to restrain her because she is
• 1:03:43
  fighting really hard. We don't see any of her torture
• 1:03:45
  scenes which almost feel like. I get that she's a fictional
• 1:03:49
  character, but it almost feels like a kindness to her to not.
• 1:03:53
  Am I? Am I remembering wrong?
• 1:03:54
  But did they actually get her face?
• 1:03:57
  I feel like I remember seeing her face being a little bit
• 1:03:59
  bloody bloody. They didn't respect her wishes.
• 1:04:02
  Because Nick was still recovering, he wasn't down there
• 1:04:05
  to protect her face. He was the only one that agreed,
• 1:04:08
  yeah, you know what? When everybody was like, let's
• 1:04:11
  just kill Greg. I would have been like, all
• 1:04:13
  right, all bets are off. I was gonna say I feel like Tony
• 1:04:15
  probably would have tried to protect her face and then she
• 1:04:18
  said let's kill Greg and he was like, fuck your.
• 1:04:20
  Face. Yep.
• 1:04:22
  So Taylor comes, she's cleaning up Nick and bandaging him.
• 1:04:26
  And she admits about the drugs. She'd forgotten that she had
• 1:04:29
  them, but she wanted to, you know, make it easier for him.
• 1:04:32
  He's like, you know, I don't agree about Greg.
• 1:04:34
  I'm not going to let anyone else touch him.
• 1:04:35
  And she's like, I'm pregnant. And he's like, and Tara is in
• 1:04:41
  the doorway and now saying that Lisa is done, and she overhears
• 1:04:45
  this. So we got to a group meeting and
• 1:04:47
  Tara is like, so now you're pregnant.
• 1:04:51
  It's awfully convenient. Yeah, I'll give her credit here.
• 1:04:53
  And. Lisa's like she still has to do
• 1:04:55
  it. I had to do it, so everybody has
• 1:04:56
  to do it. It's not like she's like super
• 1:04:58
  pregnant like she can maybe like, you know, like do what she
• 1:05:00
  did like here in a little bit, like hurt her arm or something,
• 1:05:03
  something like not too bad. Yeah, I.
• 1:05:07
  No, nobody's asking you to get your tummy kicked you.
• 1:05:09
  Know what I mean? We're not pushing you down the
• 1:05:11
  stairs. Yeah.
• 1:05:13
  I thought that was a dark joke. I'm sorry.
• 1:05:14
  It's dark, but this is a dark movie.
• 1:05:16
  Dark shit's happening here. And then, you know, they're also
• 1:05:20
  like, but what are we supposed to do?
• 1:05:22
  And then she goes, oh, or no, Nick is like, I'm gonna take her
• 1:05:26
  spot so that what she doesn't have to do.
• 1:05:27
  And they're like, well, we don't have time for that because it
• 1:05:29
  took five hours to get 7 1/2% out of you.
• 1:05:32
  And I was like, oh, tell them why about that.
• 1:05:36
  And so then she has to come clean about the pills.
• 1:05:37
  And then Greg's like. You have drugs.
• 1:05:40
  He is so mad that nobody's told him about the painkillers
• 1:05:43
  because he's just a miserable. One, and now he earned them and
• 1:05:47
  he just takes all of them, all of what's in the bag.
• 1:05:52
  That's probably why he dies in a little bit.
• 1:05:54
  Tara and Sam try to stop him because they're like, no, we
• 1:05:57
  need him to be like lucid. And Nick's like, no, I don't
• 1:06:03
  care what everybody else except for me and Tony voted on.
• 1:06:06
  We're not going to torture Greg until he's almost dead and
• 1:06:09
  Greg's like y'all motherfuckers. And then this is where Tara
• 1:06:12
  starts like freaking out and Tony punches her and she falls
• 1:06:16
  down. I get a little beep and then Kai
• 1:06:19
  says that her and Tony will split Taylor's with her, which I
• 1:06:23
  think is a really nice thing, a nice gesture, and I think Kai is
• 1:06:28
  a good friend. Despite the fact that as they
• 1:06:31
  all go to dunk their hands in this, they've got like a broth
• 1:06:34
  pot full of boiling water and they go to dunk their hands in
• 1:06:38
  and Kai chickens out at the last second.
• 1:06:40
  I think it was a fight or flight instinct.
• 1:06:42
  I think she couldn't get herself to do it.
• 1:06:45
  Really I feel like the only reason they didn't they never
• 1:06:48
  have her have any pain in this movie because like they need to
• 1:06:52
  kill her off without getting the a deduction on the progress.
• 1:06:57
  Yeah, she got some percent from her fingernail at the beginning.
• 1:07:03
  Yeah, that was so, yeah, I think that was really the only reason
• 1:07:07
  for a writing perspective. But as a character perspective
• 1:07:11
  fucker. Like this moment of Tony and
• 1:07:14
  Taylor, they hold hands and they dunk their hands in together and
• 1:07:17
  their plan is just to keep going until they hit the 7%.
• 1:07:21
  But then Tyra comes in with a knife, slashes at Tony's back.
• 1:07:24
  He fumbles backwards, pulls the broth pot down for him, which if
• 1:07:28
  you don't know what a broth pot is, it's a tall fucking pot.
• 1:07:30
  So they're like like. Yeah, and he's got boiling water
• 1:07:34
  poured all over him now and again.
• 1:07:37
  Some foreshadowing because he gets hot water all over his
• 1:07:40
  genitals. He did.
• 1:07:42
  He did. Pooped them balls like Yep.
• 1:07:44
  They are. These eggs are fried.
• 1:07:49
  And this is where we see and some everybody has to come and
• 1:07:52
  restrain them. We've got 5 1/2 hours left and
• 1:07:55
  they are at 47%. Yeah, that really did ratchet up
• 1:07:58
  the percentage there, though. Yep.
• 1:08:00
  And Tara's tied up and they're like, so your little son got us
• 1:08:04
  almost halfway and she's like OK, good, OK, cool.
• 1:08:06
  So we're just going to do my 7% and then we'll just keep going
• 1:08:09
  with the plan and they're like going on with plans.
• 1:08:12
  We voted. Yeah, and you were awake, so we
• 1:08:16
  voted for you. So it was unanimous.
• 1:08:19
  And Tara's like, no, but it should be Greg because he sells
• 1:08:22
  these drugs and and she's like doing everything she can to
• 1:08:26
  cause chaos rock like Amadeus. Honestly my favorite thing
• 1:08:30
  before this. So is like they they did enough
• 1:08:33
  to get Greg just to prop him up in her face so he can be like
• 1:08:36
  weird. Yeah, I feel like Greg was like,
• 1:08:39
  I understand that it's gonna take a lot to carry me down to
• 1:08:42
  the basement and then back up afterwards, but I want to see
• 1:08:45
  this bitch tortured. I love this is one of the most
• 1:08:49
  satisfying parts of the movie. He's like, don't worry, I
• 1:08:51
  wouldn't do anything to you that you wouldn't do to me.
• 1:08:54
  Yeah, he was like, I got to be down.
• 1:08:55
  I got this sick ass villain line I got to say to her.
• 1:08:58
  Yeah, he was about to get his revenge, but then, And yeah, she
• 1:09:01
  causes that chaos. She breaks free from her
• 1:09:04
  restraint for a second, grabs a knife and starts slashing, and
• 1:09:07
  it ends up accidentally getting Kai across the throat.
• 1:09:14
  So they're all screaming in silence of this song that I
• 1:09:17
  think now has lyrics. This is where we get the lyrics
• 1:09:20
  because this is a big moment. And then they're the three
• 1:09:26
  remaining friends are crying over her body.
• 1:09:28
  And then Tony goes, she is mine. And everyone's like.
• 1:09:31
  Tony's Revenge Part 2. Tony's Revenge Part 2 and they
• 1:09:35
  start off by breaking her teeth. Cool, dude.
• 1:09:37
  Yeah, I like, it's satisfying. This is one of the ones where
• 1:09:41
  they don't move the camera and we see the action here.
• 1:09:44
  They take a wrench and they first stop to get her pipe.
• 1:09:47
  In her yeah mouth and then they hit her with a wrench a couple
• 1:09:49
  of. Times and they see her.
• 1:09:51
  Under her jaw. I thought they were good at
• 1:09:53
  throw it at first, no? It's almost like a cigarette
• 1:09:55
  punch type motion. Yeah.
• 1:09:57
  Yeah, so they do that, and she turns her head and she spits out
• 1:10:01
  teeth, boy. And then they take a cheese
• 1:10:05
  grater to her shoulder. Yeah.
• 1:10:07
  And then they pour a little paint thinner on it just to get
• 1:10:10
  funky boy. And we cut away and there's 57
• 1:10:14
  minutes left. They've been at this for five,
• 1:10:18
  almost 5. Hours, time.
• 1:10:19
  And they got 84%, so they did like 40%.
• 1:10:24
  Yeah, let her alone. Holy shit.
• 1:10:25
  And they're like, all right. I think we've squeezed her for
• 1:10:27
  all that she's worth. And they realized they can't
• 1:10:29
  stay at the same where they've been going.
• 1:10:31
  So they're like, well, groups of three.
• 1:10:32
  And they're like, Greg can't do anymore.
• 1:10:35
  He's super drugged up now. And they're like, OK, well, all
• 1:10:38
  five of us go at 116%. And Nick is like, I once broke
• 1:10:43
  my clavicle and it was the worst pain of my life.
• 1:10:46
  I I prefer the term clavicle to a collarbone.
• 1:10:48
  Yeah, of course you do. You like big words?
• 1:10:51
  Again, I don't feel like you get to say clavicle enough in life.
• 1:10:55
  You're just trying to stunt on all of us here today.
• 1:10:59
  I literally I that's how I wrote it in my note clavicle.
• 1:11:01
  Yeah, you're still stunning. Check out these teas.
• 1:11:06
  Did he use that right? I don't know and I I don't I
• 1:11:09
  didn't like. That I've heard the kids say it.
• 1:11:12
  Anyway, he says it's the worst thing he's ever experienced.
• 1:11:15
  And they're like, can you still use your arms?
• 1:11:17
  He's like, yeah. So Tony offers to be the one to
• 1:11:20
  do it. And, you know, this moment was
• 1:11:23
  used in the trailer. We haven't watched the trailer,
• 1:11:24
  but, you know, this has to be used in the trailer where he
• 1:11:27
  goes, this is gonna hurt. And it goes.
• 1:11:29
  I'm counting on it. It's like Eric.
• 1:11:31
  Cue the song Doo Doo Doo Doo. Yeah.
• 1:11:35
  And we get like, because the way they probably did this
• 1:11:38
  realistically was they had the wrench on their, they did a
• 1:11:41
  backward shot. If they did this backwards
• 1:11:44
  because it's a one shot, they they did a good job moving,
• 1:11:49
  walking back. Well, because they did it like
• 1:11:51
  they no, I think that it was filmed in reverse and then like.
• 1:11:56
  Yeah, no, that's what I'm saying because like it's a one shot
• 1:11:59
  take here and he's like getting. All of them editing manipulation
• 1:12:04
  with this. It's like.
• 1:12:05
  Cuz it like slows down right? Before yeah that's it speeds up
• 1:12:09
  in between yeah, but I mean, they like if they're moving
• 1:12:12
  backwards cuz that was one of the things I was wondering cuz
• 1:12:15
  they sell it pretty well here yeah.
• 1:12:17
  How do you do that without actually hurting?
• 1:12:19
  Them I really don't think this is a seamless one take.
• 1:12:21
  I think this is one of those that it looks like it's a one
• 1:12:24
  take but it's got some cheats in it.
• 1:12:26
  Could be. That's my my gut thought on this
• 1:12:29
  and if it is A1 take, I'm willing to take back those
• 1:12:32
  words. But Taylor shared and will never
• 1:12:35
  tell us because he doesn't want any association with this movie.
• 1:12:38
  Fucking coward. They get to Taylor and she's
• 1:12:43
  like go ahead, go ahead and he's like.
• 1:12:45
  He hesitates, and then Nick grabs the wrench out of his
• 1:12:48
  hands. And so he's like, yeah.
• 1:12:52
  And he goes. Kai would want me to take it for
• 1:12:54
  her, so he breaks both. He gets it twice.
• 1:12:57
  Yeah. And am I, did I see this wrong,
• 1:13:01
  or did he miss Sam's collarbone and he hits him right in the
• 1:13:06
  head? I there's, I swear to God, I
• 1:13:09
  thought I saw him hit him in the head instead, which it could
• 1:13:12
  have probably fractured his skull, probably confessed him if
• 1:13:16
  he actually hit him in the head. But it looks like he got his
• 1:13:18
  head. Yeah, I don't.
• 1:13:21
  I don't know, but she still hurts so I'm sure that.
• 1:13:24
  That worked, but 34 minutes left, they're 100% and Maria
• 1:13:28
  Olson gives them some outboarding information on how
• 1:13:31
  they can get out of here. Yeah, I was confused at this
• 1:13:33
  because they have that device at the door that is supposed to
• 1:13:36
  clear them. I thought it was taking the
• 1:13:38
  thing off of them. But it doesn't taking the vial
• 1:13:41
  of the stuff they want, but it doesn't take the poison off.
• 1:13:43
  OK, so they go through. Lisa goes through first, then
• 1:13:47
  Sam and then they send Tara's body through and Sam gets her
• 1:13:52
  and then Tony gets Kai's body, sends her through to Sam and
• 1:13:56
  then he goes through and as he goes through he shouts for Nick
• 1:14:00
  and Taylor's like go see what's happening.
• 1:14:03
  I will get Greg through on my own.
• 1:14:05
  Yeah, that was a bad call because she can't lift Greg.
• 1:14:07
  Like I get that he's calling for help, but also like as a group
• 1:14:11
  they should have gotten Greg closer to the door before they
• 1:14:13
  all started going. Through I mean they got all of
• 1:14:15
  the other like motionless bodies out beforehand.
• 1:14:18
  Like why leave Greg behind? Why?
• 1:14:20
  Yeah, put the big man through first.
• 1:14:21
  There's more of you. Tara is like 90 lbs.
• 1:14:24
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's bad.
• 1:14:25
  Tara would have been good for Taylor to get on her own.
• 1:14:27
  Although I get it, Tara is crazy.
• 1:14:29
  Even subdued, she might have tried to murder her.
• 1:14:31
  True, yeah, but yeah, she's trying to drag Greg and she is
• 1:14:37
  having a hard time and then he's like, don't, it doesn't matter,
• 1:14:41
  they're gonna find me after this anyways, so.
• 1:14:43
  I'm not gonna die. He's like, I did sell these
• 1:14:45
  drugs. I was selling them at more than
• 1:14:47
  what they were worth. And I was taking the money.
• 1:14:49
  They're punishing me. I didn't believe the rumors
• 1:14:52
  about how the company was getting these.
• 1:14:54
  And he's like, I know I don't deserve it, but please help me
• 1:14:57
  get it out until it was like, yeah, no, you don't deserve it,
• 1:14:59
  but you know, whatever. And so she's dragging him to the
• 1:15:01
  door and then he dies. And when he died his percentage
• 1:15:05
  goes down. He actually only did 12% cuz it
• 1:15:09
  goes down to 88. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:15:11
  I think that they just kind of felt bad for him.
• 1:15:12
  Yeah. We kind of fucked him over here
• 1:15:14
  at the start there. So when Nick gets out of the
• 1:15:17
  door, he finds that everybody has been stabbed by Sam.
• 1:15:20
  So he's like, it was him. And so Nick follows him, and
• 1:15:23
  he's in this room that's got, like, security cameras and
• 1:15:25
  medications and more tools and stuff.
• 1:15:27
  And Greg's like pulling the little vial off the back of him.
• 1:15:29
  And he was like, yeah, this is this is what I do.
• 1:15:33
  This is look at what your girlfriend's doing right now.
• 1:15:34
  Don't you want to go be near her before you die?
• 1:15:39
  So like, was he? It almost kind of seemed like he
• 1:15:41
  was letting him go because he just ignored him when he came
• 1:15:44
  through. No, I think he knew that he was
• 1:15:47
  going to hit the poison button. OK.
• 1:15:51
  So he, like, I think he just stabbed everybody else to, like,
• 1:15:55
  slow him down. And he's trying to use Taylor as
• 1:15:58
  emotional manipulation on Nick. Yeah, that's how I read this.
• 1:16:01
  And he's like, Greg died. She's got to torture herself.
• 1:16:04
  And we see Taylor in there. We cut to it.
• 1:16:06
  She sets up a hot plate and burns her back with it.
• 1:16:10
  She slams her hand in a cupboard, pours bleach on her
• 1:16:14
  arm, nails her arm into the floor, and then rips it out.
• 1:16:18
  She gets through her 12% really fast at record speed.
• 1:16:22
  Yeah, yeah. So.
• 1:16:24
  Like think about it took all of the rest of them breaking their
• 1:16:27
  collarbones to get 16% and she gets that 12% in like 5 minutes.
• 1:16:32
  And they had 22 hours to do this.
• 1:16:34
  Like they could have gotten through this so fast.
• 1:16:36
  They just managed their time poorly.
• 1:16:39
  But like, she's weak after this. And then she's also trying to
• 1:16:42
  like, make her way out. But during this, Sam has been
• 1:16:47
  giving his whole villain speech to.
• 1:16:50
  Nick. And he's like, I'm still, He's
• 1:16:53
  like, my offer still stands. You can go say goodbye to her.
• 1:16:55
  And Nick says fuck you. And Sam goes, OK, find that.
• 1:16:58
  And he hits the button, releases the poison.
• 1:17:01
  Everybody that's been stabbed is feeling it immediately.
• 1:17:04
  And Greg was like, but Greg, Sam is like, by the way, this takes
• 1:17:07
  about 10 minutes to work. Bullshit.
• 1:17:10
  We've seen that it takes a lot less than 10 minutes to work
• 1:17:13
  before. Yeah, I think if 5 minutes, I
• 1:17:15
  would have believed that, but 10 minutes, no, I don't believe
• 1:17:19
  this at all. And we see.
• 1:17:24
  He like, he leans in to give his like, 'cause he said, you know
• 1:17:27
  what? Like I told him, it's kind of
• 1:17:29
  inefficient to do that, but they're just sick fucks and they
• 1:17:31
  want to see people, Yeah, die. So like Nick takes this
• 1:17:34
  opportunity to take the knife that he was using, the SAB.
• 1:17:37
  No. No.
• 1:17:38
  This is so Sam does say. By the way, you guys are my
• 1:17:41
  fifth group. Nicest group so far.
• 1:17:44
  Everybody's so considerate of their feelings, except for Tara.
• 1:17:46
  What a piece of work. Yeah, if this is the nicest
• 1:17:48
  group then holy shit. What were the other people?
• 1:17:50
  Like he's like, he didn't get murdered.
• 1:17:52
  And then Nick has this screwdriver that Taylor had
• 1:17:55
  given him before he went through because she was like, you don't
• 1:17:57
  know what's on the other side. So he takes this screwdriver
• 1:17:59
  that Sam didn't know he had, stabs him, takes the antidote
• 1:18:04
  pills I presumably because he doesn't die.
• 1:18:08
  This is pretty bad. Tries to give some to Tony who
• 1:18:11
  is already too far gone. It's not been 10 minutes.
• 1:18:14
  Sam is a liar or bad at time management, which I believe if
• 1:18:20
  this is his fifth group and it took the full 22 hours it's.
• 1:18:24
  It's hard to say because like, he could have died from the stab
• 1:18:27
  wound, you know? Yeah, I I don't know, but Taylor
• 1:18:32
  doesn't make it out. No, this whole ending here is so
• 1:18:36
  weird and confusing because there's there was never any
• 1:18:39
  mention of an antidote. And I don't think they even,
• 1:18:42
  like, referenced that pill even being a potential antidote.
• 1:18:45
  It's just like somebody like he just grabs a pill and takes it.
• 1:18:48
  Like, I was like, I was asking you last night and I've seen
• 1:18:50
  this movie so many times. Like, So what happened here?
• 1:18:52
  Like, yeah, how did he not die? Because he got the thing
• 1:18:55
  injected too. And it's like, oh, he took a
• 1:18:57
  pill. Yep.
• 1:18:57
  Oh, OK. So we see him cut through the
• 1:19:01
  chain on the door and walk out. Then we cut to him sometime
• 1:19:04
  later. He's at a diner.
• 1:19:07
  They have their world famous waffles.
• 1:19:10
  And apparently he's been here a lot because the server is saying
• 1:19:14
  you want your usual. And he goes, let me hear the
• 1:19:16
  specials. And she runs through everything.
• 1:19:18
  And he ends up ordering the waffles.
• 1:19:19
  And she's like, yeah, yeah. And she goes, oh, are you gonna
• 1:19:21
  get the rest of your tattoos filled in?
• 1:19:23
  And it's like a bunch of dolphins and just.
• 1:19:26
  A bunch of dolphins. Dolphins, I see.
• 1:19:29
  The Japanese wave on his neck too, I saw.
• 1:19:31
  That, yeah. So he's just sitting there and
• 1:19:34
  he's looking and he sees Diane and apparently he follows her
• 1:19:38
  until night time. Yeah.
• 1:19:41
  And we see her getting dropped off and she says, let me grab
• 1:19:43
  some samples for your wife. And the driver off screen goes,
• 1:19:47
  you don't know married women, do you?
• 1:19:48
  And he just drives off. And I was thinking about it, and
• 1:19:52
  I was like, OK, so Travis, I came home and he was like, I got
• 1:19:56
  slowed down because I gave a woman a ride to your car with
• 1:19:58
  some gas. I'd be like, sketchy glad you
• 1:20:01
  didn't get murdered, but what a good deed.
• 1:20:04
  But if you've been like, I gave a woman a ride to your car and
• 1:20:07
  she gave me perfume samples for you, it would be weird.
• 1:20:12
  Like, I wouldn't think that you had done anything nefarious, but
• 1:20:14
  I would question the woman a little.
• 1:20:16
  Yeah. But I'd also be like, maybe it's
• 1:20:19
  a nice gesture, like as a thank you, but why are you thinking me
• 1:20:22
  like I didn't do it? You know what I mean?
• 1:20:24
  Like, the whole thing is weird. Are you trying to make a sale
• 1:20:27
  off of somebody else's kindness towards like?
• 1:20:29
  This is like her sales technique where she just gets rides from
• 1:20:32
  strangers and it's like, hey, like, while I'm here, how about
• 1:20:35
  a sample? Yeah, here's my car is.
• 1:20:37
  Really like it gives, it's giving MLM, you know?
• 1:20:40
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:20:41
  So and then also I'd be like, and, you know, I'm allergic to
• 1:20:44
  so many perfumes. What a wild, what a wild ride
• 1:20:47
  that that journey sent me on last night.
• 1:20:51
  So Nick is there. He bashes her head into the car,
• 1:20:56
  stuffs her in the trunk and gets in and starts blasting some
• 1:20:59
  death metal. Yeah, and he's like, I love this
• 1:21:01
  song 'cause it's like the same song that she was listening to.
• 1:21:04
  That's it. That's how it ends.
• 1:21:07
  It is still a sentimental 8 for me.
• 1:21:10
  It's still six, that ending. It's satisfying the way it ends
• 1:21:15
  with that right there. But the whole thing of like how
• 1:21:18
  he gets out and how he doesn't die and like it's rushed, not
• 1:21:23
  explained. I don't get it.
• 1:21:25
  OK, so you just want to tidy up the ending?
• 1:21:28
  Mostly, yeah, OK. Because like, everything else is
• 1:21:30
  fine. Like I'm OK with being thrown in
• 1:21:32
  here with like a group of people that I'm not familiar with.
• 1:21:35
  That's fine. And the setup in general, it
• 1:21:38
  worked for me. I was on board with everything.
• 1:21:40
  But then at the end it just I'm confused.
• 1:21:44
  I'm less confused. OK, Talia, she was very barky at
• 1:21:51
  the beginning of this. You got her worked up because
• 1:21:54
  you told her the story of the Go Potty killer and she was just
• 1:21:58
  convinced that there was somebody lurking in our yard.
• 1:22:01
  I mean, I think it was the added effect of having the candle up
• 1:22:06
  to my face. Like I can't fire like who the
• 1:22:09
  hell of the go potty killer Yes, and she went out there.
• 1:22:12
  She's just. Screaming.
• 1:22:13
  We're not joking you guys. She went out there and just
• 1:22:16
  barked around every corner of the yard.
• 1:22:18
  She got our neighbor dog OB in on it.
• 1:22:21
  He was, he was concerned. He went over to her and did like
• 1:22:24
  a little gentle whine just to check on her.
• 1:22:27
  And she was she went over there, conferred with him, and then I
• 1:22:30
  walked out there and I stood with her while she did
• 1:22:33
  everything. She needed somebody out there
• 1:22:35
  because she was scared. So I think Talia, she was very
• 1:22:39
  frightened by this movie. It put her on edge along with
• 1:22:42
  the tale of the Go Potty Killer. She probably thought Go Potty
• 1:22:44
  Killer was going to take her to the scary house.
• 1:22:47
  So I think Talia is going to give this A9.
• 1:22:49
  Oh yeah, it was effective for. Her Who's is Zoe's ultimate
• 1:22:53
  warrior? Beast Boy, I agree.
• 1:22:57
  Yeah, that was so obviously. No debate needed on.
• 1:23:02
  That no, he's hungry all the time.
• 1:23:04
  Yeah, he's hungry all the time. He's a little beast.
• 1:23:10
  He likes to cause pain, so it's a little sadist.
• 1:23:13
  Yeah, OK. SO tagline.
• 1:23:17
  OK, tagline. Tony's revenge.
• 1:23:22
  Yeah, kind of, Yeah, I kind of like that.
• 1:23:28
  I mean, that's like a that'd be the sequel title if it weren't
• 1:23:33
  Jackass. Yeah, that's and that's our
• 1:23:35
  sequel that that's settled on. I want to see.
• 1:23:38
  I want to make a version of that.
• 1:23:41
  God, that would be so. I mean, I think that would just
• 1:23:44
  be a fun sequel idea because like, you would people go in
• 1:23:46
  expecting Oval too? It's just going to be some
• 1:23:48
  torture porn and shit and be like, no, it's going to be like
• 1:23:51
  the Jackass crew and they're just having fun with it.
• 1:23:54
  I bet you could get enough of them to agree to do it, yeah.
• 1:23:56
  I mean, they've already agreed to do 4 movies worth in a
• 1:23:59
  television series so. It would be one of those things
• 1:24:02
  where it would be one of those movies that Johnny Knoxville
• 1:24:06
  does where he's like, yeah, we'll make an actual movie of
• 1:24:08
  it, but we're actually going to do the stunts, too, and hurt
• 1:24:10
  ourselves. At some point they've tricked
• 1:24:14
  and tied up Tremaine and say he's got to take most of it.
• 1:24:17
  They voted. Yeah, I mean, honestly, it
• 1:24:23
  writes itself. Yeah, it's so easy.
• 1:24:25
  I want to see the, you know, those contests where you punch
• 1:24:30
  something as hard as you can to see what your rating is.
• 1:24:33
  Yeah, like at carnival. Yeah, exactly.
• 1:24:35
  Bar bathrooms. Yeah.
• 1:24:36
  I want to see that. I want to see them rig like one
• 1:24:38
  of those like little like poles, like strongman poles where you
• 1:24:40
  like hit that and then it goes up and.
• 1:24:42
  Is it wrong? Will be strong.
• 1:24:45
  Exactly, I mean if Bam were still part of the crew he could
• 1:24:48
  take another one up the ass if he wanted to.
• 1:24:50
  All. Right, there we go.
• 1:24:53
  But he they wouldn't want him because he.
• 1:24:55
  Yeah. He'd be he'd.
• 1:24:57
  Be the Gregor. Sneaking in the drugs.
• 1:24:59
  Exactly. Yeah, that got dark.
• 1:25:01
  It did get, really. Dark.
• 1:25:03
  That's the reality of the situation, unfortunately.
• 1:25:05
  Everybody wants him to get clean, but he doesn't want it
• 1:25:07
  for himself. Yeah, All right, so is the
• 1:25:11
  tagline gonna be Tony's revenge? I think so.
• 1:25:13
  OK, I'm OK with this, Tony. Tony's revenge was sweet.
• 1:25:17
  Yeah, it was well earned. OK.
• 1:25:21
  Who did you relate to? Kind of related to Sam there
• 1:25:33
  taking off the shirt because it was his favorite shirt because
• 1:25:35
  like. I could see you doing that.
• 1:25:37
  Yeah, I I wouldn't want to ruin my favorite shirt if I were
• 1:25:40
  wearing. It you'd be wearing like one of
• 1:25:41
  your favorite like white T-shirts and you'd be like.
• 1:25:45
  Man, always happens when I wear a white T-shirt.
• 1:25:47
  Something happens, Yeah. What about you?
• 1:25:55
  I feel like I probably relate to Kai because I think, like the
• 1:26:02
  most egregious thing you could do to me is RIP off my
• 1:26:04
  fingernail. So I take a lot of pride in my
• 1:26:06
  nails and like if I woke up to somebody doing that on top of
• 1:26:09
  just like the disrespect, but the fact that it's my
• 1:26:11
  fingernail, it's my fingernail, bro.
• 1:26:16
  We're talking about my fingernails, talking about my
• 1:26:18
  fingernails, talking about my fingernails.
• 1:26:20
  I'm talking about the whole hand.
• 1:26:21
  We're talking about my fingernails.
• 1:26:26
  I would, I would be like indignant for literally the rest
• 1:26:30
  of the time I was around that guy.
• 1:26:31
  I'd be like, yeah, so we're going to torture you 12% because
• 1:26:35
  you took off my fingernail. That's probably why she's like,
• 1:26:39
  let's kill him. Like, yeah, like I'm totally on
• 1:26:42
  board with killing him. He he took off my fingernails.
• 1:26:44
  Talk about my fingernails. Welcome finger.
• 1:26:46
  Now talk about practice. Feel like that might need watch
• 1:26:51
  that? Look up Alan Iverson practice if
• 1:26:54
  you are curious about what we're referencing here.
• 1:26:57
  About practice. Practice.
• 1:26:59
  Not even a game. We're talking about practice.
• 1:27:03
  Legendary. So OK.
• 1:27:07
  I think that means it's time for reviews.
• 1:27:10
  OK it is time for reviews. I pulled one off of IMDb and I
• 1:27:14
  tried really hard to find one that wasn't just like this is
• 1:27:17
  the lame saw RIP off. I yeah, I could see why people
• 1:27:21
  spouting that. So 2 out of 10, like I said,
• 1:27:26
  this seems to be very much a love it or hate it kind of
• 1:27:30
  movie. And you can find the same type
• 1:27:31
  of stuff when you look it up on Dreaded too.
• 1:27:33
  Really. Yeah, Vile.
• 1:27:36
  Yes it's vile. Why?
• 1:27:37
  Not because it's been compared to other torture porn films,
• 1:27:40
  which it isn't, but because it's excrement, mostly a group of
• 1:27:44
  people trapped in a property of which they decide very quickly
• 1:27:47
  there is no escape. Even with multiple instruments
• 1:27:49
  to aid them in the and a lack of logic.
• 1:27:52
  If there's a way in, there's a way out.
• 1:27:54
  The gore is mostly inference at best and the lackluster sound
• 1:27:57
  editing and soundtrack only further mute the need for
• 1:28:00
  viewing of this punk arse bitch of a film.
• 1:28:03
  OK. Cliche acts of even trying to
• 1:28:06
  review character development would be futile in the least.
• 1:28:09
  As for the aforementioned twist at the end by previous
• 1:28:12
  reviewers, there isn't 1. You would have to be branded to
• 1:28:15
  believe the ending was even remotely twisted.
• 1:28:17
  This film sucks, basically. I mean, OK, I'll give you
• 1:28:21
  credit. The soundtrack does kind of
• 1:28:23
  suck. It's very cheap, which I mean
• 1:28:26
  low budget. It's kind of, it kind of
• 1:28:28
  happens. You can probably, I guess it
• 1:28:33
  depends on how much money you spent on the production, but you
• 1:28:36
  can get a composer fairly cheap. Didn't we, like I, we heard
• 1:28:41
  during one of the indie panels at Scarefest, I think it was our
• 1:28:46
  first year, second year, it was the one with Rob Mellow where
• 1:28:50
  somebody's like, you can pay John Carpenter $3000 to score
• 1:28:55
  your film. Yeah, he might not give it his
• 1:28:57
  all, but you will have a John Carpenter score and he will
• 1:29:00
  agree to do it. He'll he'll knock it out in the
• 1:29:03
  afternoon. There's a film that I've been
• 1:29:06
  getting some extra work going and I know they're proof of
• 1:29:09
  concept, like short film. One of the actors actually ended
• 1:29:13
  up scoring it last minute because the composer was out of
• 1:29:17
  like not able to do it last second.
• 1:29:19
  So. Yeah, I mean, I don't know.
• 1:29:23
  Yeah, like I said, there was a music supervisor for this and
• 1:29:27
  she put all of her music budget towards 2 songs.
• 1:29:30
  Yeah, but boy, did she use them. Yes.
• 1:29:33
  Honestly, I if she did do that, we wouldn't get the funny file
• 1:29:39
  thing though. And that's part of the charm to
• 1:29:41
  this movie for me. I just kind of like it.
• 1:29:44
  Yeah, but OK, Sorry, but give them credit or to disagree with
• 1:29:49
  them on one thing. Though I do feel like that was a
• 1:29:52
  twist at the end because I didn't expect him to be in on
• 1:29:55
  it. And I don't know if it's because
• 1:29:58
  we're both like, that's feast boy.
• 1:30:00
  Yeah, honestly, the signs were all there.
• 1:30:02
  And he's been most honestly pleasant, but it's like we
• 1:30:04
  forgot about the cuts and we forgot about the fact he's like
• 1:30:07
  generally agreeing with everybody.
• 1:30:09
  Well, not only that, but he also spearheaded the entire thing in
• 1:30:12
  the beginning. He's like, OK, so this is what
• 1:30:13
  we do. Yeah, he's like, OK, we got to.
• 1:30:15
  We got to stay on track. He let the group guide it, but
• 1:30:17
  he kind of kept everybody on track.
• 1:30:18
  He was the tailor, Sheridan, of this group.
• 1:30:20
  Like he was like, I'm not making any active decisions, but I'm
• 1:30:23
  going to keep everybody going the way they need to go.
• 1:30:26
  I like the idea that he probably like proposes.
• 1:30:29
  He's done this five times. Every single time.
• 1:30:31
  I'm sure he's trying to get an going in at least one.
• 1:30:34
  He's like, I mean, we can fuck people.
• 1:30:36
  Yeah, we can do that. Like it's gonna work.
• 1:30:38
  One I'm like one of these days I'm gonna get the wargy group.
• 1:30:41
  Like it's just gonna be sex non-stop.
• 1:30:43
  He like he heard about the the two couples cuddle puddle at the
• 1:30:47
  beginning. He's like, there's, there's.
• 1:30:49
  Potential. Potential, Yeah, yeah.
• 1:30:51
  Can I puddle with that cuddle? That was the wrong cuddle with
• 1:30:57
  that puddle. Can I?
• 1:31:00
  Can I put up with that cuddle that just?
• 1:31:02
  Makes it sound like he's standing to the side like.
• 1:31:09
  Jesse did like the little Jack off motion, like even with the
• 1:31:13
  explosion. I didn't feel good about it.
• 1:31:15
  I turned away. I couldn't make our contact with
• 1:31:17
  you all. I said.
• 1:31:21
  That's not my proudest. I, you know, I liked it.
• 1:31:24
  I thought it was really fun, you know?
• 1:31:27
  Yeah, OK. Were your thoughts on the
• 1:31:30
  review? I mean, I, I mean, yeah, we
• 1:31:34
  don't get like a ton of character development, but I do
• 1:31:36
  think we get an idea of who most of these characters are.
• 1:31:41
  Yeah, at a base level, I, I'm, I'm honestly, I'm not bothered
• 1:31:47
  by the soundtrack in this. Like I, I like the two songs we
• 1:31:51
  get. They're not good songs.
• 1:31:54
  Realistically speaking. I wouldn't.
• 1:31:56
  If I ever listen to any of these songs, I'm like, that's going in
• 1:31:59
  my horror movie. I would never say that, but.
• 1:32:03
  Every time I've ever played them in the car together, Travis
• 1:32:06
  goes. Is this that fucking song from
• 1:32:07
  Vile verbatim? It's just, it wouldn't be my
• 1:32:12
  choice. It's an interesting choice for a
• 1:32:14
  horror movie, but you know, I've made an impression, So what do I
• 1:32:18
  know? I'm not.
• 1:32:19
  Bothered. All right, so are we ready for
• 1:32:22
  listener? Reviews, Yes.
• 1:32:23
  Do we have listener? Reviews we do.
• 1:32:26
  Yay. We have Michael E Howard.
• 1:32:29
  Michael, I should have known. I should have known I could
• 1:32:32
  count on. You true one here.
• 1:32:33
  All right, so Michael says. First off, I am a sucker for a
• 1:32:37
  single location game type movies such like Jess.
• 1:32:40
  Yes, Thank you, Michael. This is my second time seeing
• 1:32:44
  violence. You've seen it before, Cool and
• 1:32:46
  think that I like it better. Watching it the second round I
• 1:32:50
  was impressed with how much of the gore was not shown, but felt
• 1:32:53
  my biggest criticism was a the sound quality.
• 1:32:57
  Yes, thank goodness for closed captions because it fluxated so
• 1:33:00
  bad. You got captions?
• 1:33:01
  Where were your captions? I'm jealous.
• 1:33:05
  We had the fucking DVD and we didn't get them.
• 1:33:08
  It must be on TV. Somebody must have been like
• 1:33:11
  transcribing furiously behind the scenes.
• 1:33:13
  Yeah, NB some of the crying felt a bit over the top.
• 1:33:18
  Decent movie overall. 7 out of 10.
• 1:33:20
  OK, he's in between the two. He's right on our average.
• 1:33:23
  Score. Yeah.
• 1:33:24
  OK, cool. That's perfect.
• 1:33:25
  I absolutely agree with everything you say there.
• 1:33:28
  Even with this being a single location movie, this is a single
• 1:33:31
  location. Movie.
• 1:33:31
  Oh my God, Travis agrees. It's a single location movie
• 1:33:33
  even though they have different rooms in the house.
• 1:33:37
  That's never the thing they but they do have different locations
• 1:33:41
  in this movie. I if you want to go there.
• 1:33:44
  Travis, you said that the beach from Old is not a single
• 1:33:46
  location. It's a single beach and the
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  beach from Old. But there was so much away from
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  the beach. That happens.
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  It's mostly on the beach. Mostly.
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  So it's a mostly single location movie.
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  Oh my God, yeah. No, this is a single location
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  movie. And I'm glad that you brought up
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  the exact points that we had with the sound being one and the
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  screaming. I didn't really consider that
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  before, but you know what? Like I'd have to give it another
• 1:34:13
  look to see that again, it didn't register with me last
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  night, but I could see it maybe being a little over the top.
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  With some of them. Yeah, Greg, especially Greg was,
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  he was. He was really letting them fly.
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  Just I was. Screaming and I'm so glad that
• 1:34:32
  scene was cut because it was so I was jarring watching it as a
• 1:34:35
  deleted scene. It was really funny.
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  It was, yeah, it was funny, like, but also like, if you're
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  gonna peer over somebody's head while they're sleeping, you
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  can't be shocked, but they scream at you.
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  You've had that? Happen.
• 1:34:46
  Wait, what? Peering over somebody's head and
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  just because like, it's not like he woke up.
• 1:34:50
  He's like, ah, like he was awake and then she just looked at him
• 1:34:55
  and then he screamed, no, he woke up.
• 1:34:58
  Is that what happened? Yeah, she was like Greg, Greg.
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  And it startled him awake and he started screaming.
• 1:35:04
  OK, you do wake up screaming a lot.
• 1:35:06
  Exactly. I think it's just a you and Greg
• 1:35:09
  thing because I don't see a lot of people do that.
• 1:35:14
  OK, Then again, I don't watch a lot of people sleep.
• 1:35:18
  But it's not that you never watch people sleep.
• 1:35:20
  I'm not saying that necessarily. Yeah, you know, I'll decline the
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  comment. OK.
• 1:35:28
  OK. So that was the only review that
• 1:35:30
  we had. OK.
• 1:35:31
  Yeah, I didn't really. I'm.
• 1:35:33
  I'm happy that we got one. I didn't.
• 1:35:35
  I'm honestly shocked that you'd seen this before, Michael, and
• 1:35:40
  that shouldn't surprise me. We got a lot of true people that
• 1:35:44
  listen here. Our core group here are good,
• 1:35:46
  good horror people, so. Yeah, definitely.
• 1:35:49
  If you haven't checked this out, it's free to stream on TV or
• 1:35:53
  Plex or Crackle right now. It's a solid watch, yeah.
• 1:35:56
  Quick and it's fun, yeah. It's not it's not boring, no.
• 1:36:01
  Okay, so that's it for Vile. Next week we have our Patreon
• 1:36:05
  voted movie and that is Joyride to get.
• 1:36:09
  Ahead. Yeah, we're actually in a tie,
• 1:36:12
  and Talia was the tie breaker. Good Lord, we're front loading
• 1:36:16
  the new year with straight to DVD horror.
• 1:36:19
  Yeah, we are. Boy.
• 1:36:22
  OK, so let me see where we can watch.
• 1:36:24
  I don't think this is streaming anywhere.
• 1:36:25
  Probably not. We own it so.
• 1:36:27
  Yeah, this is one of those movies that never I've, I've
• 1:36:29
  never seen it stream before. OK, so you can pay less than
• 1:36:34
  $4.00 to rent it from Prime, YouTube or Fandango at home.
• 1:36:38
  Those are your watch options. Unless you own it.
• 1:36:41
  It is possible to go buy the three pack?
• 1:36:44
  Yeah, the three pack at Walmart, Yeah, and then you get some
• 1:36:49
  Declan O'Brien O'Connor in the. Third one, yeah, yeah, not the
• 1:36:53
  best. It's there, let's say.
• 1:36:56
  Not the worst, but it is definitely the worst of the
• 1:36:59
  franchise. Oh yeah, it's way, way the worst
• 1:37:02
  one. And and as is apparently his
• 1:37:05
  fate in the world, Ken Cruisinger is replacing what's
• 1:37:10
  his face's rusty nail. Oh oh.
• 1:37:15
  What is He's always he's always replacing the beloved villain.
• 1:37:19
  Yeah, Rusty Nell, I feel. Kind of bad for Ken, honestly.
• 1:37:22
  He does fine, but I don't even remember who the Rusty Nell and
• 1:37:26
  Joyride 2 is. But you know what?
• 1:37:27
  Joyride 2 is a good movie. It's a good one.
• 1:37:29
  So watch it if you can. We recommend it.
• 1:37:31
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• 1:37:33
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• 1:37:40
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• 1:39:13
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• 1:39:15
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• 1:39:24
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• 1:39:27
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• 1:39:32
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