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One Leg Up on National Championship/NFL Divisional Round Coverage with Terminello's Take 1-16-25 · OneLegUpAlex Sports

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  Speaker 1: Here's your host, Alex Garrett.
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  Speaker 2: Before we get to Terminello's take tonight, I just want
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  Speaker 3: It's only right.
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  Speaker 2: Another thing struck my mind today. It's January fifteenth, So
• 0:51
  Speaker 2: do we keep saying Happy New Year? Or are we done?
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  Speaker 2: We're about two weeks in to the new year.
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  Speaker 3: I've still said it to a few people. Do you
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  Speaker 3: still say Happy New Year to anybody this late in January?
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  Speaker 3: Mid January?
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  Speaker 2: Just just a curious thought there if you can email
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  Speaker 2: me Alex at ALEXGNYC dot com if you do, in
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  Speaker 2: fact say Happy New Year through the rest of January.
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  Speaker 3: I might. I don't know yet.
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  Speaker 2: We'll see, but without further ado, here is Tournane. Let's
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  Speaker 2: take Hey Lou, Happy New Year.
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  Speaker 1: Alex looking forward to a good twenty twenty five for everyone.
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  Speaker 2: We'll get to the NFL playoffs in a moment, but
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  Speaker 2: I have to say this, last night's game taught me
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  Speaker 2: that even though we do this podcast every week, I'm
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  Speaker 2: still so focused on the storylines. Yet here Stafford and
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  Speaker 2: the Rams are really knocking out the fourteen and three vikings.
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  Speaker 2: We'll get to that toward the end of this, but
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  Speaker 2: let's start with Saturday. Okay, Saturday, I think we I
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  Speaker 2: think for you probably went the way you thought it would, right,
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  Speaker 2: I mean the Ravens.
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  Speaker 3: And then did you think the Charge had a chance
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  Speaker 3: of Texans against the Texas?
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  Speaker 1: I thought, Alex. I thought the Chargers were going to
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  Speaker 1: win the game. I really did. And I think the
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  Speaker 1: most surprising result of this wild Card weekend was how
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  Speaker 1: poorly the Chargers played. They didn't have an answer Harbor,
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  Speaker 1: who you thought would make a difference in a game
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  Speaker 1: like this, He didn't. The Houston Texans totally man handled
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  Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Charges offensive line and really did nothing
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  Speaker 1: the whole game. They were up six to nothing, they
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  Speaker 1: should have been up more early in the game on
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  Speaker 1: two field goals, and then the play that changed the
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  Speaker 1: game is when CJ. Stroud lost, that lost the football
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  Speaker 1: looked like he was going to be tackled and that
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  Speaker 1: drive was going to end back inside his own ten
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  Speaker 1: and throw and completes the pass or a first down
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  Speaker 1: where they get the touchdown just before they half. Got
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  Speaker 1: a field goal after that and dominated the second half.
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  Speaker 1: So the fact that that Harbor didn't make a difference.
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  Speaker 1: Now again, the Chargers are ahead as schedule, they were
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  Speaker 1: going through transition. They don't have the offensive players they've
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  Speaker 1: had in the past, like what Mike Williams are with
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  Speaker 1: Keenan Allen that they had last year. This wasn't as
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  Speaker 1: good a roster as Brandon Staley had, and Harbor will
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  Speaker 1: take care of that. They are going to be a
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  Speaker 1: threat in the future. But I was just surprised how
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  Speaker 1: meet they went UH into UH into the sunset on Saturday.
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  Speaker 1: That was my surprise. That was my big surprise in Matthews.
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  Speaker 2: Well, and you know what, I still think the Harbaugh
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  Speaker 2: Herbert connection can still work.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely No, Alex, this is just the beginning. You're right,
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  Speaker 1: You're one hundred percent right. It's gonna it's gonna work.
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  Speaker 3: Now, I'll tell you what CJ. Stroud versus Mahomes.
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  Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to that, okay, because Droud's waiting for
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  Speaker 2: this moment to really break out. We've been waiting as
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  Speaker 2: as you know observers of the game. He's had his
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  Speaker 2: moments of breakout. But now is the time.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, imagine he does it.
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  Speaker 2: And no it's not because I want to see someone
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  Speaker 2: else in the Chiefs, but I think it'd be kind
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  Speaker 2: of fun if Stroud was the guy to knock Mahomes
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  Speaker 2: off his horse a little bit, wouldn't you wouldn't you
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  Speaker 2: like that or what do you think it? Well?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, obviously, yes, it's good to it would be
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  Speaker 1: good to have a couple of other teams in there.
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  Speaker 1: But I think Kansas City is going to be ready
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  Speaker 1: to play on Saturday. We gotta remember strouds in the
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  Speaker 1: second year and he said he had a marvelous rookie year. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: he was a little inconsistent this year. But the Texans,
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  Speaker 1: a team that won two games two years ago, is
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  Speaker 1: a team still on the rise. They're going to be
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  Speaker 1: a Super Bowl playoff contender for a long time, so
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  Speaker 1: we will can they keep in the game on Saturday
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  Speaker 1: at four point thirty? Without question, their defense is good,
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  Speaker 1: and Alex did. As you know, there's only three teams
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  Speaker 1: in the NFL that haven't scored thirty points this year
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  Speaker 1: in a single game. One of them was the Titans,
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  Speaker 1: one of them was the Patriots, you know who. The
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  Speaker 1: third team was the back to back Super Bowl champion
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  Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs. So with that defense that the Texans have,
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  Speaker 1: that that's the best chance to pull off an upset.
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  Speaker 1: But I do see the Chiefs rising to the occasion
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  Speaker 1: in these playoffs.
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  Speaker 2: I think they will, but I just I can only dream.
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  Speaker 2: Right now, here's a guy, and I sound like Collinsworth
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  Speaker 2: for a minute, Sorry about that, But here's a guy
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  Speaker 2: that is also finding a revival within the Texans. And
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  Speaker 2: when I heard his name, I'm like, wait a minute.
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  Speaker 2: He was doing well with the Bengals and now he's
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  Speaker 2: on the Texans.
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  Speaker 3: Joe Mixon.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, we talk about the Dereck Henry revival in Baltimore.
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  Speaker 2: We've talked about other guys that have found they're markedly
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  Speaker 2: down in Philadelphia. But let's lose track of Joe Mixon.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, here's a guy who's also sort of reinvented
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  Speaker 2: himself in Houston.
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  Speaker 3: Am I right?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah? He's obviously he's had an excellent career. He's not
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  Speaker 1: a Hall of Fame back, but he's had an excellent
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  Speaker 1: career both in Cincinnati and now now now in Houston. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: he's a threat. They can use him in a lot
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  Speaker 1: of different ways, and uh he will be. Uh, he
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  Speaker 1: will be one of the main targets on on a
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  Speaker 1: Saturday when they play at Arrowhead. Now, the thing is,
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  Speaker 1: Joe Mixon has been on playoff teams that have beaten
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  Speaker 1: Kansas City in the playoffs.
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  Speaker 3: That's right.
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  Speaker 2: He lived on that Bengals team that ran, So he's
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  Speaker 2: got you know, he'll he'll have a little swagger to
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  Speaker 2: be sure. And you know, I still can't help but
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  Speaker 2: think about that time, you know, when they dropped on
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  Speaker 2: that kick on that field goal attempt, they dropped the foot.
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  Speaker 2: It was just a mess and the Bengals winning.
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  Speaker 3: I still think about that that game. It is a classic,
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  Speaker 3: isn't it?
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely Yep, So it should be. I don't know if
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  Speaker 1: this game between Houston and Kandasity he will end up
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  Speaker 1: being classic. But you never know, we didn't really get
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  Speaker 1: a classic at all this weekend of the best game,
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  Speaker 1: and we'll get to it. It was the Washington Have
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  Speaker 1: a Bay game. But the other game on Saturday Baltimore
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  Speaker 1: twenty eight Pittsburgh fourteen. Baltimore just had superior talent. They
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  Speaker 1: were the superior team. They were physical. They ran for
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  Speaker 1: two hundred and ninety nine yards. Pittsburgh had just twenty nine.
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  Speaker 1: So that didn't help Russell Wilson in his passing game.
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  Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, who looks like he is done, and the
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  Speaker 1: Ravens offense is both passing and running is tremendous. And
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  Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson, who's already won two MVPs, is probably having
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  Speaker 1: his best year and may not win the MVP this year.
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  Speaker 1: And TJ. Watt for Pittsburgh was obviously hurt. He was
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  Speaker 1: not one hundred percent healthy, so we get we got
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  Speaker 1: a very interesting game this weekend be between Baltimore and Buffalo.
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  Speaker 1: And Buffalo, I mean they did what they had to
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  Speaker 1: do on Sunday thirty one to seven over Denver. They
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  Speaker 1: held the ball for forty one minutes plus Denver only eighteen.
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  Speaker 1: They ran for over two hundred yards, they passed for
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  Speaker 1: over two hundred and fifty. I mean this is a
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  Speaker 1: team obviously that is word as working on all cylinders
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  Speaker 1: and the six thirty CBS game on Sunday night is
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  Speaker 1: going that could be a classic. I mean, going in
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  Speaker 1: that's the game of the year as as far as anticipation,
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  Speaker 1: anticipation goes. Two leading candidates for MVP, Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson,
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  Speaker 1: two spectacular quarterbacks.
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  Speaker 3: And by the way, how happy is Amari Cooper?
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  Speaker 1: Right?
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  Speaker 2: Remember he was in that cowboy eraon now he's in this.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, what a change of pace for him. And
• 8:52
  Speaker 2: I'll tell you why I mentioned him because him along
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  Speaker 2: with Alan have teamed up well and Shakir. But I
• 9:00
  Speaker 2: look at who they replaced Digs with and it's like
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  Speaker 2: a totally different locker room now without Stefan Diggs. And
• 9:07
  Speaker 2: how ironic that Digs up for the rest of the
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  Speaker 2: year obviously unfortunately for right Houston. But come on, that.
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  Speaker 3: Change in personnel, it seems to have really worked in
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  Speaker 3: the bills favor.
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  Speaker 1: Right it did? I mean, obviously they changed their entire
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  Speaker 1: wide receiver corps. You know, Gabriel Davis, who everybody thought
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  Speaker 1: was going to be a superstar down in Jacksonville where
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  Speaker 1: he really didn't do much this year. And I think
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  Speaker 1: getting rid of Diggs that that was the old addition
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  Speaker 1: by subtraction. So I'm looking forward to all these games
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  Speaker 1: this weekend. But that Buffalo and Baltimore game, if it
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  Speaker 1: lives up to the hype, could be one we remember
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  Speaker 1: for a while.
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  Speaker 2: Just add some snow to it, right, some blizzard and
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  Speaker 2: we're all set, come on down.
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  Speaker 1: That would really make it a classic, that's for sure.
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  Speaker 1: Philadelphia twenty two, green Bay ten. It was a blog game.
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  Speaker 1: The Eagles offense was very sporadic. Green Bay's offense wasn't
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  Speaker 1: very good.
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  Speaker 2: They seemingly contained Barkley because his name was not called
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  Speaker 2: out a lot, and I thought that was interesting, uh,
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  Speaker 2: that Barkley was contained that way. But look, Philadelphia got
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  Speaker 2: the win. You know, Jordan loves another quarterback where you
• 10:20
  Speaker 2: could see him making runs down down the road. Obviously
• 10:23
  Speaker 2: we've talked about him before. He's still the future of
• 10:26
  Speaker 2: the Packers, right, I mean there's no doubt.
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  Speaker 1: No doubt, there's no doubt about that. I mean, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: see what, he didn't have a great year. He's not
• 10:32
  Speaker 1: in that upper echelon of quarterbacks, but neither is Jalen Hurts.
• 10:36
  Speaker 1: I think Jalen Hurts is taking a step back. The
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  Speaker 1: last last couple of years. But obviously Jalen Hurts is
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  Speaker 1: good enough to win the Super Bowl. He came within
• 10:43
  Speaker 1: a couple of seconds of winning the Super Bowl a
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  Speaker 1: couple of years ago. And uh, you know, Philadelphia has
• 10:50
  Speaker 1: I think, a very deep roster and you know, we
• 10:55
  Speaker 1: we'll uh, you know, we'll see what happens this weekend
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  Speaker 1: when they play the Los Angeles Rams. And uh, that
• 11:03
  Speaker 1: was interesting the way they the Rams dominated. I know
• 11:08
  Speaker 1: I'm jumping over Washington and Tampa Bay, but the way
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  Speaker 1: the Rams dominate, the total domination last night was was
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  Speaker 1: was surprising to me.
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  Speaker 3: They no, wait a minute, is this is this?
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  Speaker 2: Is this a sign that you and I and maybe
• 11:23
  Speaker 2: even though the West East Coasters did not play close
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  Speaker 2: enough attention to the NFC West, or was this just
• 11:29
  Speaker 2: a wow?
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  Speaker 3: This team deler.
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  Speaker 2: What I'm trying to say is did we miss something
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  Speaker 2: in the regular season to underestimate the Rams or what?
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  Speaker 1: No, I don't I don't think. I don't think we
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  Speaker 1: underestimate the Rams. The Rams have made their roster younger,
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  Speaker 1: especially on defense, and and uh, they all participated in
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  Speaker 1: the the absolute domination, uh that we saw last night.
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  Speaker 1: The Rams won and they totally overwhelmed the Vikings from
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  Speaker 1: the start. They outplayed them in all areas and they
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  Speaker 1: and they out coached the uh, the Vikings coaching staff.
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  Speaker 1: The first the first series of the game, boom, boom, boom.
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  Speaker 1: He threw like eight or nine passes in a row,
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  Speaker 1: no running game. You know, Brian Flores is supposed to
• 12:25
  Speaker 1: be a great defensive coordinator, and I'm sure and he is. Obviously,
• 12:30
  Speaker 1: he is an outstanding coordinator, but last night he did not.
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  Speaker 1: He did nothing to to stem the tie, and before
• 12:37
  Speaker 1: you know, down seven and nothing the first two drop
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  Speaker 1: dropbacks by Donald. The offensive line of the Vikings was
• 12:45
  Speaker 1: basically pushed into Donald, which affected Donald who had a
• 12:50
  Speaker 1: terrible game. He missed, missed the easy passes to the
• 12:55
  Speaker 1: screen passes and uh they made no adjustments and Kevin
• 13:01
  Speaker 1: O'Connor O'Connell just before halftime, on fourth down at for midfield,
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  Speaker 1: decided to go for it at seven down seventeen to
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  Speaker 1: three and Donald was sacked and he should have gotten
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  Speaker 1: rid of the ball. He held onto the ball too
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  Speaker 1: long there, which led to a touchdown just before to
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  Speaker 1: half twenty four to three. Mcveigh's a great coach, I know.
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  Speaker 1: I keep saying it over and over and over again.
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  Speaker 1: He's a great, great coach, and they were. That was
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  Speaker 1: probably the difference between the two teams last night offensive.
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  Speaker 2: And I know Cooper Cup wasn't targeted as much, but
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  Speaker 2: Cooper Cup still a presence on that offense, no question.
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  Speaker 1: And the Vikings tough way for the Vikings season to end,
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  Speaker 1: but it's not the way they lost, because hey, they
• 13:51
  Speaker 1: could have lost. I mean, the Rams are a fine team,
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  Speaker 1: but the way they lost, the way they got manhandled
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  Speaker 1: was was surprising. And you know, now now the question
• 14:03
  Speaker 1: comes up, what do they do at quarterback? You know,
• 14:06
  Speaker 1: everybody loves the backup quarterback Alex. Nobody's seen JJ McCarthy
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  Speaker 1: take a stap in the NFL, but he's going to
• 14:12
  Speaker 1: be their answer next year at quarterback. So that's a
• 14:15
  Speaker 1: that's a situation that that the Minnesota Viking organization is
• 14:20
  Speaker 1: gonna have to look out what they do with Donald.
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  Speaker 1: Do they let them go? Obviously Donald lost millions last night,
• 14:27
  Speaker 1: that's for sure. And again we don't know what JJ
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  Speaker 1: McCarthy is because we've never seen them play at the
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  Speaker 1: NFL level. But the Rams have a chance in Philly
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  Speaker 1: next week. Alex I really do they really? I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what the weather's going to be like
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: on Sunday in Philly, but they have a chance. And
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: the game that we jumped over this Sunday night game,
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: you know, Washington being Tampa Bay twenty three to twenty
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  Speaker 1: that was the most exciting game of the weekend. Obviously,
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: Jayda Daniels is just I mean, you would think he's
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: a five year veteran, not not a rookie. He's poised.
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  Speaker 1: I don't agree with dan Quinn going for all those
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  Speaker 1: fourth downs, especially early in the game. You gotta get
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: those three points up early in the game. I think
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  Speaker 1: they didn't, but it didn't matter. They won the game
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: a couple of botched handoffs, which which which hurt Tampa Bay,
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: but Washington won a time of possession and they ran
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  Speaker 1: sixty nine plays to Tampa Bay's forty four that won
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  Speaker 1: them the game. Alex, now that twenty five played differential
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: one then one, Uh, Washington the game, yes, and then
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: uh the field goal banking in off the.
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  Speaker 3: So let me let me said the same for you.
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  Speaker 2: We're watching the game out at a restaurant after I
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: did my night shift at nine to seventy I'm like,
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: all right, Bucks are gonna hold on.
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  Speaker 3: They just stopped him on fourth down.
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: This is gonna be the but and boy was iraglu
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  Speaker 2: I th that' stop in the beginning of the fourth
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  Speaker 2: quarter was going to change the game for the Bucks,
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: and sure enough they lost an overtime. But again, and
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: talking about him again maker me up for another guy,
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: give him another couple of years. Him and Evans have
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: a great connection. I don't want to say, like Brady Evans,
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: but it sort of reminded me of that a little
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: bit because about while they flowed, he's a chance they
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: still have a chance with Baker in the coming years.
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: But I agree he's an outstanding quarterback. Yeah, that outstanding
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  Speaker 1: the year. I'm always been a big Baker Mayfield fan.
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  Speaker 4: And uh, but let's say, with some of the other
• 16:35
  Speaker 4: changement issues with Todd Bowles, which we saw back when
• 16:39
  Speaker 4: he was coach of the Jets, I don't I don't
• 16:42
  Speaker 4: understand why all these coaches.
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: Don't know how to manage the clock at the end
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: of a half, at the end of a game. But
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: it's it's not only Todd Bowles who has had many
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: clock management issues, but it's throughout the league. It really is,
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: and I don't understand.
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  Speaker 2: The torture by the Bulls era and I you know
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: here with the Jets, it's a little different though, because
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: it seems to have found a bit of a better place, well.
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: Again division where the division isn't good. He had he
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  Speaker 1: had Brady, I had Brady all those years in the
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  Speaker 1: a f C East. But Washington's gonna be playing at
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: Detroit on Saturday night. I'm gonna be honest with you.
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  Speaker 1: Unless Detroit really has comes into the game unprepared and
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: just starts turning the ball over. I don't see Washington
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: giving Detroit much of a much of a game. By
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: much of a game is I mean not that they're
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: gonna get They're gonna lose thirty five to three or
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: something like that, but it's gonna but Detroit will be
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: in control of the game most of the way. I mean,
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: I would be that would surprise me if Washington, If
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: Washington has a chance to win the game in the
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: last the last five minutes.
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  Speaker 3: Of the game, well, let me let me say this.
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: Uh.
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  Speaker 2: I think dang Dan Campbell and the lines are gonna
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: come in very I like golf against Jane, but I
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: gotta tell you, Jane Daniels, we talk about what the
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: four or five guys that were draft picks that were
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: starting Boyle boy, he has really taken Washington to another.
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  Speaker 3: Level, and I'm happy for him. I'm actually happy that.
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: DC is seeing the success success because it's another franchise team,
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: you know, a legendary franchise, the Washington formerly Redskins. Obviously
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: it's going to sit them back in this and I
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: can't believe it's twenty years since they won a playoff game.
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: And you know what, I'm happy for Mariota too because
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: remember Marcus Mariota, guy who has been bounced around a bit.
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: What a one two combination they have at quarterback now.
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: And quick note on all that three Heisman winners in
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: one game?
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: Low, How cool was that?
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: Alex. Yeah, you're not going to see that very often.
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: But getting back to Daniels, what Daniels has done for
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: the Commander's franchise, and obviously it's they have new ownership
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: with with Harris in there, and Harris owns the New
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: Jersey Devils, he owns the Sixers, he owns Crystal Palace
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: in the English Premier League. The success of the Redskins
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: this year. Of course, Jaden Daniels is a huge part
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: of that is going to help them get that new
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: stadium and inside the city limits, probably on the old
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: RFK Stadium site they want.
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: Would love that and that'd be closer to putting that.
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: You know, the Nationals are around that area a little bit.
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: That'd be nice to have some football back in that
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: area because that's the Riggins area you're talking about.
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: That'sk.
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: But I gotta tell you one of about Jane Daniel stats.
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: I mean, I felt like every game he had more
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: than three touchdowns, there was a four or five touchdown,
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: and I think he had six against the Eagles, and
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: that signature when he had, you know, a week fifteen
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: or sixteen, I mean that performance against the Eagles since
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: some ads not only rookie of the year, but I
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: think the commander said all right, this is our guy
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: after that win, specifically, you know, because they were struggling
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: little bit up until that point.
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: And so they had to get back on track and
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: that win got them there.
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: Alex, he's not only the offensive rookie year. I mean,
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: if he doesn't win, it felt they should be an
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: investigation in the NFL but we talk about how many
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: players are MVP worthy and it's like seven or eight
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: of them, and we never talk about Jayden Daniels, and
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: he's definitely should be in that category.
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: Better than him in the NFC, I gotta ask. I
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: know Golf has been there. I know Darnold was there
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: for the Vikings. I mean, he really stepped up and
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: did something that I didn't think anybody.
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: Expected him to do with the Vikings.
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: But Daniels is in a league of his own when
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: you think about it, and you're right.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: And the thing is, he played fifty six to fifty
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: seven college games. Maybe there's something to be said that
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: when you play a lot of college games with the
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: bow Knicks play sixty one or something like that. And
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: even though Denver was pummeled on Sunday, his first ever
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: of playoff possession takes him right down field and throws
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: a forty three yard touchdown dart to Franklin, his wide
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: receiver teammate at Oregon. So you know, maybe the experience
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: at the college level does help when you get to
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: the NFL. So many of these quarterbacks played twelve thirteen
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: games in the NFL and are thrown right into them right.
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: And by the way, LSU was not a contender last
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: year and anything really, but yet Daniels won the Heisman.
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: And I remember everybody going who who won the Heisman?
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: Remember, Yeah, No, it's true, it is true. And he's
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: a great player. I mean, he's a great rookie, and
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: he's got his head on straight, and he's got control
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: that huddle, and he's incredibly impressive. And the NFC East
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: is going to be tougher in the years ahead, that's
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: for sure.
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: All Right.
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: You talk about clock management, and I have to say
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: about personnel management too.
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: I want to go to the.
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: Uh well, actually the Cotton Bowl, because I don't know
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: if you were as frustrated as I was, but you're
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: at the one yard line and I know you want
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: Quinn Euro's yourers to have his moment because he's been
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: there for so long.
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: But you just put arch Manning.
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: In and run the ball and you have that one
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: yard to go and you don't score against Ohio State.
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: That was one of the most frustrating.
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: Drives of the whole playoffs NFL and NCAA because the
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: Texas Houston, Houston, the Longhorn should have done something.
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: They should have scored there.
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: Alex, you're one thousand percent correct in your analyzation. I
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: don't think they you did it to have viewers get
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: his moment. I just I don't know why star Kane
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: Starkanian didn't put arch Manning in there. I fully expected
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: to see him after he was stopped on the one
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: when they ran up the middle, I said to myself,
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: I hope they do not run wide on his second down. Well,
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: they not only ran wide, they pitched it out. It
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: was a wide pitch and then he had that that
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: eight yard loss and then they weren't able to get
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: in the end zone. Terrible, terrible, terrible, uh play calling
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: when you're less than a yard away? Terrible, Alex, and
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: you're you're so right. Where was arch Manning, who, on
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: fourth and three earlier in a game from just inside
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: to fifty ran for six or seven yards the only
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: the only I believe that was the only play he played.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: So I was looking for arch Manning too. I mean,
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: he's a big, strong kid. Agree with your buddy, I
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: agree with you.
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: And Will Howard. You know he's a guy.
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: I thought he was in the runing for Heisman a lote,
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: but his name seemed to be mentioned a bit in
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: that UH, and Will Howard and Ryan Day who.
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: You know what, I guys give him credit.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: Everybody wanted him fire after the Michigan game, and yet
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: here he is on the national title. You know what,
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: you can explain the fan bases to me, Lou, because
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: even the tumblin UH haters now want him fired after
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: a sistellar year with what he was dealt. Yeah, they
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: want him fired much like they want Ryan Day fired.
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: It's like, can you explain these fan bases to me, Lou?
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: And I know we're like that in New York, so
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: maybe I'm being hypocritical, but can you explain it?
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and we are like that in New York. You're
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: one hundred percent correct, we are. We are like that
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: in New York. I think obviously fans have been passioned
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: for Ohio state UH for for decades. I think obviously
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: that that has risen to a new level with with
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: social media, UH, with all these different podcasts on on
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: YouTube which are readily available with the sports radio stations.
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: And again Ryan Day not you know, Okay, he's had
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: some issues against Michigan, but my god, he's recruited a
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: twenty million dollar roster that's that's playing for the national championship,
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: and they probably have the best roster in the country.
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: They are favored by ten points, nine and a half
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: or ten, depending on who's your favorite betting service. I
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: think Notre Dame has a great shot no matter what.
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: But yes, fans are crazy. I mean, would Jets fans
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: or Giant fans, even though we'll say Jets fans, would
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: they like eighteen winning seasons in a row? Would they
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: like a chance to have a puncher's chance in the
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: playoffs almost every year? I would say I would say yes.
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: And by the way, Tomlin had the toughest of all
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: the coaches.
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: And Tomlin hasn't had eighteen winning seasons in e row.
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: Let me correct that he's been there eighteen years with
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: great success and again, but maybe we might hear in
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: the next couple of days that, just like with Andy
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: Reider was with the Eagles for fourteen years, just like
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: with any coach that's been in a spot for a
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: long time in any sport, it's time they'll leave on
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: their own because their message is no longer being heard.
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: It's just changed for change sake, And it worked out
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: obviously for for Andy Reid. He had success before, you know,
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: before they drafted Patrick Mahomes. But now he's never leaving
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: until Mahomes is retiring, that I can tell you.
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: Is it like the Brady Belichick thing we're gonna we're
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: having going on here with Kansa City.
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: Is that where you're saying loup.
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, But again, the one thing that read that Andy
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: Reid has over Belichick. And I'm not saying that I
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: would pick I would pick uh read over Belichick. He
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: won in Philadelphia, they got to five NFC championship games,
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: they got they got to won Super Bowl and they
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: lost to the Patriots only four to twenty one. But
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: sometimes it's just time. It's just time to move on
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: to your next onto your next job. And maybe that's
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: maybe that's the deal with Tomwin. But I don't think
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: he's getting fired. I think it would be a mutual
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: thing saying, hey, you know what, time for me to
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: find another place to finish my career. I mean, let's
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: face it, Alex. They do not have a great roster.
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: They don't have they don't have a quarterback. Naja Harris
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: is a nice running back. Their wide receivers are okay,
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: George Pickens is a Townen receiver, but he's you know,
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: he's been suspended by the team. Obviously he has uh,
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: he has issues. So I thought he did a great job,
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: but the fact that they were ten and three and
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: ended up losing their last five games, including the playoff game,
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: is the last thing that sticks. And I get it.
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: I understand it.
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, and obviously again though he had a tough
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: it was a lot to deal with for Tomlin. Now
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: do you think it's gonna be a situation where I
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: heard that McCarthy was gonna stay with Dallas now he's gone.
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: Is that what we're gonna be seeing here with Tomlin?
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: Or no?
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: I mean it doesn't tent has two years.
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: Left on his deal. He has two years left on
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: his deal, so they would have to come up to
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: some kind of an agreement agreement, but I just don't think.
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: I don't think he's going to get outright fired. The
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: Skillers have haven't fired a coach since the end of
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: the nineteen eighty excuse me, the nineteen sixty eight season,
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: Alex I was fifteen years old. That's really how long
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: ago that They've only had four general managers during that time.
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: They've had three head coaches since then, so I don't
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: think they're going to outright fire him. I think it
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: just might be. You know what I've done all I
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: could here, mister Rooney, I'm going to either take a
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: year off or I'm going to go apply for one
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: of these jobs. So we'll know in the next couple
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: of days if he's not going to be with the Steelers.
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: Very interesting insight there, Louis will see what happens.
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: By the way, the Rooney family and the Mayor family
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: and the Hunt family are the godfather's families of the
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: whole league, because they were sort of the ones that said,
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: let's start this whole thing up.
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: Am I right?
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: Well, yes, I mean obviously Rooney and marriage did I mean?
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: The Steelers were formed in thirty three, the Giants were
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: formed in nineteen twenty five, and of the Hunts, Lamar
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: Hunt Clark. Hunt's father starred the AFL in nineteen sixty
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: when he wanted an expansion franchise in Dallas, Texas, and
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: he was rebuffed by the NFL. So he got his
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: buddy Bud Adams. Now they're the Tennessee Titans. They were
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: the Houston Oorlers then he started the AFL, and I
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: think that one of the reasons why pro football is
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: so popular today, I think started with the birth of
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: the AFL in nineteen sixty. I think that was that's
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: a that was a major, a major cog in the
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: NFL being what it is today. So maybe one day
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: we'll just talk about the history of the AFL and
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: the NFL in the nineteen sixties when I really think
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: everything turned the corner there.
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: Oh no, we got it, because I thought he was
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: also responsible for the AFC starting.
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: I thought one of those guys.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: Well, well, what happened was the was the AFL started
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: in nineteen sixty and they were bitter rivals for player coaches.
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: It was they called it was the Football War, which
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: in June of nineteen sixty six, his Clark Hunt's father,
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: Lamar Hunt, and Pete Roselle worked out the terms of
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: the merger agreement and then they merged the NFL in
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: the AFL, and in nineteen seventy the NFL teams that
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: we know today the National Conference, the AFL teams for
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: the American Conference. Three teams from the NFL Baltimore, Cleveland,
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: and Pittsburgh moved over to the AFL than AFC, so
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: they would balance thirteen teams in each conference under the
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: big league, the National Football League. But again we can
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: talk about that. It's some fascinating, some fascinating historical stuff
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: leading up to that time and then really after that, Alex,
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: the NFL is what it is today, the giant of giants,
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: an American sport. It's a giant, not about it. It's
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: the NFL is. Their brand is like none other.
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: It's a powerhouse. It really, it really is.
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: And it's funny because it continues to survive no matter
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: how nuts Goodell makes it.
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: You know, I don't know, there's a whole thing about him.
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: I don't think it's trying to ruin the league, but
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: I feel like he's just adding things with that that's
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: not there. But yet the NFL keeps moving on despite
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: all of his efforts to water it down. If I'm
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: if I'm not, if I'm not mistaken, Well.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: The owners love him, Alex because he has put billions
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: of dollars into every one of the every one of
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: the team's pockets. There's not one team in NFL that's
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: going to go out of business.
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: Hey, you know, uh, I don't know we're gonna run
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: to a thing where we might where you know that
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: funnel system and you give it to the low the
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: teams that are struggling every year.
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: I don't know if that's ever gonna happen, like the
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: Jacksonvillees or whatnot.
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: But no NFL team is struggling Aalyts, not even in Jacksonville's.
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: They may be struggling on the field, they're not struggling financially.
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: There's not one NFL team struggling financially.
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: Well, then we have to investigate why these teams are
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: the you know, so lackluss. I mean, I guess they
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: should have fired their GM, but Peterson has had a
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: rough go of it since.
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: The Philadelphia years.
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: I feel like, so anyway, I want to get back
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: on track here with you for a moment because because
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: there's another team that I'm room for all week long.
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: In additional Buffalo, you know, I love. I want New
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: York State to win the Super Bowl and be nice.
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: It'd be nice Bozwa the Irish to win the Natty,
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: the National Championship.
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: I mean, you look at the bounce back from the
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: NIU loss.
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: We've talked about it before to now and it was
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: a consecutive win streak. By the way, they haven't lost
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: one game since that loss to NIU. That's impresident of itself.
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: But we talked about a combination of quarterback coach Freeman
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: working with Riley Leonard is proof in that pudding?
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: Am I right?
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: You know the funny thing Alex about Riley Leonard. I
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: believe I'm ninety nine and nine ten percent sure that
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: when Riley Leonard went into the portal, came down to
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: two quarterbacks for Notre Dame, Riley Leonard and I believe
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: Will Howard, and I'm sure that will be a storyline
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: on Monday Night. I'm almost sure it was between those two.
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: So Will Howard, who was at Kansas State went to
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: a Ohio State because Kyle McCord went to Syracuse and
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: did a great did a great job of Syracuse. So
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: there's a little there's a little rivalry besides the Notre
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: Dame Ohio State rowery. Two of the biggest brands in
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: college football history going against each other. But Riley Leonard
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: and Marcus Freeman, Yes, they have that head coach quarterback
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: chemistry connection. Marcus Freeman has instilled so much confidence that
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: Noden can get this done and be successful. It's really impressive.
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: I think Notre Dame. Obviously, they have a lot of injuries.
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: They are left tackle Anthony Naples is not going to play.
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: They're right, he got hurt in the semifinal game against
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: Penn State. That's huge. Their right guard rock O Spindler
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: is fifty to fifty to start on Monday night. So
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: and I think those are two key injuries. Because for
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: Notre Dame, in my opinion, to have a chance to
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: win the game, I think they have to control the clock.
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: They have to win the time a possession by about
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: eight minutes. I really do minimum of eight minutes. And
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: obviously they need their offensive line to push a very
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: very active, fast athletic Ohio State front because they're gonna
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: need to rush the football. Notre Game's gonna need to
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: rush to rush the football, and they got to win
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: a turnover battle. They do those three things. I mean,
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: I think they got a hell of a shot. I
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: really do. And Notre Dame's down a lot of guys
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: besides the two offensive line when we just talked about,
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: I mean, and they've been out you know, without Ben Morrison.
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: Their great cornerback for you know this for four or
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: five weeks. Now, you know they have a couple of
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: other guys out, so you know, we'll see. I like
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: Notre Dame. I really have a feeling on Monday night
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: if if there's going to be a blowout. Unfortunately, it
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: would happen early. No, they would be turning over the
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: football and before you know what, it's fourteen and nothing
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: or seventeen to nothing, like what what Ohio State did
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: to Oregon in the Rose Bowl. I don't think that's
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: gonna happen, though, and I hope it doesn't happen. Obviously,
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: I think No Dame. I think Not Dame has a
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: great shot, I really do. I also believe they have
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: a little they have a little of that sports magic,
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: that little that calmer, and I hope, I hope I'm right.
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: So we'll see.
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: Well, there are two phrases.
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: The bigger one for me is win one for the
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: Giff and play like a champion. But I gotta go
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: back to the play against Penn State when Riley found
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: the open receiver.
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: That pretty much since the game.
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  Speaker 2: He's got to do more of that, and I think
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  Speaker 2: he will against Ohio State.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely, and I got a good feeling. I got a
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: good feel. I got a good feeling on Notre Dame
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: on Monday night. I would like to I really would
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: like to see that, to see them when they have
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: it one since nineteen eighty eight, which seems sacrilegious. And
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: I got a good feeling. I just again, if I
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: really think time of possession, rushing the football, time possession,
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: you gotta win it by eight minutes. You got to
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: win a turnover battle. And the other thing is you
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: got to get off to a good start. It can't
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: be Oregon and Ohio State because if it is, people
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: would be turning that TV sets off.
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: And by the way, let's not forget throw Steve Angeli
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: in there and we're all good.
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: That's all A good a very good point. Steve Angelly.
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: When Ohio State was dominating that first half and no
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: didn't hand scored and Riley Leonard had a possible concussion
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: and Steve Angelly came in and by the way, he's
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: a better passer. He was a better passer than Riley
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: Leonard or Drew Aller, who did not have a good
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: game for pending.
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: Those who don't know, uh, those who don't know Steve Angel,
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: you weren't listening to Lou and I.
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: Watch his performance in the Sun Bowl and just awe
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: in amazement.
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: I'm here in studio on the phone with Lou the
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: whole game, remember that I do.
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: And he was impressed with that game. I'm surprised he
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: didn't go into the portal, but he threw darts in
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: that two minute offense and he got the midfield goal,
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: which getting those three points at the end of the
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: half changes your mindset mentally the team. And then then
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: you saw what happened in the second half. But an
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: unsung hero of the semifinal win, Steve ANGELI no doubt
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: about it. I'm glad you brought him up. You brought
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: him up, Alex.
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: All right, we talk about lineage and I just want
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: to throw out the stat that I said last.
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: Year on this very day when the Lions won.
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: See thank God for fake With Facebook memories, I can
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: pull it up like yesterday. I said last year on
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: this day to the fans crying in the sands about
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: the Lions advancing, and let it out. The nineteen ninety
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: one Lions won their last playoff game in January nineteen
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: ninety two.
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: Last year was the.
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: Second time in sixty five years, Lou that the Lions
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: have won a playoff game, which means this year will
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: be third time in sixty six. So I'd expect more
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: tiers in the sands that they do go on and win.
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: I mean, last year's team was fun, but this one
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: went the bye week, and I keep telling you the
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: staple for them, the signature game for the Commanders was
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: obviously the Eagle Game in Maryland, in andover Maryland. But
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: for the Lions, after a couple of weeks have beaten,
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: beaten up to come back against the Niners. The way
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: they did that was their staple game, and they went
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: from there and really sewed up the division and the
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: conference off that win. They had the momentum the whole
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: way through after that.
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah. No, And obviously I wonder how many of their
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: injured defensive players they're going to get back, if any,
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: this week. I mean, I think going to be a
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: dominant force on Saturday Night. I really do so, So
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: we'll see. And I just hope Dan Campbell, another coach
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: who's done a grand fantastic job, just don't go for
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: it on every on every fourth and one got play
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: that you gotta play the game a little bit the
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: way it used to be played.
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: No, he's very ambitious and then and I think that's
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: why he's gotten this team to where they are at.
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: The no question, you're you're right, Alex.
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Lou, I mean we we had a great session today.
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: And this is why I keep you, This is why
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: I have young because you give us that historical perspective
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: on almost anything. And in the next couple of weeks
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: I got to see him, mister h if. We gotta
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: arrange that David Wright on the show previewing his retirement
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: this this summer.
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: Now, that's a bit of a history right there for
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: the Mets. So that'll be fun to cover.
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: As David right, one of my favorites.
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: Oh, he's class act through and through. But we'll get
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: to that at spring training, which is just almost a
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: month away.
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's unbelievable.
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: We're going through times flying. I'm not using Omni cards,
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: not Metro cards. Where's time going. Everything's moving on. So
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: we'll talk to you soon, Lely.
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: Thank you, La, I appreciate it.
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: Before I end today's show, me and Lou Turminola will
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: take a moment to remember Bob Ucker but a couple
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: of stories. He did sign my book of Wit, which
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: had a lot of baseball legends, and it quoted he
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: signed that book of Wit. And also and also my
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: story with Bob Yuker is that when I was about
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: five or six years old, in my long hair era,
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: the Dynamit's dash was over and mister Yucker and my
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: dad and I we all ran into each other in
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: the parking lot and Bob Ucker goes, hey, young fella,
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: I saw you run the bases. And I said to him, well,
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: I'm actually a boy, because I thought I was calling
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: me a girl. So I guess you could say at
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: age five, I was still matching the energy of Bob
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: Yucker's humor, and I didn't even know it till now.
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: And also one more thing, while he always said joshe
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: his delivery on those lines in Major League were right
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: down the middle. He had one leg up on the
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: art of broadcasting and baseball.
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: We'll miss you, Bob,